Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)
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It's like an executive at Lifetime decided, hey, we should make a Quentin Tarantino movie. We saw a deadfall, so you know what that means.
Hey, everybody,
now it is time to
check.
Hey, everybody,
now it is time to
bello, people of earth
and hello, people of Los Angeles.
We are live at the Wilturn Theater
to talk about
Deadfall.
Who's got the cake? What is the cake?
Is it actually cake? We will get the answer to all these questions and more.
Man, alive, I cannot believe I've been alive this long and did not know this movie existed.
This should have been done year one of this show. It's so good.
This is like finding treasure in your backyard. Nicholas Cage, this crazy, and no one told me?
This doesn't even make the clip reels of people showing you how crazy Nicholas Cage is.
To dissect this movie, I have to bring out my two amazing co-hosts. But first, let me bring out Mr.
Jason Manzukas.
What's up, jerks?
What's happening, Los Angeles? How we doing tonight?
How we doing, balcony?
Monsters, monsters. Balcony monsters in full effect.
Oh, my God.
Funny thing about the balcony monsters, never wear pants. Just the shirts.
Pantsless. Just putting their asses on those seats.
Rubbing them around.
Getting that Wiltern butt.
Got a bad case of Wiltern, but yeah.
Jason,
Deadfall. Loved it.
This was...
Where was this?
This is a gem. Nicholas cage was
a revelation in this movie
this was i i didn't even know this like this is out there and nobody's been like how have you not done this i blame you fucks for this
I also feel like this is a movie where every scene they introduce something new
that tops the craziness of every scene before it. Yes, you're like, now we're in a pool shark movie with Charlie Sheen.
What?
It's all about geometry, triangles, Mark Twain.
Parallelogram. Adventures of Tom Sawyer.
And my favorite of Connecticut Yankee at King Arthur's Court. No, is that what he says? Yeah, about, yeah.
He only lists titles of the books when he describes Mark Twain. I've never read those books.
Never. Why would you improvise such a thing? I feel like that was clearly an improvised moment and he got caught he's like mark twain what do i know what do i know uh
books should have been like books writer you want me to talk about you want me to talk about books right well i'm gonna need a pencil thin mustache
get me the best red suit You can find. Take the curtains down just like Gone with the Wind.
Make me a suit jacket. Stop plugging on Spooled.
Don't worry about it.
Controversial classic? Yes, it is. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my second co-host, the lovely June Diane Rayfield.
How are you, June? I'm good. How are you, Pa? Very good.
Thank you for asking. June,
thoughts about Deadfall?
I mean, I had a hard time hearing you guys back there, but it seems like you enjoyed this movie. I did not.
Okay.
Fair point. Fair point.
I did wonder again, it was hard to hear, but I did wonder why we hadn't done it yet, and I was glad we hadn't done it yet
and I was sad that we had to do it
would you be sad to find out we're replacing every night of the tour with this movie
That's the tour. The tour
is making June watch this movie every night.
A couple of people asked me today in my travels around the city.
And you do travel.
Oh, I do. Who are you talking to?
Are you on a bird? Are just passing pather by the way? Are you just on a bird scooter rolling through town? I mean, listen, I love community. I love
engagement. Six seasons in a movie?
He's not announcing the movie. This is not.
Get it together, LA.
So so many people ask me today, and some of these people are friends and people I know and some I didn't know, what's the movie tonight?
And I always think this is a sign of a terrible experience at a movie theater where I could not remember the name.
And I said, it's two words.
It's one.
But it's not one word. Yes, it is.
It is one word.
In this instance, it is. Yes, they are two words.
But is this a word? What do you, let's bring out our guest here and we'll get into it.
Because I don't want to, I don't want to, I I have more questions about the title, but let's just go. Wait, wait, finish your thought.
Well, but if it's one word, what does that word mean to you? Well, we should bring out the guests.
I thought you said it's a terrible experience when you go to a movie and you don't.
Well,
when you can't put the title to the movie at all, when you can't.
It's like, I feel like every movie we've done is called whatever this movie is.
I will agree. This has a title that is a, like, there are, it's a benign, weird, nonsense thing.
It makes sense. Yes, I agree.
And it feels like so many movies we've done.
And when you said, I said, what is the movie we're doing? It doesn't feel like so many movies. Nicholas Cage is doing something that might as well be an animated character in the middle of this movie.
I mean, Nicholas Cage, I believe, to be in blackface for most of this movie.
I don't know what's doing with his deal.
I guess. I mean,
June doesn't see performances, she just sees titles.
Let's bring out our guest, Paul, and then at some point I'd like to return to this conversation.
I would love to bring us back to that because titles actually is going to come into play with our guest. And our guest has the unique distinction of having an eye for talent.
She is the person who saw Oscar Isaac and said, Yeah,
that guy's got the goods. And she was right.
She also is one of the greats, one of the stars of Brooklyn 9-9.
Please welcome Chelsea Brady.
Chelsea,
welcome.
Welcome back, Chelsea. Thank you.
Speaking of titles,
speaking of titles, this movie is called Deadfall. There are two movies called Deadfall, one with Nicholas Cage and one with Olivia Wilde.
You watched the Olivia Wilde one. Tell us about that.
I think what happened is that
one, God hates me.
Two, your email, I think that Gmail created a hyperlink. Is that the right terminology?
So I clicked the title thinking you somehow set that up. Got it.
Thus it brought me to the Olivia Wilde
Oscar Isaac. No, he's not in it.
Oh, he's not. Okay.
No, no.
No,
then I wouldn't be filled with rage. But
yeah, so I watched a whole snowy hellscape.
Was it an enjoyable movie? Were you confused why we were doing it, or would it fit into the show? I have to say it outdoes this Deadfall.
I have to say you should now do Deadfall Part 2.
Can I? I told you every movie we do is called Deadfall.
I'll say this. I think we should do, regardless, all the Deadfalls.
Every Deadfall. Let's do every Deadfall.
And Deadpool, too. Why not just put it all in there? Anything with Dead and Falls.
Any combination of Dead and Fall in other titles, I'll do that as well. So let's talk about the Teadfall.
Taul, are you sure you didn't hyperlink that?
Yes, we checked it out. It was.
I mean,
because that's a big mistake. I know.
Also, like, if there's multiple Deadfalls, why not just spell it out right now? I literally put in the email to Chelsea. No,
this is the Deadfall. It stars Nick Cage.
I also got that email. I didn't click on the link, but if I had,
I would have been just as fucked as Chelsea. That's right.
I clicked on the links that I sent Chelsea. They all lent it to me.
No, I'll show you. I'll show you after the show.
I wouldn't dream to waste everyone's time with something this minor.
Just me spending hours and hours watching Deadfalls of every iteration.
Did your child do anything for the first time during the course of you watching the wrong Deadfall? I missed him. He sang opera for the first time.
At the Met? At the Met. At the Met? He was on stage at the Met.
Wow. In Italian and French, apparently.
And you had to watch Olivia Wilde Deadfall. Yeah, she had always like a dark lip.
Well, let's talk about
tons of CGI snow and she was always like
with a dark lip peering through CGI snow. Well, let's talk about the title Deadfall because June, you have an issue with this simple merging of words.
I mean, what does Deadfall mean to you?
Honestly, I don't know. I'm not defending it.
Like, dead drop would be a term that I've heard.
I mean, maybe I'm going to make myself look a fool right now, but I don't know what that word means. I wonder, does anybody know nerds?
Is there a definition for deadfall that makes sense for this movie?
And if so, can one of you numb nuts figure it out how to do it?
I have somebody here. We're going to go down to the audience.
We're going to go get them right away. This guy seemed very confident.
Okay. Careful, Paul.
Careful. I saw, sir.
Careful.
First, tell me your name. Paul, hold on.
My name is Clark. This is Clark.
Clark, explain to us. Ask him if he's Superman.
Take the glasses off. Take your glasses off.
Paul, take the glasses off.
Oh, he is.
Clark, tell us what Deadfall means. A deadfall is a type of trap in which a heavy object is triggered to catch and maybe kill or capture your prey.
Whoa.
Okay. Way to go, Clark.
Did you retain anything?
A trap. Weak
heavy trap
trap? So it would be like if you set like a tree.
It would be like if you set a tree up like this and somebody were to follow through,
the tree would fall down and kill an animal it's like a killing trap it's a killing trap like for hunt like I'm assuming if you're hunting or something does that make sense for your deadfall that's a tree fall and no you would set it up like a human being would set it up to do it when triggered I'm still like purposeful
but more accurately that name seems better
I don't know I like as he was describing it I was just zoning out I can't like
it was hard I can't retain that kind of a definition because it's hard to to think of, like, well, so, what is an example of a deadfall? Clark.
A tree.
Go back to Clark for a second. He seems
Clark. I'm already giving Clark a lot of credit because, first of all, he was so succinct.
He was right on it. And we're still having trouble with it.
It's not your fault. It's our fault.
Yes. Well, I think Wiley E.
Coyote uses that device quite a bit.
Use a heavy rock. A lot of that people have a highbrow
and then attached to a rope that you pull when you see your prey on it. So like, okay, so he was saying like the Wiley Coyote Roadrunner traps.
Again, a beautiful description, a heavy rock with a small twig, you pull the thing and the rock falls in. So it's a kill trap.
Is that the only definition?
Does someone have a different definition?
Is there another example?
Is there another example? Oh, God.
I'm going to predict this right now. We will not talk about this movie.
We will finish this podcast. You will listen to nine ads for Blue Apron,
and we will only talk about the fucking title. How did this get titled, episode one?
The taglines of this movie were dot, dot, dot, the ultimate con.
It starts with an ellipsis? Yep.
Nope.
Because that presumes that something was the first half of that sentence. Nope.
Dot, Dot, dot, dot, the ultimate con. And the second tagline was.
How about it? What if it was just like James Con?
Dot dot dot, the ultimate con.
The other one was, you won't know who to trust, dot, dot, dot, what to believe, dot, dot, dot, or where to run,
period.
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Let's talk about trivia. This movie was written by the writer of Green Book.
Nick Valalonga. When I saw his name on the screen, I bolted out of bed.
He also plays one of the workers in the pizza coffee shop place as well.
Wow, wowee!
And Nick Valonga, his father is Tony Lip, the man that Vigo Mortensen played in Greenbook. But yeah, so
this is a precursor to Greenbook.
That you are. Wow.
Wow, which one's better?
Nick Val Longa also wrote a movie called In the Kingdom of the Blind, The Man with One Eye is King, The Corporate Ladder, Choker, and... This is all one title.
So yeah,
this is an interesting look back at where his career started and where it went to and all that sort of stuff.
This movie is amazing because
it looks aggressively low budget.
And I said to June, one of the things that really is really shocking to me, and I couldn't figure out why is this movie so weird, and it's because there's no production production design, and I don't mean that visually, I mean it's sound design.
It's deadly silent. Yes.
And it's unnerving. And you know where it's like most evident in the sex scene.
The sex scene was basically like
slow people having sex who didn't turn any music on.
It was like real
weird.
Well, there is something, I felt like there was also a lot of ill-fitting underwear in this movie
Just like baggy undies and like
I had a very bad reaction to
her
underwear His underwear.
I feel like I wish it would I I want the underwear to be either very tight or very loose. But it was so impressive.
Very loose. I don't want to be very loose.
What's an example?
No big deal, guys. I wear some very loose.
Paul, take your pants off. What's going on?
Every other day you switch it up. Super switching.
I'm just like putting it in there with a spatula. I got to get it pulled through the pants.
Paul takes his pants off, and he's got incredible bloomers on. Like, so loose and big.
Billowy underwear. Parachute.
They're made out of a parachute. If you look at Paul, it's just bunched up in his jeans.
I will say, to put voice. Three yards of fabric
that I have to pull them through the bottom of my pants. It's a conversation we get into a lot with our children where I like their underwear to be tighter.
And I say to June, you need to give them a little bit of space for all everything.
But I'm like, let's, doesn't it all need to be contained?
And I say, no.
Doesn't it? Are you afraid that they're going to get loose? I just want it to be like
pajamas. It's more protected.
I mean, pajamas, you like to put them in like a sausage casing pajama.
You know why, though? That is because if there were ever, God forbid, a fire, they are safer in very form-fitting pajamas. But guess what? They are, but it's not going to be a fire.
And they sleep in. It's going to be an earthquake.
Oh, yeah.
They sleep in wrestling singles, right?
Or scuba singles. I don't like, I'm actually concerned about it right now.
Paul's purchased both of them pajamas that are loose. If they're running through a burning house,
there's much more of a chance of a
paw patrol. Just paw patrol pajamas, running flappy paw patrol pajamas.
Well,
like made of like fabric-based kerosene, I'm sure.
They all say non-flammable.
I will say that there is something about seeing a man in boxers in a sex scene. When he goes to grab his junk out, it's like, ooh, I didn't like it.
I didn't like boxers.
Just be bare-assed, or like you said, wear jockeys or something. Did you see his hairy ass crack in this movie? And I was like, what is this? Could you, it's like a straight down the shit.
Yes, I was actually,
I commend Coppola for that one. Yes.
Chris Coppola. It went up.
Yeah. Yes, Chris Coppola, Nicholas Cage's brother.
It went kind of down into his butt crack and then it like went back like that. It was like, it just almost did it just to be like, in case you're wondering what's doing inside his butt crack.
Yeah.
Here's a peek. Let's zoom you in there.
Here's a, hey, sexy dingleberry alert. Like, this was...
This was a wild moment. And she reached into his pants.
Oh, you're right. That shot.
She reached. I remember that shot because again it was sort of evocative for me and
she reached in there and grabbed she reached in like you would be reaching into like some sort of like prize chest like let me what am I gonna get gotta go deeper at the bottom
like like as if there were other dicks that you pass around not gonna grab nope nope nope that's the one that's the one I want
It was like, well, that's what happens inside a billowy underwear.
That's why I'm saying keep it tight, keep it together, know what you're going to get.
But this movie did definitely have too much boob. I said, TMB.
I mean, the boob. Too much boob.
Too much boob.
Begged to differ.
But, I mean, that's fine. That's boo.
I just felt like it was like gratuitous and not sexy. It was just sort of like,
almost like an art class. What was hard for me was this movie is, and we've not really described what the movie is at all, which I love, by the way.
But this is like the archetype is a classic film noir. He is a, you know, where the femme fatale seduces the guy, the guy into falling into a trap and blah, blah, blah.
Like double indemnity.
Could you watch it?
It's almost, but, but. One of the greatest movies, 100 greatest movies, yeah, on the AFI.
Top plus, yeah.
Wow. You see how I'm here talking, June?
June, can I talk about that? No,
I'm here talking about classic film noir, the archetypes of the form, you know, and he just comes in with some unspooled bullshit. It's
honestly, it's a great
point, it's a great thing.
What did you say? No, no, this isn't that. I'm sorry, what? Did you just call June Angels? I'm so sorry, guys.
I'm so sorry.
And so
the archetype dictates that there be a femme fatale to seduce the kind of the guy, and their chemistry is a straight zero. Like, there is nothing compelling about their chemistry, even remotely.
She seems like a person who has access to a femme fatale's closet, but is not the femme fatale. She's in plain dress-up.
Yeah, she's like that. Ooh, that hat.
She's like a woman who like every Halloween is a femme fatale.
Well this whole movie is costumed like it was like the theme is gangster like like even that guy who comes out at the pool hall with Charlie Sheen who's like wearing like a black undershirt and like with a cell phone on the side.
So it looks like everyone's doing their best.
I don't have that much at home. I think this is gangster.
Yeah, yeah, it's gangster. It's gangster.
You're gangster.
The idea that you said, and I did not know this, that this was directed by Nicholas Cage's brother
makes so much sense as to why Nicholas Cage is allowed to do what he's doing.
Well, Jason, just to kind of put a little bit of a change of your mind here, he came to set in a cage dressed in a wig, albino contacts, and sunglasses because he thought it would add authenticity to the character.
And then his brother told him, you could not dress however you want for the part.
We have people for that.
Wow. But it seems like his brother lost a large part.
This is what they settled on. This was the scaled-back version.
This is the version they could agree would be putting. This is the compromise.
I will say, too, to go back to the Femfatel lead actor role. At one point when I was watching, I was like, man, this guy reminds me of the guy from Terminator.
And they go, oh, it is the guy from Terminator.
Michael Bean is like, he's in Aliens. He's in so many great movies of this time period.
But I love him. I love him in this era.
And I love, he's such a great,
I think he's such a great face for this period of movies that I'm like, oh, I feel like I never got more of Michael Bean. I want more Michael Bean.
I did not want more Michael Bean. I'm all set.
Oh, interesting. I mean, I want Michael Bean in those movies.
The original actors were Val Kilmer and
Joanna Whaley. Oh, wow.
Yeah, they pulled out right before the movie started shooting. So these two are real last-minute replacements.
Wow.
See, pulling out really does offer protection.
I know we're jumping around, but since we were talking about the sex scene, can I just play the post-coital scene?
Because this is one of the most disturbing revelations of the film when she asks about the locket.
What was she like?
The girl in the locket?
I barely remember.
So why do you carry it then?
It's just kind of a reminder, I guess. Of what?
Things I'm still looking for.
Like.
Like, I lied to you. It's not an old girlfriend.
It's my mother.
It's not an old girlfriend. It's my mom.
There is, in this scene, there is no score. There's not a song.
There is... There's nothing
in this void.
There's no like street noise. Like something going on.
There's no walla walla. Nope, yeah.
A car honk. Nothing.
It's deadly silent. It's as silent as that void, that black void that they had sex in, because they're in a hotel room, and then it's just a black void.
It's like under the skin where
Charlotte Joe Hanson puts everybody. This movie takes place in that liquid.
I want to show you that movie, June.
I'm scared. I would like to be there to watch June watch that movie.
No, but it's so weird that no sound is unfolded. Alright, so the movie starts off.
Michael Bean is in.
Sorry, Paul. So what?
Is there another person in the locket, or he just has a locket with just one picture? That's weird. Also,
what did happen to his mother? And do men wear lockets?
Not to make it heteronormative, but it doesn't seem like. That's so funny, that never even crossed my mind.
Like in this complete shitstorm of incoherent details, I didn't even think of that. And then he takes it out before sex.
Like, hold on.
But props it up open so mom can watch him fuck.
He's like, I want my mommy to watch us fuck.
I didn't know her, so it's not that weird. This gets me off.
Also,
also, I felt like it is strange to have an edge. There is a sadness to a locket that has two sides and only one side is full.
Yes. Maybe she would be the other person.
It's like wearing a beef fry sta and
best friend's
locket and being like, well, I don't know who has the other half.
Absolutely. So he's walking around with a heart-shaped locket around his neck.
Yes. Wow.
It's funny to me that he thinks it's more awkward to say it's his mom than to say it's another girl. Yeah, here.
Like it's better. Oh, I'm memorializing my mom.
She died.
No, he's hiding that by being like, it's a girlfriend that I carry a locket of all the time.
Or, but hear me out. It's also like, it's my mommy that I wear on my heart.
It's pretty weird.
If you're like trying to get involved with someone, you take that. I mean, they both suck.
Both are red flags. Yeah, they're huge, huge red flags.
I mean, good thing
that she doesn't have much of a sensibility because she's dating Nick Cage when we meet her. So I think her bar is set very low.
And just to get into Nick Cage in this world, Nick Cage in this movie,
wow.
I mean...
It's kind of like there's not...
I think the tough thing about it is just like, what do you say? You know what I mean? What do you say? I know what to say. Okay.
Phenomenal. No.
I feel like his performance feels like, you know, when you're shooting something, you guys know.
And like, it's like between takes, you're joking around with the other actors. You're like,
see my line like this.
And then he actually did it.
I feel like he was like, hey, do you dare me to do this whole movie as Tony Clifton? Yes, I wrote that down. Do you dare me to do this whole movie as Tony Clifton? I will do it.
It's half Tony Clifton, half Al Pacino's scarface. Like, I don't know what he's up to, but I'm obsessed with it.
It's not in, it doesn't belong in this movie. It's in another movie.
And it's all through clenched teeth.
We're in particular over here.
Let's go. It's like, it's not easy.
So, like, why does he need a prosthetic nose? Like, there's no reason. Is there? Does it come into play in any way? I think it can be a lot of fun.
It's awesome.
Like, is his...
Is his character an insane person?
Yes. Well,
yes, but it doesn't seem like the world is reacting reacting to him like, oh, there's a nut, there's a mentally unstable
person in our midst. Like, we have to all be quite cautious.
Oh, arguably, if I'm
L.A.
James Coburn, right? Yes.
The uncle, if I'm Uncle Lou or whatever, the idea that this is your right-hand man
means you're bad at being a gangster. Because he's
not. he is he is unwell he is like everybody is so subtle including the monkeys mickey dolens
shouts shouts to mickey dolens from the monkeys who's in there everybody's as a personal salesman they they seemingly this mafia owns a block and everyone that is in the block is part of this like weird conman mafia but Are they just conning themselves all day?
No, they're running numbers.
They're taking bets on like a neighborhood lottery, basically.
They're numbers runners, whatever, in what looked to me like the farmer's market. Yes, on Fairfax.
Which was very strange.
But Nicholas, like, they're all doing such a good job of being subtle about the crime they're committing. And Nicholas Cage is literally enormous.
He's dressed insanely. He's screaming all of his lines, everything.
I mean, if you did not watch the movie,
I'm certain there's some compilation of his scenes. Well, I mean, you have to find it.
Here's a little taste of Nick in the Nick in the bar.
Here we go. What's your problem, boy? I thought you were seven.
We aren't that, baby. There's nothing to worry about.
What the hell are you bothering me for?
My baby's a little cranky tonight, huh?
Yeah.
I don't dig looking at your ugly face.
Now, your father.
He was a cool dude. Cool enough to get the baby to burp up $1,500?
It being jack shit. He told me all I had to do was walk outside with him shake his head and I was even
Are you telling me that was his fucking money
Somebody's after your job boy
I bet he even stole your woman
I picked that scene.
I picked that scene because literally every line is a different
voice. Different voice.
Yep.
Different voice. That's that.
Let me be clear.
That's the only take they could use.
However many takes they did, they were like, this is the only one.
This is the one that makes the most sense, I guess.
Excuse me, Nick, I know we're brothers, but can you not throw water in the face of the extras without telling them?
And also, don't punch an extra too, because in a second later, he just punches a guy in the stomach, and I feel like no one was aware of any of that.
It is, it is, it is, he's basically in the middle of a noir, like a CD noir riff, a a terrible CD noir riff, he's basically doing a Comedia del Arte character. He's playing like a clown.
Yeah, he's stated like you are in Comedia. Like, you're just angry, you're just sad.
He's fully stated the entire movie.
I mean, I love though, the commitment to it because no one else is doing this. Like, no, like, it's not like,
It's so big. Can you imagine being in a scene with this? Well, that's sort of what I'm saying.
Like, I genuinely think, I don't think he thought this was going to be a good movie.
I think he sort of is like, my brother sucks.
Like, and I'm just going to have fun. You know what I mean? Like,
I think he thought this was a well-conceived
Chelsea. I would agree with you.
Except he made a sequel to this movie.
Nicholas Cage took this character and made a sequel in 2017.
What?
What are you talking about? I love it.
What?
What, my
talking about?
Is it called Deadfall 2? The rise of Eddie? Let me see.
Oh, my God.
So...
So, this movie comes out in 1993. In 2017, Nicholas Cage brings back Eddie with a very interesting grouping of people.
Bear with it because he comes in a little bit later, but here we go.
It's worth it.
You know, Mike, I have a job for you if you want it.
Brothers, don't worry about me.
Listen to your dark tips on Mikey. It's always something.
Is it true what I heard? You bought some Coke, you wanted to flip it? What do you want me to say? So you're a drug dealer now. Bring my Coke, Com! Where is it?
Your brother's always getting into trouble. It's Mikey.
I owe everything to him. I think we're even.
Oh, you think we're even, you and I? I know of a way where we can both earn what we deserve.
There's no amount of money that I would do that for.
You owe me!
You owe me!
Wow.
And again,
like a, what looks like a gritty crime thriller with a cartoon character, with Tony Clifton in the middle of it. By the way, how would this even exist in this movie?
How did he ever survive the deep prior death? Right. With no scar.
No. Here's the challenge.
Make the third movie.
By the way,
this is not even two years old.
My question was ultimately: who is that?
Yeah, yeah.
Who is like in the bus? In the bus, when Michael Bean is taking the bus, we rack focus to this guy.
And I was like, huh, okay, well, obviously that guy's part of the story.
And then here he is again, and he gets killed outside. And did anybody ever tell me where and why the beard guy was involved?
Right? I understood it as there's an Adam backstage that says if you had a fake beard, a fake wig, a tick, or a voice, you could just show up and you get
in the movie.
Like, I genuinely did not know.
I'm assuming that the uncle must have hired him.
Or did his dad hire him? His dad probably hired him to keep an eye on him. Oh, I get it.
Was the dad trying to using this guy? Okay, I get it.
James Coburn, the dad, hired Fake Beard to kill Nick Cage because Nick Cage might kill Michael B. Oh, got it.
Right?
That's got to be it because he probably wanted to protect his son within the dangerous situation he was putting his son in without this son's knowledge and saw Nicholas Cage as so erratic as to be potentially a threat to the son, which Nicholas Cage was already starting to assume that Michael Bean was trying to kill him, right?
I don't know. I don't know.
That makes sense. Can anyone up here take a stab at just what ultimately from beginning to end the con was?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, from beginning to end, like the movie. The beginning of the movie.
Yeah, beginning.
So he basically, the dad fakes his death knowing that the son will go find his brother, and then the son will start working for the brother to get involved in this big diamond con.
And then.
How would the dad know that?
It's a leap of faith. It's a real
wait. Was the dad.
Did the dad set that up? Yeah.
the diamond? Did the dad set the diamond deal in motion with Harry Houdini or whatever? Harry... Harry.
Wait,
the first one or the second diamond one?
The only.
The macro thing. Because, okay, so you have James Cobra and the dad, right? And in the opening scene, Michael Bean thinks he's killed him, and everybody goes their separate ways.
Okay, Peter Fonda, everybody else, Gripe. But he also walks out with, doesn't he walk out with money?
And Peter Fonda does say to him, like, your dad wants you to get the cake. Yeah.
So that's, that's. And his dad's dying words were, go to my brother, get the cake.
Yeah. So that's how it works.
Whatever. Like of all this, I just heard cake.
Yes. Agreed? The whole movie, I was just like, mmm, cake.
And it really was like, and the cake, I guess again, like a Noari way, I guess the cake is like, contains a thing like the Maltese Falcon Christian.
I thought the cake was just a, I feel like that cake is a choice. What the ring is in.
No, the engagement ring for the shared woman that they loved, right? That's the cake? It was in a cake.
Oh, right. Because you had a cake.
The box was a cake. And why would you give somebody an engagement ring in a wedding cake? Yeah, it's confusing.
The weird thing is the cart for the horse.
It's not even a, it's not supposed to look like an actual cake. It's just this weird figurine, this weird cake figurine.
And correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, I thought it it was supposed to look like a cake. Well, it
looks like a cake, but it's like a precious moments figurine or something. It doesn't.
No, it looks like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't actually look like a cake.
Oh, it does, though.
Wait, what do you mean it doesn't look like it does
the scale? Thank you. If you saw it, you would not eat it.
Right. Oh, no, no.
It's in the shape of a cake.
It's not, it doesn't, it's not like realistically a cake. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, but it's in the shape of a cake. It's like a mini cake.
But I don't understand what world are we in in which you're handing someone that. Right, that's what I'm saying.
Like if you're proposing something.
If you're proposing and want to do a fun bit around like, here's your dessert.
It would have to look like a real cake. It looks like something.
Yes. You would actually.
Otherwise, she's like, what are you doing? Wayne, are you presuming that the reason it looks like a cake is because it was delivered during the dessert course of a meal?
Why else would this engagement ring be? I thought it was just like a fancy ring box. No, no, no.
The actual cake was delicious.
This was the actual cake that was delivered.
Oh,
they went all out on that one. Look, like they didn't even go to the store to buy a cake from Gelson's.
They just, someone in the back just slapped some stuff together.
To be fair, that does look like the cake that that woman character would have made. Absolutely.
I thought it was a great choice. By the way, it looks delicious.
It looks so milty.
By the way, I will say, what an odd birthday. Ham in the afternoon.
Disgusting.
Just a giant ham. Afternoon ham.
Come over for some afternoon ham and cake. Ugh.
Gross.
Can I ask a question, too? Wasn't the engagement ring inside red? Yes. Was it a giant ruby? Is that what we're to believe? And wasn't the cake brown? What's that? Yeah.
It's almost brown, like an odd choice.
An unfrosted wedding cake. Yeah, like it should have at least been white.
Yeah, put some fondant on that.
Okay, nailed it.
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But I mean,
there is so much going on.
I think the con is: go work for my brother, and then we'll get all that money from him. Because at the end, they get that suitcase full of money, and he gives it to everybody.
Everyone seems to get a small stack, and then they keep the giant suitcase together. He's like, We split it.
Right, but I guess my question is,
why set him up to do that? Is there no other person?
I just wasn't quite understanding.
It felt like a long road.
I suspect it was the presumption that James Coburn, the uncle, would probably welcome his nephew into his trust rather than if he tried to get Peter Fonda to go and get involved in James Coburn, the uncle's gang.
So do you think, though, that there's any world in which he could have done that without faking his own death?
Yeah.
If he trusted his son, but he basically used to
play his son,
why not bring him into it? Yeah, he didn't trust him.
He knows
it.
He assumes so. I think he did trust him, but he needed to make the son really mournful because who knows who's watching him?
He also set him up. So he didn't trust his acting.
Yes. Yes.
By the way, can we talk about the best performance of the film, that opening scene where they're doing the Coke deal?
Whoever's buying the cocaine is scooping it like that woman scoops dicks out of boxers.
It is like, I've never seen anyone taste cocaine, like
he's throwing it in his mouth.
I can see angels.
I can see angels. Isn't it Michael Constantine? Is it? Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's Michael Constantine, the father from my big fat Greek wedding.
He, I mean, as well as a million other great things. He sucks in that cocaine
Here it is like him just spraying. Almost as if it perhaps is real cocaine.
Just suck.
Two things. Hey, two things.
His fingers in his mouth.
Also, two things. Hey, Chris, I'm so sorry.
We did not get lights. We have two flashlights.
All right.
Point one at each guy. We'll see what we can get.
He thought it was film noir. You don't need lights.
It's supposed to be dark.
We haven't even gotten to. So much.
I can't believe what time it is. I know.
We maybe shouldn't have spent 20 minutes on the title. I should like the title, the cake.
Okay, and I'm sorry to spend one more minute on the cake, but
I have to. Can we find a picture of the cake? Yeah, find a picture of the cake, and I may need to see the cake scene.
I don't know if I can. That's a big ass.
Okay, don't worry about it.
But I want a consensus up here at least. So we all, we all think that the cake was the presentation of an engagement ring.
Correct. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
That's so crazy.
So in that presentation,
he's just thinking, like, oh,
here's your... Here's your engagement ring box, which is in a cake.
I think James Coburn might have done one of these
and opened the cake. No, he couldn't.
It's a screw top. It was? Yeah, he screwed it.
I noticed because I felt like the actor
screwed it too much when he was screwing it up. So, was he trying to hide it in the office so it was just it wouldn't look like an engagement ring box?
Because when I saw that, I would walk over to the city. It was in a safe.
Oh, is it a ring? It was in a safe.
This is like when a director's directing a scene and the actor's like, I have to ask another question about it. I'm sorry, it's just a cake box that I'm so.
Why do I have to know about the cake box? Like, what is it to me? And if it's in the safe, why does it need to be in the cake box? Couldn't it just be in a
thing seems to be
that
James Coburn the uncle had the cake box and the ring made for the woman that James Coburn the father then stole? Is that right?
Right, because at one point, James Coburn, the uncle, says, you could have been my son. Which isn't weird.
That's not how it works.
That's not how that works. And keep in mind, that woman fucked twin brothers.
And by the way,
they had James Coburn, but yet that picture is the most Photoshop picture I've ever seen. It looks like one picture was taken in the 70s and one picture was taken in the late 80s.
And both of the people who were in that picture were not looking at the camera. They're like veering off to the side.
I thought he was pretty hot as the uncle.
Oh, Uncle Lou? Yeah. The white hair.
Yep. Yeah, the white hair looked looked great on him.
Yeah, it was better than the dark. And it was like California was treating Uncle Lou well.
Yeah, yeah.
And Uncle Lou had found love. They were going to Tahiti.
He had it made. Uncle Lou, though, spends a long period of time, because I get what they're trying to do.
Not reveal his face, not reveal that he's a twin. Although that's a big hole that you, your dad would never say, oh yeah, my brother and I are twins.
But whatever.
So they have to hide his face. So he's like looking out the window for an exorbitantly long period of time.
There's nothing on, yes, uh, so I'm glad you're here, and uh, think that that would be cool if we could talk about some stuff.
And anyway, boom, bomb, check it out,
and that's where, like, there would be like a music sting to tell you something had happened, but it's just empty, it is the vacuum of space. Do you think there's any way he actually is his son?
Wow, a lot of agreement, Jim. Okay, I'll go down this road.
Because at the very end. So you think when she left with the father, she might have already been pregnant from Uncle Lou and...
Potentially.
Because there's a moment at the end when the carousel is going around and he's sort of like trying to figure out his relationship to his dad and it felt like the world was spinning.
Yeah.
And
especially because he said you could have been my son. Well, there's no way he could be his son unless he actually could have been a son.
Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.
So he was right.
If she stayed with me, you would have been mad. And what's interesting is that the movie creates a more compelling connection between Michael Bean and Uncle Lou.
Uncle Lou's like, come to Tahiti with us. Come live with us.
Come be with us. Be a family or whatever.
On Uncle Lou's ticket that just says one way. I've never seen a ticket printed one way.
And then his father comes in, kills Uncle Lou, and is like, fuck you.
And his dad's basically like a full-on piece of shit. And his hair is like just hastily darkened with shoe polish.
Again, it's like glistening. It's glistening.
Got invited to the gangster party.
It's like, I really don't have anything. And he was like, let's put some shoe polish in my hair.
That's gangster, right?
Vampire
got dressed from the Tim Robinson sketch where he's got all those mafia pieces for that party.
What about Charlie Sheen as the pool hustler, Fats?
That was...
I was like, okay, here we go.
Yet another person that's revealed, like we said earlier, that everything... What's the actor's name? His name is...
They call him Fats, but his name is Morgan Grip. Morgan Grip.
I was imagining him having to rehearse that line. You can call me Fats.
What? What?
Hang on. Sausage.
Hang on.
Sausage.
Sausage. Sausage.
Sausage.
Sausage.
Sausage.
Why are we saying sausage?
Mark, do you know why they're saying sausage? Oh, his assistant is called sausage.
Has this been worth it?
Aren't you glad you
round this to a full alt just so we could figure it out? Was this a satisfying part of the podcast?
I hate you.
So,
Charlie Sheen's introduced
Morgan Grip. I don't even really understand where he falls into the world ultimately, but
I really do think what I'd like to play is his monologue about Mark Twain,
which we talked about a little bit, but here we go.
Oh, by the way, when they're playing this pool scene, none of these shots are impressive to me, and I don't think that the never do you see like a ball go in.
Oh, they're not playing
pockets. They're playing like snooker or whatever.
Oh, God. Snooker.
What's it called? What is it? Billiards. Billiards?
Sausage! Sausage. They're playing.
They're playing sausage. No, they're just playing a different pool game that doesn't have pockets.
Okay, well, they're playing a pool right because he does reveal that table without pockets.
I didn't know there were pool games without pockets. Seems like there's no payoff.
Each time you have to hit like both balls or something, you have to like. So lame.
You also need to explain that to the audience.
Like, hey, the thing that you're so familiar with, it would be like if you did a bowling scene, but it was like, no, no, no, but you never put the ball on the alley.
Because I was like, what am I watching here? You know, it's just like the bowling we know, but there's no pins. Yeah.
You just roll a ball down a lane.
And a score is given because it's all geometry.
I think this is the Mark Twain moment here.
This was Sam Jane.
Samuel Langhorn Clemens.
You know,
Mark Twain.
The genius behind Huck Finn,
Tom Sawyer,
personal favorite of mine,
a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's court.
He used to play whenever he had writer's block.
It was good for the brain.
And end of monologue. And
we never see him make a shot in the scene. Nope.
Like, we never see him and the shot in the same
and the pool shot in the same camera shot.
By the way, but what would the shot mean if we don't know even what the game is?
I guess that's true.
By the way, I just think it's funny to refer to an author as the genius behind because it's like you can say that, but like when you see it, something where you don't, with a genius, it's not certainly clear.
It's like, oh, yeah, he's the genius behind that movie. But you know, the author of the book.
He wasn't like. He's the guy that brought you
Tom Sawyer. And the guy behind Huck Finn.
Behind Huck Finn leads you to believe that there are other people that also executed it as well.
That's the only scene with any music in the background.
Shocked me. Oh, my gosh.
And then Charlie Sheen works for a man who has a lobster claw for a hand.
What was this? What was this? What was this? What was this?
That guy. Here's the thing.
That guy and Nicholas Cage are in the same movie that's true these guys very names rosenkrance and gildenstern are dead other movie somewhere where they're fucking linked up it's called eddie and the claw and like
coming out 2020
coming out 2020 they both finally got this is like a doctor evil setup right here
Another guy shot in a black room. There's a lot of black rooms in this movie.
We don't understand. Do we understand why he has the claw hand?
Nor does he ever really use it just to
touch things in a weird way. It's yeah.
It's like he could use his other hand. Yeah.
But he's selfish and he doesn't want to learn how to use it.
But if you're going to give someone a claw for a hand and he never click, like,
chops anything with it,
knowing the point. This is Chekhov's claw.
Like, let's do this.
No.
I did think he was going to pick up a diamond with it, but he didn't use it to pick up the diamonds.
And also, for a man like this who appears to be a diamond buyer, seller, something like that, why does he need to have like a vicious claw?
I mean, we're in a world...
Put a loop on the end so you can look at diamonds with your hand. I mean, that's your repetitive motion.
Right, you're saying if there's nothing there,
if you don't have
anything there. If you have to.
Ironically, he never chops a hand off, but I guess you can't do that. So you're saying just put like a giant magnifying glass? Yes.
I mean, that's part
of the thing he uses the most.
Because when he has to look through the loop, his partner or his henchman has to hold the loop up to his eyes, and he's got to like look at it.
Because to do his work, his claw hand is obsolete. It's a metaphor for the movie plot, like overcomplicated, unnecessary.
But we've all been in that thing where your doctor says, hey, you lost your hand. You want the claw hand.
And you think, that would be so cool.
And only when you get home, you're like, I should have just gone for the normal hand. Yeah, guaranteed.
Middle of the night, this is one of those scenarios where in the middle of the night, you're half asleep, you full-on chop your own dick off.
Because you just go to hold it with the wrong hand, and it's like
chop, chop, chop, see you later.
Oh my gosh. This scene leads into my favorite scene of the movie, which is the gangsters getting ready around a table as the camera spins.
And holy shit. You want to talk about some acting.
Every actor, when that camera's on them, they are giving
everything. They're giving their lives.
This is it. They're giving their whole lives.
That scene, I mean, that scene was
masterful. Why does that woman have two long nails?
They look like coke nails.
Oh, it's probably for head scratching. I I guess I've never seen cocaine nails.
I've never seen
two together.
Isn't it just you have one cocaine nail? I mean,
maybe one is for, like, maybe it's like one is for cocaine and one is for some other snortable drug. Maybe.
What if, you know, she gets her hand chopped off like her boyfriend, and she's like, shit, I want to get a claw hand, but I also don't want to stop doing cocaine. So
I know what it is. I bet all the nails were that long, but her boyfriend chopped off a bunch of them accidentally.
Oh my god.
Wow. This was a wow.
This was a wild ride, this movie. I enjoyed
the abject nonsense of this trash. What's crazy is the other deadfall.
The central relationship has
a theme of incest and it still had a lot more dignity.
Now we have to do it because that seems to be a theme in a lot of our movies. Can I ask Chelsea what is the deadfall in the other movie?
No idea. No, the treatise probably.
Much like this one, I was tuned out for much of it.
Let's go to the crowd. Let's see what you all have to say about this movie.
All right.
I'm going to ask you all to do it in your best Nicholas Cage and Deadfall voice.
I won't take a no. You gotta present.
And look, just, you know, Nicholas Cage just gives an A for efforts. That's all we're looking for.
A for effort.
All right, so this person
has a question.
I don't know if it's gonna be good. All right, here we go.
This is my spidey sense of doing this show live a bunch of times. Ma'am, your name in the best Nick Cage, and then your question.
My name is Annabelle. Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Annie Hoodles, my question is for you, darling June.
The murder scene in the vat of boiling oil is so violent and so disgusting.
How did you like justify that in your like brains? I don't know. That was so gross and horrible.
Like, wasn't that scary to everybody? And he ripped the wig off first. Like, why?
Like, why did that happen? And, like, did he ingest the boiling oil into his thing? What happened? Like, it's so scary.
These are all things that...
My spider senses never roll. Up to the balcony.
I don't know. I found that scene
to be
erotic.
Oh.
That's so concerning. All right, I am all.
Be careful. So be careful there.
Where?
Please.
Be careful. Great.
Front row here in the balcony. All right, sir.
Your name and the best Nick Cage voice and your question. Let's go.
Come on down to me. All right.
Hi, my name's Casey.
Pressure's going to be really bad, but yeah, we are. Steve Protectors.
What's happening?
I'm walking away. I'm walking away.
I'm so confused. Just be careful, Paul.
Forget about
it.
I thought I was just out of breath from running up all those stairs, but then I was like, this is making sense. Oh, you got to remember to be a little bit more.
You got to give them an eyeball.
We have one final question from a woman who is. Where are you? You have to let this woman ask a question.
That's who I'm going to.
That's who I'm going to.
She was going to be my final one. I knew there was one person to pull us out of this.
I want to say, ma'am, you have been jumping up and down, yelling and screaming.
I want you to really right now examine, is this worth it? It's worth it. There's absolutely no way.
We're going to do something a little bit different tonight.
Tonight, we're only going to take one question from the audience. Ma'am,
say your name in the best Nicolas Cage voice and ask your question.
My name's Jacqueline.
Okay, so my question is this. I was so sad when he died 45 minutes into the movie.
I thought that there were going to be another Nicholas Cage twin coming into the movie.
Like, was that something that you guys would totally be down with? Like, he died out way early on. I'm not going to lie, you burned 700 calories jumping up and down to ask that question.
I mean, even when Paul was walking toward you, you didn't stop jumping up. So, the question, the question is, would you be in a movie where there are twins?
Did we think part of the reveal would be another set of twins? No.
I feel comfortable saying, no, I did not.
No, it wasn't even that. She asked if we would be down with that.
Would we be down with
another twin? I feel comfortable.
I feel comfortable saying, no, I would not like it. I mean,
I would be down with it, sure.
Well, because of time, we weren't able to go to the audience for questions.
That's a bumper. Let's get right down to second opinions.
That's right. We have an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion.
It is now time for second opinions.
Yo, I got a second opinion, and I'm so glad that you're here.
And I just finished this movie, and that was touching my spirit so much I had to hop on Amazon.com just to let you people know that this movie's the bomb.
I watch this movie every night with my family and friends and then I wait for them to leave and then I watch it again. Top to bottom.
Crazy movies are fun, but I think that thought was lost on everyone. Yo, ignore the reviews.
Movie critics are ruthless. Worst of them all, June Paula Mazukas.
Just stop it.
You're so caught up looking for logic. Characters and plot, man, all of it's toxic.
I'm hype and I'm lit because the splick is the shit. I'd give this movie five stars.
If I could, I'd give it six.
Whoa, amazing.
Give it up for Tony. Holy shit, that was amazing.
Here we go.
LA may not be the place for questions, but it is the the place for song.
Here we go. Now it's time for second opinions.
That is his mom.
Oedipus complex.
Why is the O silent?
Why did they have slow
sex?
Second opinions.
I don't know why you'd have them.
The plot is a turducken.
Three coppolas
fuck them
when your dad falls
in his locker.
Find your uncle,
run a con
together. Mickey Dolens
is a bad guy.
You may ask why
he is not a monkey on Deadfall
on Deadfall
Genevieve
There you go, thank you Genevieve. What did I tell you?
Spidey sense
Genevieve that was fantastic
Okay
42 reviews for Deadfall on Amazon in total. It's a very low number.
It averages 3.6 out of 5 stars. There are
36% are five-star reviews. I'll say this much.
The five-star reviews are in on it for the most part in these.
So this one is
written by Pro-Izzel.
And Pro-Izzel writes in December 17th, 2016, dude, This movie is so entertaining. Not for those easily insulted.
Five stars
insulted like insulted by bad filmmaking
Michelle Huss in February 2015 said to give the story the right number of stars for the cheesy feel to the movie minus two stars I do mean cheesy For more twists in the storyline than balloon animals at the fair, three stars.
So now we're at one star.
For the not obvious clues I saw after the fact I felt like an idiot, two stars. Now we're at three stars.
The best part of the whole movie, Nicholas Cage, five stars. Eight stars.
That is it. Five out of five.
And then that's like that new math. Yeah
That's what Terrence Howard invented, right?
All right, so this one is
okay.
Okay, this was a good one. From Dakota.
Watched it until Cage dies.
Up until that point, it was amazing. Five stars.
I will say, once he's gone, it is
a much worse movie. Yeah, so it sounds like you would be down for a twin.
I mean, I guess I've seen him do it in adaptation, so I guess I can see it being done. I guess I'd be down with it.
And finally, we end on...
And finally, we end on Gordon New, who writes, the dark scenes are blacker than noir, and the dialogue is riper than pulp fiction. Kig's character is original.
His calculated overacting is as fine as parody as I've ever seen. He put some thought into the role and did a far better job than most of his work requires.
The obligatory intrigue is masterfully done. The dramatic cinematography is magnificent.
The musical score is straight out of history. The plot has more twists.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The musical score was straight out of history? Out of history. What does that mean?
What is that? Straight out of history?
I thought this is a facetious review, but I don't think it is.
The musical score was straight out of history. And the plot has more twists than my grandma's pretzels
well acted well produced and well edited enjoyable on so many levels five stars wonderful movie wait was that from paul wetzel
i was gonna say it was
I didn't know how to correlate it to Aunt Annie. Oh, yeah.
This movie came out in 1993. The budget was...
Anyone want to take a guess at that budget?
$10 million.
Where?
Where? $10 million.
And the opening weekend gross was
$9,183.
The
domestic gross was $18,369.
And how is there a sequel? How did they get a sequel? That's crazy. I think that Nicholas K just said he wanted to do it.
It ranked 252 out of all the movies that came out in 1993.
To give you an idea of what was coming out in 1993, Jurassic Park, Mrs. Doubtfire, The Fugitive.
This movie was beaten by Demolition Man, Super Mario Brothers, Body of Evidence, Surf Ninjas, Mr.
Nanny, and Airborne. And there were only seven movies made in 1993 that made less money than Deadfall.
0% on Rotten Tomatoes.
And we thank our producer, Avril Halley, for bringing this movie to our attention.
Holy cow.
And before we leave, I want to just. Avril made this.
It's a mashup of all the VO in the movie. I won't play the whole thing.
My favorite line was, The Coast Was Alive, but I had no time for the sights.
The coast was alive?
This is just the VO all cut together. I'll just play a little bit of it, and we'll put this up online.
So here we go. Secret, I swore I'd uncover.
The coast was alive, but I had no time for the sights. I was looking for something to tip me off.
A break in the routine. A place to start to hunt.
It looked like I had to pay my dues by wilding Duncan Lou's flunky. This fucking fucker fucked!
Well, at least he was a lively fellow. Shape the con, or it'll shape you, Pop would say.
Wise words my new friend Eddie never learned.
He was the type of badass bluff man that was stuck on the high you get from the con. And that's bad news.
Eddie was kid stuff. Lou was the real deal.
He was as clever as Pop.
A true pro of the high con.
I saw that right away. And yet.
Just a little taste of just all the VO mashed up. I would love it if someone would just cut together all of the Nicolas Cage lines.
I would watch that like... I mean, it's here.
It is here, right? I think when I just googled it, it just popped up. It just says like,
yeah, honoring the craziest performance. Oh, great.
Thank you, God.
I mean, we don't have time to watch that. It's there.
This exists.
Watch it. Watch it at your leisure.
It's seven minutes. This audience is insane.
All right.
Thank you, LA. You have been a fantastic crowd.
All right, and that was us live from the Wiltern. A big thank you to Chelsea Peretti, who is just fantastic.
We are so excited to have her back.
A big thank you to our producer, Averill Halley, for cutting these clips and finding these movies. Nate Kylie for doing all of our research.
Devin, who is here in The Will turn with us.
Cody Fisher, our other producer, everybody at Earwolf. Also, Kyle Waldron for doing our amazing artwork that you see on our Instagram and Facebook page.
And by the way, follow us all on the social media. We love that.
We love to have you there, especially the How did this get made social media.
And let's continue this conversation about Deadfall next week on our mini episode where you can give me a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. That's 619-PALL-ASK.
We'll see you next time.
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