"External Delights" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

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Speaker 4 oh i see my i oh my boy look over there wow is that culture yes goodness wow las culturistas

Speaker 4 ding dong culturistas calling just us today in person tactile tactile i mean at this point it's getting rarer and rarer for matt rodders to be in new york city he's playing sort of you know aloof with us i'm playing both sides as it were um no it's just that I'm get, it takes so long to have an apartment be ready.

Speaker 4 Yes. This is

Speaker 4 one of the realities of

Speaker 4 just having a place that you want to furnish in your own way because this is going to be your home. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's the plan is like, hopefully like September, October comes around and I'll have like a gorgeous little fall life.

Speaker 4 That low-key is not as busy and stressful as our lives have been because we've been stretched them.

Speaker 4 Can I tell you today is technically, and I guess not even technically anymore, was like my first day off in a long time. I know.
And it feels great because you just got back from China.

Speaker 4 And so I left for China the day after we taped Culture Awards, which is crazy.

Speaker 4 And we'll get to the Culture Awards because there's so much to say in preparation for it coming out on Bravo on the fifth and streaming the next day. Yes.

Speaker 4 On Peacock on the 6th. Much to say, but why don't you tell everybody about your trip? The headline is it was so fun, and it had been almost a decade since I was back.

Speaker 4 I used to go all the time as a kid, we would go basically every other year in the summer, and I would spend like six weeks there.

Speaker 4 And that was back when like time was just a little bit more available to everybody, like in the family. And, you know, now everyone's grown up, and every, you know, Yang has a family.

Speaker 4 Uh, I have my working life, which is, you know, kind of

Speaker 4 packed the gills. And I'm very fortunate about that.
But

Speaker 4 I'm also realizing like, oh, wow, like most of my summer, I mean, we're already in August and like most of our summer was all being put into one thing, which I have no regrets about, but I am like, oh, like that's where it all went.

Speaker 4 It was like a bigger, I mean, obviously because it was a bigger version of the way we've done it.

Speaker 4 It was a much bigger endeavor because, you know, peek behind the curtain, we kind of just look at the culture awards when we do it live, like a couple of weeks before.

Speaker 4 and we just reach out to friends who are available and are sourcing videos but this i don't know if you guys have seen like the content online about who was at the awards but this was a much much much different story in terms of production and getting it together and luckily we did absolutely crush and we ate tour and more

Speaker 4 but um again getting to that in a second like more highlights from the trip like like i feel like you posted some of the most beautiful photos i've ever seen oh my god uh girl well that's my eurico gr3 x shout out

Speaker 4 is that the camera that's the camera yeah really good that anyone can use oh yeah are you telling the the the readers i'm oh but what do you mean that anyone can use like anyone can come borrow your camera or you mean it's the ease of use and the ease of use is what i'm saying idiot proof it's idiot if i can take a pretty picture with it then you can you know what i mean yeah yeah no um i know it was so beautiful.

Speaker 4 And um, we, there's this, um, ritual in, in, in Chinese culture of uh, sweeping the tomb, quote unquote. Sweeping the tomb.
It's, yeah, Sao Mu.

Speaker 4 And it's, you go and you basically like clean and you maintain like the burial site or the grave or, you know, whatever.

Speaker 4 And so my grandparents are buried all the way out in the like ancestral burial grounds of like the Yang family. Wow.
And this, this is like generations of

Speaker 4 farmers and

Speaker 4 people whose worlds are

Speaker 4 both expansive and that they literally live in like the feigned grassy fields of inner Mongolia. Like they are like the pride of China.
Like these are truly like cinematic panoramic Windows XP

Speaker 4 coded. Screensaver vibes.
Screensaver vibes. Like they're gorgeous.
And yeah, like multiple, many generations of Yang families. There's like a lot of bodies.

Speaker 4 Is there a plot for you? There is not really a plot for me. And I think.

Speaker 4 Well, then they've lost the plot.

Speaker 4 Bury my girl somewhere. Great.
Yes. I want bury my girl at screensaver.
Yeah. Code is atmospheres.
Bury my heart at wounded knee. Now now.
Now now. But no, I'm like, I think my dad.

Speaker 4 So my dad, my parents are both like, I think we think we want to

Speaker 4 be cremated and we'll be like buried in the States. Okay.
Or like we'll spread their ashes somewhere when, you know, if that, if it comes to that. Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 So you're going to, you're going to be spreading. Girl, are we, are we at the age now where we have to like write our wills out? I thought about it.
I thought about it.

Speaker 4 I definitely thought about it on this trip. And I turned to my mom.
I was like, my parents have their wills done.

Speaker 4 And like, I remember a few years ago, like Yang and I had to sort of like look at the wills. Yeah.
I think I remember you told me this. And it was just, it was totally normal thing.

Speaker 4 It was just like, shit, this is like a thing that, I mean, I'm lucky that I haven't had to like, my thing is like, I haven't dealt with a huge, profound grief in my life.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think about this a lot. And when the time comes, like, I really don't know

Speaker 4 how transfer, it will be transformative, no doubt. I am kind of like, what am I going to be?

Speaker 4 I think about this. I mean, it's one of the reasons I don't get a dog.
Oh, it's honestly like, I we have to talk about the dogs.

Speaker 4 Okay, but we will talk about the dogs because this has become a real narrative. And it is.
If you and I both got, not to skip ahead, but if you're not, if you and I both got dogs.

Speaker 4 I don't think, I think you are ready for it and set up for it in a way that I am not. But you're about, you're, you're on, you're in the process of getting set up for it.

Speaker 4 I'm in the process of getting set up as a home for myself. I don't know.
So this is honestly my, my issue. And it's.

Speaker 4 It has to do with the thing about you just said about grief too, is it's like, I think all the time about how, and I hate even putting this energy out there, but I have thought about my will recently.

Speaker 4 I don't know, I was the one who brought it up, but yeah, go, yeah, but like I was thinking about it as recently as yesterday, so it's funny that you say that.

Speaker 4 And I don't know if that's having to do with, you know, just getting older or just to be transparent, having more money now that I would want to go to my sister. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I also don't know, and I don't deny that it has something to do with the fact that, like, shit is dark. You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 4 yesterday we were taping Colbert and there was a shooting right right around the corner. And,

Speaker 4 you know, like to say nothing of like the rest of the state of the world, which, you know, let's leave that there for now. But regardless, like I get so overwhelmed by

Speaker 4 things that have nothing

Speaker 4 comparable in terms of stakes with death and real things. Like if I got a dog, I genuinely feel like if it coughs weird, if it's sick,

Speaker 4 I'm going to lose my shit. Like, I I think it's why I can't have children.
It's not because it's a selfish decision. I simply think like I might care too much.

Speaker 4 And that sounds like a backhanded compliment. It's, I promise you it's not.
I think it's pathetic of me. No.
But like, I mean, like, even just like.

Speaker 4 Just, I'm having like a journey this year. And I think last year too, just like really examining my anxiety and how to control it can get.
And, you know,

Speaker 4 I don't think I'm equipped emotionally to care for something at this time that much. Like that's really where I'm at.

Speaker 4 Like when you talk about like not being able to handle grief, like I wouldn't be able to handle it at all. I have a deep fear of what happens when that happens.

Speaker 4 Is your anxiety a fixed point to you? Like, do you feel like you can

Speaker 4 to be honest with you, you know, it's like a lot of times like these things are also superpowers for you. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 It's like, I feel like my anxiety, like it's been something that makes me overprepared. I think it makes me something that jumps into action.

Speaker 4 I think it makes me something that's very, makes me somebody who's very generative in terms of ideas and, you know,

Speaker 4 very

Speaker 4 equipped for what we do. You know what I mean? In terms of being entertainers and doing what we do.

Speaker 4 But I will say, like, there is a, there is another side to it, like a darker side to it that really comes at my expense.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to start engaging with my psychiatrist again about potentially figuring something something out. Because I've really,

Speaker 4 you know, just transparently, like, I'm so proud of what we did with the culture awards. So proud.
But it took me a second to calm down. Like during the process, like I was very

Speaker 4 like, and we had an amazing team helping us, as you know, like, and you're going to see the results, but like, I was nervous. Well, you were nervous within the boundary of yourself.

Speaker 4 You were like, am I going to be able to deliver on all of these ideas that we spent like, you know, the last six weeks or so just like coming up with?

Speaker 4 Cause, you know, it was also a very disorienting thing for me where I was not used to, I'm used to just like shedding the skin of an idea, bringing an idea to conception within a week and then just like letting it go.

Speaker 4 Right. Like I've had so many reps of that.
And I realized that like I was very specially equipped for that process in terms of scaling it up for the culture awards. And I feel like,

Speaker 4 but I still feel like I was kind of out of my depth by the end. I was like, oh, this is a lot.
It was a lot. And you and I both have very different responses to that kind of overwhelm.
And so sorry.

Speaker 4 And this, just, just, just to keep talking about your response. No, no, no, no.
I just mean like, I have an anxious response to stress.

Speaker 4 And it

Speaker 4 was

Speaker 4 stressful. No, you know what? Honestly, it was.
And you guys are going to see this in the show. So there is,

Speaker 4 we do a big opening. Yes.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 does it still read as big? Cause I have not seen the edit still. Does it read as big? It's really

Speaker 4 good. It is really good.
And I have to say, like, we will talk more specifically about what this is.

Speaker 4 And I understand we're dangling a carrot, but that is also fine because I, I, and also Bowen, I'm sure, we really want you guys to tune in and tell everyone about this because

Speaker 4 it is, it is the culture awards. like turned all the way up.

Speaker 4 And by the way, the shit that they let us get away with, I truly feel like we were, we scammed our way into doing this because so much of the blue sky, which is like what they call the phase at the beginning of a creative process, is in that show.

Speaker 4 So much of it. Like

Speaker 4 shout out to NBC, Bravo, and Peacock for really, and I do think it's a credit to you and the foundation that you've created there.

Speaker 4 And just in terms of like how much they trust you and the vibes were so great and they let us do all this stuff.

Speaker 4 But just to speak about the thing that made me the most nervous, it is an opening number that is certainly an homage to someone in culture.

Speaker 4 And I think that I had been, I don't love dancing and doing choreo and stuff. I absolutely love singing, as you guys all know.
I'm so good at it. Like, I love it.
I feel confident doing it.

Speaker 4 But when it comes to

Speaker 4 choreography, especially iconic choreography, or that which references iconic choreography, I don't even need to be in front of everyone I've ever met and everyone I would ever know

Speaker 4 to be nervous. The audience was crazy.
No, it's like the one thing that I didn't realize was going to happen, which of course it was going to, was the seat cards.

Speaker 4 Like, you know, so those are all your heroes and friends. Literally,

Speaker 4 but we're rehearsing in the space, like the number, doing the whole show. And they've got the seat cards on the seats, which is the headshots of everyone that's going to be in the audience.

Speaker 4 And I was like, this is not normal. No.
This is not

Speaker 4 normal.

Speaker 4 But I will say, like, it happens to tend to be, I'll freak out like day, weeks and days before. And then the day of, I actually feel quite confident.

Speaker 4 And I will say, once we got through the number and we did it well.

Speaker 4 During the show, on the day. After that, I felt incredible.
Yes, that's where I could, I could feel the shift. I was just like, oh my God, we did it.
I did not. The hard part's over.

Speaker 4 I didn't like eat it in front of literally the world. Yes.
And

Speaker 4 again, like, I just

Speaker 4 like after that, and once the show started, and it was like our goofy Frankenstein nightmare, like, you know, award show happening, I was just like, wow, it's playing. It's going well.

Speaker 4 Like this bizarre Hollywood puzzle slash chess game slash keys to the car we were given. Like it was all panning out.

Speaker 4 And then I was relaxing.

Speaker 4 relaxing but i guess this is what i mean is it's like there's got to be a better way for me to treat myself in preparation for these things i i wouldn't beat yourself up too much about it because i think this is also something that you will develop a thicker skin and expectation and you'll you'll just know it's like your first time doing

Speaker 4 not for nothing, one of the hardest things in entertainment, which is to quote unquote host an award show.

Speaker 4 Even though we're doing like a funny, frivolous, parodied version of it, we still put it like our body and our mind can't really tell the difference when we're up there. I'm talking about you and me.

Speaker 4 When we're up there doing like what is still a kind of thankless job, you know what I mean? We just had the extreme benefit and fortune of having our

Speaker 4 beautiful, wonderful, hilarious, clever, loving fans there.

Speaker 4 That's just the main difference.

Speaker 4 It's like in the room, it feels so much better than a Stuffy Award show where everyone is taking themselves so seriously and like their careers are on the line or whatever.

Speaker 4 It was like this crazy, well, Darcy Cardin, I think, said it best.

Speaker 4 We were backstage and she had come off stage doing her bit, which she does with Joel Canbooster, which I cannot wait for you guys to see. But she came back and she was like, it's like a bit show.

Speaker 4 She's like, it's like a UCB bitch show. DCN, Douglas Marathon.

Speaker 4 And so for those of you who maybe don't really know what that is, it's like there there was an whole era, and it's not over, but it's not like it was where when we were coming up in comedy in New York, like you'd go to, I don't know, UCB East or wherever, and it would just be like

Speaker 4 an hour or so of just whatever the show was, everyone coming up and doing a four or five minute stupid fucking bit, new character, trying things out, et cetera.

Speaker 4 And this was like a version of that blown all the way out with like truly,

Speaker 4 and I can't say enough, like our heroes. Like,

Speaker 4 I mean, you've, you've seen the carpet. So you know that some people are there.

Speaker 4 So it's not a spoiler for me to say that Kristen Wigg does the show, to say that Keenan is in the show, to AD Bryant, you know, and the list goes on and on.

Speaker 4 I don't want to cross into a place where I start to ruin it, but like,

Speaker 4 I just feel so lucky that people wanted to play with us and that we were trusted to do that and so overjoyed that it came out as well as it did because it was a lot. Yes.

Speaker 4 Like, yeah, I, cause, cause I got to say, going to China right after the awards. I can't imagine.
It was like, it was both like good and not so good in terms of processing.

Speaker 4 what that experience was because I I didn't really impact it with anyone except I didn't get a chance to do that until last night when you and me and and our manager Olivia Olivia, were together after Colbert.

Speaker 4 We were just like, I was like, oh yeah, wow. And like, just learning about the dynamic seed.
And yes, we had an amazing team of people.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Lauren Mandel, Jane Munn, City Green, Celeste M., Frank Gillespie, Olivia, R.E.P. Lauren Lemieux.
Yeah, all of Lionsgate, which worked with us on the show.

Speaker 4 And, you know, also, you know, just. Katie Hockmeyer.
Truly, Jen Neal, thank you guys so much. Like, and like, I just...
And Procter, we love you.

Speaker 4 Oh, Jen Proctor, we love you, which had booked the show for us. And honestly, over 50 talent in the show, which is, which

Speaker 4 that number, if that doesn't mean anything to you, I felt like it was having 50 hosts. Yeah.
50 SNL hosts in one night. It was, it was crazy.
It did feel like

Speaker 4 SNL 50, like kids. A little, like, yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 4 SNL 50 Jr. Yes, yes, yes.
It's kind of the vibe it was giving. I'll never forget, like, the night, I think it was that night.

Speaker 4 Someone had posted like a string out of everyone on the purple carpet. Uh-huh.
And you were like, and I was just like, I can't believe that that happened.

Speaker 4 And, you know, lots of really fun different personalities. Like,

Speaker 4 and truly, like, just the collision of like everyone on that on that carpet and then getting like actual media coverage, which is also part of the joke and the bit of the whole thing.

Speaker 4 Like watching someone serve on the Lost Culture Excess Culture Awards carpet is just so funny because what is happening? Right. You're like, wait, why are you talking about that?

Speaker 4 But no, this is, we're not like, wait, huh? Like, we're being perceived.

Speaker 4 No, it's, it's just, it's just funny because again, and we, and we say this in the show, spoiler alert, it's like this started out as a bit. Yeah.
And so

Speaker 4 thank you for being along for the journey and helping us sort of blow it out to this scale for now. And who, who knows what will come of it in the future.
And we never would have even,

Speaker 4 this is honestly something that like, it wasn't even like when we started started it and created it like oh this is going to be something that we pitch one day it was entirely because you all like expressed a desire to want to see it when you lined up at lincoln center and some of you got turned away because at the time we just didn't think there was any way that a surplus of people would come to see us live you know what i mean like but it was really because we wanted to bring this to you and share this thing that's become such a crucial part of the lost coach calendar year it just felt wrong to not do everything we could to bring it to everyone.

Speaker 4 Also, because we're really proud of it in terms of like, you know, what it is doing. And so you're exactly right.
After that first year where people were turned away, we were like, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4 No, it doesn't feel right. This needs to be literally broadcast.
And so from that year on, and that's why like.

Speaker 4 There was no live stream the second year, the third year, we couldn't technically do it without weird like legal and clearance issues.

Speaker 4 And so then there were fan live streams from the audience, which we were like unofficially like sanctioning and being like, This is okay.

Speaker 4 Hopefully, it delights people externally. And,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 tune in. All we ever do, all we ever hope really is to externally delight.
It's actually really cojo number eight. All we ever hope to do is externally delight.

Speaker 4 External delights is a kind of a front runner for title of that.

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Speaker 4 Should we talk about some culture?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think I'm, I must say I'm a little behind, or I'm playing catch up because I watched a lot of stuff on the plane because my internet was on the Fritz in China.

Speaker 4 Watch, tell us a little bit about what you watched. I watched

Speaker 4 a lot of movies for the first time that I feel like should be like, should have been things. Let's talk about it.
No, no, no. I don't want to.
Why are you ashamed? I'm ashamed and I also like didn't.

Speaker 4 I still have to finish this movie that I was telling you about last night. You don't want to share? I don't want to share.
Okay.

Speaker 4 So there is is a there's a classic film Many would say one of the best of all time or whatever you know rubric that's based on that is pretty objectively called that

Speaker 4 that Bowen is talking about and he'll finish the film. Yes.

Speaker 4 And then we will talk about it. And then we will talk about it.
And then at which time I will reveal I also haven't seen it. Oh, yes.
So I'm just saying you're not alone in this.

Speaker 4 You have a sisterhood.

Speaker 4 We should see it together. Okay, fine.
We should finish it together. Okay.
Because

Speaker 4 this is a kind of like calling back to the era of I had never seen sound of music, you had never seen Jaws. And now it's another movie that neither of us had.
Now it's a movie that neither of us had.

Speaker 4 It is a movie on that level. Yes, of course.

Speaker 4 So you've been watching a lot of films. Well, a lot of films.
Are you behind on the Bravo of it all? I'm caught up on Miami and OC.

Speaker 4 I'm also caught up on OC. I have not, I have not watched Next Gen NYC beyond the first episode.
It's not for me, I don't think. All good.

Speaker 4 A rooting for everybody. Rooting for everybody.
We love everybody, in the words of Mariah Carey.

Speaker 2 everybody.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 finished the pit on the plane home final.

Speaker 4 What is your deal with the pit? I love it. Because I can't, you know, I can't do that.

Speaker 4 It's pretty gory.

Speaker 4 There's moments of, whoa,

Speaker 4 I can't believe we're seeing this. Yeah.
But it's excellent. Excellent performances.
Noah Wiley King. Noah Wiley being back.
Well, he doesn't wear scrubs in this, huh?

Speaker 4 He technically has scrubs and he has a hoodie over it, Dr. Robbie.
But it's just so wonderful. Oh, what a, what a great Dr.
Robbie. What a king.

Speaker 4 Dr. Robbie has a name.
That is his name. Yeah.
Dr. Robbie.
You are smiling.

Speaker 4 I love him. I love him.
Have you ever told him this? No. Would you?

Speaker 4 I'm sure.

Speaker 4 You know, today I'm a little anxious because when it comes to speaking about shooting your shot with celebrities,

Speaker 4 I haven't seen our hot ones versus. I think it's about to go up.
Is it about to go up? I think it's going up today at some point. I know it's going up today.

Speaker 4 And you shoot a shot in the shot.

Speaker 4 One of the things was like, shoot a shot in real time. Like, one of the things was like, shoot your shot in real time with a celebrity.
And then Bone was like, Sebastian Stan.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, no, I don't want to eat a wing because they really were hot. Right.
And I was like, I'm going to do this for real. Oh, yeah.
I admire you for that.

Speaker 4 And so I shot a shot that I've, that I've, I've, I watched a brush of mine for

Speaker 4 a decade, 15 years. Yeah, yeah.
Which was, which was Mr. Groff.

Speaker 4 Um, love. And the thing is, like, that spitter.

Speaker 4 Me in the second row with my mouth open.

Speaker 4 No, just kidding. I want to be respectful.
Splashed them.

Speaker 4 Ish.

Speaker 4 But no, I was really shy afterwards. I was like, oh, no.
And I had already asked them to take one thing out because

Speaker 4 I got a little carried away. And

Speaker 4 I was like, yeah, take that out. So I was like, I'm not going to go back and ask them to edit this out, but it's out there.
That's okay.

Speaker 4 It's out there. It's okay to shoot your shots sometimes.
Sometimes it is. And I was like, you know, and it it could work very well work.
The wings were really hot. They were very hot.

Speaker 4 Should we reveal what the next day was like? We were sick. I had a harder time doing verses

Speaker 4 sort of GI-wise than I did regular hot ones. Do you want to know why? It's the last stab.
Because it was last stab all the way around. Yes.

Speaker 4 So basically, the way that that show works is there's six wings in front of you that I guess are the six questions or rounds.

Speaker 4 And they're all

Speaker 4 the last stab, which is the 10th wing in the hot one sequence. So it follows, it's two after Dabom, which is like a life rowing.
Dabom is like, Dabom is what is like, scorches the earth.

Speaker 4 And last dab, it's like, it's a soft-ish landing, but it's still very intense.

Speaker 4 But the, like, I would rather have the progression than full last dab, full blast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's the thing is it was like, I was like, oh, I was even talking shit at the, at the top, being like, this is not that bad as this usually, but there is a build. No, it adds up.

Speaker 4 And I felt not good the next day. I did not meet either.
But I think you did better than I did.

Speaker 4 In terms of how I felt. In terms of how you felt.
I do think that, and if I might say, my stomach has a little more fortitude than yours. Yes.

Speaker 4 And I, first of all, I don't think so, honey, ever being like, Bowen's going to win.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like.

Speaker 4 Don't talk to my friend like that. That is them just assuming that you are going to like be more poised in general.
Right. I think that with love,

Speaker 4 y'all really assume I'm some sort of freak or a mess and no, I I see you I see you talking about me this way.

Speaker 4 I see what your opinions of me are you did come to my mind when I was eating crab in Dandong which is a harbor town and known for their seafood and I was trying to break this crab open and I was like I

Speaker 4 Matt would do this so so well. Well, I'm a trained crab so I'm sort of the Noah Wiley in the pit of crabs.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I sort of break him open, crack them open, go in the corner after I've worked really hard and save lives out there. And I just sob to myself,

Speaker 4 get my Eminom.

Speaker 4 I wonder if 10 years ago I would have felt that way. Because now it's like spicy foods, it's different.
Roller coasters, it's different.

Speaker 4 Which really vulnerable for you to admit. Honestly, it's...
You used to be a coaster queen. I'll just never forget who I used to be.
She used to be mine.

Speaker 4 Like, I used to be that girl that was like, I just talked about this actually on,

Speaker 4 well, I I don't even know if it's announced because I don't, I don't, so I shouldn't say it, but a friend of ours, two friends of ours, have a new podcast. And we were talking about

Speaker 4 just doing roller coasters and being like a daredevil and stuff. Like when I was little, I used to like be the, I talked about this on this podcast.
I jumped out of a plane, et cetera.

Speaker 4 I do one or two roller coasters in a row now, and it's a full rap biologically. Well, physically.

Speaker 4 To be fair, the last time you felt this was when we had to ride the Stardust Racer Stardust Racers twice, two times within like five minutes. Right after we shot hot ones.
Right after we shot.

Speaker 4 Oh, was it? Do you remember that? Oh,

Speaker 4 I can't. I think it was literally, it was, we, we had shot hot ones, then the next day got on the plane to go down there and did the roller coasters.
Or yes, that's what it was. Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 We shot hot ones a while ago. Yes, they, they really banked that episode.
And I was like, when is this going to come out? And now it's obviously come out at the perfect time. Right.
But

Speaker 4 like

Speaker 4 that, that week, that like week and a half when we were flying down doing the roller coasters and then doing hot ones in the same week, that was a test of the stomach. And I think I had to go.

Speaker 4 I went to Wicked after

Speaker 4 Stardust, after Epic Universe. You went to Wicked? Oh.
Oh, I. Oh, no, no, no.
We can say. We can say.

Speaker 4 You did research. We did research for Wicked.

Speaker 4 Oh, oh, right. Hold on.
Let me, let me look this up. Okay, hot one.
Yeah, look at the calendar. I'm almost positive that it was like

Speaker 4 May 19. Yeah.
Yeah. And that was two days after the SNL finale.
Yep. Oh, yeah.
I remember this. And then we did

Speaker 4 Epic Universe, and then I went to, oh my God, I went to London, England to do rooked reshoots. No,

Speaker 4 sometimes you look back at your own schedule and you're like, what? There was one.

Speaker 4 I'm telling you, this is my first day off in months and this is technically work even though we don't think of it as work right especially these episodes and by the way i do think that we're gonna make a conscious effort to just be us for a while like yes i genuinely do feel like i'm going through some sort of new return to saturn like interesting because it's i i is is this a thing that i'm talking about

Speaker 4 get you get someone to do another chart reading for you is am i making it up that like there's something to like every seven years i don't know because it feels like 35 28 21, 14, and seven are like times of awakening.

Speaker 4 Like, I feel like seven years old is when my, honestly, when my eyes opened up to like what culture was for me

Speaker 4 because of the titanic of it all and like all that. 14 was like certainly like, I remember being that age and being like, that was like eighth into ninth grade, which was horrible.

Speaker 4 And like, you know, another change. 21 is obviously you're 21.
So many, so much. things become available to you, like, et cetera.

Speaker 4 Like kind of like settling into my body as like a gay person. 28 has obviously returned to Saturn, like, et cetera.
And now I feel like at 35 again, I'm like

Speaker 4 looking at my life in a certain way and being like, okay, I've been in denial about this. This makes me happy.
This does not. This person has a belonging.
This person no longer does. Like,

Speaker 4 I don't, are you in that place? Yeah. Cause obviously, you know,

Speaker 4 changes. It's yes.
I am certainly in that place, but I am also not 35 yet. Well,

Speaker 4 we're going to have a birthday for you.

Speaker 4 The versus is up. The versus is up.

Speaker 4 No, that's weird. No, we'll watch it after.
We'll watch it after.

Speaker 4 But, okay, well, that's fun. That's fun.
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Speaker 4 My computer just crashed, you guys. What's the astrology on that? I think it means we have to do, I don't think so, honey.
It does. Wait, but I did want to ask you, have you seen Superman yet? Yes.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. I loved that movie.
So much fun. Brazi and I mean I love Rachel.
Mr. Cornsweat.

Speaker 4 Has the world found its hottest person?

Speaker 4 I forgot who posted this on socials, but they were like, I love that

Speaker 4 the PR for this movie, the campaign for this movie is just look at how hot this guy is. And I love how much it's going to work.
And it did. Oh, it absolutely worked on me.

Speaker 4 And also, one thing I think that movie needs to get more credit for is that long scene between Clark and Lois. Like, it was like a really long scene of just dialogue.
It was like 12 minutes.

Speaker 4 It was a dialogue. Yeah.
And I was like, they're both so good. And Rachel is just like,

Speaker 4 she's such a star. And we love her so much.
And just the really intelligent back and forth they were having like. early in this movie.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, the rest of it just being so kind of just like unabashedly about going for the joke. A couple times, I was like, Wow, we are really broad, but I never was mad.

Speaker 4 I was just like, This is the energy we need. No, just that whole scene of them, also with like the alien in the background.
I was like, Yeah, I loved that. Loved that.

Speaker 4 Like, it reminded me of like scary movie three. Yeah.
Naked gun-esque movies, which I'm really excited to see. So excited.
I think this is my favorite James Gunn, actually.

Speaker 4 Because, you know, famously, we did not live for guardians. Right.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 we've said on the podcast.

Speaker 4 This was years and years and years ago. Bowen Yang and I walked out of Guardians.

Speaker 4 We walked out of two films together in history, and they were

Speaker 4 the first Guardians and Oppenheimer. Owen Oppenheimer, right.
And directors who we love. Directors we absolutely love or else we wouldn't have been.
Exactly. So, but the thing is,

Speaker 4 this Superman movie, I was just like, wow, like really, I could feel, and I really liked his suicide squad too. I liked his suicide squad too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just like really like his sense of humor, and I thought it worked really well here.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, incredibly, incredibly hot and talented lead actor playing Superman. Like, let's go.
He's actually the inspir for my haircut currently. Oh, I sat down in the chair with Thomas O.

Speaker 4 I see it. In Hollywood Baby, shout out.
And I said, corn sweat. Oh, my God.
Which, is that how you pronounce it? I feel like the E is the first E is silent. Corn sweat.

Speaker 4 It's like, it's like if corn could sweat. That is hot.
Corn sweat.

Speaker 4 It's not the hottest last name there is. What is?

Speaker 4 Smith. Wait, I was going to say Smith.
I was literally like, is she about to say Smith? I said Smith. John Smith.
But I also, it's also the most generic. You need to examine that.
Oh.

Speaker 4 You're colonized.

Speaker 4 You have colonized, by the way. In our devastation, thinking that we had lost an episode because Matt's audio, Matt's computer crashed,

Speaker 4 watched our hot ones versus we cheered ourselves up by watching our hot ones versus we love it. It's so funny.
It was so fun.

Speaker 4 First we feast team, great. They talk about going for the joke.

Speaker 4 They get it.

Speaker 4 A team who gets it. So deeply over there.
We love them and we love doing it. And even though we felt sick after, that's part of it.
No, and it was worth it. And so we each ate four.
We each ate two.

Speaker 4 We each ate two. No, I think there was two left.

Speaker 4 No, we only ate, no, we each ate two wings. Girl, I don't know.
You watch it back.

Speaker 4 And you can too. On YouTube, on YouTube, I'm at First Wee Feast.

Speaker 4 Okay, so maybe it's time for... I'm trying to think.

Speaker 4 Of course, there's like more things in culture that we missed. Absolutely.
Ghillain is getting interviewed, I guess, right now, huh?

Speaker 4 Remember our episode about Ghillaine? One of our best. One of our best.
And now she's like back. What is going on? I don't know.
I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 4 we have theories, but we can't. I have so many theories.
I've actually become quite the little conspiracy theorist about the whole thing. Look,

Speaker 4 this was all where it was headed. You know, like we're all conspiracy theorists now, and the left needs its own cue.
Q.

Speaker 4 The left needs its own cue.

Speaker 4 And I'm happy. Maybe it's us.

Speaker 4 We would be amazing cues. We would be amazing cues.
We'd be incredible. We're curious.
We're all the fun cults. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We kind of do. Right.

Speaker 4 And thank you, all you cultists out there. Should we just really do away with our PKPFs and and just say our RKPFKs? See now, we see this is what I'm saying.
It's getting too.

Speaker 4 I was trying to lump Kyles into the Katies.

Speaker 4 I'm not here to say I told you so, but you can't put the GD back in the bottle because the GD is out flexing his big muscles, and that's Kyle. I'm not hearing from enough Kyles.

Speaker 4 So that's I'm going to say

Speaker 4 you're on the shopping block. I'm going to invisibilize Kyles until they prove otherwise to me.
Can you guys please?

Speaker 4 Kyle should be in Boen Yang's DMs being nice.

Speaker 4 Okay. Not prescriptive.
No, it's fine. Not judgmental.
Only nice. It's fine.
Okay, so this is I don't think so, honey. Yep.
It's our time.

Speaker 4 It's our moment in the, in the, um, in the episode to sort of rant and rail against something in pop culture or culture at large. I'm going to be attacking culture at large.
Okay.

Speaker 4 And this is something that, you know, it's one of my vices requires me to do something, and I'm having a problem doing it. Okay.
This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey's time starts now.

Speaker 4 I don't think so, honey, the packaging on weed.

Speaker 4 Like, you can't open these things. What kind of weed? I'm talking about, like, pre-rolls that you would get at like an official weed store, like one of those Apple stores for weed in LA.

Speaker 4 I don't think so, honey. The way that they sell this stuff.
Also, by the way, this. I'm not even going to say what it is because I don't want the brand to feel embarrassed.
It's been too long.

Speaker 4 This is hard to open. But once you get the hang of it, you're going to be able to do it.
Like, I'm telling you, edibles, pre-rolls, like, I haven't even really engaged in anything.

Speaker 4 And they're child-proofing. Yeah, it's child-proofing.

Speaker 4 But in the child-proofing, you've also Matt proofed it and that is gonna happen when you child proof you're gonna also matt rogers proof and i am your grown ass fingers and let me tell you something i can't open it's not as simple as squeezing the sides and then popping the top but it has to be because that's what you've said will do the trick but it doesn't do the trick me and melissa were banging our heads against the wall

Speaker 4 trying to smoke some indica oh and i'm like babe i'm i'm on the other planet of stress now i really need it i don't think so honey and that's one minute.

Speaker 4 Rita's, if you feel me, please reach out and tell me that I'm not crazy and alone in this because the packaging on marijuana has become restrictive. Criticize him.

Speaker 4 Criticize me, please. Kidding.
No, honestly, if I'm an idiot, if I'm an idiot, tell me. But I also don't think I am because I had a

Speaker 4 witness there in Melissa, and we were really, we could not open it. No, she can do anything.
She can do it all. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know how frustrating it is to be there, a full-grown human, alongside someone someone who can do it all and neither of you can do a thing. I didn't mean to doubt you.
I just...

Speaker 4 No, because, I mean, the next time I have a problem, I'll just space-time you and show you.

Speaker 4 But no, I ran into this recently.

Speaker 4 I bought a pre-roll package and I was like, okay, all right. It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays.
It's like getting into Fort Knox. It's like, it's really culture number 18.

Speaker 4 It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays.

Speaker 4 You haven't, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 4 Yeah, although I don't, I can't, I'm gonna find it as I

Speaker 4 okay.

Speaker 4 Okay. Okay, here we go.
That is a way to do things. Okay, great.
Um, this is Boen Yang's I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.

Speaker 4 I don't think so, honey, on the culture, not knowing where we have landed on the laboo-boo versus lefufu discourse.

Speaker 4 It seems like now we're favoring Lefufus more because we are, you know, we see labo-boos as this artificial scarcity, you know, example.

Speaker 4 And why are we gatekeeping, you know, this trend from so many people.

Speaker 4 But at the same time, now it seems like we've overcorrected into the Lefu Fus where we like are kind of putting more value in the Lefufu because they're fake and because they're knockoffs.

Speaker 4 But you can't knock off a culture that has thrived on knockoffs for decades at this point. I'm talking about China.
They will beat us at this game.

Speaker 4 Laboo-boos will emerge as the victor. 15 seconds.
I, for the longest time, was resisting the Laboo Boo craze. And I finally went to the place of origin.

Speaker 4 And I thought, well, I walked into a Potmart and I went,

Speaker 4 this is glorious. And I'm seeing the people shake the boxes because they can tell by the weight and the feel which ones are different.
And I'm like, this is a turn I want to be on board for.

Speaker 4 And that's one minute. So we found out yesterday that the way you can tell a lefufu from a laboo boo is the number of teeth.

Speaker 4 Yes. I said, this is crazy.
It's biological. It's biological.

Speaker 4 I think this is filling the void in my heart. A lot of healing happened on this trip.
That's the other headline. And we all.
You have perspective. You heal.
Yes.

Speaker 4 And, you know, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like all the trips prior to this one were about me like being in the closet and staying in the closet.

Speaker 4 And I didn't necessarily come out to anyone on this trip, but

Speaker 4 the way I was being discussed on China's social media made it very apparent to the people who were on social media, to my family members who were on social media. And I was like, you know what?

Speaker 4 I kind of like it this way. Yeah.
That I didn't have to broach the subject. External External delights.
External delights.

Speaker 4 But if this also healed for me, I was never allowed to have a single beanie baby growing up.

Speaker 4 This was my dad with Tamagotchis. Interesting.
He was like, why would I get you that? You have a dog. Well, period.
I mean, can't really argue with that, but it was devastating

Speaker 4 time. Because you couldn't have a beanie baby.
Couldn't have a beanie baby. What was their reasoning for that? They were like,

Speaker 4 these are going to be all over the house. Like literally.

Speaker 4 So when we moved to the States, we would go into like open houses and go to look at people's houses in colorado and suburban colorado and it would be you know we yang and i would freak out i remember there was one room there was one kid's room full of beanie babies and we were like oh my god mom and dad look at how many baby beanie babies they have they go Yeah, no way.

Speaker 4 That is grotesque. Not at my home.
Not in my home. You're not having those fucking things in our house.
See, I think, so they saw an example of an extreme. Yes.
And they went, we're not touching.

Speaker 4 I mean, it was this, it was just austerity and it's it's immigrant parents and i totally i don't begrudge them of that i just think all these years later i had to heal that child yeah you need

Speaker 4 my labuboo and i love my labuboo can you show your labuboo i've got one labuboo here i've got the blue one oh that's really good i've got that and then another one came in i'm gonna i'm

Speaker 4 That is good. Okay.
So I have not really engaged in labo boo. Do you want to culture? Do you want my labu? I have another labuboo.

Speaker 4 I don't think, no, you take it because I feel like like if i want if i want one i will pick i will find the lubo boo for me but i'm and how much is it

Speaker 4 it depends okay well talk about that i think if you go on stockx.com you can buy one for like 40 bucks and what's the what's an example of an expensive laboo boo like if you want to like really like go for i don't know the premium ones it could go like a hundred two hundred Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 See, I thought it was so out of control that we were talking like a couple thousand dollar Levoo Boos. No, no.

Speaker 4 See, but that's the thing is it's like with things like this that become a fashion accessory, like where is the ceiling on what people would pay for that? Like you have to imagine like,

Speaker 4 you know, for some people, there probably is no ceiling if you love it that much. Wait, you said the Lefufus can't turn their head around.
The Labuboo can turn its head around. I just turned it.

Speaker 4 Well, maybe you have a Lefufu. No!

Speaker 4 I count nine teeth and that is the real number. That's nine.
That's nine. All right.

Speaker 4 I have another one. I have another one in my room.
All right. Joey's Joe.

Speaker 4 He's going to get the

Speaker 4 other laboo boo, and we're actually going to count the teeth right now to find out if it's real or not. Um, this is a huge thing in culture, and this is Lost Culturista.

Speaker 4 So, if you are already at max with the labuboo of it, by the way, like

Speaker 4 this is really good in two seconds, these are going to be out of style. We're going to look like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
So, this is real.

Speaker 4 And then, can you turn its head around?

Speaker 4 I think they can all, they can all have their heads turned around. This one doesn't turn around.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Like, by the way, I don't want to snap its head off because this is what

Speaker 4 I don't know what you paid for it. I don't want to ask you what you paid for it.
But, like,

Speaker 4 by the way, this one is cute. Maybe I will take this one.
Take her. Would you gift it to me? Yes.
You don't want to give it up. No, that's yours.
This is mine. Yes.
I think that's a really okay.

Speaker 4 We're going to take a photo with our boo-boos, and that's going to be the episode. That's going to be the episode.
External delights. Yes.

Speaker 4 This has been an internal delight in terms of the people that make and create Las Culturistas, Spoen Yang and myself.

Speaker 4 And we have to say one more time that the Lost Culturistas Culture Awards are on August 5th on Bravo. Surreal thing to say.

Speaker 4 We are going to be, you know, on Watch What Happens Live on Monday night, and we're going to be chatting with the man himself, Andy Cohen, who does factor into the show along with a lot of your faves.

Speaker 4 And.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's Jim's the next down Peacock. Anything you want to say to prime the readers and more?

Speaker 4 Because maybe they should just be called that, readers and more. Readers and more.

Speaker 4 Interesting. Well, we can't.
We can't. Now you're really trying to put the juni back in the bottle.

Speaker 4 I think it will be

Speaker 4 out of this world.

Speaker 4 That's a hint. That's a hint.
Okay, well, you guys are some laboohoos out there, and all you lafoofus, we can tell.

Speaker 4 We end every episode with a song.

Speaker 4 Dude,

Speaker 4 I don't want to fall asleep. Cause I miss you, babe.
And I don't wanna miss a thing.

Speaker 4 For more of that, watch the Culture Awards. Bye.

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