CELEB BREAKUPS & LOVE ADVICE WITH LOVE COACH NICOLE MOORE

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CELEB LOVE COACH AND RELATIONSHIP EXPERT NICOLE MOORE IS ABCK ON THE SHOW FOR A REALLY FUN FAST PACED EPISODE WHERE WE DISH ABOUT CELEBS IN THE NEWS, BREAKUPS AND MORE!
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Speaker 4 two one two six eight two six six two zero for medicine and for greenwich two one two three seven four zero one five zero nicole moore beautiful fabulous love coach i'm so happy to have you back yeah i'm happy to be here it's been a minute right

Speaker 5 so much that i want to talk about i think there's nobody better than you to dish on all this crazy celebrity chaos out there it's a lot

Speaker 5 so let's rock and roll because there's so much i want to i want to cover let's do the celebrity fun stuff first.

Speaker 5 The first one that I want to mention, did you watch the J-Lo movie, Disney Now?

Speaker 6 I didn't, but you know, I saw all the clips on TikTok. I feel like I watched it from watching all the TikToks.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I went, I was invited to the premiere.

Speaker 5 And so I was like, okay, yeah, I got to watch because I went there and I was invited. And then she did the behind-the-scenes.

Speaker 5 You guys got to watch, by the way, if you didn't see it on Amazon, because she was very raw on the behind the scenes, which I really admire, like no makeup all the chaos all the story but what I the question I want to ask you is a lot of people are saying that it it gets to the point especially in her career she's already so rich she married Ben after all the 20 something years so people are saying like isn't it a little TMI at this point what is your opinion I don't know like the thing is that you know how they say if you really have a great relationship like you're not posting it everywhere like usually the people have a good relationship they're just having the relationship you know it's like, oh, happy birthday on Instagram.

Speaker 6 Not, oh my God, you're the love of my life and I can't live without you. So that's the interesting thing is like, why isn't she just living in the relationship?

Speaker 6 Why feel the need to promote the relationship? Like, I don't know, but it is a little bit weird.

Speaker 6 And also, it seemed like Ben really didn't want to do it, but he was doing it for her, which I think is nice in a way.

Speaker 6 But my question is, why doesn't she just live the relationship and enjoy it if it's so good?

Speaker 5 That's a great question, right? And you know, it's interesting because on this documentary, it's available on Amazon, by the way, guys.

Speaker 5 He participates on the documentary. So he said a phrase that I thought was very sweet.

Speaker 5 He was like, oh, when we go back together, one of the things that I told her was, I don't want you to do social media.

Speaker 5 And then I thought about it and I was like, wait a minute, I am marrying a boat captain, and I'm basically saying you need to keep the ship out of the water.

Speaker 5 And then I understood that it's not something I can ask her to do. That all the social media and the scrutiny comes with her job.
And I thought it was very sweet that he said that.

Speaker 5 But that being said, I kind of agree with you. It's like, yeah, it's part of her job, but it doesn't have to be all the time.

Speaker 5 Like, look at me, look at me, look at my husband, look at my husband, look at my husband.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, maybe, listen, she struggled so much in love. So, like, maybe she's just finally excited and she feels like this is it.
And she's a Leo, you know?

Speaker 6 So maybe she just wants to be out there. But I did, this is one thing I will say.

Speaker 6 From the clips on social media, I did see more of their closeness because all the paparazzi pictures, pictures, it seems like Ben hates Jen and he's unhappy.

Speaker 6 So that was one good thing I saw from the clips. Like, there were moments where it really seemed like they do actually have a good relationship, like a good marriage, right?

Speaker 5 And it's funny because Jane Fonda, which did a cameo in the movie, she says that, and it's also on this behind the scenes, she says that to Jaylo. Like, why are you putting it all out there?

Speaker 6 Why aren't you just leaving this wonderful love story in private if the scrutiny of the press is what destroyed their relationship the first time around yeah and her answer was we're just living our lives but in my eyes i think it's more than just living our lives because if you're just living your lives you can shut off the camera yeah yeah and it's like i don't know like for me just some things are precious right and so she had to know when i put this documentary out there there's i mean there was a there's been a lot of criticism i'm actually shocked by how much i just know from tick tock from how much criticism and it's like i wonder how she feels about that because it's like you're putting something out there you're saying this is my incredible love and people are just picking at it and like from an energetic perspective I would want to protect the relationship a little bit more from people's opinions.

Speaker 5 I totally, me too. I think I would be so like, oh my god, especially because she admits that she's so jealous.

Speaker 5 Like, don't flirt with my husband. Don't be near my husband.
I think at this point, like, I would feel like, you know what, I just really want to enjoy this part of my life by myself. But whatever.

Speaker 5 Do you think this is going to last?

Speaker 6 I think they're going to try and make it last. I mean, here's the thing, okay? So we have JLo, who's a love addict, right? And Ben Affleck, who's a recovering addict.
So really, it depends, I think.

Speaker 6 Like, if life stressors hit too hard, you never know what could happen. I think they're going to, I think she's going to hold on for dear life.

Speaker 5 Let's hope it lasts. We're hoping for a happy ending on this one.

Speaker 6 I mean, I want J-Lo to have great love.

Speaker 5 For sure, right?

Speaker 6 I mean, one thing is she always stays open.

Speaker 5 Like, that's what I like about jlo she always tries again she always believes in love you know it's better than being closed yeah no one million percent she's like me like i'm gonna turn i think you gotta get up and try and try and try and try i think there's even a song like that right you try and try and try never give up never give up now another one this is a sad one but i want to ask your opinion giselle binchon and tom brady ended up getting divorced I was heartbroken because I thought they were in it for the long run.

Speaker 5 She's Brazilian. Of course, I love her being Brazilian.
But, and then I heard some nasty gossip about her just the past few weeks in the media.

Speaker 5 A bunch of people saying because she's dating her, whatever, some jiu-jitsu guy, whatever. I don't know if it was her trainer.

Speaker 5 And people started saying, Oh, she was already dating him, she was cheating on Tom Brady. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
And finally, she gave an interview and she shut it down. She was like, That's a lie.

Speaker 5 And I cannot believe, just because a marriage breaks up, that women get treated like that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I believe her. I mean, I don't know her personally, but she just, she's, she's like all about the four agreements book by Domino Galruiz.
Like, that's all about integrity.

Speaker 6 Like, I don't think she cheated, you know, but obviously, I feel like she gave the ultimatum to Tom Brady, like, don't go back to football.

Speaker 6 And when he did that, he broke the relationship because he proved that she was not his priority. So, like, I'm kind of happy for her that she's left, even though it's sad that the marriage ended.

Speaker 5 But she, I mean, it's giselle she deserves to be a priority like hello and i think that i mean i don't want to say anything but i think a lot of these guys uh they they yeah they fall in love more with what they do like the career the sport than with the person that they're with and then even when they come home of course we don't know them we're just speculating but i think when they come home they get lazy like even in terms of like having sex or having intimacy they just yeah i'm glad you sell with that pod trainer like you know i know but i want to talk about that for a minute because you're a love coach and i see a lot of uh women complaining about that like why do you think it is like when so many relationships don't work out so many times the woman gets the blame yeah i hear that a lot and i get messages about that a lot like the the girl gets but oh she didn't do whatever or she was the cheater or she wasn't a good wife why do you think that is?

Speaker 6 Because I think society still thinks, like, relationships are for women. Women want the relationship.
And God forbid.

Speaker 6 It's just, I think women, society doesn't want women to want better for themselves.

Speaker 6 I did a video on YouTube that was talking about like how really total catch women should, should not settle, and they should have a guy that's everything they want. And there was comments from men.

Speaker 6 All the comments were from men telling me basically like, you shouldn't be saying this.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I was like, so what are we supposed to do? Settle? That's what they were trying to say.

Speaker 6 And I'm like, first of all, why are you watching the video for women? But like, and I was just like, wow, like, this is what women are dealing with.

Speaker 6 Like, they can't even want more because everybody tells them not to want more. And even the men out there in the dating market are like, don't tell women that they should want more.

Speaker 6 And I think that it's like society isn't okay with women saying, I'm not okay with these relationship dynamics. But like, I think if women keep accepting crap, we're never going to get better.

Speaker 6 Like, I think more women should say no. It's not that okay?

Speaker 5 Man, I completely agree with you. I love it.

Speaker 5 It took me all of these years, 15 years of a crappy, crappy marriage, and then three and a half years of crappy dates, shitty men to get to this point that you just said.

Speaker 5 Like, we shouldn't settle and we shouldn't accept any shit or any bad relationships or behavior that we don't want. And I do think we should have a non-negotiable list.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And it's like, listen, like, the thing is, is that it's also a money thing, right?

Speaker 6 Because now more women have more money, so they don't have to be in a relationship just for you know, like Giselle, for example, right?

Speaker 6 It's like she has everything, she has kids, she has a kid, she has a career, she has everything. So, why say yes to a relationship?

Speaker 6 Like, I think women are waking up and realizing if the relationship isn't great, if it's not adding to my life, I do not need to be in it, especially if I'm financially good myself.

Speaker 5 Oh my god, totally. And it's funny because I just before you got here, I did a video about that because I wanted to do a post on Instagram.

Speaker 5 And I said exactly something to these lines that I think women should find a partner that takes care of them, but not financially, that takes care of them emotionally, physically, mentally.

Speaker 5 But I think the idea of, oh my God, I need to find like a dude that makes money and it's going to buy me a new house.

Speaker 5 I think women are realizing more and more and more, thank goodness.

Speaker 5 goodness by the way that we can make our own money that we should be financially independent that it's it's empowering to have our own careers.

Speaker 5 And you should find a partner that fulfills you in other ways.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, because the issue with the money thing and wanting a man to take care of you is control.

Speaker 6 Very few men or people out there in general, they if they're giving you money, they feel like they have to control you.

Speaker 6 So I always say, if you want a rich man, make sure he's also generous and kind-hearted because

Speaker 6 or else there's going to be like a lot of control. And so, you know, like, I think women are like, I'm fine on my own.
So if you're going to come, you have to add to my life.

Speaker 6 And that's not every man out there, which is why women need to have higher standards. Because also, men, I love, I love men, but they need to rise up.
They need to be better.

Speaker 5 Oh, yes, 1 million percent. And I love that you're saying that.
Now, another breakup that hits right here where we are, and that's why we're so sad about it.

Speaker 5 But I think most people in the United States watch the show, and it's just heartbreaking, right? Because it was such a long marriage. Kyle Richards and Maurice,

Speaker 5 Yumanski, manski who now

Speaker 6 now he's called mo on the show he built an empire for those of you you you can you can give us the rundown for people that don't know who they are because you're great at it i mean it was that i i was actually sad when i saw that they were separating so they're on uh real housewives of beverly hills kyle's on real housewives on beverly hills and he has his own show now they've been together for like i think 25 years they have four well three daughters plus she has one from a previous marriage and so they were like the couple on the housewives that everybody was like I want to be like,

Speaker 6 yeah, so that was sad when they announced that they were separating.

Speaker 6 But again, if you watch what's happening, it's the same thing: is that apparently from watching what's there, Mauricio wasn't giving Kyle the emotional support.

Speaker 5 That's what it sounds like, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, sounds like his business started growing and he founded this company called The Agency, which is now a powerhouse real estate company with offices all over the world.

Speaker 5 and apparently just grew, grew, grew. And he started traveling like crazy.

Speaker 5 And he wasn't spending. That's what it sounds like from the shows, right?

Speaker 6 That's what it looks like.

Speaker 6 I mean, who knows what happened on the inside, but that's at least from what's been communicated is that so her best friend died as well, which is like that happened and she didn't have the support that she needed.

Speaker 6 And again, it's like if you're going to be in a relationship, you should have the emotional support.

Speaker 6 Like, why are you in the relationship if they're just there, they're not supporting you and i think that's what she realized like i've been here for this person i've been riding for this person

Speaker 5 and it's started from nothing right they started together from zero he didn't have the he didn't i mean he didn't have the success she didn't i mean they were they started from the bottom and they grew together yeah and this one is heartbreaking to me because we see that a lot like i and i understand and it's funny because i understand both sides because obviously now he has so much money and he gets invited to all these events and he wants to travel the world and visit all of his offices.

Speaker 5 And it's very difficult to not want

Speaker 5 to enjoy your success. And Kai, on the other hand, apparently she stopped drinking, right? Which is fantastic.
She looks phenomenal, right? Her body is like a killer.

Speaker 5 She wants to like have a more healthy, laid-back lifestyle, and it's not matching. And he's he's not ready to slow down.
Yeah, but at the same time, I have a feeling like he might regret it.

Speaker 6 I don't know. I mean, this is the thing, like it depends on probably later, right?

Speaker 6 Does he ever find somebody like

Speaker 5 that?

Speaker 6 I don't think so. I mean, they had a real connection.
It's just like, that's the thing. It's like, if you want to, if relationships to last, you guys have to be kind of growing on the same page.

Speaker 6 And sometimes it doesn't happen. And that's when it's like really hard because you can tell, like, they still love each other.
Like, there's not a lot of animosity.

Speaker 6 But one thing Kyle did say is like, I think they swept so much under the rug. Like I think that they, I think she was upset with him more than she really knew.

Speaker 6 But she said, well, we never fight, you know? And I think they just.

Speaker 5 That's probably worse, right?

Speaker 6 Yes. I think it all came to a head, but it was probably building.
for years.

Speaker 5 Oh my God.

Speaker 5 Ouch. Oh, that's like, to me, honestly, it's heartbreaking when I see like a marriage last so long.
And yeah, people grow apart, they change, and it's very tough. And

Speaker 5 I watch his show, which is very interesting. I forgot, it's called Beverly Hill, I think it's called Buying Beverly Hills on Netflix.

Speaker 5 And it's very, very interesting. If you guys want to see the lifestyle about Beverly Hills and all these fabulous mentions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And obviously, and he's very candid about it.

Speaker 5 He's like, you know,

Speaker 5 I'm not ready to slow down. And he looks at the camera and he says that I want to travel.
I want to do this. I want to do that.
And

Speaker 5 my company is growing. I'm only 52 years old, I think.
And Kaya wants a different lifestyle. And I dreamed about getting old with her, but we need to be happy doing what we're doing.

Speaker 5 And I think right now it's just not clicking. Now,

Speaker 5 she's not the only one. We don't know if she's having the affair with Morgan Wade.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 5 but I mean, all the evidence is out there.

Speaker 6 I think that if they're not actually like having sex with each other, she's definitely emotional support, maybe emotional affair-ish kind of thing. I mean, she's providing something.

Speaker 5 Something now. Let me ask you a question because you're the expert and I have no idea.
I see this trend a lot.

Speaker 5 Like, some girls get so disappointed in their husbands or their partners. And I listen, by the way, I have zero judgment and nothing against it at all.

Speaker 5 You know, if you want to try something new, go for it. I think whatever makes you happy.
But I do see that, at least here in LA, because the other girl did the same thing, Chris.

Speaker 5 She broke up with what's his name from yeah she broke up with Jason from selling sunset from selling sunset and now she's happily happily married to yeah g-flip yeah so it's the same thing she broke up with a man and now she's with g-flip now kyle we don't know if she's with the singer or not what's the name of the singer i forgot oh morgan wade yeah morgan wade but apparently she's doing something with morgan wade

Speaker 5 do why do you think that is do you think they're like man this i cannot deal with this man anymore. I'm going to try something else.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I think it's because they can't find men who satisfy all their needs.

Speaker 6 And then, you know, if you find a woman and she's giving you the emotional connection and she's also giving you the sexual connection, a woman or a non-binary, right? Why not? Why not?

Speaker 6 I mean, you know, like, yeah, why not?

Speaker 6 To me, it's just like finding somebody who meets all of your needs. And if that happens to be in the form of a woman or whatever, like, who cares? I think it's them realizing I don't have to settle.

Speaker 6 And the picture looks a little bit different than I thought it was going to look. But like, if you look at Chriselle and G-Flip from what they share, they look so happy.

Speaker 5 So happy.

Speaker 6 I mean, so, you know,

Speaker 6 she's not sitting there saying, I'm not getting what I want. She seems very happy with everything she's getting from G-Flip.
So like, why not?

Speaker 6 I mean, I think it's a decision to say, I want to be loved as much as I want to be loved. And who's going to do it?

Speaker 5 And I think that's great, actually oh my god yes me too I think it doesn't matter as long as the person is fulfilling all your needs it honestly that's all all that matters so you know but it's very interesting how the change you know especially in Kyle's situation because Kyle was with Mauricia for like forever 25 years is a lifetime four kids is a lifetime so this is a huge change for her I'm sure it's not easy you know what I mean like a lot of a lot of Beverly Hills marriages Hollywood marriages they're having threesomes They're inviting other people in.

Speaker 6 They're not sharing that.

Speaker 6 They're not like, that's queer. So it's very probable that perhaps Kyle had been with a woman.
I know she said she never had, but like, at least.

Speaker 5 She said she never had.

Speaker 6 Yeah, at least in the case of Chris, I know she said like she'd kissed women before. So I don't think it really came out of like nowhere, nowhere.

Speaker 6 I think that they probably had interest in women before or they were in threesomes or whatever.

Speaker 6 And that's kind of where it came from, rather than it being like this complete switch from heterosexual to a different kind of relationship.

Speaker 5 Yeah, true. Yes, we are a little, in general, more open-minded here in California when it comes to relationships.
That is a very good point. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I want to talk about another one before I forget. Scandalval.
I know we talked about it before, but I want to talk about a different part of it. And I want your opinion.

Speaker 5 I think, I mean, I'm so happy for Ariana, right? She's having all the success in the world that she deserves.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 5 Tom has moved on, but this is the question I have for you. The friends.

Speaker 5 I had one of his best friends on the show, Billie Lee.

Speaker 5 And she's a sweetheart. And I was talking to Billy, and very few people talked about it because the split was very tough.
And it split the friends in half. And then we were talking about loyalty.

Speaker 5 and it's a tough one because

Speaker 5 now if you watch the new season after like i don't know how long has it been a year or six months i don't know after everything happened a lot of the friends are saying that like what do you do in a situation like that i mean okay he made a horrible mistake

Speaker 5 we are not saying i'm not saying by any means that he didn't he made a horrible mistake it was disgusting it was awful i think he admitted on camera that he made a horrible mistake he definitely should have done it.

Speaker 5 I mean, for whatever is worth it,

Speaker 5 he's hopefully never going to do it again. It was a huge life lesson.
And everybody moved on. And thank goodness, now we know that it was for the best for Ariana, right?

Speaker 5 Because now she's following her path.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the best thing could have happened to her.

Speaker 5 Exactly. Thank God.
Yeah, because otherwise she would still be stuck there. Now she's following her path.
She's the star that she deserves to be. La la la la la.
But I'm thinking about the friends.

Speaker 5 Now the friends are divided because they're like, okay, if I talk to Tom, I lose Ariana's friendship because she doesn't want to share friends.

Speaker 5 And then on the other hand, like some friends are like, they feel they still need to be loyal to, like, like Billie was saying to me when she was here on the podcast.

Speaker 5 She said, well, he was my friend at the time. I was shocked that he did what he did.

Speaker 5 But I was worried about him because some nights I was thinking, like, what is this guy going to do? Is he going to do something stupid?

Speaker 5 And I felt like I had to stand up by my friend.

Speaker 5 Then there's the other Tom you know that I met and I talked to Tom I went to Tom Tom I mean the business suffered people that had nothing to do with the price of fish you know their employees etc etc

Speaker 5 what do you do in the situation because I kind of agree like if a friend of mine made a huge mistake if it's a really really close friend I don't feel I could completely turn my back on a friend.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's tough.

Speaker 6 I mean, I think it also depends. I think like Tom Sandoval obviously is not like an evil person, right? Like, that's the thing.
Like, I saw he donated money to Sheena when she needed it.

Speaker 6 Like, it's not like he's like all evil doing horrible things.

Speaker 6 It sounds like he was a really good friend to some people, and he also was a really bad boyfriend to Ariana at the end of their relationship. So, it's like it's a complicated situation.

Speaker 6 I think, you know, show loyalty to whoever you're the closest to.

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Speaker 6 And also, like, I don't agree with Ariana saying you can't talk to him or else from a filming standpoint for the show, it makes no sense. So like right there, I'd be like, just get over it.

Speaker 6 Like do what you got to do for the show, Ariana. Like film with him if it's for the show, because that's everybody.
It's the show is everybody. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 So I didn't agree with being like, you can't be friends with.

Speaker 5 I agree. I think that's a little too childish.
Like, I'm not going to share a friend.

Speaker 5 Right? And also, like, you're putting the person like in a horrible spot.

Speaker 6 And if he's apologized, if he's explained, if he's never treated

Speaker 6 you horribly, but you see that he did this horrible thing, like,

Speaker 6 I would be concerned. I'd be like, well, if you did this to somebody else, are you going to be lying to me? But like, talk to him about it.

Speaker 6 And if he's genuine and he's sincere, I don't see a problem with them staying friends with him I mean I do think it's childish to be like oh you can't you know like I get it I get that she's hurt but

Speaker 5 this also did provide her with a huge boost and it is a really positive thing yes at the end of the day for her no I agree and and I of course she's hurt I think anybody would be very very very very very hurt yeah and I think I'm hoping he it seems like he learned the lesson but the people in the middle like I don't know if you've been watching the episodes I watched an episode that Sheena was literally crying because she had a heart-to-heart with Tom.

Speaker 5 And she said, I saw my friend, you know, and I want to move past this. And I want to be able to talk to my friend, but also she's friends with Ariana.

Speaker 5 She doesn't want to lose one and she doesn't want to lose the other. So the whole thing made me think of loyalty and friends.

Speaker 5 And I don't think any adult should have to be in the spot of like picking friends.

Speaker 6 Like, I think it would be okay to say, you can be friends with him. I'm not going to be around if he's around.
but like to control that person being friends with him, I think it's controlling.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's not the right thing.

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Speaker 5 And there's another thing too.

Speaker 5 Different levels of dishonesty and disloyalty.

Speaker 5 But let's Just put it out there because they said it a million times on the show and the reunion and Andy Cohen mentioned almost everybody on the show they have cheated, yeah, they have kissed each other, cheated on each other.

Speaker 5 It's not like they are perfect, perfect saints and never did anything wrong.

Speaker 5 The more you watch the show, the more you find, like, almost everybody, we're all humans, especially like when you're growing up and everything.

Speaker 5 It's not like they all had this impeccable records when it came to relationships, right?

Speaker 6 Right, like Lala slept with James when he was with Raquel.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 5 Oh my god, I even forgot about that one.

Speaker 5 And now Lala is so mature and so different, right? After everything that happened to her horrible experience with that pig, like whatever.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think, I mean, people should provide Tom with a chance to grow at the very least.

Speaker 6 If he does it again, like then maybe, but yeah, maybe it's a major character for I agree.

Speaker 5 Give him a chance to grow up.

Speaker 5 Are you surprised that Jax and Brittany are divorcing? No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 Nobody expected him to.

Speaker 6 I mean, I should say for me, I mean, nobody expected that he wouldn't. I know she says he didn't cheat.
Like, come on. Like, I mean.

Speaker 5 You think that was the reason?

Speaker 6 I don't know if that was the reason. I think that she got used to him doing that kind of stuff, but.
Oh, really? Yeah, after a while, I mean,

Speaker 6 he, he, I just, what I never saw out of all the episodes that I watched of Vanderpump Rules was him doing nice things for her. Like, what was he actually doing for her? She loved him.
I love him.

Speaker 6 I'm putting up with this because I love him. him.
But, like, what has he done for her?

Speaker 5 For a while, that's just my person. I thought he was changing

Speaker 5 because, you know,

Speaker 5 whatever. I'm just so naive.
But I also think a lot of girls,

Speaker 5 they have the baby. They're like, oh, I have the baby and I made him a father.
He's going to change because of that. Nicole is shaking her head.

Speaker 6 No, some people change, but I think I change.

Speaker 5 But a lot of girls think that's not going to happen, right? Not him.

Speaker 6 Not him. No, no, no, no.
He even said, I think I saw a quote, like, my brain makes me do these things. You know, like, the people you shouldn't trust are the ones who are like, I'm just a bad person.

Speaker 6 Like, they're self-identifying that way. Like, that means that's their identity.
Like, they're not going to, you know, like, those guys are like, I don't know. Like, I just feel like I'm a bad person.

Speaker 6 And you have to be like, no, you're amazing. I love you.
Like, those are the guys you should really run from because

Speaker 6 they don't see themselves as good.

Speaker 5 I don't think they're going to be able to do that. He wasn't ready to grow.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 I tell you, I I have met him in person a few times, and I tell you guys, I never said that before. I met him twice last year.
And one of the times, this was the red flag to me.

Speaker 5 I was dating someone, which, by the way, I'm very proud of myself. I got rid of him because I was madly, madly crazy about this guy because the sex was like the hottest sex in my life.

Speaker 5 But he was very toxic because he was, he is, because he didn't die. He's a trust fund baby, so he didn't have to work.
So we were going out at crazy hours until two, three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 5 I can't because I work a lot. I wake up 6 a.m.
5.30 a.m. every day.
And I remember one night, it was like a Sunday. This is why I didn't forget.
We were at a really famous bar here on sunset.

Speaker 5 It's called Pigson, like a hole in the wall, but it's a really famous hole in the on Sunset. I forgot.
It's called Pig something.

Speaker 5 I forgot the name, but it's a really famous place that people go.

Speaker 5 after hours because it's i mean what bar is going to be open imagine 2 a.m

Speaker 5 and i remember being there and this dude that i was dating and he was drinking and i remember thinking catherine what the hell are you doing at this bar you have to be up in a few hours walk your dogs or that's when i started thinking you know there's something wrong in my life that i'm dating this dude i gotta get rid of him that was many months ago last year and jax was there with a friend who was his manager whatever

Speaker 5 on sunday on sunday too it was around 2 a.m i swear to god and i started talking to him and his friend and he was like very you know he had this nasty attitude, like, I can't talk to a girl.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, dude, I'm not trying to pick you up, my boyfriend. And the guy I was dating wasn't even my boyfriend.
We were dating. And I said, dude, I'm not trying to pick you up.

Speaker 5 My boyfriend's here. And we started talking.
But I remember thinking,

Speaker 5 somebody who is married with a kid at a home and is at this dive bar, like in general,

Speaker 5 exactly, right? There's not, because, why? Because nothing good at that hour of the night happens on a, you're not doing business,

Speaker 5 you're getting drunk, everybody was drinking. I'm not saying he wasn't doing drugs that I didn't see it, so please don't put words in my mouth.

Speaker 5 But usually people are either drinking or doing drugs there, and nothing good comes out of it that late.

Speaker 6 He said, I can't talk to, I can't see girls.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was like, oh, I cannot talk. He was very afraid, very afraid, like that some blonde was trying to pick him up.

Speaker 6 That means that Brittany made a rule with him.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 6 If you go out,

Speaker 5 don't talk to girls.

Speaker 6 But why does she have to make the rule? Yeah. Because it happened.

Speaker 5 Exactly. She, oh, Brittany.
Exactly. And that was the second time, by the way, a few months before I was at the really famous golf tournament here in the Pacific Palisades, the Genesis.

Speaker 5 And he was there, same thing. We were at this VIP lounge, the Tito's lounge, the vodka lounge, and he was there with a group of guys.
And I was there with a girlfriend.

Speaker 5 And his his friends came talk to me, and my girlfriend, and he said the same thing: he moved away from the group, and his friends were like, Oh, he's not allowed to come and talk to girls.

Speaker 5 And we all started laughing because they're like, We don't want to pick him up, we don't give a fuck about who he is.

Speaker 5 Same thing, it reminded me, like, okay, obviously, this guy is not even allowed to be. So, to me, those were like the red

Speaker 6 because he got a slap on the wrist from Britney for doing something. That's why the rule was there in the first place, you know.

Speaker 5 Okay, now we know, like, it crumbles. Like, if you don't trust your husband away from you, that's usually a bad sign.

Speaker 6 Yeah, totally. She'll find someone if they do end up divorcing.
I'm sure she'll find someone.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God. Poor Brittany.
I mean, she tried. She seems like a super nice girl.

Speaker 6 And I'm sure she's happy because she has a beautiful kid, you know, and so I know that she probably feels like she got her kid out of that. And she wouldn't trade that for the world.
But,

Speaker 6 you know, it's a long time to be with somebody who's potentially a cheater and have that happen over and over and over again. That takes a hit on your self-esteem.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God. Yeah, for sure.
That's, it's really, really, but I'm going to tell you guys, like, it's very empowering. And if you ask her, she's going to say, it's so hard.

Speaker 5 And I say that, like, from my experience, getting rid of this dude, it's so hard when you really like someone, but you put yourself first. And you say, you know what? I deserve better.

Speaker 5 Get the hell out.

Speaker 5 It's really, really hard, especially when you like the person. But at the same time, it makes you feel so strong.

Speaker 5 Because, like you said in the beginning of this podcast, because you feel like you deserve better and you set your standards higher.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, you do. And it's, I mean, it's brave.
Like, it's easy to cling to love. That's not, right? Because you don't, like, it's easy.
You don't want to be alone.

Speaker 6 You don't really want to have somebody there for you. But I really, truly believe that's the only way to get something better.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. 1 million percent.
You've got to say, no, get the hell out. I deserve something better.

Speaker 5 Because I still got to talk about the dating podcasts.

Speaker 5 Before we run out of time, one last celebrity situation that's in the news and it's heartbreaking. Christine and her husband.
I don't even know his name. What's going on?

Speaker 6 Christian, I think, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 She's so gorgeous. I love her.

Speaker 6 I never, so I never read her book, but I know that she talks about it because one of my clients was actually like, Yeah, I read Christine Quinn's book, and she said she manifested her husband.

Speaker 6 And she.

Speaker 5 She did. What does her husband do?

Speaker 6 He's rich, some rich, I think he's retired.

Speaker 5 I think that's what I'm saying. For people that, wait, for people that don't know who she is, Christine Queen is on Sunset.
She's on Singell. She was on Selling Sunset.

Speaker 6 She said on the show, like, my type is rich, nerdy guys.

Speaker 6 She wanted to live in this one particular house, and she manifested it, and she married him, and they live in the house, and it was like, it seemed like this really cool story of like, she manifested it, and she got everything she wanted.

Speaker 6 And then, like, nothing else came out about their relationship. Like, there was no bad stories, there was no good stories, and then all of a sudden, it comes out that he's arrested.

Speaker 5 And she had a baby with him.

Speaker 6 Yeah, she, he threw, apparently, allegedly threw a glass at her and was very, it's coming out that he's controlling.

Speaker 6 And it's just, um it's sad because she's like a boss bitch you know what I mean and it's like her persona on the show you wouldn't even imagine that she would be in that dynamic and putting up with that stuff I know I hope she doesn't right I hope that's it yeah

Speaker 6 he did get arrested for domestic violence correct yeah he got arrested I think he got arrested twice and she said that she was paranoid that he was like bugging her hotel room and that he faked suicide to see if she loves him I mean this is all her words, and nothing has been proven.

Speaker 6 But it just goes to show you, A, you never know what's happening in somebody's relationship. And, like, I just always preach this.

Speaker 6 Like, if you, you could find love, but if you don't heal that stuff from the past, it's going to come back. It's going to come in your relationship.

Speaker 6 So, probably, how she's feeling in the relationship is related to how she felt in childhood. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure there's some tie there where she thought she had dream love, and then

Speaker 6 it's a horrible thing.

Speaker 5 I admire her so much. I did read her book.
I think she's such a kick-ass chick. And I really hope this gets resolved the best way possible.
Because obviously, I was a victim of domestic violence.

Speaker 5 I was abused for 14 and a half, 15 years. And I think it's never, ever, ever acceptable.
So

Speaker 5 if they do it once and you let it happen again, it's going to happen again. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. No.

Speaker 6 Yeah. We want more for her.
I mean, she's such a badass, you know? Like.

Speaker 6 So if she manifested this, she can manifest something even better.

Speaker 5 Okay. Moving on, because I want to talk about the dating apps.
For people that don't know you, and I love telling the story because I really believe in love can be found everywhere.

Speaker 5 You are happily married. Your husband is a prince.
You guys have adorable kids. Your diamond is like sparkles from a million miles away.

Speaker 6 He got it because he said it was like fiery, like me. That's why he got this one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and you met on Tinder. So girls, there is hope meeting the right.
one on Tinder, on any dating app for that matter, and you're a love coach.

Speaker 5 But obviously, it's a huge controversy because most people complain, and I'm one of them, because these dating apps is such a freaking shit show.

Speaker 5 So, for those who don't know you or didn't listen to the past episodes when you came on Cat on the Loose, can you give us like some quick pointers in terms of like how to weed out the riff ref or the crap to find the shiny diamond?

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, I always say, look, I put at the end of my profile, I said looking for a very special man.

Speaker 6 And I put that in there because I was like, that's going to communicate that I want one relationship, but it's also like a little bit of a challenge like I wanted to kind of activate a challenge in the guy without saying like no hookups So definitely put that in your profile if you're looking for one person no hookups.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, don't put no hookups I always put no hookups

Speaker 6 like the jaded don't put no hookups.

Speaker 6 No, so I put literally I put looking for a very special man because I'm like this can be but they all think they're special Well, I'm gonna be the judge of that right like that's how I felt but so here's what I did when I was online dating So first of all before I even went on the apps I just told myself like I'm this person.

Speaker 6 Who I am is I find the good ones. I know it's a sea of crap.
I get it, ladies and men. It's horrible.

Speaker 6 You're going to put yourself out there and you're going to see, oh my God, like 99% of people suck. Like, they're not what I want.
This is horrible.

Speaker 6 The reason I was able to find love is that I didn't give my emotions to the experience.

Speaker 6 So I realized, like, I'm not going to let some loser guy who I've never met or even gone on a date with make me feel like I cannot find love. So I was very like neutral about it.

Speaker 6 I would go in the apps. I would just swipe on the people I liked.
I only said yes to the guys who messaged me first. If guys were not communicating the way I liked, I didn't give it a lot of emotion.

Speaker 6 I just was like, ah, on to the next. And I'm like, I'm just going to hold the space for the person that I really, really like.
I didn't read the profiles so much, assuming somebody's my husband.

Speaker 6 Like I literally gave it. almost zero emotion.
And I think like that's how you have to go into it.

Speaker 6 You can't make people your husband when you see a profile, you can't get devastated because somebody ghosts you.

Speaker 6 Like, I think people hate date online dating because they put so much of their own emotion into it.

Speaker 5 Just be more pragmatic about it.

Speaker 6 Yes, and just like neutral. Okay, do I like how he's showing up in the communication? Did he ask me out in a respectful way? If yes, then go on the date.

Speaker 6 If you get a bad vibe, close the connection, but don't make it mean like I can never find love.

Speaker 5 Like, yeah, no, you should never start with like like if yeah, I think if you come from a place of negativity, yeah, like if you decide oh, everybody sucks, I'm never gonna find love.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you're never gonna find love. I agree.

Speaker 6 I just focused on like quality over quantity. I'm pulling the good people to me, and that's it.
And like, you know, I went out with the people I wanted to go out with. It wasn't a lot.

Speaker 6 I was very much like quality over quantity kind of person, you know? And I didn't know when I was going out there with my husband. I was like, maybe I'll like him.
Maybe I won't.

Speaker 6 I liked what he wrote in his profile. Half of his pictures I honestly didn't like.
Then half of them I did like. You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 And I'm like, so you gave him a chance.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was like, well, some pictures he looks good. Some he doesn't.
And so let's see, you know?

Speaker 6 Now I like what he looks like.

Speaker 5 He's very good looking, by the way. But it was just

Speaker 5 a sweetheart and he's very good looking.

Speaker 6 You know, some guys don't know how to pictures.

Speaker 6 But yeah, and even when we went on the date, like I had a good vibe, but I wasn't like, this is my husband, right? I just was like, let's see. I'm looking for somebody who matches my criteria.

Speaker 6 Like, that's the thing I went in on with. Like, I'm not looking to prove myself to anybody.
I'm looking for the person who matches my criteria. And I don't mean some like huge checklist.

Speaker 6 I meant like the real things that are important to me, not what my ego wants, what my heart really wants. I was like, I can find that.
I was also out and about.

Speaker 6 Like, I wasn't like relying on the dating apps, but why not use them if they're there?

Speaker 6 Now, with that being said, I hear that like Hinge or Hinge or one of the apps is being sued because people are saying like they're saying

Speaker 6 so listen that it's not I know it's not the best experience for a lot of people, but you can make it easier by removing your emotion by like whatever it's triggering in you.

Speaker 6 If you sit with your journal and you deal with it and you get it out of your system, it's neutral.

Speaker 5 Well, what I say is don't do it 10 million hours a day. You know, like do it a little bit maybe before you go to sleep or on the weekends and mix it up with going out in the real world.

Speaker 5 Don't forget to go out in the real world, you know, to go to events, do something new around your neighborhood, try out a new sport. It shouldn't substitute like, you know, just real interaction.

Speaker 6 No, no, don't be like, also, like, the thing is that if you really are like loving your life, or at the time, like, I was finding love, I was, I'm still into my business, but I was into growing my business.

Speaker 6 Like, I wasn't sitting there like, I feel so lonely and life is crap. It was like, I was working, I was growing, I was doing things.
And so it's like, yeah, if I have a date, great, I'll go.

Speaker 6 But then it's not, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 I always say that I think you need to be super happy with your life. You need to have a million things going on.

Speaker 5 And then, yeah, if you find a relationship or if you find time for a date, that's great.

Speaker 5 But if you're needy and you're desperate and you keep saying, like, I need to find someone, I need to find, that's the energy you're passing on. And that doesn't work.

Speaker 6 You're going to find someone. Need, I always say, like, it's not need repels.
Like, yes.

Speaker 6 So it's like the more you can be really truly, I know, like, it's like easier said than done, but like, happy with your own life.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God. Because that's crucial.
That's key, key, key. Now, before we run out of time,

Speaker 5 just the past few days, I decided to try out for the first time match because I got one million messages the past three years because I've tried Hinge, blah, blah, blah, all these dating apps.

Speaker 5 And so many people asked me, Have you tried match? Have you tried match? And I never tried it before because I think it's very expensive.

Speaker 5 And I don't like, I never spent money on a dating app ever before. But so many people asked me to try it.
I'm like, okay, it's $45 a month. So I said, okay, I'm going to pay for one month.

Speaker 5 So I unlocked it and I almost died of a heart attack. My experience, I think it's horrible.
Like, basically, they didn't match me.

Speaker 5 They just unlocked like all the men in California, like a bunch bunch of men all over the United States.

Speaker 5 They completely ignore my criteria, which is like Beverly Hills and surrounding areas. Because to me, like, you know, geography is a deal breaker.

Speaker 5 I even send them an email, like, hello. Yeah.
Why are you ignoring my criteria? So my experience with match so far, for all of you guys that send me messages and ask me, has been really bad.

Speaker 5 I literally just unlocked it a few days ago.

Speaker 5 I don't know. So if anybody out there listening had a good experience on a match, you're welcome to tell me.
I just started trying to tell you guys. If I do go on a data match, I'll let you know.

Speaker 5 But I thought it was like very discombobulated. They just show you like a million.
Oh, look, here it is for your money. And I'm like, I don't want, I don't want 99 unmatches.

Speaker 5 I thought that was like a horrible craziness, chaotic. I've never been to the moment.
Like people that I would never even talk to. I thought that was very deceiving, you know.

Speaker 5 They just unlocked like all this man. I don't want like all this quantity.
And they literally ignored like all my filters. So I'm not sure about that one.
Like,

Speaker 5 that's my honest answer.

Speaker 6 I am, I was on match so many years ago when it was when it was new. So I like, I really am a fan of just like anything where it's easy.

Speaker 6 You know, like if it's, I don't like the ones where it's like so much information.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 6 I know some people like that, but for me, I'm like, no, I'd rather just swipe and then connect.

Speaker 5 It's the same.

Speaker 6 You can't tell. It's so hard to tell who someone is from a profile.

Speaker 6 Like, I'm always like, just if you get in person with somebody that you feel a vibe with as quick as possible or get on the phone as quick as possible and see.

Speaker 6 But so I haven't been, I mean, I know clients who have met on like every app, plenty of fish, but I don't hear too often match. I will say that.
I hear I met on Hinge. I hear I met on Tinder.

Speaker 6 I've never had a client meet someone on Bumble. I mean, maybe I might be forgetting, but the most common ones where people meet people seem to be right now, at least in my community, Tinder and Hinge.

Speaker 5 Really? Yeah, usually most guys they say they love bumble because the girl makes the first move. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hinge, I never met anybody on Hinge. I try it here and there, but I've never been on a date on Hinge in my life.
But I agree, I always like the ones that you can, you know, pick a few a day, I guess.

Speaker 5 But like you said, I think the approach is don't go crazy, you know,

Speaker 5 do a few a day, I guess.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, as little time as possible like i would swipe in the morning close it work check and it's really like who whoever's showing up how i like i would talk to and if they weren't it's like okay bye go go for someone else and and that was it you know and you are proof that there are good men out there on tinder believe yeah there are some and and i will say like in addition to going doing that stuff i was every morning i was thinking about my vision of my person like that's more what i did i connected to the energy of my person.

Speaker 6 I would, every day, if I could, like, whatever was being triggered in me, like, I did the inner work. And so, that's also what helps it work.

Speaker 6 Because I really believe that when you're really a match, when you really feel worthy, when you really believe, like, when you're really in that state, the person's gonna come to you through whatever avenue is the most easy.

Speaker 6 Like, I've had clients where they're walking down the street and their person runs after them, and that's their person, or they're at an event, you know?

Speaker 6 So, I think, like, folk, do the apps, but the most important thing is like being real with yourself. Like, am I actually aligned? Am I a match for what I want?

Speaker 5 I love that you said that.

Speaker 5 I think the first lesson that we all have to learn is we need to be so happy with ourselves and our life's self-love, first of all, and that's how we're going to attract the right person for us.

Speaker 6 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 Thank you. I missed you.
I hope you come back more often.

Speaker 5 This was amazing. Thank you so much.
Nicole will tell everybody how they find you for those who don't know you.

Speaker 6 Well, the easiest place is you can find me on Instagram at Nicole Moore Love. That's more with two O's, like Demi Moore, not related, but Nicole Moore Love, everywhere on the internet.

Speaker 6 Nicole Moore Love, or my website is loveworks method.com.

Speaker 5 LoveWorks Method, and you're the best love coach in the world. It was so nice.

Speaker 5 Thank you, guys. Be safe out there and never ever give up on love.
And I'll see you very soon again. Thank you, Nicole.
Many kisses.

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