Guys: Episode 129 - Playing Card Guys With Clare O'Kane

Shuffle up and deal.

Welcome to Guys a Podcast about Guys.

I'm Brian, and you might think we're talking about poker because I said shuffle up and deal, which was a poker thing in the late, early 2000s when everybody was playing poker.

Anyway,

I'm Gambit.

I'm Brian.

This is playing card guys.

Hi, Chris.

Hey, how's it going?

Yeah, I got really into poker for a while.

I used to watch Daniel and the Grand U and all of the different guys on TV.

This isn't about poker.

I know, but you brought it up initially, so it's hard for me.

Like, you were talking about Shuffle Up and Deal.

Do you remember that?

There was like a thousand poker shows.

Celebrity poker showdown.

I was like, Celebrity Poker Showdown.

Yeah, that was huge when the celebrities got involved.

Ben Affleck was a really good player, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, right, whatever.

Anyway, we have our guest.

We're not talking about poker.

If you bring up poker again, I'm docking your pay because this is about playing cards.

They don't play the games.

These aren't about, this isn't about playing fucking game.

Okay, but it's about having cards.

But don't they play games with the cards?

Are you fucking crazy?

Yeah, but I these cards can cost like upwards of a lot of money.

We're going to talk about that later.

Okay.

But our guest this week is Claire O'Kane.

Hi, Claire.

Hi, thanks for having me.

So just

cards.

Playing cards.

Don't cards.

We're not talking about any games.

Play cards.

We're not talking about games.

This is confusing to me because, of course, and I think probably like most of the listeners,

you would use your playing cards.

Traditionally used for playing card games, right?

No.

It's innate.

Yeah.

Right.

But you leave them sealed and you display them in your house.

Oh, they don't even open the playing cards, sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't.

Okay, interesting.

There's some very strange cards.

There is this one kind of I learned about this card.

So, this episode was really hard to prep because

I started it at one point, and then I was like, I'm never going to be able to find enough stuff for this.

And then I found a forum and I was like, I found enough stuff for this, right?

And

what I found is that, like,

no,

yes, just like we talked about another thing recently where they said, oh, you don't open it.

That's fucked up.

That's bullshit.

Like, you're supposed to open this thing.

But there are guys who have so many decks of cards.

Like, why would you open them?

And then there's this insanely expensive deck of cards.

This will blow your mind.

There's this, well, not that something's insanely expensive, but like, there's this really expensive deck of cards where it's requested that if you buy them, you don't take a picture of them so nobody can see them on the internet.

Because that kind of like that's part of the whole allure of them is that nobody knows what each of the cards looks like.

So you're kind of like opening them to find that out.

Now, how's that worked out?

Everybody's listening, I'm guessing?

I didn't see them.

Oh, wow.

Because I don't know that to me, I feel like that's a classic thing that people would be aggressively trying to put.

Anytime someone says, don't do this on the internet, everybody pretty much does it, right?

Yeah, or at least sell a picture of it.

Yeah, sell it.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly, Claire.

Try to make a little bit of money off it.

Like, hey, I know you can't afford the real deck, but I'll sell you a photo of one of the cards for $5.

Monetize the mystery.

Yeah.

Right.

Here's the thing about it, guys.

You might think that.

If you say you're going to post those pictures of those fucking cards in R slash playing cards, you're fucking done.

Well, yeah, you've got to go to the dark web.

You got to go to the dark web for that, obviously, to the tour.

You got to open your tour browser and you got to sell it up.

Yeah, there can't be any admin when you're selling that shit.

That's got to be black market for sure.

They were like, come on, man.

I saw a few of them get really angry.

There was another one.

So, cards are printed on these huge pieces of paper.

And I'm not really 100% sure how they get so thick.

Like, because I watched this guy, right?

This guy makes all these big pieces of paper.

He makes these limited edition edition cards and he puts them on the window of his playing card studio.

Can you explain to me?

Now, I'm not sure I'm totally on it.

You're saying that, like, initially it's a big sheet that then gets cut into all the cards.

Is that what you're saying?

Yes, but it doesn't.

And it feels

so.

I watched the guy just rip a bunch of them up, and they were so mad at the guy because it's a guy that's famous for designing these really good playing card decks.

And he stuck them on the window of his building so you could look in from outside and watch him rip them off the wall.

And people are like, come on, man.

That's too far.

Like, got real mad at the guy.

How do you get a hold of the just the sheet?

You have to know somebody like at the like, they don't sell those.

Okay, he makes them himself.

So there's no way, like, if I was an avid collector of playing cards, I couldn't get like a pre-cut sheet of my favorite card.

Oh, you could.

Chris's wheels are spinning now.

He's like, I could rip up cards in front of people.

No, no, I, I, I just, listen, I'm a collector.

You know, I'm into collecting things.

I do, I like collecting sports cards and stuff, so I'm into that.

I don't know that

playing cards would be something I would get into, but I was just thinking, you know, like, if they're collecting things, that's what they start thinking of.

What's the next step we can get to?

I want to get to them before they get torn up, before they get cut.

I'm a former collector.

Claire, do you collect anything?

I collect t-shirts.

I collect like to wear or

sometimes to wear, but sometimes just to have.

Sometimes it's the collecting, the collecting mindset of like, I am the only one who has this in North America or whatever.

Yeah, even though no one else gives a shit.

Yeah, yeah.

Except for maybe one guy who's got a big sheet of cards who you can't get cooked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I understand that feeling as a collector, definitely, that there's that, like, just that feeling of, and Brian has it, by the way.

No, I don't.

I recovered.

I'm done.

No, but you just the idea of you wanting to have something that nobody else has.

Oh, no, no.

That's not collecting, though.

That's just wanting to have stuff that other people don't have.

But yeah, I'm just saying you have to have.

No, it's not even don't.

It's more can't.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like I, I, like, when I get a luxury box seat, oh, you just like sports game.

I'm just like, well, but other people can't sit here.

And that's what makes me feel good.

So it's really the worst thing you can think of.

It's really like the worst thing is that like you are feeling above like working class people is what you're saying.

not necessarily above because i consider my sort of sort of more of a lunch pail kind of guy and of course very working class guy myself of course don't make nearly the money the money that you do brian but but yeah that i mean just the idea i mean this probably a lot of listeners are working class but you're i'm not saying it's because of that i'm saying that if i go to an event yeah right

like i said about the the the baseball games where i get to sit in the office chair it's wonderful it's funny because

I just want to clarify too.

It's like the shit that he does is like, he's not, he doesn't know how to be an actual rich guy.

Even if he got millions of dollars, he would never understand what to actually spend his money on.

So he's like getting the dumbest shit.

He's like, I'm going to get the best fucking seats at the minor league baseball game, you know?

And it's like, it's never like an actual, like, it's never an actual impressive thing.

And he was like, I'm going to buy all this Lego and stuff like that.

So I don't have Legos anymore.

Don't start that.

That's, I stopped collecting.

I stopped collecting.

Claire, he had a see before, if you had to come on the podcast before, his whole back behind him was all just like a big Lego town.

He was like genuinely obsessed with it.

But Brian, you just got a new Lego.

For free.

Yes, but as we discussed, the reason it was free is because you accumulated so many Lego points from buying other Lego that you were able to buy a very expensive piece of Lego for free.

So yeah, not really free, but yeah.

There's a table right next to me, Claire.

It's on wheels.

I'm going to be able to just roll it out behind me and watch wrestling and build Legos every Wednesday.

So that's exciting for me.

That's exciting.

That's really fun.

That's what he likes to do more than anything: build Legos and watch wrestling.

At the same time, too.

So I went to R slash Playing Card.

Claire, are you impressed by that?

It's at the same time.

I just can't believe you have the time.

Oh, it's only two hours.

Are you?

By the way, are you kidding?

All he has is time.

I don't have any time to do it.

He doesn't have anything to do.

He lives, he lives.

His wife goes to work.

So she's like gone all day.

He's got literally, his daughter is at university, so she's not around.

So he just has nothing to do all day.

He walks around constantly.

I'm out there doing my flights and stuff like that.

So anyway, I brought up.

These flights of stairs, by the way, Claire.

He's not flying around.

He's not flying.

You're doing your flights.

Yeah, he calls him doing his flights.

You're getting your flights in.

He used to do steps.

He used to do steps, but then that wasn't good enough for him because he would do.

I'm sorry.

I'm really begging him up here.

He would do like 35,000 steps a day.

I'm not joking.

55, but yeah, 35, 55, and stuff.

Like insane numbers.

He walked around all day long, the entire city.

But then that became boring to him.

So he's now, yeah, he's going up now.

Yeah, you know, you used to collect steps.

Now you're collecting flights.

Yeah, you're collecting.

And how many guys?

Brian, how many did you are you doing?

Are you managing to do more now?

Like, are you finding that?

I finally got 300

and two.

That was my record.

That was on Friday.

Wow.

Anyway, so I posted this picture.

This is day 10 of card collecting for this guy.

And this is one, two, three, four.

That's eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.

So he has 13 sets.

These orbit sets are not cheap.

Now, not as expensive as you think they are.

Okay.

Well, I don't even, I have no idea.

So I don't know.

They're like 16 bucks.

Some of the orbit ones are 30.

Why aren't they rare?

Why are they good?

Who gives a shit?

Yeah, who gives a shit?

Why would somebody pay?

Well, I think we're going to find out through this whole episode why people would pay money for it.

It's nothing to do with the quality of the cards.

It's like, it's the collecting side of it.

And it's like, in collecting, it's just about creating buzz for stuff.

And I guess there's some concept of exclusivity, maybe, like we talked about.

By the way, he had bicycle cards, though.

Your orbits.

Well, bicycle are the best cards you can buy.

But bicycle are like, but those are just like, those are.

Right.

Those are for cardists, and we'll get to that later.

So I got the orbit page up.

You can get orbit cards for 10 to 12 to 125.

They got a, you know, an autograph six-pack box for $125.

Whose autograph is it?

Not really.

The boy on the box.

Squints in the autograph?

It's Squints or Papa Orbit, it says.

So that we might

be able to get an autograph from Papa Orbit.

Yeah, there's some child child on the front with some glass sunglasses on and then an autograph, but I'm not sure.

Oh, is it the guy from Sandlot?

I don't know.

Yeah, Squints.

Squints is the one who

did mouth-to-mouth with the lifeguard.

Oh, yep, it is.

It is.

That's what it is.

So it's the character Squints.

Did they make him sign Squints or did they let him sign his real name?

Well, it started playing music.

Yeah, I mean, this is.

Okay, so

they have the character from Sandlot

signed.

He's an adult now, right?

I'm guessing.

No, he's still a kid.

Well, he died as a child, and they had him do it before he died.

That's not a funny thing to joke about.

No, I'm serious.

Don't joke about that.

Squints is still alive, right?

Don't even joke about that.

Okay, so anyway, this guy's like, orbit V2s are a big pool for day 10.

Well done.

Hope your wife is a nice person.

Okay, so this is a big issue a lot of people have, a lot of guys have: is that they're just off there, they're out there trying to have a good time, trying to collect their cards or whatever, and then their wife will come in there and say, Hey, why are you spending all of the family's money on this stupid thing?

And then it's like, oh my god, are you ever going to quit?

So we hear a lot of that, Claire, like all the time.

Yeah, I'm sure.

This guy goes, yeah, she just might get a little mad finding out how much these cards cost.

So then I looked at the cards, $285.

$285?

$285.

So, I mean, it depends.

Again, it depends on your financial situation.

Maybe that could be a thing where you're, hey, you're able to easily afford that and then whatever.

But I don't know, man.

If you're like, if that's like a cost that you could be spending on something else, I think.

you could get mad as a partner if they spent $285 on playing cards.

Well,

what about if you did this?

This guy gives some advice.

Get your wife a Louis Vuitton bag.

It worked for me.

She loves that shit.

If I know your wife and I do.

She loves that shit.

I know her because she's a wife and a woman.

And so she loves Louis Vuitton.

So it just, honestly, that sounds like...

So

are you a rich guy?

Because that's really expensive, right?

I don't think everyone could just do that.

I don't think they know.

I'll say this.

When the guys say, get your wife a Louis Vuitton bag they don't know how much at all they it could be it could be 285 it could be 10 million dollars they have no idea they're just saying like hey wives love these bags yeah how much is a louis vuitton bag i like i don't know but i remember back when i was two grand oh yeah so like thousands of dollars yeah so so then that's like that should get you a lot of decks of playing cards and if you're getting our louis vuitton bag costs you 2800 you should be able to get a number of orbits packs for that right well this guy also because of the the picture, he goes, I see a glimpse of your DVD collection, too.

I was just packing lots of mines in paper boxes recently.

It kind of sucks when you think about the idea of collecting.

At one point, I was all into collecting DVDs.

Now I look at them and question myself about that.

So

the cards might become a problem.

The unfortunate aspect of collecting that at some point it does potentially just become hoarding.

And then when you don't care about the stuff anymore, you don't see value in it, then you still have it.

Yeah, that is that's an issue for sure.

This also brings up sort of the antiquated idea, I think antiquated, of having shared bank accounts with your partner, where it's like,

we're all getting crazier and it's too easy to spend money.

It's like so easy to even just like accidentally spend money that we should all just be having our own separate bank accounts.

That's why I have my own bank account and savings account for my broke ass husband because I like to spend money on dumb shit and I don't want him getting mad at me because he still gets mad at me anyway, even though it's not his money.

He goes, do you need that

$200 Willie Nelson t-shirt?

And I go, yes.

I mean, Willie Nelson is a living legend, obviously.

And

to question a Willie Nelson shirt seems a bit ridiculous.

I agree.

Yeah, it's like it's good to have that separation so then they can't see.

mean, I don't, I guess I share Ariel and I share, share, you know, a bank essentially, but she doesn't really,

you know, I'll make a dumb purchase every now and then, but I'm not like Brian.

I'm pretty, we're saving and doing a decent job of saving.

So I think she won't really.

Yeah, we haven't.

Yeah, so

your kid again is an adult, but I know, but, but yeah, I think sometimes she will say, like, which is a normal thing, she'll say, like, you know, I'm not sure that you need that

because it costs a lot of money.

And it's like, you know, but she'll never say, don't get it.

She'll never be like, don't get that.

She'll like, ask, like, do you think or whatever?

And we'll have a conversation about it.

But generally, I don't want to, I don't want to brag, but generally, if I want to get it, I get it.

So I have an obsessive.

My obsessive personality means that I check the bank account all the time.

Check it like a hundred fucking times a day.

So my wife is like, I don't need to look at it.

He's fucking looking at it a hundred times a day.

So she never looked at so you're like looking at it regularly like honestly more than once in a day not as much anymore but i did for a long time yes well i understand like uh when you were like really like i i was like that too when i when i wasn't sure if i had enough money to do anything ever i would regularly check in just to make sure i was not going to get an insufficient funds purchase somewhere this guy goes yep my argument has consistently been that i spend about the same amount of money on my hobbies no matter what they are so if i didn't buy playing cards, it'd be something else.

Yeah, well, and it could be, well, maybe it would be alcohol then.

And would that be better, honey?

Would it be better if I was an alcoholic?

What if it was cocaine?

What if it was cocaine that I was spending my money on?

What if it was knives that I was spending on and I was throwing the knives at people, honey?

Would that not be worse?

Yeah, that's a good point, he's making

a lot of these guys say that.

So

we do like to figure this out.

I remember the episode we did.

We did action figure guy.

Yes.

And I think that was with Jeremy Kapluit, right?

Yes.

We did action figure guys and a lot of guys were arguing.

That was actually extra weird because a lot of adults were like, do you open yours?

And it's like, well, I like to open them to play with them.

And I was like, well, you're 40 years old.

Well, they didn't really, some of them would play with them, but what was the big thing that they did?

They would pose them.

Yeah.

Right?

They would pose them in different like poses or whatever, like action poses, and then have them set up, which I guess it's like, it kind of makes sense sense because it's just like, hey, I'm collecting them and I'm going to display them in this pose versus in a box, which is like, looks uglier to me.

I just want to have it displayed as the actual figure.

So it's not that, it's not that ridiculous to pose action figures as an adult, Brian.

It's why I got rid of the Legos

is because like,

I was building them

and then I was like, I don't give a shit about these anymore.

Like, I never...

I never touched a Lego after I built it.

Not one time.

You're a builder.

You're a classic builder.

Exactly.

And then I'm like, well, we're moving.

I'm getting rid of all of them.

Now

the plan is buy them, build them, give them away.

You know, that's my new plan.

So anyway, on unitedcardists.com, they said, do you open your decks?

Guy goes, do you open your decks?

Hi, all.

Very new to collecting and just wondered if you open your decks.

Understand there's value loss, but it also seems anything I ever see for sale is new and unopened.

I really would like to appreciate the art of these, but have struggled so far to open any I have purchased.

I suppose the other option is to double my investment and always keep one sealed.

Just curious what others do.

So there is that.

Yeah, you could obviously just buy your sealed pack and then your unopened.

So Zebby, instead of 285,

you know, you could, if you wanted to drop like 600 bucks or whatever, then yeah, you could just get an extra pack.

That's smart.

I mean, buying two.

Even then, though, listen, as far as things we've covered, these playing cards are 90% of the time, they're maybe 30 bucks at the most.

Yeah, there's not a lot of super expensive ones, right?

Because I think they are just pieces of paper or whatever, right?

That are like mass-produced pieces of paper that are printed on, so it's kind of hard to justify,

unless there are any, there are no handmade ones.

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff out there that's there's a lot of stuff out there that you can get into like

really uh ornate gold, like uh

designs and stuff.

Not a ton of those, but like, it's a good idea.

You know what I would collect?

I would collect cards, playing cards, like individual ones that were found at like

historical events or something.

Like, if someone found this ace at

Gettysburg or whatever.

Oh, man.

Like, actually,

meaningful cards and things.

Like, this is from the Old West, from like a famous card game or whatever.

I mean, honestly, all the biggest card collectors have I've already probably snagged all of those though.

You know, there's a guy at this point.

There's a guy and I love him with all my heart.

I don't know why I like this guy so much, but he comes into the subreddit every once in a while.

I was like, yeah, I got this 1901 deck for $3,000.

Fuck.

And like he just collects like old decks.

Yeah.

Like Buffalo Bill played with this deck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's a classic thing, though.

It's like probably a lie, too, but it's like, whatever.

Is it even a lie?

If you believe it enough and it doesn't hurt anybody, is it even a lie at that point?

So, but yeah, there's all those classic, like, it's like the genealogy guy, you know, they're always when you get that far back, you can just start lying about shit.

I'm related to a warrior.

I'm related to great warriors.

It's yeah, nobody can really figure it out.

No one's going to really look into it, so you can just make, make up lies about that.

This guy goes, when I started collecting, I opened one of each.

Once I got over a hundred open, I've kept most, but not all sealed.

So he has 100 open packs.

Now he's just leaving them.

I mean, now that I'm thinking of it, like when you were talking about it, it kind of does.

If you're a full-on collector, it makes sense to keep them.

You know, you have your playing pack or maybe a couple of playing packs that you use if you need to have a card game, and then the rest of them, why open them?

You're just going to have extra packs if you already have a.

But they're not playing with anybody.

There are no other people around in this scenario.

You've never played Solitaire before, Claire?

I'm thinking these card collectors are playing a lot of Solitaire.

I'm thinking.

I just got my ass handed to me.

Yeah, sorry.

Somebody forgot about Solitaire.

Yeah, that Brian.

So on some of these decks, though, they have each card is going to have like a special design on it or something.

Is that the idea?

What I've figured is

what I have found, and I don't know if I'm right, and we're going to read some reviews of some Theory 11 cards, which is like the big fancy card house now.

And And, like, from what I can figure, it's all basically just the same thing, except for the face cards and the Joker.

And then something on the back of the card.

But

still, that's a good thing.

We're not going to make an eight of Iron Man.

No, no, I understand that, but is it going to have like a different sort of design on it, like a cool, like something on the eight of clubs where it like, you know, like something unique?

Not usually.

Because literally any goal.

Yeah, the goal is for the eight of clubs to look like an eight of club.

Okay.

So then, then, yeah i would just leave it closed if that's the case i mean it's if you see the the the the top of it that's that's visible to you because it's it's probably on the top of on like the package right like what the design is so then i guess maybe to see the face cards like what would be the purpose of opening them to look at them if you're not the face cards and the jokers this guy

and the face cards this guy goes unopened decks make me sad and a guy replies he goes love that statement haha i intend to open all my decks but like gandalf is a guy in the forum And after 100-plus open decks, I don't open everything nowadays, mostly due to not being in the mood when the decks arrive or life being in the way sometimes.

By the way, I got these fucking cards, and I'm just not in a mood to look at cards today.

That's sad.

That's sad, man.

To be because

you're a card guy, so it must mean you're really down in the dumps if you're not in the mood to look at cards.

You always talk about when you do,

when you do comedy, Claire, when we do, when you podcast and you're like,

you know, I really enjoy doing this.

I like doing it, but sometimes I just, I'm not in the mood to fucking do it.

Yeah.

But that is, it's totally different than being like, if you collect something and you, like, if I, whenever I got new Legos, especially a retired set, I'd be like,

so excited.

I'd be like, let's get this thing going.

now and get to building it and stuff like if i collected cards i think i would always like that would be the one thing i'd always be in the mood for because it's not like you

once once you're a podcast or whatever you and you start making money doing it it becomes a job but once you like collect you can't turn collecting cards into a job oh you can't get the press that you're oh you can't some sounds like somebody hasn't seen some of the biggest youtube channels these days man these this is absolutely pokemon cards there's people who are there's people who are going there buying these boxes and so that little kids can't get them these adult 50-year-old men, so little kids can't get them.

And then they're selling them for upwards to $7 to $8 a profit per box, Brian.

So, yeah, I'm thinking there's a bit of money to be made out there, actually.

So, he goes, for example, today, two hand-gilded Usi decks arrive, but opening them in my lunch break or after a busy workday doesn't feel right.

Oh,

buddy, go in and talk to a doctor.

Yeah, maybe he should just masturbate.

Yeah, oh, that's actually, he honestly sounds like he could use a good masturbate right now.

He just needs a release.

If he can't release the cards, if that's not enough,

it's just all about the release.

Honestly, masturbate, sir, and then go look at the cards and see if you're feeling differently at that point.

Exactly.

You might even break up with the cards after that.

Oh, yeah.

You could whack off.

I mean, I'm sure these guys have naked lady cards, right?

I'm sure.

Because I had them growing up.

I just want to say.

My friend Sean did.

Yeah.

My friend Sean had them.

I want to say that I feel like these guys who collect playing cards are pretty well versed in masturbating.

I don't know.

They only know cards.

He goes, there's still no better feeling.

I love this.

This is true card guy talk.

You're not going to understand a word of it.

It's true card guy talk.

There's still no better feeling in the world of cards than neatly cutting the seal, opening the tuck flap, handling and shuffling the deck for the first time, breaking it in, and then being in awe for the marvel of craftsmanship, technology, technology, and art that went into these little pieces of paper.

Ink, foil, and glue.

Okay, so

yeah, that's what I was going to say.

You want to masturbate?

I might be wrong.

Maybe they don't even need to masturbate.

These guys might just open a pack of playing cards and buzz.

It is weird to say, like, it is weird.

Oh, I've had such a bad day at work, and it just doesn't feel right to open up these cards I found.

It just doesn't, like, to me, it's like

a video game guy, right?

He'd be like, oh, man, you know, I've had a tough day at work.

I'm going to go home and play fucking video game.

But

just to play devil's advocate.

It's just sad to play video game.

Just to play devil's advocate, and I've been doing that a lot.

I'm going to stop for the rest of the episode, but.

Maybe it's like he's wanting, he knows that the cards, opening this card is going to be such a wonderful moment.

And he knows that right now he's in such a down mood that it's going to sully that moment.

And so he wants to be in the right headspace to truly appreciate the fucking magnificent opening of the of the cards i get that i get that with with art when i'm saving saving a like a good movie for a day that i actually want to watch it totally i do that with movies all the time where i'm like

yeah there's this movie that i've been wanting to watch that you know and it's like but it's way too dark and i'm like i'm really feeling kind of down right now i'm not really i don't want to see that kind of violence or whatever what oh

this is hypothetical It's a hypothetical.

Although, I mean, I am.

Hey, listen, I'll be honest.

I am feeling quite down these days.

It's my fault.

I've been yelling at them a lot.

Well, no.

Everybody knows why I'm down.

We just don't bring it up on the episodes because it really brings things down.

But listen to this guy.

I love this guy.

This is a guy that collects cards.

Most of my decks are unopen, but I do open a number of them.

A fraction of a larger number is still quite large.

So he's like, listen, I don't think you understand how many I have total.

I open so few of that, like percentage-wise, but it's still way more than you could ever imagine.

That's awesome.

I don't have time.

There's not enough time in the day to open all my cards.

Oh, what do I quit my job?

No,

I can't.

So then I can't open all the cards.

I actually have an unopened deck of cards that's sort of a special deck.

Should I unopen it?

Should I oh my god

you have it like you have it here right now where you could access it just right in the other room I can come right back is it a naked lady deck what Brian Brian can you chill out man don't act that way in front of the guests she's Claire's going to grab

the cards we're going to get the cards this is they call it breaking sorry they call it breaking card oh oh when you when you when you open a deck it's called breaking no i thought that's what they called sports card or breaking decks oh i i i don't know Maybe, maybe.

I've never heard that before.

You've never played.

You don't collect your cards, right?

You must not know anything about cards.

No, I collect a little bit differently, probably.

Like, I go to card shows, and then I look through singles, and I pick out singles.

But let's see.

Clara now has

opening the Jeff Stryker.

Jeff Stryker playing cards.

Wow.

Collector number two.

Where did you get those from?

I got them from a friend of mine, and he had a bunch.

He found just a box of them, and then he gave them away for Christmas.

Holy shit.

Where is Jeff Stryker from?

Honestly, he looks.

He's giving me sort of a Canadian vibe.

Yeah.

Doesn't he look a little like.

He looks like a Canadian Hasselhoff, kind of.

He looks like Gord Hasselhoff.

He's American.

He's from Carvey, Illinois.

And what's his deal?

He's a musician?

He does gay pornography.

He's a gay.

So I guess pick a card if any card.

Do you want to.

Yes, I do want to see.

Believe me, we've showed nastier stuff on here.

Oh, yeah.

This is only audio anyways.

But yeah,

we have a Patreon tier where we show pornographic materials.

We don't show pornographic material.

Our last upload on that tier was pornographic, and you know it.

This guy goes.

You didn't know it.

If you buy decks with the intent to sell, you might be setting yourself up for disappointment.

These collectibles should not be seen as an investment.

As statistically speaking, most of the decks in existence will not rise in value.

Claire, you're not losing any money here.

But you're not going to gain any money on your striker, unfortunately.

Emotionally speaking, it's nice to have the ability to open up one deck and admire the cards while knowing you have a duplicate in pristine condition untouched.

There's comfort in knowing you can preserve one.

And then, of course, there's the added benefit of trading/slash selling if you ever did decide to.

Keep thinking of the Bob Odenkirk sketch, the doubles and triples, you know, when these guys are talking about their decks of cards.

I love the idea of that of buying a second deck that you can open up so that you can keep one preserved.

That's real collector shit right there.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.

If you got the money,

play with your things.

Yeah,

and i like the idea i like the like that these guys are sort of like into mystery or whatever you know what i mean like there is like a they're like the magic guys a little weirder than the magic guys a little bit but like yeah because they're into one specific thing well they're like magic guys but they don't have like the flair or like you know they don't have that aspect of it they're kind of like a more introverted magic guy kind of i feel like not magic the gathering by the way we're talking about real magicians here so here we go right, right, right.

This guy goes, talk me out of selling my decks.

I hate it when guys do this, but they don't.

They go to unitedcardist.com and they're like, talk me out of selling my dicks.

Congratulations on your new hobby.

Oh, wait.

Yeah, he goes, getting into

precision rifle shooting.

I've already put my baby on layaway and we'll have it paid off in two to four weeks.

After that, more expensive things come, like a scope mount rings and the scope itself.

Mucho Dolarinos

talked me out of selling my prized possessions to fund this other amazing hobby.

So, hey, talk me out of getting rid of my cards to buy guns.

Yeah, talk me out of selling all of my possessions to buy a sniper rifle.

I don't know, man.

I'm not really sure.

You seem like the kind of guy that I don't want to talk out of or talk to about anything, honestly.

I don't know.

Like, he's already thinking of getting this, like, high-range scope.

It's on layaway, which is insane.

Putting your gun on layaway is really, really insane.

I don't even know.

Like, I thought layaway was like an old thing.

I don't really know.

I think it is, too.

I don't know of a place where you can do layaway because they have a firm in Klarnan.

Yeah, I don't know what layaway, like, layaway is just.

Isn't that just credit?

Like, you get it or you pay.

Like, how does it work?

The store keeps it, and you come in and make payments on it, and then they give it to you once it's paid off.

Oh, but there's like a little bit of interest.

They keep it, they keep it there.

You don't get it until you get it.

But nobody else can buy it while that's happening.

That's the idea behind it: is that it's like to get a thing that no, so then nobody else can get it.

But I mean, we make a lot of guns in this country, so I don't think there's a chance they're going to run out of these guns.

Yeah, congratulations.

Believe me, we wish there was a chance.

Congratulations on all the guns you got.

I wanted to say that to you, by the way, Brian.

I had been taking notice that you guys have been making a lot.

We have guns, We have scopes.

Oh, yeah.

And we have layaway.

We have some guns here up in Canada where I live, but

not as many.

This guy goes, congratulations on your new hobby.

I'm no stranger to firearms, and I think you're going to have a grand time with your new child.

It'll very likely multiply to children because you got to feed the blasted thing so much.

These guys talking about guns.

I'm sure you don't have to sell anything to support your plinking.

Just buy less of one thing and more of another.

So I'm not going to talk you out of anything.

If you see your collection as something you can part with or make room for another thing, then by all means, do so.

So these guys are like, hey, as long as you're fucking collecting something, it's okay.

Yeah, just like if you're getting...

Listen, we understand.

And also, you don't really want to be like...

Like, you don't want to be really confronting the guy about stopping collecting when he's like, yeah, I'm going to stop so I can buy a fucking sniper rifle.

You don't really want to be like, you're a fucking idiot to do that because all of a sudden you're on his fucking Steve Buscemi list from Billy Madison.

And also you want the

card.

Oh, yeah.

Because in the end, you get the card.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah.

So I feel like

this guy's talking about getting rid of his cards, though, specifically.

Get rid of my cards and get my guns.

Okay, so it's the money from the card sales to buy more guns.

I wonder how many cards he has or like, because they're not that expensive.

And again, as people said, I don't know what the resale is like.

That's a big thing.

Because there's like, you can give a value to something, but as everyone knows, something is only as valuable as what somebody will pay for it.

So you could like put this value that it's like worth this.

But if nobody wants to buy it from you, then it's

not, if there's not a guy in the community that has a ton of money.

Because that's really what you're hoping for.

You're hoping for a big white whale who's like, yeah, some guy to roll in and be like, I've always wanted that

Microsoft Windows 95 deck.

Yeah, like I needed to complete my collection of computer decks, and it's the last one.

And it's like, he'll pay you fucking 75 grand.

It's crazy that there are those guys, though, where you're like, who in their right mind would ever want this specific thing?

And there's always going to be somebody.

Yeah, there's going to be collectors who, some collectors who have that real thing in their brain become very rich.

And, you know, there's famous ones or whatever.

Like, I think Nick Cage collects like art or whatever they say, like fine art.

Like, so I think there's just guys like that who have that and they become super rich, and they're just looking to collect, like, that becomes their life goal to get that shit.

Yeah, you're talking about it.

Someone might really need this Jeff Stryker

Joker collection.

Oh, my God.

He's got a great hog.

Oh, I just wanted to beautiful hog, everybody.

Jeff Stryker.

And

I feel like he's chubbed it, but it is pointing down.

It's pointing down.

And if it's pointing down, it's heavy.

If it's too heavy,

it's pointing down.

I don't want to see it when it's pointing up.

This thing was me level.

It was me level.

This thing has a shadow.

This thing looks hanging, man.

Man, this guy goes, so I'm not going to talk you out of anything.

If you see your collection.

Okay, so he goes,

Although if you have a couple shoeboxes in the back of the closet with some very nice pairs of kicks that almost never adorn your trotters, perhaps consider selling the shoes.

Wait, what?

This guy's not.

Why do I talk like that?

But also, this guy's, that's such a cycle of variety.

Sell some of your old shoes.

Like, nobody wants to buy your old shoes unless you're a sneakerhead.

They're saying that.

They're saying, are you a sneakerhead?

Like, they have now all kind of decided this guy collects everything.

Everything.

Because a sneakerhead is a very specific type of person and not just a collector.

That's a different type of collector, I feel like.

Yeah, he goes, although he goes,

perhaps consider selling the shoes and using their boxes to house your collection.

Well, you got to sell a box too, you dumbfuck.

Yeah, you're so

here's my old fucking shoes.

Oh, the box?

No, I need the box.

I can't think of anywhere else to put my fucking...

This guy's got bad advice.

I'm also just realizing I don't know.

I have no concept of how much a gun is.

Yeah, I mean, a sniper rifle, I would imagine, would be like a couple thousand dollars, right?

Or $1,000.

Yeah, my guess is that he's probably buying an AR-15.

Like, is my guess, but I might even be wrong because I don't think those are exceptionally expensive.

I don't know in the scope.

Who knows how much?

I don't know either.

I'm not a gun person, and so I have no real assumptions.

I always assume

that they're very cheap in America, but

that's judgmental of me.

They're not because I wanted to buy a pistol a few times, and then I'd be like, oh, I worked out all the prices.

We can get it.

My wife was like, you're not getting a gun.

And just to be clear, Claire has nothing to do with the price of the gun as far as why his wife says we're not getting a gun.

It's because she's very thoughtful.

She doesn't want to feel

considerate person who also knows Brian really well and

knows what all of us know.

And it's a bad idea for him to own a fire.

This guy goes,

he goes, take me,

this guy goes, these are two interests that shouldn't class.

I'm assuming that card collecting satisfies a certain artistic desire while precision shooting satisfies some sort of sporting need.

I love that.

You call anything a sport.

I get it.

But like shooting a gun at something, shooting a gun at a target is something.

But I don't know if it's a skill.

But yeah, when that guy at the Olympics got up there, like just wearing his t-shirt or whatever, and like not using any of the machine, you know, what was that guy's name?

I forget.

He just shot the target dead on.

He was really famous at the Olympics, but it sort of like it sort of showed people that, like, I don't know, man.

I don't know if this is a sport.

This guy just kind of walked in off the street like John Wick and just fucking shot his gun at the thing and like got a medal, you know.

I love that.

You guys are going to love the rest of this post.

He goes, don't fall.

He goes, why is one more important than the other?

Can they not coexist?

Don't fall into the trap of new as better.

It may be, but not for that reason.

Besides, if you're looking for a new fresh car, designs arise farther more often than that for guns.

So he's like, he's like,

there's more cards than guns.

I know you feel like

you're at the end, but they're coming out with new and exciting cards.

The card technology they're coming out with nowadays is insane.

When have they invented a new gun?

Yeah.

This is really like last week's episode.

We talked about Apple guys.

Yeah.

Where they were like, where Apple guys were like, well, the reason they're not inventing new stuff is because all the stuff's invented.

Yeah, they're done with the cards.

They can't do anything more.

I mean, he's right in the sense that, like, there's an

it's unending possibilities for a card.

Like, you just, hey, here's a card of the fucking, you know, here's a keyboard card for the, you know, it's keyboards or whatever.

Like, there's just everything in the world can become a card, whereas everything in the world can't become a gun.

So that is a good point.

He goes, scratching that itch with a new deck is something that will occur far more often.

One of these hobbies is much more expensive than the other.

Ask your wallet for its opinion before pulling the trigger these guys claire you saying that really did like they talk like variety magic yeah they are yeah this is a very unique style of talking i don't even know that it's like any of the other ones it has like elements of other types of guys but i don't think they should like they just want to get into like creative writing it seems like yeah i think they're all creative we know a lot of guys who are really we want we read some guys who do reviews Those are my favorite kind of guys where they really want to do creative writing, but they never got a creative writing job.

And their review is like this really intricate, well-written thing.

And that to them is their creative writing.

But it's annoying.

I just read a review the other day.

Oh, I got to talk about this.

Okay.

I read a review the other day.

There's a new place right by my house called Goodfellas Pizza.

I know.

Super close to your house, right?

Like right there.

I love how you just tell everyone where you live.

I mean, they know I live by the convention center.

At least it doesn't still have your address on the LLC that you.

Nope.

New address.

Yeah, that's.

And there's security in the building and all that.

But I live by this place, Goodfella's Pizza, and I was hungry the other night, and I was like, I'm going to, you know, they're open until 3 a.m.

I was like, I'm going to hit up this Goodfella.

I had been walking past it.

They have breadsticks that are like this

long.

Seriously.

I'm not exaggerating.

It's as long as my penis.

And Claire I call him just.

It's a running joke that he says he has a 17-inch penis.

I don't, he doesn't normally just say, like, hey, yeah, it's like the size of my cock.

I want to be a pistol.

Yeah, you know, I was thinking of buying a pistol and like the size of my cock.

Like, he's a normal guy.

He's like, I'm familiar with men on podcasts.

Yeah, he has good politics, Claire.

I swear he has good politics.

I accept the best politics.

I swear he does.

I'm a prominent leftist.

Well, I was.

Ask any.

Actually, I was kind of sad because I was at the community festival over there and I walked by the DSA tent.

Nobody knew me.

I kind of wanted to go over there and be like, hey, guys, how's it going?

Hey, I'm Murder Bryant.

I'm a prominent leftist.

You guys know me?

Dirtbag style.

Yeah,

you can see in the Wikipedia article for it.

I'm actually referenced on it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

For sure.

So this guy goes,

he goes, one of these hobbies is much more expensive than the other.

Oh, yeah.

He goes,

notice how you use the word, quote, prized in referring to your card.

Doesn't seem like you're ready to let go.

Finally, like the last two guys wrote, Handmade Dead Man's Deck would be awesome.

I don't know

a handmade deck.

A handmade deck is, listen, that would, to me, that's like a one-of-one, one-of-a-kind by some crazy, like, like, like you you talked about that guy who's the famous card deck maker or whatever, Brian, the one who like posts up.

Imagine you get a deck that he handmakes a one-of-one deck.

That would be like the top of it, the most expensive, best kind of deck you could get, in my opinion.

It's sad, my one-of-one Brett Hart card is missing.

It's in one of my boxes.

Fuck.

Brian, you got a, we met Brett.

Do you know wrestling at all, Claire?

I didn't know of the Bret Hart era.

Yeah, you know, Brett the Hitman Hart.

He's still going strong, actually.

He's still

great.

He looks really whatever.

He looks like he can wrestle.

He looks like he can wrestle.

He comes up with all kinds of

vim and vigor.

But Brian got a one-of-one autograph card of his, actually.

They didn't quite understand what was going on, and then the guys were like, let us take a picture with you on the yeah, they're taking photos with them and stuff like that.

Like Brian, like, really, like, it was a real collector moment.

And then Brian sat on it and broke it.

Now he lost the broken card.

He sort of sat on it?

Yeah, he sat on it.

It was in, like, a plastic thing.

It broke.

It's fine.

I could get a new plastic thing any day.

This guy is a site admin answering this question.

Uh-oh.

Are you similarly considering divesting yourself of your comic book?

I can't remember if you're the sort of who gets dupes.

If you do, and for some reason, I don't think you do.

You may want to try paring down the dupes and see how it feels to sell those off before you touch the heart of your collection.

There you go.

Hey, try selling a couple of what you don't care about as much.

Sell the dupes.

How that makes you feel.

Sell the dupes and just see.

Once you get rid of the dupes, you only got one of each.

Then see, hey, was it worth it?

No, I might have to dupe up again, actually.

I'm feeling like

this is.

Yeah, people who use things like dupes are, I love that.

Yeah, when they shorten duplicate.

If you don't allow me to suggest caution, hold on to what you have for a little while longer and see how you feel.

These guys are just like, these guys heard this guy is thinking about getting rid of his card to buy guns, and they immediately ran to their partner and they sat down.

They're like, I can't believe it.

One of the guys from the United Cardistry Message Board is selling his card.

Well,

I don't think it went down like that.

In my opinion, it went down like their partner just noticed something was up.

You know what I mean?

They said, are you okay?

Like, you haven't touched your fucking mashed potatoes and turkey, you know?

And it's just like

Wayne has done the thing, you know, and like she had to drag it out of them.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

They're like, like, yeah, they're treating it like they're about to lose their friend and they need to save him, basically.

But in their defense, he did ask.

He said, talk me out of it.

You know, he asked.

But I mean, you get money when you sell stuff.

And I argue that that also feels good.

You know what I mean?

When you get like, when I went and sold Legos to that guy who gave me 60 bucks, Yeah.

I was like, fuck, yeah, I got 60 bucks.

You know what I mean?

Like, it was so exciting.

I didn't miss the Legos at all.

We tried to get him to donate to Legos.

I did donate it.

Well, not all of them sound like that.

First of all, they wouldn't take it at the library.

Yeah.

They wouldn't allow it for some reason.

You had too much.

I did.

And so then I took them to one library where they were allowed to do it.

And then I took another one to an LGBTQ

kids' place called Kaleidoscope in town.

Look it up.

Kaleidoscope.

Kaleidoscope, Columbus Open.

How many did they take?

Did they take a good chunk of them?

They took a massive box.

Okay.

And, you know, donate to them if you can.

Anyway,

he goes, I can't remember if you're.

Oh, he goes, if you don't,

you can always sell them later.

If you do sell them now, then realize that was the wrong choice.

You can't easily undo that decision down the road.

Not without spending a lot of moolah.

No, he's right.

Once you get rid of them, they're gone.

Whereas, like, so it has to be, it's true.

It has to be a very well-thought-out, measured decision because once they're gone, it's a lot harder to get them back than the other way around.

Well, this, our original poster responded to that and he goes, I can count the number of decks I bought this year on one hand.

Fuck.

It's not a matter of clashing hobby-wise.

It's a matter of this rifle loadout is going to be expensive.

I have other valuables I can spare to make it happen sooner.

One of the hobbies can save my life.

I mean, it can also.

Okay, hang on a second.

So now we're getting down to it.

Somebody, somebody got confronted by a larger man at the grocery store and decided never again, never again is somebody going to talk to me like that.

And he's training himself up for self-defense now.

With a sniper rifle.

With a sniper rifle.

With a pistol.

Not a pistol, Brian, because no, no, no, no.

He's going to take the beating and then he's going to fucking wait in the bushes the next day because he doesn't even want to have to shoot somebody from up close you know because you can't carry a rifle with you i mean you can you can people do it

people do in a you can do it here for sure technically you can do it you never see it well you do see people

i've seen videos of people in your city yeah i'm probably in a suburb or something like that but you don't see them downtown it's yeah you know libby down here he goes uh one of the hobbies and he goes so really my comic book collection and playing card collection both clash and comics win without it even being closed?

I'll definitely be doing or trying to do a shooting-related giveaway for the next deck of the year.

A shooting-related giveaway.

That's interesting.

So you're going to give stuff away, but you're also going to shoot your gun off.

I think it's going to shoot the deck of cards, maybe?

No, because then it wouldn't be able to give it away.

So maybe you shoot a target and the target where it hits coincides with who gets it or something like that.

I just, I don't know.

It seems to me like he's kind of trying to shoehorn the shoe dig into it.

Well,

finally, this guy goes, when I moved away from coin collecting, I sold many of my more valuable and easily sellable coins.

That has still left me with a sizable collection.

I guess one of these days when I retire, I'll take time to divest myself of the rest of the collection.

In the meantime, I enjoy still having many fun and interesting coins that don't tie up a ton of my capital.

Sell how you want.

The nice thing about playing cards is that it really doesn't have to be too draining on your wallet if you will hold yourself to just the new standard issues and avoid the bling of the limited and gilded version.

Yeah,

you got to avoid the playing card bling.

You may have no major resale opportunity, but also no major investment.

Yeah, that's that's listen.

He that he's right in the sense it's like it's very low stakes collecting.

It doesn't cost you a lot.

So you can continue to do it and it's not going to like kill you.

You could just spend like a hundred bucks a month or whatever on playing cards and you could be an avid collector i like the coins got me though i'm i for one love a good challenge coin claire you you collect challenge coins at all that's a challenge coin oh i see somebody somebody hasn't been someone hasn't been to the chive lately i guess

i can't find my coin i have a coin right here this is our challenge coin we made challenge coins actually there's our oh let me turn it over you'll murphy on it it.

That's Bill Murray there on our challenge coin.

Keep calm and guys on.

Yeah, the chive.

Do you remember the chive?

The website?

I remember chive on.

Yeah, so it's still going and they're still doing it, like the same jokes and everything.

And they have challenge coins is like a huge part of their, where they have all these like Chris Farley, like Matt Foley, Down by the River challenge coins, and like Napoleon Dynamite.

So yeah, we kind of became obsessed with them.

And then we,

someone contacted us, said we could make our own, so we did.

And yeah, that's what they were quite popular.

Quite popular.

When I moved, I had a stack of coins like this that people have mailed me, and they're all disgusting.

Most of them are just like because they're police thing.

Like the police and the military give each other coins.

Yeah, police challenge coins is a huge thing in military challenge coins.

It's really weird.

It is.

Here's a question.

Here's a question.

And this is good.

This will, this will,

in R slash magic, a guy goes, do you carry a deck of cards as part of your EDC?

Oh, do you know EDC?

Chris got excited.

Sorry, I got really excited there.

Sorry.

Some people,

the memory haters on the podcast, the ones who hate when we bring up other stuff.

But yeah, EDC is everyday carry.

So there's EDC guys who are like, they have their everyday carry that they'll lay it out on the table and sort of show each other.

Like, this is what I carry around with me, a knife and tactical thing or whatever.

And they carry a bag, but but they call it a man purse because it like,

you know, it like deflates the other people calling it a purse.

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the thing I've noticed lately because I know, I don't remember who I was talking to, but they were like, oh, yeah, I've got my merse.

And it's like, okay.

Taking back the power.

They're taking back the power on it.

Taking back the power.

And this is from R slash Magic, by the way.

Okay.

And he goes, is it a good idea for card magicians to always have cards on them?

Why or why not?

I would say yes.

This guy gets a lot of money.

Yes, if you're calling yourself a card magician, you should have a cards on you.

And I'd say

as far as the why, I would say in order to do card tricks.

But

most of us have done stand-up.

Me and Claire have done stand-up.

You don't always have a joke ready.

When somebody says, tell me a joke.

Well, you do.

I never have a joke ready.

You always have a joke ready.

No, you always have a joke ready.

You just don't want to say it.

You're like, fuck off.

If someone said, tell you a joke, joke, Claire, you could tell them a joke because you have a bunch of jokes, but you just wouldn't want to because it's really sort of, it's really humiliating.

By the way, Brian's never done stand-up.

I tread the boards for several years.

Don't use my terms.

I used the boards.

I used to do that.

I used a whole stand-up comedy.

You tickled the ivory.

So just to be clear, it's so funny because I think Brian might believe that's actually what you, because that's the joke that I say.

Treading the boards

means like acting on Broadway.

I did that too?

Yeah.

No, but that's what I refer to stand-up as.

And I think Brian really now believes that that is acting.

I did Broadway too.

I've acted.

Yeah.

But most, mostly off-Broadway stuff.

I was in Green Day American Idiot.

I like to think of stand-up as, like, what is a microphone made of?

Like, what's the tip of a microphone made of?

Metal?

No, I mean, I guess.

I've spit on the metal.

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

Have you ever, have you ever s

spit on the...

Wait, what's the other thing, like, the foam?

Have you ever spit on the foam?

Have you ever soaked the foam?

Wait, though, there's not usually foam on a microphone on a stand-up.

It's usually an SM58.

It's soaked inside.

Inside there is.

Under the S.

Yeah.

It is under the nasty.

It's really nasty.

The more you talk about that, Claire, it is really one of the more nasty aspects of doing stand-up is like being on an open mic where some of the nastiest people go and spit into a microphone that you then go put your mouth right into.

Microphones are stinky.

One thing

that I don't care about.

Yeah.

Mines do.

They stink.

Mine doesn't.

Mine smells great, but yeah, they are.

They do.

They are.

This guy goes, I used to tossing a deck in the backpack now.

It depends on if you want to practice whenever the opportunity arises or perform ad hoc.

Some folks prefer to have a, quote, off mode.

I'm tossing them in, not because I expect to practice that much with that deck, which will probably end up at the bottom of the bag for months, but because it'll give me occasional pause to decide if I need more screen time or if I'd like to practice a few slides that I'm rusty on.

I have a video.

I was sitting in Los Angeles at a cafe in Los Angeles, California, at a table outside, and a guy comes up to my table, and there's nowhere else to sit.

He goes, Do you mind if I sit here?

And I go, Okay.

And he pulls out a book he just bought

of how to do sleight of hand card tricks.

And he opens up the book, and he's reading it.

And with his hands, with no cards, he's sort of like miming

like the hand movements he has to do.

And he's just sort of just doing that in front of me.

And so I have a little video of this guy reading this book and he's going,

okay.

I mean, that is, that is such a, I mean, that happens regularly in Los Angeles.

It felt very.

That's such a Los Angeles thing, and I know that.

I spend quite a bit of time out in Los Angeles.

I had a magician stop me this weekend.

Oh, really?

That's wild.

I thought it was three-card Monty, but

I've been reading these boards for like a week.

So, like, maybe it wasn't three-card Monty.

He just had a tiny little table, right?

Sitting outside when I was at this festival.

He had this tiny little table.

There was nobody there.

So I'm like, this fucking tiny little table must be for a little kid.

And then an adult man comes up and he's like, want to see some magic?

And I said, No,

he just said no.

Yeah, that sucks for him.

I did that a couple of times, actually.

A little kid came up to me and was like, They were, it was like some kind of Hare Krishna like

thing, like some, you want to chant with us or whatever?

And the kid's like, Do you want

to know?

It's like, You want eternal happiness?

And I said, No, and I just kept walking.

I just, you got, I'm trying to be more direct with people on the street.

I think you gotta, yeah, I mean, honestly, I am.

Like, those people, I don't ever get that sort of, but yeah, obviously the people with the binders or whatever who are trying to stop them.

I'm very clear.

Just like, I'm not the person.

You don't want to talk to me about this.

I do think, I will say this.

I don't think you should be practicing your cardistry in public.

You wouldn't practice doing magic at a cafe.

Yeah, I think.

You know what I mean?

And I'm a magician.

Yeah, he actually

does magic sometimes.

Like that's true.

I will not like he dazzling Brian is his magic magic.

Dazzling Brian.

He pulls the bunnies out.

That's another way of doing that.

No, he doesn't.

That's way too.

No, he does like.

I have a light up thumb.

His thumb lights up is his main trick.

He has one of those like red light up thumbs.

No, it's a thumb that lights up.

I can't do it right now.

My magic energy is low.

His magic energy is low, meaning he can't find the thumb that lights up.

It's too hard to find the thumb.

I think these guys shouldn't be practicing in public.

I agree.

I don't want to see you fucking, I don't want to see what you're doing.

I want you to fucking be, because I love, I don't know what it is, but when I see a guy do that thing where he flips a card up into his other hand, I'm like, that's impressive.

That is the kind of thing I find impressive.

You know?

Yeah, because if you're practicing it public,

then there goes the magic.

There goes the mystery.

Yeah.

It's true, Claire.

Next time time that guy tried to pull some shit on you, you'd be like, well, I know what you did there because I've seen you do it over and over again with your hands.

You did Johnny's

two-timer.

Yeah, you did a reverse Johnny up vote, you know?

I was a standard move.

Standard move.

We're going to look at what's the most expensive deck you've ever opened, then some decks of card reviews.

Okay.

So I told you, tell us a story.

How much was it worth at the time?

You opened it.

Why did you open it?

And what have have you done with it since?

Any regrets?

First guy goes, Cripped.

The deck is unique in that it can be opened without being opened.

Okay.

Wait, wait, what?

What?

Right now.

Wait, what is it?

I don't know what that is.

What did he say?

I think it just means it can be resealed in a way that makes it seem like, you know what I mean?

Maybe it's just sealed with a sticker that can be restuck or something is how I imagine it.

What did he say, though?

The crib?

Did he say it's like crib?

Cripped.

So

it's a deck that is in

just a plain cardboard thing, right?

And it's the one you're not allowed to take a picture of.

You're not supposed to take a picture of it.

So, this is the special one that we heard about initially.

Okay.

Yes, it's Crypt from Low Trek.

No pictures.

I can show you the.

All I have here is.

Oh, yeah, I guess you can't show us a picture of it.

I can't show you a picture.

I can show you how it comes.

So this is Crypt.

So it just comes in like a nondescript brown cardboard box, just like a shipping box.

Yeah, so that's a $400 deck.

That costs $400.

That's a $400 deck.

So anyway, he goes, the deck is unique in that it can be open without being open.

And one of the most beautiful decks I've ever seen.

I keep it in a carrot case and giggle at the plain cardboard.

I open it occasionally to admire the beauty, $400.

Do you think sometimes if you spend $400 on something, maybe you feel like you have to open it up every now and then to admire the beauty and you maybe convince yourself that it's quite beautiful and that you weren't ripped off?

I would say

that,

yes, because of the way it comes.

That

so

if you're going to show off your collection to people who are laymen, right?

Yeah.

Which I'm not, but you guys are.

If I was going to show off my collection to laymen, I would have to explain this.

You would have to say this cardboard bag right here that comes in a cardboard box, that's worth $400.

Like, he has to say it.

Yeah, he

has to say the value of it because otherwise, like, I guess you could start.

Like, how do you quantify the importance of it or whatever?

Other than that, to say, like, it's very limited.

You're not allowed to take pictures.

It's like very exclusive.

But really, at the end of the day, they're going to be like, they can't really quantify it unless you say it costs $400.

Yeah,

there's no brand name recognition.

There's no Louis Vuitton.

No, exactly.

Unless they're like a card person, in which case you don't even need to tell them.

They already know.

My brother saw a guy in a stone-cold Steve Austin shirt that was like

very rare bootleg like shirt.

You know what I mean?

From the 90s.

And he was like, when the hell is that?

You know what I mean?

I was like, that thing's probably fucking $700.

And he's like, no, it's not.

And I was like, it is?

He was like, it's not even the official brand.

And And I was like, that's why it's worth so fucking much, dude.

So,

yeah,

I used to wear like a lot of hype beast gear.

And I used to get bugged if I didn't get a compliment, which, by the way,

I was wearing a Takeshi Murakami LA Dodgers t-shirt with flowers on it on Friday night, right?

It looks so fucking cool.

I'm walking with my wife, and she's wearing a Guns N' Roses t-shirt that's like cropped, that is like a little older, and you know, that.

This fucking guy, he goes, hey, nice shirt.

And I was like, thanks, man.

And then he was like, guns and roses.

And I was like, oh,

brutal.

Wrong thing.

That happened to me once when I was walking down the street and I was fixing my hair and a guy was driving by and he yelled out, Your hair looks perfect, honey.

You don't have to fix it.

And I go, Thanks.

And he goes, Not you.

And there was a woman woman behind me with really beautiful long flowing hair where it made more sense

I wish I wouldn't have said anything you know what I mean like if I didn't say hey man thanks and then he clarifies that's what I said to my wife I was like why did he clarify what a fucking

why would he clarify you know well I mean he's a Guns N' Roses fan he was like he had a moment with a fellow fan that's what he thought it was a Dodger thing he didn't give a fuck about hype be stuff because Charmer's signature I'm not a fan of Low Trek's in-house plastic bag wrap, and I wanted to feel the texture of the silk tuck.

I have it in a carrot case and didn't want it to be damaged as the bag was putting pressure on the tuck box when inserted into the case.

I also told myself I wouldn't be reselling it.

$240.

So this guy doesn't tell you the prices, which is annoying.

And then this guy goes.

So the other guy says crypt.

And he goes, Crypt and Standard Oath G-O-G would be my most expensive ones.

I open.

I open them because I own 99.9% of the,

I opened 99.9% of the decks I own to see them with my own eyes.

No regrets because I saw their overall underwhelming and sold them well north of what I paid for them.

If I would have never opened them, I would have had them still sitting on my shelf and taking up space and funds.

I like this guy.

Oh, shit.

The deck that nobody can look at, he bought and said it fucking sucks.

Yeah, wasn't that good?

Yeah, and this guy goes, if you found crypt underwhelming, what are some decks you find impressive or overwhelming?

So now he's made guys in the subreddit mad.

They're pissed.

Yeah, they're like, what the fuck are you doing?

Like, we all have agreed that the crypt is like the best.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like you're taking this away from us.

Like, I'm like, this is the thing I want to, this is what I'm aspiring to get.

And now you're like saying that it kind of sucks.

Like, my whole life is based around getting this deck.

So, yeah, he explains it

in a really long-winded way.

And I want to do some reviews.

Another guy says, NPCCD 2019 Sugar Plum decks.

Not too sure what they'd be worth since I haven't seen any sealed ones for sale.

I'd imagine $200.

And then this guy opened a gold monarch because he's dying to see what the gold foil looked like on a cars and was not disappointed.

And I didn't regret it either as I I had two others sealed.

Okay.

There's no fucking point in telling a story.

He has triples.

That guy had triples.

He was fine.

Yeah, he's trips.

I used them a few times for cardistry before trading them.

What's cardistry?

Can you

like card tricks?

Card trick.

But not card tricks, just like flare, card flare, like where you're doing the thing, like fanning it out.

But yeah, most cardestry, if you go to the cardestree subreddit, it's a bunch of guys going, did I invent this?

And then doing moves with their cards.

I see.

They're like,

they're like, holy shit.

I was just like flailing my arms around with these cards.

I think I might have invented the next big thing.

I think they invented a new card move.

Yeah.

Like, that's what I saw so many guys be like, I think I invented a new card move.

And then people would be like, that's called the, you know, the.

Pale man's divorce or something because they always have a weird name.

Hey, Chuck, it's your cousin Marvin.

You know, they just see this trick.

Theory 11 makes cards.

I will show you guys.

This deck is $12.99.

$12.99.

Yeah, and we have covered,

we definitely have covered MCU, guys.

This is an Avengers deck.

See, this is the thing where I would, this is what I kind of thought was that it was.

Because you like the Avenger.

Well, you know, I love Tony Stark.

You know I love Iron Man.

He's so fucking badass, man.

I like him because he's got so much money.

Absolutely.

My two favorite uh superheroes are Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne.

Not even Batman.

I like Bruce when he's just out there making

when he's doing business deals.

He's actually a pretty good businessman.

He's actually like managed to accumulate great wealth.

And it's like, yeah, he had like parents who were like pretty, but it's like he pretty much built himself up as well.

Like he had to work really hard when he was younger.

I did look this up and it is

the face cards are the avengers

kind of so like the king is still looks like a king but with tony stark's max but it's tony stark is the king

i think so yeah hold on because i have it i looked them up it was very and so the because the first review i want to read you the first review the cards ain't have any avengers on them The cards are regular cards, and the only thing cool about these are the covers.

So that lady, the cards ain't got them.

So, I had to look them up.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm doing it right now.

I think that that would be the allure of it, obviously.

But that's when I imagined playing card people, I always thought that, like, it was a thing people collected as part of a different collection, if you know what I mean.

Like, like, like

I'm a big Avengers fan, or I'm a big Star Wars fan, so I have Star Wars playing cards.

I never, yeah, I never even considered people collecting just playing cards for themselves.

Me either.

These are the car.

It's not impressive, right?

But they're kind of cool.

They kind of honestly, if you guys are, go look them up if you're if you're wondering, but they kind of I agree, they look kind of cool because they look like the playing card design, like kind of have that cool design.

But then they're, yeah, like there's a Black Panther one.

I don't know what that one on the left is.

Is it Captain America?

That's Captain America.

Yeah, but they call him Cap.

Cap.

One of the big complaints about this deck that I don't think you're going to hear in the reviews I have is that

the numbers and letters are too skinny.

They're like fired up.

What the fuck, man?

You skinny letters?

The letters are really skinny.

I'm just noticing.

It's so funny.

The letters are really skinny.

Well, because the A in Avengers is a pretty skinny A.

Oh, so maybe they're using the,

yeah, they're using the font, probably.

The Avengers fonts.

They can't do that.

They're using the margins.

Avengers' margins.

I guess I would say, why would you you care?

But whatever.

That's part of collecting the goddamn cards.

I don't know.

This person goes, not really Avengers card.

So not one star, so not worth it.

The only thing that shows anything related to Avengers is the two Joker.

Both the back of that and the back of each card and front are just regular cards.

I read that and I was like, what would it be?

Because you can't change the suit.

You can't say

this is an eight

of Star-Lords.

Because you need to know if it's clubs or heart or diamonds.

Yeah,

it is.

You're right.

You have to give that information.

But could you have some of the

Avengers just kind of like on the card, just kind of flying around?

I think it's busy, though.

And like you're playing it, you're trying to play.

I think it would...

It would be too busy about it.

I don't think you're trying to play, though.

I don't think you're trying to play.

I think you're an Avengers fan.

fan avengers fan who's just wants to look at different avengers stuff like you'd buy like a sticker book of avengers or whatever right just holding a playing card deck and like just looking at it just yeah just looking at it yeah just looking at it there's nothing wrong with buying something just to look at it yeah yeah well i just thought again

i don't know what you want

when it comes to that, you know?

They didn't even do anything special for the Jack, Queen, or king which by the way they they did he just didn't notice that you're such a

light

you didn't even notice it you like it's not that subtle though by the way it's like pretty obvious that it's that they did

no and he goes uh they didn't even have anything special for the oh he goes i thought it would have the gold avengers crest on the back of each card at least nope plain blue nothing special

yeah they yeah you gotta have the gold though you know it makes it seem so cool this guy says says, Total crap.

One star.

These cards are total crap.

I bought them for my son's birthday.

I have accidentally spilled water on the tablecloth.

The box of the cards has immediately absorbed the water like a piece of toilet paper and colored the cards black.

Some cards also absorbed water.

I've never seen cards of such poor quality.

Oh,

sounds like you fucking ruined your son's birthday.

And now you're looking for anybody else to just shoulder some of the blame.

Exactly.

Pour a glass of water on a stack of cars.

This motherfucker went Will Farrell in old school mode, which is fucking just crashing, knocking tables over and shit.

And now he's just like, well, the playing card, this quality of these playing cards, ridiculous, eh, honey?

And she's just like, oh, my God, you're so embarrassing.

You know, she's just like humiliated.

Like, we should call the playing card company to talk about how much this ball's absorbed it.

It's like, how about we call someone and talk about your drinking, you know?

Like,

it absorbed it like toilet paper is so funny to me.

I just loved it.

This guy bought the cards and then spilled water all over.

Listen, that's brutal.

That is fucking brutal.

I could say my kid's too young to now, but I can imagine that just sounds fucking brutal.

But don't blame it on the cards, man.

If he had dupes, he'd be okay.

Oh, yeah, you you should have bought dupes.

Daddy should have bought dupes.

Daddy, sorry, honey.

I'm sorry, honey.

The reason your cards are

ruined is because daddy didn't have the foresight to buy dupes.

I'm sorry.

Well, they're $12 decks.

Yeah, it's a $12 dupes.

And for some reason, your father doesn't even think to get dupes, you know?

I don't know.

I just don't know.

Who would pour water?

on a $12 deck?

So anyway, this guy, last review of this one, one star.

Don't buy it.

Money down the drain.

Numbers so small and narrow, it could not be used to play.

Oh, so then

thought about rewriting the numbers with a sharpie, gave up midway, threw them into the trash can.

P.S.

This is my first review.

I don't know how to give it a zero-star rating.

Oh, that's another favorite of ours: I would give it zero if I could.

I'm pissed off that I have to give it a star.

It does not deserve a star.

These narrow numbers.

It's such a weird.

I don't think it's that big of a deal.

No.

Oh, no.

We're saying that definitely they were skinny numbers and skinny letters, but not to the point where you're not able to tell what they are.

I mean, you're looking at the cards very close up.

They're not like,

you're not playing far away cards or whatever.

Is this an eight or a one?

Yeah,

what the hell?

Is this a fat one or a skinny eight?

I can't tell.

Here's another deck.

You can buy this.

This is the industry standard, right?

Yeah, this is the one that I used to play when I was a kid, the blue and red

bicycle.

And you can get 23 deck, or you can get like 10 decks for 23 bucks.

Yeah, these are like, yeah, two bucks of, you know, you get them at the dollar store or whatever.

And this is what you use for cardistry because if you bring special cards to do a trick on somebody, they'll think you fucking rigged the deck.

I understand.

You have to use use like bicycle or beat.

You have to use the industry standard, the ones that people know and recognize the real.

That makes sense.

Now that that's an interesting thing because yeah,

you have to get down to their level, basically.

Yeah, because they don't know shit about cards.

Most people, they don't know nothing.

They don't know fucking anything.

They don't know about, oh, this is a crypt deck.

It's like, I actually have to fucking gouge your eyes out now because you even seen this fucking thing and you don't appreciate it.

You know, but yeah, it's not comes over, grabs your crypt deck, and I was like, what is this?

And he's like, I'm sorry, I don't trust you.

Yeah, honestly,

like I'm sorry, it's a crypt deck, and it's like

I could show it to you, but yeah, you don't seem like somebody who I don't want you telling people what it was.

Yeah, I don't want you.

I know that you're pretty good at describing things visually, and I don't want you to describe this to an artist and have them recreate it, and then all of a sudden I'm left holding the bag, you know?

Yeah, you gotta have my my uh dupe orbit deck.

Yeah, you can

go play in the corner with my orbit dupe deck over there and the adults will be over here with the crypt.

This guy goes, good, but weird packaging, which is a weird thing to say because we all know the packaging.

Oh, of bicycle?

For bicycle cards.

Everybody in the world knows it.

Well, he goes, I like the cards.

Classic bicycle cards, but not quite sure why each box.

Not only one came with plastic packaging, but they also came with an annoying sticker.

These stickers were meant to show the sealed boxes, but it seems over the top since it already comes in a plastic and the stickers do not come off easily.

Purchased these so I could play one-suit Spider-Solitaire with all spades, but quite annoying to have these stickers that leave the residue on the boxes.

Terrible packaging.

Wait a second.

You just need to, just with your nail even, just

slice the thing across.

He's trying to pull the whole sticker off.

This stupid idiot doesn't know how to open a box.

I'm sorry.

like the north.

This is like how you open boxes, a lot of different boxes.

This is not just cards.

This is like electronics that have that.

It's like very common.

And we all know how to open a deck of fucking cards.

Don't know what to do.

Yeah, but some of us are thinking really hard about other stuff all the time.

And so there's not enough space in the brain to be like, yeah, especially these guys.

Opening, yeah.

Yeah, especially these guys, especially when they have the deck out, that is a good point to give them a bit of a, because when they have the deck out and they're thinking about their tricks and their flares and their different like inventing moves and shit and so they're not necessarily they're they got all that's when they're probably at their most overwhelmed mentally yeah oh my god this guy goes uh ordered these for our euchre team used two times and have to replace them they're delaminated ripping and bending They are bicycle brand, but do not have the logo of the back of the cards.

Not worth it.

So I think this person.

He's playing too hard.

It sounds like they're playing cards too hard.

No, I think this person did not buy bicycle cards.

Oh,

they bought fakes.

They're definitely bicycle cards, but they just don't have the bicycle logo on it.

But it's like they have the designs, and it's like, well, no, that's the sort of cards designs.

Like all of the, you know what I mean?

That's not like a bicycle thing.

Those kind of, you know what I'm saying?

Like the kind of like that's common with other card companies as well.

So it does sound like, yeah, you got a different brand.

These next two go together.

Item reads bicycle standard, quote, jumbo playing card.

Since the item said jumbo on the website title, I thought the numbers on the cards would be larger, but they're not.

There's nothing jumbo about them.

And then this next guy goes, not jumbo

standard jumbo is not a good description.

We wanted jumbo, they are not.

Very disappointed.

Glad they were cheap.

Not jumbo enough.

I've never heard

the word jumbo.

And finally, this is a deck from Theory 11.

This is our last thing here.

This is.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Oh, here we go.

It's a Deadpool

deck of plants.

I love the Merc with the Mouth.

So this is the case.

Are you a fan of Deadpool, Claire?

Have you ever seen the Deadpool films?

I've never seen any

Deadpool ever.

Oh.

So you don't know the sort of thing.

He's such a smart mouth.

He's such a smart ass.

I know he cusses.

He's cussing a lot.

He's like, well, he's cussing a lot.

I'll tell you what, he's always got something to say about everything.

And it's like so sarcastic.

He's snarky.

He's flat out snarky, to be honest.

But I actually hate.

I love him.

Brian loves the Deadpool movies, and I hate the Deadpool movies.

And I actually hate Ryan Reynolds because I think he's too much.

I think he's too much like Deadpool.

That's how he wants to be that same sort of way.

And also, the main reason I hate him, though, is because he's from Vancouver.

He's my favorite guy from Vancouver.

And so I feel like people are always like, oh, Ryan Reynolds.

Oh, you're from Vancouver?

Ryan Reynolds.

You know, it's like, we don't, you know, he's, he's not, he's pretty beloved by like older ladies and stuff here, but he's not like considered like the cool Vancouver guy or anything.

Yeah, he is.

He's my favorite.

Do you think he's the most twisted guy from Vancouver?

Well, honestly, like,

yeah,

he's got some of the most sick comedic ideas out of the people.

He's got a crazy sense of humor.

Now I just thought of who would be the cool guy from Vancouver, and I really...

This guy from Lululemon.

It's Chip Wilson.

Chip Wilson from Lululemon.

Chip Wilson from Lululemon.

I tried to get him on my live show in Vancouver.

I called him on his personal cell phone number, and he was very upset with me.

Yeah.

This guy goes, this person, sometimes it's the little things.

I was shocked.

This was my grandson's favorite Christmas gift.

This is a five-star review.

With all those expensive gifts we gave him, these playing cards were the big hit.

LOL.

He is Deadpool crazy.

His bedroom is decorated with Deadpool stuff.

I bought the playing cards as a stocking suffer, but it turns out he was thrilled.

That's a great feeling.

It is.

There's no better feeling than that I can imagine than getting your child a gift that they just love.

We just bought Charlie from Ikea a little tent and the tube thing, you know, like the tube tent that he can

run.

Yeah, like it's a kid tent, but it has the little like whatever thing that he can run through.

Yeah, exactly.

And he fucking loves it so much.

He crawls through the little thing and he sits in there and lounges and reads his book and it's got a little window.

And even that is a great feeling.

And he can't even like elucidate to me that I like this and this is great.

And it already feels good.

Finally, last review.

Five stars from Jay.

Amazing quality and detail must have.

Chris, I think this is one you'll love.

Deadpool himself would love these cards.

They're on the left.

I already know this is going to annoy the shit out of me.

Deadpool himself would love these cards.

They're on the quality level of bicycle cards, and the designs are great.

The only thing that I was disappointed about was that they didn't have Peter

as the face on any of the cards.

Hopefully, they do another Deadpool card set, and Papa Bear will get his due.

Who's

Delaney?

Who?

Rob Delaney's character in Deadpool?

Rob Delaney from Jimmy Kim Alive, stand-up from Jimmy Kim Alive.

Is that what you're talking about?

I know him from his stand-up set on Jimmy Kim Alive.

Same guy.

Okay.

Yeah, so they wanted him to.

What's he in the movie?

His name's Peter.

And so he's a regular guy.

But they want him in the deck of cards?

They are just a big deal.

The joke is that he's Deadpool's friend.

Let me explain it to you guys real quick.

In Deadpool 2, there's a scene where Deadpool gets a whole team together.

And they're jumping out of an airplane for some reason.

And they jump out of the airplane, and all the guys in the gang die, except Peter, who is just some normal guy.

Oh, yeah.

I did see Deadpool 2.

I just deleted it from my mind quickly.

And now Peter is in Deadpool versus Wolverine.

Yeah.

Deadpool and Wolverine, because he's, so he's like a character.

So he's like important.

He's like Deadpool's right-hand man, kind of, but the joke is that he's not a superhero at all.

He's super normal.

Is that the idea?

Deadpool will call him Papa Bear sometime.

Oh, that's cool.

It is.

It's funny.

Yep.

You guys, I mean, you don't know how good it is.

You just haven't seen it yet.

So that is playing card, guys.

It was a lot of fun.

It was very hard to prep.

So

it just seems like mentally sort of tacticing to go through these

conversations.

He's patting himself on the back

saying, like, oh, I had to do so much research and dig so deep to get this.

He wants everyone to say, oh, thank you, Brian, for doing the research.

So let's say, Brian, thank you so much for doing the research for the show.

Thank you for going online.

Thank you for going online, Brian.

And thank you for making the time, as we discussed.

You only have, I want to say, 14 to 15 free hours in a day.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

I got a lot to do.

In between Legos and

Legos.

What else do you get up to?

What are some of the other stuff you get up to?

Sucking titties, toilet clogging.

clogging, sucking titties.

Started like that.

Don't bring up titties and stuff.

We just got to the end of the episode.

Claire embarrassing me in front of the guests.

I mean, I could have guessed.

Yeah.

Oh, I mean, I know.

Well,

okay.

Claire, this comes out on July 15th.

Do you have anything you'd like to plug?

I guess listen to the podcast that I'm on called Corators with uh

two guys.

So your listeners might be familiar with that sort of aspect.

I believe we've had both of those guys on our podcast as well.

I believe you have, Alex and Jeremy.

Um I'm not really doing stand-up anymore, so don't worry about that.

And uh I'm I'm moving to Los Angeles at the end of July, so maybe I'll be out there.

If you see me on the street, just give me a compliment on uh whatever expensive t-shirt I'm wearing.

Also, don't do the cards thing in front of her.

She doesn't like it.

Yeah, leave her alone

if you got your cards to do.

That's too bad that you've.

I quit doing stand-up as well, Claire.

You know, it's.

But the thing about it, and tell me if you feel the same way, it's like, you know, you hang it up, but you'll always be part of the brotherhood and you'll always be

part of the chosen few.

I'll always be a card in that deck.

I will always be a card in the deck of stand-up comedy.

Brian, you could go ahead and end the podcast.

That's the end of the show.

See you all next week.

Goodbye.

Bye.