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I'm sitting here with someone who just put $100 on Diddy's books. It's Ben Soffer.
Oh my God. They're coming for you, okay? Whoever smelt it, dealt it.
It was him. him i put his hundred dollars he gave it to me i i had no idea i had no clue my god we're not talking about diddy but boy did that guy step in shit i've never met the man i just saw a clip of him have you seen the clip of him going on ellen where ellen has all of these kids on the show yeah a lot of kids with special needs and all of a sudden it's like and now here's diddy diddy walks out and all the kids are giving him hugs it aged so poorly i was watching i was like oh my god it's like hitler being with like 16 jewish kindergarten students should we restart at beginning of this here what'd you say did i start us off on a bad no no you start us on a great note we're one minute in we're talking about hitler god get over it we it's been only 80 years i know that's what everyone's thinking well Well, we'll never get over it.
No, well, literally never. I'm not over it.
Never. I'm not fucking over it.
You know what else I'm not over, Josh? Tell me. How good you look in that sweater.
Looking just snatched to the gods. We're here to make sure that your confidence, Josh, is sky high.
That's what we're here for, okay? You're looking amazing with that cross leg, the flexibility in your knee. What are you doing, knee exercises? God bless you.
This is just a shirt. It's by Aimly Andor, who we talked about before.
Whoa. I know.
I've won the shit out of this shirt, and they have not reached out to replenish me. Just kidding.
I've completely bought this retail and it kills me. It kills me.
Can I get a hookup? That's all I do this podcast for. Hookup, hookup, hookup.
Hookup, hookup, hookup. And yes, if you're going to send Josh a Amy D'Londor, Amy D'Londor, Amy D'Londor.
That sounds like the running back for the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, Aime Dion Dorr.
Oh, that's so good. Oh, that's so good.
Yeah, so if Aime Elyon Dorr can reach out and give us some free shit and also tell us how to pronounce the name of your damn brand. Dame brand.
Damn brand. So this is going to come out in mid-December.
So we're remiss. But I want to know because we're recording this Thanksgiving week.
On Thanksgiving Day, just give us a quick rundown of what your Thanksgiving day is going to look like. Because I just want to feel like I'm there with you because I miss you.
Okay, so here's what we're doing. Told you this in a recent episode in case you want to get the neurologist on your brain, Josh.
Okay. Cause you're forgetting.
Yeah, that's right. Baby, the tables have turned.
When did you talk about this? Not in the last year. You'll remember, you'll remember, as I say it, I think it was last week, Josh.
It was when we recorded our Thanksgiving episode. What I will be doing is

I will be going to Polo Bar. And you said that that was very, very sad that I was going to Polo Bar for dinner and that I was going to see my parents later in the day.
Remember? I did know that, but I'm talking about on a normal Thanksgiving when you're a normal person. Yeah, you're backtracking.
Not a spinster.

Sure, I'll give you my normal dream thing.

You. Thanksgiving when you're a normal person.
Backtracking. Not a spinster.
Sure, I'll give you my normal dream thing. You and Claudia are lucky that you are with child.
Because otherwise I'd be like, you two spinsters. We really got to be with a family.
Nope, we're with family 24-7, Josh. 24-7.
I get that. But yes, here's my dream Thanksgiving.
I wake up in the morning, I'm hosting, okay? I'm hosting. I want to cook.
I want to eat my food. I don't want to go and risk Aunt Nancy preparing a dry turkey, okay? You're coming over to my house.
We're going to start out with some beautiful pigs in a blanket. Okay.
We're going to start out with maybe a nice stuffing. We're going to start out with, I'm thinking of more appetizers.
We're going to go with a green bean casserole. We're going to go with some type of a sweet potato with marshmallow.
We're going to do all those, a cranberry. I love, I love a canned cranberry, Josh.
How do you feel about canned cranberry? I think it's the only cranberry.

You know the one that comes out like jelly? I think it's the only cranberry to cranberry. Good.
Okay. And I like listening to the cranberries.
Good. Yes.
By the way, that's another one. That could have been another good theme dinner.
The cranberries listening to the cranberries eating cranberries. I wish there was a man called Chicken Piccata.
Chicken Piccata is fantastic. And then, Josh, all I'm going to say is you come over to my house.
We're not doing turkey. No, we're doing duck.
We've spoken about this already. We have.
But I'm sorry. We're doing duck.
I know. And the mooshu with the pancakes and the whole thing remember i miss i maybe i i miscued you on all this because i wanted to know more about like are you watching football are there any games good question what i wanted to know the overall aesthetic not the food because you're right we have talked about that Okay.
Okay. The aesthetic.
I'm waking up in the morning and I want it to feel like holiday cheer. Are you watching the parade? We're actually going to the parade.
We're going to the parade this year. Somebody reached out to Claudia because she's so famous and said, we're going to send you to the parade.
We're going to give you VIP seats. We're going to send a car and we're going to watch the Thanksgiving Day Parade up close.
I cannot wait. Let me tell you, this is not a gift.
This is agony. You are your beautiful wife and God bless her.
She is going to be so over it so quickly. And I don't blame her because she's a beautiful baby, you know, incubator.

And she needs to be comfortable.

And it's going to be chilly.

And you're going to be like, oh, look, another marching band.

Totally.

And chilly is right.

New York has been flirting.

It's been 50.

It's been 60.

Not on Thanksgiving Day, Josh.

It's dipping.

And it's going to be horrible.

It's taking a nosedive.

So yeah, we'll be a little bit chilly.

The earmuffs and the sweater and the puffer and the gloves, etc.

But that's what we're doing.

And then, yeah, we'll go home.

We'll probably watch a little football, get ready for dinner, eat dinner.

And then the next day, we're seeing my parents for a lovely Thanksgiving themed Shabbos. That sounds wonderful.
I, you know, what are you doing? Tell me, tell me what O'Brien Day looks like. Do you play a little bit of tag football, a little flag football? That's the name, two hand touch.
Wow. We play in the turkey bowl.
There is a Turkey Bowl. It's held at the Catholic school in our neighborhood.
And everybody comes and all these guy, they're chasing after each other. These Gentiles and their games.
They're running around like it was Bethlehem circa 2000 BC and they uh so but you have to remember where I live in LA is like a lot of former NFL players or like college or like my brother-in-law who was a college football player and so I want no part of this game I do nothing I stand with the wives. I cream cheese the bagels because they get a big sack of bagels.
And I just stand out there and I go, yes, ladies, Salt Lake Housewives is the superior housewives. And while these big Gentile blokes are running around proving their manhood.
And then I'm sure I'll be on kid duty to like keep Max and Shy busy for like that time between noon and three, which is like the true dead zone, which is really, really, here's my Thanksgiving issue. I got to work out.
I have to, have to, have to work out because then I can really enjoy eating.

I can really take the brakes off and go full needle in the vein, like blackout on apple pie.

So I have to find time to hit a really, really hard workout, hour, minimum, crush it, a seven mile run maybe.

I might knock out eight miles before Thanksgiving. Like a chewing creatine type of workout.
One of those. Yeah.
I'm talking full body lifts. I'm talking deadlifts.
I'm talking squatting. I'm talking hurt my body.
Hurt it. Understood.
Hurt. And then, and then what I'll do is around from 12 to three, I'll make sure the kids are not in everyone's way and then at 3 i'm coming in and i go these kids are now everyone else's problem it's time for josh to eat and i'm i'm grazing i'm picking and then we you know we get into the meal and then there's the football.
I love it all. The smell of of the can, the the winter candles and so wonderful.
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I was recently, speaking of winter candles, I was recently in a HomeGoods, Josh. There's a HomeGoods.
There's a HomeGoods. I didn't even know.
I went to the one in the hamptons over the summer that was actually my first home goods it was a lovely home goods i went to an upper west side home goods how's that joey comastis is not good i personally thought it was filled with holiday cheer there was there was a peppermint section where you could get anything peppermppermint bark, peppermint candy canes. You could get peppermint dish towels that looked like.
It was themed. It was, if you wanted a Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer shaker for your beverages, if you wanted a Santa Claus vase, they were loaded.
And all I have to say is HomeGoods is a fantastic store. I loved every minute of being in there.
And there's something about it that really just brings out that holiday cheer, holiday cheer. Yeah.
I don't want to sound like I'm ever negative about HomeGoods because I love it. I've just heard that within cities, like a city target, like I don't want a city target.
I want a super target. I want one that takes like two square blocks of space.
Agreed. The targets, the Costco's, the Walmart's, all that in cities, especially New York City, no good.
Do you ever go to the Costco in Harlem? I don't because it doesn't. It's exactly what you just said.

It's just not it.

It's just not the same.

It's just not big enough.

That's right.

It's just not it.

But this HomeGoods, for whatever reason, has a lot of square footage.

It's multiple floors.

Nice.

I thought it was a great store, unlike what Joey Camasta, dear friend, said.

The greatest.

But yeah, the Target's in New York. It's just not a target.
It's not, you can't get lost in it. You're not like walking in with Max and fearing that you're never gonna see him again.
You're gonna see him. You'll find him.
It's not that big. Do you ever walk out of your apartment and go, I just don't wanna see anyone today and you don't have that choice? Yes, absolutely.
And actually, it's funny. The last couple of mornings I've been contemplating, do I change? Because every morning I wake up and I put in my mobile order for Starbucks and I walk to my Starbucks.
It's five blocks from my apartment. It's a nice north walk.
And overall, you get a nice 10 blocks, half a mile. It's a routine of mine every morning and i love it but i'm wearing whatever i like threw on i could be wearing shorts and flip-flops in the winter because i'm crazy yeah like this is just me like i'm not like dressed for the day capri joggers yes i could be wearing anything and i'm i'm running into people non-stop non-stop and these people, I can't even imagine what they think.
This is what I wear all day long. And then I remind myself that I certainly don't care what anybody thinks.
But absolutely, I do wake up sometimes and wish that I saw nobody that knew me. You're able to just get in your car.
Well, for me, even like I find this with basically most of Los Angeles, you can just walk pretty much anywhere except New York or like major, major cities. You can just get up and walk outside and like you'll see people and then there'll be like a main drag where people will be congregating because there's coffee shops or restaurants.
But most of the residential streets, you just walk down and no one's there. And it's kind of incredible.
It is. On the flip side, I was just in a fantastic city, Josh.
I've been to Charleston, South Carolina before, but I've never really spent time. I was just there.
And let me tell you, have you been to King Street in Charleston, South Carolina? I've never been to Charleston and and it's on my list i'm dying to go you you page and the kids would love it this place is amazing i loved it and quickly i just want to share my best bite of the week because it was that good okay i ate at a restaurant on king street called 167 raw and i am told that their oysters are out of this world. I didn't eat them.
I couldn't eat them. But I'm told that their raw bar is fantastic.
What I did eat, Josh, was three things outstanding. A tuna tataki, which was basically a seared tuna crusted with a nice wasabi aioli into a pastrami swordfish sandwich.
This was pastrami swordfish on a buttered roll with a nice sauce into an ahi tuna sandwich, which was just seared tuna, some wasabi aioli, some cabbage, and again, a buttered bun. Absolutely outstanding.
One, six, seven raw, out of this world. Now, are you allowed to eat butter and fish together? Is that allowable in your kashrut? It is.
In anybody's kashrut, it's allowable. In anybody's.
And mine, yes, is specific. But even in my specific one, in anybody's kashrut, butter and fish, no problem.
So dairy and fish, total green light. Dairy and fish, total green light.
For your version of kosher. For anybody's version of kosher.
Interesting. You can have dairy and fish.
So technically the filet of fish, oh baby, that is it. Give me back that filet of fish.
Give me that fish. Listen, every Orthodox Jewish kid I grew up with in the city, they were banging down fish filets like the Mashiach was coming home.
I mean, that was the prize. If you ate five of them, you could redeem a Mashiach.
What now? Tell me, though, was there a thought that the fries were cooked in beef tallow that was clearly not kosher? Was that ever a thought? One could absolutely think that way. Again, for my version of kosher, I don't know what I don't see.
Okay. I'm sure also when I go to the diner and I order a French onion soup, that that broth is beef broth, but could they have used vegetable broth? Maybe.
I didn't ask. They didn't tell me.
I don't know. It's so wild.

It's so hard for me to understand. It is wild.
It is wild. My the way that I conduct my life, Josh, is something that one day people will study.
It is it is interesting. And it's what works for me.
My wife is vegan and so she has small allowances. She has no issue with honey, which some vegans do not mess with honey.
It's an animal byproduct. So she doesn't mind a little honey, but that's really it.
And she'll ask, is this broth a veggie broth like because the idea of eating a chicken or a beef broth is so wildly out of her realm of like well then i'm not vegan if this is made from the bones of a cow but yeah real like strict kosher jews they wouldn't go to the restaurant absolutely they're probably they're not even eating in the restaurant. Right, because the plates.
If they're really strict, they're thinking to themselves, they're going to Hillstone, okay? No, they're not going to Hillstone. No, I'm saying they won't go to Hillstone because even if they could eat the fish, which is kosher, they know that on that same grill was probably a non-kosher piece of steak and there could be a contaminated piece of fish that they're getting.
But even the plates, the plates aren't safe. And the plates as well.
Correct. Correct.
What do you think of this, Olivia? And feel free to offend. I'm really amazed by it because I have never existed in a world where like for my own life, where I've had like dietary restrictions like that.
So I, I can't like imagine existing in the world comfortably and, and trying to follow everything that, you know, strictly religiously, it's, it's fascinating. Everything to me would be too difficult for me to lead what

I feel is a fulfilled life. And so where it all comes from, eating is my happy place.
And if I couldn't go to restaurants, that would make me sad. That said, does my rather lax pick and choose way of looking at it creates the opportunity for an even more relaxed version down the road.
Yes. Like once you like start peeling back layers, you're like, oh, you know, why don't I just peel another and peel another and peel another? It's definitely something that I struggle with for sure, but it helps me.
It helps me to feel connected by doing the best I can. That's what mine is.
That's fair. I mean, I too.
Is it fair? I think it's fair. I agree.
It's fair. I mean, obviously, like if you're Muslim, there's halal.
The Jews have kosher. I'm trying to think of if there's like, I guess the Catholics, right? They abstain from eating like during Lent.
Don't they do no meat? Isn't there like nine days of fun for the Catholics? There's some things. Buddhists don't eat meat at all.
Like do Buddhists not eat meat? Hindus don't eat cow. Yeah, no meat.
Like they're vegetarians. Right.
I think religions typically come with a set of diets, like strict religions come with a set of dietary laws that were put in place to keep people alive at a time where we didn't understand things. And I like to think to preserve like really smart animals.
I know not everybody agrees with that, but like not eat like somebody with a big brain, which is why I wouldn't want to eat octopus. And yeah, the main thing is not like people not getting sick.
Like you wouldn't eat like shellfish because you didn't know how to clean it. But now I don't know.
Like could one say that you could eat shellfish? Probably because we know how to clean it. We know how to not get sick from it.
Like, yeah, I don't know. Except my friend got food poisoning from a cockle in Spain.
What even is a cockle? Olivia? What is a cockle? I'm Googling it. I have no idea what a cockle is, but yeah, I don't know.
This whole experimenting. All I know is you don't want to have winter cockle.
That's for sure. No, you don't.
No, you don't. It's an edible marine bivalve mollusk.
Unnecessary. They're like the standard seashells you see at the beach.
Whatever lives inside of those. Mmm.
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Like Josh, as somebody who eats a nice fried calamar.

Yes.

You don't look at like, have you seen my octopus teacher? Well, it's not calamari is not octopus. It's squid.
Okay. You eat octopus? I love it.
Oh, do I love it? So let's go with that one. You see my octopus teacher and you see how this octopus formed a real heartfelt relationship with the scuba diver.
And you're not like- You're a hypocrite because it's every animal. Every animal is virtuous.
Those cows deserve better than to be eaten by you and me. Agreed that they deserve better, but there is no argument that you can make that says that cows are as smart or as aware of their reality and of pain as an octopus.
That's your rationale. I would say I understand the defense not as smart.
I could totally see that. But they're they have a soul.
They are a living creature. But there's a food chain and they feel like they certainly feel pain.
They absolutely feel pain, which is why we try to eliminate most of it when we kill them. But yes, I agree with you.
I don't think it's necessarily hypocrisy, but I'm simply pointing out that I think that certain animals that are really smart just shouldn't be eaten. That's my personal belief.
It doesn't mean you have to believe that. But that's how I choose to view pigs.
I have heard that they're very, very smart. And I've heard that when they're kept in these tiny pig pens that they end up getting a lot of anxiety.
But I know that you could also say that when a cow is just milked for a living and the teeth are about to fall off. I get it.
You're right. Look, what we will agree on is that big cow,

big anything is bad.

This big energy for the animals,

no good.

Listen, nothing could have

a more anxious lifestyle

than a chicken.

You've never eaten

a relaxed chicken, okay?

I've seen these chicken.

It's not cute.

It's like they all live

in studio apartments in New York.

It's horrible.

They're cooped up.

They're cooped up.

Look, my whole thing is

Thank you. it's not cute it's like they all live in studio apartments in new york it's horrible they're cooped up so they're cooped up look my my whole thing is i and i'm glad that i i don't have you know even though i've obviously had my issues with with food and being overweight thankfully like i don't really have a food addiction and i don't have a sex addiction, which are the two things that really are real that, that I personally would think are so challenging because you cannot abstain.
Right? Like I don't do anything that affects me from the neck up. That's it.
I drink some caffeine, but other than that, like, and that's it. Like when I swore off drugs and alcohol, it was complete.
And unless I'm having a surgery and it's necessary and prescribed from by a doctor. And even then I have to get honest between me and God, because it's like they sometimes prescribe you enough for, you know, 10 days of pain when the reality is after like day two, you're not really in pain anymore.
So, you know, I have to be really careful with that stuff.

So it's hard and no big surprise.

I'm an alcoholic. So I have a very like all or nothing attitude.

So I guess it's hard for me to rationalize like why one animal gets special treatment

as opposed to the other when it's just like either do it or don't.

But I hear you.

I understand when you say by doing the best that I can, it makes me feel more connected. I think that's fair.
I think that's realistic. And on the animal piece, I'm never going to not eat animals.
I love the way they taste. They're delicious.
Absolutely delicious. But I would love to one day be wealthy enough as I think you would as well.
Like it would be the absolute dream to be able to somehow live off of my own farm, like to not have to deal with these animals that are being mistreated, to not know what is really happening behind the scenes, the access to meat, the sort of inability to process how much the animal needed to go through to land on my plate. I do think that is a big problem.
And in the future, I would love to personally solve it for myself, where when I eat a big juicy steak, I'm not just thinking in gluttony, but I'm thinking an animal sacrificed their life so I could have this big juicy steak. Like, do you know what I'm saying? Like, there's, I would love to get to that place.
And that's why people actually, people find hunters because, and I think for the most part, like, I'm gonna preface this. There's two different types of hunters, but I think that the type of hunter that's going out there hunting for their food sorry to interrupt but when you say two types let's not even count big game hunters those people are pieces of shit pieces of shit okay good so put them 100 times over fuck that that type of person the person that's hunting for no reason the person that is hunters or poaching or awful i hope they rot.
Yes. The person that is going out and hunting for their dinner has a far better appreciation for the animal than we do.
Yeah. Because even though we're not killing them, we're eating them.
We're relying on somebody else doing our dirty work. And by the way, it's far less painless for a deer to be shot in the woods than it is for a deer to be spending eternity with its brothers and sisters only to be walked into some, not gas chamber, but you get my point.
It's not ideal. The idea of hunting for your food, being very aware of what you're doing, shooting with a purpose, eating with a purpose, cleaning with a purpose, I think is a far better way to eat meat.
And I wish I could do it. Dude, think about my father-in-law hunts with a bow because he don't think guns are fair.
He don't think it's fair. He doesn't think that if you're hundreds of yards away and that animal can't even smell you, they don't even have a shot to run away, right? Because you're so far away, they're not going to drift to your pheromones of your odors, of your odouben.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. You're literally blasting their head off with a 50 cow from a thousand yards away.
Not cool. With a bow, you have to be within 60 yards.
So that means you got the work that you have to put in and it's got to be a perfect shot, right? Because a true hunter would never risk a shot that wasn't an instant kill because then that animal is going

to suffer or it's just going to get hit and not die and run off with this injury. So you have to be so skilled to be able to get close.
And I don't know, we're not sponsored by Cabela's over here. This isn't Bass Pro brought to you by Bass Pro Shops, but it's pretty compelling.
No, but it takes like a really introspective person to think like hunting seems so barbaric, but it is so not barbaric in comparison to big meat. Big meat is barbaric.
Hunting is one for one, getting it, cleaning it, saving it, eating it. Like that process is so much more spiritual than the idea of just going and buying Purdue where they are killing a million animals a second while we sit here and wait for it to show up at the grocery store.
So I think that if you think hunting is barbaric, you're thinking of the wrong type of hunting. We're talking about hunting for food.
And if you're hunting for food, I actually think that the animal probably appreciates it more. And if everybody were to have done that, we'd kill a lot less animals and we'd eat a lot less meat.
Oh, and by the way, if you took down an elk and and stripped it down or a deer or something of that size and you stripped it down and froze all the meat that's enough meat for your a family of five for an entire one year so one elk fed your whole family for a year about there i mean depends on how much you're eating but it's hundreds of pounds of meat. Yeah.
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You know what? Screw the stories. Let's get to a speak pipe because we got some good ones and I want to make sure we listen to them.
OK, this first one is from Anonymous. What's up, morons? Major moron and toaster here.
My almost 36-year-old boyfriend's dad pays most of his bills. What are you, nuts? We've been together for over two years.
Olivia, this is not nice to say about Ethan. He helps pay his half with my mortgage and utilities and stuff like that.
And he's working on paying off some credit cards from when he was, quote, young and dumb.

But can I just get a guy's perspective on this?

He thinks I'm just not being patient

as far as getting his shit taken care of,

but I look at it like he needs a better job

because his currently can't afford his bills.

I would like to start a life with him,

and this just isn't cutting it.

Thanks.

This is tough. 36 is tough 36 this is tough 36 is tough it's the truth is i think he i think this boy needs a little bit of tough love sounds like he needs either tough love from you or tough love from his family it sounds like he's a really wonderful support system that he's kind of taken for granted right right? Like, and has kind of led him to this place where he knows that like, regardless of what credit card bills he runs up, somebody is always going to be there.
You're going to be there. Parents are going to be there.
Somebody is going to bail him out. And until he feels like there's nobody to bail out, why would he get another job? Why would he earn more money? Why would he be fearful?

He wouldn't be because he's living in comfort. So it takes a lot for you to sort of change the trajectory of this.
But my recommendation would be some tough love, which is like, look, I do love you. But if you don't if you don't change your ways and get a better job or whatever it is that you want him to do, I'm out.

Would that be a turnoff for you, Olivia?

Yeah, it would be.

Like, again, 36 is tough.

People, you know, figure their shit out in different times. But it just seems like a lack of accountability for his own lifestyle.

And I think he'd be a great guest on the financial audit show, if you've ever heard of that. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't want it.
Keep him away from me. Yeah.
What do you think, Josh? I mean, I've never had any, you know, I i've been supporting myself since i was 16 so i don't know what it is to have any kind of safety net but it's cool when i see like it's so different but like obviously when i see my wife and her family able to treat the family to uh you know a beautiful big vacation or you know like some nice gifts and stuff like that's lovely. And look, I know some couples like in their 40s where the parents can do it and they give the family like a thousand bucks a month.
Like the grandparents are happy to do it. They want to spend the money before they're gone.
And they know that maybe the family doesn't make as much and so that the kids can do extracurriculars and fun things. So I think there's a balance to it, but I think it's probably part of a bigger problem to your point, like that it would be imperative for him to like, kind of have a really come to Jesus moment about where he's at and what he's got to do going forward.
To clarify my comment, because you said something that I think is important, I'm not against parents or grandparents giving money to their kids. If you have it, that's awesome.
Yeah. Like, I'm not I'm not judging somebody taking extra money or presents or vacations or that's awesome.
If you can do it, do it. And I hope to be able to do it one day with my kids, grandkids, et cetera.
And when my parents take, like pay for dinner or something, like I'm so thankful, like beyond, but there's a difference to me between using the money to pay off a credit card bill, just like shows financial instability at 36 that isn't like a gift. That's right.
It's just like you're actually taking the money that they worked really hard for and wasting it because you don't know, like your life isn't together. And if you are going to have massive credit card bills, make sure it's on an American Express platinum.
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There's nothing like having crippling debt with your Capital One Venture Card. Next one is from Anonymous.
Hi, good guys. I just finished a little staycation with a guy I've been talking to.
We had a lot of fun. We stayed in a hotel for two nights, went to dinners, hung out, chit-chatted, watched movies.
Anyway, he is super respectful, like a little too respectful for me. When it came to like canoodling, like he wasn't really like, didn't want to initiate a lot, like didn't want to do anything like more than blunt, like was more so like taking it slow.
And I guess i'm used to guys that like are completely

disrespectful and don't take it slow is that normal like now that we're getting older like that we want to like slow down and be respectful of girls and like i don't know not like jump their bones all the time let me know not like does he like me does he not like me he did text had a good time. So we'll see.
I've never heard that expression. Jump your bones.
Yeah. That's a good one.
I didn't see this coming. I thought that she was just like playing coy.
Like, and they obviously like canoodled the whole time. I think it's a little bit strange to invite somebody on a staycation, stay in the same hotel room and not initiate the nasty.

Like, I think that's sort of like the purpose of it.

Like, if you wanted to take it slow, you don't get a hotel room with that person.

Like, hotel rooms are green light.

And I don't know.

Seems like maybe he's a little bit insecure.

Maybe he doesn't think that it's what you want.

Maybe he is getting some signals from you that you're not interested in.

He's just a lovely, hopefully listens to the good guys, gentle, good guy and is waiting for the signal from you. But if he organized a staycation in a hotel room, he 100 percent wanted to canoodle.

There's nothing like missionary at a day's in. Am I right, y'all?

Olivia?

Did you run into Jay Leno at that holiday? Oh, that's what happened to Jay Leno. He tried to have sex with her and the boyfriend beat the shit out of Jay Leno.
Clearly. Push him down a hill.
What do you think, Olivia? Yeah, I was just sitting back here trying to gather my thoughts.

And the only way that I could really see this in my mind's eye is like if he's the kind of guy that like, let's say he slept around with a bunch of girls and he can't make the distinction between like casual sex and a relationship.

And therefore he's like, maybe he really likes her and pumped the brakes on doing anything like too much.

I guess that's all that I could kind of surmise there.

I'll see requires the question. I'm interested to know.
And Olivia, please help inform me and the audience and good guys everywhere. over the last 10 years, hopefully we've seen that to her point or caller's point, some men, many men had a bad habit of being disrespectful and pushy and just putting people in uncomfortable situations and it was unacceptable.
Living in this new world, if you're trying to be a good guy and you don't ever want to come off sort of overdoing it in any way or making someone uncomfortable, is it incumbent on the woman to give more signals to kind of what would you say? I don't want to lead you. Yeah.
I think that it is like a bit of a dance, I'd say. the end of the day and i mean obviously when it comes to consent that's like a whole i mean that's a huge conversation and a huge part of it but assuming we're having oh but you know with both parties like being down i feel like i don't know i feel like if you're in that moment you can usually tell where it's headed or like you're dropping hints, et cetera.
Like you're sitting a little closer. You're brushing your hands together, you know, a little hand on the leg.
I don't know. But I so I don't know.
I feel like sometimes when the verbiage is placed to it, it can take you out of the moment a little bit. But I don't i i feel like there are several non-verbal or you know joking or not joking but you know what i mean like ways to kind of bring it up without it being like let's get to it now i guess like like booking a hotel room yeah exactly like like that to me is the ultimate green light yeah you agreed to sleep in a hotel room with him.
Like that's it. Yeah, but you got to feel out the chemistry in the room too, you know? Sure.
Like you got to take that into consideration. But with that being said, like, you know, if there's chemistry there, then like kind of figure it out.
I don't know. Like, I don't know why you didn't go for it.
Like, I remember when I was first starting the date, I asked a girl, I was like, can I kiss you? And she was like, well, that makes it weird. And I was like, no, I was like, gotcha.
Like to what you just said, Olivia, like sometimes verbalizing, it can take, it take you out of the moment. So I kind of like tried to be aware of signs and signals.
And worst case was kind of like, ah, you, maybe you went in and the person kind of said, no, thanks. And you were like, cool, I'm going to go drive off the Verrazano.
It actually coming full circle. Sounds like you're with a lovely gentleman who is respectful.
And while he may not be rushing to bag your bones, was that what it was? What was jump your bones? Bag your bones. Jump his murder.
While he's not in a rush to jump your bones, you know, maybe it's good because the second he jumps your bones, maybe all he's going to want to do is jump your bones. So maybe enjoy the time now.
But did you hear they did hook up? That's the part that confuses me. He just only, they only did it once over two nights, which is crazy.
Wait, wait, wait. Are you sure she used the word hook? Like, are you sure they didn't just mean make out? No, they did canoodle.
Should we listen again? Yeah. Roll the tape.
What? This whole time they had sex? Hi, good guys. More on here.
So I'm calling for advice on how to get out of the roommate phase. Oh, wait.
No, this is the wrong one. Hold on.
Here we go. One more.
Hi, good guys. I just finished a little staycation with a guy I've been talking to.
We had a lot of fun. We stayed in a hotel for two nights, went to dinners, hung out, chit-chatted, watched movies.
Anyway, he is super respectful, like a little too respectful for me. He, when it came to like canoodling, like he wasn't really like, didn't want to initiate a lot, like didn't want to do anything like more than once, like was more so like taking it.
Okay. Do once okay this changes everything sorry this changes already okay now i feel as though my advice was was wrong i think he might just not be that into you.

Like,

you're in a hotel.

You guys clearly sound like you were liquored up.

Booze hounds.

Enjoying your time.

I don't know.

Like, it's either that or like,

no, I think it's that.

I think he's just not that into you.

Maybe you have bad breath.

Oh my God, this poor girl.

This is not... 20 seconds ago, she was like, this guy is such a good guy.
I'm going to marry him. And now she has bad breath.
This speak pipe has been brought to you by Listerine. Oh my gosh.
Well, Listerine. As a friend of mine once said, sex should be a celebration of your love.
And if you guys aren't having sex, maybe there's nothing to celebrate. Whoa.
Whoa. That's good.
Holy crap. That was a...
No, that was profound as hell. Don't know it found as hell hell yeah and that guy had his hand on my thigh when he said that all right so now lube up josh lube up we'll do one more one more speak by by the way if you want to leave us a speak pipe get our Go to SpeakPipe.com slash good guys.
Keep it brief. Brevity is key.
Let's hear from, ooh, this is going to be a good one. I can feel it.
Let's hear from Sexy Marriage. Hi, Ben and Josh.
Ben, muzzle on the baby announcement. Josh, muzzle for everything.
Okay. I'm going to get to the point.
I am in my mid thirties and I am married to a man in his early fifties. And we have been together for 15 years and we have been married for 11 of those 15 blissful years.
And we have a very nice life. We're very blessed, like in a regular middle-class way, but we're very blessed.
We have children, We do all the normal stuff. We have a nice life.
I always thought if I married an older man, which I always knew I would, I always fancied an older gentleman that the sex would die off the older he got. And here's the thing.
It hasn't. He would have sex with me every day if I wanted to.
And probably won't come as a shock. I don't want to have sex every day.

I'm thinking, and he's obviously on a different page.

So here's my question.

What's normal for your average couple? And what's normal for your average couple

with the man in his 50s?

I want you to put yourselves into the 50-year-old mindset.

What are we thinking?

Am I being unreasonable?

Let me know, okay?

When I'm 50, I'm going to be on so much fucking TRT. It's going to be every hour.
Yeah, it could be. I was thinking that too, Josh.
He could be juicing, which is why he's so interested. But do I think that it's normal for a woman in her mid thirties being married 11 years and a guy in his mid fifties being married 11 years to have sex every single day.
No, but I think that it's really nice that he's so attracted to you. Like I would take that win.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Because sometimes like magic and fade that's, you should feel great about yourself. That said, you can say, honey, I'm a little sore.
Let's take a beat. And if he reacts in a way that isn't like, okay, no problem.
Maybe he's a sex addict and also a booze hound. Yeah.
I mean, apparently you were playing the long game hun and it didn't work out

because she she thought he'd be dead totally and it's interesting because my buddy once and granted he's only 38 and by this i mean my friend len he once asked his doctor about trt and all these things and his doctor said to him Well, are you, you know, do you have a real sexual attraction to your wife?

Like, are you, you know, do you have a real sexual attraction to your wife? Like, are you like, do you wake up? Do you have energy? How do you get through workouts? And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, totally attracted to my wife, you know, want to be with her as much as she'll allow me to be.
And he's like, I think your testosterone is fine. Now, granted, I know there's experts who are listening who all want us to go get checked for our hormones.
I get it. But I think there's that level of virility within reason just is probably why you're still attracted to your 50 something golden gilf of a husband that he's like, you know, like he wants to.
He's a dude still. He's got it coursing through his veins he hasn't given up yet sounds like he works out sounds like he eats right sounds like a great guy good for you he's got summer penis no I'm kidding yeah good for you honestly good for you I think these are far more positives than negatives there are far more positives than negatives from this story agreed agreed this episode's gonna get demonetized on youtube should we get to our what are you nuts yes yes we should would you like me to go first yes our what are you nuts moment of the week are our gripes with people places and things things big and small sticking in small sticking in our craw.
Ben, go for it. So I mentioned that I was recently in South Carolina.
I was there for the wonderful launch of Spritz Society with our friend Craig Conover. He was on the podcast.
We had a great time. We did a meet and greet, or we did two meet and greets, Josh.
One was at a liquor store, and often at these meet and greets, our lovely morons, our lovely toasters, they'll come and they will give me the occasional gift, right? And I want to note this one gift that I was given. I was given, she handed it to me.
She said, here's a hand-painted ornament, okay? It was a seashell to put on my Christmas tree. She said, here's a hand-painted ornament for you during the holiday season.
I painted Theo on it. What are you nuts? You're giving me a hand painted seashell ornament of my dead dog to put on the Christmas tree that I don't own.
You made me cry at the meet and greet. You were number three.
I don't own a Christmas tree. It's the least considerate gift I've ever gotten.
What are you nuts? You're a bad guy. No, I'm not.
Olivia, that's nuts, right? That's nuts. It's just so unfortunate.
An ornament of a dead pet. Are you crazy? Are you crazy? And also the seashell who put seashells on you push a seashell on your Christmas tree.
No, you'd be surprised. There are people out there.
I was surprised to receive a painting on a seashell of my dead dog that I'm supposed to put on my fictitious Christmas tree. Speaking of dead things, this reminds me of a speak pipe that we now have to listen to because you teed it up perfectly.
This is from Anonymous. Hey, good guys.
Huge moron slash toaster. Love you guys so much.
I have a what are you nuts for you that I think you guys are going to love. I recently went to one of my friends.
It was her grandmother who had passed away. First of all, I'm a fellow Jew myself, so I am not at all familiar with open caskets.
I don't think I've actually ever been to an open casket until this and it was interesting let me tell you so I arrive and I guess the grandmother loved Chick-fil-A and was a diehard Chick-fil-A fan and I guess chick-fil-a was special to her i'm not really sure

but around the cast or around you know the open casket was tables set up chick-fil-a meals

and like catered chick-fil-a like surround all like a perimeter surrounding the open casket

so that way when you went to get your chick-fil-a you paid your respects to granny at the same time

Thank you. perimeter surrounding the open casket.
So that way when you went to get your to play, you paid your respects

to Granny at the same time.

So that was pretty witty and that's to me

what he was like.

That is insanity. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. What are you nuts? That is so stupid.
So funny. I'm thankful that I thought that she was going to say that they put like a couple of chicken sandwiches in the casket.
Like in a tomb. I was going to say that's not going to age well.
Like a tomb so that she brings it up with her. That's not going to age well in there.
Oh, my God. Josh.
They use grandma as the sauce table. And she's naked.
I'll just grab some Polynesian. Love you, Grandma Irene.
Oh, my God. It's like one of those when you have like a sushi platter over a woman's body.
You just pull the Chick-fil-A sandwich right off a grandma's dead breast. Okay.
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