Will Raw Milk Kill You?!

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What are you nuts?

There we're the good guys.

We're not the great guys.

We're just a good of the the good guys.

Whoa.

Mazomorans, I'm sitting here with the executor to Hulk Hogan's estate.

It's Ben Sauffer.

By the way, it's funny that you bring up Hulk Hogan.

I saw a cereal this morning that I'm fairly certain he was eating.

It may have been the cause of death.

I'm not sure.

It's a cereal that you'll be very interested in if you haven't seen it before, Josh.

Did you see this man's cereal?

No.

It's cereal with creatine in it.

Hell yeah,

right?

That's gotta kill someone, right?

Putting creatine in your cereal that's gotta be a cause of death.

No, no, I think that's pretty lit.

It's called man cereal.

I would have thought it's just made from like beef organs.

By the way, wasn't this my idea like a month ago?

I said that we should make man juice, which was like uh, it was like one of my bad ideas.

That wasn't the name,

It's called Ben's spunk.

Oh my God.

Do you think that the word spunk is grosser than semen?

I certainly do.

I think we got to remove spunk from the lexicon.

It's gross.

I think you just reintroduced it.

I haven't thought about that word in a millennia.

So I bet it's a very dated word.

Spunk.

It's gross.

But it also can mean good.

Like, oh, he's got some spunk.

Yeah, or he's got some spunk on his leg.

Right.

Did you see man's cereal?

Did you look it up?

Yeah, that's wild.

I want no part of that.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

I was going to send you a box, but I feel like you'd just like it too much and you'd end up ODing on creatine.

Nobody needs that.

I don't need you ODing on creatine.

No, that's crazy.

I've been recently doing the night before, I've been making overnight oats.

Ooh, I do it with nice high-end Trader Joe's oatmeal.

I do a little chia seeds.

I do a vegan protein milk that's sweetened.

So it like is giving the natural sweetness and I'm getting protein.

And then a little peanut butter, got to dress it up.

Sorry to my cardiologist.

But here's what I'm doing.

So already we've got a pretty perfect thing now.

But then once it's ready in the morning, I go half that, half Faye yogurt, 0%,

no sweetener in it, because the oatmeal is so darn sweet.

So now I'm banging a yogurt oatmeal mix.

I feel incredible throughout the day.

I love,

I love making a nice little yogurt parfait.

I realized, Josh, in the middle of my parfait last night, which I normally lay down 0% fai as well.

I'll put a nice, healthy granola, some blueberries, maybe some raspberries or strawberries.

And then for a little cake, I put a little drizzle of honey.

Don't shoot me.

You got a cake?

A little drizzle of honey.

I looked at the pack, Josh.

I accidentally bought 5%.

What am I nuts?

I was eating full 5% Fayette.

That is, I mean, it's diarrhea.

It is waiting to happen.

You can't have 5%.

That's nuts, no?

I, I, what I would say, there are plenty of people that would tell you that the fat in yogurt is surely not the issue for people.

Okay.

That's good to hear because

I had a pint over the last five days.

I'm the same as you.

I also don't, it's like the difference between skim and whole milk.

Like, I think I'm so indoctrinated to having skim milk because I was a fat, fat, fatty that like, now when I drink whole milk or I eat that 5% yogurt, I'm like, this is too much.

Like, I don't, I don't even taste the benefit.

No, it's too rich.

The 5%,

I was thinking to myself, wow, this tastes amazing.

Like, this is the best yogurt I've ever had.

And I looked back and I was like, oh my God, I just had 400 calories in yogurt.

Just yogurt.

yeah like it's like it's really but anybody that doesn't like a yogurt parfait this is you haven't you haven't done it right have you had have we been to avra together i've been to avra once i'm not sure why but it's i mean it's it's so over the top are you thinking of the dessert though that i'm thinking of where you order they have a greek yogurt on the menu and it comes at the end And it looks like a scoop of ice cream.

So it's a little bit alarming when you dig in and you think think that it's vanilla ice cream, but it's yogurt.

But then, okay, brain rewires and it's the most delicious yogurt you've ever had.

It's probably a full-fat yogurt with honey, with like a side of a baklava.

Oh my.

I love yogurt.

So delicious.

And the perfect midnight snack.

So much better than eating a Snickers.

This is wild, dude.

These are the desserts as I become a grown-up.

Like you really can't, you have to move away from dirtbag desserts.

You do.

You need to upgrade your dessert selection selection as you move into your 40s because otherwise your body's just going to shut down.

Yeah, and I have to say, if you're interested in something even a little bit more fattening, but I still think that this is healthy, you let me know.

Instead of honey, sometimes I put in a teaspoon of bon maman strawberry jam.

Great.

Woo.

What about this is fantastic, bon maman.

What about Amma jams it?

Sure, I'm in.

Joey Cavasta says it's the best jam there is.

Well, if Joey said it, it's a lie.

I don't know what he's shilling.

He just, what martini did I just see him make?

He's so creative and so funny.

He made like a

cherry tomato martini or something.

And I was like, Joey, what?

You nuts?

I don't want that.

I guess it's kind of like a Bloody Mary, maybe.

I love Joey, though.

What a mch.

Oh, my God.

Please come back on the pot.

He's my favorite person ever.

I love him.

You know, I've been going nuts recently for because, again, I found like a dessert hybrid, this fruit riot.

You know this?

This fruit riot.

I do know fruit riot.

I do.

Okay, so fruit riot first came on the scene with, because it was very popular, very tick tock-y, frozen grapes that were frozen.

And then, you know, before that, they're kind of

drenched in citric acid and a little bit of sugar.

So they have like a real sour pop.

So there's a kind of like a candy hard shell around it.

But the base of it, 90% of it is the fruit.

So you really don't feel that bad.

An entire bag is like 400 calories.

I've done the math.

Don't come from me.

Yeah.

The grapes, this is fine.

Not so interesting.

Pineapple, then they came out with the pineapple.

This is good.

It's a nice vehicle, but it could be better.

Then they came out with mango.

Now, this is already a sugary fruit, but you give it that little sweet, hard shell around it.

It's frozen.

I'm banging a bag a night, my boy.

It is so, I'm fruit, I'm fruit nuts.

I'm a fruit.

And what is that?

Is that like a thousand calories for the mango?

No, it's the entire bag is 400 calories.

That's pretty great.

And it's mostly fruit.

So you don't like, like, if you ate a mango and a half, that's 400 calories on its own, right?

If you ate

three bananas, that's 400 calories.

So it's like, I would say the majority of the calories.

I would say at least 50 to 60% is from the fruit.

I have to try this.

I have to try this.

The mango fruit riot.

I have to try.

I was eating the true fruit for a while because, again, I think it's like a similar idea where it's like, but it's 90% fruit.

No?

Is it?

Yeah, it's a raspberry coated in chocolate.

Same thing.

If yours is 90%, mine's 90%.

That said, I just don't think it tastes that great.

That said, I just don't think it tastes that great.

I'm not like,

eh.

I don't really want like frozen chocolate covered fruit.

I love a strawberry, like a chocolate covered strawberry.

That's fantastic, but it's not frozen.

The strawberry isn't frozen.

The strawberry is perfect.

If you get a nice, it couldn't be less healthy.

If you get a nice chocolate covered strawberry in milk chocolate, oh my god.

Oh my God.

Milk chocolate, honestly, bury me in a fondue of milk chocolate.

I want to be floating.

I want, you're not going to be able to see me.

That's the way that I want.

That's how you go out.

That's how I go out.

I'm completely covered in milk chocolate.

Do we have to lift that?

No, it's not because it would be funny how we'd have to explain it because you're such a fat, fat, fatty that

people go, can you believe what Ben did and how it ended?

And you go, actually, I know what you think.

He's actually, he's a real sicko.

He's actually just floating in milk chocolate.

Like,

you're right to be offended, but you need some context.

He actually just wanted to die by milk chocolate bath.

Sounds like a freaking dream.

And I'd let people come up if they dare and dunk in my casket.

We'll have just trays and trays of marshmallows, cut fruit.

You say goodbye to me like at a wake.

Bye, Ben.

Dunk in the fondue walk.

How nice is that?

You know what else would be fucking sick?

What if, because Jews don't do open caskets, but we love food.

So you do an open casket, but you do it in collaboration with an episode of Is It Cake?

You're just taking a fork to my hand trying to figure it out.

And you make your entire Ben body out of cake.

And everyone.

And everyone gets hungry at a funeral.

So people now go to pay their respect.

They go, I'm going to take an elbow.

All right.

I'm going to get a little bit of his, you know, puppy.

And then

you put it on a plate and you sit, you get a cold diet coke and you listen to the eulogy.

I love it.

Or it's like one of those sexual sushi experiences that you dress my entire body in a smorgasport.

We're looking at locks, cream cheese, capers, onions, cucumbers, bagels, all over my body.

Yeah, I'm in on all of this, okay?

I'm in.

This would make death far less scary if I know that my friends and family are enjoying a beautiful meal.

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The one thing

I think Judaism, I think we're used to the traditions in Judaism, and so we don't look at them as kooky as I think they're as kooky in many ways as most things are kooky when it comes to religion.

But what I will give Jews a lot of credit for is that whether it's like, like, you know, people argue circumcision, but to us, we make it a ceremony.

There's a religious aspect to it.

So

you could have that debate all day, but at least we try to add a layer of holiness to it, which the argument could be we try to add a layer of holiness to

everything.

And especially with death, I find like the fact that we don't try to preserve the body, that we try to turn it over in 24 hours, that you get interned right away into the dirt in like a very basic casket.

There's no keeping, you know, preserving.

It's like right back into the earth.

I, that's how I want to go at least.

Same.

And I think that that's why, like, I, again, it might just be the way that we were raised, but I resonate most with a Jewish ceremony for sure.

And then you spend seven days talking about the person, gathering with family, memorializing them after they're put in the ground.

To me, and this might just be, again, I'm not trying to disrespect anybody out there.

In bombings are just so crazy to me.

The fact that you're like injecting people that are dead to make them look pretty and putting on makeup, I understand that you wouldn't for to have a wake.

You don't want to have a wake and have the person look so scary.

So I understand it from that perspective.

It's just,

again, it might just be foreign to me.

And that's why it's so, you use the word kooky.

It's so kooky to me.

But yeah, if you die, like, or when, when you die, we came from the earth.

You go back to the earth.

Right.

Like, I, it's what resonates most with me.

And there's a reason.

If something stinks, Josh, you throw it away.

You don't put perfume on it.

Okay.

If you hold cheese in the fridge, you're not spritzing with perfume.

You're putting it in the garbage.

And if you let a person just decay, they're going to start smelling.

They should be in the ground immediately.

That's all.

What I don't don't understand is, you know, sometimes caskets are made of steel.

Sometimes they line the hole with cement so that seepage doesn't happen.

I'm like, what are we preserving?

No, you're preserving nothing.

Like the inside of that is, there's nothing, there's going to be nothing there.

It's bones.

And the bones could have, I have to like go back to whatever documentary I saw this in, but like, we basically feed the soil, just like everything else.

Like we decay and we become a part of this gorgeous world that's why like whether you believe in reincarnation or not like i think that if you are in the way that josh described being buried in a wooden casket and you go biodegradably back into the earth you're a part of something i don't know what that is whether it's how people believe that you come back as an elephant i don't know but you're certainly back as a part of this tree that grew wherever you were buried Right?

Yeah, the law of energy is that you energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

So, in theory, what was once this walking bag of energy is now being reintroduced to the earth.

You become caloric energy, the things in which that eat you, and then they redistribute your energy back into the world.

Yeah, makes sense to me.

Yeah, you can't get this anywhere, folks.

You can't get this anywhere else.

This type of conversation, you expected us to, you never know.

Are we going to go the comedic route?

Are we going to talk about death?

We can play both sides.

We're thoughtful.

We are are thoughtful.

But yeah, love that.

How did we get here?

I don't know, but

oh, I got good news for us, babe.

I love good news.

Tell me.

You'll never know who reached out to me

from our recent episode.

A little company called SaraVee.

Oh,

lovely.

Love that.

What do they want to help me jerk off next time?

Stop it.

I'm going to have to get

swag pack before this new episode comes up.

But they heard the episode, even though we did sort of intimate that sometimes lotions could be used for gooning.

But they love the mention and they want to hook us up.

So shout out.

Great product.

Amazing.

Hook me up with a bag of cash.

Okay.

That's the right way to hook me up.

And by the way, they should be leaning in.

They should be leaning into the fact that people use it to jerk off.

They should be.

They would be so much more popular if they just leaned in, lean right in.

Imagine if condom companies advertise themselves as balloons.

No, it's for condom.

It's for sex.

Of course, you could use it as a balloon.

It's not a balloon.

You're not making balloon animals.

The same way that you're not using Cera V on your face.

I'm sorry.

You're using Kiels.

Keels is for the face.

Sera V is for the cock.

Like that's

that's it.

yes no they should do a a a press push where it's like the number one you know lotion in gooning cerevis

number one number one lotion and gooning and it should we should they should have like ads like targeted at parents like if you see a cera v bottle like talk to your son because he's doing it

That would be so funny if it's like a video series sponsored by CeraVe where parents approach their son about jerking it.

Oh my God.

That would be good.

So good.

Oh my gosh.

All right.

Well, Sara V, I'll still take the gifting.

I'll still take the gifting.

Just know where it's going.

Oh my God.

Get out of my head.

Out, out.

Don't imagine that, Josh.

Should we get to a story?

Yeah.

Well, it's going on.

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Beyond a chicken fry got eviscerated by Swifty's via social media after insisting Taylor Swift's team is behind recently leaked songs.

A social media user commented on a since-deleted TikTok on Tuesday to let the Barstool sports personality know that Tay wouldn't want anyone to look at the alleged leaks circulating online.

I don't know anything about this.

Do you?

I don't know anything about it either.

I do know that Taylor Swift's songs do seem to leak more than others, And

I do always wonder, like, who is leaking a song, right?

Like, the producers leaking the song?

Like, how, how, how does, how does a song leak happen?

That said, I want nothing.

I don't want any part of being on the wrong side of the Swifties.

So, whatever the Swifties say, I'm all in on the Swifties.

I will say separately, Breonna Chicken Fry, lovely girl, friend of the podcast.

But not afraid to get in the mix.

But not afraid to get in the mix.

No, not at all.

Yes.

Not at all.

I think she thrives in the mix.

Loves the mix.

She loves the mix.

She loves it.

She's a social blender.

She is.

She is.

Half Adam, the second you said thrives in the mix, all I'm thinking about is the last time I had Chex Mix.

Chex mix can be good.

I haven't had it in at least 10 years.

I hear the word mix, checks.

You ever eat chex cereal, like the honey nut or the cinnamon?

Delish.

Of course.

Like, life was just better when we didn't know how bad everything was for us.

Like, it was just like,

do you know how much I loved an enormous bowl of Reese's Puffs?

Wonderful.

And this is probably the equivalent, this is probably 2,000 calories, the bowl of cereal I was eating.

A big bowl of Reese's Puffs.

Look, shout out General Mills.

They know how to do it.

And by the way, and I don't know if this is like some, um,

some creative labeling, but the labels, because I eat eat a lot of cereal and I have kids.

And so, you know, we do the honey nut Cheerios, blah, blah, blah.

The labels have gotten significantly shorter.

There's significantly less ingredients.

I don't know if they've consolidated it or they've figured out a way to put a health halo around it, but significantly shorter.

I think it's probably a little bit of both.

I think that there's been like so much public pressure to look at what we're eating.

I wouldn't be shocked if they went back to like closer to original formulas, or maybe it's just all fake.

But the problem is, as you know, I'm Canadian Josh over here.

I will one day live and end up in Canada.

You know, I spent a year up there buying cereal for my kids and it tasted exactly the same as the American versions.

They just had way less ingredients.

So you know it couldn't be done.

90, I'd say 95% of the ingredients are simply preservatives.

Like those are all of the lines that you see are just to extend shelf life.

So I'm sure that the Trick cereal in Canada did taste the same as the Trick cereal here, but that Trick cereal in Canada, if they don't sell it after six, if they sell it after six months, it's not good anymore.

That would be the difference in the label.

That's such a great...

point because one thing I notice about whenever I'm living and working in Canada is that the garbage, which, you know, most people like now have like a garbage drawer or like a little garbage cabinet where it goes or under the sink.

I would notice that the garbage would more quickly smell like compost.

Like it smelled like,

I don't know, it just smelled more garbagey and quicker.

Yeah, your fruits, your vegetables, your everything is not supposed to last as long as these things are lasting.

And that if

a piece of fruit had a nutritional fact panel, it would not read apple.

It would read apple, apple coating, apple preservative, things so that when it takes a week to go on the truck and sits in the grocery store for a week, it doesn't rot.

Right.

Like it would have a list.

It wouldn't just be apple, but maybe in Canada, it would just be apple.

I think they have much more European type laws and

that's which, which, which I need because I really think I'm allergic to the preservatives.

I think we've spoken about this in the past.

Like whenever I eat like a piece of pizza or a bowl of pasta.

somewhere where like in Italy, I don't, people say this all the time that they don't feel as sick.

Sure.

And it's because we coat our grains in preservatives.

I think that's probably right.

Yeah, or we're spreading misinformation.

No,

I think it's definitely different.

And I think you're probably walking way more in Italy.

You're like on a trip in Europe and you're like doing and walking and you're up.

And like, that's true.

I'll notice sometimes like if I don't have food around me, I'm not hungry.

But if I'm at home and I'm 40 feet from my kitchen, that's right, 40 fucking feet.

I'm rich.

No,

it's a long hallway to my kitchen.

My kitchen's in the south wing.

I just eat all day because it's there and it's accessible.

Yeah.

I mean, that happened to me literally last night.

I said to myself, Claudia and I got into bed at eight.

I said to myself, oh, you know,

I'm full and I'm proud of you, Ben, for not eating past eight.

And then Claudia said, can you get me a snack?

And I said, of course.

So I go into the kitchen to get her a snack and I come back with 600 calories and yogurt.

I didn't need it.

But because I then went back

this is what happens i i don't want to say this i don't want to ask this as it applies to claudia because she scares the hell out of me i want to ask this just imagine you're a man married to a a woman and you're civilians yes can you say

no it's eight o'clock we should we shouldn't have a snack we're gonna hate ourselves no what are you crazy you can't no no okay no if she if she wants a snack she wants a snack no she's a she's a grown-up She's a grown-up.

Obviously.

No, you could say it.

You could try once, and then she'd say something to the effect of, why are you telling me what to eat?

Or are you counting my calories?

Or why not?

What do you, and then you could say, because it's not good for you.

And then to that, one would say, oh, really?

Like, what did you eat today?

And then I'd have to go through the laundry list of what I ate.

Totally.

No, you're going to feel like shit.

Like, that's the only thing.

Like if it was a late night thing and it was like nine o'clock and Paige was like, ooh, I really want, or

I would,

I mean, I would probably just say yes.

But if I was making a case, I'd be like, let's go get in, like, let's just go to bed and get an insane breakfast in the morning and we'll feel better not having a belly full of schnitzel right now.

I completely agree with you.

That said.

You can't say it.

Can't say it.

Fair.

Okay.

Can't say it.

Unless you're perfect.

Like, I can't say it because I'm not perfect.

Like a lot of nights, I'm the one who wants a snack.

Gotcha.

So I can't then say, you, it's a slightly different story because you really are such a regimented eater and you can speak from like historical experience of, okay, I haven't had food past seven o'clock in X number of months and I feel this much better.

I think you can say it like during the day.

I still don't think that you can deny her her snack.

If Paige says, Josh, pass me the bag of Cheetos.

Yes, honey.

Yes.

Yes.

100%.

Yes.

Yes.

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Ben and I love talking about pasteurization here at the Good Guys Podcast.

A couple of kids got like really good and sick, like full kidney failure from unpasteurized milk.

Do you know what pasteurization is?

Like just like a couple of the fun little dynamics of it?

I'm pretty sure that it's cleaning the milk, but go in, go in and tell me.

Good old Louis Pasteur, scientist,

figured out that if you took milk, you boiled it at a hundred, not even boiled, you brought it up to a temperature of 165 degrees for 15 seconds, that it would kill listeria, all these terrible things in the milk, and that it would be deemed safe, and that people would be much safer drinking it.

That's it.

It's brought up to 165 degrees for 15 seconds.

And it is vilified by people as though it is like this draconian method in which to like poison people.

It's like, it is so

on the level.

And I just think the unpasteurized milk thing is such a dangerous thing to play with.

It's just so hard because you have in one hand the conversation that we just had about an apple you can't trust that an apple is an apple so when people hear that you're with their milk if they don't do a deeper level of research i get why

one would be able to sell me unpasteurized milk and i would think it's better you should be doing research to know that it's dangerous and there's a reason why you're not going mouth to teat on a cow right

but

yeah but it's also there's so many steps in between like the argument could even be made maybe that from from mouth to cow it would be safer, but the problem is it doesn't it doesn't start there, right?

It starts from the cow and then it's moved around and goes through different shipping methods and vats and it's not coming to you that same day.

So there's so many ways in which for pathogens to be introduced

on its ride to your farmer's market or black market

milk place because it's not legal in most states.

It's actually kind of interesting.

You would never, like, we boil everything to make it safe for kids, right?

Like you get pacifiers from Amazon.

You don't stick it straight in Meyer's mouth.

You boil it.

I would assume.

Most people run it under hot water or they boil it.

Sure.

Right.

And that is to kill.

whatever bacteria is in there that you don't want in the baby's mouth.

So yeah, Josh, I'm with you.

Okay.

I'm I'm with you.

You don't have to be talking to me.

I'm with you.

I agree, but it's like, I was thinking about it before when we were talking about like, I think the big gripe is people go like, well, you're not getting the nutrition because, you know, some of it is lost in the heating process.

It's like, babe, babe, like.

You're getting nutrition.

It's like the 5% fat to the 0% fat of the yogurt.

It's like, babe, you're getting a lot of good stuff.

Like,

it's a small discrepancy here.

And we're talking about making it infinitely safer.

So I don't know.

And to be totally honest, if you're getting all of your nutrients from cow's milk,

you're a little dated.

Yeah, sorry, Jebediah.

Yeah, it's very like,

you can supplement.

You can if you need to.

Like, I haven't had a glass of milk.

This is just me.

I haven't had a glass of milk in my life.

Unless there was chocolate mixed in it, which again, the nutritional value is already gone once I have chocolate milk.

But yeah, I always found it strange.

It's typically not Jews.

I don't know many Jews that just drink three glasses of milk.

Were you a milk drinker?

Are you serious?

Was I a milk drinker?

You drank plain milk?

Never.

Yeah, of course.

Okay, I was making sure.

I was like, oh my God.

Drinking my calories?

No, thanks.

Insane.

No, insane.

Okay, I wanted your opinion on this because I think you will have a really good insight.

So the other episode, you were talking about how I code switch for my Kiel's ad

and just what a broken human being I am because I've been acting since I'm used.

You said that.

Not me.

I just want to make sure everybody doesn't think I laced in.

Oh, I'm just saying things we all already know.

Just being a broken human being, having worked since I was 10 years old and having no boundaries or

understanding that I could ever stop.

And

I, you know, and I think that's a healthy thing about you and your approach to work.

Although you did suggest maybe taking a couple weeks off in August from the podcast, I said, what are you nuts?

Two, just two.

I was like, this is the most lucrative sidekick ever, Ben.

Stop it.

Yeah, that won't be happening again.

That won't be happening.

You're going to see the headline soon, folks.

It's big news.

Big, big, big, big, big.

I would love your opinion, honestly, about this.

So,

but I respect, you know, when, when you guys were having Ruby, you wanted to make sure that you took some time off and you even like took time off from emails.

And I know how hard you work and how many businesses and things you have going.

And like, I think that's really healthy.

And I don't, I'm, I'm much less able to do that.

And so I'll tell you what happened.

So I, I've noticed over the last two months, and I've been auditioning and booking jobs and getting close to jobs for almost 30 years.

So I'm really used to it.

But the last two months, it's been really getting to me.

And I think it's because there have been a couple of auditions that I got like violently close for.

Like, basically, you're the guy, you're the guy.

Actually, you're not the guy,

which is, you know, when you feel on that one-yard line and you've got the people calling, and you're starting to see the signs where they're checking availability, all these things.

But one case in particular, it was

a day before Paige was about to give birth.

And I got an audition for something that was like really good, really high-end show.

And they were like, they really like you for this, but you got to put the audition on tape today.

So I just scrambled and I got it done.

And I literally get a text the morning before Paige is about to go into the hospital going, just wanted to let you know to go into the weekend.

They loved your tape.

And I said, oh, what a nice thing to get.

Great.

I can feel good.

Now

let's worry about Meyer and Paige.

Like, this is wonderful.

I'm in the delivery room 30 minutes before she's about to give birth.

I get a text.

They loved your tape so much they want to test you on Tuesday.

It's Friday night.

They want to test you Tuesday morning, which means you go in and you read against the person that they're now going to do the chemistry test with.

So either your spouse, your partner on the show, someone you have to have good chemistry with has already been cast and they want to see what your dynamics like.

But my phone should be off

like i get this text and you know it's not like taking anything away from page page is there and and it's all set but i see this text and i'm like

tuesday morning we'll be home from the hospital like yeah yeah i wish i had just said i'm so glad they liked it And if they want to offer me the part, which didn't shoot for like six weeks.

So I knew that if I did get it, I could do it because it would have been enough time away.

Like, I'd love to do it.

But right now, I can't.

I'm, you know, it's going to be our third day and we're just going to get home from the hospital Monday.

But I go,

let me see.

Let me think about it.

So I ran it by Paige and I said, if I have to go for this audition Tuesday morning, would that be okay with you?

Like, we're going to have plenty of coverage and it'll be an hour and I'll be back home.

She's like, of course.

So I did.

And that whole weekend, I'm like, you know, in between running and doing stuff for Paige in the hospital.

I'm like running my lines, walking the hallways of Cedar Sinai.

And I went for the audition Tuesday morning on two hours of sleep and basically spent a week waiting to hear, which is kind of a good sign because they're like debating you and they haven't decided right away, you're not the guy.

And it didn't go my way.

And I've now had that like two or three times over the last two months.

So it's all great to get really close to things, but I think it's hurting me because I'm not protecting myself and going

i've got a newborn baby i got three kids i got a ben i got the good guys i got the morons thank god baruch hashem i'm taken care of i don't have to sweat money in this moment and like maybe i don't have to worry about auditions i think it's hurting because i'm not honoring where i'm at and being like let off the gas josh like maybe you don't have to run at every opportunity.

It's not always feast or famine.

What do you think?

Yeah.

I think that the second that you

do what you're saying you should do, which is take a step back, prioritize, and be thankful for what you have, you're going to get the biggest thing ever.

That's the way that it works.

It's really, it's so, we've spoken about it before.

And no, I'm not Jay Shetty, like that one commenter on TikTok and eat my ass.

I

think that

when you stop chasing things, they really, good things end up happening.

Like, I don't, I don't don't know.

I think that if you're really, really, really, really close and you're focusing in on it,

it will come.

And that's not to say that you should be declining opportunities.

You miss, what is that expression?

You miss all the hits that you don't take at battle.

You miss

the shots you don't take.

Yeah.

Whatever.

Yeah.

Because that's true.

If you're not in the house, you miss 100% of the bites you don't eat.

That's us.

That's us.

If you're not in the the room, they can't see you, right?

So you have to be active enough that you're still on their radar.

But yeah,

I feel two ways about it.

When I thought for a second that you didn't audition for an hour on Tuesday, I was a little sad.

So

I'm happy that you did it.

Yeah.

What I would have advised is don't answer now.

There's going to be no difference if you answer them the next day.

And if you answered them the next day and they were like, you lost it then there's nothing more you could have done like your wife gave birth to a child and your phone was off exactly as you said um

to never let it take away from your moments but you would have you would have passed no you would have said i think i think that i think that if i received that message i it was local yeah

if if i received that message

immediately I would have said, I need to pass.

So I hope that what I would have done is I would have not responded at all, not thought about it, and woken up the next day and seen if I felt differently.

My gut, a thousand percent in the moment, would have been not right, not happening, no good.

Yeah.

But

who knows?

I don't know.

It'll come, Josh.

Oh, I'm not.

It'll come.

It'll come once you stop chasing it.

I'm not worried about that.

Like, what I'm worried about, or I think, I think for me, it was,

because I've been,

you're focusing on it, and you're saying that you feel like maybe you're, you're not, are you saying that maybe you're not present as much as you wish, or you're not as thankful as you should be because you're chasing it?

I'm, what I'm dissecting is why I feel

it's been hurting more the last month or two.

And so I'm like, what is different?

And I think it is that thing where, because, you know, I turned down that really big gig right before Paige gave birth.

And then all of these things have sort of come up.

But the true, if I'm giving you my capital T truth, if I had to leave now to go to Toronto, to go to New York to like do a job,

it would have been hard over the summer to do that.

It would have been impossible.

I couldn't.

Now, as Meyer gets a little bit older in this fall, this winter, casting directors, if you're listening, no, I'm kidding.

It'll be much more manageable.

But I'm so, I feel so lucky that I got to spend July and August picking up Max and Shai from camp and being with Meyer and Paige.

And

I guess I wish I had just sort of like been able to let go of chasing anything over these two months and not let that pester me in the back of my head of, oh, you're not doing enough.

That's what I'm saying.

Totally.

Totally.

I hear you.

You are doing enough.

And I think that the second that you acknowledge that, they'll just, you'll, it'll book.

It'll, it'll hit.

It'll hit.

Yeah, I'm not worried.

It always does.

I just don't want to be like, I don't want it to affect my

state of being.

The only thing that I can compare it to is I only talk about like the rosy things in spritz society, but having a business requires raising money and being low on money and needing to pitch investors.

And sometimes like, macro market trends, like money dries up, even if your business is amazing.

And I'll pitch, there were times, I don't know, I would pitch

25 people a month and they were all no's, or I'd get really, really, really close with like, they call it a whale, like somebody who could give you 5 million bucks as opposed to somebody you chase like 100 people writing 50K checks.

Like you get one whale.

We were like, we pitched, we pitched like four whales and they were all right there, right there, right there.

Oh, sorry, not the right time because I can put $5 million in a treasury bond and get 5%.

Sure.

And then the second that I stopped, I was like, okay, I can't do anything more.

I did it.

I can't do anything more.

A whale fell in my lap.

It just happens.

I don't know.

Like when you're chasing it and you're so hyper-focused on it and you can't see anything else, it just, it just doesn't happen.

That's at least my experience with everything, everything that I've ever wanted.

If I actively went after it, I never got it.

And then things so passively, this podcast is a perfect example of that.

We did it passively for three years.

I didn't say I wanted an unbelievable podcast and the unbelievable co-host where we have great chemistry and it's so, it just is easy, but like we have a great community.

It just happened.

It just had nothing passive for me about this podcast.

It was passive for you.

You didn't expect this.

You didn't expect this.

Okay.

I'm active.

No.

You didn't expect this, Josh.

No, it's awesome because we're magic.

We're magic.

We're magic.

Two Jews, both

at all.

I don't mean not doing work to clarify.

You still need to do work, but it doesn't need to be your only, like,

this podcast needs to be successful.

No, you record the podcast, you promote the podcast, you do things, and then it's successful.

Not looking at the end result.

I booked the gig.

It's like, am I a better actor?

Am I relaxed in auditions?

Am I doing like all the things?

Not booking.

Yeah, you get it.

You get it.

Should we do a speakpipe?

If you want to ask us a question, get some advice, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys.

Don't give us your witty nutses.

They're not great.

What?

I said they're no good.

They're no good.

Keep it brief.

Brevity is key.

Let's hear from

Anonymous.

Holy shit.

What are you fucking nuts?

I just paid $80 for two movie tickets, a bucket of popcorn, and two ices.

And the people directly next to me and my boyfriend sat there and talked for the entire duration of the movie.

$80 down the drain couldn't focus on a single thing they were saying because I was full on rage mode.

I wanted to say something 19 times but my boyfriend said not to because he didn't want it to start anything.

I

am forever mad that I will never see these people again and that I never got to tell them off.

What would you have done if you just paid $80 for a simple Sunday night date night?

And they talked through the entire fucking movie.

I thought, at first, I thought that the what of you nuts is about the price of movie tickets and popcorn and soda, which is another what of you nuts.

$80 for two tickets of popcorn and a soda.

That is too much money.

You cannot beat yourself up about it because you didn't say anything.

You should have said something immediately.

Like you can't, this is like if I go out to a restaurant, I order a steak medium rare and it comes well done and I eat it.

I can't go home and be upset that I didn't have a medium rare steak.

I could have returned it.

I could have returned it and tried to get a medium rare steak.

You could have easily said something and changed the course of your evening.

Your boyfriend is wrong.

There is no talking in the movies.

Do you not remember that intro?

I think maybe it was for AMC.

Now, talk in the movies.

There's something in the show, and smoking is a no-no, no.

And remember to throw your trash away.

Do you remember that?

Okay.

It's the rules and etiquette proceedings for a movie.

You go in there, you do not talk.

We all are watching the movie.

Okay.

You turn off your phone.

Your phone should not be on ringer.

Okay.

And be cautious.

And I'm talking to myself.

If you're going to get the nachos with cheese, don't munch so loud.

Okay.

You're allowed to eat in the theater.

but do it nicely and discreetly, Josh?

And if you're Avasophore, bring a little chopped liver

to have with your popcorn what's the craziest thing you've ever brought into a movie theater chinese food okay mine is when i was on keto i brought in two sleeves of smoked turkey and a bottle of hellmans oh yeah

i was just having mayo turkey mayo turkey it was fantastic wraps oh god deli meat stench

i was so good i was blowing up the times square amc with beef and broccoli.

Oh my God, that sounds so good.

I just saw on TikTok yesterday a guy fill a spray bottle with

butter.

And he, as he's eating his popcorn, he'll spray the top and eat it.

How genius is that?

It's genius, but the famous Lisa Lampinelli always talks about the ultimate big back move, which is you go to the butter machine and you stick a straw and then you go deep into the caves of the popcorn and then you slowly pull out.

Of course, this is a fantastic move.

I thought the spray though was a direct, it's a direct hit.

Sure.

Yeah, spray.

No, I love it.

Next one, anonymous.

Hey good guys, I'm currently planning my wedding and we're at the stage where we're trying to find a caterer and pick our menu.

So I would love to know what is your ideal wedding food?

We can start with a cocktail hour.

We can go straight to the dinner, the desserts, anything you got, I'd love to hear it.

For context, I'm getting married on the coast.

So any coastal-inspired wedding menus would be awesome.

Thanks.

Love the pod.

First of all, if you're looking for a great caterer in the Northeast, Bruce Saffer, Chef's Table, Bruce at Chefstable LTD.com.

Okay, this is number one.

I'm just saying.

Just saying.

Bruce Saffer, Bruce at chefstable ltd.com.

Number one caterer, East Coast.

You said it's not there no problem if you want to if you want to get married in new jersey you call him if you don't want to get married in new jersey that's up to you we're still going to come up with your menu because i love this so where is she getting married josh coastal coastal what what is

what does this mean like which coasts like

you are getting too specific is it cold is it warm is it a warm coast

coast we're talking seafood

Okay, okay, coastal.

Okay.

Interesting.

What should we eat?

You want to start with the apps?

We'll do some past duo d'oeuvres.

Pastor d'oeuvres.

That's great.

Okay.

We'll do a tuna tartare.

Okay.

I love a tuna tartare, maybe in a little wonton cracker.

That's fantastic.

I'm going to say you do it in a cone a la spago.

They do like an elevated cone, not just wonton, but they do like a bit of a sweet, hard glaze.

So it's got a little more structure to it, and it's fabulous okay i love that

coastal josh coastal i would say you could do a bagel and lox pizza so you do yeah past pizza with creme fraiche uh lox

and uh pizza slices and like maybe some capers and sliced onion dumb that sounds absolutely fantastic um

if you are

If you dabble in seafood, I could see like an oyster shucking

woman walking walking around.

That being pretty fancy, right?

You pick up an oyster, maybe there's the sauces on the side, like your cocktail sauce or your whatever the hell the other ones are.

I think that could be really lovely.

I think also if you dabble in seafood, a fried calamari, Josh, this could be a wonderful thing.

People would be so excited to walk around and dunk in a little piece of calamar into the tomato sauce.

What else is coastal?

Maybe a little tuna burger?

Thoughts on that?

Or a salmon slider?

Well, I think you also need to have like some

meat to balance all the seafood.

So I would say

have a badass chicken and beef saute skewers, but no bad bites.

I'm talking elevated, I'm talking good, and I'm talking like almost charred.

I don't want any bad bites on that thing.

And the chicken

obviously needs a nice Thai peanutty sauce.

And

the beef should have like a beautiful teriyaki glaze.

You know what you could also do because it's coastal again, Josh?

Coastal, maybe it's a little bit, maybe it's a little bit Grik, and perhaps you do past kofta.

What do you think about that?

A nice meat stick, so delicious.

Darn, maybe it's a little mini individual Euros.

Ooh, love, love a Euro.

It's gonna be our Euro.

Okay,

all right, Grik.

Entree.

Oh, I'm now, my brain's now in Greek mode.

A hero?

Yeah.

Maybe a little side individual spani copida.

Perhaps a Greek salad?

Well, I think, but I think with like main dishes,

I think you cannot go wrong.

Where this is what we had at our wedding, and I just thought it was like pretty great.

We did like a killer skirt steak that basically everyone likes with like a

balls blown off chimichur.

I know how you love a chimichurri.

Delish.

We did like a killer salmon, but like properly cooked where it's like slightly rare in the middle, perfect simple grilled salmon.

And then we did this beautiful mushroom rabbi only in this like nice like elevated truffle cream sauce.

And it just felt like it covered whatever, unless you were vegan, like you pretty much recovered.

Yeah, that sounds delicious.

And for this coastal affair, Josh, I know you got to be nice and loaded to do this for everybody, but imagine, imagine a nice lemon-butter Dover soul.

My God, would that be good?

Or perhaps you do a whole branzino.

Maybe you do a whole branzino for like each side of the table and people are just picking.

Yeah, meat would be delicious.

A nice steak is always great.

I'm starving.

As the son of a caterer, tell me what you think.

I think think the worst way you can go

is a

in most cases.

I actually think, and I love family style as it applies to every other thing but a banquet type style wedding thing.

I think it's so hard to execute and to make it hot that I really think buffet style.

I think people look down on it because they think it's like cheaper, but I think better than a seated meal, a past meal, I think better than family style, just do buffet, let people go up, have stations.

I, I'm the biggest, we did a seated dinner because that is what's perceived as more classy.

Oh my, the buffet is so the move.

So the move.

And it can be open longer.

You're not forcing people to eat at a certain time.

It's not so regimented.

Like, honestly, the seated dinner ruins a party.

Because then it's the music stops or like people stop dancing just to eat.

They have to eat during this time.

There's no extra food.

Meanwhile, if you're dancing, having a good time, you get hungry, you pop over to the buffet.

Yeah.

I love a buffet.

All in on the buffet.

My sister's wedding, buffet.

Oof, it's just fantastic.

God bless her.

Fantastic.

And I say you have those women that they have in Vegas that come up to you at the baccarat table and they have the cigarettes and the cigars.

Yes.

Cigars.

They got a nice, they got the, you know, the bustier on.

I'm just going.

And they're, they're walking around and you're like, let me get a pack of parliaments, dear.

I'll have a Hennessy and here's 10 for you.

Yeah, I love it.

And a nice quick five-minute back rub.

Imagine somebody walking around, quick shoulder rub.

You're very tense at a wedding.

I'm in.

Get 40 masseuse.

That's good.

Masseurs?

Masseuse's?

Masseus's.

Masseus's.

I was at our friend's wedding, and I didn't realize how many people were on drugs at the wedding.

And I'm just sober Sally there being like, like, how good is this like club soda?

And their eyes were the size of frisbees.

And I saw them at the breakfast the next day.

And I'm like, you know, hey, Ken, remember what we were talking about?

This?

And they were like, who are you?

And I'm like, oh, right.

It's funny.

You were under the influence and I wasn't.

Eyes the size of frisbees.

Should we get to our what are you nuts?

Yes, we should.

Our what what are you nuts moment of the week are our gripes with people, places, and things, both big and small, whatever, sticking in your craw.

Ben, what do you got?

This weekend, this is actually, it's really not a what are you nuts.

It's really the opposite of what are you nuts.

But this weekend, Jackie threw her son Charlie a gorgeous birthday party.

Okay, gorgeous birthday party.

And let me tell you, Josh, she thought of something.

That it's a whatey and nuts that I've never had before at a private party.

She got a Carvell truck.

Okay.

What are you nuts that I've never seen that before?

It was genius.

You walk up, you get a gorgeous soft serve.

I'm angry at myself that I've gone 33 years.

No Carvell truck.

I'm very creative on my birthday.

This was just so unbelievable.

I was left jealous that I've never done it.

So now every birthday from now on, I'm going to have a Carvel truck.

That is so sick.

We had a Mr.

Softie truck for Shai's birthday in October.

Shout out.

There's only one Mr.

Softie in Camarillo, California.

Shout out.

Owner Owner of it is the best dude.

Go to it.

If you need your East Coast ice cream fix, I say it again.

And it's not because he gave me a great rate for Shai's birthday.

Mr.

Softie in Camarillo, located 170.

No, did I get it?

So good.

An ice cream truck is...

It's also not as much money as you would think it is, and it's really classy.

Like, so you have a freaking ice cream truck pull up at your house for a private party.

People are going to think, my God, they're loaded when they don't know.

You know, there are more expensive things, Josh.

Ice cream's eight bucks.

How much could they charge you?

They can't.

They can't.

You?

My what do you nuts is?

It has come to my attention that there is a Starbucks located in the CIA headquarters, but

they're not allowed to use names for your order.

What do you nuts?

you don't think they're gonna start remembering the people that came in can you imagine if you like had a co-worker and i was the starbucks employee and i'm like haven't seen um red shirt for a while

how's brown hair i hope he's not um

overseas

I hope he's not, I hope he's not dead.

Yeah, that's a woody nuts.

That's what he nuts.

Also, what?

They don't use mobile ordering.

So they're standing in line like no, you're still mobile ordering, or are they hiding it?

But then imagine the amount of people that are gonna end up just stealing your coffee.

That's my coffee.

How do you know?

You need that because my name's on it.

Have a signal.

My name.

My name.

Terrible.

What are you, nuts?

You know what else is nuts, Josh?

What?

What?

Giving this episode five stars is nuts.

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Monday and Thursdays, folks.

We will see ya.

What are you going to say?

Do you know that I recently ran into Alex Cooper and she told me good guys is her favorite podcast?

Did I tell you that?

You didn't.

It's not true.

Okay,

no, no, no, but it's true.

No, don't say it's not true.

We cut it there.

Okay, we'll cut it there.

Yeah.

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