WNBA Salary Caps, Christian Rock & Going Commando

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Ilona's been nominated for an Espy! Vote here: https://shorturl.at/J9Kek

We chat about a little bit of everything and nothing this week, starting with the WNBA's wild salary caps (and player negotiations), to one of Olivia's wilder Uber rides, and Ilona's new docuseries from Hello Sunshine. Olivia compiled tons of footage from her own personal archive, and details how some things never change. Dre catches us up on some new KATSEYE songs and a bit of tea from one of their producers. All this and more on this week's episode of House of Maher!

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Speaker 2 Christian music is elevated. Some of those songs are real good.
I mean, I'd be listening to them. I actually don't listen to them, but I only listen to them on TikTok.

Speaker 2 One that I really like is, I still bless you.

Speaker 2 In the middle of the storm.

Speaker 2 Oh, I know.

Speaker 2 I still bless you. And I'm like, woo!

Speaker 2 Welcome to House of Mar, a Wave Original. We have a few house rules.
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Speaker 2 Make sure to subscribe to us on on YouTube so you can watch our beautiful faces on your whatever screens you're using. I am the middle sister, Alona.
I'm the eldest daughter, Olivia.

Speaker 2 And I'm the youngest, Adriana Maher. And this week, a huge congratulations to Alona for your first Espes nomination.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.
Very exciting. Huge, dude.
How did it feel when you heard? I was like, oh, that's chill. That's really cool.
It's funny.

Speaker 2 It's for Best Breakthrough Athlete, which, you know, I've been playing this for seven years now professionally, but, you know, it takes sometimes, it takes a lot to break through.

Speaker 2 And I'm happy I was able to do it in my, you know, seventh year playing this. But there have been some great athletes who've gotten in the past.
So really excited.

Speaker 2 I've been voting and getting everybody to vote. So we'll see.
I mean, I'm hoping to go and to get to just be in the room with some also great people. Getting

Speaker 2 dressed up. Show off.
Show up and show off. What do we think?

Speaker 2 That's all I like to do. You know, I like getting dressed up.
I like, you know, even though it's it's for sports, bringing the femininity, the beauty to it. And,

Speaker 2 you know, I'm excited. I love being in those spaces.
I love getting to meet people who are also like-minded, you know, who've worked hard.

Speaker 2 And I think this is the first time rugby's ever been nominated in anything. And to be a rugby, a women's rugby player, how kind of cool is that, you know? And so you can vote.

Speaker 2 The link will be in our social bios to go vote for Alona. You can vote every day across multiple devices.
So I'm going to need everybody to lock in and do that because lock in.

Speaker 2 No one is more deserving because you've, that's so true about like you breaking through.

Speaker 2 You've been breaking in and breaking through for so many years, but it's that same thing as like it takes many years to be an overnight success.

Speaker 2 I kind of think of it as like best new artist at the crazy season. No one is a new artist.
Like the whole thing of Sabrina Carpenter getting nominated after she just had what five, six albums.

Speaker 2 It's It's not that you're just a brand new rugby player. It's just like you've had a breakthrough moment.

Speaker 2 Huge breakthrough moment. True.
This is my

Speaker 2 This is your Grammys. Your Espys.
Are you going to like have a speech prepared or how does that work for you? I don't really know what's happening, to be honest.

Speaker 2 I think I will, maybe, but then I get worried that if you have a speech prepared, you won't get it, you know? You're jinxing yourself.

Speaker 2 You're jinxing yourself, but also I think that I just would have some points that I'd really want to hit. And so I would have at least some bullet points out there that I make sure to

Speaker 2 mention.

Speaker 2 I love it. Be prepared, but not overly prepared.
Yeah, yeah. Maybe not like it.
Respectful of it. Yes.
Well, I'm not one to ever just like read word for word either.

Speaker 2 So it'd just be bullets so that I can kind of like say things, but also be myself up there. You're very good, just like off the off-the-head brain.
And

Speaker 2 I do that a lot when I have meetings for you where, you know, like ahead of, you know, the panels that you did in France and everything, they wanted to make sure you were prepped and you knew.

Speaker 2 And I was like, honestly, don't tell her the questions. She's better when she's just ripping away with whatever comes to her brain.
So I think that's kind of fun.

Speaker 2 I think Juju Watkins won this last year. Yes, I think so.
Yeah, yeah. Right.
Okay. So this is a very cool award.
Good company for whoever wins. Yes.
Which hopefully you will win. I'm in there.

Speaker 2 I'm voting. Voting.
Vote. The WNBA just announced that it's going to be expanding to 18 teams by 2030 with

Speaker 2 new franchises in Cleveland, Detroit, and Philadelphia. How exciting.
Yes!

Speaker 2 I'm so pumped. Are you? I love it.
I'm not, okay, I don't watch WNBA because I don't watch a lot of sports voluntarily besides Alona's.

Speaker 2 But I love to follow and like see things online.

Speaker 2 So, like, watching, you know, having this one league succeed, I think it's a huge thing for women, which is great because there's not, there's like barely any teams now.

Speaker 2 So, it's so cutthroat because, like, we all, every year, the WNBA has their drafts, you know, but barely, I I mean with only how many teams there are only what 12 players like make a bench or something there's not enough for these amazing players that are coming out of it so good that there's more and expanding and also like having great players all over the country you know and they have such short seasons the WNBA so hopefully this can also lengthen the season

Speaker 2 that's a good point The players are also negotiating for a higher salary. Do you guys know what Caitlin Clark's current WNBA salary is? I I actually do think I know.

Speaker 2 I think it's like 75K, even though she brings in something like 36 million to

Speaker 2 her city.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 You're about there at 78. 78.
There you go. Yeah.
And do you know what the NBA salary cap is? The NBA has a salary cap. Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that. I just thought.

Speaker 2 But so Caitlin Clark's current NWMA salary cap is for a rookie.

Speaker 2 So her rookie salary cap is like 78.

Speaker 2 Well, this is her second, third season. I think there's like you're a rookie for three seasons or something like that.
Okay. I mean,

Speaker 2 what do you think the NBA salary cap is? So it's different then. Like

Speaker 2 the WNBA are negotiating to increase their salary cap, which is currently only 250K.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. So like Caitlin is making 78K.
The most that she can make after she's a rookie is 250K. They're trying to negotiate it so that it can be a million.

Speaker 2 The NBA salary cap, I don't know what a rookie NBA salary cap is, but I imagine the NBA salary cap is, what's LeBron getting paid? 300 million?

Speaker 2 What is it? It's $154 million.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Which is astronomical. And the women are getting pennies in comparison.
Oh, my goodness. And I would like to give some perspective.
I was making that at a non-profit. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 She is getting non-profit wages for bringing in that amount of money to that area, to that team, to that. But then she obviously has outside endorsements, right?

Speaker 2 Like that's where she's making her money is through her other partnerships and deals, much the same way that you do, Alona. Yeah, I mean, she's the same as me.

Speaker 2 You know, we don't make much money from our sport.

Speaker 2 I think that what's crazy is that at a time, probably that 78K was actually pretty good, but the explosive rise of the WNBA from even like three years ago, four years ago, like it's, it hasn't risen to match that.

Speaker 2 That's been the issue that they're selling out stadiums, they're getting the fans in. She's bringing in so much money, and yet because of the salary cap, she could only make 78K.

Speaker 2 Like, that's that's crazy, and she definitely deserves more. But even that's kind of interesting, they're only going to move it up to so people like Asia Wilson are only making 250K.

Speaker 2 Like, they need to raise that to a million. Even then you're like, wow, I feel like they're worth more, which is like soccer players now are getting, you know, money like that.

Speaker 2 So, they're currently trying to raise the WMBA salary cap to a million. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay. Okay.
From 250K. But it'll still be different for rookies.
Is that what you were saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, I imagine I don't know if they're going to keep their rookie thing, but our agent Rianne can speak on it more.

Speaker 2 When you're a rookie, you come in and you're only allowed to have a certain amount of pay. There's a cap for how much you're allowed to get paid.
That's why Kaylin Clark's there.

Speaker 2 Kaylin Clark should be getting the 250k, the max, but since she's considered a rookie still. And why do they have the caps for rookies? Is that to protect other players?

Speaker 2 Probably. I mean, probably to protect salary capsule, just such an interesting thing, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, we see it everywhere that they're kind of they're in the league that I played for in England and whatnot.

Speaker 2 I don't really know the reason why rookies are specific, but I imagine it's so that they don't like, oh, well, you know, you spent one season because you were drafted to this team, you spent one season there, but we'll bring you over here for this amount of money.

Speaker 2 No, it's almost like maybe to get the players to be at their teams for a bit for those three years while they're rookie, and then they can start negotiating for pay elsewhere.

Speaker 2 And the New York Liberty can pay this much, and then, you know, the Sparks can pay this much. I'm not sure.
I think that'd be interesting to figure out.

Speaker 2 Cameron Brink, who is

Speaker 2 another podcast host on Wave, she's the host straight to Cam, is you know, a WNBA player. And I imagine she's on this sort of salary.
So, like, kind of the same as me.

Speaker 2 We barely make any money in our sport.

Speaker 2 So, all of our money is in deals and we're just wheeling and dealing. I think Cameron Brink has done the most amount of partnerships of any WMBA athlete.
Something like that.

Speaker 2 She has the most partnerships. Yeah.
Like deals and brands. Like deals and brands.

Speaker 2 Yes. She's wheeling and dealing because they have to.
She's only making,

Speaker 2 I don't know. She's only making about 78K or less than that, you know, and she's, she has to work.
It's another job. It's what you talk about all the time.

Speaker 2 You can't just play your sport that you love and like make a living. You gotta.
You gotta grind on the side as well if that is not the thing. Well, if you guys have thoughts

Speaker 2 on, you salary cap and the expansion of the WMBA, let us know in the comments what you think about all of it and what these women should actually be getting paid. All the money in the world.

Speaker 2 All the money in the world. They're worth.
All right. Well, let's touch some grass.
Sometimes we take life a little too seriously. So this is our time to step back, really get your fists in the grass.

Speaker 2 And Olivia, I just saw that you posted a video.

Speaker 2 When you were in an Uber and they were blasting Christian rock music, how you doing? How are you feeling about that?

Speaker 2 It was kind of funny because this actually happens to me a lot where you clock it, where you're like, it's a good song. Like, that's like, and then you're like, oh, hold up.

Speaker 2 And you realize it's religious music. But I mean, we are raised Catholic, so we have a certain amount of like, we know the church music in that way.

Speaker 2 Whereas I'm like, damn, if we were listening to that kind of music, that stuff bumps, you know?

Speaker 2 But I mean, I made a video because the driver was not a good driver and just like strong starts, like strong stops. And my just kind of joke was, Yeah, no wonder he's blasting Christian rock music.

Speaker 2 We're gonna need Jesus to take the wheel on this one. This is not okay.

Speaker 2 Uh, but I don't know what do you guys think about that blasting Christian rock music when you get into an Uber. You could ask them to turn it off for sure if you wanted, but what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 Sometimes you can't tell it's Christian music or religious music. That one song, and he picked me up, and he took me.

Speaker 2 Love that. I'll bump that stuff.

Speaker 2 You're like, I wouldn't know. You know who could be Christian music? Who's the guy that sings ordinary? Oh, Alex Warren.
Alex Warren. He could be Christian music.

Speaker 2 He's got a little bit of a rasp to his voice. There's a quality to his music.
Not just the sounds, like even ordinary. Like, I know it's about his wife, but you could swing that

Speaker 2 in many ways. I think he has a future there as well.
If he needed to branch us in that direction. There's money in Christian music.
Okay.

Speaker 2 There's money in a lot of things. Who was it? Caleb,

Speaker 2 Caleb, what's his name? Caleb Heron?

Speaker 2 He's the funny comedian. He did a recent thing where he was like, if you see me do a Christian comedy, mind your business.
Just don't get in my bag.

Speaker 2 If y'all ever see me take a turn into Christian comedy,

Speaker 3 keep your mouth shut. Yeah, I'm buying a private jet.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of money in it. There's a lot of money in the church and whatnot.
So I just thought that was funny. I'm like, these, but

Speaker 2 the Christian music is elevated. Some of those songs are really good.
I mean, I'd be listening to them. Production quality.
It's production quality. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I actually don't listen to them, but I only listen to them on TikTok. You know, on TikTok, when they come up, like the one you had.
What's my one that one that I really like is I still bless you

Speaker 2 in the middle of the storm.

Speaker 2 Oh, I got some

Speaker 2 ask to bless you. And I'm like,

Speaker 2 oh my gosh. Amen.
You know,

Speaker 2 that's so funny. I just love the one that I put on that video, which is the uh, my God did not fail.
That shit is like,

Speaker 2 that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 God, I'm not. My God did not fail.
Okay,

Speaker 2 okay, fine. Testimony.

Speaker 2 I mean, that'll make you, that'll make you feel. That'll make you religious.
That'll make you swim a little bit. These, these, these Christian people are like, God, first.

Speaker 2 It's like, that's just good live music, though.

Speaker 2 They're listening to that. I would, too.
When we were in church, we had one lady at an organ. Right.

Speaker 2 Hitting that vibrato. She is hitting that.

Speaker 2 She's like that lady banging on the bus. That is how she sang.
And she was so loud. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so that's like, I almost think it is interesting. Music can like help you with.

Speaker 2 Music is a powerful thing. It helps you with your faith.
It helps you with how you think about things. Like,

Speaker 2 I really imagine, I wonder if in church, one time, you remember in church in catholic church we one time had people who were almost singing two upbeat and they made them switch do you remember that no some somebody was singing i think it was like that one family was singing something and then they switched back to that one woman oh

Speaker 2 i know exactly who you're talking about drama yes because they had like the little egg shakers and like they were finally bringing something back that was so good i love i was like what are we really bumping in here and then we went back you see people talk about online that were like raised super Christian or, you know, in certain denominations of the church where they were like, I thought that I was so religious.

Speaker 2 I thought I was so in tune with, you know, God and my religion. But then I went to a concert for the first time and I realized I just like

Speaker 2 live music, like collective effervescence.

Speaker 2 Like that's what was making them feel so spiritual was just connection to the people around them enjoying live music, like the most human thing that you can do. It was a, it wasn't about the religion.

Speaker 2 It was like, oh, I just liked live music like in a community around that.

Speaker 2 If we were raised in another church that had more lively music, I probably would have stayed around longer.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I do got to bring up the all-time banger, which is John 360. John 36.
I knew you were 26. 360.
Seneca

Speaker 2 loved the world.

Speaker 2 He gave it.

Speaker 2 Anyway, you guys, this is too much now.

Speaker 2 Basically, what I wanted to ask on is touching some grass with, you know, high, like car service, shared, shared car service drivers blasting like Christian music or like conservative radio.

Speaker 2 When we were in England and we got into that Uber, and the Uber driver had the news up to like volume 70, and it was just like Trump and some other like BBC presenter.

Speaker 2 And we're like, Could you turn it off?

Speaker 2 And he like got so angry at us. Oh, no, you even said, Can you just turn it down? We were like, Hey, can you just turn it down? Like, we just had a long day of recording and everything.

Speaker 2 And like, we hired this car for the service of taking us from one place to another. And we were like, Hey, sorry, sir, could you turn it down or turn it off?

Speaker 2 And he was like, I was listening to this before you came. Whoa, hello.
You are providing a service, though. I was like, whoa.
And I was like, oh, okay, could you just turn it down?

Speaker 2 He like doubles down and is like, could you, he was like, I was listening to this before you came here. And at that point, you are dropping us off where we live.

Speaker 2 You're about to find out where we operate and you're talking to us this way. And we were four women inside of a car, four big, broad, and we felt so small, so gross, so scared.
Like,

Speaker 2 what do you do in that situation? Nothing, I guess, but I hate that so much. You can report it to the company, but like

Speaker 2 it's just so scary. I imagine, I'm not sure, etiquette, but I imagine the etiquette is like if you're providing that service for the passenger, they're paying you,

Speaker 2 and they don't want to listen to something or just want you to turn something down,

Speaker 2 you should listen, you should do it.

Speaker 2 But then I'm like, oh, oh, well, it's your car,

Speaker 2 but you're choosing to ride Uber or whatever it is. You're choosing to do Uber.
I believe that they should listen to what your requests are.

Speaker 2 I personally didn't want to hear Trump say shit on my ride home. We got very silent after that.
It was kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 We still got silent because, like, there's nothing, you know, as women times, we also like, don't want to anger because who knows who this man could be?

Speaker 2 Who knows if he's going to all of a sudden, you know, act out. So we have to be almost,

Speaker 2 you, you almost get quiet. Like, what would I have been like? I wish if there was a man in who'd been like, no, turn this off.
But we were like,

Speaker 2 and if there was a man in there, he probably would have. He would have

Speaker 2 expected that, which is what's so extra messed up about it. But it's like, touch some grass, please.
Like, you are bringing people into your car.

Speaker 2 One, made us feel unsafe with what he was listening to. Like, right.
Like, you know, and then by reacting that way and doubling down was like so scary.

Speaker 2 So like, just like connect the reality and touch touch some grass as a person providing a service in that way. Just like, don't scare the women you are working with.

Speaker 2 Now say they're blasting an audio book.

Speaker 2 What are you doing?

Speaker 2 What's the quality of the book? What's the genre, I guess? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm like, you're jumping into a story then. I don't know what's happening.
Right. That's too much.
That's too much. One time I was in a car and this Uber driver went really kind of kooky on me.

Speaker 2 And he was talking about like it's all a simulation, it's all blah blah blah blah. And I was like, What is happening? And again, you get like scared.

Speaker 2 You're just like, No, for sure, man, a thousand percent. This is a simulation.
The devil, I thought, yeah, he'd be working, you know. I've never heard anything more true.

Speaker 2 But you, I'm like, don't murder me. Yeah, it's interesting.
I think you have to, it's almost self-preservation.

Speaker 2 You have to just kind of like get to where you're going in the chillest way possible, which isn't fun, but who knows how people are?

Speaker 2 I mean, one of my top tips is: you know, I never put my actual home address when I'm booking a ride.

Speaker 2 I do a couple of buildings over or whatever, just to, even if they're perfectly fine, who knows what kind of driver I'm going to get, but just to be so safe.

Speaker 2 Like, I, so that's a hot tip: just do a couple of addresses over and then I'll get out and wait for the driver to drive away before I start heading in any specific direction.

Speaker 2 Sometimes they're like lingering to, you know, get their next ride, ride and I like start freaking out. So it's just me in the street like, God, where was that address they wanted me to go to?

Speaker 2 As if it's on my house like two doors down. You know what I mean? I'm just like, ah, man, I wish my friend would text me back.
Just standing on the sidewalk waiting for them to go.

Speaker 2 But that's a hot tip. Never put your like actual address in there.

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Speaker 2 another thing, which would be something I never really encountered until I moved to Los Angeles, California, which is restaurants that during their daytime service have you wait in line to order, get a number, and then sit down.

Speaker 2 Have you come in contact with these?

Speaker 2 Yes, I have, but mostly in LA, actually.

Speaker 2 I feel like the ones I've been to have been in LA. Does a lot of people have to do that? I've been to Pine and Crane.
Yep, that's

Speaker 2 All Time.

Speaker 2 And a few others.

Speaker 2 And then you put in your thing and then they're like, and just tip here. I'm like, there's that funny comedian.

Speaker 2 I know I'm bringing up so many people on this spot, but that funny comedian, I think Robbie is her name. Yes, where she's like, You want me to tip 20% on this? At this point, I work here.

Speaker 2 What's your take?

Speaker 5 If I have to go up to order, I'm not tipping.

Speaker 5 You know, restaurants are all the self-sort, they're all self-served now. Zero percent.
Zero. At this point, I work there.

Speaker 2 We all know tipping in America is crazy.

Speaker 2 But then you're, it's just like, okay, well, I had to do all this, and and you still want that. And for me, it's like, you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant.

Speaker 2 Sit me down for the price of food in LA as well, like the price of a sandwich, let alone, like, God forbid you add avocado to it, but you want me to order that myself and then,

Speaker 2 you know, put tip on that and everything. But then, because I guess my biggest thing is if you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant.

Speaker 2 Because if I'm waiting in line to order and then I have to get my own water from the big dispenser,

Speaker 2 you're a cafeteria. You're not a restaurant.
And if you want to be a restaurant, if you want to serve restaurant prices, be a restaurant. Give me a waiter.

Speaker 2 And like, I just went to one yesterday, which is what's on the top of my mind. And the person who's

Speaker 2 a name.

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Drag them. Highly likely Highland Park.

Speaker 2 Was it good food?

Speaker 2 The breakfast burrito had whole cherry tomatoes in it, which did throw me. Like that was not a good sensory experience.
I was literally like picking them. It was a business lunch too.

Speaker 2 And I was like, sorry about this. And I'm like plucking them out one by one.
And they're like exploding in my fingers as I put them down on the plate. Were they cooked or raw?

Speaker 2 They were warm because they were inside of this breakfast burrito. Straight to jail.
Straight to jail. Straight to jail.
And then what I'm saying is I'm waiting in line in the hot sun.

Speaker 2 Nobody's coming along to bring menus. Like, you know, so they want you to walk up to the front of the line, grab a menu, come back to your spot in line.

Speaker 2 But anyway, it's like for me, the biggest thing is then, okay, I don't have a waiter. So when something is wrong, there's no one to turn to.

Speaker 2 You should be like, hey, so sorry, could I actually get that ketchup that I asked for?

Speaker 2 And in our case, the person I was dining with got served the wrong drink. And then the person was just gone.
They dropped it and they were gone.

Speaker 2 And we were like, oh, oh, no, you know, and like her, her drink actually went to somebody else who then was getting up at the same time to go back to the counter and they had to switch drinks.

Speaker 2 What are we doing? What are we doing? And we're tipping on that. It's a cafeteria.
That's my, that's my thoughts. There's also, like, there's a restaurant we went to at LA and a couple others.

Speaker 2 Sorry, LA roasting you today. But

Speaker 2 they add like a 4% charge to to checks and the reasoning is we add this four percent charge because we want our employees to have health insurance so i gotta pay i'm paying for their health insurance so do that so how about you help them out now so now and they're like you can totally take this four percent off oh now carol can't get her dental work done yeah god forbid and it's just include it into the price of the items they put it in yeah And I'm like, you're making us feel like a bad people.

Speaker 2 Like, just include, it's part of running a business is providing insurance to your full-time employees.

Speaker 2 Why is that not a business cost? Why is that an additional fee? I want to say we all also have such strong opinions on this because we all have worked in the service industry.

Speaker 2 I've been a waitress so many times over. I've been a bartender.
I've been all up and in that grind. I enjoyed giving good service.

Speaker 2 I was like, it was a fun puzzle to hack each table, the people you get to know, like being good at it, remembering orders. Like I took pride in that work.

Speaker 2 So I took pride in the tips that I made from that. That is a lot for people, though.
You are working for tips. So that's, that is a lot.
That's, you know, that's,

Speaker 2 it's a bit of a mental game. But then on the flip side of that, like this double-edged sword, when we were trying to eat in France, they don't work for tips.

Speaker 2 So they're not going to seat you because they're going to make their money from their salary, whether you're eating there or not. So the restaurant culture was very interesting.

Speaker 2 It was very French, as Alona and I kept saying, but they would have all these open tables and be like, we're booked.

Speaker 2 Sorry. And you'd walk by like an hour later, still completely empty.
You know what I mean? But because they're not working for tips, is my thought.

Speaker 2 They don't have to turn over tables to make their living. They're just kind of like, well,

Speaker 2 sorry.

Speaker 2 You don't need to be here. So I think it's, you know, there's no right answer, but I guess I prefer just like an attentive service that I am then happy to pay for.
Okay, fine. Order at a counter.

Speaker 2 I think it's, I think I have to be okay with it's not tipping 20, 15%. Is it $5?

Speaker 2 Is that crazy? Like ordering a drink at a bar. You're paying for ordering a drink at a bar.
That's even, I'm like, $1.

Speaker 2 But if it's at, we're at,

Speaker 2 you know, Pine and Crane, is it

Speaker 2 when it turned around 20%, is it putting in your own $6? You know, that's where like, I think you have to figure it out and also just be okay with that.

Speaker 2 Duh, it's a whole thing. And I can't trust some of my friends to pay for things.

Speaker 2 Like if we are getting shots at a bar and you're putting down 20 on a on a singular shot they're like pouring vodka into a shot glass yes and i'm like because i've also had some place where you get some crazy shot prices right and then i get the venmo the next morning i'm like how is this 40 for one shot what happened because they're tipping 20

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 I also wonder, you know, when you get wine places, like wine can be 80 bucks, 140 to 200 bucks a bottle for a bottle. Yeah.
And so why am I tipping 20% on that? You just opened that for me.

Speaker 2 Did you were you there smashing the grapes with your feet? And because that bottle, why am I giving you that? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What that bottle is retail.

Speaker 2 So, even though we're just getting three plates, because I got a bottle of wine, it brings the total up to 200 plus bucks. So then I'm tipping 40 bucks.

Speaker 2 But it's like, actually, the wine should, I feel like that shouldn't be in it.

Speaker 2 And we recognize that it is a flawed system and it is is not the service provider's faults. No right answer.
We do tip.

Speaker 2 I'd be tipsy. I mean, we like to.
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 I do tip.

Speaker 2 I do tip.

Speaker 2 I'm not happy about it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I will say, like, the people at the kind of cafeteria restaurants in LA that, you know, you do get to the counter, they are so lovely. You know, they are like, how are you?

Speaker 2 As if you're old friends. It's, I think, very LA, you know, and you're like, oh my God, have we met before? They're so nice.
So good. It's so good to see you.
Like that.

Speaker 2 So it is always a lovely experience, but it's just the restaurant experience as a whole is not complete in that way for me. I have one last note on this.
I was at Newark Airport the other day.

Speaker 2 Not the other day. It was a few months ago.

Speaker 2 And I was grabbing a chapstick from like a kiosk thing.

Speaker 2 The way it asked me if I would like to tip the service workers, I looked around, not a single soul in there. You were like, there's gotta be.
Oh, is it self-service? It was self-service.

Speaker 2 I was checking myself out. Oh, no.
And I was like, who's this gone? Who's this for? You're like, I'm being pranked right now. I hit zero so fast.
I was like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 Well, ladies, let's take a little visit to the coffee clutch, see what's percolating in pop culture. Meryl Streep, Anne Hathaway, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci are coming back for Devilwear's Prada 2.

Speaker 2 Wow. They really got them all there.
They got them all. And is it coincidence that this comes after we hear about Anna and Torz, you know, stepping down from the one position?

Speaker 2 wasn't this already in making when this was happening when was this announced

Speaker 2 was this uh two years ago who put this out it was probably just great timing

Speaker 2 who put this out who's responsible it's very recent news can't wait i'll be watching you love devil wars prada one right i haven't watched it often it's not one of my favorites i love it i i do enjoy ann athway i think her great work is um you know princess diaries and ella enchanted to be sure i love devil wars prada i quote it all the the time all the time i think just especially in why is no one ready

Speaker 2 where are the belts for this

Speaker 2 why is no one ready that's my favorite i do that all the time and then also by all means move at a glacial pace you know how that thrills me i love that one i like florals for spring groundbreaking groundbreaking

Speaker 2 question for the group who is the villain in that movie the boyfriend the correct answer is her chef boyfriend who's a chef and yet serves her the most burnt grilled cheese you've ever seen in your freaking life and is evil the entire movie.

Speaker 2 Oh, you can have a career, but she can't.

Speaker 2 Was she also though working too much? But it was like she was following her dreams. So, and she was still being an attentive friend, I'm pretty sure.
Or was she giving them gifts?

Speaker 2 Maybe we all got to re-watch this movie before the second one comes out. But I will be in the theaters.
I will actually buy a ticket to watch us in the theaters. Oh, feels like a good one.

Speaker 2 You know me. I got my movie subscription.
I'm in that theater. I went last week because I got to get my money's worth.
You already lost it. AMC will go over for like four months there.
No.

Speaker 2 I'm making up for it now. Don't worry.

Speaker 2 I want to see the new Fantastic Four. Well, we loved the Fantastic Four from many years ago, the Silver Surfer movie.

Speaker 2 Remember that one? Jessica Albo. Did we love that? Are you saying stuff right now? I loved it.
I watch that movie all the time. I watch that a lot.
I watch that a lot.

Speaker 2 Just got a lot of people. Very sexy people.

Speaker 2 I remember it. Oh, I don't know.
I got to watch that. I'll watch that tonight then.
Let me put that on my list. And then they like switch.
When was the last time you think you watched that?

Speaker 2 I mean, a bunch of years ago, but I watched it a lot growing up. Chris

Speaker 2 Evans.

Speaker 2 Chris Evans, Captain America. What are you doing here? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Why are you here and now you're Captain America? Whatever. Why haven't we watched that recently? That's weird.

Speaker 2 Maybe we should watch it again. Yeah, I'll watch it tonight.
I'll turn it on. The new one comes back.
We'll turn it on. The trailer does look very cool.
The aesthetics of the movie look very cool.

Speaker 2 It's Marvel. I'm locked in.
You know, I'm sad. Alona, you just watched K-pop Demon Hunters, right? That was really fun.
I highly suggest it. Really good.

Speaker 2 It was like, everything was quirky, well, well thought out. Songs were great.
Singing was great. Question.
Yep. What is K-pop demon

Speaker 2 hunters? Wouldn't you like to know? How did you go watch it? I told you to watch it. It's quirky and funny.
You know I'm watching Love Island right now. I cannot be clocked in on anything else.

Speaker 2 So what is this? Is it like a game show?

Speaker 4 The world will know you as pop stars.

Speaker 4 You will be hunters.

Speaker 2 It's a movie. Oh.

Speaker 2 Animated. Very cool animation, I will say.
Like halfway between that sort of

Speaker 2 anime with

Speaker 2 classic animation, like not fully anime. I don't want to give the storyline away, but they're demon hunters and k-pop stars.

Speaker 2 The title really says it all. Dream, okay, yeah, that's a bit on the nose, but all right.
But it's a movie. The songs are good.
Yeah, it's a movie. Okay, then I can lock in and watch that.
No problem.

Speaker 2 No, it's very fun. Yeah.
Okay, fun. Is there music in it, obviously? Because it's K-pop.
Yes, of course, of course. Speaking about Korean pop music, Korean pop music adjacent, Cat's Eye.

Speaker 2 Hands off, Cabriella.

Speaker 2 Cabriela, hands off, Cabiola, La. They're coming out with a bunch of new music.
What are our thoughts? Yes. Hands off, Gabriella.

Speaker 2 I love Cat's Eye.

Speaker 2 Do I stream their music? Not really. Am I all over the socials? Absolutely.
Yeah. I have been streaming Game Boy.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 and Gabriella. I like Game Boy a lot.
Gabriella is such an earworm. Like, from the first time I listened to that, I was like, ooh, that's going to be with me.
I really like that one. Personally.

Speaker 2 I'm not over gnarly. Not over it.
Love that. Okay.
It was tough at first, and now I get it.

Speaker 2 I get it. I get it.
Took a few listens. Now I get it.
The dance is so cool.

Speaker 2 They do do an amazing job on social media. They're very on it.
They get it.

Speaker 2 With the dancing, the, you know, the single cams or the following one person throughout the dancing and whatnot and get to know them. Do you have a favorite member?

Speaker 2 Megan.

Speaker 2 I really love that girl down. Really?

Speaker 2 She's weird, but I love her. I really enjoy, is her name Daniella? Yeah.
Ah, yes, yes, yes. I love her.
That girl can dance. She's a great dancer.
I like her facial expressions, too.

Speaker 2 She does a great facial, like, she does a great performance while dancing, and she's an unreal dancer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 She's very cool. Do they have a song called Mean Girls off their album? EP? Yes.
Oh, what's this release? What's an EP?

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 an EP is kind of like almost like a mini album where it's

Speaker 2 oftentimes I think artists put out EPs as a way to like delay an album. So when they get more fans from all the EPs and their debut album does better.
I don't fuck with all the EPs everywhere.

Speaker 2 I'm like, put out an album.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Okay. I asked about the Mean Girls thing because didn't they have a member that you really like, Olivia? Olivia.
What's her name?

Speaker 2 Who she's now Adela. She's her own artist.
Wasn't like Mean Girls a thing from that too? I'd love to explain this. Please do.

Speaker 2 Adele has a song in which she says, like,

Speaker 2 because she got labeled the mean girl after the documentary.

Speaker 2 And I think it might be just like kind of a coincidence because in the Cat's Eyes Mean Girl song, they're talking about all sorts of girls, like mean girls, queen girls. Oh, right, right.

Speaker 2 So it's like how every woman, no matter what their label is, is like beautiful and worthy.

Speaker 2 I particularly love, they've got a line, God bless the tea girls and all the in-between girls. So they're really just like, it's such like an all-encompassing song for women.
It's so wonderful.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's an outright like, you know, support of trans people. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2 Wait, what do they say? God bless the tea girls. God bless the tea girls and all the in-between girls for transgender girls.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 2 In between, non-binary, whatever you'd like, you know, people who don't fit into one thing. Are they getting backlash for that?

Speaker 2 I don't, I haven't seen any, but the writer or producer of the song has shared online that while he was trying to sell it, a lot of artists wanted it, but they wanted to change that line specifically to take it out, and he refused to sell it to them.

Speaker 2 I do like

Speaker 2 Cat's Eye and that they still, because we grew up watching K-pop, and it's a very, K-pop can be a very, like, produced, like they have to all say the right things, they have to all act a certain way.

Speaker 2 And I've liked about Cat's Eye, like, even watching them just. be themselves with each other.
They just like,

Speaker 2 they like swear at each other, they joke with each other. They're still like being an American, like themselves, which I really like.

Speaker 2 I was afraid that they'd be more controlled, kind of, as we've seen in K-pop, but I like that they're kind of still holding on to that and kind of and being themselves. I enjoy that about them.

Speaker 2 I think they're doing a good job of leaning into that, you know, and capitalizing on the girls' personalities as individuals. Whereas I think...

Speaker 2 Maybe I'm wrong, but when people start to have like their favorites in traditional K-pop groups where they're so regimented and they still have to play a part, it's because the fans are finding the tiniest moments of these, of these K-pop idols' personality on, you know, paparazzi cams or little things they've said on videos.

Speaker 2 And they find those little bits and they run with it and they become their favorite idols.

Speaker 2 Whereas I think they're allowing the cat's eye girlies to just be themselves and people get to be fully, you know, in this group and getting to know these women. Yeah, I enjoy it.

Speaker 2 What's huge is that two of the members have come out as bisexual.

Speaker 2 And we haven't really seen that in K-pop. Very exciting.
It is a like Christian country. And even for the straight idols, you can't even be seen dating.
Right. Like it is so

Speaker 2 tight. It is, I don't know the right word, but I'm so excited that these girls are able to express themselves.

Speaker 2 And they're doing a ton of promotion in Korea, though, too, because they're going on all like the shows. Like all the

Speaker 2 SPS Gaiao Dejun or whatever it's called. Like they're doing it as well.
So it's kind of like the weekly shows. Yeah, the weekly shows.

Speaker 2 They're doing it.

Speaker 2 The variety shows, right? Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 Ah, very good. Good for them.
Very exciting. Love them.
Good for them. They're changing the narrative and they're dancing really well doing it.

Speaker 2 I think this will just have to lead into a bigger K-pop conversation in one episode. If you want that.
Let's transition into a little tea time, hear what's going on in our lives.

Speaker 2 Ilona, you have a docuseries that has been announced with Hello Sunshine. Congratulations, darling.
Thank you. Thank you.
And you are currently, I mean, we, I am, I'm on this project as well.

Speaker 2 And we are currently talking to distributors and having conversations on where this docuseries will live.

Speaker 2 I think it's been a bit of an interesting process, but it's been very cool to have these conversations and kind of talk about what we're doing with this show and the story that we're telling, what's been shot and what we want to shoot.

Speaker 2 Yeah. To kind of get them excited for it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's been a lot of meetings, you know, going around just kind of telling people like what's, I think, why our documentary is going to be something, you know, people are going to want to watch and why it should be on their program.

Speaker 2 It's been fun because every time I kind of get to share a little bit more, I feel like you get more comfortable as you do things. And it's been about, you know,

Speaker 2 not like selling myself, but like

Speaker 2 there, there's a story here that I want people to know, and there's a story that I think people are going to love to see. And so, I hope other people, you know, brands see that.
And I think they will.

Speaker 2 I think they're

Speaker 2 there. It's going to be, I, I am, what I, what I imagine is it's going to be a really fun documentary, and people are going to want to watch it.

Speaker 2 There's so much about me that people don't know or that I just don't share.

Speaker 2 I mean, I am an open book in many ways, but I think there's been a lot, especially this year, that has happened that it's like

Speaker 2 I haven't put into words or I haven't really shared online. So

Speaker 2 I'm excited to, you know, get that out there for some because I think, especially being an athlete, we're thought of, you know,

Speaker 2 in certain ways. And this is just another way to tell a female athlete's story.
And I think it's going to be such a fun story because it's going to be a premium sports documentary for sure.

Speaker 2 We're getting that sports angle, but you are so much more than just the rugby because you have to be.

Speaker 2 So, I think in this, we're getting so much wonderful texture and about you and your life and not the drama outside, but just like what it means to be you and the day-to-day.

Speaker 2 And the, it's going to be fun. It's just not going to be like sports and the grind.
And there'll be a lot of that, but it is also fun and the families involved and us being goofy and

Speaker 2 you were recently looking through like uh old home clips for it huh

Speaker 2 it was a very fun process because i want to get them i've been shooting uh for the past couple years now since tokyo i've shot a bunch of horizontal footage 4k just on my phone of you when you're doing cool things because in my brain i've always been like

Speaker 2 Either someone's making a documentary of Alona or I'll do it. So I gotta have, I gotta have the clips for it.
So I've been shooting footage for years now.

Speaker 2 And so I have it all on this drive that, you know, with Hello Sunshine, I was like, hey guys, guess what I got?

Speaker 2 Stuff because I've been shooting it either whether I was going to make this film or we're going to have an unreal partner like you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so I was doing that, but then another part of that was I wanted to give them home video footage. I think that's really important to their story.
We were just home in Vermont recording

Speaker 2 and you had the cameras with you in your childhood bedroom and, you know, you were crying.

Speaker 2 You were going through beautiful things and and you were just kind of talking and telling stories and i think it's going to be this really beautiful touch point on who alona is and who she was to get to where you are now so i wanted to make sure that they had actual video footage and not just photos of that time of little alona And a little Alona alongside her two sisters, alongside her mom and dad and the community that kind of, you know, built you.

Speaker 2 Right. So I was going through about like six hours of footage.
Maybe it's five, about five hours of footage.

Speaker 2 And I cut it down to moments of you because there was a lot of other stuff. Alona never wanted to wear underwear as a child.

Speaker 2 I think it was a sensory thing, so you got to cut around that where she just was like dress on, no underwear, going down a slide, leg spread. You know what I mean? You gotta, I gotta cut around that.

Speaker 2 And I'll be real, that's me right now as well. That's her town.
She's wearing a long dress, not wearing underwear.

Speaker 2 Okay, little Alona knew us up. What's that? A euphoria audio that's like Maddie knew who she was from a very young age.

Speaker 2 That's Alona.

Speaker 2 That's me.

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Speaker 2 So that was a very cool process to go and see all of us so little. And there's these clips of me being like, these are my sisters.
And there's Alona going, that's my sister. And that's my sister.

Speaker 2 And we're just so little.

Speaker 2 And to be doing seeing what we're doing today as sisters it was very cool on video once again but that was also an emotional process to watch us so little and where we were and just like seeing us as just girls in the world for the first time figuring out with each other by each other's sides playing in the living room and i'm so glad that mom and dad had the forethought to just there's a whole segment of dad just rolling on us playing in the living room you know jumping on the couches running around you you've taught we have a scarf that we're like an expensive scarf dad keeps going, that's expensive.

Speaker 2 Okay. Like it's this expensive scarf of moms that we're playing as if one of us is a dog and we're walking us through the living room, you know? And dad's just kind of being like, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 2 They're having fun. It's all good.
So it's very special moments that I was able to cut down for the documentary.

Speaker 2 I am interested though, because I think this will be, I wonder if it'll feel like invasive, vulnerable. Like, will it feel that way when it comes out?

Speaker 2 I'm like, ooh, you know, they're, everyone's going to see that.

Speaker 2 Everyone's going to, you know, judge me or know all of these feelings and they're going to get to make their opinions about how I feel right now.

Speaker 2 I do get nervous about that because I have been feeling some ways this year that I'm, not that I'm not proud of, but I feel very torn about. And so people are going to see this online.

Speaker 2 And I want to make sure like I'm putting.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm going to be put in a good light because I think I'm a good person, but like, also, I want to put the sport in a good light.

Speaker 2 That's my thing is, you know, this documentary is because we're leading against the the World Cup. So I want to make sure the sport's being shown well, no matter, you know, how I'm feeling right now.

Speaker 2 So I am afraid that it's going to be a very like

Speaker 2 going to show everything. I don't, it's not going to show everything, but it will.
People will get it to really see an inside look about me.

Speaker 2 And I, that does, doesn't worry me so much, but it is interesting. I think that's an incredibly human.

Speaker 2 reaction and thing to be nervous about but i almost think too that it is special that you have allowed these cameras in to tell this story of how you've been feeling torn because that's incredibly human and that's what you're actually going through and i think that we're capturing it in a very

Speaker 2 like sensitive way so i think it's kind of cool to tell this story because it isn't just like i don't know i think there's a lot of cliches when it comes to sports stories and i think you are your own story and this is i'm so excited that it's being told in this way but that's so normal to be nervous yeah i uh I'm going to be interested when we get to that point where we're like, you know, looking over the drafts and seeing how it is.

Speaker 2 But I do think I am excited also to just like watch it. And then later on years from now, I'll show my kids and then show my grandkids, you know, I think it'll be cool.

Speaker 2 And then I want multiple seasons. Sorry, I want a season two, season three.

Speaker 2 There's more to be told about Alona Marr. I think it will.

Speaker 2 I think what we are setting it up for this is it leading into that, you know, but and then when I, you know, decide when when I go back to play for LA, like that's a season there as well to see somebody who's going for hopefully their third Olympics and who had just an amazing last Olympics where they won a medal.

Speaker 2 That's, that's a story to tell, the pressure on there, the pressure I feel constantly,

Speaker 2 I think will be a whole other thing to really dive into. I think in this season and what you're filming, you're talking about something that's very nuanced, you know?

Speaker 2 And I think you've been describing it in that way where you're getting all the different angles but I will say there are people who are just gonna like not even listen to it and just think what they want to think but you've been putting in so much work and speaking so eloquently to like actually like describe what is going on and not just be like

Speaker 2 you know like

Speaker 2 so it's you're taking a risk by putting it out there but I think it's a

Speaker 2 a calculated one and it's it's your story you know like you have a right to share it and you're not the only person that feels like this too, you know, there will be people that relate and it will be so thankful for you for talking about your truth.

Speaker 2 And I'm excited for us to find the right partner to bring this

Speaker 2 story to the world with Hello Sunshine. But on that, which will also be captured on the dock, you are entering World Cup camp soon.

Speaker 2 And so with that, I would love to know, Adriana, how are you going to spend your time while Adriana and Lona's in camp?

Speaker 2 I am going to the hampton's and i'm gonna go watch alona play in dc

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 sorry and i will be there to hold her while she is going through this all and give her my support right right right

Speaker 2 um yeah i join i joined world cup prep uh july 6th and it's about 10 10 12 weeks we'll be together 10 12 that's a daunting amount of time that's a daunting i thought six weeks for pack four was daunting i'm even more daunt

Speaker 2 it's 10 weeks away from home like anything is going to be daunting with that amount of time and you're playing a physical sport that's gonna be hard on the body and the mental going into the world stage of rugby that's a lot uh yeah so 10 weeks My, I've been doing a lot of workouts and they're definitely bringing us in at more in shape.

Speaker 2 You know, it's like the workouts have been so tough, the running that I've been doing. So that one, because we don't have a lot of time together.

Speaker 2 We're not like other countries where they've been training consistently. We just come together for, you know, four weeks before the World Cup and then we have to go at it.

Speaker 2 So it's very much so going to be a

Speaker 2 packed schedule. I mean, it'll be, I think that's what's daunting is like, I know we're going to be doing so much contact.

Speaker 2 I know we're going to be doing so much running and so much this and this and this. And there'll be like no breaks.
And I just hope my body can take that.

Speaker 2 I am excited. I'm excited to get back with my teammates, get back with the girls.
I love, I love, I love them. They've been great.
I just like,

Speaker 2 I'm also somebody who maybe it's in my older age, but I'm not no longer that fresh-eyed like, oh my God, let's go do this together. Oh, we got to go do team building.
I'm like, I would rather sit

Speaker 2 in on my own and go out to dinner on my own. So I'm trying to find that balance, right? Of like team building versus needing my time away because it's going to to be, we're together so much.

Speaker 2 But you have had now, which is revolutionary for you, all new, two weeks at home in San Diego. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, luxury. How's that been?

Speaker 2 Oh, dude, it's been lit. I have just been working out.
I have been getting coffee. I've been going to this one gym that's kind of like a muscle gym.

Speaker 2 And I just go in there and I just like rep out arms for energy. I'm just with my dogs in there.

Speaker 2 I love it. I've shown them up.

Speaker 2 Like their warmout, your workout's their warm-up. Or wait, your warm-up's their workout.
Is that what's happening? Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I'm showing them up, but I have enjoyed wearing, it's not too much clothing, like showing my arms. And I think people, they're sometimes like, who the heck is that, big lady?

Speaker 2 And I'm like, yeah, what's up, dog? It's been very nice. I love it.
I love doing what I want to do.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to enjoy this time because it is going to, I'm going to be full go.

Speaker 2 It's been great. I love San Diego.
I think it's just a great place.

Speaker 2 Gonna enjoy it while I'm here. And then who knows where, you know, life will take me after the World Cup or whatnot.
Love it. Me?

Speaker 2 I'm gonna celebrate the 4th of July.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Actually, I'm just, I'm gonna be celebrating all of the people in this country that make America what it is. You know,

Speaker 2 my stuff. Gonna go to a bit of a pool party.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 2 And then a bit of a country bar in the evening.

Speaker 2 Oh, nice. Yeehaw.

Speaker 2 So that's going to be fun. Very fun.
It's going to be me. And then while you're in World Cup camp, I will also be officiating a wedding.
So I've been writing my script, getting lots of inspiration.

Speaker 2 And I keep looking up like ideas or other people's scripts and speeches on TikTok and whatnot. And I keep crying my eyes out.

Speaker 2 I just like, I think it's so beautiful watching these videos, like of these people choosing to marry one another and like unite their lives. And I'm just like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 I don't know where all this emotion is coming from. But so I've been doing that.
I want to do as great a job as I can.

Speaker 2 So if truly anybody watching this has any tips or tricks for me, please let me know. I am all ears.
I am all open. But that'll be really good.

Speaker 2 And if anyone needs an officiant, Olivia is ordained. I am ordained to officiate weddings.

Speaker 2 My rate is insane, though. You guys, I don't know if you can.
You can't afford her. You can't afford my services, but I speak very eloquently.
I like to think. So.
It's at comms major.

Speaker 2 you let me know i'll do your wedding i am intrigued to hear this actually so i will it be recorded probably probably they'll have a videographer uh but you guys will be my testing ground because

Speaker 2 uh it's i think it's to it's supposed to be a surprise for the bride and groom uh oh yeah yeah yeah you know so i do need to test it on people so well you can marry a drawdown i my two unmarried sisters they will be the ones i am asking wow you had to say that

Speaker 2 you had to say unmarried that's crazy dude i can say that right back to you. Oh.

Speaker 2 This is dirty. I'm married to the game.
I'm married to the grind. Sorry.

Speaker 2 I'm in a committed relationship to the grind. So.
Right. All right, ladies.
Would you like to play a little game of fair or flag? I would.

Speaker 2 Hit us.

Speaker 2 I'll start. Playing music, TikToks, any videos off of your phone in public.
Loudly.

Speaker 2 Flag.

Speaker 2 Flag, flag, flag. Giant flag.
There's no no reason for that. Especially on planes.
If you do it on planes. Oh, I do.
Do it on the subway.

Speaker 2 I just had a person like two seats over from me on a plane just like playing their videos, just like out loud. Nightmare.
Loudly, too. And nobody is like calling, what do you do?

Speaker 2 Do you flag down a host of like, cause I don't like, I got to sit here with you the whole time. Do I be like, you're being rude? But you're being, how do people not see that they're being rude?

Speaker 2 Do they just think their experience is better and more important than everybody else's? Maybe. Shared laundry forgetting clothing in a washer or dry vert for a long period of time.

Speaker 2 In the washer, that's a flag. First off, how could you even do that? It's not going to smell good.
You need to move that quickly. Right.

Speaker 2 Maybe in the dryer, it could be fair because you things got going on, but if it is shared, flag in a way because we're all trying to do our stuff.

Speaker 2 Flag.

Speaker 2 And you're just hurting yourself because people are going to move it or it's going to get stinky. How do you feel about people moving your laundry? Hate it.
I hate it, but again, it's your own fault.

Speaker 2 I do think that there should be like a buffer zone. Right.

Speaker 2 I set alarms. Yeah.
Well, you guys are very good at your laundry. You guys set alarms and get there right when it's done.

Speaker 2 I say hate it because I hate other people touching mine because I have an alarm. Like you say, I'm on it and I am there.
There is no reason.

Speaker 2 If it's because you're waiting by the thing for the buzzer to go off

Speaker 2 and then I'm there a minute later, you better be freaking for real don't touch my stuff so yeah setting alarms for yourself i mean but like then again if you forget every once in a blue moon that is so okay as well but mostly flag all right what about eating breakfast at 7-11 while traveling internationally why would that be a flag a hoe's got to save money and 7-11 in other countries is like a cool experience to do yeah i i don't think ever any even if it's a 7-eleven here shit you gotta eat something a good thing you're eating breakfast.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah. Most important meal of the day.
Fair. I would like to speak on 7-Elevens and these videos of people.
Please.

Speaker 2 The amount of unnecessary plastic consumption from these 7-Elevens is crazy work.

Speaker 2 Like the ice cups, but you're getting a drink out of another plastic cup. And I'm like, then what's the point? There's got to be a better system here.
There's so much plastic.

Speaker 2 Okay, how about one more?

Speaker 2 Rehearsing conversations. Fair.
What does that even mean? Like, you know, you're going to have like a serious talk with someone, and so you practice what you're going to say. Yeah, fair.

Speaker 2 Fair, but then again, sometimes I'm good off of like the top of the head, like we talked about with Alona. Like, sometimes it's better just to, like, go with the flow for me.

Speaker 2 Because then if I'm rehearsing too much, then I'll be too in my head. And I'm not actually thinking through the actual conversation that's happening in front of me.

Speaker 2 Because I'm thinking there's like points I got to hit. I've written out scripts before.
Whoa.

Speaker 2 For conversations. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, so fair to you. Very fair to me.
Fair.

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