A DAY WITH BROOKE BURKE

Hey guys, so before you listen to today's episode with my super special guest, Brooke Burke, I want to give you a little bit of the behind the scenes of this amazing experience.

I had been wanting to interview Brooke for a very long time

because

she is 1 million percent a woman that inspires me so, so much.

I have been following her work forever.

She motivates me.

I love, love her energy.

And I really, really was dying to get her on the show.

So, first and foremost, I want to thank her manager, Sean Lashley, for being so incredibly nice and responsive, and connecting us and helping make this happen.

Thank you so much.

You're incredible.

So, Brooke invited me

through Sean, if I wanted to actually go spend the day at her home/slash

fabulous wellness sanctuary and actually take one of her classes and and see how she lives and and talk about her lifestyle and actually experience what she does and I was so honored and so humbled by the invitation because

yeah she transformed her to die for backyard into this wellness yoga center and you guys definitely should go to my social media channels and look at the videos because it's almost impossible to describe the beauty of the place and how special it is.

So I highly, highly recommend you listen to the episode and go watch all the videos of everything that she showed us.

This is 1 million percent a very interactive episode.

And this is also the core of Cat on the Loose.

I try to bring real life places, real life experiences where we live, where we work, where we interact with people.

And this was incredible to me because she didn't know me.

So she took a chance.

She was like, okay, invite this girl, welcome her into my home.

So one, one million percent, I was so, so honored to have this opportunity.

So, anyhow, we show up at her house 9:30 in the morning on a Sunday,

and she comes and opens the door herself.

Very real, very raw.

Obviously, her gorgeous self, wearing her workout clothes, no makeup on, gave me a huge hug, and immediately I felt her energy.

She's like the sunshine when she walks into a room.

And the way she welcomed me, and I brought one of my dear, dear friends as co-host, Maj de Bahamin, owner and CEO of Private Luxury Concierge Services.

She's a dear friend, and she also has this great, great vibe about her.

And the way Brooke welcomed us, it was just something literally that it's hard to explain.

So, anyways, we spent the entire day there, did one of her yoga/slash body toning workout classes.

She kicked our ass with a fabulous group of people, men and women.

We did a sound bath class by Brooke as well.

And we spent the whole day around her property.

She built this beautiful tree house, a maze shaped like a heart.

She has this tiki tent.

There's like so much that we talked about.

And again, you guys have to see the videos.

And it turned out for me to be so much more than just a podcast episode.

It was such an emotional experience.

It was a spiritual experience.

Obviously, I made an incredible, incredible new friend in Brooke.

I know we're going to do so many more projects together.

It was really,

I'm not exaggerating, one of the best and most special days in my entire life.

And I get very emotional and I was very emotional the entire day because she was one million, billion, trillion percent so much more than I could have hoped and expected.

And I am forever, forever grateful.

And I really hope you guys enjoyed the episode.

If you don't know her work,

please go follow her, Brooke Burke, on Instagram, because she's definitely a wellness guru she spreads so much love and joy and happiness her workouts are so much more than just oh let's have the perfect summer body her workouts really touch your heart your mind and your soul other than than helping you you get a better the better body you can possibly achieve for yourself but she's so so much more than um just like a trainer you guys have to see it to believe it and i really really hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did.

And please go look at the videos on Katzamudo, my Instagram, the podcast Instagram, RioCat on the Loose.

They're on YouTube.

I'm putting them all over my social media channels because this was really, really a truly, truly wonderful day.

And I hope you guys enjoy it.

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Okay, girlies and guys out there, I have to say, I am very emotional.

This has been an incredible, incredible few hours with this woman that I admire so so much.

Let me interview her first and foremost.

Hi, Brooke.

Brooke Burke.

Thank you.

I don't even know how to describe you because you are multi-talented.

You are an actor, TV personality, entrepreneur.

you are a mother now i know that you're a friend yeah you are i am a friend i love that that might be the most important thing you said yeah a uniter of women you're incredible you're a fitness guru so first of all thank you with all my heart because you opened up your home to us to me and my friend majde and you don't even know us so i have to say it means the world to me thank you thank you thank you thank you for doing this thank you for coming for trusting me you know it's not easy when i open open an invitation and I invite women to come and work out.

You came without fear.

You trusted me.

I'm happy to have you in my home.

And I don't think I could have described what we experienced today to you.

You needed to come and bury yourself in it and immerse yourself in it.

So thank you.

And we were saying the core of my podcast, and I keep saying that, it's not a studio podcast.

It's not a perfect podcast.

I insist on making an organic podcast because this is what I want to show people, like how we are in real life and i think that's what my audience uh loves to see and in in today in your case it doesn't get more organic than this because this is your real home you guys have to go to my social media channels youtube to see the videos because you're actually allowing us you're like go for it film anything you want film your workout class i know how many people can't get here and one of the reasons why i open up my life so completely is because I built it to share it with everyone.

That's why we do zoom and why we do digital connections because there's so many people that want a little sneak peek that might not be able to be here in person because we create this digital opportunity.

So I love it.

And this is what we are.

So I have to say thank you, Maj, my bestie.

She's a major, major businesswoman, executive, owner of Prevelli.

Thank you for supporting the podcast.

Thank you for coming with me to do this with Brooke.

Before I ask you the 10 billion questions we have, I think we would need like five hours to cover all the questions that we have.

But I want to say that I was an

me personally as a woman, I always try to find women that inspire me to interview.

I don't want to just interview whoever.

So I try to like handpick.

So I've been after you for a long time.

I, me, Kat, I look at your work and it inspires me.

I think your journey is incredible.

I think your energy is amazing.

But we never know how the person is going to be when we meet them.

We were talking about that coming here.

How are we doing?

Oh my God.

And the minute we saw you, we you know you feel this kind of like i think i know you i think we're already besties because you have the most natural and i'm not kidding you guys and i'm not trying to kiss her she's not paying me to say this

you have the most insane real

you're real thank you you're real you know it's it's it's kind of like at this point in life this is me you know and i remember the days you know being in the industry where you're to do something like this and have it recorded we're like oh my god i need a hairdresser i need my makeup i need full glam, I need my like,

no, this is just me

and my home, and here we are sharing something that matters, that's collective energy, that's an opportunity to just get to know ourselves better, not just each other, but even ourselves.

And having you in class today, like to do nothing but just be in nature and experience something different is

really what inspires me too.

So

super real.

So let's start the journey from the beginning and then we'll come all the way to your classes and what you do today

when i told people that i was going to interview you obviously we were usually i'm used to getting 200 250 300 questions for my guests but we got over 500 when i said it was you so in all honesty we didn't even have time to go through all of them because you are very loved and and marsh said the same thing when we post and we say we're gonna talk to brooke people are like wow i want to hear a chance to say so can you give us

yeah

that,

right?

Because you've been in this industry forever.

Can you give us a little bit of the background for people that don't follow your work, that don't even know that now you're working with wellness?

Let's go back to the TV days a little bit.

Are you game?

Yeah, no,

I'm going to see how I can fast track this.

It's been a real journey.

It's been a pivot.

It's been a lot of things.

I don't know, I guess if I could give you a two-minute summary.

Started out as a model.

I was never quite tall enough to really make it as a model.

I was that girl that was always stretching and trying to pretend like I was 5'8 and faking it all the way.

But I did a little bit of

kind of body work, health and wellness space in the modeling world.

segued that into commercial work, studied broadcast journalism.

I always wanted to be a businesswoman.

I studied

business advertising.

I really thought that was my avenue and accidentally got into the modeling industry, started doing commercials, and then went on my first big audition for entertainment to host Wild On.

I didn't know the show.

I didn't have any experience.

I was very green.

I was still in school.

I took that one meeting.

Some of the best advice that was ever given to me was like, take that meeting.

And it was super casual.

I like showed up in a pair of jeans and wasn't

manifesting anything at that time in my life.

And I ended up getting this gig to host a show back in the day called Wild On.

That took me around the world to 40 countries.

It was amazing.

Oh, cool.

And And I always loved to travel.

I always had a zest for life.

So I kind of learned that gig on the road.

Got pregnant as soon as I signed my deal with E.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

And I was hired to be the bikini girl on the road hosting this really sexy television.

Seriously, this really sexy television show.

Did they fire you?

Well, they couldn't.

Remember, like at that time, being a woman, in the entertainment business, you could not support,

you know, the evolution of life.

So I remember with my tail between my legs going into my executive producer's office, being young inexperienced and I just signed the gig of my lifetime and I had to walk in there and go guys I'm gonna throw a crowball at you but it's gonna be okay

blah blah blah they supported it I took my daughter on the road and we did

we did 40 countries in two years together

new mom a zest for life totally adventurous had my baby, brought my baby with me.

I was crazy looking back at it now, but we did it.

And then that slowly transitioned to some other gigs.

I hosted Rockstar, then I went on to dance and dancing with the stars.

Yeah, we have to talk about that.

Crazy.

A lot of questions.

If you're okay,

again, we didn't plan anything like always.

We don't script.

If we ask anything, we don't want to talk about just like I don't talk about pretty much.

But obviously, a lot of questions about Dancing with the Stars because, number one, you won Dancing with the Stars.

You're a winner.

That's crazy, crazy hard.

And it was back then when it was like, I I think the top show on TV or was it?

I mean, there was a season that only had 20 million viewers.

It was like American Idol, if we can go back in time.

There were two like great shows, Bachelor.

It was terrifying, challenging, insightful, life-changing.

It was basically all the life lessons crammed into the ballroom.

And I never thought I...

could win.

I never thought I would win.

I didn't go in there insecure.

I just was on a mission as a host to be a competitor so that I could sort of open up my life

to a different audience.

You know, as a host, which I love doing live television, you sort of have a script, you're limited, it's live.

You know, you're following a script.

This was a real opportunity to sort of show up really vulnerable and revealing.

And I had no idea how hard it would be.

I had no idea how terrifying it would be.

Did you have the dancing background at all?

I never studied dance.

I love to dance and I have rhythm, but I also, as far as choreography and skill and talent goes,

not at all.

So I,

as a testament to commitment, I think I worked harder.

I think I could say that without insulting anyone.

I think I probably worked harder than anyone else because it was seven days a week.

I had a new baby.

I had had my son, my third child,

who was three months old.

I was in a hormonal roller coaster.

I didn't have a dance background.

I was scared shitless.

But I showed up every day and worked really hard and found faith in my own body.

And I learned how to surrender.

I learned how to surrender to fear.

I learned how to

count on the experience and the time that I put in and then just sort of let everything go.

And your partner was Derek Hugh, and he's an incredible artist, right?

He's an amazing artist.

He's an incredible artist.

He was in his early 20s.

I always teased him because he was like

this little punk at the time.

He hadn't won a Miraball trophy yet.

I didn't know shit about shit and about dancing.

And together we were just like, you know what?

We're committed.

We're going to dive into this.

We're going to give it all we've got.

We're going to outwork everyone and we're going to just tell our story.

Like, that's what dance is, really.

It's a narrative with your body, right?

It's an intimate dancing story.

Anyway, it was amazing that I made it as far as I did, and even more amazing that I won.

All you want.

And one of the greatest accomplishments ever.

And not because it was like a dance competition show, because it showed me seven days a week in three months, you you can learn how to do anything.

Holy if you put your mind into it, right?

I mean, honestly, think about us as women.

How many things we're like, oh, I'd love to go take that class.

Oh, I'd love to get a culinary degree.

Oh, one day I'm going to go to Africa.

Oh, once upon a time.

But we don't.

Right.

Because we think we can't.

Yes.

Or there's all these things standing in our way.

I had four children.

Wow.

I was in a seven-day-a-week commitment to this show where life sort of stopped and stood still.

And I did it.

So,

major.

Yeah.

Chai was three months old, so I was bringing my baby with me.

Yeah, it was crazy.

Well, obviously, you're living proof, and this is one of the things that I admire about you so much that you're insanely disciplined.

You put your mind into something and you get it done.

And this is what we're trying to tell people out there.

Because, like we were saying a little bit, because before we started the podcast, many times now with social media, it's multiplied by millions and millions and millions.

People out there see a celebrity, like they see you on TV, and yeah, the TV only shows the beautiful part, right?

The dress and the makeup, and the hair.

They don't see the sweat and tears and the rehearsal and the shit and the crack.

We wish life was a dress.

Right, right.

Yeah, like you said, they all show up, like, hi, look at me, I'm perfect.

But so, but yeah, people have this image many times of celebrities.

Oh, this is unattainable.

She's rich, she has 10 million nannies, she doesn't have to do anything, it's easy for her.

But it's not like that, right?

You gotta put a lot of work.

It's not like that.

It's not like that.

And I celebrate the woman whose life is like that too, by the way.

Like, I come into my connection with women with no judgment.

Like, I don't care what it takes to run your life and raise your family.

You got to do it with freedom and without judgment.

For me, it's not like that.

And it's that story and that possibility that...

Oh, is that my mom?

Oh, my mom's calling me.

Sorry, mom.

She'll call back.

I love my mom.

It starts with my mom.

I have an amazing mom.

It's not like that, but I have to deal with that, you know, and I have have to deal with that in the industry, all the criticism.

And I don't even lean into it.

You know what I mean?

Like, I know what works for me and my family here.

And I believe in hard work and grit and hustle.

And I also believe in dreams, you know, and I believe in making those commitments to yourself as a woman.

I did more as a mother than I did before I was a mom.

And I work with so many different women, young women, older women, women that are redesigning their life, or Billy, that's my other girl.

That's my other dog.

Women that are redesigning their life.

Women that are

stuck in the what now, the shoulda, coulda, would have.

Just do it.

Just do it.

We're laughing because her dog is like walking around, dancing around.

I love it more.

So, you win dancing with the stars.

Then they made you the invitation to be the host of the show.

Right after you went to the show.

They were casting the host and they interviewed and auditioned every single female host.

Every single female woman in the industry who wasn't a host.

I'm talking country music artists to host to

athletes.

I mean, you name it.

Everybody wanted this gig because it was the most watched on television.

It was agency.

It was glamorous.

You got to dress up like

live.

And your dresses, I have to make a parenthesis.

I rarely watch TV, but back then I used to watch more TV because I was married.

I had free time and money.

And now I don't.

Now I'm like the broke artist.

But anyhow, I used to watch it and I I used to like mostly because of the dresses it was because it was like a dream it was like name

the dresses on this woman she's so fucking it was a dream gig to be a princess thank you and the bomber I had a great stylist

I have diamonds and stilettos it was in fashion insane I was like Cinderella I was like Cinderella yeah um but I but I I will keep it real and share that everybody auditioned for this gig and because I had one and because I was a host

the the executive team and producers said you know you don't need to audition we know who you are and we know your skill set and I thought I want to audition and they're like wait what and I said no I want to audition really I want to audition because I know what in my business it's a chemistry test right so you might be the greatest podcaster of all time so if I'm producing a podcast show

What if all of a sudden I meet somebody else and my whole creative brain shifts as a producer?

I kind of knew that in the producer world, the behind the scenes world of making a television deal.

So I said, I want to audition, and they were like, why, Brooke?

You don't really need to do that.

And I said, I want to audition so that you see what Tom and I look like on camera and it's not beneath me.

And just let me audition.

I don't think I would have got the gig if I did an audition.

Really?

Yeah.

Because it was that moment of being on tape with a partner

and bringing that energy to life.

And Tom Bergeron was an unbelievable partner, no ego.

He was so wise and seasoned and talented.

And he really gave me a space to come in and showcase my own talents you and i were talking about that earlier not everybody knows how to be a partner a lot of women in our world don't know how to be a partner unfortunately there's a lot of ego there's a lot of competition

especially on television right we growing up in this business i grew up in this business uh on and off yeah and to this day it breaks my heart how competitive we were talking about that It's mostly, I think, women, and I hate saying that, it breaks my heart to say that.

I think they're worse than men.

I don't know if you agree with me.

They look at each other constantly as competition.

Like, why does she get that?

Why did I like, as opposed to like, let's unite forces.

If a job is good for us, because it's yours.

If a job is good for me, it's because it's mine.

And maybe something is good for both of us.

But it breaks my heart how they're always like on each other's throats as opposed to like, you know, joining forces.

I'm glad you say that because what's ours is ours.

But I, you know, I really do feel like we, for me, like in my my faith, I ask, I pray, I manifest what's in my divine right, right?

So I want what's mine.

I don't want what's not mine.

I don't want what's somebody else's.

But I do believe in the power of collective energy.

And you're much younger than we are, but what I would tell you and I would tell my own daughters, no,

there's power when you realize that we're buttered together, that we raise our average, and that collective energy will shift you into a more powerful space.

I know that to be true.

That's why I work with women.

That's why I believe in this she tribe.

That's why I love the sisterhood circle.

I try to teach that to my daughters.

It's like we're all here for a moment, right?

And we're all,

I think, in charge of who comes in and out of our lives and editing our lives and surrounding ourselves with people who are positive, that want what's in our divine right, that want what's best for us, that celebrate us.

I celebrate my friends.

I celebrate other women.

I celebrate

possibilities, power, happiness, change.

Like, I celebrate all of these energies, and

I have too much to do then to compete with

my life.

No, 1 million percent.

I agree with you, and that's how I live my life.

I just want like have you always been like that?

Yes, because I feel if I can leave a legacy behind, I want to be able.

Everything I do, every no matter what kind of work I do, is about empowering women.

And we're going to get there because we're going to talk about social media and how it's been affecting people.

But even before social media, I think I have to send, like, you know, something

good because we have the communication channels open.

So, in a way, I feel it's my obligation.

Because I know there are a lot of young girls that look at our work, that look at our social media, a lot of women out there who are, because I was in an abusive marriage

for 14 years.

And I feel now maybe there is somebody out there who is in a position that I was, and they don't know how to, you know, gain forces and get out.

So, I feel I need to keep sending the message of positivity, and we are stronger together.

I think you're right.

You know, you grew up in the entertainment business.

I started my career in the entertainment business, and then I shifted into this wellness space.

And sometimes people are like, How did that happen?

And why did that happen?

And very similar to what you're saying, for me, it's an act of service.

So, for me, I feel A, I feel called to do it, and I love it, but I also feel like it's sort of a gift and it's a give back for me with other women and in doing that this year I'm really focusing on and I'm actually writing a workshop

called Soul Service and it's about being in service to ourselves so in being if you can just entertain this concept for a minute we can explore this but if you entertain the possibility of being in service to yourself because we're in service to others especially as women all the time I'm a mom I'm always serving I'm always giving my dogs it's my man it's my kids it's everybody, it's my students, it's every single person that comes into my life.

Everybody's tapping a little bit of your life force, right?

So I like being in service.

It's my own problem.

I love it.

But when we learn how to be in service to ourselves, how to serve ourselves, how to serve our soul, our spirit, our self-care, how to fill our own cup up, I'm like twice the superhero.

Oh, yeah.

It's life-changing.

But I didn't know that as a young girl.

Oh, me and Niko.

I didn't know the value of being in service to myself.

So like when I teach yoga, I thank everyone for allowing me to be it in service to them but then i encourage them and it's invite them

i challenge them to learn how to be in service to themselves like you coming to class today and diving into it and doing something hard it's not easy what we did out there it's freaking hard no it's freaking hard you're in service to yourself to change your body to feed your soul to listen to your heartbeat to slow down change to change to it's freaking hard but when you're done you're like oh i'm so happy i did it because the other side of the window

always say how do you do it every i go because i know it's the other side.

It's the self-care, self-love.

But we're going to get there.

So, but I have to finish this conversation because I know so many people are going to be mad at me if I don't.

So, you did Dancing with the Stars for a few seasons.

I did eight seasons.

Eight seasons.

That's a few years, right?

It was a lot.

We did two seasons a year, so it was almost four or five years.

And then I know the media was all over you when they let you go from the job.

Yeah.

You know, it was unexpected.

It was unexpected.

And I want to talk about it because there's huge lessons in going through this.

I don't mind calling it fired.

People are like, well, your contract was up and it was a renegotiation.

It's very complicated.

For me, in and of itself, I wasn't there anymore.

I was let go, fired, call it what you want.

I never needed to bullshit my way around it with the media.

It is what it is.

I went from having the greatest gig on television, the greatest gig of, well, I guess I would argue that Wild One was pretty cool.

But it was an amazing experience in the ballroom.

And then all of a sudden, in one moment, in an instant, it all went away.

Like,

they said, We're not renewing your parents.

I was driving to school with my kids in the car.

My dressing room was being painted.

Like, we were gearing up for the season.

That's the entertainment business.

And it was sort of like, you could have, I'm like, wait, wait, what?

So it was that moment of,

holy shit, my life just took a hard left.

Deep breath, right?

Now, what do I do?

And I, Billy,

no, I really approached that from a

I'd like to think I'm grounded and I'm spiritual in my process, but I also believe that things come along and rock us and rattle us and pivot for reasons.

And it was a time in my life where I think I needed change.

Would I have loved to continue there?

Yeah, I would be lying if I said that I wasn't, but it was probably time for a shift.

I just finished eight seasons.

It was an amazing run.

and it was time for me to explore other things and I didn't know what I was gonna do to be honest.

When it happens it hurts right especially when it's such a fabulous job high profile you're making good money you're on TV but at the same time because I'm always like that I'm always the optimist I know too much I think maybe things have the cheesy things happen for a reason because maybe other windows are gonna open into your life to bring you to where you are today.

It's the concept we know that's so easy.

Oh when the door closes when okay we know all that but I'm like, fuck, now, yeah, I know, now, like, fuck, I want to stay.

But I have to ask you this tough question.

And if you don't want to answer, but I think everybody asked, and many years later, people still send this question: do you think, or do you know, or do you think it's true that they didn't renew your contract because they wanted to bring a younger woman there?

Because to me, when I heard that rumor, like, they gotta be spar, I swear a lot.

So,

they gotta be fucking kidding me.

I didn't want to believe that.

You know, it's it's interesting dancing with the stars has an audience of grandmas my mom's friends watch dancing with the stars a younger generation maybe not so much unless you're in the ballroom world right athletes big following in the sports world.

I actually think they chose Erin Andrews because she was a sportscaster.

She was on yesterday.

It's married two worlds.

She also had a lot of controversy at that time because of some social media

really

tragic things that were going on, which a network will serve themselves in sort of publicity.

She was in the news a lot.

Could be.

I never really thought about it as a younger person because then you segue after her into Tyra Banks, right?

So what did that look like?

Was that ethnicity?

Was that culture?

I don't know.

There are so many ways to look at it.

Rather than me trying to figure that out,

I brought it back inward and I thought,

okay, now what am I going to do?

And it really allowed me to sort of put the war paint on and roll my sleeves up and go, what am I going to do now?

Am I going to go create a show?

Am I going to go do daytime?

Am I going to start a business?

Am I, am I going to, like, I didn't know what to do.

And it was a really great exercise of exploration and not easy.

It's like starting out in the business.

You hear no 99 times, more than that.

I was lucky that I heard one in 100, but

you really have to have,

you know, guts and have strength and have a backbone and I was really blessed I think that I was grounded in my family and I was grounded in other things that really matter that don't come and go and that don't go away you know what I do in the entertainment business I always loved I love what I do but I had a real foundation that probably saved me or I would have drowned in the

like it happens to a lot of people right like it happens and I get asked that all the time because I while I was married I didn't I barely worked to the point point that I didn't work anymore because my husband didn't want me to work.

So he convinced me to stop doing everything that I loved doing.

So now that I'm back,

I hear people say all the time in Hollywood, like, oh, you know,

they don't hire women over 30, they don't hire women over, there's nothing for me to do.

I don't believe in it because I think we open our own doors.

I don't believe it.

What do you think?

It's a big conversation.

I love the depth of this conversation.

I love the depth of it in these different walks of life.

So please chime in on this too.

I don't believe in that, but I do really, really, really understand the culture of the industry of entertainment.

By that I mean...

I host live television shows and I went from being a sex symbol to being a ballroom princess to now being in my 50s and changing in my life as a woman and embracing it and owning it and really understanding that.

What I know is that I know where my talent lies and those opportunities.

So if there's a new live hot hip live show, it's probably not me.

It's going to be a younger, poppier, probably ethnic, and probably a younger hipper personality.

I don't know that I even...

It's funny that you're asking what I'm thinking now.

I never really equated that to age.

I equated it just to

the person that serves that role best.

And so I've had to really embrace who I am as a woman.

But I also believe in the ebbs and flow of the business.

Meaning, sometimes there's a pause and you can't get arrested, like literally for years.

So what do you do?

Do you go back to the drawing board and go, holy shit, what's going to become of me now?

Or do you just play the pause and do other creative things and then know that it's all coming back around?

So I just have a lot of faith in that.

Same.

But in the meantime, I started other businesses and I really love what I'm doing now.

so you know it's and you're awesome at it thank you awesome at it thank you you're in but our age is a number our age is a number

and if we're gonna fight it as women we're in big trouble i will say that i agree you're in big trouble if you're gonna try to look like that 30 year old woman that you once were you're in big trouble and i think that's a big mistake a lot of women make i think you need to embrace your life and and what you are and live healthy take good care of yourself but yeah you embrace it because we're alive you know it's all about being alive and healthy even your life and the the challenges that you went through in your marriage made you who you are.

So, what do we bring to this table?

Like, who is the woman that I'm bringing to the table today?

Yeah, she's a wiser, more seasoned, I want to say better woman than I brought to the table 10 years ago.

She's a different person.

She's different.

She might not be as much fun.

No,

I feel, no, I, I, I, and I think you are, I can, I think I can speak for both of us.

Well, she's never been married

in lines.

No, this is top secret.

Yeah, I'm 35.

You're 35.

Yeah.

Oh,

I tell you, I've never been happier.

I never felt healthier.

I've never felt more like in tune with my body, my sexuality, my health.

I feel independent, and being independent is empowering.

Like, we kick some ass.

I talk too much about that all the time.

Like, most of our clients in our agency, they're men and they're like, cry babies.

And I'm like, we take care so much more than this man.

Right.

And look at you like like you're running like this business and you're teaching everybody.

I think we're strong.

And that's empowering.

I love that you say that.

And I always hate to repeat myself, but I'm going to remind you.

I'm going to remind you of this concept because we're so strong and we're such badasses and it's such an amazing time to be a woman that there is a bittersweetness to it because we are powerful and because we give and give.

You talk about men.

We are.

It's different though.

But because we give and we give and we give and we give.

We love men, but we are strong.

I love it.

I love it.

Some of the work that I've been doing lately, which I'm going to invite you to, a workshop in the TP, is that we've been really exploring the polarity of masculine and feminine energy.

Oh, yeah.

It's like that is so sun and moon.

It's yin and yang.

And I am obsessed with that because we're all strong.

So we could very easily be misinterpreted for

boss bitch, independence,

you know, ego, all of these things that couldn't be further from the truth.

I don't feel masculine, but i feel strong yeah i've been to i i went on 25 dates last year

we're like oh tell me about that

i'm you know i'm girl it's funny like i got all these feedback like you're you're a masculine energy because she's a boss bitch yeah and i'm like oh my god i need to switch you know The energy.

Okay, guys, hold that thought.

Hold that thought.

Hold that thought.

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Yeah, talk about that.

I have a lot to tell you about this masculine, misinterpreted woman.

Totally, It happens to all of you.

Misread woman.

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We're in such a hurry because this conversation is so good.

That's the amazing thing.

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I'm like, shut up.

Let me record.

No, because this is why I love so much talking to intelligent, powerful, successful women.

Because, you know, you come up with the most important, intelligent, meaningful conversations.

And Majda brought something up that, yes,

we all have been victims.

I don't know if victim is the word, but we all have been in these situations before.

The masculine energy, the feminine energy, and men that cannot handle women that are successful and powerful and doing a lot of things.

So let's talk about, do you want to share what you were saying off camera?

There's so much to share and I love having the question posed from a beautiful 35 year old goddess because I want to be vulnerable and humanize this and saying, you know, during the commercial break, you were saying that it's insulting and we're often judged as powerful women.

And I could remember doing a really deep dive in my own personal exploration during my second marriage where I was constantly hearing, you're masculine, you're masculine, you're masculine.

And then the other little voice that was coming even from the outside was, God, it must be really hard to be married to Brooke Burke.

And I kept thinking, that's really fucked up.

Like, what do you mean it must be?

This could be fabulous.

Like, what do you mean it must be really hard?

And it was this misunderstanding and this misconception that an independent, it's my opinion, and I think we all are probably in the same space, an independent, strong woman is often misinterpreted, misunderstood, right?

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I

didn't know it while I was in that time of during that time of my life, but I have explored and dissected and really realized that the most

divine space for a woman to be in and her divine feminine energy is a beautiful balance.

Balance is a tough word, but a beautiful mix of masculine and feminine energy.

So it takes a very strong woman to surrender.

And it's tough to get there.

It's tough to get to this balance, right?

Because, like you said, if we are in charge of our business, we're in charge of 10 million things any given day, like you, even more, because you have kids, Maj, and I don't, but still, we are business owners, we're in charge of our clients, our life, our life.

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The strongest woman has a balance between masculine and feminine.

For example, if you surround yourself by feminine men, really entertain this because I know you're both going to manifest your love, your love mate.

Oh, I want to learn how to do that.

If you surround yourself by men who are not strong,

They become more feminine.

You become more masculine.

It's just nature.

I've done that many times.

And you're going to get crucified and blamed for being masculine because, in fact, you've assumed the masculine role because you're surrounding yourself by feminine people.

I guarantee you that if you surrounded yourself by a really strong masculine man, you would like open like a flower, you would blossom like a freaking rose.

But and you would be so feminine.

But, Brooke, let me tell you, you had a person that was capable of assuming that masculine role

at times.

But you know, sometimes because I always go for the super powerful masculine man because in my personal life I want to relinquish control.

Okay, I want to like the guy do something, please be in charge.

But most men, and I talked about it on the politics,

let me ask your opinion.

When you, I just want to understand it.

So if you're if you find the powerful masculine men, do you meet them in feminine energy or do you meet them in the middle of the menu?

No, I meet them in, yeah, my personal life is very feminine energy because I'm only the boss of my business.

But most men, and tell me, you girls, tell me if you agree or not, when they meet you because they want to date you or they want to fuck you, sorry,

I have a dirty mouth.

They tell you, oh no, it's okay.

I love what you do.

I love everything.

I have no problem with it.

No, no, no.

But then as you're dating, the real personality comes out, like maybe they're feminists, and they're like, they start feeling intimidated.

They're like, oh, I don't want to, no, this bitch is just too much.

She has too much shit going on.

They have to, like, kind of, you know, follow what they're saying you should do or not.

You know, I, you never, it's not never good enough.

If I'm in my feminine energy, oh, you're not doing anything.

If I'm in masculine energy, oh, you're too much.

You know,

it's hard.

I wish there was an answer.

It's so complicated.

What I know to be true, and what I tell my daughters, is to never dim your light or be less than what you are, or try to diminish or be smaller.

Agreed.

To let someone else shine.

There is enough room, and there is enough power, and there's enough space in this world for you to have the most badass, powerful man, and to be a badass, powerful woman.

I agree.

And together, we are illuminating unbelievable possibilities.

What happens is if you don't have the right partner, if you don't have the right best friend,

if you don't have the right girlfriend that you walk through life with who isn't celebrating you and raising your average, like it gives me goosebumps.

Then suddenly

you're missing those little celebrations along the way.

And in an intimate relationship, it takes a very strong man and woman to vibe together.

It's complicated.

I agree.

I think I made this mistake before in my marriage.

Like I said, I was in a my husband didn't even want me to work, so I relinquished, I gave up so much of my life, and I don't want to make this mistake again.

And I agree with you.

The right partner for you is going to be 1 million percent supportive of everything you do.

Right?

They're not going to try to cut you back or make you feel bad.

I agree.

Or gaslight you or tell you, like, oh, you're being too masculine.

Are you doing this?

Like, you said that has been a matter of time.

It would be a terrible conversation to even hear from someone.

Like, even when you say that,

it makes me go like this.

And imagine being in a really healthy, supportive relationship where those conversations are, you're open for dialogue.

If there needs to be adjustments or compromises or little tweaks along the way for the higher good of the relationship, for the higher good of both beings, right?

I mean, that's

that's really the goal.

It makes me sad.

And I know that there are a lot of women who go through that and who compromise and who give up

to mold and to become something that they're not for the better good of someone else.

And it's a horrible idea.

It's not sustainable.

No, exactly.

It's not sustainable.

And if it is, if you sustain it, you're miserable.

One day you're going to wake up and be like,

by the way, it happens to a lot of women.

One day further down in life, they wake up and they're like, oh my God, I've been in this miserable marriage for decades because that's how we are brought up

to make a man happy.

It happens all the time.

There's a lot of societal

influences and limitations, but

I went to a female

therapy group session when I was in my 20s.

I was very young.

I'll speak fast because I just want to make this point.

I don't want to get back to our conversation.

But I surrounded myself with women that were in their 50s and 60s, and I was like in my 20s.

I didn't know shit about shit.

And somehow I found myself in this women's therapy group, very similar to the type of work that we do out here in Sisterhood Circle.

And I remember listening to women become storytellers, and I think we're storytellers as women.

We're meant to share our stories.

They were stories created by women for women.

We were breaking down this book called Women Who Run with the Wolves, chapter by chapter.

And I was so inexperienced, okay?

And I hadn't even become, I hadn't even started the process of becoming who I was supposed to be.

And I remember listening to these women who had given up their goals, their dreams, were redesigning their life.

Maybe they were divorced.

Maybe they were starting over.

Maybe they never found love.

Most of these women didn't even know who they were.

What they knew was, oh my God, here I am, and I shoulda, coulda, woulda.

And I remember listening to them going, and I was like 22, thinking, I'm never going to be that woman.

I'm never going to do that.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

And I might not know who I am, but I know that I'm never going to do that.

And I know that I want to grow up.

And it was a commitment that I made to myself very early on.

I want to grow up and be who I'm supposed to be.

And so I think about that in a little bit of a lighter way, that shoulda, coulda, would have.

What if there is no shoulda, coulda, would have?

What if we just get to make a commitment to ourselves and become who we're supposed to be?

Not for our man, not for our kids, not for our parents, just who we're supposed to be in our divine right, and there's freedom in that.

Yeah, and no one gets to stand in your way of that unless you let them.

No, that's the most, I think that's the most important message.

That that's the most amazing thing that you gotta put yourself first it took me all this journey to learn that

it took me all this long time that if you don't love yourself and if you don't put it's not selfish if you don't put yourself first it's true you're gonna be miserable and you're probably gonna make somebody else it starts with self-love yeah it starts it starts with love we come into the world with love divine love we leave in love yeah we have to live in a loving space it's like the labyrinth that we walk today which will make no sense to people listening but no but you guys if you're listening to some like you gotta go i'm gonna post all the videos all over my Instagram, YouTube, and everything because she has the most insane, they handmade labyrinth

on your back.

This isn't even a backyard, right?

This is like a property.

I don't know what to call this.

It's a retreat.

It's a fantastic retreat.

I mean, it's impossible to describe it in words.

You would have to be here to believe it.

But I'm bringing it to you guys via video since you're being insanely kind and letting us film it.

Go check it out because it's such a beautiful, beautiful labyrinth.

It's shaped like a heart.

And I loved watching cat experience.

And I couldn't stop thinking about my mom.

You were thinking about your spirit.

I wanted to cry because I felt like my mom there because my mom was all about this kind of things.

And I felt like my mom would be crying and crying and crying.

It was really beautiful to see that and to witness that and to share that with you and to describe it to your listeners because you just took a moment to go walk in silence and to feel something and something emotional that happens to a woman.

We slow down

and we start to listen to the language of our spirit, our soul, whatever it is you believe in, the language of your heart.

With all the noise and all the grind and being an entrepreneur and being a boss and managing so many things, we compromise stillness and we compromise that selfish moment.

I don't like the word selfish.

We should be selfish.

We should get selfish so that we can fuel our souls, ourselves, and be in service to ourselves.

I was talking to a friend of mine, and she's been married for 14 years.

And she just got divorced recently and she was telling me I don't know who I am

I'm like I'm really trying to figure out who I am you know like her little regardless of my kids and my ex-husband you know and it just breaks my heart when she said that because she really doesn't know who she is she's I understand that it's like but I have to say it's never too late to start over

me and like I would definitely I want to meet your friends yeah we gotta bring your and I have to say a parenthesis I'm so happy she came

because she's always like the on the go, on the go, on the go, on the go, stressed, stressed, stressed.

And I'm like, Maj,

we both work like, oh,

and I know you do too.

We work seven days a week, 10 million hours a day.

But you need to pause.

You need to breathe.

You need to remember because if we don't have our health, we don't have anything.

And in that chaotic world out there, we forget about ourselves.

And even last night,

one of our a friend

when she was, you know, we just kind of started talking about, you know,

who we are as a person, and she's like, I don't know, because she's been in a marriage, you know, because so many women go through that.

Can I share something with you that this made me think of?

Two things.

You remember how many times in class I said, breathe, breathe, breathe.

It's almost annoying.

It's an amazing reminder.

We forget how to breathe.

We do.

I teach breath work, which I would love to invite you both as my guests.

We'll do a breath work session.

But my recent retreat in Arizona at Sivana was so profound.

Women from all different walks of life.

So I had women in their 60s and I had young women.

And the one thing, the one common denominator that kept coming up, because I ask everyone always in the beginning, who are you?

Who do you think you are?

Which is a real mindfock.

And why are you here?

And in exploring why are you here, the one thing, like your conversation with your girlfriend that kept coming up is they said,

what now?

Like, I don't know what happens next.

I'm an empty nester.

I'm newly divorced.

I'm single.

I haven't met the love of my life.

I just retired.

All different reasons.

And these were like powerful women, all kinds of women.

The one thing that they all had in common is they were like, I don't know what this next season looks like.

What's next?

What now?

So we spent three days together, okay?

And there was a song that I played today in class, which we should post it for your listeners.

It's fucking amazing.

It's Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin.

The playlist was fantastic, by the way.

Thank you.

We'll share the playlist because I have a female empowerment playlist just for you.

There was a song that came on in the final day as we were still exploring.

So we do journal work, we do meditation, we do breath work, we do all kinds of stuff.

Sound bath.

There was a song that played in my final day with them, and it is, I'm Every Woman, but it's a really cool medley.

And I stopped the song and I stopped in the middle of the class and I went, holy shit, everybody stop.

And I'm like, that's our answer.

Here we we all, for three days, we were trying to define who we are.

Are we a title?

Am I a mother?

Am I a doctor?

Am I a teacher?

Am I a daughter?

Am I a CEO?

Like, who the fuck am I?

We had all these descriptions.

They were just words.

And I'm like, I just realized we are the collective energy of all these life experiences.

We are the collective combination of all of these things that have happened to all of us.

And it was very emotional.

And everyone was crying.

And I'm like, I'm going to crank this music back up.

I am every woman.

Yes, we are a little bit of everything.

And we stopped in it.

And that question that you had that was emotional with your friend last night, especially after divorce.

I've redesigned my life twice.

That what now, I said in the middle of session, I'm like, what now is right now?

We're already here.

So we keep wanting an answer.

We keep fighting uncertainty.

Partner up with uncertainty.

Who am I to decide?

What now?

Am I going to know what the next five years look like?

I have to tell you the secret

for me.

Yes, we have to learn how to live more in the present.

And I think people think too much about the future.

If you start, it's hard, but if you get in this place that you appreciate today,

the present, your life is going to be a million times easier.

It's really hard.

It's really important.

I know.

And the what now, right now, in this present moment is the moment that's going to serve you and really define you.

It's not what happened to you.

It's not what you're afraid of.

It's not what you're manifesting for this next month, this next season.

It's really right now.

Who am I?

Can I find my purpose?

Yeah, a whole nother podcast we should do.

Oh my god, we have to do a Brooke Barton podcast series.

Brooke on the loose.

Oh my god.

Brooke on the loose.

Oh my god, Brooke on the Loose.

That sounds really fun.

Speaking of, I gotta go back a little bit because, like you're saying, so many women out there wonder.

Maybe they're in a bad marriage, going through a divorce.

Like this lady isn't even going through a divorce.

She's married, but God knows what her problems are.

That's a whole other episode.

But you went through

twice with four

I cannot even imagine because I went through all my nasty crap and I consider myself a survivor, but I don't have kids.

I cannot imagine what it must have been.

Plus.

I think it's an aggravation.

The media, right?

All over you.

Yeah, do you know what I mean?

They write shit about your life like they live in your bedroom.

They slice you together like

in the place of someone that you weren't even with.

No, and my favorite part is like,

and they think they know, and I'm thinking, nobody knows what's going on in four walls in her house but they talk about your life like they know you like they're a friend tmz like when you dirty hair getting your lungs like

like they they make sure they catch you like at the worst possible moment because sensationalism sells so you went through all this the kids the media nana na na na na na and you obviously on the other side and you're living your best life so someone out there listening oh, yeah, she's Brooke, she's beautiful, she's rich, fuck all of you.

Yeah, it's easy, you live in ebb.

That's the emails I get from it.

Stop, you're bald.

Yeah, I know.

Eugenia, can I please have a little more cave?

Oh, you gave Eugenia the day off.

What's wrong with you, Brooke?

The day I come visit you, you give your buttle,

but anyhow, I forgot.

You were saying, what would I say?

I was saying, yeah, so because I know women, and I'm sure you get that on social media as well, we have to talk about that.

People send me this nastiest messages: like, you're blonde, you live in Beverly Hills, you don't have any problems.

I'm like, huh?

You don't know anything about my life.

You don't know the uphill better that it's been.

That's true.

So I would just say,

maybe somebody needs a little pep talk or motivation or anything, like, because there is a better tomorrow.

There is another life.

There is another chance.

You're proof of that.

I'm proof of that.

Do you have anything to say to somebody?

I do.

I mean,

I want to back up for a second to all that criticism and all that chatter that doesn't serve us.

You know,

I challenge people to ask questions rather than assume things and make negative statements.

You know, if anybody ever came to me and said, Hey, how do you run your life?

Do you have a nanny and a housekeeper and a driver and a chef?

I'd be like, shit, I'm looking for all that.

Yeah, I have a nanny, otherwise, I wouldn't be able to run my four kids.

And yeah, I have a housekeeper.

I have a big house.

I like it clean.

Don't judge me.

Do I want more things or less things?

Like, who am I?

You want to know who I am?

Ask me, right?

So I find a lot of freedom in that very open dialogue for me.

I do not lean into that 360 conversation of criticism on social media.

We, I like to engage with my audience, so it's there.

Does it sting a little bit?

Yeah.

There's a really great

emoji, the one that looks like the little shit and the one that's the middle finger.

Use them.

Oh, there is?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I'm not joking.

Oh, we have to create one.

I'm like,

I'll show them to you.

I'm kidding.

There's also that block button, which you can use, too.

Yeah, I think it's a good idea.

I'm going to show you

No, but in all seriousness, I wanted to just say,

engage with people who are asking questions, not just throwing out, you know, casual judgments without even a face on their profile or any followers.

So that's that.

But what I would say to people that need a little bit of love and a little pep talk is just lean into possibilities.

You know, I didn't know what was happening in my life when I got a divorce.

And I was the woman that would have bet on forever in marriage.

So the first time was really necessary.

I picked the wrong person.

It was ugly.

It's still ugly.

We don't even talk.

It's a damn shame.

The second time I was really married to, I thought who was my soulmate in the love of my life, who's one of my best friends right now.

And we

sort of had a parting because it was necessary, right?

We both agreed that it was time to redesign our lives in a different way and we committed to raising our children.

And we have a beautiful relationship right now.

But I didn't know what life was going to be like.

And I didn't didn't know what was on the other side.

I didn't know what was coming.

It was really, really scary.

I didn't know if I would find love again.

I didn't know if my kids were going to be okay.

It wasn't the lessons in the fairy tale that I wanted to share with them.

But I allowed myself room to accept the need for change.

And I did go through that

very difficult inner dialogue of did I fail

and what does that look like and what does that mean and what did I do wrong or what could I have done different and I had to surrender to the concept of failure and I had to surrender so deep to allow myself to believe and accept that it was time for change and change was necessary.

And one step further, I had to teach my children that valuable lesson, not to give up, not to have grit, not to do everything possible, but to accept the fact that sometimes change is necessary.

Maybe you were with the wrong person, maybe you weren't the right person, maybe you need to change.

Maybe you need to choose differently.

Maybe you need to pause.

Maybe it's time.

But that's very brave because most

people stay in unhappy relationships because they're afraid of starting over.

It's true.

And staying

for too long is really hard.

Not staying long enough is really hard.

And

many women have asked me, like, how did did you know?

When did you know?

And I'm like, you just know when you know.

You just know.

You just know when you know.

And I really would like to believe in forever.

I didn't get that lucky in my life in love.

And here I am again.

Yeah, so let's talk about that.

You got divorced.

And then how long after that you met your now fiancé?

David and I had separated and kind of worked through our

permanent separation for years.

So divorce took a long time.

We weren't in a hurry because it it was very peaceful.

Thank God, God love him.

He is the greatest ex-husband of all time.

I have to compliment him because not everybody has, he's a great ex-husband.

I love Dave.

We actually really love each other.

But that is so nice because you have kids, and it's so healthy for the kids if you get along for the kids, right?

Yeah, it's really important.

Learn how to be a great person.

And your kids, if you're a shitty husband,

be decent.

Try to be cordial for the kids.

No matter how old they are.

Yeah, exactly.

Your kids are worth everything and taking the high road.

I'm sure he must be a great guy because

he's a great dad and he's an amazing guy.

Anyway, so it took years.

And your kids, by the way, I have to make a parenthesis.

That's major DNA, but they're gorgeous.

Thank you.

They're gorgeous.

Thank you.

Incredibly beautiful.

They're good kids.

I'm very lucky.

Thank you for saying that.

So it took years.

I needed to, and I'm curious how you both feel about this.

I was never alone in my life.

I was married for 19 years to two different people.

I was very codependent.

I was probably insecure in alone time as a younger woman.

I was very lonely in alone time.

I needed to learn how to be alone and I was not good at it.

I dated a lot as a younger woman.

I had a lot of relationships.

But as a woman in my 40s, I had never been alone.

So suddenly I found myself with, thank God for my children, but like alone alone as a woman.

And I didn't like it.

And I really had to fight through it.

And I learned more about about myself during that period of time in my life than my whole life.

And so when you're designing, when you're a mother, when you're building a life, building a marriage, you don't have time alone.

You got a man next to you

all the time.

Time alone as a woman is so invaluable.

It was the only season of my life where I really learned how to listen to my own language, my inner language.

And I wanted to date.

I wasn't lucky like you.

You said you had 25 dates in one year.

God loves you.

Oh, my God.

I wanted to date, and I wasn't dating.

I dated a little bit.

I would have liked to have dated much more because I thought it was funny.

How would you meet people, like through friends?

Did you ever do dating apps?

Never did a dating app.

Because that would be hard for you.

I never did a dating app and I have nothing against it.

It wasn't for me.

Friends weren't setting me up.

You would always wonder if they have the right intentions or

they want to meet me because.

Because you're not on a dating app and you don't have generous friends with single people.

There's no so-called single guys around.

So it's tough, yeah.

It's very tough.

And I think we become peakier, right?

Select.

I always meet a lot of people because of what I do.

Yeah, you're lucky.

Yeah, but I don't know.

I feel like I'm nice, but people weren't, no one was really approaching me.

I wasn't probably, I also stay home, so I probably wasn't out and about.

I could have had more fun.

But anyway, I dated a little bit.

I had one relationship that was wrong, but necessary for the time.

I knew that it wouldn't last.

And then I accidentally met Scott.

Like, literally by accident.

I was at a bar having a cocktail with my stylist and a very close friend.

Here in Malibu.

Here in Santa Monica.

Which bar, please?

At Wally's bar.

At Wally's.

In Santa Monica.

In Santa Monica.

I was having a glass of wine.

Yeah, because the Wally's in Beverly Hills is a, it's such a picnic.

Yeah, no.

I was actually with my girlfriend and with a friend, and I was finishing a long day of work, and I was at the bar.

I was having a glass of wine, and he was so brave and so masculine and so confident and so cute.

And he walked right up to me and he actually grabbed my arm, but not in a weird way, which who does that?

Yeah, nobody does your arm.

Nobody like goes into your space right now.

right but it wasn't intrusive or creepy and he was like he said hi i'm scott and i was like he was so funny did he know who you were or he just told me

someone says he didn't do you believe him i believe him i believe him he's a sports guy he doesn't watch he doesn't watch what does he do is he in a commercial real estate

he's like a golfer and i don't think he knew who i was but anyway he said i'm scott he goes come and have a drink

come and have a drink with me i believe i'm just being a no i believe i believe him too yeah he said come and have a drink with me and i really wanted to have a drink with him but i couldn't because I was on my way out because I was with my girlfriend and I didn't drive.

I'd come from work and I was all the way in Malibu.

So I wanted that drink and I couldn't have that drink.

And I think he

thought that, I don't know, I just thought I would, I was very nice.

I said, genuinely, I would love to have that drink with you, but I can't because I'm leaving.

And he didn't really stop me.

Did he ask for a number?

He didn't ask for my number.

Really?

But he didn't take no for an answer.

He said, no, no, no, come and have that drink with me.

So I went over to the table and I said, I really can't.

I'm so sorry.

I really have to go.

Pause, pause, pause.

Didn't ask for my number.

Pause, pause, pause.

And I'm like, okay.

So I leave.

And my stylist, her name is Isabelle Banham.

She's a goddess, was at Valley getting her car.

And she's like, well, what happened?

I was like, well, nothing.

I'm going to leave you hanging.

She goes, did you get his number?

I go, no, I didn't get his number.

Did you give him your number?

I go, no, I didn't give him my number.

I don't even know.

She's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

She goes storming back inside.

Like, Isabelle, wait, wait, wait.

She goes storming back inside and she was like, hey, do you want her number?

What's wrong with you?

She's like, oh my God.

She gives him my number and she says that she goes, and don't be that guy.

You call her tonight.

Did you ever ask him why didn't he ask for your number?

I think he maybe felt rejected because I said I couldn't.

So she

gives him my number and he called me that night and we met for a drink that night.

And that was it?

And that was it.

And how long have you guys been together?

Four years.

Wow, that's a long time.

Oh, yeah.

I know.

And we're engaged.

And so here I am talking together.

I saw your beautiful pictures.

I think you were in Europe last year.

We were, yeah.

With your

bling?

I know.

I was working out this morning, so I don't have it on.

I know.

But it's gorgeous.

I think you did a really good job.

And we were talking a little off-camera.

I don't know if you're okay talking on camera, but you don't have a date set.

We don't have a date set.

I'm a little slow in the party planning.

But you're enjoying it.

Maybe you can help me.

I can help you.

Yeah, we can

be really honest and vulnerable.

I'm

very committed in love, and I love our life the way that it is, and it's scary.

And I'm not afraid of scary things.

You know, I'm not afraid to be uncomfortable.

I just wasn't that girl that was like dying for the big wedding and rushing off to go do it again.

And we're trying to do it right and make sure that it's spiritual and soulful and right for all of us and for our family.

And so I'm just a little slow in my party planning process, but we're getting there.

We thought we would do it this year.

You know, the pandemic was,

you know, it was just, there were so many things, but I need to, maybe you can help me.

I need to pop it.

But you know, I love that you said, by the way, you don't live with him.

Yeah.

Like you were telling me, and you love your home, you're happy in your life.

And I was saying, I think this step is so important because that's what happened to me.

I'm at a point in my life that I'm insanely happy in my little world.

Like my little home, which is like the size of your guest bathroom.

But I love it.

My dog, my work, my project.

I have my little universe.

So when I meet the right person, I'm not like desperate.

Because a lot of girls, I know they don't like to hear that, but they send the desperation energy.

You can smell desperation.

Yeah, you can smell it.

And I'm like, you need to be happy with your life.

You need to love your life.

And then somebody comes and they compliment it.

And I agree, the dating part is so much fun, right?

Getting ready for the guy and him picking you up.

Or you sleep here, he sleep there, la.

It makes it all sexy and funny.

It's very sexy.

We have a very modern approach to it.

And by the way, lots of people do it.

So we were joking around off-camera before about what it's like.

And, you know, we don't live together, yet we're building this life together.

And for right now, it really works how it is.

I actually like that it's a date half the week when we spend together when we don't have the kids.

He comes over, he still brings me flowers.

I'm able to like wash my hair and like get away.

Okay, David.

If you're listening, please can you open like a boyfriend dating husband's cool out there?

Oh, yes, Cott, Cott, Scott, Cotts, Scott, Scott.

They were easy excellent.

Sorry, Scott.

It's Cott the fiancé.

Yeah, I know that.

I'm like, I'm like an

audience.

Yeah, I know.

He needs to teach men how to date a lot.

And, you know,

it's not easy.

Like, what's most important is that you design it and you define it.

And then you realize that for the right man, I would have said, I would never do it again.

I would have said I would never live with someone again.

Because I've been here with my children.

And it's like, we have a very feminine house.

I have three daughters, my poor little son, he's the only dude around here, and then Scott when he comes in half the week.

But I would have said I would never do it again.

And then the right man, the right person comes along who is Scott.

Yeah.

And then we'll shift again and we change our point of view.

And then, you know, we find a way to sort of weave our lives and blend our family.

Scott has two kids, I have four.

That's amazing.

So now we're trying to figure out what does the future look like for us?

Where do we live?

Where does marriage live?

Is it here?

Is it there?

Is it somewhere?

And your dog is in love with Majde.

You know, she has something.

My dog Phoenix is madly in love with her.

Like, he can smell her.

When she's parking the car on the street, my dog can smell her little paw on you.

It's so sweet.

It's something.

It's a dog whisper.

But you know, I think it's important for women to know we have this idea, right?

We have this preconceived dream, this notion, this idea.

It is important in our lives, even as strong, independent women, to just be open to the possibility that something, someone, something comes along that will rock you.

Huh?

Maybe.

Yes, one million.

I say that.

Does he have any friends?

I know, right?

I know.

Well, now that I've met you two goddesses.

Hey, feel free to...

Feel free to pimp us out.

Leave.

Leave her alone.

She really wants your attention.

They're like playing with the dog.

No,

I always say, Brooke, that no matter how much you go, at least for me, and I guess you agree now that you fall in love, but even if somebody breaks your heart, even if you're dating and it doesn't work out, you should always be open to love.

Like, don't let one bad, nasty relationship close your heart forever.

You know, you need to, like, keep believing.

You can't stop believing.

And if you stop letting love in, if you stop giving love, you can't let love in.

I agree.

You know, there's this beautiful concept and practice that I do sometimes in yoga when I'm teaching.

We receive, we give love through the front of our heart, right?

We give love.

We receive from the back of our heart.

So we have to breathe into both spaces.

We have to create space for love.

I was really willing, and my heart was broken.

Not going to be broken after David and I split up.

It was necessary.

I was willing to let my heart get broken again.

Because otherwise, how can I meet someone

with all of me?

I will say that I'm wiser and I'm more careful and I have boundaries and I understand who I am as a woman more today than I ever did before.

And I'm still learning, by the way.

I'm still learning.

I'm still growing.

I'm still shifting.

I'm learning all the time.

But I'm willing.

I'm willing to hurt.

I'm willing to love deeply.

I'm willing to let my heart get broken again.

I'm willing to take those chances.

I really don't know how to do it any other way.

One million percent.

And I tell my daughters and my son that too.

Like,

we're going to get it wrong, right?

Things are going to hurt.

People are going to disappoint you.

People don't really break your heart.

I really believe this.

They break your expectations, right?

So true.

And if your heart's broken, it heals.

It heals.

It heals.

It heals.

Do you believe in twin flame?

David is my twin flame.

I do.

I just had this conversation.

I love it.

See, I thought David was my soulmate.

He's not.

He certainly wasn't my life partner.

I'm not with him anymore.

He is my twin flame.

In fact, if you looked at him on my phone, there's two flames, and some people are like, Why do you have two?

It's like double hot.

It's not that he's doubly hot.

He was my twin flame, and he challenged me in so many ways, and I did him.

And we had a lot of

life business to do together.

I believe in all of that.

Do you believe in that?

Do you?

Yeah, I do.

I really do.

It doesn't have to be just a

woman.

It can be.

There's so many people who come into our lives to challenge us, to teach us.

And sometimes they leave us.

Sometimes they're here for a moment.

Don't stay yeah i met my twin flame but we're not together it's just a kind of intense it's intense i can't even describe i have not met mine yet i hope that you will we'll do some manifestations of that but in the light of the broken the willingness to have a broken heart which sounds people are gonna be like why would you do that it's because

People come and go and it's not always up to us.

People come into our lives at moments.

Before I let you go,

we need to talk about a little bit.

Oh, see, I can't believe we've been talking like for, I'm putting my sweat on.

I'm putting the heater on too because I i know you're cold we need to talk for a few minutes about this incredible wellness fitness

world that you created so stay there i i'm gonna take another two minute break and we are gonna do a little extra chunk of caron d'eleuze because she is multi multi multi-talented and i hope to god she's inspiring you guys 10% as much as she's inspiring me.

Like, I'm ready to love.

I'm ready to get my summer body, I'm ready to dance.

I'm like, I'm leaving here.

I'm going to.

Can you adopt?

Can we sleep at the TV?

You know, I have tents.

You know, I have tents.

Yes, yes.

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Okay,

we're back.

We, I mean, this episode could be like a five-hour episode, but let's chart one part one to be one.

Yeah, yeah, from so, from doing

so much work on TV, being so successful, you kind of turned, not kind of, like, you turned big time major success into wellness, fitness, and that's what you do.

Can you tell us about it?

And you guys have to go look at the videos because we did a class with her today.

You guys are amazing.

It's incredible.

Sound bath.

And look at her Instagram.

Please, if you're not following her, because every single day, I think you post almost every day.

I do, I do.

Videos like you know that you make workout fun, you make workout inspiring, and this is what I love about it.

Thank you.

I mean, I think fitness should be fun.

I know it's not for everyone.

I really understand that.

I mean, I could teach people how to get in shape, how to body sculpt, and you know, this whole bikini body concept is not really my jam.

I'm really passionate about the mental part of it,

the mindful part of wellness.

So I started an app.

It's been, gosh, it's been almost five years now.

I can't believe it.

It's a digital app so it's for all different levels.

It's for people all over the world to teach them how to train their body, how to tone and tighten and how to body sculpt.

Also how to create energy, how to build curves.

It's not about numbers.

It's not about weight.

It's about strength.

It's about energy and it's about confidence and it's about sensuality.

And I really think that the more we do for ourselves, that love begins with self-care, the better we feel, the better we feel, the more we want to do it.

So, we recently started doing digital Zoom classes, meaning you could be anywhere in the world and you could come over to my house, you could come to the teepee, you could come to the sweat temple where I teach, and be part of a community of women on the computer.

Do I want you here in person?

Yes, but digital apps are good enough for a lot of people.

I'm also doing a lot of retreats and wellness work that's a little bit more

mind-body-spirit.

So, in the mindful space of shifting our energy, raising our frequency, connecting with women, creating your she tribe, breath work, sound bath, meditation.

The body works the easy part.

It's the heart work, right?

And the mindful work that really changes us.

But somebody out there listening to us again, somebody that doesn't work out, that's out of shape, summer is coming.

Everybody, you know, we love working, we are very active, but some people are not.

And same, they send this message like, oh, it's easy for you guys, blah, blah, whatever.

But any motivation, like, how do you encourage someone to take the first step?

I think you have to start.

Just begin.

I don't care if it's a walk.

I don't care if it's a little yoga stretch that's for beginners that you do in the privacy of your living room.

If we lose our mobility, if we lose our energy, if we lose our sense of self, pretty soon you find yourself so far into it that you don't know how to get back to that woman that once was.

So I work with people that need to lose a hundred pounds, that want to lose five pounds.

I work with women who are fit, that are looking for more flexibility.

I look work with women who are depressed because they're not moving their body.

That it's not even about the physical part, it's about the mindful part.

So I would say find content.

The app is like, I don't even know, I think like a quarter a day.

It's nothing.

I mean, let's just call it free.

The first week is free, everybody, actually.

But go find content on YouTube.

Find my app.

Find something that speaks to you, that's inspiring, that's fun.

And then you get an accountability buddy.

Like, I call you and I go, hey, do you want to work out Wednesday?

Or hey, there's a Zoom class Friday.

Meet me in my living room.

Or let's go for that walk today.

Or you come and you find me in an in-person experience.

Or you commit to a girlfriend getaway, a sleepover retreat, a whole day of self-love and self-care and mindfulness.

We are curating so many different types of events that will shift you into your own divine energy.

And it's also also a time of discovery yes right it's not about the booty i can teach you that all day long kind of about the booty but not really but it teaches you how to get a better understanding of who you are and i look at yoga i look at fitness as an internal dance a moment to learn more about yourself what's standing in your way Why is your neck tight?

Why is your jaw tight?

Why aren't you flexible?

What are we storing in our hips?

She's laughing because she's laughing.

What are we storing in our hips, ladies?

These hips are emotional file cabinets, period.

Yes.

There's science behind it.

All the drama, all the trauma, all the shit, all the pain, everything.

And I do this really beautiful exercise, which I'll show you in your audience while we're together, where you sit in stillness and it's very calm and you're tapped into your abdomen, you're tapped into your heart.

But imagine just for a moment, we'll do it together.

Close your eyes and take your left hand.

And in your left hand, you hold all of your past, right?

All of your past, all of your pain, all of your failures, all of your history, all of your challenges.

And you feel like it's a little bit heavy, right?

And you hold your past in your left hand, and in your right hand, ladies, looking for love, you hold your future, your possibilities, the things you want to manifest, your dreams, your success, right?

Your abundance, your love, your twin flame.

You hold everything in your right hand, and then you take your left hand of your past and your right hand of your future, and you marry them into your heart, and you hold them.

I have goosebumps, you hold them close, you hold them tight, because they belong to you, only you.

And you hold them in this present moment.

And the type of work that I do is to understand who we were, who we're becoming, where we've been, where we're going.

But to really pause and to echo in this time right here, in this space that belongs really only to you.

It doesn't belong to a man.

It doesn't belong to a child.

It doesn't belong to your partner.

It just belongs to you.

And we tap into that deeper understanding of creating that space of who we are as women.

What are our possibilities?

Where were we?

Where are we right now in this moment?

And so I can summary, all of the work that I do do brings us back to exactly where you walked in love.

I love that.

Brings us to love, acceptance, compassion.

It's that.

It's that.

If that's it, if we live in a loving space of self-love acceptance.

I think it all goes back to, like we're saying, self-love.

Because if you look at working out, taking care of yourself, taking care of your mind, body, and soul as an obligation, that's when you get in trouble.

But when you look at it in terms of like just loving yourself more like self-care it becomes a completely different journey like you start appreciating it it shouldn't be like oh my god i can't believe i'm gonna do this like you said find something that you love doing find a friend find somebody that encourages you and it becomes something amazing that you can't wait to get there like what's happening to us today i was insanely excited to come meet you because you know for a long time i'm a huge admirer of your work but when i got here we were like wow her energy is like the sun hits you and it's it's it's foggy in malibu today the sunshine but we don't need it you're the sunshine and the class is so full of your energy it was hard because we are i'm i'm i'm in good shape running and walking around with phoenix but i know i need to do more yoga it's very stretch specific in the toning and tightening and all the

all the things that women complain about we target all those areas in class So the body works.

It was so tough, but it was so good.

Because you feel good.

This is what I really know.

We're stronger than we think we are.

We're worthy of doing this kind of work.

We are capable of doing this kind of work.

And I do a lot of like mindful mantras where we actually speak to change that fucked up negative chatter in our mind that's in our way.

Knowing that we are strong, we are worthy, we are capable, and we deserve to do this work.

And the more you do the work, the more you understand who you are as a woman.

And the more you bring to the table as this beautiful goddess like let's live in our goddess energy yeah and that's that the more you believe that and feel that the more you attract that right the more you love the more you attract love you're incredible thank you thank you with all my heart promise me that you're gonna come back of course

do the sisterhood work here 1 million billion percent if you guys don't follow her look at her instagram

brooke burke is the insta right brooke burke body is the fitness part of it brooke brooke is me i'm easy to find but i would love to share things with your audience.

Let's give them that feminine engagement, our female empowerment playlist.

Let's give them a discount.

Give them a free month in the app.

Whatever you want.

Let me know.

We'll hook you up.

We'll do that.

But follow me.

Look at

the workout videos.

Listen to the inspiring messages.

I joke, but I love that phrase because I always want to get in better shape.

Of course, I love my journey.

I think

I look better and I feel better than when I was 20 years younger.

But I remember, summer bodies are made in spring.

They're made right now.

Yeah, no pressure.

But maybe everybody can get on the bandwagon, like I said, accountability and we can all look better together.

And I think that's a very important thing.

And it's not about perfection.

Yes.

And it's not about perfection.

It's about being the best version of yourself.

Because like you said, you know, some people are criticized by being too thin.

Some people are criticized by being too fat, too chunky.

You gotta love your body type.

You gotta embrace what you have.

It's more about health and well-being, right it's about health and well-being and it's about how we meet ourselves and I don't care what size you are at what stage you're like be a woman yeah embrace your curves embrace your power embrace your energy it's not about size it's not about any of that no it's how do we feel in the wee hours of the morning and can we meet ourselves with that strength I mean

there's such

it's so sexy to find a woman who is tapped into our sensual energy one million percent and I love to do that work and I want you to come back and do it with me one million percent on the bottom.

And maybe, maybe we do the 21-day challenge together.

So I'm almost finished.

I'm almost done choreography.

It starts 21 days before summer.

I think the first day of summer is the third week in June.

But we're going to do it,

daily check-ins, accountability, Zoom meetings, digital hangouts.

You can come here.

We could actually Zoom a class for your audience here together.

Let's.

I like to share.

So let's give your audience some time.

I believe the Universe United for much more than a fantastic podcast episode.

I'm insanely grateful.

I'm all about women empowerment.

We need to join forces.

I know we can do 10 million things together and tell girls out there listening to us.

Go after your dreams.

You know, you can always rebuild.

She's living proof of it.

We are living proof of it.

So if you're sitting out on the couch now eating bon bons, drop the bonbon, get a bottle of water, get your bestie, go kick some ass.

cat kingdom

let's do it let's do it anyway brooch on the lose brooch on the lose brooch on the lose

we are not gonna leave you alone ever again we love you

are gonna be fantastic but you are 10 billion times even more fantastic than i thought i hope we get to do it again we have to clap you have to clap you're amazing

this was a super special episode the cat on the lose

we're doing it live from her gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous home and sanctuary in malibu for sure one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life.

One of the most spiritual places I've ever seen in my life, if not the most.

And I am insanely grateful with all my heart for you.

You didn't know me.

Like,

your agent said.

I feel like I know you.

Your agent said, like, yeah, let this chick do that.

Because I was really annoying him for a long time.

But you're like, you took the chances.

I feel like I know you.

Yes, I feel like

we're best.

It's from another life.

Yeah.

100%.

We're just beginning.

Grateful, grateful, grateful.

Thank you with all my heart.

You're amazing, guys.

I hope you enjoyed it.

Love you.

We'll see you soon.

I'm gonna hook you up with everything she said.

I hope I see you soon.

Kisses, kisses, kisses.

Be healthy out there.