Gossip Guys with Chace Crawford

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Well, Benny and Josh are here with the great Chase Crawford.

What an honor.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for being here.

Of course, thanks for having me, man.

Yeah, I'm really glad it worked out.

So, yeah, nice to see you guys.

I'm a fan of the pod.

Thanks for having me.

Wow.

You're the best.

You're the best.

Are you really a fan of the pod?

If you are, I'm just so excited.

I said to Josh, I'm like, that is so fucking awesome.

No, I am.

Like,

I actually, I don't know if I text you.

I read your book, you know, a while ago.

You know what I did?

I was listening.

I listened to Brian Kai.

I listened to Compliments podcast.

I don't know if he's done a long time, but I know you guys are good.

Friends, I didn't know until I heard you on his pod.

Yes.

And then, and then I was just, I was just interested in your story.

And I read your book, man.

It was really, really amazing.

So, yeah, I read the book.

Yeah, yeah.

This guy, unbelievable.

Yeah, yeah, you know, handsome, nice.

The the whole package this could be president i'm telling you someone with these gorgeous waspy looks who's a friend of the jews this is it he's holding hands he's bringing people together no this is this is it we need to get you out to saudi arabia and what they're doing over there be a jewish representation for the united states

not that this podcast isn't political at all but i love how people are so surprised that donald trump likes a saudi welcome yeah yeah exactly

A man who loves casinos, of course.

It's the greatest casino in the world.

It's right up his alley.

Yeah.

By the way, not political.

Raise your hand if you wouldn't accept a plane.

What are you nuts?

You're telling me I'm not taking a half a billion dollar plane?

I don't care if Hitler built it himself.

This is insane.

It's so funny.

On the pod the other day, Ben, who's having a beautiful baby, has been trying to figure out a new car to get.

And so he jokingly said, ah, and then Mercedes, you know, Nazis can't do that.

And this person calls into our show.

I didn't even save it because it was too nuts.

And they go, I heard Ben doesn't want a Mercedes.

Totally get it.

But I just got a new Volkswagen.

And let me tell you.

Possibly worse.

Yeah.

Just like a, just like a really quick Google search also would clear that up for them.

Like, that's so funny.

Even though I did get a BMW.

So I did the same thing.

There you go.

That's the same thing.

Best car.

Congrats, by the way, on the both.

Yeah, yeah.

Congrats.

Thank you.

Yeah, we're excited for little man.

I was really pumped when, if it was a girl, I would have been pumped too.

But like, having a guy, like, I didn't take up golf.

We were talking about golf.

I didn't take up golf until I was 17.

If I started at three, maybe I'd be scratched.

You'd be Rory Rory.

Like hitting him in the washing machine.

You know, you'd be good.

So, I mean, yeah, I never got to scratch.

I never could do it.

You know, I was always jealous of those guys who could like take off for a year and then just go out there and shoot, like, you know, 72, you know, it was so good.

You play golf a little bit too?

A little bit?

I'm awful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Garbage.

Oh, I go through phases where I just hate myself.

I hate it.

And I quit.

And, you know, it's like, I have to, you know, it's like, yeah, it's like a bad relationship, but I keep coming back.

It is, but it's so good.

It's so relaxing.

It's so fun.

I don't know.

Like, I, it's, I, I can't, there's no sport like it where there's true camaraderie all the time.

You know, you're having, you're having a hang.

I know.

I know.

My girlfriend and I are like, I didn't know you were such good friends with him.

I'm like, man, you spend four hours in a cart, you know, with someone like

once or twice a week during the pandemic, you become really close.

So, you know, for sure.

For sure.

Let me ask you, first of all, have you, can you hear the voice on this, Chase?

I didn't realize this, these baritone tones.

This guy, it's this guy like us.

He's high T, man.

This guy's high testosterone like us.

It's very good.

It's good to know.

Olivia, did you notice that?

I did notice that.

Three high T Kings.

High T Kings.

It's us.

That's us.

New podcast.

Now, tell me about golf.

Would you make a snap judgment about a person forever if you notice they were cheating at golf?

Yeah, actually.

You know, if they're cheating in the way that's like

kind of in the open and you're like, oh, okay, that's just how.

But if they're like cheating and we're, and we're, we're in a game, you know, another bit of a game, like trying to take it seriously.

Yeah, I would, I would, I would take, I would take, you know, I would take that as a judgment.

Yeah.

I completely agree.

And also, there, there are degrees of cheating.

I just want to clarify.

If I see somebody fluff their ball, there's no issues here.

If you go into the woods, I know that you hit woman on route 60 and you're telling me that you found your ball and then all of a sudden you par, you're a liar.

You're a liar and you're a scumbag.

Okay.

If you're dropping the ball down the pant leg, you know, and you didn't, you couldn't find it.

I mean, that's, that's the bridge to work.

Correct.

Absolutely.

But yeah, but if the rules, if the rules aren't, if you know, you have the rule, like, okay, where if, if it's all, you can move your ball at club length or move it out of the wood chips, like if that's like a, you know, a communal thing, you, you establish that.

And if they, if they mess that up, then yeah, I would be, I'd be ticked off.

Agreed.

Now you're both moguls.

Fortune 500, impressive men, right?

Then you entrepreneur in that world chase you in old school Hollywood, babe, not new school Hollywood like me, influencer.

But

it's not you.

It's not you.

You're old school Hollywood.

You invented Hollywood.

They always say, like, the business gets done on the links.

Like, have you ever played golf with some impressive people and maybe gotten apart on the links?

Tell us everything.

Yeah, no, I haven't been.

I really haven't been a part of that.

I mean, I've played with some probably impressive people, but I've not seen.

No, I mean, for me personally, my favorite was Jim Nance.

I got to play like Cypress with Jim Nance.

He's like a member.

And just because of my brother-in-law, but to have Jim Nance, and we were what we're, you know, we're walking down the tea and, you know, hello, friends.

And he's, you know, I kind of like narrating, telling the story of Cypress.

And that was like my most favorite, like, kind of like person I ever played.

And he's like a national treasure.

He's a gem, you know.

So, uh, but no, I've never like done like serious business on the golf course.

No.

No, like Mark Wahlberg and you at the riv.

right you know

i don't know if mark wahlberg plays with anybody i think he like you know works out at 2 a.m and then like plays like speed golf by himself at like 6 a.m yes he's like like like riding the golf court and just you know hacking it with one hand like polo you know like he's done like an hour and a half like i don't know how he does it but yeah man you know it's it's definitely a great place it's not a great place i never understood people closing deals on the golf course but getting to know someone that you're going to do a deal with and letting them know that you're a normal, fun person, I think is a really, really great way to advance a deal.

Like I haven't clipped anything, but I've built relationships that I wouldn't have been able to build.

You can't like ask an investor to dinner and it be casual.

That's right.

It's like, it's, you know, like that's what it is.

Totally true.

That's completely true.

And I've like played golf with like, and I, you know, the show I'm on is on Amazon.

I was at this like golf tournament, kind of a charity thing.

And we were in this group and like, you know, I played with this guy for four hours and we all, you know, became friends.

And later on, I realized when he came up to me, it's some Amazon party.

Like, oh, he's like the main guy at Amazon Studios.

You know,

it's like, you know, the PR goes like, he wants to like see you.

I was like, we played golf for like eight hours, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why I was like, that's great.

You know,

be nice to everyone that you play golf with because you never know.

That's a lesson for sure.

Yeah.

You never know, even if he's short and annoying.

And

what else?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so, Ben, have you being in sort of

being about to give birth to your beautiful son, Bruch Hashem, are you going to not, how long are you giving yourself to play golf again?

Forever?

I'm going to be in the Hamptons this summer.

I'm sure, Chief, you know, there's some of the fucking best courses ever out there.

In the world.

I mean, in the whole country for sure.

Yeah.

Like, I'm not going to lie.

If I get a shot at Sagaponic, I'm letting my wife know I need it.

I need it.

And hopefully she says yes, knowing my wife she'll say no, and I'll be totally fine with that.

So I probably, Josh, I will play golf again in 2026.

I think that's, I think that's safe to say.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow, but it's sad.

The courses out there are so nice.

So nice, man.

Yeah.

It's great.

Like literally, Josh, in this small, I don't know how many miles.

I don't even want to guess.

There's like the top five courses in the world.

They're sitting out there between.

Chinocock and Ridge and National and Atlantic.

And it's insane.

And all of them are more expensive than the next.

Like million plus initiations.

Right, right, right.

And then the wait list for 10 years, you know.

And then you have schmucks like me who show up as a guest.

That's the way to do it.

You know, I know.

I don't, I never got it.

You just have rich friends.

You know, that's the way it is.

I guess somebody has to be a member.

I don't know why it has to be me.

Right.

I know.

And you don't feel pressured to use it.

You know, you're just going to pop in, you know, get the invite.

You know, it's so fun about like, I forget in the Northeast how many things are have native names.

And then also knowing like the people, like the kids from Brooklyn that I grew up with, who'd be like, I'm a hardcore American and I go to Sagaponic

and I'm an American or like, or in LA, right?

I'll be like, we're going to go have a wonderful time in Incinitas.

I'm like,

guys,

what are you talking about here?

Yeah.

Yeah, I know.

And so, yeah.

The whole, the whole Hamptons is like that.

Before you get to the Hamptons, you pass Riverhead.

Yeah.

Like, that's the last place before the Hamptons.

And the Hamptons is all native.

Montauk is the most native, and we just, like, took it and ruined it for surf lodge.

But, like, it's, it's gorgeous.

Surflodge is still around?

It is.

Yeah.

It's around.

It's around.

It's still the

hot young thing.

Yeah.

Is it like a yeah, if you're looking for that?

All the kids where all the kids go and it's like eating.

So, yeah, day parties.

It's the beats.

I ain't looking for that anymore.

Yeah.

yeah no it's josh circa 2015.

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Yeah, speaking of like working in, because when did you make gossip girl in New York from like 06 to yeah, 07 to like 13, 2013, I think I left.

Yeah.

And you're what in your mid-20s then?

Yeah, I was 21.

I think I was 21 when I shot the pilot and then 22 or something when we started the start of these series.

So yeah.

I have to say

quick, just quickly, because you broached the subject.

Growing up in the city.

I want you to know you had, you don't need me to tell you that you had a chokehold on every kid that went to high school in the city, but me and my wife absolutely devoured that show and

watched it again in full like last year.

Did you?

I love it.

Yeah, we've had these waves on Netflix.

It's just so good.

Like it was, it was great.

Your character, Nate was amazing.

And I don't know if you get sick of talking about it.

Josh is sick of Drake and Josh.

I know.

But you were, but you were amazing.

And Thank you, thank you.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like vintage now.

I feel like I'm like, this is the same age, same age girl.

I was Jen.

I'm like, how old are you?

You know,

we just watched it on Netflix, like the fourth, you know, like wave.

I'm like, it's so fascinating.

You know, it's like, you know, I was looking at like one of the actors on there, like, what the guy who played Penn's dad or whatever, and he was like, my age now.

You know, I'm like, oh my God, that's so bizarre.

But yeah, what did it feel like?

Because when we did, when I did my show, I was young, right?

It was from 14 to 19.

Right.

And we're in LA, which is an industry town.

Yeah.

And it's a kids' show, right?

So it's like, we're famous to kids at that time.

And in L.A., it's not odd to see an actor or whomever walking around.

But New York, even though it has a huge entertainment hub, is not just one industry town, right?

It's finance, it's everything.

Yeah.

So.

The show's crushing.

You're 22, 23, New York.

Is that an exciting time?

What's that like?

Yeah.

No, it was so.

I mean, you you know, I'm from like Texas.

So it was like a small town in Texas and then kind of Dallas, which was like a big city to us growing up.

And then I went to college in LA.

So that was like my first experience.

So I kind of took these steps.

But then going to New York and I didn't finish college and I still didn't really feel like a grownup.

You know, it was like kind of, I'd like borrow money from my dad to even get an apartment there.

And I had to, you know, split it with one of the guys on the show because it was so expensive.

I borrowed money from my dad.

So then those check stars showing up.

And I'm like, and on the show, it was like this.

Yeah, it was wild, like being in such a big, I felt like my, on my own, you know, for the first time and like having like agency.

And it was like, it was wild, man.

Yeah, we didn't really fathom like, like, being that sort of overnight, like a sensation on, on some TV show.

It was really pretty, pretty wild.

It was, it was a lot of fun.

It was a lot, a lot of fun, man.

Yeah.

Like people kind of open, you know, welcomed us and we kind of had the keys to the city in a sense, you know, and yeah, it was really special.

But yeah, there was that thing where, and New York's a tourist city, so every, you know, everyone wants to come visit you in New York, but it's like, in LA, everyone's kind of like, you know, you know, like, too cool, too cool.

They're like, you know, they like, you know, like, I almost treat you.

like shittier.

Like, you know what I mean?

But it's funny.

In New York, like there would be that thing where you feel like you were, you know, since it was a New York show and New York was like a character in the show.

Walking around, you kind of felt like in a Mickey Mouse costume at Disneyland.

And people were like, oh my God, it's Nate.

Or, you know, whatever.

Like, they're always like, well, hey, you know, and it was like, hi.

And and so there was that, like, that weird thing where it was, you're, oh, you're always walking in the city.

And so there was kind of that, like, that thing where people would, you know, recognize you from the show or whatever.

But it was, it was such a great experience, man.

I can't speak highly, more highly of like New York.

And like, you know, and it was like, you know, I was so young and it was, we had a great job.

And so

New York was so romanticized in my, in my mind and memory.

You know, every time I go back there, it's like, oh, it just feels so nostalgic in a way.

Yeah.

It was good.

Mickey Mouse is such an interesting comparison because I was going to say the best or one of the best parts of that show is that they really captured the perfect New York, but all of it was very, very real.

Like, I don't think I've seen that anywhere else.

Like everywhere, like even to like the, like where you guys went to school, it all lines up perfectly with secular private school.

Like it's whoever wrote it must have lived it because it was perfect to a T.

Nothing was fabricated.

Right.

Right.

I've never seen that.

Like you have like LA-based shows like the OC.

I'm not saying that like that's not like a perfect representation of the OC.

I actually think Gossip Girl was the perfect representation of being sort of elitist high school, private school Manhattanite.

Yeah.

And people would tell us that even from these schools, they were obsessed and they say, oh, you nailed it.

And I still couldn't like wrap my head around the fact that they were saying it was accurate.

You know what I mean?

I think.

And

they lost the plot a little bit when I'm like a congressman.

You know, like, I went I'm gonna go from like 17 in high school to like, you know, running for Congress and coming out of a private plane.

So funny.

And like, Chuck owns hotels?

No, like, you know, like, what's happening?

But no, I mean, obviously it was like a fan of like, you know, aspirational or whatever.

But, but the city representation, they did such a good, I mean, there's like, you know, gossip row bus tours now.

You can go and see the little

sites.

And, but yeah, they did, they did a great job.

And I think, you know, I think they were like talking, like, when we first started, I was like, oh, it's got they're going to shoot in like New York or Toronto.

And I'm like, like, well, they made the right choice, right?

Because I don't think they could have doubled what New York City is and how it was basically like one of the biggest characters in the show.

You know, like the reality of that.

So.

Oh, my God.

What a disaster Gossip Girl would have been if it was in Toronto.

Can you imagine, Josh, the backlash if they pretended Toronto was New York City?

That'd be amazing.

This is in suits.

It'd be funny.

It'd be funny and see.

You're yelling at Lake Meese.

Like, what are you so mad about?

Like,

just up to her knees in snow.

Oh, man.

Yeah, it's funny because growing up.

in the city, like all I went to performing arts high school.

And so a lot of my friends at that time were like young actors in the city.

And Gossip Girl was like the teenager Law and Order SVU.

Like every teen actor I know, they were in their early 20s, like doing it, doing two days on GG,

playing a nerd on Gossip Girl, got an under five.

I was like, let's go, Jeremy.

Are you still close with the cast members?

Like, do you still talk to them?

Or do you guys have a group chat?

Is there a gossip girls group girl?

There's no more group chat.

Yeah.

Yeah, I know.

It was like, I remember the first iPhone came out in 07 right as we started the show.

And so we didn't, we never really had that.

You know, we missed like that social media kind of thing, that moment.

But yeah, no, it's, it's kind of like college where you had this amazing experience and I loved everybody.

And like when you see them, you're like, oh my God, come here and like catch up.

I literally ran into Layton at a Beyonce concert the other week.

My girlfriend, like, we, we, whatever.

I got, I got taken to a Beyonce concert and then Layton walks in and like, it was so loud.

We're like, what?

How are you?

You know, trying to catch up.

And anyway, we ended up grabbing like breakfast like a couple of days later and chatted for like three hours almost, like catching up.

And so it's like that, you know, and she's awesome.

She's in LA.

And, you know, I feel like half the, you know, Penn and Blake, they they live in New York.

And so I'll still text with them occasionally and try and like, we'll try and like get together.

I'll run to Ed, you know, he's living in London now.

So it's, everyone's like, you know, spread out, has their family, has the kids.

And so it's kind of like that, you know, where you catch up when you can, you know.

Yeah, it's interesting.

Like, I have that with a few people, especially I did this show in Vancouver for a year over COVID.

And you naturally get super close with people you work with on a movie or a TV show, but we were locked into a country in a bubble for nine months and so i haven't seen most of these people in four years and yet we'll talk on the group chat people will announce that someone's pregnant or whatever that's so great though i feel such a love for these people yes that i don't think could have been accomplished if it wasn't like it's like a camp relationship it is like camp isn't it steroid bonding on steroids right but as we get older we need those group chat i mean you know you can say what you want like some people hate them but like it's fun to see that group chat get fired up from something like that a really good experience with these people you had, right?

I mean, and like you feel that love.

Like that's that's nice.

Like I wish we, I mean, we got we got the boys group chat going, you know, that's that's still rocking, but there's no GG group chat.

We missed that boat.

You know some comic.

Sorry, I was just going to say, you know, some Comic-Con kids just heard that there's a boys group chat and finish.

The climax.

Sorry, sorry, man.

I was just going to say, I love a group chat, but you also got to know when the group chat.

There are long-term group chats and there are short-term.

Like,

I have people that are still like replying to a bachelor party group chat.

It's like, dude, it's enough.

We've been back from the bachelor party for nine months.

We met for three days.

I'm not, it's over.

And then they're like, I have like my one real group chat is called the Brunson Boys.

And we just get fired up about the Knicks.

Is that a Knicks podcast?

There we go.

I I mean, Knicks group chats.

That's a Knicks group chat that my wife thinks is incredibly homosexual, the Brunson boys.

We love it.

We love it.

And sure, it's a little gay.

Who cares?

Or the Knicks call it zesty.

Carl Anthony Towns is zesty.

Have you seen those pictures?

They're so good.

Have you seen the memes?

No, no, no, what is it?

No, I have not.

Oh, my God.

When he like finger rolls, he just like finishes like this.

Like, he's just so.

Oh, that's hilarious.

So zesty.

And he's straight.

He dates Jordan Woods, but like, and he leans into it too.

It's, it's so fun.

Big game tomorrow.

Is it tomorrow night or is it tonight?

Huge.

And I just, we can cut this out, but I just got a text from my agent that she got me tickets.

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah.

I love her because I was about to fork like insane amount

five grand.

Like it's just psychotic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it's Knicks game six.

Amazing.

That's huge.

It's the furthest they've been since 99.

Hopefully that's a huge party over there.

Yeah, it's going to be great.

So I hope so.

Nice.

I hope so.

Do the Knicks give you free free tickets you know it's funny i was just in new york and i hadn't been in a long time and i was you know again with my girlfriend and yeah it was it was game two against what was it the pistons yeah it was pistons i spent so many games and and and they used to they used to be so i mean i mean like in la i can't get tickets to save my life it's like everyone with their dog wants to go to the lakers kings whatever clippers but in new york like gosh i used to be i used to be hot you know i could get like the like the rangers games we get good tickets nicks so i hit up stephanie my manager.

You know, I just, I was like, hey, you know, don't want to be like a pain in the ass, but like, you know, is there any way to get maybe reach out?

You know, those VIP people, like, the nice, cool suite or whatever.

And, and they put in the request, and then, yeah, they, they, they came through with the tickets.

It was, it was incredible.

Yeah, it was incredible.

There's nothing like the garden, you know, it's just nothing like that energy.

So, Josh, this is the good pull.

This is the good

playoffs into it.

The garden, yeah, Josh and I always, Josh, and I always joke: like, if you even sniff an extra on SVU, the garden will throw you tickets.

But if you haven't touched regular TV, they, it's go fuck yourself.

I only get given tickets when Josh is in town, and they still stick us in the 13th row.

The garden needs to do better.

And if Timothy Chalamet are there, he's just absorbs all the gravity of all the cameras.

You don't have to worry about it.

You're not going to get put up on the jumbo.

I mean, it's all Timothy, you know, over there.

Can we talk about Timothy Chalamet, who is just, I don't know if you've seen Josh.

He's replaced Spike Lee as the Knicks fan.

Like, Spike Lee missed one game.

He went to the Met Gala, and that's it.

He's out.

Spike is out.

Timothy was on the road.

He's gone to every game.

He's traveling.

Yeah.

He's traveling.

He's sitting front row at every game.

He's crushing it.

Yeah.

Wow.

He's living the life.

I mean, I get living the life.

I get, you know, I get field side tickets for the LA Galaxy.

I know.

I'm just kidding.

And it's a nice time, you know.

MLS soccer guys, fucking get on board.

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But let me ask you guys this too, because like obviously it's a great, wonderful, like, who am I to talk crap about?

A beautiful freebie, a blessing like this.

It's a lot of, I feel, whenever I've been gifted these kinds of tickets, a lot of pressure showing up because, A, like, there's a chance someone's looking at you.

There could be a camera on you.

I want to be horsing down fucking nachos.

I don't want to get a ball to the face.

I got to sing courtside for an Orlando Magic game in January.

Shout out.

It was one of the greatest experiences of my life just because it allowed me to enjoy basketball at the highest level that close was beyond.

Right.

But I was like, you're going to get a ball to the face.

And it like, pay attention.

It was the most terrifying three hours of my life.

Like I wanted to text.

I wanted to huff down some pretzels.

I couldn't.

Yeah.

It'll also ruin basketball for you, though.

How can you sit anywhere else?

Like once you're that close, you see the action, you hear the players, you hear the coaches.

It's just it's so much more than a game when you're that close it really it is so unparalleled it ruins and then you it ruins it like to the point that like i would rather watch on tv like if you're not really really really close because you get you you have more of the action you have the commentators you can actually see the fouls like it's just it it ruins you're on the same level as you guys like oh wow they're like two of me yeah they're very very big big humans you know huge yeah huge it's the energy is different i know you get even get like 15 rows mid mid-court and like great seats like i need binoculars it's like you know it's so yeah it's so it's it ruins you for sure did you ever play in any of these celebrity basketball games no no no basketball i'm terrible at basketball yeah i've like i played in a few like you know celebrity chair like charity type event i mean golf golf charity type events things which are which are fun but still nerve-wracking i mean even like the basketball thing i'm sure is nerve-wracking have you played in any of that stuff yeah yeah yeah it's like probably nerve-wracking right i mean i was like, thank God I was under the influence.

I wasn't sober yet.

It was great.

And so, like, I wasn't really in my body for four and a half years.

But, yeah, I'm just like, hey, like, think quick Brody Jenner.

Like, I'm just like,

so stupid.

And, like, Baron Davis is screaming at me.

I'm like, Baron, really?

Like,

oh,

you know, I'm like, I'm being defended by a guy in the ninth season of Survivor.

I'm like, get fucked.

it's amazing yeah no i've never i i try and stay away from those things now you know approaching 40 i don't you know i just want to just don't want to pull a hammy you know so oh oh terrible but i also want that i also have a disdain for when actors get too butch you know or like too into something like have you ever had something where you've had to prepare for a role or like i remember remember when top gun came out and shout out they obviously all crushed it but like when Miles Teller and Glenn Powell they were all like oiled up and everyone's like doing push-ups before the scene like I just don't think I would fit in

I think I'd just be like guys

what's going on here but

I think you I think you'd fit in just fine I don't know Chase if you can see I don't know if you can see his arms from here but Josh is swollen

God bless you but like you know I don't know I don't think I can take myself that seriously right right you know I know it's like it's it's how are you with that kind of stuff like the workout stuff, or just kind of like, I mean, you, you do, you know, like you, like with the boys and stuff, you are playing those kind of guys that are elevated in that way.

But right.

Are you comfortable in that setting?

Are you like, oh, I really have to kind of get myself there?

I, you know, exactly.

I feel like you have to like, you really get yourself there.

And I think, you know, yeah, my experience with it, I wanted to kind of do that for the boys starting out.

And, and yeah,

I kind of backed myself into a corner there, right?

Cause I kind of got in this, in this shape.

And I'm like, oh, shit, I got to keep this up every season, like that it comes around and so yeah i feel like you can there's a fine line between like obsession with it you know what i mean like a healthy like there's like the the line to be unhealthy is with that is kind of blurry and you can kind of cross over into into that like you know negative relationship with it pretty easily you know so i i don't i don't really like you know all that stuff

so much you know it's just you can get too obsessive over it because it's it's a bit unrealistic you know because you're doing it for like for the show or the moment or the scene and so it's like, it's really tough to get there and

actually maintain that as like a lifestyle.

You know what I'm saying?

And I think it's healthier to not try and maintain that.

You know what I mean?

I think it's always healthier just to like let that go.

So.

Yeah.

I remember I did this movie, Red Dawn, where Chris Hemsworth and I played brothers because that's believable.

That's amazing.

No, the movie is great.

And he got Thor before while he was doing Red Dawn.

Wow.

So he had to be in great shape for Red Dawn, but Thor was the next level.

And he had like three or four months to prepare and i remember he would like i remember once i like caught him welling up because he couldn't eat enough because he had to get he felt the dream

dream but it's like the dream

chicken and rice and veggie you know it's not fun because he just felt like i need to i'm playing thor like i need to be superhuman you know he's already 6'4 but like he wanted to put on 20 30 pounds of muscle right and and then i remember we had filmed for three months and he'd been working out savagely he looked incredible and in december he had to go and try on the thor suit before he started filming in february and he comes back and he goes i outgrew the suit suit doesn't fit anymore and they told me to stop gaining weight and lose some wow because they were like you don't wow they were like the camera doesn't pick up size it picks up cut and shape right and they're like you're too big you're too jacked like yeah he was just a massive they They were like, lean it all.

It's interesting.

It's tough.

Yeah, no, I know.

And you, I don't know how you deal with it for like a Marvel shoot for like, you know, six months or whatever it is.

But, but yeah, the cut thing does show up a little bit more, you know, on camera.

Like the size thing you can be like short, tall, whatever, and big, but like the cut thing is kind of what

shows.

Yeah.

And that's tough.

You know, there's like, you know, you really got to kind of focus, you got to focus on like the unlike numbers.

And I don't want to be weighing, like i'm too old to be weighing food or getting on a scale like i'm not like think i don't like to think about anything like that you know so right and i think you can you know kind of develop some unhealthy habits like that way you know yeah i did i definitely did for a minute like kind of like you know slipped into some some you know kind of obsessive you get obsessed with food a little bit it's just not not healthy yeah so yeah yeah one of us talk about a food food obsess

probably coming from a different angle but

have you even yeah tell me Ben, you're playing a superhero in, you know, the Israelite returns, right?

Yes.

So

what, what's your regimen look like?

How much turmeric and how much Munjaro are you injecting today?

So, so much,

so much Munjaro.

It's so much.

At least 0.35, because right now it's humming, Chase.

It's humming.

The turmeric is great as well.

I wonder, like, just hearing you talk about Chris eating to gain weight, that like thought is so foreign to me.

Like the idea of, or sorry, eating to be bigger and stronger.

Like if I want to be bigger and stronger, I need to eat so much less.

Like that's my body.

Like if I need to eat protein, of course, but like I can't just like be eating calories.

I'll just get fat.

right like i need to if i want to cut down or like get cut which is like so foreign to me i would need to eat less it's just a crazy thing so what would i do i would eat a lot of chicken ton of chicken.

I'd probably have you inject me with some beautiful GLPs and testosterone and whatever else the kids are doing.

The kids are doing something crazy.

What are the kids taking?

Peptides is all your geek here.

Shout out, Craig Connover, Dr.

What are the kids in Hollywood taking right now for these roles?

What are they taking to look like this?

I wish I knew, to be honest.

I mean,

I know they're taking something.

I wish I knew.

I really don't.

I mean, I've heard peptides, but like, I, you know, I looked it up just to say, what the hell is all this about?

And there's like 50 different alphanumeric, you know, types.

So I'm like, wow.

And like, are you ordering these off the internet?

And then like injecting, like, what's going on?

Chase, you know, me?

I know me,

shout out Dr.

Connover.

I think he's a Conover Wellness, Charleston, South Carolina.

Yeah, really?

I mean, yeah.

Like, like, yeah.

Like, okay.

But do they like, like, you know, do they work?

Like, does it give you energy?

Like, not in the eyes of the FDA.

Kids are doing, right?

I mean, yeah.

I mean, I'll say it if you can't.

I've definitely known a lot of actors growing up, less now in my late 30s, who were like, certainly taking Roy's or human dogs.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they were, and for the, for the kind of roles and things that I'm going out for, it wasn't worth the trade.

I remember we had on a famous Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, this guy, guy, Dr.

Jason Diamond.

Okay, right.

And he was saying how there are some really famous actresses that have come to him asking for the buckle fat removal from their cheeks.

Interesting.

To give them kind of that more like angular, mottly look.

Right.

And he goes, I know, and I tell them, this won't look good in your 50s.

because of whatever you've got going on anatomically in your face.

Like you're going to want that fat back as you get older.

Right.

But he's like, it's a trade.

Like they feel it, you know, late 20s, early 30s are having such a moment that they'd rather look insane for this 10-year runway.

And then deal with it later.

Yeah.

Right, right, right.

I mean, it's that, it's that movie.

What movie was that came out?

The substance.

The substance.

It's literally the substance.

Yeah, right.

That's literally it.

A trade-off.

You get one day of looking hot and it eats away at your body.

Played the Piper later.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What a scary movie.

Yeah, I've never messed with any of that stuff, you know, to stop it, whatever.

It just feels like you know there's there's a trade-off down there with what what what you know it you know restricts production of the natural hormones it's like i don't want to screw with that you know unless i have to you know unless i'm in actually like fifth years and need it you know but yeah i don't really know what the people i assume it's like something like you know like the testosterone cocktail of sorts yeah yeah so wow you know

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i'm interested to know because you've done this thing that i think is very rare to go from one huge beloved show to another one and usually as actors you don't get like another sophomore hit in the tv space totally how much did you really have to angle for that was that something that you were it was more just lucky what was the thought process in in jumping into the second show yeah i think i think people think well first of all they think that actors you know make a ton more money and have way more agency than we actually do depending on sort of where you are but i was in i felt like i was in the wilderness for like years after gossip girl because i felt you know as big of a show it was coming off as a young still young guy it's like oh that's not cool you know anymore and and i'm in this box now i'm in this like jail of like the cw pretty boy who you know what i mean who can't and has no range so i felt that and and i was probably harder harder on myself than I needed to be.

But I, it wasn't like I, I just remember that, that audition hitting my inbox and reading the synopsis, I was like, that sounds wild.

And then like reading this pilot, I was like, oh, this is fucking great.

You know, this is so out there and original and weird.

And the specific role of the deep, you know, like being like, I'm like, I know that guy, you know,

I know a hundred of those guys basically.

So instantly felt confident and excited like about my take on the character.

Like, I'm just going to go in there and do what I think is, is funny for this guy.

Now, I hope they appreciate the comedy.

I didn't know what, I didn't even know what the tone was going to be, but I had to go in and I went and read for it.

You know, yeah, I went and read for it.

I had no, it was like the, I got, I got there, I was like last up, and there was like literally like 50 names on the sheet.

I was, I was like a little, like, a little annoyed because I was like, I, it was, I was like last in the room.

And I just, I just feel like I don't like, like that.

I feel like, oh, they've seen all these people all day.

They want to go home.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like to kind of me go first.

So I was, I her sitting there and I had to wait like 20 minutes, which is fine.

But like, you just, it was just like, I just felt bad.

That was like the last step.

Like, oh, God, they're not going to remember any of this.

But it was Eric Crippy, the creator.

Like, he was in every session and every day for, for, for all the reads, just right there with the casting director.

And they had a reader there.

And I just felt so, I felt so confident with the scenes.

I went in there and one was pretty dark, kind of a dark scene where you're screaming at the girl.

And then, and another one was like.

A monologue on the couch with like talking to your, his, is the deep therapist or something about like the local lobster is his only friends, you know?

And, and I got, I, I got some laughs at a Kripke and I was like, okay, you know, and, and, you know, that was it.

I mean, it was just a normal audition read that I, something I really wanted, you know, just based on like reading it.

So it really wasn't my choice at all, you know, and it was, it was Seth, you know, Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg were producing it.

It was like a really cool thing.

And, and then they instantly were like, oh, yeah, we want to test you like off that one audition.

I was like, well, do I, can I, can I go back in again?

Like, can I go back in and do it better?

You know what I mean?

I was kind of like nervous that they were going to use that, but it all, it all worked out and it was really fast.

And it was great.

It was, it was a great, you know, I was so happy to have another job that I was excited about that was that the character was so different from anything I had done before, you know, and being, I saw it as dark comedy.

I mean, it was very dark the first season, what he does in like the first episode, but it was just a way to show range.

And I thought that I was going to like, I'm going to use this opportunity to really try and do whatever I can with it.

And yeah, and then even then, it was a series pickup.

So we shot the whole eight episodes without ever airing.

And they were going to order another one before even the first season aired.

But we were like,

is this going to land with anybody?

I mean, it was such a crazy tonal shift of like, you know, the idiot narcissistic dolphin boy and then like the evil Superman character, like, you know, not saving a plane, letting a whole plane of people like go down.

It's like, is anyone going to connect?

And they did.

So it was, when it came out, it was like a kind of, you know, a hit and then kind of grew.

It kind of was a slow building in the audience like 2020 second season aired and it became even bigger and that was a lot of fun that was the first time I really really enjoyed like the fan feedback from you know from people in the street in the streets but yeah but but no like like and and to but it was not lost on me how difficult after kind of those four years of like like kind of some false starts on some TV shows of like oh this is could be difficult you know to find another thing and I was really really appreciative when that when this happened because i i was kind of like oh man like it's just and that and that one sort of audition you know when you when you get down that that one that one audition could really change and you you kind of know what like i'm on this i'm on this new kind of crazy journey now with this other show and these new people that's that's really cool so i was very appreciative of that yeah after being on something like gossip girl where not that i took it for granted it was just so fresh and i was so young that you kind of inevitably by the end of it have taken some things for granted you know sure yeah so well you know ben Ben is a big fan of Glee.

The show is.

I love Glee.

I love it.

Yeah.

Love it.

Love it.

I recently watched that start to finish again, too.

Fantastic.

Did you?

Yeah.

No, that was right when even Gospel was big.

Like, we, my parents, loved it.

We all watched that back then.

I knew a lot of those guys on there.

Yeah, it's great.

Ben's TV taste is always.

I was going to say, I needed to know where that was going.

Did I caught astray on Glee?

I'm currently on episode 12 of The Sopranos' first watch through.

There you go.

Yeah.

Josh, I've been meaning to tell you, I am Tony's mother.

Hell yeah.

You are.

I'm Tony's mother.

Like, I pretend that I'm senile.

I really, like, rat on people.

I really like, it's like, she's a little bit of the control thing, but she just guilts people, guilts them to no end.

She's so Jewish, Tony's mom.

And honestly, the Jewish undertones, while they also are so anti-Semitic, it's gold.

It's spot on.

Like it was so clearly written by Jews and they just like threw in those.

It wasn't.

They have Tony using the word Shnora.

I'm like, why are you using the word Shnora, Tony?

Because he's a fucking Schnorr.

It's so good.

It's so good.

I have range with TV for sure.

Range.

I love all great deep characters.

And I'm telling you, Josh, Glee, there are some deep characters.

That Rachel Berry, she's fantastic.

Okay.

Hey, should we get this?

So we do this thing called Speakpipe, where people call into the show and leave messages.

They want advice.

They want to hear some input.

Do you want to jump in on some?

For sure, yes.

All right.

If you want to give us questions, advice, go to speakpipe.com/slash good guys.

Keep it brief.

Brevity is key.

I can't stress that enough.

Brief, brief, brief.

Let's hear first from, ooh, this is good.

First from Anonymous.

Hey, good guys.

I'm going to send this to the toast too.

And hopefully you both read it and respond because, or I guess you're listening to it, because I want a male and female perspective.

And yes, I'm going to make it about gender.

So I went on a date last night, first date with a guy, and he was very open about the fact that he is divorced.

And when I was like prying into deeper about his divorce, he said that he cheated on his ex-wife and that obviously led to their divorce.

And I'm just curious, like, is knowing that an automatic red flag?

Can people change?

He did this a couple years ago.

I'm not like head over heels for him.

Obviously, it's a first date, but like, should that be an automatic, like, no?

Or should he like hear them out?

Obviously, people make mistakes in the past.

And, you know, it's just, it's posing an interesting question.

And I would love your thoughts.

Bye-bye.

I think the fact that he told you says something about him.

He didn't have to tell you that he cheated on his ex-wife.

Like a real scumbag wouldn't tell you at all.

True.

That said, I do think that it's a red flag to cheat on your spouse.

I also, I don't know, we don't know the whole story.

That's the problem with these speak pipes.

They never give us enough information.

Like, how was their marriage?

Was she not like, was there a reason?

I'm not trying to victim blame, but there are sometimes reasons, you know.

You never know.

Yeah, was she a stingy lover?

Sorry.

Maybe.

What?

Maybe.

It's possible.

I don't know.

It's probably a red flag, but you could do some more research to see if it's not.

Right.

I feel like the dating, I feel like it's tough out there.

I don't know.

You know, I feel like it's a tough, tough dating scene out there for, well, both genders, but yeah, I mean, if like, you know, like you said, I think that's a good point.

If he's, if he's coming out and being very direct with like, hey, I, I'm single, I'm divorced, but it was my fault I cheated, Like, you know, maybe give it a second date, but that's a red.

I think it's a red flag.

Yeah, for sure.

You know, it's not a green flag.

Oh, yeah, green, green light.

Let's go.

You know, yeah.

It also makes you think the fact that he was so open, like, hey, I'm Jeff.

I cheated.

It's like, what, what else?

Have you been to prison?

Yeah, are you love bombing her now?

Like, there was, like, there was a little bit too much, like too forward.

Like,

oversharing, right?

Save something for the third date.

Right.

Like, sure.

What about, what do you think, Olivia?

I agree with the sentiment that I think it says something about his character, that he was honest and said that up front, but also just like proceed forward with caution.

I think that if you have good chemistry, like maybe see what happens, but keep that piece of information tucked, you know, aside.

But ultimately, I think it like, I don't know, people can change, but you know, I think it depends on your connection and if you think it's worth dealing with the murky waters of it all.

Right.

Josh, I think it depends how you cheated.

I think if it was like, oh, I had, you know, an ex who I still had feelings for and we ran into each other, blah, blah, blah.

That's one thing.

And if it's like, I saw someone attractive near the carousel at Central Park and we rendezvoused in the Rambles.

Well, then no,

that's different.

That might be your sex addict.

In the rambles.

In the rambles.

No, I don't know.

It's cheating's a tough, it's a tough thing.

I don't know.

I mean, I think, Ben, you and I have talked about it.

And I don't know how you feel, Chase, but like, I have people that I love and respect.

Like, I know I respect them and love them as people.

It's as much as I could tell about anyone.

And they've cheated.

Like,

they've had relationships end, unfortunately, because there was some sort of infidelity.

And I go like,

and I don't know.

I think if I made that like a, that's not cool with me.

We can't be friends anymore.

I'd lose a lot of friends.

I think a lot of people cheat.

It's not okay.

But I don't know.

What do you think, Ben?

I just think that there's a clear distinction between a cheater who's an asshole and a cheater whose relationship was in trouble and they weren't good enough at vocalizing that.

Like, like they, like, they should have.

You should never cheat on someone, but if your relationship's terrible and your partner's terrible, the best thing to do is break up with them and then have sex with somebody.

But there, things happen, right?

But if you're, if your spouse was unbelievable to you and you took advantage of that and cheated on her then you're an asshole like that's you know what i mean like cheaters aren't just cheaters there's there are different i think i think that there are different types of reasons why one would cheat i don't think any of them are necessarily acceptable

if you're like firing up your your dating app or or the dms actively like serious seriously hiding it and then maybe you know it's a it's a relationship that's at a low point.

You're in a weak moment, have a weak moment, and then you can't sleep at night because you feel so guilty and tell her.

I mean, you know, that's a those are two different types of people you know 100 so 100 i mean yeah i mean is it is it shitty but you know yes and no matter how you slice it but yeah it's it's no fun but to your point about having friends that cheat josh i actually don't think that i could be friends with somebody who was the cheating type that was just a scumbag like like his like his wife wanted to bring him to avoid him kind of a thing

exactly like he's like a he's like a great she's like a great mom and takes care of the kids while he's what what's the name of tony's hooker what do they call him

Yeah, Gumar.

Has a gumar.

Like, I don't need that.

Like, you don't need gumars while you have your beautiful family.

This fucking bed kids are fucking square.

God, that gumar was such a snoro.

It's a good impression.

Yeah, no.

What if there was a thing like the purge, but for cheating?

Like, one day, I don't know, a month.

No, one day in a year.

You could just get

it.

So fun.

Dream.

No, I'm getting.

Here's another one from Megan.

Okay, I'm not even going to waste time on a hello because I'm not trying to get crucified on the podcast.

But me and my husband are moving across the country to kind of get away from everybody, start our own journey.

And now our in-laws are trying to follow.

They are very nice people, but my God, are they fucking annoying?

What do we do?

Do we, you know, move there and if they follow us, just move to another state?

Or do we tell them, you know, you're a little annoying.

Please leave us alone?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Yikes.

So you would move somewhere and then potentially move again?

Does I get that right?

Yeah.

That sounds like a lot of work to maybe clear it up beforehand.

You know what I mean?

It sounds like a lot of work that a conversation could just like have a conversation.

Say like, hi, you're a little bit overbearing.

I'm really sorry.

I think that's better than moving twice.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I also believe in respecting your elders and like that sounds pretty shitty.

I don't know.

Like you're lucky to have in-laws.

I don't know how old this person is.

And I also don't know the circumstance.

Again, we don't have enough information, Josh.

Yeah.

And do they have, like, do they have kids?

Because if a lot of you can forgive a lot of annoyance if you have in-laws who are down to being your kids' life and help.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know?

Right.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Speaking of in-laws, your brother-in-law is a football player?

Yeah, Tony Romo.

Yeah, yeah.

He's, he's great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We grew up huge Cowboys fans, so from Texas.

And he's the best.

Yeah, going to some of those games where when he was still playing was just like the best.

It was, yeah.

And he, so I have in-laws who are football players too.

Okay.

My father-in-law was a quarterback for the Jets.

Amazing.

For 10 years.

My brother-in-law played QB1 for Fresno.

Wow.

So what's that?

Because for me, I'm not.

I'm not a great football player.

So playing catch with these guys sucks.

Sucks.

Yeah.

You break a finger real easy.

is tony darting them at you what's it is he throwing lasers what's going on even when he tries to take some off of it it's just like boom you know it's like almost a broken nose but yeah i mean and i never i tried football when i was i was not great but but yeah he doesn't he's more of like a golfer now like he's really into you know the golf thing and so you know it's nice that and he's really he's one of those annoying guys who's like to scratch and just can kind of get out there and he's so good i was gonna say he's amazing yeah yeah he just has a thing and he tries like show me how to do it and move my body i'm like i can't i can't do that

but yeah he gets out there and he he yeah he zings that ball and he's he's he now i've got three nephews he's his kids got three boys and like he seems like a great dad he's a great dad yeah he's like talked to i mean the the middle one looks just like him like throwing back there throwing the ball and like wiggling around and so it's it's fun it's fun for us yeah you know and he's a very good coach and very good like teacher and he's very patient and and enthusiastic but yeah we him and i used to play some catch and he would yeah i mean he would sting a little bit and not there's nothing like i can't even really watch football anymore like i like seeing him and having an emotional connection to someone on the field and being with your family, it was such like a drug.

It was such a high, like, and nerd, you know, you're nervous and watching him play and the whole thing.

Like, it will just never be that exciting watching any football event, you know, ever.

So, but yeah, he's, he's, he's such a good guy.

We love him.

And yeah, he's great.

Wow.

Yeah.

I love it.

Yeah.

I can't imagine you playing catch, Josh.

I don't know why.

I can't.

I just can't.

You play catch.

It's like you watching Glee.

It happens.

hands.

You play catch.

Yes.

I can throw up a ball.

I'm not great at catching things.

We need to play catch.

I'm ready to play catch.

Great for our next merch shoot.

It'll just be you.

I'd love to.

I'm going.

Yeah, we'll play catch and we'll smoke cigarettes.

That'll be the next shoot.

We're all smoking.

That was our first merch shoot.

It was us playing basketball.

While smoking cigarettes.

Yeah, while smoking That's amazing.

It was.

It was great.

Should we get to our what are you nuts?

Yes.

So our what are you nuts moment of the week?

We'll go first.

You have a time to think about it.

Okay.

It's our gripes with people, places, and things.

It's our last segment.

Basically, anything big or small, sticking in your craw.

It doesn't matter.

Just whatever you think and go, what are you nuts?

Like a pep peeve type thing?

Total.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anything is great.

Right.

So we'll go first and then, and you have time to think about it.

Okay.

Yeah.

So this morning, i mentioned that i i played golf this morning i go i had my iced coffee i had my ag1 i don't need to spell it out i get to the course i'm ready to i'm ready to rip it i sit down before i can do anything automatic flusher water up the ass what are you nuts what are you nuts the automatic flusher the automatic flusher josh didn't need to be invented it didn't need to we could easily press the button so that it doesn't go off at inopportune moments nobody likes to be splashed like that.

These are completely in archaic.

And I think automatic flushes are what you nuts.

Okay.

It's a good one.

Actually, my woody nuts is the other day I was walking through my home base, Costco.

I just love it.

And

they have one of those.

I live on Kirkland Drive.

I wish.

And they have a section set up for massage chairs.

Like they're doing demos.

Now, I love a massage chair as much as the next guy but like it's a lot of hooey it doesn't really do anything right right right right right it's not comparable to a real massage but it's great you can get it totally and they're not cheap they're thousands expensive yeah yeah and i see this big billboard for like these are our massage chairs and with a ringing endorsement from the world chiropractic organization What are you nuts?

Like,

what's the next endorsement from?

The World Fortune Teller Organization.

Who cares?

Josh, we're going to get the chiropractic community after us again.

This happened once.

This happened once.

I just like, we almost lost the podcast.

Who knew they needed an organization?

Like, first of all, I'm down with chiropractors.

I think they're wonderful if they're really good at what they do and they, and they can help people, but don't call yourself doctor, first of all, because it's

right, right, Ben?

Hooi, hoo-eye hoo-eye.

It's just because it's like, then there'll be like people who are giving you medical advice on TikTok and it'll say doctor so-and-so.

And I'll be like, oh, this person clearly went to like, you know, did the residency at the Cleveland Clinic.

And they're like, actually, I went to the Van Nuys chiropractic college.

You know what I'm just like, not a dog?

Yeah.

That's another woody nuts, just quickly, because I thought about it.

Actually, I'll save it for the next episode.

Actually, I'll mention it now and then we'll cut it out.

When you're a doctor of something else and you refer to yourself as doctor.

Like when you're like a doctor of the arts or something, and then you have people call you doctors.

Like, come on.

People slaved in medical school not like looked at picasso or something you know okay so when is doctor but a psychologist we can call doctor yes absolutely phd absolutely absolutely so anybody seeing what if you see patients you're a doctor chiropractor that's it yeah no chiropractors though like you can't be a doctor and also like isn't it kind of pseudo we're gonna strip them all in florida like it just

doesn't work you have to be able to fair fair enough what about a naturopath or like an Eastern medicine, you know, acupuncturist?

You know, I love them.

They're not doctors.

Okay.

Wow.

Gotcha.

They're, they're, they're homeopathic consultants, Josh.

Right.

They spread the gospel of the Lord.

That's what they do.

Okay.

That's what they do.

You have a winnie nuts, Chase?

You know, I was thinking, you know, I've been flying kind of back and forth from Toronto a little bit, and I realized one of my biggest pet peeves is someone watching or playing a game on their phone with no headphones and the volume up.

And I think that probably

it's such a good one because it's like, it's a nice quiet airplane.

You know, hopefully you're reading a book or doing something, you know, and then you just hear like, you know, coins jingling and all, you know, they're playing like Candy Crush or something.

And you're like, do I say something?

You know, am I going to stick up for myself?

And, you know, yeah, can you please, you know,

put the headphones on?

I feel like that's a natural, a normal, you know, courtesy.

Right.

And then, and then the other one, I'm like, on the airplane, I'm a guy who likes the window up.

I like the sun.

Like you're flying in the morning, daytime.

Like, I don't want to be in a dark coffin tube.

You know what I mean?

Like, when do we stop?

When do we stop like having the windows down?

You know, I mean, up.

Like, anyway, that's my, what, are you, are you nuts?

Yeah.

Are you nuts?

That's it.

Those are two, those are two great ones.

I've told the story about Teresa Judice before from the Real Households of New Jersey sitting next to me on a plane.

What was that?

She was FaceTiming with no headphones.

FaceTiming on Wi-Fi.

That is obnoxious.

Insanity.

Insanity.

It's a flight from L.A.

I'm trying to slitch his FaceTiming.

Oh, my God.

But if she's from the Real Housewives, I mean, that would have been at least somewhat interesting.

Like, oh, my God, of course.

You know, of course.

Oh, you're a Real Housewives fan, too.

God.

I start.

Yeah.

I haven't watched it in a while, but I used to love it.

Yeah.

I love it.

He loves bad TV.

It's gold.

It's gold.

Yeah.

I love it.

Chase, this has been unbelievable.

Do you have anything else that you want to talk about?

Anything that you want to call out?

Anything you want to promote before we wrap?

Yeah, no, I listened.

We mentioned with my friend Kelly Teller, I'm launching.

Like, you know, I just got bored with the acting thing last year when I, well, you know, when the strikes were going, I didn't have much to do.

And we started this clothing apparel company that's, that's launching on June 6th called American Dream Clubhouse.

It's got polos that are a few that are for golf, but it's mainly like high quality, like really, really nice polos and t-shirts and hoodies.

And I kind of wanted to just create something that was custom to me where I couldn't find everything in a one-stop shop that kind of had like the colors and the sizes I like.

And we're really excited about it.

So yeah, American Dream Clubhouse website's going to be open in a two weeks and it's great.

So yeah, please check it out.

Amazing.

We will.

Josh, I love a good polo.

I love it.

Polos are good, baby.

Yeah, it's good.

As long as there's a little stretch in it, nothing too much.

There's a little stretch, and they're not too tight.

They're not overly tailored.

It's good.

So

perfect.

We'll get you guys some.

I love it.

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Thanks for having me.

Thanks, man.

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Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Cheers.

Awesome.

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