Tucker, Kimmel, and Charlie Sheen

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I'm sitting here with a guy that when Tucker Carlson talks about people sitting around eating hummus, he means this guy.

It's Ben Sauper.

I, Josh, I sent that to you instantly.

I was like, honestly, what the fuck is going on here?

Yeah.

I saw that clip.

For those of you that didn't see it,

Charlie Kirk had a memorial service

and

how many people went, Josh?

Like 100,000?

It was like a football stadium.

Unbelievable.

Huge turnout.

And

the clip that I saw, there were, again, a lot of wonderful moments, like good tributes.

Tucker Carlson really just needs to like go in a hole and

like

he needs to go away at this point.

Like him and Candace Owens, I don't want to get too into Candace Owens.

The two of them, though, they need to go somewhere else and at least least get away from like my for you feed, my algorithm.

I don't want to see them anymore.

Tucker Carlson got up there and basically compared what happened with Charlie Kirk to what the Jews did to Jesus was what he implied.

That a bunch of Jews sat around eating hummus, deciding that Jesus spoke a little bit too much truth and killed him, which is like the deepest of deep anti-Semitic tropes.

It's the way

it's the first one.

To get people to hate Jews, you tell the largest religion in the world that they murdered their captain.

Like that is the number, even though it's been disputed over and over and over and over again.

Sure, we might have said he's over there.

No, I'm kidding.

Sure, sure.

But we don't kill people because of what they say.

That's the core root of this whole thing.

Yes.

There are plenty of opinions that we don't like.

We don't kill people over it.

And this idea that

Tucker Carlson came out saying just like, and nobody laughed.

I can't believe he was even on a podium.

He laughed with that cat.

He's lost it.

He's lost it.

I'm just glad that Vineyard Vines makes 4X.

And also,

I just have to say

that

he makes, you know, I'm a proprietor of nicotine pouches and he has his own company.

And I just am here to tell you, they suck.

They like my father-in-law didn't like them either.

I pawned him off on my father-in-law.

I said, Hey, Ken, you want to try these?

He's like, not for me.

They suck.

Yeah.

Well, I'm sorry to start the show off on such a sour note, but I saw this and I was really angry.

I was angry around.

I was really angry because this is not right.

And like, this is not representative.

I hated that it happened there too.

Like, I hated that it happened at a memorial service.

for Charlie Kirk.

Like, I don't think that what he said represents the values of

most people in that room.

Like,

I, it really upset me.

That's all.

I agree.

Yeah, let's turn it around.

I agree.

Don't worry.

I have some good news.

But, and in closing, I will say the most important person there, Erica Kirk, I thought really has spoken beautifully.

And her level of forgiveness and grace and the hardest thing anyone could ever face, I give her a tremendous amount of credit.

And I hope for more, that we take more of that cue, everyone, of forgiveness and grace and just having a little bit of,

you know,

pausing when agitated, restraint of pen and tongue.

Yeah, Josh, it's an interesting time.

And then I know you're going to turn this episode around and take us out of Gloomsville, but it's an interesting time where we are recording.

on Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year.

But by the time this episode comes out, because we record about a week early, it will be Yom Kippur, which is the Jewish holiday of forgiveness.

So I thought that I would just mention that parallel in what you said, given that we're still on a serious, somber note, that yes, forgive.

Well, I

think

sorry, and then forgive.

Well, Yom Kippur is a day of atonement.

So we're being forgiven for our sins.

Yes.

Right.

And then in doing so, we forgive others.

Yes.

Yes.

You're basically, it's your blank slate holiday.

It's your, you go,

you atone for your sins, and you hope that not only

Hashem or God, but that the people around you forgive you as well.

It's one of those.

Love it.

My favorite holiday.

I love it.

I sit there, I think, and then I eat.

Well, I love that the Catholics do it once a week and the Jews said, fat.

Once a year is fine and we'll

starve ourselves for for the first half of the day to show we mean it yes yes we're starving ourselves the 24-hour fast you know it's interesting i've never really thought about it we yes we do it once a year catholics do it whenever you think that's what leads to jewish guilt that we have to hold on to this for 365 days versus in catholicism you can hold on to it for a minute

could be i don't know there's jewish guilt is real You either have it or you don't.

Like you either get it or you don't.

Like you walk around, you're just guilty all the time, probably because your sins are weighing on you and you can unleash them.

I bet you the day of the least Jewish guilt is the day after Yom Kippur.

Yeah, it would be interesting.

I don't know.

I mean, the Catholics surely have a good amount of guilt too.

Like there's no, say, Olivia's nodding her head here.

If, you know, we have one right here in the flesh.

Yes.

So, I mean, come on.

But yeah, I think in general, although like, you know, in 12-step, we have, you know, part of it is that you look at your day.

At the end of every day, you look at your day, you take a quick like spot inventory where we could have been better, where we owe an amends.

And I think like most religions offer that too, if you really want to look at things.

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Well, I listen, I'm going to bring it, I'm going to bring us back.

I've got some good news.

I want to share with the pod, with the audience.

I booked a show for next week.

I'm going to be doing a special guest appearance, my first time ever on the Jimmy Kimmel show.

I'm really excited.

And why are you guys laughing?

No, it's going to be great.

I'm actually the first guest, which is a real, it shows off my level of celebrity.

And yeah, they haven't gotten any details to me yet, but

I'm excited.

I was really excited for some really good news.

That's really funny.

That's really funny.

You know what I found out, which is also really funny?

You know who else?

They share a manager.

What's his name?

Who also just recently got Colbert?

Colbert and Kimmel share share the same manager.

That guy's having a terrible monk.

I believe it.

Well, he's had an incredible decade, though.

He's had an incredible 30 years.

Yeah.

I saw him.

I guess we're going to talk about Kimmel.

Yeah.

Look, I know we're a little bit delayed.

It doesn't mean our opinions don't matter.

I am so with the people on freedom of speech is incredibly important.

That said, we've been canceling people for the last six years

for saying things 20 years before.

So I think there's like this like tough line where it's like your freedom,

you're free to speak in this country.

You're not free of consequences in this country, especially from private organizations.

Would I have canceled his show if I was ABC?

No, but ABC does that.

ABC did it with Bill Maher.

I don't know if you saw the clip, but Bill Maher like was canceled for something incredibly similar 20 years ago and replaced by Jimmy Kimmel.

And it's just like the, it just happens.

So I think like this whole like,

this is unprecedented.

We've never seen it before.

It's incredibly precedented.

It stinks, right?

Like regardless of what you think of Kimmel, it stinks.

He went on to do his show and he said something.

By the way, I don't think his show is getting canceled.

I think he'll come back personally.

It's like a suspension hiatus, whatever it may be.

I think he'll come back, but they said they were clearing out the set.

Oh, yeah, they're done.

I mean, I think most people are assuming it's a done.

But then I saw on Twitter something that like they were clearing, which would be, that would be be impossible.

They wouldn't do that within a day.

But like, how do you feel?

Or if you want to respond to what I said first, you can do that.

Or just how do you feel?

Like people are saying this is unprecedented.

People over the last, how long has canceled culture, like formally cancel culture, where you go, you don't like someone and what they say.

So you dig through their past and you find a tweet that you don't like.

And then you ruin their career, take away their shows, take away their revenue streams.

Like when did that start?

10 years ago, eight years ago?

Like, why is that?

Why is that different than what this is?

And why is this a problem that that's not a problem?

Here's where it's unprecedented.

I totally agree with everything you're saying.

What could, what is alleged here, and there's some very clear evidence to it, but we don't know the totality of it, is because Trump said a week before Kimmel's next,

and because the FCC chair the day, the morning of, said that people need to, basically the distributors of Jimmy's show throughout the country need to start leaning on ABC to do a disciplinary action for Jimmy and say we're not going to distribute his show anymore and he intimated that that in and if not maybe we will revoke their license to be able to distribute so basically i think what is different here is it feels like there was government overreach in him getting like them weighing on Disney and here and we don't know the answer this is alleged of course but I've been thinking a lot about it the problem is is that as we saw with the CBS paramount deal that needed governmental approval to close right and all of these major media corporations need government

they need to work with the government And so what I was thinking was, even if the government never said a thing,

they almost don't have to, right?

Because any savvy CEO chairman is going to be like, I can't go against the biggest guy in the world.

And I need their approval to get these mergers, to get these things done.

And I think that's kind of, it's a little bit of the scary part that they almost don't even have to say anything because you know that if you go against them, they're not going to approve your deals.

I completely agree with you should have the ability to say whatever you want, but that's what a podcast is.

That's not to your point, like broadcast is a different world and it's such a larger conversation because that medium is dead, is dead.

Late night television is dead.

Like people who, like we can have a more intimate, fun conversation with a celebrity, and I think we do.

than a fallon can have, which by the way, I'm sure he's holding his breath, but

that a fallon can have with a celebrity, right?

The new medium of late night television, I'm sure there's a better version than just your run-of-the-mill podcast, but podcasting is that, right?

And you,

you're not like, Trump can't tell me and you what to do, right?

Like,

like, but it's, it's the connection to the deals and it's the connection to the broadcast medium that I think is

is still playing by older rules.

So he has the right without it being a freedom of speech violation to say,

I don't want you talking negatively about me because I'm your boss.

Like, what do you think about that?

I'm not saying that's right.

I'm just thinking through it.

I don't think I think it's dangerous whenever a president, I mean, it's the freedom of the press, right?

And that's the whole idea that the press keeps the powers that be in check.

right this isn't in theory why we want our lawmakers not to just be lobbied by billionaires right It's to keep the billionaires out because they can sway so much power with their level of,

you know,

their ability in which to persuade fiscally.

But

yeah, man, I mean, look, TV is tough, right?

Because there is the assumption, it's the same thing with radio.

It's governed by the FCC because there is the assumption that it's for everyone.

It's like a public utility, especially when you're on the major networks.

So you are,

you can't say the seven deadly words.

You have to keep a certain level of censorship just because it's assumed that you are inviting everyone to watch it.

If you have HBO, something's behind a paywall, a podcast, a book, go off, hun, because it's like someone needs to pay for it or a kid in theory would need approval to consume it.

I don't know what kids up late night going, I got to see what Guillermo is going to say, but you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, but and why, like, what's stopping the FCC from monitoring podcasts?

They're free.

Because it's, I think the assumption is, is that, well, I guess, but I think it's just they, they regulate certain bodies and they do not regulate podcasts.

They regulate certain bodies today.

So the bigger slippery slope scary conversation is if the FCC is able to do something like this, which I haven't heard anybody talk about it like this before.

And the FCC obviously will grow with the times.

Like they'll only start to really think about podcasting, I'm sure, in a decade because they're so slow.

But then all of a sudden, it completely changes the medium, right?

And then all of a sudden you have precedent of if the FCC doesn't like what you said,

then they can fire a podcast host or pull a podcast or right.

There's a, that's a slippery slope that I don't like.

100%.

I mean, look, we have to be able to completely rail against our government officials verbally in a,

you know, in a nonviolent way.

Like that's, that's just it.

That was at the heart of, you know, the White House correspondence dinner always rang kind of funny to me, right?

Because basically the whole idea was that the president goes and gets roasted by the press who are the ones keeping him in check, right?

But it always, and

some people held it as like this

sort of distillation of the best part of our country where, you know, the top brass and the press sit and they laugh and they drink for an evening and they all kind of accept their roles in this gigantic sort of system.

I always thought it was weird that the president of the New York Times is like hobnobbing with a senator.

I'm like, no, like, isn't your job to be like, I'm fucking watching you, Jack.

Like, make sure you keep things together because I will write a scathing piece the moment you get out of line.

And I think it's weird when they're like sharing hors d'oeuvres, being like, can you believe?

So I don't know, obviously, and I'm not, you know, I'm the one millionth person to say the press is extremely important.

And you worry that if like it starts with late night, could it go to one day the New York Times?

Yeah.

I just, I have so many thoughts.

Like you, you talk about a roast.

Like I think at the core of all of this, and we always say this.

If something's funny enough, then I don't think people take issue with it.

I do think that kimmel and colbert

and it's not just them i think bill maher does this too but again he is not on abc anymore i do think that they take a non-funny tone and if they were roasting him it would be a little bit different i think that it turned from

uh a funny late night like that's what late night like not all of it but them two in particular like they're comedians right

and and i i do think that when they talk about Trump and when they've spoken about Trump, they stopped feeling the need to be funny.

And I do think that that's sort of when things swayed.

It was no longer we're making fun of his hair or making fun of his policies or we're, you can even call out somebody's character if you do it in a funny way.

I feel like it just flipped to like

fuck him, you know?

I think Bill Maher is separate.

I think he's still quite brilliant.

And he's always been a political comedian.

Like his show is based around politics and to his credit, he always has on

people from every side.

He's willing to get into the muck and he always says, and it's how I identify myself.

He's like, I'm, you know, I'm liberal.

I'm not woke.

Right.

That's what he always says.

Like, if he prides himself on being like an old school Democrat, which is how I, I, I think of myself for today.

And

for the record, just because I read the comments, me too

I think of myself as him as well, right?

Like like and like when I see people

mentioning like oh Ben's uh Ben's a Republican or conservative or whatever it may be.

I'm every single thing that Bill Maher has ever said I agree with I've never listened to him and thought otherwise Yeah, I think I think yeah, I think the lines have moved but

yeah, I mean, I'm I'm with I'm also also with Bill Maher in that way.

And it's the fascinating thing that you talk about with Tucker in certain ways.

Like, I, over the last couple of years, I understandably have watched friends who were Jewish feel like they weren't, you know, people on the left weren't speaking up enough for the anti-Semitism that was being experienced in the country, right?

And so many of them moved far more right than they had ever been because they felt like they were the only people speaking up.

To which I said to them, I love you.

Do you, babe, understand?

I said, don't forget that the place where both parties meet on the far reaches is a dislike for us.

I said, so we're not safe anywhere.

And that Tucker beat the other night was a perfect embodiment of like, just don't forget we're not really safe anywhere.

And that's just unfortunately kind of been our journey throughout all of time.

But

yeah, I just, you know, I agree with you.

I think that it gets to a certain point where

people

feel as though they're speaking truth to power.

They get a platform.

People get into their 50s and 60s.

It's so telling, right?

We're seeing it with Rogan now.

I mean, where they feel like I just need to use my power to speak up about how I feel and that I see things specifically that.

that the world isn't quite seeing the way I am.

And there was always an uncle at Thanksgiving who was that way, but they didn't have a platform of a million, 10 million, 50 million.

So we hear it the most with these guys, which I think it would be more interesting to see new late-night people that didn't look like the old guard and see what they had to say.

Yeah, it would be.

I'm now stuck.

My brain is now stuck in thinking about the FCC as it relates to podcasts because Rogan's views are so much larger than any, any TV station.

So I feel like it's like, and I wonder what podcasting would look like, because this, this is that medium.

Video podcasts are late night television.

Sure.

What Call Her Daddy does when she brings on a guest, that's the same thing.

Like, I know that it happens in a different environment.

It's the same thing with

Rogan, these like truly guest-based shows.

I feel like it's, I feel like it's got to be soon that they regulate it.

And then what happens when they regulate it?

My brain is going everywhere now.

Olivia's not going to stand for it.

That's what.

No good.

Not at all.

That's when we move.

Then we go full Patreon and that's it.

And sorry.

Paywall.

That's it.

Then you'll hear what we really have to say.

Oh, my God.

How quickly do we get canceled after we start a Patreon?

I'm giving us a month.

I think a month is a long time.

Less.

Less.

Less.

It's going to be bad.

Oh, man.

I love it.

Listen, where's Smite?

Where's Olivia Smite?

It's a bear cat.

Okay, is that right?

Yeah, yeah, that's a bear cat here.

This is what's the mascot for yeshiva, the yids, the yeah, I don't know, the Yamako.

I don't know.

I don't know who that is.

You don't know your mascot from your college.

It's maybe it's the no, it wasn't very sporty.

Shleppas, there's something.

It's what is it, Blue?

Horn dogs.

We didn't have a mascot for homeschool.

The enmeshed boys.

Was it the Maccabees, Ben?

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you, Olivia.

You're welcome.

Yeah, the Yeshiva Maccabees.

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You spoke earlier to Russia Shana.

So you are getting ready to have a beautiful first night dinner at your house.

Walk us through what's a prep look like, what's on the menu.

Oh my, this is a big, this is a big deal.

Like I have not hosted a group like this in my,

in my like cooking era.

Like I'm taking it very seriously.

Like it's, it's very important to me that this meal is considered.

And I will read you the exact menu, Josh,

because it's, it's, it's elaborate.

First,

we're starting off with some, my sister is allergic to gluten.

So we have two different types of starters.

We have a nice pigs in a blanket.

We have a nice little,

it's like a shwarma pastry.

I found it at the kosher grocery.

I'm just heating it up.

It looks amazing.

It's like shwarma in a puff pastry, but she doesn't eat puff pastry.

So for her, I got yellowtail, I got tuna, and I got salmon, and I made some sashimi.

I made a yellowtail jalapeno, I I made a like salmon and scallions.

And I made a tuna belly.

And it's going to be like, there's some soy sauce, there's some wasabi, et cetera.

Just pickings, pickings.

Non-traditional Russian for sure, but very excited about it.

That's going to be out there

for people to nash on.

Then, Josh, we're going to a soup course.

Wait, I have to say, isn't it fascinating that Jews are obsessed with pigs in a blanket, but we don't eat pig?

Yes, we are.

Yes, and we need to rename it to something cow in a blanket.

Muslims can't pig either.

Can you imagine them being like,

Ali, do you want like a pig in a sleeping bag?

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

No, the term pig in a blanket, it doesn't make any sense.

It's also, it's so mean.

Yeah.

Like, you're going to put like a nice pig in a blanket and then burn him and eat him.

It's so mean.

It's so mean.

Okay, wait.

Where is the rest of my menu, menu, menu?

Sorry, give me one second.

Oh, this is great

it's it's big it's big okay we have the chicken soup which we've made just like onions the classic onions celery carrots chicken soup chicken my dad as you know yes makes eats no meat so we made him a butternut squash that is the that is the vegetarian option so he wouldn't just do like pick around the chicken like he wouldn't consume the broth

like he might

i just prefer to make sure that Bruce is comfortable, you know?

Make sure that, make sure that, just in case he doesn't want to.

Fair.

Then, Josh, we have a mashed potato.

We have a roasted vegetable medley.

We're talking about carrots, butternut squash, Brussels sprouts, onions, just pan-roasted, oven-roasted.

I made an orzo with roasted vegetables, roasted red peppers, eggplants, onion, garlic, zucchini.

Also for my dad, I made a roasted eggplant with pomegranates.

The theme, Rosh Hashanah, is all about fruits.

It's all about new.

It's all about apples, honey, pomegranate seeds.

So we did pomegranate seeds, parsley, krina, which is like a nice

sesame paste.

I made an apple and pomegranate slaw, Josh.

Think of that coleslaw, but apples and pomegranates, okay?

And then I did the most unbelievable brisket.

This is...

six and a half pounds of second cut.

First cut, not fatty enough.

And I've made that mistake in the past.

You see first cut, you're like, oh, this is, this is what I should be using.

Got it in my charly.

Got it.

Yeah, first cut.

Really, second cut is the better cut for brisket.

A little bit fattier leads to more juicy pieces.

So I've made first cup brisket.

I've made second cup brisket.

I highly recommend second cut brisket.

And

what else?

I got four different kinds of honey, Josh.

I'm making an apple and honey platter.

I got a regular honey.

I found a blueberry honey, like infused, a pomegranate honey, and there's a fourth, a truffle honey.

Okay, Josh, I'm going all out.

Let me ask you this because as we know, the Jews, they don't mix milk and meat, but

this presents a problem to have a mash, right?

Because as we know, it doesn't.

A mash.

It must be.

It's a non-dairy mash.

How can that be?

Lots.

Ready?

Ready?

I'll tell you.

And I looked into it because my sister, it makes it a lot easier for me to abide by these because my sister's also allergic to dairy.

She got the worst of it.

No gluten, no dairy.

Poor Maddie.

It's very hard for her, but the second she discovered it, my God, did she become skinny.

She used to be one of us, and then boom, no dairy, no gluten, svelt.

Fabulous.

It's like a supermodel.

Good for her.

And the way that you make mashed potatoes, Josh.

Without dairy, how would you thicken a pasta, Josh, if you didn't want to use cream?

A little olive oil

and

a little pasta water because it's starchy.

You can use the starchy potato water to thicken your mash.

No!

I haven't made it yet.

I haven't made it yet.

I'll let you know how it turns out.

It's not going to be great.

I'll let you know.

I'll keep you posting.

I'm leaning on the fact that there's going to be a fuck ton of roasted garlic in it.

Can you use vegan?

And I'm going to do my best.

Are you going to use like vegan butter?

You do vegan butter.

Nothing.

I'm using oil, salt, pepper, potatoes, potato water, garlic.

Garlic powder, onion powder.

A lot.

Yeah.

What about

I think the oil is necessary?

I know.

I know why you're doing mash because you want a bed for the brisket to lay across.

As we know, potatoes are the tempur-pedic to the brisket.

Yes, they are.

Is there a different style of potato that you could do that doesn't require so much dairy?

Or as I saw you make your beautiful Queen Claudia, perhaps on a rice.

I know Maddie can eat rice.

I was thinking about rice.

There's just something so nice about having a bed of potatoes

under your brisket.

But you're 100% right.

I could have done an ice rice.

I could have done, I cooked with a Persian chef recently and we made tadig.

Tadig.

This is like a crispy, gorgeous turmeric and saffrony rice.

Gorgeous.

Could have done that.

I don't know.

You know, it's not too late.

I could mix the mashed potatoes.

I just,

I want mashed potatoes.

I really do.

You're right.

There's so much better with butter.

God.

I guess I could use margarine.

Like, just go and get margarine.

You could do vegan butters.

I mean, we do a lot of that in my house.

And it works, the vegan butter?

Yeah, fabulous.

Right, so I'm going to go get a vegan butter.

You're right.

I'm not going to mess around.

You could do.

I could do a vegan parm.

Yeah.

A vegan parm, which is probably just nuts, right?

Like cashews or something.

Yeah.

All right.

I'm in.

All right.

I'm going to do that.

Tell me how it goes.

Yeah, it's conversation.

I love there's that clip of that famous chef who used to cook Anna Winter lunch every day.

Have you seen that?

Yes.

I love that.

Is it Jeffrey Zakarian?

Is that who did it?

Sounds like it.

Yeah.

And how she'd want a burger bloody.

Yes.

And then mashed potatoes that were like 60% butter.

That's the way to do it.

Yeah.

That's the way to do it.

also get your chunky mashed potatoes out of here sorry i want it smooth as silk yes smooth um should we get to a story we should we should did you know that charlie sheen was cut off by the mexican cartel over his massive cocaine consumption

Charlie Sheen once purchased so much cocaine, the Mexican cartel put a halt to his consumption.

The cartel cut you off, journalist Amelia Adams asked the two and a half man alum.

He said, they did.

They did.

They had never seen someone acquiring that kind of weight, Sheen 60 added, referring to the amount of grams he would request.

The only other people that they were delivering that kind of weight to were dealers.

They thought I was dealing on the side.

Adams then asked the actor if it was true that he was smoking seven gram rocks of crack cocaine.

Well, we never took one out and put it on a scale, but that was the amount that was cooked to get it into that form.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

it was an amazing doc i know we spoke about it last a couple episodes ago it was an amazing documentary if you haven't seen it you absolutely need to watch it and the fact that his drug dealer was the one who weamed him off the crack rocks is still something that i can't get out of my head what a good friend totally you know like like he easily

like

Charlie Sheen would have bought crack from somebody else if it wasn't this guy.

So anybody saying like, oh, but he still sold him crack, like, no, he sold him crack to keep him alive.

Otherwise, somebody else would have sold him the crack and Charlie Sheen would have died.

Or maybe he wouldn't have died, but it is, right?

Yeah, it's beautiful.

And he ends up marrying the crack dealer or something.

Yeah, that'd be beautiful.

Love it.

Me too.

Well, did you know Sarah Michelle Geller got called out for buying daughter ridiculously expensive car on 16th birthday?

Sarah Michelle Geller faced backlash online after she revealed she gifted her daughter Charlotte a ridiculously expensive Jeep for her 16th birthday.

Fans gathered in the comments section of the Buffy Stars Friday Instagram post in which she wished her teen a happy birthday to call her out for the disappointing parenting move.

Happy birthday, Charlotte.

Don't normalize gifting ridiculously expensive cars to new and young drivers.

I think you've taken away from your wonderful daughter's birthday, sadly.

One social media user wrote, Give me a break.

I don't like that at all.

No, everybody should just like leave people alone that said when you post something online you open it up to the criticism right could have gifted it in private and nobody would ever know but i'm sure that she was incredibly proud of it and

look if you want to if you have the money to do it and you want to spoil your kids spoil your kids i don't think that there's such thing as spoiling your kids with a jeep I could be way off base.

It's a Jeep.

You can lease one right now for $350 a month.

It's one of the best lease deals.

It's a Jeep.

Like, it definitely doesn't doesn't make fun of SoCal Jeep.

No, yeah.

Right?

But, like, it doesn't.

There's two things, like, spoiling your daughter with a ridiculously expensive Jeep.

Like, it's just, it's not, it's not a thing.

Like, what is the most expensive Jeep?

It's not like she got her a Bentley or a Lamborghini or something.

No, I haven't seen a picture of the car, but it's sick.

I mean, I'm sure it's a $60,000 Jeep.

Like, it's

getting, look, any, I think any 16-year-old that gets a brand new car, like, even if it's a Corolla or, you know, a Mercedes, like is definitely like nice.

Most of us get like used crappy cars if we get a car.

Totally.

Totally.

And I do think it's, again, these are just like personal parenting opinions, but I do think it's a rite of passage to get that crappy car if you get a car at all.

It makes you appreciate these things more, but that's not my job to like do the parenting for her.

I do think that she would appreciate a car more if she was able to buy her brand new souped up Jeep herself, if that's what she really wanted when she was 24 and today you got her a you your old car but her old car by the way is probably a 911

like like it is what it is like when you're when you're rich like i i don't think that she's driving i don't think sarah michelle geller is driving around in a toyota sienna so if she gifts it to her it's going to be a really nice car anyway so what do you do i think the jeep is actually probably the very appropriate normal option for sarah michelle geller's daughter I think so too I just don't think it's anyone's business like it is what it is I I think we should all go around the room and say what I want young Max or my kids to have is like a five whatever the year is a five-year prior Volvo I'm talking safe I'm talking kind of like anti-cool it's cool and just safe, safe, safe.

And, you know, if it gets into a rec, they'll be okay.

and we won't uh we won't be too upset ben what's ruby's first car gonna be he's like a testa rosa

i think ruby's first car is it completely depends on where we live if we still live in the city he won't have a first car sure like he'll be using whatever i use he's more than welcome to borrow it bruce is suburban dad it smells like vodka sauce

Yeah, that was the best.

And it's also, I don't know, it's too, I actually don't know how people do it in suburbia.

like it's way too much freedom to give a 15 year old a 16 year old a car where they can just go and come as they please like i'm sure that my parents would have been very uncomfortable with that like i needed to tell them hi i'm using the car to go and do x when you have your own car you can just go too free like i don't know like i feel like you shouldn't have that level of freedom until you are a little bit more responsible than 16.

um

but uh yeah so it'll be whatever i whatever i have or what's going to be the cool car, Josh, in 18 years.

We'll do Evolvo.

I'm down.

Something safe.

Safe, safe, safe.

Safety is key.

Olivia?

Yeah, I think, well, my first car was a 2000 Ford Taurus that burned oil and the window fell down all the time.

So anything that's like a little bit up from that, probably a little bit safer.

The gaslight too didn't work.

So I just run out of gas because I just had no idea where I was.

But so I don't know, maybe like my mom had like a Honda Accord.

I feel like that's like a, it's stable, it's safe, maybe one that's, you know, similar to what you said, a few years, you know, back, safe, good to go.

Doesn't need like a ton of work, but we can keep it going.

And then they got to learn to take care of it to make sure they get that oil changed.

Well, I got my license in 2002 and then, or 2003, and my first car was a 87 Mercedes-Benz 300E.

It was sick, seafoot.

Sea green.

It was the best.

Wow.

Beautiful.

I need a picture of that.

I was just going to say, like, one of my best friends growing up, his dad got him

the sickest cars ever.

Like, his first car was like a BMW Six Series.

He's like, again, 15.

Wow.

And then when he became of age, he got a Volvo.

Like, you can't go back to that.

Like, once.

If your parents are buying you $100 plus $1,000 cars, just know that your kid can't ever,

you can't get back there right so you can give it to them but know what you're doing which is i think uh while it's a lovely gesture you're like robbing them of the fun of being able to get a mercedes sea foam green in 1987 when they've earned it right like which is like such a better feeling than being 15.

You won't, you don't realize it when you're 15 because when you're 15 and you get handed that, you feel like you're on top of the world.

But I'm telling you, looking back,

like he would have preferred to have gotten a very normal whatever car so that as he progressed and he bought things with his own money, it could like be continuously going up, if that makes sense.

Should we get to our new segment, You Having a Good Day, How About Now?

Yes.

Yes.

We're trying things, folks.

We're trying things.

I think this one's going to land.

I think we've actually done it a few times, but as we all know, I've broken social media with my You having a good day, how about now series.

So we thought we would incorporate it into the podcast with some fun facts that are totally gonna bum you out.

Ben, got one,

yeah, having a good day.

How about oh, wait, what do I say?

Having a good day, and then I say it, how about now?

Sure, having it, and I'm just gonna okay, having a good day, Fanto was made by the Nazis.

How about now?

Got any more facts about that?

I mean, let's look

Here, I've got one.

Hey,

having a good day?

Did you know that you can get plastic surgery from someone who isn't a board-certified plastic surgeon?

They could just be a doctor, any kind of doctor, a radiologist, a podiatrist, a dermatologist.

They took a weekend class and suddenly they're giving you a bad broken nose job.

How about now?

Terrible.

Oh, I have a great one that I actually just learned.

Having a good day.

Do you know that bodegas, as in New York-style delis, do not need, they don't have health grades.

They don't, they're not governed by the Board of Health.

So, when you go and get a sand, so when you go and get a sandwich, they literally could have had

a rat sitting under the turkey and nobody would give two shits.

How about now?

Hell yeah.

Why do I want to say how about now?

Like I in a garden, having a good day?

How about now?

Have you how easy is that?

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Should we get to some more on mail?

Yes.

Oh, another rebrand.

Goodbye speakpipe.

I know we've said it in the past.

We're no longer giving that really great company, by the way.

Really fantastic, but we're no longer plugging them.

We've plugged them enough.

Okay, we've been plugging them since Marshall.

I think Marshall's the CEO of SpeakPipe.

Probably.

Okay.

He probably is.

He gets equity in it.

Moron Mail.

That was crowdsourced, right?

People wanted it.

People got it.

It's moron mail.

Maybe, Josh, we get the little sound.

You've got mail.

Maybe we make one of those and we'd put it in.

Olivia, can we do that independently?

Definitely.

I got you.

You've got mail.

Moron mail.

You've got mail.

Or

maybe we can do like, you're not smart.

Or like,

let's give you a couple sound bites.

You're a moron.

You're moron mail.

Moron mail.

I like that.

Moron mail.

Moron mail.

All right.

Well, if you want to send us more on mail, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys.

No, we need moronmail.com slash good guys.

How do we make it?

Olivia, can you make that for us too?

Perfect.

Let me get an HTML certified.

Let me just code some Python.

Go tob.com slash good guys.

Keep it brief.

Brevity's key.

But if you want a question or you want some advice, go for it.

This first one is from Catherine.

Hi, good guys.

Brevity's key.

Such a fan.

I have been dating my boyfriend for about nine months.

He is the best ever.

My family loves him.

I love him.

My friends love him.

Couldn't get any better.

But the one issue I do have is that from the very beginning, I've always my issue he

loves cocaine and I do not like drugs I do not like cocaine I don't like any of it and he doesn't do it when we're together or when he's with my family or when we're traveling but when he's with friends especially a certain group of friends I know that he does cocaine and I hate it and I told him I hate it and when he's with a certain group he won't stop what do I do?

He's awesome.

He's great.

But when he gets with this one group, which is a lot because we do like to have, you know, nats where we go out with our own friend groups.

We're not glued out the hip.

And he does cocaine.

What do I do?

Damn.

Wow.

I didn't know where this was going.

First of all,

I'd like to, again, we don't have enough information.

I'd love to know how old they are, Josh.

True.

Based on her, like it would be

regardless, you shouldn't be doing cocaine.

It was cool at one point.

Now, too many people are dying.

Okay.

Like there's a real fentanyl problem.

You can pick other drugs that are a little bit less scary.

And if you're going to be the person that tells me, oh, I tested before, that takes all the fun out of it.

Like, what?

You're going to go and test drugs?

No, you can't do that.

Play Russian roulette with your life.

Yeah, you shouldn't play.

You shouldn't.

You shouldn't do cocaine.

But

moving on from that,

if you're like 23

and you still have like a little time to grow up, okay, if you and your boyfriend right now are in your 30s and he's like going out with his friends, like doing a bunch of Coke, you should leave him.

Like, like, or you should look him in the face and say, like, I love you.

You're a great guy, but when you do this, it makes me really uncomfortable.

And the fact that I'm telling you it makes me uncomfortable and you won't stop.

means you probably have a problem.

So you should probably figure out that problem.

And clearly your friends, that specific friend group are are just like a bunch of enablers.

So I don't know if you agree, Josh, but it completely depends to me how old they are.

If he's still like early 20s and he still has time to, I guess, like figure this stuff out.

But as it gets later, that can just become like a nasty habit that

she's not going to want to be around.

Yeah.

Coke is a real losery drug and people that do Coke are losers.

My caveat is to Ben's point about age, we all or most of us go through a loser phase.

Yeah.

Sometimes we have to go through a loser phase, which your boyfriend is clearly in.

Now, depending on there's some extraneous circumstance, age,

where he is in his job, where he is with you.

But if you guys are thinking about being like really serious, getting married, having kids,

I just...

I don't know.

I've never met a guy who like does cocaine where I'm like, I want that guy to be my doctor or I want to get into business with that guy.

I always go, keep an eye on that guy.

So

you don't want to be that guy.

And to your point, almost every doctor and almost every businessman had a little Coke phase.

Probably.

Like, it's not like, it's nothing to be ashamed of when you're young and experimenting and you can look back and say, oh, that was fun and stupid.

You have to be able to look back and say, oh, that was fun and stupid.

And I'm not doing it anymore.

Right.

Otherwise, yes, you cannot be trusted.

So I think you're right.

I also, I've never heard of a relationship that worked where one person was addicted to Coke and the other hated Coke.

Right.

Like, like usually, like, somebody who likes Coke finds somebody who likes Coke.

Like that, like, at least, like, you're like, Simpatiko in your love of Coke.

But if your girlfriend hates Coke,

I don't know.

That seems like a deal breaker to me.

Unless you're my friend's, my friend Sonia from the Ukraine, he used to go, yo, bro, you want to go get some Coke?

Like, I'm good, bro.

He goes, Coke's are sick, bro.

And then he goes,

I'm sure that your friend's girlfriend also loved Coke.

Dude, Sonia was the best.

And he used to have a Russian pickup or a Ukrainian pickup line where he would go up to girls and be like, hey, do you like sour cream in your Borsch?

And

they would be like, yeah, of course.

Like, there's no other way to eat it.

And he'd be like, cool, me too.

It was just like the way.

And then he head-butted a kid and got indicted.

And

yeah, the kid was powerful um his dad was really rich and a lawyer um but sonia's not doing great oh man

sonya

sonia shout out the best he was a kickboxer um should we get to uh let's see all right let's do one more uh more on mail

more on mail

Well, this one, it's funny because it says her name, but then she says, this is my name, but say anonymous.

So I will say anonymous.

Anyways, here's Judy.

Yeah.

Hi, good guys.

Avid listener here.

Thank you so much for always putting out premium content.

So I'm a 27-year-old girl in corporate America and the youngest by about 10 years, and I'm always mindful of that.

There's a woman in the office next to me who is always clearing her throat, snorting, blowing her nose.

When she blows her nose, it sounds like she's shredding paper, and it drives me insane.

I keep my earphones in at work.

I shut my door when I'm allowed to, and I have a portable white noise machine.

Is there anything else I can do about this, or do I just have to get the fuck over it?

Because she can't help it.

And I get it, sinuses are so annoying, but I can't listen to it any longer.

I'm going to go crazy.

Okay, love you guys.

Bye.

As somebody who forever

cleared their throat, Josh, I don't know if you know this about me, but for a very long time, I was.

There are two culprits, one seasonal allergies.

I'd start there.

I'd I'd go up to your neighbor and I'd say, hey,

I'd love to help you.

I've noticed that you clear your throat a lot.

Pretend that you did it too.

That's the way that you'll reason with her.

Hey, I used to have the same thing.

I used to,

but then I started taking Zyrtec every day.

And then I started taking Claradin every day.

See if that helps.

Because believe me, she doesn't want to clear her throat.

It's not like a comfortable feeling to need to constantly clear your throat.

She might have seasonal allergies.

The second thing, if she, maybe she's already taking those things, she clearly is having like an acid reflux problem.

So maybe like a, is that Prilosec?

What are the ones that no longer cause cancer?

There's like a bunch of them.

Okay, pepsid nexin, I think next.

Sure, that sounds great.

I'd recommend those.

And if they never work, the truth is you really just have to deal with it.

Maybe ask to switch desks.

Can you go somewhere else?

You said you're in corporate America.

Like, I don't think, unless it's just like an office of two, there's probably other people.

So why don't you switch your spot?

Um,

yeah, I would, I would go to her concerned, like, hey, I used to have your problem.

Yeah, don't anymore.

Thanks to Claritin.

Love that idea.

I also think you can weaponize empathy, right?

So what you do is you go up to her really and you just go, are you okay?

Like, and, but like, you have to go so, you have to make her embarrassed by how much you care and say, listen, I have found an ear, nose, and throat person for you.

This is obviously signs of something.

I mean, no, are you okay?

You must be miserable clearing your throat this much.

I, I'm dying for you.

And you offer resource, you make her good and embarrassed so that every time she, and she'll go, no, no, no, I'm fine.

Oh, no, God, thank you.

No, no, no, I'm fine.

I have a general practitioner.

I go to, you know, I go to the women's clinic.

But you want her to say

every time she wants to clear her throat to go, oh my God, if I do, the cavalry is coming.

And that's so embarrassing.

So I'm just going to hold it in.

This is great advice.

Yeah.

I completely agree.

Shame her.

I completely agree.

Shame her with love.

And again, make up that you have the same problem.

Become relatable.

Yeah.

Okay.

She should relate to you.

So true.

Should we get to a what are you nuts?

We should.

Our what are you nuts?

Not rebranding that.

Sticking with that.

Yeah, that's a winner.

Our what are you nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places, and things, both big and small, whatever, sticking in your craw.

Ben, what do you got?

So I walked into the Great Bloomingdales the other day, and I've spoken before.

It's a very dated practice that you are just spritzing perfume all over the place.

And I walk by, somebody says to me, free sample.

No, I don't want your free sample.

I don't want your perfume.

It's not going to make me smell, feel good.

It's too many fumes.

I hate it.

Okay.

That said,

this was not such a serious offense before I had Ruby.

Josh, I go into Bloomingdale's.

Me and Claudia, we're going to take the beautiful Ruby for lunch at 40 carats.

We're walking through.

Which Claudia hates, right?

She loves.

I hate.

You hate.

I can't stand the food at 40 carats.

Okay, gotcha.

Drek.

Gotcha.

It's Drek.

They need a rebrand, even though their yogurt is fantastic.

But I love a department store cafe.

It's fantastic.

I love a department store in general.

I'm walking by John Varvados for men.

Spritz.

What are you nuts?

My son is literally four months old right there, right there.

I'm telling you, the Varvados cologne hit the stroller.

Like, how?

Like, I don't know this for sure.

I feel like a spritz of perfume could literally send him into anaphylactic shock.

Like,

I think it can.

I think it can.

I'm pretty sure it can.

We should have a new segment called

Fact Check, Ben.

I'm pretty sure that it can.

And it's

a episode, Ben.

No, I'm kidding.

At a minimum, like

have some, I don't know, restraint,

not even restraint, like have

have some, no, keep going, have some, uh, have some more, no, I don't know,

use your brain, okay?

That's what I'm looking to say,

yeah, don't spray your Varvedos cologne on my four-year, four-month-old son.

That's all.

You?

What is what is your what are you nuts?

My what are you nuts is

I'll save this for for the next episode, but I recently did a surprise appearance at my friend's son's bar mitzvah.

And the

friend of mine, dear, dear friend, great guy, he was a producer of the once-hit show semi-hit.

Really not a hit.

It only went one season, Turner and Hooch on Disney Plus, which I have so much love and affection for.

And it was really a great show.

But, you know, it got killed by, and a lot of streamers do this now, that because these things are evergreen and they live on the streaming platforms forever, there's no way for the streamers to control how much people are going to watch them in, you know, totality, right?

So many streamers have done this and Disney Plus did this.

Turner and Hooch, Stamos' show Big Shots, I think Mighty Ducks.

They basically took like 30 or 40 original titles and a bunch of movies and said, we're taking it off the platform because they have to pay residuals every time people watch it, right?

So they're like, we'd rather not have to pay residuals on these.

We'd rather not have, we can take it as a tax loss if we take them off the

streaming platform.

But the problem is that's fine, but there's nowhere to find it.

It's gone.

It has evaporated.

The Showturner and Hoots does not exist in any world ever anymore.

First of all, ouch.

Yeah, what the hell?

But it's one of like literally hundreds at every, you know, it's like famously HBO did this where they made Batgirl and then they just killed it.

A hundred million dollar movie because they rather take the tax loss than take the chance of putting it out and maybe it's not super successful.

So my answer is, what do you nuts?

Do you, babe?

Like, take it off the streaming platform, but make it available to buy.

Like, can't we get it?

I want to show my kids in a couple of years.

It was a a cute show.

What's the reason not to make it available to buy?

That doesn't hurt them.

Why can't they put it for purchase?

I don't know.

They want to like, because then they have to, like, pay residuals and keep track of it.

But they're making money.

Like, that I don't, who cares?

I'm in.

Turner and Hooch.

It's a little message.

It was a cute show, but I think it's Mishuga.

I just don't like that it's been put in witness protection.

Yeah.

Totally.

Trying to think what else has been.

We'll save that for Patreon.

There are a lot of shows, honestly.

Cosby.

Totally.

You know what else is Meshuga?

Not giving this episode five stars.

That's Meshuga.

What are you?

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