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Finally, he-manned the way you want to see him on Earth with a bunch of teens.

We saw Masters of the Universe, so you know what that means.

Now it's time for

how to discremate.

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Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made old school theme song.

Please welcome my two co-hosts, Jason Manzukas.

How are you, Jason?

I'm good, Paul.

How are you?

Very good.

And June Diane Rayfield, how are you, June?

I'm doing great.

How are you, Paul?

Really good.

I want to remind you guys, if you have not been reading them, Blake Harris has been writing amazing How Did This Get Made?

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He's interviewing real people from these movies, talking to them, and getting great stories.

Masters of the Universe is the same story there.

Check it out on slash film.

Here we go.

We have a very special guest today.

Please welcome to the program Emmy nominee.

At this point, Emmy nominee, Tatiana Mazlani, Orphan Black.

We are huge fans.

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Recording this on Emmy weekend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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This movie, Masters of the Universe, has been a movie that people have told us to do for a very long time and has been unavailable.

And it finally came on Netflix.

I can't imagine why this movie wasn't available to watch just easily.

It still wasn't available on Canadian Netflix, PA.

Oh, really?

No.

I had to buy this movie.

Well, we thank you.

You can see on this film.

This movie is.

Consider yourselves lucky.

Yeah, I do.

Now I own it.

Oh, yeah.

Well, now it's going to make a really nice piece in your bookcase of DVDs, just masters of the universe right up there.

This movie is, to me, and I know we're going to probably upset some die-hard He-Man fans, but has nothing to do with He-Man at all, really.

I mean, like, anything that I remember of it, Orko and a Tiger.

I don't know the He-Man mythology.

Okay.

This is my intro to it.

So I was like, I just took it at face value, like, this is what he is.

Well, it's interesting because the first shot of He-Man, like, the first kind of, the first time we see him after we meet Skeletor, he looks just disinterested.

Yeah.

Just like,

it's like the strangest reaction.

He's just like, yeah.

Well, this brings me.

He doesn't even want to be there.

It brings me to my first point, which is He-Man seems to be not spectacular at anything.

But his fight style is like marked at.

Like, it's like a, it's like a rehearsal.

Yeah.

Like, we're just like kind of going to walk through the motion.

It's slow and deliberate.

Like 50%.

Let's do this at 50%.

Is he man's?

I mean, are his ability.

I don't also don't know that he-man's we have to only base it on what we're watching, so I guess.

Okay, but he's just strong.

But he doesn't even seem that strong.

He doesn't seem...

No, he doesn't.

He doesn't seem that much stronger than anyone that he fights.

Sure.

He doesn't seem like his sword work is any much better.

He just kind of holds it in the air.

Yeah.

To be fair, he uses the sword more, more than using the sword to cut down people.

He uses it to deflect laser blasts and to hold in the other hand from the hand that he's holding a gun in.

He uses shooting guns always.

A lot of gun shooting.

He uses his sword as a shield.

Yes.

And then uses his gun as his weapon.

Yeah.

Which is a bizarre thing.

I don't, I did not.

I did not play with He-Man.

The cartoons were not anything I watched, but I don't remember him having a laser gun as part of his setup.

It also felt like he was just kind of picking those up off the ground.

Like it wasn't something he had.

It was like, oh, fucking scavenging.

well it was like playing a game of halo like you run around and be like oh pick up guns

yeah but was this considered like a he-man movie like yes i mean this is the old this is the he-man this

wow live-action he-man again i don't know he-man i don't feel connected to him as a character but i feel badly for him but do you now this is it well but here's the thing this was the end of the movie that spoiler at the end of the movie he does take the sword back and goes i have the power which is not the he-man saying but it is what but like yeah he says by the power

isn't that the end of he-man saying by the power of grace he goes I have the power oh okay I think that is he says power twice in his

by the power of grace gold I have the power

but he

he but even when he like when he does that It's the first time that he has done that and he had the sword the entire time.

I don't understand what that gave him.

The power didn't seem to be.

He's giving him the power that Skeletor was trying to steal.

Which is the power of the younger.

Like that cosmic power kind of thing.

Well, which brings me to my next question, which is, can anyone succinctly describe what the plot of this movie was?

Oh, wow.

I know the emotional journey of the teens.

Like, I feel like Courtney Cox's character was

in this movie.

Yes.

She's so in the movie.

She's like 100%

in this movie.

I feel like she's giving, I mean, she is committed to this character, which is, I mean,

I love like, sometimes when you look at like the cast of friends, they did do a lot of weird things.

Like, Jennifer Anison was in Leprechaun.

Oh, yeah.

Like, Courtney Cox is in Masters of the Universe.

Which also has a Leprechaun-esque character.

Oh, yeah.

This movie.

What is her emotional journey, though?

Let's see what happens.

Well, the thing is, she lost her parents in a plane crash.

Her dad was the pilot.

And it was just to go to a beach, which seemed really close.

Like, we're going to the beach.

And a plane?

I think it was that.

First of all, we see the house that she lives in with her parents it's modest yeah

at best

it is very modest yeah so her dad is not we get what you're saying i mean the subtext of that is she's like a poor gross person super gross i don't okay she's a disgusting garbage poor person who wears uh onesie pajamas her parents cannot afford a private plane no no they're flying like a propeller her dad is like a propeller plane pilot i think i mean i think June's flying.

I think June's saying that he can only afford a remote control airplane at best.

Even then,

no, I have to be totally honest.

I agree.

Let's break it down, June.

Flying as a hobby.

Her dad is rich people.

That is for rich people.

The better people of the planet.

Sure, sure.

Society's chosen one.

Absolutely.

We're going to get a lot of feedback on who and who's able to fly.

Well, look, I mean, look, should be able to fly?

Out of our skies, poor people.

Either way, to rent, to, first of all,

have a plane and to

get a lot of people.

To keep the plane in a hangar.

That's

expensive.

It's like buying a boat.

That's right.

Kevin Hart can afford it, not her dumb parents.

Yeah, they live in a very modest home.

So, okay, so

it's a very good place to be a pretty nice little town.

Very idyllic kind of.

It's fine.

It's fine.

For gross people, it's fine.

June's really changed, guys.

Fine.

It might as well be Detroit.

June right now is burning money as she's talking.

I do think it goes to her character's journey because she is supposed to be just a girl who's waitressing for some extra cash and wants to get out of this town, this podunk town.

And so in that

scenario, her parents don't own a private plane.

No.

They do not.

Well, by the way, why overcomplicate it?

Just say they got into a car accident, right?

I mean, a plane to fly to a portion of the plane.

What I was so ready

for, I was so ready for the scene in which, like, they justified why they were on a flight because I thought when they went into that portal, they were going to zoom past their parents mid-air.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What?

That makes more sense to me than what happened.

It does?

Yes, absolutely.

Because why else?

It makes more sense that you both anticipated that we would see them flying in mid-air next to the plane?

Because grab them.

Grab them.

Grab them.

Wait.

Grab them in the middle.

And get them in there and then all head out to their yes and to the other side.

Are you going to grab them out of the plane?

Or just grab the plane.

If your cars, by the way, cars are going through that portal.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, they could be going through.

So you think the parents are continually in this portal of the airplane?

No, I thought for sure we were going to find them like mid-air and they were going to exit on the other side.

Because why else we just put them in the air?

Why?

Yeah.

Why?

Unless to use it.

Yes.

It was insane.

Yeah.

That was insane.

Yes.

That was insane that they didn't do that.

In my opinion.

You know what I loved about that side story was the introduction of it where it cuts to like

after like the cute banter like over chicken wings or something between Courtney Cox Cox and her boyfriend.

Kevin, Kevin, sorry.

Who's the real hero of the movie because he's a man.

Played by

so great.

So and then and then it cuts to like a wide shot of just the car and she goes, I really want to go say bye to my parents.

He goes, yeah, sure.

And it's just like, okay, like, or I want to go to the graveyard to say bye to my parents.

Yeah, sure.

It's just like, okay, that's the next thing, the next scene that we do.

They also, by the way, when they're at that grave site, they're just looking at the gravesite and then it's like a really emotional moment.

And they're like, oh, cool.

Look, this thing just fell out of the sky.

Oh, wow.

And they start playing with it immediately.

All emotion is dropped.

This thing is like, beep, boop, beep.

And he's like, it's a Japanese synthesizer.

The gun that fell from the sky.

By the way, what it is, Japanese synthesizer.

By the way, just in case you are confused, yes, this movie starts in Eternia, which is the He-Man land, and then quickly and without any real...

Skeletor and all of those, like, all of the components of He-Man, I'm assuming.

Right, for the first five minutes, and then clicks over to just present day America happy they did though and so happy but it but for no but with no transition it was like we're in it we're in a rib shack

yes it was as if seven minutes into Zardaz yeah

he finds himself in Sean Connery finds himself in like 1984 suburban America and is just running around with a rifle in his weird red diaper going like Zardaz like it's that jarring a juxtaposition And they don't seem, they don't, A, seem to be trying to hide being in America.

Well, they don't know where they are.

They just know they're on another planet.

But okay, this is my big problem.

They don't seem, have they done this type of time traveling before through portals?

I don't think so.

Yeah.

And has anyone in present day, 1984 or whatever year it was, seen anyone from...

Eternia?

Yeah.

Because nobody seems that surprised.

No, yeah.

Oh, no.

There's like a real-life gremlin walking around?

Yes, that guy.

Nobody's that guy.

That guy.

I just kept thinking Jar Jar Binks for some reason

from his introduction.

This movie is, the production values are so terrible that I kept worrying for the actor in that prosthetic because it moved so little.

I was like, he must be dying.

By the way, that's Billy Barty, famous Billy Barty, who's been in a lot of costumes like that.

But by the way, these costumes hurt the actors very badly.

I felt bad for Frank Langella.

Well, Meg Langellator.

Well, I think his is the one that doesn't doesn't have that many problems.

Okay.

Because Meg Foster's costume, she's

the woman who fought around with He-Man.

Evelyn.

Oh, S.

Oh, no, the other one.

Evil Lynn.

Evil, you're right.

Evelyn.

Meg Foster is Evelyn.

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I'm sorry to go back to the parents.

I just need to for one second.

So

Courtney Cox.

So let me understand.

They were all planning to go to the beach

that day.

Yes.

No.

No, I don't think so.

She wanted them to do something with her and stay.

They were like, we're going to go to the beach.

And And she's like, I'm going to stay home and study.

But she was really going to stay home and make out with her boyfriend.

I see.

That's what happened.

But was it that they were going to not get on the plane if they were going to go to the beach?

Yes.

That was my understanding.

It was like, let's go to the beach, or we're going to get on this flight for some reason.

I thought at the end of the movie, they were like, we're going to go fly to the beach.

And they're like, no, no, we can't fly to the beach.

Yes.

I think that is what they said at the end.

I think that she just thought if she was on the plane with them or stopped.

I mean,

I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, because now she's creating a final destination situation where maybe now death will come after the parents.

But see, this is the issue I had with the film.

There was no emotional journey for her.

If she had somehow made the wrong decision in the beginning that caused her parents' death and then come back to make such a different decision.

Well, she came the decision that she made

was like, oh, don't get on the plane.

But there was no...

Oh, right.

She just stopped them from still with Kevin.

She literally steals their, like, it seemed to me like their plane keys and runs away.

And ran away.

And my father says, give me back those keys.

And then she just ran away from the house it wasn't like I'm gonna spend time with you yeah

it's like a Laura Ashley like

like it looked like little house in the prairie like like like oh my god what we haven't explained that we're talking about is at the end of the movie after they save eternia and defeat

Skeletor the weird little troll guy sends them back to earth but before Courtney Cox's parents have died so they're still alive so that's why she's anyway who cares

well so the movie obviously starts off, and I did, and for the beginning of it, we were looking at each other and going, I didn't understand

what was going on.

There is actually like the dialogue, I pulled a clip of this dialogue here, which is just the nonsense words of this is like the dialogue in the first five minutes here.

Hey, man, I shall point eight four chromons to Moonrise at Grace Cole.

We better find the key and we better find it fast.

What's your plan?

When we find the key, Gwill or we'll set the coordinates for Grace Cole.

I'm sure.

We'll use the element of surprise.

Oh, sure, we'll drop right into the throne room, fight off two or three thousand of Skeletor's cracked troops, break into the force field, and free the sorceress.

Right.

If we're going to split up, we'd better synchronize our personal locators.

You both ready?

And if you find the key, activate the source.

Oh.

Poor Dolph Lundren.

Poor Dolph Lundgren.

I feel like all of his lines, they're like, okay, he can't say more than like five words in a row.

Well, here's the...

So, buddy, you're going to do all the talking, other guy with a mustache.

Well, here's the thing, too.

Apparently, he did not know English during this film.

Oh, really?

Blake Harris, who's been writing Our Things, actually interviewed his person who coached him.

He was not supposed to be, his voice was not supposed to be in the movie.

Oh, like Hercules in New York?

Yes, and they were going to give him, in his contract, it was he had three chances to dub it, and if it didn't work, then they would get another actor, but they always intended to get another actor.

But then the movie lost all of its financing, and they're like, oh, we got to rush this out.

So they didn't have time to redub the movie, so they just left it in.

Wow.

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He-Man also disappears for a large chunk of the movie.

Well, that's the thing I wrote.

I was like, there's a part of the, what I was shocked about was the, here's a movie about He-Man and the Masters of the Universe kind of mythology and all this stuff, but most of it takes place in suburban America on like Main Street, where every once in a while

a huge battle will break out between Skeletor's forces and He-Man and his guys, and there are never townspeople townspeople around anywhere.

Like, a war is happening in their tiny towns.

I mean, they also have spaceships, and everybody's dressed like Darth Vader.

And the music is very Star Wars.

Oh, yeah.

You're ripping off Star Wars

everywhere for no reason.

I mean, it is so, I mean, yeah, they are straight up black stormtroopers.

I mean, they're just, instead of white stormtroopers, they're black stormtroopers.

That's it.

There's no real difference to them.

Did anyone else feel also that

we were getting set up for He-Man and Courtney Cox's character

to find love?

Oh, really?

Oh, I thought that was a good thing.

I thought that in that first scene.

I thought it seemed to have an issue with Kevin.

It was like Kevin was a bad boyfriend, but he wasn't a bad boyfriend.

He seemed to be a pretty good guy.

He was really into music.

You know what, though, I didn't like was I didn't like that every time something happened to them, Kevin was like, okay, I'm in charge of it.

You know, like they find, she's like, hey, look at this thing over here.

And he's like, oh, cool.

Japanese synthesizer.

You stay here.

I'm going to go take care of it.

you stay in the school you do like yeah like she is consistently marginalized and then at the end he-man is like they have this big moment she gets hit in battle she takes the hit like all this stuff and he-man is like goodbye um Courtney Cox character and then he says to Kevin you take care of her like

come on man by the way she also falls for the mirage of her dead mother whoa big time

how did you really not know that there is sorcery going on there

she bought it so quickly because her mom's like we are, like, I wrote it down, I think, because she was like, we.

Do secret work.

Yeah, we've been doing secret work.

It was not set up that her mom was like involved.

It seemed like her mom could have been anything, but she's like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

My mom was doing secret work.

Had to fake her.

That upset me.

I mean, the whole thing with the parents, you know, it was pretty, I think, emotionally manipulative.

Yeah.

Do you think?

It's just like, I can't watch this.

This is just

one thing that when we were in Skeletor's Castle, by the way, I think Frank Langela is awesome in this movie and clearly, I think, just wrote his own kind of, like, he made Skeletor this like Shakespearean villain.

Totally.

Like, his speeches are amazing.

His voice is amazing.

Didn't you feel like the Skeletor mask made him look like Jack Palance?

At the beginning of the movie, I was like, oh, it's Jack Palance.

And then I was like, oh, no, that's just the mask looks like Jack Palance.

It's actually Frank Langela.

It's like how they took the William Shatner mask and made the Halloween Jason Vorheimer.

So yeah, this is like for Legend of Curly's Gold and they just use it for Frank Langella.

Oh, not Jason Vorheim.

I'm still not clear on

what that machine does.

The key?

The key.

What it does and what it is.

I didn't get any of it.

I didn't get why the portal opened.

I didn't know why.

Now he's the master of the universe.

It actually seemed to me that the bigger deal was taking that sword and putting it in that special sword slot.

Oh, right.

The sword slot that had like a weird

alarm on it, like little blinking lights.

Like you can't take the sword out now.

So the thing that always gets me when I looked at Skeletor's Castle is, you know, I think, you know, for movie sets, obviously you want it to be big and bold, but I didn't like how many balconies there were without railings.

I felt that that would be a very dangerous castle to work in.

It was too, everything was too elevated.

You put children in the movie.

But still, I think like

being the edge of a building.

I just think I wouldn't want to be walking there and just, you know, with some texting or something, just walk off the side.

Yeah.

It's a poorly designed castle.

But he was also in the Skeletor Castle, which his throne was in front of the portal that allowed him to be the master of the universe.

So it seemed like, I don't know if he was like, like, just squatting on that or like, well, because

when it opened up him up, yeah, like, it just seemed like

in the castle, like, that portal opened up behind him, but it seemed like that was built into the castle.

Oh, oh, yeah, maybe.

I don't know.

I didn't understand that.

When he harnessed the power of the universe,

his aim like went out the window hard.

Like he was like all powerful, but just couldn't quite zap He-Man with the power of the universe.

But the power of the universe brings about one of the worst,

one of the worst fight scenes I've ever seen, so much so that they do it in the dark.

The two leads finally fight in the dark, and someone just has a flashlight on them to show their like mediocre at best stunt work.

Like, why not just get two pros in there?

Frank Lynn Joe is in a full mask.

Dolph Lundgren is a

monstery, huge, you know, bulked up guy.

Like, just get, have one good fight.

It's in the dark.

It is literally in the dark.

You have to squint back.

I guess like through shadows, this is a pretty badass fight.

Nothing.

I wanted to know more about the team, the He-Man team, because the old guy, Mustachio.

Oh, I wish his name was Mustachio.

So there's the old guy, and then there's the woman, and then there's the whatever his name is, the creature.

Yeah, Grilledor or something.

Grilledor.

Grildor, who everyone loves.

No matter what Grillor did, they're like,

oh, Grilledor.

Yeah, they're laughing at him.

Yeah, did it again, Grilledor.

I was sad about that, though, because when

they first went through the portal and they ended up, I don't know, wherever they were, he was.

Next to the cow?

Yes, next to the cow.

That little creature had his face stuck in like a pond.

And he kind of became a dog?

Like, they were like, he was like,

like shook himself off and they're like whoa gildor and then they're laughing at him like oh you almost drowned

well it's basically like oh your arms don't work enough to even pick yourself up off the ground you would drown face first in a puddle if we weren't able to get you because apparently your limbs aren't strong enough to remove you

from the

bottom by the way i mean just to just draw one quick comparison here from my knowledge of He-Man as a child, I haven't really revisited it, but He-Man's He-Man's like sidekick was a character named Orko who was like a wizard you never saw his face he wore like a hat and he had like uh and he floated and didn't he-man have some sort of animal with him too he had a tiger yeah cat yeah cat you're right yeah yeah yeah yeah but what about Shira that the woman that's a side character I mean she's like she had her own show that she's that's like the red sonia to his uh Conan okay so

which these are unrelated which these two things

are unrelated I thought they were a father

to even describe to even bring up Conan the Barbarian in reference to He-Man would be almost impossible because what would they have in common?

I mean, they're so different.

So, so different.

What about Conan?

I could say.

What about Conan and Space?

Oh, yeah, that works.

We'll do Conan and Space.

We can't call it Conan.

Okay, He-Man.

He-Man.

Now, the father.

I don't think they were father-daughter.

I don't think they were.

I think they were.

They were.

Because she at one point was like father.

Yeah, right, yeah.

Really?

Side names.

Yeah, yeah.

And by the way, what was the side plot of her being

a vegetarian?

They all were.

Oh, I didn't realize that.

On the planet, I think, in the future, everyone's a vegetarian.

Why not set that up just like the smallest amount, like, just so we can get a little bit, like, like, just like, wow, they do things weird here.

They didn't seem to be

surprised at...

anything.

They're eating ribs.

They're eating ribs.

Yeah.

In this movie.

Wherever they're from, when they get to Earth, they find ribs.

Their first mission is to get food.

They use a giant grappling hook to steal someone's ribs out of the back seat of their car.

While they're making it out.

Yeah, and then Grilledor doesn't know how to eat ribs, so he just drinks the barbecue sauce down.

I was so worried about that actor because all I could think of was like the gravy always being in his mask,

just like sitting in the pocket of his face.

Again,

another costume thing, the guy who played Beastman in this, his teeth were so large that he was unable to close his mouth.

So when he would just drool, he would just drool down his costume and just weigh him down.

Like apparently.

The added weight of drool, he's like, I have three quarts of drool in my boots right now.

Well, and then the other guy, the dad, or we think the dad, he also had a lot of sweat in his boots.

And he said that every day he would dump out sweat from his boots because it was the costumes are so confined.

He was wearing what looked like a children's Halloween costume of Spaceman.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like he was wearing utter nonsense mustachio.

And she was wearing a metal thong.

Did any of you notice that?

That was the only thing I was cool with in this

practical.

Yeah, she, I mean, that I never, also, I don't understand why He-Man, and again, if we're going to this idea that...

I did think He-Man looked great.

All right.

So oily.

So oily, but I do think, I think he's a beautiful man.

He looks like Killian Murphy.

Oh, do you realize?

Oh, yeah.

That's interesting because there's a picture of Killian Murphy, and I actually look a lot like him.

And when my dad saw the movie Sunshine, he

was like, Killian Murphy.

Your dad thought you were the actor.

My dad thought I was, first of all, the lead of like a major motion picture.

And he never meant to.

He just happened to see in the movies one day.

So that's its own story.

But he thought

that I was the lead of the movie.

By the way, I'm just blowing up a picture of this show.

I'm now the man.

I'm now realizing.

I've seen some sort of similarity.

When I was a brunette, there was.

When I was a brunette, it was possible that I might have been confused with Killian Murphy.

By my father.

Yeah, by your father.

The person who arguably knows you best.

Sweetheart, I've just seen the entire movie that you're in.

I loved it.

That's crazy.

What?

I know.

It is crazy.

It is crazy.

I mean, you and your dad have very interesting theories on movies.

I know people make fun of their parents, like, oh, my dad calls Matt Damon, Matt Damien, like those kind of like disconnects.

But my dad thought that I was a man, a male actor, who was the lead of a movie, playing a male character.

Wait, did he think you were like having a separate male career that you were like, you couldn't talk about?

Why didn't she tell me she was the lead of this movie?

Knowledge of things, like he's just like, well, you're, I know you're in movies and TV.

Like, why couldn't it be you?

In some ways,

I took it as a compliment

because I think he thinks that should be me.

Maybe it is.

And he heard me talking about stuff.

Maybe this is the project.

Oh, my God, I love that.

This is a project.

This project where you're,

but it also goes to show.

But it also goes to show your dad might have just, like...

My question is, did your dad think that Killian Murphy

was a woman that entire movie?

Would that make his re-watching of it interesting?

Because if he thought it was you, he may have a whole different

female character.

I just didn't understand why they called the main woman in the movie Mike.

Oh my gosh, that is unbelievable.

So outrageous.

I just like you dead watching and be like, oh, June.

He also gets really caught up on, like, do you remember when he saw

The Departed and he was so upset because he felt like all the actors looked exactly the same?

Like, he feels that.

You did suffer from face blindness.

Face blindness, yeah.

He feels feels that they should look so different because otherwise he can't follow.

Well, the good news with this movie is that he would have no problem because they're so diverse, these characters.

Karg.

Karg.

Karg.

Karg?

I wrote Karg is my favorite.

Carg, me too.

Carg right here.

Karg exclamation.

Yes.

I have a.

I spelled it with a C.

I spelled it with a K.

I wrote Karg leader question mark.

Like

the smallest, most diminutive character of this entire world.

And you're their leader.

He's like, go, get them, get them.

No, he's like the head of the bounty hunters or whatever.

They have like a straight from Star Wars introduction of the, you know, when they see, when, when they introduce the bounty hunters on the, on

beastman.

And they do in Robot too.

Here are the bounty hunters.

And they're, each and every one of them are ludicrous.

Yes.

Frogman.

Frogman's costume was amazing.

That was awesome.

And I was like, why did he get killed off so fast?

Everyone else's mask is like restrictive.

You can't tell their mouth is moving.

Oh, they should have killed Beastman instantly.

Beastman?

They put ammonia in his face.

Where did that ammonia come from?

Why was there ammonia at a sound check

at a high school grad?

Well, by the way, that's minutes before they just have a fight in an abandoned box factory.

Like they run out of the school and they're just in just a place with empty boxes.

Everyone's getting tossed out.

I thought for sure that when I saw that the senior ball was going, the theme was the fantasy, I thought for sure we were going to do like a really cool sequence where where these fantastical characters were kind of in the sets and in the and that just never happened.

Yeah, that's a missed opportunity.

Well, I mean real misstep.

Well, I think it was probably extras casting.

They just didn't have anybody like because it's like

the movie.

She's leaving before.

She's leaving before the senior dance or whatever.

Or graduation.

Or graduation.

And it didn't make any sense, but yet she's like, she'd go to the sound check and she's like, just let me be here for a second.

Yeah, Courtney Cox is.

Yeah, go ahead.

No, the sound check was a solo sound check

at night with no one checking the sound.

Just him basically pre-hooking up his instruments.

Like, I'll leave this here for tomorrow night.

Tomorrow night, we'll really get into it.

And then vibing on the little Japanese synthesizer.

And by the way, by himself, like, so was he just sound checking for, like, he's in to play keyboards.

I don't know.

Can you sound check on your own or you need someone else to?

You need somebody in the back to be like raising levels.

Yeah, to be okay, a little bit more.

Give me more in the monitor.

And by the way, this was their last date.

Like, this was set up as their last date drive her to the airport or whatever and she's like let me go let me go to the grave site let's do your sound check and then i'll leave forever like that was a real romantic and then in the middle of that in the middle of that she's like uh

he's like you know what even though you're about to leave i'm gonna bring this japanese synthesizer that fell from the sky down to charlie's see what he thinks of it Let's not do that together.

She's like, I'm going to stay here and say goodbye to the school or whatever.

So they split apart for a part of this last, their last hour on Earth.

Yeah.

By the way, also note that she has not packed up her parents' house.

Like her plan seems to have been to just leave it.

Yeah.

To just simply walk away.

Incredible Hulk style.

Like duffel bag.

Get out of there.

I just was reading one fact as you guys were talking about.

The guy who plays Saurod, we were talking about the guy who has the best costume.

I think the reason why he was not too much in the film is because he was technically blind when he was in that costume.

But

the prosthetics made him blind.

No.

yes, I mean not not in real life.

He could see he couldn't see.

He could not see, so he was blind.

So he had to do everything in the movie.

He wore contact lenses that were extremely painful and reduced his vision considerably.

So during the action sequences, because of the dim lighting, he could not see at all and had to perform all of his stunts blind.

Oh, my God.

Whenever I see people in movies from this era with those wild contact lenses, I always am like, oh, they are miserable.

Yeah, because those were like basically just like one-pound pieces of glass they would just shove into your eye.

Hard contacts.

That's like, yeah, like that's when like Jim Carrey had like a marine on set to help him deal with pain for the Grinch because he had to put these contacts in that were like super painful.

So it was like a guy that was like talking him through the pain of old contacts.

In order to then be caught like action and be the Grinch.

Yeah.

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There is there's so much to kind of just

talk about Kevin for one second.

Sure, of course.

So master songs.

So Kevin's journey at the end, he must recall and play the notes.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yeah.

Can I just play?

Can I have him?

Can I have him say his pitch about this?

This is Kevin's pitch.

Here we go.

Okay.

Wait a minute.

I've got it.

I've got it.

This is Kevin figuring out.

That's it.

That's it.

How did you do that?

I don't know.

If I hear a tune a couple of times, I can usually remember it.

Besides, it had a good hook.

I was going to use it in one of my songs.

By the way, that's not also a talent.

Like, if I hear a song a couple of times, I can remember it.

Everybody can do that.

So yes, go ahead.

Well,

so in the beginning, he wants her to show up for his soundtrack.

I guess my question is, are we supposed to believe that he is nervous about performing and is not confident in himself as a musician?

And then by the end of the movie, he's able to...

Oh, I think you're reading way more into this.

No,

I actually think what it is, is that

what they need is something that he happens to be able to do.

Like, he has a secret, like, a secret

tool that they need.

He can remember a song because he's a musician.

He's a keyboard player.

It wasn't in this clip, but at one point, he says to the creature, to the little troll, Grillor?

Grilledor.

He says, Grillor, I don't know.

Guildemore, he says to him, Gryffindor.

Gryffindor.

Gryffindor.

I think it's Gryffindor.

I wrote it.

He says to Glendale.

Glendale Galleria.

He says to Guinness Paltrow, you know,

I'm scared to do it.

I'm nervous to do it.

Yeah.

That's about their first time having sex, though.

Everybody else thinks that

Kevin and Grilledor are totally doing it.

That would be the sequel that they find love.

Yeah.

Grilledor, are you kidding?

That dude is hot.

By the way, also

good to go.

Grilledor's a party guy.

He can make a car in an instant.

He finds funny props and costumes.

Oh, like he is.

He-Man, for a solid 40 minutes of this movie, He-Man is driving around suburban America in a 1958 Ford Impala.

Like a pink shooting.

A pink Ford Impawla.

It's cruel.

With a neon light on the back.

Yes.

And there's no seeming need for it.

No, they don't travel

faster.

It doesn't make them do anything.

No, they can't chase it, but at the end, they kind of drive through a portal.

Gildar has fucking spaceships.

He's driving down Main Street Little America, so like Spawnside America, in a spaceship.

By the way, one of my favorite scenes in the entire movie, Skeletor is on a giant open-air spaceship, akin to a parade float.

Yep.

The good guys are like hiding out on a roof, and it's a big sneaker-upper moment because Skeletor just rises up up above them, but he's a giant.

It's like, that's giant.

It's like a plane landing on your head.

Ooh, where did you come from?

Why are they on the roof?

There's been so much airplay.

Like so many people attacking from the air.

They're like, where do we go?

The roof.

I think they go to the roof

because

that's the only way that the spaceship can appear to be flying.

Because of the forklift.

It's the perspective of the people on the roof.

So it's just being held up by like a forklift or whatever.

So it looks like.

And by the way, it does raise and lower like a forklift.

And they just rip off Back to the Future in this with their hoverboards.

They have like hovered discs and and people are flying around, which goes to one of my theories.

Whenever we do movies like this, there's always like a theory of like, well, for me, my theory is that when a bad movie is here, it's those flying, like anything that's a hoverboard or a skateboard.

Whenever there's a scene like that, they're like, kids will like this.

We'll get them on a, I'll get them on a hover thing.

But it's like He-Man, precariously on this like little hover thing.

It was not even

cool.

He didn't look cool at all.

He was so stiff.

Just so stiff on this like little thing that looked like it was going to teeter over.

Go, get off it.

Just run down the back.

Just Run.

You're like He-Man.

And again, I just wanted to bring up this one thing about He-Man in his costume.

Yes, I'm sure he looks great, but he...

Well, he looks a lot like me because he looks like

that.

I think he's an attractive guy.

He's got me on horn.

You did at one point just exclaim, he's sexy.

What?

About Dolph Lundgren?

He's not sexy.

I will give you.

I will give you.

He's good looking.

He's handsome.

His body's amazing.

He's not sexy at all.

Okay.

What is his deal?

Where is he from?

Dolphin.

Like, I don't know anything about my name.

M-I-T Grad.

So he's a super smart mathematician.

That is the truth.

He is from Sweden.

And yeah, those are the two facts I know about him, is that he's super smart.

Is he just famous for He-Man?

Is that Rocky?

No, he's not.

Rocky IV.

He was like the Russian who fought

Ivan Dragov.

Right?

Drago.

Drago.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, so I think that was his big claim to fame, was like Rocky IV.

And then he became a kind of B actor in like these kind of big action.

He was like one of the original Punishers.

But yeah, but like he's done a bunch of that kind of stuff.

Yeah, he was in.

So it was Rocky 4, Masters of the Universe, and then I think Red Scorpion was a big movie.

And then it's all just been like...

It just was a lot of like Men of War, Hidden Assassin, Silent Trigger, Blackjack, the Minion.

So he's just become that guy.

I love those.

Even those titles are perfectly generic.

Oh, yeah.

The Trigger.

Uh-oh, guys, I just saw this.

This is in post-production for Dolph.

Kindergarten Cop 2.

Oh interesting.

Yeah.

Oh, he's also in the new Cohen Brothers movie Hail Caesar.

So that's interesting.

Yeah.

Good for him.

Can we talk about the cop?

Oh, yes.

Oh, yes.

Amazing.

Incredible performance, like the most ticks I've ever seen an actor do.

This is amazing.

This is the, for those of you who don't know, this is the principal from Back to the Future.

This is Strickland from Back to the Future playing a very similar character in this.

I mean, yeah, he, this cop is.

Where do you think this is?

This is my first question about the cop.

Where do you think the movie is set?

Like, where in America?

Because his accent.

He's a New York cop.

Yeah.

He's got a cop.

And he's dressed like a New York cop.

He's dressed in a very long leather trench coat.

Yeah.

And he has a thick Bronx New York accent.

I'm going to guess it's like Middle America.

I'm going to guess like Ohio.

Absolutely.

Indiana.

Where did he come from?

He seemed like small town U.S.

Jaming states.

Oh, boy.

Okay, this is like a, you guys are playing a really boring game of password.

Pennsylvania.

Illinois.

Oh, God.

It's every territory.

But by the way, his energy and attitude

is...

That's the South.

His energy and attitude is of a real beaten-down New York cop.

Like, all right, come over here.

I got dead kids in there.

Like, you're coming with me.

Like, where he should have been the cop of, I've never dealt with this.

What's going on?

It should be like Andy Griffith.

It should be just like, this never happens here.

And instead, he's like, all right, you're coming downtown.

In the middle, I wrote, like, I was like, who am I, who am I rooting for here?

Who's the dick?

Is it the cop or the boyfriend?

Because they both come at each other hard,

aggressively hard.

Yeah.

But

it's the name of a porno I've read.

I love it.

My favorite was when he saw the thing, the

keto.

It's thing.

Yeah.

And we just had this, the best reaction shot in a movie I've ever seen was just him like tongue wriggling around in his mouth, then like hand on face, like twitching around.

Like he just did every movie, every possibly

any choice.

Every choice he made it.

And they just let it, it's the longest shot at the movie.

They let it live on him.

And like this sustains itself.

Keep on going.

Oh my God, I love this.

He did everything he could do.

Everything.

You know that like panic if you're shooting something and you like no one's calling cutting you're like

on going this is like

turning his own tie to spin, like,

and he goes, like, he's really suspect of everybody until the end of the movie.

Can we just hear this is my favorite?

I think my favorite part.

So they like this, the day is saved, Skeletor is defeated.

Oh, well, they go from Earth back to Eternia.

In the Impala.

The cop comes with them.

Yes.

He's now fighting with laser guns, too.

Yeah.

He just picked up a laser gun.

By the way, the town has been kind of destroyed, or at least the guitar shop.

It's definitely been destroyed.

Yeah, guitar shop.

Charlie P.S., one of my favorite characters in cinema.

Yeah, I love it.

Just like the wacky buddy Charlie, who's like wearing every piece of clothing you could possibly wear, like leather hats.

He's wearing all the accessories.

He's involved.

Like, he looks like Paul Schaefer from the early 80s.

Like, that kind of like, I'm wearing everything.

I'm a musician, man.

It's cool.

And his shop oddly has like police scanners and then just a lot of keyboards.

Oh, my keyboards.

Like, he literally says I think Mike is a bad guy.

Why does he have a police scanner there?

Why does he have a shotgun behind the front?

They're like, you got a shotgun, right?

Charlie?

I was like, yeah.

It's small town America.

Everybody's robbing

the music store.

Lubick says it so like he's like, you know, if someone comes in and causes trouble, you got a gun.

And he seemed to be of the age of the teenagers.

Like, he didn't seem

like

Charlie.

Charlie.

He didn't seem like.

But it was established that he owned that place.

There was a neon sign that said Charlie's.

Let's take a listen to this.

So So at the end of the movie,

we know he can afford neon, which is no joke.

We kind of forget about Lubick for a second, and this is what happens.

They see him on the throne, now dressed in Aturnia garb, and here we go.

Well, Lubick, look at you!

So you're really gonna stay here, huh?

What are you kidding?

What am I gonna go back there for?

But look what I got here.

I got a castle.

I got a view.

I got clean air.

I got a beautiful woman.

Huh?

Poor excellent.

By the way, got a retirement, huh?

He gets the castle?

Like, that's the other thing, too.

Like,

who's giving everything?

Like, this guy did very little in the grand scheme of things.

He's basically brawn from Game of Thrones.

He's like an assassin who's been given, like, a, you're going to marry that girl.

You're going to get that castle.

Like,

who knows?

You're that guy.

I don't have faith in that relationship.

He's like, I got a girlfriend.

Like, when?

I got a woman.

In this five minutes of after the fight, you got to go.

Why would I go back there?

It's

Small Todd America.

Come on.

I got a castle.

I got a view.

I got a view.

The view seemingly from that castle was terrible.

Yeah.

It was a gross, like, dead landscape.

Fresh air.

By the way, I think something might have been wrong with that guy because there's another scene earlier where he's walking with the rest of his police.

Yeah.

He's trying to convince them that something crazy is happening.

Right.

But I don't understand why he never enlists them, why he doesn't enlist them earlier.

They don't.

Oh, because I think he's a lone wolf.

I think he's like a Serpico.

I think he's just well, he doesn't know what's going on.

First of all, he doesn't know what's going on.

There's just, oh, there's been the fire at the school.

He's investigating an arson.

You know, what they're the custodian has also been attacked.

Oh, the custodian.

What happened?

He goes, I, he's like, I can, he says, I can never tell you.

You could never know.

Yeah, you could never know.

That's not a good tact.

You should be like, yeah, people should know.

Monsters are in the middle.

There are monsters.

And then the cop just went to what's his face?

Kevin's house.

And then they just started kind of having snacks.

Oh, right.

That's Julia's house.

And I found it very odd that she called her own home.

Yeah.

Her own home, which full of Burger King cups, oddly placed Burger King cups.

That is true.

Why does she call her house?

Because her parents are straight up dead.

There's no one there.

And why did he pretend she wasn't alive?

Why did he hide that from the cop?

To what end?

Yeah, like what did that, what was the cop, the cop would have been a little bit more.

That was like a cool thing.

Did you say that he thought that maybe she killed the janitor and lit the place on fire?

That's right.

Like, I mean, well, like, if that's just going to help her escape.

Yeah.

Like, he was like, I don't know why you did it, babe, but I know it was right.

So I'll meet you.

The janitor's

good boyfriend.

He's covering for her.

Like, that's like the beginning of Fargo or something.

Like, he's just covering.

That's so true.

Like, he has no reason to lie about her being alive,

which is his main concern.

Yeah.

He would be like, hooray, you're alive.

Let's tell the cops.

But why does Lubik, Lubik is so suspicious of Kevin immediately, as if Kevin is like

the worst kid in the world.

And there, it just, I mean, really, we're talking about an 18-year-old kid, like a young kid, like not a not an arsonist who's destroyed this.

I mean, and also, he's also run into the crime scene to try to figure out what's going on.

Like, had he done something, I doubt he would be there.

Well, a lot of times, people who commit crimes stick around.

You know what?

You're right to see what they've done.

Yeah, I've seen seven.

That's true.

I just want to talk about

seven.

I do want to talk about this.

The core concept of this movie in general is that that they're after a device that is a key, like essentially a keyboard, a circular keyboard that opens portals.

That's like the whole movie is the confusion of that as a musical instrument versus a powerful tool.

That's the thing.

How is this whole He-Man movie?

Again, we're talking so little about He-Man.

How is this whole He-Man movie about the key, about the

keyboard thing?

And when the little troll uses it, he types on it as if your mind, like the worst extra work in the back, I'm typing tie type

like quick not even looking like

and then when the evil evil Lara like has it or she's like like very gentle like boop boop boop boop everyone uses it differently and it seems and then the other people are playing it Grilledor invented it.

Well, Grillor seems to be the least effect.

He's like,

but he's like, Grildor, yeah, exactly.

Grilledor invented it, but cannot seem to use it.

And doesn't remember the tunes.

But it seems like...

He's investing

a piano, rather, and being like, but I don't know what it does.

She basically says the universe is all music.

That's how they, and so at the end of the movie, to get the wormhole to open, they just kind of hook up a keyboard, and that guy just plays the tune, which Grilledor should know because he fucking created it.

And then the thing opens.

Because he would have had to program it.

And he's like, okay, so this sequence opens that kind of a wormhole.

Totally.

And I guess the thought being that, well, if I don't have those specific 90 keys, I can't program it.

I can only like.

Who knows?

And by the way, Skeletor has one of these keys as well.

Yeah, what?

What?

That's fucking good.

That was crazy.

So there's just fucking

rotten.

This planet is rotten with keys.

Well, yeah, when he came into Earth with the key, I was like, he's got it?

He's got one too?

Why don't they all just jam out?

I mean, like, why don't they just, they might as well just form a band where they're playing these nonsense things.

It's garbage.

So Skeletor at one point goes, if I don't have everything,

I have nothing.

So, is it just that he just wants to be such an exorcist?

It was a beautiful, beautiful line.

I mean, there's, by the way, a lot of poetry in this movie.

Also, the

live the journey because every destination is the door to another adventure.

I thought that that theme, well, here's my pitch for a better ending to this movie.

Because I did actually like the idea of we don't say goodbye, we say good journey.

So, what I thought was going to happen, I did like that idea.

And I did cry, you know, when

there was a lot of crying there was a there was some pretty intense yeah and we all did too i when did you cry uh i cried a little bit when lubick got his cast yeah i was like finally finally

when did you cry

oh oh oh okay but i'll take that that was emotional it was emotional but i actually you were crying through the credits you really got hysterically through the credits but i what i wish had happened i think would have made it a better movie is if she came home waking up in that you know in her nightgaard and came downstairs and they weren't there.

And they were dead, still dead.

And but what she would have come to is that she doesn't have a chance to say goodbye.

I might start crying.

But

what she's now able to say to that is good journey.

Because she knows that in a bigger sense, she will get to see them again on this journey.

That would have been, to me, that's like

a matter of time.

We would have rather that than her flying hurtling through space and time and grabbing them out of an airplane.

Well, no, I thought that was going to happen.

I thought we were headed there, and that's why they were on the plane.

But in place of that, I think also

there's an opportunity for an ending where they're not there.

And she, because she is really struggling with her grief during this movie.

And seeing that mirage of her mom, I mean, I'm very scared of mirages in general.

When I saw that,

I am very scared of mirages

in general, period.

When I saw that, I was like, don't go over there, don't go over there.

And I realized, like, oh, fuck, I'm scared of Mirages.

But

this is, oh,

this movie made you realize.

This was an epiphany for you.

And this is, this movie caused a real realization for you of, I am

scared of Mirages.

Whenever I see it in movies and films and television, how much are you seeing Mirages in?

Not often.

Desert movies are talking about Mirage G.P.

Henson.

What?

I will not go into the mirage in Vegas.

It's terrifying.

Oh, of course not.

Well, there's nothing inside there.

It's all an illusion.

But I do think there would have been a better ending to the movie.

Because that actually, as an idea, we don't say goodbye, we say good journey, was interesting to me.

Sure.

But wasn't because

then at the end, when her parents were there, it was just like, oh, okay, I guess

you get to be with them.

Well, that was the thing is, like, they're saying goodbye on the other planet.

What's it called?

He-man's planet, whatever.

They're saying goodbye.

Grilledor is about to send them through the portal.

And they're like, okay, good journey, good journey.

Everybody's all upset.

Everybody's waving.

Good journey, good journey.

Okay.

And then just as they're about to go through the portal, Courtney Cox is like, oh, wait a minute, Grilledor, can you?

And then zap.

They get zapped through.

So like, what she, I'm assuming she was going to say, will you send me back to before my parents die?

Yeah.

But like, it was almost an afterthought on her part, which I thought was weird.

And then her wish is granted in a weird way.

Well, because Grilldor knows what's up.

Because Grillor's dialed in to

what her journey is.

But see, this is the weird thing about time travel.

Time travel as a concept is not really introduced.

Until that moment.

Until that moment.

Is it?

Is it?

Yes, where Grildor says,

I think they were going later.

I thought they were going laterally.

Yeah, totally.

They're traveling in time.

No, and then Grildor at the end says, I can send you any place in space and time.

By the way, that was

a great Grilldorker.

That was a great Grilldor.

I didn't even know I was going to do it.

Grilledor?

I didn't even know I was in it.

I didn't know I had it in me.

Remake, Jason.

Listen to Grilldor.

Call me, call me, owners of the franchise Masters of Gary Goddess.

By the way,

there was a sequel written that was never shut.

Oh, really?

Yeah, this movie also shut down three days before it was supposed to end production.

So that's why maybe some of the plot holes are not all game.

I have Jimi Hendrix.

They played Jimi Jimi Hendrix in this movie.

What?

Really?

What do you mean?

In Charlie's music store,

Hendrix is playing.

Whoa,

and they have the song Living in a Box.

I'm a living in a box.

I'm a living in a cardboard box.

I'm a living in a box.

Remember that song?

Terrible, terrible.

What is that song?

What's that?

You guys are all too young.

It's like a terrible song.

It's all called I'm Living in a Box.

I'm Livin' in a Box.

It's a terrible song.

It was like the equivalent of like, you remember Walk the Dinosaur?

Yeah.

The Was Not Was.

I feel like it was like a that it was like a that kind of a song, but maybe 10 years earlier.

What is the song about?

A living in a box, living in a cardboard box.

Maybe it's about a homeless person.

I don't know.

Gross gross people.

Gross people

can't afford planes.

Exactly.

Oh my gosh.

That song was planned and I was like, oh my god, remember this song?

But that made me think like they must have spent money because that song was a hit.

They must have spent money buying.

You know, there's actually a great documentary about all these films that Brett Ratner produced.

I just, it's called like, it basically, it's Masters of the Universe.

It's a Superman 4, the quest for peace, the Golden or Globus, whatever these guys are.

They just made these insane movies.

And it was just like these, it's a great documentary.

I think it's coming out in a week now on like digital, but it's like the history of this studio that was just like, Fuck it.

Like, well, there's like they just everything, because this is a movie written by someone who's like, yeah, yeah, we got that name.

All right.

It has nothing to do with it.

It's like just white guys in a room going, yeah, yeah, and kids, and the kids are like, that their kids in there, and he-man, forget it all.

Like, there's nothing to tie the kids who love the comic.

And this happens all the time, like Mario Brothers or Super Mario.

It's like, oh, yeah, let's not take it.

Get him out of there.

Put him in the world.

It's like, it makes no sense.

I want to just play just for

this two clips that I love.

This is just Dolph and the chemistry that he has with Courtney Cox.

This is

kind of catching

the phonetical, the phonetic English that's going to happen.

Dolph Lagernan appears to exist separate from everybody else in the movie.

Everybody else

has relationships with each other.

They had to set up a Courtney Cox, the mustachio and his daughter, and his perhaps daughter.

Everybody's teamed up.

Dolph Lungren just is like floating in the ether almost.

Here's Dolphin in his English.

It's all right.

It's all right.

Don't be afraid.

I won't hurt you.

Now, what are you running from?

That's all.

Running from these

Fontic.

Courtney Cox

is adorable in this movie.

She's got to do a lot.

By the way, like, that I think is a tough role to pull off.

And I'm sure it's like one of her earliest roles, too.

She's got to go from like,

she's got a...

She's got death in the family.

She's running from aliens.

She's fighting.

She's, you know, like, she's got to let her go.

I really, I loved her in this movie.

I thought it was great.

I was very on board for Courtney Cox and the kid who plays Kevin.

I thought.

I thought he was great.

I thought it was really interesting because they were basically

those kids that were basically in an 80s teen movie.

And everybody else is in some fucking

weird nonsense.

Well, that's like the kind of the fun world of it.

It's like they're like, we got this teen movie and we'll just throw in this other thing.

It's kind of like this weird mashup.

Well, obviously, we had opinions about this movie.

There are other people out there that had a different opinion.

It is now time for second opinions.

Second opinions

from top to bottom.

Crazy.

Let me retire this one.

This is like

seizure induce.

We can pull it out.

We got angles for everyone.

We gotta take the Amazon.

Blood is gonna come out of my ears and nose.

There's just so much going on.

It's like a cacophony of nonsense.

I will say when I scour Amazon for these second opinions, it's easy to pull some out.

This was hard.

There were like 500 five-star reviews in this movie.

Yeah.

A lot of love for Masters.

But here's the...

Is that what we're calling it now?

Masters?

Yeah, for Masters.

A lot of love for Masters.

A lot of love for Masters.

Is that just what we're doing?

We're going to be okay with this.

Masters.

A lot of love for Masters.

Oh, what'd you guys do on the show this week, Masters?

Masters.

Total.

Classic, Rob.

This is from Marissa, and it is the title of it is Dot, Dot, Dot, Awesome Gift from My Mom.

And here it goes.

Awesome gift from my mom.

She loves this movie.

I'm glad it's available on DVD.

Five stars.

The mom loves it.

Mom loves it.

Awesome gift from my mom.

So that's if everyone wants to give their mom a gift that keeps on giving.

Okay, here we go.

This is,

okay,

this is by plebes.

I always thought that little dwarf snagged the bucket of chicken.

I know five stars should be reserved for the unblemished, and I'm aware that they stole embarrassingly from Star Wars, and that there's a villain sporting a white shawl, not to mention all the big dog critics who snubbed their noses.

But I think this film is one of the best superhero question mark, fantasy question mark movies out there.

And when Evil Lynn wanted to break the promise and Skeletor wouldn't let her, genius, pure genius, five stars.

This is like almost, that is

unedited, just train of thought.

So, oh, and just to make sure, because I did want to mention it earlier, Skeletor's sidekick is a woman named, not Evelyn, not Evelyn, Evil Lynn.

I don't know why that article or that interview, that review starts off with, I always thought the little dwarf snagged a bucket of tea.

Yeah.

He obviously does.

That's always like a point of contention.

No debate.

No debate when he did.

Finally, this release settles it.

Finally, they attack in the movie.

It's basically like, did Greedo shoot first?

Yeah.

Okay, this is from E.M.

Woodfill, Eileen Woodfill, written in 1999.

I think this is the best movie I've seen in science fiction.

I mean, this movie is exciting.

I don't get the part that the bad guys needed the key if they already had the key.

And that part doesn't make sense to me.

But she wrote, that part doesn't make sense to me.

My favorite part is when Courtney Cox as Julie.

By the way, of course as Julie.

Like, yeah, that's the only character she plays.

My favorite part is when Courtney Cole is...

Well, no, I gotta finish.

My favorite part is when Courtney Cox as Julie gets hit by Skeletor poison.

One more part where Skeletor and He-Man had their battle at the end.

That's That's the review.

So her two favorite parts is when Courtney Cox's Julie gets hit by Skeletor poison, and one more part where Skeletor and He-Man had their battle.

The only way

is if

at the very end that person was like, I am five years old.

You know what I mean?

Like,

if an adult wrote that sham.

Oh, man.

This is a movie to me.

I know I've talked about these types of movies before where I would just, as a child, you'd watch a movie that was on TV because you want to watch a movie.

Yeah, on TV.

You want want to watch a movie on TV.

So I would find myself watching a movie like this and it would be great because it was just simply

something to watch.

Simply a movie.

And so therefore it was great.

I guess in regards of something to watch, it really was.

There's a lot of things that fall into that category for me that are like movies that in my mind I still think are awesome because they were on on like a Sunday afternoon on Channel 56 and I was like, fuck yeah.

I remember seeing Mixed Nuts with Steve Martin.

It still remains one of my favorite movies because I saw it as a child and was one of the only VHS tapes we had.

And so I watched it over and over and over again because I was just so excited that it was a movie that I could see.

Yeah, I remember

the first kid in our neighborhood, in my town, I feel like, but no, not in my area, to get a VCR only had two tapes and they were Greece.

Great.

Everybody had a Greece in VHS.

Why is that?

I think VHS and Greece were the same team.

They are the same team.

VHS was created for VHS.

Came about.

Exactly.

A huge step in technology.

Travolto is like, hey, you know, I got an idea.

What if we...

No, I think they just came to market at the same time, and so Grease profited from that.

The other one, though, was the Burt Reynolds movie, Hooper.

Oh, yeah.

What's that?

Where he jumped.

It's a car jumping movie.

It's like all he does is jump cars off of bridges.

It's nonsense.

It's a stuntman written directed movie.

It's awesome.

I think it's awesome, but it might be tough.

I know.

The movie I watched as a kid all the time was

Not Brewster's Millions, The Toy.

The Toy, yeah.

The Toy was one I watched all the time.

That's a very weird movie.

Yeah.

I also watched Grease, Grease, too, always on VHS, Mixed Nuts, and Regarding Henry.

Oh, wow.

Which we happen to have on VHS.

J.J.

Abrams' first script?

Yeah.

I was turtle too.

Turtles 2.

That was yours.

Yeah.

Really?

Like, I can't tell you how many times I've seen that movie.

Is he?

Yeah, this is how this connection has happened.

I remember now.

Quote, like, the impact sounds of

What?

Like, I'm so, I know it so well.

I would love it if, just to, like, be watching it with you and for you to be not only reciting all the dialogue word for word, but then being like,

no,

I've sat down and watched it with my boyfriend, and he's like, shut up.

Because I kind of want him to know that I know all these sounds, but at the same time, it's the most irritating thing that I've done.

I remember.

I used to record movies on cassette tape and then listen to them in a headset.

So I would memorize movies and they're all.

I know.

Beverly Hills Cop I can pretty much do Vermont I should do one man show Beverly Hills Copyright Let's Do like

one screens like that

I would love that to the action.

You should do a show in which you get you two and a couple of more people and you have to, whoever, it's a competition show, who can go the longest perfectly reciting dialogue marketing.

I don't know how to do that.

I'm gonna do Anna Green Gables.

Really?

Really?

Yes.

Anna Green Gables and Adian Fables.

Of course.

With Ring and Follows.

Yeah.

Anna Green Gables and Anna Bavin Lee.

I could do the entire film.

Really?

Oh, didn't Andrew just die?

Oh, no.

Don't.

Don't ever.

The actor replaces Gilbert.

Oh, Gilbert.

Sorry.

Yes.

Sorry.

Yeah, that's a better spot.

I just wanted to say that.

My apologies.

My condolences.

I did do a little

research.

That documentary I was talking about.

It's called Electric Boogaloo, The Wild Untold Story of Canon Films.

And they are behind movies like Deathwish, American ninja delta force over the top masters of the universe superman 4 like and a movie called the happy hooker they basically

electric boogaloo but not break into electric boogaloo maybe it is i'm just looking really quickly here so um that's what i got there um that sounds awesome well it has been amazing to get us all together to talk about this this film and um before we get to plugs i just want to i want to play frank frank langella just to give us a little taste of his power and we'll we'll wrap up because he is great He is honest to God, great in this movie.

And I feel like.

He's like,

but I also feel like he was like, oh, they don't know what they're doing.

So I'll just do four monologues and they'll all be pretty good.

Like they're a fun.

It's pretty engaging.

Like, I did find myself watching Skeletor and

for a man behind a mask, like a full mask where you're not seeing eyes or anything.

No, you're seeing eyes.

I mean, but like very small.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're not seeing it.

There's very hard level of movement.

There's no nothing.

It is mask work.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

He's doing some Mempro.

Fine mask work.

Here we go.

Of what consequence are you now?

This planet, these people, they are nothing to me.

The universe is power,

beautiful, unstoppable power.

And I am that force.

I am that power.

Kneel before your master.

I

love you.

You are no longer my hero.

I love when you have a good actor in a movie like this, and he's like, fuck it, I'll act the shit out of this.

Rich, can I get one more take?

I just want to pause more between those final words.

All right, so that brings us to the end of the episode.

Somebody did write a detailed description of what the movie is, but it makes no sense.

Okay.

So, get to it.

Listening to movies on tape.

Oh, yeah.

Oh my God.

Like while you're mowing the lawn.

Running scared and Beverly Hillscape.

And just like putting movies on tape.

Oh, I just put a little.

Yeah.

Do you just picture, do you imagine what, like, do you remember the scenes and like, yeah, I guess like to me, it was a sort of like, oh, how could I, like, how could I watch this movie like on the school bus?

Like, and I just would put my little recorder in front of my TV and just record them.

And you can get it.

You know, it was was like just dialogue.

I'm amazed.

I think that's a great idea.

It's so great.

And just being on the bus.

And I remember being embarrassed because of this girl that was sitting next to me.

And I was like, what are you listening to?

And she's like, Pink Floyd.

And she's like, what are you listening to?

I'm like, running scared, a movie with Billy Crystal and Gregory.

I remember I was a dialogue.

Listening to a movie?

Yeah.

Hey, guys.

Paul Scheer's listening to a movie on his Walkman.

I just felt so.

That was also in a period of my life where the only music I listened to were movie soundtracks.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

So I had only movie soundtracks.

I was like listening to like Tom, what was it, Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd doing the rap from the Dragnet movie.

Oh my god.

Like terrible, terrible songs.

And because it was all like, you know, man-sized love from a band called Climax.

I know all this.

I know so many movie soundtracks.

Like, yeah, it's amazing.

Back to the Future soundtrack on all the time.

Oh, my God.

Well, what do you have to plug?

Would you like to plug anything?

I don't know if I have anything to plug.

You can follow you on Twitter.

Follow me on Twitter.

Yeah.

I think at Tatiana Massani.

Yeah.

All right.

That's all I got.

Nothing.

What do you want to plug?

Well, you can.

I'm on Twitter at Ms.MS June Diane, and you can still check out Grayson Frankie, which is streaming on Netflix.

Jason.

I made a movie called Sleeping With Other People that's out right now.

Depending on where you live and depending on when this episode comes out, please go see that.

Jason Sudeikis, Allie Bree, me.

I don't know her as Allison Bree.

Allison Bree.

My special with Rob People, Crash Test, just came out on iTunes for $3.99 with a bunch of people you love.

Aziz, Rob Cordry, Aubrey Plaza, and Jason and I, and June, are all in the league this season, which is airing right now on FXX.

And we'll get it out.

We'll put it out there.

Tatiana's going to be

this season of the league, too.

Yeah, great.

Yeah.

Or some black league crossover.

Crossover.

Let's do it.

I'm doing a major Frank Langella monologue.

Lost pausing.

If you have an issue with this episode, you want to give us a correction and omission, you can do that at theearwolf.com message boards.

So follow us on Twitter at HDTGM.

And a big thank you to Nate Kylie doing our research, Avril Halley pulling all of our clips, our engineer Ryan, everybody here at Earwolf July Diaz.

Oh, the whole crew,

everybody.

We love you all.

Thank you so much.

We'll see you next time on the mini episode.

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