The People V. Ozempic

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm Josh Peck.
And I'm Ben Soffer. And we're the good guys.
There's a lot of guys out there. And we're the good ones.
Mazel morons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with the lost Jewish Kelsey brother.
It's Ben Soffer. Oh, man.
Did you see what happened to them last week? That was nuts. With the phone? With the phone? At Penn State? Oh, I saw it.
That was nuts. That was crazy.
I'm just saying, the guy that antagonized him, that was not nice. That was not nice.
Yeah, you know, there's this great clip. There are these two MMA fighters named Nick Diaz and Nate Diaz, some of the greatest fighters in UFC history.
Nate Diaz was asked once, did you get bullied in high school or did you ever have issues in high school with fights and stuff? He looked at him and said, no, man, I had an older brother. Your heart swells.
Just this idea that there was like an older brother looking out for him and that's how i felt watching jason kelsey do it i mean understandably so people who are paid like that who are famous like that must be held to a higher standard undoubtedly but like every now and then you fuck around and you find out and you know what I can respect that he felt the need to protect his brother. Protect his brother.

No. and then you fuck around and you find out.
And you know what? I can respect that he felt the need to protect his brother, protect his brother. Nobody likes the language used.
No one likes the language. That said, it was just a fucked up situation.
Somebody's running down the street, holding a phone in your face, yelling about your your brother and his incredibly famous girlfriend. I thought it was the only reasonable response.

And there was nothing cooler than the snatched phone

and the slammed phone.

Like, I don't know what I would have done.

I like act like that.

You would have gotten on your phone.

Yeah, I was about to say, I would have beat him up.

No, I would have been like, hello?

What do you think about the fact that Josh is a a loser for dating his wife ben's like sorry sorry one second hello yeah of course yeah i'll be right there okay yeah yeah you're saying my dry cleaning's ready or not ready no i can't put you speaker. I'm in a public zone.
Avoid confrontation at all costs. What would you have done? You would have beat him up, man.
I mean, Joe, Jason Kelsey is 280 pounds pure man, man. Like, like, I don't know.
I've, I've, I speak at a lot of colleges. These kids are big.
So. So you're 180 pounds of pure man.
No, he's 280. I'm saying you're 180 pounds of pure man.
I appreciate it. I mean, are you 180? Was that a good guess? Yeah, probably 190 if I'm being honest.
But you're 190 pounds of pure man. But if I had to pop off and like, I think I would feel comfortable fighting someone if they put hands on you, if they put hands on someone I loved or cared about.
And other than that, I can't see a scenario in which. And I think if I'm that guy and I grab the phone and smash it, that guy's coming for me.
Like I'm on the street, minding my own business. And somebody comes up to me and gives me a huge titty twister.
Yeah. What are you doing? If he put his hand, if someone put their hands on you, I mean, I would assess it really quick.
Like if I thought they were absolutely fucking crazy, but I don't know. I just might go like, are you out of your fucking mind? What the fuck are you doing? Like, I think titty twister was too funny.
Somebody comes up to me and they punch me in the face. Oh, I would.
I it would be bad. We're brawling.
What's funnier than a Titty Twister? I mean, I was always so nervous about them because of my male male breasts. And so, like, I always was like, I don't want I don't.
I was like, that feels like sexual harassment. No, they hurt.
They're painful. Yeah, painful.
I don't think that we use the term anymore the indian burn that was another one oh listen all of these things have gone the way of the dodo and so they should these old school tortures old school old school pranks unacceptable who who who twists somebody's skin in two different directions for sport? It's insane. Villains.
What about Knuckles? You ever play fucking Knuckles? Terrible. Yes, or even this game.
Oh, that one's bad. Yeah, the slap.
That slap, isn't that, that game's called Slap? Yes. Where you have your palms, and then the other person has their hands on top of your palms and you slap them i think that is because as a child you have so few responsibilities that you need pain to remind you that you're alive whereas like as an adult you have like just crushing credit card debt and super high blood pressure and that reminds you you're alive you have the constant reminders, thank God I haven't been punched in the nuts in quite some time.
But I feel like at one point in time, that would happen once every six months. Yeah.
You get smacked right in the nuts out of nowhere. And I'm sorry, ladies.
I know childbirth is tough being punched in the nuts. Oof.
That is an unexplainable pain. Being really socked in the nuts.
I'm just glad. I'm so relieved to not be a kid.
I love it. Me too.
No, being an adult is fantastic. How do we protect Max against those things? Do we teach Max how to do those things because the person doing those things typically doesn't have those things done done to him.
But we don't want Max to be a bully either. But how do we protect him? Well, I think with modernity, we've lost this compulsion to learn how to protect ourselves.
And I think and also because like people are like, I can protect myself. I have a concealed carry license.
It's like, isn't there somewhere in between where it's like two people, if it comes to blows, it happens. And God willing, like both people walk away.
And it just it was unfortunate that it needed to happen. But these things do happen.
Like, that's why I want Max to be in some form of martial arts. I think it's good for the discipline.
I think it's good for the roundhouse kicks. And I think it's good if a kid comes to him in sixth grade and is like, your dad isn't talented.
And he's like, I'll show you. He's got to protect my name.
He's got to protect your name a thousand percent. And I liked the discipline piece, I think is real.
Like speaking for myself, I don't know anybody that's in martial arts that's dumb. I think that martial arts sort of trains you to be regimented.
I also, by the way, don't know many people in martial arts. But like the couple of people I know, very smart, very smart.
I agree. I don't see a lot of negatives.
And every, almost everyone I know, the 99% of people I know that actually train fighting in some respect, be it jujitsu or boxing or Muay Thai or any kind of like, you know, Taekwondo, they're not violent people. Like they're some of the most relaxed around violence.
How badly, how badly when you were a large child, did you want to be a black belt in karate? Because all I wanted, it's funny, all I wanted was to be like a serious Jackie Chan. Like I would watch Rush Hour and I'd be like, that's what I want to be.
And then I'd look down and I'd be like, oh, I'm 280 pounds and 13. Like I can't do that.
But that's all I wanted. That and to do the tricks in the skate park.
Those are the two things I wanted. Oh, that was sick.
I knew I couldn't, I broke five limbs by the time I was 12. I was never going to be on a vert ramp.
Okay. All I wanted was the vert ramp.
All I wanted. That stuff was sick.
It was sick. Oh, I'm so jealous of people that like could do that.
Like extreme sports ramp me on a vert ramp at that size would have looked like the inside of a pinball machine like it just would have been but if you could have done it it would have been sick it would have been sick but i did do martial arts till i was 16 so i was what what age did you start martial arts I started when I was young and then the problem was I did different modals different modalities so I started out in like karate I wanted to do so tell the people about Ken Shulman in New York Ken Shulman Taekwondo obviously a Jew Tiger Shulman's was, I just put that together. Shulman.
Of course. Oh my God, that's hilarious.
But Tiger Shulman's, Lion Wasserstein Taekwondo. Tiger Shulman was it.
Like it was the coolest. Like if you went to Tiger Shulman's, they would, it was during the golden age of advertising.
You're watching a fun show. They show all these kids and Tiger Shulman's, and then they convince you to buy some balloon set for $9.99 with no shipping and handling.
It was the golden age. And you'd go into, I never went to Tiger Shulman's, always wanted to.
And if I did karate, it would have been Tiger. But he's a local celebrity.
Like that guy that would teach you guitar. What was his name? I don't remember.
Oh my God. Was Dan something will teach you guitar? I have to look this up.
Well, I did Sado Karate in New York because I went to the YMCA every day after school for after school program. And what? Dan Smith will teach you guitar.
You don't remember this guy? No. Oh, he would put his pictures everywhere.
He was like on every telephone pole in the city. Ah, Dan Smith will teach you guitar.
Dan Smith will teach you guitar. Remember that advertising on poles in the city? Yeah.
It was great. And you cut up 10 different little things at the bottom and you'd rip a phone number.
We were so, we were so clever. So innocent.
So clever. So clever.
So innocent. It was great.
That's what he'd do. Dan Smith.
And he'd write his number and he'd pull a number. Exactly.
Totally. Did you ever take piano? You were obviously musical.
Did you ever take? Did you take piano? Oh yeah. Do you remember? Did you like your piano teacher? Well, yeah, I had a badass Russian, like no holds barred, like worked with Putin at the KGB type Russian piano teacher and he would bring delicious little Russian candies and he was a really good teacher.
But we never had small talk. No, I had I also had like a works with Putin, but she was awful she is the reason why i don't still play piano because she would i i had too relaxed of a hand she wanted me like this and my my wrist hand placement's important but my wrist just didn't bend the way that she wanted my wrists to bend i don't know if she actually slapped my wrists when they didn't get there,

but I recall potentially a ruler

hitting the top of my wrist.

And I'm sure I went home to my mom

and I said, that woman hit me.

And she pulled me.

But I, yeah, you know, teachers are everything.

I loved playing the piano though.

Loved it.

Yeah, man.

I remember my Russian piano teacher

used to take my hand

and he would like hit my he

would hit my leg with it right to like loosen up my wrist and he'd be like you know and he'd be like bum bum bum and then the one thing i didn't like about him was his breath always smelled like he had just had a sandwich like recently and like he probably did what time did you go see him 130 your fault i don Your fault. I don't know, man.
It was something with rye bread and just a fragrant cold cut. This was not your top tier cold cuts.
This was off label. Yeah, man.
Piano and karate was like my big thing. And I just remember like, I remember at one point at 18 years old i got really into kung fu and i was taking kung fu of course you did yeah man i i you know i forget what a weird person i am but i yeah became a orange sash and uh kung fu i don't mean to brag i learned the full monkey it's pretty sick good for you the is, have you ever seen the videos of like, I'm talking like second, third, fourth degree, like black belts and whatever the modality is, right? Like Taekwondo, karate, Kung Fu, try to fight MMA fighters.
No, I've never seen it. It's over.
They get fucked up. They get fucking crushed quick.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because there's like, there's one, unless it's like some, and then, you know, I'll stop talking about it, but I love this stuff. But there's just like one thing to do if you like truly want self-defense.
It's like that or Krav Maga. It's either like figure out a way to snatch out their eyes whilst kicking them in the nuts, or you're going to have to learn like standup game fighting, like you're in the octagon and also how to wrestle and jujitsu to actually be able to protect yourself.
Could you put your hand through a wooden board? Yeah, because those let's look this up. Let's debunk.
Let's do some. Are they, are they, are they breakaway boards? Is that what you that what you're gonna say i think so but what are the boards made of in like there's no way that somebody's actually putting their hand through real mahogany no no no way it would hurt too much it says board breaking is really really easy the key is the boards designed for breaking are cut

they're cut in their weakest orientation wood is incredibly strong going with the fibers

even a pine board is very hard to break long ways using the sledgehammer however if it's cut on its

short axis it's incredibly easy to break wow it's It's just like slicing a nice steak, Josh. It's just like slicing a nice steak.
Always against the grain. Unbelievable.
Speak on it, baby. Look at that.
Speak on that. Look at that.
That's it. Just it's softer when it's against.
It's harder when it's with. That's it.
The same goes for board breaking. So if somebody ever comes up to you and says, I'm going to fucking kill you unless you break this board, always make sure to identify the grain and break against the grain.
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I wanted to ask your opinion on something. During the pandemic, my great friend Storm, that's right, my boy Storm, brilliant photographer, incredible Storm.
Last name Storm or first name Storm? First name Storm Santos. That's sick.
He's the greatest there is. I love him.
Brilliant. I mean, he like photographs a lot of famous people.
I remember early on in the pandemic when all the video game systems were gone because everyone knew that they were going to have to like hunker down and there were just no video game systems to be had. And so I like put up some like Instagram story about it.
And my boy Storm wrote me and he's like, yo, there's actually two Nintendo Switches at my local Target. Like I'm at Target right now.
Do you want me to pick one up for you? And I was like, beautiful. Great.
Grab one. I didn't know.
I didn't know for the end of the world of all I had to do was work on a Nintendo Switch and have a little bit of joy. So I tell him, yes, I, I send him 200 bucks on Venmo and I never ever follow up.
And it's like three years later. So I'm like, I guess it's gone.
But then I realized that I have a son who would love it. Right.
And I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, let me, let me Storm about this.
I'm like, maybe this has it. So I text him and I'm like three years later, you said, hey, are you still on your way from Target? Oh, fuck.
He bought it. I'm like, is this just like in your closet? Because I'll take it.
My kid would like it. What do you say? And he goes, yeah, I have it.
Come pick it up. I was

like, great. So I come pick it up because he's the greatest and we're chatting and he hands it to me

and it's great. And I look at it, it's blue.
And I'm like, is it yellow? I go, I think the one I

bought was yellow. Like the one, the photo he sent me was a yellow one, but I don't say anything.

So I'm like, who cares? Like my son's colorblind. He won't know.
No, he's not, God forbid. And then right as we're about to go, Storm just cut off handily goes, yeah, man, that Nintendo Switch was long gone, but I felt bad, so I just bought that one.
Obviously! Am I fucked up? Did I do the wrong thing? No, no, no, no. You didn't do the wrong thing.
There were wrong things done across the board. Same boy.
He offered to purchase a Nintendo Switch for you. You Venmoed him same day? Same day.
It is then his responsibility as the procurer of the Nintendo Switch to tell you a rendezvous point for the handoff of the Switch. He's received the funds.
You receive your Switch. Now, he should have followed up.
You, though, should have followed up. You Venmo for a Nintendo Switch, and then you don't follow up with the Switch.
And then three years later in the middle of the night, you're like storm has my switch like of course storm doesn't have your switch storm re-gifted your switch that's how he or used it but what i will say the person who really comes ahead in this mr storm yes mr storm did the right thing here this is right i wonder josh cost of inflation over three years, Mr. Storm didn't pay $200 for that new Switch.
He probably paid $260. No, they can't do that.
What? It's not a new Switch. They didn't reconfigure it.
It's not like buying a 2024 car. So you're saying it's cheaper? I'm saying it was the same price.
Inflation, Josh. These costs go up, up these costs go up up up up not on products that already exist no of course they do i'm just saying ask storm for the receipt i bet you he overpaid so and really you owe storm like 30 bucks i don't know but yes storm fine leave it alone storm is the greatest and yeah i just i i realize in hindsight that I'm nuts.
Nuts. That's great though.
I love it. I love it.
No, a more normal thing. Just so we know for next time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A more normal thing.
Hey, Storm, by the way, you mind Venmoing me back that 200 bucks? Oh, that is, ugh, gauche, garish.

No, but you sent 200 bucks.

Send me back 200 bucks

and now you're stuck with an extra switch

that you have to go return?

You assume that he, if he never gave it to you,

you assume that he never bought the switch.

No, he bought it.

He bought, he was like-

But then why wouldn't he want to give it to you?

Now I'm back to it's Storm's fault. Listen, you know how people are.
You know that people are like, if you left your sunglasses at my house, I am not making it my job to get you these sunglasses. 1,000%.
But if you tell me to buy something for you and I paid for it with money that you sent me i am mailing it to your house immediately i don't want it it's not my property you can't mail a switch it's the only way you do it by the way why didn't you buy it on amazon that's gonna be an extra 20 25 dollars why didn't you why didn't you buy it on amazon it was a pandemic ben once in a lifetime everyone had cholera so to clarify you needed to switch so badly that after you've emailed him $200 you forgot about it for three years I just felt good that I had won it was just nice to know I could you got it you won it was pandemic. And then I went to Vancouver for a year to do Turner and Hoots.
I forgot about the Switch. I understand.
He offered. But anyway, I got my Switch and he probably paid an extra $30 in inflationary costs.
And for that, I feel terrible. What was your game of choice? Were you a video game kid growing up? Yeah, no, I played the things.
I had a PS3 and I played Grand Theft Auto and those things, but I was never like, I was very weird. I think I was very alcoholic about the way I played games as a kid, which was I always wanted that booklet that told you how to get ahead in the game.
Cheating. Cheating.
I like to cheat. I like cheat codes.
I never wanted to like struggle in the game i wanted to fly through the thing no but cheat codes are fun like that's why like i loved it i was also a playstation guy i loved like the nba games those are my favorites but like thinking back on it like the most fun was like an nfl blitz yeah or like like nba jam where like they're literally dunking from half court. Like that's so much more fun than realistically playing with a guy.
Oh, yeah. I had friends who played like FIFA and Madden.
I'm like, this is like trigonometry. Miss me on this.
I don't even know how to play. No, it's in no comparison to the old school games like an NFL blitz.
Loved those. Well, there are some stories that I think would be worth us reporting on.
Like in the New York Post, a man dismissed his fat and given Ozempic before doctors find 60-pound tumor in his belly. Doctors were convinced that a Norwegian man was simply fat for 12 years, but his growing belly was actually expanding with a 60-pound malignant tumor.
He was diagnosed with obesity and even got prescribed Ozempic before they discovered the growth, leading to a 10-hour surgery for its removal. Thomas Kraut, 59, had the operation in Oslo after his stomach kept getting bigger, and the doctors initially convinced him that he was

simply overweight. Wow.
Can we rename malignant? There's no way that malignant. I'm just saying malignant sounds far too dark for being not dark.
Malignant is dark. Malignant's bad.
Can we rename benign.

I was like, what?

Benign

sounds way too normal for being

benign? Benign sounds way too normal for being benign. Fuck.
All right. Well, then I'm really sorry that he had cancer.
That's not good. Benign sounds like the first part of a new shul in town, you know, a new synagogue.
Have you been to benign Cedar Sinai? It's wonderful. Malignant.
I knew I got that wrong as I was saying it. All right.
So the guy's really fat. Turns out to be a cancerous tumor.
10 hour surgery. Is there any report? Is he alive? Yeah, no, he's good.
I mean, and the upside is he's got an Osepic prescription, which is not easy to get. No, not easy to get.
A 60-pound tumor. That is insanity.
That's hectic. Oof.
Oof. Sorry, bud.
Yeah. Sorry, friend.
Hope you're feeling better. It's amazing how easy it is for if you're not on top of it and you get you happen to see the wrong doctor or the wrong couple doctors like you really have to unless you're with like people who are super specific and brilliant at what they do you have to be your own advocate and if you're just like i guess'm not gaining weight anywhere else, but maybe they're right.
Like, at what point did they not go like, like, this guy's got a pretty gaunt face. I'm trying really hard not to victim.
I'm really trying really hard not to victim blame the guy with a malignant 60 pound tumor. No, I'm saying the more that I think about it, how don't you know? You're right.
He's chiseled to the gods. His legs are perfect.
He's ripped. He just has a huge belly.
Like, that's a tumor. Unless he was pregnant, but.
Well, did you know that a gym junkie's vain quest for big booty backfires with a Brazilian butt lift leaving a woman rotting from the inside out. She hit rot bottom from New York Post.
Get it together. That's great.
A UK gym bunny's vain quest for a dream derriere nearly killed her after her bottom began rotting from the inside out following a botched liquid Brazilian buttian butt lift the decision to have butt filler

completely and utterly ruined my life charlotte booth 36 told the newspaper which it occurred in may 2023 i was hope oh i just saw a picture of it wow wow wow how bad how bad send it okay I got you it's not, but it's on its way to bad. That's the problem.
It's stopping off at the rest stop before bad to say, let me get my energy together. Send it.
Send it. Need it.
I'm sending it to you too, Olivia. Can you handle it? Yeah.
Oh my. Oh my.
It's a lot. For those that can't see it it looks like mold like like she yeah she's dying on the inside oh my necrosis that's a nice name though right this is my son necrosis that's not horrible you know what i'm just i'm just saying that thing looks malignant not good not good but this brazilian butt lift like i all you hear are bad things it's almost as if we shouldn't be doing them josh yes it's almost as if the butt wasn't meant to be that high it's almost as if it wasn't meant to be a shelf sorry it is what it is all right listen we ask the hard questions here and we got to be okay with it yes oof that picture was chilling raccoon descends from ceiling at new york's la guardia airport a traveler a traveler at new york's la guardia airport captured video when a raccoon descended from the ceiling and caused chaos at a terminal.
The video posted to Hex by user Ahmed Anonymous. What? That's awesome.
Shows the raccoon dangling from a cord suspended from the ceiling in the marine air terminal. Wow.
No good. Raccoons are cute though.
Raccoons are cute. Raccoons are cute.
They look like little thieves. Like they're definitely cute.
I'm with you. Little bandits with like the eyes.
They're fun. They just spent like literally $200 trillion and 15 years on LaGuardia and they already have raccoons coming from the ceilings like this is a problem okay yeah this is a problem yes and what happens is like in our house at night sometimes my wife and i will wake up because we'll be hearing sounds on our roof and i'll be like what the fuck is that and she'll be like there's a varmint there's there's a small creature on our roof walking around like doing it up and i'm like we can't get in right she's like hopefully and i'm like oh god and i'm gonna have to handle it because i'm the man you have to do something about that you have raccoons chilling on your roof could be raccoon could be a mouse could be a rat like it's a creature of the night could be diddy i don't know i i i would move i would bug out if i heard a creature of the night on my roof or just get a sound machine josh or you could do my dad hates these hates these, you know, the little spikes in the city that prevent pigeons from landing.
They make them incredibly sad that you, you want to see a sad man, Bruce Soffer staring at those spikes. He's very like, where do the pigeon, where are the pigeons supposed to rest? That said, you need those spikes on your roof.
I'm not going to put spikes all over my roof. I'm going to look like I live in a penitentiary.
You'll solve the problem and you'll have another one. That sounds terrible.
I got a gossipy neighbor. Yeah, I don't think that's going to work out for me, but I just have to deal with the fact that, I mean, my mother-in-law the other day, they thought that they saw a mouse in her pantry.

It was just a weird light trick that like shined off the peanut butter filled pretzels.

I digress.

But and she is such like she is so much more like outdoorsy, cool, collected than me, like cool with farm work, the whole thing.

But she was like freaked out. She's

like, I'm out of here. If there's a mouse in there and I'm like, it's a mouse.
Like this is upbringing, Josh. This is upbringing.
I had the occasional mouse growing up. It was no big deal.
You I'm assuming had the occasional mouse. It's no big deal.
You hoped for a mouse. If you're not, yes, as opposed to a very scary rat a big fat fat rat no awful awful no no then then you need to give your bed you're sleeping on the trundle if you have a big rat in there they're moving in no good but yeah claudia is petrified of the smallest mouse.

Like, oh my God.

Like, will not sleep in the apartment.

Nothing.

She's like, what if they come on the bed?

I'm like, what if they come on the bed?

They're not coming on the bed.

They're not.

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We'll call an exterminator in the morning.

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Yeah.

No, I get it.

Petrified.

But I am petrified of rats.

Oh my.

Woo.

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Brevity is key. Here's one from Bailey.
Hey, Ben and Josh. This is Bailey.
Big moron here. I have a nuts or not nuts for you guys.
I recently went to the dentist for my biannual cleaning. And when we were done, I made my next appointment.
Didn't take an appointment card because I'm from the 21st century and I put it in my Outlook. And I left and they did not give me a goodie bag.
You know what I'm talking about. The goodie bag that has the extra toothbrush, the mini toothpaste, the chapstick, the floss, the whole thing.

And I felt dumb because I wasn't going to ask for a goodie bag.

I'm an adult.

But am I nuts for expecting a goodie bag or are they nuts for not giving me one?

I feel like dentists have trained us to receive a goodie bag after getting our biannual cleanings since we were children. And now I'm an adult and this is the first time I've never got one.
So let me know, am I nuts or are they nuts? Hope you have a great rest of your day. Bye.
What do we think? You're nuts because you're still thinking about the dental goodie bag, but but it's definitely it's it's definitely a common practice to receive a nice toothbrush, a nice small toothpaste, maybe some mouthwash, maybe some floss, but it's not that serious. I agree.
I think your biggest problem, Bailey, is that you have the name of a four-year-old. So you never grew up.

I mean, can you imagine the nine-year-old lady named Bailey?

Bailey Schwartzman?

Well, Bailey has killed herself.

No, it's very young, you know.

What do you want her to do? Change her name?

I mean, it's a little Bailey Rothstein, you know. What do you want her to do? Change her name? I mean, it's a little Bailey Rothstein, you know.
Bailey has Alzheimer's. That doesn't sound right.
You think her last name is Eve? What? You think her last name is Eve? Bailey Leaf? Bailey Leaf. It's so dumb.
You know what I mean? I know what you mean Bailey broke her hip it doesn't track Bailey's incontinent you know I guess if we're ripping this hypothetical Bailey when she when she said I didn't take the appointment card because it's the 21st century I put it in my Outlook it's like saying because it's in the 21st century I put it in my PC I put it in my Palm Pilot Bailey you it just we're just fooling because of your name we're just goofing you're great bailey you're great bailey god bless you i'm sorry you deserve better and i think if you ask they'll give it to you they ask me after cleaning but they kind of like look at me like do you want it and i'll be like be like, yes, what am I going to say? No. And it's never great.
It's bad. It's usually a small toothbrush and a small it's like travel size.
Right. I don't need that.
Also, honestly, I'm now thinking about it. It's almost insulting to get that goodie bag on the way out.
You think I don't have a toothbrush? Well, and it's just like the idea that the only toothbrush you're getting is every six months at the dentist and i really like my dentist but she's not springing for the good ones how often do you replace your toothbrush josh i happen to have a sonicare which changed my life i was not an electric toothbrush guy wow but. But I am so wealthy.
Whoa. Way to just drop your bag of gold.
I have an electric toothbrush. And I have an espresso.
I'm sorry. I'm doing well.
And what happens is it'll beep every three months when you need a new brush head, which, ooh, by the way, I need to buy more. So I change every three months, but it's an incredible machine.
I'm a big Oral-B guy. Just a classic.
Yeah, I use a regular toothbrush, replace it. I don't know, once every two months, I think, I'll get a new toothbrush.
I just like the firm bristle. There's nothing worse than a

soft bristle. My what are you nuts? I'm sure it's been one before when you go to one of those hotels

and they have the eco-friendly toothbrushes and literally it's like soft horse hair and you're

just like mushing it against your teeth. But there's there's no there like there's no friction.

No good. And who am I telling you that you're clearly the dental professional of the three

I'm not sure. There's no friction.
No good. And who am I telling you? You're clearly the dental professional of the three of us.
And Olivia, feel free to weigh in here. But don't they always tell you soft bristles? Don't they, Olivia? I feel like there's something.
If you use the hard bristles, I think it's bad for your enamel. Or gums.
Yeah, your gums. It can make your gum bleed.
But I am the same way with you, Ben. I got to have a tough bristle.
Otherwise, I feel like my teeth don't get as clean. Let's clarify.
Okay. I'm not talking about needles.
I'm talking about a firm enough bristle to remove plaque. But the soft one does nothing.
Not a brillo pad for the tooth? No, the soft one does nothing.

Nothing.

It's terrible.

Sometimes I'll use the back.

If I'm at a hotel and the bristles that soft,

sometimes I'll just use the back and I'll rub the wood on my teeth.

Tell me, what do you think of the health and wellness people

who say all you need is to brush your teeth?

You don't need toothpaste. I say that you don't care what other people think of your breath because there's two things that you're accomplishing because I've had this thought, Josh.
There are two things that you're accomplishing when you brush your teeth with toothpaste. One is your health and two is your human decency for others.
If you're only concerned with your health, then you don't need toothpaste, I don't think. If you're concerned with the human decency of others and want to have a conversation in close proximity to me, then you're going to need your breath not to smell like the inside of your mouth.
Right. That's what I think.
But do I think that toothpaste actually helps clean your teeth? I don't. I don't.
But I do. Listen, I'm pretty fluoridated.
Like I go, I'm fluoride forward, babe. I believe in it.
I'm with it. Throw it in the water.
Unfortunately, I've been, I've had too much fluoride. I hope everything I read is that fluoride's bad.
I've had so much fluoride, Josh. My parents gave me fluoride treatment on my teeth.
That's probably why I can't remember anything. No, we all, first of all, we all get that.
And if you want, there's a great episode of my friend's podcast, the Jordan Harbinger show. And he does something called Skeptical Sundays, where he'll like debunk timeshares or fluoride or like all these things that,

or like hydrotherapy.

That's when I found out that this whole eight glasses a day thing was a

crock,

but he did one on fluoride and it was fascinating because overwhelmingly

fluoride,

a big positive from what if you,

from what I took away from the podcast is it's like oral health has been

improved dramatically from fluoride. Can you overdo? Of course.
But I think I think we're in a generation, though, where we may have overdone it. We plastered it on our teeth in a coating that just stayed with us forever.
I don't think so. I think you do that treatment when you're a kid and it like lasts a bit.
It's like a

sealant. All I know is I've never

gotten a cavity. That's right

brother. That's right.

All I've gotten is brain damage.

I'm telling you.

Okay here's another one

from. My parents were

thrilled. We're gonna make sure your son

never has cavities but also has half his brain. I'm pretty sure that happened to me too.
Where do I, where do I sign up? Let's listen to Lily. Hi, Josh and Ben.
Huge moron. I love you guys so much.
I was a long distance with my boyfriend for about three years and he just moved to Dallas for law school. So I decided to join him.
Now I found my own place and got a roommate because I thought I could make friends better that way. But the move is really hard.
And I just moved from a place where I had a lot of friends and I really love my job. And I just started a job that I absolutely hate.
I need your advice. What do I do? Do I lean in and try to make the most of it

or can I move back to where I was much happier?

Thanks, love you guys so much.

I've been so lonely here.

I go on walks and listen to you guys

and it feels like we're all having a conversation.

Okay, bye.

Oh my God, folks,

this is how you leave a fucking speak pipe.

Lily, I'm gonna cry.

I love you.

Lily.

I love you.

I love you. Yeah, go Josh.
Yes, Good. That said, Lily, you're fucking up.
Okay. You've been dating a guy for three years.
You move for him and you're not moving in with him. That's right.
This is not good. Lily, not good.
This is not good. And I'm telling you this because we, we love you.
You are, you're, you sound amazing and you don't move for someone. You've been together that long and move in with a friend.
Shit or get off the pot. Say to him, you shouldn't have other things to do.
It shouldn't be your responsibility to find new friends in a new city. You move for your boyfriend.
He should be introducing you to his friends. He should be, he should be including you.
Like this is no good. No good.
First off, let me say, Dallas rips. I have never seen more buffets and more urgent cares in one metropolitan area.
They want you to get fat, fat, fat and get antibiotics easy, babe. Dallas is the shit.
And so it's a great city. You didn't move to a bad city.
But I couldn't agree with you more. You said it perfectly, Ben.
You've been together three years. I can understand if it was like three months and you were like on your stocky era and you just moved to a boy's town.
You just met because you wanted to be closer to him. But it's three years.
You're you're having a rough time because you guys should be living together, which would totally change the dynamic. Yeah, this is actually a very strange story.
And I don't want to like ruin things, Lily, but like the guy, this is no good. This is a red flag to me that he let you move here and you're not living together is weird.
We also, Josh, don't know how old they are. They sound 20s.
Is it possible that they're really, really, really young? Is it possible that Lily's like 20 in law school? Oh, true. He's in law school.
I mean, she can. Okay.
I don't know. But then she would be it.
Olivia, talk. Okay.
Well, actually, so Ethan moved to L.A. first and then I moved about a year later and we didn't end up moving in together.
And we had been together for three years at that point. But it was for a similar reason, because like I'd never lived somewhere other than Cincinnati.
Shout out. And so I wanted to like kind of build my own life.
But he very much included me in everything. And I didn't have to like struggle to make friends and, you know, was able to like build my own life, but also like be very much included in his.
And we live like a mile from each other. So I'm not necessarily like as freaked out by that immediately.
But I do think it's really important to like be included in each other's communities and, you know, feel supported

because that is like a huge move. And if you've been together that long, you know, you need to

feel like secure and safe there. So I don't know.
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It sounded too like maybe he just moved there. So I don't know.
But because if he just started law school, it might have been, you know, but still like, I think they could probably use a little bit of more time together, I can imagine. I just Googled euthanasia near me.
I apologize. I apologize.
Clearly there are other people that are going through this and maybe it's not that strange. But on first reaction, I thought it was quite odd.
Clearly, there are ways where it's not odd because Ethan is fantastic. And I'm sure that this situation is no different.
and what I also have to say is don't let this boyfriend of yours gaslight you that law school is taking up so much of his time. He's not at Georgetown.
You're in Dallas. He's probably going to be in person.
He's going to be an ambulance chaser. He's going to be a personal injury.
So what? He doesn't need to get all A's. Listen, you want to know what a lawyer's called who got all D's in law school? A lawyer.
That's what they're called. A lawyer.
Bingo. Esquire.
Bingo. Yes.
Totally. Hey, have you ever been part of a class action lawsuit? I wish.
I keep getting it up. It'll be Ozempic.
I don't know when, but people be Ozempic title. I'll be involved for sure.
I'll be 60 with one foot. But skinny.
Ooh, baby. Skinny.
You'll be negative buckle fat. Your cheeks will just be like black, like dark matter.
Low. Let's do one more question from Adeline.
Howdy, Josh and Ben. Adeline here.
I have had the opportunity to nurse my baby daughter for a number of months. And I've to donate my excess breast milk and so recently I had someone reach out and said hey I noticed that you are a milk donor you know a great way to continue giving back become a surrogate which leads me to my question with love of male opinion how would you guys feel about your wives becoming a surate? And if you had the opportunity to carry and birth a child, would you? And what's your price? Thanks so much.
Look forward to hearing from y'all. Olivia.
You don't have to answer, Olivia. What the hell am I supposed to say? Do I want to be a a surrogate and how much am I charging for somebody to suck on my teat for life? Like, I don't know.
She's asking just surrogate. She's not asking for you.
She's not asking for me to be a midwife. You would be like the goat milk of mother's milk.
I would be a thousand, literally a thousand dollars an hour would be how much I'd charge for my golden breast milk. So that wasn't what she was asking.
She was asking if I could carry a child, would I carry a child? No. Would you be a surrogate for someone and how much would you charge and how would you feel about your wife being a surrogate isn't a surrogate holding the child no oh you cute kid you're cute what is it a surrogate is so traditionally what it is is that you have a egg from yeah you implant it in the surrogate yeah you implant it in the surrogate yeah so i'm the one holding it that's what i said holding it carrying it yes oh god okay i was right you were you over there no i wasn't holding it in the palm of my hand like a baseball i was holding it in my in my belly yes you're not hiding the sperm combined to just hold the baby oh my god you i I was like, not know what a surrogate is almost gaslit me i was like holy shit you gaslit yourself so is the question if i could carry somebody's child would i yes and how much would you charge okay if somebody really close to me needed it and they couldn't do it themselves, I'd like to think that I would.
I probably wouldn't. There's no price.
I'm out. You're out.
Yeah, I don't want to do it. The emotional connection to having a child and then needing to give them up and going through nine months of that.
But it's not even remotely yours, remember. It's's no part of you you are just the home you probably still feel a connection to the baby coming out of your vajage but it's i would imagine i i can't speak olivia feel free to jump in my mom my mom was a surrogate for my aunt actually which is how my little cousin here.
Just kill me. You have too much life experience.
You have too much life experience. Oh my God.
I'm so glad I didn't answer first. I can't do it.
Olivia. Yeah.
This is incredible. Olivia is a mad genius dog.
She let us answer first. then she said in with I didn't live with Ethan right away.
My aunt had someone's I don't know who what she just said, but we're wrong. We screwed up.
No, I think actually Ben's point was right. Like my mom didn't do it for any money.
She just did it because my aunt had cervical cancer and like couldn't carry a child of her own, but they like moved her ovaries up. So she still had eggs and they were able to like save them.
And then my aunt went or my mom, when she found out that she could have kids and had me, then she's like, oh, I can, you know, carry a baby for you. So, you know, wow.
Yeah, That is, that is beautiful. What a beautiful story.
But

so yeah, I was right. Yeah.
But I agree. I think it's like, gotta be like donating a kidney.
Like

if I'm, if I can avoid it, I'm not doing it. I'm certainly not doing it for money,

but if someone I love needs it, then I'm certainly going to consider it. I think so.
Otherwise, your price, if you're planning on making this a career, right? Which people do. And that's cool.
Yeah, which people do. It would just need to be the cost of like two years salary.
Because you'd need a year where you're just pregnant. But then you want a year to actually more than that.
Because your, three years salary would be what I'd charge. But salary where? Chick-fil-A or Google? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Yeah. Could be 180K, could be 1.8.
Totally. Should we get to our, what are you nuts? Yeah.
We're nuts, by the way. We're nuts.
But yes, we should. We are nuts.
Get out of that head head of yours it's a great episode once i stitch it together no it's an amazing episode i'm just saying we're nuts that's all our what do you know it's moment of the week is our gripes with people places and things whatever's currently sticking in our crop good or bad we write them down during the week and mine this week is you know recently, recently I've noticed, you know, I love to pick up food.

I am a big, I will use the apps, but I will pick up myself because that $30 extra fee for me to drive a mile, no big deal. I'm happy to do it.
But I have noticed, and I give this question to the group here, that people have become really shitty at restaurants to people coming to pick up food because they assume that they work for DoorDash or like they're dealing with people like it's become a true industry now. It's not just like pick up and take out.
Like I imagine that it's added a lot of business to many restaurants. But now when I go in to go pick up my food, they look at me like, what's the name on the order? Like, can I have a listen? Can we have a moment here? What are you nuts? I'm not, you know, we don't all work for the food delivery companies, but also maybe be nice to them, too.
I don't know. I don't know these DoorDash drivers, but kind of made me think, what are you nuts? I was going to say there's multiple what are you nuts is in there.

Number one, be nice to the fucking DoorDash drivers.

OK, it's a hard ass job.

And for sure.

And to be nice to Joshie, who just spent $250 on a very mediocre steak that he's going to

bring home.

Be nice.

OK, I'm at CPK.

I just bought like 13 apps.

You know, pay it forward.

Also, can you also can we make delivery food good again? Like? Like, can that happen? Like, it's not good anymore. Like, every time I order in, the food's getting worse and worse and worse.
And then I go to a restaurant for the same food, and I'm remembering how much better the food can taste. I'm just saying, takeout's going downhill, Josh.
I think it's just too, it's too many, like too many people are doing it, and they just can't keep up. I don't know if you have that same experience, but my takeout's been terrible lately.
Preach on it. If anyone can do it, Trump can.
Oh yeah. I heard that.
Make food good again. Okay.
My what are you nuts is I picked up a couple slices of pizza. Me and Claudia, we were having a chill night.
Isn't that nice when you can just pick up a couple of slices? A couple of slices. I'm eating a slice on my walk home.
That's a What Are You Nuts for me, but that's the way that I operate. I can't hold food.
I can't hold food and not eat it. I can't hold food and not eat it.
Me either. It's not possible.
Disgusting. I need a snack for my walk.
Of course. Absolutely.
So maybe that's my What Are You N my second what are you nuts. Pounding the face on 3rd Avenue.
Holding the box like this and the slice like this. Oh my God.
I'm walking down the street and there's a woman who passes by. She's like, how can you be eating that in front of me? I'm on my way to the gym.
Now all I want is pizza. Hey, lady, what are you nuts? I don't know you.
Why are you talking to me? Like, what do you, you think I owe you something? I shouldn't be eating on the street because you stranger are going to the gym. I was so floored.
Like, what are you nuts? People are so weird. People are so strange.

Yeah.

Leave it to yourself.

I hope that lady had an awful workout.

She probably, I hope she went and got a whole pie of pizza

and gained 80 pounds and is just like a fat, fat fuck.

I hope she pinched a nerve.

I hope she tried CrossFit and blew out her knee. Okay, take us home.
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