"Elite Mara" (w/ Matt, Bowen & Friends)

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Speaker 1 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break. It literally happened to me yesterday.
I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes. Total reset.
Right?

Speaker 1 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke. It just hits.
It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know? Exactly.

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Speaker 1 Look, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, my. Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture? Yeah, goodness. Wow.
Las culturistas.

Speaker 1 Ding dong. Las culturistas calling.
And I guess the very first thing we want to do is

Speaker 1 cheers, sister. Cheers, sister.
Crack open to Heineken with us.

Speaker 1 We thought our Amsterdam era was over, and we want to say happy birthday, Jared. Happy birthday, Jared Frieder.
He's here. House is in the background.
House is in the background.

Speaker 1 Our friend Charlton is upstairs. Doing God knows what.
Doing God knows what. Let me take a sip of this.
Jared, is there anything you want to say to inspire everyone?

Speaker 1 Maybe someone else that has a birthday today. To all you readers out there with a birthday today, happy birthday.
And I hope you have a really good one. Oh, that's a beautiful message to send.

Speaker 1 He's really become a fan favorite. He really has.
I think his commentary on Camila Cabello and The Rise of Brat.

Speaker 1 was really, really scholarly. And it's third host vibes to me.
I have to say, I always revered him for his commentary on Camila Cabello first and foremost. Anyway, I thought like

Speaker 1 a sweet, fun, great commentary and discourse on Camila Cabello. I would say same about you.
Yes, Jared.

Speaker 1 And the last thing that I'll say is, don't you readers think that they should have Charlie back on as a retrospective to talk about how the Brat era actually turned out?

Speaker 1 Isn't that something we all want to hear?

Speaker 1 Busy, I think. Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 she's busy.

Speaker 1 Okay, we have a whole peanut gallery today. And guess what? This actually is a very special episode of Lost Cults.

Speaker 1 why because we're on vacation and it needs to be a little shorter and also because we are doing the olympics of i don't think so honey yes yes there will be five i don't think so honeys everyone has one they're gonna happen a little bit later but for now just get ready we're gonna we're gonna hear five different i don't think so honeys only one will win oh wow isn't it funny like fantastic five what do they call them the elite five i don't know i don't

Speaker 1 couldn't tell you right well today was women's team which we watched and we're gonna get it which Which we watched, but I think it was primarily the three girls, even though there was like Fox Force Five.

Speaker 1 Fox Fox Five. But what is that? That's Rinna.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That's right.
That's right. Fox Force Five.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Super groups. We were talking about super groups, like iconic fives.
Of course, there's the Spice Girls, Fox Force Five.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, they do call Fabulous Five. What do they call the gymnasts that are the five?

Speaker 1 Let's look it up. This is a family you know.
I know, but I don't. Women's gymnastics.
The thing when you know, know, but you don't. Fabulous five.
Oh, I'm not connected to Wi-Fi. No, what the hell?

Speaker 1 Fierce five?

Speaker 1 Fierce funny females?

Speaker 1 Gymnastics.

Speaker 1 Well, no, that was 2012.

Speaker 1 That was 12 years ago, sweetie. Five.
Gymnastics five.

Speaker 1 This is bad, you guys. Why don't you imagine there was final five? Yeah, okay, so there's only so many F words.
You know what I mean? And the best one is already fuck. That's so true.

Speaker 1 Especially Roller Culture number eight.

Speaker 1 There are only so many fancy words and the best one is already already fuck well let's say they're the fuck five let's say they're the fuck five and the fuck five just absolutely tore it up especially on the floor oh yeah let's talk about who do you want to talk about soony you want to talk about sunny was incredible soon was incredible i think soony really you know because you know our girl jordan yeah jordan child jordan child was fab did have a bit of a moment during the beam where she fell and there's a thing where you know if one person falls and that tends to make it so that other people on the team fall as well it creates what we call bad energy bad energy soony really turned it around and she had a perfect such a graceful beam um

Speaker 1 beam portion a graceful beam by far the way the like scariest event to watch i can't believe are you more scared i'm nervous watching the vault or the beam i'm more it's all pretty scary but i'm i think the scariest to me is uneven bars You feel the most fear watching them do that?

Speaker 1 The lower one is so low. Yeah, you're right.
And they got to really like fucking tuck in. You know, who was has a critical eye? Is that Lori Hernandez?

Speaker 1 Yes, because she was remember when Suni did her bars, yes, and her feet grazed the floor, and Lori was like, Her feet touched the ground.

Speaker 1 This will be a deduction, Lori's eye, she, her eye, her eye, wait, it's actually real coach number 12, Lori,

Speaker 1 her eye,

Speaker 1 she was giving kind of the really good, the most chemistry, right, girls, Lori thoughts, but we'll save that. Oh,

Speaker 1 I think there might be an I don't think so, honey, Lori, lori yeah just lori you know what i just just to preempt this like lori don't come for lori because lori

Speaker 1 what lori was doing was she was so endearingly like squealing while these like men around her were like what's going on yeah they were all like well now we're gonna see another gymnast meanwhile lori's like ah i'm so happy for like yeah she was giving by the way you watched the opening ceremony oh my god Kelly Clarkson

Speaker 1 commentary just every now and then like oh my god that's so cool wow I love that I love there's so many different kinds of music. I love this.
This is so cool.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well,

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, but sometimes all of the types and the personas converge into one or two people, such as Matt Rodgers and myself. And yet we weren't invited.
I know.

Speaker 1 Like, we have the expertise and the spirit and the enthusiasm. There was no moment during that opening ceremony where I thought.
Yeah, the people doing this are way better than us at this. No way.

Speaker 1 If you listen to Two Guys Five Rings, you know that no one knows sports better.

Speaker 1 No one enjoys talking about the events and the specificity of the athleticism more than us. I am really getting into the Olympics this year.
Well, that's probably good. And maybe I should heed that.

Speaker 1 Girl. And this is not a spot.
This is not sponsored. We were not paid to say this.
Peacock is really fucking nailing it.

Speaker 1 Multi-view on Peacock. You get to watch four screens and you get to like, one's on a commercial break, you go to the other one.
It's such great viewing experience.

Speaker 1 I got my life watching basketball, Greece versus Canada. Oh, sleigh.
All I've done so far is the gymnastics and the opening ceremony. It's fun.
It's fun. Women's Beach volleyball.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So fucking county because they're, they're in a sandpit in front of the Eiffel Tower. Yeah.
It's like it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 The visuals have been top-notch. Stunning.
Can we just get into the opening ceremony for a second?

Speaker 1 And listen, we will talk mostly about this on our other podcasts as well, but this is truly the culture of the moment.

Speaker 1 I don't think we can ignore what happened, which was that we on our podcast, Two Guys, Five Rings, literally predicted Lady Gaga's performance. Did I? Because I didn't remember doing that.

Speaker 1 I think it was you.

Speaker 1 I think you were the one who brought up Gaga and said, I mean, like, because the rumor was about the Celine rumor was persistent for a couple weeks, but I think the Gaga thing was, I think you introduced it.

Speaker 1 I think I thought of like the silliest thing I could think of and just said it out loud as I muffin want to do. And I guess it wasn't so silly, huh? What was that song she sang?

Speaker 1 La Boutin Fan Fan Fong?

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't. No, bitch.
Shut up, bitch.

Speaker 1 I thought it would have been kind of thrilling to watch her do it. La Vian Rose.

Speaker 1 Montrouque, Montruque with Ad Feathers. Montroux au blume.

Speaker 1 Well, of course. Montrouque au blum.

Speaker 1 French culture is the tops. Chaos and the tops.
His pronunciation. What about these? Oh, these Christians

Speaker 1 better leave us alone. Wait, what's happening with the Christians?

Speaker 1 The drowsy. About Nikki Dahl looking country.
It's Dionysus table. It's Dionysus.

Speaker 1 Grow up, read the Baccanali, and let's get serious. And throw a baccanal while you're at it.

Speaker 1 Well, let me tell you. Come here.
I'll tell you where we all are. By the way, we forgot to say this uptown, but we are in Provincetown.
We're gonna see you there.

Speaker 1 Wow, thank you for really. Anytime you add a harmony, it actually elevates the piece.
It's a culture number 30. Anytime you add a harmony, it actually elevates the piece.

Speaker 1 So, thank you, sister, for doing that. That was, of course, a callback to my famous jingle for Provincetown.
Of course, Patrick Charles had any other thoughts on Gaga? Yeah, Gaga thoughts.

Speaker 1 Well, it's just always great to see her. She looks fabulous.
Yes. And I'm so excited for Follett de Doux.
Follet de Dou. I think

Speaker 1 Follet de Doux has been getting some new trailers yes i'm hearing that it's a supporting performance she's changed the way she's singing yes right

Speaker 1 she's she's acting so so basically everyone the the news is the hot new news from gaga and we always love when gaga hits the press when she's got an acting project coming out is do not expect

Speaker 1 Lee, which is her character Harley Quinn. She's calling her Lee.
Call me Lee. Do not expect Lee to have a good voice like Lady Gaga.
Lady Gaga has come out and said, I'm known as Lady Gaga, right?

Speaker 1 Right. And I love her use of the word.

Speaker 1 So everyone knows me as Lady Gaga, right?

Speaker 1 It's my stage name. It's her, Christina Aguilera.
Ha ha. Yeah, it is.
Right. Ha ha.

Speaker 1 By the way, you know what Kamala does, which I've noticed? Listen. Listen.
She goes, listen, Kama. La.
La. And that is how you say it, Republicans.

Speaker 1 But anyway, yeah, so Lady Gaga says, don't expect to hear a trained singer because Lee is not that. So how would she know how to breathe correctly? Right.
Which is a question I can't answer.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know about Lee's sing training.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes. And I'm excited to learn.
I want to find out so bad. I want to find out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you mean in terms of the...

Speaker 1 Why would Lee know how to sing? It's like, just sing. It's kind of that thing of like, oh, well, Sally Bulls is supposed to be bad.
It's like, no,

Speaker 1 that's how you like justify casting someone who can't really sing because they're a star. By the way, I just saw Cabaret last night.
Oh, how did you get it? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It was Marty, aka, as you might know her, Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. Yes, yes, yes.
He's going up Mondays. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fantastic. I am so excited.
In fact, I was DMing with Marsha Marsha Marsha. Oh, my God.
And what the hell is that?

Speaker 1 They gave me the dates for that they're doing because I would rather, I mean, this is not straight. I just want to say that.
We love Eddie, but Marsha, Marty as MC is wowie zowie.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to see it. I saw it in the West End with Jake Shears.
It was good. Oh, Jake.
I mean, these are some of our great queers.

Speaker 1 These are some of of our great gays our great gays musically talented great gays and gail rankin

Speaker 1 wowie zowie yeah is wowie zowie something that's coming that's rising i'm using it i i don't i don't care what y'all have to say i'm gay rankin stanning okay

Speaker 1 bit about you and i'm still about you

Speaker 1 no higher compliment gail rankin um is there a little friend gillespie code it was i was i was watching him going really something frankly about this frankly a new york comedy legend this is a high praise.

Speaker 1 High praise. One of my favorite people.
And if you don't know, now you know. Now you know.
I'm so happy you saw it in Android.

Speaker 1 Did they do this sort of thing in the West End with the Cabaret? What they did was it was like you, it was at the literal kitchen. It was at the kitchen.
So it was like very, it was like immersive.

Speaker 1 It was immersed there. There's three levels.
You go downstairs. They put a sticker refund.
It felt very burger. I was like, oh, it feels like we're in Berlin.
Oh, wait. Yeah, that's right.
Sort of

Speaker 1 the whole vibe. And it was lovely.

Speaker 1 So great. BB New Earth.
Oh, my God. I forgot that BB was BB.

Speaker 1 BB was the was the Schneider? Yeah, Freudline Schneider. Freudline Schneider.
Schneider. So good.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Bibby Newer.

Speaker 1 Cheers, legend. I think Freudline is actually one of the most interesting roles.
It's a great role. It has great songs.

Speaker 1 It's such a shame it's not in the film because to me, that's like the emotional piece of the music. Yes, the film is so different.
The film is so different.

Speaker 1 I remember I saw the film in college and I was like, oh, cool. And then I saw the...

Speaker 1 the musical years later like Sudie and I went to see the Alan Cumming Michelle Williams one And the stage version is just so much more explicit about how dark it is and really about how it is, quite frankly, about the rise of the Nazis.

Speaker 1 Okay, and it has to be said. The Weimar.
Oh, the Weimar.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no,

Speaker 1 the film isn't as like.

Speaker 1 Also, let's just say, Alan Cumming. Yeah.
That performance, I mean,

Speaker 1 for me. Alan, what's eight times one?

Speaker 1 What's what? What's eight times one? Hold on.

Speaker 1 Eight.

Speaker 1 Good.

Speaker 1 Now we got off track. Okay, so gaga.

Speaker 1 Now, folia due. You know what? There's going to be so much foliage due to come.
Let's give respect to the real moment of the opening ceremonies.

Speaker 1 You're talking about that challengers coded moment where those three people kind of were at the library and then went to go fuck in the room. No, I know.
I know that's not what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 imagine I was.

Speaker 1 Why are people more upset about that?

Speaker 1 Not that there's anything to be upset about, but it's like, okay, well, then you have to like study the whole text and be like, well, there's two guys trying to fuck. Like, it's like, grow up.

Speaker 1 Oh, Bowen, the Royal They, the Royal Vey is going to be upset about something. I want them to scan.
Can you just at least scan before you come? Scan before you come.

Speaker 1 In the words of Kamala, in a time when we didn't like her, do not come. Do not come.

Speaker 1 Do not come. Well, let's not bring that up.
You're right. Oh, my God.
Am I derailing everything? Sorry, Kamala. Now we got to talk about the border.
By the way, Provincetown is so.

Speaker 1 The voters here, it's a slam dunk for Kamala. Provincetown, Massachusetts is breaking hard for Kamala Harris.
Just here. No, no, trust me when I say this, this town's going blue.

Speaker 1 It's actually reloculture number 98.

Speaker 1 Trust me when I say this, Provincetown is going blue.

Speaker 1 I mean, the merch, they popped out in three hours. Literally.

Speaker 1 Every shop. Florida's stealing watercolor portraits of Kamala in this one.
Sure. The like lesbian store we went to.

Speaker 1 Bowen, we are definitely strolling down the streets to that store. And you have to see all the stuff.
We bought Jared a Kamala shirt for his birthday. Well, the gays love her.

Speaker 1 She rushed to the courthouse to marry these folks in California. She's been there.
Her campaign manager was Harvey Milk. Yeah, I think her crazy.
I know. I know about that.
Her first campaign manager

Speaker 1 was Harvey Milk's. And that man actually passed away of AIDS.
Yeah. But yeah, no, and she's from San Francisco.
I mean, like, or worked in San Francisco. Like, she's connected.
She's gay. She's gay.

Speaker 1 Her laugh is gay. Can I say, stop teasing Kamala because of the laugh? I like what I'm saying.
The laugh is iconic. The laugh is iconic.
Oh my God. The laugh is so fun.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 I was going to bring up Celine Dion. Of course you were.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about Celine. How did you feel? What was going through your mind? Well, I was on a plane back from my life.
So I was,

Speaker 1 my leg has never been more restless.

Speaker 1 I was like, I need to see. And this is.
Are you not getting live TV on the plane? Another. I don't think so.
Honey Delta. First of all, still waiting on my 360 membership.
My invite.

Speaker 1 i i shouldn't be so entitled well are you do you feel entitled because you have the miles to have to no well because the miles are five million which is crazy you quite you automatically get an invitation if you get hit five million oh that's crazy i wonder why i was invited because you slay 360.

Speaker 1 wanna in the mirror do you look at you see now

Speaker 1 Delta did not, this is, this is one thing that I'll give JetBlue. They've got live TV.

Speaker 1 Give TV.

Speaker 1 And for a moment like this for celine dion's return to singing

Speaker 1 i would have loved that but alas alack but

Speaker 1 first thing i did when i got off the plane when i de-planed was pull up that yeah that video and my watching that watching that i

Speaker 1 i've never been more emotional the last time it was this emotional was well the last time it was this emotional was was her videos announcing that she had sps I mean, honestly, it was one of those things where I think in our group chat, Louis Furtelle was like, it felt like the Lou Gehrig, I'm the luckiest man in the face of the earth moment, like, but like, with that element of performance that obviously that moment couldn't have.

Speaker 1 On the Eiffel Tower.

Speaker 1 It just truly stunning, especially when you look at those photos that they're digging up now of her, like, being photographed as a young girl in front of the Eiffel Tower, her dream having always been to sing there.

Speaker 1 You know, her saying recently in that documentary that her life's work is singing. It is her purpose.
And she's when she said, I will sing again. And just to see her, I was streaming it live.

Speaker 1 I woke up at like 10 in the morning. It was a long opening ceremony.

Speaker 1 She was long. So

Speaker 1 I was going to say, I don't know about this. I'm not sure about the canal situation.

Speaker 1 I like a stadium. Sue me.
Sue me. I like a stadium.

Speaker 1 They're probably getting cold.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Torrential rains. Yeah, that was, it was not ideal.
Like, also, the French, the locals fucking hated it because they couldn't get to the other side.

Speaker 1 I have so many concerns about how they're going to logistic i don't know how it is logistically feasible to have the olympics in 2028 in los angeles california y'all better scurry oh there's no way i'm around because it's like a tuesday at one and it's not tenable on the 101 sometimes i'm like what the is going on how the hell are we gonna invite the world here

Speaker 1 how don't know it doesn't make any sense but yeah so apparently francis pissed off but again back to celine just watching her

Speaker 1 not even just get through it which i was i I was worried that about her getting through it.

Speaker 1 I was also nervous that they had announced it prior because I'm like, think about the stress that must be put on that.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you performing anywhere in public for her right now, it would be difficult, let alone the most public performance probably in the world. Her career, probably.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 But not only that, she was amazing.

Speaker 1 Sounded like Celine. Sounded like Celine.
gestured like Celine. Oh, yeah.
It just felt so familiar. Did you watch the documentary?

Speaker 1 Well, you told me, you were the first person to tell me how rough it was, how rough and sad it was. I was like, I can't handle it.
One of the hardest experiences. I'm not getting anywhere near that.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, Celine, like, in the culture, that's like mom, like, sweet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No one wants to watch her go through all that. Yeah, international idea.

Speaker 1 Growing up in Quebec, it's like she is God. Like, that's why, like, her watching the video of her announcing SPS, I was just like,

Speaker 1 I'm not a crier. I burst into tears.
I was like, no, no, I can't handle this. Yeah.
If I can't run, I'll walk. If I can't walk, I'll crawl.
I need

Speaker 1 to draw. And also, you know, just like how strong she's had to be, like, with the, you know, loss of her husband, et cetera, just, you know,

Speaker 1 the amount of pressure that it takes to be that kind of person for as long as she's been that kind of person. Like, she's a full-blown international icon in industry.

Speaker 1 Maybe one of the last ones where it's like actually possible to be that famous and that respected and that beloved in that way. Like, just, so that was fucking triumphant.
Triumphant is

Speaker 1 putting it mildly in the words of Mandy Moore. Of Mandy Moore, of fake Mandy Moore.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Of the Mandy Moore imposter. Of the perfect blue Mandy Moore.

Speaker 1 Just like when there was that break in the music and she was like swelling with pride and like hope and like, I don't know if it was joy or what, whatever she was experiencing was so.

Speaker 1 That's what the Olympics are all about. Say that.
It is the human spirit coming to a groundswell. Yeah.
It gathering in one place, the best of the world,

Speaker 1 everyone celebrating each other's ability.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I love the Olympics.
I always love the world. You are amazing.
You are amazing. You are so amazing.
You are incredible. The way that you speak is so beautiful.
You are amazing.

Speaker 1 Queen, I learned from the best, and they're right here in front of me.

Speaker 1 I'm inspired by y'all every day.

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Speaker 1 Now, what else is going on in the words of Cynthia Bailey?

Speaker 1 Our favorite Celine song is Imperfections. Oh, Imperfections.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 If you know anything, you know that Celine Dion's top song on streaming, I think, is of course Imperfections.

Speaker 1 The last album. Courage.
It's one of the I got my own imperfections.

Speaker 1 It's so funny. It's actually nominated for Record of the Year next year at the Culture Awards.
It's too early to announce. This is just a rumor.
It's actually a rumor. This is just a rumor.

Speaker 1 No, no, I actually, I actually know. Oh, but because, oh, but this is making up for this huge snub that it was never sung in Titanique.
I'm just saying, like, it's been snubbed.

Speaker 1 I'm literally getting breaking news. Like, I'm being told by the voters that it's already nominated for record of the year next year with the last Gladristas Culture Awards.
The voters?

Speaker 1 The voters are texting. Oh, you know, it's too long a story to get into.

Speaker 1 Imperfection is going to open the show.

Speaker 1 That's not an opener, I would say.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's one with Josh and Aaron. We'll talk.
That's really good. I'm partial to, and this is in Titanique.
Thank God. Thank God.
I got this right. But

Speaker 1 it's underrated is taking chances. Oh,

Speaker 1 don't even talk to me about your channel. Don't know much about your life.

Speaker 1 Don't know much about your world.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 yes, a really good glee cover. Liam Michelle.
Say that. Liam Michelle.
Also, can we talk about another great glee cover? Is Lee Michelle doing Rihanna episode, what is it? Oh, take a bow. Take a bow.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 First of all, don't talk to me about Leah Michelle's talent. Leah Michelle, that's a talented young girl.
It's actually a little coacher number 40. Leah Michelle, that's a talented young girl.

Speaker 1 I understand. People have their thoughts and their feelings.
If we're going to talk about glee covers. Remember,

Speaker 1 I guess. And that first mashup episode where the girls did Walking on Sunshine into Halo.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love that. And then what did they drink like a cold brew or something?

Speaker 1 What did they have?

Speaker 1 The bit of the episode, what was it? They drank like a drink.

Speaker 1 That is Brian Murphy-coated as fast.

Speaker 1 That's how they broke that episode of comedic television. The girls drink energy drinks and sing a Halo.
I miss comedic breaks. I miss episodic TV.

Speaker 1 People are comparing Kamala to Lee Michelle right now. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 They're saying

Speaker 1 it's like, oh my God,

Speaker 1 Biden was Beanie. Biden is Beanie and Kamala is Lee Michelle.
Are you serious? Is this what gay Twitter is talking about right now? Well,

Speaker 1 Beanie's approval rating was actually 26%

Speaker 1 nationally.

Speaker 1 Beanie was not going to win Michigan. Bean Michelle came on this bitch mad as hell.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Yeah, she came in and she saved the country with that.
You know, Bon and I were there the second night. The second night.
We went to go see Funny Girl.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't for Leah's second night of Funny Girl.

Speaker 1 I actually, I bought a ticket to, my mother, like, and my aunt, obsessed with Funny Girl growing up, and I bought a ticket to see Beanie, and Beanie had called out, which I guess she was doing quite a bit at that time because it was, I think it was hard.

Speaker 1 It was tough. But then I was like, I wish I had waited because when we saw Leah Michelle, she fucking tore

Speaker 1 it up. And I mean, I'm telling you, and I'm not just talking about that.
I am talking about take a bow. I am talking about taking chances.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Taking chances in the pilot of glee.
Yes. Okay.
Yes. It's in the pilot? Yes.
It's when Leah Michelle walks up to the sign and she's. Yes, you're right.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That's a great pilot.

Speaker 1 No, if one, that one thing you must give

Speaker 1 Ryan has good pilots, executes a pilot

Speaker 1 the only way you should, which is to perfection. And Jane Lynch, what a star.

Speaker 1 What a great turn.

Speaker 1 Also in Funny Girl. Also in Funny Girl.

Speaker 1 But Brett scurried as soon as Leah was coming. Well, now you hear what she says.
She says she wishes she had stayed in the show. Oh, I said Tova Feldtra would like a word.

Speaker 1 Let Tova cook. It's actually real culture number 80.

Speaker 1 Tova Feld would like a word and hey let Tova

Speaker 1 season four of Walking Dead miss Tova stepped onto set oh everybody know who's mayor okay oh everybody know who's Rachel Bloom's mother and crazy ex-girlfriend Tova really books

Speaker 1 she should get Tova books she has no problem working no Tova has no problem working that's a rule of culture that's rule of culture number 47 Tova has no problem working I did I did not know that

Speaker 1 no i i tried to tell you

Speaker 1 can i say it's this it's the most disgusting twisted show i've ever are you watching fallout have you seen fallout every episode i just i i'm on the the second to last episode i'm obsessed with fallout it's incredible multiple emmy nominations by the way well yes i was like girls clocked at early it's i just i can see it in the future bowen's going up to ella purnell and they're having a moment at the emmys and guys i know you block in oh she's she's pretty and Slayton yellow jacket.

Speaker 1 And she's a stunning girl. She's a star.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 1 What's Belgravia?

Speaker 1 Amazon girl. This was famously reviewed viciously in The Guardian.
The review begins like clicked, clacked,

Speaker 1 it's Julian Fellowship. Julian Fellows kind of typing.
Oh, no, this was

Speaker 1 the most savage line of any review in history is the first line of

Speaker 1 well Julian Fellows has been typing again. It was so savage.
I laughed for an hour. That's Jiminy Glick level.
That is Jiminy Glick. Oh, someone's that guy.
Someone's got a writer.

Speaker 1 Oh, someone's been. No, no, no.
Oh, someone's been writing.

Speaker 1 This is a Jiminy house. Oh, period.
We might have Jiminy might have.

Speaker 1 We might need a Jiminy night. Yeah, we might need Jiminy night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we love Jiminy so much.

Speaker 1 Martin Short, the heterosexual that you are. Oh, yeah.
He's one of our best.

Speaker 1 It's true. He's incredible.

Speaker 1 If every man was like a gay, straight, whatever was like Martin Short,

Speaker 1 there would be no war. Yeah.
It would be funny ass Canadians down. I have a feeling he's voting blue.
I have a feeling he's in the... I think he's voting blue.
I think he's K-Hive.

Speaker 1 I think he's just, he's almost as K-hive as these Provincetown folks. And I'm telling you, these Provincetown folks are really in the can for Kamala.
I know he has a t-shirt silk screen. The wave is

Speaker 1 very close lately. Oh,

Speaker 1 someone's trying to dig for some tea. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yes, the rumor is that.

Speaker 1 No, we can't. Well, we can't speculate and gossip on lost coach anymore.
My, how the times have changed. Remember when they used to say whatever the fuck they wanted? Now, now the press

Speaker 1 is. Oh, speaking of which,

Speaker 1 there's someone at EW fucking whole. No, Bowen, don't do this.
No, no, I don't care. Who's listening to this podcast, mining every little thing I have to say about SNL?

Speaker 1 I really fucking hate what they do over there with me. Stop it.
Stop it.

Speaker 1 I pulled, no, I pulled out of a round table because I was like, no, you're not getting me. Don't fucking take my words out of context when I talk about my job.

Speaker 1 You did take them out of context, you've got to do it. They absolutely did.
And then guess what? EW, like there's pickup there. Like people fucking like turn out all this.

Speaker 1 And then fucking, and the next thing you know, Ben Shapiro is sharing my quotes on his Facebook. And now all these fucking MAGA fucking assholes are like commenting on my shit forever.

Speaker 1 I'm like, and I'm sorry, I hate MAGA.

Speaker 1 I really

Speaker 1 don't like this Cheeto. I don't like that

Speaker 1 Cheeto. That Cheeto in office.

Speaker 1 What ruler coacher was that? Seven. Rulal Coach number seven.
I hate that MAGA. And I don't like that Cheeto.
And I don't want him back in office at all. And you know what? Quote me, EW, okay?

Speaker 1 I said it with my chest. I don't like that Cheeto at all.
Like Taylor says, do not come for my job. Speaking of

Speaker 1 conservative

Speaker 1 voices, did you notice that Megan Kelly went back to her Fox News hair?

Speaker 1 I feel I'm not been keeping up. Okay, so have you been tracking the hair?

Speaker 1 First of all, I'm not remembering.

Speaker 1 First of all,

Speaker 1 I'm the only one keeping up. I remember one of House and I's big arguments is whether the movie Bombshell is good.
Because he's, he's never saw it. But you never saw Bombshells.

Speaker 1 You love Nicole so much. Nicole went through hell for that film.
She's wearing a 20-pound wig.

Speaker 1 She's on a bike the entire film.

Speaker 1 They have her on a bike. And they're all having to deal with.
Nicole went through hell for that film.

Speaker 1 I mean, those,

Speaker 1 it was basically like the Madonna boot camp. It was Madonna boot camp.
And the only thing I will say is, you know, like, whatever, whatever. But they ate.
The girls ate. Okay.
Take that away from me.

Speaker 1 Margo was good. I'm neutral.
Margo was good.

Speaker 1 You know what? I think Bombshell is

Speaker 1 an interesting watch. I didn't think it was a bad movie.
I thought it was surprising that it got Oscar traction. It was not bad at all to make a movie about that place.
Is that Jay Roach?

Speaker 1 I don't remember

Speaker 1 James Cameron. I don't know.
It was James Cameron. We needed his eye on this situation.

Speaker 1 It's the seed bearer. It's Jay Roach.
It is Jay Roach. It's Jay Roach.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was all right. But anyway,

Speaker 1 no, I've been watching a lot. Megan Kelly.
I haven't been watching almost any Megan Kelly because I know what was it that I saw? Oh, this is what I wanted to say.

Speaker 1 Because Mayor Pete, which I'll still call him, has been on Fox News a lot. He's been all over the place.
He's rushing it. And can I say something to the people at Fox News?

Speaker 1 And you're not listening, but I just want to throw this out there. The thing is, like, every time you invite him on there, you truly play yourself because you guys look so dumb.

Speaker 1 And also, you have to understand, whoever's in hmu at fox news is beating his face to hell that man's skin on fox news is nuts and his hair has never looked better he's like all he looks like he's looking like a stud i think he brings his own hmu you think that mayor pete has his own hmu i think if you're in the cabinet you got hmu honey let me tell you i think chasten knows a few things around the makeup counter and he's taking hair care of his husband i'm just saying like when you when you go on a thing like the Today Show or whatever like you you usually don't bring your own grooming I bring my own.

Speaker 1 Okay, did I bring did Jessica come with me? Yes, Jessica came with you to today's show to beat me for have you heard Rocket Beller Rochefell said? I remember Jessica.

Speaker 1 The skin is really skinning. I don't know what

Speaker 1 the skin is, but it's looking retinol. It's red.

Speaker 1 And actually

Speaker 1 Jolly. He's looking more ready for camera.
And it's because those Fox News girls keep bringing them on because I guess they have a...

Speaker 1 they're edgelords they literally have like a fetish of being humiliated because the girl is beating them down yeah you could actually see in the this one last interview he did the woman was interviewing him like drag and drop fox news blonde host and he was like running train on her and you could see in her eyes a little bit that she was

Speaker 1 she was element she was turned on by it i think they do like it oh god that's what i'm saying it's like and i think like it must be getting through to some people because he's constantly there i i wonder if people call in and they're like oh that mayor pete oh he he really annoys us but like they love it drives up viewership or something i don't know i need to know if he brings his own grooming i think he probably does really i think he was on daily show and i think he like had him had the same beat

Speaker 1 we cannot talk about mayor pete's makeup i mean i think we are and i actually think this is the only podcast that will talk about mayor pete's grooming okay and i mean the making as an hmu not grooming like our favorite activity.

Speaker 1 It's so funny.

Speaker 1 I think we should have that conversation. We should have that conversation.
We're in pee time right now. It's family week, which is a huge LOL.
Groom, groom. Bitches say you can't catch me.

Speaker 1 Groom, groom. Grooming all these children.
And now EW is coming for us on that one. Hey, EW, we have your number.
Entertainment Weekly.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. On Yang admits grooming proclivities on Los Cladristas.
The SNL star newly minted three-time Emmy Emmy nominee.

Speaker 1 Or actually get it right. Stop.

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Smart use of your time. True.

Speaker 1 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time. That's just brilliant time management.
Very true. This gives me an idea.
Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 1 First, cruise dining. Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants? Curated dining.
Next. Okay, good choice.
That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 1 Second question. Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean? Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 1 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going. Virgin Voyages is amazing.
Yeah, absolutely. The cruises are kid-free.
From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

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Speaker 1 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini. And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.
Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia, and Caraçao.
But it's not all go, go, go.

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Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

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Speaker 1 Anyway, you know what? I'm also loving. What are you loving? I'm like getting on reservation dogs finally.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I heard it's good.
Oh my gosh. It's the show.

Speaker 1 It just did really well on the show.

Speaker 1 Last season, but they just gotten on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Fabulous.

Speaker 1 Incredible. I'm one of those stupid.
I'm like, for some reason, I'm like waking up to FX on Hulu. Can they make a bad show? I don't think so.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm, first of all, I want to tell you something. There was was no bigger fan of Hulu's a teacher than me, Matt Rogers.
Thank you. Thank you, girl.

Speaker 1 A teacher, more like a show. That is the elite Mara.
Yeah, Elite Mara. Say it.

Speaker 1 Say it louder.

Speaker 1 It might be a ruler of culture.

Speaker 1 Although you don't think that's true. No,

Speaker 1 I'm just like, I'm really... I'm clutching my pearls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I was saying. Oh, the house was being sounded.
Why are we all like ganging up on Rooney Rooney all of a sudden? No one was ganging up.

Speaker 1 No one was ganging up. And here's the thing.
It's not a gang up on Rooney just to give Kate Mara one single flower. And the people don't give her one single flower.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 It was a gang up because Charlton was saying she's the y'all were saying she was the elite Mara. And so that's a gang up on my girl.
It's not a gang up on.

Speaker 1 It's first of all, people might listen to this podcast and be like, Bowen Yang is the elite talent. They might,

Speaker 1 no one is saying that. It's not a gang up on me.
No one is saying that, by the way. That's the, they're all saying that.

Speaker 1 For us to like totally like

Speaker 1 fucking blow past Rooney, it's like she gave you the social network and Girl with the Dragon tattoo, and then she was in Carol. Like the, she can do it all.

Speaker 1 She was also in her, her erasure, and it happens way more than anyone knows. It's happening in small towns across America.
They're erasing the movie and her. Rooney and her?

Speaker 1 You see, you didn't even remember that she was in it. She plays Joaquin's ex.
Oh, yeah, I know, I remember. I saw the movie twice.
I loved her. I loved her.
Girl with the dragon tattoo.

Speaker 1 And I think I saw that twice too. Carol flung out of space.
Carol.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say two words again.

Speaker 1 A teacher. A teacher.
May Magdalene. That Jesus movie.
Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 1 No, Kate Mara can give you everything. First of all, two words.
A teacher, but here's another two words. Broke Back Mountain, bitch.

Speaker 1 And people forget about the supporting women in Broke Back Mountain. They don't forget about Michelle Williams.
She gets spoken about in that movie.

Speaker 1 Ann Hathaway was just as good as Michelle Williams in that movie. Linda Cardellini, listen to me right now,

Speaker 1 kills it in Brokeback Mountain. And Kate Marrot, in that last scene with you, with Heath Ledger, after she leaves and she says she's getting married, and he's like, I'm burning.

Speaker 1 And then she leaves.

Speaker 1 And he goes to his closet and pulls out Jack Twist's old shirt and says, Jack, I swear, you

Speaker 1 know, we love both Maras equally in this house. I just have to

Speaker 1 say, I love TV and I love movies. They're different.

Speaker 1 Period. I love cake, I love pie.
They're ruling different kingdoms, clearly. Clearly.

Speaker 1 Charlton's like over there just loving cake.

Speaker 1 Three words. Cake Boy.

Speaker 1 Under the bridge. Oh, yeah.
I got to get into that one.

Speaker 1 Four words. The girl from Plainville.

Speaker 1 I was worried there about Playtonville.

Speaker 1 And is that the elite fanning? Yes, yeah. Wait, you're saying L is the elite fanning? Yes.
Yes. Right now.

Speaker 1 Super eight back in the day. Well, that was the big breakout.
L stepped onto the scene and said, sorry. I mean, L Fanning and the Beguiles.

Speaker 1 I do love Dakota and L equally. Okay, interesting.
It's different than Kate, who I love better than Brittany. First of all, they stuck Dakota on that goddamn spooky show.

Speaker 1 What was that show Miss Dakota was on?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, and then, like, I think she was on

Speaker 1 there's a scary show with Josh Hartnett. Remember how play Dakota was? Penny Dreadful.
Penny Dreadful.

Speaker 1 I don't even think of the alienists. I think you have the alienist.

Speaker 1 Can we talk for a second about Dakota in War of the Worlds? We can.

Speaker 1 She was amazing. She was incredible.

Speaker 1 She was the child actor for Arby.

Speaker 1 She's a Screen Actress Guild nominee as an individual for I Am Sam. No one talks about it.
No one talks about it.

Speaker 1 I think Dakota is is going to be a huge nominations leader next year at Culture Awards. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 You know what I haven't watched yet, and I do feel badly about this, but I need to watch it is Ripley. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I have to just sit down and clean it and knock it out because I heard it's spectacular. Oh, me too.
And we love Andy.

Speaker 1 We love Andy. I'm sure he.
Do you think he ever goes by Andy, Andrew Scott? All the time, every day. You guys think?

Speaker 1 I think I would have to call him Andrew. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It's like Provincetown is rubbing off on these gay guys all around us.

Speaker 1 Ripley shot beautifully.

Speaker 1 Have you watched it yet? Yes.

Speaker 1 You think it's stunning? Totally different take because I have to say, like, for me, the talented Mr. Ripley is like a top 10.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, what we've done. And Gwyneth is so iconic.

Speaker 1 I'm sure. I know you killed him.

Speaker 1 It's incredible. And I think it's Matt Damon's best role.
So

Speaker 1 Jude Law's perfect. Prettiest human male has looked on ever.
Yeah. But this is a totally different take.
It's very dark. And Ripley is not as innocent in this.
He is sure.

Speaker 1 Machiavellian, like dark, dark. And Andrew's, of course,

Speaker 1 he's a total star. But the way it's shot, it's giving Francis Ha.
It's giving. Yes, it's very Francis Ha.

Speaker 1 Surprising to the darker. Yes, because Francis Ha is a very light movie.
A very light film.

Speaker 1 Greta is everywhere you look. I have to see Frances Hall, actually.
I've never seen it. It's fun.
It's great. Yeah.
But you know what? A lot of driver's really good in it.

Speaker 1 Mistress America.

Speaker 1 I think Mistress is the superior film. I went to see Mistress America by myself one Thanksgiving at the mine in Colorado.
I was like, I guess I'm seeing this fucking gay ass movie.

Speaker 1 You know what I guess I'm seeing Lola Kirk? Lola Kirk.

Speaker 1 Is she the elite Kirk? Wait,

Speaker 1 no, Lola Kirk is not the elite Kirk.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about this.

Speaker 1 She sat it down.

Speaker 1 what she did what i did karaoke with lola kirk at macari park oh we had also done karaoke yes she shut it down is it hard to shut macaron down no but she did do that that's something we have to now jared just walked back in from the gym brag and you have to break a tie who is the elite mara come say it mara sister the mara sister who is the elite mara sister Rooney.

Speaker 1 Betrayal, betrayal. He hasn't seen a teacher.
Which, by the way, I'm not saying Rooney is the elite Mara. I'm saying you guys cannot fucking steamroll Rooney like that by saying Kate is.

Speaker 1 And just to go back to Lola Kirk real quick, she has a band and is a singer, and I saw her at the German pavilion Gottscheer Hall in Ridgewood, and she tore. Okay.
Speaking of the words.

Speaker 1 Good singer, did you see Sabrina Carpenter's fragrance ad?

Speaker 1 Cherry. Cherry Baby.
Cherry Baby.

Speaker 1 She walks over to a cherry, puts the stem in her mouth, takes it out, and it's a little heart shape, and she winks at the camera, and then it says, Cherry Baby, the new fragrance from Sabrina carpenter and i said if you don't smell like cherry baby this fall i'm not talking to you

Speaker 1 we certainly aren't going on a second date if you haven't spritz cherry baby on your on your little cherry babies on your ball sack yeah they're not going in my mouth yeah no listen here's what i'll say take that e-douglas this is what i'm gonna pitch I know Sabrina is probably going to be the one doing the ads for Cherry Baby the fragrance.

Speaker 1 Bone and I would love to help. We would love to be involved in Cherry Baby ads.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you guys want us to come just do a quick cameo and any Cherry Baby ads, like we would love to do that and really sabrina any way you want to collaborate with us not not know though like recently matt and i have turned down some opportunities with with some girlies with perfume agency with perfume agency exactly

Speaker 1 Two questions. What are you doing right now? And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise? Well, obviously you're listening to us.
Smart use of your time. True.

Speaker 1 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time. That's just brilliant time management.
Very Very true. This gives me an idea.
Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 1 First, cruise dining. Do you prefer buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants? Curated dining.
Next. Okay, good choice.
That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 1 Second question. Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean? Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 1 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going. Virgin Voyages is amazing.
Yeah, absolutely. The cruises are kid-free.
From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 1 Nothing against kids. Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.
And there's so much included value, over $1,000. Right.
Over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 1 Wi-Fi soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes. No hidden fees, no surprise charges.
Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 1 And you know what? I deserve luxury. You do, and me too.
Yes, there's always something happening on board.

Speaker 1 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more. Boredom doesn't board the ship.
And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 1 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic. Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bimini.

Speaker 1 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026. Yeah, like Aruba, St.
Lucia, and Curacao. But it's not all go, go, go.
Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too. Your cabin is a full-on sanctuary.

Speaker 1 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing. Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, the Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 1 Brilliant name, by the way. She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.
Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor. That's virginvoyages.com.

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Speaker 1 Well, listen, we've had a spirited conversation about so many things in culture, and now it's time for the I Don't Think So Honey Olympics.

Speaker 1 This is going to be just like the regular segment, except we have three incredible people here who are going to all give their thoughts in the form of an I Don't Think So Honey, which was our one-minute segment where we ran to get something in culture that we just don't like so much.

Speaker 1 But first,

Speaker 1 But first, what?

Speaker 1 No, but first, we'll do it. We'll go.
Right? I love

Speaker 1 first coffee. Bring it back.
Bring it back. I think it's so funny.
Do you think Provincetown's going blue in the election?

Speaker 1 You know what? Let me think about it. Yes.
Yeah. Okay.
Oh, we have to take you to that lesbian store too. You're going to be in heaven.
One of the lesbian store. All right.

Speaker 1 So this is Adam Think So, Honey, and I do have something. You want to time me? Okay, yeah.
This is Matt Rogers. Adam ThinkSony's time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 It is a huge issue in the gay community when they give you your prep and it's in in the the pack the cotton ball oh no no no it's in this thing what would you call that it's like a pamphlet it's like a booklet of prep and not a little pill bottle look go jared go get it this is literally how they give out your your prep now it's like how the hell am i supposed to travel with this what is wrong model after birth control it's modeled after birth control which by the way that's inconvenient as hell now that is not the right equivalent this is ridiculous i i first of all i'm a i'm a gay on the go i gotta get places this is impossible to pack it's bigger than a dog,

Speaker 1 this is crazy. First of all, why wouldn't you put pills in pill bottles? I know I'm talking to my sisters now when I say this.
There is nothing

Speaker 1 better about this

Speaker 1 than the way it was. We need to go back to before, and I'm talking about everything in this country.
The discourse is toxic. We need to go back to the way we used to speak to each other.

Speaker 1 Old town values. We need prep in pill bottles.
And that's

Speaker 1 old town values. Prep in pill bottles.

Speaker 1 I miss the old days where I got my prep and pill bottles. Well, okay.
I'm

Speaker 1 coming right up. So

Speaker 1 put the clock on it. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's coming right up. This is Boen Yang's.
I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey. The prep pill bottles because I'm still on that stuff.

Speaker 1 And why they got to put a cotton ball in there? Yeah, every time I'm opening my new prep bottle, I got to

Speaker 1 make my fingers a tweezer and pinch a little cotton ball out.

Speaker 1 What? So it doesn't clack, clack, clack in my dog kit. I don't give a fuck.
I want people to know that I'm fucking and sucking. Okay.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I'll take two if I if

Speaker 1 I forgot

Speaker 1 if I got an extra breeding. If you breed someone who looks a little dangerous, you got a top two.
Part two of my optics, so honey.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, honey, these overeater tops up there who, yeah, I get it. My hole is amazing.
If I say, maybe not tonight, don't don't try to keep jockeying in there. 15 seconds.

Speaker 1 I go, I was literally about to stop this guy this week and be like, I was going to say the word, are you ready for this? Dude, in the middle of sex.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine someone saying that or you saying that to anyone? The word, I can imagine

Speaker 1 five seconds.

Speaker 1 It's not going to happen tonight. No, I get out of there.
And that is kind of your toe in the line. That's one minute.
Here's what I'll say. You're in the right town.
There's a lot of top shit.

Speaker 1 Sure, but

Speaker 1 they better listen. They take no for an answer.
They take no for an answer. They better, because otherwise we might be getting in.
You You might have a fucking problem with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't want a problem with Bo and Yang in Pete Town.

Speaker 1 You do not want to.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 also, we forgot to just mention the cotton. That can't be good for the environment.
No,

Speaker 1 there's poor land. What is the thing with the cotton in any

Speaker 1 bottle of medication? I ask you, my pre-I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I forgot. But what doesn't

Speaker 1 cotton is from a flower and not an animal?

Speaker 1 The Lamelly is coming for me. The Lamelly has officially ate your ass, girl.
Chewed your ass out, rather. Why is there those little cotton zen pills? Why is that?

Speaker 1 I think to prevent the pills from breaking if they hit the wall.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. So I'm saying, yes, let's go back to the bottle, but let's not keep the let's take the cotton ball out.
I'm just saying. Shake my pills.

Speaker 1 Shake my pills. Shake my pills.
Next Lisa, new Lisa from Temecula just dropped. Shake my pills.
Shake my last thing. I'm just saying Lisa the sound this makes.
Like, it's fucking thick.

Speaker 1 This is a cheesecake factory. It's a brochure.
No, you're right. It's a cheesecake factory menu.
I've never can I tell you something? This is the first time I'm seeing this.

Speaker 1 Actually, it's a good reminder. I'm gonna take my pill now.
Am I ready? I didn't even take my pure for men, too. By the way, pure for men, you can't.

Speaker 1 I respect the hell out of y'all. Keep sending.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love pure for menu. Baby, look at it.
I have it on display. The bum bomb.
Hello. Bitch.
The bum bomb goes so hard. The bum bomb.
People, people go, ooh.

Speaker 1 No, we can't. What are you saying?

Speaker 1 Jared is doing an impression of someone we met on vacation. We did meet someone on vacation who we were talking to them and then they got their passport out.

Speaker 1 She might listen. That's okay.

Speaker 1 Her passport was...

Speaker 1 It was like Looney Tunes. Well, no, because the thing is, like, we were just standing there, like, completely still.
There was no movement at all. And she, like, had her passport in her hands.

Speaker 1 And then out of nowhere, this, like, it was like,

Speaker 1 it was like a slapstick moment.

Speaker 1 It was slapstick. It was Charlie motherfucking Chaplin, which is not slapstick, I know, but you know what I mean.
Is he not slapstick? I don't think he's technically considered slapstick. Well, damn.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, he is slapstick. No, you're right.
A teacher towards me. No, no, no, no.
No, Charlie Chaplin is slapstick. A teacher towards me in the best way.

Speaker 1 Not in the evil groomer way that Kate Mara so expertly portrayed. She was so brilliant as a groomer in that show.
Kate Mara's grooming was so convincing. Better than Julianne's? Oh, Julianne.

Speaker 1 Julianne had some good grooming. She did great grooming in May, December.

Speaker 1 Let's be real. Yeah, let's be real.

Speaker 1 Julianne Morrison. Thank you.
I'm not dealing with this, Kate Mara. I also have to say, Kate Mara has not turned a performance that's nearly as good as either Carol or Girl with the Dragon Task.

Speaker 1 You didn't watch a teacher, and so you don't

Speaker 1 have a leg to stance on. You watch her episode of Pose? It's my birthday.
I won't be spoken to like this.

Speaker 1 Her episode of Pose.

Speaker 1 Who could forget? What I'll tell you about Kate Mara, no one's ever been better when being pushed in front of a train. Period.
Oh, please.

Speaker 1 Her claim the same. Well, Taylor was

Speaker 1 far different.

Speaker 1 Taylor was amazing in Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I was so proud of my claim.
No, I'm sorry. Rachel McAdams is the best.
Yeah, she really did that. At getting pushed in front of a train.
Or Or just being hit by a large.

Speaker 1 Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. And shove up your hair.

Speaker 1 That's what that moment is. I'm going to chase my prep pill with my Heineken while you announce Jared Frader.
This is Jared Frader's, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 His time starts now. Okay, so this goes out to Logan.
Logan, we love you. This is basically my cousin Rachel Stryker's.
I don't think so, honey, which is, I don't think so, honey, pediatric cancer.

Speaker 1 Out of all cancer research funding, only 4%, only 4% is to pediatric cancer. So fucked up.
We need to donate to pediatric cancer to stop it. And

Speaker 1 on that same limb, I don't think so, honey, Brooks from season 10 of The Real Housewives of Orange County, who faked cancer. One of the greatest reunions of all time.
Watch it, watch it.

Speaker 1 Dig yourself a bigger, gray biggie. Dig it, dig it.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, honey. Shannon Medori never coming on this podcast yet.
We got to get her on. Oh, okay.
We got to get Archie on the pod. It needs to happen.
Shannon and Archie, her dog.

Speaker 1 Shannon and Archie together. I envision two more mics at this table.
Everyone, we're huddling around talking about when Brooks fakes cancer. I don't think so, honey, cancer.
And

Speaker 1 I think that that is something that we all should be discussing for the rest of P-Town. Okay.
I love that. Five seconds.
Do you want to do one more?

Speaker 1 And thank you to all my homies out there. It's your birthday.
Happy to him. And happy birthday, Jared, and to all his homies out there.
Love you, Logan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's a very spirited. Very spirited.

Speaker 1 And it dovetailed perfectly into pop culture. I had to.
I had to do a Brooks place. Rachel inspired me to do that.
Did you know? This is an important message. Yes.

Speaker 1 Did you know that Jared watches the Real House Rise of Orange County reunion part three every night before he goes to bed? And do we mean every night? Every single day?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Until I set up that app that you told me about. Endall,

Speaker 1 which we've loved. I love Endall.
I love Endo so much. I love the soundscape of Vicki Gunwilson screaming.
Come on, House. Get over here.
It's time to do I Don't Think So, honey.

Speaker 1 Patrick Rodgers' I don't think so. You guys are going going to be introduced to Charlton last because you haven't met him yet.
Charlton is a big debut.

Speaker 1 And I asked if he had anything to say, and he said, Always. Always.

Speaker 1 All right, so here comes House. You want to count him down, Bonnier? This is Patrick Rogers' house.
I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

Speaker 1 Speaking of important messages, according to the director of retail business development at Hello Kitty, Hello Kitty is not a cat.

Speaker 1 She's actually a little girl born and raised in the suburbs of London. Yes.
I don't think so, honey. That's not a girl.
That's a cat. Girl, quit this narrative.

Speaker 1 I'm so sick of hearing about how this is a little girl. This is not Abigail Breslin.
This bitch has been dressed like a cat since I was born.

Speaker 1 She's always been a cat.

Speaker 1 She's always been. Now hold on.
Now hold on.

Speaker 1 She dressed like a cat.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Do you see? They attack me.
They attack my beliefs because they know how important message this is. This is a cat who's going about her business and she does not need to be dissipated.

Speaker 1 15 seconds

Speaker 1 into saying that she's a human. If you've ever met a cat, you know they do not want to be associated with human beings.
No, trust me. Five seconds.
Kitty has always been a cat.

Speaker 1 She will always be a cat. And I don't want this narrative to continue for another second.
And that's one minute. I want you to know.

Speaker 1 Wait, that first of all, first of all, you're so correct.

Speaker 1 When you type in is hello into Google, Kitty, the first thing, is hello, kitty, a cat.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding kidding me? No, but

Speaker 1 it's a thing. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, not to, this is, this is just to correlate and be a supplemental material. Celeste and I wrote a whole fucking sketch about this.
Yes. Like,

Speaker 1 this is still driving us crazy. It's an insane conversation that that company will not.
Well, won't budge. No, it's satanic.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Celeste, me, and the Please Don't Destroy Boys, we wrote this Hello Kitty sketch. Kiki Palmer.
I do remember this. It's Charlton Lamb's time.

Speaker 1 Wait, did you have something to contribute to the Hello Kitty discourse? Oh, you want to add? You want to add? I just want to say, just know know that Hello Kitty's always been a cat.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Just know.

Speaker 1 Always been a cat.

Speaker 1 All right, this is Charlton Lamb, everyone. It's your honor to meet him today.
And I'm very excited to hear what you got for us. Sonia and Counter Net.
This is, I'm very excited too.

Speaker 1 This is very anticipated for me. This is Charlton Lamb.
I don't think Sonia's time starts now.

Speaker 1 Hi, okay. I'm going to start and say, I'm not really ever on the application grinder.
Okay. When I am, and if you see me on there, please do as my headline says and take me on your boat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I just want to say, I don't think so, honey. People who post screenshots of people telling them they were good at sex

Speaker 1 as part of their profile on Grindr. Like, this is one of the best holes I've ever had.
You are so good. It's so weird.

Speaker 1 It's like, why am I scrolling through your album and it's like nude, nude, and then like a review of you being good, like some sort of creepy, nasty Jackie Weaver for your consideration campaign.

Speaker 1 It's so bizarre. And like, also, like, one thing that is not part of whether I want to have sex with you is if someone else enjoyed having sex with you.
Like, that's not part of it.

Speaker 1 It's like, am I attracted to you? Are you hot? It's meaningless data.

Speaker 1 It's like, hey, just even though you think I'm not cute, just let you know I actually have a 4.8 and turns on blowing and I'm working on raising my ring answers. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 That's just one minute. I mean, I think we have our winner.
We have our winner right here. I think Charlton has won the battle thing.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. Congratulations.
I have to say, I think we might have seen the same person because I had never.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 Is it someone in P Town? Is it here locally in Pete Town? Yes.

Speaker 1 You're busted. It's here in Pete Town.
And then the other thing is, like, the reply is always the most, like,

Speaker 1 thank you so much, ma'am.

Speaker 1 I really love that. I really was working on it.
Like, why is it this way?

Speaker 1 This reminds me of I was was at chinese school one year and a little kid it was kind of the cutest thing but it was this little kid held up a blue eyes white dragon card from yu-gio a powerful card in yu-gio and just walked around and just kind of like showed it to everybody yeah let it let you know status like letting you know but it's like well everyone has that card but also it's like everyone's had sex it's so like yes yes i've fucked before it's really it would be it's literally like it's like it is it's posting your own reviews it's crazy And also, it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Do you guys regularly follow up with trade apps? No, no.

Speaker 1 Not like that. Not like that.
Not like that. Not like, hey, leave a review.
It really help me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not the actual podcast app.

Speaker 1 No, it is. I will respond.
See you soon. Totally.
See you again. See you again.
Thanks so much. Yes.

Speaker 1 This all being said, by the way, if you do give us a five-star review on the podcast app, it actually does help. It actually does help.
Actually, we've had some crazy people lately sort of drag us.

Speaker 1 So please give us a five star review better not look it's not that i it's it's

Speaker 1 i i see it every now and then and i'm like i wish some of the readers would come through so give us a five star review and i'm so happy that's the way that this podcast is going to end can we just thank charlton patrick and frida happy birthday

Speaker 1 happy birthday frida it's jared's birthday and he's one of our favorites and we love you very much jared frider do you want to say one more thing to all the your homies your homies jared's fans are called homies are his fans called homies yeah

Speaker 1 if you're a jared fan you're a homie

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