Dillon Elizabeth talks about abuse, going to jail and surving stronger!!

Hi guys, happy Tuesday.

This is a cat on the loose happy hour from Semila, my favorite little happy hour place in South Beach.

And I'm thanking them for being kind enough and letting us do it here with a super special guest, two special guests, because I'm here with Dylan and her adorable, cutest dog in the world.

Carlito Carlito.

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And I hope my dogs don't hear me saying, but he is the cutest freaking dog in the world.

Thank you for doing this, Dylan.

Of course.

Thank you for having me.

So you know, we were talking when we met a few days ago.

And just so my audience knows, you and I met on the set of a TV show that we were filming together.

Yeah, it's a fabulous light of actresses.

Yeah, and I remember when I met you, I loved your energy and your smile.

And and I thought you were just amazing and then when I saw you coincidentally here at Semila and I realized how open you are about talking about your life and your stories I was like I think you're gonna be game to doing my podcast which is super organic and non-edited.

Yes, thank you.

So yeah, thank you so much.

Most of the time and you listen to a few episodes the episodes are light and silly and nothing serious but I think as women and women that have been abused it's super important to talk about it because I know there are a lot of girls out there that have been through what we have been through and they maybe are embarrassed to talk about what happened to them or they don't know who to go to and I think you're super brave for telling your story and then I'll tell mine so let's do this of course

so like I feel like for abuse right there's different kinds of abuse there's also like neglect and abuse doesn't just have to be physical yeah although I think sometimes if like emotional spiritual, psychological abuse is neglected, it can eventually become physical.

I believe it eventually manifest itself physically.

So that's sort of the story that happened here.

And then let's start from the beginning.

So the story is you were dating some guy

and how long were you together?

In totality, like one year.

Only one year.

And so let's jump right into this specific episode.

How long were you with him when this happened?

Like 10 or 11 months.

We were together, yeah.

And it was the first time he was like physically aggressive towards you?

No.

There was...

He was like an MMA fighter, right?

Oh, my.

So it definitely wasn't a fair fight.

He has like six inches on me in height.

So let's do the background.

Okay, you met this guy.

Yeah, give us a little background.

Okay, so I moved to Miami.

I didn't have a job or any prospects of a job.

I quit my job in Tampa.

I was over Tampa.

It's like so boring there.

It is.

So, you know, we did whatever.

I'm going to quit my job and move somewhere where it costs, you know, way more, the cost of living.

And I believe I needed

a family person to be a guarantor on my rent.

And they're like, I'll only be a guarantor if you get a job in Miami.

So I'm scrambling, what do I do?

What do I do?

One of my sorority sisters from college was always putting on social media, like we're hiring, whatever.

So I decided to work for this recruiting company in downtown and was living in Coral Gables, which if you know anything about traffic in Miami, is it's a nightmare.

Yeah.

So

basically, I was doing that and, you know, one day I was, you know, going, basically going to lunch interviews, job interviews at lunch, and it was, you know, on the phone all day, but you had to dress business professional, and I'm in heels, and you know, taking off my heels to run on Northeast First Street downtown to get in there by 7.50 or whatever.

God-awful time, they wanted us to start.

So, one day I decided, you know what, this is it for me.

I'm done.

I can't do it.

I think I actually left, and I went that day to like a lunch interview, and the interview went really well.

I told them, hey, I'm not feeling well, whatever.

So, I embellished, I lied a little bit, and I realized afterwards that I left my resumes on the printer.

So I quit my job, didn't have a new job yet, did what any rational person would do.

I went home, grabbed the dog, put on some like soccer slides instead of my heels, and

grabbed the dog and went to Marshall's, went to go shopping.

I'm so cute.

Quit my job, I'm fucked, and I go shopping.

Okay, okay, yeah, right?

So I don't do that.

Right?

So these little kids came up, you know, it's Miami, I'm Oblo, you know, I'm trying to learn.

And these little kids come up and and it's like a whole language barrier and they're asking me about Carlito and you know Eltean TNA Quattro Años you know I'm trying to learn whatever all nice and you know it's a bit of a used feeling they come they ask a million questions they fed the dog then they leave right so I'm like okay fine whatever

and this really there was this really handsome well-dressed guy that I saw near the fitting rooms okay so you met him in Marshall yes and he was yeah so he was gonna go he was like not gonna hit on me well probably let's go this way he was gonna not hit on me and I was like and we were had a nice conversation like it was flowing, you know, and he was like, I saw him going to the penning rooms and I saw my dreams being crashed.

I'm like, oh, are you trying on shirts for work?

And he's like, yes, actually, I am.

I'm like, oh, that's so crazy.

I quit my job today.

Like, what a small world.

And were you living with him?

No, I was living in Coral Gables with a roommate

that went to the University of Miami, which most of Coral Gables, it's like, you know, people from New Jersey that go to University of Miami.

Super boring, Carl Gables, sorry.

A sea of yellow.

So let's jump the story a little bit.

So you're dating this guy.

He's an MMA fighter.

They're super strong, da-da-da.

And you said, even from the beginning of the relationship, he was kind of aggressive towards you

or not?

Not aggressive, no, he was a perfect gentleman, actually.

I would even say charming narcissist, maybe.

Yeah.

That's my therapist that I came up with.

Okay.

But basically, you know, he was an artist.

He was drawing my picture.

We met like October 3rd or whatever.

And my birthday is the 23rd.

And for my birthday, he made dinner plans with us to go out to this place, this nice place in Brickley I'd never heard of.

And

he drew my Facebook profile picture.

He like drew a pencil sketch.

So she was everything good in the beginning.

Yes.

So how did this happen that it got to the point that you guys had a physical fight?

So he was like extremely jealous.

You know, there was time when I was like trying to find a job.

And then I have all of these friends in Miami that can get me a job at the time.

Meanwhile, like I ended up finding one on LinkedIn or whatever, indeed something, right?

And

he was like a really good, he was like like really supportive of me through that because part of the way I value myself is like having a job like that's you know it's how I which is sad but I think that's how it raised a little bit and so he was supportive through that you know and I remember

this one time I went to a job interview right we've been dating maybe a month and we switched phones because we had like that trust right and his phone my phone was broken or his phone his phone was smashed and he was gonna like look at houses nearby right and i remember i joked about that in my job job interview.

I'm like, listen, babe, it's only the first interview, you know.

We don't need to find a house here yet.

And I looked and I remember this was my first interview.

I was sitting in there and on his smashed phone, all these Facebook calls start coming from this girl and all these messages.

And I can see through his cracked phone, like, who is this girl you're talking to?

And it's like Facebook, like, who calls someone on Facebook, right?

Like, no, you.

Right.

It's, yeah, it's a different mental level when you call somebody on Facebook.

So I'm like, okay, who is this girl?

You know what what I'm thinking?

And I'm like looking at her, right?

And my heart like sunk, right?

And I went to the bathroom.

Did you know who she was?

No.

I had no idea who she was.

I went to the bathroom and I'm wearing my black dress, my black blazer, right?

And I look in the mirror feeling so sad and I wasn't wearing a bra.

I had one like that was in the car, whatever I was supposed to put it on.

I look, I'm not wearing a bra, right?

So I have this new guy that I really like, that I really, you know, am falling for, and this girl's messages on his phone.

And I'm not wearing a bra to this job job interview that I'm probably underqualified for anyway so I'm like okay whatever happens I'm gonna write a book about it

long story short it was like his ex-girlfriend and they still had some like loose ends okay and she kind of became like staple in the relationship like they had this weird poly

thing and so like they would meet girls on tinder or something hook up with them whatever

and like she wasn't like fully I don't think she was like fully cool with it and I think this is part of the problem I think like

she wasn't cool with it.

She did whatever it took, in her opinion, to like stay with him.

Like, oh, yeah, if he wants other girls, like, yeah, I'd rather rather you do it in the house.

Did he tell you that when he started dating you?

No, no, he never expressed any like and then you accepted it.

No, I didn't.

I'm like, fuck no.

Who is this girl that's calling you?

First of all, she's not even hot, right?

You know, like, if she was super hot, I would be a different story.

Well, if you're gonna cheat, you better cheat somebody really hotter than me.

Exactly.

And then, like, how am I supposed to be mad at him for cheating?

Because he was like cheating with me.

You know what I mean?

So,

long story short, he kind of kept it under wraps.

You know, it's his ex, she's crazy, blah, blah, blah.

You know,

there's three sides to every story.

Yes, there is.

But, okay, so you're dating this guy, and you really like him.

And let's go to this one episode that you told me because that's the most important story, I think.

You guys were fighting

about somebody else or something, whatever it was.

We were like breaking up, getting back together.

Okay.

He was an adulterer.

He was a liar.

He worked as a leasing person for the university here.

So it's a constant influx of young women, you know.

And like the moms would want to take him to dinner or whatever.

And he's just kind of feeding off of it.

Or we'd be out and people, like, girls, like, or we'd be at dinner, and the waitress would kind of like hit on him, you know what I mean?

So that was just kind of always like the thing, and I just learned to be cool with it yeah yeah oh that's awful and then you one day you got tired of it and you guys were fighting

yeah one day he like told me to come over because it's weird when you're in a relationship like that because like how do you properly grieve when you're in a relationship that's not yeah like you know it's not we're not together we're not not together yeah but like if my mom asks I don't talk to him no I know I think we've all been there it's awful awful so he he comes over and you guys are trying to figure this out yeah so we were living together at at the time.

My roommate was like crazy and we like got like she like physically fought with me was weird because like whatever.

So I moved in with him.

I'm like listen, this isn't a good idea.

Whatever.

He's like, yes, it is.

It's better than whatever you have.

I'm like, okay, fine.

So

I had recently moved to the beach.

I recently found my own place and moved here to the beach.

And I was

it was like around Halloween, which is my favorite holiday, right?

Like

the week after my birthday.

And,

you know, we wanted to do this thing, that thing, or the other.

You know, he's like a slut.

Halloween's like the slut holiday, you know what I mean?

I'm like a Scorpio, it's my holiday first.

There's no overlap there, by the way.

I freaking love Halloween.

It's a great excuse to dress like a slut.

Right, exactly.

It's amazing.

And so, I think we were gonna do something.

We talked about what we were gonna do.

You know, he's very

hostile, very, you know, has some issues with himself for sure.

And I drove there one night because he uh um didn't drive he got like a second felony dui like oh deal

yeah oopsie okay so you got to this place and you guys are arguing this place we're arguing a lot was like said right

um

mostly just like physical violence right like i have like a very silver tongue you know and he didn't like some of the things I said and he's like twice my size so he like I think I have brain damage from this actually he like put his hands around my neck threw me up against the wall oh my god was on top of me at one point did that thing where like that you only see in the movies where somebody's like on top of you and like jumps into you with an elbow I can only imagine how scary must have been considering he was a fighter he must have been super strong yeah super strong apparently like your body's a weapon when you're yeah fighter and he did it from a young age he was like not doing it anymore but so he jumped on you and he's holding your throat with his hand or and you're obviously trying to defend yourself.

Yeah, and it was not the first time it happened.

You know, one time his mom was over and we were fighting and she came in the bedroom and he was like on top of me beating me up.

And I just like

kind of repressed that memory because I was just dumbed out and then she would walk in and do anything but like yell at her kid.

You know what I mean?

So, you know, it's something I said or something like that, or I think his dad had just died and whatever.

So

I think

like

this time wasn't necessarily worse physically than the other times.

Oh my.

But it was like prolonged.

You know what I mean?

And I would come into work with like bruises on me and people would ask questions and I'd say I was fighting or boxing or whatever.

You know what I mean?

And like because

it's a really lost feeling because it's like, okay, yes, we're fighting.

Yes, I'm not happy.

I would like to change things.

But at the end of the day, like that's still the person I love or at least loved.

You think they're never going to do it again.

Exactly.

You think, oh, they love me and they're never gonna hurt me again.

Exactly.

And then also, you think, like, this is gonna ostracize me.

Like, if I tell everyone, my family friends, like, hey, he hit me, they're all gonna be like, okay, well, then, fuck that guy.

I'm not talking to him anymore.

So, but this night that, like, he's choking you, he's all over you, and he bit your face.

Oh, yeah, he bit my face.

He bit me in the face.

Because I saw the picture, you showed it to me.

You literally had a bite mark on your face.

And you're like screaming or something, trying to get help.

Yeah, yeah, I was screaming.

It's like a, it was in his complex, right, which is like a lot younger.

You know, there's holes in the walls there from the victims.

Yeah,

yeah.

So who called the police?

So this is actually what's crazy.

So that night we were supposed to go out.

We didn't go out, ended up not doing anything.

So you didn't leave?

I didn't go.

Despite the fact that I was a little bit of a family.

This is my biggest mistake.

Yeah, yeah.

This is my amartilla.

This is my tragic flaw, basically.

Well, no, listen, a lot of abuse victims, and I was one of them.

We stay for a very long time until you gather the courage to leave.

So, you know.

Yeah, and it's like, it's like, I fancy myself a rational thinker, you know, especially when I'm in the middle of the day.

We're intelligent women.

We're intelligent, brilliant, gorgeous women.

Right?

And so now it's like, what do I do?

Like,

drive in the middle of the night, like with my like ratty hair, my like dress that I was wearing, he like ripped off of me.

That was like a new dress.

I got all dolled up, it was Halloween, you know, so it was like extra insults and injury.

So it's like, okay, what do I drive in the middle of the night all the the way back 40 minutes to the beach with my like hair already, like bruises on my body,

like

my clothes all tattered, and just to go to sleep in my own bed?

Or am I gonna stay here with the guilty schmuck?

That's hopefully gonna rub some article on me the next day, you know?

Oh my god.

So you stay there.

So I stayed there.

And so what happened?

Who called the police?

So the next morning there was more arguing.

Oh my god.

I

am not as strong, but one of my

core competencies is the grenades, you know, through launching some, I launched some projectile object at him or something.

He eventually left.

He called his mom.

His mom called me.

She wanted to talk, blah, blah, blah.

I wasn't having it.

I'm very stubborn at times.

And, you know, he had been arrested.

I didn't know about for drugs in high school.

And, you know, for the two DYs and whatever.

So he called his mom, whatever.

and

basically he called his mom she's like trying to call me and I'm like listen I'm calling the police right I was the girl that cried wolf I'm like I'm calling the police there's bruises all over my body my hair is ripped my dress is ripped like this is complete bullshit you know what I mean

and so

I didn't call the police.

I gathered myself.

I considered it.

I called my mom, you know, whatever.

I didn't.

I instead went to, what was that place called?

Not Jamba Juice, one of those juice places, Burvita, in the Whole Foods.

I got a juice, told the guy at the juice counter what happened, and he's like, wow, I can't believe it.

Like, not only is he like a guilty schmuck, but then he calls his mom to like bail him out of it all.

Oh, my.

You know what I mean?

That was the worst part.

This guy's a douche all around.

And she's like crying to be like, please.

But I want to get to the point.

Okay, so somebody called the police.

So he walked down to the police station with his neighbor.

Who I imagine he was boning.

This young woman.

Oh, man.

Walked down to the police station with her.

And got my juice.

I got the dog, packed up my things in my car.

And just as I was pulling away, I saw two cop cars coming in hot, right?

And I thought, hmm, we were just screaming at each other not that long ago.

Like, you know?

Mm-hmm.

But then I was like, nah, whatever, right?

And as I'm like pulling away, I'm out like three quarters out of the spot.

I see him standing behind the police officer, behind their cars with his neighbor, female neighbor.

Like pointing to me, pointing me up to them.

Oh my god, what a coward.

What a freaking coward so he went to the police station to say that you were abus hurting him physically hurting him yes so the police pulls you over like don't don't let you leave right

so like one thing that he did is he like he smashed my phone he would always be smashing my phone right and you know the relationship was over i had like a new doctor boyfriend that was like buying me new phones on the other end you know what i mean it wasn't a big deal it was a inconvenience more than anything but like this there was this one such shiny smashed my phone in the toilet right and I'm like stranded in coral gables you know I might as well be in like Tim Buck too

like no no what nothing to do I think he hid my keys or something so I was actually falsely in prison and um

like I was trying to get my phone out of his hand or I was trying to get his phone out of his hands because I was naked because he ripped my dress he's filming me right And I

opened this like drawer that had like the knives, the spatulas, everything in it.

And I don't know why, but for some reason I grabbed the stack of like wooden chicken skewers to try try and like get that extra six inches of height to get the phone out of his hands but I couldn't

and I was like very irate in that video I'm mad he's beaten me I'm bleeding he's filming me you know it was too but this is the crazy part I think is this is the part that really drives me out of my mind that I think everybody will agree when the cops arrive they see because you've you you had the bite mark on your face and you look yeah you look like you've been yeah you look like shit obviously you look like somebody beat you up but they take you they took you to jail and what did the police say to you that they didn't take him and they took you honestly i really pressed on them to get an answer to that because

and the more you talk the more they they kept you they threw you in the car right yeah yeah there's a like a good cop fat cop you know that's how it goes they're both women um

they detained me in the back of the car asked like a bunch of questions that aren't relevant you know as they tend to do yeah

and then like i see his whole fucking family showed up.

His whole family that was in Miami.

I have no family here.

And his uncle's coming, his aunt, his cousins.

That he hurts you.

Yes, of course.

And the cops ignored him.

And I'm trying to shout.

They're ignoring me.

They're talking to him.

He's with his uncle already, writing, filling out a witness statement on my car.

I'm screaming at him, like, babe, it's not too late.

You can fix this.

Because I know how this goes.

You know what I mean?

No, honestly, I didn't know how this went.

I know it happened to me, a variation of the story, which I've told you.

But I think I'm shocked that when cops see a woman in that situation, instead of helping you, seeing what you need,

obviously you needed emotional help, not only physical help.

I mean, they're listening to this guy and making you sit on the back seat of the car.

That's the part that is like beyond me.

And the more you try to talk to the cops, they're just like, shut up, right?

Yeah, I stopped being a human, you know?

It's nothing.

I'm like an animal cage in the back.

And then I had my...

And did they explain to you why they didn't arrest him for beating you up?

No, they I don't remember recall being read my Miranda rights until I was in the holding cell, right?

And did they tell you why they were taking you to jail?

At any point in time, it took them three hours three to four hours to come up with a police report because I guess they call the defense attorney and see what charges they can bring up on me.

So I think it took them three hours to come up with charges,

which was aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.

So they tried to say the chicken skewers were a deadly weapon.

That I was trying to stab him with a chicken skewer.

Oh my god.

And the bite mark on your face and the bruises and everything was not irrelevant.

While I was in the holding cells, there was some older cop,

you know, some Barney Fife of a cop taking pictures of me.

I'm like, have you documented, because I see them with the digital camera, like documenting his injuries, right?

I see him lift up his shirt.

There's bite marks on his back.

I don't know how you get upright bite marks on somebody's back, like upside down, unless, you know.

You're having sex.

Yeah.

Exactly, I wish.

And, you you know and those are all defensive wounds you know they're consistent with my story that he tried to strangle me the main like wound that he had was a bite mark on his chest which is a defensive wound you know I tore through all three layers of flesh I think I probably have like brain damage from that I just remember like I can see it almost like from a different point of view that's not me that's not him from like a different consciousness like him with his like elbows locked with my like head against the wall.

My god.

Dylan, and when they take you to, I mean, I've asked you that question question and when we were not recording but I cannot even imagine how scary it must be to be sitting in a jail cell all alone hurt

and like you said you had no family here and everything.

What were you thinking?

Were you thinking like oh my god I gotta get rid of this guy.

I should have left what were you thinking?

I was thinking, so I, it was particularly interesting for me.

I had to like use my least favorite friend to watch the dog because he's like the kind of thing that slips through police custody.

I love the dog.

Yeah and my ex's uncle didn't want to watch him which normally would be like cool.

They loved each other you know but

I think that like

I was watching them go through my entire cogo purse here.

Oh my every item by item right?

Like the two cops that arrested me.

Like on top of on top of everything I'm watching them go through all of my worldly votes.

It's humiliating.

Yeah.

And I remember I saw my grandpa's like cross necklace, right?

And he had died maybe like six months or a year before this.

And I remember thinking like, where are you now, God?

Like, where are you now, grandpa?

You know what I mean?

I remember thinking, like, who's watching over me now?

I remember feeling like so godless and so like helpless, you know?

Yeah.

And

I was in there for like two or three hours.

And that's kind of when you still have the hope that like, I'm going to get out of here.

I'm going to get out of this cell.

Yeah.

Which like if it's domestic violence, they have to hold you for 24 hours at minimum, right?

And so he was like, oh, we're not dating.

And I was like, no, we're not dating, but we dated in the past.

And I guess in me stating that, they then made it domestic violence.

I had to be there overnight.

Oh, my God.

So nobody's telling me anything.

I still don't know why I've been arrested.

Yeah, no, and to me, the crazy part is that they didn't arrest him.

They see a woman beat up.

And to me,

and they see his size.

They see your size.

You're tiny, you're very thin.

And I think it's outrageous.

I mean, I don't even have a word for it.

It's disgusting.

And he went there with a neighbor, so I wonder if she's like a witness, maybe, or something like that.

Well, but she wasn't.

But like you said, it was probably some girl he was banging, and she just convinced him to do this against you.

But nothing justifies the police conduct in this case, I think.

Yeah, because I said that I was going to call the police, and his mom was like, go, you need to go now.

Because it's like an unspoken thing kind of here in America.

They're like, whoever calls the police first wins.

That's who gets to speak to the police.

That's who gets to say.

That's kind of how it works.

And like unless and until you're but it's not right.

So me as soon as I'm cuffed and I'm in the back of a car I'm yelling right so that shows me as like crazy or whatever which corroborates his story.

So it makes it like even worse for yeah.

You know so there's once you're cuffed

note guys once you're cuffed you're being detained.

You're not necessarily under arrest.

But of course like a lot of people, most people freak out.

You're like, I can't believe this is happening.

So me let me grow.

Yeah, exactly.

He's the one that should be in the cops.

And maybe if I had acted differently, if I hadn't been yelling at him, and if I kept my mouth shut and I sat in the back of the car, then they would have started asking him questions.

Who the hell would be cool and collected in a situation like that after going through the night that you went through?

True, and whatever, whatever they, whatever he told them was enough for them to come immediately with him.

And then once you left jail,

did you think that's it?

Was that the turning point for you to get rid of this a-hole?

Yes, definitely.

Thank God.

Well, it wasn't even about going there.

I feel like I could have gotten over that.

It was about the cost, the social cost, the financial cost.

I had to spend a few thousand dollars on an attorney.

Yeah.

Like, basically, this whole part of my life was just like cut off, right?

And it's like dead now.

Actually, my car was like parked illegally in his building, and I remember that was something I was worried about.

Like,

am I going to get to the wall, you know?

But

yeah.

but then you never saw this asshole again i never saw him again thank god he talked to my friends he sent them pictures you know my my friends in miami beach that he knew he would tell them like

send them pictures and he never apologized to you nothing nothing he never reached out never apologized

um never what a coward yeah never followed through at all i had like some this is an interesting little loose end i had his social security card um and i think it's a passport and like some of his other like was Is he American?

No, he's born in Cuba and raised in Mexico

and then went to high school in America.

He's like a different kind of monster.

So what'd you do with the Social Security and the passport?

Well, so I

was like trying to do the right thing because I was really paranoid during that time because you can't talk to them for the first six weeks or whatever.

So I'm like, okay, he's going to like use this to screw me over worse, which I didn't realize at the time it can't get worse, right?

So I brought all of his things to my attorney's office.

Great idea.

So, and he was there for like two years and he recently brought it up and there was like this little pair of matching hoodies that we bought, like these unicorn hoodies to go to one of those grave things.

And I had mine and he had his at his place probably, so I packed.

I made sure to pack mine, you know.

Oh my god, I think we're laughing, but obviously it's a super serious story.

And it's a heartbreaking story because it does happen to women, to girls in this country all the freaking time.

And I think police is insane for arresting a girl that has just been beat up.

And I am not sure if there is anything that can be done about it.

But I like putting the story out there because if more girls know that you're not alone, you know, this can happen to you,

just keep calm.

But I think the ultimate message is if a guy hurts you once, 1 million percent sure they're gonna do it again.

Right.

And we're gonna take a super quick break

and a sip of wine.

And we'll be right back.

And this episode obviously goes in honor of the girl that was found dead, Gabi,

what's her last name?

I forgot, I'm gonna...

Her boyfriend just killed her in the woods.

Yeah.

And just before we started the podcast, I saw that they confirmed it's her body.

And it goes to show you could have ended up dead because violence only escalates so as much as you went to jail and everything and it's horrible you've been through thank god this coward disgusting asshole didn't kill you don't tell me his name because if you tell me his name i see you on the street i will kill him

yeah and that's so good and also i i have a like little bit of advice is like be supportive of your friends yeah don't just say leave him and like think that you're done there like it's a lot

all the time it's more complicated than that oh Oh, my God.

And if you feel like you're gonna complain to your friends, and then you're just venting to them, and they're like, leave him, and then you complain again, and they're like, Oh, well, I told you to leave him.

It's like, but I have this whole life

so much.

Yeah, well, I'm gonna take a super quick minute and a half break, and I'll be right back with Dylan and Carlito.

This is a heavy-duty cat on the loose, but it's a good one.

You guys should see the smile on this girl's face, she's amazing.

We're back.

We had a sip of wine.

This is a heavy subject.

I mean, now we're laughing about it and everything, but

I have to say I'm insanely proud of you for, as a woman, for saying it with, you know, so much candor and being so honest about it, because I know it's tough, and it's very hard to find somebody who has the bulge to tell the story.

So I'm like a huge fan.

I already adored you before, now even more.

So girls, if your boyfriend is being rude to you, verbally abusive, physically, get the hell out.

Don't wait until you get in trouble.

Don't think the police is going to be your best friend.

Get the hell out.

No man in the world is worth throwing you in jail, right?

Now, let's change the subject and make this a little lighter.

So, you are single again.

You've been in Miami for what, a few years, right?

Since 2017.

Did you go back into the dating scene after that?

What do you think about the

dating scene?

Oh my god what a nightmare.

Well two nights after this was Halloween on Lincoln Road right?

So I could

see the whole circus.

It is a circus.

We're right and they have those bliss parties and Miami Beach and sex parties and I was on Halloween on Lincoln Road not last year because of COVID right they didn't have them the year before yeah it was chaos right yes amazing and I dressed as like I didn't have an outfit whatever you know I was busy so I just like had some bunny ears or something and like a slutty outfit I'm like okay I'm a bunny And apparently that was like the year that Hugh Hefner died.

So there was like 15 Hugh Hefners, right?

I got like three dates and one night.

Okay, so you jumped back into the dating scene on Halloween.

Yeah, I did.

I'm not sure that's the best place to meet people, but okay, Halloween's coming up.

Yeah, I was nice and thin.

But why do you think you were nice and thin?

Yeah, from like, well, I was there, I didn't eat anything.

For the record, she's super scrawny.

We were just saying that during our break, she could be a super mod if she wanted, because she's insanely tall.

I'm super short.

How tall are you?

I'm 5'11.

Yeah, I'm 5'5.

And she's like skinny, skinny, blonde, gorgeous.

So shut up.

I hate you.

So, but you met these guys, but you said that the dating scene in Miami is tough.

To me, it's like, that's why I started the podcast, because it's a chaotic disaster.

It's tough.

It's full of like, you know, old, older right?

Some, very few of them, wealthy, most of them pretending to be.

Yes.

And then there's all these young guys, and they're all angry because they can't get a date because all the girls want the older, wealthy guys, you know what I mean?

So that's really what you have to

merge with.

And then like the younger guys, even no matter how hot or tall or whatever they got going on, they always have a little bit of insecurity.

Like, oh, why is she going on a date with me?

You know what I mean?

When she could be on a date with the Prince of Persia right now.

Like, what's wrong with her?

you know so you have that all happening and I feel like like you know you're dating like a real geriatric like a really young person

when they ask about your hobbies

what do you like to do in your downtime so young lady that's a neat top you're wearing

what are some of your hobbies

I know and then you realize like shit I'm in my 20s like my hobbies are like dating and like going on the internet and messing with like tools selling selling it used shoes.

Selling my used shoes.

But what age group do you seek?

Honestly, my best relationship was like 39.

That's a good age group for you.

Yeah.

So I feel like 20 years older than me or greater.

So like...

I actually think I have a friend that I can introduce you to.

Oh, really?

Yes, I just thought.

Maybe I'm going to play Matchmaker.

He's my secret cute guest.

I've interviewed him a few times.

You can listen to the episodes.

And he's insanely handsome.

He's originally, I can't say here, he's not from the United States, but he moved here.

And he's super successful and super hot.

So when I interview him, he talks a lot of bullshit.

So he said, and he's super private.

So he said, I don't want you to tell your listeners who I am.

And all my girlfriends, all my listeners, like, who is this guy?

But he's super hot.

And I think he's kind of on your age group.

And the cool thing about him, he has money.

He's very successful, but he's extremely on the down low, like super down to earth.

like if he walks in here right now You think like he's a beach bum, you know

And I love that he's not like like you said these old farts around Miami like showing off their cars and their wealth which I kind of think is cheesy.

You know

Yeah, like you said a lot of guys in Miami just to get a date or better get sex They are flaunting their leased BMW and all this bullshit and I think it's ridiculous.

It is and then it's like at some point you become a target like us women become a target because it's like I have a job.

Like I have my shit together.

Like

now I'm gonna attract one of these like young loser guys that like want like sugar mama.

And that's like a thing.

I mean I think it's like an ego step for them.

But I think that like most guys are okay with that or something I've noticed with like my generation younger than me.

Like

they these guys, they want like a rich girl.

Like I was reading Adriana Lima's Instagram comments on one of her photos and there's like this guy in Pakistan and he's like I want to marry a rich girl.

And he's commenting on all of of her photos.

And I think that that's actually something that happens.

Guys want a girl with a successful family so that it's not as much pressure for them to be successful.

Yeah, but that's horrible.

And I think, just like, I think it's a huge problem in Miami.

A lot of girls want to go out to these guys just because they have money, like you said.

You know, many times they just want them to take them to a fancy restaurant to show off.

I don't think they're in it for the right intentions and I think that's a huge problem Miami and for the guys it's many times they just want to have quick sex it's just the dating scene here I don't know if it has happened to you but it has happened to me a million times when they meet me when they meet most girls they're like oh I want to date I want a relationship da da da and then actually they really just want to have sex they want to bang you oh yeah yeah yeah always oh yeah I want to marry you like that was all the first time I heard it 10 years ago and they want to sell me on the stream and that's something i've realized is like

i don't know i haven't met the right person right but i don't really want to get married you're too young yeah and honestly as soon as guys start bringing it up i start like thinking long-term if i'm dating them they're like oh so marriage you know yeah and i don't think i don't know i feel like people like especially my generation they think it's like an end-all be all right and then it's also something that's off the table like oh i'm not gonna be a spinster you know like age 27 like jane austen novel like you're like an old spinster yes and i don't i think there's something i think being unhappy is being worse like worse than being a spinster oh my god I couldn't agree with you more and I mean I don't know but I don't think you should rush at your age or any age for that matter even my age I've been married before blah blah blah but I think it's a huge problem and a lot of guys complain about that that a lot of women are desperate to be in a relationship and they rush it and it's always a bad idea I think Definitely, yeah, and like I think a lot of guys are like desperate to have sex and they try and rush that and then they try and like center boundaries and like oh just a little bit of this just and then all of a sudden they're like a cheap car salesman right like a used car salesman like oh just a that'll bluff right out

just take off your panties

i know they can't even bluff well they'll like take you to dinner and okay now do you want to go back to my place like yeah no not just because you bought me dinner you're not gonna have me for this

exactly like i can buy myself dinner too like you're being seen out with me like that is that is valuable you know what I mean yes and like uh

I don't know I feel like it's a bunch of schmucks or like they have the game figured out or they don't have it figured out at all I know so what do you do like obviously you want to date we we live in Miami I kind of gave up dating in Miami back in April it's the whole long story I don't know if I told you of my man diet I was dating a guy that I really liked really liked

and after many dates I did have sex with him on the second date and a lot of my my all my girlfriends think it's a horrible idea horrible thing to do they think you should wait but anyway I went with my instinct and we were having this phenomenal date on his bolt

what am I gonna do like no I'm gonna go home no I we had fabulous sex but anyways we had a bunch of dates and slowly he disappeared like slowly from tiger and I was really hurt I was really because I thought we really liked each other but anyway so after that I decided to do this man diet I'm like I'm done with these people in Miami now how about you?

Do you just keep dating?

Where do you meet people with this whole COVID chaos?

Or do you meet people in bars?

Are you socializing?

I use the apps.

I'm a big fan of the app.

Oh, yeah.

You are a fan of the apps?

I am a fan of the apps.

Oh, my God.

I hate the apps.

But I hate the apps too.

I get it.

There's so much volume on the apps.

Which one is your favorite?

Always Tinder.

Tinder's always been a favorite, yeah.

Dylan, I gotta tell you, you are the first woman ever that said Tinder is your favorite.

They all say bumble, bumble, bumble, bumble.

Yeah, everybody likes hinge, bumble.

I'm not in for all this new age shit.

Listen, if I'm like a really old guy, right, and I have familial multi-generational money, and I'm like, what am I going to do in Miami?

The first thing I'm going to do is download Tinder.

You know what I mean?

I'm just trying to be in the right place at the right time.

You're so cute.

So you like Tinder.

Is it working out for you?

Definitely not.

There's a bunch of shitbox on Tinder.

Most of them are probably GD on their wives.

Lie.

Oh my god.

You're too cute.

You love Tinder and it's definitely not.

Yeah, it's not the best.

I don't know what the best is.

I know there's like Fet Life if you want to find fetish people.

Which one?

It's called Fet Life.

Oh, maybe a little too much for me right now.

But there's something, do you know what a FinDom is?

No, what is that?

Teach me.

So I was looking about all the kinks, right?

Because they always come up with new ones, right?

You know, like every year.

I know,

I can't keep up.

There's like one Merriam-Webster new word and like 14 new kinks every year.

You have a lot of free time, Dave.

Yeah, exactly.

So I'm looking up the kinks one day.

And

so I was dating this guy at the time, and I don't really know like what's freaky about him, right?

And when I think about like dumping him, I think like, I'm not going to miss him making me breakfast, whatever, the ferragamos.

I think I'm really going to want, I'm going to miss, like, what does he do with other women?

Like, what is he, what's his freaky, like, kinks?

I never knew, you know what I mean?

So one day I'm looking at all the kinks.

I'm like trying to answer this questionnaire for him.

And I stumbled upon this one kink that I wanted to know more ever since.

It's called FinDom, which is a financial dominatrix.

There's also a Finn sub, right?

Financial dominatrix, right?

So, you just like pee on guys, or like, you know, it's not

like they give you money, or you tell them, oh, you're so pathetic and poor, and they give you money, whatever.

I can do that, yes, whatever, whatever they want, but how do I find one of those?

Exactly, right?

Trashing a guy and get paid for it.

I'm in it.

Sign me up, right?

Is there a specific app for that?

Wait, where is it?

You know, we should make an app for it for these fine fin dogs.

Because I don't know.

I think there's people that are into that.

I want to find those people.

Reach out.

I think this much I know, there are people into everything you can dream of.

Yes.

From the most simple to the craziest crap, there are all kinds of crazies on, right?

Okay, but you said Tinder's not working for you.

Tinder's not working, but it's all I got.

You know, I mean,

I met this guy at the post office once.

He actually was like a captain, so we had like a bunch of yacht charters.

We had that going for a while.

What's his name?

His name's Alexander.

No, you told me.

No, because I have a friend who's a yacht captain here in

Miami.

No, that's not the cause of the.

I thought it's like the perfect friend, right?

I get to go on yachts to the yacht.

There's no, you know, but then it's weird because like, let's say there's somebody cute on the yacht.

Yeah.

And then it's like, he invited me.

You know, it's weird.

You don't want to mix that.

It's very short-lived, yeah.

And you're not, um, you're not going to bar.

I mean, very few.

I'm not going to bars either.

I mean, for me, it's like literally, I go in heels and I have like a bird's eye view of everyone, especially here in Miami.

You know what I mean?

In heels, I'm 6'2 ⁇ .

So I go.

I love...

It takes me like 50.

Do you love super tall guys?

Super tall guys.

I love them.

Hit me up.

I'm putting a basketball team together.

6'5 and taller.

Yeah, I don't know how tall my friend is, but I know he's a lot taller than me, so I gotta check you out with heels and adon.

She's like a super model tall.

Thank you, yes.

And then there's like the short people that like, like my mom's 5'3 and my dad's 6'3, you know what I mean?

Uh-huh.

So me and my brother are both 5'11 ⁇ .

Oh, holy shit.

Which sucks for him, you know.

Why?

Because so girls get more genetics from their dad and boys get more from their mom.

Oh.

So to all you guys out there, all of you tall young strapping lads that like short women, just remember

you're ruining your sons.

I'm sure they love that you said that.

So you said Cinder is all that you have left.

You don't do any other.

Hinge, people have been telling me to get hinge.

I tried, somebody told me, download Hinge, and I downloaded it and it lasted like less than a week on my phone because it was so freaking boring.

And then I read somewhere that they match you based on your Facebook friends.

And I'm like, who the hell wants to be matched with Facebook friends or people related to your Facebook friends?

And I just thought it was so cheesy.

I don't know.

And then he kept telling me I had to pay.

Like every time you were gonna like someone, pay, pay, pay.

And I refuse to pay for dating apps.

Dude, I think I'm still paying for Tinder Plus.

You are.

Do you think

it's a difference if you pay?

Definitely not.

It just got me more swipes, or it used to let you find hoes in different area codes.

Because my friend, the secret guy that I'm telling you about, he thinks if you pay, it makes all the difference.

He tells me I only get trash because I refuse to pay.

And he thinks if you pay, they're going to match you with better people for you.

But I'm just not going to pay for a dating app.

I don't know.

Yeah, no way.

No way.

I can't believe they make a woman pay.

They used to have this glitch on Tinder, actually, where like nobody talks about this, but you know, like they used to have something called Tinder groups like four or five years, five or six years ago.

And like you could, you could like scroll through your Facebook friends list, right?

Which you connect to Tinder through Facebook which is that's always that's why I still have a Facebook

so like you you can go through your entire list of friends right and you can see who had a tinder because you could click add them to your like group because I guess you could like group meetup I don't know if it's group sex or group go I don't know what the plan was there it was very short-lived but you could add them and so this way I found like okay 500 of my 2,000 Facebook group friends I can add them but the other ones I have to invite which means that I can tell who has tinder from this oh my god I'm not sure that's a good idea.

It's super not a good idea.

They took it down.

So your dating life is exciting, but not that great.

It's not that great.

One thing I feel like I always do is I have like a young, hot boyfriend, right?

It's like there to, you know,

clean the pipes.

Like literally

all the pipes.

Casual.

Yeah, like a casual boyfriend, like probably always thinks that we're more than we are, but you know, they need to, right?

You know what I mean?

You know, do you want to know what we call this in Brazil?

What?

The friendly dick.

The friendly dick, I love that.

I don't have one.

I haven't had one in a few years, but it's always a good idea.

Yeah, right?

Or even like, but for me, like, my friendly dicks, kind of, they've always would think that they're my boyfriends, whatever I like.

Yeah, that's the problem.

Yeah.

They cannot, the friendly dick cannot fall in love.

Yeah.

Don't let them move in.

Yeah, exactly.

Because let's say you want to go out on a Friday night or something, or if you want to go out with your girlfriends, what are you going to do?

It's so true.

You know?

And like, um,

I feel like, uh,

sorry,

we're talking about like this is unscripted, we didn't plan it at all.

We're just like chit-chatting, chit-chatting about the world.

I think Miami is the worst place in all of the United States for dating, other than Las Vegas.

I really do.

I think it became like an extension of Las Vegas here.

Definitely.

If you want to just party, yeah, like I said, have quick sex, have fun.

Oh my god, you can find sex in five minutes in this town.

But if you actually want a boyfriend, a relationship, which is my case,

I honestly, it's a horrible place.

Because

there might be serious people out there, but I have not met any.

I think they just want to party around here.

Yeah, you're definitely right.

Or like...

Like for me, it's like there will be like a young guy that you want to have sex with and then there'll be like the older guy that's like a mentor type, you know what I mean?

And it's great, but then there's like me in the middle, you know what I mean?

I have somebody that I'm dating that's like stupid, right?

Yeah, like

my ex, the horrible one, right?

He's like an hourly like leasing manager.

I'm like a salaried college graduate, you know what I mean?

Like, no, that's awful.

And after that, did he ever, his family, did anybody ever try to reach out to you, apologize, nothing, nothing, nothing?

And you never saw him again.

Wow.

I know, right?

Talk about closure.

No, but thank god because the sad thing is a lot of women if even after going what you went through they still go back for more

so the great news yeah you went back you went back you went back but the minute you went to jail you were like that's it I'm done yeah thank goodness

and there's also like this like this other anger where it's like okay I've lived here like this whole entire my whole entire life right I've you know I went through my teenage years here I was a pre-teen here you know what I mean and like I went through so much shit, right?

And then he moved here like four years ago.

He's gotten arrested like six years ago, whatever.

He's gotten arrested like 10 times since then.

Oh, my God.

You know what I mean?

And then all of a sudden, it's like my own.

Like, I had a clean, I was clean before him.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, this is what I, yeah, that's a good point.

If you get tangled up with somebody who is always in trouble, they're gonna drag you down with them.

That's the horrible thing.

So, I think obviously we learn from experience.

I think everything in life is a learning

learning point for us and and it just makes you stronger but looking backward back what I would say to girls in your situation or anybody when you're gonna date somebody think about the lifestyle they have think about how they behave because if they are troublemaker like you said the guy was arrested for dui the guy was arrested for this the guy was arrested for that it's very likely it's gonna happen again and it will spill on you right exactly and just think about like you know, if there's like major crimes, right?

And you and your boyfriend, whatever, are suspects, what do they do?

The first thing is separate you.

And I kind of thought about that.

I'm like, I want a guy that's not going to be like, lie in the depot to save his own ass, you know, and say, oh, it was all her idea of that.

That is honestly, that's, he's such a disgusting coward, seriously.

To do that to a girl, to go to the cops, to see you getting arrested, all scared.

I mean, I have zero, zero respect for.

he's not, I'm not even gonna say a man, he's a slime ball.

Yeah, and it's true.

I mean, you know, the proof is in the pudding.

Right now, you know, a few years I was, you know, a pretty fairly successful salesperson, as successful as you can be at sales.

Now he's a promoter and I'm a business owner, so I went more further on my path.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Obviously, you're super intelligent, you're brilliant, you're not gonna let one horrible thing that happened to you ruin your life, and you deserve all the success in the world.

believe in karma do you definitely and I also but I feel like this kind of haunts me a little bit and it's like a blemish on me forever like okay like you think you're gonna mess with me like I'll show you baby girl like I'm gonna own you forever and now like if I give a guy my phone number that you can do a background check on someone's phone number nowadays so you can listen I know but this is what this is my opinion okay this is what I would tell you as a friend

Nobody's perfect.

I have a million things happen to me.

Like I always tell people up front, I've been divorced, divorced, my husband died, da-da-da-da.

If you're gonna like me, yeah, go for it.

Google me, do whatever the hell you want.

You're gonna like me and you're gonna listen to my story, you're gonna listen to me.

So I honestly, I'm telling you with all my heart, I don't think you should be ashamed of what happened because you didn't do anything wrong.

On the contrary, when you show me your picture and

the bite mark on your face and you're all disheveled, obviously you're freaking out, super scared.

And like you said, if the guy that is dating you wants to do a background check on you, I think you should be be proud of it.

Say, yeah, go for it.

And by the way, yes, I have been a victim of abuse.

I was arrested.

And if you like me and you want to hear the story, I'll be happy to tell you.

And I learned the hard way.

If somebody likes you, they will sit down and listen to your story before they judge you.

And if somebody judges you before they listen, you know what?

They were not the person for you.

It's so true.

That's how I feel.

I'm not embarrassed of anything I ever did in my life.

I never committed any crimes.

And I owe my story.

I own everything I've done, everything that happened to me and you need to do the same.

And I think any guy that will love you and respect you, they're going to say, like we're doing now, they say, oh my god, Dylan, what happened to you?

You know, they are going to want to listen from you.

So I don't think you should.

Of course, it's traumatizing.

I understand that part.

I cannot only imagine how you feel.

And like you said, it's a blemish on my record.

Yes, it's super annoying, but you're so young.

You know, a few years from now, it's not going to mean anything.

But don't let that scare you from,

you know, because I think you're going to meet the right people that are going to respect you and understand what happened.

Exactly.

Thank you.

Thank you, Kath.

And I came back to my apartment and I remember thinking, like,

he never would have done this for himself.

You know, I have a place to come back to that's only mine.

There's no roommates.

There's no bullshit.

And, like, not only would he have never been able, like, capable of doing this for himself, and not because of the excuses that he makes about being an immigrant or whatever.

I mean, like, actually.

Every loser makes excuses.

Every loser makes

and that was it was almost like he was jealous of me like he wanted me to be brought down oh you're

I'm sure

oh you're this

we are doing my podcast live from Samila Happy Hour and she was kind enough to ask if we want another glass of wine it's totally okay it's an organic podcast non-edited

Are we gonna have another glass of wine?

Yes, we should have another glass of wine.

I'm having resistance having red

My viewers know that my podcast is like life is happening

Thank you for being so sweet.

Oh my god, we have to do this again, right?

Definitely

fun.

So finalizing the subject of dating, you're just out there

Yeah, and basically I did like all of this despite him.

You know what I mean?

I got super proud of you together despite him.

You know what I mean?

And like I think

we should be more supportive about each other.

We should be more supportive about our friends.

Yes, I love that you said that.

That's a whole other episode that we gotta do about mean bitches.

I can't stand girls that don't support each other.

I did a whole episode about that a little while ago because my best friend and other close friends hurt me so much for so long, not being supportive.

I finally decided to call it out.

And I agree with you.

I think it's awful.

Like, we go through enough.

So, when you see a friend

going through this shit, just stand by her side hello right hello exactly it's not that hard

with women some girls yeah you know I you know the sad part is some women see like other girls as competition

and I always think like if we unite if we're each other's friends everybody's in a better place

And yeah, we should we should do a whole episode on jealousy because I remember I went to college and I didn't understand jealousy.

I didn't know about it.

I didn't really and my mom didn't either.

And she suffered.

I watched her suffer my whole entire childhood because all the other moms were mean to her, right?

And she never knew why.

And she took it to heart.

And she was like, Oh, it's my fault.

It's because I'm from Ohio, whatever.

It's because she was the hottest one, and the smartest, the most brilliant, the best smile.

And this is why everybody was so fucking mean to her.

And instead of saying, oh, wow, they must be jealous, she said, oh, wow, there must be something wrong with me.

Like, literally, all these women are all ganging up on me, all being bitches.

Yeah, that's why I use this term.

Remember that movie, The Mean Girls?

With Lindsay Lohan?

That was one girl that, and that, yeah, so that's why I say it's mean girls' behavior, but we're adults.

And I'm sure it happens to you the same thing that you're saying happened to your mom because you are gorgeous.

There is no denying that.

And you guys are going to see her Instagram.

But you are brilliant.

You are like super intelligent.

So you're not like just a dumb Barbie.

So you have the whole package.

And as sad as it is, so do I.

That's why we like each other.

But as sad as it is, some girls, instead of thinking, well, let's add forces, let's create together, let's make money together, let's support each other's business, they become this mean bitch and like they're jealous and they just have this rude, horrible behavior towards certain girls.

And every time we don't stick a hand out or an olive branch out to help somebody, we're perpetuating that, right?

Amen.

Because they're like, oh, well, nobody helped me, so why would I help people, right?

And then you create a whole other generation of people that don't want to tag you in the photo.

I know.

That is just like such a no-no.

I, I'm telling you, I am super loyal.

I'm loyal to death to my friends.

And I despise people that are no.

I think it's like the top thing that I don't like on people is like lack of loyalty.

And like you said, it's easy.

And that's another Miami thing.

I call it champagne friends.

You know, when you're having a great time, when everything is fine, you have these friends around drinking.

champagne.

But the question is when you're not drinking champagne, when you need someone, when you're like going through a horrible breakup, I mean, God forbid, when you're being abused by your boyfriend, when your husband dies, when something horrible happens to you, where are these people?

Exactly.

You know, that's when you need a friend.

Because to have a drink, yeah, in Miami, like I said, you go down to the apartment, you can get sex, you can get a drinking head, whatever the hell you want.

But the question is, like, when you're down and out.

Like you said, you don't want a girl to say, I told you so.

You should have downtown.

Yeah, why are you still dating him?

We talked about that.

Thanks a lot, bitch.

Oh, I'm so glad I got dressed up to hear I told you so.

I know, so more girl power.

I hope you come back and then we'll do a whole other episode about this behavior, this minger.

But I know for sure you're gonna meet a prince that will love and adore you.

I mean, you're gonna meet a line of prince.

Because you're absolutely adorable.

And you're so strong.

And I thank you so much for sharing your story.

Because as much as we're like making light of it and laughing, I know it's not easy

thank you love yeah maybe you can do an episode about how like we're us by kicking ass we're kind of breeding a whole generation of pussies because it's like oh let the woman do it like it's fun you know what I mean it's like their time you know what I mean and I think that's kind of like what happened like it's a generation of like going after the prince charming instead of him going to all of the land to find the princess with the glass slipper it's like oh

um you didn't text me back maybe I should double or triple text him.

Maybe I should call him.

Maybe I should pay text.

I know I can take these games.

It annoys the crap out of me.

I don't play these games.

I hate it.

They play games like without even knowing it.

Yeah.

So they say, oh, we're not playing games, but they.

They do.

I think they know it.

I don't know.

Dylan, I hope you come back for another one.

You went by so fast.

And can I tell them your Instagram?

Sure, of course.

It's Billy and Dylan, which I love.

And Carlito Cartel, who is here, so sweet.

I'm going to go pick up Bell upstairs so we can celebrate Carlito's birthday.

This was such a fun cat on the loose, and I know I'm gonna get dozens of messages about you.

So I hope I'm gonna get Dylan back really, really soon so we can talk some more because she's so cool.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you.

Cheers, you're fabulous.

Cheers.