The Football Cliches Quiz XX: The View From The Lane
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hello everyone and welcome to football clichés I'm Adam Hurry and this is the 20th edition of the clichés quiz joining me on team clichés he's got split loyalties it's charlie eccleshair are you pumped for this one very much so win-win in many ways i i contemplated maybe getting you to do a sort of a half each for the teams like Pele did for the Cosmos and Santos in 1977.
That would have been fun.
That really would have made it win-win.
You would have gone home happy, as hard as that is to achieve for you sometimes in the quiz.
Alongside you is David Walker.
Dave, we are 1-4 lost five in the Pod VPod era.
This could be the time we bring it level.
Yeah, big game.
And
I think it's going to be tough for us, though.
We've got three serious football brains, I think, in front of us today.
Yeah, and cliché savvy as well, which is even more scary.
Yes, our quiz guests today are the first club-specific opponents, the Athletics Tottenham podcast, possibly even the world's number one Spurs podcast, The View from the Lane.
The nominal captain for this is James Moore.
How are you doing, James?
Yeah, I'm very well, thanks, Adam.
You've got a colourful history on the clichés quiz.
Let's go back to cliché's quiz five as you were trying trying to guess Ian Dowie's cameo video.
It sounded like there was a sort of West Midlands twang, but at the end I was also kind of swaying towards Ian Dowie.
He feels very much at the kind of apex of this kind of activity.
I just can't think who, I can't think, it's not, it's not like Lee Hendry.
Who else is from the West Midlands?
St.
Gollymore, it's not him.
Come on.
Oh my lord.
Who played for Villa?
Who's from Ian Taylor?
Ian Taylor.
Is it Ian Taylor?
It's Ian Dowie.
Oh, no!
Have you not got any audio of the one where I battered Charlie?
No, sadly not.
Not as fun.
Battered?
Not sure about that.
Edged.
Coxie's weedy, mischievous little laugh.
It's so funny.
Alongside you on Team View from the Lane, Jack Pitt Brook.
Jack, this is your third attempt at the cliches quiz.
You've won one.
You've lost one.
Something you've got to give?
Yeah, i i think when i when i lost to charlie which was
four years ago maybe that's genuinely one of the most rattled i've ever been in my entire life
i still think about it all the time uh so hopefully this this won't haunt me quite as much was that the eunus cabal qpr situation to be honest i think i i think i was stitched up in that one i can't remember how it was was it to do with like charlie adam playing for someone but i know i know that i definitely got the rubber the green when i beat ollie cab before then so i i guess I kind of think you've got to accept the ups and downs of it, basically.
Well, pleased to have you back.
Completing your trio, new signing, instant impact.
It's Dan Kilpatrick.
Welcome to the Cliches Quiz.
Thanks very much.
How many view-from-the-lane appearances have you made?
Because I want to avoid a kind of Clapham Chiefs-esque eligibility scandal here.
We could be on dangerous ground then.
I think this is my fourth.
Right.
I mean, this isn't technically even the lane.
No, it doesn't.
I've done three previously.
Three's fine.
Three's the three.
Three is a number.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is
No one's on our case.
Right, a reminder for everyone of the format.
Each team are going to pose three rounds of five questions to the other team.
A total of 25 points will be on offer.
For those concerned that this is going to be a Tottenham Hotspur-themed quiz, it is not.
There will be an incidental sprinkling of Spurs here and there, but this is a cliché's quiz, as you know and love it.
Let's get into it.
It's round one.
It's trivia round.
Here we go.
View from the lane.
Your first question.
Playing their football, just a 90-minute ferry ride from the birthplace of a Spurs legend loved for a goal he scored for somebody else, FC Hound Dogs are a new addition to the top flight of the domestic league of which nation.
So it's got to be Naeem, right?
Yeah.
Loved for a goal scored for somebody else.
So it's got to be Naeem from the halfway line.
Where's my favorite?
And he's from, isn't he from that
African bit of Spain?
That kind of...
Is that an exclave?
I think that's right.
Great use of exclave, by the way.
I mean, Moroccan was the first thing that came to my head.
That feels right.
My guess was that he would be from like contiguous Spain.
So...
Another great word.
Fucking hell.
90-minute ferry from there.
I mean, it could be...
I mean, is Gibraltar a 90-minute ferry from Spain?
Or would it be Morocco?
Well, I like that.
I like that.
Can we have the question again, Adam?
Playing their football just a 90-minute ferry ride from the birthplace of a Spurs legend loved for a goal he scored for somebody else, FC Hound Dogs are a new addition to the top flight of the domestic league of Witch Nation.
I mean, when you think about it, that sounds like it's Gibraltar, isn't it?
All the teams in the Gibraltar league sound like they're named after Pubs, so that feels more Gibraltar.
Yeah, my instinct would be Gibraltar over Morocco.
Yeah, I'm happy with that.
Correct.
Great start.
Sorry, I'm applauding.
That was fantastic logic and teamwork.
Well done.
I think that should be the paradigm for all future deliberations on the cliches.
It was clean, crisp, great, everything took it forward.
Everybody played their part.
No wastage.
That was like a team goal.
Yeah.
Should never win goal of the season, but still loved.
Yes, absolutely.
Right.
Question two, please, Dave.
Question two.
Name the three players to have played for Tottenham Hotspur and LA Galaxy.
Robbie Keene.
Yes, the easy one.
Is it the easy one?
I think they're all quite easy, aren't they?
Come on then, James.
Oh, God, no.
Oh, God.
What I mean to say.
And then go to the bottom.
That's suddenly the image of Michael Confesses flatting before before my eyes.
And this isn't winter.
This is part of a deliberation.
Isn't it not Bale and Loris?
Luis is LAFC.
Okay, see, there is.
Sorry, did Bale and Loris both played?
Did they play for LAFC as well?
No, I don't think so.
They're not a new company.
So Luris is definitely at LAFC.
He's not a Galaxy.
Yeah, so it's definitely not Loris.
But Bale played for Galaxy, right?
Surely.
I'm drawing a blank on that.
I don't think he did.
He only did a few months there, and it was relatively recently.
Did he?
I can't even remember.
I've drawn a big blank on which LA team Bale played for.
I'm really 50-50 on Bale.
I'm sure.
We need all three for the point.
You need all three for the point.
I've got one.
I've got one.
I've got one.
I've got one.
Giovanni Dos Santos, I think, played for LA Galaxy.
Yes, I like it.
I thought he played for LAFC, or am I confusing with Valera?
No, Valer played for LAFC, and I think Dosantos played for Galaxy.
So I think that's right.
Yeah.
So I think we've got two, right?
Keenan Dosantos.
Have Spurs had any Americans apart from Carter Vickers?
Yeah well they had Dempsey.
They had Friedel.
Dempsey.
Friedel definitely's played in MLS.
Dempsey was he not like Seattle Sanders or something?
I'm pretty sure he didn't play for LA Galaxy.
I think so.
LA Galaxy are quite a celebrity kind of US club aren't they?
I feel like they like a name.
It's not going to be Timu Taino.
Imagine if it was Timu Taino.
I fear for you guys here, I have to say.
I'm just trying to think of other Spurs players who went to to MLS.
So Defoe was Toronto, wasn't he?
It couldn't be.
One more, and you've got an athletic listicle.
Keep going.
It can't be.
It's not Woodgate, is it?
I'm in pain.
I'm interested in where you've got Woodgate from there.
You're just sort of naming Spurs players from around 2008.
Yeah, I am.
Going to have to politely push you on this.
I'm drawing a blank.
I'm pretty certain about Bale.
Are you sure it definitely wasn't Bale?
Fuck it.
Let's just go for Bale.
If you don't know of anyone else, we should go for probably Go for Fried.
What are your three names?
I think it's got to be Bale or or friedel personally i think bale played for fc but i'm prepared to go with x james uh no let's go with let's go with fried all right friedel dos santos and robbie keen so your final answer is robbie keen giovanni dos santos and brad fridel you have got
two of the three correct robbie keen of course played for la galaxy so did giovanni dos santos
the third correct answer was also a goalkeeper uh
No.
Gareth Bale played for LA FC, did not play for LA Galaxy, but the third correct answer that would have got you the points is Carlo Cudicini.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
21 MLS appearances in 2013 for the former Chelsea, Milan, and Castel DiSangro goalkeeper.
Interesting.
Right.
So you remain on a single point.
Charlie, question three for them, please.
Okay, so this is a question I nodded to.
a week ago uh came from josh robinson of the wall street journal this is a version of it.
It's a great question.
Name the five ex-Spurs players to have scored for six different Premier League clubs.
I feel like our friend Robbie Keene may be making another appearance here.
I think that's a good shout.
Dafoe.
I mean Les Ferdinand is always in these questions as well, right?
I'm pretty sure Les Ferdinand is one.
So right,
Dafoe, I mean maybe.
What?
So Spurs, West Ham, Portsmouth, Sunderland.
Is that it?
You need six clubs.
Did he play for QPR, Jack?
Do you know?
Bournemouth, but I think that was in the championship.
Alongside Eunice Cabool, I believe.
No, I think there must must have been the Premier League, surely.
I know he did.
He went back to Bournemouth, didn't he?
At the end.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
So Les Ferdinand, QPR, Newcastle, Spurs, Leicester, West Ham, maybe some other.
So definitely Les Ferdinand.
Robbie Keane, probably not Wolves, but Leeds, Spurs,
Little Lone at West Ham.
Liverpool.
Liverpool.
Coventry.
But would Les have definitely played all of that in the Premier League era?
Yeah, definitely.
He definitely played for QPR and then everything after that, definitely.
Crouch.
Liverpool, Tottenham, Pompey, Stoke.
Southampton.
Yeah, one more.
Hang on, so are we saying Dafoe?
We didn't really ever kind of commit to it.
It's on the short list.
I'm not sold on.
We're looking for five, is that right?
Five.
Correct, yeah.
Your questions are a lot more involved than ours.
The five ex-Tottenham players to have scored for six different Premier League clubs.
I mean, we're thinking about, we're thinking about forwards here, but
are there players in other positions that have just played for a shed load of clubs and would have chipped in with a goal for all of them?
Charlie Elshed did get this question right whilst he was on centre court at Wimberland.
What about like Genus, Jermaine Genus?
How many?
I think Genus played for six Premier League clubs.
It's five, isn't it?
Five clubs.
Is it five clubs or six clubs?
Six clubs.
Six clubs.
I'll take a look.
I'm miscounting for all of these.
Have we got any?
Possibly not.
There are quite a lot of five men in the Premier League as you go through this question.
It's quite annoying.
How many would Teddy Sherringham be?
Forest, Spurs, Man United, West Ham, West Ham,
Pompey.
So that's five as well.
So have you locked down anyone yet?
If we're looking at six.
Should we just go for Keen Dafoe, Sheringham, Crouch, Ferdinand?
Or should we sub out Sheringham for someone like a genus
or a...
Can't be...
It's not going to be...
It's not going to be Bentley, is it?
Or...
It's not going to be David Howells.
It's not going to be Steve Sedgley.
Pompey isn't Kursley?
I'm going to.
Can we just do this entirely instinctively?
Because if it's anyone, Les Ferdinand must be one of them.
So let's say Les Ferdinand, Robbie Keene, Dermaine Dafoe, Tony Sheringham,
and Peter Crouch.
There you go.
Okay, Les Ferdinand is one of them.
Peter Crouch is one of them.
Robbie Keene is one of them.
But Dafoe and Sherringham are not.
The other two, one of them is very gettable.
One is hard.
One is Darren Bent.
The other is is Nikki Barnby.
Six clubs.
Yeah, Hull.
He scored once for Hull, which is the kind of rogue one.
The others are sort of gettable for him.
I'd love you to assume that Hull was the one I wasn't going to get.
Disappointed in your efforts there.
You remain on one point.
The other four players in Premier League history to have done this, by the way, Andy Cole, Marcus Bent, Craig Bellamy, and Nicholas Anelka.
This is right at the core of...
modern-day football trivia.
Who did this for six different Premier League clubs?
We should all have this tattooed on our bodies as far as I'm concerned.
But you remain on a single point as we go into question four.
To corrupt a very simple idea from Joel Golby this week called name a 28-year-old footballer, I want you to name any 32-year-old footballer and I'm going to give you 30 seconds starting
now.
Who are we talking about?
We literally said on the phone someone's 32.
Who is that?
Son is 32.
Son is Berohino.
Oh, there you go.
So
Son Hyung Min.
You're going for Son Hyung Min.
Yeah.
Can we get a bonus point for Saido Berrahino?
Are we giving giving away future athletic long reads here, by the way?
Son Hyung Min celebrated his 33rd birthday on the 8th of July.
No!
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Fingers on the pulse there, are we, Spursman?
How old is Saito Berrahino?
If Saido Berohino's 32, I will fucking kill you.
He feels 32, doesn't he?
Let's have a look.
Saido Berrahino.
31.
He's 32 in August.
Split the difference.
You'd have emotionally finished them
31, 32, 32, 33.
Sony is closer to 32 than no, no, it doesn't work.
They're basically equidistant, those two.
They're both very close to being 32.
Fucking hell.
You only use 10 of your 30 seconds there.
A lesson.
All right, question five for them, please, Dave.
Question five: Of the 211 FIFA nations, only one is currently coached by a former Tottenham player.
Which nation and who?
I've got no idea.
Is Royal Fox?
I think it might be Royal Fox.
I can't remember which
like a smaller Caribbean team like Montserrat.
No, Lee Boya's Montserrat manager.
Who is?
Lee Boya is one Montserrat manager.
That's annoying because I really want you to guess that so I could reveal that.
So I'm all right with it.
I'm glad we've got it out there one way or the other.
Lee Boya's the Montserrat manager.
Why?
Explosive volcanic character.
Anyway, carry on.
You've ruled out Montserrat.
That's good.
You're working your way up the rankings.
Who is Sabmarino manager, by the way?
Timu Tainio.
Don't hate it.
I've got nothing.
I've got nothing at all.
Yeah, to give you a clue,
you can go much higher up the rankings than Montserrat.
That's it.
Don't tell him anything else.
Of the 211 FIFA nations, only one is currently coached by a former Tottenham player.
Which nation and who?
Song Hyu-Min was a great moment.
I really have to know that.
I've got nothing, lads.
I've got nothing at all.
Yeah,
my thinking was it was going to be some like mid-90s guy managing out managing out in Asia somewhere.
But from Dave's clue, I'm guessing that isn't the case.
Imagine if we've recorded this on Song Humin's birthday.
We then would have had to go find out when in the day he was born.
Surely in his long read somewhere.
I can speak to his dad again.
Check that out.
I'm not sure he can.
Yeah, probably shouldn't.
You're going to pass?
You're going to have a glass of stab in the dark.
Yeah, let's just say someone's stupid.
Noradine Nabet.
Yeah.
Oh, that's quite good.
I quite like that.
If that's right.
They're going for Noura Din Nabet of Morocco, Dave.
The answer, I'm afraid, is not Noradine Nabet of Morocco.
It is somebody who's managing their own country.
So it's not like a Lebo, you're a Montserrat situation.
The answer is
Sergei Rebrov, who is the coach of Ukraine.
That's honestly one good point.
That was view from the lane from round one.
That's our benchmark team clichés.
View from the lane.
Let's have your first round, please.
Gone for a very simple format.
It is international tournament finals.
Name the missing player.
Our rationale is that, and to quote Jack Pitbrook, Charlie doesn't know anything about international football.
Look at his.
I thought the Malon Dora answered, didn't I?
I like the logic.
I wasn't involved, but I like the logic.
I wouldn't say that's true.
I know nothing about championship and that shit, but points the bear,
no, we've got him on the ropes.
This is good.
Here we go.
James, why did you say that?
Gamesmanship.
It worked really well for me last time.
Right.
Edon, Latz, Bernard Diamed, okay?
Okay.
So the first one is the Argentina team from the 2022 World Cup final against France in Qatar.
I'm going to read out 10 players with a blank in formation, and you have to tell me the blank.
So, Emiliano Martinez, Blank, Cristian Romero, Nicolas Ottomeni, Nicolas Taliafico, Alexis McAllister, Enzo Fernandez, Rodrigo DePaul, Leonel Messi, Julian Alvarez, and Hel de Maria.
Is that Montiel?
Was he the right man?
Was he the one that scored the penalty?
Yeah, I think so.
Did he come on as a sub, though, to take the penalty?
I've got a sneaky suggestion he did.
If it's not Montiel, who was that really stocky guy
who also was knocking about it?
I wasn't sure.
Macuel Molina.
Yeah, maybe.
A bit of pressure pressure on Charlie here, actually, after that.
I like Molia.
I like the guess.
Go for it.
Yeah, it's just a picture of the score.
I haven't got anything else.
He scored the winning penalty, right?
And I don't think he started, but I'd have a better option.
But he's a fullback.
Was there an Acuna who knocked her out?
Is that the stocky guy I'm thinking of?
You're thinking of Clarence Acuna.
Yeah, no, not Clarence Acuna.
Okay, I don't think they had an Acuna.
Well, maybe go Montiel.
But yeah, I can't guarantee he started.
Go for it.
No pressure on us, lads.
We've only got a point to beat.
All right, let's go with Montiel.
Montiel did score the winning penalty, but as Adam said, he came on as a substitute for
Nahuel Molina.
Oh, no!
We've been Ian Dowyd.
I can't believe it.
And is Molina the stocky guy I'm imagining?
Bet.
Athletic.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Disappointing.
Actually, no, he doesn't look that stocky on his wiki photo.
He looks quite skinny.
Right.
Second question: Is the final of the Women's Euros 2022, England versus Germany, played at Wembley.
I'm going to read out the England team with one blank.
Mary Erps, Lucy Bronze,
Millie Bright,
Leah Williamson,
Rachel Daly,
Georgia Stanway,
Kira Walsh,
Beth Mead,
Fran Kirby,
Lauren Hemp,
Blank.
Wow, we can do this.
Yeah, it's
Russo was a super sub-bat.
I've completely forgotten her name, but it's the striker who's doing the punchery for the BBC.
Oh, um, uh, yeah, Ellen White.
Yeah, Ellen White was sort of kept faith with, even though she didn't score.
Russo was the Russo was the Azure man of 2022, right?
Super sub, yeah.
It all fits together.
I'm pretty sure it's Ellen White.
She's definitely hit.
Unless she missed it through suspension or injury, which I don't think she did.
Ellen White.
Ellen White is correct.
Yes.
1-1.
Russo and Chloe Kelly were indeed super subs.
Love that.
We're going to go eight years back in time to the final of the 2014 World Cup.
Germany's team, which of course beat eight years back, what did I say?
Eight years back from 2022.
Yeah, yeah.
Germany team, which beat Argentina starting 11 in the Marikina.
Here we go.
Manuel Neuer, Philip Lahm, Jerome Boatang, Matt Hummels, Benedict Huvades, Blank, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Tony Kross, Thomas Muller, Miroslav Klose, Mezet Erzil.
It's Kadira, isn't it?
Kadira.
Oh, okay, because in my head it was the guy who got knocked out and couldn't remember the rest of the game.
Kramer.
That was Hoverdays.
No, Kramer.
Kramer.
Kramer was the guy who got knocked out, actually.
Don't you remember?
So it was a huge story.
He couldn't remember the rest of the game.
But I can't think what other game that could have been.
So it must have been 2014.
Yeah, so where was Kadira?
Was he suspended or something?
Maybe.
So there's no Kadira there?
No.
Did he come on?
It was a huge story.
Christoph Kramer got knocked out, got taken off.
But did he come on as a sub and do it?
But that didn't happen, did it?
But then did he start the World Cup final?
Kadira must have been suspended, but then the semi-final wasn't fraught with danger.
I think he was a surprise inclusion for some reason.
He got Kramer.
There's no other game that this happened, right?
Because that was in the first half, wasn't it, that he went off?
Yeah, yeah.
Should we go for Christoph Kramer?
Yeah.
That's our.
Christoph Kramer is correct.
Good one.
He did get started on concussed footballers, lads.
He did get subbed off after.
I was reading on this Wikipedia.
It's really bleak.
I was reading on his Wikipedia page.
Like, he got concussed.
He came back on.
And then he said to the ref, is this the final?
And then the ref had to go to Schweinsteiger and say, have a word.
Yeah, and off he went.
So, yeah, Kramer is correct.
So, you guys are ahead already.
Kadira injured his calf in the warm-up.
Anyway.
Right, we're going to go back to the final of the 2010 World Cup.
This is the Dutch team that lost to Spain at Soccer City.
Martin Stekelenberg, Gregory van der Wiel, John Heitinger, Blank, Giovanni van Bronkhorst, Mark van Bommel, Nigel de Jong, Arion Robbin, Wesley Schneider, Dirk Kout, Robin Van Percy.
Centre-back then.
Centre-back.
With Johnny Heitinger.
I was going to say, Heitinger seems to me to be the more passive of a centre-back partnership to me.
Was it big Ron Vla?
Oh, I like it.
I do like Ron Vla.
Who were the sort of dominant Dutch centre-backs of that time?
Stan would have gone by then, wouldn't he?
Yes.
And we were pre-Van Dijk, obviously.
Yeah.
And Deborah was gone.
Vla ticks the boxes for being the big lump alongside Heidelberg.
Yeah, just who were some of those other sort of bits like Baumer?
He was kind of knocking around then, wasn't he?
But he wouldn't have been.
He wouldn't have started centre-back.
Vla was definitely in that.
Was Van Bommel said, sorry, in the.
Yeah, he was starting.
Yeah, he played midfield.
Wasn't he feeling it might be in 2014?
That's too late for Vla, right?
Yeah, Vla was...
Hoffland's gone by then?
Hoffland.
Yeah, I think he was out of the picture by then.
He burned brightly.
I quite like Vla.
I like Vla for this.
I'm alright if we get it wrong, because we've guessed a great name.
Also, crucially, Ron Vla feels like a sort of name that Jack Pittbrook would be slightly preoccupied by.
Ron Vlar.
A legend, no.
When did he go to Villa?
Soon after.
He got moved on the back of the tournament, didn't he?
Didn't he?
Possibly.
I like that.
Sounds about right.
Let's go, Ron Vlar.
I'm going to go for Ron Vlar, Jack.
Great logic, but no, the correct answer is Euris Matison.
Fair play.
If I'd been guessing, if I'd been on your side of this, I would have guessed Vla totally.
Matyson, yeah.
A forgettable player,
yeah, very forgettable.
Wow.
Never had a shit spell in England, I think, is why.
Yeah.
Right.
Question five, going back 10 years to the final of Euro 2000.
This is the France team that played Italy in the final in Rotterdam.
Fabian Bartez, Lilian Taram, Marcel Dessaille, Lauren Blanc, Vicente Lizarazu, Patrick Vieira, Didier Deschamp, Yuri Djokaev, Zinedine Zidane, Thierry Henri, Blank.
Well, Pires came on, didn't he?
I'm pretty sure he's who set.
Yeah, because he sets up Trezegay's goal, but I think he came on.
I'm not sure he started that game.
Will Tord.
Will Tord?
Will Tord scored the equalizer.
And then
they couldn't put him and Trezegay on, would they?
And there was an Elka knocking around that.
I think it's Philtor.
I don't want to complicate matters, but I did make a Bernard Diamed quip about 10 minutes ago.
It's not Bernard Diamed, is it?
He wasn't still there by the Euros, I don't think.
So he was in the World Cup 98 squad, but not 2000.
Yeah, okay.
Not 2000.
He couldn't have have started that game.
I think either Pirs or Wiltord...
Did Pirus start?
Right in the middle of the day.
They both is Charlie.
Yeah, they both moved to Arsenal that summer.
In a roundabout way, kind of proving their theory correct, because this is Charlie's photographic Arsenal memory failing when it gets to the international level.
Arsenal?
What?
Which of them would have started?
But that would be a good idea.
Wiltord's so super subby, though, isn't it?
Yeah, I think Wiltord would have been.
We're looking for somebody who's been played up front here, aren't we?
Just based on the readout of the formation.
So I think they played a sort of front three.
Just read out the attackers, the midfield and attack again, Jack.
So after the back five, it's Patrick Vieira, Didier Deschamp, Yuri Yokaev, Zilandine Zidane Thierry Henri, blank.
Anelka started earlier in the tournament, but then he sort of got phased out a little bit.
I'm just thinking, unless they did something clever.
And they had so many good attackers then.
Was Perez a surprise starter?
Like, it would have been a surprise i think it's vilta he scored we know that we know he scored so let's go with that yeah i'm i guess i'm more inclined towards that two substitute scoring and are we saying and trezor gay we're saying definitely came on as well because he scored he scored the winner i like him as well possible he started no i like him as a sub as well
go on charlie it's your call no uh yeah it is it is no i'm taking it away from charlie he's real taught he's too he's too he's he's too worried about getting it wrong just go for i think it was no i think peres oh no
It's over to you.
Adam.
It's your choice.
I always back Charlie in these situations, and I know what's going to happen.
Don't you always?
Yeah.
It's Robert Perez.
Never wanted us to be wrong so much.
It's Robert Perez.
I'm going to assume that's the final answer.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's not Robert Perez.
Fuck.
It's not Sylvan Wilton.
It's not Nicholas Anelka.
Dabatrezagay.
It's not Dabitzagay.
It is Christophe Dugary.
Oh my god that's insane that makes that sound that's great though that's a relief egg on all of our faces though dugary started that game yeah that was so god they had options then fucking hell are you doing your pundit voice there i'm not sure um anyway at the end of that round it's cliches two view from the lane one an attritional affair great questions well done to everyone right this episode is brought to you in association with nord vpn for those who don't know vpn sends a virtual private network it secures your connection protecting your personal information and online activity, especially on public Wi-Fi.
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Welcome back to the Clichés Quiz 20, a tense battle already.
Cliches lead View from the Lane two points to one as we head into the second round, which is the audio round.
View from the lane, here are your five audio questions, starting with this:
who is this dubbed into Portuguese?
Ma, yo, I simply embroido cuando mi aposente y avión ditado quio simple lenbrava como jogado yo fuchebo.
Desho Fuchibal, anti kio fuchebao chi dish.
U fuci bal, uz disho.
Carraga.
Yeah.
It's about
when he was talking about Casemiro and he said something like,
something like, you need to leave football before football leaves you.
Yes, love it.
I'm very confident that's Jamie Carragher.
Happy with that?
Yeah.
Let's find out.
But I always remember something when I retired myself.
And there was a saying I always remember as a footballer.
Leave the football before the football leaves you.
The football's left them.
He's really convincing Portuguese guy, isn't he, Jamie Carragher?
It really works.
The scales twang really came through as well, which helped.
Lovely stuff.
Right, you've pulled it back to to 2-2 already.
Question two in the audio round: Who is Richard Keys talking about here?
But no better way to finish than in the company of the man who's now shaping football.
Can I say, would he be called the grandfather of football, maybe?
I would like to think the father of football.
The father of football.
Yes, I don't think we've quite reached that senior stage, but I am very, very happy to say that our guest for this this last programme is Wenger.
So I think Venger is so, to me, feels so obvious that I almost wonder if it's a bluff.
Because Venger is shaping football.
Wenger could be described as the father or grandfather of football.
Obviously, Venger's no stranger to a BM Sports studio.
Then we shouldn't overthink it, I think.
Danger of overthinking it, if he's the obvious answer.
My one thought was whether it was someone of kind of Keys' generation, and that was why he said father, not grandfather.
But I think you're I think you're right Jack it probably is Venger I can't think I'm trying to think of a if that's if it is a bluff who who might an alternative answer be you're saying Peter Reid is not shaping football
who is who is who is a manager who they would be mates with who in any way could be said to be shaping football
I can't I just can't think of one it's got to be yeah let's go with Venger I think that is my first thought you're going for Arsen Wenger let's find out but I am very, very happy to say that our guest for this last programme is Arsen Wenger.
Yes.
Hello, lads.
Dancer Professor calling us simpletons in the process, which is nice.
But you lead 3-2 as we go into question 3.
Well done.
Who is this dubbed into French?
Le map in the Kipe despair, Queer le Journey for Barcelona, Nippo L'Oreal Madrid.
Jevienne de la Faire, oh, sasque pleasant.
It's a supertack that I pinched like a dialonso, and gang le ballon, que sequin pas avexa, s pose diriang,
jeune dir
je des alegui, je pins que les spag dou achanger, c'est mous in ce moment, sava.
Bien, merci demond.
Who is that dubbed into French?
Is it just one?
Is that just one voice?
Because it sounds like a conversation between two people.
Oh, I know what it is.
I know what it is.
Is it the 2010?
Are those Vervasales in the background?
I was going to make a joke about them being
transposed with like French instruments, but I couldn't really work out what the French instrument should be for the joke.
But are they Vervasales in the background?
Is it the 2010 world cup
who was that he's clearly i mean you're right you can hear the vivazelas and he's clearly
he's talking about like jabbilonzo and a tackle and like did a tackle win the ball so it's clearly
the quote is
i believe it's mark lawrenson being explained who had won man of the match in a game and it was voted for by people online and i think laureau calls them nerds so it's mark lawrenson and the bbc commentator whose name i now can't remember right which bbc commentator is it what is in who would have commentated the 2010 final for the.
I don't know whether it's a final.
No, because I think he's talking about
Spain and he's talking about Alonso and a tackle that won the ball.
So could he not have been talking about Nigel De Young?
He's talking about de Young, yeah.
I think he's talking about Nigel de Young.
Don't need to get what he's talking about, you just need the people.
Who's the BBC commentator?
Would Lauren not have been in the studio then, or would he have been on Co-Comms?
I think he was on Cocoms with
who would have done it?
Would it have been Guy Mowbray?
2010, could it it have been Mottie?
When did he die?
After 2010.
Always a good starting point, I think.
He worked backwards from that.
He's older than 32, we know that much.
Yeah, I reckon Laura and Mottie or Laura and A and Other.
We can't have A and Other.
You've got to have a name.
It's not Mottie.
Maybe it is Mowbray.
I think you can almost hear it.
I have a feeling it's another BBC commentator whose name I can't remember.
Come on.
And Adam, you're already telling me all the commentators listen to this, so you're probably listening.
I'm not that good on commentators.
You guys will have to guess.
This really is Charlie's wheelhouse.
Yeah, go on, James.
Yeah, come on, Charlie.
Who is it?
I did get this when
Adam Tessa was yesterday.
Who
wants to clarify?
Is it Brotherton?
Is he the other BBC commentator or is he Sky?
Brotherton's a bit niche.
My vote would be Mottie.
I think he was the big cheese for me.
We need an answer for that.
From that era, wasn't he?
You'd be able to tell it was Motty.
I would go against Mottie.
I would go for Laurel and maybe Mowbray.
Yeah,
I'd be inclined with that.
Yeah, let's go with that.
Is he joking?
It's a great tackle this by.
I think it's Shabby Alonso.
He wins the ball.
What's wrong with that?
Supposed to say nothing.
I am saying nothing.
I'm sorry, guys.
I think Spain needs to change.
It's powder puff at the moment.
You're right.
Fine.
Thanks for asking.
Yes, that is Guy Mowbray and Mark Lawrenson in the 2010 World Cup having what was perceived as an ongoing tiff on air.
You didn't get the subject matter right, but that doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
You lead 4-2 as we go into question 4 of the audio round.
You're three for three already.
Question four.
Who is Richard Keyes talking about here?
Well, he's probably worth, in an open marketplace, he's probably worth 100 and what, 20?
No.
He's worth more than Harvey Keen.
He's 21, 22, 21.
Well, he might be Andy, but so was Jaden Sanko, and he's done nothing.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's just a different candidate.
I still think there's a...
It's not a gamble.
No, no.
But I think we're into the unknown here.
I don't think he has yet proven that he is the real deal.
I just think that he has got some work to do.
He has.
And that the jury is having a conversation.
Mbappe?
Well,
there's only so many players it can be, right?
I think I'd be surprised if it's someone who's not Mbappe, Bellingham, or Harland.
I'd be knocking someone English.
Just because I feel like that's normally their frame of reference.
But all the other players I mentioned there were English, weren't they?
And it was Kane, Sancho.
So Bellingham mentioned.
Sanko, as Key to call it.
He insists on doing it to the point where you think he must have been given some inside information.
Otherwise, why would you carry on doing it?
I don't think it actually.
I think it's not Mbappe.
Mbappe is a bit older than that.
He's not been 21 for a while.
Funnier than is he dead.
It's been ages since he was 21.
I haven't been 21 for ages, mate.
Yeah, I would say Bellingham will maybe Harlem.
Did Bellingham move the same summer as Kane or the summer after?
Bellingham moved summer 21.
Kane moved...
No, so to Madrid?
Oh, no, sorry, summer 22.
Bellingham.
No, summer 21.
No, it was more recent than that, wasn't it?
No, he's done two seasons at Rail only.
So 2021.
Summer 2023.
Oh,
yeah.
So that is the same summer as Kane.
Maybe it is Bellingham.
But then, yeah, but then would you be talking about his potential value?
Surely they could only be talking about.
They wouldn't be talking about that after he'd moved to Real Madrid, right?
But Bellingham was born in 2003, so he wouldn't have been 21 in 2023.
When Bellingham moved, he was still 19.
The Haaland, then?
Because Harlan's more of a direct comparison with Kane, isn't he?
Both centre-forwards.
But then he also mentioned that when was he?
Yeah.
Harlan moved in 2023.
I don't know how old he was at that point.
I would guess older than 21.
How old is Karl Palmer?
How old is Karl Palmer?
Palmer is a.
Palmer is
sort of 2002 birthday, I think.
All right, for Prinzier Ramon.
2002 born time.
What in the state of you?
I reckon it could be Cole Palmer.
I quite like Palmer.
Yeah,
I think Palmer is actually better.
It's not Mbappe.
I don't think it's Bellingham.
I think it's probably likelier to be Palmer than Harland.
So I think Palmer's a good answer.
Palmer feels more like they would be saying he's still gonna prove himself as well.
I think.
Shall we?
Yeah.
Go for Cole Palmer.
The answer is Erling Haaland.
Ah, shit.
As he moved from Dortmund to Manchester City.
Right, it remains 4-2 as we go into your final audio question.
What famous quote is this dubbed into Russian?
So
it's clearly Mourinho, and I think it.
I mean, it's weird, like Portuguese and Russian sound weirdly similar anyway, but I think it is Jose, and I think you can hear him say
like problema or something.
So I would say, if I speak, I'm in big trouble.
That would be my guess.
Oh, nice.
Happy with it.
You're going with Jose Mourinho.
If I speak.
Yep.
Let's hear it.
I prefer really not to
speak.
If I speak, I am in big trouble.
In big trouble.
And I don't want to be in big trouble.
Very good.
What's the weird music behind that clip?
Listen, mate, needs must.
Is it Premier League here?
Is it cut out of Premier League?
It was some of the video called Mourinho's Wackiest Quote.
That's the depths you have to get to when you're at 1am the night before.
Right, a sterling effort from View from the Lane.
Possibly Eccliche's quiz record of four out of five for the audio round.
That's exceptional work.
Great logic.
Again, you lead 5-2.
Let's have your audio round, please.
So my thinking was, you guys, you know, you're all very knowledgeable football men, but in terms of music,
I'm not so sure.
I've got to be honest.
I'm not so sure.
So we have got here five songs recorded by footballers, and I want you to tell me who the footballing vocalist is.
You don't need the name of the song.
I mean if you want to give it then fine but we don't need we're going five out of five here lads I'm telling you.
And here's the first clip
here we go.
The world is waiting.
The giant sleeps, a dream awakes.
One right, hope and pride.
Yeah, we'll do it.
Get through it.
You're on your knees and you are praying.
The hand of God and what might be.
You're believing it, you're breathing it.
The tears of joy.
The nation will dream.
I haven't heard this before.
El Tel?
To me, it seems like the kind of thing you would like listen to.
I've heard him singing live before, but like, you know, crooning about over a different track.
But I haven't heard this particular song before, but it's it's L Tell.
But we think it's Venables, yeah?
It's Terry Venables for certain, yeah.
So it must have been a song that he did before a World Cup, maybe in like 06 or
maybe even 2010.
I don't know.
But yeah, it's Terry Venables.
Terry Venables, England Craval.
Really good.
And when was it released, James?
Was it 2002 World Cup, maybe?
But it was a bit more...
Because that was when it became Leeds manager, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was for the 2002 World Cup, yeah, which was kind of that must have been quite close proximity to his leads team.
Yeah,
he got appointed that summer.
Wow.
Off the back of this.
Off the back of this.
He impressed
his displays.
If anyone's going to be impressed by something like that, it would be the original display.
You know what?
Let's get this shit.
Tripled his salary as a result.
David O'Leary could never.
5-3.
Clip 2.
Roll the tape, Dave.
I wanna be with you.
People
worry,
whatever it goes.
Hear some music.
Start the feeling too.
It's called Not the Dancing Kind, and that really rings a bell.
This, I, I, I, I don't recall this song at all, but now I've understood what I'm saying.
How have have you worked that out?
Because they kept singing it.
The chorus was not the dancing kind.
And now it's on the tip of my brain.
Okay, just as a starting point, John Fashnew, just as someone who was fingers in lots of pies, and I feel like once you've branched out a little bit, often those types of people, then like, yeah, fuck it, I could probably do a song as well.
I don't believe so.
I don't think he ever ventured into music, honestly.
Okay.
But this
sort of era.
The era is definitely right.
I think it's sort of late 80s, 90s, but not mid to late 90s.
So it's around the turn of the 80s and 90s.
80s, 80s?
Not the dance.
Again, is there any.
Who is it?
I mean, it's not John Barnes.
It doesn't sound like him.
Paul Parker.
Tell me to give you a clue.
They're not all Spurs-related, are they?
Go on, yeah.
Give us a clue, yeah.
This person is one of the great Premier League imports.
Oh, Rude Hullett.
Oh, it's Rude Hillett!
It's Rude Hillett.
Thanks, James.
Yeah, that's it.
It matches the title.
Now I know who it is.
It's Rude Hullett.
Is that your final answer?
Yes.
Yeah, it's Rude.
Thank you, mate.
Sorry, Jack.
Appreciate it, James.
You're facing a mutiny,
Jack, for that clue.
Really passed the ball across my own six-yard paper.
Yeah, I really thought when James had joined the clue, he'd be setting that up so he could give us something entirely unhelpful.
And then he did that.
It's like, great.
Thanks, James.
Okay, the score is 5-4 to view from the lane.
Let's have our third question, please.
combat.
Si sa suit, es a ju prefont, confer son.
We've got a feeling.
We've got a feeling.
We've got a feeling.
We've got a feeling.
Dropped it did some music, didn't he, at some point?
That was French.
There was some French French speaking in the name.
Yeah, it was French.
I just wanted to know what you guys thought.
Do you want both names, James, or just one?
Oh, yeah, sorry.
Two names, yes.
It's Basil Bolly and Chris Waddle.
Oh, wow.
Fair play.
Is that your final answer?
Yeah, I think it's the B side.
I can't remember if it's the B side to their single or the single itself.
But yeah, it's Basil Bolly and Chris Waddle.
We got a feeling.
Before our time, Dave.
It must be a single because there's a very good video to it on YouTube.
So yeah, check that out.
Yeah, but that is correct.
Well done, lovely stuff.
We have drawn level at 5-5.
Let's have the fourth clip, please, Dave.
I think I've got it.
Go for it.
It's Clint Empsey.
I think it's Clint Dempsey too.
Deuce.
Charlie, do you think it's Clint Mpsey?
Let's go with Deuce.
Clint Empsey is correct.
This is a nightmare.
I thought you'd find this much harder.
Underestimate us, your peril.
There's only so many, there's only so many songs sung by footballers, ultimately, isn't there?
That's true.
I know you're all over those listicles, I know that much.
Right, let's have number five.
This is definitely the hardest one.
I'm not out of life to date.
See, and
I'll keep posting
bad.
But can I just say, before you ask about the lyrics, I have tried to find them online and couldn't find them, which is maybe an indication of the level we're looking at here.
Any thoughts, guys?
No.
I mean, great of its time
sort of music so
i thought when it when the when we first heard it i thought maybe gareth ainsworth that was my pussy
famously a bit of a rocker i don't know if he's actually released any music though no he was in a band oh no i see what you mean just what just played life but didn't release music yeah yeah um other thought i had the notting forest guy yeah paul mcgregor
i think it's him they definitely released music uh his band was called something absurd like it was like an abstract noun that that probably was sounded like a cool idea for a band name, but ultimately, really shit.
I don't think
two things about Gareth Ainsworth's band.
They didn't release any music, I don't think, and they were just a bit sort of messier, a bit sort of.
This is a bit more kind of synthy, and Paul McGregor's music was more like that, I understand.
So I think, if we're in a room, let's go for mid-90s Nottingham Forest waif Paul McGregor.
I can confirm the song was Sex War, Sex Cars, Sex by Ulteria, featuring Paul McGregor.
Yes!
I take it back.
It wasn't
an adjective, but it's fine.
I'd be applauding if I wasn't holding my phone to record my audio.
Fair play.
Great questions, Paul McGregor.
That's not that's not gone as planned.
After the audio round, then did we get all five then?
Fair play.
We really stepped up.
It's 7-5 to clichés, and we'll be back very shortly with round three.
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Welcome back to the Football Cliches Quiz 2010 times indeed as we go into the final third round.
Clichés leads 7-5.
Still all to play for.
Come on, lads, we need a big, clear-headed round here.
And your final round view from the lane will be happy hunting grounds, as is tradition.
Some technical matters to take care of.
No answers from the 2024-25 season that's just gone will be accepted.
And whilst we took on board the feedback from Adam Hicken, who said that not giving any points for getting the year wrong was too harsh.
You should go half points if they get a year either side.
Well, we think that might dilute the experience, so we're sticking with it.
It's all or nothing.
You have to get the goal scorer and the season correct in Happy Hunting Grounds.
I'm going to give you the choice of difficulty levels of one to three and then give you a commensurate combination of club and stadium in the Premier League era.
You have to tell me who has scored for that club at that stadium and in which season.
Right, you trail 7-5 for question one, will you go for level 1, 2 or 3?
My view is that unless it's Spurs, I'm going to be equally crap at all levels.
So we might as well go for level 3.
Wow.
I was just going to say, let's go two each time, just straight down the middle and and then see what we get.
Different approaches.
What do you think?
I don't have an opinion.
Will you go for the honest and ambitious approach of Dan Kilpatrick or the
playing the averages approach of James Moore?
James, you're captain.
You get to decide.
How about we go for a couple of twos first and if we're doing well we get bold and do some threes.
Okay, like it, yeah.
Right.
Fine, we'll start with a two.
Level two for question one then.
You're level two for two points.
Aston Villa at Goodison Park.
Right.
Uh, instantly, I'm thinking of that mad game in
2008, 2009, where Ashley Young scored.
It was like maybe Everton came back from 2-0 down, took 2-2, and then Villa won in the last minute or something like that.
Was that the famous one where O'Neill had his arms round Young at the end?
That's an unnecessary detail.
I know,
I remember watching it on telly, and at the end, I think O'Neill was like walking around the pitch with his arm around Ashley Young.
As you would do if you scored an injury-time winner in a dramatic game.
I'm very confident of this.
And like the cameras are right up in his face.
I'm very confident.
I think that's a really good shout.
So that's Young 8-9, right?
That was still like when O'Neill was when O'Neill's Villa were good.
Yeah.
So we're saying Ashley Young 2008-2009.
Ashley Young 2008-09.
That day was Everton 2, Aston Villa 3.
Goal scorers for the villains that day.
Steve Sidwell.
And at the double, Ashley Young.
That was brilliant, James.
I was spotted.
Nowhere near that.
Well damn.
Martin O'Neill calling Ashley Younger a genius on the pitch at the end.
Yeah, the Happy Hunting Grounds algorithm throwing up the Aston Villa at Goodson Park for the second consecutive quiz.
Astonishing scenes.
Not the top 20.
Got the goal scorer, but not the year.
But you got them both for a level two.
So you've drawn level at seven all.
Question two then, view from the lane.
What level are you going for?
One, two, or three.
Tweet two again, yeah.
You're going two
again.
Right, your question, your combination, is Liverpool at the London Stadium?
I mean, there was a game that Liverpool won like on 5-0 or 6-0.
Was that this season just gone, though?
So maybe, yeah, we can't have that one.
Should we play the averages?
Reminder that you've got to get the goal scoring year, bang on, to get the points.
I.e., Salah in the last few years.
In a year where West Ham was here.
Going for Salah in either 18-19 or 21-22 when they were both or sorry, or 19-20 in all three of those seasons they were so good I'd say our chances of landing will be quite high but I can't think of as I don't have a specific memory nor do I so I I would vote we'd have to play the average on one of the Salah good seasons so we go 19-20 then that feels like the best playing of the percentages yes you're going for most salah 19-20 yep west ham united nil liverpool two goalscorers that day alex oxlade chamberlain and muhammad salah
yeah
If you've got 18-19, you'd been wrong.
If you'd gone 20-21, you would have been correct.
If you've gone 21-22, you would have been wrong.
So good navigating of the asteroid belt of happy hunting grounds there.
Another two points to you.
You lead 9-7 as we go into question 3.
What difficulty level would you like now?
Well, we've got our confidence up.
Yeah, we have.
Let's bring it back down to Earth by going for free and getting it wrong.
Okay.
Right, you're going for a level three.
It's Liverpool again
at the Vitality Stadium.
Okay, the percentages.
No, I don't think that is playing the percentages like a Saturday, is it?
Because he joined in 2017.
When did they...
Oh, Vitality, sorry, I was thinking it was Swampers.
Bournemouth, yeah, they've been there for a while.
What was that famous like 4-3 game there when Bournemouth had just come up?
Oh, yeah.
Bournemouth won, though, right?
And Fermino, maybe.
Fermino.
Yeah.
I think
early in that season, I think, when people were still kind of going on about Liverpool not being able to control games and defenders,
I don't think it was the club half season, 15-16.
I think it was 60%.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And I think it was, I forgot that, who's that annoying little Scottish winger?
Is it Fraser?
Ryan Fraser?
Is that right?
Yeah, I think so.
But I'm just trying to think the Liverpool goals.
I don't actually remember the Liverpool goal scorers in that game.
I kind of think maybe Fermino and Lalana.
Yeah, Fermino and La Lana.
Fermino and Lalana
are the kind of safest bets.
Should we say let's say Fermino?
Yeah, Fermino.
Let's say.
Firmino 16-17 is our answer.
Yeah.
We're going for Roberto Fermino 2016-17.
You were correct.
It was Bournemouth 4, Liverpool 3.
Goal scorers for the visitors that day.
Sadio Mane,
Devocarigh,
and Emre Chan.
Ah, no!
Who are we going to say, Emre Chan?
Why did you just go for Mo fucking Salah?
What's wrong with you?
He scored pretty much every time at the Vitality Stadium, bar a couple.
So, astonishing scenes.
I can't believe you missed that one out.
We should have just gone Salah and then, like,
that was the player again.
We should have done the same thing twice.
Don't let it corrupt your thinking for the rest of this quiz.
You remain 9-7 ahead.
Question 4: What difficulty level would you like?
Should we go back to two?
Or do we really
put towers between our legs back to two?
Does that seem it?
Right, yeah.
Let's see that.
Level two.
Arsenal at Ewood Park.
Henri at some point.
Well, that hasn't.
I mean, when did Blackburn went down in what, 2013?
So it's not happened for a while?
2013?
Yeah.
2012.
2013?
Steve Twin?
2012.
2012, maybe?
I think this is huge.
I think this is potentially.
I don't think this is what we should say.
I have the feeling, and this would have been 11-12, I think.
I think, you know, like Arsenal signed all those players after they got smacked by Man United.
Oh, yeah, like Pochi.
Arteta.
I think they might have won at Ewood, like a couple of weeks after that.
And I think Arteta might have scored.
God, Arteta would be a big call.
I'm looking at Charlie for any kind of flickers.
That was our point about Really.
I'm going to turn my video off.
Big call.
I mean, if it was like we should just go with Henri and one of the moments.
I'm absolutely voting Henri just at one of the seasons.
I think based on last time's failure, if we went for Henri, like, hold on, when did Blackburn come back up?
2001?
2002?
Yeah, 2001, I think.
Yeah.
So if we go for like Henri 03-04, for example, do you think that would be the percentage guess?
I was trying to think of if I can think of watching a...
I can't.
Again, I don't know specificity about that.
I can remember that one.
Wasn't there one where Yakubu scored a hat-trick or something, but I just can't think who scored for Arsenal in that game.
And now I'm wondering if that was in the 11-12 season, actually.
My lads, Henri 01-02 or 03-04?
Yeah, I think maybe let's go.
3004 is safer.
Yeah, let's go Henri 34.
Henri 03-04, Blackburn-I'll Arsenal 2.
Goal scorers that day, Robert Pires and Thierry Henri.
It's a free kick.
It was also the game that he nicked the ball out of Friedel's hands and scored, and it was disallowed.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, that's naughty.
Uh, Charlie, was I right about Arteta?
You were, yeah.
Oh my god, that's pretty good.
But that was also the Okubu game you were thinking about.
Oh, wow.
Blackburn won at 4-3.
Arteta move over, Charlie.
There's a new Arsenal expert in town.
Seems to be.
View from the lane, you lead 11 points to 7.
You could really set your stall out here with question 5.
What level are you going to go for?
We could
consolidate at this point with a 1, but I don't really want to do that.
We've done well with the twos.
I think it makes sense just to do another two, right?
I think the twos are the right place for us.
Yeah, we're going to have another two, please, Adam.
Going for two.
Your question is: Chelsea at the Stadium of Light.
Weirdly, the Chelsea at Stadium of Light.
I can think of one.
Go on.
I think
Hazard definitely scored in a game where Chelsea won like 4-1 or 4-0 or something.
But I can't think which season that would have been.
Annoyingly.
So we joined in 2012.
When did something go down just after that?
2017?
2017, wasn't it?
So, I mean, it gives you five seasons to play with.
Russian roulette.
Who scored the Chelsea gold in that 4-1?
You know, that one where Quinn and Phillips both scored twice.
Who scored the goal for Chelsea?
Maybe it was 4-0.
Let's not do this.
Let's not Roberto Fermino this.
I think Hazard is a really good bet.
It's just a case of choosing Chelsea.
I'd almost go like the second season, 13-14, maybe.
I'd say
the Jozo title season, right?
13.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, based on our previous successes, I'd go Hazard or Jogba in one of the seasons where they were good.
Because at Chelsea,
there aren't loads of prolific goals.
It's not like there's an honorary or a salad, right?
It is like
the goals are more evenly spread.
So, yeah, should we say Hazard 14-15?
Is that what we're saying?
No, well, yeah, 14-15-3.
14-15 is when they won the league, isn't it?
Yeah.
Under Jose.
You're going for Eden 15.
We'll go Hazard 14.
14-15.
Yep.
If you'd gone for 13-14.
Ah, shit.
Sunderland 3, Chelsea 4, Eden Hazard at the double, you got the points.
14-15, Chelsea's title-winning season under Jose Mourinho.
Sunderland nil.
Chelsea nil.
That
is huge.
You end your third round 11-7 ahead.
It's time for the final round for football clichés, please.
So I'll also...
read out our last questions or question
and that's mainly because our old friend Danny Kelly quote-unquote double-booked.
I had to pull out at the last minute.
So, yeah, Dan isn't prepped with a round of questions.
So, look, I mean, Charlie, our old friend, our former View from the Lane colleague, as we know, is a big, big tennis buff.
So, our last question is one question that we're calling the Carlos Alcaraz challenge.
And what I need from you are the names of 15 Wimbledon winners, male or female, who share a surname with a Premier League player past or present.
Wow.
The twist is, get one wrong, you're out of there.
That's a great question.
So they just need to have played in the Premier League.
Just to clarify.
And one Wimbledon.
One Wimbledon, men or women, Wimbledon winners in history that share their names with Premier League players in history, surnames.
Yeah, but not Carlos Alcaraz, because I've given you that one already.
Wow.
Yeah, that was going to be my first answer.
Okay.
right.
Well, Nadal didn't play in the Premier League, uh,
Miguel Angel, but I don't think any Nadal's did either.
So, there must have been a Murray, right?
A Premier League Murray?
Matt Murray of Wolves goalkeeper.
Yep.
And that was in the Premier League era.
He wasn't just knocking around the championship.
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, definitely.
So we're going to go for a moment.
Yeah, let's go for Matt Murray, which I don't think he's even our top answer, really, is it?
But yeah, Matt Murray.
Correct.
You also could have had Glenn Murray.
Oh, yes.
Niche.
There must have been a Williams.
There must be a Williams.
Who's the Forest?
That fullback?
Nico Williams.
There's Darren Williams.
So, yeah, that's definitely one, right?
Williams.
Correct.
I've got Paul Williams written here as well.
But yes, there you go.
The score is 9-11.
I'll go for Alison Becker.
Woo!
Great shout.
Assuming no Brazilian name, funny business.
All right with that?
All right with Becker?
Yep, I will accept Alison Becker.
It's on my way.
Okay, so we need two more to win the quiz right but if you get one wrong
you're gone cry check is there
no has there been a Paul Henman didn't even didn't win Wimbledon though favours yeah
um has there been a Premier League Connors don't think so Connors okay has there been a Premier League Ash
McEnroe no McEnro no Borg no Nevratilova I would I would much I would much prefer you to work sort of reverse chronological here, Charlie.
Graph.
Reverse, go more recent names.
Sort of start recent, go back.
Hewitt.
Okay.
Well, there haven't been, yeah, there haven't been many male winners.
There's just been Alcaraz and then the big four.
Yeah, that's as wide.
And then Hewitt, that's ticking them off.
And then that's 2002.
So let's just check there.
No, Nadow, no, Djokovic, obviously.
No Federer.
Great question.
Then 90s, you've got Sampras, Kreijek.
Agassiz.
Has there been a shtick?
Agassizi.
Shtick.
There can't be an Agassi.
Ivan Izovich.
I think.
Edberg.
I think we're looking for plain-named women here, you know.
Wade.
Wade.
Has there been a Wade?
Premier League Wade.
Evett.
Has there been a Premier League Evert?
Evett.
It's not spelt.
So it had to be spelt the same, Jason.
It's E-V-E-R-T.
I mean, Evert and Evett is not the same, is it?
Let's face it.
Yeah, yeah, you can't have that.
Kind of Ian Evert, no.
Of Blackpool fame.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Conchita Martinez in 94, there's been a Martinez, obviously.
Oh!
Martinez!
Sanchez Vicario!
Can we have Vicario?
Sanchez and Vicario!
Well, hold on, let's just bank Martinez.
Yeah, Martinez, that's it.
Please, James.
Well, you need to give me the name of the Premier League player, please, Charlie.
Emi Martinez.
Yeah, that'll do.
11 all.
We need one more.
What about Arancha Sanchez-Vicario, then?
Well, I don't think that's not a...
I think we can get an actual one.
It's two in one, though, isn't it?
Yeah.
No, we won't have that.
I like it, though.
Yeah, it's good.
And she also, she she never won Wimbuden.
So
fucking hell, really?
Wow.
Yeah.
Two finals.
She's mad.
95, 96.
This is classic.
Charlie's in absolute ecstasy here.
Tennis and gets to explain stuff to people.
Right.
Rafter.
There's no rafters, is there?
Never won Wimbuden.
Matty Cash.
That's what I'm thinking of.
That's what I was thinking of.
Yeah, the Australian.
They are interchangeable.
Matty Cash, Patty Cash.
It's painful for all the Premier League players for it to be Matty Cash.
I've got to relinquish this first podcast.
Yeah, that is correct.
Congratulations.
Top, top, top quizzing from you.
Do you want to carry on giving me a question?
So there are 15 potential answers.
Oh, there are loads.
They're way more than that.
Go on, Charlie.
Reel some more off, and we'll call it quits.
Well, King, Billie Jean King, there's obviously been like Josh King.
Ledley, come on.
Ledley.
Betraying.
Yeah, another dagger.
Yeah, no, we don't have to keep doing it.
Yeah, Smith.
Jones.
Yeah, you could have had, what, Roy Emerson?
Nice.
Yeah.
Who else have we got here?
I mean, yeah, there are Gibson, Lucas,
Smiths, Watsons, Perry.
Who had that?
Chris Perry.
Chris Perry.
Chris Perry was a good one.
You should have done it in the art of technology, Charlie.
Oh, Lindsay and Callum Davenport.
Oh, nice.
This is top class.
We'll do Formula One drivers or something for the next one.
I mean, we could have been about 20 points ahead and still lost this this quiz.
I just, I think for Mino and Hazard, this could have made it very interesting indeed.
But what a good quiz.
Really, really enjoyable.
12-11 we win, but I think it was a little bit
quite as close as the score might suggest.
View from the lane, really pleased to have you.
How do you feel?
Not too bad.
Enjoyed it.
I'm proud.
Had fun.
Jack Pitbrook speaking with the sort of philosophy of a man who I suspect is going to have another crack at this Pod v.
Pod quiz in the near future, if he can get his arse in gear.
Not my ass in Easter Vear.
Thanks to you, Dan Kilpatrick.
Pleasure.
Thank you.
Thanks to you, James Moore, the quiz master.
Thank you.
Thanks to you, Charlie Eccleshare.
Thank you.
Thanks to you, Dave Walker.
Thank you.
And thank you to View from the Lane for picking a strangely
generous Charlie Eccleshare-based question for the last round.
Cheers.
Yeah, thanks, guys.
Yeah, surprisingly easy going from you guys.
Thanks to everyone for listening.
We'll be back on Tuesday.
See you then.
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