CELEB BREAKUPS & LOVE ADVICE WITH LOVE COACH NICOLE MOORE

My guest today, Nicole Moore, is a love coach, celebrity love advisor, and relationship expert. She has been on Cat on the Loose several times before, and it's a huge pleasure welcoming her back because she always has fantastic right-on-point advice.
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I'm so happy to have you back. Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
It's been a minute, right? I know, yeah. So much that I want to talk about.
I think there's nobody better than you to dish on all this crazy celebrity chaos out there. It's a lot.
It's a lot. So let's rock and roll because there's so much I want to cover.
Let's do the celebrity fun stuff first. The first one that I want to mention, did you watch the J-Lo movie, This Me Now? I didn't, but you know what? I saw all the clips on TikTok.
I feel like I watched it from watching all the TikTok clips. I was invited to the premiere.
And so I was like I was like okay yeah I gotta watch because I went there and I was invited and then she did the behind the scenes you guys gotta watch by the way if you didn't see it on Amazon because she was very raw on the behind the scenes which I really admire like no makeup all the chaos all the story but what I the question I want to ask you is a lot of people are saying that it gets to the point especially in her career she's already so rich she married ben after all the 20 something years so people are saying like isn't it a little tmi at this point what is your opinion i don't know like the thing is that you know how they say if you really have a great relationship like you're not posting it everywhere like usually the people have a good relationship they're just is that, you know how they say, if you really have a great relationship, like you're not posting it everywhere. Like usually the people have a good relationship.
They're just having the relationship, you know, it's like, oh, happy birthday on Instagram. Not, oh my God, you're the love of my life.
And I can't live without you. So that's the interesting thing is like, why isn't she just living in the relationship? Why feel the need to promote the relationship? Like, I don't know, but it is a little bit weird and also it

seemed like Ben really didn't want to do it but he was doing it for her which I think is is nice in a way but my question is why doesn't she just live the relationship and enjoy it if it's so good that's a great question right and you know it's interesting because on this documentary it's available on Amazon by the way guys he participates on the documentary So he said a phrase that I thought was very sweet. He was like, oh, when we go back together, one of the things that I told her was, I don't want you to do social media.
And then I thought about it and I was like, wait a minute, I am marrying a boat captain and I'm basically saying you need to keep the ship out of the water. And then I understood that it's not something I can ask her to do, that all the social media and the scrutiny comes with her job.
And I thought it was very sweet that he said that. But that being said, I kind of agree with you.
It's like, yeah, it's part of her job, but it doesn't have to be all the time. Like, look at me, look at me, look at my husband, look at my husband, look at my husband.
Yeah, I mean, maybe, listen, she struggled so much in love. So, like, maybe she's just finally excited and she feels like this is it.
And she's a Leo, you know? So maybe she just wants to be out there. But I did, this is one thing I will say.
From the clips on social media, I did see more of their closeness. Because all the paparazzi pictures, it seems like Ben hates Jen.
And he's unhappy. So that was one good thing I saw from the clips.
Like there were moments where it really seemed like they do actually have a good relationship. Yeah, like a good marriage, right? And it's funny because Jane Fonda, which did a cameo in the movie, she says that and it's also on this behind the scenes.
She says that to JLo, like, why are you putting putting it all out there why aren't you just living this wonderful love story in private if the scrutiny of the press is what destroyed their relationship the first time around yeah and her answer was we're just living our lives but in my eyes I think it's more than just living our lives because if you're just living your lives you can shut off the camera yeah yeah and it's like I don't know like for me just some things are precious right

and so she had to know when I put this documentary out there there's I mean there was a there's been

a lot of criticism I'm actually shocked by how much I just know from TikTok from how much criticism and it's like I wonder how she feels about that because it's like you're putting something out there you're saying this is my incredible love and people are just picking at it and like from an energetic perspective I would want to protect the relationship a little bit more from people's opinions I totally me too I think I would be so like oh my god especially because she admits that she's so jealous yeah like don't flirt with my husband don't be near my husband I think at this point like I would feel like you know what I just really want to enjoy this part of my life by myself but whatever do you think this is gonna last I think they're gonna try and make it last I mean here's the thing okay so we have JLo who's a love addict right and Ben Affleck who's a recovering addict so really it depends I think like if life stressors hit too hard you never know what could happen I I think they're gonna i think she's gonna hold on for dear life let's let's hope it lasts we're hoping for a happy ending on this one i mean i want jlo to have great love for sure i mean one thing is she always stays open like that's what i like about jlo she always tries again she always believes in love you know it's better than. No, one million percent.
She's like me, like I'm an eternal. I think you got to get up and try and try and try and try.
I think there's even a song like that, right? You try and try and try and never give up, never give up. Now, another one, this is a sad one, but I want to ask your opinion.
Gisele Bündchen and Tom Brady ended up getting divorced. I was heartbroken because I thought they were in it for the long run she's Brazilian of course I love her being Brazilian but and then I heard some nasty gossip about her just the past few weeks in the media a bunch of people saying because she's dating her whatever some jiu-jitsu guy whatever I don't know if it was her trainer and people started saying like oh she was already dating him she was cheating on Tom Brady na na na na and finally she gave an interview and she shut it down she was like that's a lie and I cannot believe just because a marriage breaks up that women get treated like that yeah I believe her I mean I don't know her personally but she just just, she's like all about the Four Agreements book by Miguel Ruiz.
Like that's all about integrity. Like I don't think she cheated, you know, but obviously I feel like she gave the ultimatum to Tom Brady.
Like don't go back to football. And when he did that, he broke the relationship because he proved that she was not his priority.
So like I'm kind of happy for that she's left even though it's sad that the marriage ended but she I mean it's Giselle she deserves to be a priority like hello and I think that I mean I don't want to say anything but I think a lot of these guys uh they they yeah they fall in love more with what they do like the career the sport than with the person that they're with and then

even when they come home of course we don't know them we're just speculating but I think when they

come home they get lazy like even in terms of like having sex or having intimacy they just

yeah I'm glad you cells with that hot trainer like you know I know but I want to talk about

that for a minute because you're a love coach and I see a lot of women complaining about that like

Thank you. hot trainer like you know I know but I want to talk about that for a minute because you're a love coach and I see a lot of women complaining about that like why do you think it is like when so many relationships don't work out so many times the woman gets the blame yeah I hear that a lot and I get messages about that a lot like the the girl gets but oh she didn't do do whatever, or she was the cheater, or she wasn't a good wife.
Why do you think that is? Because I think society still thinks like relationships are for women, women want the relationship, and God forbid. I just, I think women, society doesn't want women to want better for themselves.
I did a video on YouTube that was talking about like how really total catch women should not settle settle and they should have a guy that's everything they want and there was comments from men all the comments were from men telling me basically like you shouldn't be saying this yeah and I was like so what are we supposed to do settle that's what they were trying to say and I'm like what first of all why are you watching a video for women but like and I was just like wow like this is what women are dealing with like they can't even want more because everybody tells them not to want more and even the men out there in the dating market are like don't tell women that they should want more and I think that it's like society isn't okay with women saying I'm not okay with these relationship dynamics but like I think if women keep accepting crap accepting crap, we're never going to get better. Like, I think more women should say no.
This is not okay. Amen.
I completely agree with you. I love it.
It took me all of these years, 15 years of a crappy, crappy marriage, and then three and a half years of crappy dates, shitty men, to get to this point that you just said. Like, we we shouldn't settle and we shouldn't accept any shit or any bad relationships or behavior that we don't want and I do think we should have a non-negotiable list yeah and it's like listen like the thing is is like it's also a money thing right because now more women have more money so they don't have to be in a relationship just for you know like Giselle for example right it's like she has everything she has kids she has a career she has everything so why say yes to a relationship like I think women are waking up and realizing if the relationship isn't great if it's not adding to my life I do not need to be in it especially if I'm financially good myself oh my god totally and I it's funny because, just before you got here, I did a video about that because I wanted to do a post on Instagram.
And I said exactly something to these lines that I think women should find a partner that takes care of them, but not financially, that takes care of them emotionally, physically, mentally. But I think the idea of, oh my God, I need to find like a dude that makes money and is going to buy me a new house.
I think women are realizing more and more and more, thank goodness, by the way, that we can make our own money, that we should be financially independent, that it's empowering to have our own careers. And you should find a partner that fulfills it in other ways.
Yeah, yeah, because the issue with the money thing and wanting a man to take care of you is control. Very few men or people out there in general, they, if they're giving you money, they feel like they have to control you.
So I always say if you want a rich man, make sure he's also generous and kind-hearted because like, or else it's going to be like a lot of control and so you know like I think women are like I'm fine on my own so if if you're going to come you have to add to my life and that's not every man out there which is why women need to have higher standards because also men I love I love men but they need to rise up they need to yes be better oh yes one million percent and I love that you're saying that now another breakup that hits right here where we are and that's why we're so sad about it but I think most people in the United States watch the show and and it's just heartbreaking right because it was such a long marriage Kyle Richards and Mauricio Umansky who now now he's called Mo on the show he built an empire for those of you you you can you can give us the rundown for people that don't know who they are because you're great at i mean it was i was actually sad when i saw that they were separating so they're on uh real housewives of beverly hills kyle's on real housewives of beverly hills and he has his own show now they've been together for like i think 25 years they have four well three daughters plus she has one from a previous marriage and so they were like the couple on the housewives that everybody was like i want to be like them yeah so they were sad when they announced that they were they were separating but again if you watch what's happening it's the same thing is that apparently from watching what's there mauricio wasn't giving kyle the emotional support that's That's what it sounds like it sounds like right yeah sounds like his business started growing and he founded this company called the agency which is now a powerhouse real estate company with offices all over the world and apparently just grew grew grew and he started traveling like crazy and he wasn't spending that's what it sounds like from the shows right that's what it looks like I mean who knows what happened on the inside but that's at least from what's been communicated is that yeah so her best friend died as well which is like that happened and she didn't have the support that she needed and again it's like if you're gonna be in a relationship you should have the emotional support like why are you in the relationship if they're they're just there they're not supporting you and i think that's what she realized like i've been here for this person i've been writing for this person and they started from nothing right yeah they started together from zero he didn't have them he didn't i mean he didn't have the success she didn't, I mean, he didn't have the success. She didn't, I mean, they were, they started from the bottom and they grew together.
Together. Yeah.
And this one is heartbreaking to me because we see that a lot. Like I, and I understand, it's funny because I understand both sides because obviously now he has so much money and he gets invited to all these events and he wants to travel the world and visit all of his offices.
And it's very difficult to not want to enjoy your success. And Kai, on the other hand, apparently she stopped drinking, right? Which is fantastic.
She looks phenomenal, right? Her body is like a killer. She wants to like have a more healthy laid-back lifestyle and it's not matching and he's not ready to slow down yeah but at the same time i have a feeling like he might regret it i don't know i mean this is a thing like it depends on probably later right is he ever gonna find somebody like exactly that i don't think so i mean they had a real connection it's just like that's the thing it's like if you want to if relationships to last you guys have to be kind of growing on the same page and sometimes it doesn't happen and that's when it's like really hard because you could tell like they still love each other like there's not a lot of animosity but one thing Kyle did say is like I think they swept so much under the rug like I think that

they I think she was upset with him more than she really knew but she said oh we never fight you know and I think that's probably worse right yes I think it all came to a head but it was probably building for years oh my god oh that's like to me honestly it's heartbreaking when I see like a marriage last so long and yeah people grow apart they change and and it's very tough and I saw I watch I watch his show which is very interesting I forgot it's called Beverly I think it's called buying Beverly Hills on Netflix and it's very very interesting if you guys want to see the lifestyle about Beverly Hills and all these fabulous mentions blah blah blah blah blah and obviously and blah, blah. And obviously, and he's very candid about it.
He's like, you know, I'm not ready to slow down. And he looks at the camera and he says that I want to travel.
I want to do this. I want to do that.
And my company is growing. I'm only 52 years old, I think.
And Kyle wants a different lifestyle. And I dreamed about getting old with with her but we need to be happy doing what

we're doing and I think right now it's just not clicking now she's not the only one we don't know if she's having the affair with Morgan Wade I don't know I mean but I mean all the evidence is out there I think that if they're not actually like having sex with each other she's definitely emotional support maybe emotional affair ish kind of thing i mean she's providing something something now let me ask you a question because you're the expert and i have no idea i see this trend a lot like some girls get so disappointed in their husbands or their partners and I listen by the way I have

zero judgment and nothing against it at all you know if you want to try something new go for it I think whatever makes you happy but I do see that at least here in LA because the other girl did the same thing Chris shell she broke up with what's his name from yeah she broke up with Jason from Selling Sunset.

From Selling Sunset.

And now she's happily, married to yeah G Flip yeah so it's the same thing she broke up with a man and now she's with G Flip now Kyle we don't know if she's with the singer or not what's the name of the singer I forgot oh Morgan Wade Morgan Wade but apparently she's with morgan wade do why do you think that is do you think they're like man this i cannot deal with this man anymore i'm gonna try something else yeah i think it's because they can't find men who satisfy all their needs and then you know if you find a woman and she's giving you the emotional connection and she's also giving you the sexual connection a woman or a non-binary right why not why not I mean you know like yeah why not to me it's just like finding somebody who meets all of your needs and if that happens to be in the form of a woman or whatever like who cares I think it's them realizing I don't have to settle and the picture looks a little bit different than I thought it was going to look but like if you look at Grishel and G Flip from what they shared they look so happy they are so happy I mean so you know it she's not sitting there saying I'm not getting what I want she seems very happy with everything she's getting from G Flip so like why not I mean I think it's a decision to say I want to be loved as much as I want to be loved and who's gonna do it and I think that's great actually oh my god yes me too I think it doesn't matter as long as the person is fulfilling all your needs it honestly that's all that matters so you know it's very interesting how the change you know especially in Kyle's situation situation because kyle was with mauricio for like

forever 25 years is a lifetime four kids is a lifetime so this is a huge change for her i'm sure it's not easy you know what i mean like a lot of a lot of beverly hills marriages hollywood marriages they're having threesomes they're inviting other people in they're not sharing that so they're not like that square so it's very probable that perhaps kyle had been with a woman i know she said she never had but like at least she said she never had yeah at least in the case of chris shell i know she said like she'd kissed women before so i don't think it really came out of like nowhere nowhere i think that they probably had interest in women before or there were threesomes or whatever and that's kind of where it came from rather than it being like this complete switch from heterosexual to a different kind of relationship yeah true yes we are a little in general more open-minded here in in California when it comes to relationships that is a very good point yeah i want to talk about another one before i forget scandal of all i know we talked about it before but i want to talk about a different part of it and i want your opinion uh i think i mean i'm so happy for ariana right she's having all the success in the world that she deserves.

And Tom has moved on.

But this is the question I have for you.

The friends.

I had one of his best friends on the show, Billy Lee.

And she's a sweetheart.

And I was talking to Billy and very few people talked about it. Because the split was very tough and it split the friends in half and then we were talking about loyalty and it's a tough one because now if you watch the new season after like I don't know how long has it been a year or six months I don't know after everything happened a lot of the friends are saying that like what do you do in a situation like that I mean

okay he made a horrible mistake we are not saying I'm not saying by any means that he didn't he made a horrible mistake it was disgusting it was awful I think he admitted on camera that he made a horrible mistake he definitely should have done it I mean for whatever is worth it he's he's hopefully never gonna do it again it was a huge life lesson and everybody moved on and thank goodness now we know that it was for the best for ariana right because now she's following her path yeah that's the best thing could happen to her exactly thank god yeah because otherwise she would still be stuck there now she's following her path she's the the star that she deserves to be la la la la but i'm thinking about the friends now the friends are divided because they're like okay if i talk to tom i lose ariana's friendship because she doesn't want to share friends and then on the other hand like some friends are like they feel they still need to be loyal to talk like like um billy was saying to me when she was here on the podcast said well he was my friend at the time i was shocked that he did what he did yeah but i was worried about him because some nights i was thinking like what is this guy gonna do is he gonna do something stupid and i felt like i had to stand up by my friend then there's the other tom you know that i met and i talked to tom i went to tom tom i mean the business suffered people that had nothing to do with the price of fish you know their employees etc etc what do you do in the situation because i kind of agree like if a friend of mine made a huge mistake if it's a really really close friend i don't feel i could completely turn my back on a friend yeah Yeah. It's tough.
I mean, I think it also depends. I think like Tom Sandoval obviously is not like an evil person, right? Like that's the thing.
Like I saw he donated money to Sheena when she needed it. Like it's not like he's like all evil doing horrible things.
It sounds like he was a really good friend to some people. And he also was a really bad boyfriend to Ariana at the end of their relationship.

So it's like, it's a complicated situation.

I think, you know, show loyalty to whoever you're the closest to.

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And also, like, I don't agree with Ariana saying you can't talk to him or else. From a filming standpoint for the show, it makes no sense.
So like right there, I'd be like, just get over it. Like, do what you got to do for the show, Ariana.
Like film with him if it's for the show, because that's everybody. The show is everybody.
You know what I mean um so i don't agree with being like you can't be friends with i agree i think that's a little too childish like i'm not gonna share a friend right and also like you're putting the person like in a horrible spot and if he's apologized if he's explained if he's never treated um you horribly but you see that he did this horrible thing like i would i would be concerned i'd be like well if you did this to somebody else are you going to be lying to me but like talk to him about it and if he's genuine and he's sincere i don't see a problem with them staying friends with him i mean i do think it's childish to be like oh you can't yeah you know look i get it i get that she's hurt but this also did provide her with a huge boost and it is a really positive thing yes at the end of the day for her no I agree and and I of course she's hurt I think anybody would be very very very very very hurt yeah and I think I'm hoping it seems like he learned the lesson but the people in the middle like I don't know you've been watching the episodes. I watched an episode that Sheena was literally crying because she had a heart to heart with Tom.
And she said, I saw my friend, you know, and I want to move past this. And I want to be able to talk to my friend.
But also she's friends with Ariana. She doesn't want to lose one.
She doesn't want to lose the other. So the whole thing made me think of loyalty and friends.
And I don't think any adult should have to be in the spot of like picking friends. Like I think it'd be okay to say you can be friends with him.
I'm not going to be around if he's around. But like to control that person being friends with him, I think it's controlling.
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And there's another thing too. Different levels of dishonesty and disloyalty.
But let's just put it all there because they said it a million times on the show and the reunion and Andy Cohen mentioned. Almost everybody on the show, they have cheated.
They have kissed each other cheated on each other it's not

like they are perfect perfect saints and never did anything wrong ever the more you watch the show the more you find like like almost everybody we're all humans especially like when you're growing up and everything it's not like they all had this impeccable records when it came to relationships right right like lala slept with james when he was with raquel right oh my god i even forgot about that one yeah and now lala is so mature and so different right after everything that happened to her harbor experience with that pig like whatever yeah i think i mean people should provide tom with the chance to grow at the very least if he he does it again, like then maybe. But yeah, maybe it's a major character for, I agree.
Give him a chance to grow up. Are you surprised that Jax and Brittany are divorcing? No, no, no.
Nobody expected him to, I mean, I should say for me, I mean, nobody expected that he wouldn't. I know she says he didn't cheat.
Like, come on. Like, I mean.
You think that was the reason i i don't know if that was the reason i think that she got used to him doing that kind of stuff but oh really yeah after a while i mean he he i just what i never saw out of all the episodes that i watched of vanderpump rules was him doing nice things for her like what was he actually doing actually doing for her? She loved him. I love him.

I'm putting up with this because I love him. But like, what has he done for her?

For a while, that's just my perspective. I thought he was changing because, you know, whatever.
They're just so naive. But I also think a lot of girls they get they have the baby they're

like oh i have the baby and i made him a father he's gonna change because of that nicole is shaking her head no some people change but i think but but a lot of girls think that's what's gonna happen right not him not him no no no he even said i think i saw a quote like my brain makes me do these you know like the people you shouldn't trust are the ones who are like i'm just a bad person like they're self-identifying that way like that means that's their identity like they're not gonna you know like those guys are like i don't know like i just feel like i'm a bad person and you have to be like no you're amazing i love you like those are the guys you should really run from because oh my god they they don't see themselves as good i don't think he wasn't ready to grow up yeah i know i i don't i i tell you i met i've have met him in person a few times and i tell you guys i never said that before i met him twice last year and one of the times this was the red flag to me i was dating someone which by the way i'm very proud of myself i got rid of him because i was madly madly crazy about this guy because the sex was like the hottest sex of my life. But he was very toxic because he's he was he is because he didn't die.
He's a trust fund baby, so he didn't have to work. So we were going out at crazy hours until two, three o'clock in the morning.
I can't because I work a lot. I wake up 6 a.m., 530 a.m.
every day. And I remember night, it was like a Sunday.
This is why I didn't forget. We were at a really famous bar here on Sunset.
It's called Pig Sunset, like a hole in the wall. But it's a really famous hole in the wall on Sunset.
I forgot. It's called Pig Something.
I forgot the name. But it's a really famous place that people go after hours.
Because, I mean, what bar is going to be open? Imagine 2 a.mm and I remember being there and this dude that I was dating and he was drinking and I remember thinking Catherine what the hell are you doing at this bar you have to be up in a few hours walk your dogs or that's when I started thinking you know there's something wrong in my life that I'm dating this dude I got to get rid of him that was many months ago last year and Jax was there with a friend who was his manager whatever no no on Sunday on Sunday too it was around 2 a.m I swear to god and I started talking to him and his friend and he was like very you know he had this nasty attitude like I can't talk to a girl and I'm like dude I'm not trying to pick you up my boyfriend and the guy I was dating wasn't even my boyfriend we were dating and i said dude i'm not trying to pick you up my boyfriend's here and we started talking but i remember thinking no somebody who is married with a kid at home and is at this dive bar like in general exactly exactly right there's not because why because nothing good at that hour of the night happens on a side you're not doing business yeah you're getting drunk everybody was drinking i'm not saying he wasn't doing drugs that i didn't see it so please don't put words in my mouth but usually people are either drinking or doing drugs there and nothing good comes out of it that

late he said i can't talk to i can't yeah he was like oh i can't talk he was very afraid very afraid like that he some blonde was trying to pick him up but that means that britney made a rule with him yes if you go out yes you don't talk to girls but why does she have to make the rule because it happened

exactly

and that was the second time

by the way a few months before i was at the really famous golf tournament here in the pacific palisades the genesis and he was there same thing we were at this vip lounge uh the tito's lounge the vodka lounge and he was there with a group of guys and i was there with a girlfriend and his friends came talk to me and my girlfriend and he said the same thing he he moved away from the group and his friends were like oh he's not allowed to come and talk to girls and we all started laughing because they're like we don't want to pick him up we don't give a fuck about who he is same thing it reminded me like okay obviously this guy is not even allowed to be so to me those were like the red flags because he got a slap on the wrist from britney for doing something that's why the rule was there in the first place you know okay now we know like it crumb like if you don't trust your husband away from you that's usually a bad sign yeah yeah totally she she'll find someone if they do end up divorcing i'm sure oh my god poor

britney i mean she tried she just seems like a super nice girl and i'm sure she's happy because

she has a beautiful kid you know and so i know that she probably feels like she she got her kid

out of that and she wouldn't trade that for the world but you know it's a long time to be with

somebody who's potentially a cheater and have that happen over and over and over again that

takes a hit on your self-esteem oh my god yeah for sure that's it's really but i'm gonna tell you guys like it's very empowering and if you ask her she's gonna say it's so hard and i say that like from my experience getting rid of this dude it's so hard when you really like someone but you put yourself first and you say you know what i deserve better get the hell out yeah it's really really hard especially when you like the person but at the same time it makes you feel so strong because like you said in the beginning of this this podcast because you feel like you deserve better and you you set your standards higher yeah yeah you do and it's i mean it's brave like it's easy to. That's not right.
Because you don't like, it's easy. You don't want to be alone.
You don't want to have somebody there for you. But I really truly believe that's the only way to get something better.
Oh yeah. One million percent.
You got to say no, get the hell out. I deserve something better.
Before I, cause I still got to talk about the dating podcasts. Before we run out of time, one last celebrity situation that's in the news and it's heartbreaking christine and her husband i don't even know what's going on christian i think so i don't know she's so gorgeous i love her i never so i never read her book but i know that she talks about it because one of my clients was actually like yeah i read christine's quinn's book and she said she manifested her husband and and um she did what does her husband do he's right some rich some i think he's retired for people that wait for people that don't know she's christine queen was on selling was on selling sunset and um she she said on the show like my type is rich nerdy guys she wanted to live in this one particular house and she manifested it and she married him and they live in the house and it was like it seemed like this really cool story of like she manifested it she got everything she wanted and then like nothing else came out about their relationship like there was no bad stories there was no good stories and then all of a sudden it comes out that he's arrested and she had a baby with him yeah she he threw apparently allegedly threw a glass at her and and was very it's coming out that he's controlling and it's just um it's sad because she's like a boss bitch you know what i mean and it's like her persona on the show you wouldn't even imagine that she would be in that dynamic and putting up with that stuff i know i hope she doesn't right i hope that's it yeah he did get arrested for domestic violence correct yeah he got arrested i think he got arrested twice and she said that she was paranoid that he was like bugging her hotel room and that he faked suicide to see if she loves him i mean this is all her words nothing has been proven but it just goes to show you a you never know what's happening in somebody's relationship and And like, I just always preach this, like if you, you could find love, but if you don't heal that stuff from the past, it's going to come back.
It's going to come in your relationship. So probably how she's feeling in the relationship is related to how she felt in childhood.
You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure there's some tie there where she thought she had dream love and then it's a horrible. I admire horrible i admire her so much i did read her book i think she's such a kick-ass chick and i really hope this gets resolved the best way possible because obviously i was a victim of domestic violence i was abused for 14 and i have 15 years and i think it's never ever ever acceptable so no yeah if they do it once and you let it happen again it's gonna happen again yeah yeah yeah no yeah we want more for her i mean she's such a badass you know like so if she manifested this she can manifest something even better okay moving on because i want to talk about the dating apps for people that don't know you and i love telling the story because i really believe in love can be found everywhere.
You are happily married. Your husband is a prince.
You guys have adorable kids. Your diamond is like sparkles from a million miles away.
He got it because he said it was like fiery, like me. That's why he got this one.
And you met on Tinder. So girls, there is hope meeting the right one on Tinder, on any dating app for that matter matter and you're a love coach yeah but obviously it's a huge controversy because most people complain and and i'm one of them because dating apps is such a freaking shit show so for those who don't know you are didn't listen to the past episodes when you came on cat on the loose can you give us like some quick pointers in terms of like how to weed out the riffraff or the the crap to

find the shiny diamond yeah well i always say like i put at the end of my profile i said looking for

a very special man and i put that in there because i was like that's going to communicate that i want

one relationship but it's also like a little bit of a challenge like i wanted to kind of activate

a challenge in the guy without saying like no hookups so definitely put that in your profile

if you're looking for one person no hookups yeah no don't put no hookups oh i always put no hookups

Thank you. kind of activate a challenge in the guy without saying like no hookups so definitely put that in your profile if you're looking for one person no hookups yeah no don't put no hookups oh i always put no hookup no no because that's like more from like the jaded don't put no hookup no so i put literally put looking for a very special man because i'm like this but they all think they're special well i'm gonna be the judge of that right like that's how i felt but so here's what i did when i was online dating.
So first of all, before I even went on the apps, I just told myself like, I'm this person. Who I am is I find the good ones.
I know it's a sea of crap. I get it, ladies and men.
It's horrible. You're going to put yourself out there and you're going to see, oh my God, like 99% of people suck.
They're not what I want. This is horrible.
The reason I was able to find love is that I didn't give my emotions to the experience. So I realized like I'm not going to let some loser guy who I've never met or even gone on a date with make me feel like I cannot find love.
So I was very like neutral about it. I would go in the apps.
I would just swipe on the people I liked. I only said yes to the guys who messaged me first if guys were not communicating the way i liked i didn't give it a lot of emotion i just was like on to the next and i'm like i'm just gonna hold the space for the person that i really really like i didn't read the profiles so much assuming somebody's my husband like i literally gave it almost zero emotion and i think like that's how you have to go into it you can't make people your husband when you see a profile you can't get devastated because somebody ghosts you like like I think people hate date online dating because they put so much of their own emotion into it just be more pragmatic about it yes and just like neutral okay do I like how he's showing up in the communication did he ask me out in a respectful way if yes then go on the date if you get a bad vibe close the connection but don't make it mean like i can never find love like oh yeah no you should never start with like if i think if you come from a place of negativity yeah like if you decide oh everybody sucks i'm never going to love yeah you're never gonna find love I agree I just focused on like quality over quantity I'm pulling the good people to me and that's it and like you know I went out with the people I wanted to go out with it wasn't a lot I was very much like quality over quantity yeah kind of person you know and I didn't know when I was going on a date with husband I was like maybe I'll like him maybe I won't I liked what he wrote in his profile half of his pictures I honestly didn't like then half of them I did like you know what I mean and I'm like so you gave him a chance yeah I was like well some pictures he looks good some he doesn't and so let's see you know and now I like what he looks very good looking by the way but I met him he's a sweetheart and he's very good looking you know some guys don't know how to take pictures but um but but yeah and even when we went on the date like I had a good vibe but I wasn't like this is my husband right I just was like let's see I'm looking for somebody who matches my criteria like that's the thing I went in on with like I'm not looking to prove myself to anybody I'm looking for the person who matches my criteria.
Like that's the thing I went in on with. Like I'm not looking to prove myself to anybody.
I'm looking for the person who matches my criteria. And I don't mean some like huge checklist.
I meant like the real things that are important to me. Not what my ego wants.
What my heart really wants. I was like I can find that.
I was also out and about. Like I wasn't like relying on the dating apps.
But why not use them if they're there? Now, with that being said, I hear that, like, Hinge or one of the apps is being sued because people are saying, like, they're saying that. Oh, yeah, I talked about it.
Yeah. So, listen, it's not, I know it's not the best experience for a lot of people.
But you can make it easier by removing your emotion. by like whatever it's triggering in you if you sit with your journal and you deal with it and you get it out of your system it's neutral well what i say is don't do it 10 million hours a day you know like do it a little bit maybe before you go to sleep or on the weekends and mix it up with going out in the real world don't forget to go out in the real world you know to go to events do something new around your neighborhood try out a new sport you shouldn't substitute like uh you know just real interaction no no don't be like also like the thing is is that if you really are like loving your life or at the time like i was finding love i was i'm still into my business but i was into growing my business like I wasn't sitting there like I feel so lonely and life is crap it was like I was working I was growing I was doing things and so it's like yeah if I have a date great I'll go but then it didn't matter yeah yeah I always say that I think you need to be super happy with your life you need to have a million things going on and then yeah if you find a relationship or if you find time for a date that's great but if you're needy and you're desperate and you keep saying like I need to find someone I need that's the energy you're passing on and that doesn't work you're gonna find someone need I always say like it's not need repels like yes so it's like the more you can be really truly i know like it's like easier said than done but like happy with your own life oh my god that's crucial that's key key key now before i run out of time just the past few days i decided to try out for the first time match because i got one million messages the past three years because I've tried hinge blah blah all these dating apps and so many people ask me have you tried match have you tried match and I never tried it before because I think it's very expensive and I don't like I never spend money on a dating app ever before but so many people ask me to try it I'm like okay I it's 45 a month45 a month.
So I said, OK, I'm going to pay for one month.

So I unlocked it and I almost died of a heart attack.

My experience, I think it's horrible.

Like, basically, they didn't match me.

They just unlock, like, all the men in California, like a bunch of men all over the United States.

They completely ignore my criteria, which is like Beverly Hills and surrounding areas. to me like you know geography is a deal breaker i even send them an email like hello yeah why are you ignoring my criteria so my experience with match so far for all of you guys that send me messages and ask me has been really bad i literally just unlocked it a few days ago uh i don't know if so if anybody out there listening had a good experience on match you're welcome to to tell me i i just started trying to tell you guys if i do go on a date on match i'll let you know but i thought it was like very discombobulated they just show you like a million oh look here it is for your money and i'm like I don't want I don't want 99 unmatches I thought that was like a horrible craziness chaotic like people that I would never even talk to I thought that was very deceiving you know they just unlock like all these men I don't want like all this quantity and they literally ignored like all my filters.
So I'm not sure about that one. Like that's, that's my honest answer.
I am. I was on match so many years ago when it was like, when it was new.
So I, like, I really am a fan of just like anything where it's easy. You know, like if it's, I don't like the ones where it's like so much information.
I know some people like that, but for me, I'm like, no, I'd then connect because it's like same you can't tell it's so hard to tell who someone is from a profile like i'm always like just if you get in person with somebody that you feel a vibe with as quick as possible or get on the phone as quick as possible and see but um so i haven't been i mean i know clients who have met on like every app plenty of fish of Fish, but I don't hear too often match. I will say that.
I hear I met on Hinge. I hear I met on Tinder.
I've never had a client meet someone on Bumble. I mean, maybe I might be forgetting, but the most common ones where people meet people seem to be right now, at least in my community, Tinder and Hinge.
Really? Yeah, usually most guys, they say they love bumble because the girl makes the first move yeah uh hinge i never met anybody on hinge uh i tried here and there but i never been on a date on hinge in my life but i agree i always like the ones that you can you know pick a few a day i guess but like you said i think the approach is don't go crazy you know do a few a day I guess yeah yeah as little time as possible like I would swipe in the morning close it work check and it's really like who whoever's showing up how I like I would talk to and if they weren't it's like okay bye go go for someone else and that was it you know and you are proof that there are good men out there on tinder believe it yeah there are some and and i will say like in addition to going doing that stuff i was every morning i was thinking about my vision of my person like that's more what i did i connected to the energy of my person i would every day if i could like whatever was being triggered in me like i did the work. And so that's also what helps it work.
Cause I really believe that when you're really a match, when you really feel worthy, when you really believe, like when you're really in that state, the person's going to come to you through whatever Avenue is the most easy. Like I've had clients where they're walking down the street and their person runs after them and that's their person or they're at an event you know so I think like folk do the apps but the most important thing is like being real with yourself like am I actually aligned am I a match for what I want I love that you said that I think the first lesson that we all have to learn is we need to be so happy with ourselves.
And our lives.

Self love first of all.

And that's how we're going to attract.

The right person for us.

Yeah absolutely.

Thank you I missed you.

I hope you come back more often.

I know it's been too long.

This was amazing.

Thank you so much Nicole.

Tell everybody how they find you.

For those who don't know you.

Well easiest place is you can find me on Instagram. At Nicole more Love.
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Or my website is loveworksmethod.com Love Works Method. And you're the best love coach in the world.
It was so nice seeing you. Thank you.
It's true. Thank you guys.
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