Love Coach Nicole Moore

Hi guys, happy Tuesday and it's the first day of summer.

I'm so excited.

I am doing this episode live from the Soul House West Hollywood with a guest that I admire.

I love your work and I am so happy and honored that you're here.

Hi Nicole.

Hi, thanks for having me.

Let me interview, introduce you first of all, Nicole Moore.

You're a love coach.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I like this mess.

I am a love coach.

I've been doing it for more than 10 years.

And I will tell you, I've heard everything.

You've heard, I've been doing the podcast for two years, and I heard everything.

I can only imagine you.

Yeah, yeah.

A lot of,

I'll say this, people have a lot of stuff going on in their love lives,

behind the scenes.

And you know, people don't really share.

Like, whatever you say on social media, please forget that.

Because, like, let me tell you, you will not believe the stuff that's going on behind the scenes.

And I mean, I want to know the behind the scenes.

But the first question, of course, I mean, can you explain a little bit what is a love coach?

How did you become a love coach?

Okay, it sounds great.

So I became a, a so uh i just i was working in public relations i did that i have a degree in public relations and and i just didn't like it now i do pr for myself all the time and i love it but i just didn't like i didn't like it at the time and i was researching life coaching school so i got certified as a life coach at the time i was in a relationship i thought it was my soulmate i thought i had everything

turns out no he was a emotionally abusive cheating narcissist all the things but that was my intention like let me spread love to everybody and it was just like a big joke of the universe that i had to learn it for myself too

So I just wanted to help people with self-love.

Like I really just wanted to help people with that issue.

That was like a big issue for me and that's how I started and I started just like doing everything you could think of to try and find clients and it just kind of grew from there.

So okay, so let's say you find a client.

So how do you, I mean, I don't even know how to start.

I have so many questions.

Okay, let's say me.

I meet you and I'm like, obviously I need a love coach.

I was married.

This is why I started the podcast because my husband died.

And then I jumped after 15 years in the dating pool.

And I'm like, what the hell is going on?

It's chaotic, right?

What is the first thing you tell the person?

Like, what is the first step to working with you?

Okay, so first of all, I like to simplify things.

So I would say, like, listen, we got to look at your mindset, your heart, or your energy.

So most people are good in one and then they're kind of

like mindset, heart, and energy.

So your mindset is like how you're thinking about dating.

Is it like, everybody sucks.

I'll never find love again.

There's nobody.

That's your mindset, right?

And then your heart is like, Are you healed from your past?

Are you closed, right?

Did your parents kind of mess you up and now you just recreate that?

Like, the heart piece is that kind of stuff.

Like, what are you attracting?

Then there's your energy.

Like, bottom line, when people are around you or they see your dating profile, whatever it is, do they want to come closer or do they want to go farther away, right?

So, I always like assess people.

Like, let's look at your mindset.

Let's look at your heart.

Let's look at your energy.

Where do we need to go first?

Because, like, love advice isn't one size fits all.

I really hate that shit.

I hate like these kind of rules.

It like makes makes people crazy.

It makes people feel bad about themselves.

And it's not applicable for everybody.

So I just kind of go through and say, okay, maybe for you, we got to work on your heart.

Maybe it's close.

Maybe you're afraid of moving on.

Or maybe the opposite.

I think with me, it's the opposite.

I think I open up too fast.

Okay, so this is like the overgame remark.

There's also like, I have a whole quiz on this if you want to figure out what you're dating.

Or like you said, you know how like some people say to you, oh, I hate everybody.

I'm never going to find I think I'm kind of like the jailer.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like, oh, I meet the guy and I go on shoot through through this, like, oh, yeah, this is great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you project everything onto him.

You're really like the good one and the light and everything.

You project it onto him and he disappoints you and then you're like, why are we not good enough?

Ah.

So this is why I say it's not one size fits all.

Listen, people like you, you need to have boundaries.

You need to have a velvet rope around your heart.

Some people are so close, they need to like go on a few more dates and be open.

So you have to kind of like know yourself.

But if you're a person who gives too much, opens up too much, that has to do with you realizing that, like, forget everybody else and how they treated you forget forget that like what you've gotten is one-tenth of what you deserve and it's hard to imagine it's hard to like like you can say in your mind I want more ha ha ha

but to feel that like to really know no you cat you deserve ten times more than what you've had you're gonna say where that hasn't happened where am I gonna get it do people like that exist is it really possible so that's my job like I just kind of help people come back to the truth over and over again like this is what you deserve this is what you should go for.

This is how you should communicate.

Like, over and over again, I'm there.

So, when you're freaking out,

I'm there.

When you want to send a rude text, I'm there.

Don't do it.

Whatever it is, kind of like I'm there.

And, like, not to be dependent on me, because when I say it's I'm there, what I really mean is, like, all I'm doing is helping you connect to love inside.

It's not me.

It's just that voice.

You're just doing the guidance and helping us figure out the right mindset.

Yeah, yeah.

It's not like, I don't mean like it's me.

Like, I don't, I'm not like a guru.

It's really just love like but you say some like really interesting things that i've never heard before and you touch the point that i've interviewed experts quote unquote in the past um luxury matchmakers blah blah blah and most of them like you said they have these rules don't do this do that

and i am a person and i think for me tell me for your clients it's the same this is why i think dating is so daunting i don't like playing these games no no no i don't have time i don't have patience so like you know wait 48 hours to text If I like someone, I want to say hi.

I'm going to say good morning.

I'm going to say good afternoon.

I don't play games, but I sometimes I wonder if your back fires at me.

Or should we play games?

Should we not play games?

No, no, no, no, no.

Never play games unless you want a fear-based person.

Like, the rules only work on people like that.

Listen, your job is to be you.

Like, it's not easy, right?

Like, but your job is to be you,'cause you want the person who's you.

When I'm with my husband, like, I'm not calculating in my mind how to be with my husband.

Right.

You're just like, that's silly.

Yeah.

So, why wouldn't you be that in dating?

Like, you see what i'm saying so but a lot of girls they and i have a lot of girlfriends and i'm tell me if your clients are the same they literally believe oh if i make the guy wait he's gonna want me more if i'm late for the first date he's gonna respect more if i withhold we're gonna talk about this whole withholding sex but and i don't do any of these things and obviously i'm still single and it ends up like backfiring i mean so is that like a balance a certain kind of guy will like that but again those guys usually have intimacy issues or power so yeah, they like to play the games, but those guys don't really make good boyfriends.

It might be like they make they might be rich or they might have this, or they might have that.

They're not going to give you love, like those kind of guys don't give you real love.

So, it depends on what you want.

Maybe if you don't want love, play the games.

If you want real love, you have to be you

find the right person.

Not everybody's going to like that, not everybody likes a text right away, but some people love it.

And, like, what's so wrong with love?

Like, this is the thing that all the games have it backwards.

It's normal.

If you like somebody, you're happy to get a text from them.

If you're afraid, that's your intimacy issue, right?

It's not the person giving the love.

Totally.

And

on the same token, I think, and I learned that from experience as well and from doing the podcast, if you're dating someone or you just met someone and they stop texting, you stop responding, move on, right?

Yeah, there's no point in insisting because if the person likes you, there's nobody that busy in the world that they're not going to respond, correct?

Yeah, like you can't convince anybody.

This is the thing, like, but don't take it personally.

Like, how you have to see it is, I i represent love i represent a good time i represent like all this great energy some people they come close to it and they pull away it doesn't really have to do with you if you can depersonalize it and say this person's pulling away from love this person's pulling away from joy this person's pulling away from whatever it's not about you now listen i have had some clients where the guy freaks out and he pulls away yeah and then over time they get back together and it's a great relationship but this is how it has to work and this is the only way it works when we have that breakup of time, that's why I'm there.

So the girl's freaking out.

Oh, he left out.

She has to get to this place where she's like, I'm only going to have the relationship if it's even better than it was before.

I'm only going to have it if it works for me.

So her entire mentality flips from like, oh, I wasn't good enough to like, wait a minute, hello.

Like, if you're not ready for love, you are failing me.

You're not good enough for me.

So she changes her energy around.

She gets back into her own self-love and she's like, dude, I'm evaluating you.

Are you going to rise up?

Are you good enough for me?

Then he comes back, he's committed, and those relationships they tend to last, but it's not because she convinced him.

She actually pulled back, not out of a game, out of self-love.

Yeah, of course, self-love.

But okay, so that's the hard part.

First, if somebody that we like stops communicating, stops answering our text, the famous ghost, I can't

stand it.

I've done episodes about it.

I think it's so childish.

And I agree, like we should move on and say, I'm great.

I love myself.

I'm a freaking prize But it's hard like the self-esteem is bruised.

How do you tell people how do you handle that?

I mean tell your clients to handle that so you have I always say you gotta feel the feelings first like listen It's a feeling like you're a human being if you like somebody and they stop talking to you and you don't feel anything you're a psycho right like so it's like you're gonna feel the feeling but this is what people do they they're ouch he left or she left I'm hurting instead of just feeling the feeling they go and I'm never gonna find love and it's never going to work out for me.

And it happened to me three times, so it must be me and this and this.

And they add all this shit that isn't the feeling.

So feeling the feeling is okay and it's healthy.

But once you start to add, this means something about me not finding love.

This means something about me being deficient.

That's when it really goes sideways.

So you have to kind of discipline yourself of like, I'm going to feel the feeling, but then I don't just have to listen to these thoughts.

So one thing you could ask is, how is this situation moving me forward to my love goal how is it even if you're like this sucks well maybe it's showing you more of what you want maybe it's showing you i actually am kind of healing because like i don't want that anymore but it's showing you something so if you can focus on the growth what happens is when we grow when we progress we feel like we're winning no matter what so i created this whole thing called dating for growth it's too long to explain right now dating for growth because dating for dating for growth where can people find it um i have a podcast episode on it on my podcast.

I have like a whole episode on it.

And I have a module in one of my courses.

But basically, this is what I realized.

Dating makes people miserable because they're so focused on one outcome and one outcome only.

If I meet the one, I've succeeded.

It's so binary.

It's like only one way to win and a million ways to fail.

And then you feel horrible and you feel like crap.

So when I had to go date after leaving the relationship with narcissists.

It's tough.

Yeah.

Like, I was like, how am I going to win?

How am I going to win?

And I'm like, okay, I'm a growth-oriented person.

So if I can find how each date, disaster, whatever is moving me forward, I know I'm going to feel like I'm winning.

So after each date or each ghosting, I would just ask myself, how is this part of the manifestation?

So instead of seeing it as, I manifested my man and I won, see it as a line, a continuous line.

This part, the part you're in right now today, this, you hearing these words, is part of the manifestation.

It's not, well, I manifested it and now everything sucks.

This is part of it.

I love that.

It's just a part of the process.

And I tend to do that from, but of course, it's hurtful.

It's painful.

Like when somebody you're dating disappears or ghosts, you, I think, like I said, I think the biggest part for most girls, for most women, we blame ourselves.

And I'm saying men too, but in general, like girls, I think we're tougher on ourselves.

So like, and I've done that many times.

I go on one date to the guy, two dates, three dates, and I'm thinking in my mind, this is going well.

Yeah.

I want to get to know this person, and all of a sudden, the dude disappears.

We have the tendency of blaming ourselves.

It's something wrong with me.

What did I do?

No, and it's not.

But see, this is the thing.

I have years of experience of hearing from the other side and hearing from these women.

Like, the guys will come back or they'll say whatever.

And it has nothing to do with you.

It's only what you're triggering in them.

Or, like, listen, the reason people don't like you could be something silly.

Like, you have blonde hair and they had an ex when they were in fifth grade that dumped them.

And the girl girl had blonde hair and now they have a fear of women with blonde hair.

Like you don't know what's in somebody's mind, but usually it's not truthful.

If you showed up amazing and you know you're amazing, whatever is having them pull back is some some weird thing within them.

Like just like you have fears.

Nicole, do you think, and that's a question a lot of girls send to you.

Most people nowadays, we meet through dating apps.

That's a whole other subject.

And that kind of makes dating, you know, like ordering pizza for a lot of people.

So do you think a lot of men go on these dating apps and they kind of lie?

I want a relationship.

I want to meet somebody.

But they really just want like quick sex or somebody to take out to dinner.

So the minute they get what they want, they move on to somebody else.

I think there are people like that.

Yeah, of course.

Like there are people like that.

Is it everybody?

No.

Is it everybody?

No.

I mean, I met my husband on Tinder.

And listen what I say about that.

You did.

This is what I say about online dating.

Listen, I always say like, look at that.

You guys saw that.

Yeah, yeah.

But okay, but I had a strategy and my strategy was mental and emotional.

So before I even opened this app, I got in the mode of like, yes, I know there's a lot of crappy guys out there.

I don't care.

Like, I'm the woman who attracts the relationship-ready guys.

I kind of got that as my identity.

Like, I'm that woman.

I'm the one who's going to get those.

If they are there, I'm pulling them towards me.

And I believed it.

So

every time I saw a guy that wasn't that, I made it irrelevant.

So that's it.

Not my guy, not my guy, not my guy.

And I just focused on those guys.

And you can tell by how people show up.

Like, my husband, before we even went on the date, he's like, What are your dietary preferences?

Like, he was being extra thoughtful, you know what I mean?

And I could tell it wasn't just somebody who's like in it for sex.

So, are there a lot of guys who are in it for sex or Tinder swindlers or all kinds of crap?

Yeah, that exists, but you are in charge of what you pull to you.

And if you don't think you are, your dating life is really up to crap, like it's not in your hands.

And most people don't think their dating life is in their hands.

They feel like my dating life is just

something.

It's either like up to like God or whatever.

And yes, partly God.

I do think it's partly God.

But you're in control.

Yeah.

And if you don't feel like you're in control,

that's the issue.

That's what I help people with: getting in control so they are consciously attracting versus like, I'm just going to throw myself out to the sea of crap because it is a sea of crap.

It is.

I think it's, and I do, I don't use Tinder, but I use other dating apps now and again.

I think it's like finding a diamond in the sand.

You got to filter a lot to find that one person.

But like I said, a lot of serious men, nice, successful, whatever it is that you're looking for, they will look you in the eyes and say, yes, I want a relationship.

I'm serious.

And then you go out to them a few times.

and they disappear or move on or do whatever.

Is there any secret magic that you figured that out?

You got to feel it.

So, listen, like most women have the power of intuition.

Okay, if it's happening a bunch of times to you it's usually something within you okay either your belief system thinking this is all there is either your worthiness of thinking maybe i don't deserve the full commitment something within you so if i always say if it happens once or twice whatever if it happens more than three times and you attract the same guy more than three times that's when you want to look at like honestly truly what are my expectations like your expectations are creating your reality people get this in like business and sometimes with fitness but I think for your love life it's really hard to get that what you're expecting, what you're feeling, all of that, what you fear, it determines what you attract.

So I would ask, like, is there something in me that feels like this is all there is?

Is there something in me that can't imagine me attracting something different?

And if there isn't, just focus on that.

Because it's like people get so upset when they go on dating apps and they see a bunch of people that are not what you want.

But like every day, if you walk down the streets of Los Angeles, you might see two people that you're attracted to, but you're not going to every person that you see.

Oh, you're not it.

Like you're just letting I know that's the tough thing.

I think these dating apps, I mean, I get exhausted.

I honestly don't have the time or the patience to like open the dating apps every single day and it's time consuming.

Yeah, so you have to be focused.

So like what I would do is I would just swipe on anybody that I didn't even read profiles that much because

I don't, I just followed.

I'm like, whatever, like let me swipe, let me swipe.

Like that's why I like Tinder because it's like very easy.

I'm not going to read profiles because that's, I mean, somewhat, but it's only like a little bit of information, right?

And then I would only message the people who messaged me back, and then I would only go out with the people who showed an appropriate level of interest.

So, right.

For me, it wasn't hard because I'm like, I'm going to go in the morning, I'm going to go in the afternoon, I'm going to say yes only to the people who are good.

So,

it's like the mental, emotional drain of your emotional reaction to all the crappy people is what's most tiring.

Ah, so true, so true.

You make some amazing points.

I personally,

this is what I do, and I want to know your opinion if you think it's a good idea or not.

If I go through a period of going through a lot of crappy dates and I'm feeling a little tired, I kind of go like on a man diet.

I came up with this for my podcast.

And by man diet, I mean like I literally take a break.

Like last summer,

after going through a bunch of bad relationships, I said, you know what, I'm going to spend three months concentrating on me, on my projects, on my health, on my body.

I'm going to take a break.

And I think sometimes for me, when I just do that, and I'm not saying it has to be three months, maybe for somebody else, it's two weeks, a month, I come back feeling better.

And maybe I might be an even better partner for somebody else because I'm not feeling crappy anymore.

Yeah.

And if you feel better, that's great.

So in general, when people say take a break, I'm like, ugh, because they don't use the break in a useful way, right?

So they take a break, but they're not taking a break from their thoughts and their mind about how they'll never find love.

They take a break, but they're not doing that.

So if you're going to take a break and you're going to actually use that time to shift,

that's good.

But I'm the opposite.

Like, I know a lot of people say I'm never going to find love.

I am the endless.

I'm romantic.

I think like love is there.

And if we give up on love, all the crappy people win, you know, and they're bitter.

That's our thing is the bitter people.

Like, I would rather have you open your heart a million times because you're going to stay more youthful.

You're going to look more beautiful.

Like, the women

close their heart.

I know.

They really, actually, I think, physically get dried out in their appearance.

No, and you're so right.

And like I said, they get bitter and hard, and I think you transmit that energy.

Right?

Yeah.

No, yeah, I'm not like that.

I'm actually, I'm going to keep trying and trying and trying and trying.

Yeah, yeah, you're like the JLo.

So I have like these archetypes, the dating archetypes.

You can take that.

I don't have like a, I'll give you the link, but like, I have them in different types.

And so one of them is like the JLo, which is like the overgiving market.

She keeps trying.

She keeps trying and she keeps trying, but her problem is, you know, she like she wasn't always picking the best guys.

Now she's back with Ben.

But let me ask you a question about J-Lo then.

She doesn't take a break.

She does the opposite.

She literally jumps from one engagement to the other guy.

Like, I'm not going to be alone for a minute.

Is that a good idea?

No, and I think it's blown up in her face because then, like, listen, the problems follow her, right?

They follow her.

But, like, I don't know if she's changed or not, but I would say, like, it seems as if she's approaching things a little bit differently.

You see,

the wild card is I'm like, is Ben healed?

Right.

That's the thing I'm worried about.

Can Men change?

Ben healed because he's still, I see him smoking those cigarettes.

Nothing happens.

I don't know.

Sometimes when I see pictures of him, I'm like,

he seems like there's something going on.

So we'll see.

But that's the point.

For somebody like you or like a J-Lo, you got to say, like, is the person that I'm dating healed enough?

Are they, um, are they a good enough person?

Are they going to treat me well?

Not just like, I want the love, I want the love, I want the love.

Like, you got to have your boundaries.

Yeah.

With me, I do not jump from one relationship to the other.

I'm a little gun shy, but I'm constantly trying and hoping.

And I'm

like I said, a hopeless romantic.

I believe in love and the fairy tale and all this crap, but I get pickier and pickier and pickier.

Like you said, if I'm swiping through the app,

I say maybe 200 no's and like, okay, maybe I'm gonna meet this guy.

And then before I meet him in person, tell me if you think this is okay or not.

I kind of do my due diligence.

Like, who are you?

Where do you work?

What's your name?

Let's text.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's figure out if I have things in common because I want to protect myself, make sure like I'm talking to somebody that I actually want to meet.

For somebody like you, with your archetype, yes, absolutely.

You check on the upfront.

For somebody who's not dated in 10 years and they're so close and they like pick at everybody, then they have to be more open.

So it depends.

Yeah.

But for somebody like you, vetting people, or like, let's say you're a single mom, vet people all day long because you have to pay a babysitter to go out.

I have to pay a pet sitter.

You know what I mean?

So if you have a situation like that, vet people, like, you know what I mean?

Like, so listen, vetting doesn't mean you're analyzing the checklist in your mind.

It means you're looking at them.

You're seeing, how are they as a person?

How do I feel in my heart?

Do I feel like a weird feeling?

Do I feel like really high?

That's when you feel really high about somebody, usually that's your ego, right?

But usually if it's somebody who's a good match, how you're going to feel is excited, but peaceful.

It's not this crazy high.

It's excited.

You have a light energy, but there's this this peace on the inside when you think about that person.

So you should be looking for that energy.

If you feel bad, if you get a weird feeling, listen, especially in LA, like, don't go out that person.

There's some crazy people out there.

Yeah, because a lot of people send this question time and time again.

Oh, my God, there's so many liars.

I've been catfished.

I say, why are you being catfished?

Why don't you double check that the person is who they say they are before you go meet them?

right yeah well the people who are catfished a lot like i have a lot of compassion but i noticed that it happens to them multiple times So, again, this is a pattern if you're letting yourself be catfished.

People who let themselves be catfished, they want love so badly, they're willing to ignore their signs.

They believe what they want to believe in.

So, that's it.

It's not your fault.

Listen, if it happens one time, like, but if it keeps happening to you, you have to take responsibility and say, like, I'm not going to just want love so badly.

Like, don't give anybody money.

Like, why are you giving people money?

Like, they should be giving you money.

Why are you not giving people money?

Don't you?

And I think I have compassion and I feel bad, but let's be honest.

Like, if a guy you just met is calling you and asking for money over the phone, I think people, like, maybe their desperation to be loved, they're believing in what they want to believe.

Because you can't buy love, right?

No, no, no.

Like, that's, I'm not going to say delusional, but it's along those lines, you know?

And usually, those kind of people, there is this desperation.

And desperate, when you're desperate, you do bad things.

Like, desperate energy is never.

And the other person, and a lot of men say that.

I've had a lot of male guests on my podcast, they don't like to feel that the woman is desperate.

No, no, no, no, no.

It's not attractive.

You know, desperate is like, if this person doesn't love me, I'm never going to have it.

So at the core is lack.

Listen,

I just told this to a client this morning where I'm like, listen, like, there's a lot of people you could love.

Like, I know it doesn't feel that way.

And I know when you're not seeing it and you're like, I only like this guy.

I've never seen any other guy that's as good.

It doesn't feel like it.

But if you just think think about life, it's like you do meet people eventually.

The only people that don't meet people are the ones who get bitter and closed, and they're doing it to themselves.

Yeah.

You're going to meet someone.

Like you, like, it would be improbable if you never met anyone for the rest of your life.

I agree.

No, like I said, as long as I'm alive and I want to keep trying because I like being in a relationship, I miss being in a relationship.

And like I said, I think if you give up on love, other than making you just an unhappy, bitter person, all the assholes that you dated win.

Like, congratulations, you ruined my belief in love.

Yeah, and like, I think it's really silly to let someone else's fear and shitty behavior

stop you, you know, from having what you want.

That's like when I broke up with the narcissist, and he, it was so bad in so many ways.

But I remember telling this to myself, I'm like, Nicole, you don't get to close.

Like, you are not going to close your heart because why let this person win?

And they're going to be gone and find some person.

They don't care.

Yeah, they don't care about you.

No, no, no.

And I was like, I can't.

Like, why am I going to do that?

So, again, as long as you stay open, but stay open, but keep improving your standards.

Like, for you specifically, I would say write a list of what you want in a person and then cross it out and say, what's 10 times better?

That's actually what you deserve.

10 times better than what you think.

It is truly.

I think if you see my list, my few friends that see my profile, they're like, oh, my God, you're being so tough.

And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

Honestly, yes, if you don't fit certain requirements, I'm being completely honest.

I don't want to be disrespectful to anybody but i don't want a dude like that doesn't have a job because not because i want your money but i want somebody that can at least keep up with my lifestyle i work super hard you know what i mean so i have these little standards that i already put out there and and if they don't match that i mean like you said so i so i pull out that's good for you and listen like i always say this if you're if you're bringing it you can ask for it if you're bringing it if you're bringing the energy yeah ask for it because if you're not being picky because underneath every single thing you're saying you want there's a reason somebody without a job it's not that you want their money it's that they might not be motivated they might be depressed that's the real reason why so i always say people listen look at your list of qualities and look at every single one and ask yourself but why do i really want this right if it's because of your ego then let that go but if it's because of like a real true thing yeah that's your blueprint that's literally your soul saying this is what's going to make me happy so you might as well listen to it but then that's where the faith piece comes in you got to believe that that person exists.

Totally.

I believe it.

We're going to take a two-minute break.

This episode is packed with such helpful information.

I hope you girlies and men too listen to your advice.

And when we come back, I have to ask about sex.

Yeah, I know.

Because of course, it's like the biggest issue.

It's the biggest debate.

We always get hundreds of questions about it.

Should we withhold sex?

Should we not withhold sex?

It's been so controversial on my podcast.

I'm dying to ask it.

We'll be right back.

Nicole Moore, the love coach.

And we still have to talk about your.

I am dying.

I am so curious about it.

We'll be right back.

We'll be right back.

All right.

I'm back with Nicomo.

Try to pack as much information as we possibly can because you have so much to say.

Sex.

I've had experts, luxury matchmakers that I interviewed in the past, and it's been very controversial because a lot of them say if you meet someone, you go on one date, two dates, withhold sex.

Don't have sex too soon.

If you have sex too soon, they're not going to respect you.

They're not going to want to have a relationship with you.

Is that in general true?

No, you're not.

Okay, so like you're not a prostitute.

You're not bartering sex for something.

Like people think

about it.

I agree.

We actually, one time I used this expression, don't withhold your vagina hostage, because a lot of guys are going to say, hey, what are you doing?

I'm going to go and have sex with somebody else.

Okay, this whole thing about, oh, sex too soon.

First of all, there are couples.

Look at Goldie Hahn slept with Court Russell on the first date.

I think think she's

like there, I slept with my husband on the third date for everybody who wants to know.

But here's what I want to know.

Here's what I will say.

Listen, should you sleep with a person or not?

It depends on you.

If you're going to have a panic attack or be depressed for a month because you slept with a guy and he didn't call you back, don't do it for you because you don't want to go through that.

So I always say, listen, if you could sleep with somebody and the next day or a couple of days after, you're back on track.

You're fine.

You've lost nothing.

But if you're the kind of person where you're going to be miserable for a month because you slept with somebody and they didn't call you back,

don't do it.

There's no rules.

But the question is for women specifically, if I decide to have sex with a guy too soon, he's not gonna respect me, he's not gonna want a relationship with me, you're leaving proof that that's not true.

No, no, a certain kind of person, again, the guys who are like, I need to, I need to chase people and I need to do this, they are on a hunt for something that's not even going to be fulfilled by anyone.

They're on a hunt for a bunch of women, maybe.

So, like, those kind of people, yeah, if you have sex with them too soon, they're going to discard you.

But those guys are not hunting for a real relationship.

So, it's like, again, it's the kind of person, right?

But if you really like somebody and you have a great connection and they're available for a relationship and you sleep with them on the first date, they're not going to be like, oh my God, let me make up a bunch of stuff about her.

Yeah.

Like, so many, I know of so many relationships where they had sex in the beginning.

It has to do with the person.

So, for alpha guys, for chaser guys, if you have sex with them too soon, they will leave.

But it's not like they wouldn't have left anyway.

Or they'll commit and they'll cheat.

Yeah, so true.

And we were saying off-camera, I think that's what has happened to me in the past a few times.

I have the tendency of really like alpha men because on my work, I'm always in charge and charge and charge.

My personal life, I want a guy that has a very strong personality, very successful.

And yeah, in the beginning, everything goes great.

They don't feel intimidated by my work, da da da.

And then after two, three dates, we have sex, then we have sex again, and then all of a sudden, they're like, I'm too busy, I'm traveling, da da da da.

But that's probably, it has nothing to do with me, right?

No, it has to do with the guy.

So, think about like somebody like George Clooney.

You see how he's all about a mall now, and he's like, He literally will be like, My important wife, and he'll joke like he's just an actor.

That's a change within him.

He couldn't get a girl, couldn't get him to commit to save her life,

no matter how beautiful

for years until he something changed within him.

And he's he's a strong guy but he's not an alpha anymore he's seated in his work but he's able to let her shine that's the kind of person you should be looking for he's already in his worth he's he's centered in himself yeah he's already powerful he's not chasing something out there he's in himself i'm good i'm he's like comfortable and i think it takes the one woman like in his case that said okay that's it and time and time and time look how old he was i mean 50 something i think when they but nowadays a lot of the 50 50-somethings are going nuts.

Like, they're having a post-midlife crisis and, like, they want to date everybody.

Because they didn't go, they feel like they missed out or something and they didn't want to, you know what I mean?

So it still has to do with time, right?

It still has to do with people getting to a certain level of like emotional maturity.

So instead of looking for the guy who's like outwardly powerful, like chasing goals in the world, look for the person who is really like kind of like within their powerful.

Not, ah, I don't feel powerful.

Because a lot of those alpha guys, they don't really feel that powerful.

That's why they're sleeping with all these women.

That's why they're doing all this stuff.

So it's a subtle energy that you're looking for.

So they could have money.

They could have businesses.

But are they like seated within themselves?

How do we find out?

Because that's what all the girls ask.

You meet the guy, he takes you on a nice date, da-da-da, and he looks you in the eye and say, I want a relationship.

How do you know if they're telling you the truth or not?

Pay attention to his, not just his words, what is his relationship with himself.

So not just does he seem cocky and like he's confident about his business success.

How does he feel within himself?

Does he have a lot of fear within himself?

Like, what is his relationship with himself?

Ask him about those kinds of questions.

Like, have you, like, I'm into personal development.

Like, have you ever done that kind of stuff?

Like, if somebody hasn't done any personal development, most of the time, they're not going to be a good match for what you are looking for.

If you want a basic relationship, then don't go for that.

But usually, with men, it's either pain, like life, they lost somebody, they went through an addiction, something usually for men, something really bad has to happen to them, and they're humbled and they gotta do.

That's true.

Like, my husband went through a divorce, and then he said, for a year, he worked on himself.

He was like, and then he's like, I'm gonna date.

And that was his first Tinder date.

He's so freaking lucky.

But he is so fucking damned.

He went through a divorce and his sister died.

And I know that sounds crazy, but

men usually they have to be dragged to the fire to do the freaking work.

So sometimes a guy who's been through it will not like, oh, I climbed the carpet ladder and I'm so good in my business.

That makes so much money.

No, like, have you been through it?

Because then you're going to be able to have a real relationship.

Makes sense.

So speaking of divorce, how long after a divorce do you think in general men are ready to say, yes, I am ready?

That's a tough one, right?

The divorce guy is a tough one, right?

The problem with the divorce guys is a lot of times they like want the love, so they'll get in the relationship with you, and then all their fear comes up, and then they're pulling away.

They're like, I don't want the same thing to happen again.

I don't want to fail.

So, oh, the divorce guys, those are usually we have to like, we have to like let them go a little bit slower.

Like, usually, a divorce guy needs to go a little bit slower.

He might be dating you, but you might notice, like, he's lagging and going all the way in, you know?

And again, if this, they got it, they gotta face their own fear.

but so it's it's not necessarily the amount of time although if he's just if he's just getting divorced or if he's separated some separated people really have done the healing process a lot haven't so i would say at least three months if not six months but even more so has he faced what they have to face is is he willing to fail again because if he's not willing to fail again you're not going to have a good relationship with him and or a lot of them get divorced and for a while they want to go out there and go out with a bunch of women and they just want to have casual sex so i think you got to be careful with those as well right so they don't hurt you because is it true the saying hurt people hurt people absolutely yeah yeah yeah absolutely freaking lutely they all do they all do i agree it happened to me for the first time i was dating a guy he he didn't go through a divorce but basically he had a long-term girlfriend living with him

and one day and he was madly in love he was gonna propose and she up and left she He came home and she was gone.

And I know this guy for many, many years.

Everybody knows the story in my podcast.

So I started getting tangled up with him.

And I was really into it.

And a few weeks, a few months into it, he literally like just broke my, oops, stop.

I don't want to.

That's not what I want.

And it really hurt me because I thought I knew him for so long.

And I think he hurt me in certain ways so badly.

Like basically he said on my birthday, the day of my birthday, you know, like I'm sorry I don't want to do this yeah like and I think he was kind of hurting me to to feel better about his hurt in a way yeah absolutely listen the guys who've been if they've been cheated on if somebody left them or if they gotten divorced yeah they tend to guys are so freaking sensitive right right they tend to more than us right yeah and there it's like this I don't want to fail it's like it's a lot about their ego too yeah so I'm not saying you can't be with a guy like that, but you have to be really honest.

Like, listen, your love is not powerful enough to save this person I just told this to somebody too I'm like listen to fear is illogical so if somebody's in fear and you're like I'm the most amazing perfect love in the world they're not gonna just go for it like they fear is very powerful look at the world today fear is like it's not more powerful than love but people think it is Yeah, and I think you are absolutely right.

I've tried that in the past.

It doesn't work.

Don't try to save someone from anything.

They are going to do whatever they want to do.

I think if they want to be with you, they're going to be with you.

But if they have their own issues, they're not going to change for you, right?

This is what I say to people who are like waiting.

Listen, you have to think about the collateral damage, okay?

So if you're waiting on somebody to change, how much collateral damage are you willing to incur?

Two months, three months, six months, a year, five years, because you will be in pain until they change.

So, what's your tolerance and what damage?

Is this person worth the collateral damage?

Look at Chloe.

I just watched the season episode finale of The Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

Oh, yeah.

And Chloe's like Chloe is like, oh, I was hoping that me and True were good enough for me to change.

That's a lot of collateral damage.

I never watched it, but I see, of course, on social media and everything, and I'm thinking, girly, this guy is a player.

He's young.

It's like you're saying, oh, look at me.

I'm on the top of my career.

I'm so hot and everything.

He's going to cheat and cheat and cheat, right?

Yeah, and so she was hoping that her love could be good enough.

I have no doubt that she's a great girlfriend.

Yeah.

You can see it.

You could see how much she loves.

But it's not that she's not good enough it's just that he's not healed right and I in a way I think it's his personality

I think if the guy like he's super young he's like in his 20s he's a gazillionaire a lot of guys in their 20s they start making a lot of money there's a lot of women after them it's pathological at this point

there's some pathological I agree if you could do that over and over and over again and not there's something pathological going on there but again it's like such a it's a great example of like it doesn't matter how good you are she had to incur so much collateral damage.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

And so, and sometimes people change, but usually, like, listen, if somebody has an issue now, just think about how long it's taken you to change things in your life.

Totally.

Why are they going to do it faster than you?

It takes a while to change patterns.

And I think the hardest thing for most women, I'm not saying all of them, is moving on.

They keep insisting, insisting, especially if they have a baby.

Oh,

no man is going to change because you have a baby with them, period.

But I think, and I learned that after being married for 15 years and actually doing my podcast, self-love first.

Move the hell on.

You need to love yourself more.

I do not like girls humiliating themselves after guys.

It breaks my heart.

This is the mantra you need to take in.

I'd rather lose him than lose me.

That's the only point of power.

Period, right?

I'd rather lose him than lose me.

The only point of power is in saying, if it's not what I want, I'm going to move on.

Of course, you don't want to do that.

Nobody wants to do that.

But if you don't, you are choosing the pain, and then you're responsible for it.

Totally, I do these things like, and I learned after a long time.

I literally look at myself in the mirror, like it's your loss.

I am great, I'm fabulous, I'm intelligent, I am hot, I like sex, it's your

totally good.

I don't blame me anymore.

Yeah, I think I'm a freaking prize.

Yes, you are, you are, absolutely.

And listen, again, not everyone is gonna see that, right?

Of course, not, yeah, but there will be, and not even just one, there could be multiple people that see you that way.

And so you're trying to attract that energy to you.

That's what you want to do.

Focus on the energy.

So when somebody doesn't like you, it hurts for a second.

But then

you have the moment to say, what energy do I want?

What energy am I calling towards me?

If that person were here right now and they were in front of me, how would they feel?

How would they look at me?

What would they say?

What would they do?

And you get into the vibration of that kind of experience until you attract it.

I mean, that's manifesting.

Yeah.

And do you agree?

If you are not wasting your energy with the wrong person that doesn't want you, you're opening up the way to finding the right person, right?

Absolutely.

Absolutely freaking lootly.

I mean, listen, at the end of the day, if it's not the right situation, it will take an act of God usually to change that person.

You know what I mean?

Like, this is the thing.

Like, I think like a lot of people probably that follow your podcast and certainly that follow me are growth oriented, personal development, working on ourselves.

You have to understand that at least two-thirds of the population is not in that place right now.

They're not trying to change themselves.

Either they're just trying to survive or whatever, they're not in that place.

You know what I mean?

So, this is why it's like for the women out there, if you're single, being not, he doesn't have to like go to workshops and like do ayahuasca on the weekend, but somebody that has this thing inside of him to say, I want to grow as a person, as a human being, themselves, not you forcing them.

I think that should be the number one thing that people look for.

Absolutely.

And what do you say?

You have a client.

Your clients are men as well, or just women?

Men when it's a couple that I'm working with.

Okay, so you say, and she looks at you like, but I love him, but I love him.

What do you say?

Listen, this is the thing for women.

Like, I think men are more logical sometimes.

And it's like, well, here's the love, but here's all the other considerations.

And women are just wired, but I love him.

Listen, you could love somebody, but but is it workable?

Like you could love somebody, but does this dynamic work long term?

You could love somebody, but how do they treat you?

You have to step back from the love and look at all the other things because love is not enough.

So I get it.

I really get it.

Listen, I was convincing myself all day long that this narcissist who had already cheated on me, by the way, and I knew multiple times and told me I'm saving for a ring, Nicole, but then he was literally cheating on me.

The day I came to see him, he had cheated with somebody in the morning.

And then I like slept with him that night.

I had the same story on Valentine's Day.

I'm not freaking kidding.

I did an episode called Valentine's Day that turned into Halloween.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, it was a freaking pig that I did.

Yes.

Yeah.

And it's like you feel gross, right?

Like you feel gross.

And you're not going to believe it.

I forgave him.

And I dated him another more than a year.

And he cheated on me again on my birthday.

birthday.

Yeah, yeah.

See, it's like, I get it.

When you laugh.

It took me forever to say, you know what, enough.

but I would never put up with this shit now.

Yeah, yeah, because you went through that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So a lot of people who like love a lot, it's weird, like the lovers, like we're like the lovers and we see the good in people, but we have such a high tolerance for being treated like crap.

And so

unfortunately nowadays I don't anymore.

Yeah, because life

had enough.

Yeah, I'm not kidding.

I think doing the podcast and saying it out loud, the stories and having people listen to it, was very healing to me.

And it made me feel like I am never going to go through this shit ever ever again yeah yeah you don't you don't deserve that you don't deserve that well I keep telling you what you deserve is 10 times more even than what you think even than what you want right now it's it's 10 times more and that's the other thing people need to understand about being with the right person is like love can grow so this thing about you get in a relationship and then it's crap and then whatever like love can grow over time so if you're in a relationship and it's stalled it's not working it's getting worse that's when you need to look at it and say okay like what are my expectations do I expect it to just get bad?

Because it shouldn't be that way.

It's like, you don't think your body's going to break down over time.

You do stuff to get it better.

Love doesn't help you.

And it shouldn't hurt.

I think,

and speaking from experience, if you're miserable at home, you're wondering, what is he doing?

Is he cheating?

Is he going to invite me out on a weekend?

It shouldn't be like that.

It should make you, like I said, happy and light and fulfilled, right?

It shouldn't keep you guessing, guessing, guessing and crying, crying, crying.

No, and like, listen, like, you're going to have challenges in any relationship, but like, can you communicate?

Can you work through it?

Can you use it to get stronger?

If that's not happening, then it might either not be the right relationship or you do need to get some support to like heal the issues.

I think a lot of people tolerate such crap in their love life, and then they all, their girlfriends are going through the same crap, so it feels normal.

It's like, oh, this is just how it is.

Like, we should just tolerate this.

And, like, you don't have to tolerate it.

I think women, if I really just wish all all the women in the world would band together and sign some pact and be like this later

none of us I gotta sleep with the married men none of us I gotta do this like we have so much power if we all decide together

I wish and my work is always like that about empowering women and being friends with men it's kind of sad that not all women are like that but I totally hear you like you should have loyalty to your friends to other women don't do to them what you don't want them to do to you yeah yeah and I've had even I've had clients who they were like can you I want to get this married man can you help me get this

get a lot

gonna do that I'm not gonna help you get this married man I can only help you manifest your own version but what I've seen with those kinds of women is like

I have compassion in a way because again it's just this desperation for love and they really believe in their mind that the only person that can give it to them is that married man.

So it doesn't make it right, but that's why I'm like, we all kind of have have to heal and like sign this declaration of women all together.

Totally.

And have some minimum standard.

Yeah.

Especially when it comes to being married or in a relationship or even dating someone.

There are plenty single people out there.

I believe in karma and I believe in energy and I don't want to do to anybody, you know, what I don't want them to do to me.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Let's talk about your TV show because I'm so excited.

Yeah, so it's called Reality of Love and it's like a topic.

Reality of Love.

Yeah, so basically I started like coaching reality it wasn't like i planned this but i started coaching some like reality stars and different like actresses and people like that and so it like i just kind of evolved into that and then i you know i've always wanted to do tv stuff so the show is each episode has a different theme there's six episodes for season one and we have reality stars from different franchises like there's an episode on the housewives and then there's an episode on people who are single now they went on tv to find love but they're still single and so we chat about what's going on their love lives and like the behind the scenes and then we'll do like a little fun game in each episode to kind of like help their love lives so it's like a talk show with a little bit of personal development thrown in there through the lens of these reality stars um i love watching reality oh my god me too i don't have a lot of time but i definitely like it i'm not gonna lie it's like a guilty pleasure it's good it is and it kind of breaks my heart sometimes to watch it because it's tough enough dating when not all eyes are on you I'm not on TV, but obviously my work is super public and I think it affects how people date me.

Like, even just doing the podcast, a lot of men approach me and they think, oh my gosh, she bangs different guys every night.

She has sex all the time because she does the sex podcast.

They misread me, and it definitely affects my life.

I cannot even imagine doing that on TV.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, people project a lot of stuff.

And so, we talked about that on the show, like that some of the singles, like what they're getting, the DMs, and like how people will, like, they watch them on TV and they expect them to be like the T V character.

Right.

And so, that's kind of like what we talk about on the show, but everybody can relate because it's just like love and love stuff in general.

So that's coming out in August.

Season one's coming out in August.

Oh beyond Direct TV and a whole bunch of other places.

And then we're filming season two in the fall.

That is so exciting.

I cannot wait to watch it.

And

I think, I don't know if I interviewed somebody that is on your show, but I interviewed two

guys.

One was he was a bachelor on a bachelorette and he's still single.

And I interviewed one girl that was in a show marrying millions oh yeah yeah yeah jantier now yeah

she's my favorite oh i loved her she's the sweetest thing on this planet and she's so powerful and a lot of people send that question to ask her and ask you do you think

most men or a lot of men are intimidated by powerful women and in a way that's why it's so hard for powerful women to actually find the right relationships.

Yeah, yeah, I do think they are.

I think they are.

I don't think the powerful women are wrong, but I think that a lot of people don't have fundamentally have confidence in themselves.

And so they are intimidated, right?

So the powerful woman represents what these guys are not able to achieve.

Not that they couldn't do it, but they're not for whatever reason.

And so they project a whole bunch of stuff.

So somebody like Jean T, who's, but she's in a pattern and she knows it.

Like, she just keeps attracting these guys and use her.

And it's like a whole pattern.

Yeah.

So we talk about it like a little bit on the

episode, the singles episode.

So a lot of people are, you could say they're intimidated by women with power for sure.

But again, that's where you have the choice to say, well, where are the men who love women's power?

Where are the men who want that kind of person?

And can I attract that one?

Yeah.

Not shrinking.

I think women are past that now.

Like, we're not going to shrink

for the guys.

Please, please be past it because, listen, like that dude who's intimidated by you is not reaching his full potential because of some fear fear within him.

Exactly.

If you let him diminish your potential for what?

So he can be a shitty boyfriend at best.

Like what is the freaking point of it, right?

Well Ellie, you might as well just reach your own potential.

I know, amen.

But you know, a lot of guys, at least with me and I think with Jean-Tilchu and other girls that I interview, in the beginning, they say like, oh, I'm totally fine with your job, with your money, with your work.

For me, they're like, oh, I think it's so cool that you do the podcast.

But, you know then i realize like they start getting more and more uncomfortable about what it is and then you listen you that's as soon as you notice them being uncomfortable that's when you have to either get out or you speak up and you say very plainly and clearly i like you what i require in relationships is somebody who is okay with how much power i have because they're in their own power if that's you great if it's not you that's not doesn't work for me you have to be empowered to know totally what is your standards and be willing to communicate that and yeah like in general though if you let the wrong people in so much the danger is they hurt you and you make it about you yeah so that's the only thing is like let go quicker if you realize they're not going to change now i will say this somebody could have a fear for a moment and they could be a little bit afraid and then they could choose you like they could choose it so you always can give the communication you know you don't just have to boot people out you communicate right like my husband, when we, I have this thing, like, I used to talk about flirting so much.

I don't talk about flirting that much anymore, but he, like, we went on a date and then, like, he read my flirting guide, like, in between our flirting guide date.

And then, like, he was at my house, and I did something, and he was like, oh, I think you're doing, like, the flirting.

And I was just like, no.

And I was like, well, does that freak you out?

And he said, he's like, no, but like, I'm like, it does make me a little bit nervous of like, I don't know, I don't know what he was afraid of.

More like, maybe I'm the kind of woman that like knows how to get my way with men.

So he communicated that fear to me.

So if somebody is self-aware and they come to you and they're able to communicate the fear, that's different than a guy who's just like, oh, you know, like, he's so unaware of the fear, he doesn't even know he has the fear, but he's acting like an asshole.

So if somebody's self-aware, communicate, state what you want, see if they can rise up.

But if not, let them know.

In my case, a lot of them say, oh my my God, you're going to talk about me on your podcast.

Yeah.

Yeah, but this is my answer.

I'm not going to lie.

I say, yes.

If you're an asshole, you will probably be a good episode.

But if you're a decent person, I will probably say really nice things about you.

So if you have good intentions, if you have good ethics, if you're a nice person, even if we don't end up together, I might say something great.

But if you're a player and you do something horrible to me, yeah, I might.

But I never name names, by the way.

Yeah.

But yeah.

But this is true, though.

They are going to do it.

It's kind of like, okay, let's look at Kim Kardashian dating Pete Davidson.

Not that he wasn't famous before, but now he's under a whole different level of scrutiny, but he's also getting more bad.

This one, because I know a lot of people are there.

Isn't she jumping on too fast?

She said that she took 10 months to heal, but I don't know what was going on behind the scenes.

I actually analyzed their body language for an article when it first came out, and it looked like Kim was very much leading the relationship.

And now it's kind of like the energy has switched.

So

listen.

Isn't she another one that never stays alone?

Yeah.

I think she said that on TV, like, I like her relationship, period.

Yeah.

I mean, she said that she took 10 months.

So I don't know how much healing she did.

We never know.

Listen, was it enough time to heal from everything Kanye did to her?

I don't think so.

We don't even know, right?

I don't think so.

I think

she's judging because I think only a couple knows what's going on behind closed doors.

So we don't even know what happened there.

I think, like, I wish, like, somebody like a Kim Kardashian, if she would be in the relationship with Pete, but also get love coaching.

You You know what I mean?

So like...

Kim, love coach, love coach, Nicole Moore.

No, no, no, but seriously, because

I agree.

Because if you're with somebody, have you tried reaching out?

No, but if you're married to somebody for that many years that has,

I don't want to label Kanye, but let's just say he's a, he's a, he can be problematic at times.

That's a long time.

And like, she kind of gives little snippets where she'll say, like, that she'll admit that he was a little controlling and that she says very little out of respect for her kids.

Yeah.

But if she's with somebody for that long, it's not that you can't be in a new relationship, but she probably still has some healing to do.

Especially with kids involved and all that.

Yeah, so

that's the thing.

Even if you're in a relationship, you can still have a love of relationship coach to help you, you know, like work through.

And not make the same mistakes maybe that you made with the first one.

Yeah, but like, look at it.

So Pete, listen, he's going to have more scrutiny now.

Like, he's still dating her.

Like, it comes with the territory.

For you,

it comes with the territory.

You're going to, who knows, five years from now, you might be on the cover of magazines, you might be in this and that and television.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, so I would assume, I would, I would assume this for yourself.

I'm only gonna get bigger.

I'm only gonna have more.

Yeah, we're not gonna stop doing what we do.

Yeah, so you might as well have somebody a partner that is confident totally.

You nailed it.

How do people find you?

Okay, find me on Instagram.

I love Instagram.

I do too.

Find me on Instagram at NicoleMoore Love.

My website is loveworksmethod.com.

I have a podcast.

I haven't recorded in a long time, but the stuff there is really good.

It's Love Works with Nicole Moore.

If you just Google Nicole Moore, you'll find.

And when is it?

What day in August?

So it's premiering August 25th.

It'll be on Direct TV, channel 234.

I'm going to have tons of clips and stuff on my YouTube.

Oh, my God.

I love the sharing clips.

And season two is also celebrities.

Yeah, yeah.

So we're going to have more celebs from different reality shows, different topics, talking about love and relationships.

Oh my god.

They say things that the cool thing is, like they talk about things that they don't talk about in other interviews because it's like really their love lives.

So they get a little bit more

deep, yes.

Oh my god, this is so much fun.

Thank you, Nicole.

I'm sure I'm going to have hundreds of questions for you, so I'm definitely going to invite you to.

Yeah, send it my way.

I know.

You are amazing.

Because I got to tell you, and I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

Sometimes I have people here that they give this crazy advice, and I'm like, ugh.

But you actually have, you say things that really make us think, like change the behavior, do the right thing, like totally worth it.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean,

not to knock any, no, I don't want to knock anybody, but I won't say that.

Me neither.

If you could tell when somebody's regurgitating something versus like what is

real, real truth.

Exactly.

So, yeah.

Like, the main thing I always want people to know is really there isn't a rule.

It's you being the most you and finding the person.

I guess that's what I want to say.

Don't come and say, this is the room for that.

Because love is different.

It's not one size fits all.

You just have to do what feels right for you, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

You are amazing.

Thank you so much.

It's such an honor.

Thank you.

Nicole Moore, Cat on the Loose for your Tuesday, first day of summer, and it's so hot.

So I'm sorry.

If you can see me right now, I got sweat in my upper lip.

Yeah, I know.

I'm going to put the videos that we are sweating.

We should have gotten a drink before the other side.

I'll see you guys soon.

Thank you so much, Nicole.

You're amazing.