The Football Cliches Quiz XIX: Not The Top 20

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This is the Football Cliches Quiz 19.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Football Clichés.

I'm Adam Hurry.

This is the 19th edition of the Clichés Quiz.

Some team news for you.

Charlie Eccleshare is on Team Clichés.

How are you doing?

Very well, thank you.

Everyone remembers where they were when when they heard a snatch victory from the jaws of, well, a draw, actually, against Jonathan Wilson's.

It was what it was in Clichés Quiz 18.

That means, Charlie, in the pod v pod era, we're now played nine, won three, drawn one, lost five.

It's looking respectable.

Okay.

Yeah.

Edging towards mid-table.

Yeah, I would say so.

Alongside you, of course, is David Walker.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

That record is

edging towards being sacked if you're the Waffer Waffer manager, I think, isn't it?

Really?

So,

which one of us would get sacked?

That's what I want to know.

Um, anyway, such was the heartbreak of that defeat.

Wilson's had to go and create another podcast just to have another shot at the clichés quiz in future.

Uh, that's how desperate he is to win.

Anyway, our quiz opponents today are absolute EFL merchants, they are the Football Supporters Association fan media of the year winners.

They are the not the top 20 podcast.

Ali Maxwell, first up, welcome back to Football Cliches.

You are the first person in the clichés quizzes pod v pod era to have turned out for and against football clichés.

So is it going to be a respectful celebration from you later on?

No, certainly not.

I'm already embarrassed because I went into the wrong dugout when I arrived.

I was so used to going into the clichés dugout.

But no, it does feel a little strange.

I was pleased to have been a part of one of Football Clichés team's rare victories and hopefully now on the right side of it for Team Not the Top 20.

Alongside you helping you to try and do that is George Elliot.

How are you doing, George?

I'm good.

Yeah, thanks.

I think I'm going to use that, going to use that Ali's trivia next time in the quiz, but I'm next on next time.

It's going to be like inception quizzing.

Yeah,

we like to kind of keep things tight on this podcast.

How niche have you gone with your questions today?

I basically wrote about 20 questions, and Ali and I went through them, and we had to cull probably 13 for being too niche.

So that's

so you got, so you've got the least niche of the.

I mean, it's, as you can imagine, it's relatively EFL heavy with some England twists in it, too.

Okay, I look forward to that.

Anyway, completing your trio, and he's ending his 317-episode wait for a return to the clichés pod.

He's a former Nottingham Forest, Southampton, and England under-21 midfielder.

And now he's the sky bet Dave Jones, but with slightly better clothes.

It's David Prutton.

Hello.

Hello.

I mean, we all wear variations on a theme.

It's all middle-aged men's knitwear, isn't it?

Which,

to get it bang up today, we covered a game last night where Michael Bridges thought we were indoors, so came in a t-shirt to the northeast, and several of us could offer him the same amount of clothing

out of different cars from basically the same places.

We all know these brand new pop-up labels or do the same big white trainers, daft trousers and tops.

So I'll take that as an as a as some form of compliment.

Thank you.

Yeah, you look like, at least you look like you choose your own clothes.

They're not just thrust upon you.

So you make it work.

But as a broadcast professional, though, Pratz, how do you regather yourself after events at the Stadium of Light on Tuesday night?

And then just hours later, try to raise yourself again for the greatest quiz in football podcasting.

It takes a lot of

various liquids of varying degrees of strength and obviously get your electrolytes back in as well.

But no, I mean,

unbridled euphoria and joy from last night, I really hope feeds into this.

And judging by George's face, we're going to need it.

Christ.

Fascinating end to that game, Dave.

The header from Dan Ballard that won it for Sunderland in the 122nd minute, I understand.

And someone on Reddit said the language of football has come up too short for that genuinely odd but fantastic Dan Ballard header for Sunderland.

Not stooping, arguably got up too early, but can he be too early when he did that?

A folding header?

Very strange, very good.

And what kind of header was it?

I've never seen anything like it.

The fact that he got up so high off the ground, but he got his head so low that it was almost in between his legs as he was heading the ball.

It was absolutely remarkable.

Charlie, could we call it a stouring header?

So it's towering and stooping.

A stouring header from Dan Ballard.

It obviously works.

It does, because initially I thought it was a shoulder because the way the trajectory of it is like, oh, he's just obviously shouldered that.

He's mistimed it.

I'm so glad for him it wasn't shoulder.

Yeah.

But yeah,

the EFL playoffs continue to be the gift that keeps giving.

But on all matters EFL, the not the top 20 are going on the road, George.

Tell us about that.

We are.

Yeah, we're playing in Sheffield on Saturday, the 5th of July, three o'clock kickoff.

It's part of Crosswires Festival.

We're playing at the Crucible, which seems...

I know.

Knowledgeable crowd.

Knowledgeable crowd.

Exactly.

And we're going to have another live show going on next to us at exactly the same time where there'll be applause and cheering throughout.

No, that won't be happening.

It'll just just be us.

So, yeah, you can find tickets on the Crosswires Festival site.

There are loads of good pods playing up there for the weekend.

But yeah, it's going to be like a celebration of the EFL.

We'll be going through some of the crazy things that have happened over the season just gone.

We'll have some special guests there too, those who don't ask for as much money as David Prutton.

And it's going to be a

great day.

So do come up and see us if you fancy it.

And we'll be out and about in town afterwards.

Unconfirmed reports that David Walker will be in and around Sheffield post-game until the early hours as well.

And I'll bring the happy hunting grounds out with me.

Right, let's hope you go into that live show with moral low.

Let's get started.

A reminder of the format: each team are going to pose three rounds of five questions to the other team.

A total of 25 points will be on offer.

Let's kick things off with our first round.

It's the trivia round.

David Walker, take us away.

Okay, question one.

Which current Premier League manager wants Bagda Brace in a UEFA Cup final?

A.

Michael Arteta,

B.

Enzo Mareska, C.

Andoni Iriola, or D Rude van Nistelroy.

Interesting.

I think we can rule out Irayola off the bat because he was a right back that barely ever scored in about a thousand games for Athletic Klub.

But George's face makes me think maybe I've...

Maybe I'm saying something crazy here.

I'm trying to think, can we rule out Arteta as well, just in terms of it quite unlikely, given his

who he played for?

We would probably remember that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If it had been Rangers or Overton or Arsenal, or I don't know how many games he played for FC Barcelona.

Mareska.

You're really bringing the pronunciations on you, Annie.

That's great.

Yeah, absolutely.

Just loving the

pronunciation.

And who are the other two?

They're Mareska and Rude Vanisroy.

As a very boring straight-line who scores goals, Van Nisteroy is the one that jumps out.

But I'm more than willing to be led by greater minds than mine, i.e., you two.

Well, it's either the kind of

obvious right one that you try and be too clever and go with Maresko, and then it's obviously the pistol Van Nistel.

Or

they've chucked that in for exactly that reason.

I think Mareska played for Sevilla, and they've won every UEFA tournament since the dawn of time.

So it'd be tempting to go for him.

But again, I don't really remember him as a goal-scoring midfielder.

Didn't rip it up at the Hawthorne's, did he?

So Van Nistroy would have been PSV in a UEFA Cup final.

I don't remember one of those.

No, it seems unlikely.

United, no.

But we are going generationally, though, aren't we?

This is a long time ago.

Just to caveat every question that you asked me where I go, it was a long time ago.

There are also 14 questions remaining, lads, so you do need to answer them.

We need to.

Ali.

Let's go with Enzo Marasca.

That is correct.

Yes.

Enzo Maresca did score a brace in a UEFA Cup final.

Let's spend five minutes on every single.

Oh, is that not the format?

2006 UEFA Cup final.

And what does Brunil Sevilla 4 Maresca notching two late on?

Right, you're on the board already.

Charlie, give me a second question, please.

Okay, question two.

What links the following players?

Phil Bab, Victor Gyukores, and Mustafa Haji?

Incredible.

It's got to be just

something related to Coventry.

But what?

Right.

Where did Bab go abroad?

He went to

somewhere in Portugal.

Who was it?

Bab, Jokeris, and Mustafa Hadgi.

Hadgie.

Anything Lisbon-based with us?

Is it all?

Oh.

Play for Coventry and Lisbon?

Did Bab play for Coventry?

That's an amazing answer to what would be quite a niche question.

Do you know what?

I honestly think that could be it, Coventry and Sporting.

Do we think that Bab might have gone out there when

yeah, he definitely went or is it Coventry and

I thought it might be Coventry and played in a World Cup because obviously Hadji 98 springs to mind.

But I definitely think Bab went to the Liga Nosh at some point.

Yeah, let's do that.

So it's it's they've played for Coventry City

and in the Liga Nosh and if that's not specific enough, Coventry City and Sporting Lisbon.

Well the correct answer is they play for both Coventry City and Sporting Lisbon.

So I think you can have that.

You very much can have that, yeah.

Very good.

Phil Bab feels more Ben Fika to me.

Fair play.

But yeah, incredible, incredible little connection between the three of them.

No more backup answers.

Yeah, very,

great to see Charlie on it straight away.

Two points to not the top 20 already.

Right, question three.

I want you to pick two of the FIFA Confederations and tell me their highest highest-ranked nation never to have played at a men's World Cup.

So, two of the six FIFA confederations and tell me the highest-ranked nation never to have played at a men's World Cup.

So, this isn't an EFL-themed quiz.

That's good to know.

It's happened there.

And by,

just to clarify,

with confederations,

we've gone global, haven't we?

Yes, this is Europe, Oceania, South America, North and Central America, Africa, and Asia.

I'd say, does New Zealand jump out to either of you two?

No, they've been in a World Cup.

They've played

famously unbeaten in the group stages.

And still went out.

Have Egypt been

in a World Cup in our...

Because they've got to be relatively highly ranked as it stands.

And I kind of remember them.

They don't stand out with any single World Cup, but you feel like they must have done, given they've won so many AFCONS and are just one of the bigger and better nations.

There's a bit of a 70s vibe to Egypt, I feel, with regards to participation.

Well, you're around on Pratt.

Oh, good to get that joke out of the way.

That's why

I played a network.

Okay, to speed things along, I'm going to think of

a European answer.

And George, you think of Africa.

We've got a possible African.

okay.

What up, Pratz?

Pratz can think of

that.

And will I be the

decisive

answer to the both?

So you've only got to pick two out of the six confederations.

Have Bolivia been at a World Cup?

I mean, South America could be quite an interesting one as well.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with that.

I think so.

Let's go with Bolivia and South America.

And Egypt in.

I think we go for.

I mean, Anesth Prats, you confident you've seen Egypt or you know of Egypt in a World Cup?

Yeah, I mean, it's a gut feeling.

My gut's always wrong, so feel free to dismiss.

Let's go with Bolivia in South America and Egypt in Africa.

Sorry, perhaps.

Right, let's start with Bolivia.

Bolivia actually kicked off the 1994 World Cup, mere minutes after Diana Ross missed her penalty.

They played at USA 94.

Egypt, well, as for Egypt, they played at World Cup 2018.

No.

Italia Italia 90 and all the way back in 1934.

That's fine.

I don't care about Italian 19 other one, but that's embarrassing.

That's a stinker.

Not in the 70s at all.

Yeah, you could have

never in the 70s.

That's the only thing he said.

So, yeah, you got neither of the corrections.

But nowadays, the 90s feels like the 70s, doesn't it?

We're all in that head.

That's true.

Was that for one point?

We had to get two for one point.

I know.

It's two out of six.

So there you go.

Yeah, Europe would have been Albania.

Oceania would have been Solomon Islands.

South America was Venezuela, the only South American nation never to have played at the World Cup.

Over in CONCACAF, that would have been Curaçao.

Africa, the highest-ranked nation in Africa, never to have been at the World Cup, is Mali.

And in Asia, it would have been Uzbekistan, who have actually qualified.

Tough.

That would be forthcoming.

It is a good thing.

I feel like you kept that one back in case we were on to add a two.

I have fiddled with the order somewhat.

Right.

Still, two points on the board for you, Locke.

Dave, give them question four, please.

Question four.

Roberto Carlos scored the opening goal in a 3-0 win for Brazil in the last international game held at which British stadium?

A Goodison Park,

B Anfield, C Whiteheart Lane, or D

Ibrox.

3-0 win for Brazil in an international game at one of those stadiums.

Yeah, gut instinct is Ibrox because I don't remember a Carlos free kick against England.

Which, given that we do the England pod, it'd be quite bad if I have just completely fresh aired that.

And surely one of us would remember that if it was an English get

how smart these questions have been so far, then IBROX does feel like a bit of a bell ringing.

There's a chance it's a trick question and the game wasn't against England but was played against someone else, as some games are played

in this nation that don't involve us.

But I think we'll go with D Ibrox.

That is incorrect.

You spotted the trap, but nevertheless, still fell into it.

I see your trap.

I'll walk into it.

The answer was Goodison Park.

And lads, it was in the Unbro Cup.

No.

Against Japan in 1995.

You probably showed it to me and Ali last week when we were trying to work.

Dave's been banging on about doing a retrospective about the Umbro Cup for the last 20, for the last sort of six weeks.

Good research, lads.

Yeah.

Japan.

Right.

You've still got two on the board.

Let's give them their fifth and final question of round one, please, Charlie.

Okay,

question five.

Name the five biggest stadiums in the Premier League and Football League with the word road in their commonly accepted name.

Prem and champ.

And below.

Well, if you're not going to be able to do

the 92, yeah.

Carrow Road, are we thinking?

Let's see.

Yes.

Carrow and Portman.

Let's just say some and then Ali put like an estimate next to it.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Carrow Portman, we've got Kennelworth.

Brisbane.

Are there any more roads in Amex?

Molyneux.

Amex Road.

Tough place to go.

It's a really tough place to go because it doesn't exist.

Vickeridge, Vicarage.

Vickeridge Road.

The thing is, Kenilworth Road's very s small, so we might as Brisbane.

Nothing Prem-based is there.

They've all been reconstituted, aren't they?

I think.

Loftus, could show.

Yeah.

Loftus.

Oh, yeah, Loftus.

Suddenly a second guessing, like, is it Loftus something else?

So we've got Carrow Road, Portman Road, Vicarage Road and Loftus Road.

I think we can be pretty confident that that they are all.

Yeah, some of us are not getting loads of prem ones, but I don't think we are, are we?

I'm sure we're not.

And then we've got basically Bloomfield Road of Blackpool versus Kenilworth Road.

I reckon Bloomfield Road's bigger.

So do I.

Bloomfield feels bigger.

And

I don't think we have the time to go through too much more.

than

too many more clubs in the in the 72.

So

our five

in do we have to do it in order nope just want the five

just need the top five biggest roads

carrow

baddest roads

uh

well the baddest is a vicarage road uh the biggest

carrot road uh then portman road

loftus road and bloomfield road i'm afraid you're so close but so far you are gonna absolutely kick yourself off you're gonna kick yourself the biggest you missed the biggest.

Bloomfield Road, no, because Elland Road.

Oh, no.

None of you have played at Elland Road or anything.

Nah.

Oh, my God, Proton.

David Protten, you're there every about twice a week.

What are you here for?

That is genuinely awful.

I'm sure they've renamed it Red Bull Summer.

I'm sure that's what Stroke is.

Oh, my god.

Mine goes blank.

That's what happened.

That's crazy.

You almost know it too well.

And

pins out Kennworth Road before that.

Jeez.

Slightly harsh first round on reflection, wasn't it, Dave?

Wondering if I bring back some of those 13 we cut Ali.

Even just an EFL focus will be enough to make

it very possibly.

Anyway, not the top 20.

You have scored two points.

Unleash your first round upon us.

Okay,

so we've got two questions that are multiple choice, and then three that are kind of slightly different format.

The first two both follow the same trend, which is focusing, as we're in the middle of the playoffs at the moment, on playoff EFL playoff semi-final goals, and specifically who provided the assist for some famous goals.

So, Dave, as an example, not as a question, oh, not this one.

If the question was Deanie, the answer would be

here's hog correct right so

first one

oh it's so annoying that the first

two words three words the question are at an road

um

leeds derby uh may 2019 derby's jack marriott races in to score a late goal to make it 4-3 on aggregate.

But who marauded forward and played him through?

Was it

A, Richard Keogh?

B, Fikeo Tomori, or C, Bradley Johnson?

Okay.

Vague memories of watching this.

Two centre-backs there could be marauders.

Doesn't sound very Keo-y to me.

But I don't remember Tamori doing it.

The playoffs, mad stuff happens.

In the last minute, just desperately trying to make something happen.

Maybe it was Keogh.

Maybe it's a nice curve for him for Tomori.

And the other one was Bradley Johnson.

Did you say that?

That feels too logical, doesn't it?

That feels too boring.

Monday.

He's going to be too high already to maraud.

Yeah, yeah.

Ah, you see, they haven't played into our hands.

Right.

When should a maraud start, Dave?

Opta classifiers a maraud as at least 30 yards, right?

I quite like Keogh for this, having already thrown it in the bin.

Should we go with that?

Sorry, what were the other options?

Johnson and Tamori.

Tamori.

They threw away the niche ones, and

we're getting playoff semifinal assists.

Yeah,

go with Keogh.

Yeah, we'll go for Richard Keogh.

Yeah.

The answer is Richard Keogh.

Yes!

And I'd recommend a rewatch because it is superb from the big man.

Right.

We now go to the 18th of May 2023 in the game known as the Miracle of Hillsborough.

When Liam Palmer's 98th minute goal put Wednesday 4-0 up in the game against Peterborough and levelled the tie 4-0 on aggregate before they went on to win in

extra time penalties.

But whose cushioned header provided the assist for Liam Palmer?

Oh, was it?

I re-watched this the other day.

The whole lot because it was so good.

Was it

A, Aiden Flint, B, Callum Patterson, or C Michael Smith?

I showed this to a mate of mine, a Bristol City supporting mate of mine at halftime the other night against Sheffield United saying, never know, mate.

I quite like Patterson for this.

He definitely notched in the same game.

I think he scored the

equaliser to take its penalties in extra time.

I think that's right.

But Aiden Flint is very climbs highest and knocked down.

Who's the other one?

Michael Smith, did you say?

It's a real

stab in the dark for me, this one.

I quite like Patterson.

Go with your instinct.

Callum Patterson.

The answer is Aiden Flint.

We really needed those multiple choice ones.

So I'm afraid that is the end of the multiple choice.

The next three follow the same trend as well.

And this is...

It's kind of multiple choice, I guess, because the answers to all of them are a member of the England Euro 2024 squad playing squad.

Okay,

that's cool.

These players all made their senior league debut coming off the bench in the EFL.

I will tell you the player that they came on for.

You tell me the debutante.

Nice.

Okay.

Right, okay.

Ready?

Yeah.

Right, so question three: the first one here: David Davis.

Jesus Christ.

What, they came on as chiffet chairman?

Crazy stuff happens in the EFL, but military.

I mean, so just

so who were the players that could be like Tony was one, wasn't he?

Of this group of players, just thinking who these players are that made their was he in the squad in the EFL in the Euros, England Euro squad just now.

Sorry, yeah.

Okay, he's got his scored.

He scored Penn.

Feels like a long time ago.

Okay.

So yeah, very heavy EFL presence or sort of early years EFL presence in that squad.

There's Watkins, of course.

Eze.

Eze.

I mean, I've got no comprehension who David Davis played for.

No.

He definitely played.

I think he was a Wolves youngster, but I don't know whether he in turn went out on loan.

And

that could throw the whole thing off.

Yeah, it's very possible.

I mean, depending on who...

If the options are all as hard as that, then in a way our best option would be to just stick with a player and guess him for a while.

Play the percentages.

This is absolutely classic Echo Share this.

Well, because destroying the spirit of the quiz and going with the EF.

Yeah, but who the fuck's David Davis?

I mean, it could be anybody.

It literally could be anyone.

He's a midfielder.

I believe he's a midfielder.

No offense, but there are probably about

12 people with that name who've played in the FL in the last decade.

Okay, but even him being a midfielder doesn't help, Dave, because, you know, that's how substitutions work, isn't it?

We don't know if it's like for like.

Charlie, whilst you are right, you know, by going with the same player each time, we've got a better chance of getting one right.

I still feel like we shouldn't do that but anyway we who knows how it will transpire shall we go with ollie watkins for this first answer so he would have made his efl debut at exeter

tony would have made his efl debut at

northampton oh yeah okay maybe unless he made his debut at newcastle before any of these clubs he did play for newcastle didn't he i know he played for yeah so it's just whether he i mean presumably he would have gone out alone and played

EFL, even if he did start with Newcastle, which I'm not sure if he started with the Newcastle.

You're getting into it now, aren't you?

Yeah.

Okay, well, advance me on Watkins.

Might just try and write out the whole squad.

Defend whether.

Who else was there that had an EFL back?

So there's Tony as a

dunk.

Dunk.

Yeah.

Dunk.

Too long, long time ago.

But I'm just saying players who played it who...

would have started in the EFL.

Did Wharton make the England squad?

He was in the squad, yes.

He was in the squad, yeah.

He didn't get on on the pitch, but he was in the squad.

So

Connor Gallagher,

did he play in the EFL before he played for Chelsea?

Yeah, I think he did, to be fair.

I mean, I guess the problem is probably a lot of them did on loan, even if.

I think

how far our logic is really going to go here.

Do you know what I mean?

So, do you know anything about David Davis where he would have played?

I think he was a central midfielder.

For some reason,

well, I know he played for as I said, I think he was a Wolves player, but he might have gone out on loan somewhere, played somewhere else, probably did.

So that he could have played anywhere and crossed pars with one of these England

GPR stars.

You know, based on that evidence, I don't seem so.

Eza doesn't feel right.

Could have plummeted the leagues, gone down to Exeter,

run out of gas, brought on Watkins.

I don't think it's Watkins.

Okay, I think

I'm going to go.

Let's go for

let's go for Connor Gallagher Connor Gallagher

incorrect David Davis was a central midfielder who came through the Wolves Academy before moving to Birmingham City where he was replaced by Jude Bellingham Jude Bellingham

that works a lot better doesn't it we really should have sort of bellingham can I just point out and for Charlie's benefit as much as anyone that Dave being on your team is an issue for you here because when we're pitching these questions and we wanted to make them EFL themed, he was the original EFL podcaster.

We are going up around for years before not the top 20.

And having spent quite a lot of time with him, particularly over the last year or two, he's got some sneaky knowledge that he doesn't really shout about, like knowing that David Davis is a midfielder that came through at Wolf.

So kind of hard to pitch these.

Yeah, we should have used that better.

Should have thought about, you know, regional loans, not going too far from their parent club, keeping them inside the bubble.

Yeah, right.

Right, next up, question for

Matt Bloomfield.

Matt Bloomfield,

current Luton town manager.

Leighton Orient, Harry Kane?

That's not a final answer.

That's what I'm just throwing out.

I think

Matt Bloomfield was like a Leighton Orient long timer, right?

Absolute legend.

I'm pretty sure.

Feels good.

It feels good.

Go with it.

Which other England player

was Orient Orient?

Charlie, was Orient's...

I'm Kane.

That's

a good question.

He made his debut for Orient.

I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure it was was his first.

Obviously, he then had a run.

I like it.

I like it too.

I like it too.

Is that locked in?

Harry Kane.

Incorrect.

Oh, no.

Matt Bloomfield played for only one club in his senior career.

That club was Wiccan Wonders.

Of course it was Wiccan.

And he was replaced by Iberé Eze for Eze's senior league debut.

Just awful.

Right.

Fifth and final question.

Yeah, again, again.

Should have just done Eze every Christmas.

It's like you've been framed all over again.

Fifth and final question.

The player is Scott McGleash.

Right, we've got to really fucking get this one right.

Right.

Barnett.

Layton Orient.

Or did I sign him for Nayton Orient Champion Manager?

That's annoying.

Oh, no.

It doesn't count if Hablin football manager.

Pretty sure he played for Orient and Barnett.

He wasn't Exeter, though, was he?

Don't think so.

So you think this could be Harry Kane?

Yeah.

Yeah, I do.

Let's take the semi-Charlie approach and just do Kane again.

Double down on Kane.

This was your level.

Correct.

Harry Kane made his debut off the Bench State and Orient for Scott McLeish.

Oh, yeah, because I know about this, because I think they met up, didn't they, for an interview?

Harry Kane met Scott McLeish for interview.

You should have known this.

Anyway.

Lovely round.

Tremendous level.

Did he pretend that he remembered him?

Yes, exactly.

Pretty much.

Got it.

That sounds like that must have been some athletic fodder during COVID, surely.

Massive deja vu coming here.

You also kind of did do Charlie's tactic of guessing the same player every time and getting it right at the end.

So just

we all played our part.

Very much so.

Great showing from both teams so far.

In the questions, at least.

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The clichés quiz 19 is locked at 2-2 with not the top 20.

We go into round two.

It's the audio round.

Kick things off for us, please, Dave.

Question one:

Who is this?

Dubbed into Arabic.

That's really tough.

That's really tough.

I mean, there's an understatement for you.

Sorry.

Bloody hell.

I will say at this point, it does sound like him speaking Arabic.

It does.

It's a very faithful dubbing.

What's in the music in the background?

Was it vaguely Champions League-y, was it?

We can let you hear it again.

Thank you.

That's amazing.

I thought I heard like first group or something like that, but honestly, I don't know.

You know, sometimes they'll say the words in English, and you might get a little clue there.

I mean,

when I've listened to previous episodes,

we've had Mourinho dubbed into all sorts, and you can always tell it's Mourinho by the general lilt.

This person is quite understated, quite quiet, very calm, not giving it big guns.

And I just have no idea who that is.

Not a bad observation.

Also, still trying to work out if these are EFL flavoured.

Is it kind of that like very one, like kind of level amorim delivery in terms of his, like, the way

the way he speaks?

Like, it's very.

I think we can,

in the spirit of sporting fairness, which I'm all about,

we can tell you that this is not an EFL-themed round.

And I'm also happy to say that first group is a very good shout.

That's exactly what he did say.

Thank you.

This is almost

Arabic.

It was a brand name.

It was

just

can we get it one more time?

Just

listen to every element of it as well.

Here we go.

Tell me, tell me

that this isn't

Michael Owen in that fucking helicopter.

Michael Owen doing the promotional video for a helicopter in I'm gonna guess Dubai.

I think you just have to say Michael Owen, don't you?

Michael Owen Owen is our answer in a helicopter.

I can hear the helicopter in the background.

Michael Owen is there.

You can hear him.

And he's understated and he's calm and he's not giving it big guns and it's gonna be called something like first group choppers.

Is that your final answer?

That's our final answer.

Very interesting answer, but is it correct?

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I'm sorry, I'm applauding.

That is sensational.

It takes a very, very dangerous dive at one point.

Nine minutes this video is.

I don't think people realise how long the original is.

They've only seen the clips.

Anyway, 3-2 you lead.

Charlie, give them question 2, please.

That's amazing, Alan.

That is so good.

Tough to top that one, really.

Question 2, though.

Have a go.

Who is Richard Keyes talking to here?

You thank God for your help and your health.

For many of us, you are God.

And I find myself sitting at the right hand of God.

What a place to be.

I just have a feeling it's Pele, but I don't know why I think that, but I just

twigged something.

I'll give you a clue.

It's not Andy Gray.

Is it himself?

He's talking to him into the mirror.

It was also my first thought.

And I think you could kind of hear that gravelly Pele

kind of, as he tried to talk, but Keys wouldn't let him.

Sort of agreeing that, yes, he is very healthy.

Yes, thank you for being correct.

Virile, in fact.

Yeah, standing famously next to Keyser.

Did Pele do the Churchill dog voice as well, George?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Famously.

I think we are, yes.

Right, let's find out.

Let's hear Keys' introduction to this.

It's a beautiful, he is the reason why so many of us grew up to love football.

He was knighted, and not many know this, but he was knighted by the Queen late 90s.

Would you please put your hands together again for our very special guest, Sir Edson Arantes dos nasmento?

Is there also a bit of like him changing his accent?

You know, he's like, yeah, James a bit of a weird,

he absolutely is.

Yeah, you might think that my favourite bit of that is his pronunciation of Dinacimento, but it's not.

It's just him just chucking in late 90s as winter with

90s.

Just have it in the script.

Just do it properly.

Mad thing to say.

Anyway,

Dinas Mento as well to round it off.

Dos Nacimento.

4-2,

You lead.

Right, question three in the audio round for you, not the top twenty.

Who is this?

Dubbed into German.

Jaudeusingesicht and Schau Einfacheing Sicht and Adam and Lucinda Alles Gutterfrein looked like his earlier

match of the day.

David Proton.

There is something very as an odd result to dubbing this guy into German that I never want to repeat, by the way.

Match of the day day at the end.

It's a very jovial match of the day presenter, would we think?

I think at the end he says on today's match of the day,

but I don't know if we're allowed to hear it once more.

Sure.

Once again, incredibly faithful dubbing, by the way.

Joe deer seing sichten, show einfacheing sicht and Adamon Lusinda, and escoote frein, look like his earlimsuzam, eskip kein sweifel, ear zeitas hoitiger, match of the day.

It'd be amazing if it's Chappa's dub like that, because Chappa's is wonderful, but it's not that histrionic when it comes to

introducing Stafizzi.

Well, that's why I'm confused about

maybe we're missing the point by focusing on match of the day presenters, but like it doesn't sound like a bad thing.

I mean, it'd be not one thing to round up because it's a I don't know,

unless it's a manager that's talking about being last on match of the day, and then that's

said something about being all together and

it's a very handy.

Also, sounds like a caricatured version of Jürgen Klopp, but that wouldn't be how Jürgen Klopp would sound in German versus German.

It's got that strained element of a Mitt McCarthy to it.

The kind of light stuff I show you now.

I don't hate that.

I don't.

Adam laughed.

I feel like he wouldn't have laughed if it was the right answer.

I have to say, I just had that rigorous.

He's talking about one of his teams being bottom of the list on match of the day or something, sure.

Yeah.

Should we go for it?

I mean, we...

Yeah.

You're going for Mick McCarthy.

The answer is,

this is on my wedding day.

Look at his face.

Just look at his face.

Adam and Lucinda, all the best for a happy married life together.

There's no question, you are today's match of the day.

That's unbelievable.

I heard Lucinda as well.

I was wondering who Lucinda was.

So good.

Amazing.

Who sorted that out for you?

My brother, who, for reasons I still haven't fathomed, eight years later,

also got a video message from Neil Ruddock.

We don't know why.

You don't know why he did it.

And the sound didn't work, so it was even funnier.

Right.

You didn't get that one, but you lead 4-2.

Question 4 of the audio round, please, Dave.

Question 4: Can you give us the month and the year from this clip of Georgie Thompson from Premier League years?

The Reds might have won the election, but the blues won the cup.

May 97, we think.

Pratz, happy with that?

Yep, I would just a quick

straw poll.

You two were how old in 97?

Turned five.

In May 97, I was six, six and a half.

I think I'd have told you at the time.

And I was 60.

Brilliant.

That really has hit that home.

Yes, I'll go with my much younger colleagues' answer to this.

And would you say you were more inspired by the election result, David, or by Roberto Di Matteo's incredible FA Cup final goal?

Because, as a not-quite goal-scoring midfielder yourself, that must have really hit home.

It did.

Yeah, bigger fan of Blair than I was of DiMatteo.

Retrospectively, I've completely changed that opinion.

I've loved Di Matteo more than

Blair.

Anyway, let's stop comparing Demateo and Blair.

You've gone for May 1997, and that is correct.

Excellent work.

You lead 5-2

as we go into the fifth question of the audio round, Charlie.

Question 5.

Who is this dubbed into Spanish?

Utili termos terminos como derby enfrentamos se aluchen o los grams entre tiendo alos haters.

Procir tremente en nayanada amistoso en este choke y en la lucha

I sense this might well be an easy one.

I think we all know who that one is, David Prince.

David, how's it Spanish?

Oh, it's BM.

That is.

That's as ridiculous as I sound normally.

That is amazing.

Oh, God.

Who wants to take the answer?

David Pratton.

David Pratton, April 2025, doing Michelin Webb.

Let's hear it.

To kick off the Easter weekend, which ironically falls on a weekend in Easter, we have all the action here on Sky Sports in the battle to stay in the championship, where we'll use terminologies such as Derby facing Lucid.

All the Rams entertain the Hatters, but there's certainly nothing friendly in this clash and the bid for survival.

And then on Monday, in another day and another day of endless football.

How long did it take to film?

Oh, it was about

three hours in in several different ways of looking at a camera and i got what the wonderful fellas that put it together said oh we've got that white yellow shirt for you to wear because it obviously the more ridiculous the better then walked out with this my own suit my own shoes on and he went brilliant the shoes of the suit brilliant i said these are mine both mine and i've worn them on telly before and he was like wow are you joking

that's incredible um do you know what i was really across the critical acclaim for this video.

When I first saw that it had happened, I feared for it, given the cynical nature of social media.

I wouldn't say it was universally applauded, but the people it shouldn't have impressed, it did impress.

It was brilliantly done.

All credit to you, David Prutton.

It was good fun.

It was really good fun.

And the fact that

we didn't get David Mitchell to tweet us, he got involved, didn't he?

But I mean, there was the odd comment saying...

Typical Sky Sports,

you've ruined something.

And also,

David Mitchell did this 15 years ago and better.

we know that's why we've done it.

Yeah.

Our work.

People are thick.

Don't worry.

Don't worry.

It's fine.

So are we by the looks of it because we trail 6-2 as we go into our round two.

Okay, so our audio round, and it does, I'm afraid, have an EFL flavour to it.

I was on Team Clichés when we played against the Sweeper Pod, and they put together the nerdiest sweeper pod questions of all time.

So I'm following in that ilk, and I thought that's what you're expecting of us.

So, no complaints.

And I think Dave is going to be, I think he's going to come to the fore here.

For question one, you are going to hear a sequence of the intro music of the last five terrestrial EFL highlights, Saturday night shows.

The last five

EFL terrestrial highlight shows.

You're going to hear the intro music for all five.

I just need the broadcasters, not the name of the show, just the broadcaster in the correct order.

It's a beautiful day.

The sky falls, you feel like it's a beautiful day.

David Walker

the floor is yours.

Well, we had one of the last quizzes, we had

the first one

in the last quiz, channel five, didn't we?

So that was okay.

So that was a good question.

I think we had that.

The comment, that was a commentator's quiz i think oh oh yes yes you're right so we've got that one so but uh question allie you want us to give you the broadcasters in order but those clips weren't in the right order is that correct that was not necessarily in chronological order you want them in order that it was played the in order of how it was played okay okay right channel five first then so channel five first then i think quest was the penultimate one is that right the jazzy one the one that the one that everyone watched, just to clarify.

Channel 5, BBC, ITV, Quest, ITV.

I thought you would.

You're five out of five.

Wow.

Channel 5's.

Channel 5's Football League Tonight was the first one.

BBC's iconic Football League show with Manish Bassin and Steve Clariginco.

And then ITV's current offering.

Then EFL on Quest, magnificent show that ran for three, four seasons.

And then the probably even more iconic Beautiful Day by U2, which must have been very expensive for them to use.

They've recycled that from

having strange things to do.

The premiership they couldn't be asked to pay for a new song.

I think they knew that they'd nailed the intro and they were like,

This is like when Football League Extra used the same theme tune as Euro 92.

You just can't do that, it's different levels.

But it is 6-3.

Let's have our second question, please.

Well done.

Ali, just before you go on, your description of ITV's current offering was said with all the passive-aggressive relish that I could wonder.

Nothing passive about it.

I don't think you, I personally don't, I personally don't think you need any sort of studio punditry or analysis to give any flavour or storytelling around what you're seeing.

I'm getting a little bit teasy here, Ali.

The dark forces.

George was sacked.

I resigned.

incredible.

I wanted to go.

It was fine.

For question two, Dave, if you could play the clip first.

It's disgraceful, to be perfectly honest.

There's no justification for that type of behaviour.

I've been in football now since I was 16, I'm 42.

Now I've never seen

anything like that.

It was scandalous.

That result must stand.

Otherwise,

the next game that we're 2-0 down, I'll put three subs on and bring eight off.

Have you seen Gary Mexican since the final whistles blown?

I wouldn't imagine Gary will be having a drink with me tonight, though, but not many managers do.

Not many managers do, says Neil Warnock, then the manager of Sheffield United.

That day was the day of the Battle of Bramwell Lane.

Oh, I thought you were going to ask us for that.

I know, yeah.

Annoying.

Afraid not.

Perhaps the most infamous Football League match of all time, being as it is the only match ever abandoned due to a shortage of players.

That's because three Sheffield United players were sent off and two came off injured subsequently, ending the match early.

Can you name any

of the five players that were either sent off or came off injured?

George Santos.

Yes.

That's all we need, apparently.

Can you name any of the other four players out of interest?

Was he, which was, was he...

Did he get sent off or was he injured?

He was the one with the horror tackle, the worst of the whole lot.

I think Jags came off injured.

I think he got Jags off.

Michael Brown?

Company man, Jags.

He'd have done it.

Michael Brown shook his head.

Brown's a good shout.

Yeah.

So George Santos put in a reducer on play called Andy Johnson.

They'd had some real beef from before where Johnson had fractured his eye socket with an elbow.

Early on in the game, completely unrelated to any beef, Simon Tracy, the Sheffield United Keeper, had been sent off for handling Outside the Fox, which feels very of its era.

And in the aftermath of Santos' horror tackle, Patrick Suffo head-butted

Derek McInnis, who was also somewhat culpable for a terrible short pass to his teammate Johnson that set him up for the tackle.

The players that came off injured were Rob Ullathorne and Neil Warnock's faithful terrier, Michael Brown.

We would have been a good backup option.

We did a special pod about this, about the Battle of Browning about six or seven years ago.

We managed to track down Patrick Suffo and we got him on the pod.

The Sheffield star wrote up his quotes.

And my favourite part is the article ends with a quote from our pod saying, When I look back at my career and the highlights, that game is right up there with winning the Olympics and playing in the World Cup.

Those are the moments to remember, and I can't speak about my career without mentioning that game.

So he's putting up there with playing in the World Cup, head-butting someone and being sent off, which is phenomenal.

Good old Patrick Sufo started his career at Barcelona B and ended up playing for Bedworth Liberal in 2011.

And played for Coventry City and Coventry United.

Incredible.

But not sporting Lisbon.

No, sadly not.

6-4.

Yeah, good start, guys.

Question three.

I want you to tell me what this goal is, what's happening here,

just from the raw audio.

I think that is Brentford against Doncaster the week before the Deanie.

Wow, I was going to say Deanie, but yeah, I was at that game.

I don't remember the sounds.

I know you.

You made that noise.

I think it's Marcello Trotter hitting the bar with his penalty, and then they go down the other end, and Doncaster score.

I can't remember who scores, Billy Painter crosses it for someone to score.

What's his name?

I mean, if it is Deanie, I'll

sound like too long a gap, doesn't it, for Deanie?

Yeah, and it's a little bit less.

There's fewer people in the ground, I think.

Yeah, this is spot on.

This is spot on.

It has to be.

Yeah, Marcello Trotter.

I don't think they'd have done Dean.

I thought Dean Initially, I was like, that'd be too obvious.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's go for Brentford Doncaster.

You are correct.

That was an amazing, amazing game where had Marcello Trotter scored that penalty, Brentford would have won automatic promotion.

Instead, he missed it.

Doncaster went down the other end, and the goal that they scored secured the title for them.

And I think had they lost that game, they might have dropped out of the top two altogether.

So it really was pretty significant.

Little bobble as well in the past, one though.

Yeah, it was James Coppinger who stuck it in at the back post.

That's that one.

6'5.

And for question four, we have to have.

We've had a bit of David Pratton.

I think we have to have a bit of Gary Weaver in here.

So this is a piece of Weaver commentary from this season, this championship season.

I'll be more specific.

I just want to know who are the two teams involved in this game.

I'm not up on my recent Weaver.

This is annoying.

And I was thinking any old Weaver, we'd take a chance.

Dortmund Ballager.

Yeah.

This rivalry is too big.

This rivalry means too much to just give up and walk away.

I'm still standing.

Could it be Cardiff?

I was going to say Swansea Swansea.

He definitely did that game this season.

I don't remember that specific commentary, but

it has to be a derby big enough to warrant even that much much weaverism.

Not that anything.

Spicy rivalry.

Yeah, it means too much.

The other derbies he would have commentated on would be the Sheffield Derby.

Sheffield United would definitely have been the second option here.

That game has been a bit of a dour affair quite often.

Cardiff Swansea was huge, like hugely dramatic this season, I think, in at least one of the games.

Or it was a battering.

So I think there was definitely definitely enough excitement in Cardiff Swansea, so I would definitely go with that.

All right, should we go with that?

Yeah.

Let's do it.

That is the correct answer.

Yes.

Cardiff Swansea, South Wales Derby.

I thought you might Uminar a bit more about whether it might be the Sheffield Derby, but no, you stuck to your guns and you're correct.

Several down, has he, Gary Weaver?

Great night for Gary Weaver on Tuesday.

Incredible night for Gary Weaver on Tuesday.

Getting credit for what he didn't say, which I think is always a lovely part of commentary analysis.

We actually got Gary Weaver on not the top 20 next week ahead of the playoff finals.

And I just not sure if I've got the balls to ask him about planting flags, but I think I have to.

Surely that's the first question.

100% ask him.

I think just say it in the intro is the way to go about it.

He did a game at Fulham and we had...

This is how good my memory is today.

Centre forward for Brighton.

Glen Murray.

Christ,

I I know Muzza really well.

It's not a good sign, is it?

Yeah, that wasn't one of our questions.

Christ, who is it?

Centre forward for Brighton.

It's Glenn Murray.

Shit.

And

he'd been a guest in the studio, and Weaves had done the commentary as ever, superbly.

Weaves slowly.

And

we were getting a lift in one car to

where the rest of the cars were parked.

And

Gary got chatting to Glenn.

and just like lots of little small talk and he's like, oh,

Glenn said, Weaves went, were you at the game today then?

I was like, it's the fucking commentator, mate.

What?

Because

in real life, he's a little bit more scouse, isn't he?

Yeah, nobody knows what he looks like.

This is the thing with commentators, you just don't know who they are.

Should be more famous, really.

Their faces are different.

Yeah, they're all odd looking.

Don't worry about that.

Well, that's what the clichés listeners used to think about you, Lot.

And I think some of them are horrified about what they've seen since you've got.

Horrified a bit much, I would say.

Anyway, six all.

This is a hell of a battle right now.

Probably wasn't intending for you guys to get all of the audio round correct, so let's see if you do or if you don't.

This is something a little bit different for which I don't apologise.

An unusual one in that I need your answer before we hear any audio, but the audio is important to the answer.

We've touched on some of the EFL's most memorable, most iconic moments here, whether it was Trotter and Doncaster, some of the goals that George talked about at the top of the show.

But I think comfortably its most famous moment was a goal scored on the 12th of May 2013.

David, do you know which goal I'm talking about?

Troy Dini scoring for Watford against Leicester City.

Now, in the same way that myself and Cliche's listeners, I'm sure, would like to think that we can recite every single word of your iconic intro music in the correct cadence, I couldn't turn down the opportunity to ask this as a quiz question.

You need to nominate one of your team to recite the famous commentary, Sky Commentary, from that game, starting with the moment that Nockart takes his penalty.

So I've got the script in front of me.

There are 61 words in total.

And I'll be following along.

And I will ultimately have the final say on whether it's point worthy.

Right, do you want to take this one, Charlie?

Yeah, I think I'll have a go.

In the voice, please.

Am I actually doing it?

Yes!

Yes!

Obviously.

Well, I thought the whole thing was because you'd think I'd know it too well, so you've got to get them to do it.

No, no, no.

This is all set up so that you can either have an incredible moment or one that lets everyone down a little bit.

But I'm conf I believe in you, put it that way, and I've set this whole thing up, fully manufactured, just so we can all hear this.

And it starts when?

It starts at the awarding of the penalty.

No, not, you don't need the replay and all that stuff.

It's as knockart steps up to take the penalty.

Jesus.

All right, let me just think about it for a how much.

How much is he going to give it, Charlie, do you reckon?

Yeah, I don't know.

Is he going to go Michael Owen or is he going to go Barry Davis?

I think once he gets into it.

So I'm going to start with, right?

Amunia saves.

And again, then there's a bit that I can't remember.

Because then Cassetti hoofs up in the air, but he doesn't talk about Cassetti because there's a replay, I think.

You should have it tattooed on you, man.

And we're going to get this wrong, obviously.

He doesn't talk about Anya either.

So it's.

Almunia saves.

And again.

And then it's Forrestieri.

And then it's here's Hog, and then it's Here's Dini.

I've got no idea what's in the middle.

I've got no idea what happens between Cassetti booting up in the air and Forrestieri getting the ball on the right wing.

Let's put Dave out of his misery.

Can you just give us a big Deanie just to the end?

Oh, I know the end bit, yeah.

Go on then.

Forestieri, here's Hog.

Deanie!

Do not scratch your eyes.

Great throatiness.

You really are witnessing the most remarkable thing.

It's almost like the final day.

That's the bit I know, but the bit in the middle, I've got no idea.

That's what we wanted.

That's all we wanted.

Ideal, yeah, no points, and it was really good.

You were, for some of that, you were just alongside it, if not quite there.

For some of it, I think in the immediate aftermath of the double Al Muna Save, I can kind of forgive you for just blacking out, but there is a portion that you've missed there.

Knockout takes Almunia saves.

Knockout follows in.

Almunia saves again.

Absolutely astonishing.

Now, here come Watford.

Forustieri.

Here's Hogg!

Dini!

Do not scratch your eyes.

You are really seeing the most extraordinary finish here.

It almost mirrors the final day.

With the very last kick of this playoff semi-final, Troy Dini wins it for Watford and sends them to Wembley.

Oh, we talked about Troy Dini.

Exactly to remember all of that.

That's harsh.

That's harsh.

I was writing that there was a big gap between.

He doesn't really describe the clearance or the touch or the run from Anya.

He goes from that moment to Forrest Yeri really quick.

Again,

after

it's almost mirroring the final day, it's just, yeah, panic.

In my defence, I spend, like you do, Adam, quite a lot of time with David Walker.

He's a very, very big Watford fan.

Not only that, and this is their greatest ever moment, not only that, he is a complete connoisseur of all things basically football media, whether that's commentary, whether that's radio.

And

you guys know every word that Richard Keys has ever said, and you can recite those without blinking.

So I figured that.

Because he was commentating on it, we'd all know it, sure.

I think there's a chance you might have done better there, Adam.

No, I absolutely wouldn't even come close.

I'll tell you what, if we ever get the England pod on for a quiz, I want you to repeat this question.

I want it to be for England versus Argentina in Geneva in 2005, please.

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Welcome back to the Football Cliches Quiz 19.

It's Football Cliches 6, not the top 20, 6.

Into the third and final round we go.

So for this third and final round, we will alternate questions to keep the tension up.

Not the top 20, your third and final round will be happy hunting grounds, of course.

You are going to ask for a difficulty level of one to three, and I will give you a combination of Premier League Club and Premier League Stadium.

You have to tell me who scored for that club, at that stadium, and in which season.

There will be no answers accepted from this season, 24-25.

It's too recent.

So, for question one, are you going to go with a difficulty level of one, two, or three?

Ali, you're our skipper.

Well, I don't think we're going to be that good at this.

Pratz has a horrendous memory and was playing in a lot of these seasons.

But not scoring in many of them.

It might be him.

And there's just too.

We've got too much EFL stuff in our heads to retain a lot of the old premise stuff.

But let's give it a go.

I think, should we try and get some confidence up with a level one to start with?

It was what it was.

Went for level three the whole way through last time.

It was Jonathan fucking Wilson.

Obviously.

He had to.

Well, let's.

Where does it leave us if we get a number one wrong?

That's my concern.

But let's go.

Let's see how we get on.

Right then.

You've gone for a level one.

and I can tell you, Ali Maxwell, you have got Chelsea at Whiteheart Lane.

Does this include the Tottenham Stadium?

No, it's Whiteheart Lane only.

Okay, it's on the same plot of land.

Yeah, it's not called that though, is it, George?

Come on,

six, six.

We're not fucking around now.

Go as far back as we want in the Premier League area.

All the way back to 1992-93.

Premier League.

Right.

If we go in a Lampard scoring for a Mourinho title winning side in 2034

or 5-6

3-4 was Ranieri first season of all the cash Invincibles

Yeah, I think it's good logic though.

I just wonder if I can't picture one can I picture a Drogber?

I feel like he used to score a lot in big games.

Mostly against Arsenal from what I remember.

Shall we go with Prutz's logic, go with a Lampard and a

George, you can choose 0405 or 0506?

Let's go for 0506.

You've gone for Frank Lampard 0506.

That season?

Tottenham 0, Chelsea 2.

Goal scorers for the blues that day.

Asia del Horno.

And Damian Duff.

If you'd gone for 0405 Frank Lampard was at the double for Chelsea at Whiteheart Lane

George George I can only do so much mate come on

shouldn't be given that responsibility okay not the top 20 what's your first question of round three please our questions in this round are who am I so you get three points if you correctly guess after one clue Two points if you guess correctly after two clues and one point if you guess correctly after replacement

Correct.

That's 17 points, Bob.

So the first question is:

who am I?

Right?

This is the first one.

First clue of the first question.

And presumably, there's an EFL flavor case.

Whatever, yeah.

Yeah.

And just to be absolutely clear,

you can, you know, to increase the jeopardy as requested for round three.

Once you decide to guess, that's the end if you get it wrong.

That's you've lost it.

Absolutely right.

Right.

Question one: Who am I?

I was a second division top scorer in 2002-2003 with 31 goals.

I was also club top scorer in a league season for four separate English clubs, but also won the Israeli Premier Division and scored 13 MLS goals.

Who am I?

That's incredible.

So third tier top scorer in 02-03, because this was before the championship branding.

Oh, would that have been Bobby Zamora?

I'm not committing, but didn't he scored loads for Brighton and he moved to Spurs for the 03-04 season.

He will have been.

Don't think he played in Israel, though.

Or MLS?

Don't think he played in MLS either.

It's a good shout, though, but it's.

Because remember, he scored loads of goals in the EFL.

Yeah.

But I don't think he was top scorer for four different clubs either.

Sorry, so

could you, sorry, Pratz, could you

read the clues again?

The whole thing.

Yeah, yeah.

I was the second division top scorer in 2002 2003 with 31 goals I was also club top scorer in a league season for four separate English clubs but also won the Israeli Premier Division and scored 13 MLS goals remember that is one of three clues for this particular player 203

31 goals in the third tier then was top scorer for four different teams in four different seasons then played in Israel and scored 13 in MLS not necessarily then but like we don't don't know when he played.

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, sure.

I'm going down the Israel route.

Not many players.

I mean, certainly there's no indication here that he's British necessarily.

Are there any Israeli

strikers?

I mean, there's Ronnie Rosenthal, but obviously he was a lot before then.

Yeah, he's gone.

I mean, yeah, there's a more or two, I think, but I obviously wouldn't go without

taking off the boxes.

Yakubu played in Israel, but didn't play in the the third tier in 02-03.

Should we just go for two points?

Would have scored a lot of goals if he had, though.

Astonishing first clue.

Fair play.

We'll take a second level, please.

Okay, okay.

I was born in Zambia, but made 59 caps for one of the home nations.

It's Rob Earnshaw.

Oh, Rob Earnshaw, is it?

Yeah, it's Rob Earnshaw.

He definitely played in MLS.

Don't remember the Israel thing, but yeah, he ticks all the scoring for loads of Chicago fans.

And he was born in Zambia and he played for Wales.

Let's go with that.

Robert Earnshaw.

The final answer, locked in.

It is indeed Rob Earnshaw.

That's too long.

Don't do that again, guys.

That's not what you're here for, mate.

Don't get all broadcast professional on us.

Someone's angling for an ITV game show, right?

Yeah, as you're saying, very Chris Tarrant.

Oh, wow, you'd be good at that.

Adam, specifically you, I reckon, but probably the other two as well.

You can tell us what the one-point clue was for Rob Earnshaw because it's the one that's it the matrix thing.

Of course it is.

Right.

Two points to us after that questions.

We lead eight six.

Now, question two in Happy Hunting Grounds for you.

Are you going to go for level one, two or three?

Do we have to try and draw a level?

Well, we don't have to yet, but they're going to pull away quite a bit.

Yeah, I feel like one doesn't really do much, does it?

No.

And I kind of draw something for either of these teams.

In many ways, their task hasn't changed.

Take a draw now.

Do we get, should we maybe be getting away goals, given how hard Happy Hunting Grounds is for an EFL podcast?

I think we should win on away goals if it's tight.

All right, fine, fine.

Right, two, please.

Right.

You're going for level two.

That is Blackburn Rovers at Whiteheart Lane again.

We did discuss

potentially doing a Happy Hunting Grounds EFL version from just the playoffs, but then we thought, fuck it, we can't be asked.

I hesitate to say this, but you also consider just making your questions related to fixtures that Pratz had played in in the Premier League.

We couldn't find enough of them.

That's almost too much of a shoe-in

as a put-down, isn't it?

You need a wide array of fixtures for this game, I'm afraid.

Yes,

is it too obvious just to go sheer in 94-95?

Where, like,

it's definitely not too too obvious to do that we really need some points bizarrely I mean and given the way that I performed obviously the most obvious isn't jumping out I was going Morton Gamp's person

and hoping for someone to chuck me in a year but I'm more than happy to go with Sheeran for that one I mean it's just the season when a Blackburn player scored the most goals and they scored a lot of goals and you know

I just um want to flag up that we just had Damian Duff scoring for Chelsea at Whiteheart Lane.

I just wonder whether that was a really happy hunting ground for Damian Duff.

It sort of suits him, sort of a counter-attacker, you know, gets makes a little outside to in run, finishes low, one-on-one.

Let's go for Alan Shearer, 94.95.

Alan Shearer, 94.95 is your answer.

Tottenham three.

Blackburn Rovers one.

Goalscorer for Blackburn, the champions of that season, just after half-time.

Tim Sherwood.

No.

Alan Shearer scored the season before at Whiteheart Lane, and he also scored a hat-trick the following season.

Oh my god,

guys, you fell into that trap again.

Okay, my brother had the match report pinned on his wall for that game.

So there we go.

Yeah.

So there we go.

Eight, six, it remains.

I also think on a previous quiz, I've had serious deja vu on that.

Yeah, exactly.

The same answer.

Don't rub it in.

It's fine.

Right, question two for us, please, not the top 20.

Yes, question two:

who am I?

Right.

Born in in Coventry in 1971, I made over 150 appearances for four separate Football League clubs, including over 350 for one club.

Right, that's it.

So, we're looking at someone around the turn of the millennium.

1971, born in Coventry.

How many appearances for four separate

150 appearances for four separate football league clubs, including over 350 for one club.

Wow,

that's a lot of appearances.

High-quality EFLman around the turn of the millennium.

Could be a keeper

with that many

around the turn of the millennium.

I quite like that.

Lee Camp.

Yeah.

Well, he would have been 30 at the time.

2019.

Yeah, that makes him a

20-ish around the turn of 10 years.

29 kind of in his in his pump.

So maybe late 90s

if you really want to.

I think we're going to need more real estate.

I think we do.

Let's not fuck around.

Yeah, we'll have the second layer of clueness, please.

Need a technical term for this, don't we?

The Royal Clueness.

I was the highest scoring defender in British history and scored a free kick with my last ever touch.

Oh, is that Stuart Pierce?

Oh, no, he wasn't born in.

So he

previously was the highest scoring defender in British football history.

Sorry, how was that pressed?

That is correct.

He was the highest scoring defender in British history since overtaken by James Tavernier.

Oh, is it

somethingy?

Thingy still.

The guy who played for Burnley and his manager now.

Andy Legg.

He took penalties.

Oh, Gary.

Alexander.

Graham Alexander.

Oh, Graham Alexander.

He was a.

So those 350 would have come for Burnley, right?

He also played for Preston a lot of times.

Don't know.

But just thinking age-wise,

he played until he was like 40, I think,

but he was there when they got promoted, right?

09-10, yeah.

Yeah, so that would have made him, what, 38, 37

when they got promoted.

So

it kind of works, right?

As long as he was really old at that point.

He scored shitloads of goals.

Don't really remember him scoring three kicks, I must say, but I like it.

If the age adds up, then we're basically halfway there.

Should we gamble?

As long as you think he was that old.

He definitely was.

He was 80.

Yeah, let's go.

Let's go for Graeme Alexander.

Graham Alexander.

Graham Alexander.

Graham Alexander, who would be a current EFL manager and won promotion this season, which would have been your third and final clue.

Absolutely correct, Chad Bogdan.

So much about the EFL, guys.

This is amazing.

He played.

He was a guest.

Right.

He played 159 games for Scunthorpe and then 150 games for Luton before he even went to Preston.

Remarkable.

Yeah, it is remarkable.

Also, watch the video of his free kick goal with his last touch because it's obviously an incredible moment, but it's such a shit-free kick.

You do wonder if the keeper just let it go.

Right, then it's 1060 cliches as we head into question three.

What difficulty level are you going to go for in Happy Hunting Grounds now?

One, two, or three?

Let's go three.

Come on.

Yeah, I think one answer.

I think the more niche, the better for us.

I've got to go three.

Okay, your level three is Norwich City

at Anfield.

Nice.

Ooh.

Feels Grant Halty off the bat.

Great answer already.

Did they score?

First game of the season when they came up the second time under Farka and they were good pookie they played lanfield away they played liverpool away for opening day

did they score steeperman friday friday night people getting very excited about billy gilmore

um the second time that's not stieperman is it that's no second time but it might be pookie

what year was that as well i mean obviously they came out down again that was um feel like i'm getting vibes of when smodic scored at man city at the start of this season it's like you know no one's expecting Pookie to beat the off-side trap and finish smartly, but that's what he does, you know?

That's Pookie all over.

I mean,

and what was the other one you said, Ali?

Halty.

We're not going as far as Holt.

Jeremy Goss, are we?

It just, again, feels like he could have.

When Liverpool were, when Liverpool were quite bad, it feels like Halty might have turned up with

something to prove, having worked his way up through divisions and sort of licking his lips at some of the overpaid prima donnas in the Liverpool backline and gone on the end of a cross at the backstick and just nodded it home past someone.

The fan fiction of it should get the points.

I mean, it's just such a compelling story.

We're trying everything here.

Charlie loves a bit of extra context, even if it is fictional.

My happy hunting ground's massive weakness is the years itself, though, and with Holt.

You know, we do need an answer, though.

Yeah.

What do you think?

Let's go with you.

Let's go with Pookie.

I'm happy with Pookie as a goal scorer.

Okay, so now we've got to work out the season.

So that's the season they came down the second time.

This is their third season back in championship.

They just finished their third.

So 24-25.

So this would be the 21-22.

21-22.

Pookie 21-22.

Timu Puki, 21-22.

That day, Liverpool, three,

Norwich City, one.

Goal scorer for the Canaries that day.

Milo Rishika.

No, mate, come on.

If you'd gone for 2019-20, a 4-1 defeat for Norwich City at Anfield.

Oh, no.

Cometh the hour, cometh a man-ish.

Timi Puki, 60 plus.

That's the one you were thinking of.

Afraid so.

You got the year completely wrong.

That was the first.

Yeah, that was the first game of that season.

What about Grant Holt?

Did he ever

Grant Holt scored for Norwich in a 1-1 draw in 2011-12?

No.

Did he actually?

Oh, yeah.

Amazing.

Jesus.

Right then.

Question three.

Who's the first one who went up?

That was the game.

First time, yeah.

Question three, please.

Top 20.

10-6, cliché's lead.

Question 3.

Who am I?

Right.

In 2011-2012, age 17, I broke into the first team of my hometown club.

I was the team's top scorer with 14 goals and also got six assists.

What was the season, sorry?

2011-2012.

Broke into his hometown team 11-12.

It's a bit before Deli Alley, I think.

But it's around that sort of.

Or maybe it's not too early for him.

So when did they beat him?

No, because

they beat United in

14-15.

So it's possible he'd been knocking around for a couple of years.

But no.

Oh, I see.

He was about 15 then.

Yeah, I think it's probably a little bit too early for him.

2011, 12, 17, 14, 14 goals for Deli Elliot in his debut season.

I don't.

That's a lot.

No.

I see that.

Yeah, I think it's too many.

And he's April, so I'm just thinking.

Let's get the second one anyway.

Let's move on.

Sorry, but he was born in April.

He was born in April.

So I'm just thinking, so he could have taken 17.

Okay.

Yeah, anyway, let's get, we don't know.

We're not going to confidently say from that.

So let's get the second.

Second club, after a move to a big Premier League club didn't work out, my permanent clubs have been Wigan, Stoke, and I'm now with a current League One playoff team.

League One playoff teams are Leyton Orient, Charlton, Stockport, and Wickham.

17-year-old striker.

Moving on to the same Premier League club.

And then moving to.

so we're safe to assume that one of those the big move the big oh so Wiggin and Stoke was after the big move

okay okay okay so after a move to a big Premier League club didn't work out oh my permanent clubs have been Wig and Stoke and I'm now with a current league one player is it Nick Powell

Nick Powell plays for

I don't know I didn't really I didn't wouldn't have wouldn't have been able to tell you that he was still playing but he ticks those boxes doesn't he really really does he really teach a crew, but he burst onto the scene as a 17-year-old, scored 14 goals, signed for Manchester United, didn't work out, definitely played for Stoke.

60% sure he played for Wigan?

Pretty sure he played for him.

I know.

And he's been knocking around somewhere for ages, but he plays in Stockport.

So

who are the playoff contenders, Dave?

Stockport, Leighton Orient, Charlton and Wickham.

Right.

I like Nick Powell here.

Just throwing it out there, I'm sure it's not him, but he fits some of the boxes.

Victor Moses, he's played for both Wigan and Stoke, hasn't he?

And he burst onto the scene as the teenager for a EFL club.

Yeah, he was well established by the time.

Not playing for one of the currents.

No,

he was in Chelsea's Europa League campaign 2012-13.

Go on, let's go for Powley.

Yeah, Nick Powell, please.

The answer to who am I question three

is indeed Nick Powell.

Oh, well done.

It's 12.

Final clue would have been my big move came with a £6 million transfer fee and the number 25 shirt previously worn by Antonio Valencia.

Oh, that one.

I think that would have nutshell.

I must admit, having put these questions together, I tried them out on George earlier and he got two points for all of them.

And I thought that meant they were the perfect level because you guys would be just the level below.

But you're too good.

Too good.

Hey, you never know what can happen.

There are two questions left each.

Right, it's

a nice cushion for clichés as we head into question four.

I think you've got to take a level three here, haven't you?

I think we're going to take a three.

Yeah.

Right.

Let's go three, lads.

Come on.

Right, then.

Your level three is Fulham at Villa Park.

No.

I've been in the filler away end at Craven Cottage.

That's annoying.

Have you?

Hmm.

Ah.

Working.

I don't know what to take over where I go, Pratz.

When was this?

Is he genuinely upset about that?

Upset and suspicious.

Okay.

Dempsey, give me some Dempsey yearly context.

Dempsey's a good shout.

I'm good with names.

I'm shit with years and where teams play that I've played for, but I can give you footballers' names.

That's all I've got.

Name a footballer.

Question four.

The spirit of his pod.

Don't do that.

Lightning round.

Give me three footballers.

So let's just chuck some names out there.

Radzinski, Saha.

Wow.

Those two.

And I think Dempsey is probably a safe shout.

Now, was he...

This is the year issue here.

I don't know how good you are with the years, Pratt.

I think Dempsey was around

in

11-12.

Oh, 9-10 was their crazy...

Good point.

Europa Leap.

Eurofa for Cup.

Yeah, okay, well, it makes sense if they were good that year.

Well, they must have been good the year before as well, though, in order to qualify.

Yes,

maybe they were better in the league of the year.

I can now guarantee you that whichever one of these two we don't pick, he'd have scored it.

So

let's be too clever.

I think you choose this time rather than me, because I've got the opposite, the golden touch.

We're going to go with Clint Deuce Dempsey

08-09.

Clint Dempsey, 0809.

I'm going to give you a potted history of Clint Dempsey's goal scoring record for Fulham at Phillip Park.

Oh no.

07-08

scored in a 2-1 defeat.

10-11 scored in a 2-2 draw.

08-09

did not score.

Oh my gosh.

We really should have brought in the half points for this one, but we haven't.

That's the main thing.

My goodness.

You got pretty unlucky on all of these questions.

All four.

It's just so, so harsh, but also quite funny.

Question four for us, please.

This is absolutely ruthless, isn't it?

I love it.

My God.

Maybe you should start watching a bit of the old top division, lads.

Here we go.

I have made the most championship appearances of any player since the start of the 2004-2005 season.

Just starting off, I mean, what team, Dave, has been...

a thing that's talked about and known?

Is there a team that's just been stuck in the championship in the last 20 years?

You're interested, if you're going for goalkeepers and defenders.

The current

longest servers are, I think,

QPR and Preston, maybe pushing it.

But

we're talking 20 years here, though.

I'm inclined to go to delve into our pure EFL 11 here

and pick

five stalwarts there.

And I think in goal, we had Lee Camp.

I think Lee Camp is right up there at the top.

We don't need to rub it in, though, do we?

We don't need to get three here.

So let's see.

Why not?

Yeah, I mean, well, should we get the next one and see?

I love the arrogance.

Like, guys, let's not guess three in case we get it right.

I know.

It's a worse look, if anything.

I mean, punish us if you want to punish us.

Let's play properly.

I mean,

I need your sign-off on this.

I can't just go it alone.

Lee Camp basically never really played in the Premier League.

i mean he never sort of established himself but he was in england onto him he was a really highly rated goalkeeper and everybody wanted him all the time so he would always have played

um so go on there go on then go for it you sure yeah why not i'm gonna go for goalkeeper lee camp then a player that's made the most championship appearances of any player since the start of the 2004-2005 season

The answer to this one, and I'm correct, George and I in delivering said right answer now, aren't I?

Off the back of potentially said right answer that our opposition have given us.

You said Lee Camp.

The answer is Albert Adoma.

But he overtook Lee Camp like in the last year.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

That's fine.

That's a moral victory for you, Adam.

Did obviously have Lee Camp in your head because I feel like every question.

Lee Camp?

Lee Camp.

Can it be Lee Camp?

It absolutely rattled me.

Do you know what the third clue was?

The third clue was: I have 19 caps for an African nation and age 37.

I'm currently taking part in the League Two playoffs.

And if he's still gone for Lee Camp, that would be absolutely freaking freaking.

Did Lee Camp play for an African nation?

He must have done.

He must have done that heritage, Sierra Leone.

Marley.

Yeah.

He's never got to the World Cup.

Right then.

Football cliches then

have seen this over the line, but let's complete formalities.

Not the top 20.

Your fifth question in Happy Hunting Grounds: do you want a level one, two, or three?

I think you've got to go for three again, haven't we?

Or do we always have to go?

The only thing I care about now is continuing our streak of somehow just about getting along.

I kind of find three easier than one.

Oh, yeah.

It is for sure.

Well, as in deciding with the more niche, you have to think about it rather than just, you know.

I back you for this one.

Thank you.

Come on.

It's Aston Villa at Goodison Park.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So one of...

I bet I know what you're thinking, Alex.

One of the most memorable games I can ever remember watching

was Everton, Aston Villa.

I reckon the final score was 3-2.

And there was a flood of drama at the end, which involved Ashley Young, son of Watford FC, famous son of Watford FC,

scoring, I think, like straight after either Villa had equalised or maybe Everton had equalised, and then he went and streaked clear and won it.

So we know it's Ashley Young, we know he's scoring at Goodison Park.

The next question is: I think, based on where I watched it, who I was with.

You need to be good at this bit.

We're in between,

we're in the like 06-08 era, which gives us two seasons to work with.

Here we go.

I would go with

07-08, Ashley Young, and Goodison Park.

What was the other season you were going to say?

What, 06-07 or 08-09?

What we've done so far is picking what we think is wrong.

That's a good point.

Does that mean maybe we should go?

Yeah, yeah, come on.

We have to go then for...

If I think it's 07-08, I think we have to go for 06-07.

George, I mean, you're saying that, George, when you've fucked it up every time.

So should we, this view or...

It's more just that

if we deliberately guess what you don't think, and then it's the one that you think, I just

don't know if I can live that.

But let's do that.

No, no, no, no.

This tallies with the way that you view football and betting on our betting show.

So let's not do anything like that.

Let's stick to our guns.

0708, Ashley Young, Aston Villa at Goodison.

You're going for Ashley Young 0708.

And you were going to go a season before 0607.

That would have been wrong.

Chris Sutton scored for Villa that day.

You could have gone the other way.

Chris Sutton

in 06-07.

But 07-08, Everton 2, Aston Villa 2.

Goalscorers for Villa that day.

Gabrielo Bonlahor

and John Carew.

Oh, for God.

At the double the following season.

I can't believe you've done this five times.

This is absolutely astonishing.

You've basically won the quiz.

That's absolutely amazing.

Someone's going to have to go back and work work out the half points for this and see if you've actually would have clawed it back.

So that, yeah, they would have got...

Oh, yeah, because they haven't all been level three.

If it was all level three's half points, that would be seven and a half.

It was one, two, three, three, three.

You would have got half a point,

then up to one and a half,

then up to three.

Three.

Then you would have been up to four and a half, and that would have got you.

That would have got you six points.

But let's not dwell on the formalities of this because it would have been 12-12 going into the final question if we'd done the half points.

We can't go back and re-record it now.

Charlie made that call, not me, actually.

Anyway, right.

Anyway, let's complete matters.

Not the top 20.

Give us our fifth and final question of the quiz, please.

Yeah, well, this is a bit of an England pod NTT20 crossover.

The England pod available on all pod platforms and includes David Walker with myself and George.

And this is the obvious question that combines the EFL, or rather,

outside of the Premier League and England.

According to Wikipedia, and I'm going to start it at 1970,

since then, 24 players have played for England while playing in the second or third tier.

You are going to get half a point for anyone that you name correctly.

There are 24 potential answers.

You can select a maximum of six.

Well, you select six answers, and you get half a point for each one.

You get right up to a maximum of three.

Okay, so I'm pretty sure Kieran Dyer did it

when he was at Ipswich, played under Kevin Keegan in about 99.

He played in like a 6-0-1 under Luxembourg or something like that.

So Kieran Dyer's one.

Steve Bull.

Yeah, I was about to say Steve Bull.

I'm a bit concerned he was actually third tier, but when he got called up, but he must have eventually he said second or third tier.

Oh, my apologies.

Steve Bullet is then.

So that's two.

Was Dave Nugent or John Macken?

I always get those two.

Who's the guy who scored the tap in from the yard?

He didn't play for English.

Dave Nugent.

Dave Nugent.

Dave Nugent, yeah.

Irish international John Macken.

Those two always didn't change my mind.

Dave Nugent to Iran.

He lost it again.

Yeah.

He was playing in the championship, wasn't he then when he came on and scored that goal from a yard?

Don't mind it.

I wouldn't be 100% sure.

Did he go to...

Did he was he up at Portsmouth by then?

Up at Portsmouth?

Up at Portsmouth.

Signed for Neil eh?

Up at the least.

What a job he's done up there at France Park.

That's what they say down in Plymouth.

There's fucking northerners in Portsmouth, exactly.

Cold up there in Portsmouth.

Jay Bothroyd.

Jay Bothroyd surely would have had to have been in the Premier League to be within a sniff because he was.

I think he was playing for somebody in the EFL.

Yeah, that's a good shout.

I interviewed him.

Cardiff?

I think he was playing for Cardiff in the EFL.

Okay.

Wow.

So that's three.

Have we got four?

Nugent, we're not sure.

Keep Nugent as a maybe.

There's some more familiar ones.

Richard Wright, he was definitely in squads.

I don't know if he would have played when he was at Ipswich.

He was kind of knocking around

in England against Malta.

Yeah.

Very, very

yes, just before Euro 2000.

And he joined Arsenal in 2001.

There you go.

Richard Wright.

But had they been technically promoted?

Oh, they had been promoted, but it depends.

Yes, they would have just won the playoffs.

Yeah.

So it depends.

Yeah, I guess he's a Premier League player by then.

That's

well.

Yeah, it's tricky.

The transferring of the shares doesn't happen until the Premier League AGM.

Let's try and get someone else so it's moot.

That would be a good little mini controversy.

Has any recent manager done it?

You know, so and like Henry Winter or someone's written a piece about how, look, how much great talent there is in the lower leagues, if only they'd look.

James Trafford hasn't played yet.

Yeah, I suppose, yeah, you're looking at yeah.

How many have we got?

Well, if we chuck in Wright and Nugent, we've got five.

So we do that.

Oh, no, we need one more.

Yeah,

we can go for a wildcard.

You can pretty much do whatever you want here.

Theo Walcott, was he Premier League?

He'd already joined Arsenal, yeah.

Jermaine Defoe when he went down

did he stay?

Did he hang around long enough?

Oh West Ham?

West Ham.

I think so.

Oh, I've got...

Oh, wait.

Sorry.

So, wait, this was when they were playing for them, not when they made their debut or anything.

Yeah, this could have been CAP 70.

Okay.

So Gaza, surely, when he was at Middlesbrough, he played in 97, 98 for England.

He must have done.

They got relegated that season.

No, they got relegated in 96, 97.

Oh, yeah, sorry.

No, they did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because they got to the finals in seven.

Oh, there you go, then.

Yeah, because Gazarin, like in that Italy 0-0 game.

And Merson as well.

And Merson.

Merson played for England while he was in the middle of the year.

Yeah, he was in the World Cup squad, yeah.

Fucking, how many did you want, lads?

Okay, so let's do Gazarin

Merson and take out Richard Wright.

So it's Kieran Dyer, Steve Bull, Jay Bothroyd, Paul Gascoigne, Paul Merson, and David Nugent.

We're sure about Bothroyd?

I am.

Okay, Steve Bull is not only correct, he is one of the two potential answers.

If the question had been who's represented England from the third tier since 1970, the other being former England under 21's manager and caretaker for the senior team, Peter Taylor, who represented England while playing for Palestine, obviously while playing for Wolves.

Kieran Dyer

is not correct.

By my reckoning, he had moved club away from Ipswich and to

Newcastle by the time he made his debut, which he did correctly identify as being against Luxembourg and England winning 6-0, but he'd moved that summer.

David Nugent is correct, was playing for Preston North End, scoring a lot of goals and has a 100% goal scoring record for England.

Jay Bothroyd is also correct.

Three years later, he was doing the business for Cardiff.

How good must Bothroyd have been playing for Cardiff to have made an English squad get a cap?

And indeed, Paul Gascoigne spends the second half of 97-98 at Middlesbrough in the first division and then plays in the three warm-up games for World Cup 1998 in late May.

So I think we will give you that.

And Paul Merson equally was ripping it up for Borough that season and also played even earlier in the season for England.

So I make it...

two and a half points with only Kieran Dyer being incorrect, which I think is pretty good going.

Just to not go through all of them, but the most recent was Sam Johnston in 2021

playing for West Brom, but also Wilfred Zahart in 2012 was playing for Palace.

And someone mentioned West Ham's relegation in a Germaine Defoe area.

Sort of right.

David James was still England keeper when they were relegated West Ham, so he was playing for England while they were in the first division.

And just two more were the Sunderland duo of Mickey Gray and Kevin Phillips in 99.

That would have been a good shout.

Anyway, a comprehensive end to a great quiz.

14.5 points to six.

Cliche's triumph.

Second win on the spin.

We're taking on all comers.

Thanks to you, not the top 20.

George Elek, fantastic work.

Cheers.

Thank you for having us.

Thanks to you, Ali Maxwell.

Incredibly stressful, but great fun.

Cheers to you, Pratts, if you're still with us.

Yes, I mean, that's like the definition of middle-aged lovemaking.

Incredibly stressful, but a lot of fun.

I'll look forward to it.

Trust me, lads.

Trust me.

And I can't get over the other runoff thing.

On that very note.

Great work, Charlie Eccleshare.

Thank you.

Well done, Dave.

Thanks.

Thanks to everyone for listening.

We'll be back on Tuesday.

See you then.

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