Friendship Breakups, Recession Bush & Cowboy Romance

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Speaker 2 Jeez, you walked 13 miles out of bakery crawl? Yeah, because all of a sudden, like, we'd already done like 10 miles. And she's like, we have to get this cupcake that was three miles away.

Speaker 2 Olivia, what are you walking 13 miles for? I know. What? Smash burger.

Speaker 2 What am I walking for? Yeah, what are you walking 13 miles for?

Speaker 2 Tell us.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to House of Marr, a Wave Original. We have a few house rules for you.
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Speaker 2 Like and subscribe if you are listening. How are you? I am one of your hosts, Alona Marr.
And I'm another one of your hosts, Olivia Marr. And I'm the other host, Adriana Marr.

Speaker 2 Coming up on today's episode of House of Marr, we are talking recession bush, birds, and best friends. We're also diving into a few perfect tens, so stay tuned.
Let's get right into things.

Speaker 2 Let's touch some grass. And I think there's some people out there that should really go find some earth to touch because Sydney Sweeney, bless her heart, is selling her bathwater in bars of soap.

Speaker 2 Have you seen this? Selling her bathwater in bars of soap. Yeah, there's like drops of her bathwater, I'm pretty sure, into

Speaker 2 a product of a brand that she's been working with. And how are they proving that?

Speaker 2 that right keep going right but here's my thing I'm not judging Sydney right I'm judging people that are maybe gonna buy it because like that's genius that's that's been like good on her how much is she selling these bars for do we know they are eight dollars a pop for these bars of soap and because I now know like what happens behind the scenes of like a marketing campaign like this or how things get made did she get in a tub like fully clothed?

Speaker 2 How are we proving this? Like how how do we know that her bath water's in there? So she's doing this with like a soap brand that she's been working with. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you can buy this for eight bucks. They've put a few drops in.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 Okay. So my question is, would you ever do this, Alona? Yeah.
No, you're not doing it. That was a quick answer.
You wouldn't let me do that. No, you're not doing that.
Why not?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think I saw somewhere where like people were like, you know, feeling like it wasn't a very feminist move of her. Interesting.
But is feminism not also letting women do exactly what they want?

Speaker 2 And profiting. Yeah, and she's profiting profiting off.
And supporting them? Oh, and yeah, profiting off of men. Is that not a key feminist ideal? Yeah.
Indona? I'm going to go with no.

Speaker 2 I don't know if selling your bathwater in soap is particularly

Speaker 2 pushing feminism forward.

Speaker 2 My biggest question is, what does the FTC and the FDA have to say about this? Because is it even sanitary to include this bath water? I mean, it's a few drops.

Speaker 2 How can you prove that, are they proving that she's in it? Or is it like

Speaker 2 false advertising?

Speaker 2 I'm all about a woman making a buck. I bet they could just like say it's Sidney Sweeney's bathwater if she just like dips a finger in.
Oh, you know, so right, like legally, all sorts of little things.

Speaker 2 I bet it's just something like, oh, for it to legally be your bathwater, you have to have submerged this percentage of your body. Yes.
Some lawyer somewhere is like, what the hell is my job now?

Speaker 2 Right. Huh.
Well, I mean, there's always people in my DMs who are like, they want my

Speaker 2 dirty undergarments.

Speaker 2 They they want you know they want sprawl they want sports bras they want all sorts of weird stuff and there is money to be made in it right

Speaker 2 i don't i don't judge no no i don't judge i think i judge a little bit i judge people buying it a little bit i judge people buying it oh keba why are you into that

Speaker 2 kink shamer though are you that does that make you a kink shamer

Speaker 2 for judging that you know what i think that this is an acceptable time to

Speaker 2 shame

Speaker 2 remember that vine what um you can't kink shame me it's like kink shaming is my kink

Speaker 2 what do you do

Speaker 2 you know this kind of reminds me of those like loke loci bracelets where it was like the the water from the lowest the deep sea and then it was like soil from everest or something and i'm like everyone would cut into the water side and they're like i don't think there's any water in there yeah and i'm like is this actually just really soap with no bath water Is this the new bracelet?

Speaker 2 Interesting, the new loci bracelet. Loca bracelet.
I mean, Sydney, Sweeney, Girly, get your bag. And it gets men to take a shower.
Hey,

Speaker 2 we thought about that. Huge.
Thank you, Sydney.

Speaker 2 Hey, thank you, Sydney. I will say the mind power of men to like

Speaker 2 get this bar of soap and just be like, this is Sydney, Sweeney.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I have a pretty good imagination, but I wouldn't be able to imagine that. No.
She also worked with some other brands, too, where.

Speaker 2 I think she, in a way, uses her, the way that she's being sexualized so much to profit off of her sinners.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Keep working to sexualize her.
She's like, okay, fine. Might as well make a mic.
Yeah. Yeah.
I just happen to be very hot. It's going to be my body either way.
So.

Speaker 2 Olivia, you could do it if you got your tits out more. Again,

Speaker 2 fuck. It's complicated.
I've already started boobs talk. The drinking game starts again.
Take a sip, everyone. Take a sip.
We said tits.

Speaker 2 Early, too. Early on.
Early in touch grass.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. Olivia recently posted a video.
And what comment did you get? Yes.

Speaker 2 So I was popping off of my content in Miami. We know this.
Hopefully we saw it. I was feeling myself.
I was putting a little bit more out there than I normally do. Do like content and body.

Speaker 2 Content and body. And I think you could say there were, I was thirst trapping to a certain degree.
Yes? No? Do you agree?

Speaker 2 You do it all the time. You do it all the time.
So it's just like a-I thirst-trapped my ladies, yeah. Right.
No, it's for the, it's for the women. Absolutely.
Right.

Speaker 2 So I posted some fun videos, bathing suit content, whatever. This is what my body looks like.
And I got, well, one, I was confused.

Speaker 2 I even asked, we were at like that pool party and I was like now if someone comments woof on a post are they hyping you up or telling you look you look bad because to me when someone goes woof that's a bad thing no woof

Speaker 2 barking like they're barking like a good thing good thing we're barking now hyping you up for sure but tell me like does that not make sense woof like a woof like I think you just use it in that way interesting because that was good to know because I was like hey that's pretty rude I look pretty good in this why would they think why would you think they're you look like that?

Speaker 2 Because I was just like a hater on the internet telling me I looked bad in my comments, which I didn't believe them, so I was confused. Well, I got another DM off of something.
It was a DM.

Speaker 2 I don't think it was off of one of my posts. It was just like a cold DM.
It just said, you should do porn.

Speaker 2 I was like,

Speaker 2 sir.

Speaker 2 Sorry to say it again. Sorry, she has big tits.
Yeah, sorry. So I can't have big booze without being sexualized.
Let's touch some grass. Touch some grass.
Touch some grass, everybody.

Speaker 2 Have you heard like recession bushes in?

Speaker 2 oh wow i've seen this like the fact that like bushes are coming back is a recession indicator is that what this is why is it a recession less upkeep you know you're not paying money for waxes or razor blades or anything you're just letting it be you're

Speaker 2 out of money for it yeah a recession indicator hmm i've seen also some girls though who've gotten like lasered it all away who are now sad they did that oh i saw one young girl she said that she got it all lasered before her prefrontal cortex completely developed and now she yearns for a bush She yearns for a bush.

Speaker 2 Yes, that's what I said, where she yearns for a bush. Hmm.
We yearn for the bush. Do you guys yearn for a bush?

Speaker 2 You know, I have a bush at times.

Speaker 2 Recession's been happening my whole life, I guess.

Speaker 2 2008 really impacted her. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think that we come from a household, too, where our mom was always like, what are you? A young girl? Yeah. Women have hair.
Women have hair. That's what women look like.
And so, you know,

Speaker 2 we wouldn't want want to be fully bare around her like that.

Speaker 2 So I've also, I think we are also a lazy bunch. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Hello. I'm going to just point it out, Olivia, if you are listening.
I mean,

Speaker 2 I've been in some long-term relationships, you know? Like, I think you get comfortable, you get happy, you're with someone you love, and they accept you in all ways.

Speaker 2 And there's nothing wrong with a bush. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 I'm going to grab your bushes when I say this. There's nothing wrong with a little

Speaker 2 hair down there. Nothing wrong with a shag carpet.
No

Speaker 2 back to feminism. Men have it.
Yeah, why? Yeah, women have it.

Speaker 2 It's so natural and normal and yet viewed as disgusting or not sexy or uncleanly to have a bush. If it wasn't supposed to be there, it wouldn't be there, but it is supposed to be there.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's kind of like hair in your ear canal, I think. It protects stuff from maybe.
Is it supposed to protect you?

Speaker 2 Probably.

Speaker 2 Probably when we were like cavemen or something to get keep dirt from going up there. Because sometimes like...
I don't know.

Speaker 2 Because nowadays I I feel like it could be like a hygiene issue, you know, to have it or not have it when you have it. Like, if you're not cleaning it right, uh-oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because I do say, well, I do appreciate what, like, men keep things clean and trim, but a manscaping, you know? But a manscaping. But a manscaping.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 So I can also see, like, in the reverse, like, keep things clean if you want, but also do what you want down there. Do what you want.

Speaker 2 But also, don't make such rash decisions by like lasering your whole bush away. It's such a case.
That is no. I get lasering bikini lines.
Yeah, but I'm like everything

Speaker 2 for the rest of your life. It's like the equivalent of getting a tattoo.
Too young.

Speaker 2 Of course, because you can laser off a tattoo. You can't laser it back on.
Hair transplant to your bush.

Speaker 2 Say it from the top of your head.

Speaker 2 It's growing.

Speaker 2 Go to Turkey for a bush transplant. Oh, yeah.
They're like, oh, I got a hair transplant. You're like, where? You look completely normal.
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 She must have walking here.

Speaker 2 This should go in the episode, but this dad just reminded me of that.

Speaker 2 You know, when a man posts a thirsty, like, or like posts a thirst travel online, and girls in the TikTok comments are like, both my lips are smiling.

Speaker 2 I haven't, but I like the comments where it goes, oh, my clit just perked up.

Speaker 2 That's one of my favorite comments I've ever read in my life.

Speaker 2 It's thirsty comments on TikTok. Women, maybe it's women.
Women are the funniest ones about it. Hilarious.
They are hilarious. Like even the simple ones that are like, like,

Speaker 2 hi, louder than everybody else or like, hi, quiet. So I seem different than the other girls.

Speaker 2 Just so good. The funniest things on TikTok are the comments.
I was on TikTok the other day and for some reason the comments weren't loading, but the videos were.

Speaker 2 And it was not an enjoyable experience, actually. I was like, ugh.
It was a weird glitch. I don't know what was happening.

Speaker 2 And I think it feels like the weird way that like you do connect with other people via social media because it is just you scrolling, but having those comments, you feel connected to the other people that were liking and enjoying this video as well.

Speaker 2 Like, you don't feel so alone for like thirsting after someone or whatever. Not to get back to bushes.
No, please. Please.
What do you say when a man doesn't like it? Grow up. Heard.

Speaker 2 I don't care about your opinion. Okay.
Interesting. I love that.
What if he's, it's not his preference? Okay, what about my preference? Trim yours.

Speaker 2 How about you go bald? How about you laser it off? Is that a red flag, though, if his preference is nothing? I don't think it is in a lot lot of cases because it's so normalized. Right.

Speaker 2 Like when they're watching porn or when they're watching other things, like it's become just the way about it.

Speaker 2 So it's like almost normal for them not to see it. So it can easily just become their preference with how they're

Speaker 2 with what they're watching.

Speaker 2 Probably. I don't know.

Speaker 2 My preference with guys,

Speaker 2 shave your underarms. I hate men shave men underarms.
You want them to shave your underpins? That is a hot take, Adonna.

Speaker 2 Hate armpit hair on anyone. No, I hear you, especially when there's deodorant stuck in there on men.

Speaker 2 I heard about like feminism of like women, like who grow it out, because you do that.

Speaker 2 Guys, shave it off. I hate it.
I hate it. And even on women, I'm like, get it off.

Speaker 2 I've never heard this take before ever.

Speaker 2 Have a man with just

Speaker 2 your underarms. Okay, but then imagine them shaving and then it comes back and it's like that short.
Ew, what, Adriana? Shave every short. What are you thinking about their legs? Oh,

Speaker 2 that's fine. Hairy legs, but they're just the clearest underarms.
I remember so clearly watching high school musical as a kid and like it was like Troy or Chad and I was like, ew!

Speaker 2 Shave that.

Speaker 2 Handle that. Okay, he's like, I just like prefer.

Speaker 2 No push. Yeah, same.
I actually prefer no hair in my underarm. So handle that.
What are you handling?

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Interesting.

Speaker 2 I've had it before before where I've had men who prefer it shaved. And I will be like, okay,

Speaker 2 I'll do a balance with it.

Speaker 2 I'll keep it groomed, but

Speaker 2 I personally don't want it fully bare. I hear you.
So I think it's also about balancing. There are some things about like you, you don't like fully armpit hair.

Speaker 2 There's things that you have preferences for. So I don't think it's fully a red flag if they feel that way.
I think there's a conversation to be had and some maybe,

Speaker 2 you know, compromises to make.

Speaker 2 This is one video of a guy, I think he's British or something, where he's like saying,

Speaker 2 He's like, Oh, no, I don't want you down there. I haven't shaved, I haven't handled it.
It's like, I eat lollipops after they drop on the carpet. Lay down, girl.

Speaker 2 My man, my man, my man.

Speaker 2 Who do we be talking about? Bushes and tits. No, so like this is the strongest start to this episode.
Well, most of you are women listening, so

Speaker 2 we love you. We actually looked at our demographics.
95% of our listeners are women. And I'm not Sean.

Speaker 2 Bless you. Love that.
A safe space. This is a safe space.
Get your bushes out, Lee.

Speaker 2 I also fully need to say that when I made that line to camera about like, I'm going to twirl your bush when I say this, I made direct eye contact with our audio camera guy who's running behind my camera and laughing right now.

Speaker 2 That's my new favorite thing. And I'm going to hold your bush.
And he didn't blink. So

Speaker 2 you know what, let's see them armpits, man.

Speaker 2 Let's see who you got rocking with.

Speaker 2 One man in the room. You got one over here, too.
Hope y'all gotta get it.

Speaker 2 You better have bare armpits over there. Yeah, what's the armpit situation?

Speaker 2 This is workplace harassment.

Speaker 2 Right, right. Just saying.

Speaker 2 Quite serious, isn't it? Quite serious. Anyway.
Anyway, ladies.

Speaker 2 Should we roll into some tea time? Let's roll in. What's going on, guys?

Speaker 2 I'm laughing my sweet cheeks off. This is another reason you should be watching on YouTube to really hone in on this energy.
Feel it. Mona just spread her legs.
So this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 You're missing it. You're missing it.
She just spread her legs. That felt weird.
She's getting fine. I got a cameraman back there.

Speaker 2 Sorry about that, sir. Sorry about that.
Guys.

Speaker 2 Many harassment complaints after this. Hey guys, so you're not allowed to record here anymore.

Speaker 2 They don't let us back in New York City. Run up.

Speaker 2 God. I was quite serious.
Alma's gonna love this, Alma.

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Speaker 2 Should we go into some tea time? So we already said, but we are here in New York City.

Speaker 2 The greatest city in the world. Great city.
Greatest city in the world. If you make it here, you can make it anyway.
You make it anywhere.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Shoots are alive here. It's fun to be here all together.
Welcome to my home. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I'm a New Yorker.
No, I can't say that. I cut myself off, guys.
I didn't say that actually.

Speaker 2 She almost said she's a New Yorker. No, I didn't.
No. And I don't think people are always like, when you're here, like, maybe 10 years, would you call yourself a New Yorker? No.
You still wouldn't?

Speaker 2 No, because

Speaker 2 I think you have to be born and raised here to be a New Yorker. 10 years, you can say that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I also like.
don't think I'm going to make it 10 years. Oh.

Speaker 2 And I knew that moving to New York of that I'm going move here for my career and I'm gonna enjoy it, but I love Vermont so much that I could probably see myself moving back to Vermont

Speaker 2 or maybe try somewhere else. Like I've always loved going to other places living there.
So

Speaker 2 settling down in one city for the rest of your life is daunting to me, I will say. You like the possibility.
Yeah, but I love New York. It's so fun.
I've met wonderful friends here. I got very lucky.

Speaker 2 And for now, it's the greatest city in the world. You've subscribed to that grind.
Yeah, how's how's it feel to be back? I actually like it when the weather's nice.

Speaker 2 And Alona said, do you say you really like it here? Right. I always love coming to New York.
I think it's so cool. There's so much happening.
Feels like just, it's, you know, a place to be.

Speaker 2 I'm never here for long. I'm always here for like a day.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I never really get to get out there and experience, but I love, like, I just went on a drug through Central Park, went from one end to the other. I thought I was turning around.
She wasn't.

Speaker 2 I didn't.

Speaker 2 I went all the way from top to bottom and then I would look at my map like, oh my God, I got to be somewhere in a a half hour. But I love it.

Speaker 2 I think that there's so much to do, so many people to meet. I'd spend more time here.
I spent a summer here a little bit, but that's about it.

Speaker 2 But you used to play rugby here. I used to play rugby here, yeah.
In the Bronx, a team called the Village Lions. It was like my first kind of club rugby experience and I loved it.

Speaker 2 I loved like the vibe of it. After practice, we'd go to this bar called like Glackens or, and we'd get like these $8

Speaker 2 really strong drinks. It was like mostly, you know, vodka or tequila in it.
And then we would just, you know, chat and have so much fun after rugby. Like that, that's club rugby.

Speaker 2 It's like you go to play the rugby, but mostly it's for the socialness and fun vibe. And then we would go play tournaments and we'd come back into the city and party in the city.

Speaker 2 So I really loved, I think I also associate New York with like that really fun summer and I had a great time. So

Speaker 2 I think I could see myself spending more time here, but I don't know if I could live here

Speaker 2 as you get older. This is a good time.
We're here. You know, it's, it's summery.
It's the weather's nice.

Speaker 2 I think people start to feel a little bit nicer too, like New Yorkers and whatnot when the weather isn't as cold and wet and gray. But it does.

Speaker 2 The city feels so possibility, so full of possibility as I've spoken about before. But I could see you spending like a couple of weeks at a time here, just being a New Yorker for two seconds.

Speaker 2 Well, there's so much, like, especially in my job, there's a lot that can be done here. There's a lot in the media.
I mean, I do shoots here constantly. So it'd be good at times.

Speaker 2 I have like a home base here, home base in L.A. and whatnot.
So we'll see. But I don't know the city as well as you guys do.
Do you guys have a favorite spot? Like girls' dinner recommendations?

Speaker 2 Where are you getting that dirty martini? Where you getting the fries? What rooftop you checking out? So I moved away from here in 2022, early top of 2022, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I feel like the city is changing constantly post, also, especially post like pandemic. Like there was many changes that occurred when I was here for that.

Speaker 2 And so things continue to shift and a lot of some of my favorite places are no longer.

Speaker 2 But I'm still, I still love going out and adventuring and finding something new. You don't, it doesn't always have to be like a rooftop.

Speaker 2 Sometimes rooftops can be a bit like seamy, like wait in line to get to the top for expensive drinks. And it's kind of, eh, whatever.
Unless it's the Margaritaville one. Oh, you want to speak to that?

Speaker 2 I had these yucca fries at the top of Margaritaville in Times Square. In Times Square, yes.
Spooky. Don't go to like the fifth floor level.
You got to go to the rooftop. Sorry.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 Good for you. Hot New York City tip from a local, everyone.
The Margaritaville in Times Square.

Speaker 2 I got good recs. She got good recs.

Speaker 2 I love spending time in the West Village. One of my best friends lives there.

Speaker 2 And so I'm often down there drinking wine or we'll go to dinner and it's just fun exploring those streets and it's so cozy. You sent Nanny down there too.

Speaker 2 And then I recently stayed in the Lower East Side, like we talked about. And also I just like, I love stepping out and being in such a vibrant energy and vibe and just walking to find a cool place.

Speaker 2 But I have actually been stumbling upon a couple of the places that we would host after parties when I worked for Dr. Alex Schiller, like the sex doctor.

Speaker 2 We do our events and we go to these cool, cozy bars. And I'm like, how did you find this? How do you know about this? Why do you know the owner? Like, why? And I'm seeing more of those.

Speaker 2 And I would love to come revisit those as the, as my 30-year-old self instead of my, you know, post-graduation, kind of nervous, but just figuring it out self. So maybe we should go do that.

Speaker 2 We should go get a dirty martini somewhere. What one? Yeah, I'm down.
Let's do it. tonight.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 Adrian, do you have like a favorite bar?

Speaker 2 I love this one. It's called The Dead Rabbit.
I brought you there when you were here recently. It's this Irish pub on the bottom, but then it's like this elevated experience, like parlor on top.

Speaker 2 And they're like chipping the ice cubes and putting it to make them fit in your glass. You got to get the moonlit.
It's the most incredible cocktail I've ever had. Okay.
And like,

Speaker 2 you get the fries with all the different dipping. I love it.
It's a stark difference on the the bottom floor and the top floor, but both are incredible.

Speaker 2 It's down in Fi-Di. Yeah, literally on the bottom of Manhattan.
Like, you step out and you can kind of see

Speaker 2 the rivers. Something I've always wanted to do, if you guys want to come with me, is do the broad city thing of walking from the tippity top to the tippity bottom, like Alana and Abby do.

Speaker 2 How many miles is that? 12.2 or something. Why do you know that? That's amazing.
Because I know so many people who have done it. Oh, they've done it.
Oh, yeah. It's a huge trend.

Speaker 2 Oh, I want to do that. And do that.

Speaker 2 haven't done the full thing, but I've joined in on several people's walks.

Speaker 2 And that's always fun because it goes right through the Upper West Side. Yeah.
And I live on the Upper West Side, so I can always just like hop and meet them.

Speaker 2 And like, it's usually right when they're taking like a lunch break. So it's great for me.
So would you ever do it? I would do it.

Speaker 2 However, the last time I walked 12 miles, I kind of fucked up my ankle. So I'm a little nervous to do it again.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 When is this? Injury. When I was on a bakery crawl last year with our cousin how many miles was that 13.

Speaker 2 geez you went you walked 13 miles on a bakery crawl yeah because all of a sudden like we'd already done like 10 miles and she's like we have to get this cupcake that was three miles away and was the worst cupcake or the worst treat of the entire day and you were like no subway we have to walk no miles and i remember because what happened i don't want to actually get the injury does not make sense to talk about but i remember being like hey could we bust the last thing and she's like we're so we're so close and i was like she like wanted to make sure the whole day was walking yeah and so I did have to go to PT for that.

Speaker 2 So I'm a little nervous to

Speaker 2 play rugby.

Speaker 2 Walking. That is a serious

Speaker 2 crawl walking. Bakery crawl walking.
That is a seriously dangerous sport, guys. Be careful.
Well, you've got to be careful out there.

Speaker 2 I had a weak ankle already from when I twisted it. No, I hear you.
I'm

Speaker 2 it's dangerous out here. It is.
Careful of the bakery crawls, guys. Or you might end up actually crawling.
Olivia, what are you walking 13 miles for?

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 what smash burger

Speaker 2 oh and i just had a really good smash burger i hadn't had seventh street burgers before i love smash burgers we know this i go all over los angeles i know all the best spots but i hadn't had seventh street burger here i think i actually no that's a lie i had it i think when they first opened or something their what their first location i was sort of eh maybe their griddles weren't seasoned enough or something who knows but i went back recently and Oh my God, and I don't know if it's because I was so hungry after the Beyonce concert in New Jersey and I was dripping wet because it was dumping rain the entire time.

Speaker 2 That Smashburger almost made me see God. I just like, it was so good.
What am I walking for? Yeah, what are you walking 13 miles for?

Speaker 2 That was.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 What's like, what's something I always am eating? Get margarita. Oh, yeah.
I can walk a lot for margarita. You're walking for like a cold East Coast oyster.

Speaker 2 I would do an oyster walk for sure.

Speaker 2 Oyster walk. That's great, Olivia.
Yes, I'd join you. I constantly send Olivia a TikTok.
John doesn't like oysters. I constantly send Olivia oyster TikToks of like this girl.
I think, where was she?

Speaker 2 She's in like England right now. There's a woman in England.
She goes to these places and eats like 50 oysters in a sitting, which is

Speaker 2 she finds dollar oyster hours all over England and goes and I'm not, she puts away like hundreds of oysters.

Speaker 2 The servers are concerned. Yeah, an oyster walk would be a great idea.
A great walk.

Speaker 2 Because you just, because then you can get taste and flavors, and each place would probably do theirs a little bit different, or they'd have a house mignonette sauce or a housemade hot sauce that was a little bit different from each place.

Speaker 2 I love an oyster. A cold oyster.
One time we got served oysters

Speaker 2 on a platter of salt. Our family has not shut up about this.
And that place is no longer in business now. So I'm not saying that that's a happy on a platter of salt.
So they were almost like looform.

Speaker 2 They better be cold oysters. You gotta be cold and crispy, and just like salty, and like

Speaker 2 we like mignonette on the side, we like freshly shaved horseradish,

Speaker 2 lemon juice. We sometimes put cocktail sauce on, but not often.
I'm not a cocktail sauce. And then our family, we're so annoying.

Speaker 2 We need to find the peppermill wherever we go. And we're at an oyster place.
My mom is up looking around the bar for a peppermill.

Speaker 2 If they don't, if they're not bringing it up, or she'll pill, she actually has one she pulls out of her purse. Oh, yes.
They have a little mini one. Has its own little case in her purse.
Bless her.

Speaker 2 Can you believe that? Yep. Well, I can't it?

Speaker 2 It's literally you. I can't wait to do that oyster walk.
Let's do it. Let's make it a reality.

Speaker 2 Hey, John.

Speaker 2 I'm like, the way my mom's ankle is set up, she can't do it. No, she's got PT that day on her ankle.
Her bakery crawl. So my insurance doesn't cover her.

Speaker 2 Goodness me. Goodness.
All right. Well, let's pop into the reading now.

Speaker 2 A new segment? A new segment. We're big readers.

Speaker 2 We don't always read the most

Speaker 2 educational,

Speaker 2 actual educational books, but we read fun books, which I think you all will love as well. So this is a new segment.
We're just going to go over what books we're reading currently. Yes.

Speaker 2 Mine is something I just finished. And so I'm not currently reading anything.

Speaker 2 Literally last night.

Speaker 2 It's called Rewind It Back. It's by Liz Tom Ford.
It's the Windy City series. It's the fifth book, actually.
So I guess you could start with the first one. Oh.

Speaker 2 You've read it. Is this the Flight Attenna? The first one is A Flight attendant.
You haven't read the first one. No, I have read the whole thing.
Oh, you should have all. I've read the whole thing.

Speaker 2 But I think that this book might be my favorite out of all of them. Really? Okay.
It was really good.

Speaker 2 Like the premise is that they were like childhood sweethearts and then like this big tift happened and like you're kind of figuring out what it was.

Speaker 2 And then there's a little bit of groveling. It's just well written.
Nice. I love it.

Speaker 2 Are they enemies at all? Kind of at the beginning, but like, they still love each other.

Speaker 2 Even after all these years. What is that? What's that that trope called?

Speaker 2 Rekindled or something?

Speaker 2 Second chance?

Speaker 2 Second chance love. That's what that trope is called.
And I just enjoy it. It was just a fun read, but I'm kind of sad that the series is over.

Speaker 2 But you can tell that she's setting it up for the next series because all of a sudden it's like, well, the neighbor,

Speaker 2 her brother. Also, it is a hockey book.
I was going to say, I feel like this, we're missing some context here. But like, it's not so, so much about hockey.

Speaker 2 Do you watch hockey for how much hockey books you read?

Speaker 2 Have you ever watched a full hockey game?

Speaker 2 yes i have okay i went to some of uh our college's hockey games and i actually really love them yeah mostly for the fights um because for me not that i'm supporting the fighting but i'm like

Speaker 2 that's when it starts going on energy yeah i know i'm like when you were playing 15s and sometimes fights would break out like i haven't ever seen that in your rugby games I was like, ooh, dude, that was really fun.

Speaker 2 It was so fun. It was mostly Hannah Boderman shoving people when they tried to come for her on the field.
And I'm cheering for her. I think we need more of it in women's sports.
We're fighting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I do. Genuinely.
I think people, Americans want to see that. They love that.
It's ingrained in the culture of hockey and people love seeing it. It really is.
I won't be fighting.

Speaker 2 No. No.

Speaker 2 I actually should start to

Speaker 2 if people act like start doing dumb stuff to me.

Speaker 2 Are people doing dumb stuff to you during games? In PWR, there was a couple girls who would just do like little backhanded things to me. Like what? Hair pulling?

Speaker 2 One time she'd like shove my face into the ground. The play was over there.

Speaker 2 And then one time when I was scoring a try, this girl came in and like kind of kneaded, like, she wasn't going to stop the try being scored. And she like kneaded me in the head with her knee.

Speaker 2 And you can see me get up and I watch her walk away. I should have shoved her.
Yeah. I encourage you to shove her, actually.
So I think people want to see that.

Speaker 2 And for that, it's like, they're just jealous. And to that, it's like

Speaker 2 jealousy is a disease. Get well soon, bitch.

Speaker 2 Can you make a stink about this to the refs and to be like, or would you get yelled at because they're supposed to be the

Speaker 2 no? I mean, it's maybe I could do more. So I'm going to try to do more.
If something happens, World Cup advocate for yourself. Create a viral moment or something like that.

Speaker 2 But, I mean, you are being the bigger person by not

Speaker 2 meeting them at their level. Well, to me, if you're going to judge me, I'll just hit you harder later on or something like that.
So, get them back. No, that's just like so untasteful.

Speaker 2 That's just no, I know. Lack of class.
Lack of class. Anyway, okay, sorry.
Hockey book. No, I think I already sold it to everyone.
I think everyone's gonna read it.

Speaker 2 And I'll be reading her next series. Oh,

Speaker 2 they're going to a different town. And I think it's baseball.
So,

Speaker 2 Famously your favorite sport. Famously my favorite sport.

Speaker 2 I'll read any sports romance except for rugby. One time I read a rugby romance book and I was like, ooh.
Was it just not well written or something?

Speaker 2 No, it was more so that like rugby is a Lona's thing and it felt like almost wrong reading it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hear you. I do.
Anyway. Lona, what are we reading, Darlon?

Speaker 2 I actually read a great, great cowboy romance. Well, like rancher romance.
It's called Cash, a Lucky River Ranch book by Jessica Peterson. Oh,

Speaker 2 and I've read a couple cowboy romances. We read one

Speaker 2 like over winter time or a little before that, and it was too quick of a build. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Too quick of a payoff. Yeah, not enough.
I was like, we need more. So this one is

Speaker 2 Little Enemy Slovers.

Speaker 2 She,

Speaker 2 her and her dad are estranged, but her dad owns this massive ranch.

Speaker 2 But he dies and leaves the ranch to her with one stipulation that she has to live on the ranch for a year to get it. His foreman, though,

Speaker 2 is named Cash.

Speaker 2 And Cash also has four other brothers that sets up for a whole series. Oh, I thought it was about to be something else.

Speaker 2 Enemies to lovers because he sees the foreman and he is like, oh, well, he said he was going to leave the ranch to me. He's pissed, right? Right.

Speaker 2 And then she comes in in her sparkly cowboy boots, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 And turns out she's actually a really hard worker.

Speaker 2 And he sees her working so hard. At one point, this was a great point.
They both take two horses to go see the ranch. Oh no, her horse runs away.

Speaker 2 There's only one horse.

Speaker 2 Only one horse. Like the one bed trope.
There's only one horse. So they both get on that thing.
See.

Speaker 2 A horse ride a cowboy. Am I right?

Speaker 2 On a horse. Well, yeah.
This one was very good. It had the classic scene where they go to the local dive bar, you know.
And somebody else wants her.

Speaker 2 Somebody else wants her

Speaker 2 and they go dance and he pulls her. Some guy goes to ask her to dance and pulls her away.
Wow.

Speaker 2 And this was a slower build too. And then the scenes were great.
I gotta read this. It's really, it's good.
It's fun. It's fun.
And then it was definitely like pretty well written.

Speaker 2 I mean, you kind of knew what was happening.

Speaker 2 What was going to happen, you know,

Speaker 2 as is going to happen in any book. But you're, yeah, that's what makes it fun.
No, it was, it was really fun. I'm now on to the second one, which is called Wyatt.

Speaker 2 That's his name. That's his name.
I think that's how they're going by him. Pet on the nose, but okay.
Pet on the nose. They're hot cowboys.
I love it. Hoping to meet a cowboy in real life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we got to get to a ranch.

Speaker 2 It's a little spicy and a little

Speaker 2 kinky in there,

Speaker 2 so yeah, check that one out. Should we go to a ranch? Should we take a vacation to a ranch? I mean, we were trying to have a tropical sister vacation, but maybe we got to.
Maybe we go to a ranch.

Speaker 2 At some time, we should go to a ranch. Would you ride a horse?

Speaker 2 Absolutely, I would. Really? No, I don't know if I would.
Not until you've retired from rugby, please. Well,

Speaker 2 what's that quote from Sherlock Holmes where it's like, oh,

Speaker 2 you know what I'm saying? It's like

Speaker 2 to crafty in the middle.

Speaker 2 Interesting

Speaker 2 and crafty in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's why I don't trust them a little bit. They're big beasts.
I trot. Have you ever ridden on a horse? I've ridden on a pony.
Okay. Good.

Speaker 2 When was the last

Speaker 2 in the Netherlands when I was young? Oh, right. The only time I've been on a horse is also in the Netherlands.
Interesting. Okay.
Now I'm jealous.

Speaker 2 First time I tried to get on it, I fell off the other side. Really? Yeah, so then they had to get me an even smaller horse, and then I got on just fine.
Olivia, what are you reading?

Speaker 2 I've just finished, same thing, A Great Big, Beautiful Life by Emily Henry. Wow.
Yeah. Can I make a guess? You may.
What's up? Is it a cartoon cover with a pastel background?

Speaker 2 You bet your bottom dollar. Actually, I think it's a bit of a darker blue-purple this time.
Oh, she's chained. For her, yeah.
She has chains. Those are

Speaker 2 oh it's orange sorry i've just heard it's actually orange oh you're the black and white e-reader you wouldn't know yeah i know exactly what's what happens in it this one is so it's the latest by emily henry love her books i just there's something about the way she's the way she writes these kind of courtships.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm, I think I've talked about this. I feel like I'm the one being courted.
Like I'm having the banter. Like I have a crush on these characters.

Speaker 2 Like they just like, like when they, when they're just the, they're flirting, I feel like I'm flirting. And that's such a fun feeling when reading.

Speaker 2 this one is very cool when I first started it I thought I wasn't maybe gonna like it I was like oh maybe this is too different from our normal stuff it's not it's not too different but the way I've been describing it is that it's a classic Emily Henry combined with like

Speaker 2 a Taylor Jenkins read book the way she writes

Speaker 2 Daisy Jones and the sixth or Evelyn the seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo how it's like this backstory of like these people famous people's lives fictional people's lives mixed in what's good with what's going on so it's the normal characters falling in love, classic Emily Henry style.

Speaker 2 They're both writers,

Speaker 2 interviewing this iconic woman who grew up in the public eye, in the media. Her family was, you know, tabloid people and whatnot, and who went into hiding and nobody knew she existed anymore.

Speaker 2 But she seeks her out to like write this book about her.

Speaker 2 And so we are getting the love story that's happening in the present, as well as the woman's backstory and the woman's family's backstory and the right, like the fame of it all. It was so,

Speaker 2 it was so good i i think i rated it very highly i just it was cozy it was fun it was romantic and a bit of a twist from her normal stuff because that that that that other plot line running through it in the same way that like nicholas sparks books i feel like always have two plot lines one of my favorites being longest ride cowboy

Speaker 2 What that's an amazing movie. A movie.
The two plot lines in that are both incredible. It's like two, two for the price of one in that way.
So I sobbed at that movie. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 The first time I showed you the longest ride. I'm in that corner, like almost dry heaving.
It's a good movie. I think next up, I'm going to go for another iconic cartoon cover author, Abby Jimenez.

Speaker 2 I'm excited for you. Thank you.
I don't know if I've ever seen her. Have you read any of her? No.
I've only read one.

Speaker 2 I feel like it's very good. Yeah.
I read the, I think I read one, like the third or second one in a series. I didn't realize it was a series, but it, um,

Speaker 2 you can't tell, like, you can start wherever. But then she went and followed me on Instagram.

Speaker 2 Very cool i was honored and i've learned from that that she has like bakeries and she bakes a special cupcake that for each of her books like when they come out so you can go like have the book that like corresponds or have the cupcake that corresponds with her books so i gotta get to one of those put that on your next 13 mile my bakery girl

Speaker 2 love Shifting gears, it was recently National Best Friends Day. So let's dedicate the next section to our best friends.
Livy, tell us about your best friends. Ah,

Speaker 2 I love talking about my best friends. My best friend lives in California with me.
We met in college. We lived together.

Speaker 2 And I think that's how you know like a friendship is for real because we could live together with no consequences. It was the most beautiful time.
You know, there was an issue.

Speaker 2 It, it, like, making or breaking, like, it made and made stronger. So very blessed in that way.
Um,

Speaker 2 and then I just like, as I've gotten older, you just, you also, I think, start to gather, hopefully and luckily and blessed for me, like more friends and more besties from other parts of life so like i also have like my best friend here in the city like i've got my people that like are my people the ones i'm in contact with constantly whether it be sending memes or sending you know a text here or there and i've got like a great unbelievable group of gals um in los angeles that i am so blessed to have who are also

Speaker 2 most of them are single as well and we're very much still in the same places of life where we

Speaker 2 you know we go out to bars hoping to like maybe meet someone but also at the end of the day we still have each other And I had them at the, during my breakup.

Speaker 2 And after that, I had a summer full of them. And I think to say that saved my life is so dramatic, you know, but it was so

Speaker 2 important and so grounding and helpful to have those people physically with me to keep me laughing and giggling and know like, hey, it's going to be okay.

Speaker 2 Like I have all of these unbelievable women at the end of the day. And we've got the funniest group chat.
I love that you have these amazing women surrounding you. Love women.
Love women.

Speaker 2 Shout out to all all my women everywhere. And Joe.

Speaker 2 Love you. Noni, what about you? My best friend is Nicole Haverlin.
She is my teammate on the USA rugby team.

Speaker 2 I never like had, I have like longtime friends from like, you know, back in the day, but never somebody that I got to choose myself.

Speaker 2 You know, the friends I had from like, you know, even preschool to middle school and whatnot, like. they were more in my life and whatnot.
And like they were, those were my siblings in a way.

Speaker 2 Like in Catholic school, you know, it was a group of nine of us. So they were, you know, was forced proximity in a way.
So Nicole was the first one where I really got to choose her.

Speaker 2 Like that's my person. And she chose you.
And she chose me as well. That's what's beautiful.

Speaker 2 We first kind of met, you know, that summer when I was first there and vibed a little bit. Nothing too crazy.
And then

Speaker 2 the season, the next season came around, and that's when I felt like I was really more part of the team. It wasn't just coming in at the end for the last two tournaments.

Speaker 2 I feel like I felt like I was really part of it. And you can just get a vibe from somebody.
We're kind kind of vibing.

Speaker 2 And I remember we were about to go on tour, and I went up to her and I was like, you know, we asked for a roommate survey and I put you down as my first roommate option. She's like, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 I put you down as my first roommate option.

Speaker 2 And that kind of like kicked it off for us. We were roommates at our tour in Colorado, and it was kind of created a safe space for both of us.

Speaker 2 Like, we just all kind of showed our quirks and we figured out how to do it together. Like, we both just like to be, you know, butt naked in the room, like, really safe space.

Speaker 2 She is, you know, she'll say she's farting constantly. uh it's it's a it's a fart friendly space um

Speaker 2 and we just got along really well and then like

Speaker 2 afterwards i remember we like hung out that next weekend and i think it was like my first time ever having and i a best friend and i was really scared i was scared to like tell her like i think she you're my best friend she's like it sounds like i'm you know having my partner here my boyfriend but my girlfriend but i was i think we got drinks and i was like i just want you know like i think you're my best friend and she was like oh i think you're my best friend too oh that's so cute isn't that cute

Speaker 2 So I think we just collectively decided to like, you know, be each other's best friends. How did you know? Like, how did you feel?

Speaker 2 I think it's when you feel like you can be yourself around them and you don't feel judged and like whatever. You can tell them anything.

Speaker 2 I think, like, I've told Nicole more than I've even told you guys. Like, that's where I like know.

Speaker 2 That's when I just like, I think you know that that's your, your bestie, but she's also, she just doesn't judge. And

Speaker 2 it's just different, you know? Still kind of on that, but I think the sisters are best friends.

Speaker 2 Sisters are best friends, but

Speaker 2 you know, right. I don't know how to explain it, but she's just always been there.
And we've, you know, been through so much together.

Speaker 2 I think we've been through a lot of ups and downs, like times where it was like, what are you, why are you doing that? And then getting angry at each other, whatever.

Speaker 2 But we've continued to kind of power through it. And even when we've been far apart, it's always like knowing that, you know, we have her.

Speaker 2 She really has like been such a light in my life. And to finally have somebody I can call my own, like, I call her my soulmate because

Speaker 2 I sometimes wish that I was attracted to her. And like, I think we could have had a perfect marriage at this point.

Speaker 2 But I think that's also what makes it so pure and perfect is that you know, nothing that doesn't come between us. And we're just, you know, the closest.

Speaker 2 And that you still like see each other despite maybe the things that like maybe annoy you or you don't agree. Yeah, I mean, we know each other for sure

Speaker 2 all the time. Yeah.
For me, when I knew like with Bri in college, was that I kind of realized we'd spent like several days together non-stop. Like,

Speaker 2 like, like a stupid amount of time together. And I just had this realization randomly.
I remember I was like going up these stairs to our other friend's apartment. I was like, I don't get sick of you.

Speaker 2 Like, I just felt so at home and so normal. And I could say this craziest shit to her.
And she would not bat an eye. And she'd be like, bitch, me too.
Like, you're so valid for that.

Speaker 2 Like, I just felt heard and seen and comfortable in every way that I was like, oh, this is, this is what a best friend is. Like, that's what this feels like, you know?

Speaker 2 So, I would say, also, if you can stand a Europe trip with your friend, yeah,

Speaker 2 you do deserve a Euro trip, you couldn't, you're best friends. Italy and Spain together or something.

Speaker 2 Italy and Spain are so hot, and like I was doing most of the planning of it because she's like, She normally is like,

Speaker 2 I was like,

Speaker 2 You've got to tell the sleep talking, sweating. Oh my god,

Speaker 2 we're in Florence, Italy.

Speaker 2 A heat wave is hitting it. I think it's so AC, mind you.
To 107,

Speaker 2 and I get an Airbnb. I should have freaking checked, but this is the time where I'm kind of penny pinching, like not being the smartest.
I get an Airbnb that doesn't have any AC in it.

Speaker 2 Holy butter, is it hot in there? We are both butt-naked on the bed because we can't have anything touch us. The windows, I don't even know what's happening.
I think we have a fan on.

Speaker 2 I'm so hot that I sleepwalk to try to open the door. I'm butt-naked, like at the door, fiddling with the lock.

Speaker 2 And she's like, oh no,

Speaker 2 what's happening? And I was like, I got to get out of here. I got to get out of here.

Speaker 2 That really bonded us because that was so uncomfortable. And yet like we didn't get mad at each other.
We were just like, I found it funny in it.

Speaker 2 And then we go to, we end the trip in New York with Olivia to go to Pride. And I think, I guess Olivia remembers like she comes down her stairs to come get us into her apartment.

Speaker 2 And the relief I see when I, when I see her face, she's like, oh, God. And I get to be an AC.
Holy, that was, that was amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But she's, yeah, we've, we've done through, we've been through a lot together. We've been through two Olympics together, you know, tournaments all over the world together.

Speaker 2 We're always roommates at our tournaments. We just know each other so well.

Speaker 2 You know, it's been cool to be with her because she's been through different stuff with, you know, selections and whatnot and trying to figure out her path.

Speaker 2 So, and we're kind of going in two different directions now as well. Like, I'm, you know, it's not just rugby now for us.
It's not just, you know, USA Sevens.

Speaker 2 It's like, I'm doing this and this and this. And she's, you know, hasn't going to have to do this, this, this.
So it's been interesting that we're going to, our lives, I think, are changing.

Speaker 2 And it's not going to be as easy to be, you know, around each other. because you've been co-workers, too, for so many years.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a new chapter. A new chapter, I think, yeah.
Figuring out your friendship

Speaker 2 with all these changes. Sounds like your friendship will withstand.

Speaker 2 It doesn't seem daunting. Like, I'm not worried about it that we're going to change.
Like, she's, she's recently been making so many new friends. I'm like, she keeps trying to tell me a story.

Speaker 2 I'm like, who's this person? And who's this? Oh, I'm going to dinner with Jen now. Who's Jen? Yeah.
But I think it's just, I'm, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 She's, she's the loveliest, kindest person who just, her energy brings people in.

Speaker 2 And for her to, for somebody like that, who I think is so beautiful, so perfect, to choose me as her best friend is, it's such an honor. And I think she says the same about me.

Speaker 2 So I'm happy for her to make new friends, but I also always know I'm her number one. Hey, good.
You like, you can try to be friends with Nicole, but I'm here. Do you want to? I'm Numero Uno.

Speaker 2 Do Numero Uno. Don't call her your best friend.
I hate that.

Speaker 2 But she hates it too. Whenever somebody like calls her her bestie or like, even just, I, because I don't mess around with best friend.
Like like for me you have one or two best friends.

Speaker 2 You don't have many best friends. It's different for some people whenever people jokingly like oh they like when recently did like a bestie like oh my bestie's going away I was like you're who?

Speaker 2 You're who? Take that off. But even when I was with Dancer Stars with Alan and I would like I would call him my bestie, but I had to like let her know.

Speaker 2 I was like, Nicole, just like, you know, I'm just calling him my bestie. He's not really my bestie.

Speaker 2 I love him. He's my friend.
He's a good buddy, but you're my bestie, you know?

Speaker 2 But it's like, we, we always know that even no matter what, like to us that's my best friend i think you can have maybe you can have besties that's my best friend i love the difference between a best friend like full governmental best friend yes or you know besties the bestie the street turn

Speaker 2 yeah i love that if if she says i can't believe i'm marrying my best friend to her partner

Speaker 2 What are you going to do? What are you going to do when Brie does that? When she does that? Brie does it.

Speaker 2 She's for sure. She's going to do that, dude.
Yeah, I know. She's erasing her vows.

Speaker 2 You better be erasing those vows right now. I'm officiating that wedding, so I'm going to be, I'll be, I'll be watchful.
Liar.

Speaker 2 If that's what she chooses, okay.

Speaker 2 But it's a choice. You get up and leave the wedding.

Speaker 2 Like, yeah, I leave the officiating.

Speaker 2 You rip up your certificate of officiant or whatever. I close the booklet.
Well, we're done here. But I mean,

Speaker 2 Taryn is her best friend. They're life partners.
They're life partners.

Speaker 2 No, that's why I get that. We'll forgive it, I guess, now.
Maybe. You're objective.

Speaker 2 Adriana, you've been on kind of a different journey with your finding your best friendship and your friends in general. And I think a lot of people go through that too.

Speaker 2 And she said friends longer than you and I. Yes.

Speaker 2 So that's, can you speak to that? I find it interesting because so many people, I think, find their best friends later in life or like they're really close friends. I think.

Speaker 2 At least maybe our generation, a lot of people are like, no, I don't know anyone still from high school or friends with them. I'm still friends with people from middle school.

Speaker 2 Those are my best friends. I was somehow very lucky.

Speaker 2 I think we've talked about this. Middle school had some rough spots for me.
It was very brutal.

Speaker 2 And I wasn't maybe friends with these girls through every single year, but we found each other. I have three beautiful besties from middle school.

Speaker 2 Luckily, two of them are in New York City with me, which is such a blessing. One of them is so close to me.

Speaker 2 The other is in Brooklyn, so it's basically a long distance.

Speaker 2 And one is in Boston. And the one in Boston, Alyssa, we started becoming friends in sixth grade because she came up to me.

Speaker 2 She was in a ladybug t-shirt, gym class, and she goes, hey, is your birthday April 30th? That's a weird question. That's a weird opening.
And I was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 And she's like, oh, that's my birthday too.

Speaker 2 And so from then on, we were just kind of friends. And we found so many like odd similarities in our lives.
And like it was just beautiful to find these.

Speaker 2 And she was such a confidant in those tough years of middle and high school. Like I had

Speaker 2 rough years in middle school like socially, but then rough years in high school like personally. And she was like my number one confidant.
Interesting.

Speaker 2 I would go to her for like these, as you said with Brie of like you would go to her and be like, say this wild thing and be like, do you understand this? And I remember, I went to things for her.

Speaker 2 Like I was so scared. Like I didn't even tell you guys, or like, mom and dad.
And I was like, hey, like, yada, yada, yada happens.

Speaker 2 And she was just such a wonderful, like, open ear and like, ugh, like such a great, like, grounded person to have in my life.

Speaker 2 And it's not even about them, like, necessarily, like, relating, but as long as they understand and don't judge and just hear you and give you the space to like

Speaker 2 say these things and feel these things. And that, that's just as important.
Absolutely. And we've been long distance since college now, really.

Speaker 2 We work beautifully over video calls and I still fill her in on everything. Sometimes maybe a little late.

Speaker 2 And now I get into the problem where I tell so many people like fun things or like things that are happening with my life and I forget to tell her.

Speaker 2 I remember I didn't tell her about the podcast until it was like a week out from filming. And she was like, hey, what?

Speaker 2 Hey, hey, what? Cause I was about to be like, oh, I should talk about that on the podcast. And she thought I was joking.

Speaker 2 And based on her reaction, I was like, hey, I think I forgot to tell you this. Right.
But that's the, I think that's growing up, though.

Speaker 2 Things change. And then you feel like you're almost betraying that friendship because that's what that dynamic used to be.
But things do shift and change.

Speaker 2 And I've had to grapple with that a lot in my own best friendships and whatnot. And it's not a reflection on you or the other person.
Like we've spoken about before.

Speaker 2 It's just like things change and that's okay. But the fact that you still love each other and have one another, I think.
Yeah. I also got very lucky when I moved to New York.

Speaker 2 She had two roommates in college who moved really close to me. And when she was visiting once, we all went out together.
And I got along with these girls so well.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, hey, can you send me their numbers? And I texted them and we made plans. And we just had this beautiful, immediate friendship.
And they had just moved to the city.

Speaker 2 And they had become friends with their neighbors literally across the hall who had also just moved to the city. And we kind of created this little group.
And it was such a friend situation.

Speaker 2 You know, like two apartments literally across the hall from one another and then one girl who doesn't live in the building. You're the Phoebe.
I was the Phoebe. And it was such like a,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 an amazing time. I felt like I was in a movie for a few months.
I've just, it was very collegiate of how close we all lived to one another.

Speaker 2 Like we were just texting the group chat to be like, who wants to grab a drink? Let's do this. Let's do that.

Speaker 2 We all went to the Dominican Republic together and had an amazing and kind of seamless trip.

Speaker 2 And so I'm very grateful for those two girls who introduced me, but just the friendships that I've had with them are very special.

Speaker 2 And unfortunately, one is moving away to Chicago, bitch, but the other is staying, but moving 20 blocks away. Ugh.
So I'm surrounded by some really wonderful women.

Speaker 2 From what I've like heard, though, it's kind of been, you know, your friendships have been changing.

Speaker 2 Like, I think it's hard for even a friend you've known for so long, it sounds like it's changing in a way to me.

Speaker 2 Definitely like getting older, older, I've seen changes and I've had difficulties of adjusting. And, you know, me and it's not only me, but it's them.

Speaker 2 And it's, you know, you see what the influence of someone having a partner will do. And I'm someone who's never been in a relationship.

Speaker 2 And, you know, that also I think can difficult, make things more difficult. Like, I can't maybe see it.

Speaker 2 But I also, I hate, you know, doing saying that about myself because I'm like, I think I am very like level-minded when it comes to this.

Speaker 2 But priority shift, I think that's kind of what it comes down to.

Speaker 2 And I have felt a few times that like, I have been deprioritized, but I will say, like, I've spoken up and I've had very uncomfortable conversations with friends to be like,

Speaker 2 something is different. And

Speaker 2 one time I was even like, I feel like you don't like me anymore.

Speaker 2 And that

Speaker 2 was tough. And that took me months to kind of like get the courage to be like, hey.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But we are so much stronger for it now like when i was saying that like i was like this friendship is over you know and so i think it takes like finding that courage to be like

Speaker 2 just even address it yeah you know and because you're just in your own mind i think it's the same thing of when you are in a relationship you need to have these like little things

Speaker 2 be communicated and talked through absolutely I mean, we talk about it a lot though on this, like how much we're changing and how much we find ourselves.

Speaker 2 So like you, as you change this person, they're changing.

Speaker 2 And sometimes you might just not vibe and i think friendship breakups or friendship changing is also something that's very like normal you know like i think you're it's hard to like let go well they they were my they're they're my friend but like we're all changing and we're all kind of becoming different vibes yeah it's natural to grow up and maybe grow apart in some ways like you are becoming you've seen each other in so many phases of life and you've made it through all of those and you know you're continuing to grow and to become the women you're supposed to be like and with love and respect like if they're supposed to be there, they will be.

Speaker 2 And some friendships, like, you know, phase out. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
It's heartbreaking. Grow apart.
It is incredibly heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 Like, a friendship breakup where a friendship, like, kind of grow apart, that's, that shit hurts, like, a, like, like a relationship breakup. Because it is.

Speaker 2 It's almost like female friendships are almost deeper sometimes than, than

Speaker 2 the certain boyfriends I've had. You know what I mean? Like, that is,

Speaker 2 that is tough. That's, and I feel for that.
I think women go through that all the time.

Speaker 2 People aren't who you expect them to be or who you thought they were or they changed and they're allowed to change, but maybe they're not changing the way you want them, but you can't control that.

Speaker 2 Like, you just got to be yourself. And if you guys slot into each other's lives, but it's not easy.
No, I've only

Speaker 2 had one friendship breakup that really wrecked me. And I've, as I said, never been in a relationship, but I was...

Speaker 2 In that moment, I was like, this feels like a breakup. And it was a breakup, you know, but it was a platonic breakup.

Speaker 2 And it took me years to get get over it was between high school and college and so you know people always say like friendships will kind of break up then anyway but this was like there was a blow-up fight and it felt like you were kind of like

Speaker 2 losing a part of yourself you know absolutely and it was just

Speaker 2 i still like i think it was kind of just a situation of like time heals

Speaker 2 and I thought about it for like years after. It's the same thing as a breakup.
Like that person's no longer in your life, but you still have so much like love for them.

Speaker 2 And it's like, where do you put that love?

Speaker 2 Hello?

Speaker 2 Where do you put that love or like the things that you would want to tell them?

Speaker 2 Or like the things that's like, because you would tell them more than you would maybe like a boyfriend because they would understand it on a level that only a woman would.

Speaker 2 So, oh, this is pressing on something over here. Holy smokes.
Yeah. It's just like getting older is scary.

Speaker 2 And like, it's nice to get older and have the people that have seen you and all those faces like do that. And if like they're not,

Speaker 2 it's nice to still have people that have known you and loved you through every version of yourself.

Speaker 2 And if you don't have that anymore or in a way that you're used to or in a capacity that, you know, you've, you've felt for a long time, that's like, that's just as hard. Yeah.
You know?

Speaker 2 And applying

Speaker 2 you're a pretty crier. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, girl.

Speaker 2 No, I think it's about growing and like that's going to change. Like I do worry about that, you know, with Nicole.
Like I think our relationship will change.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're not gonna be together all the time. We're

Speaker 2 you know, gonna move here, there, whatever. I'm, I hope to make more, you know, more friends and whatnot.
So, I think it is also about taking action to keep those relationships.

Speaker 2 But there's some that you do need to let go of. Yeah, yeah, that's natural, and it's hard, but

Speaker 2 maybe it's best for both of you.

Speaker 2 Kiss your breast friend on the mouth today, yeah, kiss them, smack on the lips

Speaker 2 while Olivia

Speaker 2 dries her eyes. She first, the thing is, Olivia, Olivia loves her friends.

Speaker 2 I have so much love for her. She is

Speaker 2 genuine. If you become Olivia's friends, she will spend all the time with you.
She will truly like, she wants to hang out with you. I mean, never has a boyfriend gotten in the way of that.

Speaker 2 You can have a very, a very solid partner and she will make time for you. I think that's what it is.
It's loving so much and wanting to give so much.

Speaker 2 And then, like, not necessarily not getting it back all the time, but like, yeah, I just have a lot of love to give. So she does.

Speaker 2 She will give a lot to her friends, and it's a it's really a blessing to be friends with Olivia. I think anyone who gets that, I think is really

Speaker 2 very nice of them. Oh, no.
Oh, God, they're both crying. All of my friends.

Speaker 2 Guys, we need to go into a new segment. The wine down.
We need actually some wine.

Speaker 2 No, literally.

Speaker 2 We need all my wine. Oh my God.
Female friendship is so beautiful and important. And if you have male friends too,

Speaker 2 one of her friends is a male. I don't know why she's saying that.

Speaker 2 Thank you. This is Adriana's worst nightmare.

Speaker 2 I'll have it.

Speaker 2 No, you need to dump it. You're cheers with us and you need to take a sip on camera.
This is fun. This is why you need to be watching on YouTube.
Adriana is about to drink olive juice.

Speaker 2 Cheers. Cheers.

Speaker 2 Cheers.

Speaker 2 Adriana, take a sip. Take a sip.
This is my favorite form of content. You should see her eating an oyster.

Speaker 2 Cheers. Oh, you're gonna love it.

Speaker 2 No. You're gonna love it, Adriana?

Speaker 2 I hate you. Come on, be a classy bitch.

Speaker 2 Take a real sip. That's not a real fucking sip.
You let it touch your lips like church. I'll take it.
I'll take it. I'll take it.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Okay.

Speaker 2 Whatever. Double fisting for the next segment.
I am double fisting over here. All right, we're going to play Perfect 10, but best friend edition.

Speaker 2 So they are Perfect 10, but chronically late to everything, including things that really matter to you.

Speaker 2 It's not cool to be late. No, it's not.
We value timeliness. Yeah.
It's time to learn.

Speaker 2 Early is on time. On time is late.

Speaker 2 Except if you're the queen of Genofia.

Speaker 2 Are you merging now?

Speaker 2 Alona's merging her drinks. Hold on.
Keep going. You don't need a triple martini right now.
Can I say something about martinis? I heard this recently. Yeah.
Martinis are like tits. One is not enough.

Speaker 2 Take a drink. Hold on.

Speaker 2 One is not enough, and three is too many. Interesting herd.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to have a four-drink summer.

Speaker 2 People are shopping at two drinks.

Speaker 2 Let's get loose. Let's have a little bit more fun though.
Okay. We don't need to go home at 9.30.
Okay, is this to other people or is this about you? This is me and my friends. Okay, there we go.

Speaker 2 There we go. So best friends, perfect 10, but they only want two drinks.

Speaker 2 Negative two. You know what? I don't actually understand Derdy Martinis.
Okay, talk us through it. Sorry, this segment's going off their rails.
We'll get back to it.

Speaker 2 It's normal soup. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 It's meat. It's like vodka.
Do you even actually like the taste of it? I don't know if I actually like the taste of it. Love the taste of it.
You drink because it's cool. You sip pickle juice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's true. You got her there.
It's delicious. I don't know.
It does something to me.

Speaker 2 Okay, they're chronically late. They're perfect time, but they're chronically late.
That's disrespectful to your time. That's not, they don't like that.
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't be friends with that person.

Speaker 2 Honestly, a three i'll go five i judge people for that be better maybe they have a really good time when they get there i don't care seven and leah i need you to figure it out

Speaker 2 oh we're naming names she's had one sip of a martini she's coming for all of you she's messed up okay perfect 10 best friend but they get jealous when you have other close friends That's possessing me and not okay.

Speaker 2 Me.

Speaker 2 They're still 10. I don't know what the problem is.
Oh, that's interesting. Actually, maybe 11?

Speaker 2 I think that when you're first becoming friends, it can be like maybe you're not sure of your placement.

Speaker 2 But I think you have to also come to terms with

Speaker 2 it's good to have other people in your life. And also, you kind of should have that conversation of where you are at.
Like, you know, how do we, you know, how do we feel about each other?

Speaker 2 It's not like, it's almost like you're dating. Yeah.
You're with your best friend. It's like you're dating.
You have to figure out what this is. What is this? What are we?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can't be, but you can't be toxic and mess about it. Don't do that.
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 four

Speaker 2 five. I was for a five for major.
Well, I don't know if I have this many opinions on it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I want to say eight.

Speaker 2 I've had possessive friendships. So

Speaker 2 it's a lot. Okay.
Maybe I have haven't had something like that. I'm sorry.
You don't have to answer. Maybe I hold off on answering until I ever do.

Speaker 2 Okay, so we'll circle back, guys, after how many years.

Speaker 2 Maybe I am the possessive friend as well.

Speaker 2 I've told I can be together. Bologna's eating her garnishes, everyone.
Hey, she's got another glass, though.

Speaker 2 I'm going to read this. Perfect 10 best friend, but they bring their poorly trained dog to every hang.
The dog's hair gets on everything. Two.
You already know how we feel.

Speaker 2 So I was bit by dogs a couple times. I got bit

Speaker 2 one time, like,

Speaker 2 on the eye. It was just like a dog barking and having fun.
And then he, like, all of a sudden jumped out and bit me. And then I don't remember the other time, but I just remember being bit.

Speaker 2 So, like, I can't, I get very scared of dogs.

Speaker 2 And so, when like dogs come up, and like, if I love a very calm, well-trained puppy, but if it's a very dog that's going to jump on me, I just remember this dog was jumping on me, and then all of a sudden it went and bit me.

Speaker 2 So, I just don't trust it. I think we have this idea that everybody just loves dogs.
And I like dogs, but I like well-trained dogs. I'm just, I get scared around them.

Speaker 2 I think it's okay to feel that way, but also you have to give people that space to

Speaker 2 and not assume that everybody's going to just love your puppy. That's heavy on the reaction.
Who knows what's happened in their past?

Speaker 2 When I walk into like a cafe or something, and there's a dog in there, and the owner just lets it, like one of those extension leashes, just come right up to you and start jumping on you.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I act like, like,

Speaker 2 it's dramatic. Like when somebody's smoking near you on the street and you're like,

Speaker 2 like, that's me with like a dog that's jumping in an establishment. I'm like, don't, like, no, that's not an okay reaction, you know? Yeah.
And it's not, as you said, it's not a reflection on the dog.

Speaker 2 It's the owners, too. Like, people get puppies and then don't train them well.

Speaker 2 Like, this is another life, it's another life that you have to take care of, you have to train, you have to take big responsibility.

Speaker 2 I can't wait to have a dog, but I want to be in a place in life when I can give it the best life, give it the best life, train it, give it a good home, be walking or outside, like all that stuff. So,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 So, what's the answer? Two, two,

Speaker 2 three,

Speaker 2 three, three,

Speaker 2 best friend, but they have a bird, one

Speaker 2 and my best friend Alyssa had birds growing up.

Speaker 2 People with birds are a different breed. That's what is the point.
They throw blankets over the cage, but they still sense you. What? Why would you want that in your house? But birds are meant to fly.

Speaker 2 Birds are birds. They're meant to fly.
And they're stuck in a cage. You're going to cage them.

Speaker 2 You monster. They're tweeting all the time.
I was bit by a bird.

Speaker 2 I lost something once.

Speaker 2 It was a swan. She was chased by it at a zoo.

Speaker 2 Ugh, God. And then the next time we visited the zoo, a parrot shit on me.

Speaker 2 I just don't like birds. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Alona hates birds too.

Speaker 2 Hate them. I'm constantly in New York when a pigeon flip

Speaker 2 dunk. Pigeons are a sad story, though, guys.
They are.

Speaker 2 I love pigeons. We got rid of them when they stopped being useful to us, which is very sad.
So they weren't made to be in the wild. That's why their nests look like shit.
Those little birds.

Speaker 2 They're domesticated completely. They don't know how to be in the wild.
You know what I learned is that those tiny little birds in New York are like invasive and they're everywhere. I believe it.

Speaker 2 Which birds? The little tiny ones.

Speaker 2 Oh, they're invasive.

Speaker 2 At least that's what my friend Kevin told me.

Speaker 2 In Amsterdam, the Vondel Park, which is like their central park, there's a shit ton of parrots because people kept getting them as pets and they're a lot.

Speaker 2 So then they would release them into the wild. So now there's wild populations of parrots in Amsterdam.
Can they survive the winter? They apparently do, yeah. So I guess not a super harsh winner.

Speaker 2 Well, that

Speaker 2 was fun. Guys, thank you for joining us for another Perfect 10, but best friend edition.
Somebody's watching with their dog on the couch. Their bird in the corner going, hey, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 What the fuck?

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