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Speaker 2 Mazelmorons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. We are in our fourth trimester here.
We're sitting here with two queens.

Speaker 2 This is just an opportunity for you guys to just to just yell at us for the next hour. It's Claudia Oshri and Paige O'Brien.
Wow, we're so lucky.

Speaker 3 Claudia, I want to know how, because I know that you guys aren't really like buying stuff. Are you still not buying things for the baby?

Speaker 4 And we are, so it's, it's complicated. Like, okay, do I have a couple of boxes in my home of things that I have ordered?

Speaker 2 Yes, they have you just assembled.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and they also like they're just the real necessities, the basics, like nothing exciting or fun or like, you know, designer. It's probably the hardest part of this journey.

Speaker 4 I'm such a planner and I'm like so crazy. Like I love to get everything ready.

Speaker 4 And I see these bitches on TikTok who are seriously in the first trimester and have full like nurseries with wallpaper and, you know, molding.

Speaker 4 And I'm so jealous, but it's just just not the way our peeps do things so I have in a box I have a crib

Speaker 4 I have a stroller and I have a dresser oh and I have wallpaper but I haven't put any of it up in boxes so will you wait till you're like at the hospital and have someone do it for you or how does that work so the way that it works is like you have like a trusted friend take care of it while you're at the hospital although most of the things the way that i envision and of course everything i've envisioned so far like is not even going my way so i'm sure it'll go differently but the way i envision is that baby's in bassinet with us in our room for like the first couple of months so there's no rush actually on getting a nursery done it's just like nice to have i want to take pictures a hundred percent i feel like it's it's so not necessary but like i was thinking about you last night because i also have other kids so like it's been kind of stressful to be like okay i have to set up a nursery room now i have to combine the kids rooms together but i was thinking about you i'm like the fact that she can't that she's not doing any of this is like stressing me out because i just want it to be done and i don't want to think about it anymore Well, let me ask you something because I was having this conversation with like fighting, literally fighting with people in the comment section on TikTok.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Because like, of course, all I do since the second I found out I'm pregnant is complain, like my back hurts, I'm tired, I'm hungry, I'm fat, like everything is bothering me.
And that's my right.

Speaker 4 And a lot of the reaction that I get is like, well, imagine doing it with a toddler.

Speaker 4 And it's like, okay, well, your experience is your experience. Mine is mine.
Like, and I imagine, and I honestly like anybody who's pregnant with a toddler, like you have my absolute sympathy.

Speaker 4 That sounds fucking horrible.

Speaker 3 And you've been both right and now you're pregnant with two kids so like how much worse is it really it's you're just a little bit more i think tired in a different way because you're just like my body is so physically tired and then you're also just exhausted from like chasing after your kids that it is harder but like i think it might it doesn't i don't know it's all hard like i think the physical things like i think that you'll hopefully will experience that like the tired and the pain and like the things you're feeling now doesn't like, it's a different kind of tired once the baby's here.

Speaker 3 Like, obviously you're not sleeping as much, but it's definitely like a different kind of tired. Like I'd take

Speaker 2 enjoyable.

Speaker 4 No, what? More enjoyable tired. Like a baby, that's fun.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like there's times where you're like, especially with your first kid, you're just so excited and it's all so new that there's like days where you're like, I don't, like the first few days, you're like, I don't even want to sleep.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't want to take my eyes off of them, you know?

Speaker 4 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So then it's just like fun and exciting.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, there's definitely you're tired, but then you can also hand the baby off to someone during the day and be like, can you hold the baby so I can sleep?

Speaker 4 That's exciting about like doing this with a partner is, you know, pregnancy is, you know, Ben is amazing. You really have been just amazing.
Love you, love you, love you, yada, yada.

Speaker 4 But there's, and I feel like you're doing the most and the best a husband can do, which is relatively nothing. Like you can make me meals and you can rub my back, but like you can't.

Speaker 2 You're so massive, Claudia. Do you know how useless men are? Do you know how absolutely I know?

Speaker 4 I know, but what I'm saying is like, here I have somebody who's doing the most. Like, seriously, there's nothing more Ben could do.

Speaker 4 I know if he could crawl into my body and take all this away, like he would, like, he would help. But so even that, like, it helps, obviously, but it's not even close to what I'm doing.
Sure.

Speaker 4 I didn't mean to, I'm trying to give you that compliment.

Speaker 2 You have a weird way of doing it.

Speaker 4 No, but it's just like, so when the baby's actually here, then like we can actually do not equal parts, like with breastfeeding, but like you can do a lot more than you're doing now.

Speaker 4 And that I'm definitely looking forward to. And And of course, anyone who wants to come over and help do the dishes, like I welcome you.
Please come over, bring your rubber gloves.

Speaker 3 It's true. I think that you just get also like, I was thinking about it on my way here too.
I'm just looking forward to like being able to sleep for even 10 minutes.

Speaker 3 Like I'm so uncomfortable when I'm pregnant and sleeping on my side is not ideal for me. Oh my God.

Speaker 3 I'm tossing and turning. And I'm like, once the baby's here, like I can sleep on my stomach if I want.

Speaker 3 And even if it's for 10 minutes, I'll have a good, I'll have a good 10 minutes and then I'll be a good woman.

Speaker 4 I'm so glad you brought that up. Everybody has like a list of things they can't wait to do, like smoke crack or take Ozempic.

Speaker 4 And obviously, like one of the first things I'm going to do is take my Ozempic and have a big cocktail. And then I'm going to take the fattest fucking nap on my stomach.

Speaker 4 Like I'm a true stomach sleeper. Like before I got, like never slept on my back, never slept on my side.
Sleeping on your side is a special form of torture.

Speaker 4 They should do it to the people like Guantanamo. Like the way your entire left side goes completely numb.
So you're forced to then wake up and flip. You flip what? Like at least 10 times a night.

Speaker 4 At least.

Speaker 2 And if you have a pregnancy pillow, you're

Speaker 2 trapped.

Speaker 4 I'm like, such a complicated relationship.

Speaker 2 Awful.

Speaker 4 With the pregnancy pillow. I hate her and I love her.
Like, I don't know if it's the best thing that was ever invented or I wish I never discovered it.

Speaker 3 You know, I have a little wedge, a little like thing to put in between my legs that helps because I had a pregnancy pillow for two days and I gave it to my sister. I was like, I hate this.

Speaker 3 I don't ever want this to be anywhere near me.

Speaker 4 No, and you just keep discovering the beauty of pregnancy is like you keep discovering the crazy things that can go wrong in your body.

Speaker 4 Like I remember the first time I experienced like without sleeping with something between my legs, your hips kind of lock, right? And it's very painful. And I didn't know what that was.

Speaker 4 And I'm, we were in a hotel and I like thought I was having sleep paralysis. I couldn't fucking move my lower body.
I'm like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 4 They're like, well, you're not sleeping with something between your legs.

Speaker 2 I'm like, okay.

Speaker 4 It's just, it's really insane. Every time you have an ailment, I'm like, there's no way that this is related to pregnancy.
No, it is. I have carpal tunnel.
It's pregnancy related.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's real.

Speaker 3 They also say, like, your thumbs. I don't know why after having the baby, I was like, oh, my wrist hurts, or like my thumb hurts.
My friend's like, oh, you have mom thumb.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, what's mom thumb?

Speaker 2 I don't even know what that is. We've never heard of it.
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Speaker 1 But you found a cure for most of your remedies via Eastern medicine, right? Would you like to talk about your journey down east?

Speaker 4 I don't because I know how much joy it brings you. But yes, I did start acupuncture in an earnest way to try and, I've heard it can help with breach baby, but she obviously got me in there.

Speaker 4 She started asking me questions. And one thing about me, you ask me questions, I'm going to unload on you.
And I had a particularly tough day that day. So I was like crying, being like, I can't sleep.

Speaker 4 My legs hurt. I'm, I'm so sweaty.
I have acid reflux. I was choking in my sleep.
And so she did all these pressure points. Let me tell you, it's only been a few days.

Speaker 4 But I am unfortunately a believer. It's very, and this is the best thing to ever happen to Ben because he's always trying to push his like herbs and shit on me.

Speaker 2 I mean, he started.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 They work. They work.

Speaker 4 They're so Western to my core. Like, I believe in Western medicine.
But let me tell you, Josh, you should give it a try.

Speaker 2 It's not even that. With your beautiful husband, Ben, my thing is like, these herbs you're taking is a garden hose on a forest fire, my boy.
Get on a fucking treadmill.

Speaker 4 No, and it's like, how, how good can your herbs be? How authentic?

Speaker 3 They're from Whole Foods.

Speaker 4 Like, they can be great.

Speaker 1 They're

Speaker 4 Bezos herbs.

Speaker 1 They can be great. We're down.

Speaker 1 I have a new one. I have a a new one.
Josh, I spoke to you about dose. We spoke about dose.

Speaker 2 You didn't speak to me. So a shooter, a sniper, one of our listeners in my DMs sees that Ben has posted a story going, should I take this followers? What do we think?

Speaker 2 And she said, he's taking another supplement. Go get him.

Speaker 1 The way I love dose, I've taken it every day for a week. I have the cleanest liver this side of the river, whatever that expression is.
And it is

Speaker 2 amazing, Josh.

Speaker 4 I'm so glad you're on my side with this. Obviously, we come at it from two different points of view.

Speaker 4 Like, I come at it because I have this little wicker basket that we keep in our kitchen for our vitamins. Like, we are two relatively normal people.
We don't need that many vitamins.

Speaker 4 I have my prenatals, you know, and we are constantly outgrowing the wicker basket. I have like sized, I've sized up on wicker baskets.
We're now at the largest size, and we are completely full.

Speaker 4 So, every time a new supplement arrives, it's like the bait of my existence trying to reorganize this Tetris wicker basket. And so I hate the supplements, not because I don't think they don't work.

Speaker 4 I don't know enough about them, but because like you rotate in, you don't rotate anything out.

Speaker 2 Correct. You're right.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 4 How am I supposed to live like that?

Speaker 1 You're right. I could go and throw away, I haven't taken Lions Mane in probably five months.
I could probably get rid of that.

Speaker 2 Lion's Mane is good. I took one this morning.
Now

Speaker 4 we almost got one out.

Speaker 1 Right now, all I'm on is dose. I took magnesium last night, a turmeric pill in the the morning, a Zyrtec in the morning.
What else did I take?

Speaker 2 Neutrophil?

Speaker 1 Of course, of course. And yeah, that's it.
Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy.
She tried to throw me. She tried to throw away my creatine the other day.
I said, pause off. I might go back on that.

Speaker 2 You never know.

Speaker 4 Huge tub on our fucking counter. It's like, we have to start making space for things, you know? We are going to have a lot of new things coming in the home.
And like, I love to purge.

Speaker 4 Now, in Ben's defense, I definitely purge too much. Like, Ben will be like, hey, where's, you know, that keepsake my father gave me 15 years ago.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I would say, where's my Zadies?

Speaker 2 My Zadie's necklace.

Speaker 4 I am, I literally, Jackie calls me the sweeper, and I, I often sweep too close to the sun. I can acknowledge my own shortcomings, but whatever I am, you are the opposite.

Speaker 2 You are the opposite.

Speaker 1 I've gotten so much better. I'm real, I really am not.
Like, I don't, I don't own anything. The only thing I own is supplements.

Speaker 4 It's so true. And it's too many.

Speaker 2 You threw away your passport last week. I own nothing.
I own supplements. That's it.

Speaker 4 No, honestly, like

Speaker 2 all of my assets are in these supplements.

Speaker 4 My sweeping is definitely heightened with the baby coming.

Speaker 4 You haven't met me where I'm at.

Speaker 1 Josh, our closets are barren.

Speaker 4 That's not true. We own nothing.
That's not fucking true.

Speaker 1 We own nothing. Once.

Speaker 1 And every inch that I have is slowly but surely being taken over by you. Don't think that I don't see the way that you've taken that.

Speaker 4 Not to be rude, you wear the same pair of pants every day. What the fuck do you need a dresser for? Okay?

Speaker 2 You have one pair of pants.

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Speaker 4 Yeah, please, okay?

Speaker 2 Like, spare me.

Speaker 4 I know you and your tricks.

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Speaker 3 But once the baby comes, you're going to get so much stuff. I'm with you, Claudia.
Like, I think I need to get rid of half of this room in order. Yes.

Speaker 3 Because I just know people send stuff and then I have to get all the baby clothes out.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, no, let me ask you guys a question. Like, we obviously have our unique set of issues.
We live in New York City. Storage is limited.
You guys live in a home.

Speaker 4 Do you still have these problems?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we do. I think, I think my kids are kind of hoarders.
I've realized like Max keeps everything. He keeps everything and he remembers everything.
So he'll be like, he's kind of like Ben.

Speaker 3 He'll be like, mom, where did that

Speaker 2 project go?

Speaker 4 And I'm like, the toilet.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's in the

Speaker 3 trash somewhere.

Speaker 4 They went to go live at a farm.

Speaker 3 I, I've been getting rid of a lot of stuff. I think their rooms are like pretty close to being done, which is nice.
But I'm like, I get rid of,

Speaker 3 if I get new stuff, I'm getting rid of something to make space.

Speaker 2 I'm the same.

Speaker 1 Were your parents that way, Paige?

Speaker 3 No, but I shared a room with my sister growing up.

Speaker 3 And I feel like she, I was very neat and clean.

Speaker 3 And she wasn't, or she kind of was, but now she's not so like there was a certain time where we got to like high school where one day I just moved her out like my older siblings went to college and I just moved her out of our room

Speaker 1 Josh I don't know about you Josh my parents keep and kept everything

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 so it's a like Ben comes from a family of keepers I come from a family of sweepers so the way that I have adjusted to being a full-blown sweeper like my parents still to this day like I will go into the kitchen and I will find

Speaker 2 a tooth like an old phone.

Speaker 1 Like, why do you have my phone, my Nokia? Right.

Speaker 1 You don't need to keep my Nokia.

Speaker 2 You throw it away. You have to.

Speaker 3 You hide a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, they keep everything.

Speaker 2 Growing up, my mom and I, when we lived in the city, we only ever had a studio or a one bedroom that we shared. So it was tight quarters, tight, tight, tight, tight, tight.

Speaker 2 And so we didn't have that much stuff. And we didn't ever have like, I remember in New York, people like, you'd go over to a friend's house.

Speaker 2 They're like, we're going to go down to our storage closet, like in the third, like in the depths of the foiler room like what is this magical place but then we had a two-bedroom apartment when we lived in la because it was only like 2100 a month and we started accruing some stuff i i definitely have some things but it was all free baby it's all freebies or it was on sale

Speaker 4 josh can i ask you a question what was your experience being an only child did you like it It's all I knew.

Speaker 2 I didn't have anything to compare it to. No, but it was deeply lonely, shattering.

Speaker 4 It was.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was. I didn't, we didn't, we had no family and it was just my mom and I.
So it was certainly hard. I mean, my mom and I had a great time.
We'd spend the weekends at ANS or Manhattan Mall.

Speaker 2 Not sure if you're familiar with it.

Speaker 4 Of course, 36 and 7. Yes.

Speaker 2 So we traipse around the food court, get some chicken teriyaki

Speaker 2 and treat ourselves to some Jinko jeans and a Sam Goody CD. But yeah, but it was hard.
I definitely would have loved siblings.

Speaker 3 Do you find it harder when you were a kid to be an only child or now as an adult? Like, Like, do you wish you had siblings?

Speaker 2 No, now I feel like I have enough people in my life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 2 And we, I think we, maybe we talked about this, Claude, on our, um, the first time I came on the toast when we were talking about my book, but I have three half siblings that are out there.

Speaker 4 I remember that from your book.

Speaker 2 Whom I have no interest in contacting.

Speaker 4 But do they know about you? Yes.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 4 Do they know about you?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 3 I don't, we don't think so.

Speaker 2 We don't think so. We don't know.

Speaker 4 Well, I think if they knew, they would want to meet you because you're famous.

Speaker 1 Yes. They would be coming for a check.

Speaker 2 They're very, they're very.

Speaker 4 They'd be coming for a piece of the good guys.

Speaker 4 Oh, they're old.

Speaker 3 They're like in their 70s.

Speaker 4 Oh, oh, oh, never mind.

Speaker 2 They definitely don't know you.

Speaker 1 By the way, maybe, Josh, maybe one day you'll get a check in the mail. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe they know about you and you're going to inherit some fat fortune.

Speaker 4 Or like a boat.

Speaker 1 Maybe. A boat.

Speaker 2 Maybe I should start appealing to you. Doubtful.
When I thought it already happened,

Speaker 2 your dad died. Josh, but they inherited, so maybe I can soothe their pants off.

Speaker 1 You 100% right now need to develop a relationship with all three older half-siblings because you could, you never know. You never know.
They could leave you that stack, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but do we know that they're wealthy? They could be like also homeless.

Speaker 1 But I'm banking on them being wealthy.

Speaker 2 I've stalked them on Facebook. They seem to all be doing well.
I know my father was wealthy.

Speaker 2 He seemed to be a real Sterling gentleman if it were not for the fact that he wanted nothing to do with me.

Speaker 4 Right. Aside from the whole like abandonment thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 His grandkids really loved him. His kids really loved him.
The photos on Facebook that we've seen are all very lovely. Actually, have you ever seen what his dad looks like, Ben?

Speaker 4 Isn't that the duality of man? You know, abandoning your children.

Speaker 3 I think I have seen.

Speaker 2 He was rather tan, right?

Speaker 3 It's wild.

Speaker 3 He is Josh. They are identical twins.
It is so crazy. I'm going to text you guys a picture.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Actually, I have one. Wait, wait, you guys talk about it.

Speaker 4 Send it, Paige. Send it.
Here, I have it. How do we receive it?

Speaker 2 Which one are you going to send? Oh, oh, oh, true. You have a picture of my dad ready to go? Yep.

Speaker 2 Look at the head. I do.

Speaker 4 And that's a good wife.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. I've seen Josh.

Speaker 2 Make sure he looks good.

Speaker 1 Doesn't he look like Assyrian Josh?

Speaker 2 Isn't that

Speaker 2 Assyrian Josh? I think that's my father is borat.

Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 3 I just texted them to you.

Speaker 4 Josh, he's literally you.

Speaker 2 Identical. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't see it.

Speaker 3 Yep. The eyes, the mouth.

Speaker 4 Yep. A thousand percent looks just like you.

Speaker 2 Wow. Your sister, Beans.

Speaker 2 She looks kind of like beans from you.

Speaker 1 I've 100% never seen him.

Speaker 1 And you don't.

Speaker 4 Those pictures are also really old. Makes you look like you're 100.
Like that's a picture of your dad. Like it's looks like like it's been restored and like colorized.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was 62 when he had Josh.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So he is pushing the hundreds.

Speaker 2 Yeah. When he passed away, people were like, oh, my God.
Like, you know, something traumatic. I said, no, natural causes.

Speaker 4 So, Josh, do you feel like that loneliness you felt as a child sort of informs how many kids you want to have?

Speaker 2 Oh, absolutely. I mean, I think we're done.
I think we've, are we done? We're done, right? Please, God. I mean,

Speaker 3 as of right now, we will be done.

Speaker 2 If Dear Media gives us a, you know, an armchair expert type re-up deal and or I get, you know, some terrible sitcom on CBS shout out, then I, then I'd have all the kids.

Speaker 2 But I just think like, if you can throw money at kids, it's great. Obviously, people do it.
But when you have multiples, four or five, you just need room.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Let me ask you a question.
Like, how expensive is a kid?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's all, it's all relative and it's not expensive in the beginning, but just like simple things that I start computing in our head.

Speaker 2 And granted, I will give the caveat or say how lucky we are to be able to afford such things, right?

Speaker 2 But now, like, Max is in public school, but even his public school suggests a $3,000 donation a year for the school so that they can like afford electives and do nice programming and whatnot.

Speaker 2 And he does after school, which is 600 bucks a a month. And he'll do camp.
So like Max is about 10,000 bucks a year for his school. And now Shai will start school.

Speaker 2 So that'll be preschool, $20,000 a year.

Speaker 2 And then you have someone who helps with the baby, which is, you know, so like all in all three kids, that's looking at, you know, in the 50s, you know, per year, which is a luxury, but, you know, if you can afford it, it's, it's incredibly, yeah.

Speaker 3 And I think as they get older too, like Max is now going to start getting more into sports. He's like really into sports, whereas Shai's not into any of that.
He's young, but that stuff is expensive.

Speaker 3 Just like little things where you're like, oh, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 4 And then do you think you're going to send your kids to sleep away camp? Is that a thing people in LA do?

Speaker 2 People don't do that here.

Speaker 1 You must.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I have to agree with Ben on this. You must.

Speaker 1 You absolutely have to.

Speaker 2 Max would thrive. It's not the culture.
It's not the culture here as much. It's

Speaker 4 so unfortunate.

Speaker 2 So send him east.

Speaker 1 Send him east. Yeah, maybe be like the cool kid.

Speaker 4 We all knew someone who flew in from LA. Like not everyone was from New York, New Jersey, Florida, but there was like one or two kids who came from the West Coast.
They were extremely cool.

Speaker 4 And then you have like an LA friend for life. That could be Max.

Speaker 3 Maybe, maybe our kids can go to camp together. Your kids

Speaker 3 take our kids together.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

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Speaker 2 BH.

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Speaker 2 Claudia, you went to Rubinesque's camp, right?

Speaker 4 I went to a weight loss facility.

Speaker 2 Was it Camp Shane?

Speaker 4 It was not Camp Shane. It was the sort of rival to Camp Shane, Camp Pocono Trails.

Speaker 4 And we went when I forget how old I was, but my older sister Olivia really struggled with her weight from like a young age.

Speaker 4 And one of the things that my parents tried to do to help, you know, they were trying everything and they found this camp.

Speaker 4 And of course, like we were just the type of family where it's like, if one of us was going, we're all going. So we had been at like this girls, all-girls sleepway camp for many summers.

Speaker 4 We were devastated. We got pulled out.
We were like, we have to go to Olivia to the fat farm. And

Speaker 4 when I tell you, we loved it. We never went back to our old camp.
Like after the first summer, my mom was like, you guys can go back. And we were like, no, we loved it.
It was so much fun.

Speaker 4 We really didn't know. It wasn't like it really wasn't heavyweights.
You didn't know it actually was heavyweights.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry, the beginning, like this really like family-friendly environment with these characters, like they were everyone from was from New Jersey. It was, it was actually an amazing place.

Speaker 4 I went till I was like 18. I was like not on the program at all because I didn't start suffering from you know, obesity till later in life, but I just loved it and I made so many friends.

Speaker 4 And it was seriously, it was like

Speaker 4 when I tell people this, they can't believe it. It was such a regular camp.

Speaker 3 Was there a blob?

Speaker 4 Was that there was not a blob. No.
And they were very conscious at this facility of, you know, you know, they did like a lot of, you did like a weekly class about just like self-image.

Speaker 4 And a blob was not good for self-image, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's now at a Rubinesque camp, is there a weigh-in when you get there?

Speaker 4 When you get there, yes, of course. And then every Sunday.
Oh,

Speaker 2 the day of atonement.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 And if you're on the program, like you have to weigh in. If you're not on the program, it's totally optional.

Speaker 3 Going back, Claudia, when you were saying, because now I'm thinking about you're one of four, I'm also one of four.

Speaker 3 Do you know how many kids, especially now being going through pregnancy, like, did you always say, like, I want to have five kids? And now you're like, I'm only doing this twice.

Speaker 4 I, I have always said that I wanted to have five kids because I loved growing up with so many sisters. And so it's like, what's one more?

Speaker 4 You know, like, I think if I had one more sister, I would be so happy. Like, so I, five for me is a dream.
I'm, I'm at the end of my rope here, Paige. Like, I don't know how much longer I can do this.

Speaker 4 Seriously. And I also started, we started trying and just even thinking about kids like later than I thought.

Speaker 4 Like when I was growing up, I was like, I'm going to have my first, I want to be a really young mom. I want to be, you know, 25 when I have my first baby.

Speaker 4 And I remember we were at Brian Kelly's apartment. I like just sort of met him and we were like drinking and we were like having so much fun.
He's like, Do you want to have kids?

Speaker 4 And I was like, for sure, when I'm 25. And he's like, how old are you? And I was like, oh, how old am I?

Speaker 2 Oh, I am 20, 25.

Speaker 4 And I was like, oh, okay. So like maybe when I'm 26.
And it was slowly like 26, 27, 28. And now, you know, time isn't on my side either.

Speaker 4 So I would love in the next pregnancy to have quadruplets and then I would be set. And be done.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that sounds easy.

Speaker 2 Quadruplets.

Speaker 4 Can you imagine me?

Speaker 1 No, I can't. Me.

Speaker 2 Quadraduplets.

Speaker 3 I have so many friends having twins right now, and it sounds awful.

Speaker 4 Hellish. I know.
I know. I felt so conflicted because I was kind of hoping for twins just because I definitely feel like I started a little bit late.
Now I'd be caught up with all my friends.

Speaker 4 Like I would have two kids, but it's such a hard, it's so hard on your body. It's so complicated the pregnancy.
I feel like I'm not built for that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Culturally, you feel like you're behind. You're definitely not.
Like, Paige, you're, your friends, when did they start having kids?

Speaker 3 No, I think I was, what, 27 when I had Max, 28, 27 or 28. And even then, I was like the first of all of my friends, siblings, cousins, everyone to have a baby.
So I feel like he was like.

Speaker 3 everyone's baby.

Speaker 2 All of my friends

Speaker 3 were like, this is so cool and exciting. And since then, I've had a, a lot of my friends have had kids, but I also feel like I'm like, three is a lot of kids.
They're all on their first.

Speaker 4 And yeah, that's how I feel. Like, so my older sister, Olivia, she was the first to have a baby.
And like the way we all died for this kid, like.

Speaker 4 gifts and schmiffs and oh what can i do i'll fly here i'll fly there and i just i haven't said this publicly and i feel like now's a good time i want to let everyone know like i expect the same sort of energy for our firstborn you won't get any of it as we gave to others specifically specifically like the first in our family.

Speaker 4 It was a total reset. Like we all, oh my God, the gifts I gave this kid, like you would never believe.
I am expecting that in return.

Speaker 1 You're also the world's greatest aunt.

Speaker 4 Agreed.

Speaker 1 The world's greatest aunt. It's true.
It will be the first for my parents. So at least

Speaker 1 we'll get that.

Speaker 4 That's true, actually. You are the first grandson on your side.

Speaker 1 Yes, at least we'll get that. But yeah, Jackie and Olivia better pony up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, they better show up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like we put together a registry.

Speaker 2 Like you could just Venmo. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, your sister's kids are older too. So that'll be fun for you when you guys all get together.
Like you have babysitters. You have people who can hold a baby.

Speaker 2 Totally.

Speaker 3 They're going to be so happy.

Speaker 4 You should like space your kids apart so that like your older kid can take care of your younger kid.

Speaker 2 But I feel bad because Paige's sister Blake had the beautiful Gus about six months ago. And I just, and he's the greatest and he gets plenty of attention and love.

Speaker 2 But I maybe I feel guilty just having two of my own. I'm like, I don't get enough time with Gus just because I'm running after my little ones.

Speaker 2 And I know if we only had Gus, oh my God, I'd be over there every day.

Speaker 1 That is such a good name. It is.

Speaker 2 Gus.

Speaker 4 I love Gus.

Speaker 4 I don't know what he looks like, but I could, I feel like I do.

Speaker 2 He's meaty, right? Isn't he meaty?

Speaker 2 He's a thin, thin little beauty.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he looks like my kids kind of, he looks like Max did as a baby.

Speaker 1 Is Gus is Gus short for something like Guzman or are we just

Speaker 2 Guzman?

Speaker 3 He's just Gus, but we have friends that have like August or

Speaker 3 we now call him Gustavo. Like, we just call him whatever now.

Speaker 4 But is Maxwell short for anything?

Speaker 4 Not Maxwell.

Speaker 4 Just and shy is shy.

Speaker 3 Shy is shy.

Speaker 4 I like that. I feel like it's

Speaker 4 nice. Everybody thinks they need to have like a big name, but then you never call them by their name and it's like weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Gus.
We're really.

Speaker 1 What do you think of Gus Saffer?

Speaker 4 I don't like that the last letter of the first name is the same letter as the okay you know gusaf gust soffer okay gustav gustav soffer gustav sofer oh that's i just i that's pretty good right could you imagine him at camp shady pines or wherever she went

Speaker 2 gus sofer weighing in at 155

Speaker 2 congratulations gus soft 150 and 31 full-blown rizzler congratulations goose soffer you are now the fattest camp

Speaker 4 do you how does that work with like naming i know the superstitions with like buying stuff do you guys have a name will you have a name picked out do you have names that you guys talk about that you like it's so funny like the pick the the not buying stuff is like what my family does so i do it like out of respect but i don't feel particularly superstitious like if i have a a crib like that doesn't give me the willies yeah what does give me the willies is coming up with names people who are like walking around with it like oh my baby jane emily like it's so that to me is so willy-nilly like that makes me nervous but it's not against our beliefs.

Speaker 4 We have a couple of names that we've thrown around.

Speaker 4 I think we're like leaning more towards one, but I also don't want to go in with a name because if I go in with a name, I'm going to hate it and be like, that's not the name.

Speaker 4 So, we have, like, if we, if we choose from any of the names that we agree on, I'll be happy. I really will.

Speaker 1 Only thing that we're super aligned on is that we're naming for something.

Speaker 4 Yeah, of course. This is our first.
We got to do it.

Speaker 2 With purpose. We got to be the name will have purpose.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 4 It'll be strong.

Speaker 1 So, unfortunately, we can't do Guzman. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you guys think that? That's why I was thinking about a Guzman.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't even think about it. Okay.
Do you guys want to hear some fun pregnancy facts that you may or may not know?

Speaker 4 I can guarantee you we know them, but sure.

Speaker 2 Did you know that babies can cry in the

Speaker 2 while they can't make any sound? Babies can practice crying in the khum as early as the second trimester.

Speaker 4 I did know that because I made sure to remark. I'm like, isn't it crazy how like the baby doesn't cry and then he gives like gets born and then he's suddenly crying?

Speaker 4 And then someone was like, no, actually, they cry in the womb, which is so sad.

Speaker 2 Terrible.

Speaker 1 that is so sad it's like that dear evinh song there's no one around to like there's nobody around did he even

Speaker 2 fall in a forest and there's nobody around do you ever really crash or even make a sense no it's devastating devastating did you know that the uterus can expand to the size of a watermelon it can expand up to 500 times its normal size during pregnancy yeah yeah i would have been able to to guess that maybe not the baby is like the size of a watermelon when they're born.

Speaker 4 Right. They say 40 weeks, like on the fruit thing, is a watermelon.

Speaker 3 So that one makes sense.

Speaker 2 Did you know that a baby can taste food in the kwum? Spirit

Speaker 2 mother's diet. Annoying.

Speaker 4 I actually didn't think I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 2 They pass into the amniotic fluid, allowing babies to experience different tastes from before birth. Your kid's been eating diner for eight months.
My kid is eating grilled cheese.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, so much diner.

Speaker 3 and diet coke oh my god so much diner we're gonna have to really expand his palate once he's born because i'm doing just the bare minimum to get by you're not so much diner anything helps i it's actually max will say to me he'll be like mom do you know that i've never tasted a diet coke but the baby has and i'm like good point okay ouch first of all because like i just let me have a sip he's like well the baby gets to drink it and i was like oh i guess you're right that's actually a good question let me ask you this because I've asked my sisters it too.

Speaker 4 Cause I remember when I found out that like babies don't drink water, like how fucking crazy that is. Yeah.
And now obviously like the kids drink water and they drink juice, but they haven't had soda.

Speaker 4 Like when do you give them a soda?

Speaker 3 I don't know if you're Josh, like when they're two, apparently.

Speaker 2 But if you're saying I had a soda too or that I gave our kids soda? You gave our kids.

Speaker 3 Our kids are like, oh, I had a sprite with dad.

Speaker 2 They never have had a sprite. That is untrue.

Speaker 2 What they have had, their mother has given them is a fresca because apparently there's green light on fresca in our home fresco soda i don't consider that a soda oh by the way sorry sorry paige i want to back you up but that is 1000 a soda

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 okay wait you introduced all of us to fresca so it's your mate it's an incredible beverage

Speaker 1 so good it's an incredible beverage like top tier fresca is yeah i agree great fruit fresco is better than sprite that said it doesn't taste that delicious at zero calories if it's not a true thick soda it's a it's a soda what about poppy?

Speaker 1 Like an olipop?

Speaker 2 These golf soda? Olips. Isn't it Oli?

Speaker 3 He likes those.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh, we should make a kosher one called Holy Pop.

Speaker 2 It's Olipop, babe. What do you think of that, Josh?

Speaker 1 Holy pop?

Speaker 2 Sure. Okay.

Speaker 2 They can give it an ass.

Speaker 2 Holy water is in it.

Speaker 2 He does

Speaker 2 washes down communion like a hollipop.

Speaker 3 He does like those. What is he likes the olive? What's the other one? Poppy.
They're all.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 3 He likes those.

Speaker 4 I feel like our child will be born with just like a

Speaker 1 zest for DC.

Speaker 4 An affinity for it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Should we start them straight on Pepsi? He'll never even know Diet Coke.

Speaker 2 Di Pepsi from day.

Speaker 4 I like both. I actually prefer Di Pepsi, but I probably drink more Diet Coke.
It's just more accessible. So the baby might just want that.

Speaker 3 Have you had a McDonald's at all during your pregnancy? Have you tried a McDonald's frozen Coke?

Speaker 4 Well, I have had McDonald's during my pregnancy. I'm insulted at the question.
And frozen Coke, no, definitely not. Like I don't mess around when it comes to beverages.

Speaker 4 Like at a drive-thru, it's always just like a large diet coke. A large diet coke.
I don't veer.

Speaker 3 I, when I was really sick at the beginning of this pregnancy, I've been sick pretty much the whole time. Kristen Doty, friend of the podcast,

Speaker 3 Good Guys podcast, wore the hat on the show. I saw this on the premiere.

Speaker 1 She was a dear friend of the podcast.

Speaker 4 She was fantastic.

Speaker 3 Loyal friend.

Speaker 3 So she, when she was pregnant, like she's still pregnant but when she was at the beginning of her pregnancy she would on our group text with like all my sisters she'd be like you guys frozen coke from mcdonald's is saving my life and i was like okay whatever and then i got the flu max shai and i we all got the flu we couldn't eat anything i was so sick for days frozen coke was the thing that brought me back to life it was so delicious i was like kristen thank you for this i love you for i mean i'm not against it i'll definitely try it the next time i found myself at a mcdonald's which is probably gonna be like tomorrow i've never even heard of it i would love it yeah you you would love it you never had a slushy a Coke Slurpee from 7-Eleven?

Speaker 2 It's different. Never.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's different. It tastes a little different.
It's like, I don't know, the texture is different. I'm not sure, but it was great.

Speaker 2 I highly recommend.

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Speaker 2 Can I, I have a couple stories I would love to get your guys' opinion on. I'm sure, Claudia, you've covered this, but I just saw this in page six.
And I so that's it with your fun facts?

Speaker 2 I have some strong feelings.

Speaker 4 So we're done with the fun facts?

Speaker 2 Would you want one more?

Speaker 4 no no no i was just i i wanted to make i don't know if they were going to come back i had a really good time a lot of fun

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Speaker 2 11 and a half

Speaker 2 Okay, I got to know what you guys think about Katy Perry is hurt by Wendy's inappropriate jibe about her trip to space with Lauren Sanchez.

Speaker 2 The fast food giant snarked, can we send her back in response to a post on X that read, Katy Perry has returned from space.

Speaker 2 Someone in Katy Perry's close, close circle said, we understand the internet loves a joke, but there's a clear difference between humor and targeted hostility. And this wasn't harmless banter.

Speaker 2 I have some strong feelings about it. I'd like to hear you.

Speaker 4 Me too. I mean, nobody has clowned on these dumb bitches going to space more than me.

Speaker 4 And I want to say, in this moment, I stand with Katy Perry, that was kind of an inappropriate tweet on behalf of Wendy's, like from a greenfront account. It was actually like mean-spirited.

Speaker 4 Like, we're all having fun, right? Like, we're not saying anything crazy. We're just like, this is stupid.
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 4 You look silly and then wendy's suggesting that we like drop her off in space and like kill her it was

Speaker 2 it was definitely a strong reaction and you expect that from like a troll not from a verified brand account yeah As someone who's been to Wendy's headquarters in Columbus, Ohio, and taught their social media team how to do social, but we haven't worked together in quite some time.

Speaker 2 You're Wendy's. Like you're not some righteous brand.
Like

Speaker 2 let's be real here. Like, yes, your fun red-headed twitter logo has crushed their snarky clapbacks but in this spirit i felt like it was mean and just weird too far totally agree agreed guys

Speaker 4 agreed agreed it was like it was a little funny when you saw it you're like whoa wendy's yeah no you thought for sure it was like a parody account like an account that was expelled w-e-n-n-d-y-s for sure

Speaker 1 All right, I can't sit here. I listened to the two of you.
I thought it was funny. Oh, I was just being, I was agreeing.

Speaker 4 So you're like, you have a mean-spirited sense of humor?

Speaker 1 I guess I do.

Speaker 1 I guess I do i don't know it's just like okay you went to you went to space it's this like big like everybody's loaded everybody's having fun in space you can't wendy's can't but have fun no i'm saying

Speaker 4 we all had fun i don't feel like we all took it too far wendy's is like oh you really took it too far no and then like this like person on behalf of katy perry like she's making it a bigger deal it wasn't a big deal well you say that the next time like a major brand says something really fucking mean about you okay i by the way i don't think that like that would happen right well you didn't think it would happen to katy perry yet here we are Okay, sure.

Speaker 2 What's it? I'm just like social media.

Speaker 4 You talk pretty big. You talk pretty big.
And then what if it's about you?

Speaker 1 What if Wendy's told me to stay in space?

Speaker 4 Made a national joke about you, basically alluding that you should die.

Speaker 1 I would think that it was strange, and I would probably never do Wendy's again.

Speaker 4 And look, Katie's handling it in her own way, and you handle it in your own way as well.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 We just had Wendy's on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Amazing Diet Code.

Speaker 4 Oh, crisp and bubbly. Oh, what a Diet Coke.

Speaker 2 No, the Baconators on one of my top three naders. I mean, Ralph Nader, Bacon Adam.
Of course.

Speaker 2 But no, it's a delicious thing. And their $1 menu is unbelievable.

Speaker 4 Spicy. Their nuggets are really good.
I did recently, like a tour de France of different nuggets. And I had very low expectations for Wendy's because I actually don't go to Wendy's a lot for nuggets.

Speaker 4 Like I'm pretty loyal to McDonald's. They were silicioso.

Speaker 2 Really. My grandmother famously, May Schwartzmann, her number one one fast food order, you ready for this? Was the baked potato and the chili from Wendy's? I mean, is that

Speaker 4 the baked potato and chili era of Wendy's? It was like the early 2000s, was a cultural reset. I don't know if they still even sell either of those items, do they?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I need to. But I feel like that's what really set them apart.
Now they're just like, in my mind, like a Burger King McDonald's wannabe.

Speaker 4 Whereas like before, they were kind of like a family like destination.

Speaker 1 And they still do the square burger. That's their thing the square oh do they

Speaker 1 you know it's so funny it's so weird that it's so unnatural and there's nothing more or less natural about the shape of processed meat yeah why does it feel so unnatural to eat a square burger you guys also have in and out you have a lot more like regional change you have carls jr we here in new york like we have the big ones you know mcdonald's burger king wendy's white castle we don't have that I don't think we do.

Speaker 2 We do.

Speaker 1 Consider yourself lucky.

Speaker 4 Nobody. No, I mean, like, we have it, but we don't have it.

Speaker 1 We have like those three white castles there's that one up in harlem that has the beautiful sign clams are back nobody's getting your clams okay

Speaker 2 nobody wants your clams white castle white castle is a really crazy chain insane yeah i've never been you've never had a belly bomb oh

Speaker 4 no And I feel like I wouldn't like it. I don't really eat, even when I go to fast food, like I don't eat burgers.
So I know that like burgers are their thing, but they're so small.

Speaker 3 Like, how does that help me?

Speaker 2 It's basically all it is, really, is it's like the thinnest burger that has ever existed on a like a whole King's Hawaiian roll.

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like steam.

Speaker 4 I feel like the boxes they serve them in are really cute and inspired, but other than that, I don't think I would like it.

Speaker 1 That sounds pretty delicious, a thin burger on a Hawaiian bun.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 It's funny who should have burgers. It's a fun time.

Speaker 2 Well, there's another story in the New York Post, which is there's a bride who's under fire for picking ugly bridesmaids.

Speaker 2 That's funny. In quotes, you don't want people to outshine you.

Speaker 4 1,000%.

Speaker 2 A bride-to-be is catching major flack online after being accused of choosing awkward and non-photogenic bridesmaid dresses just so she could look hotter in her wedding photos.

Speaker 2 Every single one of them is someone she's either not that close to or has made fun of for her bridesmaids.

Speaker 2 And people have called them awkward, not photogenic, and some have even been cut out of the actual photos. Guys, thoughts dresses or the people or the girls.
I think it's both.

Speaker 2 It sounded like the girls.

Speaker 4 Well, the thing is, is that did she admit this out loud, or people are just like saying, oh, you chose random, ugly girls because you don't want it. Like, if she admitted this, big mistake.

Speaker 4 Doing it, like, and subconsciously not telling anyone, she's totally allowed to do it. And I think it's a great move.
To say it out loud, that's where she lost me.

Speaker 3 But if she didn't say it out loud and people are accusing her of that, that's also really messed up.

Speaker 2 You're just being one of those bridesmaids and being like, let me look at my friends' pictures.

Speaker 3 And everyone in the post is like,

Speaker 4 you're reading this in the New York Post, like unphotogenic, ugly girls.

Speaker 2 Excuse me.

Speaker 3 Like, girl hires trolls to be her bridesmaids. I would end it all.

Speaker 4 No, a thousand percent. I need to know a little bit more on how she went about doing this.
But listen, brides do crazy things.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 4 What's the craziest thing you did at your wedding?

Speaker 3 The craziest thing? I wasn't.

Speaker 2 I don't, I don't. We didn't have any pomp and circumstance.
Like, we didn't have a cake cutting. We didn't have a first dance.
We didn't. Oh.

Speaker 3 Yeah. We didn't really do any of that.

Speaker 3 i kind of don't like when things are chopped i like really scheduled yeah interrupted i just was like once everyone's eating you can have like two speeches let everyone talk while everyone's eating and then just the rest of the night and do your thing i don't want you to have to like look at me who spoke josh's mom gave a speech my dad gave a speech and then your best man and my sister right i think it was it so we did four nice who is your best man My big brother, Dan.

Speaker 1 Dan.

Speaker 4 Okay, now let's say you guys were getting married today.

Speaker 2 Oh, Ben's a Josh. Ben's a groomsman.

Speaker 4 Ben's a groomsman. He's a groomsman, but he's not the best man.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 2 I respect it. I respect it.

Speaker 2 I respect it.

Speaker 2 Ben, I'll take a groomsman. Yeah, I'll take it.
Absolutely. Am I a groomsman at your wedding, Ben? A thousand percent of it.
Of course you are.

Speaker 2 Let's redo it. Let's renew our vows.

Speaker 1 I'm down.

Speaker 2 We burned all our pictures.

Speaker 4 Getting remarried again. Not remarried.
Sorry. You guys are getting married.
Where are you having your bachelor party?

Speaker 3 and where did you have a bachelor party i had so paige had the blowout bachelorette it wasn't it wasn't a blowout by any means it was like two nights i don't even think we went out the second night it was kind of a disaster with like the hotels and stuff so it wasn't a it was not a blowout and no stripper no

Speaker 3 no i was in the hotel half the time talking to the front desk trying to get rooms because they only booked they there was like all these girls in one room and they were like your rooms aren't ready and i was like it's 1 a.m i i don't know why there's like nowhere for anyone to sleep so i had to go back so it wasn't ideal but josh josh was tell them about yours i i've told this before but i wasn't gonna have a bachelor party and then the morning of the the day before the wedding that morning my wonderful brother-in-law kelly was like we got to do something and i said i don't know well fine let's go to a strip club next to the 405 freeway

Speaker 2 We go. It's me, my groomsman, my brother-in-law, Kelly, and John Stamos go to a place called Four Play right by the 405 and Pico Boulevard.
And we sit down. People are getting dances.

Speaker 2 They pull me up on the stage and take my shirt off. I'm like, I have gynecomastia, please, ladies.
John is throwing money at the stage.

Speaker 2 And then John goes, come on, let's go get a dance upstairs, like in the private room. And I said, okay.
So it's me and John up there. And we're separated by a curtain.

Speaker 2 And I will never forget that all I hear from his side of the curtain is, no, no, no, I'm shy. I'm shy.

Speaker 4 That's pretty good. I also went to Vegas, Paige, but very different.
Yeah. Well, we got married so young.
So I was like, seriously, like everyone in my bachelorette party was like 21, 22.

Speaker 4 We were black out and the whole thing was sponsored by MGM. So like nobody had to pay for anything.
Yeah. I got us like, no, it was actually so sick.

Speaker 4 And it was long, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Like it was never ending.

Speaker 4 We were so young. We had energy.
It was day club, night club, night dinner. So nutty.
Honestly, so much fun.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I mean, 22 in Vegas is like prime.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And like Vegas for LA people, I feel like you go all the time.
I feel like for a lot of the girls at my bachelor's party, it's probably the first time they went to Vegas.

Speaker 1 It's just to be young and have a bachelor party or a bachelorette party. Like what I would give for that.
Now my friend is getting married. He's trying to convince me to go to Vegas.

Speaker 2 I'm like, get out of here.

Speaker 1 Like, what are you nuts? Like, that's what are you nuts? We're 33 years old. You want to go to Vegas? I know Josh, we disagree on this.
I want to just go to Charleston. Let's get a boat for the day.

Speaker 1 Charlie.

Speaker 2 Keep it close.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Miami.

Speaker 2 I do disagree. I agree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't need, I don't want Vegas. I went to Costa Rica.
I never told this story before people almost died on my bachelor party. They're, thank God, totally fine.
It's not what you think.

Speaker 1 He was driving a golf cart.

Speaker 2 No, no,

Speaker 1 literally a golf cart wearing flip-flops and his flip-flop went under the brake. And literally, as they're

Speaker 1 turning over a cliff, and two of my friends literally flew out of the golf cart, somehow landed on two trees and lived, but they literally could have died.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, my God.
Thanks for sharing. Yikes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I've never told that story, but that's fun.

Speaker 2 Should we get to a speakpipe?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. On that note.
If you want to get advice, ask us a question. Go to speakpipe.com slash good guys.
Keep it brief. Brevity is key.
Keep it brief. Hey, brevity is key.

Speaker 2 Here's one from

Speaker 2 oh, this is a good one. Here's one from Slater.

Speaker 3 That's a fake name.

Speaker 5 Giant Moron here. My husband and I are finally a year and a half later planning our honeymoon, and it had me thinking, where did you each go on your honeymoon? Would you recommend it?

Speaker 4 What were the highlights?

Speaker 5 And is there anywhere in retrospect that you wish you would have gone? Please share. Would love some recommendations.

Speaker 1 I'm shocked that a year and a half later you're actually going. Kudos to you.

Speaker 4 Because a fun fact about us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we never went on one. And it's honestly a big regret.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 1 I would have loved to have spent like two weeks on like some safari or like done something.

Speaker 4 No, we got married right before the Jewish holidays. So we were like, we obviously have to be home for the holidays.
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 And I think we were like very overwhelmed by the wedding planning process. So we just were happy to kick the can down the road and we never went.

Speaker 1 And I love that you, you just said that you also wish that we had one because we would always say to ourselves, oh, we travel all the time. Oh, we can't.

Speaker 4 I mean, we taking it a thousand trips, but it's just different.

Speaker 1 Agreed.

Speaker 4 Although what I have heard about honeymooning, and I'm sure you two can add a little bit more color, is like, just be careful not to go, you know, too remote for too long with too little to do because it can turn dark quickly.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we actually went to Cabo, which is like close for us. And we went, we didn't have one planned.
And funny enough, again, we're going to talk about John's Deimos.

Speaker 3 John and his now wife, Caitlin, and our friends, the Bickerstaffs, were like, we're going to Cabo for a few days. Why don't you guys come? It'll be like a honeymoon.

Speaker 3 And it was actually kind of perfect because we went and we had friends. And so we'd go.

Speaker 3 to the pool and we go we had our own like area and our own room and stuff but then we'd go meet up with them and we'd hang out like at their villa and then they did like a whole fireworks show on the beach for us which was really nice so cute they booked us massages they wow they really say booked paid for yeah like yeah they got us massages while we were there it was very nice and everyone was so nice and cabo's close so it's like yeah enough to go and feel like you you have a vacation but it's not too far away and then we ended up going after that flying from there to dc to watch the beach boys perform for the fourth of july how interesting why the beach boys john John's the drummer for the beach boys excuse me John Stamos for 30 years yeah what wait what Are you guys joking?

Speaker 2 I can't.

Speaker 3 No, we're serious. And so they were performing at the Capitol Fourth.

Speaker 4 Kind of like how John Mayer does like Grateful Death.

Speaker 1 John Stamos is the drummer for the Beach Boys.

Speaker 4 Not the original drummer.

Speaker 2 No, of course he's not.

Speaker 3 But he tours with them. Like, I don't think he does all of their performances with them, but he does half at least.
Since the 80s.

Speaker 2 Like, since he became famous on General Hospital.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 2 People don't know this.

Speaker 4 When he was Uncle James.

Speaker 2 Everyone knows this.

Speaker 4 No, they don't. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 No one knows this. No, he does.

Speaker 2 i was watching a show the other day and they brought it up they were like oh john stamos

Speaker 3 beach boy olivia did you know this i found this out about six months ago looking up a photo of jon stamos and i discovered i was like oh he's in the beach boys yeah i'm not gonna lie i didn't know it at first he's like an orange county kid that's where he grew up and he really loved the beach boys and i think that when he started doing full house maybe or before that no like general hospital yeah he like got in with them and was like i love you guys i love your music and they were like come perform with us that's really crazy i didn't know that who knew and by the way we're definitely like everybody must know if olivia gen z olivia knows then we're we're the only people who don't she just found out no but she found out yeah through a loophole through a loophole but she knew it was a loophole she knew i can't believe i've never known never known okay don't feel bad there are a lot of things we don't know

Speaker 6 well here's another one from anonymous hey so i've got a question i'm gonna get right to it newly pregnant and that's my first child you guys just had a podcast talking about um

Speaker 6 your wife's nipples and how great they are when milk comes in um

Speaker 7 my husband's happy he keeps walking around oh no a big titty you that's sober

Speaker 6 sounds like i'm about to be a cow with just udders that are sticking out Is that true? What do I have to expect?

Speaker 4 Now, I'm so sorry to the girl who, to anonymous. I'm going to have to put her question on this back burner because I don't even know what she was asking.
What did you say?

Speaker 1 I think I said that you just have wonderful breasts.

Speaker 4 What did I say not an hour ago?

Speaker 2 Not Claudia.

Speaker 4 That you have been over-sharing.

Speaker 1 I don't think that I said anything.

Speaker 4 I'm going to have to start screening and sitting in on these.

Speaker 3 I was just going to say, we have to fact check. We have to start.
What did you say, Claudia?

Speaker 2 I think.

Speaker 4 What did you say?

Speaker 1 I think that all that I said was that you have wonderful breasts.

Speaker 2 Don't ask Ben for a recap. His memory is shot.
I don't think I'll give you the recap. What do you think I said in the middle?

Speaker 4 What did he say, Josh?

Speaker 2 Ben didn't say it. We both said it.
And by the way, can I just tell you the response? And Olivia, please feel free to jump in or stay out. The response from pregnant women on our YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 I'm flustered. On our YouTube channel has been: thank you boys so much for making us feel so beautiful.
We talked about how deeply aroused

Speaker 2 you ladies feel when you're pregnant, and how beautiful and hot we think you are.

Speaker 4 That was literally bought comments that you made like fake accounts.

Speaker 2 It's not true. It's true.

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 don't even know what to say.

Speaker 4 Wait, Olivia's quoting it.

Speaker 2 Olivia's quoting it.

Speaker 3 Specifically was, and I believe it was Josh who said this. It's pretty cool what happens to their nipples, right?

Speaker 2 And then Ben says, super cool. And that was it.

Speaker 2 Super cool.

Speaker 3 I like how we started this off with Claudia yelling at Ben for oversharing. And this is how it's ending.

Speaker 4 Yep. No, I'm glad.
We needed to have this episode just to sort of get to this moment.

Speaker 2 What did I say? Super cool.

Speaker 4 Like me and Paige aren't fucking going through enough, okay? Like the weight of the fucking world putting it on our shoulders.

Speaker 2 And you two are being like, aren't the nipples cool?

Speaker 1 All I want to say is you could tell me that my nipples are cool once in a while.

Speaker 4 You don't want to hear what I think about your nipples, okay?

Speaker 4 And I certainly wouldn't say it on the podcast.

Speaker 1 You would. You would.
Think about what you say about me on your podcast.

Speaker 4 Okay, now here's the difference

Speaker 4 i definitely share so much about you on the podcast and it's not even all maybe i would say not even 10 remotely flattering like but i only say flattering it's not private stuff what's right

Speaker 1 my nipples what i said i said so cool

Speaker 2 so you should have said josh what should i said no you should have speaking on the nipples say it again i'll tell you what ben should have said that's role play ready yeah and isn't it cool what happens to their nipples

Speaker 2 so those who are only listening, Claudia is sort of nonchalantly shrugging.

Speaker 4 It's abstinence, Ben. You could just abstain.

Speaker 1 And that wouldn't be right to our deaf listeners.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 That wouldn't be right.

Speaker 4 You got me there. You definitely got there.

Speaker 2 Good guys and braille. Okay.
What else do we got?

Speaker 4 By the way, what was her question even?

Speaker 3 I don't. She was saying, like, should I expect to be a cow with others or something? I mean, yeah, like your baby's feeding.
If you plan on breastfeeding, you're kind of a cow for a little while.

Speaker 4 That's the vibe. It is what it is.

Speaker 3 You're just feeding your baby.

Speaker 2 Sounds great.

Speaker 3 That's what happens.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's all about a lens through which you see it, right? Like you could be like, oh, I'm a cow. Or you could see I'm nourishing life with my own body.
How amazing is that?

Speaker 4 I would change your attitude.

Speaker 1 I think that we should turn our entire home into a breast milk home.

Speaker 4 You want to start breastfeeding?

Speaker 2 Yes. No, I'll take it from the regular way or from a bottle.

Speaker 1 Josh, have you ever had Paige's breast milk?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 I've read my sister's.

Speaker 4 Oh, you have olivia's yeah you and i over and i overshare no i've shared i've shared that a million times i didn't suck on her titty

Speaker 4 i tried from a cup like a normal person and this is what i mean when i said like when olivia had her first kid like everybody was like you know gung-ho freaking out and i was like what what does it taste like and she was like give it a shot what did it taste like not much a little like sweet and sour kind of

Speaker 2 and what if you're lactose intolerant i just think that it's amazing that claudia draws the line at ranch, but

Speaker 2 allow a little boob milk.

Speaker 4 Actually, a fun fact about me is while I'm extremely particular about what I eat, I'm really not like, like weird about like body stuff. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like if you needed an enema, I would give it to you and I wouldn't be like weird about it, you know?

Speaker 2 Really? That wouldn't freak you out?

Speaker 4 I mean, I would like talk about it behind your back, being like, wow, Josh had a really hairy butthole. But like, I do.
I, yeah, like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't think body stuff, I kind of like maybe should have been a doctor in another life. Like, I don't, I'm not precious about things like that.

Speaker 2 So there is a little bit of technical difficulties on the New York side. So we are going to get to Paige's what do you nuts because she has to go pick up our beautiful son.
Love you. Thank you, Paige.

Speaker 2 So our woody nuts moment of the week are our gripes with people, places, and things. Paige, take it away.
I can't think of it.

Speaker 3 To be honest with you, I can't think of one because this pregnancy, I feel like everything is a whatey and nuts.

Speaker 2 What about yesterday with when I called a particular piece of clothing something? Do you remember?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 This is, this is my what are you nuts?

Speaker 3 Yesterday, Josh is like staring at me. And he's like, hey, what do you think of my outfit? And I'm like, it's fine.
I mean, I don't like your shoes, but it's fine.

Speaker 3 And then he took the shoes off and was like, what do you think of my outfit?

Speaker 2 And I was like, it's okay.

Speaker 3 And then he was like, well, what do you think of my top?

Speaker 3 And I was like, did you just call your shirt a top? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, what are you nuts? Like,

Speaker 2 you're a grown-ass man.

Speaker 1 Say what are you nuts?

Speaker 3 What do you think of my top?

Speaker 4 Yeah. What are you? Like a blouse?

Speaker 2 Gross.

Speaker 2 You're the shirt, Josh.

Speaker 3 No, it was, it was really, truly jarring to hear.

Speaker 4 Josh, you need to, you need shopping. You need to go shopping for some going out tops.

Speaker 3 Yeah. He was like, what do you think of my top? And it was like a t-shirt from Abercrombie, probably.

Speaker 4 And I was like, where'd you pick that up, Josh, your girlfriend?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 My tops, my tops and bottoms. It's because I need top surgery.

Speaker 3 Not the bottoms. Not the bottoms.

Speaker 2 Top surgery. That's my

Speaker 2 All right, Paige. Go pick up back soon.
Okay, love you guys. Thank you.
Love you, Paige. Bye, Paige.

Speaker 3 Bye. Bye.
See you soon. See you soon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we'll shut them down. Josh, you want to go? You want me to go? Go for it.
All right. My what are you nuts moment of the week is we were just going into central park and we decided, you know

Speaker 1 it's a gorgeous day. We deserve a little ice cream, Josh.
So we go up to the Mr. Softy stand.

Speaker 4 Now, if you're not from New York, Mr. Softie are the ice brand of ice cream trucks that like drive around the park.
They're so good. It's frozen yogurt.

Speaker 4 It's not like your, it's not your grandma's ice cream truck. It's really good.

Speaker 1 It's the OG original swirl. Delicious.

Speaker 2 You could also get

Speaker 1 in Italian ices.

Speaker 2 You could get that little Spider-Man. Real diverse menu.

Speaker 1 It's fantastic. We go up.
We think it's Mr. Softie.
It's not Mr. Softie.
It's a different brand.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the side of the truck, it's an independent soft serve company.

Speaker 1 And the guy, it's, he, he makes up his price, Josh.

Speaker 2 He says, no prices on the wall, nothing.

Speaker 1 We watched the woman in front of us say, can I have a snow cone? He said, sure, miss, that'll be $12.

Speaker 2 $12?

Speaker 1 What a nut.

Speaker 2 What a nut. Unexpected.
Especially, that was bad.

Speaker 4 Like, that made,

Speaker 4 he just was making no sense because then we both got two items. We got two items together and our total was $15.

Speaker 1 Total. And Claudia, not to shame you.

Speaker 4 Oh, don't even say.

Speaker 2 You're going to say, I got a double. Claudia, you got a double.

Speaker 1 It's fantastic, though. It's these two.

Speaker 4 It's a double cone. It's a double cone.

Speaker 2 The double dick.

Speaker 1 Beautiful peaks. It was gorgeous.
I got a Mariano's Italian ices. Oh, this was fantastic.
The wooden spoon gave me a splinter on my tongue.

Speaker 4 I mean, we felt like we got a deal for $15 because the lady in front of us got taken to the cleaner. It was $12.
Wasn't even a snow cone that he like shaved himself.

Speaker 4 It was like the popsicle brand snow cone.

Speaker 2 No, that took it out of his pocket. That is

Speaker 2 price gouging. You were shook.

Speaker 4 I feel like he was just making stuff up.

Speaker 1 He made it up. No, no, there's no pricing anyway.
He has his AirPods in the woman's like snow cone. He's like, 12 bucks.

Speaker 2 She paid it.

Speaker 4 She didn't even blink she paid it that wasn't her first snow cone because she hadn't she had the proper change like she knew what are you nuts it was nutty you have one claudia of course i do and it's inspired by actually our doorman who i love viddy every morning he says how you doing claudia and it just like pains me not to be honest how am i doing i'm tired i'm sick i'm sore i'm exhausted my back hurts and so i'm just kind of done with people asking me like how are you doing don't fucking ask if you don't want to know because what am i supposed to say how are you doing good what are you nuts i haven't been good like dead ass.

Speaker 4 I have not been good probably since like the fourth month, if I'm being completely honest. And I feel like it's a question you ask, and it's always so thoughtful, right?

Speaker 4 Like you ask the pregnant person, how are you feeling? And especially if it comes from another woman, they feel like, you know, they can say it.

Speaker 4 Just don't ask seriously because you don't want to know what's really going on in my life. You really don't.

Speaker 1 It's like when somebody asks you, how is your flight?

Speaker 4 No, I mean, minimize my problems, sure, about your

Speaker 4 good.

Speaker 4 Minimize my shit.

Speaker 2 Sure, good.

Speaker 4 Sure. Keep minimizing my stuff.

Speaker 2 I totally, totally agree claudia what are you nuts my what are you nuts is i went to atlanta on sunday for the day for my dear friend's daughter's wedding gorgeous beautiful wedding beyond it was so fabulous but i do run into this problem sometimes when i'm in a gaggle of civilians which is that there will be parents who are usually it's someone either in their 50s maybe 60s usually 50s and they will say to me you know my kids love you i'm not familiar with you and we've talked about this.

Speaker 2 They feel the need to make me feel bad.

Speaker 2 I could not care less about you, but these kids of mine are going gaga. Yep, yep, yep.
So I was getting hit by it left and right. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And I don't mind.

Speaker 2 I don't mind being the mascot at the wedding. I'm just there to enjoy.
It was stunning, gorgeous wedding. Perfect, perfect, perfect.
But at some point, your boy had had enough.

Speaker 2 So this woman says to me, you know, I don't know who you are, but my kids love you. And I go, it's fine.
It's okay. She's like, are you still acting?

Speaker 2 And I go, which I get a lot because like something like Drinking Josh is so part of,

Speaker 2 it's so big. It's so part of the, you know, the, the lexicon that, you know, I could be like, yeah, I did all this other stuff, but maybe they didn't see it.

Speaker 2 So I go, yeah, I was in Oppenheimer last year.

Speaker 4 Oh, right. By the way, you're an Oppenheimer.
People cannot ask you that question.

Speaker 2 And I, you know, I have these two shows coming out, blah, blah, blah. And she goes, oh, yeah.
And then she looks at me and goes, it's a really hard business isn't it

Speaker 2 and i look at her and i go not for me

Speaker 2 that's a great answer

Speaker 4 yeah that's

Speaker 4 i get that a lot josh like sometimes i get like husbands which i think is really sweet they're like listen i don't listen but like i know my wife loves you can you take a picture so sweet i don't mind it at all but when it's like somebody who's like literally should be my my listener she's like a millennial girly she's like i mean i have no idea who you are but like my roommates obsessed with you.

Speaker 4 Like, do we take a picture? No, actually, like, why don't you know that Joe's? Why don't you listen? You are my target demo. So you're hurting my feelings by letting me know that you're not.

Speaker 2 A hundred percent.

Speaker 1 I get the worst version of both of that, where they don't even acknowledge me. They just come up to me.
They're like, I love your wife.

Speaker 2 Oh, thanks.

Speaker 4 I'm like, thanks. I love that.
Keep doing it, guys.

Speaker 2 I love your wife.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Actually, what I say now is me too.
That's what I say. I say me too.

Speaker 2 Perfect dancer.

Speaker 4 Me too. That is a perfect dancer.

Speaker 1 And you know what else I love?

Speaker 2 I love you. I love you.
I love you, Claude. She's no longer here.

Speaker 1 I love these two beautiful pregnant ladies.

Speaker 1 And, folks, this episode of The Good Guys is five stars. Otherwise, what are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcast.
Watch us on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Share our clips, Instagram, and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays. Folks, Claude, anything you want to plug before we stop?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 4 where do I begin? No,

Speaker 4 you may just know. Like, come find me.
Come find me.

Speaker 1 Come find her.

Speaker 2 We'll see you next time. Love you.
Bye.

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