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Oh, Josh. I'd be remiss not to tell our listeners that you recently celebrated a birthday, didn't you, you dirty dog? I did, dirty, dirty dog.
And you, you mensch, you sweetheart, you got me a beautiful, beautiful gift. Good.
People were asking, they were like, Ben, did you get him a fucking gift? Yeah, I did. But I did it in my way, which is I remembered to get him the gift and then forgot his actual birthday on the day.
And also, you must have taken an Adderall on Sunday. I have never seen Ben so into our podcast.
He was so beautiful. He's sending me text after text.
How about an idea for this? Maybe this could be a new segment. Maybe we need to utilize YouTube.
And with each text, I go, is this the one where he wishes me a happy birthday? Spoiler alert. And I was wondering to myself, why is he leaving me on read? What could he possibly be doing that's more important than answering my questions about how to grow our already number one podcast in the whole world? And it's because it was Josh's birthday.
So everybody, happy birthday to Josh. We love you a great deal.
And as I mentioned, the beautiful Ferragamo wallet that I got, you may be re-gifted if you'd like to. Just saying, I have no problem with a re-gift.
What you do once it's in your possession, no longer my problem. First of all, I couldn't agree more.
Anyone who gets upset when something's re-gifted, you're nuts. You won the moment you handed that gift over.
Now let it go. Let it go.
The whole point was that you received it from me. If you'd like to do something else with that no problem i have no issues honestly the person that checks up on the fucking gift they gave you stop giving me jobs it's not my job to receive the gift i got the gift maybe i'll use it maybe i won't maybe i threw it away maybe i regifted it thank you for the gift're done.
I couldn't agree with you more. And I also want to ask you, did you insist that Bloomingdale's keep the price tag on so I knew what kind of macher you are? No, I did not.
But it never hurts for you to remember. That was a classy.
That was a classy price point. Never hurts.
That is the price point of someone who's doing well. Never hurts, Josh.
Never hurts to remind at all that I am a generous person. Sometimes, yes, I have a fleeting memory.
We're going to deal with that at a different time. But I remembered.
I asked Paige in advance. i ordered it that day and then it came monday and i was like fuck i forgot his birthday and where has the gift been delivered your memory is wild oh wild i mean i get constant dms now from the moron nation about just what is going on with you? What do you think it is?

I think that perhaps I am juggling quite a few things at once. And then I pop into the pod and I'm just so excited to be here that I just want to say everything that's on my mind.

And I don't vet in my mind if I've already said it or not.

You're like one of those goats that get scared and so they freeze and tip over.

Or is it a sheep?

I think goats just scream.

Sheep, I think, freeze.

Well, you know, it's funny because you made a good point.

You were like, how in the world should I remember

it's your birthday?

Your own wife didn't post anything for you. No did i was the first person who did a day late so here's the thing okay here we go walk me through what happened i'm passionate about this okay and i'm fucking i'm sick i'm sick okay you should be sick this is fucked up sick i listen, plenty of people posted Sunday.
Plenty. Celebritybirthdays.com.
FamousJews.net. FormerFatPeople.org.
All of it. Nickelodeon Nation.
Fuck you. All of it.
They post for your boy. Okay? And my friend, Kid David, shout out the best.
Posting. I don't post these on sunday no no no no i wait i wait because i want to see who the real ones are okay it's a test and you know what you all failed that's right it's unfortunate here's the problem It's a good test, no's an excellent test but here is the problem nobody has a planner and nobody anymore has facebook so how in the world are we supposed to remember each other's birthdays i forget even my closest friend's birthdays until later in the day you i didn't forget i will hold myself to that because I got you the present.
You did. It's very, it's very hard for me though, personally, to remember people's birthdays because I don't have it written somewhere.
I now have actually, I take that back. Google does a nice job.
When I wish somebody a happy birthday, they'll then try and put it into my calendar. Yes.
Maybe it's Apple, maybe it's Google. So I have a couple of randos in there.
Okay. But besides that, I relied so heavily on Facebook the way that my mom relied so heavily on her planner.
So how do we remember each other's birthdays now, Josh? I really don't know. We rely on social media.
One person remembers, you repost, and then everybody remembers.

I agree.

And I'm going to come for the Apple Corporation right now.

That's right, Timmy Cook.

Maybe I don't want to send balloons when I text happy birthday.

Agreed.

Because my friend's mother died, and it was her birthday, and I said happy birthday posthumously

to so-and-so, and it's balloons.

The person's dead.

It's not nice.

No, and I'm going to take it one further. This one's on Instagram though.
During the entire month of October, when I wrote anything related to Halloween, they made it the color orange and threw in a pumpkin. What if I didn't want it themed? What if I just to write halloween without a theme and as we know observant jews are vehemently against halloween of course we are because we have a competing holiday called purim it's the same thing and we don't celebrate false idols listen to our yom kippur app yeah exactly by the way we should we should do a nice Purim-ep.
We should.

We'll dress up.

Ooh, baby, we'll get the groggle.

Or ha-man.

We'll shake that groggle.

That's so funny.

Yeah, well, what were we talking about?

Birthdays.

My birthday. Yeah, somebody needs to invent a way for me to know when my loved one's birthdays are

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I'm telling you that when you have disposable, like I'm talking real disposable income and you have a, let's say an executive assistant, the classy of classy moves is you are on top of people's birthdays, on top of job promotions, on top of bereavement, whatever. You're throwing out handwritten notes, edible arrangements.
Listen, you will, Tom Cruise is famous for that coconut, vanilla coconut cake he sends over the holidays. When you're throwing out gifts like this in the $200 to $400 range, rando style style people think you are the greatest person alive this is it's incredibly classy we've spoken about it in the past and nobody come for me i know i'm repeating a story i am on a list friend of mine who occasionally may or may not during the holiday send me something from montclair okay wow and wow i And this shows up and I, every single year, I'm like, I'm still on the list.
This is, this is unbelievably classy. And Josh, to take it one step further, this person puts on the back, the name of the person at Montclair in case you want to return or exchange.
He doesn't mind. He's just giving the gift.
You then have a credit. You go.
This is the epitome of a class and luxury. All I want is to be able to do that.
If I can have just 200 people that I'm gifting every year would be a dream, would be a dream. In case you don't like it, go see Tyrone.
Yeah.

Yeah, that's what it is. year would be a dream.
Would be a dream. In case you don't like it, go see Tyrone.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what it is.

Literally.

And he's lovely.

And I don't mean to make light of such a generous gift.

And let's be honest, most people will never know anything from Montclair.

Not never.

Not me.

Never.

By the way, we'll get you something. But like any luxury good.
A good goose feather. Before you go to Canada, we're getting you a good goose feather.
I would love it. But like Louis Vuitton, right? The price point ranges.
You could get a belt from Louis Vuitton for $400 or $500, which is possible for many people, right? You save up. You could certainly buy a belt maybe eventually.
Or you could buy a... Nobody will talk to you ever again though if you wear that belt, but you could.
You could buy it. You could buy a Louis Vuitton belt.
Have you never been to Glendale or Staten Island? Okay. You basically need a Louis Vuitton belt to get in there, into the township.
It's the price of admission. It is.
Continue. But then there's also like a Louis Vuitton, you know, luggage, which thousand dollars so the montclair gift are we talking the belt or the trunk we're talking somewhere between the belt and the trunk really yeah for 200 people i don't know how big the list is i just know i'm on it i was saying my list i would love to have a nice list of people.
200 actually is too much.

50.

I could deal with 50.

But yeah, it's like typically around-

1,000 bucks?

1,000 to 1,500 bucks.

Yeah.

So if that's 100 people, that's $150,000.

Yeah.

Chump change.

That's what you dream about.

That being chump change.

Wow. And all I had to do was suck

his dick six times that was it by the way worth it i don't think i'm gonna feel josh is like where do i sign up to suck listen i love my wife but if i end my life without ever trying it once it's incomplete. I digress.

Don't bring it up, me.

I'm curious.

That's exactly like me when I buy

$15. trying it once it's incomplete i digress don't bring it up me i'm curious that's exactly like me when i buy 15 starbucks gift cards from gosco and i'm dishing those out left and right come find me in december you might get three lattes yeah and by the way that is a very generous gift to somebody that maybe you don't love that much yes if i good.
Yes. If I don't know your name, have a Starbucks on me.
I once received in the mail from a cousin, happy birthday, Ben, in there, $5 Dunkin' Donuts gift card. Why give anything, Josh? I didn't need anything.
I didn't even need the card. Give me nothing.
Don't tell me happy birthday. I need nothing.
Five dollars. What the fuck am I going to get at Dunkin Donuts for five dollars? Is this person financially strapped? I don't know.
I don't think so. Because it's relative, right? If that person doesn't have a lot of disposable income, then being like, I'm going to give you as much as I can is a nice thing.

Yes, I would agree.

But I'd rather you write on the card, I'm financially strapped.

I couldn't give you more than a $5 gift card.

So I decided to give you nothing.

Oh, yeah, that's better.

I'd be like, Jesus, couldn't you just got me the gift cards

and not give me the shame spiral? And so that I don't feel bad, this person is not financially strapped. Ben, things have been rough.
This person could do more. They like use the gift card to tell you how bad, or they use your birthday card to tell you how bad their life is.
Hey, Ben, was going to give you a $4 gift card to Pete, but realized that things have just not been going great for good old Moishe. First, my wife got hit by the Midtown bus.
That's right. B-52.
Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.
Those deductibles. But have a happy birthday.
Thank you. I'm 38, Poppy.
I'm getting close to 40. Getting close.
And 40 will be your best year yet. Age is just a number, my friend.
As long as you keep dyeing your hair, no one will ever know. I don't dye my hair.
Oh, please. Stop it.
You have salt and pepper. I am salt and pepper, but I don't dye it.
Olivia's right here. She can attest.
I don't dye it. This is true.
This is true. There's a gorgeous little peppery sheen in there.
All right. Well, maybe you should.
How dare you? No, your hair looks fantastic. Age is just a number.
I think you look wonderful. And happy 38th to you.
I can't really think of a more like random birthday, though. 38? would you say it's your most random birthday yet i like you know we all have a thing for numbers don't we like yes certain numbers feel good like 37 was great 38 no 30 30 was 36 good 36 was good 37 meh but i'm weird and i've been i've had this since i was a kid and you guys and

olivia please feel free to weigh in on this i have always felt that odd years for me are great

and even years are kind of meh like even years are a building year not talking about age talking

about the year that we're in so like 2023 2021 bookedheimer. 2023, we went to two episodes a week.
2024, meh. I don't know.
I don't know. So maybe we're on opposite ends.
My 2024, great year. You were in the Hamptons all the time.
No, this was a great year. Excellent.
A plus. But I think 2025, Josh, is our best year yet.
What is this, a New Year's episode? Wow, that's great. I just think that's fantastic, Ben.
What about you, Olivia? Do you go by years? Do you have good and bad years?

I do.

I do.

I feel like the even years have marked some like my high school graduation, my college

graduation in the odd years, like we're big building block years, I guess, in terms of

like doing the work.

But they've been tough.

Twenty twenty three was a little brutal.

It had a good upswing at the end to lead into a positive twenty twenty four.

So I feel you there.

Yeah, right.

I've never thought about it, but I guess so. I've never thought about it.
I have to do a post-mortem on each year. It's possible.
I went to a Joan Rivers tribute at the Apollo Theater this past week. And that was your first time at the Apollo? It was my first time at the Apollo.
What a sick venue it is. It was in, it was a charitable experience for God's love we deliver Joan's favorite charity, which I would like to start helping out with more.
I've done stuff with them in the past. We've done a couple of events with them, but they're great giving hot meals.
I think it's hot medical meals, like to people that like need a specific diet, the elderly, but this event was amazing. The best part was watching Joan Rivers reruns.
And there were great comics there. Tiffany Haddish, Nikki Glaser, like no shade on any of these people.
They would show five minutes of Joan Rivers just doing standup, the best part of the night. That woman was so unbelievably funny and gifted.
I just don't think we talk about it enough. Joan Rivers, icon.
Icon. Well, there's a story in the New York Post of Pornhub reveals each state's top election night searches.
You won't believe what Florida was looking at. Pornhub has revealed each state's top election searches with frisky Floridians perusing the porn pages for politically themed videos.
The adult website shared the dirty data exclusively with the post giving an insight into the minds and fantasies of amorous americans in the days before and after donald trump was named the country's 47th president so okay let's play a game okay we'll do a game olivia feel free to sit this one out or be a part of it. Completely up to you again, completely up to you.
Oh man. I don't really know how we play the game.
Okay. I'm going to just guess like you can tell me.
Yeah. Whatever.
Okay. Whatever.
I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you the, the search word and then I'm going to give you three states that it could be multiple choice. Okay.
Okay. Let's start easy.
Let's start. Cute.
You have it for all 50 states? I have it for, there's some states left out of this. I don't know why.
Maybe because. You have it for, but you have it for a lot of states.
Plenty of states. Okay.
Thick and curvy. The key word here is thick and curvy.

The states are California, Utah, Nevada.

California for sure, thick and curvy.

With those three, they're not searching for that in Utah.

I guess Vegas could go thick and curvy. No, I'm sticking with the folks of California, thick and curvy.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Excellent.
Was that you, Josh? Did they get it? I was just Googling myself. Rubbing one out to me.
That's so gross. Sorry.
Sorry, Olivia. I know.
No, that's hilarious hilarious Someone call HR Okay The next one is Oh this is another one for me and you Ben Chubby The key word here is chubby Okay The choices are Minnesota South Carolina Carolina, Illinois. Oh, oh, this is tough.
I don't. Don't I know it? South Carolina.
Final answer. Final answer.
Olivia, do you want to weigh in or no? I do. I feel like it's got, I feel like Minnesota.
It got to stay warm up there. Unfortunately, you're both wrong.
It's Illinois. Home of the deep illinois what are the odds but you know all right all that deep dish pizza and portillos i mean come on beautiful it's so beautiful okay one more one more um okay the final question is maga Florida! Yep, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding Florida you got it oh my god that's so good well there's another story and I think we'd be remissed for not talking about it porn site traffic surges to 12 this is a dirty birdie episode yeah but this is a great article cell traffic surges to 12-year high after Mattel mistakenly prints URL on Wicked doll boxes.
This porn purveyor is suddenly way more popular thanks to Wicked. A skin site is seeing surging levels of traffic after its URL was accidentally printed on the packaging of Wicked doll boxes.
Ugh, it's terrible. So there are these like dolls of the Wicked characters and they printed on them.
I think it's wickedproductions.com, which is some porn site. What are they, nuts? Like the levels of approval these things need to go through.
This was an inside job, Josh. Somebody over there is a horn dog.
That is, that's crazy. Is that person fired on the spot? For sure, right? On the spot.
Oh yeah. No, because they have to like alleviate themselves of all, or remove themselves of all liability.
It was that person and that person only. He's gone.
Oh, and you know it's a he, hey for sure and do those boxes get ripped off the shelves

that's a good question is there a recall i would assume so it's just not good you have a 12 year

old buying a toy and it comes with a is there a qr code that scans to it or it's just a plane

can you imagine it's like a hologram bad all bad i mean that's bad now will you and your wife go

Thank you. plane.
Can you imagine? It's like a hologram. Bad.
Oh, bad. I mean.
That's bad. Now, will you and your wife go see Wicked? Yes, we have tickets.
We have tickets for the Friday night of Thanksgiving. We bought them nice and early.
We will see it. She's a huge Wicked fan.
I, of course, appreciate it. Appreciate the soundtrack.
And all I know is they have marketed this movie wonderfully. I've heard it's great, but I've seen it everywhere.
Seen it everywhere. Will you see it, Josh? I won't, but I hear...
But I'm not a big fan of musical movies, but first of all, obviously i know ariana who's always been lovely to me and is one of the great talents and wait you you know ariana and she we need her on this podcast we're over here with ian fydance and we can't get ariana grande hold on let me let me speak for ariana when i say she'll never do it also i'm so sorry that ian finance caught a stray bullet he's awesome it's awesome he's mad he's crushing it but uh yeah she's i obviously i i know her and and i'm a big fan of her she's a crazy incredible talent cynthia arrivo of the greatest. So I know that it's all the parts are right.
I just, I'm not, you know, we'll see. And John Chu, the director, is a fucking mensch.
You want to talk about one of the nicest guys? We stan John Chu here. What a name, too.
Love it, John Chu. Fantastic.
Rushing. Olivia, will you go see it? I will go see it.
I have never seen the Broadway play and I've minimally listened to the soundtrack or the musical rather, but I've minimally listened to the soundtrack. But again, like the marketing is so good and my roommate is a huge fan.
So we'll definitely be it. Wow.
Wow. See, Josh, they're even pulling in non-fans.
Like they're really, they're crushing it. What do you think they'll do? What's the, what, do you know the record box office weekend one numbers and what movie it went to? Maybe Avengers.
It's worth thinking. I don't know the answer.
That was a retort. I don't know.
I would say Avengers, not, is it Barbie? Biggest box office, or is it Avatar? Josh,osh you were right it's avengers end game 357 whoo that's 357 holy crap all right so this is going nowhere near that but i was reading that it cost them 160 million to make which feels like they'll make back pretty damn quickly but that means that they're all in at 300 million because of P&A. What's P&A? Press and advertising.
Understood. So the 160 is just for the movie.
It's just physical production cost. Understood.
Okay. So they're, yeah, they're spending about three.
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Well, it's fascinating with movie.

I think this is interesting, would be interesting to people. So you have a movie like Wicked, right? Yeah.
So the first thing with most movies is that a major studio, say they're spending $10 million on the film, right? Before the movie's ever made, what they'll try to do is go sell it to international territory, foreign territory, basically. So that's why it's really important that if you're famous in america that's kind of like whatever you want to have international foreign box office value josh peck it's a donut i got zero it's not true we have our man in pakistan we didn't forget you we have our man in in Pakistan.
Thank you, my man in Pakistan. No, straight up.
I know I'm big in South America. Apparently, it doesn't translate to any money.
But regardless, so your boy's a big zero. But like someone like, you know, Keanu Reeves, like if you are a action star or a horror star, because those are the kind of movies that really travel internationally, right? It doesn't get lost in translation.
Sure. Being scared works in every language and so does great spectacular action.
So what they'll do is if you have a $10 million movie before they ever start producing it, before they ever roll the camera, they'll go sell it for a million dollars for the exclusive rights in Brazil. And then, you know, $2 million in Japan, right? So basically the studio is trying to make its money back before it ever rolls camera.
Understood. With something like Wicked, right? I don't know if you've seen all like the collaborations with different brands.
Sure. They, in theory, might have already made their physical production costs back because Audi or whomever, or I don't know, I think I saw Cynthia Erivo in a commercial singing about paper towels.
I don't know. Like they paid wicked to use the wicked IP and made back money before the show even start before the movie even came out.
Like tens of millions. Super cool.
And yes, I do think this is interesting. It's funny that you mentioned selling a movie.
I just had, you ever have like a flash memory? I haven't thought of this since I was eight years old. I was in Israel at my cousin's house and he took me to see Mission Impossible in theaters.
I saw it in Israel. Fun fact.
Right. Look at that.
Yeah. I never saw it here.
And your cousin was like, Ben, you want to see a Tom Cruise? This guy's Mission Impossible. It's very good.
Go to the movie. We have Shkwama and it's going to be wow.
I love it.

But yeah, I'll see Wicked.

I'm excited to see Wicked.

I think it'll do very well.

Very well.

It's going to crush. Defying Gravity.

What a song.

Unbelievable.

And shout out John Travolta trying to pronounce Idina Menzel's name.

So good.

That clip, I will never get over it.

That's the best clip ever.

And now, the wickedly talented Adele Dussin. What? Did he have a- It's insane.
Did he have a minor stroke? I don't know. I don't know.
It's only second to me you remember when steve harvey who did miss universe and read the wrong woman's name i vaguely vaguely that's that's it's the only other one like that that really just makes me cackle but the wickedly talented Adele Dizzy. It's not even close.
No.

It's not even close. No.
He also looked insane. That was one of the times where he looks nutty.
I fucked with John Travolta. Oh, he's the best.
Yeah. Why not? So funny.
Oh, man. Should we get to a speak pipe? Yeah.
Okay, if you want to leave us a question, if you want our advice, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys, and we will read your question on the air. If it's good and if it's bad, that's on you.
Sorry. Let's hear this first one from anonymous.
F. Mary, kill for you guys, airplane edition.
How about the person that takes their shoes off on the plane, the person that stands up the second the plane shuts off, and then the person that reaches over you to take a picture out the window. Would love to hear any sort of crazy things you think people do on planes that are just nuts as well.
But those are the three for F marry kill. I don't really understand.
How do you fuck marry and kill these things? The things are the person who takes their shoes off on a plane. The person who reaches over you to take a picture out the window.
And what was the second one? The person who stands up. The second the plane.
The person who stands the second of the plane but but explain to me i don't understand how we fuck marry kill these okay i'll start i would say that i would marry the person who takes her shoes off i take my shoes off on planes i don't go to the bathroom shoeless but obviously listen when you're in one of those nice laid down pods. I was going to say, look, Joshy and Jep Blumen taking off his shoes is very different than 450 pound Rick from Nebraska in a middle seat taking off his socks.
Okay. You're there.
You put on the nice sock. You're cozy.
First class, different.

Coach, I'm so out on you taking off your shoes. Sorry.
Even if Rick, I'm not being fat phobic. Even if Rick was nice and slim, Rick still can't take off his shoes.
100% Rick. Keep those diabetic feet in those fucking Merrells.
Rick. What's his name? Dan.
Keep keep the dogs away keep those feet in those those nike air monarchs that you got at a discount shoe warehouse for 48 dollars keep them in with the with the with the laces tied on the side because you gotta hike your leg up and you i love. I love hiking my leg.
I still hike my leg.

Why not?

Listen, when the laces are on, when it's tied on the inside of the foot, on the insole,

you know something like this happened.

They're going over the buyer.

He's 100% pulling on the bottom of his pants to get it up to it like this it's so good we should invent a long sock that has a handle so you can just pull up by the sock. Oh, that is so good.

Just as a shoehorn built into the sock.

Oh, my God.

All right.

So you're fucking the shoes off.

Fucking shoes off.

I'm going to hook up with taking picture no that person's gotta go because you're leaning over you're in my space get out of here i got the window seat i get the view i get everything you get no you get nothing in my window seat and then the person who jumps up i i just don't care i couldn't agree more the person who needs to die is the one that invaded my personal space. That's right.
Get out of here. Yes.
You should be put on the terrorist watch list. Don't reach.
I'll put you on there. Don't reach.
Don't touch me. Come nowhere near me.
Also, you're really taking a picture of what's outside of your plane as if you're ever going to look at that again. No.
Google it. Google picture from plane.
You'll get fantastic pictures. You don't need it on your phone.
That's right. Like, oh, you're taking a picture out of the window of a 737 Southwest flight to Albuquerque? You don't need it.
Oh, let me call Nobel. You know what I'm saying? Okay, next one from Anonymous.
Hi, Josh and Ben. I have a question for you.
I just listened to your rant about gift giving and how you said you should always bring a gift to a birthday, a wedding, anytime you're celebrating a friend. And I completely agree with that.
I am the person who's always giving my friends gifts when it's appropriate. But I have noticed the past few years, the gifts are not always reciprocated in my favor.
And I guess my question is, what do I do? Do I continue to give my friends gifts and show them love because I actually do love giving them gifts? Or do I maybe just ease up and save my bottom line a little? Let me know what you think. Bye.
Wow. You do not give to receive.
What was her name? Rose Ellen? I don't know. Okay.
Ellen Rose. Daisy Nancy.
I don't know. You do not give to receive.
It's great that you love giving gifts. I too love giving gifts.
If you feel that you are potentially really hurting your bottom line, then I highly recommend spending slightly less on the gifts that you're giving. Maybe be a little bit more personal as opposed to just designer.
But gift giving is something that you do not do to receive. You do it because it brings you joy.
Otherwise, you're just going to be miserable forever. Josh? I you absolutely but yes if it's not if it's not reciprocated i don't think you need to continue to put yourself in a position to be disappointed like yes you give for yourself but yeah eventually i would stop if that person like was coming to my birthday dinners coming to my birthday things and never was like at least making some attempt right i mean it's not quid pro quo but i guess you know you you bring up a good point you know i was constantly giving and giving and giving and giving and giving i guess at some point i guess to me like that person is just not a gift giver but they would need to be giving me other things that's right being a like being a great friend like if these are like shitheads that you're gifting to, I completely agree.
Stop it. But sometimes people show their appreciation for somebody else in a different way.
And as long as they're still doing that, I think you can keep giving. And shout out to my boy, Kid David, who I called out on the podcast two weeks ago because I was like, he didn't give me a wedding gift.
That was not cool. He gave me the most lovely birthday present.
His and yours are my two favorites. He gave me a sick, sick jacket.
The kid is a mensch. Ben is a mensch.
You two would really get along. He's the son of a rabbi.
Shout out Kid David. Excellent Kid David.
Love my jacket. Well done.
Love my wallet. Well done, Kid.
Thank you, Ben. Should we get to Whitty Nuts? Yes, I I would love to.
Our Whittier Nuts moment of the week are our gripes with people, places, and things. Current, anything that's going on in our life, big or small, that's sticking in our craw.
Ben, take it away. So, you know, you sit down at a diner for a nice meal, right? Maybe you order, I order a tuna sandwich.
I like a French onion soup. Hold the bread.
That whole thing, that's another Whittier Nuts. French onion soup with bread, that's a whole meal.
I'm just trying to have a little appetizer. But you're at the diner.
You're ordering whatever you're ordering. Of course, you're going to have a soda, right, Josh? I order a Diet Coke.
I love a nice fountain Diet Coke at a beautiful New York City. Crisp, crispy.
I finish that perfect soda and the waiter comes up to me and says, want a refill? I say yes. The soda comes back.
I've drank it. I get the bill, Josh.
On that bill is two diet Cokes. No, absolutely not.
If you say to me, want a refill, it implies that it is a free refill. It just does.
Do not ask me if I want a refill. If I finished, Josh, if I finished a spinach artichoke dip, would you come up to me and say, want a refill? No, I would have to order another spinach artichoke dip if I wanted another spinach artichoke dip.
The implication of the refill is that it should be free and charging me for two diet Cokes is not right. What are you nuts? Free i don't know how i feel about this i don't know i agree i agree with you that soda should be free listen soda is the cheapest thing that any establishment will provide with you unless you're doing coke in the glass bottles and then who are you okay yes go vote for bernie all right but a fountain's free fountain's free i mean fountain soda is so it's negative money basically so the idea that you want to charge me again to it kills me but i don't know if i would expect it because this is the day and age in which we live even if i use the words want want a refill.
Yes. If I came to you and I said want a refill, you're assuming it's free.
How should they have said it? Want another? How should they have said it? Like to be charged for another beverage, Mr. Sovereign? Fuck.
No, you're right. How would they have said it? I think the term refill in my mind, I associate with free.
But perhaps, would you like another, would have made me feel differently. Would you like another? I'm thinking in my head, maybe this freaking cheap ass bastard is charging me.
Yeah, I get it. My Woody and Nuts is, and it's a very light Woody and Nuts because I do love it.
We have a place called in Los Angeles. Olivia, you had this? I actually don't think I have yet.

You heard of this?

I have heard of it.

I think you've spoken about it before.

I don't know if it's the same way to nuts.

I'm just letting you know.

Continue.

It is a spectacular bagel.

Spectac.

Unbelievable.

These people are doing it right.

Now, I make sure to go on a weekday at an off time

because I know you go Sunday morning, you know, go ride bike get out of here never gonna happen but i randomly go one day and i've i've only gone there twice in person like this and i it takes about five minutes to get through the line put in my order beautiful they got something called rip and dip rip it and dip it hot sesame bagel or a hot everything bagel and just beautiful butter on the side and you just you're ripping and dipping but then five minutes to order 50 minutes to receive said bagels there were so many people and everything what i've come to sort of know is like kind of baked to order. It's bagels.
What are you nuts? This has got to be quicker, right? 50 minutes, five, zero. It took 50.
Well, you're there. You're there in person.
Waiting. Oh, my.
I know. Oh.
I know. Oh, this is no good.
This is no good. And I don't want to shit on it because I was so annoyed.

And then I ate it and I'm like, this is the greatest bagel in the world.

Like it is, it's worth the wait, but it shouldn't take that long.

By the way, any bagel, I'm not trying to say the courage bagels isn't amazing.

And it is.

Any bagel right out from the oven, actually right out at a great bagel place, is going to be the best bagel you've ever had.

Sure.

Like that is just a fact because we're used to in New York eating eight-hour-old bagels that still taste unbelievable.

Right.

The one fresh from the oven, steaming as you pull it apart, and the dip sounds amazing.

It's not – nothing's worth the wait. I'm sorry.
Nothing's worth a 50 minute wait while you're sitting there because then you're eating it in two minutes. No, I want my 50 minutes back.
Nuts. I agree.
And that's a problem, right? I think it's because we're New Yorkers and we know like S a bagel or H and H or any like the, like they have it so dialed in that it could just be like that. And this location, it got super, you know, like it's a small little spot that got super popular because it is that damn good.
So what did I do? Thank God I ordered two. One, they do this thin baked sesame bagel with peanut butter and jelly on it.
Almond butter, I think. Oh, wow.
And you wait that second. So you do the rip and dip first, savory.
Then you hit yourself with a dessert bagel. That's it.
And then, oh, it's epic. And I was going to say, that puts you to sleep, no? That would put me to sleep.
No. I'm out like a light.
No, it's clean. Clean and fresh, ready to go.
Ready to go, babe. Sourdough, leavened.
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