Last Looks: Jack's Back w/ Tom Scharpling

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Last Looks, hit the theme.

I took a look.

My name was Paul,

and I did not like what I saw.

But you know, we gotta look again.

Last looks, last looks.

Hello, all you twins with psychic connections.

It's me, Paul the Ripper.

And welcome to How Did This Get Made?

Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Jack's Back, a movie that Discord user AFED thinks should have instead been called A Tale of Two Spaders.

Okay, I like it.

Thank you, AFED, for that movie title.

Wouldn't it be great if they just started completely disregarding character names and specifics for the titles of films and just started calling them by the actors that were in them, like, you know, Denzel Train movie?

First of all, don't know why I'm referencing Unstoppable.

I think that movie came out like 15 years ago.

But

maybe it would bring more ants to the cinema.

Speaking of which,

do you think people were upset this week when they saw like the Mandalorian and Groguru trailer?

And then I think for a large grouping of people, they may have been confused.

They may have been like, Grogu, who's that?

You know, shouldn't it be like Mandalorian and Baby Yoda?

And that's what I'm getting at, people.

Let's dumb it down more, okay?

It's not enough.

It's not enough that people are considering putting television shows on TikTok in 90-second intervals.

They're called microdramas.

By the way, have you watched a microdrama?

These things are nuts.

It's like the drama of 80s late night TV, like Dynasty and Falcon Crest, mixed with like the acting of

porn back when porn cared.

Um, all right, a big shout out to Judy Ford.

Wow, we're still in the opening for that opening theme song.

Thank you, Judy.

Remember, if you have an alt movie title or tagline, submit it to us on our Discord at discord.gg/slash HDTGM.

And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to HDTGM and click the submit a song button on our homepage.

And remember, keep them short.

If you're listening to the show, you know what you like.

15, 20 seconds.

That's what we want.

Okay.

Big show today.

Tom Sharpling, host of The Best Show, will be joining us in just a bit.

If you don't know Tom, you might remember him from our Avengers episode.

But if you're not listening to The Best Show, what are you doing?

25 years on the air.

We're going to talk to him about his Grown-Ups 3 script, which he wrote on spec.

over a weekend that got a lot of buzz online.

And he's going to tell us how it

got to a lot of the members of the cast.

We also are going to talk about the best show tour.

Also,

I guess this is a great time to mention how did this get made is going on the road.

We're going to be in New York and we're going to be in Philadelphia, but that's not all.

Dinosaur is going on the road, and we have a great cast, okay?

Edie Patterson from The Righteous Gemstones.

You got Danielle Schneider from Garbage World.

Oh, yeah.

You also also have Mary Holland, who is amazing in everything that she does, recently on Ghosts.

Me, Jason, Rob Hubel, Rob Wriggle is joining us in D.C.

So come see Dinosaur in Boston, D.C.,

and by the time this recording, maybe even New York.

Just check out hdtgm.com for our tour info or go to dinosaur improv or go to my website.

There's plenty of places for you to get the links for the tickets for these shows that are happening in November.

And if you just want to come see us in Los Angeles, you can do that too, because we have shows October 22nd and 23rd at Largo and a dinosaur show on the 24th.

Boy, oh boy, I love

doing live shows.

Just kind of want to continue giving some love to Avril Halley, who is recovering from brain cancer.

Avril is one of our,

you know,

support beams of this show.

And I am just constantly blown away by the amount of love that people have been sending her way, whether it's an email by emailing her partner Andrew at moviebitches.xyz or by snail mail.

People have been sending wonderful things to her at P.O.

Box641 Agora Hills, California, 91376.

She appreciates it.

And we have been getting some really amazing updates.

She is on the mend and recovering, and so we just want to continue to send her love.

All right, let's get into it.

Last week, we talked at length about Jack's back.

Well, we had questions, and we might have even missed a few things.

Here is your chance to set us straight.

Fact-check us, if you will.

It is now time for corrections and omissions.

Hit the damn theme.

Corrections and omissions

are not what words you want to hear from us.

Don't disconnect the discord

to elude a countability.

Then,

how

could your fans express just how we feel?

Your dumb words are all you had to say to be so wrong.

Now Paul has to eat some shit

and say we're right.

But we

all

ready.

No.

Thank you, Benjamin Helton, for that theme song.

I loved Extreme.

Extreme, well, I don't know if I love them.

I liked them.

Was Extreme the band that had like the two trains crashing crashing out of the station?

Was that the cover of the album?

I think.

I don't know.

Why am I asking you?

You can't answer, and I'm not going to Google it.

So if I'm wrong, please send me a written letter.

I will open it in a couple of weeks, and I will look at it with shame or delight.

All right, on the Discord, Ghostbag, great name, says this.

Is the reason for the constant haze in this film due to everyone in it smoking?

Cigarettes are constant from Sydney smoking in the doctor's office to,

by the way,

I'm really going out of sides.

I just saw Jaws, the 50th anniversary of Jaws.

There's some smoking in the ER in that movie as well.

Wild.

The amount of cigarettes, I would say, yeah, Jaws is a problem, but secondhand smoke is really, really the issue in that movie.

Okay, so they say, yes, Sydney was smoking the doctor's office to the customer that Darkspader assists in the mall shoe store.

I was 13 in 1988 and I lived in California, so I do remember people smoking in public places, but never inside medical facilities and stores.

Weird times.

Well, yeah, look,

if it was in JAWS, I'm going to believe that people were smoking in ERs.

Man, hell, people are smoking on planes.

I mean, if you look on most planes, they still have that ashtray thing there as if it might come back.

And who knows?

The way things are going lately, you know, one day someone could be like, yay, you know what?

We actually figured out smoking in an airplane is good for your lungs.

Actually, you should smoke in an airplane now.

And we'll do it.

And it will just be back and people will be upset about it, but we'll just have to embrace it.

Megan writes, Second Soul is actually a shoe store that I go to in Akron, Ohio.

It is indeed a running shoe store, and it's distinct from the chain of other running shoe stores in Northeast Ohio, also named Second Soul.

The chain of stores predates this in the movie, which makes me wonder if Rowdy Harrington was driving through

Ohio one day and decided to put it in the movie.

Well, Megan, if you're telling me that there are two chains of stores called Second Soul in Ohio, I just feel like it's people being really lazy about naming their shoe store.

Like, and by the way, Second Soul means, is it just a shoe store for shoes that you're not wearing on the reg?

Anyway, I love it.

Dove rights, as Paul discussed.

Oh, I love when it's about me.

Paul discussed the original plan was to call the movie Red Rain, but they couldn't get the rights to Peter Gabriel's song of the same name to run over the opening titles.

So Harrington scrapped this idea and had a sound-alike song made.

The new song was Red Harvest, but he didn't call the movie by that name.

He went with Jack's back instead.

Why?

Because if they'd gone with Red Harvest, they would have been using the title of a famous Dashel Hammett novel to make a completely unrelated movie.

Hammett's Red Harvest did inspire Kurosawa's Yojimbo, which in turn inspired Sier Giulioni's A Fist Full of Dollars, and the Bruce Willis movie, Last Man Standing.

Good movie, if I remember it correctly.

Remember when we made a lot of Westerns?

Like there was a time, like in that early 90s, like The Quick and the Dead, Tombstone, Wyatt Earp, Last Man Standing.

And there was that other one.

There's another one in that mix, too, that was kind of popular.

Yeah, we really got...

Bring them back.

We haven't made a Western in a long time.

Somebody, go make that.

Maybe I will.

Anyway, let's go to the phones.

What do we got?

First one up is, oh, my favorite caller, Anonymous.

Hey, Paul, longtime fan.

Love you guys.

Love your show.

Love the league.

I'm a longtime Cubs fan, and you seem to wonder why there was a Cubs reference in your latest review of Jacksback.

And that's because from, I think it was from like 1921 to 1951, the Cubs did their spring training on Catalina Island.

And

Wrigley,

a senior, he bought the PCL Angels and constructed essentially another Wrigley field.

in LA.

So

you can search it and find it and all that good stuff.

So I hope that that answers your question as to why there's a Cubs tag and why there's a Cubs link to LA.

Anyway, love the show.

Love you guys.

June is great in weapons, and I look forward to seeing whatever you guys do next.

Talk to you later.

Wow.

First of all, great, great observation.

I don't think it was that specific.

I think

the path of least resistance is that

he could have been born in Chicago.

I guess was it established where they were born?

I don't know.

I don't think anyone is a fan of a team that does spring training on Catalina Island.

I mean, I know that the Dallas Cowboys practice in Oxnard.

I'm not seeing a lot of Cowboy fans out here.

Anyway, I love that deep research.

Thank you, Anonymous.

Next up, Peter from New York.

Hey, how's it going, Maid?

Love the show.

Just wanted to do one small correction.

I was watching Jack Spack with my wife, and during the film and after the film, she and I discussed multiple times how odd it was that in the 80s, the rooted up foosball man

was doing these back alley abortions because abortion in the 80s in California was definitely legal.

And the sex worker did not need to pay $200 for an abortion in a hotel room because she could have just gone to Plant and Parenthood, which was, I'm pretty certain, still in operation.

So that makes almost no sense maybe less sense or maybe just as much just as little sense as the noose being ready in the weird church auditorium in the hospital anyway i love the show can't wait to you guys come to new york have a good one wow good question well uh peter dove from our discord actually had the same question as you and rewound the movie to find out an answer you see dove says that sydney aka dr shouty mcasshole shouted at the sex worker at the clinic and said she was two weeks past the legal limit.

So that's why she had to rely on Jack for the abortion, although she didn't appear to be that pregnant in the scene.

So

she would have to be 24 weeks pregnant.

I would imagine you are showing at 24 weeks.

So

again,

let's get into it.

I need to know more about the abortion laws in California and especially the abortion laws back then.

But you know what?

I feel like we have gone so deep on this and I'm so impressed.

I don't think we can top it.

So maybe we just switch up the segment right now and go to a quick Ask Paul.

That's right.

A chance for you to ask me an unrelated question to Jack Spack.

So Mel, what's on your mind?

Hey, Paul, how are you doing?

I just had a couple quick questions for you.

Number one, I've noticed throughout the years that you and June have very distinct laughs, but they seem to mimic each other.

Yours seems to be more like when you're laughing really hard, it's like,

and June's is more like,

so I'm just curious, who adopted whose laugh pattern?

Did you start it when you first met?

Did she start it when it first met?

You know, it's almost like when you adopt a pet and you start to look alike.

One of you is copying the other.

So I'm just curious, who is the origin source?

The second question is, I'm a huge fan of Shark Tank.

I'm also a huge fan of The Prophet.

I know you're a fan of The Prophet as well.

And now there's a new market show called The Fixer.

And I'm watching it now on YouTube.

You can find all the episodes for free, easy peasy.

It's a little bit different, but I'm just curious, what are your general thoughts on The Fixer?

Again, thanks so much for doing the podcast.

I've been to your live show many times and huge fan, brother.

Take care.

Interesting.

I've never noticed that.

Maybe we do.

That's very cute.

I love June's laugh.

Well, okay.

Well, I'm now going to pay attention to it.

I'm not going to tell June.

I'm going to do a little research on my own.

I have not watched the new Marcus Limona show, The Fixer.

I love Marcus.

We were going to have Marcus on the show at one point

because we were just huge fans.

I should, I should watch it.

I don't have, I wish I had a better answer.

No, the answer is no, I have not watched it.

And I was thinking, why haven't haven't I watched it?

And I was like, well, I really don't even watch TV anymore.

So I'd really have to go out of my way to find it.

I had no idea that it was called The Fixer.

And is it different than like Bar Rescue?

Or is it like the same thing as Bar Rescue?

Either way, you have now gotten me very excited to watch a brand new show.

Now can I convince my wife with the same laugh to put aside Task, a show that we are.

really getting through at a slow pace because for June and I to watch a show together, she'll normally fall asleep during an hour-long episode.

So it takes us, I would say, three days to get through a 45-minute to 60-minute show.

We very rarely watch shows together.

We have decided that task is the one.

And I have watched the first episode now,

wow, four times.

Got better and better.

I did.

I went from being like, I'm okay with this show to, I actually, I think I like it.

Now I'm in.

I do like the show.

And that is someone who has watched episode one a handful of times and is on the third viewing of episode two.

All right.

Back to the Discord.

Rocket Wesker writes, when they said Darkspader was an Army medic, I thought the movie was going to make him utilize his medical skill in some way, like impersonating his brother at the clinic or using medical knowledge to analyze the evidence in crime scene.

But no, it's just used to make police think that he's a suspect and his medical skill was never brought up again.

He used past gangster skills and shoe salesman skills to solve the case, but Army medic, not so much.

Thank you, Rocket Wesker.

Good call there.

Dang Tootin.

Regarding Paul and Jason's reminiscence of the 1980s, doll, my buddy, I have a great story to share.

For the first years of my life, my parents always referred to my penis as a buddy for some reason.

Okay, sounds like a Paul story.

And now they might be, you know,

like, hey, you're holding your buddy.

Do you have to pee?

Naturally, I assume that a penis is called a buddy.

So you can imagine my eight-year-old shock when I first saw the commercial for a doll called my buddy.

The next day at school, I went up to my friends and said, have you guys seen that commercial for my buddy?

I can't believe that.

And they were like,

what's the issue?

And I was like, the toy is named after a penis.

And everyone was like, What the hell are you talking about?

And that's when I started to question the validity of buddy buddy being a euphemism for penis.

And I saw my parents in a different light.

Ha ha.

Dang Tootin, great story, great share, very Paul sheer-coated, and I appreciate that.

And that's going to really weigh in today as I take

stock of who had the best correction and omission.

And I got to tell you, you know what?

It is going to be Dang Tootin because never in the history of this show has someone shared their own Paul story.

Yeah, people have come out of the woodwork to say that they, you know, kissed their mom and they want to support me in that, but no one ever put it in a corrections and omissions.

So, Dang Tootin, you are our winner.

And Rob from Long Island's got a great theme.

Hit it.

Hey, you, congratulations.

You won a nice vacation and an in-ground pool and a car.

But we gave it away to a charity because we all know just how selfless a person you are.

But we don't want to send you away empty-handed.

That's not what this all is about.

So, here, take the garbage with you as you leave.

And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

You win!

All right, stick around because when we are back, we got Tom Sharpling and some other really fun surprises.

Remember, if you want to leave a message about the movie that we're talking about, not like an old movie, just keep it, you know, current, you can go to our Discord and you can always give me a call, ask me a question about life, Marcus Lamonis, or leave a correction and omission about the movie that we talked to at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K.

That's 619-Paul Ask.

And by the way, I want to ask you a question.

Are you watching the dark web every Monday?

Rob Hubel and I take on the internet.

That's right.

And we have some special shows coming up.

We've broken format and

oh man, I can't even tease it until we get there, but it's going to be, it's one of my favorite things that we've done.

I can't wait.

Hopefully, it comes out good.

It's a big swing.

Anyway, we'll be right back.

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He has arisen.

Tim Allen and Kat Dennings return in television's number one new comedy.

What what?

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hey, buddy!

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Welcome.

Oh, boy.

That guy's a tool.

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All right, because every week we put up an old episode.

This week we did Deadfall, which was a Nicholas Cage film, right?

One of the most unhinged performances from him.

And next week, we are going to be talking about the Mariah Carey flop glitter with Adam Scott, Casey Wilson, and Dan Levy.

So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday.

Okay, but now enough about all that.

Let's have a chat.

A chat with somebody that I think is

truly an inventor of the podcast game.

And I feel bad calling it a podcast because Tom Sharpling has been doing the best show for 25 years.

Started off as a radio show on WFMU.

He is a writer who has worked on on such varied shows as What We Do in Shadows and Monk.

He has a brand new show coming out with Matt Berry from What We Do in Shadows and Natasha Leon.

We're going to talk about that in just a bit.

But more importantly, he is going to be taking best show on the road to celebrate this giant anniversary.

So without any further ado, please welcome to the show the one, the only, the great Tom Sharpling.

For the last 25 years, this man

has been running

truly

a pioneering show.

I'm not even going to call it a podcast because it didn't even start as a podcast.

I started a radio show.

This is entertainment.

It is every Tuesday.

It's live.

It's great.

Tom Sharpling, happy 25 years of the best show.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

That's too much.

I can't.

I did something wrong, clearly.

I mean, this is the thing about you, Tom, and this show.

You're a radio man.

You're just, you're a radio man.

Yeah, I'm just an old

DJ sitting in the like Wolfman Jack in American graffiti.

Yes.

Ooh, in the dark.

Tom,

just because I feel like the show is such a phenomenal meld of whatever you're interested in doing in that moment and talking through bits or talking through bands.

Like, what were like, what did you, what did you listen to?

Like, was there stuff that you were, were you someone who was like, oh, I am like listening to phil hendry or i am listening to um

uh you know or is it like a just a regular it's howard stern or it's like terrestrial radio or whatever yeah it was a lot of different things it was um i didn't listen to phil hendry that was a west coast thing and i was new jersey and then when i heard about phil hendry I was like, strangely enough, I was like, I don't want to hear it because I feel like it would be too much of an influence.

I've kind of never heard Phil Hendry to this day.

How about Joe Frank?

Joe Frank.

I heard plenty of Joe Frank on WFMU because they aired Joe Frank on WFM.

That's how I used to listen to it.

That's, you know,

it was incredible.

And Joe Frank was, was about

what you could do with audio to me in terms of like he was doing a completely different thing that I would never even be able to do.

But I knew it was like, oh, this guy's taking full advantage of the medium.

And that was the exciting part of that.

And for people who've never heard the show, I just want to give them an idea of what they're in store for every episode, or at least the idea.

Like you're going to come in with a topic, whatever that topic might be.

You're going to introduce a topic.

You're going to be talking to people.

And then somewhere in the middle of the show, you're going to get a phone call.

from an interesting character, somebody who might, you think, oh, well, this person, this is calling in.

A lot of them have hailed from Newbridge, New Jersey.

And you'll interact with this character.

And this is like the centerpiece of the show where it's like when I first started to listen to you, I was on these CDs.

I had these CDs, the best of these phone calls.

It's you and John Worcester,

who you might know as the, used to be the drummer for Super Chunk.

And these are some of the funniest big sketches.

They remind me of Nichols and May.

They remind me of, you know, interview with the, you know, was it 1,000-year-old man or 2,000-2,000-year-old man?

Yeah, 2,000-year-old man.

You know, like it has that vibe where it's like these long 30, 30, 40-minute bits that they start off in one direction and then they just morph and you're just in this zone and these characters come back.

It's so much fun to listen to.

And opposed to many other shows and even Phil Hendry himself.

It's just you and John.

So it really is this duo.

It's, it really, you know, it's not like, oh, and next week you have in so-and-so and they're doing a funny call.

I think that that's one of the things that makes the show kind of so fun and unique, too.

Oh, well, thank you.

That's, yeah, no, John and I hit on something early, and other like there were stretches where other people called in and would do funny stuff.

Um, like John Benjamin would do stuff, uh, Sam Seder and John Glazer, and Andy Earls.

And, but then there was a point where I was just like,

the thing that me and John are doing is the thing, and I kind of need to just focus on that being the thing.

And doing that was

just kind of validated the the thing that me and John have.

And then we were just partners forever.

It's so fun.

Just listen to it.

Listen to

a best show.

25 years.

You're going on the road.

I'm very excited about it.

We're going to do the Bell House and New York and LA and Chicago and Philadelphia.

It'll be super fun.

Cause we don't, we're, John lives in North Carolina and I used to live in New Jersey and I lived in, now I'm in Los Angeles.

So we've never done the show from the same place outside of like a very small window where John lived in New York, but we're not together for the most part.

And this will be us being together.

So it's pretty, pretty.

That's very, so it's really unique.

Yeah, that's cool.

I would love to see that.

That's great.

These shows are 10-11, 10-12, 10-13, 10-15, and 10-21.

That's Brooklyn, Philly, LA, and Chicago.

Now, I do, I want to go in a different direction just for a second.

For people who don't know, not only are you this

showman, but you also are a great writer.

You've written many television episodes.

You've created shows.

But the thing I think about a lot, and I was referencing it just the other day, was you wrote a script for Grown Ups 3

on spec.

Just you embraced the universe

and got a Grown Ups 3 spec out there, which I have to say,

it was one of those bits.

I mean, is it a bit?

I mean, I don't know.

Is it a bit?

I don't, you you know, it, it could work.

It could work.

This grown-up story could work.

I was going through a thing at a point.

And, you know, it came down to ultimately was, you know, when you make a joke with a friend, and then you're just like, oh, what if this existed?

Can you imagine that?

And you joke about it and you laugh.

And then there's always that moment where you're just like, what if I actually did?

write that and you then you're like no i'm not gonna actually do that

but then i was like yeah i'm kind of

got some free time right now, and I'm enjoying being by myself.

Like, I guess it was not a great stretch.

So, I just spent a weekend and I wrote it over a weekend.

I wrote like this 55-page script in like two days.

It just poured out.

And then it was Jason, Jason Wallner, who was the person I was joking about it with.

And then I was like, hey, Jason, I wrote that script.

And then

and I sent it to him.

And he was like, well, this is insane.

Oh my god, and then I started sending it around,

and then people are like, It turned into like this weird Rorschach test with Adam Sandler.

Some people were just like, read it, and then they go, Oh my God, I hate Adam Sandler so much, and I can tell how much you hate him because of this script.

And other people are like, man, I love those movies too.

And I can just see, there's so much love for what he does in here.

Like, people saw what they wanted to see in it.

It was really fascinating.

Well, Well, I think that you captured a tone that is like, and I guess either way that you look at it, have you, have you like I go to the map for Hubie Halloween.

I think it really made me laugh.

It's a very funny movie.

And people get mad at me for saying that, but I am not taking it back.

Well, they should not get, Paul, they got to cut you some slack with this.

You know what you're talking about.

It's a fun movie.

Fun.

It's fun.

I will not.

I will not stand here and let you guys promote Hubie Halloween one more second because we all know

Hubble it should be Hubble

by the way we're not just referencing something you cannot read

the yeah if you go to the the best best show for life website you can read grown-ups three it's uh following around yeah it yeah it was one of those things where like it started to like

make it make the rounds a little bit yeah and then people who were in it some people read it who are in it that's what i was gonna wonder next.

Yeah.

I know Nick Swartzden read it.

He was just like, this is funny.

He's like, there's a funny script floating around grown-ups three.

And then David Spade, I heard, read it and thought it was funny.

But then there was the point when talking to Adam McKay and he's just like,

should I send it to Sandler?

And then I was like, oh, I don't know about that.

I don't know.

And then

it made it to Adam Sandler through another channel through

more, like through the Safdie channel that I have.

Sure.

And more or less, I think it might have, it might have, it might, I don't know how it got there, but I know that someone in that camp heard him at one point go, what's the deal with this Grown Up Street thing?

Like, like, and quite a bit of your Grown Ups 3 script ended up in Uncut Gems, right?

Pretty much.

I'm right now arbitrating with the Writers Guild about, no, it was.

Oh, they've got our best interest.

Yeah.

It didn't.

Of course they do no we we're heading back out guys to get your signs i've got a few quips ready and

i'm ready to start walking on the

on the new the new picket line oh my god when i walked

i was i walked the picket line over by warner no no by universal by universal and it was like

first of all I'm watching everybody.

Oh, Jay Leno pulled up and had hot dogs or whatever.

And oh, here's so many, all these famous people.

I walked that Universal picket line.

First of all, I was almost got hit by a car every day.

It's directly off the 101.

People are pulling off that Lancashire ramp as if they're still on the highway.

Didn't they cut back the trees there too, so you guys would have no shade?

I think that was the Warner Brothers one where they cut the trees.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

But this one, they didn't have to do anything to make this any worse.

This was just bad.

You know, when you go past Universal Studios and there's that giant hill that goes up, and like if you're going to drive to the

city walk or whatever, it's like that's where we were picketing.

I was there so many times.

The only

star power I ever saw at it was one Sklar brother.

And you couldn't tell which one.

It was Jason.

I could tell.

Thankfully, I could tell.

I could tell which one.

Because he was wearing glasses.

Yeah.

And that's the trick with the Sklar brothers.

I can't tell who.

Jason,

he has glasses on.

J-A-S-O-N.

That's how you.

Oh,

wow.

Okay.

Got it.

Makes me sound like Tony Robbins or something with like

mind gymnastics.

That was it one Scar Brother once.

Also, he didn't come back.

He just like, he was like, this sucks.

Nobody.

I did hear.

Now I will say I did hear he got hit by a car.

So this is

rest in power.

Tom, the other

thing that I feel like I just want to mention, I texted you about this.

Now, Jason, you may not even know this.

You know, Tom has a new show.

I did not know this.

A show with Natasha Leone and Matt Berry.

Can you tell us a little bit about this show?

Because

it got me so pumped when I heard about it.

But yeah, I'll let you pitch it.

Yeah, for like a couple of years, I've been working on this thing.

The idea of like doing this retro.

The word retro is getting thrown around with it because

it's funny and stupid.

and that

apparently means retro now because people don't want to be both of those things.

Well, now people just are very comfortable with stupid, but they don't want funny anymore.

Well, it's funny because it's retro to be two things at once.

I was talking to somebody the other day who said that now, uh, when you whenever you're talking about a comedy, you have to say it's meta.

It's like, well, it's not meta, it's just a, it's a comedy, it's

like, I guess it's meta if you are treating it like a drama.

It's yeah, honestly, I'm not sure where people's heads are at with any of these things now.

It just, it's like, I thought like we all talked about it, Matt and me and

Matt's producing partner about a show that would be British guy, American woman teaming up to solve crimes.

And it was like, it was like a stupid heart to heart to me, like

thinking of the legendary show Heart to Heart, which Robert Wagoner and

Stephanie Tower, Stephanie Bowers.

Adam Scott and I did that the greatest event in the history of television where we recreated the opening of the heart-to-heart theme song.

Very action-packed skiing, boating.

You know,

it's like, yeah, little spies.

Little spies run around doing fun stuff.

It's the kind of show where

a friend of mine described it as

there's a crime scene and then

they show up.

He's in like a tuxedo and she's in an evening gown.

And they're like, what seems to be the problem here, officer?

Like, they're just inserting them.

Like, if two fancy people show up at a crime scene, like, get

out of here, go away.

What are you?

You can't come over here, but they do.

They let them.

It's kind of like an 80s riff on the Fin Man, in a way, right?

Like, you know, like, yeah, without, but in the Fin Man, they're drunks and they're whatever, and they used to be detectives.

These people, they seem to be just living the highlight.

They're stepping out of dynasty in a way, and then just kind of solving crimes.

Yeah, it's going to be like old TV in the fact that it's going to just be,

it's going to be really funny and it's going to be kind of like if you put a Roger Moore era James Bond with like a

another person who's a lot tougher and

stronger.

So it's kind of

like, I mean, if we're talking, I mean, I know it's different than Natasha, but like the way Roger Moore kind of teamed up with Grace Jones, an interesting pairing there.

Yeah, it's going to be, I think it's going to really be funny, and we're going to shoot it in Europe next year.

So that'll be

its own thing.

Oh, that's cool as hell.

Yeah.

So I'm really looking forward to it.

It's pretty exciting.

And it's like the best actors you could ever ask

for.

Matt Berry is the funniest.

Heart to heart with Natasha and Matt Berry is...

I mean, like in that vein,

that already has gotten me.

Yeah, it gets me very, very excited.

I am excited that you are doing this and you know maybe and if it gets enough traction then maybe that grown-ups three script can go because i'm gonna tell you uh my kids can't get enough of these grown-ups movies we've i i've watched uh grown-ups one and two i would say conservatively in the last month five times each okay yeah

oh my gosh

that's too much

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Tom, are there any albums you want to recommend right now?

Oh, yeah.

Well, that's a good question.

I feel like now I'm in a weird,

lame stretch, and

I'm just looking at albums on my phone.

I'm going to say,

both of us are huge Destroyer fans.

Yeah, news.

Wait, what did you decide?

Will you be seeing him this Thursday?

I'm still not sure yet whether I'm going to see Pulp or Destroyer.

Good, good.

I mean, it's an incredible problem to have.

Yes, exactly.

No, I will be at Destroyer.

Very excited.

And one of my absolute favorite records of the year, Dan's Boogie.

Yeah.

So amazing.

And he finds like another gear.

It's imagine if people, when they can't figure out Destroyer,

it's like, think about if Bob Dylan changed his sound every time he put an album out.

Like, yes.

That's what if he stayed Bob Dylan.

Yes.

But sometimes made a David Bowie record.

Exactly.

And it just, sometimes it was a record with a cheap keyboard and sometimes it's a record with the E Street band.

It sounds like.

Sometimes it's a record with Frog Eyes.

Yeah.

It's just.

By the way, if Bob Dylan made a record with Frog Eyes, I would be thrilled.

New album from the band Wednesday is fantastic.

And I will also shout out the band Sharp Pins.

Steve Gunn album is great.

Steve Gunn has an instrumental album that's really beautiful.

And it's literally meant for us.

It's called Music for Writers.

I love it.

Ooh, that's mad.

Nice ambient stuff.

And I mean, as he does, it's beautiful.

Great.

Tom, I always ask Jason this, but like, how do you find it?

Like, how do you, like, how are you finding music?

You just,

it's funny because I am writing a book about.

music now and that's one of the things I'm trying to write about is like not giving up on finding like how to not give up on music as you get older and not just like stay in your comfort zone.

This is, I also talk about this all the time.

How do you, especially with the death of those curatorial places that we used to go to, be they

record stores like Other Music or Aquarius Records in San Francisco, any of those places that helped recommend, those have all gone away.

They have, but they haven't all gone away.

You could go to Gimme Gimme and Gimme Gimme in LA and they'll tell you about anything there's smart people working there

and i really just think you just have to pay attention a little bit and sometimes it can be as simple as if you're on a streaming service and there's you're listening to something you like just look for the thing they recommend that you never have heard of and just got it go down that road and if you keep going down a road past that you get somewhere else and like if you go oh well what would i listen what would the people who like this also like?

Then you listen to that.

Then what would the people who like this?

Now you're out in the woods and you're finding new things.

And I think one of the things that I've had success with in the Bandcamp ecosystem is

Bandcamp will show, if I bought

a record, if I bought the Steve Gunn record that Tom just held up, it might show me other people who've bought that record and

what else have they bought?

So it's also, oh, somebody who listens to that Steve Gunn record, they might also have this Riley Walker record or this Bill McKay record that I also like instrumental guitar music.

Okay, cool.

You know?

Yeah, absolutely.

I got to get on this.

I feel myself like flailing in this world because I just, I never,

I got to do some more exploration.

And that's where my downside is.

I used to love and listen and find, and now it's back for me.

Well, there's also things like the other thing i would recommend is like

look at who opens for people when they do the whole tour not like the band that just got thrown on for one night it's like look who bands bands and acts you like

see who they pick because that works even on the biggest possible scale you could find right it's just like oh well Sabrina Carpenter opened for Taylor Swift.

It's just like, that's how people found out.

Like it goes as high up as that, but it it kind of works.

If the band respects somebody, there's something there.

That's worth checking out if you love the band, the headliner so much.

And then also just, just like pay, there are still record labels you can pay attention to that still tracks to some degree.

And just find also find a venue.

Like, like if you're in this area, there's a place in Pasadena called Healing Force.

of the universe that it's a record store during the day and at night they have shows and they just have a certain type of show there.

They have stuff that's a little more mellow and

maybe

kind of,

you know, look, folky is a bad word for some people, but it's not a bad word.

It's, but it, um,

they have really nice stuff happening there.

And you just can look at the other bands that play there.

Go to the website, their website and see what their calendar is.

And if even if you're not looking to go to shows, just check out the names, see who's headlining and listen to a couple songs by people.

You can get there, it does take a little more work, but you can also take advantage of the fact that you can hear things like that.

You don't have to go buy an album and find out you think somebody sucks that.

Yeah, you can be exposed immediately rather than, oh, I read about this record.

Now it's going to take me a week to actually hear a cut from it.

Exactly.

Now you got to remember what you were trying to check out.

It's like the chaos that has happened, there's still patterns in the chaos that you can take advantage of and utilize.

You know, for me, what I do is, you know, I go to the record store from Freakier Friday, you know, where Chad Michael Murray worked.

And I was like, you know, I want to see, you know, I kind of, that's the record parlor and I kind of check out there and kind of get those vibes going, you know, and find some new bands and get some stuff like that.

You know, that's where I'm at.

I think, Paul, I think you've got it all figured out.

I would rescind everything I said.

Just go.

You know, I saw,

it seemed like there was some cool stuff going on there, some neat stuff.

If you want to hear more of Tom and us, of course, you can listen to our Avengers episode, Uma Thurman, Rafe finds.

And we did that live in New York with you.

That's right.

Listen, people should listen for the moment when the crowd realizes

that I was the surprise guest, and you hear

the room just deflate

that they're like, oh, I don't know who that is.

You know him as the host of the best show.

Please welcome Tom Sharpling.

Welcome, Tom.

Welcome.

Have a seat right there.

All right.

How are you, Tom?

I'm good.

Listen to that completely measured applause for me being here.

They heard Tom, and then the only thing they wanted to hear after that was

Mess Middle Ditch.

And then it's like, oh, no.

If you listen to it,

it really feels like...

You can hear the oxygen leave the room.

I think you can hear the people leave the room, actually.

You hear chairs.

That was the episode where by the end of the show,

the recording,

you had walked the whole room.

Oh, my gosh.

It's a classic, a classic.

But outside of that, it's a classic episode.

Tom, you're the best.

Thank you so much.

We will be listening to you and seeing you out on the road.

Best show live in October.

Brooklyn, Philly, LA, Chicago.

So good.

We cannot wait.

Congratulations, Tom.

Thank you.

Thank you both.

You're the best.

Thanks for not retiring like that.

Marinick Coward only did 15.

He only did two episodes a week for 15 years.

You're like, wow,

what a tourist.

He didn't have it, apparently.

He only had the president in his garage.

Thank you, Tom, for joining us.

And by the way, a shout out to Rob from Long Island doing double duty with that great introduction segment for Just Chat.

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Now's the moment you've all been waiting for.

It's time to announce our next movie.

That's right.

We're going to be going from a scare with a noose to a bear.

on the loose.

That's the kind of wordplay that this show is known for.

I love it.

Next week, we'll be kicking off a month of spooky movies with 1983's Grizzly 2, The Revenge.

I will note that some streaming services do list the year of release as 2020.

However, it was filmed in 1983, but

not released for 37

years.

Yes, Grizzly 2 The Revenge was released in 2020, but not released for 37 years.

And I don't know why, because check out this cast.

George George Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen,

kind of.

Okay, IMDb describes the movie like this.

All hell breaks loose when a giant grizzly, reacting to the slaughter of other grizzlies by poachers, attacks a massive big band rock concert in the national park.

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Rotten Tomatoes rates this movie an 8% rotten.

And Adam Patterson from Film Pulse says Grizzly 2 is a dreadful experience,

but it's an oddly fascinating one as well.

Take a listen to the trailer.

What happened now?

Grizzly killed again.

Three kids this time.

I don't want a cloud of fear on this concert.

Now you get that, Grizzly, and get it now.

The grizzly we're seeking is huge

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