"External Delights" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

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Look, man.

Oh, I see.

My eye.

Oh my.

Bowen, look over there.

Wow, is that culture?

Yes.

Goodness.

Wow.

Las Culturistas.

Ding-dong.

Las Culturistas calling.

Just us today, in-person tactile.

Tactile.

I mean, at this point, it's getting...

Rarer and rarer for Matt Rodgers to be in New York City.

He's playing sort of, you know, aloof with us.

I'm playing both sides, as it were.

No, it's just that I'm get, it takes so long to have an apartment be ready.

Yes.

This is

one of the realities of

just having a place that you want to furnish in your own way because this is going to be your home.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the plan is like, hopefully like September, October comes around and I'll have like a gorgeous little fall life that low-key is not as busy and stressful as our lives have been because we've been stretched them.

Can I tell you today is technically, and I guess not even technically anymore, was like my first day off in a long time.

I know.

And it feels great.

Because you just got back from China.

And so I left for China the day after we taped Culture Awards.

Which is crazy.

And we'll get to the Culture Awards because there's so much to say in preparation for it coming out on Bravo on the 5th and streaming the next day.

Yes.

On Peacock on the 6th.

Much to say, but why don't you tell everybody about your trip?

The headline is it was so fun and it had been almost a decade since I was back.

I used to go all the time as a kid.

We would go basically every other year in the summer and I would spend like six weeks there.

And that was back when like time was just a little bit more available to everybody like in the family.

And, you know, now everyone's grown up and, you know, Yang has a family.

I have my working life, which is, you know, kind of packed to the gills.

And I'm very fortunate about that.

But

I'm also realizing like, oh, wow, like most of my summer, I mean, we're already in August and like most of our summer was all being put into one thing, which I have no regrets about, but I am like, oh, like that's where it all went.

It was like a bigger, I mean, obviously, because it was a bigger version of the way we've done it, it was a much bigger endeavor because, you know, peek behind the curtain, we kind of just look at the culture awards when we do it live, like a couple weeks before, and we just reach out to friends who are available and are sourcing videos.

But this, I don't know if you guys have seen like the content online about who was at the awards, but this was a much, much,

much different story in terms of production and getting it together.

And luckily,

we did absolutely crush.

and we ate tour and more.

But again, getting to that in a second, like more highlights from the trip like like i feel like you posted some of the most beautiful photos i've ever seen oh my god a girl well that's my eurico gr3 x shout out

is that the camera that's the camera yeah really good that anyone can use oh yeah are you telling the the the readers i'm oh but what do you mean that anyone can use like anyone can come borrow your camera or you mean it's the ease of use and the ease of use is what i'm saying idiot proof it's idiot if i can take a pretty picture with it then you can you know what i mean Yeah, yeah, no.

I know.

It was so beautiful.

And

we, there's this ritual in

Chinese culture of sweeping the tomb, quote unquote.

Sweeping the tomb.

It's, yeah, Sao Mu.

And it's, you go and you basically like clean and you maintain like the burial site or the grave or, you know, whatever.

And so my grandparents are buried all the way out in the like ancestral burial grounds of like the Yang family.

Wow.

And this, this is like generations of

farmers and

people whose worlds are

both expansive and that they literally live in like the feigned grassy fields of inner Mongolia.

Like they are like the pride of China.

Like these are truly like cinematic panoramic Windows XP

coded.

Screensaver vibes.

Screensaver vibes.

Like they're gorgeous and yeah like multiple many generations of yang families there's like a lot of bodies is there a plot for you there is not really a plot for me and i think well then they've lost the plot

bury my girl somewhere great yes i want bury my girl at scream saver yeah

atmospheres bury my heart at wounded knee now now now now but no i'm like i think my dad so my dad my parents are both like i think we think we want to um we'll be cremated and and we'll be like buried in the States.

Okay.

Or like we'll spread their ashes somewhere when, you know, if that, if it comes to that.

Oh, wow.

So you're going to, you're going to be spreading.

Girl, are we, are we at the age now where we have to like write our wills out?

I thought about it.

I thought about it.

I definitely thought about it on this trip.

And I turned to my mom.

I was like, my parents have their wills done.

And like, I remember a few years ago, like Yang and I had to sort of like look at the wills.

Yeah.

I think I remember you told me this.

And it was just, it was a totally normal thing.

It was just like, shit, this is like a thing that i mean i'm lucky that i haven't had to like my thing is like i haven't dealt with a huge profound grief in my life yeah i think about this a lot and when the time comes like i really don't know

how trans it will be transformative no doubt i am kind of like what am i gonna be

I think about this.

I mean, that's one of the reasons I don't get a dog.

Oh, it's honestly like, I we have to talk about the dogs.

Okay, But we will talk about the dogs because this has become a real narrative.

And it is.

If you and I both got, not to skip ahead, but if you're not, if you and I both got dogs.

I don't think, I think you are ready for it and set up for it in a way that I am not.

But you're about, you're, you're on, you're in the process of getting set up for it.

I'm in the process of getting set up as a home for myself.

I don't know.

So this is honestly my, my issue.

And it

has to do with the thing about you just said about grief too, is it's like, I think all the time about how, and I hate even putting this energy out there, but I have thought about my will recently.

I don't know.

I was the one who brought it up, but yeah, go.

Yeah, but like, I was thinking about it as recently as yesterday.

So it's funny that you say that.

And I don't know if that's having to do with, you know, just getting older or just to be transparent, having more money now that I would want to go to my sister.

You know what I mean?

I also don't know and I don't deny that it has something to do with the fact that like shit is dark.

You know what I mean?

Like yesterday we were taping colbert and there was a shooting right around the corner and um

you know like to say nothing of like the rest of the state of the world which you know let's leave that there for now but regardless like i get so overwhelmed by

things that have nothing

comparable in terms of stakes with death and real things.

Like if I got a dog, I genuinely feel like if it coughs weird, if it's sick,

I'm gonna lose my shit.

Like, I think it's why I can't have children.

It's not because it's a selfish decision.

I simply think like I might care too much.

And that sounds like a backhanded compliment.

It's, I promise you, it's not.

I think it's pathetic of me.

No.

But, like, I mean, like, even just like.

Just I'm having like a journey this year.

And I think last year too, just like really examining my anxiety and how to control it can get.

And, you know,

I don't think I'm equipped emotionally to care for something at this time that much.

Like that's really where I'm at.

Like when you talk about like not being able to handle grief, like I wouldn't be able to handle it at all.

I have a deep fear of what happens when that happens.

Is your anxiety a fixed point to you?

Like, do you feel like you can

to be honest with you?

You know, it's like a lot of times like these things are also superpowers for you.

You know what I mean?

It's like, I feel like my anxiety, like it's been something that makes me overprepared.

I think it makes me something that jumps into action.

I think it makes me something that's very, makes me somebody who's very generative in terms of ideas and, you know,

very

equipped for what we do.

You know what I mean?

In terms of being entertainers and doing what we do.

But I will say, like, there is a, there is another side to it, like a darker side to it that really comes at my expense.

And I'm going to start engaging with my psychiatrist again about potentially figuring something out.

Because I've really,

you know, just transparently, like, I'm so proud of what we did with the culture awards.

So proud.

But it took me a second to calm down.

Like during the process, like I was very

like, and we had an amazing team helping us, as you know, like, and you're going to see the results, but like, I was nervous.

Well, you were nervous within the boundary of yourself.

You were like, am I going to be able to deliver on all of these ideas that we spent like, you know, the last six weeks or so just like coming up with?

Cause, you know, it was also a very disorienting thing for me where I was not used to, I'm used to just like shedding the skin of an idea, bringing an idea to conception within a week and then just like letting it go.

Right.

Like I've had so many reps of that.

And I realized that like I was very specially equipped for that process in terms of scaling it up for the culture awards and I feel like I but I still feel like I was kind of out of my depth by the end I was like oh this is a lot it was a lot and you and I both have very different responses to that kind of overwhelm and so sorry and this just just just to let's keep talking about your response no no no no I just mean like I have an anxious response to stress

and it was

it no you know what honestly it was and you guys are going to see this in the show so there is um we do a big opening yes and um does does it still read as big because i have not seen the on it still does it read as big it's really on camera okay okay it is really good and i have to say like we will talk more specifically about what this is and i understand we're dangling a carrot but that is also fine because i i and also bowen i'm sure we really want you guys to tune in and tell everyone about this because

it is it is the culture awards like turned all the way up and by the way the shit that they let us get away with i truly feel like we were we scammed our way into doing this because so much of the blue sky which is like what they call the phase at the beginning of a creative process is in that show so much of it like very lucky shout out to nbc bravo and peacock for really and i do think it's a credit to you and the foundation that you've created there just in terms of like how much they trust you and the vibes were so great and they let us do all this stuff But just to speak about the thing that made me the most nervous, it is an opening number that is certainly an homage to someone in culture.

And I think that I had been, I don't love dancing and doing choreo and stuff.

I absolutely love singing, as you guys all know.

I'm so good at it.

Like, I love it.

I feel confident doing it.

But when it comes to

choreography, especially iconic choreography or that which references iconic choreography, I don't even need to be in front of everyone I've ever met and everyone I would ever know

to be nervous.

The audience was crazy.

No, it's like the one thing that I didn't realize was going to happen, which of course it was going to, was the seat cards.

Like, you know, so those are all your heroes and friends.

Literally,

but we're rehearsing in the space, like the number, doing the whole show.

And they've got the seat cards on the seats, which is the headshots of everyone that's going to be in the audience.

Yeah.

And I was like, this is not normal.

No.

This is not

normal.

But I will say, like, it happens to tend to be, I'll freak out like day weeks and days before.

And then the day of, I actually feel quite confident.

And I will say, once we got through the number and we did it well.

During the show, on the day.

After that, I felt incredible.

Yes, that's where I could, I could feel the shift.

I was just like, oh my god we did it i did not the hard part's over i didn't like eat it in front of literally the world yes and um

again like i just

like after that and once the show started and it was like our goofy frankenstein nightmare like you know award show happening i was just like wow it's playing it's going well like this bizarre hollywood puzzle slash chess game slash keys to the car we were given Like it was all panning out.

Yeah.

And then I was relaxing, but I guess this is what I mean is it's like, there's got to be a better way for me to treat myself in preparation for these things.

I wouldn't beat yourself up too much about it because I think this is also something that you will develop a thicker skin and expectation and

you'll just know.

It's like your first time doing

not for nothing, one of the hardest things in entertainment, which is to quote unquote host an award show, even though we're doing like a funny, frivolous, parodied version of it, we still put it like our body and our mind can't really tell the difference.

No, when we're up there, I'm talking about you and me.

When we're up there doing like what is still a kind of thankless job, you know what I mean?

We just had the extreme benefit and fortune of having our

beautiful, wonderful, hilarious, clever, loving fans there?

That's just the main difference.

It's like in the room, it feels so much better than a Stuffy Award show where everyone is taking themselves so seriously and like their careers are on the line or whatever.

It was like this crazy, well, Darcy Cardin, I think, said it best.

We were backstage and she had come off stage doing her bit, which she does with Joel Combooster, which I cannot wait for you guys to see.

But she came back and she was like, it's like a bitch show.

She's like, it's like a UCB bitch show.

DCN, Douglas Marathon, bitch show.

And so for those of you who maybe don't really know what that is, it's like there was an whole era, and it's not over, but it's not like it was where when we were coming up in comedy in New York, like you'd go to, I don't know, UCB East or wherever,

and it would just be like

an hour or so of just whatever the show was, everyone coming up and doing a four or five minute stupid fucking bit, new character, trying things out, et cetera.

And this was like a version of that blown all the way out with like truly,

and I can't say enough, like our heroes.

Like,

I mean, you've, you've seen the carpet, so you know that some people are there.

So, I, it's not a spoiler for me to say that Kristen Wigg does the show, to say that Keenan is in the show, to AD Bryant, you know, and the list goes on and on.

I don't want to cross into a place where I start to ruin it, but like, I, I just feel so lucky that people wanted to play with us and that we were trusted to do that.

And so overjoyed that it came out as well as it did because it was a lot.

Yes.

Like, yeah, I, because, cause I got to say, going to China right after the awards, I can't imagine.

It was like, it was both like good and not so good in terms of processing what that experience was because I didn't really unpack it with anyone except I didn't get a chance to do that until last night when you and me and and uh our manager olivia were together after colbert we were just like i was like oh yeah wow and like just learning about the dynamic and yes we had an amazing team of people shout out to lauren mandel jane munn city green celestia and frank gillespie olivia rep Lauren Lemieux yeah all of Lionsgate which worked with us on the show and you know also you know just Katie Hockmeyer truly Jen Neal thank you guys so much like and and like I just

oh Jen Proctor, we love you, which had booked the show for us.

And honestly, over 50 talent in the show, which is, which, you know, that number, if that doesn't mean anything to you, I felt like it was having 50 hosts.

Yeah.

50 SNL hosts in one in one night.

It was, it was crazy.

It did feel like

SNL 50, like kids.

A little, like, yeah, like, you know what I mean?

SNL 50 Jr.

Yes, yes, yes.

Kind of the vibe it was giving.

I'll never forget, like, the, I think it was that night.

Someone had posted like a string out of everyone on the purple carpet.

uh-huh and you're i was just like i can't believe that that happened

and um you know lots of really fun different personalities like how funny and truly like

just the collision of

like everyone on that on that carpet and then it getting like actual media coverage which is also part of the joke and the bit of the whole thing like watching someone serve on the lost culture assess culture awards carpet is just so funny because what is happening Right.

You're like, wait, why are you talking about that?

But no, this is, we're not like, wait, huh?

Like, we're being perceived.

No, it's, it's just, it's just funny because again, and we, and we say this in the show, spoiler alert, it's like this started out as a bit.

Yeah.

And so

thank you for being along for the journey and helping us sort of blow it out to this scale for now.

And who, who knows what will come of it in the future.

And we never would have even,

this is honestly something that like, it wasn't even like when we started it and created it, like, oh, this is going to be something that we pitch one day.

It was entirely because you all like expressed a desire to want to see it when you lined up at Lincoln Center and some of you got turned away because at the time we just didn't think there was any way that a surplus of people would come to see us live.

You know what I mean?

Like, but it was really because we wanted to bring this to you and share this thing that's become such a crucial part of the Lost Cults calendar year.

It just felt wrong to not do everything we could to bring it to everyone.

Also, because we're really proud of it in terms of like, you know, what it is doing.

And so you're exactly right.

After that first year where people were turned away, we were like, wait, wait, wait.

No, it doesn't feel right.

This needs to be literally broadcast.

And so from that year on, and that's why like.

There was no live stream the second year, the third year, we couldn't technically do it without weird like legal and clearance issues and so then there were fan live streams from the audience which we were like unofficially like sanctioning and being like this is okay um hopefully it delights people externally and um you know tune in all we ever do all we ever hope really is to externally delight it's actually really cojo number eight all we ever hope to do is externally delight um external delights is a kind of a front runner for title

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Should we talk about some culture?

Like, yeah, I think I'm, I must say I'm a little behind or I'm playing catch up because I watched a lot of stuff on the plane because my internet was on the Fritz in China.

Wish tell us a little bit about what you watched.

I watched

a lot of movies for the first time that I feel like should be like, should have been there.

Let's talk about it.

No, no, no.

I don't know.

Why are you ashamed?

I'm ashamed.

And I also like didn't, I still have to finish this movie that I was talking to, I was telling you about last night.

You don't want to share?

I don't want to share.

Okay.

So there is a, there's a classic film, many would say one of the best of all time, or whatever, you know, rubric that's based on, but it is pretty objectively called that

that Bowen is talking about.

And he'll finish the film.

Yes.

And then we will talk about it.

And then we will talk about it.

And then at which time I will reveal I also haven't seen it.

Oh, yes.

So I'm just saying, you're not alone in this.

You have a sisterhood.

We should see it together.

Okay, fine.

We should finish it together.

Okay.

Because

this is a kind of like calling back to the era of I had never seen sound of music, you had never seen Jaws.

And now we, it's another movie that neither of us had.

Now it's a movie that neither of us.

It is a movie on that level.

Yes, of course.

So, so you've been watching a lot of films.

Well, a lot of films.

Are you behind on the Bravo of it all?

I'm caught up on on miami and oc um i'm also caught up on oc i have not i have not watched next gen nyc beyond the first episode it's not for me i don't think all good um a rooting for everybody

for everybody we love everybody in the words of mariah

for everybody um

and

i

uh finished the pit on the plane home final what is your deal with the pit i love it because i can't you know i can't do that there it's it's pretty gory

there's moments of there's moments of whoa I can't believe they're, I can't believe we're seeing this.

Yeah.

But it's excellent.

Excellent performances.

Noah Wiley King.

Noah Wiley being back.

Well, he doesn't wear scrubs in this, huh?

He technically has scrubs and he has a hoodie over it, Dr.

Robbie.

But it's just so wonderful.

Oh, what a, what a great, Dr.

Robbie.

What a, what a king.

Yeah.

Dr.

Robbie has a name.

It is his name.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dr.

Robbie.

You are smiling.

I love him.

I love him.

Have you ever told him this?

No.

Would you?

I'm sure.

You know, today i'm a little anxious because it's when it comes to speaking about shooting your shot with celebrities yes i haven't seen our hot ones versus i think it's about to go up is it about to go up i think it's going up today at some point i know it's going up today and you shoot a shot in the they were one of the things was like shoot a shot in real time like one of the things was like shoot your shot in real time with a celebrity and then bone was like sebastian stan and i'm like no i don't want to eat a wing because they really were hot right and i was like i'm gonna do this for real oh yeah i know I admire you for that.

And so I shot a shot that I've, that I've, I've

a crush of mine for

a decade, 15 years,

which was, which was Mr.

Groff.

Love.

And the thing is, like, that spitter.

Me in the second row with my mouth open.

No, just kidding.

I want to be respectful.

Slashed down.

Ish.

But no, I was really shy afterwards.

I was like, oh, no.

And I had already asked them to take one thing out because I

got a little carried away and

I was like, yeah, take that out.

So I was like, I'm not going to go back and ask them to edit this out, but it's out there.

That's okay.

It's out there.

It's okay to shoot your shot sometimes.

Sometimes it is.

And I was like, you know, and it could work very well work.

The wings were really hot.

They were very hot.

Should we reveal what the next day was like?

We were sick.

I had a harder time doing verses

sort of GI-wise than I did regular hot ones.

Do you want to know why?

why?

It's the last dab.

Because it was last dab all the way around.

Yes.

So basically, the way that that show works is there's six wings in front of you that I guess are the six questions or rounds.

And they're all

last dab, which is the 10th wing in the hot one sequence.

So it follows, it's two after Dabom, which is like a life ruin.

Dabom is like, Dabom is what is like, scorches the earth.

And last dab, it's like, it's a soft-ish landing, but it's still very intense.

But the, like, I would rather have the progression than full last stab, full blast.

Yeah, that's the thing is it was like, I was like, oh, I was even talking shit at the, at the top being like, this is not that bad as it's usually, but there is a build.

No, it adds up.

And I felt not good the next day.

But I think you did better than I did.

In terms of how I felt.

In terms of how you felt.

I do think that, and if I might say, my stomach has a little more fortitude than yours.

Yes.

And I, first of all, I don't think so, honey, ever ever being like, Bowen's going to win.

Yeah.

Like, don't talk about my friend like that.

That is them just assuming that you are going to be more poised in general.

Right.

I think that with love, y'all really assume I'm some sort of freak or a mess.

And

I see you.

I see you talking about me this way.

I see what your opinions of me are.

You did come to my mind when I was eating crab in Dandong, which is a harbor harbor town and known for their seafood, and I was trying to break this crab open and I was like,

Matt would do this so, so well.

Well, I'm a trained crab, so I'm sort of the Noah Wiley in the pit of crabs.

You know what I mean?

I sort of break them open, crack them open, go in the corner after I've worked really hard and save lives out there, and I just sob to myself,

get my Eminom.

I wonder if 10 years ago I would have felt that way.

Because now it's like spicy foods, it's different.

Roller coasters, it's different.

Which really vulnerable for you to admit.

Honestly, it's...

You used to be a coaster queen.

I'll just never forget who I used to be.

She used to be mine.

Like, I used to be that girl that was like, I just talked about this actually on,

well, I don't even know if it's announced because

I shouldn't say it, but a friend of ours.

two friends of ours have a new podcast and we were talking about

just doing roller coasters and being like a daredevil and stuff.

Like when I was little, I used to like be the guy talked about this on this podcast.

I jumped out of a plane, et cetera.

I do one or two roller coasters in a row now, and it's a full wrap biologically.

Well, physically.

To be fair, the last time you felt this was when we had to ride the Stardust Racer Stardust Racers twice, two times within like five minutes.

Right after we shot hot ones.

Right after we shot.

Oh, was do you remember that?

Oh,

I can't.

I think it was literally, it was, we, we had shot hot ones, then the next day got on the plane to go down there and did the roller coasters.

Or yes, that's what it was.

Yeah, right.

We shot hot ones a while ago.

Yes, they, they really banked that episode.

And I was like, when is this going to come out?

And now it's obviously come out at the perfect time.

Right, right.

But

like

that, that week, that like week and a half when we were flying down doing the roller coasters and then doing hot ones in the same week, that was, that was a test of the stomach.

And I think I had to go.

I went to Wicked after

Stardust, after Epic Universe.

You went to Wicked?

Oh.

Oh, I.

Oh, no, no, no.

We can say.

We can say.

You did reshoots.

We did reshoots for Wicked.

Oh, oh, right.

Hold on.

Let me look this up.

Okay.

Hot ones.

Yeah, look at the calendar.

I'm almost positive that it was like

May 19.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that was

two days after the SNL finale.

Yep.

Oh, yeah.

I remember this.

And then we did

Epic Universe.

And then I went to, oh my God, I went to London, England to do Ricket Reshoot.

No,

sometimes you look back at your own schedule and you're like, what?

There was one.

I'm telling you, this is my first day off in months.

And this is technically work, even though we don't think of it as work, especially these episodes.

And by the way, I do think that we're going to make a conscious effort to just be us for a while.

Like,

I genuinely do feel like I'm going through some sort of new return to Saturn.

Like, interesting.

Cause it's,

is this a thing that I'm talking about?

Am I making it up?

Get someone to do another chart reading for you.

Am I making it up that like there's something to like every seven years?

I don't know.

Because it feels like 35, 28, 21, 14, and seven are like times of awakening.

Like, I feel like seven years old is when my, honestly, when my eyes opened up to like what culture was for me

because of the titanic of it all and like all that.

14 was like certainly like I remember being that age and being like that was like eighth into ninth grade which was horrible and like you know another change 21 is obviously you're 21 so much so much things become available to you like etc

like kind of like settling into my body as like a gay person 28 is obviously returned to saturn like etc and now i feel like at 35 again i'm like

looking at my life in a certain way and being like, okay, I've been in denial about this.

This makes me happy.

This does not.

This person has a belonging.

This person no longer does.

Like,

I don't.

Are you in that place?

Yeah.

Because obviously, you know,

changes.

It's yes.

I am certainly in that place, but I am also not 35 yet.

Well,

we're going to have a good birthday for you.

The versus is up.

The versus is up.

No, that's that's weird.

No, we'll watch it after.

We'll watch it after.

But, okay, well, that's fun.

That's fun.

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My computer just crashed, you guys.

What's the astrology on that?

I think it means we have to do it.

I don't think so, honey.

It does.

Wait, but I did want to ask you, have you seen Superman yet?

Yes.

Oh, my God.

I loved that movie.

So much fun.

Brazi and I mean

Mr.

Cornsweat.

Has the world found its hottest person?

I forgot who posted this on socials, but they were like, I love that

the PR for this movie, the campaign for this movie is just look at how hot this guy is.

And I love how much it's going to work.

And it did.

Oh, it absolutely worked on me.

And also, one thing I think that movie needs to get more credit for is that long scene between Clark and Lois.

Like it was like a really long scene of just dialogue.

It was like 2 minutes.

It was a dialogue.

Yeah.

And I was like, they're both so good.

And Rachel is just like, what a star.

She's such a star.

And we love her so much.

And just the really intelligent back and forth they were having like early in this movie.

And then, you know, the rest of it just being so kind of just like unabashedly about going for the joke.

A couple of times I was like, wow, we are really broad.

But I never was mad.

I was just like, this is the energy we need.

No.

Just that whole scene of them also with like the alien in the background.

I was like, yeah, I loved that.

Loved that.

Like, it reminded me of like scary movie three.

Yeah, naked gun-esque movies, which I'm really excited to see.

So excited.

I think this is my favorite James Gunn, actually, because you know, famously, we did not live for Guardians, right?

Um, but

we've said on the podcast, we have to.

This was years and years and years ago.

Bowen Yang and I walked out of Guardsman.

We've walked out of two films together in history, and they were

First Guardians and Oppenheimer.

Owen Oppenheimer, oppenheimer right and directors who we love directors we absolutely love or else we wouldn't have been there exactly so but the thing is um this superman movie i was just like wow like really i could feel and i really liked his suicide squad too i liked his suicide squad too yeah i just like really like his sense of humor and i thought it worked really well here

and um

yeah i mean incredibly incredibly hot and talented lead actor playing superman like let's go he's actually the inspir for my haircut currently.

Oh, I sat down in the chair with Thomas O.

I see it.

In Hollywood, baby.

Shout out.

And I said, corn sweat.

Oh my God.

Is that how you pronounce it?

I feel like the E is the first E is silent.

Corn sweat.

It's like, it's like if corn would could sweat.

That is hot.

Corn sweat.

It could be, it could be a hot.

It's not the hottest last name there is.

What is

Smith?

Wait, I was going to say Smith.

I was literally like, is she about to say Smith?

I said John Smith.

But I also, it's also the most generic.

You need to examine that.

No.

You're colonized.

You have colonized, by the way.

In our devastation, thinking that we had lost an episode because of Matt's audio, Matt's computer crashed, we watched, we watched our hot ones versus.

We cheered ourselves up by watching our hot ones versus.

We love it.

It's so fun.

First refeece team, great.

They talk about going for the joke.

They get it.

They get it.

A team who gets it.

So deeply over there.

We love them and we love doing it.

And even though we felt sick after, that's part of it.

No, and it was worth it.

And so we each ate four.

We each ate two.

We each ate two.

No, I think there was two left.

No, we only ate, no, we each ate two wings.

Girl, I don't know.

You watch it back.

And you can too.

On YouTube.

On YouTube at First Wee Feast.

Okay.

Okay, so maybe it's time for...

I'm trying to think.

Of course, there's like more things in culture that we missed.

I mean,

Ghillane is getting interviewed, I guess, right now, now, huh?

Remember our episode about Ghylaine?

One of our best.

One of our best.

And now she's like back.

What is going on?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean,

we have theories, but we can't get it.

I have so many theories.

I've actually become quite the little conspiracy theorist about the whole thing.

Look,

this was all where it was headed.

You know, like we're all conspiracy theorists now, and the left needs its own

cue.

The left needs its own cue.

And I'm happy.

Maybe it's us.

We would be amazing cues.

We would be amazing cues.

We'd be incredible.

We'd be kind of fun cults.

Yeah.

We kind of do.

Right.

And thank you, all you cultists out there.

Should we just really do away with our PKPFs and just say our RKPFKs?

See, this is what I'm saying.

It's getting too...

I was trying to lump Kyles into the Katies.

I'm not here to say I told you so, but.

You can't put the genie back in the bottle because the genie is out flexing his big muscles.

And that's Kyle.

i'm not hearing from enough kyles so that's i'm gonna say you're on the shopping block i'm gonna invisibilize kyles until they prove otherwise to me can you guys please kyle should be in bowen yang's dms being nice

okay not prescriptive no it's fine not judgmental only nice it's fine okay so this is i don't think so honey yep it's our time it's our moment in the in the um in the episode to sort of rant and rail against something in pop culture or culture at large I'm going to be attacking culture at large.

Okay.

And this is something that, you know, it's one of my vices requires me to do something and I'm having a problem doing it.

Okay.

This is Matt Rogers.

I don't think so, honey, his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, the packaging on weed.

Like, you can't open these things.

What kind of weed?

I'm talking about like pre-rolls that you would get at like an official weed store, like one of those Apple stores for weed in LA.

I don't think so, honey, the way that they sell this stuff.

Also, by the way, this, i'm not even going to say what it is because i don't want the brand to feel embarrassed

this is hard to open once you get the hang of it like i'm telling you edibles pre-rolls like i i haven't even really engaged in anything they're child proofing yeah it's child proofing but in in the child proofing you've also matt rogers proofed it and that is going to happen when you child proof you're going to also matt rogers proof and i am Your grown ass fingers.

Let me tell you something.

I can't open.

It's not as simple as squeezing the sides and then popping the top.

But it has to be because that's what you've said will do the trick.

But it doesn't do the trick.

Me and Melissa were banging our heads against the walls trying to smoke some indica.

Oh, and I'm like, babe, I'm on the other planet of stress now.

I really need it.

I don't think so, honey.

And that's one minute.

Rita's, if you feel me, please reach out and tell me that I'm not crazy and alone in this because the packaging on marijuana has become restrictive.

Criticize him.

Criticize me, please.

No, honestly, if I'm an idiot, if I'm an idiot, tell me.

But I also don't think I am because I had a

witness there in Melissa, and we were really, we could not open.

No, she can do anything.

She can do it all.

Yeah.

You know how frustrating it is to be there, a full-grown human, alongside someone who can do it all, and neither of you can do a thing.

I didn't mean to doubt you.

I just.

No, because I mean, the next time I have a problem, I'll just FaceTime you and show you.

Because, like.

But no, I ran into this recently.

I bought a pre-roll package and I was like, okay, all right.

It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays.

It's like getting into Fort Knox.

It's like, it's full of culture number 18.

It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays.

You have an I don't think so, honey?

Um,

yeah, although I don't, I can't, I'm gonna find it as I go.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, here we go.

That is a way to do things.

Okay, great.

Um, this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, on the culture, not knowing where we have landed on the laboo boo versus lefufu discourse it seems like now we're favoring lefufus more because we are you know we see laboo boos as this artificial scarcity you know example and why are we gatekeeping you know this trend from so many people but at the same time now it seems like we've overcorrected into the lefufus where we like are kind of putting more value in the lefufu because they're fake and because they're knockoffs but you can't knock off a culture that has thrived on knockoffs for decades at this point.

I'm talking about China.

They will beat us at this game.

Laboobus will emerge as the victor.

15 seconds.

I, for the longest time, was resisting the Laboo Boo craze.

And I finally went to the place of origin.

And I thought, well, I walked into a pot mart and I went.

This is glorious.

And I'm seeing the people shake the boxes because they can tell by the weight and the feel which ones are different.

And I'm like, this is a turn I want to be on board for.

and that's one minute so we found out yesterday that the way you can tell a lefufu from a laboobu is the number of teeth

yes i said this is crazy it's biological it's biological i i think this is filling the void in my heart a lot of healing happened on this trip that that's the other headline and i you have perspective you heal yes and you know whatever blah blah blah blah like all the trips prior to this one were about me like being in the closet and staying in the closet and i didn't necessarily come out to anyone on this trip, but

the way I was being discussed on China's social media made it very apparent to the people who were on social media, to my family members who were on social media.

And I was like, you know what?

I kind of like it this way.

Yeah.

That I didn't have to broach the subject.

External delights.

External delights.

But if this also healed for me,

was never allowed to have a single beanie baby growing up.

This was my dad with Tamagotchis.

Interesting.

He was like, why would I get you that?

You have a dog.

Well, period.

I mean, can't really argue with that, but it was devastating.

Of course.

And you couldn't have a beanie baby.

Couldn't have a beanie baby.

What was their reasoning for that?

They were like,

these are going to be all over the house.

Like, literally.

So when we moved to the States, we would go into like open houses and go to look at people's houses in Colorado and suburban Colorado.

And we'd be, you know.

Yang and I would freak out.

I remember there was one room.

There was one kid's room full of beanie babies.

And we were like, oh my God, mom and dad, look at how many beanie babies they have.

They go, no way.

That is grotesque.

Not at my home.

Not in my home.

You're not having those fucking things in our house.

See, I think, so they saw an example of an extreme.

Yes.

And they went, we're not touching.

I mean, it was this, it was just austerity and it's, it's immigrant parents.

And I totally, I don't begrudge them of that.

I just think all these years later, I had to heal that child.

Yeah.

You need to be a little bit more.

My mind was my labuboo and I love my laboo boo.

Can you show your laboo?

I've got one labuboo here.

I've got the blue one.

Oh, that's really good.

I've got that.

And then another one came in.

I'm going to, I'm.

That is good.

Okay.

So I have not really engaged in labo boofu foo culture.

Do you want my laboo?

I have another labuboo.

I don't think, no, you take it because I feel like if I want, if I want one, I will pick, I will find the labooboo for me.

But

how much is it?

It depends.

Okay, well, talk about that.

I think if you go on stockx.com, you can buy one for like 40 bucks.

And what's what's an example of an expensive laboo boo?

Like, if you want to, like, really, like, go for, I don't know, the premium ones, it could go like 100, 200.

Okay.

Yeah.

See, I thought it was so out of control that we were talking like a couple thousand dollar labooboos.

No, no.

See, I, but that's the thing is it's like.

With things like this that become a fashion accessory, like, where is the ceiling on what people would pay for that?

Like, you have to imagine, like,

you know, for some people, there probably is no ceiling ceiling if you love it that much wait you said the lafufus can't turn their head around the labuboo can turn its head around I just turned it well maybe you have a lafufu no

I count nine teeth and that is the real number that's nine that's nine all right I have another one.

I have another one in my room.

He's going to get the other labuboo and we're actually going to count the teeth right now to find out if it's real or not.

This is a huge thing in culture and this is Las Culturista.

So if you are already at max with the labuboo of them, by the way, like

this is really good.

In two seconds, these are going to be out of style.

We're going to look like this.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

So this is real.

And then can you turn its head around?

I think

they can all have their heads turned around.

This one doesn't turn around.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, by the way, I don't want to snap its head off.

Because this is what?

I don't know what you paid for it.

I don't want to ask you what you paid for it.

But like, by the way, this one is cute.

Maybe I will take this one.

Take her.

Would you gift it to to me?

Yes.

You don't want to give it up.

No, that's yours.

This is mine.

Yes.

I think that's a real thing.

Okay, we're going to take a photo with our boo-boos, and that's going to be the episode.

External delights.

Yes.

This has been an internal delight in terms of the people that make and create Las Culturistas, Boen Yang and myself.

And we have to say one more time that the Las Culturistas Culture Awards are on August 5th on Bravo.

Surreal thing to say.

We are going to be, you know, on Watch What Happens Live on Monday night, and we're going to be chatting with the man himself, Andy Cohen, who does factor into the show along with a lot of your faves.

And

yeah, it's Dreams the Next Down Peacock.

Anything you want to say to prime the readers and more?

Because maybe they should just be called that, Readers and More.

Readers and Moore.

Interesting.

Well, we can't, we can't.

Now you're really trying to put the junior back in the bottle.

I think it will be out of this world.

That's a hint.

That's a hint.

Okay, well, you guys are some laboohoos out there.

And all you lafoofus, we can tell.

We end every episode with a song.

Don't close my eyes.

I don't want to fall asleep.

Cause I miss you, babe.

And I don't want to miss a thing.

For more of that, watch the culture awards.

Bye.

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Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becca Ramos.

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