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Speaker 2 Benny and Joshi, you'll never guess what we're talking about. It has to do with Lena Dunham shirtless.
Go for it, Ben. Benny and Joshi watching girls 20 years late.

Speaker 2 Benny and Joshi, there are a lot of breasts.

Speaker 2 There are, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah. First of all, shout out Lena Dunham.
I misjudged you, okay? I misjudged you. This is a wonderful show.
It's great. Complex characters.

Speaker 2 Super talented. Super talented.
No question. That said, I literally feel like she wrote this show just so she could be naked.
She's naked 100% of this show.

Speaker 2 When she doesn't need to be naked, she's naked. Like in those, there's like a, like there's a bathtub scene, right? She's under bubbles.

Speaker 2 All of a sudden, for no reason, she just readjusts so you see a nipple. Like, she's always naked.
Right. I didn't know.
I love the show. I didn't know that this was Adam Driver's big break.

Speaker 2 He's awesome. So good.
So talented. I'm trying to think who else is in it, but this is like, it's like the gay, it's like gay sopranos.
That's girls for HBO.

Speaker 2 It's sopranos for the LGBTQ community and me. Like, that's what it is.
Like, Paige watched it, but she's like a girl from Southern California.

Speaker 2 But while it was on the air, I mean, you're a little young. I feel like you were a little bit young for it when it was on the air, right?

Speaker 2 I think, I think I was in, i think i was in college was it like affirming for new york girls was it like their anthem like was it their

Speaker 2 i don't during that time i don't remember anybody talking about girls i don't but i have my head in my ass all the time i remember them talking about i think you were a little young maybe i was when did it come out olivia do you know when girls came out 2010 came out

Speaker 2 2012 april 12 okay

Speaker 2 okay so now i i mean i was 20 like it's not.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I feel like, yeah, it was certainly like a late 20s, like

Speaker 2 20s. It's grown up.
Like, it's proper, properly grown up. It is a lot of mental health, a lot of drug use, a lot of, it's serious topics.

Speaker 2 It's like, the reason that I like it is because it's funny, lighthearted, well-written, but really does touch on some very serious shit. And we're in the middle of season three.

Speaker 2 Hannah has terrible, which is Lena Dunham, terrible OCD, and just jammed a q-tip literally into her brain that I'm like, oh, why are you doing that? Which, like, I know, I'll never use a q-tip again.

Speaker 2 That scene scarred me. But yeah, it gets, it gets deep.
But yeah, girls is really good. We watch the crown, Josh.
I've been watching a ton of TV. We want to stay on girls or we want to hop around.

Speaker 2 Well, I want to know, because I think I deserve, or I think I need to do a bit of an apology, even though it was all in my head. I never said anything publicly.

Speaker 2 But I think I was like everyone else where I was really hard on Lena Dunham, to your point. And I think like, I've seen her recently with her new look.

Speaker 2 And if she believes it, she was recently quoted saying, like, what would she tell her younger self? And it was something to the effect of like, calm down, girl. Like, you're not that special.

Speaker 2 You're not that important. And like, you could, like, worry 50% less and be as or more successful than you were.
And I certainly could have said that to myself in my 20s.

Speaker 2 And I think that certainly there was stuff, you know, that she said or did where I think just naturally people like, people had strong opinions towards but I do I give her credit and I will say I'm interested to hear what you and Olivia have to say about this like I think like I have respect for people when they're so universally like beat up publicly and then they like somehow walk through it and come out the other side I'm like uh-uh like I think this is like the time to welcome them back with a warm embrace I mean she did do it to herself though like I know you say more

Speaker 2 I know I know you haven't watched the show but if you watch the show and I would recommend it because it's 25 minute episodes, it's like a quick, easy watch.

Speaker 2 It's not like one, one weekend or something, binge it. Yeah.
She is the least likable

Speaker 2 character and she wrote it, Josh. So she wrote herself.
It's almost like she hates herself. The way that she wrote it and portrayed herself.

Speaker 2 Like you just, you look at this woman that is a hundred percent, like a hundred percent naked all the time, covered in tattoos, makes poor decision after poor decision after poor decision, is just like a complete nutcase.

Speaker 2 And she wrote it and she depicted herself like this and she did it. And like you're watching it.

Speaker 2 And it's not like, it's not like when people hate Sarah Jessica Parker in what the fuck is that show called? Sex in the City. Sex in the City.
My God.

Speaker 2 It's not like, it's not like when people hate, like, because like people love to hate her in that, right? But objectively, like, there's nothing really wrong.

Speaker 2 There's so, there is so much wrong with Hannah, Lena Dunham's character in this show she's a horrible friend she's a horrible daughter and is it is it the personification of what people don't like about like the liberal coastal elite of like pretentious and smug at least the character like no like not even like she's so she's so awful she's so awful like she is a narcissist when she can't be you look at this person this being you're like you're a narcissist how are you a narcissist oh

Speaker 2 at

Speaker 2 goes free reign. I know.
And at the same time, she hates herself. It's like so.

Speaker 2 Hating yourself is on the same coin of narcissism. It's just the other side because it's self-obsession.
Exactly. And it's just, it's wild.
So I understand why everybody hates or hated Lena Dunham.

Speaker 2 But if you take it a step further, you realize. For her to act like that and write like that, she is so unbelievably talented.

Speaker 2 If you can make me hate you that much, you're a brilliant actress and you're a brilliant writer.

Speaker 2 And so I have, I don't like her because I don't like her character, but I have unbelievable amounts of respect for her. She's incredibly talented.

Speaker 2 And yeah, I also wonder what percentage of it is Judd Appetow because he's also on it and the lightheartedness feels like every great lighthearted Judd Appetow movie or show I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 So I wonder if it's just the combo that she is everything negative and he swoops in with like that lighthearted, funny, quirky. I don't know, but taking it at face value, she's incredibly talented.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the Judd magic, when it comes to someone very, very talented, and then he can come in there from like a 30,000 foot view and just be like, move your troops a little to the left.

Speaker 2 Like, yeah, I think that's his special sauce is like making super talented people even better. Then that's why the show works.
Yeah. Because it's, it's the combo.
It's, it's the combo.

Speaker 2 And yeah, I like it a lot. It's really good.
Interesting. Olivia, what do you think about Lena Dunham?

Speaker 7 I have only seen like an episode or two of girls, so I need to like get back into it myself. But I definitely had that like perception of her just because I was like quite young too.

Speaker 7 So I had just heard her name thrown around in like negative ways most of my life.

Speaker 7 And then recently, I think like when I picked up the show, I was like, oh, this is Lena Dunham. I like didn't put it together fully.

Speaker 7 And to your, I agree with you that, like, when you've had so much ridicule, and like, I mean, I didn't even know or consume much of anything that she had done, and I didn't really have a good impression of her.

Speaker 7 So, like, I think, you know, as people grow, it's good to give grace. And I'm excited to see what she does in the future, too.

Speaker 7 And hopefully, can have like a bit of a, you know, turning point in the public eye.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think she will.

Speaker 2 I don't like, I am not betting on a Lena Dunham renaissance. I'm not.
I think I'm starting. I think it's happening.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm stuck in 2012, Lena Dunham. So if anything that's happening in 2025, I'll find out in 2040.
Right.

Speaker 2 He hasn't even dealt with James Candolfini's passing yet. Oh, no.
What do you mean? I'm only on season three.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a fascinating. I don't know.
I'm really down to try to like the people that people hate and dislike the people that people love. Like,

Speaker 2 I think that's me. I think that's Josh approaching 40.
No, but it's also, it's interesting. Like kids on TikTok love to say this.
We made the right person famous. You know how you see that?

Speaker 2 Like on like these like viral characters? Yes. And you're just like, and it's just like,

Speaker 2 like, yuck. Anybody that's writing that about somebody else, I hate you.
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 2 Just because you brought up sopranos, I want to, I want to say one thing. I told you this.
I think I told you this like in real time in the hospital.

Speaker 2 The only thing that helped me sleep was I would close my eyes and I would unintentionally, I would count sopranos. The way that people count sheep, this is me.

Speaker 2 I would lay my head on the pillow and I would say, hi, Tony Soprano. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, Ben. Come into my house.
This is my wife, Carmella. This is my daughter, Meadow.

Speaker 2 This is my son, AJ. Oh, this is my grandma, Livia.
This is my uncle, Junior. These are my friends, Frankie, Pussy, Christopher.
This is Artie Bucco. And this is Dr.
Melfi.

Speaker 2 And I would be out like a light in 15 seconds. Do I have problems? Clearly, I mean, you're on this podcast.

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Speaker 2 shit, Silvio, Paulie, Paulie Walnuts. I said Pauli.
I said Frankie. Adriana.
Adriana. Yeah.
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So the beautiful Ruby now, our first episode back, we heard about the birth. And as we all know, eight days later is the ceremony of all ceremonies.

Speaker 2 It's Little Baby Jewish Super Bowl. It's the Briss.
It's the circumcision. Walk us through.

Speaker 2 So first of all, if you are Jewish or if you are not Jewish and you you still want to do a bris or it's a beautiful ceremony, I just have to say they do it in the hospital as well, and that's great.

Speaker 2 But if you're having a bris, make sure that your moil comes from a long line of moils. He's a nice guy, a normal guy, meet him.

Speaker 2 Okay, moil for the three Gentiles who listen are rabbis who have been trained in the art of circumcision. They're rare.
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Speaker 2 sorry yes yes no no no a thousand percent and the right mole or the right rabbi who does the circumcision is not some random guy with a pair of scissors okay this guy i'll shout him out by name because he was amazing dr katzenstein not dr katzenstein rabbi katzenstein he might as well be a doctor he shadowed surgeons at columbia

Speaker 2 he's not just picking up a pair of scissors and like doing this willy-nilly stop saying it like that you're gonna You're going to make people anti-zomatic. It's way more clinical than you think it is.

Speaker 2 So clinical. Went into it feeling good.
Let me tell you, Josh, this boy's penis is pristine.

Speaker 2 Pristine. It's fantastic.
But jumping back to the beginning, we have a bris. A bris, you go in in the morning, you pray, it's beautiful.
You then have the snipping. Okay.
It's very emotional.

Speaker 2 We had about 150 people there. There was only one person missing, Josh, but it it is what it is.
I'm sorry. I would have loved to be there.
And it was amazing.

Speaker 2 And we then had, my God, did Claudia, she threw a bomb mitzvah, a bor mitzvah. She,

Speaker 2 my dad catered, but it was golf themed. We had little baby soffer golf balls and like the whole omelette stations and takeaways.
And it was insane, insane. And it was amazing.

Speaker 2 And the snipping itself was sad, but he handled it like a champ. My dad held him.
It was a very special moment. And Rabbi did an unbelievable job.
And was Claudia removed at that point? She was there.

Speaker 2 No, she was there for the whole thing. Did she stand right there? Because sometimes I've seen the wives kind of be like huddled around by the women.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes. Huddled around by the women.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes. Sorry.
I thought you meant like, was she not in the room at all? No, she was, she was away from it, did not need to see it. I didn't look.
I can't look at that stuff. I closed my eyes.

Speaker 2 I was right there. I hope my dad didn't look.
I don't know if he did or didn't. And it was incredibly special.
And thank God he did a great job.

Speaker 2 But those, those are the only diapers, those, those you feel really badly about. Like post-circumcision, you're then changing diapers, but there's a different process now.

Speaker 2 You have to make sure that poop gets nowhere near that fresh cut penis because you could get an infection. You have to tuck it.
You have to apply the stuff. But we did great.
I know.

Speaker 2 We've talked about it before.

Speaker 2 And I do think that like when they came to pick Max up to have his circumcision the the day after he was born, right up until that moment, having grown up Jewish and like had never having had second thoughts about it, as we're walking down the hallway in my brain, I just went, this is barbaric.

Speaker 2 This is sick. This is sick.
And I will say,

Speaker 2 it's your baby boy and they're taking it. They're taking scissors to his feet.
I'm calling it scissors. It's not scissors.
It's a scalpel. Okay.

Speaker 2 It's scissors. No, it's not.
It's literally, it's literally these little, they're little scissors. No, no, no.
Then maybe that's his, then he used a form of tweezers. It's like a clamp off.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's, oh, that's one weird part speaking of baby wieners.
They need to make sure that like everything looks good before they perform the circumcision. So you have to FaceTime the moil

Speaker 2 and show the babysener.

Speaker 2 That's bad. That's sending up some red flags and whatever FBI agents watch.

Speaker 2 1,000%. Like, what is this rabbi doing on FaceTime with a baby wiener once a day? I had a moment where I passed out once from like a mini surgery that I was watching.
I told you this.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. I was dating a girl who got a staph infection in her knee and her knee blew up.
And so we went to urgent care because we were just like idiot 19-year-olds.

Speaker 2 We were just like, oh, I don't know. I'm like, go to the doctor, like, go to the emergency room, Josh.
Like, her knee is falling off.

Speaker 2 And this doctor was this Persian cat who was like, let the middle take care.

Speaker 2 And he just, he, and he didn't, I remember he didn't numb numb it nothing because he was like it's completely swollen like the skin is dead and he gave her antibiotics and then he cut that shit open he just sliced it open and then and i just remember staring at it and then waking up with my legs in the air and a nurse waving smelling salt under my nose and so now i think i worry about that but i don't think but now i've watched so much of the pit i think i'd be fine I think that you saw something that you weren't supposed to see.

Speaker 2 I think most people would pass out from something something like that. That's a lot.
I was not expecting. Seeing a leg cut open completely out of the blue, that's a lot.
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 So I give you that.

Speaker 2 I don't think you would have passed out if you saw your son's circumcision. I don't.
I think you would have felt really fucking sad about it, which is why we don't watch it. That's it.

Speaker 2 That said, I haven't had the great fortune of seeing your penis. I'm sure you have a great penis.
You haven't seen the, had the great fortune of seeing my penis. I have a great penis.
Great penises.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying, we were circumcised. These are great penises.
Mine is great, right? It's good to own it. Own that you have a great penis.
Is it pretty? You have a pretty penis. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Sorry, Olivia. You can leave, dude.
This is inappropriate. By the way, I'm going to, she's not in the room with me.
I forgot.

Speaker 2 It's great. I got,

Speaker 2 it's great. It's really great.
It's like one thing I've never had a complex about. Yeah, which is huge.
Imagine looking down and being honest. It is huge.
No, sorry

Speaker 2 imagine looking down and being like damn that's unfortunate that would suck that would suck but i've also like i've been plagued by so much insecurity my whole life but like the the go-to male insecurity has been like size and shape and thing and the whole thing and i'm just like oh i don't have any of that like it works great no complaints like stoked yeah yep wakes up just got deeper wakes up in the morning ready to go to work he's ready it's just great i although i haven't have you had any friends again i think we hang out with different crowds but have you had friends who in their 30s are are not necessarily because they really need it but they don't mind it are starting to take like a viagra or a sialis recreationally if they are they're not telling me about it i have not i haven't had one friend call me and tell me that he's taken something like that so no I never have taken one, but I know that I have friends who are like, who, for all intents and purposes, have like dated a lot and slept around and had a good old time.

Speaker 2 And they're like, oh, I just got on this and it's great.

Speaker 2 Well, I've told you, I've told this story a long time ago on the podcast when I took Mucin XD. You remember this story? Tell me more.
I took Mucin XD off label.

Speaker 2 And in the middle of the night, in the middle of the night, I woke up with, oh my God, the most. painful erection.
It would not go away for three and a half hours. And we checked the packaging.

Speaker 2 And in like 1% of people, it can cause erectile dysfunction. So while I haven't taken those.
Sounds like erectile function. That's true.
Erectile function.

Speaker 2 While I've never taken a Viagra, Cialis, et cetera, in my experience, brief experience, having a boner when you don't want one and you can't get it to go away is hell.

Speaker 2 I get that maybe you want it at that point, but you don't want it for four hours, Josh. What are they doing? Are they fucking for four hours? It never goes down.

Speaker 2 I think they've now made the pills as such where you can kind of command it when necessary and then it kind of goes back into a resting function. It's just when you get hot and bothered, it's vital.

Speaker 2 It's stiff. Stiff as a board.
It's powerful.

Speaker 2 We can pivot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 But again, I feel glad I've never even, I've never needed that.

Speaker 2 Thank God, Josh. Thank God.
Wake up every day. Thank God for my schmeck.

Speaker 2 Do you? No, I should.

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Speaker 2 A nice thing that I do with Max and Shai at night is we say a prayer at night. And I think it could be a fun thing to do with Rubes.

Speaker 2 I love it. Ruby.
We say, we do the Shema and then we say a little prayer for like to honor mom's side of the religion. And then

Speaker 2 but it's really just like I always say like, thank you, God, for mommy, Maxie, Shy Shai, and the baby. And then we like call out anybody else who needs extra prayers and then in my career.

Speaker 2 And then no, getting.

Speaker 2 And then we end it with a little, in your name we pray, to shout out my wife, because I didn't grow up saying that. And then

Speaker 2 yeah, it's a nice thing. I love that.
I love that. I will 100% be doing that with Mr.
Ruby, who is just

Speaker 2 so cute. Ruby Booby.
That's what I call him. Ruby Booby.
Rubenson. Rubenson Bubenson.
The names are just crazy. Oh, the Russian Rubel.
The Ruben sandwich.

Speaker 2 So good. Ruby Tuesday.
Maybe he'll be Ruby Friday. He's a little more like...
Do you get excited?

Speaker 2 Do you remember Ruby Foos?

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure. So I call him Ruby Foo also.
And what I want to do, Josh, his second birthday is going to be Ruby 2's. It's going to be Asian fusion themed.
You like that? Right? Like,

Speaker 2 love, love.

Speaker 2 And maybe we just buy back because the chain is dead. Maybe we just buy back Ruby Foo's.
And it's his. That's his legacy.
Ruby Foo's.

Speaker 2 Done. And I now like, honestly, what I call him most, I call him Mr.
Foo. That's what I call him.
Do you want to?

Speaker 2 Do you want to mention, were there any other like name contenders that were really close possible choices?

Speaker 2 There was, but Claudia doesn't want me mentioning it because

Speaker 2 we might use them yeah but what i can tell you is that we were so close to naming him this other name that we literally submitted the birth certificate form with the other name wow

Speaker 2 and the next day the doctor or the nurse came in and she's like okay we have all of your discharge forms except we never got the birth certificate we're like what are you talking about like we literally filled it out.

Speaker 2 We gave it to you with all those other forms. And she's like, no, we don't have it.
And we took that as a sign and changed it.

Speaker 2 it was very close though to being the other name and now i look at him and he could he it's this he couldn't have ever been that other name now tell me this because i was a little hurt not really tell me look when i and maybe to my wife's chagrin but what can you do with the kids 50 mine when that baby comes out when i because i'm having a baby in two weeks when that baby comes out we're going to have a 7 a.m c-section brochashem god willing within three hours ben you are getting an approved photo by me, not by my wife.

Speaker 2 I felt bad. Because your uncle, Ben.
I was like,

Speaker 2 I'm happy.

Speaker 2 I'm happy that you said that you felt bad because let me tell you, you were the first person that I texted a photo to. Thank you.
That means a lot.

Speaker 2 I did not feel comfortable knowing how much it would have bothered Claudia texting people the photos until we left the hospital.

Speaker 2 She was so nervous about, because there are a lot of, I would say that the number one contingency of toasters, the number one occupation is nurses. Like that hospital was all toasters everywhere.

Speaker 2 And it's very disarming or it's the opposite. It's very alarming.

Speaker 2 You don't feel, you're just like, I know that they mean well, of course, but when you're in such a vulnerable state, you don't want people to know where you are. what time you're there.

Speaker 2 We've publicly spoken about how our doctor is Dr. Fox because he was Jackie's doctor and we're so thankful for him.

Speaker 2 but people know that dr fox is at sin i west so they know our hospital then they know the time she just she just didn't like it so it was very hard for me it was harder for my parents every single day my dad or like the whole day he's like i i can't text a picture to your uncle like what do you mean i'm like just wait i was like just wait a day but what i know what is totally here you and but how does the nurse picture fear correlate with sending sending a picture to bruce i i think i think that the fear is that picture goes well my dad of course got pictures but my dad shares things with everyone everyone like my dad is mr public transportation he loves a good bus he'll go on the bus what a perfect man he'll go on the bus and let me tell you he will talk to the person next to him about me and show pictures of me or of claudia and i'm telling you he easily could have just shown a picture of the baby to that person person like he doesn't think that way he's so honest he's like so he's hamish he's hamishes he's

Speaker 2 he's hey he's hey that's the perfect that's the perfect that's the perfect word and he doesn't think of any of the potential downsides to a situation so i think the fear was send it to him send it to uncle uncle sends it to cousin cousin sends it to somebody else all of a sudden i don't know sure but to respect her wishes and just make her feel as comfortable as possible i just waited but just know you were literally first in line.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Literally first in line.
So I could feel, I could feel it. I'm happy that you told me that it upset you.
I could feel it. Not really.
I listen. Lightly.
It was light. It was light.

Speaker 2 No, and I, and listen, if you do it on the second one, we're not talking. No, but it's your first kid.
Like, I honor all experiences. And I know, you know, I totally, everything is right.

Speaker 2 Nothing is wrong. However you guys needed to do it is perfect.
Yeah. It's a crazy thing.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 All I want to do, all I want to do, i've built this platform persona for a decade i can't share him do you know how hard that is it's so hard now it's become easier that day i was like i'm not going to show these people my greatest accomplishment like i'm here telling you that business ventures i talk about we podcast sports society all this stuff i can't show you ruby he's perfect i can't show him to you not you to like my followers to people yeah do you want to talk more about that because I understand like for me, I guess we always, and I'm a little bit more liberal.

Speaker 2 I totally and I totally respect just saying these kids will have anonymity until one day if they grow up and they want to be public, they can choose that.

Speaker 2 But especially when they're babies, just because they're, you know, they'll only be that way for a couple months. What made that decision to just say, we'll never show a picture ever?

Speaker 2 I think we just made a hard and fast rule. I'm so with you.
If we were to ever show a picture, it would have been right now because their face is going to change. right?

Speaker 2 But I think it's a slippery slope. You post a picture of him.
This is just our way of thinking. And they eat it up.
They love it. Right.
Gets a million likes. It's the most liked photo.

Speaker 2 They want more. And it's like in us to want to give more.
Like, I just, that at least is the way that I was thinking about it. I would want to keep posting him.

Speaker 2 And so it was just like a hard and fast rule. And the day that I knew that I would never post him is I won't mention who this influencer, fashion blogger person is.
But my sister called me.

Speaker 2 She's like, I was just in Central Park and I recognized the four-year-old with the nanny in the park. The mother wasn't there.
I recognized her. And that is fucking scary, Josh.
It's fucking scary.

Speaker 2 To me, New York City is a different breed. It's a completely different breed.
That baby is out with the nanny, with family, with whatever.

Speaker 2 And somebody that could not be a friend can recognize them when they're at their most vulnerable. Sure.
Is very scary. So that's one reason.
AI scares the shit out of me.

Speaker 2 But the main reason is safety. And what do you do like eventually when you guys get invited to the premiere of Renovation season five? No.

Speaker 2 Like you get invited to the premiere of the new Pixar movie. And of course you want to go and bring, you know, there's so many fun family things.

Speaker 2 And I, I go through this too, where we'll get invited to these great like family things that my kids have a ball at. But if I have to do like a photo, I'll always do it alone.

Speaker 2 But, you know, I won't help but notice that in the background of someone else's photo might be me and Max or me and Shai. And, but I guess it's just like, you do your very best.

Speaker 2 You don't put them on your social and you live your life. You do your very best.
That's right. Do your very best.
And if I see somebody taking a picture of him against my will, I will take that phone.

Speaker 2 And like, that's fucked up. Like, you don't take pictures of other people's kids intentionally.
Right. Like when you're, when you're not friends with them and you don't know them.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it's just to do your best. I think about that all the time.
Like he's going to be in the world and people stop us and see us on a daily basis. So people are going to see him.

Speaker 2 But it's more so just doing our best to guard against this weird world that we live in that isn't Hamish anymore. But what if you have the next big AJ? If we have the next...

Speaker 2 Keep him from the world, you selfish. If we have the next big AJ, then he'll let us know at 13 years old that he's ready to be big AJ.
But I don't need a Rizzler at nine. Love him to death.

Speaker 2 I need a Rizzler at nine.

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Speaker 2 Keep it brief. Brevity is key.
We don't want your whatey nutses. They're not awesome.
But other than that, keep it brief. Here's from anonymous let's try it again

Speaker 13 here's from uh anonymous hey good guys moron and toaster here coming to you with a what are you nuts that i need your thoughts on my husband to be

Speaker 13 stands to wipe his butt after he's gone to the bathroom i've never seen anything like that never heard of that Really would love your thoughts on is this normal?

Speaker 13 Is this something worth not marrying him over? Obviously not the case. Love him so much, but what are you nuts? I've never seen that.
Is this normal behavior? Thanks. Take care.
Bye-bye.

Speaker 2 Not marrying him over. It's not like he doesn't wipe his ass.
That would be not marrying over. He takes his shit and then he just puts on his underwear.
You don't marry that guy.

Speaker 2 They're not marrying him because he stands up to wipe. Let me tell you something, Josh, okay? Tell me.
Let me tell you something. When I've made a big old duty, you could catch me standing.

Speaker 2 Okay. At the end, at the end, the first wipe is attempted sitting.
Okay. Always.

Speaker 2 But if you see that you're going to need to excavate a bit, I have no issues with a light standing wipe.

Speaker 2 I think it's a little bit weird if you take a shit and then immediately jump up and exclusively wipe when you're standing. But no, sometimes you need a hunchover, get in there.

Speaker 2 And at this point, you're still in. Someone help.
Help. Somebody.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. Help.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 there's a song by Blippy, which you will know know in the next year or so, the great children entertainer Blippy that goes, I'm an excavator.

Speaker 2 Excavator. Hey, poop.
See you later. No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 I added that. I added that.

Speaker 2 That's good, though.

Speaker 2 Josh, should we write children's songs? Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, this could be our new Renaissance. Children's Books, Children's Songs.

Speaker 2 You could be,

Speaker 2 you'll sing. I'll play the guitar.
I would love to. It's my dream.
Maybe a two. Dude, if you really, I'm down.
I should be doing the next two Mr.

Speaker 2 Yeah, man. I've always wanted to have my own version of Mr.
Rogers' neighborhood.

Speaker 2 I'm talking puppets. I'm talking biracial postman.
I'm talking. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 I would love it. Great.

Speaker 2 Come on, Benny and Joshi's treehouse. Okay, good working.

Speaker 2 Will we get arrested?

Speaker 2 Benny and Joshi's kingdom.

Speaker 2 The IMBs.

Speaker 2 Love it.

Speaker 2 I love it too. So good.
And then the United Bubby Emirates. Okay.
So good. UBE.

Speaker 2 Next one's from Jen.

Speaker 14 Hey, Josh and Ben, longtime moron and toaster. I have a what are you nuts for you? So I took my 16-month-old daughter to dinner tonight and I got her the kids mac and cheese.

Speaker 14 And there was a dedicated kids' menu, menu, okay? The chicken tenders, pizza, and of course, mac and cheese. So I ordered the mac and cheese.

Speaker 14 The waitress brings it out to me in a cast iron skillet and then proceeded to tell me not to touch the skillet because it's hot.

Speaker 14 Like, you know, when you go to a Mexican restaurant, you get a thing of fajitas and it comes out on a sizzling platter, like with the smoke coming out of it. That's how hot this was on the kids' menu.

Speaker 14 Okay, this was a dedicated kids' menu. And I was so floored by this, I literally was stunned into silence i couldn't believe it like what are you nuts that's was it

Speaker 2 was it good i bet it was crumbly little top like crunchy top sounds amazing totally nuts for sure but like was it delicious like i want a i want a skittled mac and cheese yeah more things should be i think you can actually make things healthier just by serving them in cast iron i'm in yeah sounds great

Speaker 2 more things should be served in cast iron. It's also less cleanup.
I just realized that. It's a real hack for the place.
And do cast iron cold. Your morning breakfast cereal in a cast iron? Why not?

Speaker 2 I'm in. A yogurt.
A charfa in a cast iron? Sure. Yeah.
I'm in. I'm in.
Okay. Same here.

Speaker 2 Make a restaurant called cast iron. Everything in a cast iron.
It does upset me, though, on TikTok where people will be like, you can't clean your cast iron ever. Because I'm like, what?

Speaker 2 You got to season that thing. Totally.
And you, yeah, and you, you have to clean it. I don't even know what that means.
You can't clean it. You can't use soap.
Can't do it. You have to.

Speaker 2 Otherwise, it tastes like the last thing you ate. That's the idea, Ben.

Speaker 2 It's disgusting. You're supposed to like, basically, from what I understand is you like pour out the drippings and then you just take a wet paper towel and you clear it.

Speaker 2 so that like it looks clean but it flavors it because if you hit it with soap every time, you're losing all of that stuff.

Speaker 2 And then every like five to 10 times, you're supposed to do a salt rub where you just take like super coarse salt, pour it in, and then you like scrub it all out. And that's like reseasons it.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah, and then you have to put it on the fire again and then just cook oil by itself. Too much work.
I use soap.

Speaker 2 You're going to palm all of your cast iron.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just

Speaker 2 not watching it. I saw a TikTok the other day that was somebody somebody was like cutting fruit and then cut garlic or cut garlic first and then cut fruit.

Speaker 2 And it was like, this was the fruit that I ate growing up.

Speaker 2 And it made me think about how I don't know if, I don't know if my mom didn't clean knives, but I distinctly remember that my cantaloupe sometimes would taste like garlic. I know.
Did you have that?

Speaker 2 Oh, you know that? Oh my God.

Speaker 2 So funny. I saw that.
I was like, oh my God, this is everybody lived the same life. Like you're not going to clean the knife in between everything, but then your fruit tastes like garlic.

Speaker 2 When I would see my mom reheat anything with tomato sauce and Tupperware, I'd be like, say goodbye to that Tupperware. It's over.

Speaker 2 That tomato sauce is now embedded in that shit. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Fully.
It's on fire. It's over.
It's melted. Next one from Anonymous.

Speaker 15 Hi, good guys. I'm Extreme Warren who really needs help.
I recently just graduated college in a city that my boyfriend and I had both been living in.

Speaker 15 He's a few years older and accepted a job in a different city a thousand miles away. and I decided to move to live with him in our new city.

Speaker 15 He has a six-figure paying job and because I just graduated, I don't have a job yet, but I'm actively applying. Our rent is super expensive, and I have to give him money every month.

Speaker 15 But this month, because I've been trying so hard to apply for jobs, I don't have a job yet. How do I go about having this financial conversation with him?

Speaker 15 I don't want to make it feel like I am taking money from him or taking advantage from him, but I'm so really frustrated that I don't have a corporate job yet, even though I just graduated.

Speaker 17 Please let me know. Thank you.

Speaker 2 I don't think we have enough information here. Like, what I would say is that the guy kind of sounds like a dick.

Speaker 2 Like, if he, if he knows that you don't have a job, and the reason I said we don't have enough information is like, if you come from money, and like maybe he thinks that like your parents can float you some money for rent, that's a different story.

Speaker 2 But like, if he knows your circumstance, he knows you don't have money, he's making you sweat it. Like, that's not right.

Speaker 2 Like, if you, if you know that your partner doesn't have a job, you should cover them or you should move to a cheaper apartment, right?

Speaker 2 That's what I was saying. Like, a cheaper apartment would solve so much of this.
And when someone moves out to be with the other person, moves to where they have the job, where they're set up.

Speaker 2 And it sounds if it's true, like she's really working hard to find a job.

Speaker 2 And sometimes it takes a couple months that the other partner needs to take on the financial burden if they don't want to be in constant stress and fighting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And like, didn't he have the apartment before she got there? Like all of a sudden now he's a landlord. Like it's weird.
Like didn't he sign up to pay the rent without her there?

Speaker 2 And now all of a sudden he's making his recently graduated girlfriend feel like shit every month because she can't afford to pay half of his rent that he was paying for already? Is chivalry dead?

Speaker 2 I don't know, but haven't you grown up with those couples who like Venmo each other after dinner? And it's just like, now that's uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I have, but at at least they have like a mutual understanding that that's what they're going to do. This girl sounds like she's completely in the dark.

Speaker 2 Like it's like, he knows that she doesn't have a job. How would she have money? How could she afford it? Or he just like doesn't care? Well, clearly she was affording it up to a certain point.

Speaker 2 So maybe she had had a job. Maybe she had some say, I don't know.
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 So yeah, no, those people that Venmo each other after dinner that are in a relationship, that is a, what are you nuts? It's so crazy. Just like trade off.
I'll get it. You get it.
You get get it.

Speaker 2 Trade off. Trade off.
Right. For sure.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that's how I am with my best friends too. Like, that's like a, I hate that.

Speaker 2 Like, if my, like, if like my closest friends, if I go to dinner with you, I'll pay for you. I'll grab it.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 I'm not like, and then there is just this mutual understanding that next time you probably got me. If you don't, I'm not going to hold it against you because I offered.
But I like the trading.

Speaker 2 Trading is, they're real relationships that way, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 Unless like, of course, you can always split it as friends, but it's just me. Little trade.
Last one from Jessica.

Speaker 18 Joshi and Benny. Benny and Joshi.

Speaker 2 Hey, so brevity is key.

Speaker 19 So here we go. My father-in-law has become the town grifter.
He is asking people for money, saying he's going to pay it back with interest, and then he doesn't pay them back.

Speaker 19 and he doesn't answer their phone calls and he basically ghosts them and we keep hearing about this from all kinds of people we don't live there anymore in the town but his reputation is completely tarnished.

Speaker 19 I think my husband should say something to him and basically hold his feet to the fire and make him accountable and make him pay the money back.

Speaker 19 But my husband thinks it's meddling and it's not our business.

Speaker 2 What do you think? I feel very, very terrible for the situation that your husband is in.

Speaker 2 That's very sad. First of all, I have to assume that unless he's just a bad guy, typically a town grifter that goes to neighbors and asks for money with interest is in some financial ruin.

Speaker 2 Maybe this person

Speaker 2 is a gambling addict. Maybe this person is like there's something wrong.
So going to your husband should go to him and find out what's wrong.

Speaker 2 The idea of like holding his feet to the fire to pay them, he probably doesn't have any money. Like, am I wrong, Josh?

Speaker 2 Do neighbors approach neighbors saying that they want loans with interest if they have money? Like, no, he went there because he has no money.

Speaker 2 So to me, natural, like, if you care about your father, you force him into rehab. Like this person needs rehabilitation and that would be what I'd do.

Speaker 2 But the idea of like putting his feet to the fire, you got to pay him back. Like he's broke.
Yeah, there's no paying back here.

Speaker 2 He's broke. Like I don't, it's gone.
That money is gone. Say goodbye to that money.
But what I will say is on the lighter side, sometimes a local town grifter can be killed. Do you know?

Speaker 2 Have you seen this guy, Rodney, on TikTok?

Speaker 2 no i don't think so olivia has you seen me maybe i've seen him i don't know if i've seen rodney rodney lives in philly and he has become famous and he is freaking cute he's 71 and he went he has a degree in finance and he is just he's like the town cayute i think he's got a little bit of a drinking problem and he gets a check on the first and 15 from like government dole or whatever So obviously like that goes pretty quick and he probably needs to stretch like after the 10th or after the 25th.

Speaker 2 And so he walks around and he's really cute and funny and is, you know, offers some entertainment for everyone who lives in the town. And they give him anywhere.

Speaker 2 I don't think you can accept or should be giving someone like that more than like probably 20 bucks at a time.

Speaker 2 But usually he's getting a dollar, maybe five, sometimes 20 when people are really generous.

Speaker 2 The video I saw, it was so cute. He's like talking to this woman and she hands him a 20 and he goes, what is that? And she goes, it's the 20 you asked me for.
He goes, I will pay you back.

Speaker 2 And she goes, No, you won't. He goes, No, I won't because I'm going to spend this like I've stolen.

Speaker 2 And then she goes, What are you going to get, Rodney? He goes, I'm going to get, and he's holding the beer. He goes, I'm going to get another beer and some weed.

Speaker 2 And she goes, No, Rodney. He goes, oh, no, I'm kidding.
No, because, you know, I'm going to get some food because I need to eat. I'm going to get a sandwich and some soup.

Speaker 2 And he goes, you're one of the good ones. You are one of the good ones.
By the way, is Rodney Queen of Melrose?

Speaker 2 Kind of.

Speaker 2 He's the best. And now he's all over my TikTok algorithm.
He sounds great. I got to check out Rodney.
This person's father-in-law is not Rodney. This person's father-in-law is Snake Oil Steve.

Speaker 2 And it sounds to me like he went to his neighbors and asked for 10 grand. I don't think he's going around asking for 20s.
Your relation, your...

Speaker 2 Your reputation doesn't get tarnished for like walking around and asking for 20s, right?

Speaker 2 Like this guy to me sounds it sounds bad and all that i'll say i heard kevin o'leeary say this and i loved it do not loan someone money like that ever expecting to be paid back oh yeah i think it's equally on the lender as it is the person who who's asking for the money because if you're somebody's neighbor and they come to you and they're like i need 10 grand i'll pay you back with interest it's never coming it will never come back so be strong enough to say no or be generous enough enough to say yes.

Speaker 2 And by the way, that's not just Grifter. That's if you have a, if you're investing in a friend's restaurant, in their app, in their new business, like totally, totally.

Speaker 2 They could literally do their very best and it won't work out. So

Speaker 2 give it away. Like if you have the money to invest, give it away.
Give it away. Give it away or don't give it at all.
Agreed. Should we get to our what are you nuts? We absolutely should, Josh.

Speaker 2 Would you like to describe to our patrons what our what are you nuts moment of the week is? I would love to.

Speaker 2 Our what are you nuts moment of the week are gripes with people places and things both big and small whatever's sticking in your craw ben what do you got i'm a slave to my britta josh the brita is a what are you nuts i never was a britta guy okay pre-pregnancy pre-baby i'm hocking these water bottles but let me tell you breastfeeding women drink an incredible amount of water we're talking gallons of water as a result i love water so i'm also drinking water we have two hydro jugs okay They're off-brand Stanley's, two hydro jugs.

Speaker 2 And we, I guess, live in an apartment where we don't want to use the tap. We're using a Brita.
Claudio bought the Brita. She loves the Brita.
Josh, I'm a slave to this Brita. I pour out the Brita.

Speaker 2 I immediately have to refill it. It takes, I don't know, five minutes for the thing to bubble back up.
This Brita is a full-time job. You fill it up, you pour it out.

Speaker 2 It's it's completely, completely useless. Britas, what are you nuts? There is a better way, which is putting a filter on your sink.
Oh, I have a better way. I'm a rich.
Brittas are nuts.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think it would only be a value add. I know you rent, but I would spend the $1,500 or whatever it is and have a handyman come in and do it up, babe.

Speaker 2 It will be the gift that keeps on giving. Is it that? I won't say cheap, but is it that range? If it's $1,500,

Speaker 2 no question. The filter can't be more than like, honestly, I think it's probably just all you're doing, right, is you're sawing a circular hole into the metal part of the sink.

Speaker 2 And then like ours lives right under. We have filter water and we have immediate boiling water.
It's fabulous. Wow, that's rich.
Immediate boiling water. So you're making a cup of tea like that.

Speaker 2 Like that. As fast as I want.
Wow. Oh, my God.
Wow, that's English breakfast, mint, Cylon. I think that's just a color.

Speaker 2 What is Cylon? That is wonderful. Okay, yeah, I'm going to look into it because the Brita, I'm sorry.
They weren't going to pay us anyways. What are you nuts? Brita's nuts.
I'm a slave to my Brita.

Speaker 2 I'm a Brita slave. Invest.
Do it up. Do it up.
You got this.

Speaker 2 I got this. My what are you nuts is? I'm trying to decide which one I want to.
Okay. My what are you nuts is ticking clocks.

Speaker 2 The other day I was sitting in, I was doing this show, this sketch comedy show, and I was sitting in this green room and, or like my own little dressing room, and they had like this beautiful old school clock sitting on one of the tables and all of a sudden I'm just there in the quiet and I hear

Speaker 2 Ben I thought I was in one flu over the cuckoo's nest I was like if this fucking thing what if I wanted to take a nap I got to listen have it aren't we past the tick and the talk aren't we it's over ticking clocks this should just be a phrase We're done.

Speaker 2 We've graduated. I get it.
It's good in an automatic watch. You want to wear a Rolex? Fine.
I don't need to.

Speaker 2 I think I'm like, I thought I was going to lose it. It's a complete woody nuts.
We're both clearly very sensitive to noise, though. I'm sure some people wouldn't bother.
For me, I hear that. I'm done.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking there's a bomb under me. I'm done.
I think I'm in an episode of Charlie's Angels. This is nuts.
What am I? My admission impossible? I would lose my mind. I would lose my mind.

Speaker 2 By the way, another supplementary woody nuts. Hey, Tom Cruise, get a stunt man.

Speaker 2 Don't do your own stunts. What are you nuts? Nuts.
That's nuts. You're 60.

Speaker 2 You should. It's time.
It's time. You know what else? It's time for Josh.
Time for us to end our show. Yep.
Which is five stars. Otherwise, what are you nuts?

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