Alison Brie asks about changing your personality

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Welcome to the Handsome Pod.

I am here.

I'm Mae Martin.

I'm one of your hosts.

I'm joined by Dignotaro.

I am also a host.

Oh, what's your name?

I'm Fortune Beamster.

I think I'm also a host.

Absolutely.

We all are.

I see.

I think it's safe to say at this point you're one of the hosts.

You guys, the host with the most.

Well, that's not for you.

No, all of us.

We're the hosts.

Oh, okay.

And you just can hear the S

hosts.

You know, it's fine.

I'm not terribly competitive.

Yeah.

I'll be honest.

No.

Except when Stephanie wants to play 20 questions.

Then my competitive side comes out.

What is 20 questions?

I don't think of that as a very competitive game, but.

Well, her mother pointed it out yesterday because Stephanie is so good.

Like if you say, oh,

there is

a comedian that

has,

you know, moved

whatever, some sort of, you put out some sort of information.

And then Stephanie will be like, oh, can I guess who it is?

And I'll be like, sure.

Or I'll be like, oh, so-and-so started dating so-and-so.

You know, how I love to gossip.

And she goes,

she'll say, can I ask 20 questions?

And then I'll say, sure.

Tell to like figure out who it is.

Yeah.

And so

we will play that very, she's so good.

It's stupid.

And so the other morning, her mother was here with us and we're having coffee, chatting.

Something comes up.

Stephanie says, can we play 20 questions?

Sure.

We're playing.

And then Stephanie's mother's like, whoa, gosh, you're just as competitive as Stephanie.

And I was like, what do you mean?

And I realized when she pointed this out that if Stephanie asks a question

and then she asks something on top of that question, I'm like, that's your fourth question.

That's not like part of your third question.

Right, right.

And so I get really competitive with this because Stephanie is, she's so competitive.

She's so good at it.

But in general, I'm just not terribly competitive.

Like,

I'm just not terribly competitive.

Right.

I can see that.

I can be like,

you're like, yeah, so what?

I'm lost.

Who cares?

Yeah.

I'm like, lost, Who cares?

No, like I remember doing long distance cycling sometimes for charity.

And some people, even though it's not a race, some people still race.

And I was dead last.

And it was a four-day ride.

Ooh, four days.

Was that the AIDS life cycle?

Was it the

one of them was, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

But it's like 100 mile days that you're cycling.

Did your booty not hurt?

I mean, it it does, but you also spend a lot of time training.

And so you're building up to that moment.

You're not just getting on your bike.

Yeah.

I just picture just getting on the bike and be like, I guess we're doing this.

Yeah.

But you came dead last and you were like, yeah, whatever.

I had the experience.

I came dead last, but I mainly came dead last because I blew out one of my knees.

And you know, those like clip-in

bike shoes in the pedal?

Yeah.

I rested my foot of the busted knee on the fork of my bike and used the other one to pedal nearly 50 miles.

Whoa.

And I kept picturing that my right thigh was going to be three times the size of my left foot by the time I reached Portland, Maine.

But that's not the only time.

I just, in general, I just, I don't, I don't, I just don't feel

work,

sports, any, any of that kind of stuff.

I'm just like, I just don't, I don't feel it.

Yeah.

I think you should introduce,

instead of 20 questions, I'd play hide the peanut, where one person hides a peanut metaphorically somewhere in the universe, and then you have yes or no questions to find this peanut.

It could be in the past, the present, the future.

It could be in a fictional place, a real place.

And you'd be amazed how quickly you whittle down like the whole universe and find this peanut.

And you ha you have played this?

I play it all the time.

All the time.

Yeah, it's you gotta

try and pull May from the hide the peanut game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll hide one right now if you want.

Oh my lord.

I've hidden one.

I'm not good at it.

So we have to guess where it is.

Yeah, yes or no.

Is it in space?

No.

Is it on Earth?

Yeah.

Okay, then what is it?

That's how I am.

Is it in Los Angeles?

No.

Is it in california no england no is it in toronto yes

okay is it in the room with you now yes okay

juice

tell us just tell us no you're so close is it is it um

on

on your body

yes in a way i give up what is it

in a way

Well, Tig, we've narrowed it down so much.

I don't like games.

I mean, by we, I mean me, you've contributed enough.

I don't like games.

Where do you think I would keep a peanut?

In my person.

In your shoe.

Mm-mm.

In your ear.

Mm-mm.

Is it in your hat?

No.

Mouth.

Think about the pod.

Oh, under, behind a picture frame.

No.

Think about the pod.

Ponte's.

It's in your ponies.

Ponies, Ponty's.

It's in the pod.

Look at that.

I got it.

Look at that.

I thought you were going to be useless, and then you really came through at the end.

That's truly how I play with Stephanie when she's like wanting to do 20 questions with me, you know?

And then I'll guess and things.

I'm like,

what is it?

What is it?

I don't swear.

You just give up.

Yeah.

I think I want to.

There's a lot of games that I used to play that I've not played in many, many years.

And then I want to come back to playing again.

Like what?

Hopscotch.

Hopscotch.

Any board game, and people will mention board games.

I'm like, oh, I don't remember how that goes.

Uno, I don't remember how that was played.

Yeah, me neither, actually.

Uno.

I don't know, just any kind of game.

I wonder if we could make a handsome board game that's like Monopoly, but all the places are, you know, there's a pontoon, you can, or

you know, a button factor.

Actually, if anyone's listening and wants to make

if anyone is listening to this pod, let us know.

I love that song.

Papa, can you hear me?

Papa, can you hear me?

I should text Philip and ask Little Big Town to do a question.

Oh, yeah, and tell him that Handsome's favorite pontoon song is on the pontoon.

Well, why don't we get

Barbara Streisand to ask a question?

We don't have any contact with Barbara Street.

Yeah, what brought up Barbara Streisand?

Because of Yentel, Papa, can you hear me?

Oh.

Yeah, but we have to have some sort of in.

I just did with Babs.

Oh, my God.

If Babs sent in a video.

I'd die.

Hello, Hanson.

That would be...

That's impossible, right?

I think it's impossible.

She's

not really wanting to talk to anybody.

I feel like it's actually more impossible than, say, Obama, Paul McCartney, like the big name.

Like, Babs is really unreachable, I think.

Oh, probably.

She has like a mall in her house.

Yeah.

Where she can go.

She has a mall in her basement where she can go shopping for antique dolls, I think.

Like there's shops.

Yeah, my friends have been there.

Because

I did this show called Life in Pieces.

It was on CBS a few years back, and her husband was on the show.

Barbara invited the ladies of the show, but the series regulars, to their freaking house for lunch when they were doing the show, and they got to take a tour and see all this stuff.

and I couldn't believe it.

Oh my gosh!

I was not a

recurring character, but not a series regular, so I wasn't in that.

But I would have died to go.

Imagine having a mall in your mall in your house.

I would have been

very confused.

I'm so confused.

This never cloned her dog, I think, right?

She cloned her dog multi-I can understand that.

I can't understand having a mall in your house.

Well, she wants to have a normal experience, and she can't just go to the mall.

And that's a normal experience, is having a mall in your house.

Memories like the corner of my mind.

I stand by guilty.

I don't remember the words.

i'm amazed that she's not the pod

jealousy now is a jam tag you're right oh my god guilty and my favorite favorite line or part of the song is that make it a crime to be lonely or sad make it a crime yeah make it a crime have the police pull over and lock you up

are you lonely or sad this is illegal

but are they cheating on their spouses and they're saying we got we we don't have to be guilty is that what it's about?

I think it's about an affair and they're like oh no

sorry

I'm gonna Google this.

Yeah

is Babs guilty yeah should Babs be guilty

I got an update for you guys

Well, I don't know if it was on a mini sod or if I was talking about how I have a foosball table.

Did I tell you guys that?

Yeah, and my friend Matt, who lives in my back house, he's like incredible at foosball.

And I've played him thousands of times.

I've only beat him three times.

And it's really something he's good at.

And so I googled, he's new to LA.

I found a foosball competition in Angel City Brewery.

And it's the only one in LA.

It's every Thursday.

And I was like, Matt, we should sign up.

And Boy, do we take it seriously.

Every morning he's like, hey, buddy, do you mind practicing with me?

Like, he was really driven.

And

we got dressed up.

The day came.

We were nervous.

I was like, we're going to be on their turf, whoever these foosball people are.

Turf.

Yeah, like they could be like jocks or savants, like foosball savants.

Anyway, guys,

we won the tournament.

What?

You know why?

Why?

Because no one else showed up.

Oh, my God.

Congrats, man.

It was so embarrassing.

Wow.

It was more embarrassing than losing was just waiting there with the sign up sheet at the bar we signed up and just no one came and so me and matt just played dang

where's the foosball community where well do you know the comedian kelsey cook kelsey cook y'all might not have crossed past she lives in minneapolis now she used to live in la but she is an incredible foosball player and plays really like tournaments and stuff so really you know so is lisa gilroy and uh but she wins largely because her shit talk is is so funny that you're like doubled over.

She does this thing where she goes, You want it, you want it, well, you can't have it.

So, you're telling me Lisa Gilroy is funny?

Oh man,

you want it, you want it, but you can't have it.

I and you can't, like, your muscles get weak from laughing.

It's a really good, but she is also a great player.

I like that, the sh the um table shuffle board game, you know, at a bar.

Yeah,

The big long one that you do with your hands

with the salts.

I love those.

There's like salt on the board or whatever.

Oh, to make it slide.

It helps it slide.

I love that game.

Maybe I have to get one of those.

Are you going for a full-on Bachelor Pad map, May?

It's becoming.

Did you almost call me Max?

I don't know.

I just, my mouth is moving and sounds come out.

I don't know.

It's becoming Pee-Wee's Playhouse, my house.

I bought a Zoltar machine.

What is that?

You know, like from Big that Tells Your Fortune?

And it's Zoltar.

Oh.

Do you have one of those in your house?

I thought I'd ordered a full size.

It shows up.

It's this big.

It's like.

You want it full size.

I wanted full size.

I think the smaller one's better, no?

Why?

Because it's smaller.

Some giant head.

I want the giant one.

Funny.

I got to come to this bachelor pet at some point to see what's happening over there.

I'll get that shuffle board game if it'll make you come.

I mean, that sounds

very mature over here.

You're so pure.

So

are you loving this house?

It seems like this was a good investment, huh?

I'm loving this house.

Yeah, I really am.

And it feels like home now, because I had asked you in the early days, is it feeling like home?

You said no.

Yeah, it is feeling like home.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

like a real homeowner, like stuff is breaking and then I got to get it fixed.

And I kind of like it all.

It's such a, I'm jealous of that feeling of

the beginning of trying to make a house feel like a home.

Like it's such a fun, new experience.

Yeah, it really is.

Where you like go to bed at night at first and you're like, oh, this is a strange room.

This is, where am I?

And then boom, one day you are home.

Yeah, yeah.

And no one can kick you out.

No landlord's going to say

as long as you sell your mills.

Well, I mean, did you buy your house outright?

Because people could.

What do you mean?

No.

Do you have a mortgage?

Yeah.

They could kick you out if you don't.

Yeah, you have to keep paying.

But I'm, who's going to kick me out?

The bank?

Yeah.

Yes, they will.

Yeah, I guess.

I mean I'll pay the warrior check.

Hey,

this is mine.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

I already bought this.

Get out of my house, bank.

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I still have so many things not on the walls at my house, and I've been here two and a half years.

Yes, maybe you need some big art, some like a big giant.

Well, I don't know if I'll end up selling this place, and I kind of want something smaller.

Right.

It's too big, and now it's just me, so you want to move into my back house with Matt and his girlfriend?

Well, that's definitely too small.

I would like,

my last house I adored.

It was the best and I made it exactly how I wanted it.

But it was a little too small.

So I want something in between these two.

It's a good, like, fresh start.

I mean, I was post-breakup, bought the house, and it was distracting and felt empowering to, like, make your space your own.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not in a hurry.

It might not be anytime soon, but at some point.

Tell us that you're going to bring that fake plant with you.

If you move on to the bottom of the camp

everywhere with me.

I love

the first thing.

This is how I'm zhuzhing up my Zoom box.

Where do I put my plastic plant?

I might

make this other room in here a little handsome spot with a chair and everything.

You guys just wait to see.

What do you mean a handsome spot?

Like a little corner of this room.

I might put like a chair and like hang something up on the wall.

Definitely the fake plant.

But I mean, handsome, meaning when you record handsome.

When I record, that will be my spot.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Right now I'm just at my desk, but I might make a designated handsome spot.

Do you think you'll ever move, Tig?

Like when the boys go off to college or whatever?

Would you guys move?

We have talked about,

yeah.

potentially selling our house when they graduate and just moving back into our our office, which is, you know, just a little bungalow

that we love very much.

It's kind of a sexy, vodka office.

It's, it's, yeah, it's unusual, the layout, and there's like, yeah, it's, it's stained glass and stuff, right?

It's beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We really love it there.

And, um, and our, and we love where we live now.

We just have, I don't know if I've mentioned this or not, but we have never

like

done our house because we moved in when Max and Finn were one, and they were so nuts that we didn't even have furniture in the living room for the first

like till they were two.

You never like adultified the house, no.

And then by the time they finally kind of calmed down, we never put art on the walls.

We just, we were, we just had these two little lunatics running around.

And then by the time they kind of pulled it together, it was a pandemic.

And then we couldn't even deal with, you know,

doing doing our house or having somebody come in.

And then, so now we're getting to that place where we're like, Max and Finn are so chill and the pandemic's over.

And let's actually do something with

our house.

Did you ever watch those like extreme home makeover shows where like they always they ask the kids what they're into and then they'll say one thing and then they'll turn the room and like they'll go i kind of like horses and then they'll run with it and they'll turn the bedroom into like a barn.

And the kid's always like, okay, I don't know if I'm that into horses.

Yeah,

maybe I'll redo your house.

You tell me what you're into, and then I'll surprise you with Zoltar.

Yeah, Stephanie wouldn't, that wouldn't fly with her.

She's not chill

with what is in the house.

So I don't, I know right away Zoltar wouldn't fly.

Or any surprises.

Yeah, okay.

Not one surprise will fly.

I mean, to be fair, I don't know that I'd want Zoltar in the house.

Yeah, that's fair.

Maximpin might be into him.

Yeah, I think for sure.

But maybe you could surprise them and put one in their.

Well, they each have their own room.

That's two full-size Zoltars.

That's great.

Should we get into our question?

Yes.

I'm really excited about today's question ask.

I feel like this has been a long time coming because this is a friend of the pod, Allison

Oh, I already gave away her name, but today's a name.

Still a friend.

Still a handful of her.

Still her friend.

Still Alison Bree.

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Nice.

Hi, handsomes.

Alison Bree here.

Huge fan.

Tig, May,

Fortune, big fan of all three of you.

Huge fan of the pod.

Okay, this is Otis.

My question is:

was there ever a time

was there ever a time in your life where you

consciously decided to try on a different personality

and

how did it go i'll give you an example that's not my answer which is that a friend of mine in high school switched schools um like sophomore year and at the other school she went by her middle name and just had like a totally different personality.

And then when she left that school, she just went back to using her regular name, her first name.

Have you ever done anything like that?

And how'd it go?

First of all, I did not realize

that Allison Bree was going to be a part of Kitty City.

Yeah, she's in Kitty City game.

Yeah.

Otis.

Otis was really getting in there.

I know.

And I loved her attention to Otis when he came in for kisses when she was mid-question.

I mean, she's got her normal cat.

Is that normal cat behavior?

I thought they were more standoffish.

They can be standoffish, but man, can they be snuggly lovey-dovey?

And all three of our cats are very standoffish and lovey-dovey.

I've never had a cat.

Otis had like a almost a dog vibe.

That's a kind of a dog name, Otis.

And then, yeah, he was, yeah.

I love that question because I'm constantly paranoid that I'm accidentally changing my personality.

Like,

I feel like I have a loose grip on my personality and I'm up for it changing.

Is sort of, is it

easily influenced?

Not as much anymore, but definitely as a teenager.

Oh my God.

Like, and

really similar experience was I would go to summer camp every summer and I'd kind of decide who I was going to be or see when I got there, like, what would be most useful socially.

And I think I've said this on the pod, but I went to camp one summer and I go, Yeah, I'm May, but uh, everybody calls me maple sugar.

And everyone's like, No, they don't.

I'm like,

no one called me that, and it didn't catch on.

And then I was always acting really tortured and kind of mysterious, and like, yeah, I got some stuff going on back home, you know.

And wait, what made you think maple

sugar?

Would you say Maple Sugar?

Maple Sugar.

Maple Sugar was cool?

I think because May Pearl is my first name.

Yes.

And which I love.

Thanks.

I think it was because

it was middle school.

So it was just in the two-year period where I had long hair, the only time in my life.

And I think I was keenly aware that I...

I was not feminine enough.

Like, and all these cool girls were in my cabin.

And I thought, maple sugar sounds kind of like a cool femme name.

like I would maybe be a cheerleader or something and I did not fall give it up for maple sugar y'all

it's such a long nickname too like it's like a drag name yeah

they call me this sentence yeah

you think you were like telling people you had a lot of stuff going on back home hoping they would be like what's going on tell tell us like like an attention thing yeah would you tell them what was going on or would you make up like well my dad's a bandit and uh i think i did lie quite a bit in around that time like middle school era like i definitely had a fake boyfriend and um

but it was don't we all don't we all it was like it was this friend of mine cliff cardinal he wrote me a letter at camp and then i decided to pretend that the letter was like my from he was just my friend like a lawyer i had a crush on him yeah and i pretended it was like there's some stuff going on with with my boyfriend.

Like, he's having a tough time.

And I wouldn't let anyone read the letter.

Yeah.

You guys would not believe what is in this.

Yeah.

And then burning it really quick so no one can read it.

It's very private.

Don't even ask.

And the letter was like, hey, bro, hope you're having a good time.

Yeah.

What about you guys?

Like, I take, I feel like you were genuinely to your core that cowboy person.

so you weren't it wasn't it wasn't an affectation no I mean I definitely leaned more into it and you know I

I was I was a little rebel

um

chip on my shoulder I've you know I'm still working through all of it as an adult yeah you got to have your you have to have your little shell to protect you and use your whatever personality, part of your personality to hide everything.

So

yeah, but I was really, you know, the kid that was off in the woods and in the creek and smoking and failing and sneaking out of the house and doing all that, you know, driving around in the car without a license when I could barely look over the steering wheel.

Like, that is all factual.

I have many people that can back up all of this information about me.

But

I would say, like, on an unfortunate, kind of like,

really unfortunate level, the times that I have changed my personality has been when I've felt fearful, you know, in like a public bathroom or something.

You know, you get like weird looks, or you know, how do you, who are you?

How do you identify?

And I've noticed myself sometimes trying to like femme it up a little bit when I go in the bathroom, you know.

And then I just think, God, it's so pathetic that

I would have to

do that.

Yeah.

So

no real funny story there.

But

yeah, that's really the time that I notice it the most.

And that's a point that I always use to people that, you know, any sort of confusion somebody has around

trans people or non-binary people,

it's like...

It ends up policing all women.

Everybody.

as well everybody everybody you know and so yeah, it's it's just a weird little moment in life where I'm like excuse me

not really excuse me I'm just trying to get in the stall I just have to go pee-pee

I can't believe I didn't wear my dress today because it'd be so much easier to just fling that thing up in the air I've been called sir in several bathrooms and I'm like really

you get called sir yeah i've i've had a woman once in an airport bathroom be like this is the women's restroom i'm like yep

i know i've said the same thing i'm like oh that works out perfectly yeah yeah it's that is it always feels like a minefield to me constantly on guard um did you guys ever when you first started comedy like and you're in in love with comedy and you're in green rooms with more experienced comedians like try to adopt the persona of a comedian almost, like, like, yeah, good, good set.

Yeah, I like the tag.

Like, oh,

you know what I mean?

Like, I, I was so excited to be part of that community that I'm sure I was, like,

you know, with my little notebook and trying to.

And then dropping your voice a little, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice, nice, sweet.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That doesn't feel familiar.

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Fortune, what about going to college after living in a small town?

Like,

that's a chance to be a different person.

Yeah, I was like cognizant of

like not changing too much because

my mom she listens to this like oh why are you bringing this up but my mom used to back in the day whenever she would after my parents divorced she went through a couple relationships and in those relationships she significantly changed to um

be who she thought that that

that those particular men wanted her to be.

So that always bugged me

because I was just, I didn't understand it.

I was young, and I was like, why are you being somebody you're not?

And in the most extreme version of that, one was he was very conservative.

I talked about this in my sweet and salty special where he just, like, my family had gone to Hooters their whole life, and he just was like, oh, yeah, yeah, not into that stuff.

And she was like, I have never been to Hooters in front of them.

And

although I have been to cooters

and even though that story is very funny it's based on her completely changing for this person yeah um so i always had that in the back of my head of like not veering too far off um but you know when you're young you're still kind of trying to find yourself So you have to sort of try on different hats to see like, well, who am I?

And so

younger days, sports was a big part of my personality.

But then in college, I had this weird thing.

I hung out with a lot of church-going people.

And so I kind of tried that on for a while.

Like,

I'm a church gal.

And yeah, that was probably the most, the biggest swing away from my personality.

But you do love the Lord, right?

I love the Lord.

You're just looking for community right now.

I think I was looking for community and my family was pretty fractured at the time.

My grandmother had just passed and I was a bit lost.

So

my grandmother died the day after I moved into college.

So I was experiencing this

brand new school.

I didn't know anybody.

I was lost.

I was sad.

And so those are the times when you're the most susceptible to any influence.

And so I met some really great people

who were religious and kind of was like, well, let me see what they're doing.

I like hanging out with them.

And their church was all about family and stuff.

And I think it like

made me want family and crave

that.

And so I thought, well, if I do that, then I can have, I can create a family for myself one day and just, you know, eventually realize that, oh, this is not me at all.

But,

yeah, and then I tried like theater

in college too.

And maybe I'm a theater kid, and I liked it, but it wasn't.

And the irony is that I act now, but I'm not a theater kid.

Really?

I feel like you got some theater kid.

You like a musical.

I love a musical.

But you know, that dramatic, like,

expressing yourself in

big ways.

I'm not quite that.

And so then when I moved to, when I eventually moved to LA, it was when I came out, I think,

was like anything up until coming out was like, I'm sort of blown with the wind here.

Yeah.

I come out and then I'm like, oh,

I know,

I know who I am.

And I'm, and it just set me on this journey of like, like, being so much more comfortable in my own skin,

doing what I wanted to do, not trying to fit in elsewhere.

Or, you know, it just, that was the thing that really set me on my path.

You took off your bonnet and took off my, and then, and I would say, right in this present day time,

going through all the changes I'm going through, the one thing I've realized is I know myself better than I ever have, and I am so much clearer on what I want

That's great.

I've ever been.

I guess it keeps changing your whole life till you croak, right?

Yeah, and that fluidity is so important.

Yeah.

When you started doing comedy, did you guys try different?

Like, I feel like I just impersonated other comedians sometimes.

If I got excited about us, like I like trying to be like Bill Hicks or whatever when I was like 14, and that's like, that's not me.

Oh, my gosh.

Can you get me some video of you 14

doing your best, Bill Hicks?

Well, I used to smoke cigarettes on stage because you could still do that.

When you were 14?

Yes.

And I did one time get booed off stage.

And do you have footage of this?

Because I'm going to need to see it.

You got booed off stage because they didn't like you smoking?

It was a New Year's Eve show.

I was 16 and me and my.

Boyfriend at the time did like two-person stand-up.

He was much older.

We said we were siblings.

It was weird.

But anyway, we were smoking and we were just very misanthropic and negative.

And we didn't realize that people had paid for this $100 for this New Year's Eve gala.

And everyone was making a real effort.

And we'd barely prepared anything.

And we were smoking.

We thought we were so cool.

And everyone is like, why is this child smoking?

And what?

And so they started going, nah, enough.

And they were right.

They were

like enough.

Get enough.

First of all, why aren't children smoking?

I don't know.

As a child, I don't know how.

Like, we were watching a movie the other night with Max and Finn,

and there was chewing tobacco

that some of the kids in the movie were chewing.

And Max and Finn are like, what is chewing tobacco?

They're nine, and I was chewing tobacco.

I was dipping.

I was smoking.

If I couldn't get my hands on any of that stuff, I would roll coffee grounds in typing paper.

I was just like, how on earth?

I'm truly looking at them like they are aliens.

You don't know what chewing tobacco is?

But these younger generations are much more pure than we were, I think.

It's not in, it's not in movies as much.

Like, what were you watching?

The sand lot kids or something?

Yeah, we were watching the sand lot.

Yeah.

Oh, look at it.

I want to rewatch it.

I used to watch the sand lot back in the day.

Yeah.

But they're, they're just like, and they have, they have questions about cigarettes.

And I'm like,

yeah, I guess I don't know where they would have ever run off and experimented with anything like that, but because my parents were certainly not keeping an eye on me, but cigarettes are way more taboo now than back then.

Back then, I felt like people just smoked all the time.

It was taboo for me to be eight smoking cigarettes.

Well, eight for

me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's wild.

My parents smoked in the house, and yeah, it was very it was.

I mean, it was every restaurant you go to, and yeah,

but

did you not miss those days?

Did you always have the same style on stage, or in the beginning, were you like, hey, everybody, what's up?

I'm Take, I gotta,

I can't imagine that.

Yeah, I

feel like,

I mean, I was so influenced by Paula Poundstone.

I always, I love

Paula Poundstone's ability to write

just

such a solid, silly joke, and then also be able to do the most tremendous crowd interaction.

All the crowd work is unbelievable.

I mean, unreal.

And I mean, I used to, she was the one comedian I would always go see.

I would never miss a Paula Poundstone concert, no matter where I lived, no matter how old I was.

Really?

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And she's just ridiculous.

But

that was my goal was to be a good storyteller, joke writer, and be able to interact with the audience.

And I don't know that I ever felt like, oh, I'm just a carbon copy of Paula Poundstone.

You know, I was never in like suspenders and a bow tie or anything like that, which thank God she's still wearing to this day.

She has not.

She is Paula Poundstone through and through.

She was born in suspenders.

Oh my God.

This person is Paula Poundstone.

I mean, her name says what she, I don't, I don't,

you know what I mean?

Like,

you've got to be a comedian.

Yeah.

You are Paula Poundstone.

This is Paula Poundstone.

Anyway, you know, I certainly had moments, like I was very, in like more recent comedy

influence, I certainly loved

Mitch Hedberg.

Yes.

I mean, you know, even though I wasn't...

Dry.

Yeah, it just spoke to me.

It definitely spoke to me.

It takes confidence, I think, to sit, to be okay with silence, to be slow like that.

And so I feel like it would take it.

Yeah,

I'm still not there where I can do that.

But like, did it take you a while to settle and to know you had the skill to like sit in that and then pull people out of it?

Well, I think for myself, like as a comedian, all the different things I've tried from joke writing to storytelling, I've done prop stuff,

not like in a traditional way of like I roll out

a case of

yeah.

But

I want to try everything.

And then I feel like all of those roads that you go down, you still,

even if it's such a leap from another type of comedy, you still find your voice in there.

And I think that that's what I realized was every road I went down, here's my voice.

Here's my voice.

So I can do whatever I want to do.

You know what I liked?

I just, I keep talking about it because I'm obsessed, but the Pee-Wee Herman documentary, the Paul Rubens documentary, I didn't realize that Pee-Wee started as a character who was

a stand-up comedian who was doing it for the first time and showing and had props that were his toys.

He was kind of like

almost like a child stand.

So he was in the Pee-Wee suit and he'd go out and do bad stand-up and pull out like, you know, a dinosaur toy and show the audience and stuff but i love that that that was the genesis yeah yeah i think he started at the groundlings yeah you gotta watch that dock i'll have to check it out i for sure want to see that and by the way when i was in nantucket multiple people were coming up to me to talk about your dock

oh really yeah they were coming up going hey i just saw tig's dock and i wept throughout and i was like great yeah people are talking about it you find that they uh oh the new new, I was thinking of TIG.

I was thinking of

the Andrea Gibson documentary.

I want to see it.

You will.

We're going to have a screening in LA and then Apple bought it.

So we're all

very excited that it's going to reach a wider audience.

But it's, man, is it life-affirming?

And it really, I say to everyone, you.

It's impossible to not walk out of that theater and think, what have I been doing with my life?

I mean, true, but like in the most inspiring, exciting way.

Of course, you have all these emotions about Andrea and their partner, Meg, and

all these intense, deep, but also so, so many funny moments.

But it's just so beautiful and it's just still killing it on the festival circuit.

It's crazy.

It's crazy, crazy, crazy.

Yeah, well, I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

Yeah, yeah.

Thanks for bringing that up because

tell your friends if you've seen it because it's really worth seeing and so much like

so perfectly time

for a big heaping pile of compassion in this world.

Yes.

Is what I've seen happen through this film.

I kind of feel like...

Because it is mainly teenagers and kids that are trying on different personalities like that.

And I kind of feel like that's

a pretty healthy way to be because

we're not our personalities.

Like that is, even if it's so authentic to you and not on purpose, it is sort of a performance or it's an accumulation of influences and experiences.

And there is like a core.

Anyway, I just think maybe we should all be a bit more fluid about our personalities.

You could wake up tomorrow, brand new day, you go, I'm really sarcastic today, or like I'm, I'm going to be a ray of sunshine.

And yeah.

Well, you don't really know how you feel about something or if you're into something unless you try it.

So I'm always like,

like, I always think, especially younger people, like, why not sign up for this thing or join this club or play that sport or be in that play?

Like, give it a shot.

And I stand by, there is nothing better than finding out what you cannot stand and who you are not.

Yeah.

Even more so than who you are.

You know, like, I love finding out the stuff I, I never want to do again, or I don't want to be in that world,

you know, or whatever, whatever it is.

I'm like, I love that as much as I love finding things that I, that make me happy.

Yeah.

Like, we tell ourselves so young, we start telling ourselves stories about ourselves.

Like, I'm bad at math, or like, I'm, you know, I'm funny, or I'm, you know, and then that's like a little coffin for yourself, you know, you gotta break out of it.

I do stand by.

I am bad at math.

And

my brain just oozes out of my ears as soon as I look at X plus Y times the blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

Blah, blah.

You just get a handle on math in school, and then they introduce letters and words to it.

And it's like

Y.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And now my mom is being totally herself, but she has also been single for a very long time.

That's there's something to be said for the single life in terms of really being yourself.

Yeah, yeah.

Has your mother ever gotten on apps to date?

She did it back in the day.

I think when she met her first boyfriend after divorce,

it wasn't in an app, but they used to put ads in the newspaper.

That's

so crazy.

Yeah, no pictures.

There's nothing.

You're just looking at each other's grammar.

But yeah, I believe they met that way.

Didn't there used to be a thing where you can leave a voicemail that's like, hi, I'm May.

I like, you know.

I think maybe back in the day there was something like that.

And wait a minute.

Right.

So people would put an ad in the paper and you don't have a clue what this person looks like.

Yeah.

No.

You just show up and there is someone that likes piña coladas and getting caught in the rain.

And yeah, I when I first came out, Craigslist was super popular, especially.

I don't know if it was just in LA, but everybody was on Craigslist at the time.

And I found like a soccer team and a softball league.

I found Ultimate Frisbee.

I'm still friends with some of the people I met during these Craigslist days.

But I went on a couple dates via Craigslist ads, and it was the no picture days.

And was it,

was it shocking when you arrived?

I mean, not one person was, it wasn't even about looks, but not one person was my type or had anything in common.

I went on three dates.

Could not get out of all of them fast enough.

Yeah.

And then I was like, I'm not doing this again.

Do you know what?

I think I'm remembering this story correctly, correctly, but of course, who knows?

But let's just assume I am.

You know the comedian and writer Jesse Klein?

Oh, actually.

Okay, she's so funny.

But she, she, um, I ran into her.

I can't remember where I ran into her, but this is several years ago.

She saw a guy in like an airport or a grocery store or something.

Probably, you know what?

Probably an airport.

I think they were running to their flights.

And she thought to herself,

what if he saw me and felt the same?

Because she thought she saw a little some

look in each other's eye type thing.

He put an ad in the paper and they reconnected.

No.

Wow.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

This is an actual story.

And

they weren't a match ultimately.

I think he was like a tennis player.

I can't believe I remember the details.

I was so blown away because they did not talk.

Wow.

They

haven't glanced.

You know the actor Coleman Domingo?

Yeah.

He has been with his husband now, I think, like 14 years.

They walked past each other on a street and like kind of both clocked each other and did.

I don't know, maybe it was Craigslist.

I don't, one of those sites, they put a misconnection in there and somehow they saw it.

Each

got together.

Yeah.

Wow.

That is crazy.

It's like a needle in a haystack.

That's like absolutely.

We got to bring that back.

The misconnections.

There must be a lot of things.

Why have we gotten off track?

There's no, there's nowhere for miss.

I don't know where people go for misconnections now.

There's no

website or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But that was a big thing on Craig's List too, was the whole misconnections.

Let's start a handsome misconnection website.

There we are.

We found it.

Oh, no.

Another thing on the list that I don't know if we're going to get to it.

Well, should we hear what Allison has to say, even though we went so far away?

That's what we do here.

That is what we do here.

That is the business we are in.

Allison, tell us.

Tell us.

Yeah, I've honestly probably done that a bunch, but a time that comes to mind is

when I was in college, I did a semester abroad in Glasgow, Scotland.

So I went to a really small school, Cal Arts.

It was super incestuous and gossipy.

And when I did this semester abroad at an even smaller school, the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama, I made a kind of decision to

just have a more free

personality, I guess.

I just didn't want to be self-conscious in in any way.

And I figured, you know, I'm just going to,

you know, I'm just going to be going to school with these people for like three to four months.

Who cares?

Like, what have I got to lose?

I should just be like the freest version of myself.

And

so I did.

I just would like.

The whole time I was in Glasgow, Scotland, I was having honestly the best time and

almost being like my truest self, literally, would, you know, with headphones in, I would dance down the streets, just dancing down the sidewalks.

And in class, I was always like the first person to,

oh my God, Maxie wants to be involved in this question as well.

The first person to volunteer to try something like improvised capoera, just like put me in, coach, like game for anything.

And the students there were like, Are you like this all the time?

And I was like,

No, not really.

But

once I did it, this semester, I would say the effect it had was

that I realized that that actually is kind of my truest self and my truest personality.

And so I just tried to kind of retain a lot of that in my life moving forward.

And I think, I think that I have.

It's a good way to be anyway.

Oh, that's great.

All right.

Love you.

Bye.

Love you, Mina.

Yeah.

And you come across people

in your life too that help bring that out of you as well.

That's always it is weird when somebody brings out a side of you that

you rarely to never see.

The goofiest side, the better.

Like I went to a dinner party with my friend Matt, and I guess we'd been very respectable at the dinner party, talking to people we'd never met, you know, getting to know people.

And then we left.

And as we were walking to the Uber, he goes, time to be weird.

And I was like, yes, that's what I want in a friend.

Oh, that's a great answer, though, from her.

Yeah.

Yeah, it is.

It's nice to feel free like that where you're like, just not really editing yourself.

And

I love Pummy and Coach.

I think about my days of attempting to be straight.

That was a fun.

That was a fun.

I can't accept that.

I can't accept that.

Hey, guys.

What are you doing?

That's what Tigs bathroom boys.

Yeah, we bump into each other in the bathroom.

Oh, excuse me.

Sorry on the date.

Oh, my God.

I love your flannel.

Where'd you get that, girl?

I love your lip taint.

We got it forever 21.

Sweet.

This is why I did not go on many dates with guys.

my best acting work to date i know i was gonna say that's so perfect for allison just like act like a whole different person yeah and then and then find out what parts of that you want to retain yeah like that yeah yeah yeah

well i was just gonna talk about what's next what we're what we're up to um I'm guest hosting Jimmy Kimmel, his late night talk show next week,

July 20, let's see, 22nd through 24th.

I'll be a late night talk show host for three nights.

That is so exciting.

Can you slip in a Keep It Handsome?

I know.

I gotta.

So I hope our handsome listeners will tune in.

I'm a little nervous, but very excited.

I'll be wearing some suits and interviewing some fun people.

Are you going to bring back your pink suit?

Not the pink suit.

I'm going to do something different, but

all right yeah i'm pumped this is a it's a really cool opportunity absolutely

can't wait to see and then i just have uh stand-up uh july 20th uh in edmonton with mate alane montreal july 26th

uh And then starting in September, San Antonio, Houston, Norfolk, Richmond, D.C.,

Atlanta, New Orleans, all those good places.

Excellent places.

I'll see you in Montreal.

Yeah, May and and I are doing a gala together in Montreal, which I love Montreal.

Oh my God, it's such a great city.

It's so great.

I'll be there also the night before on the 25th doing a show at the Olympia for just for laughs.

But other than that,

just check out.

I got two new songs out on my

Earnest music album, I'm a TV.

I got two new

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So they're on Spotify.

And spread the word, tell your pals.

What about you, Tig?

Well, I'd love to share with you.

August 17th, I'll be at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center in Westampton Beach, New York.

August 23rd, I'll be in P-Town at the Provincetown Town Hall.

And then September 27th, Beau Rivage Resort and Casino in Biloxi, Mississippi.

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