"Good Walz" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 1 Look, man.

Speaker 1 Oh my. Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that the culture? Yes, goodness. Wow.
Las Cultoristas.

Speaker 1 Ding-dong. Las Cultoristas calling.
Back at the table. Back at the 50 Shades table.
Yes, across from my girl, staring her straight in the eye.

Speaker 1 I don't know who's the running mate and who's the presidential candidate,

Speaker 1 but that's sort of the vibe. You are,

Speaker 1 as a son of a football coach, like Tim Walls. Yeah.
I think you might be Tim. Which is not to relegate you to a lower status.
Honey, I'm used to it.

Speaker 1 And I am at least half Asian over here. Exactly.
Exactly. And I don't know how much else.
I don't know what the, the rest, I haven't done the 23 in me.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. What if you did? You should.
I should.

Speaker 1 My sister did it, and there's some interesting findings. I guess because she did it, you don't have to do it.
But I think the samples have only gotten bigger.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 They're able to get more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As more people do it. As more people do it.
You know what I just realized, though, the thing about this table is we can't get tactile.

Speaker 1 No, but we are reaching for each other. Actually, could we get tactile? Hold on.
Well, you had to. He had to come out of his seat.
I had to come out. Don't worry, one we touched.

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, you know, I had been really pulling for walls because

Speaker 1 it was making me very nervous.

Speaker 1 Like, you said, can I I say what you said yeah it was kind of giving douchebag energy I didn't say the bag douche there's a huge difference between douchebag and douche yeah go

Speaker 1 explain it douchebag is

Speaker 1 oh like you're not even human to me yeah like you are so vile and awful and so off-putting yeah that like I'm not even I'm not gonna give you the dignity I'm gonna say you're a bag of a person yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean so he was just giving douche like he was saying things that were sort of like

Speaker 1 his tone that he was taking was giving douche. It's a douchebag.
He's a nice, he's, he's, you know, he's the governor of Pennsylvania. He's going to be a bad person.
Not a douchebag.

Speaker 1 Wonderful, wonderful executive,

Speaker 1 whatever. But it's just, he was already getting defensive about like the school voucher stuff and the corporate tax cut stuff.
It's like, we can't have this off the bat. And not great on,

Speaker 1 not great stuff coming out of the college.

Speaker 1 From the college days regarding Israel, that's for sure. Well, anyway,

Speaker 1 some scary scary attitude. I'm sure I really

Speaker 1 look forward to him being in this next wave of Democrats sort of rising up. I think this Veep Stakes was kind of fun to follow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, what I think is like the right choice was made because, to be honest, like, if you need Shapiro to help us win Pennsylvania, just set him loose on Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 The VP is going to have to campaign all over the country. I mean, I like Waltz.
He actually does remind me of my dad. He's a football coach.
He's giving football coach.

Speaker 1 It's giving football coach who also was head of the Gay Strait Alliance, which is a real thing about him. And also, Minnesota is the happiest state.

Speaker 1 And I think he speaks with a very clear voice of a leader. I think he keeps things like, he gives things the gravity they deserve, but he's also like,

Speaker 1 you got to think it's a giggle fest over there at Harris Walls. Yeah, it's got to be.
It's at least.

Speaker 1 Lost Culture level. It's got to be at least.

Speaker 1 Maybe they should come on Lost Cult together and it's going to be like our Josh and Aaron episodes. Just a Kluck Fest.
A Kluck Fest.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think one of them has an Aaron Jackson style. I don't think so.
Or I'm sorry, a Josh Sharp style. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 That is, I don't think so, honey, my wife giving me blowjobs on my birthday. I really hope that one of them can get really real and just talk about their sex life.

Speaker 1 And I don't think so, honey, something they're unsatisfied with. They're in.
But yeah, no, things are good. Karis Waltz, baby.
We're going for it.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 want

Speaker 1 to point out that there was a tweet last night from josh shapiro

Speaker 1 where he was just it was just a video of him like walking through a town in pennsylvania it seemed like it was

Speaker 1 staged not staged it was just like something that like would have been in the reel for the race had he been the pick but the tweet was this was like later last night he it was um

Speaker 1 Let's go, Pennsylvania, 118 days or whatever, till Groundhog's Day. People quoteing it being like, oh, he lost.
Oh, he like, he's out. He's out.

Speaker 1 He actually announced he's tweeting about Groundhog's Day. He's pivoted from the Veepstakes to Groundhogs Day.

Speaker 1 And wow, that is very funny. Honestly, I will say

Speaker 1 the other one, I guess they were talking about was Bashir. And Kelly.
Yeah, but Mark Kelly, I never really thought that was going to happen because I find him to be void of charisma.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can deny that Waltz has like an, he has like an X factor.

Speaker 1 Like he, he's the one that labeled them with the word weird that they're now running with, because I think that's the thing that we've been missing is in the discourse about what's going on is they are weird.

Speaker 1 Like this is weird. Like you look at them at the RNC.
I mean, they brought out Hulk Hogan. Like it's, it's fucking weird.
Good luck trying to

Speaker 1 beat the weird allegations.

Speaker 1 This is something. Well, I'm just saying like this is something we've known since the schoolyard.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been called weird and it's re I've never been able to successfully convince people otherwise. They're spinning out about it.
Like, everyone's saying JD Vance is weird. He's like,

Speaker 1 I'm not weird.

Speaker 1 It's just,

Speaker 1 you can't.

Speaker 1 I'm not weird at all. It's, you call someone weird.
It's, it's over. It's a kneecapping.
It's a kneecapping. Like the only way you brush it off is by literally not acknowledging it.

Speaker 1 Well, this is, this is, I guess, the psychology of being called weird, right? You get called weird. So then your response to that is to act like unbothered and too cool, right?

Speaker 1 And these people don't know. They don't know how to do that.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. They do not know how to do that.
Like they only know how to like try to provoke and, you know, say the thing that they don't really believe that they know is going to get a reaction.

Speaker 1 And that's odd. And it's very tryhard.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's like, and I think we thought a few years ago that the, or people thought like the meanness that comes from like Trump and his underlings was like real and it was real talk.

Speaker 1 And it was like, there was something maybe to whoever's voting for him, maybe quote unquote cool about it. But now it's just like, it's so sweaty.
Everything they do feels like on paper like a joke.

Speaker 1 It is weird. I think it's the right weird.
It's the right weird to use. It's the right word to use.
It's the right weird. Now

Speaker 1 let's pivot to something else. Sure, if that's what you want to do.
I love going to the movies. I think, didn't we go last night now that I I remember? We went last night to a film.

Speaker 1 We had an emotional time at the cinema. We had a very emotional time at the cinema, and you will too if you go see Sing Sing right now.
Go see it. It's so just sublime.
What a wonderful,

Speaker 1 hopeful movie. Without it being,

Speaker 1 it did not seem to Triocly or Schmaltzy, although I love Schmaltz. I love when the chicken fat renders out onto the pan and I eat the chicken grease.
But this is not

Speaker 1 it was not too rich in that it was like every moment of like joy and tenderness is undercut by a moment of like oh the reality of prison of a facility like Sing Sing is extremely grim and dispiriting and dark and awful and

Speaker 1 it really

Speaker 1 kind of and I'm gonna say something so

Speaker 1 so cringe

Speaker 1 but I love a movie about theater.

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 reminding the movie. We should say what the movie is about.
Yes, yes. Because Mo and Yang, I don't know if everyone's done the homework.
Okay, go please.

Speaker 1 So the movie is about incarcerated men in Sing Sing.

Speaker 1 And one of the programs that they're involved in, or the program that these particular men are involved in, is the ART program, which is

Speaker 1 RTA program. That's okay.

Speaker 1 So, but it is ART.

Speaker 1 The RTA, they were doing ART. They're in the RTA program, which is, you know, it's like essentially a theater group at the prison where they put on plays.

Speaker 1 And it's not just something that they're involved in. It's actually something that, you know, helps these men really process their emotions.

Speaker 1 A lot of incarcerated men like don't have an outlet to process the anger at their situation, the grief at their situation, the feelings that they might have about their situation.

Speaker 1 And this is a film about a group of men who are engaged in this program and how it betters them and how it moves them forward and the dynamic relationships within that group.

Speaker 1 And it's Coleman Domingo is the star of this movie. And what a hero on screen he is.
Like he's just so

Speaker 1 winning.

Speaker 1 He's just like, you can track every single emotion. This is like a really, really perfectly calibrated performance in that.

Speaker 1 It is brimming with emotion, but it's never indulgent.

Speaker 1 There's a scene, which I believe should be the Oscar clip and maybe even win him the Oscar, where he goes to his parole hearing and he is attempting to, you know, it's a very, if you've ever seen like Shawshank Redemption, you know, they did a great job of talking about what these parole hearings are like when these men have to go to this panel and basically explain to them that they are rehabilitated and that they can be, you know, they are a viable candidate to be released back into the free world.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 this particular scene, you see just how difficult. that task is.

Speaker 1 And what really blew me away about Coleman Domingo's performance is that he never breaks, but he's always holding the emotion. And just the amount of restraint that he has.

Speaker 1 It reminds me of something that Jennifer Lewis said to me on the set of I Love That For You, which is like, when you don't cry, they cry. And he doesn't let it go until so late into the movie.

Speaker 1 And I won't spoil anything because there's really a lot of very surprising things in the script, too. And it was a beautiful script, but just have to commend him on his

Speaker 1 control of his his emotional instrument, which is at a top point, it's in a point zero zero zero one percentile

Speaker 1 of capability of actors that I've seen. Yeah, and

Speaker 1 just on top of that, like he's acting with basically almost entirely alums, non-actors who are real alums of that program, non-professional actors anyway, who were real incarcerated men who are now in this movie giving these performances.

Speaker 1 And the way, as the number one on the call sheet, he must have made them feel comfortable and open and free and at ease to give these performances, some of which are fantastic, all of which are good.

Speaker 1 Some of them just rise way above. Clarence Macklin.
Oh my God. And I think he should be nominated for the option.
Sean San Jose, who plays Mikey, Mikey.

Speaker 1 Mike, oh, sorry, Mike, Mike, who is like Coleman's character's neighbor, like sell neighbor. Yeah.
Fantastic, like model. I mean, and also like Clarence Macklin helped develop the story for this.

Speaker 1 And this guy's performances, I mean, talk about playing an arc. He comes in one way and he believably leaves a completely different way.

Speaker 1 Every moment, so truthful, so real. There's a danger in him, but you're always wanting to know more.
Just like this movie is. I loved it.
Yeah. Really, really enjoyed it.
So go see it.

Speaker 1 It's a fucking contender, girl.

Speaker 1 Anyway, we did day yesterday. We went to Barry's.
I, I capped out.

Speaker 1 You know what it was? I think that, so I've been going like every day in the morning. In the morning.

Speaker 1 And I think going like really late in the afternoon or working out really late in the afternoon, people that work out after work, my hat is off to you. Hats off.
I need it in the beginning of the day.

Speaker 1 I just came back from the gym and I feel amazing. Yeah.
But not like yesterday. And yesterday, I was,

Speaker 1 I almost didn't make it to the damn film. You really thought that there was no chance you weren't going to make it? No, I was going to make it to the movie.

Speaker 1 I was just like, it was my first time I've ever ended a Barry's class early. Really? And it was next to me.
And it was how convenient that it was the very first time. And I'm the only one who saw it.

Speaker 1 Liar. You always end.

Speaker 1 You've never lied to me, sister.

Speaker 1 But what a fun, what a fun day with Matt. I always love it when you're in town.
Don't go. I know.
I have to go tomorrow. It's been, um, it's been a very Pisces couple weeks for me, you guys.

Speaker 1 P-Town was fun. It was a mixed bag.
I've been a little emotional for personal reasons, but like summer, I think, is like wearing down on me. It's a mixed bag.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Summer is a mixed bag and that's a rule of culture. That's rule of culture number what? I think 94.

Speaker 1 Summer is a mixed bag. I'm on the record of saying, I don't think so, honey, summer.
And then you told me you do like summer. And I was like, I promise you, I don't.

Speaker 1 This is where we meet in the middle.

Speaker 1 It's a mixed bag. There are things that I'm sure you love about summer.
I am positive you love certain things about summer. You don't hate it wholesale.
No, no, I don't hate it wholesale.

Speaker 1 In fact, I always go into it excited and then i just get exhausted and i'll be real i think that mid 30s is really uh hitting hard and i am now in the mind frame of like okay

Speaker 1 what changes do i have to make because i think that i don't know what it is but i'm starting to like examine a lot of things about my life and i'm like it sometimes is it's a little overwhelming to think just at this age, like, where do I live?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, I'm like half between New York and half between LA, which I thought would be cool. But now it's just kind of like it's cool in your 20s.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 I think it's, yeah, if you can pull off bicoastal in your 20s, like, hell yeah, congratulations on the money you made too.

Speaker 1 Like, that was not my reality, but I thought it would be, and it has been fun to be like free and have that availability to go wherever I want and do whatever I want to do.

Speaker 1 But it's getting to the point where it's like, no one ever knows where you are. It's very hard to date like this.

Speaker 1 And I think the travel just really, I mean, I like me telling you that travel wears on you. Like, obviously, you know, but it does wear on you.
And it's just like, it's very taxing.

Speaker 1 And also the social media element of the summer is very overwhelming. And I also get that it looks like I'm fucking killing it on social media in the summer.

Speaker 1 Like people have been like, wow, your summer looks amazing. And I'm like, really? Cause I've been sad most of the days.

Speaker 1 And that's not, that's not for anyone to be like, oh, pity him or like, what's going on? It's just like a reality. And I think, I don't know, I'm starting small.

Speaker 1 I'm starting with drinking a lot less, maybe not really at all.

Speaker 1 And you showed me that app that you've been using. Oh, I'm going to get some, I'm going to get some guff for this.
But what is it?

Speaker 1 It's okay that you get guff because it's what it's, I told Matt about 75 Hard, and some people might know about this. It's a very, I would say, incredibly broy,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 I would say douchier than a Tim Ferriss situation. It's like,

Speaker 1 but I think the framework around it is, I can agree with that.

Speaker 1 It's like, here's what's going on. Tell us what it is.
The full Monty 75 Hard is two 45 minute. This is every day.
This is the laundry list. Two 45-minute workouts.
One of them should be outside,

Speaker 1 which good luck in the winter. But anyway.
So hard already. I know.
I'm already, I'm already like. Two.
Anyway, let me just get through. This is like the full version.

Speaker 1 And I do, I downloaded an alternate app that is basically the same idea, but it's not quite as like toxic mask. And it's just a little bit more like soft.

Speaker 1 But it's two 45-minute workouts a day. You drink one gallon of water, 128 milliliters, or sorry, ounces, 128 ounces, which is double the recommended 64.
It's so much water.

Speaker 1 This program is a full-time job already. It's 16 eight ounce glasses of water when people tell you to drink eight and you're good.
And even that's like good luck. 10 pages of reading a day.

Speaker 1 I say 10 minutes. Like it depends on the pagination.
It depends on the line spacing, whatever. And then

Speaker 1 no drinking, alcohol, and

Speaker 1 no cheat meals slash, you should be on a diet that thing. And I'm like, oh, no, whatever.
Like, whatever.

Speaker 1 What I'm sort of like going towards right now is 20 vegetables a week. 20 vegetables a week.
And it's fun.

Speaker 1 And it's, and actually, like, it's a diet without being a diet because I'm like, let me just like get the vegetables in. Yeah.
Can I say something? Love vegetables. I love,

Speaker 1 I love roasting vegetables on a damn sheet pan. Babe, you heard me talk about cucumber here.
Yes. You heard me get into it about cucumber.

Speaker 1 And by the way, people have been reaching out and saying they've been doing that cucumber thing that I talked about. Remind us what the cucumber is.

Speaker 1 Was that you cut up the cucumber and put a little bit of hot sauce and some salt and pepper on a plate and you just mix it up like it's like tossed almost like buffalo cucumber. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But people have been saying that it is the snack of the summer. It's the snack of the summer.
And there's actually a nominee next year at the Kosher Awards for best snacks.

Speaker 1 Best snack cucumber with a little bit of hot sauce. No, I think we announced that.

Speaker 1 We did too i think we did too but no i love vegetables there's parts of that that do sound too much like yeah what's what sounds like too much well committing to two 45 minute workouts a day is a lot so on this alternate app which let me look let me find it because once i work out once i'm like okay i worked out today and also the thing about the dieting is like that's why you work out is so that you can be you can eat sort of whatever

Speaker 1 and you can have cheat meals like that that that language starts to get fuzzy for me it's called 75 days challenge rather than 75 hard 75 hard it's a little bit like anytime you like miss a day it's like there's a picture of the guy who founded it this like buff

Speaker 1 mean looking dude who's like did you give up no i hate that i hate that it's a little too much that's too shapiro for me it's a little too shapiro i need a tim waltz summer i need a tim waltz 75 days challenge so so now i'm on i'm on the medium difficulty medium challenge i'm on day five okay and it's just one workout yeah and that's basically basically it yeah okay cool

Speaker 1 it also

Speaker 1 the soft and then the easy setting is one workout 10 pages diet water um you can drink in social situations yeah that's i mean honestly here's the thing i'm not even saying i'm sober now i'm just saying it has to change we have to adjust we have to dial it down so we can dial it back up if we want to just to like have the energy have the balance yeah i mean that's the thing is it's like late july august hit i had my i think i had had my literal breaking point on

Speaker 1 monday like so it was like

Speaker 1 yeah and it was just and it was we had just gotten there and i was just like okay you know what i am

Speaker 1 emotionally exhausted and i like

Speaker 1 don't it's not that i don't know why but i don't know enough about why i feel like this to the point where I'm like, let's just try to actively be healthier.

Speaker 1 And I'm really happy that I've been prioritizing exercise. And I'm not not saying, like, I think anyone should cut out alcohol, I'm not making any decisions for you.

Speaker 1 It's just something that's been on my mind a lot more.

Speaker 1 And, um, but what a wonderful instinct for you to like

Speaker 1 understand

Speaker 1 what your coordinates are right now and be like, oh, let me,

Speaker 1 I know what to do, or let me try this out. You're doing EMDR,

Speaker 1 you're well, every now and then. Well, you're just doing, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't matter how often, and

Speaker 1 you are

Speaker 1 taking very concrete actions.

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Speaker 1 How are you feeling? I feel pretty good. Yeah.
I feel pretty good. That's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 I feel good. I had a nice answer, though.
Like, I feel pretty good, and that's it. There's not much to elaborate on.
No, I've got nothing to complain about. I really don't.

Speaker 1 Like, what a huge 180 from last summer. Oh, God.
But I'm really, I'm really sorry you feel this way. And it's been hard to watch you struggle, but I know I have to give you some space.
And I'm there.

Speaker 1 I'm always there for you. That's another thing is like, I am so much more introverted than I used to be.
And I'm wondering about why. I wonder what that is.

Speaker 1 Like, my social battery drains so much faster than it used to drain. I think because.

Speaker 1 I think honestly, because I'm not settled anywhere. I genuinely think I can trace it down to the bicoastal thing is not working for me.

Speaker 1 And that makes me sad because I'll have to sacrifice something in each city. Like, I love New York because it's fun.
And like, I genuinely think like a, like my group of friends is here.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I feel like it's dating is more fun here in New York. I think that that's like, and I like being close to my family.
I love New York energy. But then in.

Speaker 1 in Los Angeles, like I'm like a healthier version of myself. I take care of myself more.

Speaker 1 Like I have a couple of relationships there that are like indispensable to me, like Jared and Greta, like truly and Sudie.

Speaker 1 And like I would, I don't know what I would do if I was not, if I didn't have those with an access to me. But it's the first time in my life where I have no instinct about what to do.

Speaker 1 What to do as in where to be? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. As in like where to be, like where to put my roots down and where to like start things.
I thought I knew. And then all of a sudden I confused myself.
And I think it's because,

Speaker 1 you know, well, a lot of reasons, but like when you don't have to worry about the career anymore, and the career is all you worried about for your 20s, it's like now it's like, that's the part of my life I feel most secure about.

Speaker 1 That's good. That's good.
No, it's, it's good. But then all of a sudden, you're like, oh, I only ever focused on that.
You know what I mean? That's not really true. My social life is wonderful.

Speaker 1 I have my close friends. And I mean, I have lots of things, but

Speaker 1 the realization that like you might be behind in one area because you gave everything to another

Speaker 1 is, I think, maybe a mid-30s moment. It's just reframing what you are saying about like, you thought you knew where to be,

Speaker 1 but you didn't arrive at a decision because what your quote-unquote decision was was splitting time between two places, which is not a decision. Right.
Yeah. It's, it's literally actually.

Speaker 1 Trying to have it both ways. Yeah.
Which is wonderful. And you really made it work.
Yeah. And I am

Speaker 1 so awestruck at the way you've like really made it. I feel like you were genuinely the only girl I knew who was making the bicoastal thing like look good.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's like a dirty word to bicoastal.

Speaker 1 It's like when I'm

Speaker 1 like made up. Yeah.
Well, like, it's like I'll be on the dating app and they'll be like, so where do you live? And I'll be like, well, I'm in, I'm bicoastal in New York and LA.

Speaker 1 And I just feel like it's like, it's already like, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Like no one, no one wants to get involved with someone that's like not around. Sure.
Like who wants that? Yeah. I do have to bring up

Speaker 1 my first two seasons working at SNL, Heidi Gardner and Julio Torres

Speaker 1 submitted a sketch twice, and I really wish I would have gotten picked, but it was just a girl named

Speaker 1 Who's Colin? It's Jared, obviously. Oh, I'll call you back, Jared.
Hi, Frida.

Speaker 1 Frida's second appearance. I know.
He's major on the show.

Speaker 1 Third appearance in

Speaker 1 as many weeks. Did that count as an appearance? I think so.

Speaker 1 Should I have answered the call? No, no, no, don't answer. Oh, my God.
No. Heidi and Julio wrote a sketch about a woman named Deirdre.

Speaker 1 Julio loves this name Deirdre because, as you know, Deirdre is also a name in the actress. Deirdre as a name, Julio loves.

Speaker 1 But it was Heidi playing

Speaker 1 a woman named Deirdre.

Speaker 1 Heidi does give Deirdre. Heidi gives Deirdre, but then her whole thing was, her catchphrase was, in this accent, which I can't quite place, is, I'm Deirdre, I'm bicoastal.

Speaker 1 Her whole thing was, I work at Chipotle.

Speaker 1 Bicoastal Chipotle. Bicoastal Chipotle employee named Deirdre is the Heidi Gardner Julio Torres Van Dijk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing about the Deirdre lifestyle, which is what I'm going to call bicoastal from now on.

Speaker 1 The Deirdre lifestyle title of that. Title of that.
The Deirdre lifestyle. The thing about that is like

Speaker 1 if deirdre's anything like me she also doesn't like really like either of her apartments because I also don't own anything so that's the other thing is it's like I go to my

Speaker 1 own it to like it no I know but like I'm just saying like maybe it would be better and maybe I would enjoy my deirdrel lifestyle a little bit more if you liked one of them if I no maybe yeah sure if I liked one of them but like you know what it is it's like in New York I have like a great location but it's not the dream like you had a drummer and the kid drumming a fucking guy's a horn tell you that my neighbor in my New York apartment his son got a drum kit that is that is a such a huge no-no in New York City you cannot buy a drum set in New York I and especially because he knows how thin the walls are like if he knows he's in New York City New York City yeah you cannot play the drums no I'm sorry or you go to drum class you go to drum class

Speaker 1 you rent it out. And then part of me feels bad because I'm like, you know, like this kid might grow up to be Ringo star.

Speaker 1 Like, and then I ran into the guy in the hallway and he goes, hey, you're, you're Matthew, right? And I was like, yeah, he's like, you're in 4F. I was like,

Speaker 1 and he was like, sorry about the drums. And I was like, yeah, I, I wasn't going to make an issue of it just because it's been one day, but I do wonder if it's going to get better.

Speaker 1 And the guy goes to me, this is funny. He goes, well, trust me, it's a lot louder in there than it is out here.
Well, I'm like, he signed up for it and you didn't.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 be that as it may. You should have been, you should have gone Dolores Catania on his ass.
Oh, and we'll get to that. I apologize.
Well, you should apologize. Well, you should apologize.

Speaker 1 You should apologize. You think I'm a slob.
And then I was like, you are a lying cunt.

Speaker 1 Wait, no. Okay.
So then he was like, don't worry, I'm going to get panels. And I was like, what? And I kind of was like, oh, great.

Speaker 1 And then I said to him, I was like, well, it'll all be worth it when he becomes Ringo Star. And the the guy goes, yeah, I hope so.
And goes in his apartment. And I'm like, okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It might be time to hang it up. He's a great father, clearly.
There's something else in my heart, which is like, I don't want to discourage this kid. Autistic impulses.
Of course.

Speaker 1 And we're not saying that this is not the kid's fault. It's just

Speaker 1 it's really tough to buy drums in this city or any city where people are stacked up on top of you.

Speaker 1 It's not the instrument to give your kid if your living situation is apartment, especially like apartment with walls this thin.

Speaker 1 Like, I swear to God, I'll sometimes watch like YouTube videos on my laptop and you turn it down. And I'll be thinking, am I bothering my neighbors?

Speaker 1 That's the porn thing for me classically. I'm like, am I playing this porn too loud? Oh, this is the worst.
When you have to put yourself on self-tape for an audition. Oh, terrible.

Speaker 1 Well, you don't have, you probably don't do that anymore. But I know, but I know that.

Speaker 1 But like, when you have to put yourself on self-tape for an audition and you're in your apartment and you have to do it several times and sometimes you have to like get angry or yell or say things that are not what you are saying, but they're what the character is saying.

Speaker 1 And you think, what the fuck are they thinking out there right now? I'm saying these lines that are beyond insane. You can't care.
Because guess who doesn't care? Cecily Strong.

Speaker 1 Because the entire time she worked at SNL, she was. screaming, trying out accents and different characters in her apartment.
She was like, I don't fucking care. Like, say what you want.

Speaker 1 I'm Cecily Strong. Yeah, but you know what, though? I guarantee Cecily Strong had a nice apartment with good walls.
Who knows? Just like Tim. Good walls.
Good walls.

Speaker 1 Maybe good walls is the name of the episode. That's better.
That's a better title episode than the Dirty Dragon.

Speaker 1 Deirdra lifestyle because you're going to look at the Deirdre Lifestyle and be like, what the fuck is that? Good walls, they're clicking. They're clicking.

Speaker 1 Also, good luck trying to spell the name Deirdre. No.
Do you want to try?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's no right or wrong answer, is the thing, but go. This is the way you spell it.
Okay, okay. D.
Well, let me do it. Like it's a spelling B.
We should have a lost coach spelling B. Oh!

Speaker 1 That would be nice.

Speaker 1 Dag. We should definitely do a Lost Coach spelling B.

Speaker 1 That's really good. That's really good.
And it's like, your word is Scherzinger.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 then everyone has to be like, can you use it as a sentence?

Speaker 1 Nicole Scherzinger. Nicole Scherzinger.

Speaker 1 Not Gloria Swanson.

Speaker 1 What's her face?

Speaker 1 Sunset Boulevard. Norma Desmond.
Norma Desmond. But Gloria Swanson played Norma Desmond.
Well, don't worry, honey, because when it comes next year on Broadway, we're going. We're seeing Norma.

Speaker 1 What was I saying? Oh, this is how you spell it. Deirdre.
D-I-E-R-D-R-E. Deirdre.
I would say that is, that is my spelling as well. Should we text Julio and see how he spells it?

Speaker 1 I'm texting him right now. Julio.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm actually going to CC you too. Okay, great.
CC you. Julio.
We are talking about. How do you spell?

Speaker 1 Oh, now I guess I'm going to have to spell it.

Speaker 1 The name.

Speaker 1 Are you texting him separately when I'm on this one?

Speaker 1 I'm on the thread with you. Okay.

Speaker 1 How do we get across what name is? Let's voice them now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deirdre.

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 1 Deirdre. Oh, but here's, here's, here's how Apple dictation spells it.
Okay. How?

Speaker 1 D-E-I.

Speaker 1 No, that's so stupid. Honey.
D-E-I-R-D-R-E.

Speaker 1 Dr. Dre.

Speaker 1 Okay, I don't think that there's any way that he's going to come back and say D-E-I-R-D-R-E. Well, I don't want.

Speaker 1 I hope his phone, and I'm sure it doesn't, I hope his phone does not have the dictation sort of like the transcription, the auto transcription.

Speaker 1 Julio has not updated his phone since 2017. That reads.
He probably should. He has 10,000 unread emails.
You're fucking kidding. Wait, how many do I have? I shouldn't talk.
Wait, how many?

Speaker 1 I have. Oh, my God.
You're not going to tell me this. Tell me the number.
I'll tell you my number first. No, this is really scary, actually.
Do you know how many unread emails I have? 35,689.

Speaker 1 Bowen, I'm not kidding. Look.

Speaker 1 35,689. How have you not gone mad? Because let me tell you something about my inbox and I'm looking at it right now.
It is all bullshit. It's all sag after communications, American Express,

Speaker 1 Delta Airlines, Lyft Receipts, Google Calendar. I get like Google Calendar emails.
Don't ever say anything about the union being bullshit. No, no, no.
I just mean what they're sending me is bullshit.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 You need to be. The union's not bullshit.
You need to scroll down and click on subscribe on these hoes. I know, I know.
And trust me, I never wanted to be like this.

Speaker 1 You think I ever wanted to be sad in the summer? 35,689 emails

Speaker 1 in my Gmail, unsure of how to spell Deirdre, single?

Speaker 1 You're about to be. Burnt out.
This is about to be an episode of Horrors where I'm showing you the dead, flattened cats,

Speaker 1 the carcasses, and you are screaming, crying, running out of the house. We need to go through this email account.
But meanwhile, totally fruitless at this point.

Speaker 1 But meanwhile, I think you're so on top of the email. I am on top of all the important ones.
Anything that we're on together, anything that needs my attention, I respond immediately.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you, I get so much bullshit in here. Like, so much bullshit in here.
Who the fuck is Scott Dworkin? And why do I need to know from him that Kamala Harris picks Tim Waltz for VP?

Speaker 1 I have like literally Instagram for that. I can hear from Kamala herself.
God knows she texts me on an automated message three times a day. You got to stop.
You got to stop to quit those.

Speaker 1 Babe, it's like weeds, though. You stop to quit one, six more pop up.
Nancy Pelosi, I lose my number. I'm so grateful for you and what you've done to get Waltz picked.
Don't text me.

Speaker 1 I thought when you said weeds, you were going to talk about the TV show.

Speaker 1 Little box is on the hillside. Is that the theme song of weeds? Yes.
I never really watched weeds. Oh, I loved weeds.
The first three,

Speaker 1 three seasons were good. Season four,

Speaker 1 they were trying to make it new and fresh. I think they moved to Tijuana or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember them rebooting a lot.
Like, now it's like, aren't they supposed to reboot it?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they are supposed to fully bring it back. And I'm like, so what? Is she going to start selling like cocaine?

Speaker 1 because weed's a whole thing weed's a kind of thanks to people like Tim Walls yeah it ain't no thing it ain't no thing I mean like we can literally walk outside into the corner store by the way you've never smoked weed like the weed you can get on the street in New York I'm telling you I don't really get it off the street oh I do oh you're talking about like the the shops yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm not talking about like calling the girls the shops are like okay meanwhile shout out to the travel agency but I mean all the weed shops love I'm not even talking about like any of the the boutique places the boutique places i'm talking about like the bodega you walk into a place like a bodega and they have that's like rolled in keef yeah you're on planet moon yeah and i swear to you jared preeter the biggest stoner i know

Speaker 1 he can't handle the weed that i smoke that's saying something yeah and by the way i'm also aware of the fact that like i do have this big major vice which is marijuana but i i won't give that up no no no no no and i only no 75 Hard is not telling you to give that up.

Speaker 1 And I did ask you that. I was like, is 75 Hard making me stop smoking weed? I did take a peek at the subreddit, unfortunately.
Oh, not unfortunately. The 75 Hard subreddit? It's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 And people are.

Speaker 1 And I just looked up like 75 Hard, Can You Smoke Weed? And people, and there's a whole, there's a bunch of threads on Reddit.

Speaker 1 And the people in the comments were like, well, the guy, this big mean guy who invented it, who like confronts you on the

Speaker 1 OG app.

Speaker 1 He goes,

Speaker 1 the reason they tell you to give give up alcohol is to like get out of the brain fog

Speaker 1 and weed kind of gives you the same thing but i'm like no but weed kind of like weed opens up something for me alcohol like fucking shuts it down yeah you know

Speaker 1 for me it's like a weed actually like makes me come down to a normal level because my anxiety is out of control but like remember when we were in amsterdam we went to that museum and they had that robbie williams exhibit yeah do you remember that one room where it was a picture it was like a picture of someone's head and there was like a million thoughts in the head that were like, this is me when I go into a social

Speaker 1 interaction. And you felt like looking, you were looking to the damn mirror.
I was so

Speaker 1 shook by it. I was like, we weren't stoned, were we? No, we weren't.
But I was just like, this is the reason why I look for ways to quiet things down. Like, is because there is, I can't stop thinking.

Speaker 1 I can't stop my, like, Inside Out 2, when anxiety played by Mile Hawk, like, took the wheels and like drew up the 500 things that could happen like in your brain at any given time based on any event that may happen.

Speaker 1 I was like, that is so what it is.

Speaker 1 And I think that's why sometimes like in a self-assessment, it feels like I leave things like whether it's shows we're doing sometimes this podcast or like social interactions I have.

Speaker 1 And if I assess myself, I'm like, wow, you really did the most. Like you're exhausted.

Speaker 1 That's just like my anxiety, like responding in in a way where it's like, do more, fill the space, like, don't let there be silence. That's, don't be boring.

Speaker 1 That's you flushing the thoughts in your head. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just been really interesting to deeply understand that that is the way that my social anxiety manifests in a way that probably no one would ever think I have it, but I have it so bad.

Speaker 1 And it's incredibly hard for me to get out of the house. And then when I get somewhere, I'm seeming fine because I'm going a mile a minute and and turn the charm on 100% and like am, you know, me.

Speaker 1 But like, then I leave and I'm like exhausted. And I feel like I never really knew that people identified with it in that way.

Speaker 1 I just thought I was like, you know, crazy and at 10 and like was me, Matt Rogers, like a heightened person. But like, I'm now understanding.
And honestly, the Robbie Willie.

Speaker 1 Robbie Williams exhibit helped me realize this. Like, oh, this is like an anxiety response I'm having.
Like, I'm not comfortable. And so that's why I can't slow down.

Speaker 1 I think anxiety is also like a future focused thing.

Speaker 1 You are just accounting for all, all these different outcomes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like you are constantly thinking about the future. Cause, and I don't know if this sounds silly, but it's like, I think it's because you constantly have literally a flight to catch.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 when you have travel plans and like, you're kind of like thinking about, it's like what the scaries are and stuff. It's like

Speaker 1 you just like have a different place to be in a matter of days, and that is going to put you in that space constantly. I completely understand why you feel that way based on what I project.

Speaker 1 Because I think when I'm around like any of my friends or anyone else, like I want people to think like I'm moving, I'm going.

Speaker 1 Because when I am by myself, all I think about is the past.

Speaker 1 So, like, when I'm, I get so stuck. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 I get so stuck in like

Speaker 1 what like what's happened and stuff like that i can't like that i feel like i have to like then

Speaker 1 like put so much on the schedule and stuff like that like it's just like a lot and i can never just like sit like in a moment so i can never enjoy anything

Speaker 1 i'm sorry no

Speaker 1 i'm sorry matt It's okay. I mean, like, I didn't even mean to be like this.
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Because we didn't mean to be like anything. Now I like, we'll start judging myself for doing this on the podcast.
Um,

Speaker 1 girl, I don't know. I think I'm just like, because now tomorrow I'm leaving again.
Yeah. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just trying to figure out.
Like. This is what I'm saying, Matt.
Like, you have, you have no, literally no grounding. Yeah.
It's true. You have.

Speaker 1 You're, you're living the Deirdre lifestyle. I know.
The Deirdre lifestyle is chipping away at me, I think, because it's been like a year and a half of it.

Speaker 1 And it's connected to other things. And it's just like,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 But I

Speaker 1 literally will be fine because I think the fact that I'm even able to acknowledge all this stuff means a positive thing. Like, I think like, like the dam breaking a little bit emotionally is good.

Speaker 1 And you are. And I think that alcohol will make me very sad when I'm in this state.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel, I kind of feel like, never on Beverly Hills when Kyle Richards was like, I can't afford to be tired and sad in the morning.

Speaker 1 I can't drink. That's dark.
Yeah, I know. It's for me, I don't think it's that dark, but it is like, I do get that.
I'm like, I can't add the extra thing right now of like.

Speaker 1 Right. Why would you? Like, if that's like,

Speaker 1 if that's the toggle or if that, if that, like, flips the switch, then, like, there's no reason to do it. Yeah.
You know what I mean? I also think it's just like.

Speaker 1 Like a myth that it's something you need. You know what I mean? It's like, it's really not well this is what people point out all the time especially in like

Speaker 1 aa

Speaker 1 is like

Speaker 1 it's so hard because it is literally shoved in our faces constantly yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 1 you know what i mean i'm just thinking about us like doing ads absolute vodka sure but wait i mean like but that's that's not no that's to have a nice celebratory time and guess what i think that every now and then have a cosmo

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 back to back to me back to you again the chat.

Speaker 1 I but he's oh wait, Julio answered. Oh, what the fuck is that? He's no Deirdre.
No, he just he just sent back D-E-I-R-D-R-E-I, Daredre. Daredre.

Speaker 1 Tell him, tell him, yeah, this is too much. You are indulging him talking.
Yeah, he isn't. He is being very indulgent

Speaker 1 as he's want to do. As he's wanted to do it.
We love him for that.

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Speaker 1 Anyway, I will not continue to drag this into the depths. No, wait, wait, no, but see, this is what is this instinct of not wanting to talk about this?

Speaker 1 Unless you really don't feel comfortable talking about it. I think the instinct to not want to talk about it is just, well, clearly I did talk about it.

Speaker 1 So, and it's, it's been the way that I'm feeling for like kind of a while. And I think that maybe the reason for my new connection with Lana Del Ray.

Speaker 1 But I will say this, all the music that I'm listening to actually is starting to to terrorize me. It's starting to chase me around.
So talk about this. So I need to get out of the loop that I'm in.

Speaker 1 You're in because all the, all the like, and this is, I literally think, and this is something Spotify UI. I need a Spotify.
I need to like wipe it clean and just start fresh.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to do that because literally it's like. It's like.
There's a whole piece in the New York about how the Spotify user experience is actually really damaging.

Speaker 1 And it's like, not, sorry, we love, we love you, Spotify, but also like the way the user experience is designed does not incentivize you to discover new things.

Speaker 1 It literally, the other day, Bowen, I was

Speaker 1 in a bad mood. And I swear to God, I love, I love her so much.
I love her so much. Rana, but I did not want to listen to Chapel Rone again.
I understand. I did not want to listen to Espresso again.

Speaker 1 I understand. I actually needed a little bit of a break from Tortured Poets.
It was making me too sad. I didn't want to.
And then I literally looked. It was almost like I couldn't find new music.

Speaker 1 It was almost like I was like, Spotify would only regurgitate to me things that I had listened to before or things that were exactly the same.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, wait, it really boxes you into this zone and keeps you there so that it can identify more easily what you like. This is the humble you with it.
This is the James Seamus thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 at a certain point, you go, I don't want any of this this right now.

Speaker 1 None of it. It's it's dating apps.
It's shopping online. It's not, it's streaming.
It's like, it's, this is, I'm sorry. And forget about how dating apps has attacked me recently.

Speaker 1 I'm harping on this so much, but wait, talk about this. Forget about it.

Speaker 1 It's almost like, it's actually scary. It's almost like, well, I'm not going to see this person.
Boom. Well, I'm not going to see this type of person.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm not going to, this is never, this will never happen. Boom.
It's just like, I hate feeling so known and basic by my devices. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's like, it will literally make you feel like the smallest person in the world, your phone.

Speaker 1 And this is another Gabe Blebman shout out from his seminal stand-up album, Hai.

Speaker 1 But this was before like we had like a common like discourse around algorithms and shit. Like this came out like 2014, I want to say.
I might be getting the date wrong, the year wrong, but he has it.

Speaker 1 He has a whole joke where he's like, it's creepy how Netflix finds out that you're gay because you don't tell it that.

Speaker 1 Because he goes, meanwhile, like I go on Facebook and I'm like, I'm gay, but I'm a big ol' homo. And then the whole right side of my screen is tank tops, tank tops for sale.

Speaker 1 Which was just, but which is like, this is the thing though. It's like,

Speaker 1 why does it feel like an insult? It's, does it feel, is this what you're saying?

Speaker 1 Because it makes you feel ridiculous. Like your interests are very limited.
That's what it is. And I know that's not true about myself.

Speaker 1 And I honestly think, if I'm to be very real, I think it hurts this podcast sometimes. Of course it does.
We're like, oh, we're talking about the same shit. I feel redundant and boring.

Speaker 1 And so sometimes I'm just like, you know what? It might be nice for some app to force me to read a book. And I have really, I've been trying to put myself out there in regard.

Speaker 1 I honestly, a lot of it was self-protection. And pop music is a drug.
Yeah. And especially as it gets shorter, it's like a little tiny hit that's supposed to make you feel better in a second.

Speaker 1 And guess what? A lot of these girls are really good at it and doing it in elevated ways. I think that's what pisses me off kind of about women's world is because it's trying to be nothing.

Speaker 1 And so therefore it is. And when it gets in my ears, I'm like a little insulted.
I'm like, this is such bullshit, garbage, nothing that I feel like you thought you really could get away with it.

Speaker 1 And you used to actually challenge the pop landscape, Katy Perry. Like, I'll say again, like, when you came out with I Kissed a Girl, everyone was like, who's that? What's she all about?

Speaker 1 That's a new perspective. This is a new sound.
This is a new thing. She was like a warped tour, like pop girl.
It was like a new fresh thing. Now she's, it's a woman's world.
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I know that Lifetimes is better, but it's the same thing. You know what I mean? Lifetimes.
Her second single is called Lifetimes.

Speaker 1 I get that it's like a better song and it's not as like on the nose vanilla, like, but it's also, have you not heard it yet? I've not heard it.

Speaker 1 She's pushing it. Like, they're already moving on to the second single because the first one was such a flop.

Speaker 1 But even that song, like, yeah, you could definitely turn this on at a gay party and we could all like not think about it.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 It's just ambient.

Speaker 1 Doing anything. I mean,

Speaker 1 first of all, I want to say

Speaker 1 I've made the switch over to Apple Music.

Speaker 1 Enjoying it. But that might turn into the same thing.
So far, not because it's reminding me of iPod days. Okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I happen to like some discovery stuff on there.

Speaker 1 There's an app called Song Shift that'll just import your whole Spotify library over to Apple if you want that, but it sounds like you want to start fresh, which may, but like, whatever.

Speaker 1 It's there for you if you want. I've been like dipping into techno, like Sven from Bergheim, like curating a techno playlist.
And I'm like, oh, like he has one on Apple.

Speaker 1 And I'm just like listening to it. I'm like, this is perfect.
This is perfect every day. It doesn't feel like what you're saying, like a quick hit of something.

Speaker 1 It just feels, it is intentionally ambient rather than like deceptively ambient in the way that like lifetimes might be.

Speaker 1 Like put it on a gay party and I guess we'll just like do other stuff while that plays. Techno is like, I'm reading to this and it works.

Speaker 1 Or I'm just like doing, washing the dishes to techno and it's a vibe. And I'm like, this is like.

Speaker 1 there's an authentic thing to this kind of music and to listening to music in this way where you're like, this is just to put on and play. It's like putting on a vinyl on the fucking record player.

Speaker 1 And all you can do is drop the needle and let it play. And like, if you're fussy with like skipping a track, it's like, you're not really supposed to do that.

Speaker 1 You're supposed to just let it play continuously. That is what we are kind of missing right now.

Speaker 1 Am I making sense? No, yeah, it is. It does make sense to me.
But were you about to say something? I think because it exists and breathes. Whereas like pop music, like it's literally a little hit.

Speaker 1 It's peaks and valleys. It's like...
It's drugs. It's drugs.
And some of these girls are drug dealers and they're incredible. I think Sabrina Carpenter is an amazing drug dealer.
Drug dealer.

Speaker 1 That's a rule of culture.

Speaker 1 I think Sabrina Carpenter is an amazing drug dealer because she keeps you hooked. I mean,

Speaker 1 please, please, please. And now did you hear the new song?

Speaker 1 It's called Slim Pickens. Oh, uh-huh.
It's out?

Speaker 1 There's an acoustic version that she performed at the Grammy Museum with Jack Antonoff. That's like out there.
We'll listen to it after this. But she's just like,

Speaker 1 she's super smart and funny. And I, I think the album's going to be great.
I love it. I think, you know what it is?

Speaker 1 Like, we've been talking about how this year is like the year of pop girlies, pop girlies, pop girlies, that there's been so much that it's been all I'm consuming.

Speaker 1 And then suddenly my Spotify is like, you're one thing.

Speaker 1 You are one thing. It's not anyone's fault, like that works there or whatever.
It's just algorithmic. And I get it.

Speaker 1 Like, but even on YouTube and stuff, which is how I've ended up getting a lot of my news,

Speaker 1 it's like, you forget you have other interests than the three things that they send you on YouTube.

Speaker 1 If people are identifying with this, holla, if you hear me. Holly.
I think people have to be, though, because that's like the way the internet works. And it's dehumanizing in a very literal way.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, you think I'm an ATM and I buy three things.

Speaker 1 And that metaphor doesn't really make sense. You think I'm an ATM and I buy three things.
No, but like

Speaker 1 you think I'm an ATM and

Speaker 1 yeah, I, whatever. You know what I mean? It's like I spit out money.
Or you're an ATM and you think I come to you for there's only one thing. Sure, exactly.
I'm sorry. No, you're an ATM.

Speaker 1 You're an ATM.

Speaker 1 Also, what you're, what you're talking about is

Speaker 1 really obsessing over the past and then having anxiety over the future.

Speaker 1 Like literally what's missing, not to sound, this is so fucking eye-rolly, but like what's missing is like a presence, you know like

Speaker 1 and that you should

Speaker 1 be present yeah and um

Speaker 1 breathe it's the only sort of uh conscious and unconscious thing process in the body you know what I mean

Speaker 1 it happens if you think about it happens if you don't well it's like I think I used to like call it like manifesting I was like oh no I'm not like fixated on like what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 I'm just manifesting. You know what I mean? But that's like, and that's always worked for me.
You know what I mean? It's just like lately, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just changing.

Speaker 1 Speaking of YouTube, and I really hope this populates a lot of people's algorithms, look up the School of Life.

Speaker 1 I've told you about this, and I've told, I think I've mentioned this on the pod, but they're this like really cute British company and they like sell books at urban outfitters and shit.

Speaker 1 And it's like little journals, and they're really good, actually. And I sound like a teenager,

Speaker 1 but they make videos too about how like an early bedtime is actually really nice. I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 But then that all leads to like

Speaker 1 at a certain point in life, you realize that like a simpler life is the answer to everything.

Speaker 1 An early bedtime, you just watch what you eat every now and then, not for like any like vanity project, but just as a way of just like taking care of yourself. I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's like a really lovely thing. And like, when I went through that whole moment last summer, like

Speaker 1 I was reading their books, I was watching these videos and I was like, oh, this is a comfort.

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Speaker 1 Do you remember when we saw Varta Jean at the Arrow Store? Yes,

Speaker 1 at the Crown of Anchor. And at one point, she leaves the stage and the piano player played Miley Cyrus.
I know I used to be crazy.

Speaker 1 I know I used to be fun. You love I used to be.

Speaker 1 I was like on the verge of tears. It's a beautiful song.
It's such a good song. It's the greatest song.
That Miley Cyrus. That Miley.
You know who loves that song? Adele.

Speaker 1 Adele.

Speaker 1 I think Patrick, I think House was telling me that Adele has only shouted at two people at her Vegas shows, Miley for I used to be young and Sabrina Carpenter for Espeso. Yep.
Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1 Adele gets it. Adele gets it.
Adele has Spotify too and is feeding her the same shit, too.

Speaker 1 You think? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I will say, like, this was not to knock any of my girls. I was just in a, in a moment.

Speaker 1 I was within an hour where i was like you know what chapel i've listening to you not but this moment is indicative of something yes it is it's just me wanting to like expand a little bit more and feel like a little bit more comfortable and secure that's all and like i i think being like sort of attacked on the internet by the things that you associate with a bad time

Speaker 1 is not great What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Like, it's a lot of this music that's like emotional and like really puts me in my feelings about things I've been through. And I'm like, I don't want to hear that song again.
Yeah. Like

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear this song again. I know.
Like Leave Me Alone Coffee by Chaperone. Oh, beautiful song.
So good. I'm going to listen to it right after this.

Speaker 1 But anyway, let's actually do I Don't Think So, honey, and you go first because it's going to kick us into a conversation about a cultural topic. I was.
Yes. I'm doing that for later.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're doing that for later. Yes.
Okay, got it. Does that make sense? Yes, it makes sense.
Matt and I are going to are going to go.

Speaker 1 We have some work to do, and then we have to go to Watch What Happens Live. We're doing Watch What Happens Live.
We're going to be on this Sunday. And they're having us do an Anime Things Sunday.

Speaker 1 They're having us doing Animal Sunday. Okay, so then I do want, then I want to say one thing.
Okay.

Speaker 1 On this podcast, because I don't know how much of it we're going to have to be able to get out when we go on Watch What Happens Live. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All this hysteria about needing to reboot the Real Housewives of New Jersey, guys, calm down.

Speaker 1 There is a very clear answer here to what needs to happen. Teresa Judice is married to to a man who is dark, toxic, weird, and potentially a little dangerous.

Speaker 1 So as long as she is on the show, her storylines are going to be dark, toxic, weird, and a little dangerous.

Speaker 1 And Jen is her lackey and completely spinning out and clearly miserable and acts like a seventh grader in the way that she treats people and the way that she talks to people and the way that she interacts with the world around her.

Speaker 1 Disgusting. They are

Speaker 1 the the only thing

Speaker 1 besides Jackie, who's like, well, I don't even know what happened. It's so disappointing.

Speaker 1 Like, obviously, never not coming back. And it's crazy because I've met Jackie personally a couple of times and I just don't understand what you think she's doing.

Speaker 1 You met her and her husband at the Glad Awards. The Glad Awards.
Yeah. And then I met her at Pravocon.
I've always thought she was lovely and smart and great.

Speaker 1 And I just don't understand a single thing that she's done. And I hope everything's okay.

Speaker 1 But my thing with the two of them is it's just like they're the cancer here. They are the problem.
Teresa and Jen. You have a great show there

Speaker 1 with Rachel, Danielle, Dolores, Jen Fessler, Margaret, and Melissa. That's like a six people right there.
And then cast a couple new women.

Speaker 1 The reboot of it all, it's like you don't need to do that, especially when you have. an already large group of women with working dynamics.
Did you see Dolores when she was in the,

Speaker 1 well, you guys didn't see this yet, but we saw it.

Speaker 1 Anyway, it's so clear Dolores actually enjoys one group more than the other, but for some reason, she has to pretend that she likes Teresa and Jen more than the rest of them.

Speaker 1 And it's to her detriment. Being Switzerland is overrated.
I think it's something that's worked for her entire life. But that's the thing, too.
It's like you're not making a decision. Right.

Speaker 1 You're not, there's no conviction. And I think that if she's exhausted by being in the middle, that's something she can fix for herself.

Speaker 1 But I also think Dolores Katania, and I think I like this about her, or I understand this about her, she has a difficult time letting go. And I think that

Speaker 1 she's getting better at it in her personal life and stuff. But, you know, she was so close to Frank for such a long time.
And you understand why she's not going to like toss someone like Teresa out.

Speaker 1 They've been like lifelong friends, but like, right is right and wrong is wrong. And there's a lot of right and wrong here.

Speaker 1 The last thing I'll say on the issue is: if Dolores Catania is taken off my television screens, I'm out. I'm no longer a Bravo fan.

Speaker 1 And I do want to publicly, maybe I'll do this on the show on Watch What Happens.

Speaker 1 I do want to,

Speaker 1 there's been documented moments of me questioning your love of Dolores. Yeah, there is.
On video, no less.

Speaker 1 And I have to say, now that I've really like committed to New Jersey, I totally get it. What a fabulous team.

Speaker 1 I totally get it.

Speaker 1 We just worked it out on the remix. We did just work it out on the remix.
Shall we do it out of things, honey? Let's do it. This is, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 This is where we take one minute to rail against something in culture um matt do you want to go first sure i'm also happy to no i i i have something good okay this is matt rogers i don't think so honey as time starts now i don't think so honey everyone hounding me on my instagram reel where i eat the steamer It's a steamer clam.

Speaker 1 People don't seem to know what it is. It seems like people are fascinated by this type of food.
I'll explain it to you so you don't have to say, I don't think so, honey, I know what this is. Okay.

Speaker 1 A steamer clam is a soft shell clam that is served in like a garlicky broth. And

Speaker 1 they pop open. And what you do is you take the tail off, you dip it in some water to clean off the steamer because sometimes there's still some stuff from the sea, sand and stuff.

Speaker 1 You clean it off, you dip it in butter, and then you eat the sucker. Sometimes the steamer clam can be quite large.
And we were in Provincetown.

Speaker 1 And I don't think so, honey, that anyone was going to eat this big one but me. So I said, remember how big that steamer was? It was a big steamer.
Done was the person that recorded this.

Speaker 1 And I put that in my mouth and I wanted it recorded so I could show people my culture. So I don't think so, honey.
All you out there coming from my culture, do some research.

Speaker 1 They did serve that at the restaurant. They serve it all around the northeast and around the country.
Go get yourself a steamer clam. I do think so, honey.
They're delicious. And that's one minute.

Speaker 1 I love steamer. I've been about steamers my whole life, but you are really doing a lot of, I guess, educational work and telling people what these things are.

Speaker 1 And I think that I obviously, it was an un if you go to my Instagram last reel that I posted, it's this one. Yeah.
But it was an uncommonly large one.

Speaker 1 Like everyone at the table was, it looked even bigger in person. It was huge.
It was huge. You are really a true Pisces.
You are a child of the sea. I'm of the sea.
I'm of the waters. I love that.

Speaker 1 That's one of my favorite textural things about you is that you are, you grew up by the ocean. I'm a nautical.
And P-Town is like so my culture.

Speaker 1 But I think my, my number one moment being being there was eating that steamer, but also tied with us watching 30 Rock. Oh my God, we went back and watched 30 Rock.
Us watching 30 Rock.

Speaker 1 We went to A-House and then we were like, let's go back home and watch 30 Rock because I've always been obsessed with this joke. And I finally had to

Speaker 1 get the wording right for the quotes, but it's Elaine Stretch is Jack's mom,

Speaker 1 Colleen, and she meets Liz's family. I think this is a Luda Christmas episode from season two.
And

Speaker 1 they go out to eat together at like a restaurant 30 Rock in the Concourse, like some like chili style place. And then she

Speaker 1 just goes, it's so hard to choose. The photos of the food look so good.

Speaker 1 It's like a perfectly calibrated joke. It's like not too jokey, but it's like so in character for that.
for that scene and for her. And oh, I love it.
I mean, we also watched The Queen of Jordan.

Speaker 1 Queen of Jordan. Which, where was Sherry Shepard's Emmy? Where was Sherry Shepard's Emmy for The Queen of Jordan? Tell me now.
Explain it to me. I don't understand.
That was amazing.

Speaker 1 That episode of TV is incredible. I've wanted to be a singer ever since I was a little drunk.

Speaker 1 I booked a recordings too.

Speaker 1 What did, what was her name? Randy? Randy? She said something at one point that was completely insane. After my second husband shot me for the second time.

Speaker 1 After my second husband shot me for the second time. I knew that love was easy.

Speaker 1 Watching Lynn and

Speaker 1 it was

Speaker 1 watching Lynn and Frank work out their differences. I offered to rent out my Strip Lottie's studio that I got after

Speaker 1 I got money from the city after that cop shot here or something. She just, her character game is that she just keeps getting shot by people.
It's so crazy. Also,

Speaker 1 Portia, I don't care what anyone says. I keep them 3D glasses.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 don't do impressions of other races. Sherry Shepherd, that line delivery from Sherry, don't do impressions of other races.
It's so good.

Speaker 1 Obviously, there's, you know, the famous My Single, My Single is Dropping, is Dropping. One of the cleanest, purest, simplest jokes.
Porsche reads the papers. Porsche reads the pieces.

Speaker 1 My single, my single is dropping, is dropping is the for sales two shoes never worn. It's like, it's a full story.
Wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Also, there's the beginning of the scene where she's shopping and she goes, I need to look good for my party and I refuse to wear anything in my size or appropriate for my age.

Speaker 1 Would go.

Speaker 1 I happen to be a Christian illiterate.

Speaker 1 We'll donate to the Obama campaign. We support Qsenech.
We support Qsenich.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, but I need to mention a rule of culture.

Speaker 1 My single, my single is dropping is the for-sale baby shoes never worn of jokes. Yeah, really good.
Okay, let's do it. What rule of culture is that? Two.

Speaker 1 My single, my single is dropping. Is dropping dropping is the for sale

Speaker 1 never worn

Speaker 1 of jokes. Of jokes.
It's a full story. It tells the story of beginning middle women.
It really does. My single, my single is dropping.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, I just had one.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Damn it. I hate this feeling.
What is this feeling? So sudden and new. I felt the moment.
I forgot why. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, you ready, Queena? Yep.
All right. This is going to be Bowen Yang's.
I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 I don't mean to kill these plants, and yet I do. I am trying to keep this snake plant alive.
No, sorry, not the snake plant. This, um, oh, I think it's an Indian dragon tree.

Speaker 1 I might be making that up. Hold on.
See, maybe this is the problem to begin begin with. I don't even know the names of these things.
And I am not going to.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. I'm not going to name these plants because

Speaker 1 it's so hard to say goodbye. And then I'm going to feel even more guilty for killing them.
It's a song of India.

Speaker 1 The leaves keep yellowing. I water it so diligently.
I am on a schedule, on an app, on Planta. I am, I am making sure these plants stay alive.
And for the most part, they are.

Speaker 1 But this song of India is really hard. And it's a huge, heavy pot.
And I'm pretty, I'm like 85% sure there's a hole in it for

Speaker 1 drainage, but I need some help. I need the plant doctor to come into my house.
If you take house calls, plant doctor, come on over. That's one minute.
I will say it looks pretty healthy to me.

Speaker 1 There's some yellowing. I don't know.
That has to be a pretty complicated guy to keep. It's pared down, but

Speaker 1 it's a little bare bones and I want it to be more lush and it's a little,

Speaker 1 anyway, it's seen better days. Yeah, I would say

Speaker 1 don't be too hard on yourself.

Speaker 1 You're doing doing the best that you can how many times do you water it i it's like once every eight days it doesn't need that much water and yet and it's in a good spot i mean it's right in the window right in the window it's fine i'll figure it out what about this one these are flowers that i get every week

Speaker 1 that i get every week out on the side of the plant that's flowers flowers okay learn the difference um well This has been an episode of Lost Cult that we'll remember.

Speaker 1 I think it was releasing the valve a little bit. I had to release the valve a little bit.
I've kind of been releasing the valve every day. And you have to.
Yeah, isn't that weird?

Speaker 1 Like, sometimes you just really are more emotional than other times. Like, I remember, like, a few months ago,

Speaker 1 I couldn't even think about creating tears.

Speaker 1 I'm like every day. I'm jealous of y'all.
Y'all motherfuckers who cry. I cry.
I love to cry. I'm that Pisces, Pisces, Cancer.
That's who I am. I'm a Scorpio down.

Speaker 1 The only wetness comes out of the other end. Holy fuck.
I drip, drip, drip on hardwood floors 10, 10, 10s across the board.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 we end every single episode with a song.

Speaker 1 I know I used to be crazy.

Speaker 1 I know I used to be fun.

Speaker 1 I know I used to be wild.

Speaker 1 That's because I you don't know the song. I know it.

Speaker 1 Bye.

Speaker 1 Lost Culturistas is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and NiHeart Radio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani.

Speaker 1 Produced by Becca Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Laborde.
And our music is by Henry Kabirski.

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"Good Walz" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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