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Speaker 12 A movie where the most important thing isn't winning.

Speaker 15 It's winning.

Speaker 16 We saw driven, so you know what that means.

Speaker 16 How he's staying alive, they call me the badass and he's on the

Speaker 21 a very hot, a very sweaty Stallone summer.

Speaker 22 That's right.

Speaker 16 Sylvester Stallone Summer is heating up and tonight we are talking about Driven, a movie that came out in 2001.

Speaker 27 The tagline was,

Speaker 29 welcome to the human race.

Speaker 9 Oh, damn.

Speaker 9 Damn!

Speaker 31 This movie is deep.

Speaker 24 Now,

Speaker 5 you don't know about Driven?

Speaker 31 I'll tell you this much. IMDb,

Speaker 33 they gave us a little log line for it.

Speaker 34 And the log line on the IMDb website is this.

Speaker 13 A young hot shot driver is in the middle of a championship season and is coming apart at the seams. And a former cart champion is called in to give him guidance.

Speaker 36 That's a movie.

Speaker 19 Ooh.

Speaker 16 Now, if you're you're keeping track of our Stallone stats, I will tell you this.

Speaker 39 Driven is the 11th Stallone movie that we have covered on the podcast.

Speaker 16 He has the third most appearances of any actor, only behind Jason Statham and Frank Welker, but that doesn't really count.

Speaker 38 In addition to Driven, we have covered Judge Dredd, Cobra, Stop Our My Mom, Will Shoot, Demolition Man, Over the Top, Rhinestone, Tango and Cash, The Specialist, Oscar, and Expendables 4.

Speaker 28 Great.

Speaker 28 Well, well, well.

Speaker 43 We are here. This movie, I remember being so excited to go to the theater and see a Kip Pardue film.

Speaker 28 Oh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 29 A part that, according to an IMDb trivia fact, was offered to Leonardo DiCaprio. There's no proof that that is true, but I like the idea that it could have been.

Speaker 46 Tonight we're going to break down this movie.

Speaker 44 We're going to talk about everything.

Speaker 31 And we have a bunch of kart racing experts here tonight.

Speaker 16 That's right. Please welcome my co-host, Mr.
Jason Manzuka.

Speaker 16 What's up, jerks?

Speaker 16 Let's go!

Speaker 16 Let's go, Vancouver!

Speaker 16 Yeah!

Speaker 16 That's right, give me the balcony!

Speaker 40 Fuck yes!

Speaker 48 Fuck yes!

Speaker 49 Trapped in a country I hate.

Speaker 50 Eat shit, guy,

Speaker 36 until you're the 51st state.

Speaker 20 Black it out, black it out, curtains.

Speaker 43 They asked me before the show, what should we do?

Speaker 5 They said, what should we do if someone starts heckling you from the audience?

Speaker 43 I said, don't worry, we will heckle them.

Speaker 53 They're trapped in here with us.

Speaker 5 We brought this movie here to Vancouver for one important reason.

Speaker 54 This movie? Yes.

Speaker 55 Because one of the races happens in Toronto.

Speaker 23 And it stars, and it stars your very own Estella Warren.

Speaker 57 Yes!

Speaker 58 Canadian

Speaker 60 synchronized swimming champion.

Speaker 61 If you didn't know it, this is real.

Speaker 17 The movie has a very,

Speaker 24 well, you'll get to find out in the movie.

Speaker 62 But.

Speaker 63 So, are you happy?

Speaker 65 We have one of your heroes in the movie.

Speaker 25 Everywhere you go in Canada, it's Shea posters and Estella Warren posters back and forth.

Speaker 5 We have an expert here tonight, someone who knows a lot about synchronized swimming, someone who has found a home here in Vancouver for the last few months.

Speaker 16 Please welcome Jude and Rivio.

Speaker 16 Wow,

Speaker 21 hello, June. How are you?

Speaker 14 Hi, Paul. I'm okay.

Speaker 18 How are you?

Speaker 68 I'm very good. Thank you so much for asking.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 45 June, I heard you enjoying this film in the other room today today as I was preparing.

Speaker 71 That sounds dirty.

Speaker 53 I'm going to say, that sounds dirty.

Speaker 72 I had a great time. By the way, I thought Sly looked good.

Speaker 73 I'm not afraid to say it.

Speaker 74 By the way, 100% agree.

Speaker 56 Everyone in this movie is a stone-cold hunk.

Speaker 72 So I just wish it was longer.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 72 More montages. Yes.
And then it's a perfect movie, no notes.

Speaker 74 Yeah, I agree 100%.

Speaker 75 I mean, for a lot of the movie, I was like, you know what?

Speaker 42 This movie's not going to deliver because nobody's going to race.

Speaker 75 Are these Formula One cars?

Speaker 26 What are these? They're not Formula One.

Speaker 44 These are cart races.

Speaker 66 Carts?

Speaker 71 Are we calling them carts? Carts.

Speaker 25 C-A-R-T.

Speaker 37 They're not Formula One.

Speaker 78 They're not mascaras.

Speaker 18 Are these go-karts?

Speaker 79 Well, I changed my opinion of the movie immediately at what misunderstood.

Speaker 80 And these are go-karts.

Speaker 72 Wait a second, Paul. These are go-karts?

Speaker 82 Here's what I'll say.

Speaker 72 Because you said in your introduction that Sy was a go-kart champion. And Jason and I turned to each other backstage and said, what?

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I was like, I thought these were like Formula One cars, and these are go-karts.

Speaker 37 Well, they are called cart, not go-kart, but I, but at one point, when the movie was.

Speaker 59 Is it a lawnmower engine?

Speaker 79 Apparently, yes.

Speaker 5 That's why they could race through Chicago like that.

Speaker 38 But I was like, you know what?

Speaker 42 This movie's not going to get me unless they race dangerously through a big-time city.

Speaker 86 And guess what?

Speaker 87 They did. They took their go-karts.
They raced them right through Chicago.

Speaker 88 I'm going to be clear, at least three dozen pedestrians perished

Speaker 63 in that chase.

Speaker 59 But you know what?

Speaker 42 Those deaths are worth it so that they can have that father-son moment after the race is done.

Speaker 72 And I was like, okay, so he was fined. Kip Berneau was fined $25,000 for that street race.
And I was like, but what about the criminal charges?

Speaker 71 Yes.

Speaker 91 That is.

Speaker 91 People were harmed.

Speaker 57 Yes.

Speaker 63 What about the the vehicular homicide that we clearly watched in the movie?

Speaker 53 There is moments where manhole covers are flying back, so the duck.

Speaker 89 Well, it had to hit somebody.

Speaker 67 Yes?

Speaker 60 You know how heavy that is? I mean,

Speaker 93 you have sent Airborne a murder disc.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 18 I mean, that...

Speaker 86 Murder Disc, by the way, is a horror movie I'm doing about

Speaker 42 competitive frisbee guys.

Speaker 56 So don't steal it, Canada.

Speaker 43 I was so blown away in that sequence because they're going so fast that they drive by a bus station and the glass breaks.

Speaker 12 Yes.

Speaker 18 I'm like, whoa.

Speaker 26 Then the cop takes out his gun.

Speaker 25 He's like, 195.

Speaker 33 I'm like, oh, it didn't seem like

Speaker 18 it seemed faster.

Speaker 72 But also, so I didn't know what that event was that they were at.

Speaker 92 I don't know. Dinner party?

Speaker 72 No, that was like a gala, babe.

Speaker 94 That was a farmer.

Speaker 38 It was like a showcase for the new cars.

Speaker 72 Okay, but I have to imagine that the the new cars that are the model cars on the floor are not, or carts, whatever they be,

Speaker 72 weren't like ready to drive.

Speaker 42 You see, you see in the movie so many times how hard it is for them to get in the car and get it into driving

Speaker 63 capabilities.

Speaker 66 It takes four or five other people to get that to be even possible.

Speaker 64 And they're jumping in like it's a fucking Volkswagen

Speaker 98 passat.

Speaker 85 And they're just like, ah, like they're driving a Chirocco home.

Speaker 18 Now, I will say this.

Speaker 5 A lot of online discussion.

Speaker 18 You can't even start that car from, like, we like a cold start.

Speaker 43 You'd have to get somebody behind it to like start the engine.

Speaker 91 Flintstone started. Yeah.

Speaker 20 Okay, we're just, yes, okay.

Speaker 72 Paul, I just want to, I actually do want to drill down on what the type of racing was because after watching F1, which I enjoyed, and after watching this, I was like, oh, I don't like racing.

Speaker 72 I don't like, that's not for me. And that's okay, but I never, I think I've seen it at its most engaging and most thrilling.
And I say, no.

Speaker 72 So, but was that, that's not F1. So did they race in like Daytona or the Indy 500?

Speaker 59 Those are the only two I know.

Speaker 58 So this is obviously on a world tour they're on.

Speaker 3 They're going to all these countries, all these cities.

Speaker 84 I will say this.

Speaker 34 It dissolved in 2003.

Speaker 101 Cart racing.

Speaker 59 Cart Racing.

Speaker 55 So championship.

Speaker 88 What we're looking at doesn't even exist?

Speaker 59 No.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 39 So this is what it is.

Speaker 18 It's gone extinct.

Speaker 91 Whole saying this is an extinct sport.

Speaker 94 We've got to bring it back.

Speaker 38 It is a championship auto racing teams, CART, okay, is a sanctioned body for the American team.

Speaker 63 Okay, so wait a minute.

Speaker 80 So CART doesn't even.

Speaker 60 That's an acronym?

Speaker 91 Yes.

Speaker 66 Okay, get fucked, movie.

Speaker 25 CART was founded in 1979, dissolved in 2003.

Speaker 12 Wait a minute, this is a like, oh, whoa.

Speaker 53 I thought I was gaining access to a real thing.

Speaker 72 Same, same.

Speaker 71 I'm mad.

Speaker 63 Here I am

Speaker 42 backstage looking up like, can a 52-year-old still become champion at CART?

Speaker 35 Well, this is it.

Speaker 39 Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 5 CART owners broke off to form their own series, and the sports biggest race and centerpiece is the Indianapolis 500.

Speaker 101 Okay.

Speaker 82 It was, really.

Speaker 29 So throughout the 80s and 90s, the Kart Indie Car World Series became the preeminent open-wheel auto racing series in North America.

Speaker 38 So everything else is closed wheel?

Speaker 59 What does that mean?

Speaker 82 It features a diverse schedule of super speedways, short ovals, road courses, and street circuit.

Speaker 105 I don't know.

Speaker 7 Can Mario get on this cart?

Speaker 18 What's the deal?

Speaker 72 Here's the thing, too, that I struggle with with F1 and this movie. All of the scenes where we're watching our drivers work out.

Speaker 14 Why?

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 56 And honestly,

Speaker 56 some of them seem too big to get in the car.

Speaker 72 If you have to get in and out in five seconds, and that's a part of like the regulation.

Speaker 72 Don't, don't get muscle. Don't stop running.
Stop doing whatever you're doing.

Speaker 53 Here's my question: why aren't these guys jockeys?

Speaker 101 Why aren't they little jockeys?

Speaker 50 Put them in there.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we need weight.

Speaker 53 Less weights.

Speaker 25 Their legs have to reach the pedals.

Speaker 12 Move them.

Speaker 8 Move the pedals.

Speaker 78 It's carving!

Speaker 107 It's not real!

Speaker 29 Well, it seems like the original plan for this movie didn't work out, and this is a press conference that we found from 1997.

Speaker 105 Here we go.

Speaker 55 So this is Stallone.

Speaker 110 That's Robert Rodriguez behind me. I'd love to show this sport in all the grandeur and intelligence and creativity and

Speaker 110 uniqueness that it does possess. And that's why we're here now.

Speaker 110 And if I can, I'd love to get Bernie Ecclesone to get up here and sign the contract so I know that everything is going to happen. Bernie?

Speaker 5 So Stallone was going to make Formula One, it says.

Speaker 24 He was going to make his own F1 movie.

Speaker 46 They read the script and said, we're out.

Speaker 53 And the script to this movie?

Speaker 12 Yes.

Speaker 24 Wow.

Speaker 41 And it became a cart movie.

Speaker 23 So

Speaker 39 he was going to make F1.

Speaker 5 They had done press about it.

Speaker 25 He had gone there. He was scouting it.

Speaker 103 It was all going to be F1.

Speaker 13 And they said no.

Speaker 25 What I understand from seeing F1, they are all about branding.

Speaker 47 And they're like, nope, on this one.

Speaker 72 Well, I have to say, one thing

Speaker 72 I was proud of.

Speaker 72 I knew that the fact that Target was a brand on the cart of our villain, I was like, he's going to have a turn.

Speaker 72 There's no way Target has co-signed on sponsoring this movie.

Speaker 88 And what I loved about this movie, this movie that is a referendum on masculinity, I believe.

Speaker 18 Finally.

Speaker 86 Finally.

Speaker 113 Finally.

Speaker 27 Finally.

Speaker 60 Men and their emotions.

Speaker 94 Can't we just be masculinely depicted on screen?

Speaker 88 I felt like I loved him as a villain because he was giving me real Ice Man from Top Gun vibes.

Speaker 80 Okay.

Speaker 88 Yes, he's the villain, but he's still inescapably part of the movie.

Speaker 12 They look too similar.

Speaker 18 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 You cannot have a hero and villain that look this similar.

Speaker 72 And by the way, having two blonde men on screen together in the beginning of the movie was absolutely confounding to me.

Speaker 72 And I know I've said before that blonde men are silly billies, and I know that a lot of people had a reaction to that.

Speaker 20 We got to get rid of that.

Speaker 72 But to have two silly billies together like that.

Speaker 29 Did not like it.

Speaker 18 I couldn't remember who was who.

Speaker 26 And I was confused at which team he was on because I was like, wait, I thought he's on.

Speaker 80 You know what it does?

Speaker 114 It helps remind you which one is Stallone.

Speaker 72 Whoa, you're right, Jason.

Speaker 53 Because cutting a swath through this,

Speaker 75 through all these blondes, all these tall blondes, is this little pocket-sized Wolverine?

Speaker 53 Sorry, I know he's one of yours, Bub.

Speaker 70 By the way,

Speaker 72 he really pops.

Speaker 51 Oh, of course he does, because he's at least 40 years older than everybody in the movie.

Speaker 37 I want to just drill down on that for a second.

Speaker 68 How old do you think Jimmy is?

Speaker 95 Jimmy slide?

Speaker 18 Jimmy Tonto.

Speaker 33 Jimmy Tonto.

Speaker 42 Jimmy Tonto Tanto, which is a name of a blade shape.

Speaker 18 A knife

Speaker 18 blade. Joe?

Speaker 31 Sorry, sorry, Joe Tonto. How old is Joe Tonto?

Speaker 70 Character of Joe Tanto.

Speaker 94 How old is the character or the character?

Speaker 115 The character of Joe Tonto.

Speaker 116 I'll ask it again.

Speaker 104 How old do you think the character of Joe Tonto is? Jimmy?

Speaker 12 Nope. Joe.

Speaker 117 Joe Tonto.

Speaker 33 Joe Tonto.

Speaker 18 Stallone's character?

Speaker 66 Yes, Stallone's character.

Speaker 18 In the movie. In the movie.

Speaker 104 How old is the character or how old is Stallone's?

Speaker 20 Right, so how old is Jimmy?

Speaker 118 Oh, Jimmy. Joe.

Speaker 119 Let me ask it again.

Speaker 115 How old is Joe Tanto?

Speaker 28 Joe the Hummer Tanto.

Speaker 113 Yes.

Speaker 67 Yes.

Speaker 18 Joe the Hummer Tonto.

Speaker 65 And it never occurs to Stallone

Speaker 91 the other meaning of Hummer.

Speaker 24 I mean, and it should.

Speaker 82 He wrote the script.

Speaker 23 And I believe there was a leaked audio clip of him getting a blowjob.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 70 he should be aware of it.

Speaker 18 That's exactly right.

Speaker 72 But by the way, those hums, I want to talk about the hums for roughly the next hour.

Speaker 18 But I'm going to go ahead and have some time.

Speaker 100 By the way, just so you know, in the crowd,

Speaker 24 there was a sign.

Speaker 23 Keep humming, Joe.

Speaker 57 Bly is top man just to get ESPN as the last letters.

Speaker 104 Do better, art department.

Speaker 74 Also, keep humming Joe.

Speaker 87 It's like there's so much space after Joe.

Speaker 22 Oh, I loved it.

Speaker 68 We can play the humming scene if you want to.

Speaker 88 My answer to you, Paul, though, is 39.

Speaker 14 June.

Speaker 72 The character.

Speaker 33 The character of Joe, the Hummer Tonto.

Speaker 72 I'd say the character because he's washed up. Yes.

Speaker 72 And again, I'm just going to go back to what I know about having

Speaker 72 to be in that tiny space and do what they do. It doesn't seem you need to be in fit or any certain age.
Like, you don't need to be in your prime at all.

Speaker 72 So, but I know he's washed up in the world of the world.

Speaker 88 It seems like it's a young man's sport.

Speaker 72 I know, but again, I ask why,

Speaker 72 but put that over there for a second. I'm going to put him at, like,

Speaker 72 the character at, like, 47.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 31 37.

Speaker 53 37.

Speaker 64 Now, Dallone himself was 55 when he made it.

Speaker 121 Yes!

Speaker 44 Exactly.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 55 he was just too old.

Speaker 120 52, he could have gotten away with it.

Speaker 53 55, too old. We all agree.

Speaker 118 37.

Speaker 39 Stallone is 37.

Speaker 97 That's impossible to imagine.

Speaker 24 It makes a lot more sense that his contemporary is that young man.

Speaker 80 Well, no,

Speaker 60 which makes all the sense in the world is what we know to be true, which is his contemporary is Burt Reynolds.

Speaker 58 Stallone and Burt Reynolds are peers, and they have a father-son relationship?

Speaker 18 I don't think so.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 72 Their brothers like Robert Sean Leonard and

Speaker 55 Kip. Yes, the other name.

Speaker 72 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 86 Robert Sean Leonard miscast as the Smarmie brother because

Speaker 57 he's just a sweetheart all the time.

Speaker 72 He's a sweetheart all the time.

Speaker 72 And I, but I, ah, God, the end scene where he's looking at his brother after that big win when, by the way, the big emotional narrative of the movie is that they start one place and I guess really end this very same place.

Speaker 72 And not, I didn't think that a lot happened on the journey there.

Speaker 31 It's like a circular track.

Speaker 20 We started where we began.

Speaker 14 We just completed a lap.

Speaker 18 We ended where we began.

Speaker 123 You gotta just until you pick up the line.

Speaker 72 But once we got there in that big moment at the end, and they cut to Robert Charlotte, and he's looking at him and he smiled. I cried.

Speaker 66 Oh, I did.

Speaker 96 I want to be very clear.

Speaker 51 I cried.

Speaker 42 I cried a number of times.

Speaker 98 When else

Speaker 120 I cried a number of times, and in fact, I wrote a note in my notes that was, here's what I would like.

Speaker 52 Here's what I want for the next fast and furious movie oh what I got put memo in the crew okay

Speaker 5 memo is the guy is out here I want him to win I believe that Stallone wrote memo for Jean-Claude Van Damme yes because he had a very Jean-Claude energy that's interesting and I loved

Speaker 67 just good vibes memo was memo was like you want to fuck my wife yes fuck my wife it's cool with me I'm not jealous.

Speaker 48 Memo was fine.

Speaker 42 Memo is the best dude in the world.

Speaker 66 I fucking love him.

Speaker 72 Honestly, after he's paralyzed, I think from the waist down,

Speaker 72 he seems to be taking it in strong.

Speaker 20 He's like, yes.

Speaker 44 He is. Yes.

Speaker 85 With a smile on his face, he is screaming, I cannot move my legs.

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Speaker 38 This movie tries so hard to hate.

Speaker 46 Like, I feel like this movie is conflicted. Like, what is it?

Speaker 103 Is it a story about like, is it like Rocky, but Rocky plays Mickey?

Speaker 31 No.

Speaker 25 It's Rocky playing Rocky, but it's like, there's so many variables and you're thrown into so many relationships.

Speaker 5 When Gina Gershon shows up, I'm like, wait a second, I don't even know how to feel about this.

Speaker 72 Well, I was so happy she was there.

Speaker 71 I loved her.

Speaker 72 When Gina Gershon showed up in a boot cut, low-rise.

Speaker 73 Forget about it.

Speaker 72 Wow.

Speaker 48 Let's go back.

Speaker 98 Can we go back to boot cut low-rise?

Speaker 72 Yeah, I know, Jason, you've said it a number of times on this podcast, you don't like a high-rise gene.

Speaker 128 I don't like it.

Speaker 68 Makes no sense.

Speaker 72 And I don't know. A lot of women to have different feelings about it but i know you love

Speaker 72 i know you love the low-rise gene era but she was giving i'm sorry that's a wonderful performance she was when she said in the mirror after luke i don't know we haven't talked about luke yet um

Speaker 44 that woman whose job i'm not clear on at all the reporter who just started flying with them and is hanging out in like it seems like

Speaker 77 you got to remember this is when newspapers had all the money in the world and they could send a reporter on a year-long tour of kart racing she's just sort of embedded biggest racing

Speaker 72 but also i feel like this is one of those movies where when a woman has a man's name you're like oh she's going to be interesting oh yeah when gina gershon though said after luke came in and they had that moment in the bathroom together great scene and when When Luke was leaving and she goes, your mascara is running.

Speaker 72 And Gina Gershon said something back to her and then she she looked in the mirror and said, Stupid bitch.

Speaker 95 I was like,

Speaker 72 I love this movie.

Speaker 81 I love this movie.

Speaker 9 I loved it.

Speaker 53 And I loved the all the it's just a series of romantic triangles that just keep moving like magnets closer together and farther apart.

Speaker 26 But we're not getting enough information to feel totally invested because it seems like

Speaker 72 Estella Warren is Sophia or Sophie, I'm not sure. Yeah,

Speaker 34 Sophia Simone.

Speaker 111 Yeah, that's Sophia Simone. Oh, wow.

Speaker 100 Is Bo's girlfriend?

Speaker 5 He breaks up with her.

Speaker 96 They're engaged. They're engaged.

Speaker 24 That's the name she gives back.

Speaker 29 And then the next night, or maybe, let's say, two nights later, she's at a bar and she's like, look, I don't want to get in another relationship.

Speaker 16 And then the next day,

Speaker 44 they're in a relationship.

Speaker 72 She's down to mom.

Speaker 93 Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 107 But they're in a serious relationship.

Speaker 18 She's like, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 72 I want to ask you a serious question, Jason. And it might be the same question.
Great. What, what, what does Sophia want?

Speaker 3 Oh, what does she want?

Speaker 21 Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 99 What drive? Wait, wait.

Speaker 18 What drives? Oh, wow.

Speaker 28 I could never tell.

Speaker 72 I could never tell. I'm like, I don't know what, I mean, I get that she's

Speaker 78 set.

Speaker 72 Well, she.

Speaker 39 She's like, why won't they ever let me compete?

Speaker 16 I'm clearly very talented.

Speaker 44 I got to fucking go around here all the time.

Speaker 46 I don't even work in the pit crew.

Speaker 24 I can do this.

Speaker 59 And he's not even doing that.

Speaker 56 Last lead to meet you.

Speaker 88 What part of my question was, which is, is she employed in any way in any of the teams?

Speaker 55 She seems

Speaker 18 to be hanging around.

Speaker 88 Okay, so for quite a while, I thought she was employed because

Speaker 21 they are very loose about who gets headphones.

Speaker 57 They're very cool about who gets to have headphones so that they can be like, hey, shut up.

Speaker 74 Hey, Doe, you stop talking.

Speaker 74 Yeah, I thought she was.

Speaker 56 So I believe, my question, though, was, do you think she and

Speaker 86 Jimmy?

Speaker 14 No. Jimmy?

Speaker 42 Jim, the kid.

Speaker 91 Jimmy Dean.

Speaker 42 Are they involved romantically or are they in a.

Speaker 55 Yes.

Speaker 36 Do you really think that?

Speaker 18 Or are they just hanging out?

Speaker 83 No.

Speaker 72 What do you, how do you define hanging out?

Speaker 9 Hmm.

Speaker 71 Well, here's why I am asking. They've had sex.

Speaker 111 Here's what I am asking.

Speaker 71 A thousand percent.

Speaker 88 How in the world does Sylvester Stallone make a movie in which there is a romantic couple and there is not a sex scene?

Speaker 72 I don't know. I was upset about it.

Speaker 38 Because I will tell you.

Speaker 88 Because that is shocking to me, so much so that I was like, they make such a point in the movie of telling him over and over again, she's not over Bo. She's not ready for you.

Speaker 114 That I was like, oh, maybe they are just hanging out and he wants more and she is, as she does, goes back to Bo.

Speaker 31 I don't know. I'll just give you a couple, just little things to keep in your head.

Speaker 34 Stallone wrote 25 drafts of this script.

Speaker 64 The original script. 2024, too many.
Yep.

Speaker 24 Original script, 220 pages long.

Speaker 51 Shoot it, baby.

Speaker 63 Shoot it.

Speaker 43 The original cut of this movie, five hours.

Speaker 11 What?

Speaker 26 Stallone used to be best friends with Rennie Harlan, the director.

Speaker 38 But when the movie shifted focus to Kip Purdue,

Speaker 43 they never spoke again.

Speaker 20 Whoa.

Speaker 60 Oh, was that not the intention, please?

Speaker 123 No.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 38 So basically, the studio wanted more.

Speaker 45 Chip.

Speaker 96 Kip. Kip.

Speaker 30 Kip.

Speaker 41 Chip, Kip.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 22 that is.

Speaker 90 And he's the heir to the Purdue fortune.

Speaker 18 The Purdue chicken.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 24 And

Speaker 109 it was odd that he would not let that Purdue chicken on the car.

Speaker 41 I do want to read this quote because this is pretty much, this is Stallone talking about it.

Speaker 29 Racing's very much like the world of acting.

Speaker 33 You got your frontrunners, and you have your guys that are there for the long race, and you have your other guys that block for people. They're called supporting actors.

Speaker 18 Oh, God.

Speaker 12 I disagree.

Speaker 91 Very respectfully, I disagree.

Speaker 25 It's all the same kind of situation, and you realize you can't be number one.

Speaker 46 You can't be the guy in front all the time.

Speaker 41 So you can lend support, and you can help nourish and encourage someone else.

Speaker 109 It's like your experiences live live on in someone else.

Speaker 31 If you can find some young actor and you can say, listen, don't do this, don't do that, and avoid this, and avoid that,

Speaker 15 and you share your experiences, and then he succeeds,

Speaker 24 you can say, you know what?

Speaker 109 I kind of contributed to that.

Speaker 129 As an actor, you got to learn you can't be number one the hard way.

Speaker 47 Unfortunately, I did.

Speaker 123 That's incredible.

Speaker 114 That's incredible because at the end of the movie, Burt Reynolds says to him, you could have won, couldn't you?

Speaker 42 And he says, I did.

Speaker 54 And that's the sentiment that he's trying to get across.

Speaker 88 And there is such a push-pull in the movie that he clearly needs in the same way as he became into the Rocky movies and the Creed movies, he still wants to have the win.

Speaker 100 Well, still, he's not good.

Speaker 46 He's not going to give it up.

Speaker 45 And as a matter of fact, I don't mean to do this, but June heard me editing this and was very confused.

Speaker 72 Well, I heard you editing in the other room, and and I was like, You're editing a scene that I didn't see in this movie.

Speaker 34 So, enjoy this little mashup. I think it's self-explanatory.

Speaker 45 Obviously, two films written by Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 6 Everybody trips.

Speaker 4 That's okay. That's life.

Speaker 130 It's how fast you get up that counts.

Speaker 125 So, get up, Jimmy.

Speaker 126 But get up fast.

Speaker 121 But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

Speaker 116 How much you can take and keep moving forward.

Speaker 48 That's how winning is done.

Speaker 48 Now, if you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth.

Speaker 48 But you gotta be willing to take the hits and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him or her or anybody. Cowards do that and that ain't you.

Speaker 131 You pick up a paycheck to help me out because you didn't help yourself when you had the chance. Why does that make you so much better than me, Joe?

Speaker 132 Now I start to get a little ahead. I start to get a little something for myself and this happens.

Speaker 132 Now I'm asking you as a favor not to go through with this okay, this is only gonna end up bad for you and it's gonna end up bad for me and you don't even know what the hell you're talking about and you don't know who you are anymore

Speaker 121 Somebody put it in your mind you gotta be perfect every time out of your failure. Well, forget that just forget it

Speaker 116 Then the time come for you to be your own man and take on the world and you did but somewhere along the line you changed.

Speaker 121 You stopped being you. You let people stick a finger in your face and tell you you're no good.

Speaker 121 And when things got hard, you started looking for something to blame-like a big shadow.

Speaker 19 And we're an attitude.

Speaker 133 So, if you trust me, no, if you trust yourself, by the end of the season, you'll either be on top or you won't. But I guarantee you, you're gonna know what Jimmy Bly is really made of.

Speaker 121 But until you start believing in yourself, you're gonna have a life.

Speaker 66 Incredible. You know what?

Speaker 72 I gotta tell you, though,

Speaker 72 I,

Speaker 72 you know, I love a Saimon a lot.

Speaker 72 I, like, I,

Speaker 72 I'm sorry, that works.

Speaker 69 But that works every time.

Speaker 18 It works every time.

Speaker 72 It works every time.

Speaker 120 And, I mean, like, and by the way, I'm like, yes, Jess from Gilmore Girls.

Speaker 48 Get it.

Speaker 58 Let's go.

Speaker 120 And in that movie, in that movie, Stallone, I believe, is playing 39?

Speaker 83 Yes.

Speaker 34 He's younger and Balboa.

Speaker 101 Oh, man. man.

Speaker 72 I would love to talk about the denim hat that Gina Gershon wore.

Speaker 72 Because here's the thing about that hat. I paused when he came on screen.
I spent a lot of time with it because it was half bucket hat and half like witch's hat.

Speaker 72 It was something I had never seen before in all my days.

Speaker 86 Here's the thing: the movie appears to be written by and for rap rock,

Speaker 18 including all of the fashions.

Speaker 86 I mean, when I saw this movie, music by BT, I was like, wow.

Speaker 76 This is before they got S.

Speaker 18 This is before they got S.

Speaker 20 I was like, this is not ringing any bells for me.

Speaker 42 Guys, that's the best joke of the night.

Speaker 79 It's not going to get better than that.

Speaker 48 I wrote that joke down.

Speaker 16 I didn't say it because I was ready for it.

Speaker 72 There's also so much music in this movie that, like, it's so fascinating that there's no dialogue in the trailer because, like, there's there's barely any dialogue in the movie.

Speaker 72 There's so much music that at a point I was like, oh, my Spotify must be on on my computer. Like, this can't be the movie.

Speaker 72 There's never,

Speaker 86 and it is very disruptive and intrusive music throughout.

Speaker 42 And that was bizarre. Did you notice, though, once Memo gets paralyzed and is in the hospital, all of Gina's Gershon's outfits go to like school marm.

Speaker 53 She goes from dressing

Speaker 57 so insanely great in the races, cowboy hats, all sorts of craziness, to like,

Speaker 42 I believe, an Amish woman in the world now.

Speaker 26 She's living a different life.

Speaker 72 Okay, because I was really tracking that journey through her clothing, and I was like, she seems so happy and content in that hospital room. I mean, does his dick still work?

Speaker 72 I'm going to ask that question. I think the answer is yes, based on the

Speaker 56 post-credit scene?

Speaker 72 No, I didn't know there was a lot of work.

Speaker 53 Oh, yeah, the post-credit scene is all about his dick working. Yeah.

Speaker 20 It's a pretty exciting scene.

Speaker 92 So.

Speaker 104 She picks three quarters up off the floor.

Speaker 72 Okay, this all makes sense.

Speaker 81 Because based on what we had seen before and how she checks his balls.

Speaker 47 Quarter, quarter, quarter.

Speaker 72 Based on what we had seen before about her character, I was like, what's she so happy about?

Speaker 79 Now I know. Well,

Speaker 109 she doesn't have to travel anymore.

Speaker 75 So here's my other question for both of you.

Speaker 3 Who was the girl backstage who said that she needed to kiss all the podcasters before she had a bet with someone that she could kiss all the podcasters before the show?

Speaker 53 And you guys both kissed her.

Speaker 72 Yeah, and she asked nicely.

Speaker 123 I said, you lost.

Speaker 72 Who was that woman?

Speaker 72 What were we to learn from that scene?

Speaker 73 I

Speaker 73 was astounding.

Speaker 64 What was the purpose

Speaker 88 of having that woman be A able to get in the pit right as the race is about to start?

Speaker 72 The only thing I can think is that in the five-hour cut that wasn't released, and by the way, release the Stallone cut.

Speaker 73 Release it.

Speaker 59 Release it.

Speaker 7 Release the smooch cut.

Speaker 72 But in that cut, I imagine she must be established. It must be established

Speaker 72 that he is a bit of a womanizer and has many women.

Speaker 68 I have a feeling Stallone's kind of like

Speaker 13 baseball. You know, there's a girl who runs out on the field and she kisses the guys.

Speaker 12 Would it be funny if you know, in the race car, there's a girl who runs on the field

Speaker 14 guys.

Speaker 18 I think that's 100% right.

Speaker 42 I also think it's there to make us feel like Bo still cares for Sophia.

Speaker 91 Sophia Simone.

Speaker 18 Sophia Simone. Sophia Simone.

Speaker 83 This woman.

Speaker 79 I feel like, yes, it's meant to be like he's not going to do that.

Speaker 12 He really is still carrying that torch for her because I think the movie wants us to believe they should be together.

Speaker 26 They were engaged. They were engaged.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm aware.

Speaker 89 I mean, he broke up with her on a whim.

Speaker 25 He's like, she's like, am I in your way? He's like, yeah, you actually are.

Speaker 34 Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 17 It's like, wow, okay.

Speaker 25 And then she leaves and he's like, all right, I'm done.

Speaker 27 And then Stallone crosses battle lines to go over and give girl advice.

Speaker 11 He's like, hey, let me tell you, go talk to her.

Speaker 12 He's like, all right, I will.

Speaker 50 Stallone's working both sides.

Speaker 18 You're forgetting.

Speaker 72 You guys are forgetting. It's about the brotherhood of speed.

Speaker 48 Yes.

Speaker 72 It's about the brotherhood of speed. And that's what they're all a part of.
And you guys don't understand what they're talking about.

Speaker 17 Well, now let me ask you this question.

Speaker 60 The women understand it more than easy.

Speaker 42 Yes, they do.

Speaker 24 I agree.

Speaker 25 And they're okay with it all because they need to pour that champagne in each other's mouths.

Speaker 24 They need to take that bottle, chirp it so hard,

Speaker 10 pour it all in

Speaker 10 your mouth.

Speaker 48 Give it to me, Jimmy.

Speaker 24 And then Stallone's like, I got to get in there too.

Speaker 80 Ah!

Speaker 92 It does.

Speaker 111 The movie does feel like it's building to some sort of Ituma Matambien situation.

Speaker 18 True.

Speaker 38 But I guess the question that I.

Speaker 42 Where you just see Gina Gershon and

Speaker 86 Sophie

Speaker 53 Simone coming out of the room while the rest of the guys are like partying in there to rap rock?

Speaker 119 Let them. Let them have their weekend.

Speaker 18 Let the bodies hit the floor?

Speaker 41 So I guess my question is this, and not to be insensitive in any way, I was shocked when it was revealed that Burt Reynolds was in a wheelchair.

Speaker 118 And then when Burt Reynolds and Stallone have their moment, was he alluding that Stallone paralyzed Burt Reynolds?

Speaker 72 I think so.

Speaker 17 So is that like the trajectory?

Speaker 112 It's like,

Speaker 72 but there's so many moments in this movie, like that scene where you're like, huh?

Speaker 72 Like the moment in the, again, where Gina Gershon in that big gala scene is talking to Stallone, and she's like, and if you're not going to make it by midnight, you're never going to make it.

Speaker 72 If you don't do it by midnight tonight, it's never going to happen.

Speaker 78 I'm like, what?

Speaker 92 What is it?

Speaker 26 Like,

Speaker 29 she's like, and it seems like, and at least, and I don't want to make any aspersions on anyone's whatever, but it seems like that reporter's a little bit more chaste.

Speaker 25 Like, she's not going to.

Speaker 18 Careful, Paul.

Speaker 38 I just felt that she was a little buttoned up.

Speaker 70 for Stallone, especially next to her.

Speaker 72 She had a red bodysuit on that was a little off the shoulder in that pool scene. What are you talking about?

Speaker 66 Wait, oh, yeah, the pool scene.

Speaker 41 Well, she was asking some pretty hard-editing questions.

Speaker 12 I just felt like.

Speaker 72 Okay, yes, she was a little compared to Gina Gershon.

Speaker 5 So, like Gina Gershon's like, you better fuck this reporter by midnight, or it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 61 Is that what she was talking about?

Speaker 70 Whoa, what I thought they was talking about?

Speaker 8 No, that's what I was talking about. No,

Speaker 18 that's how I took it.

Speaker 107 Oh, that's what I thought.

Speaker 127 No,

Speaker 59 no, I don't know what she was talking about. I just know she wasn't talking about that.

Speaker 5 No, no, she definitely was because Stallone's like talking to her, and then she comes over, and that's why they get upset with each other in the bathroom.

Speaker 8 That, thank you, Vancouver!

Speaker 9 Thank you. But I don't think

Speaker 38 I get symbolism.

Speaker 53 I definitely don't think that's symbolism, first of all.

Speaker 53 The symbol of a woman being someone he wants,

Speaker 24 and then

Speaker 101 oh, I don't think

Speaker 60 you think that Gina Gershon is saying if you don't fuck this reporter by midnight, you'll never fuck her?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 18 That's what you want to do.

Speaker 11 Why did who fucks before midnight?

Speaker 25 She knows she has a deadline in the morning.

Speaker 39 She's got to get up and put her story.

Speaker 71 No, she doesn't.

Speaker 7 She has so many more cities to go to.

Speaker 80 She's on an endless journey with the cart team.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 49 A furious cart is an acronym.

Speaker 18 I'm really,

Speaker 72 I haven't recovered from that either, but I'm so...

Speaker 72 Why is Gina Gershon, like, why is she tracking that?

Speaker 71 Whatever.

Speaker 119 She's taunting him.

Speaker 46 Thank you she's taunting him because she's like you are a met like she's like i got the better version of you he's younger he's better and she's like you know what you left she's still angry you left me the minute i get something going you come back here and you're messing up with my guy's hard you're really channeling yeah you are paul

Speaker 8 hey hey paul

Speaker 71 did

Speaker 20 Did Jimmy Tonto hurt you?

Speaker 76 The minute.

Speaker 31 I'm going to fuck your brains out, Jina.

Speaker 18 Just out of anger.

Speaker 107 Fucked your brains out.

Speaker 80 Here's what's interesting about the movie.

Speaker 23 I'm going to fuck the reporter for you.

Speaker 40 And then that's why she's upset, dumb bitch.

Speaker 24 She's like, yeah.

Speaker 43 She's like, ah, she would have gotten in there by midnight.

Speaker 113 Wow.

Speaker 111 I've never seen Paul this fired up in my life.

Speaker 83 Wow.

Speaker 120 Here's the thing.

Speaker 56 Only a movie written by Stallone.

Speaker 42 What's so hard in this for both Burt Reynolds' character and Gina Gershon's character is both of them appear to have legitimate grievances with Stallone, but Stallone won't let the facts of those grievances become part of the movie's narrative.

Speaker 28 I agree.

Speaker 44 So

Speaker 36 they aren't allowed to say, here's how you hurt me.

Speaker 77 Here's how I'm still hurting because of you.

Speaker 88 They instead have to be, you're secretly the hero we need.

Speaker 71 And it just isn't.

Speaker 54 And in fact, what's so shocking to me in the movie is that when Jimmy, not Jimmy, when the kid, is the kid's name Jimmy?

Speaker 17 The American guy and the guy.

Speaker 42 When the kid and Bo go to save Memo, right?

Speaker 98 In my mind, and I wrote in my notes, I'm shocked that Stallone allowed an act of heroism to happen that he wasn't a part of.

Speaker 36 But when the newscaster at the end of the movie is reporting on the events that happened, he includes Stallone's character as one of the three heroes who saved Memo's life.

Speaker 30 Come on.

Speaker 58 That is Stallone all the way.

Speaker 36 And if you want to understand America, this is the Rosetta Stone.

Speaker 59 The Rosetta Stallone.

Speaker 30 Put that in. Put that in.

Speaker 36 Black it out. The show's over.

Speaker 9 Go home, idiots.

Speaker 88 So, but by the way, the Rosetta Stallone absolutely is a t-shirt that I'm making.

Speaker 9 I love that.

Speaker 109 I meant it. I think we got the shirt.

Speaker 14 And written in the original script, Bo did not try to rescue Memo.

Speaker 29 And then Renny was like, it made him look heartless.

Speaker 43 And then Stallone rewrote the scene with just Jimmy saving Memo.

Speaker 119 And then the scene was reshot again.

Speaker 12 And then Tanto was in it, but Rennie Harlan digitally erased him.

Speaker 117 Whoa!

Speaker 44 Oh, there's so much good drama.

Speaker 24 And that's why they don't talk.

Speaker 12 Now, when we talk about it.

Speaker 86 By the way, I mean, congrats to Rennie Harlan.

Speaker 36 Because that must have been very hard to do to go up against a loan like that.

Speaker 89 And it's better for the movie to erase him out of the thing.

Speaker 125 From producer Jordan Peele, the movie him asks the question, Would you sell your soul for greatness?

Speaker 106 What are you willing to sacrifice?

Speaker 76 Activate my head on september 19th do you want what i have

Speaker 126 you got to take it from me

Speaker 127 what if i say no i ain't the killer but don't push me

Speaker 126 experience fear like never before it's time for me to show you exactly who i am

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Speaker 72 You know, one thing I noticed is that Jimmy, what's what's his name again?

Speaker 70 Jimmy Bly.

Speaker 70 Jimmy Bly.

Speaker 72 Jimmy Bly. Jimmy Bly.

Speaker 72 He wears glasses all the time, except when driving.

Speaker 29 Well, he needs glasses because he's playing his racing game.

Speaker 103 This, to me, was the worst part of the entire movie, that Jimmy's practicing on this using an up-down key on his computer.

Speaker 17 There's no way that this is helping him on the cart.

Speaker 123 This is like, I feel like

Speaker 53 somehow lawnmower man is going to come out of this situation and come get him.

Speaker 28 Fuel, boost, oil, battery.

Speaker 72 I have to say, I do think we saw a number of very serious cart crashes where very believable. Very believable, very serious cart crashes.

Speaker 72 And I question the announcers and how they're reporting on these crashes because they seem excited.

Speaker 122 Not only that, but when the most brutal crashes happen, they put in the sound effect of the crowd roaring.

Speaker 78 Does that happen?

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 46 you know what?

Speaker 45 I know one thing that I thought was pretty great, which is this.

Speaker 45 I guess Rennie Harlan forgot to tell all the extras which way to look because

Speaker 24 there was one scene in the biggest crash scene.

Speaker 45 This woman just kind of checking it out over here.

Speaker 24 Maybe she's turning away. She doesn't want

Speaker 61 to want to leave.

Speaker 72 I, by the way, I found it really irresponsible that, given how many crashes we've seen and how many carts we've seen flying over, over other carts, out of the raceway, into ponds,

Speaker 72 into

Speaker 18 all sorts of places.

Speaker 73 Don't know.

Speaker 81 But all sorts of different places.

Speaker 72 I was like, how dare you set up a children's playground

Speaker 72 not

Speaker 72 10 feet from the racetrack.

Speaker 23 Those cars are flipped, tires are flying up.

Speaker 119 But here's the thing: when Kip Perdue crashes, that's a pretty gnarly crash.

Speaker 12 He's like, I'm okay.

Speaker 112 Got it. See you later.

Speaker 9 I'm going to go.

Speaker 99 Just like walks out of that.

Speaker 72 The best part of this movie for me was the emotional climax of like seeing our hero. Sorry, Slide, Kip Perdue,

Speaker 72 seeing him

Speaker 72 get prepared to get in that car for that last race,

Speaker 72 and seeing our hero jump on his foot

Speaker 81 10 times.

Speaker 61 10 times.

Speaker 12 Like the riveting.

Speaker 63 Each jump, riveting.

Speaker 5 Now, in the original script, it was 15 times.

Speaker 61 I couldn't believe that.

Speaker 56 That's a cut too far, Paul.

Speaker 46 I am going to go out into the audience. I'm going to talk to people.

Speaker 84 If you are a cart racer, you have to let me know.

Speaker 25 You have to let me know.

Speaker 5 All right, I'm going to go over to Jafar, our friend from Boise.

Speaker 35 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 16 I think this is.

Speaker 85 Jafar, great costume.

Speaker 108 Great work.

Speaker 28 All right. Okay, okay.

Speaker 9 It's a real Burt Reynolds. I have to put on my headset.
I love it.

Speaker 43 So, what do you got, Jafar?

Speaker 28 Well, I have props.

Speaker 130 So, and I can also speak to a couple issues. So, one, the simulator scene is literally just him playing the PS2 game that came with this, which is absolute garbage because I bought it.

Speaker 130 And I also bought the DVD and watched that hour deleted scenes with commentary from Sylvester Stallone sly at the beginning of the deleted scenes.

Speaker 130 He says, This is a movie about relationships and love and people, and for whatever reason, the studio did not want us to tell those stories.

Speaker 130 And then the entire hour of deleted scenes is just like exposition dumps and fucking. So that's where it is.

Speaker 49 Wait, so there's fucking Dan, you want it?

Speaker 43 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 76 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 130 And then, yeah, that's pretty much the most notable thing.

Speaker 18 I love it. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 37 Jafar, your best performance today.

Speaker 30 Great Jafar.

Speaker 71 Great work. Thank you so much.

Speaker 107 Great work.

Speaker 30 Wow.

Speaker 42 Well, I'm glad to know that at least sex scenes were filmed because I couldn't wrap my head around there not being sexy.

Speaker 45 What a poor thing to do as an actor. You're like, I had to shoot that sex scene with Stallone, and no one even got to see it.

Speaker 44 Is it a positive or a negative?

Speaker 35 I don't know.

Speaker 115 Our other costume character over here, hi.

Speaker 72 Wow, this is amazing.

Speaker 5 All right, so what's your name?

Speaker 135 My name is Bryn.

Speaker 5 Okay, Bryn, what's your question?

Speaker 135 It's not a question. It's more, I read through the production notes, and apparently in that street racing scene, it was all shot practically with Stallone driving.
Here's what he said about it.

Speaker 135 In that chase scene, I was rushing through a tunnel at 160 miles per hour, which is 260 kilometers per hour.

Speaker 111 And I was... No!

Speaker 108 No!

Speaker 108 No!

Speaker 127 No! Cut that part out!

Speaker 9 Cut it out! Cut it out! Cut it out at all!

Speaker 72 Don't release it at the podcast.

Speaker 92 Not gonna be the audience.

Speaker 87 This podcast does not recognize the metric system.

Speaker 42 If anybody else converts a goddamn number,

Speaker 83 we're out of here. We're done.

Speaker 135 He continued, I wasn't wearing a helmet. I realized my ears were touching the back of my head.
The g-forces were unbelievable.

Speaker 135 And that's not even talking about the freezing cold and my inability to see anything without a visor.

Speaker 83 I call bullshit a lot.

Speaker 18 I don't think that happened.

Speaker 5 I know that you found it, but I think it's all bullshit.

Speaker 94 Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 14 I agree with that.

Speaker 12 I believe it.

Speaker 12 He said it.

Speaker 71 Oh, I believe he said it.

Speaker 71 I believe he said it.

Speaker 111 I don't believe it on an instant, but I believe it.

Speaker 45 So other people also back him up.

Speaker 68 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 135 So they were talking about how

Speaker 135 the stunt team, this was shot in Toronto, and it was like very precisely choreographed.

Speaker 49 For Toronto.

Speaker 49 I mean, yeah.

Speaker 9 Oh, now, now, late to the party.

Speaker 88 When we were there, they had some shit to say about you.

Speaker 42 They said their trees are too big.

Speaker 46 By the way, can you just say what you just said to me?

Speaker 29 Because it's worth it.

Speaker 135 Oh, I said I was in Toronto.

Speaker 8 They didn't say anything about Vancouver.

Speaker 17 All right, so he did definitely do it.

Speaker 46 I appreciate this. It's great.
All right, amazing. Thank you so much.

Speaker 83 Let me go back here. All right.

Speaker 40 Thank you, Verse. Sold-out show here, Vancouver.

Speaker 129 Sold-out crowd.

Speaker 66 Hi, how are you?

Speaker 109 What's your name?

Speaker 5 I'm Sam. This is my wife, Kelsey.
Hi.

Speaker 74 Are we introducing spouses?

Speaker 70 I don't know.

Speaker 38 He said it as if...

Speaker 36 Are we at your wedding?

Speaker 12 Tell me who you're here with, what you're wearing.

Speaker 18 Hello, what's going on?

Speaker 18 Favorite food.

Speaker 35 And then your question. Yes.

Speaker 136 Yeah, so my wife watched through the

Speaker 136 deleted scenes and the commentary from Stallone. And he mentions that his character had this like deep backstory with scars, and he had to wake up and drink and use pain pills to get going.

Speaker 136 And we got really into it. Do you think this movie would have been way better if it really did hit that five-hour scene?

Speaker 136 Do you think it got to that Avengers Infinity War level, or was it really just like that lost tape is something we're missing?

Speaker 25 But what you describe doesn't feel like it, it just would need to be slightly injected into this film, right?

Speaker 46 Like,

Speaker 88 imagine if this film had portrayed Stallone the way the wrestler portrayed Mickey Roar.

Speaker 120 Yeah, you know, wouldn't that be

Speaker 54 wow, wouldn't that be an impactful bringing someone that wrecked, someone who is having to take pain pills, someone who is like, someone who is truly demolished?

Speaker 124 That would be incredible.

Speaker 120 But again, he is 37 and thriving

Speaker 124 in this movie, despite the fact that he is very visibly a 55-year-old man.

Speaker 119 All right, you are wearing a cart shirt.

Speaker 18 A 2001 cart shirt from Portland, autographed, autographed by multiple kart racers.

Speaker 91 Wow.

Speaker 45 Please take a picture of this.

Speaker 75 What's the origin of the shirt?

Speaker 130 I was a big kart fan. My family and I traveled around and watched.

Speaker 18 Okay,

Speaker 61 okay, wait, time out.

Speaker 72 Because I knew after this podcast, we're released.

Speaker 72 I felt the message boards lighting a fire.

Speaker 72 And I knew you people were out there and you were going to have something to say about us and to us.

Speaker 7 What a missed opportunity.

Speaker 18 You are the Morgan of Dungeons and Dragons for kart racing.

Speaker 72 And by the way, way, how are you doing post-extinction?

Speaker 130 We're okay. We're getting into IndyCar now.
That's okay.

Speaker 5 Can you, for like the lay people, just like, because it looks to me if like F1.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 28 Well, it's

Speaker 130 American. Okay.

Speaker 130 So they're slower and they're

Speaker 51 they like

Speaker 9 hang on.

Speaker 30 Hang on.

Speaker 130 They're they love to crash. They're

Speaker 24 Oh, so crashing is a part of it.

Speaker 29 So when they are cheering, that's a thing.

Speaker 130 That's a thing.

Speaker 12 Like a hockey fight.

Speaker 95 Exactly.

Speaker 58 Which is something you understand.

Speaker 72 Wait, can I ask?

Speaker 72 Do people die?

Speaker 130 There have been deaths, but.

Speaker 83 Name them.

Speaker 72 Well, just because it seems like the way the drivers are getting ready and picking up their photos and saying goodbye and doing all their things, it seems like they are prepared to die every race.

Speaker 130 And the safety things that got added, people kind of fought against those safety things. Strange.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 114 Is this a sport that now, do you now follow one of the subsequent, like F1 or?

Speaker 130 I follow F1 mostly.

Speaker 72 Okay.

Speaker 64 And do you, and has F, okay, so let me ask this.

Speaker 12 When this was popular, okay, actually, was

Speaker 12 it?

Speaker 49 Was this popular?

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Well, yeah, I mean, so, but did you go see Driven?

Speaker 130 I saw Driven with my whole family

Speaker 130 when it came out, and we were stoked because all of our favorite drivers are in the movie.

Speaker 72 Okay, I wondered in that sequence where they're dropping off their kids at the daycare center, which is just mere feet from the racetrack.

Speaker 92 Those who want to be a kid.

Speaker 53 Well, they want their kids to be able to watch them die.

Speaker 72 Yeah, I understand that. I understand that.

Speaker 130 So, yeah, Paul Tracy, Canadian, he drops his kids off. We see Mario Andretti.
Max Pappas, who signed my shirt, dies in the movie because he

Speaker 53 is. Is he Greek, Max Pappas?

Speaker 91 Are there Greek car racers?

Speaker 80 I doubt it.

Speaker 62 Well, this is amazing.

Speaker 42 Wait, do you have any other insights?

Speaker 120 Because you've now have the microphone, anything we've misrepresented or any, or by the way, you can just be like, fuck no, I'm done talking.

Speaker 130 The crashes are not that big.

Speaker 92 Okay, okay.

Speaker 130 It's usually like a wheel falls off and someone spins.

Speaker 42 Someone isn't launched into a pond

Speaker 18 one acre away.

Speaker 5 Am I, I don't want to put this on, and I'm not saying this is what you're saying.

Speaker 37 Is this Hillbilly F1?

Speaker 72 Great question, Paul.

Speaker 130 I would say it's... NASCAR and F1 had a baby.
It would be cart.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 42 So then the answer is yes, billy F1.

Speaker 72 Wow, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 30 Thank you.

Speaker 108 Give it up!

Speaker 108 Give it up for a cart hero.

Speaker 74 Thank you.

Speaker 108 Every Canadian hits it out of the park with their questions.

Speaker 105 All right, you.

Speaker 34 Hi, what's your name?

Speaker 136 My name's Colin.

Speaker 33 Colin, what's your question?

Speaker 8 Really quick:

Speaker 137 Is there a possibility that Sylvester Stallone had a bit of a fetish with watching his lady be with another guy? Because it feels like that's what this movie is really about.

Speaker 111 I wrote this note.

Speaker 42 Seems to be a sport that is predicated a lot on everybody cucking each other.

Speaker 40 We all get in different race cars. Why can't we get into different women?

Speaker 118 Hey.

Speaker 72 You've always said that, babe. You've always said that.

Speaker 66 Again.

Speaker 20 Again,

Speaker 124 you said that as, you said, that's going to be the t-shirt, I promise.

Speaker 42 And I don't think anybody wants it.

Speaker 35 I think everybody wants it.

Speaker 24 Everybody wants it. Everyone's gonna wear it.

Speaker 119 Thank you.

Speaker 22 Now,

Speaker 82 here's what I will say:

Speaker 5 What happened when Memo goes back to his Memo's like, hey, buddy, you're the best, you're the best, you're the best.

Speaker 97 And he goes back in the trailer and stares at himself from the glass table.

Speaker 26 I thought he was going to do Coke, but I didn't.

Speaker 72 I did too. I was like, and then we don't.

Speaker 53 What do you think the symbolism of that is?

Speaker 41 This is a great question.

Speaker 5 I am known for my detailed analysis of symbolism.

Speaker 5 The glass table is a mirror and it's a reflection of himself, and he hates it.

Speaker 72 Yeah, it was like, it was a weird moment because

Speaker 72 it's not what I wanted from Memo.

Speaker 72 You know?

Speaker 60 Well, he's putting on such a brave face for everybody because he's been demoted.

Speaker 54 You know, he's not going to race because Sly's back, and he's giving everybody the, it's fine, you're my brother.

Speaker 42 I'm so happy you're back. I love everybody.

Speaker 111 I'm Memo, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 60 Then he goes into the thing, and it's it's like, boy.

Speaker 72 I guess that's true.

Speaker 104 He is the dark, the dark twin.

Speaker 116 And we see the dark twin in the mirror.

Speaker 72 And then also we see that dark twin come out and race where he can't, he can't be a supporting actor. You know, he tries to be number one.

Speaker 72 And I was confounded in the hospital scene when Memo is there with Jimmy. Memo says to Jimmy, I made a mistake.
I'm a guy who made a mistake. And Jimmy says, no, you didn't.
You didn't make a mistake.

Speaker 92 Yeah, you did.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 20 I am, Agreed. You did.

Speaker 99 Agree.

Speaker 44 I am in the balcony.

Speaker 81 Be careful, Paul.

Speaker 40 Balcony monsters, welcome. How are you? Good to see you.

Speaker 113 Hey, how are you?

Speaker 79 I'm good, thank you.

Speaker 31 Okay, what's your question?

Speaker 139 As a Toronto native, I just wanted to say.

Speaker 9 Boo!

Speaker 30 Boo!

Speaker 74 My question is.

Speaker 53 Give your balls a tug.

Speaker 30 All right.

Speaker 66 I tried it. Okay.

Speaker 139 My question is, do we think that Burt Reynolds signed on if he could only sit the entire...

Speaker 40 I thought the same thing. I was like,

Speaker 40 they realized early on, you know what? They can't do a walk-and-talk through all this crowd of people.

Speaker 29 It's like, put me in a chair.

Speaker 80 Yeah.

Speaker 124 I was actually shocked that he.

Speaker 129 Oh, wait, hold on.

Speaker 85 We got a good joke over here.

Speaker 23 Go ahead.

Speaker 52 No, no. I think it is.

Speaker 129 It sounded like I was being sarcastic.

Speaker 14 Hold on.

Speaker 112 We got a good jerk over.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Not jerk.

Speaker 18 Wait, we have a good joke.

Speaker 36 Are you safe? Save the safe word.

Speaker 16 I am safe.

Speaker 5 And now I've put too much spin on it, but it's good.

Speaker 43 We have a good joke over here.

Speaker 83 Go for it.

Speaker 114 I called him Inert Reynolds.

Speaker 79 Wait.

Speaker 52 I'm sorry. I messed it up.

Speaker 8 Wait, what's happening?

Speaker 72 We called him Inert Reynolds, and it was great. It just got destroyed by

Speaker 129 It was too delayed.

Speaker 53 It was was too delayed on my part.

Speaker 72 I would have been so happy if all of our leads were in wheelchairs at the end.

Speaker 72 To me, as a final shot, I would have been

Speaker 71 thrilled.

Speaker 51 Yes.

Speaker 16 Guys, it's getting crazy up here.

Speaker 21 I've seen three cans of canned Gatorade.

Speaker 20 I didn't know it was Gatorade.

Speaker 72 Three cans.

Speaker 80 Everybody

Speaker 80 got to get their electrolytes.

Speaker 20 Did you raise your hand?

Speaker 14 Okay, great. What's your name?

Speaker 83 I'm Avery. How are you doing?

Speaker 19 Good.

Speaker 35 What's your question?

Speaker 138 Okay, first off, Jason, you you say Canadians are nice. Yeah, that's what you think.
We're nice until we're not.

Speaker 42 Such a nice way to put that.

Speaker 138 And also, in the bar scene, when Estelle Warren enters, she's wearing this really nice white jacket. Then later, when she walks up to the bar, she's wearing something completely different.

Speaker 138 Now, do we think that's just a continuity flaw, or do we think she deliberately changed clothes in the bathroom just so she could come up and talk to Jimmy Blonde?

Speaker 72 See, I wonder if there were sex scenes in between that we didn't get to see.

Speaker 85 Nah, I think that, I agree.

Speaker 88 I think that just means there are cut scenes for you and for the woman over there who clearly, that was the most important part of the movie for her.

Speaker 20 Never has this woman felt more seen in her life than what this dildo said up there.

Speaker 85 These two people connected.

Speaker 11 Get rid of this turd.

Speaker 129 I've never spent this much time in the back row, but I'm going to give it another shot. Here we go.
What do you got?

Speaker 140 This one is for June.

Speaker 140 I specifically want your opinion on why, when Bo is dying to get his girl back, instead of making a grand romantic gesture, why do you think he just chose a very public event and they just make small chit-chat and he just pulls out a ring and is like, hey, I want to get back together?

Speaker 18 God.

Speaker 18 Well, June,

Speaker 45 you can speak to this because that's what happened with us, right?

Speaker 72 I know. It's so hard because I related so hard.

Speaker 72 I related so hard. I mean, it's, it's so, that's why I asked earlier, what does Sophia Simone want?

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 72 Because she does, she does go back with him pretty quick. And I don't know why.

Speaker 50 They're German.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 72 Oh, boy. I don't understand it at all.

Speaker 111 I did feel like that scene, all of the scenes, especially that were about that stuff.

Speaker 93 were just illustrating, and again, I guess this is coming from Stallone, how profoundly these men do not understand their own emotions.

Speaker 71 They only understand

Speaker 85 the car, the race, the whatever.

Speaker 88 Even Bo is like, he says to Stallone, I pushed her away.

Speaker 56 I don't know why.

Speaker 71 I don't.

Speaker 124 These men are emotionally at zero.

Speaker 88 Their emotional intelligence is at a zero.

Speaker 64 And at the end of the movie, they're at like a two.

Speaker 18 Barely. And we are like

Speaker 20 heroes

Speaker 58 to forego winning

Speaker 91 to save a human life?

Speaker 60 We act like, isn't that incredible what they did?

Speaker 81 No, the bar is so low.

Speaker 9 It's such a human thing to do.

Speaker 72 But the bar is so low. I was like, wow, they're great, great.

Speaker 45 I want to tell you, I was like, why?

Speaker 33 Why are they doing that?

Speaker 43 There's people out there that are paid to do that.

Speaker 72 Well, Paul, I did raise the question of like where the rescue teams were. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Why plan?

Speaker 111 Well, they say in the thing that they, it's a difficult area to get to because it's a swamp that is one kilometer away

Speaker 1 from the tracks.

Speaker 129 Actually, where they built Alligator Alcatraz.

Speaker 51 Careful, I'll send you there right now.

Speaker 74 You don't think I can't send you there right now?

Speaker 72 One thing we didn't talk about is the fact that as they're on their tour, their cart tour,

Speaker 72 every country they go to, there's a giant

Speaker 71 flag of

Speaker 72 no, there's a giant flag of the country

Speaker 132 right

Speaker 72 by whatever the first scene is.

Speaker 71 Yep.

Speaker 24 Like this one.

Speaker 18 Square in a pool.

Speaker 57 And

Speaker 64 it doesn't need to be at the track where you might think it would be.

Speaker 18 No. No.

Speaker 111 No.

Speaker 42 Even though there's been a Chiron on screen that says where exactly they are.

Speaker 59 We need a sense of scope.

Speaker 72 We need a sense of that.

Speaker 111 They understand that the people watching this movie are absolute morons.

Speaker 5 I do want to show this one thing that I think is so

Speaker 105 great here.

Speaker 33 Hold on.

Speaker 86 Well, while you look for it, I can read a few things.

Speaker 98 This is, I wrote,

Speaker 54 ever since I have started dictating my notes while I watch the movie into my phone, my note-taking has changed

Speaker 88 in these ways.

Speaker 77 Here's one: I'm sobbing in my room at these men, trying to save memo under the water.

Speaker 42 Even as I dictate this, my voice is quivering.

Speaker 18 And then

Speaker 53 somehow, after all that, 35 minutes left, question mark exclamation point, then I wrote, sobbing again at, in quotes, don't see you, see me.

Speaker 86 Memo got me with that one.

Speaker 56 Don't see you, see me.

Speaker 88 Don't see that this could happen to you.

Speaker 42 Just see that, wow, memo fucking got me, man.

Speaker 53 That's when I was like, put memo in Fast and Furious.

Speaker 96 Are you crying? No, I'm okay. You're okay.

Speaker 72 I'm okay. But I do wonder, like, are we okay? I also cried during this movie.
Are we okay?

Speaker 92 Don't see you saying this.

Speaker 72 See,

Speaker 42 sobbing in a hotel room in Vancouver, Canada, which is a sentence I hope to never say again.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 117 You know, we obviously had a lot to say about this movie, but now it is time for a second opinion.

Speaker 9 Hey, I'm Bobby.

Speaker 55 And now it's time for Second Opinions.

Speaker 10 Remix.

Speaker 128 Gonna share some drama with my homie, Tall John. And hear the crowd ooh for Juna J song.
Gotta give it five stars because the movie was hyped. But if you're gonna ask a question, Paul holds the mic.

Speaker 128 We got Stallone grinning, the camera's spinning. Took 55 minutes just to reach the beginning.
And the movie is driven, but the plot is going nowhere. Camera's so zoomed in, I can count nose hairs.

Speaker 128 Gina Gershon rocking a denim hat. You could give it one shot, but you'll never top.
That's why I love Randy Harlan. So the mission at large, get on Amazon and give the movie five stars.

Speaker 128 When I say April, y'all say Hallie, April,

Speaker 10 April.

Speaker 128 When I say win this, y'all say battle.

Speaker 18 Win this.

Speaker 18 Win this.

Speaker 9 We love you, Avr, April.

Speaker 68 Thank you so much. That's amazing.

Speaker 129 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 81 Thank you so much.

Speaker 30 Thank you so much.

Speaker 26 3,293 total reviews.

Speaker 82 79% of them are five-star.

Speaker 119 These are called from Amazon.

Speaker 109 Christy Churchill writes in 2008, I have watched my VHS copy of Driven Raw.

Speaker 61 Hang on.

Speaker 18 Hang on.

Speaker 81 What does that mean?

Speaker 77 I'll be honest, I watched it much the same way.

Speaker 20 But that's how I watch most of our movies.

Speaker 80 Without protection.

Speaker 5 That's why I'm getting it on DVD now.

Speaker 109 I was reading some reviews from the people who gave this film one star.

Speaker 68 Well, they're saying, oh, well, this can't happen, and that's not real.

Speaker 34 Well, all I have to say is, Superman isn't real.

Speaker 24 Spider-Man isn't real.

Speaker 38 And I bet you watch those movies.

Speaker 55 My point is, it's a movie.

Speaker 15 It's made to entertain you.

Speaker 17 If you want real, watch a real thing.

Speaker 70 It's not a movie.

Speaker 31 Yeah, the storyline might be like Days of Thunder, but hey, in this movie, you get Stallone.

Speaker 35 What could be better than that?

Speaker 2 Five stars, title, action!

Speaker 17 John in 2015 writes, I love this movie.

Speaker 24 The sound is phenomenal.

Speaker 43 If you have a pair of 5.1 or above headphones, headphones, you need to own this movie. If you have a 7.1 or higher setup, you need to own this movie.

Speaker 42 If you have your center speaker hooked up to 76 DBs or above, this movie's second act will be incredible.

Speaker 34 Helen McGill in 2014 writes,

Speaker 43 Is a good movie if you like fast cars

Speaker 29 and drinking.

Speaker 9 Is there drinking in the movie?

Speaker 63 I don't think there's.

Speaker 75 I would argue there's almost no drinking in the entire movie.

Speaker 35 I would, yep,

Speaker 52 five stars driven.

Speaker 54 Do you think that's because the person watching the movie was drinking?

Speaker 81 I think so.

Speaker 72 I think she's like, if you're drunk, you're gonna love this.

Speaker 77 If you like fast cars and drinking, that's the only way to get through this piece of shit.

Speaker 28 Wow.

Speaker 68 Any final thoughts on the film Driven?

Speaker 121 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 72 I mean, still so many basic questions. Like,

Speaker 122 when

Speaker 72 the first sequence happened with Stallone and Jimmy, and he, I don't know what he did. He pulled out in front of him and slowed down or something.

Speaker 68 What happened in F12?

Speaker 72 It was the same scene from F1, but he was so mad that he had done that and was like, I'm never going to do that again.

Speaker 92 But what did he do?

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 29 He slowed down the race so the other guy would win.

Speaker 72 Isn't that what he's supposed to do as a supporting actor?

Speaker 66 He's not a blocker, blocker, June.

Speaker 62 Not a goddamn blocker.

Speaker 17 What do you think he's a supporting actor?

Speaker 14 June, he's thinking

Speaker 14 of the character.

Speaker 92 But I guess this is the big question.

Speaker 72 I don't know as that second racer, as a actor,

Speaker 72 what is he supposed to be doing?

Speaker 42 He is. No, you're right.

Speaker 54 Burt Reynolds is asking him to be, to not try and win, but to, and he's asking him to do a shady thing, which is

Speaker 54 he's asking him to pit when he doesn't need to pit so that he can exit in front of Bo.

Speaker 72 I call that strategy.

Speaker 36 I agree, but it seems like there is a code amongst the drivers that you can't speed up.

Speaker 42 The Brotherhood of Speed says, you can fuck my wife,

Speaker 80 but you cannot cut me off from the pit, bro.

Speaker 10 Amen.

Speaker 18 I will watch you fuck my wife.

Speaker 63 But you better not come out of the pit at me, bro.

Speaker 24 Because if you fuck my wife, that's fair.

Speaker 31 But if you do that, it's unfair.

Speaker 111 I'm just looking at the number of pedestrians that must have died during this.

Speaker 111 Justice for Memo.

Speaker 12 The rain race.

Speaker 59 I'm going to go out on a limb and say they shouldn't have rain race.

Speaker 72 Why would they have started that?

Speaker 85 Every single driver is like, I cannot see.

Speaker 72 But that's like a call it. But that is something that happens in the F1 movie, too, is that they're driving in slippery cabinets.

Speaker 109 Sometimes the rain happens.

Speaker 18 You know what was shocking to me? Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 33 I was going to say the one moment I just want to spend just a second on is a reporter at one point says to one of the guys, I don't know, he says, what would you do if you win?

Speaker 129 And then he goes, I'd throw a party.

Speaker 18 Oh my God. Like the reporter volunteers.

Speaker 71 Moment.

Speaker 72 He said, that was, I want a sequel just about that reporter.

Speaker 72 That was

Speaker 73 really meant to be a little bit more.

Speaker 18 I'd throw a party.

Speaker 52 Thanks.

Speaker 81 Throw a party. Sir?

Speaker 88 What's incredible is that we have a full three-dimensional understanding of the team.

Speaker 97 From Burt Reynolds to Jimmy to Joe Tanto to Memo to the whole thing.

Speaker 24 We don't know anybody else's team at all.

Speaker 88 We know Bo as an individual.

Speaker 74 We don't know his coaches at all.

Speaker 88 There are no bad guys in the movie, period.

Speaker 72 Well, Robert Sean Leonard.

Speaker 98 Okay, yes.

Speaker 75 A Craven

Speaker 49 agent slash brother?

Speaker 72 I loved when he said, like, how dare you. I deserved more than that as a manager.
I was like, no, you don't buddy.

Speaker 20 Wait a second.

Speaker 18 Wait a second.

Speaker 5 I'm just realizing something that I put together in that scene in the trailer.

Speaker 82 He goes, When I watched you in that go-kart lap those kids, he goes, You were a 13-year-old.

Speaker 5 I was like, Oh, I thought it was like a Chuck E.

Speaker 109 Cheese or something like that.

Speaker 70 I didn't know this is like one of these days.

Speaker 75 They were like doing racing like this.

Speaker 72 Yeah, I thought by the way, I laughed so hard at how small Stallone's trophy was. Oh, that

Speaker 42 I laughed and that he brought it to the gala to give to Jimmy.

Speaker 60 And that then later, Jimmy had it with him

Speaker 102 like a talisman.

Speaker 72 It's the tiniest little thing you ever did to see.

Speaker 56 It makes no sense.

Speaker 23 Maybe Stallone likes little things so he feels bigger.

Speaker 53 By the way, I bet you're right. Stallone, this is a life-size trophy for normal people.

Speaker 10 Whoa, I'm pretty big.

Speaker 35 I'm a pretty big guy. If this is

Speaker 113 a big, if normal people is big, oh, I'm a big guy.

Speaker 88 You know what was crazy to me in the memo death scene?

Speaker 80 Memo's car goes like vertical at some point.

Speaker 36 You then get Memo's point of view. You are given both Memo's eyes, and then you see Memo's point of view.

Speaker 66 I was like, whoa,

Speaker 57 we're about to die in the movie.

Speaker 63 We're about to be, this is the only time we've gotten Memo's point of view.

Speaker 85 We're about to watch the life get snuffed from him.

Speaker 51 And I was fucking turned on.

Speaker 124 No, that was a crazy moment.

Speaker 36 I was like, what is Rennie Harlan?

Speaker 75 By the way, without Rennie Harlan, this movie is

Speaker 14 unbearable. Dog shit.

Speaker 77 The fact that it's even coherent at all is due to him entirely.

Speaker 53 It is an absolute legend for how did this get made?

Speaker 34 Yeah, we love Rennie Harlan, and he says, I don't like this movie.

Speaker 23 So,

Speaker 35 would you recommend it?

Speaker 41 Yes. Absolutely.
Yeah, sure, me too.

Speaker 53 That's three across the board.

Speaker 97 I mean, Jesus, this is so fun.

Speaker 120 You know, this is a blast.

Speaker 72 When there were 40 minutes left, I was like, I was also like, how?

Speaker 20 Well, you know, how is that possible?

Speaker 120 I was watching part of it on the plane on my phone, right?

Speaker 53 And I stopped because I was like, I gotta wait until I'm at the hotel to watch this on the big screen, which has never happened.

Speaker 63 And boy, was I glad I did.

Speaker 62 Vancouver, you have been amazing.

Speaker 40 This has been a fantastic show

Speaker 40 this has been how did this get made

Speaker 40 we love it Jason Manzukas to Diane Rayfield I am

Speaker 40 I'll be out in the lobby signing books just give me like four or five minutes all right thank you everybody

Speaker 12 Thank you Vancouver. What a show.

Speaker 103 Thank you Vogue Theater Canada. We loved being back inside of you.

Speaker 34 That sounds dirtier when I say it out loud.

Speaker 117 You can get our very special brand new t-shirt that says Rosetta Stallone.

Speaker 34 It is one of my favorite designs that we have done. I know I've been saying that a lot recently, but they're all honest.
I love this one, though. Head over to hdtgm.com.

Speaker 34 You can click on our merchandise link there. You can also get yourself a How Did This Get Made hat.

Speaker 34 I also want to shout out Bobby, one of our second opinions singer from this episode with that beautiful song about Averil Halley.

Speaker 34 That was absolutely wonderful. Thank you you for that.

Speaker 34 Averil is still in the fight with cancer and, you know, from the last reports, seemingly really making some strides, but she still needs some love.

Speaker 34 And if you want to show her some of that love, you can send her a message at andrew at moviebitches.xyz, or you can mail her something at AvrilHalley, P.O. Box 641, Agora Hills, California, 91376.

Speaker 34 Nothing perishable, nothing scented.

Speaker 34 As always, if you have a correction or omission about this Stallone Summer Madness, if you want to get in there and talk about Driven, then you can leave me a voicemail at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K, or write a comment on our Discord at discord.gg/slash HDTGM.

Speaker 46 People, tonight, right now, this is the weekend of June.

Speaker 5 Diane Rayfield, that's right.

Speaker 103 She is in Weapons and Freakier Friday, two great films.

Speaker 5 I'm loving weapons.

Speaker 34 Weapons is like Paul Thomas Anderson

Speaker 134 meets John Carpenter.

Speaker 32 Truly worth seeing in the theater.

Speaker 34 And remember, if you love this show, then you are definitely following us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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Speaker 5 And last but not least, I got to thank our entire team to who this show would not be done.

Speaker 5 I am talking about our producer Scott Sani, Molly Reynolds, and our movie-picking producer Averill Halley and our engineer Casey Holford.

Speaker 32 That's all I got.

Speaker 5 We'll see you next week on Last Looks.

Speaker 34 Bye for now.