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We are live at Largo for a very special how did this get made?

It's Paul, it's Jason, and our very special guest tonight talking about a movie that came out in 1988

called Jack's Back.

And by the title, you would think this is a movie that has to do with Jack the Ripper

or Jack the Ripper coming back

or time travel.

or just a bunch of people getting murdered.

No, none of that.

It's about a brother who has like a time-life book connection to his other brother

and thinks something is up.

IMDb says a serial killer in Los Angeles celebrates Jack the Ripper's 100th birthday by committing similar murders.

Yeah, I guess.

That's like the season.

That's like the Rosencrantz and Gildersern version of this movie.

It's happening in a different part of it.

The tagline of this movie.

100 years ago in the city of London, in the East End slum of Whitechapel, a man shocked the world by murdering, raping, and mutilating five women.

He was never caught.

That's the tagline of this movie.

This movie that takes place in a time in LA where Labamba is playing.

at the movie theater.

I know that because they drive by it.

That line was all about Whitechapel and the, yeah, he was never caught.

And we're not going to get any further into that mystery in this film at all.

But man, oh man, we do get double spader.

To break it down for you tonight, we are going to have some great guests.

And our first, not even guest, but co-host is Jason Manzuc.

What's up, jerks?

Let's go.

Let's go, Largo.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, okay.

We got to talk about Spader all night.

This one, wow.

Wow.

Front to back, top to bottom.

T2B.

Vibes, baby.

I was on board for whatever.

We don't have spader anymore.

We don't have spaders.

I mean, we've got literal spader, but we don't have anybody that's doing whatever this is.

It's this is a tone poem.

It's weird.

Yes.

What a mistake that he never worked with Terrence Malik.

Wouldn't that have been fascinating?

I don't know if Terrence Malik can handle it.

Here's what I will say.

That this movie was directed and written by Rowdy.

Harrington, who went on after this movie to direct Roadhouse.

Yes.

The producer Joel Silver, Rowdy, yeah, Rowdy, saw this and was like, I got the guy, I got the guy, which is odd because

I couldn't make heads or tails out of it.

And I loved it.

I don't, yes.

What a magic trick.

What a magic trick this movie pulled off.

A movie in which every single character appeared to be guilty of something.

Everybody is like, wait a minute.

Like everybody acted like they were the killer.

It is a movie that's so confused in so many ways.

We're going to break it all down.

But tonight, sitting in the June chair, we have a very special guest.

You know her from shows like Jury Duty, Interior Chinatown, the studio.

The studio she just won on Dropout's Game Changer and hosted after midnight.

Please welcome Lisa Gilroy.

Yes, yes.

Welcome.

Welcome, Lisa.

I don't need a big jock to hang me.

I can hang myself.

Oh, my God.

You know, this is your first time here on the show, and we give you Jack's back.

What's your, like, before you watch it, do you have any?

I thought it was going to be a Jack Black movie.

I would like Jack Black to remake it.

It would be great.

I mean,

I was really interested in this because this is a movie that growing up, I remember seeing this cover box.

I remember seeing this, like, I've seen this, and I never, never took it out, but I thought from the cover, it was like a Jack.

I did think it was a Jack the Ripper thing.

I just thought, like, oh, James Spader is Jack the Ripper.

Okay, I'm in.

And it really wants you to believe that for like a second.

Yeah.

Because this movie isn't really even about those murders.

Not at all.

Neither.

It's not even about 100 years.

It's not even about exactly it's not even about sydney's murders spoiler alert the the boss sydney yep the big twist at the end now when you google this movie people are like and the twist will blow your mind it really you know why like he's the only person left at a certain point yes and he's also the only person that would ever sing start spreading the news

or or the other old man song but like he i don't see james james fader can't even speak above a whisper you think he's gonna sing like that in the shower?

It was never him.

I thought it would be like his split personality had a great like Frank Sinatra voice.

Can I say something?

Yes.

And I mean this with all with all sincerity.

I did not realize until I, because I wrote it down, I think minute 46 that he was now playing his twin brother.

Okay.

I

had a tremendous amount of problems understanding double spader.

It took me a minute to be like, Doc Spader wears a baseball hat.

Bad boy Spader wears a sleeveless v-neck t-shirt.

And

I believe an earring.

I almost got caught in the switch as well because I was like, oh, he just dreamt that he tried to stop the murder and was killed.

And then I was like, then what happened?

How did you think that?

Because the murder happened right outside his bedroom window.

Yes.

So we're to believe, we're to believe that James Spader, the bad boy,

has moved back to Los Angeles, having not talked to his brother for two years and moves across the park for where his brother works?

Well, was it even where his brother works?

Wasn't it like a gym?

Because I feel like he got killed in an auditorium.

Wait, James Spader?

Yeah, basically.

No, he got killed at the clinic.

The clinic was also a church.

You guys are so fucking stupid.

There is a lot of, like I am also confused.

This movie, first of all, one of the nurses at one point says we're so busy I can't right now.

They are dead.

There's not a single person there and it's the same six people who are in the bar later who are just like

I this is what was confusing me for a long time.

I was like is he a cop or is he a doctor?

Because this is

Spader Prime?

Spader Prime, because this Spader Prime, this is his doctor's office.

Yes.

I've never seen doctors have their own desks set up like a police precinct.

Yes.

And this office place has a bullpen.

Yes.

Where all of the doctors sit, and it's in like a craftsman house in Eagle Rock.

I don't know what's going on at all in this movie, but I love it.

I want to live in this movie.

Her glasses are everything.

This opening scene got me confused because I'm like, he is a doctor, I believe But he's being chewed out like he's in a police Yes movie.

And this is the scene here just to get a taste of it

you won't be getting paid on Christmas

By the way was this shot during a nuclear apocalypse

the the orange hue burning through the city's on fire.

Like is he under like uh like a like a fried chicken place

with that would be amazing if you looked out the window and it's just Arby's

I feel like Tony Scott saw this like hang on I can do this

can you pause already here's the thing

here's the thing this movie's pace is I don't even know how to describe it other than lugubrious.

and Spader is setting the pace it's as if the movie happens in real time and that real time is slow baby I wrote down this movie took a valium like the like whatever the whatever it is like we're just like hey which is rush which is why when they're driving around LA in that vintage BMW I'm like fuck this feels great

so here's the the police at this point again I am not quite sure who this is I know he's a doctor, but it's a man who thinks he's in a Christmas Carol.

He he's he's been given makeup to make his eyes look black underneath and he's so committed with doing every acting like well

I'm mad at you.

Well, I guess he was telegraphing he's the bad guy and it did a good job.

I didn't get it.

We're here to just because the people out there call you a doctor doesn't make you one

You're still in medical school and you're working here under my supervision and approval.

One more stunt like you pulled a day.

And I'll have your ass bounced out out of here so fast it'll make your head swim.

Do you understand me?

By the way, he's chewing him out.

For there's a woman bleeding in the lobby.

He goes and like puts a band-aid on her face.

And he's late for work because he's promoting bringing health care to like unhoused people, right?

It's even dumber than that.

He's participating in something.

He seems to be going on the news to spread the word that there are homeless people.

Like, he's like,

and you'll never believe it.

Some of these people don't have houses.

And the news person's like, what?

And he's like, yeah.

And they're all different communities.

That's the other thing, too.

They're all different communities.

It looks like about a 17 by 5 foot area.

And then when it airs on TV and he tells people there are homeless people in Los Angeles, he gets an applause break from the fellow doctors.

Like, oh, finally.

Oh, yeah.

Well, like, Spader Prime is, I think part of what's hard about it is even this version of Spader,

the doctor, the hero, the person.

He's a Chicago Cubs fan who is an LA native.

Inexplicable.

Why does he wear a fucking Dodger's hat?

It's so easy.

Oh, yeah.

I'm assuming.

He's not from Chicago.

A Spader?

I don't know, but he's, but it's clearly that he is like, they say, I grew up just a little bit.

He says these words.

What fucking Dodger's hat.

And his twin brother is in all of LA's most deadly gangs.

Oh, yeah.

But this Spader, what's so crazy is like, even in these scenes, I don't trust this guy.

And he's the good guy.

He's the good one who gets killed.

And I'm like, I don't know.

Spader makes me feel like this guy's a creep.

He's making you feel something, right?

Oh, yeah.

Always.

Always.

And that was my question for you, a younger person.

What is your relationship to James Spader?

Because boy, is he a bedrock element of my teenage years?

And just to the audience says, you are a tween, right?

Yes.

So I kind of grew up on like Paw Patrol and Peppa and stuff like that.

Sure.

I would love it if Spader was on Paw Patrol.

But I remember my dad showing me Spader on the office.

Oh.

Oh.

I'm kidding.

I saw Spader on the office as Robert.

It sounded real enough.

It sounded real.

Like, oh, okay.

I really, you guys felt fearful.

I could feel it.

Remember when he was Robert, California?

Oh, yeah, right, right.

So that's where I know him from.

So I was like, oh, now he's Rippert, California.

He's got, he, to me, is like 80s youth actor.

Like, I mean, there's.

How old is he here?

I mean, he's got to be 26.

How old is he?

I would even say younger than you.

Yo, it's crazy how soft his lips look.

Oh, he is.

He is the ultimate bad boy, pretty boy of the age.

He's so quiet.

Yes.

That's what I'm saying.

We don't do this anymore.

But that's what I kind of felt like.

I know you were saying it felt that the movie felt

lugubrious.

This, this, I mean, again, this movie participates in one of my favorite 80s tropes, which is psychiatrists.

You can't trust them.

Mental health professionals.

Probably quacks.

And then, and then he's got, he lives with his mother and he's like, I'll shoot you, motherfucker.

I'm like, what are we doing?

I mean, there are some funny moments in this movie.

In the very beginning, the cops are talking about this killer, the Jack the Ripper killer.

And he goes,

we must stop him.

Yeah, no shit.

Like,

what is the other option?

It's like, it was like, but it was said like, huh, five people dead.

They are.

We got to stop this guy.

The police?

Yeah.

The police are the least relevant characters in a movie that is ostensibly about a serial killer and the police that are after him.

It is so odd because they also are so cocky, the police.

Like when they catch Spader Prime and they think he's the murderer, like, we did what Scott Lanyard could never do.

It's like, mother, this, this is a very different time.

Jack the Ripper happened a hundred years ago and they have no technology.

You're in modern-day Los Angeles and you just caught a guy and you did no investigation.

It's a whole Karen Reed operation all over again.

Um, yeah, so these cops are cocky, even when the two basketball-playing

like other doctors come in, like he was with us the entire time playing basketball.

He's like, Really, all the time.

It's like, Well, yeah, we were in San Diego, we saw him a lot.

Okay, thanks, fellas.

No receipts, nothing.

They needed no evidence.

Yeah, no evidence.

Two guys, we got it.

Thanks for coming in, boys.

Lots of boy power in this movie.

The only girl we got was Hermione Granger.

When she put on those glasses, you knew she was serious.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And when she used the time turner, I was like, she's going to help this kid not be abused.

Yeah.

And then when she was out and about with both the Spader twins, she was like, I'm going to bed before either of you can think of something to get us killed.

Or worse, expelled.

When she called Spader horrid, absolutely horrid.

And then when she said, you've got something on your nose, just that.

I love when she.

You say one, Paul.

All right.

Birdie's bots.

Sorry, Bertie's.

Bertie's bots.

Okay, oh boy.

Spader is giving me.

Spader is giving me grown-up Draco Malfoy vibes.

I read these books.

I was like into them that much.

I like to watch all the movies.

I was a fine fan.

I get the jokes.

I'm not going to be quoting anybody.

We get it.

You don't love the books.

You love her politics.

Don't like it.

Come talk to me in my Tesla.

Now, let me tell you.

I'll tell you.

No, for me, I always like...

I like the Harry Potter with Johnny Depp.

That's where the series took off.

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I am also like kind of blown away by the way

there's a moment where they say, like, what do we know about this guy?

He kills women, he fucks them, but he wears a condom.

And every guy, and every cop is like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Huge laugh.

Biggest laugh of the movie.

That was a crazy thing.

Oh, we know our boy wears protection.

Everybody.

What an idiot.

Yeah, they're like, hey, hey, if you're going to kill the girl anyways, it doesn't matter if you get her pregnant.

I know.

If it was me, I'd be enjoying the ride.

Now, here's what I want to reveal to you.

That a couple things here.

That Jack the Ripper never rapes.

Jack the Ripper.

Jack the Ripper.

Here's the the thing.

The movie's set in London, Paul.

Tyrie Jack the Ripper.

Yeah, there you go.

Jack the Ripper never raped his victims.

Oh, okay.

Wait, what?

What?

What?

Okay.

Are you like a Jack the Ripper truther?

No, I'm finding I have a lot of movie mistakes.

I also know who actually did it.

I actually know who did it.

He was actually a really good boyfriend.

You always say he was misunderstood.

He was.

He was.

But no, but like they make such a big deal out of it and it's like it's he's doing it exactly the same way.

But a cursory Google, I know they don't have Google back then, but a book opening would show that that was not the case.

Or at least have Alta Vista or web crawler.

Ask Jeeves, did Jet the Ripper rape some ladies?

No, sir.

You don't have to ask in a British accent.

Really?

That's I never used to do that.

I don't think that's how I ask Jeeves.

I thought he respected you more if you asked.

How do you think you'd know that, Paul?

It was so long ago.

Do you think they even checked for that kind of stuff?

Well, you'd think if the whole movie's based on Jack the Ripper, they would be like, it's identical.

It's identical.

He does everything identical.

It's like, well, that's an addition that you don't even need to make.

It plays no part in the story.

I have to tell you something.

Yeah.

I don't think you should say that anymore.

And I don't think you should go to parties and be like, fun fact, Jack the Ripper never raped anyone.

Okay.

Because I want to say, I want to say, let me tell you.

Stop putting that into games of celebrity.

Yeah, like it's just like it's uh uh he didn't rape anybody.

He was

a smart guy.

Yeah, he was a good boyfriend.

Yeah, Degrees.

Yeah, yeah.

Because like, okay, I did a show at Dynasty last week, and I was like asking the, listen, my, you know, we took a stand-up class together.

We're still talking about

promo shows you've already done.

Hey, check it out last week.

I was phenomenal.

Is it still live streaming?

It probably is.

Like, to give you a taste of how bad I still am at stand-up, I was asking at one point, I was soliciting fun facts from the audience because I just genuinely wanted to learn a new fact.

And someone in the audience was like, I have a fun fact.

Actually, Robin Williams wasn't like that depressed before he killed himself.

Oh.

And I'm just saying that's the same flavor of what you're doing over there.

It's a warning because we're friends.

No, I appreciate it.

I appreciate it.

I just want to get the truth out there about Jack.

I will say that I've never been more creeped out by a box of condoms in a movie.

When the killer just like places a box of condoms out like he doesn't even he doesn't even break the box.

It's just like, well, I'll get into this later on.

It'll creep me out.

Oh, I didn't notice that.

I thought it was camera film what he was putting out.

It was a box.

But I think you can use both for both.

Yeah.

Especially because all of his, he's using a Polaroid.

So you can use the wrapper of the Polaroid film, that heavy Mylar wrapper or whatever it is.

And the pictures you get are beautiful.

You will get lead poisoning in your dick, though.

But it comes out very Pollock-esque.

But don't shake it.

When you were talking about Hermione,

the way they introduced that character, you know, she's like the girl that everyone's flirting with in the office and the creepy guy that we think is Jack the Ripper for most of the movie, the big, tall guy who is the killer of Prime Spader.

He's like, you get that book that I gave you?

And she's like, oh, thank you so much for that book.

It was great.

He's like, if you like it, I'll get you another.

Yeah.

It was

so non-specific.

It was like, it wasn't like, like, just books.

Like, what could the book?

I will buy you another book.

If you like books, I will buy you a book.

The reveal of this guy is that he's just low-key, an amateur abortionist.

That's his deal?

Like, is he like a janitor at the hospital?

Like, what's his thing?

Other than, hey, knock, knock, do you want an abortion?

I believe that he is the anakin to the chiefs, uh, Emperor Palpatine.

Like, because at one point, remember when he's like cleaning out his locker, he's like, Hello, what are you doing here?

Good job, good job.

I'm like, What is he doing there?

Why is he hiding in a locker room?

What's the matter?

I loved their dynamic, and I was like, Oh, I wish I'd gotten more of this.

Yeah, you know, because boy, was that creep city?

Um, but I think they were like, You've seen him kill Spader Prime, so you think he's the bad guy.

But also, so weird to be like, if he, okay, first of all, his name is Jack, so I think they're trying to be like, That could be the Ripper.

Oh, right, yeah.

But then also, like, I don't know.

I imagine Jack the Ripper is like, do you know that Jack the Ripper never raped anybody?

I was going to say, I imagine Jack the Ripper being, I don't know, you know, an unassuming bald man of a regular height.

Just like, you know, into stuff.

Wife was out of town, no big deal.

Drives the Tesla.

Exactly.

It says

stuff like, if you want to talk about it, just come sit in my Tesla with me.

But no, I just thought it was like weird casting choice that they cast this like seven-foot-tall half-man, half-foos ball table.

He is so big.

He's too big.

I just felt like immediately, I was like, it can't be him.

He's like Jock Jams 3000.

Oh, I agree.

Because his head's a football and he's speaking.

No, he's too big.

He's too bad.

His presence on screen is like forced perspective.

Yes.

It forces him to seem as though he's Gandalf and everybody else is a hobbit.

Yeah.

And he is.

Now, I do want to break this down what did he do because he went to that woman's apartment to give her a free

well not free not free abortion oh right yes right he was going to get some snacks out of it um but no he also is doing it in her apartment which seemed weird and unsanitary but he's going to give her an abortion but then she's murdered

no yes yes yes and then

That one alone no, you are really on an island there.

No, no, no, she's alive.

She's alive in the movie.

She lives.

She survives.

Fake news.

Everybody lives in the movie.

There was no Jack the Ripper.

I know what a dead girl looks like, and that ain't it.

She's actually,

she's an immortal character.

She can't be killed.

So, in my...

He does not kill her.

Right, but what happened?

Like, I guess what I'm trying to do is, what happened?

Did he go there, give an abortion, left?

And no.

Let me at least finish, and you can tell me I'm wrong.

It's Tim.

It's Tim.

Oh, it's Tim.

Okay, Tim.

You're allowed to talk.

Did he give her an abortion?

And then

he's like, you're all done.

And then he let the door open for.

And he says he stepped out for something.

And when he came back, she was Deadsville.

Tim?

He shows up and says, I can give you the abortion for $200.

She says, are we going to do it here?

He's like, yeah, of course.

So he gives her the abortion.

And then he leaves to go to the drugstore to get what he calls a prescription.

I don't know who prescribed it, but when he comes back, she's dead.

yeah okay that's what i was basically saying up here and you're like no no

that was what i was saying he did the abortion left and then someone killed her and he was like yeah so so you know the i guess is the idea that sydney is following him around

it's here's sydney's whole deal it's like he's like let me kill every woman i've ever met through the clinic where i work yeah like that's like me killing every man i've ever done improv with and also how long do you think the police would take to be like it's the zip zap zop murderer?

The police, the police in this movie are embarrassingly bass.

Yes.

They are given the slip by everybody.

They're terrible.

Yeah, they're like adults in a kids' movie where they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Spader is kind of giving me Macaulay Culk and Home Alone vibes.

And Sidney is kind of like

bigger pecs.

Yes.

And man, when Spader's brother dies,

when Spader Prime dies, and bad boy Spader wakes up like in tidy whiteies in bed,

that's where I got confused and I was like, oh, it was all a dream.

And then I was like, hang on.

I don't think it was all a dream.

I rewound it.

You

really was like, boy, did we drill down on him in that bed in those briefs?

I was like, give me, now we're in, now we're just doing like vintage Spader.

And then put him in a convertible, let him drive around to LA.

I was like, I'll watch this to the tune of like some song by a guy named Paul Sachs.

Okay.

I have some info about this.

If you don't play the song, this the songs from this movie, this is better than drive.

This movie is better than drive.

All right, so I want to do something.

This might upset you, Jason, but

what happened here in this movie was

the director, Rowdy, wanted to get a song by Peter Gabriel.

Okay.

Okay.

And Peter Gabriel said, no.

So he found another artist and he's like, can you duplicate the Peter Gabriel song as close as you can without getting sued?

So now we'll put them both together and you will see a little mashup.

Love it.

That was the

Peter Gabriel song is Red Rain and Stuart Copeland from the police plays only hi-hats on that song, and it's incredible.

I

love the music, I love the way that this movie is, but I want to go back to the Emperor Palpatine Anakin Skywalker relationship just for a second.

Oh, sorry, I'm not so familiar.

So, is this one Natalie Portman is Two Girls?

Now, she also died in childbirth, so maybe

think you think Jack the Ripper got Amidawa

100 years ago in a galaxy far, far away

on the on the pre-anniversary.

Um, this is the only clue that we have that these two are working together.

Oh, creepy.

What are you doing here?

Sydney,

you scared me.

I forgot some of my stuff, and I needed it.

Well, you're not supposed to be in here after hours, especially after what's already happened.

I understand.

I was just leaving.

Jack?

Sir?

I've been meaning to tell you.

You do good work.

Unlimited power.

Thank you, sir.

Go have some fun

Yes, sir

Both of these people are murderers We see that I thought that was a coded I thought that was a coded scene like we've been working together and you've been no no, I don't think I don't think it is Tim

I don't I don't think it is, but I think the movie I think it's absolutely insane that they are both murderers and are just don't and don't know it and are just like hanging out in the same place.

Wait, Jack's a murderer too?

Well, he hanged Spader.

He killed Spader Prime.

Well, because he thought that Spader Prime was going to say that he was the murderer.

That's self-defense.

What?

That was self-defense.

I mean, this is a take that only works from the front seat of a Tesla.

He was like, what are you talking about?

He was like, I didn't kill her.

I didn't kill her.

And then Spade's like, oh, this guy's going to fuck up everything.

I'm studying to be a doctor.

This guy's going to, I'm going to be fucked.

He's like, I got to kill this guy.

I got to track him down and kill him multiple ways.

This is the wildest of takes.

I just think that it was a one-time thing.

That's enough!

It's enough that he killed one spader.

Never mind that he goes after the other one because they won't leave him alone.

He's like, I didn't do anything.

I'm a good doctor.

The guy likes my work.

I'm just trying to succeed.

I bought a girl a book.

I didn't rape anybody.

I'm giving out $200 abortions in the house.

Yeah, but Paul, why does that guy have a pre-made noose ready at the office?

That's, yeah.

I always suggest everyone carry that, especially if you live in LA.

Okay, he killed him in the church doctor's office, right?

Okay, so they were fighting, they were grappling over the phone.

He called the police.

He said, hello, I think I know who it

was.

Hang up.

And then he drags him to the other side of the church where a noose is coiled up in weight.

Well, that was after Easter services.

Wait, do you think they hung Christ?

I grew up

in the church, man.

Where did you go to?

Greek Orthodox.

Wait a minute.

A lot of people say they put him on the cross.

Well, how did they get him up there?

They got him.

Get him up there.

And then they throw plates at his feet.

That actually makes perfect sense.

The cross should just be for Christ.

It's his symbol.

It's like he was killed, and then the church is asked to follow and to die for Christ.

That's something we got to do ourselves.

That's noose.

That's not 100%.

We should start wearing little noose around our necks.

You go out with that theory.

I go out with my Jack the Ripper series.

We're going to make a lot of friends.

now spader 2 moves to LA but seemingly is packed like Indiana Jones packs the Raiders of the Lost Ark like why is he packing a wooden shipping a wooden shipping crate he works at foot locker

what was that about what he wants at foot locker he's working at foot locker or the equivalent thereof motherfucker has like genuine old school wooden crates in his apartment with a gun inside

it's like the kind of a crate that you order like an exotic monkey in.

Yes.

Yes.

Or I guess a non-exotic monkey could come in it as well.

No, I meant like a little sexy one that strips.

Oh, okay.

But like, what is he wearing before he strips?

Like an astronaut costume?

Depends what the theme is.

All right, I like that.

I mean,

they have the hypnosis scene.

Ah, yes, of course I do.

So,

also, how come, do we anymore describe things as stiff as a board?

Like, is a board a measure of stiffness anymore?

Do we still talk in boarding?

What are you literally talking about?

Yes, see?

No.

See?

A board, there's nothing stiffer.

We still have those.

We do?

Yes.

I don't hear people talking about the stiffness of things as it relates to.

Have you ever heard people go, stiff as a board, light as a feather?

I don't think that this changed.

You don't think so?

You think kids now are still saying stiff as a board?

I don't think it's coming up that much.

Hey, lady, don't, don't, don't, don't get testy with me.

I hear a lot of kids say stiff is an android.

Yes,

but this is 19, this is 1988.

Here's the hypnotist scene with Robert Picardo.

Yeah, we love Robert Picardo.

All right, Richard, your left arm is as stiff as a board.

Oh,

yeah.

Jason's fuming.

That happened quick.

I mean, absurd.

Say one thing you think that's going to be a little bit more difficult.

A board.

Now I'm going to lead you back

to the clinic.

It's dark.

It's effective.

What is it, Richard?

Richard?

Richard.

Richard.

It's all right, Richard.

It's alright.

So hot.

I mean, that's electric

to watch.

Right?

What was, I mean, but what?

He is so compelling.

The only other, like, and I mean this when I say, like, I do think he is one of the great actors of this generation and one of the only people who, as well as having some of the most unreal good looks, is willing to do Nick Cage level nonsense

at all times.

Well, I was also thinking, I was like, what a fucking, what an incredible guy.

In a different world, too.

He could have had a Christopher Walking career, too, because he's doing, like, there's an intensity there that's kind of just amazing.

But I also don't understand this from a plot point of view.

He is tied to his twin.

I get that.

I get that idea.

But when he's hypnotized, he then transfers into the twin's body.

Okay, I have to help you guys because you're confused.

So everybody seems to be having a problem with the twin of it all.

So I was raised on like Olson and Olson detective agency.

God, I love it.

And like Lindsay Lohan playing two girls and the Olsen girls going to camp and all that stuff.

So usually what happens is one girl's going to be a little bit more.

Wait, are these movies still available?

not for you pervert oh yeah

one girl's British and she's rich and the other girl wears a backwards hat like stuff like that it's simply easy to understand so there and of course all twins are connected and yes if you hypnotize them they will see the murder of the other twin as evidenced by both Olsons and it takes two

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So the whole movie is a cat and mouse between Jack the Rip.

Well,

not Jack, right?

It's Jack, the guy that we think is Jack the Ripper.

No.

Tim!

But like, I mean, like, that's what we're, but we're chasing this thing the entire time, and we get to see these great James Spader fight scenes where he punches like a Hail Hitler.

Like he

punches off.

I've never seen a he flips the 260 pound man over his back and then ends it by double nut kicking him.

He just in order to hobble the guy he just kicks him hard in the nuts twice.

Spader is never on screen for any action.

No, no strikes, no nothing.

They have scenes where his legs just come into frame.

Legs and hits strikes come into frame that spader is not doing

spader is i mean what i what i really love this movie is when he is just acting in in like in the environment like when he goes into his brother's house and he looks at the bookshelf and he's looking at the books and they're just medical books and you think oh is this important no they're just medical books like There's nothing telling about that.

Yeah, he's a medical student and those are the books.

Like there is, you know, but it's like...

But it's so compelling.

And And then, even in those boring, nothing scenes, I'm still like, I'll watch this fucker do whatever he wants.

When he, like, picks up a picture that I think is of himself and then looks at himself in the mirror, it's like, I've aged.

It's like, yes, that's a you're a child.

Should we talk about this?

Because what the fuck.

Was that picture a picture of him marrying the sex worker who got killed?

He took her to prom?

Oh.

What?

Wait, what?

I did not get that.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I was like, wait, there's an even, there's even more connections.

So, wait.

Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Oh, whoa, wait.

Spader knew Denise?

Wait.

What?

I did not put that together.

He doesn't even know she's dead.

He does?

Wait.

Which spader is that?

Prime.

Oh, oh, okay.

All right, assholes.

Okay, forgive me.

I thought it was the other.

I thought it was the second spot.

So this is why.

Okay, okay, okay, I'm figuring it out.

I'm figuring it out.

This is automatic.

In the clinic, in the clinic.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Okay, wait.

I'm drawing.

I have it.

I had it for a second.

I understood the movie for one moment.

He's Prime Sprater.

He's a doctor.

He's in the office.

He goes, I'd like to take a close look at that pregnant prostitute.

Like he's interested.

And we go, oh, that's speaking.

And we're like, oh, it's because he's going to kill her tonight on the night where he's supposed to kill a pregnant sex worker.

But instead, the twist is he's like, I took her to prom.

I'd love to say hello again.

So I'm going to go find her personal medical file and pay her a visit at her home tonight.

Yes.

I think that's.

I think that's now what's going on.

Wait, wait, wait, no, wait.

This is the night he's picked to go visit Daryl Hannah in her home

to say, remember me, we went to prom together.

But he runs into a coworker who was just there giving an abortion and another coworker who was just on the way out from killing her.

Oh, wait, but he's not a killer, though.

He's not a killer at all.

No, he just wanted to say hi.

We're going to reconnect.

Oh,

weird, weird way to reconnect.

Because

what's so weird about it is this, because she's a foot in front of his desk.

Yeah, why doesn't she say, like,

oh, they're like, they're remembering prom right here.

You tell that to my pimp.

Oh, boy.

Care about your unborn child.

He's like, prom.

I know her from prom.

In my office.

Wait,

he's like, wait, didn't we go to prom together?

He's like,

he's like, thank you, by the way, for letting me wear a blazer as my doctor's jacket.

Oh, this is so insane.

It is so crazy.

The movie that is

set in Los Angeles, the city where we now are, posits a world in which every, everybody lives in a three-block radius of each other.

By the way, once again, second spader moves across the park from this location.

Hermione lives half a block away from my old house, and I wanted to drive by today.

At the Shakespeare Bridge.

Yes, it was so exciting.

I wanted to go over.

Loved it.

Loved seeing.

I loved the driving around Los Angeles of this movie.

I mean, it's basically an Echo Park movie, right?

I mean, that's...

There was a bunch of stuff.

There was also Hollywood and Holly, that section that's the movie theater's Hollywood and Vine, there, kind of.

No, yeah,

where the Cubs used to play.

Where the Cubs used to play

before they moved to Chicago.

Now,

does he know

that in that like Triple X theater,

this guy just sells guns?

How does he know that?

Yeah,

he used to be in the game.

Because he used to be a bad boy, I guess.

Yeah.

So it's like, since he's left and come back, he's like, yeah, well, you can always buy a gun off of that guy.

Why?

Why?

Here's my question.

Wouldn't it make more sense if there was was good Spader and Bad Spader?

Why isn't Bad Spader just a bad guy?

Why does he work at Foot Locker?

And it's not because he's like later in the thing, he's like, hmm, look at these treads.

That's what I thought was going to happen.

I think our killer is wearing Socones.

Where did my brother see Soccines while he was getting strangled?

I think they were setting this up to be a Nickelodeon movie and then something went badly wrong because they were going to be like, it's funny.

there's a doctor brother and a shoe brother.

And wouldn't it be funny if they got hypnotized and had to swap lives?

The street life of

Spader and Spader.

And then the one, the shoe brothers, like, I'm doing surgery.

I don't want to do this.

And then the doctor brothers in the shoe store, and he's like, well, I can sell you shoes.

It's sexual.

But you know what?

I think you're right because even the opening title sequence, like the Jack's back is written in a fun font.

It's not written in like Jack's back.

It's like, Jack's back, banana.

You also understand, like, what is Jack's back?

There's, like, there's Jack

Jack.

They talk about Jack the Ripper, obviously, Jack the Ripper, but also second Spader is back in town.

There's too many competing elements that are the same bit or game.

You know what else it could be?

Remember the movie Jack?

Yeah, it was Robin Williams.

So that's a little boy who's in a big man's body.

Can I tell you something about Robin Williams?

Just something fun.

Don't give him an applause break for that.

Do you have the scene where Spader's in his brother's apartment?

I do.

I want to show you one thing before this break.

Did you guys notice this?

The My Buddy doll.

Oh, wow.

There's a My Buddy doll in the cop office.

And I was like, what is that?

Do you want to tell,

is it a My Buddy?

Yes, it is.

The striped shirt.

Do you want to tell Lisa what a My Buddy is in your relationship to it?

This is something you fucked when you were a kid.

Oddly, more disturbing.

It fucked you.

Yep.

My buddy, my buddy.

I asked.

My buddy and me.

Because wherever I go, he goes to my buddy.

Is that why 50 Cent made a song like that?

It's a joke?

Because you know the 50 Cent song that's like, my buddy, my buddy, wherever I go, he goes.

It's It's about a gun.

Oh wow.

Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah, so isn't it so crazy the difference between like a cool girl and like guys who are not cool

I begged my parents for my buddy because I had no friends on my block or anybody to hang out with and I just wanted to have a buddy.

Now don't you feel stupid?

I feel bad.

And Paul, I want to tell you something.

I had a Susie stretch.

Did you guys have this, or was it just like a bad Canada toy?

Whoa, I want to know.

She was a little bit.

She was like a stretch Armstrong type of the, like, you could pull the.

She was a doll, but she had, like,

accordion arms.

So, like, when she was in a resting place, she was like this.

A resting place?

Yeah.

Did she come with a coffin?

Yeah, like.

Bring me to my resting place.

Kate, you can.

Heavy doll comes with a wooden coffin and shovel.

Stiff as a board in a resting place

a chisel and a block of granite make her headstone

That would have been more fun than what she's oh my god She her shoes were like secretly slippers and so she's this big She's like a baby basically right and so I could wear her shoes like feet like shoes I could slip my feet into her feet and I could put my hands into her hands and then I'd stretch her up big like this and she'd be the same size as me but we would be face to face fucking walking around the house together.

This is terrifying.

Okay.

This is honest to God.

What are you talking about?

I still

see stretch.

Is that how it's supposed to be played with?

Or that's just what you were doing?

I don't, I didn't know how else to play with her, and I can still remember her like hard plastic head against my head.

Whoa, I don't like it.

I don't want to.

I don't.

Oh, it's on it.

Okay, it's on it.

There she is.

How about YouTube for a commercial?

Yeah, commercial.

Right there, right there.

It's 1995.

Yes, yes.

All of our dreams have come true.

Full screen.

Really stretches.

And when nighttime falls and your dance is complete, good night, Susie stretches.

Susie stretches.

What?

New protewin.

What?

Holy

shit.

Holy shit.

I mean, what's just, and I don't know if you remember this, but what's just abundantly clear is it just looks like she's going down on every little girl.

It just looks like you fastened her head to your cross.

This girl was too tall.

So you could do parts.

She's like, hey, she sizes her up.

And you have to be a little bit more.

That is more scary than anything that we saw in this movie.

I would believe Susie Stretch is Jack the Ripper more than

another girl has has been stretched in Los Angeles.

Wow.

Wow.

Lieutenant, we found her.

She was stretched.

Stretched to death.

Let's go out to the crowd and talk to y'all.

What do you got?

All right.

Michael here recommended this movie.

He's in the audience tonight.

If you have a question, Michael, I'll come to you, obviously, as well.

But all right.

Tim, I'm going back to you.

All right, what do you got?

So with the killer, it's Jack's back.

He's copycatting Jack the Ripper.

They're all about, it's got to be tonight.

It's got to be in her house.

It's got to be a pregnant woman.

That's the final murder.

He goes to the house.

He murders her like his opus is complete.

The headline came true.

He's got all the glory he needs.

Why does he go kill Hermione?

Yeah, like, why does he want to kill the female doctor that Spader is running around with in her BMW?

Like, why?

Why?

Because he's just, I think, creeping on her.

Like, that's who's watching her through the window.

Oh, is she onto him or something?

Oh, I don't.

Oh, I don't know.

I don't think so.

Also, when he killed the woman that had just gotten the abortion, she technically wasn't pregnant anymore.

I just wanna, can I just...

Now hang on.

Now hang on.

Well,

actually,

what makes sense is Mary Kelly, the Ripper's final victim, was not pregnant at the time of the murder.

Oh, okay.

It's a popular claim.

Oh.

But there's no historical documents to prove that she was pregnant.

Oh, okay.

So this movie is...

Why do you have so much?

So much, frankly, gross information about.

It's my hobby.

My hobby is...

How come all those papers are printed out from your blog?

They're just photocopies of my writings.

These are my writings.

Yes.

Hi, what's your name?

And what's your question?

I'm David.

My theory is in the scene where he's getting hypnotized, the second half of that scene is him experiencing what happened to his brother, sliding back into that moment before

he's being killed.

That's real.

But the first portion of that is something that is totally different.

It's him,

unbeknownst to everybody else, when he was like running with the Latin kings, you know, when he was younger,

he came into like the habit of auto robotic asphyxiation.

So in that first part, he's

like, what's going on?

Let him cook, Dave.

Let him cook.

So when he's slipping back into that memory, he's like, hold up.

This is kind of working for me.

So he's in that moment where his brother's getting choked out and he's like getting off on it.

And he's actually, that's his O-face.

He's coming as he's getting hypnotized.

And then after he comes, he slips back into the scene and then he experiences the death of his brother.

I think you're 100% right on.

Can you come here?

What do you guys think?

David, please come to every show and tell us which scene contained that actor's O-face.

Our O-Face correspondent, David.

Yes, hi.

What's your name?

What's your question?

Corey.

I think more attention needs to be paid on when he grabbed her by the hair at the end and she went flying.

Yes.

Like into the pillows.

Because I were around that like three times.

Like, why does he have super strength?

He is an old man.

And I'm saying that as an old man because I bet if I looked it up, the actor playing Sydney is younger than I am currently.

When shooting this movie would be my guess based on that time I looked up Wilford Brimley in a movie we did and he was one year older than me at the time

which I have not recovered from I believe Danny Glover is 44 in the first lethal weapon where he's too old for this shit yeah that's a very disturbing fact uh and he also the age was a different time back then uh all right michael you're over here where are you yeah all right so michael's the one who brought it to us thank you michael for recommending this movie.

I want to make sure that you get a chance to offer up any thoughts.

Thank you, Paul.

I just want to give a shout out to my brother-in-law, Chris, who I watched this movie with last March.

I have.

Are you guys identical?

No.

Brother-in-law.

Brother-in-law.

That's true.

Could be pop.

But their fingerprints do match.

Weird.

Don't ask my sister how she figured that out.

That's right, Michael.

You don't take shit from these idiots.

That's right.

They've been acting crazy all night.

Real quick.

Did you notice what the name of the shoe store was, Jason?

What was it?

Second Soul.

Oh, okay.

Because he's the second soul of Prime Spare.

Got it.

Why?

Honestly, this audience sucks.

I am going to believe, I am going to believe that this movie did not have the budget to do that.

And there is an actual clothing, this shoe store called Impsoul because it's like your business shoe and then your casual shoe.

All right, we'll look up that at one point.

Okay, so real question.

When Dark Spader is flashing back during the hypnosis when he zooms up into the hypnotist's house.

Yes, when he's having his orgasm scene?

When Robert Ricardo Ricardo is hanging with his mom in a man

in a mansion somewhere?

Yeah.

He looks like, it looks as though Spader has arrived at like a 1950s mansion

in the middle of the night.

Robert Ricardo is wearing like a dress, like a

smoking jacket or something.

I was perplexed.

So he flashes back and sees through Prime Spader's eyes the doctor winking at him from behind the curtain while he's being strung up so is he seeing it from a third person specific no that's what his brother saw he's seeing it through his brother's eyes okay thank you so he's just seeing more of the event now including the fact that sydney the creepy doctor was there wearing sockinies which spader bad spader is like fuck i shoes are my super yeah so that So that means two things.

That means two things.

One, that Prime Spader took the time to check out the shoes that he was wearing and that he knew that Sidney was behind the murder.

Behind the curtain before he died?

Well, that's the thing he could have said.

I know it's not you.

Let me down.

So I don't think it was a technical murder.

What?

Because he knew and he didn't let on that he knew.

So wait, you want justice for Jack?

Yeah.

Jack was forced to kill.

Jack is forced to kill.

Okay, finally, I'm going to vindicate you a little bit.

Jack the Ripper was a bad guy and Jack was a murderer.

Don't point at me.

I'm not Jack.

However, I think that you were correct that they were working together in a Palpatine Anakin,

but it was about the abortions.

He knew that he was going out and doing the abortions and saying good work.

No, no, no.

No.

Come up here and fight me.

Because the guy, the Christmas Carol man, who is the bad, grumpy man who works at the clinic the actual Jack the Ripper copycat killer.

Yeah, he said think of your unborn child like he was like a pro-life he's two pro-life I agree.

Yeah, and then the other guy did the abortion giver was also not a good guy because he was just doing it for money on the side The only good guy that would give you an abortion that would actually feel good would be spader spader prime Spader prime.

Yeah, I think I mean I did kind of want bad spader to like impersonate his brother at some point and try and do doctor stuff.

Yeah.

That would have been cool.

Hi, what's your name?

Dominique.

Okay, what's your question?

Well, I think I can put it all together.

Wow, I love this.

So I love this.

The psychiatrist actually also hypnotized the main doctor of the clinic.

Okay.

And he was influencing Jack.

the other medical guy.

Okay.

And so they were kind of working together.

Wait, including the hypnotist?

So you think

they're all together?

It doesn't make any other sense for him to get so mad when he's like, you know who did it.

And then he like pulls out the gun and is about to shoot him.

Yeah, well, that's.

I thought that too, because that's when I thought the movie was trying to tell us.

And I do think the movie is trying to obfuscate things more.

I felt like the moment when Robert Picardo is reaching to the gun and saying, you think you know, is meant to make us feel like, oh, maybe it's him?

That's what I thought.

I thought it too.

So, all right, so what we're saying is Robert Picardo is the...

is the main villain.

He is hypnotizing people to go out and do his bidding.

So they don't even know.

That's why the the guy's got dark skins.

I'm sorry, and he lives with his mother,

Dominique.

I'm not sure.

I don't know if that's it.

I mean, if they're all

all the murderers live with their moms, is what we heard.

Yeah, and he's hypnotized his mom to keep paying the mortgage and buying him the cereal he likes.

I would love it.

I would love it if it's revealed that they are.

Mom, I said, give me a Sally stretch, not a my buddy.

Yes, okay.

Yes, what's your question?

So I'm Michael number two.

I'm an anesthesiologist, and I just wanted to bring up three things that are accurate in the movie.

Short white coats for medical students.

Second, attendings, when you're going through that whole process, you don't work for them.

They can't fire you.

They kind of own you, and you're like basically like slave labor for them.

And if you told one of them to fuck off, they would probably try to murder you in your sleep, like Hermione.

And lastly,

is a Latino man, a Latino mother waking up in her 70s to see if you're okay in the middle of the night?

Completely accurate, especially in Los Angeles.

Wow.

Well, now we've really tied it all together.

I mean, there's nothing else to say.

Wow, wow, wow.

He's just getting up in the middle of the night to do some hypnotizing.

You've got to hypnotize me.

What a crazy thing to show up in the middle of the night.

You just got to hypnotize me.

Don't make me think I'm a chicken.

Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion.

It is now time for second opinions.

Hi, my name is Stephanie.

Hey.

Okay.

Some folks are dumb.

They don't know real hard.

Stars, they give one or two.

Amazon asks, how good was this film?

Ooh, they say the fans are fools.

No,

it ain't three.

It ain't three.

It ain't even number four.

It ain't three.

It ain't three.

I'll only give it five stars.

Yes, amazing.

Great job.

Well, well, well.

While our singers were singing, I was able to do some research and I found out indeed Second Soul is a shoe store that does exist for runners

in LA?

It doesn't matter who.

It doesn't make a difference.

Yeah, there we go.

But it probably wasn't L.A.

Yeah, there we go.

Let me give you this here.

The average rating of this movie is 4.6 out of 5 stars.

76 reviews are five-star reviews.

Only 2% are one-star.

And this will start off with Gov.

Gov writes: why do people in the 80s hate curtains?

Five stars.

True.

True.

Very true.

Harold wrote, James Fader, as a blonde in this walked so Carmy from the bear could run.

Five stars.

Interesting.

They're both kind of jacked little guys.

Yeah.

And they do kind of do like, just like, like weird stuff with their tongues sometimes.

Don't they kind of go like

sometimes?

You got some solid yes.

Did they both do a lizard?

I don't know.

I was noticing what James Vader was doing with his tongue.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Very cool.

Very

holy one.

A couple other people noticed it as well.

You might want to start a little club.

From a review that it says reviewed in Japan in 2019.

James Svader.

I am good at acting.

I watched it.

The story itself was different from my imagination, looking at the jacket.

And it was quite interesting.

It may be because I'm dull, but I didn't know the true culprit until the end, and I was pounding the floor watching it.

There's no good things in movies right now.

There were no Japanese subtitles or dubbing.

But I'm not good at English.

I enjoyed it.

It's a movie.

I want to watch it.

I was glad to watch it.

Five Five stars.

Incredible.

That made more sense than anything Manzuchas has said this entire show.

How dare you?

Sorry.

How dare you?

Because my English isn't so good.

No, your English is perfect.

Your ideas are stupid and bad.

How dare you?

Now,

I did ask somebody about this film.

I told

Miss June Diane Rayfield, I said, the movie that we are doing.

She said, please forgive.

she's wearing a wig she's in full costume she's in a period piece show um i i gave her the title and the year

and i said you tell us what it's about

hi how did this good made listeners and hi people of largo paul and jason told me that this movie's called jack's back jack's back and that and they asked if i could figure out what the movie was about just based on the title alone and the year which is 1988.

Now, of course, initially, I thought, oh, it's probably about a dad named Jack who

dies early, too soon,

and

every winter comes back as a snowman.

And

the moral being, snow dad is better than no dad.

But then that sounded too familiar and too reminiscent of a different movie.

So I don't think it's that.

I think Jack

is Jack of Jack and Jill.

And

he's a killer doll.

He's a killer doll.

And he was thrown away

when his owner, sort of like Andy and Toy Story, was coming of age.

He was discarded rather rudely and unceremoniously.

And he's back.

He's back.

He's never forgotten what's happened.

And he's ready to seek revenge.

Jack's back.

Great.

I would watch that.

Jack's back.

I can't believe you got such a hot woman to do this stupid show.

Oh, any final thoughts?

Do you have any of the other scenes that have music in them, the saxophone?

I might.

There was just some next-level 80s saxophone stuff while Spader's like sitting on his porch petting a cat.

Oh, in between shifts at second soul.

I did want to talk about this scene.

This is the one scene before we go that I think is worthy of chatting about.

Isn't it a little late?

This is an emergency.

May we come in?

I'm not really dressed.

It's okay.

We're police officers.

Not a lot's changed, LA.

This scene pissed me off, but I also, I'm like at odds with myself because I also was the same person who was so mad that he jangled the gate when she was about to take her bra off.

So I was like, I was looking forward to seeing tits, and then later I was like, those cops are so rude.

It seems that the cops are into being perves.

Like, they are like.

Yeah, man, they're creeps.

They're triggered happy creeps all right well we don't have to be that rude about them i mean people said a lot of bad things about jack the ripper oh god

and two of them we know are not true um

any final thoughts uh on the film any final anything i loved the movie and i love you guys and i'm glad you made me watch it so happy that you're here it's so great i had a blast i I you know, we've had to watch so, so many bad movies that are truly bad in a slog.

This was a delight.

Not once did I have a note that was like, how is there still 45 minutes left?

I more was like, it's over already.

I literally sat down.

I was like for the soundtrack.

I sat down.

I sat down.

I was like, I'll watch 30 minutes.

I'll get this out of the way.

And then I'll watch some more later.

I watched the whole thing.

I didn't move.

I didn't move.

I was sad I hadn't seen it when it came out, and I was 16 years old.

I'm surprised you like it so much because didn't you keep calling it like Loof Glalias?

Wait, Wait, what?

Loof glanias?

Loof glarious.

Loof glanius.

Leclanius.

Loop proofgrisque.

Laborious.

Loquacious.

Lugubrious?

Lugubrious.

Loof.

Loof.

Loofgurius.

Loof goo.

Looferigno grainius.

Loof gralius.

Loof granius.

Loof granius.

Well, that's the shit.

Loofless glanius.

It's a picture of Lisa, and it just says says Loof Gralius, question mark.

Loof Galius.

Luf Erig's disease.

And that's your,

or that's as if you're Hermione and that's a spell.

Yes.

Loof Gralius.

Lisph Grayus.

That is the shirt.

All right.

Thank you, everybody.

Good night.

We love you, April.

April, April, April, April, April, April, April, April,

Thank you so much, everybody.

That's really nice of you.

Thank you so much.

Give it for Lisa.

Thank you, everybody.

Thanks for having me.

I love you guys.

It's you, LA.

Thanks again to the hilarious Lisa Gilroy for filling in for June, and a huge thank you to our pals at Largo, Flanny, Griffey, Alec in the booth, and our recording engineer, Brendan Burns.

We'll be back in Los Angeles at Largo for two shows on October 22nd and 23rd.

So go to hdtgm.com to get your tickets because they will sell out.

Now, our t-shirt for this show is pretty special.

It says Lufrealius with a graphic of Lisa as Hermione casting a spell.

To get this design on a shirt or a sticker or a mug or many other types of products, just click on the merch link at hdtgm.com.

And as always, if you have a correction or omission for this episode, leave me a voicemail at 619-PAULASK or write a comment on our Discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM, and I'll respond to your messages next week on Last Looks.

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