WNBA Salary Caps, Christian Rock & Going Commando

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Christian music is elevated.

Some of those songs are real good.

I mean, I'd be listening to them.

I actually don't listen to them, but I only listen to them on TikTok.

One that I really like is: I still bless you

in the middle of the storm.

Oh, I know,

I still bless you.

And I'm like, woo!

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I am the middle sister, Alona.

I'm the eldest daughter, Olivia.

And I'm the youngest, Ajana Maher.

And this week, a huge congratulations to Alona for your first SPs nomination.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Very exciting.

Huge, dude.

How did it feel when you heard?

I was like, oh, that's chill.

That's really cool.

It's funny.

It's for best breakthrough athlete, which, you know, I've been playing this for seven years now professionally, but, you know, it takes sometimes, it takes a lot to break through.

And I'm happy I was able to do it in my, you know, seventh year playing this.

But there have been some great athletes who've gotten in the past.

So really excited.

I've been voting and getting everybody to vote.

So we'll see.

I mean, I'm hoping to go and to get to just be in the room with some also great people.

Getting

dressed up.

Show off.

Show up and show off.

What do we think?

That's all I like to do.

You know, I like getting dressed up.

I like, you know, even though it's for sports, bringing the femininity, the beauty to it.

And, and, um, you know, I'm excited.

I love being in those spaces.

I love getting to meet people who are also like-minded, you know, who've worked hard.

And I think this is the first time rugby's ever been nominated in anything.

And to be a rugby, a women's rugby player, how kind of cool is that, you know?

And so you can vote.

The link will be in our social bios to go vote for Alona.

You can vote every day across multiple devices.

So, I'm going to need everybody to lock in and do that because lock in.

No one is more deserving because you've, that's so true about like you breaking through.

You've been breaking in and breaking through for so many years, but it's that same thing as like it takes many years to be an overnight success.

I kind of think of it as like best new artist at the Christmas.

No one is a new artist.

Like the whole thing of Sabrina Carpenter getting nominated after she just had, what, five, six albums.

It's, it's not that you're just a brand new rugby player.

It's just like you've had a breakthrough moment.

True.

Huge breakthrough moment.

True.

This is my Grammys.

This is your Grammys.

Your Espies.

Are you going to have a speech prepared or how does that work for you?

I don't really know what's happening, to be honest.

I think I will, maybe, but then I get worried that if you have a speech prepared,

you won't get it, you know?

You're jinxing yourself.

You're jinxing yourself, but also I think that I just would have some points that I'd really want to hit.

And so I would have at least some bullet points out there that I make sure to

mention.

I love it.

Be prepared, but not overly prepared.

Yeah, yeah.

Maybe not like it.

Respectful of it.

Yes.

Well, I'm not one to ever just like read word for word either.

So it'd just be bullets so that I can kind of like say things, but also be myself up there.

You're very good, just like off the off the head brain.

And

I do that a lot when I have meetings for you where, you know, like ahead of, you know, the the panels that you did in France and everything, they wanted to make sure you were prepped and you knew.

And I was like, honestly, don't tell her the questions.

She's better when she's just ripping away with whatever comes to her brain.

So I think that's kind of fun.

I think Juju Watkins won this last year.

Yes, I think so.

Yeah, yeah.

Right.

Okay.

So this is a very cool award.

Good company for whoever wins.

Yes.

Which hopefully you will win.

I'm in there.

I'm voting.

Voting.

Vote.

The WMBA just announced that it's going to be expanding to 18 teams by 2030 with new franchises in Cleveland, Detroit, and Philadelphia.

How exciting.

Yes!

I'm so pumped.

Are you?

I love it.

I'm not, okay, I don't watch WNBA.

I don't watch a lot of sports voluntarily besides Alonas.

But I love to follow and like see things online.

So like watching, you know, having this one league succeed, I think it's a huge thing for women, which is is great because there's not there's like barely any teams now so it's so cutthroat because like we all every year the wmba has their drafts you know but barely i mean with only how many teams there are only what 12 players like make a bench or something there's not enough for these amazing players that are coming out of it so good that there's more and expanding and also like having great players all over the country you know And they have such short seasons, the WNBA.

So hopefully this can also lengthen the season.

That's a good point.

The players are also negotiating for a higher salary.

Do you guys know what Caitlin Clark's current WNBA salary is?

I actually do think I know.

I think it's like 75K, even though she brings in something like 36 million to her city.

What?

You're about there at 78.

78.

There you go.

Yeah.

And do you know what the NBA salary cap is?

The NBA has a salary cap.

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that.

I just thought of things.

But so Caitlin Clark's current NWMA salary cap is for a rookie.

So her rookie salary cap is like 78.

Well, this is her second, third season.

I think there's like you're a rookie for three seasons or something like that.

Okay.

I mean,

what do you think the NBA salary cap is?

So it's different then.

Like

the WNBA are negotiating to increase their salary cap, which is currently only 250K.

That's crazy.

So like Caitlin is making 78K.

The most that she can make after she's a rookie is 250K.

They're trying to negotiate it so that it can be a million.

The NBA salary cap, I don't know what a rookie NBA salary cap is, but I imagine the NBA salary cap is, what's LeBron getting paid?

300 million?

What is it?

It's $154 million.

Yeah.

Which is astronomical.

And the women are getting pennies in comparison.

Oh my goodness.

And I would like to give some perspective.

I was making that at a non-profit.

Right.

Yeah.

She is getting non-profit wages for bringing in that amount of money to that area, to that team, to that.

But then she obviously has outside endorsements, right?

Like that's where she's making her money is through her other partnerships and deals, much the same way that you do, Alona.

Yeah, I mean, she's the same as me.

You know, we don't make much money from our sport.

I think that what's crazy is that at a time, probably that 78K was actually pretty good, but the explosive rise of the WNBA from even like three years ago four years ago like it's it hasn't risen to match that that's been the issue that they're selling out stadiums they're getting the fans and she's bringing in so much money and yet because of the salary cap she could only make 78k like that's that's crazy And she definitely deserves more.

But even that's kind of interesting.

They're only going to move it up to, so people like Asia Wilson are only making 250K.

Like they need to raise that to a million.

Even then you're like, wow, I feel like they're worth more, which is like soccer players now are getting, you know, money like that to feel soccer.

So they're currently trying to raise the WMBA salary cap to a million?

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

From 250K.

But it'll still be different for rookies.

Is that what you were saying?

Yeah.

Well, I imagine I don't know if they're going to keep their rookie thing, but our agent Rianne can speak on it more.

When you're a rookie, you come in and you're only allowed to like have a certain amount of pay.

There's a cap for how much you're allowed to get paid.

That's why Kaylin Clark's there.

Kaylin Clark should be getting the 250K, the max, but since she's considered a rookie rookie still.

And why do they have the caps for rookies?

Is that to protect other players?

Probably.

I mean, probably to protect salary caps are just such an interesting thing, right?

I mean, we see it everywhere that they're kind of there in the league that I played for in England and whatnot.

I don't really know the reason why rookies are specific, but I imagine it's so that they don't like, oh, well, you know, you spent one season because you were drafted to this team.

You spent one season there, but we'll bring you over here for this amount of money.

no it's almost like maybe to get the the players to be at their teams for a bit for those three years while they're working and then they can start negotiating for pay elsewhere and and the new york liberty can pay this much and then you know the sparks can pay this much i'm not sure i think that'd be interesting to figure out um cameron brink who is a another podcast host on wave she hosts straight to cam is you know a wmba player and i imagine she's on this sort of salary so like kind of the same as me we barely make any money in in our sport so all of our money is in deals and we're just wheeling and dealing I think Cameron Brink has done the most amount of partnerships of any WNBA athlete something like that she has the most partnerships yeah like deals and brands like deals and deals

yes she's wheeling and dealing because they have to she's only making I don't know she's only making about 78k if not or less than that you know and she's she has to work it's another job it's what you talk about all the time you can't just play your sport that you love and like make a living.

You gotta, you gotta grind on the side as well, if that is not the thing.

Well, if you guys have thoughts

on, you know, salary cap and the expansion of the WMBA, let us know in the comments what you think about all of it and what these women should actually be getting paid.

All the money in the world.

All the money in the world.

They're worth.

All right.

Well, let's touch some grass.

Sometimes we take life a little too seriously.

So this is our time to step back, really get your fists in the grass.

And Olivia, I just saw that you posted a video.

When you were in an Uber and they were blasting Christian rock music.

How are you doing?

How are you feeling about that?

It was kind of funny because this actually happens to me a lot where you clock it, where you're like, it's a good song.

Like, that's like, and then you're like, oh, hold up.

And you realize it's religious music.

But I mean, we are raised Catholic, so we have a certain amount of like, we know the church music in that way.

Whereas I'm like, damn, if we were listening to that kind of music, that stuff bumps, you know?

But I mean, I made a video because the driver was not a good driver and just like strong starts, like strong stops.

And my just kind of joke was like, yeah, no wonder he's blasting Christian rock music.

We're going to need Jesus to take the wheel on this one.

This is not okay.

But I don't know.

What do you guys think about that?

Blasting.

Christian rock music when you get into an Uber.

You could ask them to turn it off for sure if you wanted, but what are your thoughts?

Sometimes you can't tell it's Christian music or religious music.

That one song, Annie, pick me up, Annie Tim Me Rap.

Love that.

I'll bump that style.

I wouldn't know.

You know who could be Christian music?

Who's the guy that sings ordinary?

Oh, Alex Warren.

Alex Warren.

He could be Christian music.

He's got a little bit of a rasp to his voice.

There's a quality to his music.

Not just the sounds, like even ordinary.

Like, I know it's about his wife, but you could swing that in many ways.

I think he has a future there as well.

If he needed to branch in that direction, there's money in Christian music.

Okay.

There's money in a lot of things.

Who was it?

Caleb,

Caleb, what's his name?

Caleb Heron?

He's the funny comedian.

He did a recent thing where he was like, if you see me doing Christian comedy, mind your business.

Just don't get in my bag.

If y'all ever see me take a turn into Christian comedy,

keep your mouth shut.

Yeah.

I'm buying a private jet.

There's a lot of money in it.

There's a lot of money in the church and whatnot.

So I just thought that was funny.

I'm like, these, but they're matte.

They're the Christian music is elevated.

Some of those songs are real good.

I mean, I'd be listening to them.

Production quality.

It's production quality.

Yeah.

I actually don't listen to them, but I only listen to them on TikTok.

You know, on TikTok, when they come up, like the one you had.

What's my one that one that I really like is I still bless you

in the middle of the storm.

Oh, I got some

ask to bless you.

Oh my gosh, amen, you know

funny.

I just love the one that I put on that video, which is the uh my god did not fail.

That shit is like

that's what I'm thinking.

God, I

did not fail.

Okay,

okay, fine.

Testimony.

I mean, that that'll make you that'll make that religious.

That'll make you swim a little bit.

These, these, these Christian people are like, like, God first.

It's like, that's just good live music, though.

They're listening to that.

I would, too.

When we were in church, we had one lady at an organ.

Right.

Hitting that vibrato.

She is hitting that.

She's like that lady banging on the bus.

That is how she sang.

And she was so loud.

You know what I'm saying?

And so that's like, I almost think it is interesting.

Music can like help you you with

music is a powerful thing.

It helps you with your faith.

It helps you with how you think about things.

Like,

I really imagine, I wonder if in church, one time, you remember in church, in Catholic church, we one time had people who were almost singing two upbeat and they made them switch.

Do you remember that?

No.

Somebody was singing.

I think it was like that one family was singing something and then they switched back to that one woman.

Oh,

I know exactly who you're talking about.

Yes.

Because they had like the little egg shakers and like they were finally bringing something back.

That was so good.

I love, I was like, what are we really bumping in here?

And then we went back.

You see people talk about online that were like raised super Christian or, you know, in certain denominations of the church where they were like, I thought that I was so religious.

I thought I was so in tune with, you know, God and my religion.

But then I went to a concert for the first time and I realized I just like.

live music, like collective effervescence.

Like that's what was making them feel so spiritual was just connection to the people around them enjoying live music, like the most human thing that you can do.

It wasn't, it wasn't about the religion.

It was like, oh, I just liked live music, like in a community around that.

Like, if we were raised in another church that had more lively music, I probably would have stayed around longer.

I mean,

I do got to bring up the all-time banger, which is John 360.

John 36.

I knew you were.

360.

Seneca

loved the world.

He gave it.

Anyway, you guys, this is too much now.

Basically, what I wanted to ask on is touching some grass with, you know, high, like car service, shared, shared car service drivers blasting like Christian music or like conservative radio.

When we were in England and we got into that Uber and the Uber driver had the news up to like volume 70 and it was just like Trump and some other like BBC presenter and we're like, could you turn it off?

And he like got so angry at us.

Oh no, you even said, can you just turn it down?

We were like, hey, can you just turn it down?

Like, we just had a long day of recording and everything.

And like, we hired this car for the service of taking us from one place to another.

And we were like, hey, sorry, sir, could you turn it down or turn it off?

And he was like, I was listening to this before you came.

Whoa, hello.

You are providing a service though.

I was like, whoa.

And I was like, oh, okay, could you just turn it down?

He like doubles down and is like, could you, he was like, I was listening to this before you came here.

And at that point, you are dropping us off where we live.

you're about to find out where we operate and you're talking to us this way and we were four women inside of a car four big broad and we felt so small so gross so scared like

what do you do in that situation nothing i guess but i hate that so much you can report it to the company but like

it's just so scary I imagine, I'm not sure etiquette, but I imagine the etiquette is like, if you're providing that service for the passenger, they're paying you and they don't want to listen to something or just want you to turn something down

you should list you should do it i but then i'm like oh well it's your car

but you're choosing to ride uber or whatever it is you're choosing to do uber i believe that they should listen to what your requests are i personally didn't want to hear trump say shit on my ride home we got very silent after that it was kind of interesting we still got silent because like there's nothing you know as as women times we also like don't want to anger because who knows who this man could be?

Who knows if he's going to all of a sudden, you know, act out.

So, we have to be almost

you, you almost get quiet.

Like, what would I have been like?

I wish if there was a man in who'd been like, No, turn this off, but we were like,

And if there was a man in there, he probably would have.

He would have

expected that, which is what's so extra messed up about it.

But it's like, touch some grass, please.

Like, you are bringing people into your car.

One made us feel unsafe with what he was listening to.

Like, right.

Like, you know, and then by reacting that way and doubling down was like, so scary.

So, like, just like connect the reality and touch some grass as a person providing a service in that way.

Just like, don't scare the women you are working with.

Now, say they're blasting an audio book.

What are you doing?

What's the quality of the book?

What's the genre, I guess?

I don't know.

I'm like, you're jumping into a story then i don't know what's happening right that's too much that's too much one time i was in a car and this uber driver went really kind of kooky on me and he was talking about like it's all a simulation it's all blah blah blah blah blah and i was like what is happening and again you get like scared you're just like no for sure man thousand percent this is a simulation the the devil i thought yeah he'd be working you know i've never heard anything more true but you i'm like don't murder me yeah it's interesting i think you have to it's almost self-preservation.

You have to just kind of like get to where you're going in the chillest way possible, which isn't fun, but who knows how people are.

I mean, one of my top tips is, you know, I never put my actual home address when I'm booking a ride.

I do a couple of...

buildings over or whatever just to even if they're perfectly fine who knows what kind of driver i'm going to get but just to be so safe like i so that's a hot tip just do a couple of addresses over and then I'll get out and wait for the driver to drive away before I start heading in any specific direction.

Sometimes they're like lingering to, you know, get their next ride and I like start freaking out.

So it's just me in the street like, God, where was that address they wanted me to go to?

As if it's on my house, like two doors down.

You know what I mean?

I'm just like, ah, man, just, I wish my friend would text me back.

I'm just standing on the sidewalk waiting for them to go.

But that's a hot tip.

Never put your like actual address in there.

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Speaking of standards of service, I wanted to bring up

another thing, which would be something I never really encountered until I moved to Los Angeles, California, which is restaurants that during their daytime service have you wait in line to order, get a number, and then sit down.

Have you come in contact with these?

Yes, I have, but mostly in LA, actually, there's a, I feel like the ones I've been to have been in LA.

It's a lot of people.

I've been to Pine and Crane.

Yep, that's

all

And a few others.

And then you put in your thing and then they're like, and just tip here.

I'm like, there's that funny comedian.

I know I'm bringing up so many people on the spot, but that funny comedian, I think Robbie is her name.

Yes.

Where she's like, you want me to tip 20% on this?

At this point, I work here.

What's your take?

If I have to go up to order, I'm not tipping.

I know restaurants are all

self-served now.

Zero percent.

Zero.

At this point, I work there.

We all know tipping in America is crazy.

But then you're, it's just like, okay, well, I, I had to do all this and you still want that.

And for me, it's like, you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant.

Sit me down for the price of food in LA as well.

Like the price of a sandwich, let alone like, God forbid you add avocado to it.

But you want me to order that myself and then,

you know, put tip on that and everything.

But then, cause I guess my biggest thing is if you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant.

Because if I'm waiting in line to order and then I have to get my own water from the big dispenser,

you're a cafeteria.

You're not a restaurant.

And if you want to be a restaurant, if you want to serve restaurant prices, be a restaurant.

Give me a waiter.

And like, I just went to one yesterday, which is what's on the top of my mind.

And the person who's like, say, what is your name?

Drag them.

Drag them.

Drag him.

Highly likely Highland Polly.

Was it good food?

The breakfast burrito had whole cherry tomatoes in it, which did throw me.

Like that was not a good sensory experience.

I was literally like picking them.

It was a business lunch too.

And I was like, sorry about this.

And I'm like plucking them out one by one and they're like exploding in my fingers as I put them down on the plate.

Were they cooked or raw?

They were warm because they were inside of this breakfast burrito.

Straight to jail.

Straight to jail.

Straight to jail.

And then what I'm saying is I'm waiting in line in the hot sun.

Nobody's coming along to bring menus.

Like, you know, so they want you to walk up to the front of the line, grab a menu, come back to your spot in line.

But anyway, it's like for me, the biggest thing is then, okay, I don't have a waiter.

So when something is wrong, wrong, there's no one to turn to.

You'll be like, hey, so sorry, could I actually get that catch-up that I asked for?

When in our case, the person I was dining with got served the wrong drink.

And then the person was just gone.

They dropped it and they were gone.

And we were like, oh, oh, no, you know, and like her, her drink actually went to somebody else who then was getting up at the same time to go back to the counter and they had to switch drinks.

What are we doing?

What are we doing?

And we're tipping on that.

And it's a cafeteria.

That's my, that's my thoughts.

There's also like, there's a restaurant we went to in LA and a couple others.

Sorry, LA roasting you today.

But

they add like a 4% charge to checks.

And the reasoning is, we add this 4% charge because we want our employees to have health insurance.

So

I'm paying for their health insurance.

So do that.

So how about you help them out?

And they're like, you can totally take this 4% off.

Oh, now Carol can't get her dental work done.

Yeah.

God forbid.

And just include it into the price of the items.

They put it in.

Yeah.

And I'm like, you're making us feel like a bad people.

Like, just include, it's part of running a business.

It's providing insurance to your full-time investors.

Why is that not a business cost?

Why is that an additional fee?

I want to say we all also have such strong opinions on this because we all have worked in the service industry.

I've been a waitress so many times over.

I've been a bartender.

I've been all up and in that grind.

I enjoyed giving good service.

I was like, it was a fun puzzle to hack each table, the people you get to know, like being good at it, remembering orders.

Like, I took pride in that work.

So, I took pride in the tips that I made from that.

That is a lot for people, though.

You are working for tips.

So, that's, that is a lot.

That's, you know, that's,

it's a bit of a mental game.

But then on the flip side of that, like this double-edged sword, when we were trying to eat in France,

they don't work for tips.

So they're not going to seat you because they're going to make their money from their salary, whether you're eating there or not.

So the restaurant culture was very interesting.

It was very French, as Alona and I kept saying, but they would have all these open tables and be like, We're booked.

Sorry.

And you'd walk by like an hour later, still completely empty.

You know what I mean?

But because they're not working for tips, is my thought.

They don't have to turn over tables to make their living.

They're just kind of like, well,

sorry.

You don't need to be here.

So I think it's, you know, there's no right answer, but I guess I prefer just like an attentive service that I am then happy to pay for.

Okay, fine.

Order at a counter.

I think I have to be okay with it's not tipping 20, 15%.

Is it $5?

Is that crazy?

Like ordering a drink at a bar.

You're paying for ordering a drink at a bar.

That's even, I'm like, $1.

But if it's at, we're at,

you know, pine and crane, is it

when it turned around 20%, is it putting in your own $6?

You know, that's where like, I think you have to figure it out and also just be okay okay with that.

Duh, it's a whole thing.

And I can't trust some of my friends to pay for things.

Like, if we are getting shots at a bar

and you're putting down 20% on

a singular shot, they're like pouring vodka into a shot glass.

Yes.

And I'm like, because I've also had some places where you get some crazy shot prices.

Right.

And then I get the Venmo the next morning and I'm like, how is this $40 for one shot?

What happened?

Because they're tipping 20%.

Yeah.

I also wonder, you know, when you get wine places, like wine can be 80 bucks, 140 to 200 bucks a bottle.

For a bottle, yeah.

And so why am I tipping 20% on that?

You just opened that for me.

Did you, were you there smashing the grapes with your feet?

And because that bottom is a break.

Why am I giving you that?

Yeah.

That was what that bottle is retail.

So even though we're just getting three plates, because I got a bottle of wine, it brings a total up to 200 plus bucks.

So then I'm tipping 40 bucks, but it's like, actually, the wine shouldn't, I feel like that shouldn't be in it

and we recognize that it is a flawed system and it is not the service provider's faults no right answer do tip we I'd be touching if you like to I don't want to be judged I do tip I do tip but the wine happy about it yeah

and I will say like the people at the kind of cafeteria restaurants in LA that you know you do get to the counter they are so lovely you know they are like how are you as if you're old friends it's I think very LA you know, and you're like, oh my God, have we met before?

They're so nice.

So good.

It's so good to see you like that.

So it is always a lovely experience, but it's just the restaurant experience as a whole is not complete in that way for me.

I have one last note on this.

I was at Newark Airport the other day.

Not the other day, it was a few months ago.

And I was grabbing a chapstick from like a kiosk thing.

The way it asked me.

if I would like to tip the service workers, I looked around, not a single soul in there.

You were like, there's gotta be.

Oh, was it self-service?

It was self-service.

I was checking myself out.

Oh, no.

And I was like, who's this gone?

Who's this for?

You're like, I'm being pranked right now.

I hit zero so fast.

I was like, what are you talking about?

Well, ladies, let's take a little visit to the coffee clutch, see what's percolating in pop culture.

Meryl Streep.

Ann Hathaway, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci are coming back for Devilwear's Prada 2.

Wow.

They really got them all there.

They got them all.

And is it coincidence that this comes after we hear about Anna and Torz, you know, stepping down from the one position?

Wasn't this already in making when this was happening?

When was this announced?

Who knew about it?

Was this

two years ago?

Who put this out?

It was probably just great timing.

Who put this out?

Who's responsible?

It's very recent news.

Can't wait.

I'll be watching.

You love Devil Wars Prada 1, right?

I haven't watched it often.

It's not one of my favorites.

I love it.

I do enjoy Anne Hathaway.

I think her great work is, you know, Princess Diaries and Ella Enchanted.

To be sure, I love Devil Wars Prada.

I quote it all the time.

All the time.

I think just especially in Why is No One Ready?

Where are the belts for this trip?

Why is No One Ready?

That's my favorite.

I do that all the time.

And then also, by all means, move at a glacial pace.

You know how that thrills me.

I love that one.

I like florals for spring.

Groundbreaking.

Groundbreaking.

Question for the group.

Who is the villain in that movie?

The boyfriend.

The correct answer is her chef boyfriend, who's a chef and yet serves her the most burnt grilled cheese you've ever seen in your freaking life and is evil the entire movie.

Oh, you can have a career, but she can't.

Was she also, though, working too much?

But it was like she was following her dreams.

So, and she was still being an attentive friend, I'm pretty sure.

Or was she giving them gifts?

Maybe we all got to re-watch this movie before the second one comes out.

But I will be in the theaters.

I will actually buy a ticket to watch us in the theaters.

Oh,

feels like a good one.

You know me.

I got my movie subscription.

I'm in that theater.

I went last week because I got to get my money's worth.

You already lost it.

AMC blew you over for like four months there.

No,

I'm making up for it now.

Don't worry.

I want to see the new Fantastic Four.

Well, we loved the Fantastic Four from many years ago, the Silver Surfer movie.

Remember that one?

Jessica Alba.

Did we love that?

Are you saying stuff right now?

I loved that.

I watched that movie all the time.

I watched that a lot.

I watched that a lot.

Jessica Alba looked at it.

Very sexy people.

I remember it.

Oh, I don't know.

I got to watch that.

I'll watch that tonight then.

Let me put that on my list.

And then they like switched to the shop.

When was the last time you think you watched that?

I mean, a bunch of years ago, but I watched it a lot growing up.

Chris

Evans.

Chris Evans, Captain America?

What are you doing here?

Why are you here and now you're Captain America?

Whatever.

Why haven't we watched that recently?

That's weird.

Let's

watch it again.

Yeah, I'll watch it tonight.

I'll turn it on.

The new one comes out.

You'll turn it on.

The trailer does look very cool.

The aesthetics of the movie look very cool.

It's Marvel.

I'm locked in.

You know, I'm sad.

Alona, you just watched K-pop Demon Hunters, right?

That was really fun.

I highly suggest it.

Really good.

It was like, everything was quirky, well, well thought out.

Songs were great.

Singing was great.

Question.

Yep.

What is K-pop demon slight hunters?

Wouldn't you like to know?

How about you go watch it?

I told you to watch it.

It's quirky and funny.

You know, I'm watching Love Island right now.

I cannot be clocked in on anything else.

So, what is this?

Is it like a game show?

The world will know you as pop stars.

You will be hunters.

It's a movie,

animated, very cool animation, I will say, like halfway between that sort of

uh anime with

classic animation, like not fully anime.

I don't want to give the storyline away, but they're demon hunters and k-pop stars.

The title really says it all,

okay.

Yeah, that's a bit on the nose, but all right.

But it's a movie,

yeah, it's a movie.

Okay, then I can lock in and watch that, no problem.

It's very fun, yeah.

Okay, fun.

Is there music in it, obviously, because it's k-pop?

Yes, of course, of course.

I'm speaking about uh Korean pop music, Korean pop music, adjacent Cat's Eye.

Hands off, Gabriella.

Gabriella, hands off, Gabriella, La.

They're coming out with a bunch of new music.

What are our thoughts?

Yes.

Hands off, Gabriella.

I love Cat's Eye.

Do I stream their music?

Not really.

Am I all over the socials?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I have been streaming Game Boy.

Oh,

and Gabriella.

I like Game Boy a lot.

Gabriella is such an earworm.

Like, from the first time I listened to that, I was like, ooh, that's going to be with me.

I really like that one.

Personally, I'm not over gnarly.

Not over it.

Love that.

Okay.

It was tough at first, and now I get it.

I get it.

I get it.

Took a few listens.

Now I get it.

The dance is so cool.

They do do an amazing job on social media.

They're very on it.

They get it.

With the dancing, the...

you know, the single cams or the following one person throughout the dancing and whatnot and get to know them.

Do you have a favorite member?

Megan.

I really love that girl down.

Really?

She's weird, but I love her.

I really enjoy, is her name Daniella?

Yeah.

Ah, yes, yes, yes.

I love her.

That girl can dance.

She's a great dancer.

I like her facial expressions too.

She does a great facial, like, she does a great performance while dancing, and she's an unreal dancer.

Yeah.

She's very cool.

Do they have a song called Mean Girls off their album?

EP?

Yes.

Oh, what's this release?

What's an EP?

You know,

an EP is kind of like almost like a mini album where it's

oftentimes I think artists put out EPs as a way to like delay an album.

So when they get more fans from all the EPs and their debut album does better.

I don't fuck with all the EPs everywhere.

I'm like, put out an album.

Right.

I asked about the Mean Girls thing because didn't they have a member that you really like, Olivia, Olivia, what's her name?

who she's now adele she's her own artist wasn't like mean girls a thing from that too i'd love to explain this please um

adele has a song in which she says like

because she got labeled the mean girl after the documentary and I think it might be just like kind of a coincidence because in the Cat's Eyes Mean Girl song, they're talking about all sorts of girls, like mean girls, queen girls.

Oh, right, right.

So it's like how every woman, no matter what their label allows is like beautiful and worthy um I particularly love they've got a line God bless the tea girls and all the in-between girls so they're really just like

it's such like an all-encompassing song for women it's so wonderful oh it's an outright like you know support of trans people yes absolutely

wait what do they say god bless the tea girls god bless the tea girls and all the in between girls for transgender girls oh nice in between non-binary whatever you'd like you know people who don't fit into one thing.

Are they getting backlash for that?

I don't, I haven't seen any, but the writer or producer of the song has shared online that while he was trying to sell it, a lot of artists wanted it, but they wanted to change that line specifically to take it out, and he refused to sell it to them.

I do like

Cat's Eye in that they still, because we grew up watching K-pop, and it's a very K-pop can be a very like produced, like they have to all say the right things, they have to all act a certain way.

And I've liked about Cat's Eye, like even watching them just be themselves with each other they just like

they like swear at each other they joke with each other they're still like being an american like

themselves i really like i was afraid that they'd be more controlled kind of always as we've seen in k-pop but i like that they're kind of still holding on to that and kind of and being themselves i i enjoy that about them I think they're doing a good job of leaning into that, you know, and capitalizing on the girls' personalities as individuals.

Whereas I think maybe I'm wrong, but when people start to have like their favorites in traditional K-pop groups where they're so regimented and they so have to play a part, it's because the fans are finding the tiniest moments of these, of these K-pop idols personality on, you know, paparazzi cams or little things they've said on videos.

And they find those little bits and they run with it and they become their favorite idols.

Whereas I think they're allowing the cat's eye girlies to just be themselves and people get to be fully, you know, in this group and getting to know these women.

Yeah, I enjoy it.

What's huge is that two of the members members have come out as bisexual

and we haven't really seen that in k-pop very exciting it is a like christian country and even like for the straight idols like you can't even be seen dating right like it is so right

uh

tight it is i don't know the right word but i'm so excited that these girls are able to express themselves and they're doing a ton of promotion in korea though too because they're going on all like the shows like all the the sps guyo de jun or or whatever it's called, like they're doing it as well.

So, it's gonna be the weekly shows, yeah.

The weekly shows, yeah, they're doing it,

the variety shows, right?

Yeah, right, that's

very good, good for them, very exciting.

Love them, good for them, they're changing the narrative and they're dancing really well doing it.

I think this will just have to lead into a bigger K-pop conversation in one episode if you want that.

Let's transition into a little tea time, hear what's going on in our lives.

Uh, Ilona, you have a docuseries that has been announced with with hello sunshine.

Congratulations, darling.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And you are currently, I mean, we, I am, I'm on this project as well.

And we are currently talking to distributors and having conversations on where this docuseries will live.

I think it's been a bit of an interesting process, but it's been very cool to have these conversations and kind of talk about what we're doing with this show and the story that we're telling, what's been shot and what we want to shoot.

Yeah.

To kind of get them excited for it.

Yeah, it's been a lot of meetings, you know, going around just kind of telling people like what's, I think, why our documentary is going to be something, you know, people are going to want to watch and why it should be on their, their program.

It's been fun because every time I kind of get to share a little bit more, I feel like you get more comfortable as you do things.

And it's been about, you know,

not like selling myself, but like

there's a story here that I want people to know.

And there's a story that I think people are going to love to see.

And so I hope other people, you know, brands see that.

And I think they will.

I think they're, there, it's going to be, I am, what I, what I imagine is it's going to be a really fun documentary and people are going to want to watch it.

There's so much about me that people don't know or that I just don't share.

I mean, I am an open book in many ways, but I think there's been a lot, especially this year that has happened that it's like.

I haven't put into words or I haven't really shared online.

So

I'm excited to, you know, get that out there for some because I think, especially being an athlete, we're thought of, you know,

in certain ways.

And this is just another way to tell a female athlete's story.

And I think it's going to be such a fun story because it's going to be a premium sports.

documentary for sure.

We're getting that sports angle, but you are so much more than just the rugby because you have to be.

So I think in this, we're getting so much wonderful texture and about you and your life and not the drama outside, but just like what it means to be you and the day-to-day and the, it's going to be fun.

It's just not going to be like sports and the grind and there'll be a lot of that, but it is also fun and the families involved and us being goofy.

And

you were recently looking through like old home clips for it, huh?

It was a very fun process because I want to get them.

I've been shooting for the past couple of years now, since Tokyo, I've shot a bunch of horizontal footage, 4K, just on my phone of you when you're doing cool things.

Cause in my brain, I've always been like,

either someone's making a documentary of Alona or I'll do it.

So

I got to have the clips for it.

So I've been shooting footage for years now.

And so I have it all on this drive that, you know, with Hello Sunshine, I was like, hey guys, guess what I got?

Stuff because I've been shooting it either whether I was going to make this film or we're going to have an unreal partner like you.

Yeah.

And so I was doing that, but then another part of that was I wanted to give them home video footage.

I think that's really important to your story.

We were just home in Vermont recording

and you had the cameras with you in your childhood bedroom and, you know, you were crying.

You were going through beautiful things and you were just kind of talking and telling stories.

And I think it's going to be this really beautiful touch point on who Alona is and who she was to get to where you are now.

So I wanted to make sure that they had actual video footage and not just photos of that time, of little Alona.

And a little Alona alongside her two sisters, alongside her mom and dad and the community that kind of, you know, built you.

Right.

So I was going through about like six hours of footage.

Maybe it's five, about five hours of footage.

And I cut it down to moments of you because there was a lot of other stuff.

Alona never wanted to wear underwear as a child.

I think it was a sensory thing.

So you got to cut around that where she just was like dress on, no underwear, going down a slide, leg spread.

You know what I mean?

You got to, I got to cut around that.

And I'll be real.

That's me right now as well.

That's her today.

Wearing a long dress, not wearing underwear.

Okay, little Alona knew us up.

What's that?

A euphoria audio that's like Maddie knew who she was from a very young age.

That's Alona.

That's me.

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So that was a very cool process to go and see all of us so little.

And there's these clips of me being like, these are my sisters.

And there's Alona going, that's my sister.

And that's my sister.

And we're just so little.

And to be doing, seeing what we're doing today as sisters, it was very cool on video once again.

But that was also an emotional process to watch us so little and where we were.

And just like seeing us as just.

girls in the world for the first time figuring out with each other by each other's sides, playing in the living room.

And I'm so glad that mom and dad had the forethought to just, there's a whole segment of dad just rolling on us playing in the living room, you know, jumping on the couches, running around.

You, you've taught, we have a scarf that we're like an expensive scarf.

Dad keeps going, that's expensive.

Okay.

Like it's this expensive scarf of moms that we're playing as if one of us is a dog and we're walking us through the living room, you know, and dad's just kind of being like, yeah, you know what?

They're having fun.

It's all good.

So it's very special moments that I was able to cut down for the documentary.

I am interested though, because I think this will be, I wonder if it'll feel like invasive, vulnerable.

Like, Like, will it, will it feel that way when it comes out?

I'm like, ooh, you know, they're, everyone's going to see that.

Everyone's going to, you know, judge me or know all these feelings and they're going to get to make their opinions about how I feel right now.

I do, I do get nervous about that because I have been feeling some ways this year that I'm, not that I'm not proud of, but I feel very torn about.

And so people are going to see this online.

And I want to make sure like I'm putting,

you know,

I'm going to be put in a good light because that I think I'm a good person but like also I want to put the sport in a good light that's my thing is you know this documentary is because we're leading into the World Cup so I want to make sure the sports being shown well no matter you know how how I'm feeling right now so I am afraid that it's gonna be a very like

gonna show everything I don't it's not gonna show everything but it will people will get it to really see an inside look about me and I that does doesn't worry me so much but it is interesting I think that's a incredibly human reaction and thing to be nervous about.

But I almost think too that it is special that you have allowed these cameras in to tell this story of how you've been feeling torn because that's incredibly human and that's what you're actually going through.

And I think that we're capturing it in a very

like sensitive way.

So I think it's kind of cool to tell this story because it isn't just like, I don't know.

I think there's a lot of cliches when it comes to sports stories.

And I think you are your own story.

And this is, I'm so excited that it's being told in this way, but that's so normal to be nervous.

Yeah, I'm going to be interested when we get to that point where we're like, you know, looking over the drafts and seeing how it is.

But I do think I am excited also to just like watch it.

And then later on, years from now, I'll show my kids and then show my grandkids, you know?

I think it'll be cool.

And then I want multiple seasons.

Sorry.

I want a season two, season three.

There's more to be told about Alona Marr.

I think it will.

I think what we are setting it up for, this is leading into that, you know, but and then when I, you know, decide when I go back to play for LA, like that's a season there as well to see somebody who's going for hopefully their third Olympics and who had just an amazing last Olympics where they won a medal.

That's, that's a story to tell.

The pressure on there, the pressure I feel constantly.

I think will be a whole other thing to really dive into.

I think in this season and what you're filming, you're talking about something that's very nuanced, you know.

And I think you've been describing it in that way where you're getting all the different angles.

But I will say, there are people who are just going to like not even listen to it and just think what they want to think.

But you've been putting in so much work and speaking so eloquently to like actually describe what is going on and not just be like,

you know, like,

so it's you're taking a risk by putting it out there, but I think it's a

calculated one.

And it's, it's your story, you know, like you have a right to share it.

And you're not the only person that feels like this too.

You know, there will be people that relate and it will be so thankful for you for talking about your truth.

And I'm excited for us to find the right partner to bring this

story to the world with Hello Sunshine.

But on that, which will also be captured on the dock, you are entering World Cup camp soon.

And so with that, I would love to know, Adriana, how are you going to spend our time while Adriana is in camp?

I am going to De Hampton.

I'm going to go watch Alona play in DC.

Sorry.

And I will be there to hold her while she is going through this all and give her my support.

Right, right.

Right.

Yeah,

I joined World Cup prep July 6th.

and it's about 10, 12 weeks.

We'll be together.

10, 12 weeks.

That's a daunting amount of time.

That's a daunting.

I thought six weeks for PAC 4 was daunting.

I'm even more daunting.

It's 10 weeks away from home.

Like anything is going to be daunting with that amount of time.

And you're playing a physical sport that's...

gonna be hard on the body and the mental going into the world stage of rugby.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

So 10 weeks,

I've been doing a lot of workouts and they're definitely bringing us in more in shape, you know, it's like the workouts have been so tough, the running that I've been doing.

So that one, because we don't have a lot of time together, we're not like other countries where they've been training consistently.

We just come together for, you know, four weeks before the World Cup and then we have to go at it.

So it's very much so going to be a

packed schedule.

I mean, it'll be, I think that's what's daunting is like, I know we're going to be doing so much contact.

I know we're going to be doing so much running and so much this and this and this.

And there'll be like no breaks.

And I just hope my body can take that.

I am excited.

I'm excited to get back with my teammates, get back with the girls.

I love, I love, I love them.

They've been great.

I just like,

I'm also somebody who maybe it's in my older age, but I'm not no longer that fresh-eyed, like,

oh my God, let's go do this together.

Oh, we got to go do team building.

I'm like, I would rather sit

in on my own and go out to dinner on my own.

So I'm trying to find that balance, right?

Of like team building versus needing my time away because it's going to be, we're together so much.

But you have had now, which is revolutionary for you, all new, two weeks at home in San Diego.

Yeah.

Oh, luxury.

How's that been?

Dude, it's been lit.

I have just been working out.

I have been getting coffee.

I've been going to this one gym that's kind of like a muscle gym.

And I just go in there and I just like rep out arms for, and I'm just with my dogs in there.

I love it.

I'm showing them up.

Like their, their warmout.

Your workout's their warm-up.

Or wait, your warm-up's their workout.

Is that what's happening?

Right, right, right.

I don't know if I'm showing them up, but I have enjoyed wearing, it's not too much clothing, like showing my arms.

And I think people, they're sometimes like, who the heck is that, big lady?

And I'm like, yeah, what's up, dog?

It's been very nice.

I love it.

I love doing what I want want to do.

I'm trying to enjoy this time because it is going to, I'm going to be full go.

It's been great.

I love San Diego.

I think it's just a great place.

Gonna enjoy it while I'm here.

And then who knows where, you know, life will take me after the World Cup or whatnot.

Love it.

Me?

I'm going to celebrate the 4th of July.

Yeah.

Actually, I'm just, I'm going to be celebrating all of the people in this country that make America what it is.

You know, gonna have myself gonna go to a bit of a pool party oh nice and then a bit of a country bar in the evening getting oh nice yeehaw

so that's gonna be very fun it's gonna be me and then while you're in world cup camp i will also be officiating a wedding so i've been writing my script getting lots of inspiration and i keep looking up um like ideas or other people's scripts and speeches on tick tock and whatnot and i keep crying my eyes out it's just like i think it's so beautiful watching these videos like of these people like choosing to marry one another and like unite their lives.

And I'm just like, what the hell?

I don't know where all this emotion is coming from.

But so I've been doing that.

I want to do as great a job as I can.

So if truly anybody watching this has any tips or tricks for me, please let me know.

I am all ears.

I am all open.

But that'll be really good.

And if anyone needs an officiant, Olivia is ordained.

I am ordained to officiate weddings.

My rate is insane, though.

You guys, I don't know if you can afford to.

You can't afford her.

You can't afford my services, but I speak very eloquently.

I like to think.

So, Set Calms Major.

You let me know.

I'll do your wedding.

I am intrigued to hear this, actually.

Will it be recorded?

Probably.

Probably.

They'll have a videographer.

But you guys will be my testing ground because

I think it's supposed to be a surprise for the bride and groom.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, so I do need to test it on people.

So

you can marry Adrada and I.

My two unmarried sisters, they will be the ones I am asking.

Wow, you had to say that.

You had to say unmarried.

That's crazy, dude.

I can say that right back to you.

Oh.

Mrs.

Dirty?

I'm married to the game.

I'm married to the grind.

Sorry.

I'm in a committed relationship to the grind.

So.

Right.

All right, ladies, would you like to play a little game of fair or flag?

I would.

Hit us.

I'll start.

Playing music, TikToks, any videos off of your phone in public, loudly.

Flag,

flag, flag, flag.

Giant flag.

There's no reason for that.

Especially on planes.

If you do it on planes.

Oh, I just.

Did it on the subway?

I just had a person like two seats over from me on a plane just like playing their videos, just like out loud.

Nightmare.

Loudly, too.

And nobody is like calling, like, what do you do?

Do you flag down a host?

Because I don't like, I got to sit here with you the whole time.

Do I be like, you're being rude?

But you're being, how do people not see that they're being rude?

Do they just think their experience is better and more important than everybody else's?

Maybe.

Shared laundry, forgetting clothing in a washer or driver for a long period of time.

In the washer, that's a flag.

First off, how could you even do that?

It's not going to smell good.

You need to move that quickly.

Right.

Maybe in the dryer, it could be fair because you things got going on, but if it is shared, flag in a way because we're all trying to do our stuff flag

and it you're just hurting yourself because people are gonna move it or it's gonna get stinky how do you feel about people moving your laundry hate it i hate it but again it's it's your own fault i do think that there should be like a buffer zone right i set alarms yeah well you guys are very good at your laundry you guys set alarms and get there right when it's done I say hate it because I hate other people touching mine because I have an alarm.

Like you say, I'm on it and I am there.

There's There's no reason.

If it's because you're waiting by the thing for the buzzer to go off

and then I'm there a minute later, you better be freaking for real.

Don't touch my stuff.

So, yeah, it's setting alarms for yourself.

I mean, but like then again, if you forget every once in a blue moon, that is so okay as well.

But mostly flag.

All right, what about eating breakfast at 7-Eleven while traveling internationally?

Why would that be a flag?

A hoe's got to save money.

And 7-Eleven in other countries is like a cool experience to do yeah I don't think ever any even if it's a 7-Eleven here shit you got to eat something a good thing you're eating breakfast hell yeah most important meal of the day I would like to speak on 7-Elevens and these videos of people please the amount of unnecessary like plastic consumption from these 7-Elevens is crazy work.

Like the ice cups and then, but you're getting a drink out of another like plastic cup.

And I'm like, then what's the point?

there's got to be a better system here there's so much plastic okay how about one more rehearsing conversations fair what does that even mean like you know you're gonna have like a serious talk with someone and so you practice what you're gonna say yeah fair fair but then again sometimes I'm good off of like the top of the head like we talked about with Alona like sometimes it's better just to like go with the flow for me because then if I'm rehearsing too much then I'll be too in my head and I'm not actually thinking through the actual conversation that's happening in front of me because I'm thinking there's like points I got to hit.

I've written out scripts before.

Whoa,

for conversations.

Yeah.

Okay, so fair to you.

Very fair to me.

Fair.

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