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Mazlemorons, welcome back to the Good Guys Podcast.

Ben, how are you?

I'm wonderful, my friend.

How are you?

Hampton Harry over there.

Yeah,

it's pretty sweet.

This is the summer of Ruby, Josh.

This is, look, when you're a city boy and you have a city kid,

you need greenery.

You need places to walk where you're not afraid that the guy in the corner is going to throw his needle and it's going to hit him in the leg or something.

You need fresh air.

No needles in sight.

We're walking nice.

I know you love a good walk.

We're walking everywhere.

Okay.

I'm getting in my steps.

Beautiful breeze in my hair.

He loves, he loves a good breeze.

I think all babies do, but him in particular, my God, he'll sleep forever if he just walks and walks and gets the breeze in his hair.

It's fantastic.

Imagine God came down and said,

I can give you an accessory baby, right?

Like beautiful Ruby will grow into the beautiful man that he will always be, but I can give you a baby that always kind of stays a baby and enjoys a breeze and they're sleep trained.

So it comes around four and a half months, but they sleep most of the day and you can just roll them.

I would take that.

Okay.

Yeah, just a permanent baby.

A pet baby.

Okay.

That'd be fun.

It's honestly, it sounds fun.

So you're telling me sleeps through the night.

Yes.

So you get get your sleep eating solid foods or

just formula breasts, like milk or just milk.

Like a hamster.

Like, it turns over and it's been by the way.

As long as it's not Ruby, because I need to see what happens to him.

As long as it's just like another, I'm down.

Sounds fun.

They're so cute.

They're so cute.

You really got to get in between those creases, though.

Oof.

It's tough.

I told you that I, under his armpit, it was smelling like cheese.

Sure.

You don't know.

Like you have to rip up their arm.

They don't want to lift it.

You have to really

get in there and clean.

So I would want the baby would need to be completely clean.

Okay.

Have you smelled his fists yet?

Does he hold fists a lot?

Give it a month.

I haven't smelled it.

I haven't smelled it.

No.

But we're giving him a nightly bath.

Regal.

Yeah.

Okay.

You're in for a stench, a funk.

You want to talk cheese?

Yuck.

Roquefort, my boy.

Yucky.

Okay.

I didn't know we're at the south of France in the middle of West Hollywood.

Oh, I just sniffed my son Meyer's fist

because

they're clenched all day.

And we lost all our French listeners.

By the way, we have none.

Okay.

There's no crossover.

Do you want the came bear?

No, I want the baby fist.

You're the baguette, baby fist.

Nice up.

Oh, man.

Yeah, babies are just so they're really special.

They're gorgeous in this age is priceless.

That said, I'm very excited to see.

I want to see him smile.

I want to see him talk.

I think you feel that way because you have him walking and talking.

Sure.

I like, I need to see what happens next.

i'm on like episode one season one of a freaking crazy just unbelievable series how long do i take this this

what do you okay i lost my train of thought what do you call the uh what analogy

i was like how deep do i take this analogy but yeah i'm excited to just like see more of ruby but i'm loving taking him everywhere today we went to king cullen okay the grocery store i wheeled him through the aisles picked up a couple of things you know josh we're deep in fork of July.

I don't know if you know that, but this is the month.

This is the month of the fork and we are making recipes, cooking up a storm.

There's nothing like my happy place is cooking outside.

Like, that's why it's a Shanda that I don't live in the suburbs because I could do this every day as opposed to just two months out of the year.

But my happy place is shopping.

and cooking something outside.

Not even on the grill.

Like I just cook everything outside.

I'll chop outside and then I'll cook inside.

But as much time as I can spend with food outside, it's my happy place.

I'm dying to know the hypothetical of

if, let's say, your parents and

basically everybody moved to Florida, like your closest family moved to Florida and you were in the city.

10 times a year for business trips and whatnot.

It's an easy hop two and a half hours to the city from Boca or wherever, you know, south of Florida.

Is that, I see you in that scenario.

You love golfing.

You love cooking outside.

I know New York is your,

I know it is a part of your identity.

And I also know you're convinced it's a part of your identity, but I also wonder quality of life if you could let it go.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't want to talk about it because it sends me down a hellhole, but like depending on the way that this election turns in New York, I could seriously have to think about moving.

So we, I'm thinking about it for the first time in my life.

I don't want to do it.

I really don't.

The city materially changes.

It will make it significantly easier.

That said, if my parents don't move, I probably still won't move.

It's really my parents.

I don't want to be without them.

I don't want them to see Ruby 10 times a year.

I don't like that.

Like, it's the same thing with my sister.

If everybody I loved said we're moving to Florida, I would move to Florida.

I would move anywhere that everybody I loved moved.

Let's play this fun game because I know that you and I could both crush it.

Olivia, feel free to jump in.

Let's throw out random cities because I love one of the great Rombie Hoffman, one of her favorite lines of mine that I love, because I hate when people are proud where they're from.

When she goes, everywhere's a dump.

You just pick your dump.

Okay.

And I agree.

I can find something wrong with everywhere.

So let's throw out.

I'll throw out a place.

And then you can crap on it and move on to the, we'll just, we'll just ping pong.

Love it.

Okay.

Love it.

So let's go.

So

I'll give you an easy one.

New York.

Too expensive.

Yeah.

Too dirty.

Got it.

Give me one.

Give me one.

Portland.

Portland, Oregon.

I knew you were going to say that.

Rainy.

So rainy.

What?

It is.

Depression.

Pacific Northwest.

Saw the rain.

Okay.

Okay.

Here's one.

Sydney, Australia.

Haven't been and it looks unbelievable.

I would say that for me, the flight's a little bit too long.

Too far.

24 hours.

What do you end up?

But if I lived there, it seems seems lovely.

Giant spiders, giant snakes, things everywhere, crawling in your house.

What do you do about that?

I don't want to deal with that.

That's my problem.

Yeah, 100%.

By the way, I haven't even thought about the creepy crawlers.

They're huge.

Can't live there.

And gross.

Can't live there.

No good.

This is what happens if you live in the tropics.

No good.

Crazy.

No good.

Okay.

Okay.

Humid bugs.

Yeah.

Please.

Paul Wall driving around all the time.

Not a lot of access to healthy food, I would imagine.

Totally.

You know what Charles Barkley says about the women of San Antonio?

What?

Have you seen those clips?

You're lying.

Oh my God.

I have to send them to you.

He just thinks that the women in San Antonio are morbidly obese.

He talks about it all the time on air.

On air.

He's like, literally on air.

He'll just like randomly transition to, yeah, those women in San Antonio.

You know, the women in San Antonio

are enormous.

The only spur I see is on their way to go get

a sharp.

You have to look.

A charcuterie board.

You have to look this up.

He does it on TNT.

It's unbelievable.

Oh, man.

All right, I'll give you one more.

Yeah, we'll do beautiful.

And it's more fun when you pick like beautiful places.

Than intentionally picking dumps.

Yeah, a beeza.

A beeza.

Oh, wow.

It seems fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.

Just like, give me a magic pill and let me dance the night away.

What could be bad about a beza?

I guess dying of an overdose.

Yeah, fair enough.

Yeah, that would be the downfall.

Death.

Bubbles everywhere because all those foam parties.

Death.

Oh, man.

What about Monte Carlo?

Prohibitorily expensive.

Lots of cars spinning really fast around that racetrack and the yachts are all there.

I don't want to get hit by a car.

It's going to a restaurant.

Noise pollution from F1.

Imagine jaywalking in Monte Carlo.

That's a witty nuts.

Yeah.

Holy smokes.

Has anybody ever been arrested for jaywalking?

Is this just like a big fear?

I was detained.

I actually think I know.

I think I know the story.

Yeah, and I've tried to fake an asthma attack and he wasn't hearing it.

Yeah, that's that cop is just like having a bad day.

That's a terrible ticket to get.

Terrible.

I'll tell you another fun police story.

My son was first kindergarten class.

They got a tour of our local police department and it was super fun.

And so we go and I was one of the chaperone dads and I'm with another one of my favorite dads.

So the best part of the tour was, you know, they're giving the kids a tour of all the police station and the cars and

everything.

And then they go through the gear that they carry on their body.

Like, this is our vest.

This is a flashlight.

This is a radio.

And then they get to the firearm and it's a great teaching moment, right?

Teach kids about gun safety.

Like, this is our firearm and this is what police officers carry.

And if you ever come in contact at your own house, at a friend's house and you see a gun, what should you do?

And one of the kids puts his hand up and goes, pick it up and fire it.

I was like, someone get that kid in an after-school program.

The cops were like, no, no.

What?

What do you mean?

How old is this kid?

And please, what is his name?

Six.

I don't know.

Little Ricky.

I don't know.

Oh, my God.

That is hysterical.

What does he look like?

Does he have like a little mullet, like a gap in his teeth?

Fire!

And fire it!

Just like my daddy is doing 25 to life.

It was so good.

I was like, oh,

that is hysterical.

So good.

Honestly, when somebody says, what do you do with a gun?

A normal, like, pick it up, use it.

Like, i i kind of get it like what do you mean put it put it in the drawer like if you say to the kid what are you supposed to do with a bicycle ride it like

so it's it's good that he's learning thank god wow that is hysterical what are you nuts total what are you nuts

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Okay, so tell me about the Hamptons.

You guys are going to be cooking.

You guys are going to be doing all the things.

When are we going to take Ruby to the beach?

I want those little Tootsies in the beach in the sand.

We're going to farmers market it up.

We just got here yesterday.

So

the summer is just beginning.

Weather is a little bit rainy.

The second it gets nice and sunny.

He's going right to the beach, putting those toes in the sand.

The farmer's market.

It's just so kid-friendly.

You guys need to, I know you'll never come, but like, you need to come for like a week.

Oh, I would love to.

It would be great.

And like, it's just so, it's, it's so kid-friendly.

And maybe it's just in juxtaposition to the city.

But like, to be able to be outside and it's not, there's not so many people.

Like, I'm not worried worried about him getting sick because he's, it's, everything's done outdoors.

Yeah.

Cooking, farmers markets, like little play, playground areas for Jackie's kids.

Like, obviously, Ruby's too little for that.

But yeah, it's just, it's just amazing.

And it's amazing.

You are sharing a house with Jackie and her husband?

Yeah.

Now, what's the underwear policy there?

Are we going full Sinai West?

I'm not sure.

I was full Sinai West this morning.

so

but nobody else is.

I think this is just me.

This is me.

Like I am.

I'll apologize up front.

If you share a house with me, you're going to see me in my underwear.

Never shirtless.

Okay.

I'm not walking around provocatively, but black briefs just feel like shorts.

What's the difference, Josh, between black briefs and what I'm wearing right now?

Because I can see the outline of your hog.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

But they're not that tight.

These are like loose cotton i don't wear any tight spandex oh please

olivia fairly loose

young ethan and you are sharing a wonderful vacation home with his parents or yours

and ethan comes out in his undies good morning everyone what are we having eggs and skyline chili

Are you pulling Ethan to the side and going, what the fuck

are you doing in your underwear, Ethan?

It's my mother.

First of all, I don't think he would ever be caught dead doing that.

He's the son of a teacher and he's so nervous.

So if anything, well, I wouldn't do that either, obviously.

I don't know.

No, of course not.

I would pull him aside and say, hey, you know, maybe, maybe let's revisit this.

I totally, I totally get that it's not right for everyone.

If my brother-in-law walked out in his underwear, I would say, what are you fucking nuts?

Put on some pants.

That said, this is just me.

Like, I'm an interesting cat.

I do interesting things.

And I think that probably when I met them over a decade ago, the first time I did that, they were probably like, oh, that's weird.

And now it's just like, that's Ben.

Like, Ben is just Ben.

He's an oddball.

I don't even think about it.

Like, I just like, I leave the room in my underwear and my shirt.

Like, I just, that's it.

You're wild.

Same thing with the nurses i am wild for sure wild like yeah i mean like

we live five minutes from page's parents so it won't be odd maybe once a week where they'll come over in the morning sometimes like on a weekend they'll come and like take the kids out for pancakes in the morning or they'll come over especially now right her mom's coming and helping with the boys because we've got three You don't want to see my little thick tree trunk legs scamper up those stairs so quickly when I hear Stacy coming.

I run up those stairs and I throw on shorts.

I go the idea of Stacy seeing the outline of my

hose.

I get it.

Of my blaster.

I get it.

Of my Hebrew national.

I absolutely get it.

It was ashamed that I would bring this good Sacramento woman.

I could never.

I absolutely get it.

I get it.

That said, I'm not changing for anyone.

What if Claudia was like, this, it's so funny.

What was Claudia's thought about you going out to the nursing station in your underwear?

That was Paige's first question.

She definitely mentioned it one time.

She's like, can you put on a shirt?

I'm like, oh, yeah, I should do that.

Because I was literally walking out like just in my underwear.

I didn't make it past the door.

She's like, put on a shirt.

I'm like, okay.

She's like, are you wearing socks?

I'm like, no, I can't find them.

That was, those were the questions.

You walked barefoot.

You walked barefoot.

Yeah, I was barefoot.

I was barefoot in the hospital.

I was barefoot.

You're a perfect person.

I was

barefoot.

Wow.

Barefoot?

And like, when I tell you, I literally, I bought a $150 air mattress that I never opened.

And like, I prepped.

And I, I just, I was so delusional.

I didn't know where any of my things were.

I packed a bag.

I didn't know where my shirts were, my shorts, my socks, nothing.

I just love that you were at one of the best hospitals in New York on the Upper West Side.

And then there was another guy at a Ramada in Wichita who was about to leave his room and said, let me put on shorts and shoes.

And you said, man, let me take them off.

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Oh, this one grinds my gears.

Big fan of your podcast and the toast.

I will try to make it brief.

My husband's cousin eloped at the end of 2024

and they said they didn't want all the drama of a wedding.

They have a large family.

Everyone's very opinionated.

Well, turns out they changed their mind and the wife feels like she missed out on all of the wedding activities and celebrations.

And now they are going to be throwing a reception in October of this year, which is their one year anniversary.

And I'm calling to figure out, is it rude to not buy them a gift?

It's a fairly casual reception.

They're not doing a ceremony.

They registered for gifts, $200 plus.

And the reception is going to be light appetizers in a pizza truck.

So let me know your thoughts.

Oh, boy.

It's, yeah, this is...

It's weird to know the menu before you go to a...

Like, why do you know exactly what they're serving?

That's kind of strange.

Well, because they're close, but it's weird to use the menu to justify being a cheap skate and not buying them a gift.

You obviously have to get somebody a gift if you go to their wedding.

Otherwise, don't go.

And by the way, you don't have to get something from the registry.

Like, if you really want to get them something cheaper, that said, $200

to a wedding.

I, like, that's why Josh is qualifying with the pizza truck.

She's like, this is a cheap affair.

Like, I shouldn't need to pay $200.

But unless you don't have $200,

$200 is a very like less than baseline wedding present.

If people in your life were eloping, but you knew and it wasn't some secret, wouldn't you try to buy them something, even if they never had a party?

I would.

And you know, it's funny.

I actually, I have a friend, a close friend who ended up just like, he just got married one day.

It was a tiny ceremony, like 10 people.

And I never got him a present.

And I should have.

And I probably will now.

That's something also that out of the blue I will do.

I'll remember something from four years ago.

I'll act on it.

I feel like most people won't do that.

I will.

If I forgot to respond to a text, I'll respond.

If I forgot to get a wedding present, I'll send it.

Can I use this podcast to fulfill some of my neuroses real quick?

And I apologize in advance.

Speaking of four-year-old gift, I've been guilty of that too.

And I will say this.

My wife, and don't worry if this is breaking a HIPAA violation, just scoot right into my DMs.

My wife, you know, a transport team takes you or a transport person.

It's the guy who wheels your, your wife, your pregnant wife downstairs with the baby to put in the car to leave the hospital.

The Great Cedar Sinai, as I mentioned, amazing nurses, amazing hospital.

Thank you again.

And so I was a little famished as our people.

Wait,

you were wheeled?

Paige was wheeled down in a wheelchair.

I wasn't wheeled.

I asked.

I'm just letting you know.

Claudia walked down.

I held Ruby.

Nobody escorted us.

No way.

Zilch.

Zilch.

Continue.

Yeah, I guess I just know that from like movies and LA hospitals.

Weird, right?

You assume they're wheeled, right, Olivia?

Yeah, I would assume that.

For sure, they just had surgery.

They just had surgery.

And you'd also want to assume that like the nurse is like checking on the baby getting in the car for the first time, I would think.

Well, they have these transport guys that wheel.

you know, the mom and the baby.

And so, of course, I ran to go get the car and make sure it was all air-conditioned and waiting for them.

And then I went to the, we couldn't figure out.

We like got confused on the exit.

So I'm like rolling around and I don't want her outside.

So I'm like trying to find it.

Anyway, I find, so I finally found her and I'm getting the baby strapped in and her.

And the guy was like, all right, have a great day.

And I was like, thank you so much.

And he left.

And I don't know, but you know me.

I like to wax people.

I like to give them a little scratch.

And then, of course, I'm already feeling a little like, oh, crap.

I didn't give him like, you know, just a little bit of money to say thanks.

And people might say, what are you nuts?

This is a hospital.

People get paid salaries.

You know, it's not like a, as service basically i just who's gonna say no to to a crisp 20 agreed and then my wife in the right home she goes you know that guy was so lovely she said he he helped me with this he helped me with that so now i'm i'm caving in

my

my neuroses is off the charts so i don't know how to find i was like do you remember his name she's like no if you were the guy who was on the transport team at cedar sinai and you wheeled my wife feel free to dm me and give me your cash app I want to send you a little bit of dough.

And at this point, you're getting more.

I feel bad.

And I feel like there should be a penalty.

I'm sorry.

And I just want to, I want to give you some scratch.

Thank you for being so nice to Meyer and my wife.

You shouldn't feel bad, but it's nice that you feel bad.

I'm saying you shouldn't feel bad because this is definitely not a normal tipping occasion.

I don't think he expects to be, but it's lovely.

It's lovely.

I have a similar but more unfortunate story.

So we got to the house and Monday is our trash pickup, right?

Sure.

And I want to get in with the trash guy, okay, early because if you're not in with the trash guys out here, you got to break down the boxes.

I don't want to break down boxes, all this stuff.

So I go.

I meet him.

I gave him 20 bucks.

I'm like, thank you so much.

I'll see you next Monday.

He takes the 20.

He's like, oh, they'll send somebody else next Monday.

What are you, nuts?

What are you, nuts?

I thought it was you.

I thought it's me and you all summer long.

And it's not.

It's not like he's going to go and share that with the next guy.

No, you're going to be peeling 20s.

So now what do I do?

But I'm peeling 20s for what, Josh?

If they're never coming back on just the hopes that he does make a round trip, how do I know it's not going to be eight different guys in eight weeks?

That would be odd.

I agree.

I thought it was odd that it wouldn't be him.

Doesn't he have a root?

Yeah.

He has no root.

You have no root?

He has no root?

You're rootless.

You know, I feel bad for him.

He has no root.

He has no root.

He's willy-willy.

He's picking up left and right.

He has no root and he has no

regular roots.

So taking my 20.

No morals.

Don't take my 20 with no root.

Christmas, he's getting nothing.

I think this lady from the speak pipe going all the way back is a real cheap skate.

I think you're using that it's a kind of casual party to justify not getting like a close person in your life, a wedding gift that you honestly should have gotten when they got married, whether they were eloped or not, but especially now.

Agreed.

Very strange.

Very strange.

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Okay, this next one is from Natalie.

Hi, good guys.

My name's Natalie.

Calling in because I would love a male opinion.

So my husband is very into lingerie.

I'm talking about multiple outfits every time that we have sex.

And I'm just wondering, are all men really that into lingerie?

I sometimes feel like it's just an unnecessary step.

He tries to tell me it's it's like, you know, beautiful packaging, but wondering your thoughts and opinions, because to be frank, I'm over it, but wondering if I'm the crazy one or if he's the crazy one for being so into it.

Take care.

I do think though, there's something like, it's both sleazy and nice at the same time.

Like him wanting her to wear lingerie.

is like he wants to be really excited by his wife.

But I guess in the back of my head, it's also like, if she's not doing that, or do you have like a wandering eye like if she doesn't wear a lingerie and change multiple times a night like are you no longer attracted to her and like what about right okay how about this what if there was something you liked a position a thing sure that your person just said I don't want to do that for you anymore like and it was reasonable right like it wasn't you know i need you to hang upside down like would you kind of feel like but i'd feel yeah i'd feel bummed i'd feel bummed Okay, so looking at it like that, I would say that multiple outfit changes, though, Josh?

This isn't cirque de Soleil.

Like, this is the ostracize.

This is her bedroom.

Like,

she's doing a quick change.

Yeah.

She has someone healthy.

She's like David Blaine.

He's like, all right, you're going to change quickly, but I don't want to see that you change, Presto.

I'm waiting, babe.

Shit.

Shit.

Shit.

Come in.

Come in, baby.

I think the guy's nuts.

Yeah.

But if he likes it and you don't mind, I think a singular outfit is lovely.

I think the suggestion of a piece of lingerie is almost better.

Not even lingerie, but just like a well-placed little like pop of undies here and there, like over the waistline, just to remind you, like what lurks underneath.

It's like fantastic, lock a lock nest monster, but fun.

It's like me when I wear my undies over my hips,

but you don't hide them.

Yeah, she's she's like, I can't wait to see what's underneath those gildings from Amazon.

Buy it now,

six pack for 24.

Oh my gosh.

Let's hear from Haley.

Hi, good guys.

Okay, I know you like your brevity.

So here's my what are you nuts?

AI generated or chat GBT assisted apologies or just big important messages with someone you're dating or any friendship, any relationship whatsoever.

People and other big Instagram accounts of this being caught where they forget to

delete the part where it says like, hey, I can refine it to be a different tone if you like,

etc.

And I've also had this happen to me recently.

I was very upset with someone I was seeing because I did not feel respected.

I felt misled about something that's neither here nor there.

But then they decided to rectify that lack of respect and, you know, me feeling misled by trying to trick me into thinking that a robot's apology was their apology.

And even more nuts, when I asked them point blank, they admitted it.

Like, wild to do, but also wild to not take to your grave.

Wild to be honest.

Wild.

Wild.

Yeah, no, well, yeah, by the way, that's what he annuts that he was, that she had an issue with him being honest.

And no one ever says it's neither here, but it is there.

No, sorry.

Before we jump in, Josh, you're in a room.

It's you, a woman named Haley, and a woman named Lee.

And you're trying to say hey to Lee.

I get where you're coming from.

I do see that.

I'm just saying, it's very confusing.

Haley, who am I talking to?

This kid needs more sleep.

So dumb.

So dumb.

Haley.

Chat GPT is incredible for, I love using it to clean emails.

We've spoken about it.

If I need it to like jumpstart my brain, it's great.

I think that using it for heartfelt messages is very bizarre because it's not your heart.

Like chat GPT doesn't know the way you're feeling.

So if you were to write like, hey, I did this, I did that, blah, blah, blah, write me a message that seems sincere.

It just, it's not sincere at all.

It completely defeats the purpose of the apology that you were sending.

So I think it's a complete what of you nuts.

The only thing that I could see being fine is like you run it through it to spell check.

Like that's great too.

You can literally put in your message and say, hey, remove grammatical errors or make sure everything's spelled right in case like me, you don't know how to spell separate, separately.

And you always end up putting the E in the wrong place.

Is it for grammar?

I'm that way with received.

I'm like, here it comes.

I see it coming.

Yeah, where's the, it's the I before E except after C, but you can't seem to remember it when you're actually writing the word.

And ChatGPT, if you wrote it, they would write it properly for you.

The fact that this person didn't delete the question from ChatGPT is crazy.

Also, though, the fact that ChatGPT, when you press the copy button, they should not be copying.

their part of the message.

I don't have his side of it.

I didn't talk to him.

I only have your side of it.

And I talked to you.

This is going to hurt.

You sound like an intense person.

I would almost go as far to say, as you sound like a lot.

And the nature of relationship-type talks are intimidating, especially for dumb boys, which we are, especially when we're young and we don't have a lot of experience, or some might say, precedence to pull from.

And thus,

I do not feel bad about this guy trying to use the most cutting edge tools to deal with you.

Like,

he doesn't want to upset you.

He doesn't want to hurt.

I mean, I feel like you leaned on the wrong parts of the story, which was

he did it.

He was honest, and which was a turn off.

And he used AI to take responsibility.

Right.

For something that she felt misled about, which is fair and honest.

Like, it's not like he said, it's not like the prompt was, hey, use the most Vengali trick deck manipulative strategies in which

to get her to not only not be mad at me anymore, but give me her social security number.

Like, that's when you go, but you literally, how sweet is that?

Like, hey, AI, I don't know how to properly tell this girl my bad.

Can you help me do it in a way that sounds really honest?

I just don't want to hurt her or upset her.

Did he use it to break up with her?

I forget if she said that.

I don't think so.

It was just like an apology, like it's somebody that she's with.

Yeah, I mean, or they're dating, and she felt misled.

And it sounds like he was taking responsibility.

He just used AI's help.

If you are using it to break up with somebody, I would say that it's still certainly better than ghosting.

And a lot of guys do that.

Guys, guys, stink.

Like, guys are just the worst.

I can't tell you how.

Like, I I have so many friends that just used to stop texting girls.

It's like, what are you doing?

Is ghosting becoming more equal, Olivia?

I think people do it on both sides for sure.

I think that the lack of clarity that that creates is just like not cool in any circumstance.

Whether it's like even like a friendship or something, I don't know.

I think like there's some things that can be left unsaid, but I don't know.

It's definitely more equal, though.

I see it with men and women.

My dad goes, can't relate.

Just kidding, he's dead.

He can't say anything.

The king of ghosting.

Literally.

He is a ghost.

Who's literally ghosting?

Sometimes I'm sad Jews don't believe in hell.

You are fucking kidding.

Oh my God, that's hysterical.

Oh, man.

Oh, you had a vacation home?

I heard about the vacation home from me.

You had a lifelong vacation from me.

I know where my siblings are.

I'm going to ruin your legacy.

Yeah, you better pull a favor.

You better strike me down with lightning because I'm going to ruin it.

Oh, my God.

It's so good.

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This is a long, happy, long episode for you, you morons.

Mazzle Morons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast.

I'm sitting here staring at two beautiful men.

I'll let Ben do the intro, but the truth is we are in a new studio that looks kind of like the set of the Maury Povitch show.

The results are in, we're all the fathers.

Yes, we're all fathers.

I'm sitting here with the great Deuce McBride.

We have a lot of Nick Nick fans that listen to this pod.

I'm born and bred, New York.

Josh is born and bred, New York.

He left us for Los Angeles like a dweeb.

But tons of Nick's fans, but more importantly, tons of, tons of fans of dads.

You have a, you told me a 12, 12-day old daughter.

So you're in the thick of it right now.

Yeah.

You're in the thick of it.

Are you sleeping?

Not much.

Not much.

Not a lot of sleep.

Yeah.

Not a lot of sleep.

It's crazy, right?

Crazy.

It's crazy.

Did you get a night nurse?

No.

So it's just you and your wife.

Yeah.

And her family's here.

My family came up so it's been nice for them to help and they want to help so it's yeah it's been easier but we've been we've been taking a lot of a lot of sleepless nights and yeah not many meals yeah so i did the same we did just me and my wife we did it of course like families around to help if we need them even though my wife hates having people in the house so it's really just been us and it's a crazy adjustment you're you're waking up every two hours really and yeah i haven't had a i haven't had a full night's sleep in like five and a half weeks.

So if we sound groggy, it's because we are.

Okay.

Yeah.

Cut us some slack.

I first, I'm not going to cut you slack with that intro.

Not good.

Not good enough.

Not good.

Okay.

You kind of skirt over the fact that we have an elite marquee athlete in our midst.

And he's an author.

He's an author and a dad.

He's a dad.

So he's all the things.

So he's an unbelievable, unbelievable basketball.

Once in a generation,

you're sitting with, Mr.

McBride.

first question, are you truly 6'2, 195?

And what's it like to be at my goal height and weight?

I'm a little heavier than 195.

I'm probably like 210 now.

That's probably my rookie weight.

But no,

it's taking me a lot of places, this athletic body of mine.

He looks, he's Svelte, Josh.

Svelte.

Built.

Can you imagine?

Because you're 6'2, Ben.

I think he's 195.

Are we the same height?

I'd say so.

Yeah, so whenever you call me on it, I'm 6'2.

Okay.

That's enough.

Yes, and I'm 6'5.

And you like try to make me sound like I'm a 5'7 little squeak you could throw into a swimming pool.

I just think you're like 5'11 and three quarters, but it's fine.

I'll give you 6 feet and it's fine.

Totally out.

It's fine.

I'm 6'2.

You're 210.

I'm at my goal weight right now of 240, zero muscle.

I was 285.

When, Josh, a year ago?

Before I discovered a gorgeous injection called Ozempic.

Two years ago.

Was it two years ago?

Two years ago.

Yeah, because I remember we were going, you were in LA and you swore me me to secrecy when we were eating dinner at catch and you looked at me and you were literally like this.

You see how little I'm eating?

Yeah, it's such a Jewish question.

It's just like so life-changing.

Like if I was this weight in high school, I loved playing basketball.

Like I'm like the quintessential Jewish three-point marksman.

You put me in the corner.

I'm drilling all day long, but just like a little too fat to play.

Like that was just like my thing.

I was like a nice three-on-three.

He'd catch me during lunch at the park.

Okay.

Like for teams, it just wasn't happening for me.

But if we had Ozempic back then, Josh, who knows?

Maybe I would be playing for the Knicks.

Yeah.

You really, I could see that for you.

I totally could.

Would you be comfortable showering naked amongst dudes?

I wouldn't.

It's tough.

Then, no.

Now I go to, like, not Equinox because Equinox, you never know what's going to go on over there.

We should probably cut that out.

But

you don't fuck with my free membership.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

I'm sorry.

Honestly, I have to assume that the Equinoxes in L.A.

are very similar to the Equinoxes in Soho.

Things are crazy over there.

It's not just Equinox, so unfortunately, or fortunately, fine, or fortunately,

at most gyms, like there's going to be some dudes cruising.

Cruising for a time.

They're going to cruise.

They're going to cruise.

Yeah.

Yeah.

At a gym near me.

We're trying to go in, not fully set up in the membership system yet, but they weren't letting anybody in in general because apparently there's

couple having intercourse in the hot tub.

No, unbelievable.

Yeah.

In the hot tub.

You work out a planet for

fitness, Mr.

McBride.

It's too much.

It's too much.

It's a nice gym.

Yeah.

And for sure.

For sure.

As an elite basketball player, obviously I'm sure you have to be careful.

playing outside of the league, but are you ever tempted to roll up to an LA fitness?

I'm not even talking about like a Rucker Park.

I'm talking about a bunch of Joe Schmo's who think they're the greatest ever and just be like, let me show you what it means to play basketball, boys.

Without a doubt.

You know, do you ever do it?

I don't.

I don't look at, you know, what fans say about me and things of that nature, but my family does.

So every time they say a little this or that, I always think like, if I showed up at any regular gym, if the, if a G League player showed up at any regular gym, I mean, it's night and day.

Not that close.

I mean, it's a whole different world.

Who's the worst at dabbing on the Knicks?

Like, do you judge a man by a dab?

A dab?

Yeah.

Is there anyone who's bad at handshakes, bad at high fives?

You know, they just miss it.

Bad at handshakes.

Oh, man.

No, actually,

I would say as a team, we weren't great at handshakes.

We didn't have probably like any handshakes.

And then, you know, shout out.

Mikel and Cam, who got the whole team.

We got a whole pregame of handshakes going on before every game now.

I mean, everybody has a handshake with everybody, which is cool.

It just seems like there's just great camaraderie.

Like, you guys, like, it's a great, it's a great locker room.

People love each other.

Like, is that, that's the way that it is?

Like, there's, it's, it's awesome.

That's great.

What about, okay, so you get to the locker room, right?

This is what the people want to know.

And you have your little, you know, you have your locker.

It's kind of a cubby.

All right.

It's what it's okay.

Here we go.

I'm like, where's it going?

I love it.

What is the level of nudity in the locker room?

Because I would be like leaving the towel wrapped around my waist and doing this move.

You know, I'd be like, Great, keeping it.

Hey, keeping it zesty, Anthony Towns.

You know what I mean?

Like,

Jalen, amazing.

Like, good, good game, y'all.

You know, like, there's, there's not.

a high level of nudity.

We all

are

very individual in there.

We're locked in on our own stuff going on.

Right.

Yeah, because you want to be modest, but the way they make it look like in the 90s are like, certain guys were just walking around naked.

Yeah,

well, that's old heads in general.

Like, you go,

you go to a spa and you're going to run into that 65-year-old that's just ass naked, brushing his teeth.

It's like, dude, what are you doing?

Or flossing right in the middle of the hallway or something.

No, no, no, no.

You don't judge a guy's like products, right?

Like here you are, like you're hitting your Kiel's moisturizer and like so-so over there.

It's like with the Dwayne Reed brand.

You're like, you made, you just made 80 million bucks this year.

You do a generic lotion.

Yeah, we actually, we kind of do get on each other about what we're, what we're using, just because like some guys are wifed up and some guys aren't.

So the guys that are washing their face with, you know, shampoo or stuff like that, like we kind of get on each other for stuff like that.

But it's funny.

It's so funny.

I mean, I have a million questions.

You mentioned AAU, like growing up with guys.

Like, were you competing against any of them?

Like, did you grow up playing against Halliburton?

Like, did you grow up playing against like, yeah, yeah, a couple years older.

Like, I'm trying to think who was, who I really played against.

That's

played against Jalen Green, just got traded.

Jaime Jaquez, they were on the same team.

And it's, it's funny because I didn't know Jaime at all.

And he ended up going to UCLA.

And one of my good high school friends is a UCLA assistant coach.

And we were all worried about Jalen Green.

Obviously, he's been killing the East Circuit.

Yeah.

And Jaime Hawkez gave us like 35.

And we're like, who is this kid?

And they're like, oh, yeah, it's a UCLA command.

Little do we know.

Yeah.

I mean, that's how good guys are.

It's so good.

It's like another, it's a completely another level.

Yeah.

And it's just, just thinking about those type of moments is just like, man, it's fun to see that we all made it.

You know what I mean?

No, it's amazing.

What's the biggest difference between going from high school level of play to college and then college to the pros?

I mean, I feel like high school to college, it's such a big jump because now you're looking at like that first physicality level of a guy's being, you know, 22, 23.

You're coming into college at 17, 18.

Like, you know, I was probably coming into college 180, you know, and I mean, I'm, I'm going up against guards that are now been in a weight room for four years.

And that was probably the biggest jump for me, I think, was the physicality.

But luckily, we had a great strength program.

And I think I gained like 15 pounds in like a month of like straight muscle.

Just like imagine celebrating gaining 15 pounds in a month, Josh.

You know, like I gained 15 pounds.

That would be my worst nightmare.

Oh, my God.

If I gain 15 pounds in a month and it's not for a role,

I'm divorced.

It's bad.

Something really bad happened.

I'm interested in this because my father-in-law was a quarterback for the Jets for like 10 years.

And one day I was showing him this scene in any given Sunday where Pacino is full Pacino giving this like incredible speech.

And I'm like, isn't this great?

And he's like, it's great acting.

This would never happen.

And he's like, in the days of the inspiring coach, he's like, it's just.

You're probably not getting that big lift up speech because it's just, it's a different game.

Like every guy's a little bit out on their own nowadays.

Is that true?

Do coaches still give you that pump-up speech?

I wouldn't say it's movie-like, but I definitely think the motivating part is the main part, I think, from a coach at this level for us.

You know, the exes knows it can only do so much.

It's motivating your guys to go out there and get the job done.

So I wouldn't say it's movie-like.

I would say it's more game plan oriented, but.

you know, I'm ready to run through a brick wall for some of my coaches.

I was instructed.

How about this?

Let's do roleplay.

Let's joke around.

Okay.

A little bit.

And you can be the judge, Deuce.

We'll be, Ben and I will be your imaginary coaches, and we'll give you like a pump-up speech.

And you tell us which is more inspiring.

Okay, I like that.

Yeah.

Okay, let's give, I'll give you, how long do you want, Ben?

30 seconds?

30 seconds.

You go first.

You go first.

Me go first?

Yeah, you go first.

This is a great idea by you, but I need like, I need like your 30 seconds to this.

What's fair, Deuce, 40 seconds?

Is that like a good?

Yeah, I'd say that's solid.

40 seconds.

40 seconds.

Okay, and what is this?

Like end of like, end of the third quarter, we're down 10.

This is the finals, game seven.

I like down 10 going into the fourth.

We need a spark.

Yeah, we need it.

Yeah, we need a spark.

Okay, you ready?

Are we ready?

Apparently, all of you don't like pizza because none of you are getting pizza or ice cream if you keep playing at this level.

Guys,

I am in the middle of a divorce.

Okay?

I gotta, I need something.

She's gonna take it all.

I said, we should get a pre-nup, honey.

She's like, we don't need it.

It's true love.

Spoiler alert.

We needed it.

This is bad, boys.

So I need something to get me through.

Let's get out there.

I am falling apart.

Let's do it, Nicks.

Thank you.

I'm inspired.

Yeah.

I'm ready to to run through a wall for you that was excellent thank you thank you that was excellent i i don't i don't even know if i can go i should have gone first

i should have gone first all right we're down 10 going into the fourth

okay i'm trying to get into that headspace we need this win we need this win we need this win really really badly look we don't want to go home we don't want to go home i don't think you want to go home I don't think we have a chance to close it out on the road right now.

We have 12 minutes and then we can go.

We can have a beautiful weekend.

You don't have to come in the morning.

You don't have to practice.

We don't have to do anything.

We're just going to work our asses off.

12 minutes.

That's all I need from you.

12 minutes.

And then I can make brunch tomorrow.

You can make brunch tomorrow.

Okay.

You're going to have

spritzes.

You're going to go get a couple of spritzes.

You're going to sit.

You're going to drink.

Maybe you're going to go to Siddel's.

You're going to get a nice little spread.

Okay.

You're going to have, you're going to have a great time.

Or you're going to get on the plane.

You're going to go.

And then all of a sudden, you're doing suicides.

It's no good.

Take your pick.

Suicides or Siddell's?

Suicides or Siddels?

12 minutes.

Let's win.

Okay.

How was that?

That's good.

Okay.

I like it.

Suicides or Siddels?

I like it.

The juxtaposition.

I like that.

That was good enough.

I love it.

That was really good.

I love it.

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Like, did you get like, I've heard about this because I've known some professional athletes.

They would say to me, we just can order whatever we want at nike.com.

And it just shows up.

Is that true?

I mean,

depends if you have a Nike deal.

I have a Nike deal.

So yeah,

I can definitely go to Nikeelite.com and get a nice little package for myself or my family or whoever.

Sick.

Yeah,

that's a great part.

I'm not going to lie, Josh.

He has perfectly crisp white Air Force ones.

It's like the ones that you got me.

I got, it's funny.

Cause I got about 10 pairs of crisp ones.

Crisp ones.

Yeah.

But I thought it was going to rain a little bit.

I'm not gonna lie, these are crisper than my backup pairs.

Josh, for my birthday, got me two fresh pairs because I wear them, I wear them to death.

Yeah, they're just my

every shoe, everything shoe.

They're the best.

We have a deal with Meryl.

And so, I don't know if you're familiar, Deuce, but so we're getting walking shoes, we're getting hiking shoes, we're getting skipping shoes.

We have a deal with Meryl.

So good,

so good.

Can we talk about Caitlin Clark?

Yes, we should.

We should if you're down.

Cause I was going to ask, like, you said that jump from high school to college.

Those guys are super physical.

Like, we're watching in real time.

Like, she's getting, it looks like she's getting beaten the fuck up on the court.

And it's like these, these women are just like very, to me, it seems jealous or are they like just trying to haze her?

Like, like, what's going on?

Say haze, right?

I wouldn't say haze.

Like, are they trying to hurt her?

Like, it's, it's crazy.

i would hope nobody's goal is to actually hurt her yeah i think it's definitely like a welcoming or it's you know people have a chip on their shoulder like yeah what's so great about you you know what i mean what's so special about you yeah what's so special is she's unbelievable she's unbelievable trust me i'm what's so special is she crosses half court i've never seen anything like it no she's she's special and i think they they definitely want to make her prove it they do yeah they want to put her through all the tests put her through everything and all right let's see how great you are like prove it to me did you see that clip clip?

I guess she hit three threes in a row.

She crossed half court.

She got hit in the eye.

She's like down.

All of a sudden, she gets checked from behind and hits the board.

Like, is this hockey?

Yeah.

Like, yeah.

That was crazy.

Crazy.

Yeah.

But do they have in basketball, in hockey, right?

Your star player.

You will literally say, okay,

let's bring on an enforcer.

And their major job will be, if you touch our star, like next time up, you're getting checked into the boards as hard as they can.

And it's just sort of accepted.

Does that exist in basketball?

Someone to protect the star player?

Yeah, I would say so.

I think we're lucky because as a team, we're going to protect each other no matter who it is.

But I think around the league, there are definitely some guys that are definitely bruisers and forcers that are just brought on to protect.

Absolutely.

I think that exists.

Yeah.

It feels like in those clips, though, Caitlin Clark, she needs a protector, like game day.

Like, what does your game day routine look like?

Okay.

In the game tonight.

Okay.

So we got usually like a 10 a.m.

like like walkthrough shoot around go through our stuff go through whoever playing tonight and then i will get some treatment you know ice tub cold hot tub massage and then

eat around

12 o'clock one o'clock take a nap for like however tired i am might be 30 minutes might be two and a half hour nap wake up That's rough.

Waking up from a two and a half hour nap.

I'm like,

not when you're flying in and out out and you just landed at 3 a.m.

and

those two and a half hours are

clutch.

You need it.

Yeah, you need it.

And then I head to the arena.

You know, I make sure I pray before I go to sleep and head to the arena.

And

what, there, like 5.30, get on the court, do some more prep for my body.

And then it's game time.

Wow.

What a day.

It's a full day.

Full day.

It's a full day, like from 8.30 to 10.30.

We're doing everything except playing, Josh.

We're steaming.

We're cold plunging.

We're getting massages.

This is my afternoon.

This is printing and praying every morning.

This is fantastic.

I love it.

Is there, because sometimes I'll see like, like, I think everyone's personal spirituality is perfect.

And, and I, I always find when I'm talking to God before I have a big performance or something that I like care about, my whole thing is like, just let me serve the piece and the audience, right?

Like to try to get out of myself.

Cause if I'm trying to serve me and like, just let me kill this shit, dog, like God, just be behind me is when I'm probably going to self-sabotage.

Is there like, cause sometimes I'll see teams like have a prayer about winning and I'll be like, I don't know if God cares if the Seattle Supersonics win this mid-season game.

But so like, what is that centering practice?

Is it just to be the best that you can be in that moment?

Or what is it?

Yeah, definitely, you know, keep me healthy, but absolutely be the best.

Like, let me go out there and be the best let me you know i prepared to my best ability let me go out there and showcase it yeah speaking of health why do you think guys like these achilles injuries are popping up like you saw tatum i mean you saw you saw two of them yeah you saw tatum and then you saw halliburton or you didn't see it but like it was it was in the finals but it feels like young guys are getting injuries that are more prone for older players.

Is it are they overworked?

Like, like, what is the...

I would I would say yeah like a lot of people will argue oh you know we get all this treatment we do all this well you know back then AU wasn't the same like I vividly remember playing three games in a day you know and playing you know six to seven eight games in a weekend you know what I mean and on top of it I'm playing another sport I'm practicing for both sports and I know a lot of other guys are too like they're playing just as many games if not more flying all across the country, and they're not taking care of their body properly until they get to maybe college.

And then I know a lot of guys aren't taking care of their bodies in college.

So you, you got to think the intensity also has gone up because now everybody's working out.

Everybody's training, not like back then when, you know, you had a few guys that really knew the game, but now you got a lot more guys training, a lot more guys working out.

So the intensity is risen.

you know the quantity has risen of just how much you're playing and then you get to the league and 82 games after you've grown up just playing nothing but basketball or other sports involved.

And now you're playing 82 games.

And, you know, we're playing playoff games every other day, which was, I mean, kind of crazy in the Eastern Conference finals.

Like we went through first and second round where we had like two days off in Detroit or a couple of days off here, but now we're playing every other day in the Eastern Conference Finals.

So I think it's, it's a big part of just a lot of, a lot of games in a small amount of time.

Yeah.

What do you think about, have you heard about this book, Range by David Epstein?

I don't think so.

He wrote this book, Sports Gene, and it's the thing that I love.

I love throwing it in the face of fathers who care about their kids in sports.

Because like, it's not like, you know, it's not like fathers of people like you deuce who like have elite genetics.

I'm like, I'm like, listen, little Avery over there, he's not so good.

Okay.

You know, I don't know.

No one has the heart to tell you.

He's not great.

But basically what Range talks about is that

specialization at a young age is good for two things only, which is golf and classical piano.

Yeah.

Because they don't change, right?

They're very regimented.

And that basically what you want for most kids is for them to be well-rounded throughout their time, especially when they're young, play a bunch of sports, become mobile athletic people.

And then in their teens, they can become super specialized because they're like, you could have a 10-year-old who's been going to travel camps and to club sports and had all the experts with them they're like if you have a guy like you who's obviously works and talented but also predisposed to be great you could have never picked up a ball till you were 13 and you would have caught up to those kids really really quick like basically there are just people who are going to catch up in six months if your kids been playing for 10 years is that kind of true i think so i mean for sure right even for me, like I see guys around the league that might not touch a ball.

Let's say season ends in April, May.

They might not touch a ball until August, September.

And then you wouldn't even notice it.

Yeah.

It's, I love that you asked that question, Josh, because I was thinking the same.

I'm sure that there are guys around you that have to take great care of their bodies.

And I'm sure there are guys that don't have to at all.

Like, I have to watch every single thing that I eat.

I'm this fat by watching everything that I eat.

Okay.

And I'm telling you, like, I've heard of guys, like, they eat 10 packs of nerds a day or they eat like.

Shadow Chosinko.

They love, yeah, they love uncrustables.

I don't know if it's a thing in the NDA, but it's a thing in the NFL.

It's like, if I had an uncrustable, I'm bloated.

One uncrustable.

I'm dead.

I'm dead from gluten.

And it's, you know, I'm in a diabetic coma.

So, like, like, what's that like?

Like, are you, are you somebody that needs to take care of themselves?

And like, what's it like then if you are that type of person watching a guy who's just so gifted?

Like, LeBron, like I'm sure he played against LeBron.

I'm sure at this point, he takes care of himself.

Guys in his 40s, like crushing it.

Well, yeah, I mean, I'd say in some ways, you're jealous because you're like, man, this guy doesn't do anything.

And I'm over here doing whatever I can do to make myself get that advantage, get extra sleep, eat right.

And then you see a guy that doesn't do.

But sooner or later, you see it catches up that guy, and you'll see the people that usually treat their bodies right usually benefit from it in the long run.

And I think that always comes to fruition.

So it's tough to see in the moment, but you kind of just, you kind of just get used to it.

And you like to, you know, I love to do what I do.

You know, I love to take care of my body.

I love to do all the right things because then it gives me more confidence when I'm out there to know that I'm prepared.

I've done everything I can do.

So just go out there and play free.

Genetics are just so crazy, aren't they, Josh?

Like I have a, we joke, we had an episode, Josh brought in Russ and Daughters bagels.

I ate a bagel in the middle.

I'm like, I can't think anymore.

Like the second I eat a bagel, my brain turns off.

And then you have people that are eating bagels, like they're eating pasta before they play a 48-minute NBA game at the top of their, like, like, have you ever thought about that, Josh?

There are people that literally eat carbs.

Do you eat carbs for fuel?

You do, right?

Yeah.

Oh, like, what?

It's like a parallel universe.

Like, imagine eating a plate of pasta, Josh, before you go for a run because you know that it's going to, like, it'll give you energy.

Yeah.

But yeah, he's burning it, babe.

I know.

It's crazy you're not burning it watching love island i know so good are you watching love island no oh god it's fantastic dudes i know dudes i know we just met but when you lose a game or you lose a series like that you feel really you know passionately about you ever want to cry you feel emotion yeah my man me too

yeah i mean you work your whole life.

You work all season with those guys and you definitely get emotional.

I mean, it's something you love, at least for me.

It's something I love.

I love playing.

I love this team, you know, and yeah, I was definitely emotional after we lost.

Did you love, like, were you a die-hard fan?

What was your team growing up?

I wasn't a diehard fan of really any NBA team.

Like, obviously, I'm from Ohio, so I watched the Cavs pretty heavily with LeBron.

I more liked players, I'd say.

I'm more like players.

You're a player guy.

Who is your favorite player?

I mean, probably LeBron.

LeBron.

Yeah.

LeBron.

Yeah, I really like like Tracy McGrady.

Man.

Who else I watched?

Chris Paul a lot.

Kemba.

Kemba was huge.

So good.

Also a Nick.

Yeah.

At a weird time.

We love to do that.

We take guys just at the very end.

We throw them on so many random guys.

But like, what's it like then?

So you're, you idolize LeBron and all of a sudden you're playing against LeBron.

Like, what, what is that?

Are you nervous?

No, I would say like from being on the AU circuit, you start meeting so many guys.

Like I think I met Dwayne Wade when I was, you know, a freshman in high school.

So you just start meeting so many guys just when, as you start going farther and farther in your basketball career, that you really just get used to it.

Like I played for LeBron's AAU team.

Got it.

You know what I mean?

So like you kind of just get, you're very used to it by that point.

So AAU is really like you're, you're turning pro at 13.

It's like a different, or when do you start AAU?

I would say high, like major AU is about 14, 15, like when you're entering high school.

I'm just saying, Josh, he's a child actor.

You're like,

AAYU.

There's parallel here.

There's parallels here.

I'm sure that there are guys in AAU that are so good, either get injured, get burned out, and never make it, but they were the guy, right?

I feel like that's like Josh.

Josh is just an amazing actor, but there are plenty of child actors that also burn out.

I'm just recognizing parallels here.

I mean, I was AAU.

I mean, look, AAU for actors.

13, it's Fiddler on the Roof.

Yeah.

14, it's Pippin.

Yeah.

15, 15, it's Hamilton.

You know what I mean?

By 16, you better be on a Nickelodeon show.

And by 17, you're going to Equinox.

So

let's do the book quickly and then a what are you nuts.

Perfect.

Okay.

Why write a children's book?

That's my first question.

And then I want to talk about the book because Deuce, the championship of friendship, champion of friendship, I mean, it's, it's such a great concept.

I haven't seen another athlete go into children's books.

My sister-in-law just wrote a children's book also.

And we are in this life stage.

I I have a five-week old, like your whole life becomes them.

So this, I think it's genius.

But what, what made you want to write a children's book?

You know, I always felt like a lot of problems in the world are just adults not doing the right things by children, you know, not leading them in the right directions, not being positive when they need to be positive, but also not being able to discipline them in the right way.

And I feel like being able to teach the youth the right way of doing things will make the world a better place in general.

It starts with the youth.

Like they're our future.

They're going to be taking care of us.

And, you know, like I'm very big in, you know, giving back and, you know, helping out the boys and girls clubs in Cincinnati, bringing them to some Pacers games when we play against them.

So I just wanted to write a book about friendship and just really, you know, I'm very blessed and I have a great group of friends.

And, you know, a lot of people aren't blessed like that.

A lot of people don't have people that they can go to about any problems or things that are bothering them.

And I feel like, especially for men, like, you know, it gets kind of shoved shoved down and we have to be tougher.

And I feel like just being able to be open about your emotions and being able to get stuff off your chest is just going to make you a lot happier and a lot, put you in a lot better space.

So that's kind of the motivation.

Wholesome.

Where can we get the book?

Can we get it on Amazon?

Amazon.

Okay.

So we have a ton of young parents get the book, Deuce the Champion of Friendship on Amazon.

Support him.

Yeah.

Appreciate it.

Yeah.

No, it's, it's, it's awesome.

All right.

So our what are you nuts moment moment of the week?

I don't know if Zach briefed you, but this is you're walking down the city.

This is a weird place, and you're looking and you're like, What are you fucking nuts?

Like, what, what is going on here?

We can go first, let you think, or if you have one, you can, you can go.

It actually doesn't have to do with the city.

Yeah, with anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

With anything.

Zach did tell me.

So I was.

It's funny because I was watching the finals game.

And, you know, shout out to former Nick, Isaiah Hartenstein, my guy.

You know, congrats to him and his family.

And I got to say, it's, it's his son being asleep.

Just got a championship, lifelong dream, and you're sleep right there on the stage.

But I know when he sees it, when he's older, he's going to, you're going to enjoy that moment.

So that's my, that's my what are you, you know, what are you nuts?

That's perfect.

That's perfect.

You're sleeping, dad, just won a ring.

Yeah.

And yeah, shout out Hartenstein.

What a great player.

So good.

My what are you nuts moment of the week, Josh, is today I was walking my sweet Ruby, five-week-old son just got a starbucks all of a sudden i see probably a guy mid-60s polo popped collar and it's just like what are you nuts like

we're still popping collars josh

we're still popping collars like i just looked at him when i'm still rad i was just looking at him i'm just like you look like such a douche like what are you nuts put down your collar it's too much it's too much My what are you nuts moment of the week is, as we all know, I love a Costco.

And the other day I'm headed straight for the sample counter and I see these beautiful little garlic toast bites.

Garlic bread looks so good.

All of a sudden, the lady from the other sample station next door, running the next sample station next to her, comes over, helps herself to a couple samples.

None left for Joshi.

What do you nuts?

You work here.

That's nuts.

These are for me.

For sure.

These are not for you.

No, she's not buying anything.

That's crazy.

It's not a sample.

No, that's a buffet.

Yes.

Bring it to the break room.

So

you would have only held yourself to one?

Oh, no.

I'd circle back.

If it's good, I'll circle.

Okay.

You ever get called out for circling?

I remember when I was a kid, I get called out for circling, you know, Sam's Club and Costco's.

I get called out like, all right, you've had too many.

Deuce, you and I would have a good time.

I think that's what's clear.

Okay, we hit up a couple big box stores.

I'm in.

End our day at a food court.

Man, so good.

Dad life.

Fantastic.

Absolutely.

You know what else is fantastic?

Josh, this podcast, Deuce McBride, new book.

Great guy.

We can find you at Deuce McBride on Instagram.

Right?

Okay.

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Appreciate y'all.

Thank you.

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Thank you, Deuce.

Yo, bye, this book, people.

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