Charles Entertainment Cheese and The Horrors of Virality

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A mother's dream premium podcast team, make it your weekly routine, it's a good guys. And if you don't give us five stars, What are you nuts? What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.
And if you don't give us five stars, what are you nuts? What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys. They're not the great guys.
We're just the good, good, good, good guys. Benjamin, how the hell are you? I'm wonderful, Joshua.
How are you doing? How are you doing? My big New York Jets fan. Go Jets! Go Jets.
You know what? Baruch Hashem. Baruch Hashem.
Thank you, God. I'm good, man.
Us Jews, we're so superstitious. We are.
BHBH, BHBH, BHBH. Even last night, even last night, Josh, we were talking about release of the hostages.
They're not being released anymore. What happened? They're not? Did Hamasas back out that is so Hamas of them

yeah yeah yeah they change they change the terms they're like yeah yeah you know this isn't gonna work for us so BH BH it happens I didn't mean to start us off on that note but BH it happens absolutely Josh and I were vigorously texting as we do you know night in and night out politics like trade rumors, trade stories.

And, you know, we started talking a little bit about the hostages and how I'm just going to say it, Josh, I'm happy that the deal didn't go through. I know that that's a controversial statement because I want every freaking hostage back, but it was a raw deal.
So I'd much prefer to see a better deal, a better deal. It doesn't include the trade of what was it? 34 for a a thousand? Was it that, right? 34 for a thousand? And like, these are 34 innocent people and those are a thousand convicted felons.
And so it felt like a raw deal. So while I'm sad that we're not getting the hostages back, I do think it was a raw deal.
That's all I'm saying. Yes.
And you revealed, and I think it's worth talking about because I'm sure you have thoughts about it that you don't share with me. You and I, we debate over text.
And by that, I mean, I send you chunks. It looks like we're in a breakup.
I send you big blue. I'm passionate.
I am passionate. And Ben has gotten to a point where he won't respond at all and he just leaves me on red and i think it's fucking mean i don't know if he has like an alarm clock set for 10 30 eastern where he's like i want to fight yep like like hey ben i know that you're probably just like settling in watching some dumb tv show but i want to fucking fight and i want you to hear me and i'm just like you know i don't want to fight i'm good i'm going to sleep good night in my defense you text olivia and i at 8 30 a.m it'll be 5 30 in the morning and i'll be like, Olivia, he's got to push 10 minutes.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I'm sorry. No, 100%.
But that's on me. That's me.
That's me. That's me.
I shouldn't be communicating that early. That said, you do sometimes text me at 5.45 and I'm like, holy smokes, he's up for the day.
All right. Time to get to work.
I am. Usually I am.
Speaking of time to get to work, Josh, I've gotten at least 15 DMs, at least we're blowing up at least 15 DMs saying that our song needs to be on Spotify. A hundred percent.
The great super Chris, our producer of the song has already told me ways in which to optimize financially for Spotify because it's all about the money, money, money, money, money, money, money. And I say we start a movement much like Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt because they made her song number one.
A thousand percent. Like people don't know that like like while you didn't lose your house, you could have.
So like just in case you do one day, we need to create a sack of cash based on streams to the good guys song. California isn't safe,

Josh.

You never know.

So God forbid Josh's house gets swooped away.

We want to have a sack of cash that was contributed to by all of you by

listening to our full length good guys theme song on Spotify.

I think that works.

This is not a go fund me.

This is a run fund me.

Run to fund me.

And it's preventative, but you go to the doctor for a preventative screening why not preventatively help us yes i don't want to come to you in a moment of crisis where you feel bad for me i'm coming to you now fund us now so we don't have to ask you later and so you don't think we're deceiving you let me just say outright this money is gonna go nowhere I'm buying knickknacks i'm doing caviar upgrades on my dinners this money will be misspent what percentage of the funds will be going towards chuck e cheese for children under six i got a hook up there okay so fine none of it all right love you charles charles entertainment cheese charles i need to know what charles like, Josh. What do you think the Charles looks like? This is an old white man in that suit, right? No, it's an employee.
I will tell you that when we had my son's birthday there, which was just a red letter day and the staff couldn't have been better. The wonderful one of the guys working there kind of sidled up to me after the Chuck E.
Cheese show because Chucky only comes out once every two hours. You know what I mean? It's like Haley's Comet.
You got to be ready. And he so he saddles up to me.
He's like, thanks for coming. Like, would you mind? Could I get a photo? And it was my pleasure.
And he goes, just so you know, I'm Chucky. I was like i was like tyrone you were a vision when i tell you my parents took me to disney world when i was around that age and i was so deathly afraid of every single character say more about mickey mouse no i just like seeing mickey mouse i thought he was gonna kill me yeah pluto i thought he was gonna kill me I thought these were like beasts.
Like I just, I could, I couldn't do it. So to hear that shy just wants to be, understands that Charles entertainment cheese is a friend.
Yes. Like I think that's great.
I think that's great. Also to comments on the two versus not quite six, but Olivia, my sister and Olivia, her kids are four and two.
And they went, I went with them to one of her daughter's name is michaela one of michaela's friends birthday parties name for these jewish in-laws michaela and levi this is ribca schmul and their daughter patty patty what's her middle name?

Oh, Flanagan.

Well, we're at this birthday party, Josh, and it's one of those ball pits.

Okay.

And we keep our eye off for one minute.

And that Levi runs all the way up to the top.

And we're like, don't jump.

Don't jump.

And he just leaps like 30 feet in the air into the ball pit.

And he was fine.

But like these kids, these two-year-olds, man, they are adventurous. They are daredevils.
Not me, though. I was not I was nothing of the sort.
But this this this young buck, he's an adventure seeker. Sounds much like shy.
Adventure seeking. Yes.
No. Growing up, I was thrill seeking with calories.
You know, how high can I go? You know, a thousand calories for a single meal at eight years old. Me too.
How can I incorporate mayonnaise and Russian dressing, mayonnaise and ketchup to make Russian dressing into this dish? Whether it be pasta, pizza. How can I incorporate mayonnaise, fruit? You really think the culprit behind your childhood obesity was Russian dressing, huh? Because you're an outlier.
I think that I think Russian dressing was really big starting at the age of around 12. I think that was a big culprit.
But then I think just big eyes and a brain that never told me I was full. That's the real culprit, my friend.
Yeah, that's the real culprit. Just being disconnected brain to body.
Body's like, stop it. Brain's like, why? That's the culprit.
We need to study that. The disconnect between the brain and the body.
Why does the brain want what the body doesn't? And why does the body want what the brain doesn't? Why aren't we simpatico? Say simpatico again. Why aren't we simpatico? Wow.
I feel like I'm in Milan. It was good.
I really have a lot of thoughts on this. And I know that I think what you will say is Ozempic does do this.
And I think it does it to an extent. But I think if you are a hardcore addict towards anything, drugs, alcohol, food, you know, I know plenty of people who have eaten through GLP-1s.
Because, to your exact point, it was never about the food. Right.
And I've heard this example used in the 12 step programs and in the rooms that if alcohol was the problem, we would take addicts and we would trap them and jail them for 30 days and make them dry out so that the physical dependency had left. And then everything would be solved.
But of course, it's not the alcohol that's a problem, it's our brain. And thus, even when the substance is removed, the need, the want to numb out, to quiet those thoughts and feelings remains.
Totally. Yeah, and it's, it's funny that you say that about the GLPs.
I think that it depends on what you're on. Some people can eat through them.
Certainly. I have found that if you then switch to a different one, it's harder for you to eat through it.
Having been on it when you're on the right one, you just don't have food noise and food noise is the problem. It's like, go eat, go eat, go eat, go eat, go eat.
I'm full. I'm full.
I don't want to go eat. I don't want to.
My belly hurts. I don't want another pie of pizza.
Like that's the thing. See, it's brain.
And I do think that the GLPs seem to help with the brain stuff, but. I think it definitely helps.
When I went off at Josh, oh my, holy crap. It came back just like a rush like i needed to eat i needed to eat no matter what like nothing would the only thing that really helps is if you od on protein i think that helps with people that overeat if you were to instead of od on a pie a pizza if you were to get three 32 ounce steaks and try to finish those, I think that would work.
Well, it's nutrient dense, right? Like that's the whole idea. If you can eat 2000 calories of super nutrient dense foods, you're going to feel much more satiated than if it was 2000 calories of donuts.
Just boring, man. It's boring.
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I don't think there's any way around unless you're sweating regularly. I don't sweat.
I don't sweat. You have really teed me up with something that I've been thinking about with good old you.
And I'm down to go there if you're down to clown.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like, are you going to be mean?

Am I mean, Olivia?

I walk around this office.

It's like I'm the president here at Dear Media.

These people swoon for me I'm not mean no you're not mean you're not mean but like go give it to me lay it on I think that you have taken up some causes and this is a big part of why I think we have these debates be it fluoride be it seed it seed oil. I mentioned one time fluoride.
I haven't thought about fluoride since you're fluoride, fluoride, fluoride, fluoride, fluoride. I don't spend my time thinking about fluoride.
I don't, I still drink tap water. I just go on one day.
I'm like, I'm not going to drink tap water anymore. I drink it every day.
AG one gets mixed in my tap water every morning. I'm just like, I'm just like a chipmunk.
I just like fluoride. You know, just like whatever happens in my brain.
Like fluoride, seed oil, this, that. I think it's called undiagnosed ADD.
Like that's it. But continue, lay it on.
Okay, fine. Well, that makes me feel way better and actually a hundred% right.
That's it. That's it.
Some of the things I, the thing on seed oils, actually, no, I want you to go. And then I want to talk at seed oils, but I want you to go.
What else is worrying you that I can perhaps alleviate your concerns? Okay. Fluoride seed oil and creatine has been something on my mind for years.
I'm glad you're at the party. I'm glad you arrived, but honey, you're late.
And so I, like you, heard a lot of compelling evidence, or should I say opinion with a study here and there that aligned with the way you're thinking. And I was there.
I was where you were. But now with time, I found my way all the way back to somewhere in the middle because i think to your point i actually don't feel too bullish on on any of it except what i do feel bullish on is being polarizing and fear-mongering yes of course so of course i am say more because i liked what you said about seed oils let's talk about seed oils we're gonna throw we're gonna throw fluoride out the window for now because i agree who knows you seem to know based on what you've listened to based on what the people that have done the studies on whatever they did i get it i get it fluoride i'm still drinking tap water no matter what so it is what it is is.
Is it there? Yes. Is it hurting me? I don't know.
I hope not. I hope they're not poisoning the water.
They're poisoning the water. I hope not.
I hope not. So let's throw away fluoride because seed oils, I do have an opinion on.
Where did this opinion come from? The seed oil opinion has come from definitely a lot of fear-mongering food-based influencers, for sure, but people that I really do respect. Bobby Parrish, for example.
I don't know if you know Bobby, but Bobby, I really respect. He is the, he'll go into Costco, he'll tell you everything that's wrong with everything.
Fear-mongering for sure. Fear-mongering, no question.
But then you hear him talking about it. You then hear like a Dana White talking about it.
You then hear, what is that guy? The one that like got Dana White super cut. The Gary Brecka.
Gary Brecka, et cetera. Gary! We can do a whole episode on Gary! They're all talking about the same thing, which is that factually, seed oils are inflammatory.
Okay? Seed oils are inflammatory. That doesn't mean, and I agree with you, that we should be shouting from the rooftops that you need to only eat the most expensive oils, especially when most of the people that are consuming the information cannot choose to eat their fried chicken in avocado oil.
OK, like we have a society that still needs to eat. But these oils are inflammatory.
And I do think that the greater conversation is like you should just be eating less fried foods. But it does seem that if I'm baking a cake, Josh, that I would be better off using avocado oil than vegetable oil.
Would you agree? Sure. So that's it.
That's my opinion on seed oil. That oils are better.
Some oils are better for you than others. Some oils are cleaner for you than others.
Oils react differently when they're heated. There are ones that you should be frying and there are ones that you shouldn't.
You shouldn't be frying in olive oil because olive oil is only good for you when it's raw. So if you fry in olive oil, one, it's expensive, but two, you lose all of the nutrients of the olives.
Like the olive oil no longer means anything to you. That's my opinion on seed oils.
to quote your text to me exactly. No, don't.
I never remember what I say. Seed oils are inflammatory and poison.
They're poison. It is in the ricin cyanide family.
I'm sorry, I just added that. No, they are inflammatory and they can be poisonous to the body.
I have a lot to unpack.

Let's actually, let's figure this out though.

I don't know if they're more poisonous to the body than what you're eating.

That's fried though.

Like, I don't know if I need to blame the oil.

I don't know if I need to blame the fried chicken.

I want to blame something, Josh.

I want to blame something, Josh.

Did you see the Chick-fil-A?

There's 47 ingredients in their Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich. Of course there is.
How? That's how it's so good. And then we're making our way back to creatine.
Continue. I'm going to, I'm going to keep it.
I'm going to keep it short. Brevity is key.
I think everything has trade-offs, right? I was thinking about you and these things and I'm like, and to your point, the number one thing you could be doing for your health today that is indisputable is sweating five days a week. Like the biggest detriment to your health is that you are not raising your heartbeat five out of seven days of the week.
Like that will every study over and over, it has such wide ranging benefits to your life that will so completely outweigh any worries of fluoride or seed oil or what have you. That's fair.
And it's all weighing things out, right? There's been a big debate about statins as of recently, cholesterol lowering medication, because there are negatives. You get leg cramping, there can be some muscle wasting, it can eat some of your muscle.
But, you know, the studies that we have, and again, you know, you have so many of these carnivore diet people who are like raging out and telling you that having a 350 cholesterol score is healthy. It's like, listen, I'm not here to fight them, but more will be revealed.
But if you look at people like Dr. Peter Atiyah, who talks about like every study we have thus far, and I know we can go down the great big pharma, big medicine, who's funding the studies, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But living in a world that isn't completely dystopian, if we are to believe anything, there's a good chance that having lower than a 300 cholesterol score is probably better.

The truth is you want it to be under 200.

So I take a cholesterol-lowering medication because I think the benefits outweigh the negatives.

We don't know long-term what these GLP-1s will do.

We don't quite have that info. But we can all agree that for now, the benefits of lowering obesity far outweighs all the negatives that could come right and that's what i think about seed oil and fluoride yes seed oil is feeding a lot of people and who cannot afford to get really good oil and i think if they had the option for sure go with the good oil but i think eggplant is inflammatory nightshades are inflammatory so much of what we do so i would love to see that but we use a word like that and we think oh inflammation where's my advil but it's like on the grand scope of things what is really inflaming us absolutely i agree with everything that you said what except for the i could come take two i could orgasm take take some turmeric,osh that's what you need for inflammation that's what you need you don't need advil no need turmeric i call it to me exactly take a little to me i do i do advil bi-weekly so that's my truth and i'm not proud of it i want you to know that i haven't taken advil in a very long time.
Really? And I used to take it all the time. And I don't know why.
I'm just simply sharing that perhaps whatever was giving me a headache no longer is. I agree with everything that you said on seed oils.
I agree that the reason why people in general are using seed oils is to fear market and fear market against buying something of theirs.

That's what Gary Breckett does.

That's what all of these people do.

Don't buy this.

Buy my stuff.

I totally get that.

Totally get that.

I do think, though, you mentioned we do need to sort of trust, like, unless we just think

we're living in this dystopian.

I do.

I do.

I don't trust.

Maybe.

I don't trust.

I don't trust because there's too many aligned incentives for me not to trust. And I don't want to like, like we've spoken about this before.
We spoke about this with Luigi Hot Pants, whatever his name was. The one thing that Luigi was highlighting was that we have the most money and we have the worst health care and everybody's dying.
And we needed a medicine like Zempic to get people no longer fat. And it just, something's amiss, Josh.
Something's amiss. But to your point, right? Like, do you know who is the biggest purveyor or provider of nicotine alternatives like Nicorette or, you know, nicotine lozenges.
I would assume the same company that makes the nicotine. The same, Philip Morris, the people that make the cigs.
That makes sense, of course, because they want to capitalize on both ends of it. And it's just like Ozympic.
Yeah, like- They want the whole wheel, of course. The food makes us fat and sick and then the drugs make us better, we hope.
Like, you're right it's a bad system it's a very very bad system it's absolutely rough but to anybody because i know there are these people my parents have a friend oh my is this a big guy love him 600 pounds he's big yeah no what's his name roger i can't mention it john No, a real fatso's name is like Dan. We'll go with Dan.
We'll go with Dan. Let's think of fatso names.
This is a mean segment. Tubby.
Tubby. Bernard.
600-pound tubby. My dad will be like, yeah, you know, i've had some really great success with ozempic like i'm the lowest i've been i feel really good it's awesome why don't you try it he's like oh it's unproven i don't trust it and my dad just like said to me he's like he's gonna die of a heart attack god forbid but like the guy is huge like whatever studies you're worried about are not what you need to be worried about.
You need to lose 200 pounds as quickly as humanly possible. Even if it means taking a machete to your belly, like whatever you need to do to lose weight, that is the thing that's going to kill you.
Not the potential side effects of a drug that you don't know about, which by the way is also fear mongering because we do know the side effects. This isn't new.
It has been studied, you know, like, oh man, this has been riveting. Josh, can we go to creatine though for a second? Yeah.
Should I be taking creatine? Will creatine make me want to work out more? So creatine helps your cells to hold on to hydration, to fluid. And so the idea of it is, is that then instead of your muscles being sort of dehydrated and full of lactic acid, it's the idea of like, you almost have a little bit more of a pump.
So you recover a little bit quicker. I actually don't know if it helps with recovery, but the idea is you have like a five to 10% increase in output.
So you can work out a little harder. You can lift a little heavier.
And I've certainly seen it work when I was really pushing, but I'll do cycles of it. I'll do it for like three to six months, see how I feel.
And then I'll start to, you know, maybe taper off. But I think it will put weight on you.
Does it make you want to work out though? I don i don't think so i don't i don't okay i need to get back in the gym freaking our boy matt from the live method he texts me once a week hey ben you alive you alive you alive i'm alive matt i'm just i'm avoiding you matt it's as alive as one gets hiding burns It burns a lot of energy. But that's why he like might be the greatest fucking friend, personal trainer.
Like for somebody to follow up, follow up, follow up. He's eventually going to get me back.
If he never followed up, I never would go back. He's awesome.
Like clockwork. He's like, when are you coming? When are you coming? One other thing before we pivot.
I ordered something new, Josh. Okay it's coming today i want to get the exact name i want to get the exact name of what i ordered it's coming tonight at 10 p.m on amazon are you ready for this josh drum roll please i'm gonna add it to my morning rotation can't wait it is sea moss gel oh you're Done.
Give up. Just give oh my god i have ordered i have ordered true sea moss oh my god crafted irish sea if anyone has a pyramid scheme call ben because he seems to be all about anything that will take his money i will let you know how it works all i can say josh is i will be pairing it pairing it with my AG1, which I credit with just my absolutely, just my joie de vivre, my zest for life, my energy throughout the day.
And I'm thinking that CMOS gel, Josh, might give me that extra kick in the caboose. You know what will give a kick in your fucking caboose? Is listening to a young prophet, someone who has gone down in the history books a sage a philosopher of the ages his name is tom brady okay heard of him i've heard of him and you know what he says fuck your tired body but does he like sea moss gel i bet you he eats it he probably does he loves a supplement i i'm just saying i've heard this sea moss nutrients out the ass like 97 of them josh you your new rule needs to be not ingesting things that you think are going to make you no they're great you can't lose by taking in you need to lose i'm gonna find lose.
I'm going to find the perfect supplements. This is it, Josh.
I'm on my way to the perfect cocktail. And if it comes from the sea, I want in.
We don't know anything about our oceans. They're gorgeous.
They're perfect. We need more of them.
And that's why I'm getting my sea moss. And before you come on me, I'm sure in one week, I'm not coming on you at all.
So take that back. And I'm glad to hear that you've made a friend from Trinidad.
And now you're bullish on CMOS. Because I have a guy.
His name is Jeff Bezos. You ordered it from Amazon.
I'm going to keep you posted, Josh. I'm going to keep everybody posted on my irish witchcraft sea moss let's pineapple flavor oh man i hate the whole thing um what how can we because listen shout out the great matt sour what's his name sauerhoff yes i mean live method fantastic what a place i mean the schvvitz there, unbelievable.
You might not be a deadlift workout gym guy. And that's okay.
What can we find for you that is something sustainable that you could do five days a week? Can I tell you, like, when I was in that groove, the five months that I was deadlifting, I loved it. My problem is if I fall out for a week because I'm busy or whatever reason, I'm done until I can get back in.
Then once I'm in, I'm in a groove, but until I'm in the groove, I'm so out of the groove. I'm so out.
Like sure, I'll go to the gym. I'll go on the treadmill.
I'll walk in incline. I i'll do all that stuff i'm not doing nothing but i'm not doing anything for my for my muscles what about a walking pad at home and i mean i'm sure no no but i walk i walk a lot i get like you can look at my phone i get at least just regular walking without like a treadmill or something i get at least 10 000 steps every day i walk every day but every day.
But think about the difference that if you were, if there's a show you like to walk for an hour, watch for an hour. I mean, all I can imagine are the TikToks that Claudia is going to make from bed as you're watching Glee on your walking pad.
I can walk forever. I do walk forever.
I pace like crazy. I can walk miles and miles and miles and miles and miles on end.
I'm never tired. I'm not tired by walking.
I know, but adding an extra hour will affect you physically. But I'd rather add that extra hour to pumping.
But you're not pumping. See, I need to get back to pumping.
You're not pumping. pumping.
You know where you're pumping? At Yogurtland. I need to pump with you.
I need you to come on me. I follow this account for this girl who walked from the top of Manhattan to Battery Park.
So went up to like Dykeman Street and then went all the way down. And I think we should do that.
And one day it's 16 miles. We'll walk it.
We'll have incredible meals throughout. Are we walking it? If we're walking it, I'm in.
If we're running, jogging, I'm out. No, it's a whole day.
I love it. I have walked from 1st and 1st to 89th Street.
I did that once. I think that's my longest New York City walk.
Which is technically... That's 90 blocks.
90 blocks, so it's like four and a half, almost five miles. Yeah, it's a good walk.
Nice walk. I wasn't tired.
First of all, let's figure out the meals that we should do on our full day of walking. And it'll be guilt-free guilt-free guilt-free we're going from battery park we're going to start in battery park and we're going to go up i think we start up and go down that agreed 100 okay we're going to start up and go down we're going to end in battery park at night and in the morning josh we're going to have a delicious i'm going to make us egg and.
Okay. But we're going to make them on this gorgeous, fluffy hero bread.
Okay. That is no sugar.
We can't have sugar crashes early, Josh. We can't have sugar crashes early.
No sugar, high fiber. When was the last time you had hero bread? I had hero bread this morning.
That's the bread. I, you know, it's so funny.
I just had, they have these like Hawaiian buns now that I recently had. Gorgeous.
They're unbelievable. And when I tell you it's the texture, I've had all of these healthy breads as a bunch of your formerly fat, as a current fat, we look for the alternatives to the things that we love.
Right. Right.
And it's more often than not. I remember my mom used to buy me this there's like this seedless rye it like comes in this like plastic container it's almost spongy it's so hard it's like a brick it looks like it was smuggled in in 1939 from the warsaw ghettos you know they're like we got bread it's so dang like schmool i'd I'd rather die.
You know? I don't want it got bread. It's so dense.

You're like, shmuel, I'd rather die. I don't want it.
I don't want any of your bread. I just want something, though, that is low sugar, high fiber, good consistency, versatile, Hawaiian buns, croissants, wraps.
I'm obsessed with hero bread. Obsessed.
Their stuff is unbelievable. I also, just before we get off the hero kick, I make my son French toast on the weekends.
And like, if you really, because I think the knee jerk is to be like, oh, what an indulgence. Wow, it's in the pancake family.
It actually isn't. So I think you need to rethink.
If you make it with hero bread, what are we eating? We're eating good bread, good macros, plenty of protein, low carb, right?

Then we're doing, what are we having?

A little bit of egg, a little bit of cream, keto friendly.

And we're frying it up with like maybe a little avocado oil, maybe a little, you know, butter

if you're indulging a bit.

Suddenly it's like actually not bad. And it's because of the bread.
It's because of the hero bread. Yeah.
If you make French toast with a big challah, then you're in trouble. Okay, that's big.
But the hero bread, it allows, it's the perfect middle ground. And to tell you, you know who loves hero bread? Claudia loves hero bread.
She's the pickiest eater in the world. She eats a hero bread.

They're white bread with peanut butter and jelly.

She loves the same way that she likes regular white bread.

So if that's not a testament, I don't know what else is.

Before we move on, I'm just, I know I'm a little hero bread crazy right now.

So I just would like to mention young Benjamin.

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And it was delish with only four grams of net carbs. Go to hero.co and use code good guys at checkout for 10% off that's hero.co use code good guys at checkout for 10% off who doesn't love a little savings and folks comment below if you have ideas for where you should stop on our journey let us know we crowdsource we're open oh my god can we get to a a story before I get a hard on?

Yeah. Give me the story.
Give it to me. Oh, my gosh.
Well, you know, the Golden Globes just passed. And inside the $1 million Golden Globes 2025 gift bag, a $500,000 vacation, a $40,000 facelift and more.
So they're reporting in this, okay, guests could receive a $40,000 private flight and stay to see the Northern Lights in Finland. The goodies were contained in an Atlas bespoke weekender bag with suede details.
Some stars got a $60,000 yacht charter exploring Indonesia.

A five-night stay at the Ritz-Carlton Grand Cayman valued at $55,000.

Personalized sessions from Forward Space valued to be worth $15,000 were in the bag.

Not bad.

You know what I love, Josh?

What?

I love the headline, valued $500,000. You know what it costs all of these places zilch nothing right nothing nothing it's the biggest it's genius it's genius the ritz carlton valued at 55 000 yeah there are blackout dates you're gonna come and you're gonna get the presidential suite when nobody else wanted it that's right that's right and that's it that's it and they now they get Cameron

Diaz in their room it's genius Josh it's genius bartered gifts are genius I'm a big fan of the Ritz-Carlton and I don't stay there often because your boy is tight tight tight tight tight I mean if you think the Ritz-Carlton's nice you should see a Marriott Courtyard in Tallahassee but I remember once I was sitting at the Ritz Carlton in Boston and my wife and I were there and I guess they figured out that I was coming because when we got there this what a touch they have like a little bit of food and like you know here's some fruit and maybe some alcohol which was very nice which you know hotels will do sometimes They had a picture of my wife and I in a picture frame near the bed. Yeah.
Yeah. Some of these hotels do this.
No, it's beautiful. Wow.
I felt like Brian Kelly. I felt like the points guy.
It's lovely. It's absolutely lovely.
I saw Brian last night. You saw him for the first time in months.
When does his book come out? Is it out? His book is coming out around when this podcast episode will probably come out. I think it's January 30th is when his book comes out.
And it is, it is a great book. He is just the best.
And he actually took us, not to pivot into our best fight of the week, but he took us last night, Josh. It's called Shame Our Go.
When you come here, we must shame our go. We must, okay? This place, first of all, all the food, John George.
The food was unbelievable. Second, it's a new members club.
But when you walk in, I'm telling you, you don't need any kinds of drugs, alcohol, whatever, to feel like you are just ready to groove. The decor, the lighting, everything.
You are just, it's, you are set. The most beautiful place I've ever seen.
The food was unbelievable. I'm just going to mention one dish, one dish only.
Josh, they had a tuna pizza. And I know you've heard of a tuna pizza before.
Olivia, this tuna pizza, this sounds good to you? I'm not a big tuna girl, but I do. What the fuck? We have a tuna in the state.
We have an animal in the state let me finish one of the best pizzas I've ever had was I think it was like a salmon pizza with like chive so it was like a similar kind of thing okay Ben I see your facial expression don't listen to Ben It's like saying that you don't like people. No, you don't like some people.
You can't not like all tuna. That's fair.
That's fair. Perhaps I haven't enjoyed the tuna that I've had.
Josh, take Olivia for a nice real sushi grade tuna experience. Sure, the canned tuna might not be for you.
We've been programmed after years in the schettle to like this canned fish that is truly probably disgusting. Oh, yeah.
It can sit through wars. We like it because you literally throw it in the cupboard and you can eat fish three years later.
That's not for everyone, but this fresh bluefin toro belly at the hands of a Japanese artist with his long, beautiful. Yes.
But but let me ask you, Olivia. And I don't even mean to remotely intimate that you might have, you know, a basic leaning.
You don't like this spicy tuna crispy rice. This is not for you.
I this is my. This is my problem, gentlemen.
I have an issue with, I take issue with spices. Not spices, spicy.
Spicy. And so, no, I haven't had a spicy tuna crispy rice.
I love a crispy rice. I do love sushi.
I love like a crab or a salmon. I do have a bit more of a tempered palate, I suppose.
I know, I know. I'm trying my

best out here. I am experimenting more though lately.
So wasabi, just so we're on the same page, wasabi is not spicy. Wasabi is nasally.
Wasabi is not like back of the throat. It's, it's like horseradish.
Do you like horseradish? No, of course she doesn't like horseradish. I mean, it's not spicy.

It's not spicy.

It's amazing.

Have you ever had a Carolina Reaper? And do you like it? It's not. Would you describe horseradish as spicy? It's not like a chili.
It's different. Wasabi too.
It's spicy. I don't think so.
Should we get to a SpeakPipe? Yeah. All right.
If you want to ask us a message leave us a good hi go to speakpipe.com slash good guys and we will answer your question if you want advice keep it brief brevity is key let's hear from i don't know josh and ben fellow moron here love you guys let me keep this quick this This guy I'm seeing, he's 29, Jewish,

no sisters. I actually like him.

I never like anyone. He

thinks that babies are ready between

six and seven months. Like, has

zero idea about the whole nine-month

thing. He's great in a

lot of ways. Like, he owns two apartments.

He could get a mortgage, but

he doesn't know this. I'm scared, and I need

your guys' take. Okay, love you so much.

Bye. That's so

funny. I don't even understand

I'm going to go ahead and get it. he could get a mortgage but like he doesn't know this i'm scared and i need your guys's take okay love you so much bye that's so funny i don't even understand what do you mean ready between six and seven months it just sounds like he's been dealt bad information and also did he like is he just like rich and dumb like did his did his parents buy those apartments or like is he successful and dumb.
This is important to know. I would say, though, that he has two apartments.
You could do worse. Totally.
Yeah, like, whatever. Like, I don't know what you're looking for, but it sounds like you found something good.
What do you want, a guy who's got student debt to Vassar? Huh? Go get this guy with the two condos. And all you got to do is tell him, like, correct him.
Like, hey, honey, actually, the term of birth is, by the way, it's really not nine months. I don't get it, okay? It's 10.
It's 10. Why are we with, what's with this nine? Okay.
Right? Fine.

This is Meshuggah.

It's Meshuggah. This is Fakakta.

This is Fakakta.

It's, it's Ig-a-bloggin.

It's nuts.

It's Meshuggah.

It's Meshuggah.

Yes.

I think we need a new, we need a new segment called, what are you, Meshuggah. It's Meshuggah.
Yes. I think we need a new segment called, what are you, Meshuggah?

What are you, Meshuggah?

Yeah, look, I think this woman needs to make her peace with the idea of you're dating an idiot.

But here's the good news.

That's fine.

Because even if he was a scholar genius and i've thought about this before find yourself a woman who is so loyal and down for you and also thinks you're a fucking idiot that's my wife like right that's isn't that claudia like yes yes my wife loves me is so down for me is so behind me 100 my biggest fan she also thinks i am the dumbest person alive ever and you know what that's cool with me so just get there early get it get past the dating phase you're with an idiot and he's your idiot i would say that once a a day, Claudia will say, you didn't know that. Right.
How didn't you know that? Like, no, I'm sorry that I don't know every single convicted killer over the last 60 years and their murder cases. Like my wife is such a sponge for knowledge.
She knows something about everything. So yeah, at least once a day, I don't know something that she thought that I knew.

And yes, he's your idiot.

That's exactly right, Josh.

And if he was smart, he'd leave you.

Listen, I am sure that whoever was dating Albert Einstein,

and I heard he was a bit of a stick man,

eventually went, Al, why is the milk in the cupboard?

You know, it goes in the fridge, Al.

Oh, oh, this isn't relativity. You know, the milk in the cupboard.
You know what goes in the fridge, Al? Oh, this isn't relativity! You know? The milk's expired! Al. Al.
Allie boy. Alright, next speak pipe from...
I don't know. Hey, good guy, so I have a question about...
Can you pause for a second? Why do all of our speak pipes

always sound like they're like

captive and like they like can't talk?

They're like... It's like a

release video. Like trying

to call home. Hi good

guys, I don't want anybody to hear me.

Exactly. Hi good guys, I only have

one minute. I'm about to be taken to a new home.
I only have one minute I'm about to be taken to a new home I only have one minute but it's by my boyfriend good guys I don't have much time they're also all addicted to cigarettes I'm good guys I'm Lorraine oh my god Olivia be careful who's editing this episode don't give it to a new Intern who went to a liberal arts College in New England Cause we are fucked We are fucked, fucked, fucked Oh my good guys Alright now bring on the The smoker in captivity Bring her. Question about wedding gifts.
As I am recently married and had three couples not give gifts at our recent wedding. One couple did send a gift and a card later on.
It was very apologetic that they had forgot the day of. Perfectly fine.

The other two couples just gave no gift. One of the two couples is a married couple that got

married about a year before my husband and I. We gave them a gift.
We know that they cashed the

check. And then they gave us a empty card in return.
An empty, I mean, no gift. It had a nice

message. And I know that person, I gave her a wedding shower gift.
She's recently had a baby, gave her a baby shower gift. She did give me a wedding shower gift that was on par with what most of my other friends gave.
So that's all fine and dandy, but no wedding gift from her and her husband. And then the other is another couple who gave no card and no gift, which I was just shocked at.
So I guess two parts. What do you think about those two situations of like receiving no gift and not holding resentment? And then what do you think a couple should be giving as a gift these days for a wedding? Because I was also kind of surprised at how much less people were giving compared to what I and my husband would give.
Wow. Okay.
First of all, you need richer friends. We'll call a spade a spade.
But no card, let me know what you think of this, Josh. No card, no gift is far better than card, no gift.
Or let me rephrase. No card, no check is far better than card, no.
Or let me rephrase, no card no check is far better than card no check. I think giving somebody an envelope with a card with nothing in it, when you went to their wedding or when they went to your wedding and gave you a check that you cashed, that is no bueno.
Right. No bueno.
That's right. No, no.
I would much rather have seen no card no check because the then you can plead ignorance if you're ever approached i never got a gift oh my god it got lost in the mail it didn't get lost in the mail we know this was intentional and this was no good right that's it i think look and i think this will get us of anyone. And I mean this, anyone who is struggling financially, I've had people do this where you have to swallow your pride and be honest with people when you're going to their wedding or going to like an event, which expects a gift and say, listen, I love you.
I want to come. I just want to be honest with you.
Like I'm having, I'm a little tight right now. Like, and so, you know, I know how expensive a seat is at a wedding.
And so if, if that's a deal, like that person, if they're not crappy, people will feel so bad and say, of course, come, are you kidding me? But you have to have that conversation because otherwise you get this where people feel snubbed and they don't understand why a thousand percent. And I was going to say in the beginning, before I heard this whole thing, you don't ever give to receive, right? Right.
But when you do go to somebody's wedding, once the first person, it is what it is. Once somebody has given you something, the only course is to give it back to them.
That's it. Like you came to my wedding, gave me 250.
I go to your wedding. I give it back to you.
It's a trade. That's it.
Like that is normal circumstances. Now, if between receiving my 250 and coming to your wedding, I went through hardships, lost my job, all this stuff, blah, blah, blah.
Then yes, I completely agree with you. to you and explaining that is the right thing to do.
Absolutely. But otherwise you said, what should you give what you received? And if you're going first, expect to receive exactly what you give first, meaning you should, you should give nicely because you want to receive nicely, or you should give very little.
It all ends up in the wash anyways. Right.
I don't knowussian even as i'm talking about it it's like what the i'm giving you 250 to give it back to me why'd we give it at all it's silly but the i totally agree with you on that and the russian rule is pay for your seat so eyeball it if it's a if it's a incredibly opulent wild wedding assume that seat is three to 500 bucks a person. So it's going to, it's going to cost you.
And if it's a

regular. it.
If it's a, if it's a incredibly opulent wild wedding, assume that seat is three to 500 bucks a person. So it's gonna, it's gonna cost you.
And if it's a regular, you know, whatever wedding, then maybe a hundred to two 50 a person. I like pay for your seat, but then I start to think like, if you're really at that type of a wedding where it's okay, you think it's 500 a seat or 600 seat or whatever, then they don't need your money.
That's true. I agree.
And like, maybe that money meant a lot more. You have to give for sure.
Of course. I just don't know.
Like when somebody is really rich, they don't need cash. Like what, what else can you give them? I'm not telling you to make something at home, but like maybe that's when like a registry gift comes in handy or like, that's when like, I don't know.
And if at cheap out always check their registry first see if there was like two things the totaled 80 that they put on there because if they put it on there and you got them something from what they put on that's fine they put it on there or here's a good one here's a good one find out where they're going for their honeymoon send them champagne to the room love it beautiful love beautiful they'll 100 credit

the hotel and you'll lose all you'll lose the credit but that's fine should we get to what are you nuts yes um what are you nuts people places and things gripes of the humanity if you don't know that what are you nuts what are you nuts my what are you nuts moment of the week is It's something I'm going to call Christmas tree Gentile privilege.

Okay.

Let me just tell you, please, if the Jews were taking Hanukkah bushes after Hanukkah and throwing them out the front door, leaving them on the street saying this should be taken away now. Oh my God, the cabal against Jews and their Hanukkah bushes everywhere.
I'm walking these streets in January. There's Christmas trees everywhere.
People just stole them out and they say they'll get taken eventually. What are you, nuts? Figure out a place to put the Christmas tree.
I didn't know that there were trees left in California. This is stunning to me.
Ooh, sorry. My what are you nuts moment, I'll let you pick.
Ripped jeans or women doormen? You pick. I'll go with ripped jeans for not canceled for 2000.
Okay, cool. Women doormen, okay? Here is, here's the issue, Josh.
Okay. Look, here's the issue.
What do you expect from a doorman to protect woman or man to protect you? That's it. Right.
You just want somebody that's there to protect you. Right.
And a woman can certainly protect me. No question.
A man can certainly protect me. No question.
But what you're looking for in a doorman is protection. Now, Josh, let's say that said doorman started wearing a scarf.
Would you feel protected if your doorman was wearing a cashmere scarf? It's very cold out. The cashmere scarf wrapped around, draped alongside.
Would you still feel protected? Not only do I feel protected, I feel like I'm in a classy building. I don't.
It's nuts. What are you nuts? Doormen shouldn't be wearing scarves.
I'm sorry. There's something about the scarf.
I'm looking at you. You're too cozy.
You're thinking about like being by a hot fire. You're ready to get all cozy.
No, no, sorry. That's it.
I'm not going to feel protected. Somebody's going to come in with a gun.
You're going to end up choking on your scarf. I'm out.
Nuts. The idea that a doorman from Queens, they're all from Queens.

For sure.

Is going to step in between you and a gunman and your rich co-op neighbors.

Never going to happen.

The only thing they're stepping in front of is an Amazon package.

You don't know where I live.

I'm on 125th and Malcolm X. Hilarious.
You don't know. I didn't know they renamed Fifth Avenue.
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