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production. I'm Josh Peck.
And I'm Ben Soffer. And we're the good guys.
There's a lot of guys out there. And we're the good ones.
Muzzle morons. Welcome back to the good guys podcast.
I'm sitting here with the wonderful wizard of Oz, Zempik. It's Ben Soren.
Oh, your best one yet. Oh my God.
Wicked Josh. I know I texted this to you last night.
I know. I get it.
You don't want to hear it. I get it.
No, I don't want to hear it. This was the movie of my lifetime.
I've never, ever, ever had a more transformational experience. I thought I was on drugs.
I thought I was on drugs. When Cynthia Erivo sings Defying Gravity in front of this big, gorgeous screen with honestly like illusions that made me feel like I was on mushrooms, I had an out of body experience.
I was smiling for an hour and a half after I left the theater.

And all I could think about is how much I hated the Barbie movie.

Preach on it, brother.

For whatever reason, I just like, not for whatever reason,

two huge movies, right?

Or perceived huge movies.

150 million in marketing.

I looked these up for Barbie.

160 million for Wicked. Okay.
Two huge movies that were pushed down our throat. And one of them was good.
Wicked was so fucking good. It was so good.
And it was the exact message that I think Barbie was trying to convey without shoving it down our throats to the point of me completely rejecting it, which is like, there's like a story of like fighting the man. That's the same thing with Wicked.
Oz, if you guys know anything about it, this is not a spoiler alert, okay? Wicked has been on Broadway for 40 years. This is not a spoiler alert.
Oz is just a guy. He pretends that he's this big wizard, all these powers.
He has no powers. He's a man behind the cloak and he's pulling all the levers and he needs the power of this beautiful female witch, Elphaba, to go in and perform all the magic that he can't.
And the story is about empowerment and the story is about doing what's right. And Wicked delivered on it in the most unbelievable, grandiose way.
The only thing that was missing was, Josh, you should have been in that movie. Oh, my God.
I should be in all movies all the time. This business is fucking asleep.
Did you even get the nod? Did you audition for Wicked? Did you know it was happening? No. Why not? There were two million people in that movie.
I could have been

dude, Ariana Grande could have fallen

in love with me and I could be in

a thruple right now. You could

have and I don't even know if Paige would

be upset. Like the

honestly the value of Ariana being

in your thruple. You could have been her

boyfriend, the mayor of Munchkinland.

You could have been the mayor of Munchkinland. Yes, I'm barely 5'11".
It was actually so sad. Like he is the mayor of Munchkinland for like all things considered is like a big loser in the movie.
And he goes up to her and he's like, I think you're so beautiful. I want to date you.
And she's like, actually, you see that handicapped woman over there? I think you should date her. Hell yeah.
And then you think to yourself, wow, these people are dating in real life and they feel like they're a real match. All that I'm going to say quickly on the handicapped quickly.
Okay, Josh. No, no, take a while to talk handicapped.
You're like, what is he going to say now? They cast a handicapped woman to play a handicapped role. And all I have to say is, bravo, learning from your mistakes.
Way to go, movies. Way to go, Wicked.
Probably the opportunity of a lifetime for her. And it was just wonderful to see.
Well, I am. I'm just blown away.
You've really sold it. I probably won't see it.
I mean, here's the interesting thing, right?

And I think you make a really good point about the Barbie movie, which was that, and shout

out the Barbie movie.

Love it, love it, love it, love it, love it.

But Bill Maher had said on his show, he's like, the reality is on the board of Mattel,

right?

Because that's a big scene in the movie where it's all men and Will Ferrell.

In reality, today in 2024, it's 50% men, 50% women, which I would say amazing, right? That should be all boards. And so I almost think that had Barbie come out in 2018, it would have been, its social commentary might have been slightly more prescient than when it did come out because some of that good work that needed to happen had already started.
Yeah, I think that that's an amazing point. And that's sort of the point I've been trying to make in less eloquent words.
Like Barbie was pushed as something and we didn't need it. Couldn't it have just been a movie about Barbies? It was about Barbie dolls.
Like not everything needs to be a social commentary. Wicked was so good that it was a non-social commentary that made me think it was a social commentary because the movie was that good.
It wasn't the agenda forced down my throat about the patriarchy. Like it was just a great movie.
Amazing. Josh, you have to see it.
I'll never say that about anything else. You don't have to watch Game of Thrones.
You don't have to see Harry Potter. I've seen Harry Potter.
Love Harry Potter. You don't have to watch Gilmore Girls.
None of this. Wicked, Josh.
I draw the fucking line on Gilmore Girls. You don't have to watch any episode in Runs of Reba.
No Reba. Just wicked.
Oh my God. It took my breath away.
Three times last night, Josh. I used the phrase bereft wrong.
I kept saying, Claudia. I kept saying, I am bereft.
She said, what are you grieving, Ben? That's not the right word. Your breathless.
The movie was so good, I'm mourning. I left the theater.
I said, I am bereft from that last scene. Can you imagine if you were a critic and it said on the poster, it's like someone died.
Wicked left me bereft. Ben Soffer.
Oh my God. Olivia, did you see Wicked? I have not seen Wicked yet, but I'm so excited too.
I'm so excited too. It's been the talk of The Office.
It fucking just exceeded expectations. It was so good.
And also like Cynthia Erivo, maybe I just wasn't onto her yet. Yeah.
Oh my God, does this woman have a voice. Like she took the great Adele Dazeem and made her look like she was nothing.
Adel Dazeem. And now the wickedly talented Adel Dazeem.
What do you think it was like in John Travolta's camp when that happened where the publicists were literally like, yes, is the car ready? Okay. Oh, God.

And now the wickedly talented Adele.

And they're like.

Did he say it?

Fuck.

Check Twitter.

Check Twitter, Donna.

But yeah, Cynthia Erivo.

I wasn't turned on.

Now I'm turned on.

I understand her.

I get it.

She is sick.

Sick.

She's a generational talent, like a gift from God, from the heavens.

Honestly, if you're not going to see the movie, just on the ride home, just put on Defying

Gravity, sung by her.

It's a seven minute version. It's unbelievable.
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Enjoy Robody today. You know, I think what really started bringing her to prominence was when she was on Broadway in The Color Purple.
Yes. And she sings the song, I'm Here.
And there's a clip of it on YouTube. And you need to watch it because about every 90 seconds of a four minute song, the audience starts going insane.
Like they start standing in the aislesles it's so moving i mean she's she's beyond and ariana is beyond so so talented and shout out to ariana who is she has i looked up this morning you know how many instagram followers ariana grande has is she like the third most in the world like behind ronaldo she's 380 million followers. It's nuts.
380 million. Wicked is known to be, per my great source, my wife, known to be her favorite show.
All she wanted was Elphaba because Elphaba is the star, right? All that she wanted was Elphaba. And she gets put in this supporting role as Glenda.
And when I tell you, she did it unbelievably. But to be such an incredible actress, like incredible talent, so famous and step into that supporting role the way that she is, she was amazing.
I give her all the credit in the world. I've known her since she was a teenager.
I was basically a teenager. We grew up together in some respects.
And I just remember that her and her mom would invite us over to parties at the house and whatnot. And I was there with my wife, who was my girlfriend at the time.
And my wife always loves telling the story. She's like, I'm walking to try to find the bathroom and I'm hearing this beautiful belting singing voice.
And she's like, I walk into the bathroom, and Ariana's in there alone doing runs and going, not having the runs, doing runs. And Ariana goes, sorry, there's just really great acoustics in here and my wife goes you can sing forever like you never have to stop so i didn't even think about that so you you know ariana grande i mean if i saw her yes yes but can i call her a new no but you know her well enough that if you guys are two ships passing, perhaps you stop a quick hug and you move on.

I would say so.

Sure.

And so what is Ariana Grande like? Is she awesome? Is she fun? Is she funny? Does she live up to the hype? I would say yes to all those things. And I think the one X factor to people like her who I don't know if I've ever met anyone like this.
Cause I've met people once they popped and became famous. I don't think I've known people before the moment.
Cause obviously I knew her when she was on Nickelodeon, but she wasn't the global superstar that she is now quite yet. But when you heard her saying, you just went, Oh, you're not for this world.
Like you don't belong amongst us civilians. You need to rise to a higher level.
So when she became famous, it was no surprise. It's so interesting that very clearly the difference between a star and a superstar when it comes to child actors, Nickelodeon, Disney is singing.
That is the difference. If you have those pipes, like a Britney Spears or a Sabrina Carpenter or a like the list goes on.
If you have that voice, you're a superstar. Right.
Ariana. Ariana.
So, yeah, I mean, Miley's got one of the coolest fucking voices of a generation. Miley.
Yeah, the list goes on.

And I'm just saying, Josh, you have one hell of a voice.

One hell of a voice.

God bless you.

And not enough people have heard it.

And look, there are the male superstars.

Me, David Henry, Kenan Thompson.

No, I'm kidding.

It's you and Kenan.

That's the only two I'm giving you to.

It's not even me compared to Kenan. That's, you know, how long has he been on SNL? 50 years? By the way, it's you and Kenan.
That's the only two I'm giving you to. It's not even me compared to Kenan.
That's, you know, how long has he been on SNL? 50 years? By the way, it's you. I know you don't want to hear it.
You're the most famous person to come out of child stardom. Kenan just happened to fall into SNL and you fell into the good guys.
The good guys! This is better. This is bigger.
What's SNL? My game plan, my final life plan is this podcast.

And that's it.

Me too.

I'm doing this forever.

We need Keenan on though.

We should have him on to ask him like, what's SNL like?

I wonder, I bet you it's terrible.

It's terrible.

I know what it's like.

It can't be fun.

You don't want that.

So stressful. I'll tell you how it's not fun if you're married with kids and don't do cocaine.
Not fun. Yeah.
There you go. There you go.
And everybody's always trying to get you to divorce your wife and do cocaine. I mean, basically, right, you perform Saturday night.
Then you have that famous post SNL party that Lauren Michaels is at for, you know, till five in the morning, right? So you recover on Sunday and Monday morning, you show up and you are there and you are at a conference table with the host for the following week and you're pitching your ideas. And then they pick, I don't know, 20, 30 sketches.
And now, you first of all if you don't get picked yikes right but if you're if your sketch does get picked now you gotta write it right and now you have to like spend tuesday wednesday thursday actually writing this thing and practicing it and hoping it's good but by the way now you've got an art department set set design, props, costumes, all banging down your door.

I mean, like, we have four days. What's the script? Like, do I got to go get a pilgrim outfit? Do I have to go buy, like, fake wings? Are we going to rent out a McDonald's? Like, what are we doing? We need to build the set.
We've got, like, three days. and then every day throughout the week it just gets later and harder till saturday when you're

there doing like dress rehearsal all day. And then you, you know, and then you go on at 1130 on Saturday night and, and then people like us talk shit about you.
And then you, and then you need to match it with whoever is the host. Like that part, like I always think about that.
People are like, oh, this week's SNL stunk. Maybe it was really hard to work with the host, but you never know what you're going to get.
Like sometimes the host is super talented and sometimes the host is like a bag of bones and you don't know what to do with them. Like it's just, yeah, it's not a job that I envy whatsoever.
It's definitely a job that if you want to be famous,

if you hit it right,

you can definitely become famous because of the show.

But I haven't really seen, what do you do after SNL?

Like, I guess, like currently.

Sure, in the past, you're on SNL.

It can propel you to be a movie star.

Today, it would seem like,

what does it propel you into?

Late night for one person, Seth Meyers? Like, I don't know. What did you say? Jimmy Fallon.
Jimmy Fallon. So yeah, late night.
Late night is what it, but there's two of those jobs. Like, what is Colin Jost? Is he just going to be, if he's going to be late night, is that what he does after this? Colin will probably be late night because he's another, I think, Seth.
I mean, Seth is singular, but he's brilliant and he's handsome. Colin? He's a head writer.
Yeah. I think Colin Jost is hilarious.
He's great. Yeah.
Michael Che is brilliant. And obviously they've had, you know, some big stars from Kristen Wiig to I'm sure other people, but like who of the last 10 years has really popped? I'm trying to, I don't know.
I don't watch it. Was Molly Shannon? Well, that's midnight.
That's mid-aughts. But yeah, Molly Shannon, superstar.
I just think of that like group of, honestly, they're really, really good at turning female comics into TV stars. Like there's a lot, like the Tina Fey's, like, and I'm trying to think of like current ones, but there's a lot, there's a lot of mean look in the 90s it was a factory it was chris rock adam sandler chris farley david spade i think david alan greer was he on it or he might have been in living color you know mass and then obviously in the 70s it was chevy chase and john belushi and dan akroyd and gilda radner and all these people., but, you know, it's just, I think you have to, oh, Bill Hader.

But you just have to really, I think, Kate McKinnon,

but you have to just be in love with the idea of SNL.

And it's, I don't know, it's sexiness.

Me, I'm more of a mad TV guy.

No, I'm kidding.

Like, yeah, I don't know what, I don't know. I don't know.
It's sexiness. Me, I'm more of a mad TV guy.
No, I'm kidding. Like, yeah, I don't know what, I don't know.
I don't know. So let's get Keenan on the show.
We'll ask him his opinions. We'll go from there.
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I'm so confused. Are people fucking outside? I don't know.
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Turn on a fire. This is not a good excuse.
Like unless you're like having sex behind a shop right in 34 degrees, which by the way, sounds amazing. Yeah, it sounds great.
And then you raid the garbage for what they threw out of the salad bar. Is that your hand or the raccoon's? Mmm, macaroni salad.
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Well, the top fast food restaurant where men take women on a first date has been revealed. That's right.
More and more Americans are complaining about dating amid inflation. So what's a cash strap singleton to do? It turns out that the age of casual dating is finding itself in casual dining.
Datingnews.com surveyed 3000 American singles and found the number one answer was Chick-fil-A with over 16% of daters choosing the chicken joint as their go-to fast food date spot this is no good josh this is no good why a first date at chick-fil-a you couldn't even spring for like somewhere you can sit with a waiter and applebee's a chili's for a a TGI Fridays if they're still around.

Like something with a waiter or a waitress, Chick-fil-A.

This is no good, guys.

This is no good.

But Chick-fil-A is like, it's elevated.

No, no.

There's no waiter or waitress.

That's not a date.

He just got her a chicken sandwich and told her to take a hike.

This is no good.

This is why divorce rates are skyrocketing. These men aren't considerate.

Thank you. He just got her a chicken sandwich and told her to take a hike.
This is no good. This is why divorce rates are skyrocketing.

These men aren't considerate.

Take this chicken sandwich and head for the door.

Why don't you ask her to park your car?

And yet a first date could happen at a coffee shop at a similar price point.

Absolutely.

You bring up a wonderful point. I think Starbucks is a far better first date than a Chick-fil-A.
Interesting. Far better.
A Pete's. A smaller guy, a Pete's.
Maybe, what's another one? I don't know. La Cologne? Yeah.
Maybe take him to a Dutch Bros. Sure.
Why not? Yes. But there is something different between saying, hey, do you want to meet up for a coffee i'd love to get to know you at starbucks and do you want to meet up for a coffee i'd love to get to know you at a duncan like there's something different about duncan totally no don't take her on a date to duncan don't do it no that's good no you want to hit a double D and get to know each other? It's funny that you brought up Starbucks.
I was thinking it this morning. Every morning, by the way, I do my mobile order.
I don't know if everybody's onto this, but the mobile order on Starbucks, unbelievable. The whole app.
The whole app is fabulous. It's fabulous.
It's the greatest consumer experience ever. You place it.
It's there. Once you get there, it's ready.
No question. No questions asked.
It's unbelievable. That said, I really hope these baristas, Josh, are being paid more because, oh my God, is it a factory because of mobile orders? I don't know about you.
I get in there and these baristas are sweating. They're making three coffees at a time.
They are, the volume with these mobile orders is through the roof. So all I gotta say, I hope that you're tipping your baristas because it's not, it's not, you're not thinking to tip your barista.
You're tipping, thinking to tip the cashier. We're no longer interfacing with a cashier because it's all mobile.
I like to give my nice barista a five every once in a while. It's the same guy.
His name is Roy. Say thank you because these people, they're working overtime.
That's a good move. I had a buddy who worked at Starbucks.
He said they pull the tips, you know, but you definitely want to give a little something directly to your mans. But do you get tips, Josh, anymore? You don't get tips through mobile.
Oh, the mobile tipping. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they have to give you.
I tip through mobile. I always give $2.
I'm $2 peck. Oh, am I accidentally tipping on mobile and I don't realize that? Do both.
The truth of the matter is Starbucks certainly isn't paying anyone a living wage. Wow.
This went from the Starbucks execs being like, we're going to sponsor this show to run, run, run, run, run away. No, I'm in.
Oh, you can leave a tip. I just never do.
Yeah, dude. By the way, so Starbucks, one quick thought.
Put a suggested tip amount in there for me. Okay.
I can always remove it, but I didn't even realize. Okay? So put in a nice nickel.
Just put in. I gave you a shiny nickel.
I shined it with my big nose. Throw in a half dollar.
A John F. Kennedy half dollar.
Do you do the fun games where you can win points on your Starbucks app? Ooh, I hope I didn't flash my pin number. No, I didn't know that.
By the way, I don't spend that much time. There are gains in the app.

No.

So once a week, it'll be like, hey, if you go the next three days in a row, you can get

100 extra stars.

And as we all know, 200 stars gets a free drink.

What?

You're kidding.

Do you have stars in here and I don't even know it?

On your birthday?

No, I just spend money, Josh.

I don't look at rewards.

Oh, my God. I have a.
Oh, I have a lot. I have 1, know it.
You get a free drink on your birthday? No, I just spend money, Josh. I don't look at rewards.
Oh my God, I have a lot.

I have 1,400 stars.

No.

Yeah.

I've never had that many.

You're not cashing them in?

Look, I've never cashed them in.

I didn't even know.

Dude, you got the gold shimmer.

That means you can get merchandise.

Oh my God.

Oh my God, you can get a French press.

You could be getting tumblers. You could have tumblers up the yin my god you can get a french press you could be getting tumblers i can get everything oh my god oh my god five breakfast sandwiches and two croissants wait i'm literally i'm okay i'm starbucks royalty i had no idea i had no idea oh 59 of them expire on december 1st start unloading this is important dude gonna waste stars in this economy in biden's america no i'm kidding oh my god okay well good to know i'm so happy we had this conversation i'm starbucks royalty and And yeah, that's it.
I'm going to start redeeming for t-shirts. Hey, did you know that fans are shocked over Lizzo's weight loss as singer twins with lookalike mom Sherry in matching braids? Lizzo shocked fans with her dramatic weight loss during the night out with her lookalike mom, Sherry Johnson Jefferson.
The about damn time songstress took to Instagram Friday to share photos and a video of herself riding in the backseat of an SUV. She was wearing an off the shoulder crop top and denim shorts for the outing, styling her hair in milkmaid braids.
She does look incredible. I'm going to take a peek.
Nothing quite like taking a look at a woman and then objectifying her on your podcast. Let's take a look.
I mean, we're just talking about an article on the New York Post. We're celebrating her.
Which one? This recent picture of Lizzo taking a selfie? In a car. In a car.
Oh, yeah, I see. Oh, okay, Josh.
Come on. Oh, here it comes, Olivia.
A mansplain this one, you part of the problem, Peter.

Come on.

What an unbelievable angle.

That is a top down.

I would literally like this.

I would look half a pound.

You are.

Let me see.

Hold on.

How skinny do you look?

Stick out your neck.

You look unbelievable.

You know I have good neck regardless.

Yeah, but I'm just saying, Olivia, you agree angles are everything? Angles are everything. Angles are everything.
I love the movements of people who are like posting their, you know, self or like their picture on Instagram where it's posed perfectly in a bikini, whatever. And then next to it, you have the one that's unposed.
And it looks like there's like a 50 pound difference. It's all in the angle.
It's all in the angle. It's all in the angle, Josh.
That said, Lizzo, you look great. Except I will say pretty people like models don't have bad angles.
Like, have you ever been around an actually attractive person? Like a real, like a professionally attractive? They're like, they look good from all angles. That is true.
But if you still, if you took a picture of them from below, you could make them look significantly worse. Like you'll, you'll be in, I don't know, you and Paige will be at the mall, whatever you guys do, maybe shopping, sniffing a couple of candles, picking up an Auntie Anne's.
Cinnabon. You page Max and Shy.
You want somebody to take a family photo of you. You get that person.
He's either doing this up top, he's doing this in the middle, or he's doing this below, thinking he's doing something artsy. And if he takes that below photo, you're unhappy.
That's all. Okay.
Okay. That's all.
That's all. Speaking of Auntie Anne's.
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Wetzel's is fantastic as well. There's going to be no Wetzel's slander for me.
You take a beautiful nugget, a beautiful pretzel nugget, and you dunk it in some cheese. Or if you're feeling sweet, you put it in a little bit of cinnamon sugar.
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you my routine with my son.
My son takes parkour lessons in an abandoned shopping mall. And we tried baseball and it's basically in this mall and it's like a gigantic gymnastics place and all they have open on the first floor is one cart with a wetzel pretzel i was like fine one day i didn't get a water before parkour there's water breaks it's very exhausting and and i was like why don't i get a nice wetzel pretzel i haven't it in forever.
So they take it out. They baste it with the bun and the flaky sea salt.
Let me tell you, me and my son looked at each other by the end of this thing. We're like, oh, my God, this is delish.
Now, every water break during the hour, my son's running up, shoving Wetzel in his mouth, using his big buttery hands to try to scale the walls i'm like you're an embarrassment son but it's so oh man wetzel's is delish now we do it ever i have one once a week oh so good i know absolutely phenomenal do you think i should go to voice lessons to To really just hone in on your singing? Thank you for saying that. Well, I would like to do that separately.
This is actual. I have a fear.
And I'm going to share it with the crowd. And if anyone who majors in voice or is a speech pathologist, what have you, listening, turn up the volume.
DM old Uncle Josh. I have a very specific voice i know i do i sound like a 12 year old with emphysema kind of high-pitched forever when i would call for chinese takeout they'd go ma'am it'll be 94 and it'll be there within 20 minutes but i worry or I've, and I had an acting teacher tell me this, a very, very famous acting teacher who's like coached all the biggest actors in the world.
And he suggested, he's like, you should go for vocal lessons for your speaking voice. Because he's like, I think you're straining when you talk.
And that this voice that you've created is kind of like this amalgamate of your you have a higher voice but it's like some anxiety some people pleasing some showmanship and if you actually relax you talk like this no in the next episode mazel morons Welcome back to an episode of The Good Guys. So should I work on, I don't know.
This voice is a lot of presentation. I think you should do whatever you want.
I personally think that your voice is great. I don't think that you sound like a woman.
I think that I also thought at one point that I sounded like a woman. I don't think I currently sound like a woman.
I definitely know that I have a distinct voice. I think that you have a distinct voice.
I think that when I think of acting teachers, take this with a grain of salt. I understand that's the acting teacher for the stars, right? But there are two things to consider with an acting teacher.
The first is like anybody else, like any other consultant, all he wants to do is fix you. Even if there's no problem to fix, he makes money by fixing Josh, by convincing Josh he has a problem and then fixing Josh.
That's the first thing. The second thing is you're only an acting teacher if he couldn't act.
OK, so like I just wouldn't put too much stock in the random opinion of even if they're in

very high regard.

But would I would let me ask, would you say that about Bill Belichick or Pat Riley or

Phil Jackson, some of the greatest coaches that have ever existed?

I would say that to them when it comes to telling a shooter, because this just happened. Think about it in basketball.
The Knicks, Tom Thibodeau, unbelievable coach, coach of the Knicks. We traded for a guy named Mikkel Bridges.
Mikkel Bridges last year shot almost 50% from three. Incredible shot.
We signed him for an ungodly amount of money. And then the Knicks coaching staff changed his shot.
His shot is completely different. It started in the middle.
Now it starts up top. It's ugly.
He's having his worst shooting of the season. Sorry, though, his worst shooting percentage of his career.
Because coaches overcoached and told him to change something such as his shot, which to me is the same as you changing your voice. They can tell you to stand differently, try out for different parts, try singing, try this.
But to me, telling somebody to change their voice, which is something they've been doing forever, would only make them self-conscious and not be able to perform their natural God-given abilities to shoot or act. A great coach can say, this is what you're doing wrong.
And I think they have a vision. They have a very specific way.
And look, I see it with my, and granted he played, right? But I see it with my father-in-law because he was a quarterback coach at USC. And now he coaches young guys who play for UCLA, all different teams.
And he will make these minor adjustments in them that I don't know how you could see other than having this brilliant eye for coaching. I also wonder if Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would have been the greatest coaches in the world.
Maybe not the greatest players, but maybe it didn't translate. So I think a great coach is a unique gift.
A great coach is a unique gift, but a great coach doesn't change a person. It puts them in the spot that they need to be to succeed in.
So like a great coach doesn't change the way a quarterback throws. A great coach recognizes that maybe that person's just not best suited

as a quarterback and they'd be far better as a running back or looks at like the skills they have and applies it to the field. Like to me, it's not a voice coach that said, if you want to do it, go in eyes wide open.
Maybe it works. Maybe it doesn't.
To me, it's more like, like the part right for you? Or are you doing this right in this? Like, I don't like you changing your voice personally. Also, I saw TikTok quickly just to make you feel even better about yourself, okay? Saying, is Josh Peck starting to look like Adrian Grenier? Thank you, honey.
Olivia says it to me every time i walk in here it's getting weird no i saw it that you look like adrian grenier and i again saw a tiktok comparing me to chris farley so well both are true and no i i get adrian grenier on my good days and i get I get Jay Leno after falling down the mountain outside of his hip. Put a pause on Leno because I want to talk about Leno.
We have to talk about Leno. Okay, but are we done with this? He's my fucking hero.
In conclusion, all I'll say is what his observation, this acting coach, and my acting coach who I've seen forever, a woman named Sharon Chatton, was very helpful with this. I think a great coach as an acting coach says, we want to make you available to do as many different parts as possible.
right like that's like a great gift that an acting coach can give you is that instead of only being able to play these three people and now you can play 10, right? So you've just expanded the net. And his thing to me was like, you have a very youthful voice.
You have a very like, and it works great for a particular kind of part. But if you ever had to play an older, maybe a period, maybe a curmudgeonly type, like I think he was, and by the way, it would be a degree.
It wouldn't be like some noticeable thing. Just all of a sudden after a couple months, you'd be like, Josh sounds a little more hardy.
This I agree with, okay? This I agree with. Should you change your voice to be in a British period piece? Absolutely.
Obviously. I don't think that you should go in with your same voice if you're going to be a cowboy i hear that for sure for sure leno josh leno leno jay one have you heard about this olivia one is he have you heard are you too gen z for jay leno oh i am not too gen z for jay leno he's okay and you's fascinating.
Look up what he looks like right now. Look it up.
The man is a gift from the gods. He's having some issues.
So Josh, I want to know one, is he addicted to drugs? Two, is he addicted to alcohol? Three, is he in trouble with his bookie? Or I'm trying to think of a fourth.

Or is he just a really, really. Or is he super low on iron?

And he tried to pop a relationship with his spouse.

Well, didn't he get, he had that fire.

There was a fire in his garage, right?

This one, he claims, this most recent one,

he was walking like down a hill and fell 50 yards or something.

Outside of his room at the Hampton Inn, you the hampton inn in pennsylvania like i mean the man looks like he shops at john fetterman's men's you just see him at goodwill and pa i mean he's i don't for anyone who doesn't know, the famous late night host who hosted late night before Jimmy Fallon, he basically recently, a couple of years ago, he's a massive car fan, owns hundreds of cars, was in a car fire while working on a car that burned off half his face and part of his body. He was in a burn Institute.
And then recently, yeah, he said he was doing a gig in Pennsylvania,

comedy gig in his mid seventies, walked out of a Hampton Inn out of the back door of his like the patio of his room. I'm sure he had like a junior suite and if he can swing it and fell 60 feet down, broke his wrist, lost a nail on his middle finger and his face looks like it was hit by a fucking Mack truck.
It's bad. And he has an iPad.
So the internet is asking the right questions, which is what actually happened to Jay Leno? I'm sorry, I'm not buying that he was just staying at the Hampton Inn, took a misstep and fell 60 feet down a hill. This one, why was he in the Hampton Inn? Okay.
Two, what's he doing walking out the back, falling down a hill? It just, things just aren't adding up. You're not hiking at your Hampton Inn.
I just don't get it. So my theory is he was meeting somebody at the Hampton Inn and you know, things a little ugly and they took him and they threw him down the hill outside the hampton inn i think he's having trouble money trouble it's impossible okay what do you think impossible do you know all the stories about leno no leno famously first of all from what i've heard from comedians over the years, in the late 80s and early 90s, Leno was maybe one of the greatest stand-ups ever.
And he's gotten a lot of shit because over the years during the 90s and 2000s, they just kind of thought he became hacky and a little bit just like, you know, typical network TV comedian, not that edgy. But first of all, he's proven to be an incredible guy that when there were, I think during the writer's strike in the mid 2000s, when basically every late night show during a writer's strike has to go dark.
And that means hundreds of people go out of work. He took his salary of $30 million and he took half of it and floated the entire crew for his show for 18 months paid them all their salary wow what a guy and maybe that's why now he's broke but he famously never touched his late night money and continued to tour like every weekend because he has no kids he's obviously obviously obsessed with working.
And I don't want to make this sound like a negative. I love Jay Leno.
Like I'm very impressed. I think he's an incredible guy.
So I think he's got plenty of money. I just think he might be a little clumsy little cutie.
Yeah, maybe. Okay.
Or not. Or you're right, Ben.
I don't know. It just seems fishy to me.
I'd rather, because I am such a fan, I'd rather just, he's clumsy. We'll leave it at that.
He's clumsy. But the craziest thing is, and the great Nicole Byer, who's going to come on the pod, said this on her Instagram.
She said, hold on. The day it happened, he performed that night with the fucked up face and the iPad and the broken wrist.
He's like, hello Colgate partners. Like, good morning Tyson Foods.
I have another theory. Here's the other theory.
That wherever he was performing, Josh, OK, they had him under like

a 10 year contract.

OK, and Leno wanted out.

He's like, I'm not doing this anymore.

I don't want to perform for you.

They beat the shit out of him.

And then he went on stage.

Wow.

Maybe you like that.

Maybe you like that.

He said, I'm done.

And they said, no, you're not.

Look, there is a comedy club called the hermosa comedy and magic club in in california in los angeles and i know what you're thinking i've never heard of it and that's what i would say exactly okay leno drives down there every week and performs. He has a residency at this club once a week.
Yeah.

This is old. Leno drives down there every week and performs.
He has a residency at this club once a week.

Yeah.

This is old.

Josh, this is an old deal.

He's in over his head.

When he was young, he's like, I'm going to want to do this.

I want the consistent money.

I'll sign a lifetime deal.

And now he's 70 and he wants out and they're beating the shit out of him to get him to go on stage.

This is a problem. Oh, poor the shit out of him to get him to go on stage this is a problem oh somebody's gotta help him or leno should we get to a speak pipe yeah let's do it hopefully leno calls in one speak pipe before our what are you nuts if you want to leave us a message get advice from us keep it brief brevity is key we don't want to hear your what are you And that.
We want you to ask us for advice and make it weird and scary. The weirder the better.
Go to speakpipe.com slash good guys. This is from Kelsey.
This isn't from Kelsey. Let me reload this because I don't know how to do it.
This is from Kelsey. Hi, Josh and Ben.
This is more on Kelsey. Quick question.
Over the weekend, I got to see Ina Garten, the Barefoot Contessa, talk in Boston. She talked about all her new memoir, her life with Jeffrey, yada, yada.
So she talked about the most perfect dinner party. You need the right music, the right cocktail, and the right meal.
So what I want to know from you two, what is you're making your perfect dinner party? Who are you inviting? What are you using for music? What do you make for a cocktail? Or what are you making for music what do you make for a cocktail and what are you making for dinner thanks love you guys wow excellent oh i didn't know i know it was touring

i would have gone i know it's huge you don't have a memoir call yourself a fan no nobody sent it to

me i would have gotten it i didn't even know it was out i'm gonna buy it now though i'm gonna buy

it i know i love you love her you want to go first you want me to go first i'll go first

Thank you. Love her.
You want to go first? You want me to go first? I'll go first. It would be great jazz standards.
John Coltrane, Miles Davis. You heard it here first.
The drink would be some sort of mule. I like this ginger beer.
And then, you know, the alcoholics, they can add the alcohol to it. But I'll just drink a ginger beer.

Or a delicious mint mojito spritzer.

A little spritzer.

And then the people there, it's going to be Ben and his beautiful wife, Claudia.

It's going to be the wonderful Olivia and Ethan. And then maybe the couple from that show, the Roloffs, from Roloff Farm, Little People Big World.
Just like two randos. I'm going to watch Ben try to not comment on the fact that they're little people all night.
And what are you eating? Oh, what are we eating? will do beautiful smash thin chicken cutlets

served in the israeli style with a lemon spritz a good arugula salad fresh parmesan balsamic on top then we're gonna do a light pasta dish really nice and at the end ice cream cake excellent you and your little people and me are gonna have a blast eating our thin chicken cutlets listening to jazz okay josh i'm gonna keep this really easy it's just meatloaf we're listening to meatloaf we're eating meatloaf and I'm dining with the legend himself meatloaf it's gonna be a meatloaf extravaganza you can come me you and meatloaf eating meatloaf listening to meatloaf and dining with meatloaf meatloaf three ways that's my dream that's meatloaf three ways that's so good it. Meatloaf three ways.
All right, folks,

what are you nuts? God, I have a great one, Josh. I can't wait.

Our what are you nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places, and things,

what we're mad at, what we're happy with, and everything in between, but it's got to be good.

Ben, start us off. Okay.
So yesterday I was at Bloomingdale's. Great sales, okay? Great sales in the home section.
We were looking just for some stainless steel pans. We don't have any, we have the beautiful nonstick caraway is beautiful, fantastic, but we were looking for some stainless steel because I wanted some and Josh, I went and bought all clad.
Yes, I did. Yeah, I know.
There's nothing you know that I don't know. No, I went to shop Allclad, okay? And I want to be clear.
This is not a unique problem to Allclad. This is a unique problem to anything sold in a set.
So I'm going to say my what are you nuts about Allclad, even though I bought it and I love it. But this is a what are you nuts about the category, okay? I went, Josh, to buy the set, okay? I'm buying a seven-piece set.
That's how it's advertised. There are five-piece sets, seven-piece sets, and ten-piece sets, okay? This is coming with a saute pan, maybe a nice pasta bowl, the stainless steel big pot, et cetera.
Of the seven-piece set, Josh, you know how many actually piece, do you know how many pieces you actually get? Four because of lids. Yes.
What are you nuts? A lid isn't a piece. This is mayhem.
I'm getting a seven piece set, four pieces, three are lids. This is insanity.
Insanity. That is a four piece set with lids, not a seven piecepiece set what are you nuts good for you terrible word up but i bought them amazing i can't wait oh i can't wait oh all clad my what are you nuts is raw milk enough okay listen to me i'm talking to you lauren and michael bostic no my bosses they just found bird flu in the raw milk this is we we created ultra pasteurization ultra pasteurization that's a little nuts it's like good till 2026 but like normal pasteurization that makes pasteurization, that's a little nuts.
It's like good till 2026.

But like normal pasteurization

that makes it good for a couple weeks.

Science is good.

It's just quick boiling.

What are you nuts?

You're going to get bird flu from the raw milk

and it's debatable whether

or not you're getting any more nutrients from

said raw milk. I know it's popular.

I know the Robert Kennedy. He loves the drink.
I'm going to have my raw milk. Enough already.
What are you, nuts? I'm with you. Nuts.
That's too much. Too much.
Pasteurization is good. Cleaning is good.
Get a net. Do you want to not get a net and not take out any any of the flies? He's going to choke on a fly.
No good. I'm with you.
Thank you, Ben. Take us home.
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