“Treasures Untold” (w/ Matt + Bowen)

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Speaker 31 Ding dong. Las culturistas call.
I really just watched your fingers on the countdown. And don't you do that every time?

Speaker 31 I was really like intent on watching the finger countdown because you know BTS, everybody, Bowen Yang famously, every single episode counts three, two, one with his fingers.

Speaker 31 But this time I was just like really focused on it. Hypnotic for later.
The eye of the dog. The eye of the dog.

Speaker 31 Speaking of, we are recording this on Matt's first day back in the hallowed halls of 30 Rock at the Today Show.

Speaker 31 I was at the Today Show today. We're recording this on Monday.
And we really didn't get into it last week. We just kind of said there was a thing with dogs.
But

Speaker 31 this is what's been happening. So

Speaker 31 badass,

Speaker 31 what are they called? Badass Animal Rescue.

Speaker 31 Badass Animal Rescue, this amazing company that's like fostering dogs and helping them get fostered, helping them get adopted in Brooklyn, has named two dogs, Boen Yang and Matt Rogers.

Speaker 31 Wow. And they are angelic.
Yes. And it is truly every, whenever they post, I feel I have to repost because we have to get these dogs home.
I know, no. And they're just angels.
They're from Alabama.

Speaker 31 Yeah,

Speaker 31 they're rescued from Alabama. So this company, Badass, they hire dogs from high kill shelters and, you know, bad situations.
Did I say that? They hire them? They, I rescue them.

Speaker 31 If I said they hire them, what they do is they hire the dogs.

Speaker 31 No, and so there's Bo and Yang and a Matt Rogers, a husky mix. That's Bo and Yang.
Then there's a hound mix that's Matt Rogers.

Speaker 31 And they brought Matt Rogers, the dog, to the Today Show today in Surprised.

Speaker 31 He was such a good boy. I do think you need to think about it.

Speaker 31 Not to pressure you on, Mike. No, I'm thinking about it.
Because then there was another one you loved. Dabby Wendy.
Explain her. She is a feist.

Speaker 31 She has perky little ears, gorgeous,

Speaker 31 wide-set eyes.

Speaker 31 It's giving Dabby. It's giving Emma Stone.
It's giving, you know, Hannah Taylor joy. Wow, a beautiful ingenue dog.

Speaker 31 No, she is an ingenue.

Speaker 31 And look, no dibs, anyone in Brooklyn? Or who wants to come pick these dogs up from Brooklyn? Please, just, just, just, just give these dogs forever homes.

Speaker 31 All I want is for them to get adopted, but I will say I told them someone just cracked open their

Speaker 31 beverage.

Speaker 31 Their refresco, as it were.

Speaker 31 One of the best words for refreshments, refresco

Speaker 31 um spanish yeah

Speaker 31 i deeply want these dogs to just be adopted but i will say i knew it was going to be dangerous i laid eyes on that dog and i was like oh you have to be in my life you have to be in my life so i i'll i think i would like to be the dog's godfather

Speaker 31 i would have to rename him you couldn't have a dog named matt rogers you don't i don't think so What about Junior?

Speaker 31 What about, hey, Junior? Well, speaking of Junior, we have to talk about a play in which this figures heavily into

Speaker 31 y'all. Y'all, okay, hold on.
Maybe you saw the best play. I've one of my favorite plays I've ever seen.
Yeah. We're talking about purpose.
Purpose.

Speaker 31 And more to say about lost coach figuring into that lore as well. Oh, yes.
Because we got it confirmed. We got it confirmed.

Speaker 31 See, but I was also, but even like today, I was talking to someone who had seen, and he was like, I mean, that's you guys. Like, they're whatever.
There's a reference to

Speaker 31 the line. The line is she's talking about gay two intense gay podcast she was let's say

Speaker 31 she was in 50 hours of two intense what is it two really intense gay guys who are really invested in pop culture yeah and so you know it is us becauseny our producer went to the show went backstage

Speaker 31 and then met up met with brandon jacobs jenkins the phenomenal playwright of this amazing show and apparently anecdotally he has confirmed it he confirmed it so we knew we had to see the show and we are so late on this one one.

Speaker 31 Oh, we're so late. By the way, we're sort of burying the lead here.
We are going to talk about the culture awards, which are now out. Thank you for watching it.

Speaker 31 If you did, if you haven't, you can stream it right now on Peacock, which feels crazy. Crazy.
But Bowen and I were able to watch it together and we love it.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 31 you can watch it now. And so we're going to talk about it at the end.

Speaker 31 If you haven't watched it, no spoilers. We are respecting.
that backloading so that you guys can tap out and watch if you haven't already. We went to go see Purpose Finally.

Speaker 31 Well, I guess the Tony winning best play this year by Brandon Jacob Jenkins. Yes.
Directed by Alicia Rashad. Yes.
And I really didn't know what to expect. I think that was the way to go in.

Speaker 31 Obviously knew about the accolades, but I was like, I don't know what this is going to be and was

Speaker 31 really blown away. I mean, it was delighted.
It was.

Speaker 31 It started off with a genuine curiosity.

Speaker 31 And then once everything gets established, there's a lot of really important setup that happens in the first i would say hour or so of the show right and then god it really all just pays off yeah it's just like painting this gorgeous painting and then watching the painting destroy itself that it's really i mean it's i think it's loosely based on Reverend Jesse Jackson's family.

Speaker 31 This family is called the Jaspers. And it's just about like this incredibly important,

Speaker 31 prominent black family in politics and religion, and the sort of esteem they hold in their community and how that esteem is dealt with on the inside while having to project so much to the outside world.

Speaker 31 And every member of the family is dealing with some different strife in relation to their role in the family or their

Speaker 31 position in their lives.

Speaker 31 And it like you were saying when we left, like it's doing a lot. It's expansive.
It all takes place in one, in one sort of set piece. Yeah.
Just the living room of this home.

Speaker 31 The living room of this home, but it covers so much ground

Speaker 31 in terms of, as you mentioned, civil rights and religion and like sexuality and fertility and like neurodivergence and all of these things that like somehow it never gets bogged down by. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Also like misogyny within family structures

Speaker 31 in many different ways. It just took me back to family period.

Speaker 31 I was thinking about my family the entire time which you know not to center like an asian experience onto a black one but it was just like the way this is nailing family is crazy in a way that even like made me think i said to you i was like god like when i first when the show first started i was like okay this is like the felicia thing makes total sense like it's it has that sort of air of like that kind of comfort and like that family interest that like she's she's obviously known for but it's like it completely gets flipped on its head in a crazy way yeah i mean it's really one of those things where it's like, pretty much every moment is compelling and it's a constant build, which is hard to do.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 31 it started with a really long monologue by the main character. And I was sitting there and I was like, okay, is this going to be a monologue-driven show? Like,

Speaker 31 hard to sustain

Speaker 31 attention, but it was.

Speaker 31 really just a testament to just how thick and how dynamic the situation between these characters are that like, yes, of course we did have that, you know, monologue set up, but then the scenes just sang.

Speaker 31 Like really funny, really smart, really surprising. I didn't think I knew where it was going at any given moment.

Speaker 31 And there are a number of Chekhov's guns that do literally go off, but it's almost like really fascinating to watch a play know that's exactly what it's doing.

Speaker 31 It's a very smart, very contemporary play. And he also wrote Appropriate with Tara Paulson, if you guys saw that a couple seasons ago but i think one of the one of my favorite things about it was

Speaker 31 i said this to you afterwards two shows actually that we've seen in the past weekend you've seen but i've seen before use this thing to maximum effect and that is a staircase

Speaker 31 there is a staircase in purpose that several different characters when they've just had it yeah like on the first floor of the scene sort of ascend the staircase and like give it to the rest of the characters.

Speaker 31 Like it feels very dramatic. And of course, in Death Becomes Her, the staircase scene from the movie is recreated.
And I know you just saw that and probably have a ton to say. Yes.

Speaker 31 But don't sleep on the staircase as a set piece. No.
It is drama. And it's actually rule of culture number 10.
Don't sleep on the staircase as

Speaker 31 it is.

Speaker 31 I remember one of my formative theater experiences was seeing the Smoky Hill High School production of Hello Dolly,

Speaker 31 the year before I would end up going to that high school.

Speaker 31 And when to know a staircase is used to great effect in many, in many iterations of that show, but just on the tetular number of Hello Dolly, if you have, if Dolly Levi comes out on a staircase,

Speaker 31 that's all you need to do. You're jumping for joy.

Speaker 31 The rest of the show can be dog shit.

Speaker 31 And I'm happy if I see a woman as Dolly Levi doesn't have to be, doesn't have to look age appropriate.

Speaker 31 She can be in high school. She can be 95 years old as Carol Channing was

Speaker 31 in a production. But, God, it's staircases in theater.
Huge. It is major.
And don't think I haven't noticed that staircase over in the West End, Evida.

Speaker 31 At least at the end of the show, there's a staircase.

Speaker 31 And of course, we're playing with levels there because Zegler is up on the balcony giving what they're saying is one of the best performances in recent memory, which this is crazy because they just said that and were right about Jamie Lloyd's last work.

Speaker 31 So he continues to crush. I am really holding myself down in my chair to not fly to the West End and go see it there first because I'm just going to pray and hope that they get it together.

Speaker 31 But I need to see that performance. I need to see that number.
I need to see those screens. I need to see that staircase and balcony work come to Broadway.

Speaker 31 Staircases are very important. Staircases are very important.
We might have to do something with that.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 31 What do we do?

Speaker 31 I think

Speaker 31 the next Las Culturistas Culture Award. Should have a staircase.
We'll have a staircase. We did have stairs.
We did. Great stairs.

Speaker 31 I got to utilize the stairs and you kind of did for a second. Yeah.
I went down very quickly. I think we should have one on stage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 31 And that will be a huge expenditure, but I feel that it will be worth it. I would agree.
I would agree.

Speaker 31 So I just want to before we wrap up talking about purpose I just want to shout out Alana Arenas Alana Arenas because we said she played Morgan in the movie who's the the wife of the sort of disgraced eldest son and did you know this so all of the actors got 20 nominations except for her really and I said to myself

Speaker 31 Now, this is why she needs extra mention on Love's Coach because we were living for the whole cast. But especially for Alana.
She was ferocious.

Speaker 31 Well, from the first moment because they really utilize the way she's written and revealed,

Speaker 31 there's a slow drip of her and it's a powder keg, whatever, whatever mixing metaphors, but she really,

Speaker 31 really pops for us, popped for us, I guess. It was our show.
But by the way, we have to talk about that audience. Oh, yeah.
Is this part of your I don't think Sony later?

Speaker 31 See, it's not, but because I...

Speaker 31 I need a more measured way to pop off about this.

Speaker 31 This is the floor. So anyway, like these actors are tearing it up.
And what, yeah,

Speaker 31 we just have to shout out alana still before i listen i'm so sorry

Speaker 31 let me let me put a a little comma on that no literally shout shouting her out to to the high heavens and i'll tell you who else was shouting out from the audience was the audience was the audience a very engaged audience which we love no we loved here's the thing about the audience it was a mixture of like such an active crowd people really reacting to everything really fun to be there and some of the most disrespectful people i i i i'm i'm i turn around and it's only six cell phones going off.

Speaker 31 Six cell phones going off, one in our row. I have to say,

Speaker 31 you need to turn your phone off and turn that shit off. I get that maybe everyone that we're talking to right now might not be the target audience for this because I think it was elderly people.

Speaker 31 It's older people. You need to reach out to the people in your life that are going to these shows and letting you know they're going and just make sure they've got their phones off because it's crazy.

Speaker 31 They had Felicia Rashad herself getting on the god mic like like in a taped video that was like please turn off the phones they weren't even allowing snacks into this theater because of noise concerns but like they were really going the extra mile and these people are so disrespectful and if you are sick do not go to

Speaker 31 a live theatrical event if you are sick hacking up coffee hacking up alveoli

Speaker 31 god turning these lungs inside and out i i i said this to you.

Speaker 31 Really, really come after me.

Speaker 31 Obviously, this is not the right take. What's crow? But it's like, if you know for a fact that you have a coughing problem on the day,

Speaker 31 I think

Speaker 31 it's worth considering maybe not going to the theater. Retire the side.
You do not have to go. If you're hacking up coughing.
Seriously, I bet even if you called, I actually wonder about this.

Speaker 31 I wonder if you called the theater and you were like, I am infirm. Yes.
I am unable to

Speaker 31 make it to the performance because I will be a distraction and it's not a safe atmosphere. Can I get my refund and or re or, you know, can I reschedule, et cetera?

Speaker 31 Would they not do that? I feel like they would unless we really have like had such a crazy amnesia about COVID that like, that's just, that would be so unconscionable to the theaters.

Speaker 31 I really hope that there's something in place. Anyway, this is all to say like like a lot of coughing, a lot of coughing.
So much

Speaker 31 and not even being like, no, we were, we were in shock. We were, it was like every two seconds, someone was cartoonishly coughing.

Speaker 31 Because the thing about the cough is it's like, okay, I'm a little bit more lenient with that because it's like, I mean, the seats are tight.

Speaker 31 Sometimes you might think it's like you're making a whole fuss trying to get out of the seat, whatever. Like, you know, I have a little bit more grace for that.

Speaker 31 The cell phones, I have no grace for the cell phones. I have zero grace for the case.
Because these people are on stage giving it everything

Speaker 31 like and you are and it's it's always like a ring-a-ding ding whackadoodle whackadoodle time ringtone it's whackadoodle ringtone with

Speaker 31 a whackadoodle person i'm sorry yeah the people i i turned i turned to look at some of these people and i was like of course I'm sorry. No, yeah, it was very, of course, vibes because it was what?

Speaker 31 The oldest, whitest people in America coming to this play and acting disrespectful. It was crazy.
The irony there is

Speaker 31 ironic.

Speaker 31 It was just so uncomfortable and disrespectful. And it happened, I'm telling you, six times.

Speaker 31 It was the most I'd ever seen. I was like, but it's the year of our Lord 2025.
This is the Tony Award winner for best play. You couldn't even bring a snack in because of the

Speaker 31 concerns. And thank you for validating this because I felt like I was going crazy.

Speaker 31 It was actually one of those rare moments where I was like, oh, wow, this is something actionable that I can be upset about. And my upset will perhaps affect things for the better.

Speaker 31 And you were really flustered. And I was like, I just know we're going to make this part of our whole thing going forward.
Yes. Me at the sign-off of everything, turn off the phones in the theater.

Speaker 31 Turn off the phones. Yeah.

Speaker 31 This is cuckoo. Just do, do not disturb.
Don't even airplane mode. Silent has existed for

Speaker 31 18 years on the. Did Campbell vibrate even during the show? It has to be, you have to ignore the warning and keep it on the volume.
Human beings don't deserve technology as we are seeing. Right.

Speaker 31 Especially as it gets more advanced. We do need it taken away.
What say you about them being like kids can't have phones until they're 16? I do it. Totally agree.
Do it.

Speaker 31 I mean, but there's, it's really hard as a parent. I must sympathize as a parent.
I'm sure it's so hard to draw that to

Speaker 31 enforce that. But they did it before.

Speaker 31 The parents of today would say, but it's just so part of our world now that like for kids to like shield and deny kids of that up until they're 16, while like from a very, from the age of four,

Speaker 31 every screen is being shoved in front of their faces. It's like, how do you, how do you deny that? Look,

Speaker 31 I'm not saying it's going to be an easy thing to do. And then maybe this is bordering on me, you know.
you know, performing my least favorite expression, which is devil's advocate.

Speaker 31 But like, if the problem is that it's such a fixture in our world, then like you, you, you have to start like

Speaker 31 and regulating that from an early age so that like these you know little people when they become big people don't like need it and require it again i'm on record here being like i'll never be a parent i don't see it for myself i don't think it would be it would work for me so whatever is working for you but you know It's another reason it's attention spans are really zap.

Speaker 31 Right.

Speaker 31 I can't like, it's like a chicken or the egg things for me where I'm just like, well, I don't want kids for this reason because it's like, I'm, I'm going to bring someone into the world whose brain is going to be liquid by the time they're, they're, they're, they're eight years old.

Speaker 31 You know what I mean? Because of like, yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's already happening, happening to people who are fully grown. Yeah.

Speaker 31 So I'm like, I, no way, I'm not going to be responsible for an extent for like an extension of myself out in the world acting that way.

Speaker 31 And so, and this is a lot about what purpose is about.

Speaker 31 It actually is to be honest with you. It's like, it's like, I, because it is about like purpose and legacy.
Yes.

Speaker 31 It's like you create something in your legacy and then you see it when it's become a realized thing and you're like, holy fucking shit. You say that can't be my fault.
That can't be my fault.

Speaker 31 And yeah. It got me thinking though.
I was like, my purpose, the meaning that I draw from in my life is the thing that I think is the most direct panacea to despair, which is connection and community.

Speaker 31 I don't think you necessarily have to have a child or, you know, have to like check off any boxes besides just like connecting with someone.

Speaker 31 And I was like, my best friend is sitting right next to me, and my purpose is just like our friendship and just trying to like radiate that outward to people and have them be a part of that.

Speaker 31 That's my purpose. Yeah.
You know what I mean? It is kind of interesting to see something that's like, you know, about family and like anyone that is in a family or even a chosen family, I guess.

Speaker 31 Like, not really. This is really about the blood ties that bind and how that can be restricting, even if it feels elevating to everyone else.

Speaker 31 But it was interesting to watch a piece that like kind of was like arguing anti-family.

Speaker 31 And yet they, this is an example of a family that, you know, because of power and influence, like is to be able to have each other's backs in this way that,

Speaker 31 you know, maybe in the short term is helping them, but certainly in the long term is damaging their souls. Right.
On that point, exactly.

Speaker 31 Like, I think this is why we're shouting at Alona Arenas specifically, because that character does so much of the sort of clarifying work in the show in terms of like, wow, this family is really, really fucked up in terms of how it deals with outside people.

Speaker 31 And she just has a great scene in the second act in the middle of the night. That's all we'll say.
Yeah. She does have it.
She does have a line right that I think we both loved, which was,

Speaker 31 I'm about to eat this here cake.

Speaker 31 Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 31 Yes. At the same time, hilarious.
Devastating. Devastating too.
Her first line was, hello, whatever.

Speaker 31 Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, she's just, just, she's got she was phenomenal. We really are.
We're fans. We're huge fans.
We're fans.

Speaker 31 And also, shout out to Carrie Young, who won the Tony Award for this, who is her second Tony Award right in a row. She's been nominated in this category several times and like an icon.

Speaker 31 And we are very proud that you gave a performance as a reader. Yes.
I turned her mad and I go, the fact that this character is a major reader. A finalist, even.

Speaker 31 She's a reader because she, because the character is not a spoiler alert, she's a, she's a social worker.

Speaker 31 She does, she's involved in social work and she's very just aware of her community and politics and everything. Very much a reader.
Yeah, I think definitely fits the bill.

Speaker 31 If people want to know what a reader is, you got to go see Purpose. We can't explain it to you anymore.
It closes end of August. So if you have a chance to see it before then, please.

Speaker 31 Yeah, now's the time. And hopefully, you know, it tours and has a life beyond this.
I think it would be really worthwhile for people to read.

Speaker 31 It's just one of those really great new works. And now I think that kind of closes,

Speaker 31 at least for me, the new discovery John Broadway.

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Speaker 31 You finally saw death becomes her this weekend so long overdue i mean i'd heard for months and months and months like this is your kind of show i'm like i know i really

Speaker 31 know and i even saw paul like

Speaker 31 after the tonies and i was like paul i haven't seen it i'm so tired of taswell

Speaker 31 Who did the costumes for Wicked and Death Becomes her? And Death Becomes Her and a phenomenal job in both.

Speaker 31 I mean, every single person on that stage looks amazing, just like in Wicked. I'm like, oh, same, same person.
Not a single, like.

Speaker 31 Yeah, very detailed and just gorgeous down to the detail and he like if he's so good at like making people stand out in very character specific ways but also he's good at like he he says like he's good at peopling you know the space like with with odd with wicked like he does that in every like shiz emerald city wherever munchkin land so good at that of like this is a group of people and how does that look and whatever i wonder if he sits in on auditions for oh

Speaker 31 because you're kind of like when someone like paul is involved i I would imagine that it's almost like you're kind of looking at like not only dancers, but also models for your creations.

Speaker 31 And like, I really wonder about that process because he's such a huge part of why these things are as successful. Like, I wonder how creatively and producerially involved he is.

Speaker 31 I'm sure very, because I'm, because I'm, because I'm like, yeah, like. I'm referencing like the fact that like everybody on that stage, just, just everybody in that company looks phenomenal.

Speaker 31 Michael Grispa. Yeah, Mikey Grisepa.
You might know from Fire Island. We've known him for years.
He's like one of the Broadway boys. So wonderful.
He's fabulous in the show. Fabulous.

Speaker 31 He's hot as shit. Of course.

Speaker 31 And oh my God, just

Speaker 31 there's nothing I love more than comedy. Yeah.
It's so funny. It's just so funny.
And when it's when something is funny in that way, I just go, oh, thank God. Yep.

Speaker 31 I feel like I've like gotten cynical over the years, just like doing the, like being lucky enough to do the jobs that we do where we really have to like buckle down and like think about and pick apart comedy in a way way that like doesn't take the fun out of it, but just makes you like take it seriously, which is like what you have to do sometimes.

Speaker 31 But sometimes you realize that it's just about like the guttural sensation of ha, that the surprise element of wow, didn't see that coming.

Speaker 31 And sometimes it's a lot easier to see things coming when things are relying on playing emotional beats. Yes.

Speaker 31 And so something like Death Becomes Her or something else that we saw, I want you to to keep talking about death becomes her so this is moving into i think a bigger conversation which is where comedy is at and where maybe it should go and i think we are firmly in camp movement towards dumb yeah i mean if you watched the culture awards last night or are going to stream it today you'll see that we are proud to be part of the movement towards stupid bullshit yes and death becomes her is that absolutely and and i will also being like incredibly well done and executed but it's also like you know they they take a potion and they you know death becomes her.

Speaker 31 But it lives alongside like a Paul Tazwell, like

Speaker 31 highly elevated departments. Yes.
Like it lives alongside Paul Tazwell. It lives alongside Christopher Gatelli directing this.
Like everybody is at the top of their game.

Speaker 31 Chris Sieber, I thought was amazing. No, he was so good.
I loved his number. Jennifer Simard.

Speaker 31 Megan Hilty. Yeah.
Some like our two funniest motherfuckers. Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 31 I mean, like, just the duet that's happening on stage between them the whole time, to speak to say nothing of the songs that they actually do share, which are so great, but they are so perfect in this.

Speaker 31 And I know we've been fans of both of them for such a long time, but you know, even in that like crazy ass, like best actress in a musical Tony race, like I was like, you know, part of me is not going to be upset at all if one of them just sneaks from behind and takes it because I mean, that was a stacked.

Speaker 31 This is a stack of it.

Speaker 31 Truly stacked. Truly.
Like Nicole,

Speaker 31 Audra, Megan,

Speaker 31 and Jennifer. And then Miss Jasmine, Amy Rogers.

Speaker 31 Of course, I've been together. To be honest with you, like, could have been the best.
Of course. It was five great nominees.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 Samard, like, just like how confident you have to be to, like, of course, be performing out on a Broadway stage, but also throwing it away.

Speaker 31 And in contrast to the bombast that is Megan Hilty, who, by the way,

Speaker 31 reputation like precedes her in many ways and still blows it away. I know.
Still blows it away.

Speaker 31 You know, I wonder how she feels about this because I think it's so fucking cool and I think it's very aspirational and I wish like more actors could be identified this way.

Speaker 31 So many of the things that she's done, two-handers. Yep.

Speaker 31 Like between Wicked and Smash and this and like, and of course she has a huge array of other work that is singular and it's, yep, it's a, it showcases her.

Speaker 31 But I, I think that's so amazing that she, she's so comfortable sharing the bill in the space with another actor who's on the like horizontal to like lateral in terms of that kind of whatever positioning it's like i i respect the fuck out of that yeah absolutely i mean she i think i you probably first became aware of her when i did which was as like a young gay boy youtubing glinda yes and then like seeing what she was capable of then and it felt like when she booked smash when we were i guess like in college

Speaker 31 it kind of felt like I remember like reaching back to my younger gay self and being like, oh my God, Megan Hilty is on a big television show. Like we won.
We're kicking ass.

Speaker 31 And then even on that show, she was so fucking good, but so underappreciated. I know.
Like, Ivy.

Speaker 31 In terms of like giving a performance in a musical show, like no one was doing it like that. No.
And also, not that anyone was getting opportunities to do it like that, but nobody.

Speaker 31 Could do it like that.

Speaker 31 There was a few numbers that she did on that show. One called Let's Be Bad.
Let's Be Bad.

Speaker 31 Which also was then was then in some like it hot the the musical yes yes yes um but she crushed that all the big musical theater set pieces she always crushed and in death becomes her

Speaker 31 like there's that scene where she first like kind of realizes that he's moved on and she's old right right i'm like just like the way she was tearing it up and belting to god like but be but the whole thing was so stupid i was like is this what made me want to do comedy in the first place i think kind of you know what i mean?

Speaker 31 Yeah. Like that sort of stupid, gay, over-the-top, very knowing.
You know what I mean? Right on the nose, but like deliciously so. But it hits the same nerve as like a Jenna Maroney.

Speaker 31 Like there's something gay men go crazy for that. You know what I mean? And she

Speaker 31 totally, totally does that. 20th century Fox Mambo.
That's also.

Speaker 31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20th century fox mambo.
Yep, I remember the whole thing. So good.
But then Smash was also so dumb sometimes. Remember when they'd even

Speaker 31 sing cheers, cheers, I'll drink to that in Times Square?

Speaker 31 I do. Like it was like the two characters like hated each other.

Speaker 31 Hated. And they were like, well, I guess we're just out in New York tonight.
And then they went and sang cheers, drink to that by Rihanna.

Speaker 31 Because this show, let's we forget, was airing at the same time as Glee. And so like they were like,

Speaker 31 it was all over the place. I'm sure in the Raiders where they were like, what the fuck do we do? Yeah, what are we? Do we just do the, can we just try the glee thing and see if that works?

Speaker 31 Even though, even though it makes no fucking sound, like sing just like a pop cover? Can you imagine getting the scripts and like they're really working hard? I'm like, we're building our dynamic.

Speaker 31 It's really tense. We both want this job.
And they flip the page and it's like, oh, in this scene, we get rum drunk in Times Square.

Speaker 31 And we are singing Rihanna cheers, drink to that. Like, like, okay.

Speaker 31 Let's just try. I mean, that's network.
That is network TV, baby. I love it.
From a different era. And again, God bless.
Bring it back. Bring it back.

Speaker 31 But I went to go see it with Gina Gershon. Yes.

Speaker 31 We had a long, lovely night together. And then also there at that night, we got to go say hi backstage.

Speaker 31 Jinx Monsoon and Jen Harris, this the weekend before their last girl's date before, this is tonight. Tonight's the first night of their own area.
They were like, Camille's amazing.

Speaker 31 Michael Urey's amazing. Of course.
Like, it's a great, I can't wait to see this new cast.

Speaker 31 But it was just so fun. Like, Jinx and Megan go way back.
And Megan saw Gina when she did cabaret and like

Speaker 31 in the early two in the early autumn. Had you met Megan Hildy before? No, that was my first time.
And I really fangirled hard. I was like, well, yeah.
And I caught myself.

Speaker 31 I wanted to be like, I wanted to be like

Speaker 31 little gay, little gay boy. Yep.
Like going on Broadway.com every day. Like that was when I first found out about you.

Speaker 31 And I really had to contain myself. And I wanted to be like, you're the reason why I started researching Carnegie Mellon when I thought that was like a pathway.

Speaker 31 And I'm like, obviously I'm like, it all worked out. And I would not have done well in a musical theater program.

Speaker 31 But I'm like, but she would like, she opened, like her, she opened up the door to all these things for me. And she's just so fucking good.
She's great. Just chill.
Good vibe. I could tell good vibe.

Speaker 31 She walked, like, she like brought us out the stage, George. She was like, I'll be your cover.
Like, you guys run past all the time. Oh my God.
You're a fucking legend.

Speaker 31 I feel like if I could ever have the opportunity to like be myself now and visit my little gay self as a ghost, what I would just say from the corner of a room is Megan Hilty.

Speaker 31 And I know that little gay me would be, what? Who said that?

Speaker 31 Who said that?

Speaker 31 How do you know I'm gay?

Speaker 31 How do you know I would know that name? That would be me. Just like...
Megan Hilty. Yes, I know.
It's me from the future. She slays even in 2025.
Don't worry.

Speaker 31 There should be a gay

Speaker 31 discovery satellite. Wow.
Yeah, there should. Do you know what I mean? Because you know the discovery satellite is like, it's just like, there's a vinyl on it.
There's a golden vinyl on it.

Speaker 31 There's all these different things from human culture. From like, they like sent it up in the 70s.
Oh, yeah, we got to do that. We have to do that for gay culture.
Right, we should.

Speaker 31 That'll be the next, that'll be the next thing we do because now the culture awards are out. We have a little bit more free time.

Speaker 31 And you have reminded the group, the producers, and the editors of Lost Culturistas, the award-winning podcast on iHeartRadio, Crick, Click, Clay, Jim, and Big Money Players. We are approaching 500.

Speaker 31 We are approaching our 500th episode, you guys. I believe this is like 485.
It really doesn't feel right, but I have to tell you, remember, we absolutely blew past the 400th.

Speaker 31 We didn't do our 400th until 440.

Speaker 31 And again, we don't take breaks. No.

Speaker 31 And we just had a one-week break, which honestly felt good. It feels great.
But here's the thing. It's like when we do episodes like this, I do kind of feel like we're on a break.
Totally.

Speaker 31 You know what I'm saying? And just to let everybody know, Nana are going to just be sort of like orbiting around each other, not necessarily in the same place all the time. So, it will be more just

Speaker 31 culture catch-ups.

Speaker 31 We're going to back blog some guest episodes in September. Yes, that's right.

Speaker 31 You know, but those will be um evergreen by design. We're not going to talk about any um top level stuff on those, but

Speaker 31 can I have it? Can I maybe pitch something for the 500? What's what's your pitch? In the vein of like gay satellite, the 500 things,

Speaker 31 the 500 things

Speaker 31 lost culturistas 500

Speaker 31 things

Speaker 31 it could be really good it will be banana is on there banana banana might be a huge banana is top ton can i start off fyc for one of the things of course it's your podcast with jenna bush hager today of course it's your podcast it's actually roller culture number nine of course it's your podcast

Speaker 31 apple cinnamon muffin think about it no i never i never mind it I always say yes.

Speaker 31 What do you mean you don't mind it? I'm just saying if

Speaker 31 I have not, I can't say that I've like pursued it very much in my life, but anytime it's in front of me, I go, oh my God, I love apple cinnamon muffin.

Speaker 31 Do you know what I just realized in you saying, of course, it's your podcast? I can kind of use this for anything, huh? So what I'm going to use it for in this moment is I need my

Speaker 31 New York and LA readers, Katie's, publicists, finalists, and Kyle's, which by the way, Congratulations, Kyle's, you remain. Congratulations.
A lot of fan community. Really wonderful messages.

Speaker 31 I received it.

Speaker 31 I want to know where in where I can find an apple cinnamon muffin and I want to know if you have favorites I want to know where they consistently and reliably make apple cinnamon muffins not an apple muffin not a cinnamon not a cinnamon muffin apple cinnamon apple cinnamon you could make it a boom on your own don't do this i because you know what you're doing being a bitch no

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Speaker 31 All right, let's get the get the thing. Do you have anything else to say about Death Becomes her? Because you have mentioned two words yet, Michelle Williams.
Michelle Williams,

Speaker 31 that voice, that look,

Speaker 31 I just went, that is amuse in every way. Do you know what I mean? Did you hear about the rumor? What's the rumor? The rumor is.
I took one hit and I'm being conspiratorial. The rumor is

Speaker 31 act three is

Speaker 31 definitely rock and

Speaker 31 call Destiny's Child is Coming.

Speaker 31 That last part feels too good to be true. But why would it be too good to be true? You know what I mean? Because it's like, what else?

Speaker 31 Not to say that Kelly and Michelle aren't booked and busy, as we're literally talking about Michelle. I'm sure there will be Kelly and Michelle features on Act Three.

Speaker 31 You're saying the rumor is that they're the whole album?

Speaker 31 No. Well, then I believe.
And they come on tour with her. That's great.
Sorry, I was not specific in that. Yeah, I think Act Three is a rock album.
Yes. Perchance, the girls are featured on it.
Yes.

Speaker 31 But that the Act Three tour. It's going to be all three of them.
What I had heard. And mind you, we hear so many things about Beontre.

Speaker 31 Half end up being true, half end up being not. Like the sphere of it all was not true.
The visuals. The visuals, I mean, kind of came, kind of didn't.

Speaker 31 Also, there was that crazy thing about them being stolen from the car.

Speaker 31 That is true. That's crazy, bitch.

Speaker 31 That is the truth. I still don't, I still haven't.
We haven't talked about that. That's not like the Mona Lisa being stolen.
You don't take that. That's actually real culture number 90.

Speaker 31 That's like the Mona Lisa being stolen.

Speaker 31 You don't take that.

Speaker 31 By the way, we should just pause here and say, I know we're going to get to the culture awards later, but Mary M. Cosby came to it, essentially came to a party that we threw and loved.

Speaker 31 And played a role. And we met her.
And this is what she said. Do you remember what she said? All I remember is vaguely her saying, who are you guys?

Speaker 31 This is what it was. We came around the corner.
Mary Cosby, I turned to Bo and I was like, the look that Mary Cosby pulled from our show, she's in a red cloak gown

Speaker 31 and with a red bag and a red gloves. And she turned to us and she said, I had the most amazing time.
And we said, Mary, thank you for being here. You elevated the whole thing.

Speaker 31 And she goes, my husband said, you better know who they are. And she goes, and I do know Matt and Bowen.

Speaker 31 And I was like, you are she was amazing everything she was like we need to get a picture and so i think we should just post that picture to there's going to be a lot of things posted online that needs its place that needs its own grids that's how i knew us and mary cosby yeah the fact that we

Speaker 31 she enjoyed her time there so i do a huge badge of honor

Speaker 31 quickly before death becomes her um yeah we've been very much a broadway episode and there's so much to get to warren yang he's the one who does the tumble down the stairs Yes. And spoiler.

Speaker 31 Okay, well, that's a spoiler. That's a spoiler, but it's been many months.
Please go see. I did not ruin anything.
Trust me.

Speaker 31 Michelle ate them up. Michelle ate them up.
The singing.

Speaker 31 The like riff she is doing at the top of her belt. I love it.
Absurd.

Speaker 31 Absurd. And she, I love that she kind of comes in, sort of laughing the whole time.
She's like, I'm having fun fun doing this.

Speaker 31 She stands, delivers, absolutely belts these songs like you've never heard and then leaves being like, I killed it. She had exit applause every time.

Speaker 31 Our audience uphold. We had a respectful audience.
See, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 31 is it's like they showed up and also death becomes her is quite loud yeah so it's like you can't always hear everything going on

Speaker 31 if it's a play that's the thing it was a play and it was a play where you really needed to listen as with most plays you really gotta engage you can't be coming to the theater like cracking popping coughing like chewing gnawing ripping where there was a there was a lot of dialing where we're browbeating a lot but it's it's just it's i'm sorry but it's crazy does this make us like the old faggots in the chair and basically basically no because they were insulted no they're actually the problem no you're right if statler and waldorf were still going to the theater today their phones would be ringing they'd be canceled that's not what what I said.

Speaker 31 To speak more in things that have happened on stages, have you seen the clips of Cynthia giving what looked to be the performance of a lifetime in Jesus Christ superstar?

Speaker 31 Yeah, I mean, it looks sacred, it looks religious.

Speaker 31 Remember when she was on, and I was like, wow, so you've played Aretha, you've played Harriet Tubman, you've played Alphaba, you've played Seeley. Now she's played Jesus Christ.

Speaker 31 You can't, she can't play a normal woman. Unlimited.

Speaker 31 Whoa.

Speaker 31 I i hadn't even thought of that alphabet oh my god life imitates art life imitates art yet again i saw josh sharp ta-da oh my god have you talked about it yet on the pod um not really i guess i guess i was waiting for you i'm so proud of josh he's just he's so great and honestly i'm sitting there watching the show and

Speaker 31 it the way like it was just unraveling it just it's it's one of those it's like it gets better every second because you realize what the the no pun intended purpose of the slides are and you know he goes through 2,000 slides in the show and is like perfectly exactly on it and ends up telling you know a really beautiful story and

Speaker 31 I just love him so much so much it's just life-affirming literally it's a it's a life-affirming show and

Speaker 31 Hilarious. Sam Pinkleton.
Yeah, I heard from Wanatony. Wanna Tony that guy.
And

Speaker 31 yeah, I mean,

Speaker 31 we don't want to give anything away. That's the thing is, it's like you can't really give it.
Like, you got to go.

Speaker 31 You know what, guys? Sounds like you're hitting the block. Sounds like you guys have shows to go see.
And that's good. Yeah.
That's a good thing. Today ticks.
And you know what?

Speaker 31 I'm being really earnest when I say that. Oh, yeah.
And a lot of times on this podcast, when we say today ticks, peek behind the curtain, it's an ad.

Speaker 31 It's an ad and we're getting paid for it in some way, in a way that we don't always see. You know what? We know that someone is making money.
Someone is making money somewhere. We hope so.

Speaker 31 That's all that matters.

Speaker 31 But yeah, no, get on Today Tix. And I wonder if Tadal is on Today Tix.
It is on Today Tix. It is.
It is definitely on Today Tix. And use code, whatever the code is.

Speaker 31 Just put it.

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Speaker 31 for Today Tickets. Use code Ding Dong or it's Culturistas or just do Monkeys at a Typewriter until you get it.
The way we were laughing in the theater.

Speaker 31 Not just Broadway varietal, but the cinema varietal. My favorite varietal thing.

Speaker 31 Is movies your favorite? Actually, theater is always my favorite. Theater is always your favorite.
And I said, and I said that to Celestia at Wicked in the West End.

Speaker 31 I said, Theater's my favorite medium. And you were like, well, yeah.
But I was saying this to them as a playwright.

Speaker 31 And they were like, well, yeah, I mean, it's the fact that you're sharing space with them makes it the most immediate thing. I was like, that's it.
To me, it's like this: number three,

Speaker 31 film. Okay.
Number two,

Speaker 31 theater.

Speaker 31 Theatrical RE. Yeah.
Theater RE. And then number one.
Number one, of course, haunted house, escape room. That is interesting.
Is it interesting? Or is it not?

Speaker 31 If it's not, that's okay, too. I don't say it because it's interesting.
I just say it because I like to run around and be chased. Are you saying

Speaker 31 that?

Speaker 31 I want the boys trying to come and get you. Trying to come and get you.
You don't. Well, I guess you do.

Speaker 31 No, remember that one who went to win the Poconos?

Speaker 31 What? Do you remember the one who went to win the Poconos? But that's interesting, though.

Speaker 31 Like, you want to run around and be chased, but like, don't you feel, don't you get that same sensation of running, like, running around and being chased while you're watching a horror film?

Speaker 31 Like, it's the same. Oh, my God.
I can't really litigate this with you. I would rather do a haunted house than a scary movie because in a haunted house,

Speaker 31 things make sense. It's like, okay, that is flying out of that door.
Okay, that beast is coming at me with that knife. In a film, you can edit it to make it crazy.

Speaker 31 But it gives you that same thrill of like, oh my God, like, like I'm terrified. I have to just go along for the ride, I suppose, which is what you do in every haunted house.

Speaker 31 Honestly, if we were to actually unpack this.

Speaker 31 I want to know. I want to know too.
Should I breach this subject with my therapist? Yes. And be like, hi.
Every time I sit down for like a scary movie or even a suspenseful movie, I have dread.

Speaker 31 What is this?

Speaker 31 That something happened to me at the theater. Right.
Well,

Speaker 31 Hugo. Right.
well i'm saying like there's something about like

Speaker 31 i'm learning a lot about my the reasons for my anxiety really yes i feel like i shared them with you the other night like things i'm really breaking open new ground mercury is coming out of retro it was a rhetorical really really

Speaker 31 i think you figuring this out will unlock so many other doors treasures untold treasures untold all right

Speaker 31 stacy i'm coming back to therapy on friday babe She doesn't listen to this. Actually, my therapist did tell me.
She's like, I purposefully, if I see you in something, I turn it off. Right, right.

Speaker 31 No, that's. I was like, well, that sucks.
You can't like see some cool stuff. That's fair, though, right? I guess so.

Speaker 31 I had, so remember that period of time, like a couple of years ago, where I had two

Speaker 31 therapists? Yes.

Speaker 31 One of them was like, I'm a fan of what you do.

Speaker 31 And the other one was like, I turn off everything I see you in and I make a point if you say you're going to be in it. I don't watch it.

Speaker 31 And I was like, I have to to stay with you i must stick with you

Speaker 31 that's like that it's like that riddle of uh you run into

Speaker 31 um a town where there's only one barbershop

Speaker 31 and there's two barbers

Speaker 31 you need you need a haircut

Speaker 31 for some reason in this world you dress and need a haircut okay and you go into a barbershop and there's two barbers oh my god this is my nightmare one of them has an amazing haircut and one of them has an awful haircut which one do you go to

Speaker 31 is there a right answer Yes.

Speaker 31 If you want a good haircut, which barber do you pick?

Speaker 31 Okay, in this world,

Speaker 31 this is simple.

Speaker 31 If someone has a good haircut and they're like, I'll cut your hair.

Speaker 31 And someone has a bad haircut and they're like, I'll cut your hair. To be honest with you, I would go with the person with the bad haircut.

Speaker 31 That makes sense because they got the haircut from the person with the good haircut.

Speaker 31 No, no, no. Is I supposed to have like known that? Yeah, that's like part of the reasoning.
I'm sorry, I maybe didn't set it up correctly because it's like because I think you said it was a riddle.

Speaker 31 It's a riddle. You think that's a riddle? A riddle is like, fiddle me thee, fiddle me this.
No, no, that's a riddle that doesn't have to revive. A riddle's

Speaker 31 like an enigma wrapped in a riddle. In cash.
Fucking Erica. Fucking Erica.
Wait, what were we talking about earlier? We were talking about the... Oh, the therapist.
It's like you chose the therapist.

Speaker 31 You picked the therapist who doesn't see you and stuff. So you were like, it was like the barber with the bad haircut.
Yeah. Like the one who is

Speaker 31 who understands what she does on a, on a more deeper level. Honestly, there just on a more deeper.

Speaker 31 It was weird. It was like, I was like, well, I kind of, because back in the day,

Speaker 31 has me flying.

Speaker 31 Back in the day, my therapist was like, we were dealing with stuff around the shooting of Fire Island.

Speaker 31 And I was like, I think I want you to watch the movie because it's relevant to the issues that I'm

Speaker 31 with my therapist. I gave them homework.
Yes.

Speaker 31 and she was like i watched it i enjoyed it and i was like okay and then we talked about it like as it related to yes and this things coming up shooting the movie this is stacy so i think my therapist is the same i don't i think he does not really you have a gay man

Speaker 31 and so it makes it even weirder i guess but like i but the only time i've ever told him to watch something that i've done with spiral hound i was like i was like this is going to explain a lot yeah i think it was really important

Speaker 31 yes yes yes yes agree also because like i think probably a lot of us us were talking about each other,

Speaker 31 bro.

Speaker 31 Well, no, I think we were just like, like, this movie is like something. This is our first time doing this.
Like, this

Speaker 31 is kind of about us. Yeah.
Anyway,

Speaker 31 give me that lighter.

Speaker 89 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes, total reset.

Speaker 55 Right?

Speaker 92 Exactly.

Speaker 45 Diet Coke.

Speaker 85 This is my taste.

Speaker 26 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 95 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 83 Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.
True.

Speaker 100 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

Speaker 103 Nothing against kids. Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 70 Right, over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 28 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more, boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 115 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Biveny.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia, and Curaçao.

Speaker 38 That's not all go, go, go.

Speaker 121 She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.

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Speaker 47 Love it.

Speaker 17 Naomi Watts, Nisi Nash Betts, Tayana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 121 Her professional life crashes into her personal one, and uh-oh.

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Speaker 31 Okay, so wait, I have one thing I wanted to say as we move into, as because the reason we even started talking about this is because I was bringing up that we saw a movie which is naked gun.

Speaker 31 You have to go see this, everybody. Oh, God.
It's so good. It's so fucking stupid.

Speaker 31 I need to see it three more times because it really is that kind of movie where like the comedy comes at you from every which angle and you're just like, okay, I need to process that joke in about like two weeks because I need to focus on this other joke that's coming up.

Speaker 31 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, there was, there was like, it was, you really, it was blink and you miss it in terms of just how many jokes there were. And I love Liam Neeson.
I love Liam Neson.

Speaker 31 I have to say, I was kind of Liam Neeson agnostic before this because I'm not like a taken girl. Right, right.

Speaker 31 All respect to Maggie Grace, always. And she will always be Shannon and lost.

Speaker 31 But I could not make the leap to the Maggie Grace vehicle taken just because, again, like didn't seem like a movie I was going to be like, bit for beat, pound for pound.

Speaker 31 I enjoy this, this pace of film. And Liam kind of, to me, is wrapped up in the taken of it all.
So to see him in this, he's got a fan for life now. I love that.

Speaker 31 I love Pam. I love Pam so much.
I love. The guy who played the villain.
Oh, we were saying his line reads were everything.

Speaker 31 There is a run about the black-eyed peas in this, which was really, really, really one for the books. It's really good.

Speaker 31 And then Fergalicious comes in as a drop at one point.

Speaker 31 The movie knew something. Akiva Schaffer, you know something.
You know something about filmmaking.

Speaker 31 You know something the other girls don't, which is that you, if you can do the Fergalicious drop, you do do the Fergalicious drop. It is stupid comedy.
It is really. See, yeah.

Speaker 31 The original movie we need to go. We need to move in this direction.
Yes, absolutely. The original movie I re-watched just in the lead up to this new one, and I was just like,

Speaker 31 the first in the original trilogy, and I watched it. And I was like, I mean, a lot of this just still holds up.
Yeah. Like this kind of humor, it's just like, I mean, it'll never go out of style.

Speaker 31 Some of it is like, okay, like that's, there's a slight patina on that, but everything else, it's like

Speaker 31 hilarious sight. First one had a lot more psych gags.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 And just for some reason, like, I love that they kept in this updated version, like, you know,

Speaker 31 just these two people like running over everybody, like, crashing into things all all the time.

Speaker 31 It's a little bit different on 70s cameras or 80s cameras. I mean, yeah, like, cause,

Speaker 31 yeah, I will say, because now we know, like, how

Speaker 31 intense, like, I don't know how to, how, this is what I think it is.

Speaker 31 Comedy has for a while now actually asked a lot of the audience. Yes.
And I think watching something done that is just literally so much time had to be put into this, but it doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 31 Like every

Speaker 31 hard joke is what matters and what's important. And I love the sketch way that the scenes are all set up.
It obviously made me miss Austin Powers. We were even talking out the day.

Speaker 31 I'm like, could there be another Austin Powers now after this?

Speaker 31 But that is, I think, the difference. Is it's like, even when I saw Superman, I was like, yeah,

Speaker 31 in this superhero movie, like one of the gags is Lois puts sugar in her coffee for like approximately 15 seconds and then just drinks the coffee like it's normal.

Speaker 31 And it's just, it's just a joke in the movie. And I'm like, hmm, even superhero movies took themselves so fucking seriously there for a while.
So to see that gag happen, I was like, huh.

Speaker 31 And then with Naked Gun,

Speaker 31 it's all just so stupid. And I was like, well, I'm having a bigger reaction than I've had in a long time.

Speaker 31 And that's not to say that comedy can't be meaningful or shouldn't be meaningful or isn't meaningful in this new way.

Speaker 31 I'm like exalting, but it is really nice to just drop your shoulders, not take anything too seriously, and just rip 100%.

Speaker 31 Because I don't know what you were thinking in the theater yesterday or two days ago. I was just like, this feeling of laughing in a theater feels so foreign.
Yeah, and also so good. So good.

Speaker 31 But I'm like, it's been way too long since I've done it. 100%.

Speaker 31 You used to reliably be able to go to the movie theaters and like laugh at something like bridesmaids yes yes you know what i mean like those are formative memories this and honestly this is this is i think a real thing like horrors continued to do fine at the box office but comedy's not actually drives away a whole kind of person that goes to the movies.

Speaker 31 When the only thing you can really reliably go to the movies for is like shock or wonder, it's like a lot of people aren't interested in that.

Speaker 31 A lot of people are interested in a different kind of reaction and going to the movies.

Speaker 31 And I get that like, you know, because of streaming, you can, it's easier to provide that sort of comfort viewing or it's more acceptable to get away with it going straight to people's homes.

Speaker 31 But we're really missing out on putting hard comedies in theaters because those are some of the most formative experiences of my life.

Speaker 31 And we don't have that. And I'm sorry, but that type of human that would enjoy that is still fucking out there.
And there's still that age.

Speaker 31 And there's still, you know, I get that the world has changed, but like, I just don't believe that there's no desire for people to go see good comedy at the theaters. I just don't.

Speaker 31 Because as you're saying this, it's like, that does drive away a whole kind of people who go to the movies.

Speaker 31 And so the way that we, you and I, and a whole generation of people defines comedies now is that like, okay, we still, we're still attached to this thing of going to the theater and laughing with everybody.

Speaker 31 It's just a different sensation. You're just aware of the people around you.
Anyway, obviously.

Speaker 31 But I'm just saying, like, it then defines what comedy is for a generation of people growing up who all they think comedy is is like some person on TikTok

Speaker 31 doing

Speaker 31 a very like refracted kind of meme-y thing. Right.
Which, yeah, yeah. Which it is, but it's just like, that's not all of comedy.
It's not direct hard comedy. Exactly.

Speaker 31 It is in reference to something where there's almost no like

Speaker 31 if it exists at all. Or

Speaker 31 this generation thinks comedy is like someone, a stand-up comedian, quote-unquote, going up on a mic and just saying whatever slurs they want, like Kill Tony.

Speaker 31 It's like, that's not comedy either, but they think that's comedy. And it's like, you need movies like this that reach every audience.
And that is what the example should be.

Speaker 31 This is not going to be to everyone's taste, but what I am saying is you can be any kind of person and think this movie is fun. Yes.
You know what I mean? And that's important. You might not love it.

Speaker 31 Like, I even, I'm in a group thread where a couple people were like, I thought the movie actually could have been funny. Not everything landed.
No, it doesn't have to be.

Speaker 31 But that's, there's almost something about that, too, is it's like, okay, that bit went by and maybe it didn't work for me as what, much as the last half.

Speaker 31 But the fact is, like,

Speaker 31 your batting average can be a little bit lower when you're taking a lot of swings. You know what I mean? This movie is constantly jam-packed with the goal of every single fucking thing being funny.

Speaker 31 So yeah, if its batting average is like a 760 instead of a 990, that's pretty fucking good. Either way, it's great.

Speaker 31 Yeah, because there's some quote-unquote comedy out here which are taking no swings at comedy. And I'm sorry, but when you, when everything is comedy, you do dilute things out of that.

Speaker 31 Like, I don't know. Moratorium on what is comedy.
And I think everyone. But I think you and I just figured it out for real.

Speaker 31 The way

Speaker 31 we...

Speaker 31 For a second there, we're number three

Speaker 31 on the comedy podcast list. Behind we said, eat it.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 Eat it. Alex Cooper.

Speaker 31 Eat it. Eat it.
We've we went right below her right away. Of course.
That's okay. We respect all these girls.
No.

Speaker 31 We just think.

Speaker 31 But for a second, we had the number three spot. And I think we just proved why.

Speaker 31 Absolutely. Right now, we are wearing all

Speaker 31 white. We are in an all-white room and we're like little angels.
And that's how I want you guys to think of us whenever we don't have a visual aid.

Speaker 31 Just like two little angels in like a white room, like it's like it's heaven or something.

Speaker 31 Just talking to each other, floating around like little heads. And we're wearing white button downs with like a chiffon.

Speaker 31 What's the chiffon pant? Speaking of music and pants,

Speaker 31 you know who's wearing the pants

Speaker 31 in terms of my Spotify most streamed lately? Interesting expression.

Speaker 31 Sometimes I really segues in me

Speaker 31 go great. And then other times it goes like that.
I love it. Who's wearing the pants?

Speaker 31 Have you been streaming the subway? Absolutely. So good.
So good. I just, and I love that it is so different from what like the version of songs she's been performing at the concerts.

Speaker 31 Cause it feels like it's more like acoustic and like not quite as lush.

Speaker 31 And like, I don't know I feel like when she was doing it live only at her concert before she released it and recorded it like recorded and released it It just felt like a different song This just feels like it's it gives it a whole new life.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I mean my confession is I actually wasn't very familiar with the live version because I just really wanted to At the time, I remember being like, I really want to wait because I'm sure that this is coming soon.

Speaker 31 Yeah. And then it just kind of never came.
So I didn't really have like much of a vocabulary for it. So I'm kind of experiencing it as an oh, that's great.
Then that's a great thing.

Speaker 31 But of course I had listened to it like when it came out at first, and then a couple times when she was coming on, but like it hasn't been in rotation.

Speaker 31 I fucking love this. So God.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 31 just how grand it is and how long it is. I just love that she feels like she can get away with something like this because she can.
She doesn't feel emboldened.

Speaker 31 I mean, she doesn't feel encumbered by any expectation about like what a pop song is. I think because like everything she's done has been on her own terms anyway.

Speaker 31 i love that like casual has like this little sister song i do think ultimately it is the best song on casual or subway i think casual is the best song 100 100 i mean when you see her do it live and you feel that song live and it is the the song that made me first really turn my head to her there's just something so special about it

Speaker 31 Are you kidding me? Like that whole fucking thing. Anyway, yeah, Subway.
And this feels like that song. I need to give the music video another.

Speaker 31 But just the shot of her, of like those butterflies like flying around her as it pans up.

Speaker 31 She's a great actor. I'm just like, this is an incredible visual.

Speaker 31 Period. I think it's, I think that the Subway video and the Man Child video both were

Speaker 31 feats in pop girly music video history, recent history. I love the man child video.
I love that every single shot is different. I love that, like literally.
Right. I love

Speaker 31 this choice with the hair in the subway like i she serrated it she serrated it and these girls are serrating i think we have to we all have to serrate we all have to serrate better oh it's not the butterfly sorry it's the garbage when she's yeah and the intersection fuck i'm just god that that's that's amazing yeah her being dragged by the car oh like are you kidding me you can do that in a music video I'm so happy that they're being intentional about music videos.

Speaker 31 I know. Because that's another thing that's gone the way of the dodo is sort of the music video.
Like, you know you're right.

Speaker 31 It's only the girls the girls who like Ariana is always really really good about but I was saying that I was like were you gonna say it's always the girls? I'm sorry. Yes, I agree with you.

Speaker 31 I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, you didn't at all.
Are you saying that it's the girls who like have the studio backing? Because it's just like some of these girls that don't have the money.

Speaker 31 It's the ones that have like the big guns, I think, that can crank out these videos. And then it's the girls who like don't get the money from the label.
Yeah, but you know what though?

Speaker 31 I said studios. I meant labels.
You don't need that much money to do something like cute and interesting. Yeah.
And I just don't think you do. Like, I think you just pick something that's like...

Speaker 31 You're being so Michelle Visage right now. I love it.

Speaker 31 You don't need to. I'm telling them I'm refusing to give them a budget.
Girls, I'm not giving you a budget.

Speaker 31 No, make your own videos.

Speaker 31 I'm not giving you a budget. You're not getting a budget for the season.
I also...

Speaker 31 Speaking of Dan Nigro, his other song, that's Conan Gray's Bodhi.

Speaker 31 I am supporting this young girl. Yeah, Conan Gray.
I am supporting. I think

Speaker 31 very bright. We need to really be listening to this one.
Bright star. I'm only streaming this.
That's so cute. I love it.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 31 I'm very.

Speaker 31 I love it. I love that we, I love that, like.

Speaker 31 There's a singer like that. Yeah, I mean, the belt at the end of

Speaker 31 the bridge. I love it.
It's crazy. And then he puts together a cute little video, too, where the boyfriend leaves him.

Speaker 31 Sorry. No, he

Speaker 31 gets to

Speaker 31 put together a saucy little video where he's got like his little gay love interest. Then there's like an

Speaker 31 errant single tier at the end when they know it's not working. They break up.
Oh, we love it. Punching the gut.
Punching the gut.

Speaker 31 Little gay singer. Little gay singers everywhere.
Conan's one to watch. Have you listened to the Demi Lovato? I wanna go fast.
I wanna go fast. And it's like, giving it home.

Speaker 31 It's like locked and loaded for the gay guy. Of course, Demi Lovato.
Is it as the music video out?

Speaker 31 I'm sure. No, but she's been doing a lot of like visuals.
She's sort of giving this.

Speaker 31 Describe to everyone what I'm doing. I've seen videos walking through a club.

Speaker 31 I want to go fast. Yeah, man.
That's just kind of posing seductively. I look like Jinx from Pokemon.
Yes.

Speaker 93 Yes.

Speaker 31 Like, you just give them a little reference of a wiggle. I want to go fast.
This, she, Demi,

Speaker 31 i i want a big demi moment cool for the summer was one of the great peaks of my life it continues to reappear in beautiful ways cool for the summer should we just like really we're going to p-town um should we make cool for the summer a big thing in p-town yes

Speaker 31 Absolutely. Just like whenever we like get ready, like it's always cool for the summer.
Like we can't leave any place

Speaker 31 without playing it as we leave. This is how I feel about apple cinnamon muffin, which I was gonna say is your beef stew.
How'd you feel? Huh? How'd you feel? Good,

Speaker 31 yeah.

Speaker 31 I'm but cool for the summer is like apple cinnamon muffin. I will never mind it.

Speaker 31 Yep, you're edged. How about that? You thought we were actually going to play it? No, it was ready.
You're edged. You're not getting it.
See, and this is what we've been saying for a really long time.

Speaker 31 Our grandparents will have Summer Over the Rainbow. Our grandchildren will have Cool for the Summer.

Speaker 31 And we have been saying this.

Speaker 31 It is number one on the Great Global Songbook. I don't think you're hearing me.

Speaker 31 I really don't think you're hearing me correctly.

Speaker 31 Cool for the summer is number one

Speaker 31 on the great, not American,

Speaker 31 glorified

Speaker 31 songbook. This song stands tall with other winners of our lists.
The iconic 400, the number one person on the list is Mariah Carey.

Speaker 31 The top 200 moments in culture, the number one moment in culture was Adela Zeem. Do you understand? It is the song equivalent of

Speaker 31 those. Oh my god, I still don't think they get it.
Is the sick part

Speaker 31 you will get it even more? There are a lot of people that are just like, you know, like Demi La Hotel Fast comes out and they don't remember what a Demi Era can give. And that's the

Speaker 31 chokes me up. It chokes me up.

Speaker 31 Cool for the summer. You will understand even more when we release the 500 objects of culture.
Yeah, you will.

Speaker 31 It'll be the equivalent to the number one of that. How many of you have to do that? Let's just say Demi Lavalo's top in that music video is on it.
Okay.

Speaker 31 The top that she wore in that music video is on the list of 500 things of culture. Should we drink Flowerboy? Yes.
Okay. So happy birthday, Kyle Cook.
Happy birthday, Kyle. Is it his birthday today?

Speaker 31 Yes, actually it is.

Speaker 31 Mr. Betula, we are, so we're going to have...
So did Kyle send you this? Yes. I'm sorry.

Speaker 31 Kyle, you're in the doghouse with me because Kyle Cook, I was supposed to get some Flower Boy, and you know I'm a little stoner.

Speaker 31 Amanda,

Speaker 31 get Mr. Batullah

Speaker 31 on the horn.

Speaker 31 Can I say something? What?

Speaker 31 I texted Amanda Batula happy birthday.

Speaker 31 And I did not get a response. I think she's like that cool.

Speaker 31 1,000%.

Speaker 31 Wait, what do you mean? She loves you. She's going to text back happy birthday.
No, she, no, I'm saying she doesn't have to. And I'm saying

Speaker 31 that these people, that Kyle and Amanda, while we love them,

Speaker 31 maybe, and maybe it's not meant to be that we're friends with them. You know what I mean? As much as we would like to, maybe it's not, maybe they're not ready for us.

Speaker 31 Do you think that our

Speaker 31 expectations were too high? I thought we made a real connection with you. We thought we made a real connection with you guys.

Speaker 31 And we're sitting here, we're drinking Flowerboy, and we're just kind of despondent. We're just kind of,

Speaker 31 we love you. We're going to drink Flowerboy.
Happy birthday, Kyle Cook. DJ Kyle Cook.

Speaker 31 Watch what happens, Live. They asked us if we'd rather fuck you or who was the other person.
Oh, Jesse. Jesse.
And I said you. For so many reasons.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 No, but your type is Jesse, though. And even on the show, I believe that you said your type was Jesse.
Oh, no, so it wasn't Kyle and Jesse. It was.
Who was it?

Speaker 31 It was like, who would you rather bang, Kyle?

Speaker 31 But Kyle's was with someone else and Jesse was with someone else. Well, clearly you ran away with this one, Kyle.

Speaker 31 Anyway. Cheers to you.
Happy 43rd.

Speaker 31 Your skin looks better than ours.

Speaker 31 I literally said to him, I was like, I turned to him at one point i think oh is this grape yeah did you give me the grape one is that okay what is that orange i we can trade i like the grape one i at least try the sip yeah you don't like the grape well this is an ad for flower boy i'll take the grape to think how heartbroken we just were i know

Speaker 31 i like the grape do you want do you like the orange i want the orange grape okay you like the grape yes there's something about grape the the kid grape juice feeling that like i gotta tell you something this is actually really good and i was drinking Lover Boy when I, when I was, um, where was I just, where was that?

Speaker 31 I guess it was

Speaker 31 Memorial Day weekend. Oh, it was 4th of July.
4th of July. And Loverboy was slapping.
Yeah. I was drinking Flower Boy during 4th of July as well.
Or you were doing Lover. I was doing Flower.

Speaker 31 You were on your Flower. I was on my Lover.

Speaker 89 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes, total reset.

Speaker 55 Right?

Speaker 92 Exactly.

Speaker 85 Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 26 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

True.

Speaker 100 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean?

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Speaker 31 Okay, should we finally talk about culture rewards? Or do we have other things to say? Okay, so this is, I just want to, just because I think it's funny,

Speaker 31 this is the rest of the stuff that I wrote down as potential topics.

Speaker 31 And I almost never do this, you guys, but this time I was like, yeah, you know, like, let's have a proper culture catch up and talk about all the things.

Speaker 31 Can you imagine if we commented on Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau's date?

Speaker 31 I was like,

Speaker 31 what is there even to be said?

Speaker 31 Two people connected, okay?

Speaker 31 Can't people just fall in love? Yeah,

Speaker 31 just leave them

Speaker 31 alone. Can't people just have a fairy tale romance anymore? Leave them alone.
Leave them be. And just like that ended.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 31 It's sad. I think that we will always have Sex in the City and Carrie Bradshaw and watching Sarah Jessica's reel

Speaker 31 about. Did you watch this? I did, of course.
I was so emotional. It was so moving.
I was just like, wow. That's that's one of the best characters in TV.

Speaker 31 Honestly, here's what I'll remember about it just like that.

Speaker 31 How hard Sarah Jessica Parker tore,

Speaker 31 especially in that first season, when she ran in and she discovered big in that first episode. I'll remember, I remember that gagged me that they did that.
So respect on the show's name for that.

Speaker 31 I will remember Trey Diaz. I will remember Miranda as lesbian in this time capsule.

Speaker 31 You will, you, you will not only remember, you will cherish it. And I will remember Seema.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I will remember her.

Speaker 31 I will remember her.

Speaker 31 LTW, I won't.

Speaker 31 But I will remember Seema.

Speaker 31 I'll remember.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 31 I'll remember Kristen Davis

Speaker 31 through a lot of work opposite animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 31 Well, because remember we remember, remember when we were like positing, like, okay, if you watch Kristen Davis and LTW scene like it's the Muppets,

Speaker 31 it's actually really good, but then that just wasn't the same show as the other characters. Can I say, like,

Speaker 31 we have not talked enough about Charlotte and just like that as a culture. No,

Speaker 31 I think sometimes it's hard. Well, but there's such a reality distortion around

Speaker 31 Charlotte, and then just like that, specifically, where, like, you have

Speaker 31 LTW, like, forgetting that her dad died, or having two separate fathers who has to, or just whatever, like the whole dad thing. Oh, my God.

Speaker 31 But then, remember in season one, like, I took a screen grab of like LTW like holding a phone the wrong way as she was speaking on it.

Speaker 31 Then there's just like a bunch of, there's just something bizarre. I will just, I just will just come out and say

Speaker 31 there's something bizarre in any of the storylines involving her child her children yeah um just something i was like i don't know what's going on

Speaker 31 it happened in another dimension this is what i'm saying it's in another dimension this is this is the thing with the lt when with ltw and sometimes when ltw is with charlotte and this is my opinion and listen i'm on the record as saying

Speaker 31 lots of things about this show but this is what I want to leave with. The number one best thing that this show could have done.
When it was revealed that LTW had said her father died twice,

Speaker 31 the number one thing they should have done absolutely immediately, and I'm disappointed that they didn't, because these are not the third graders that I remember.

Speaker 31 The third graders that I remember would have made Charlotte wake up in the cold dark of night. She shoots up in bed.
She goes, oh my God.

Speaker 31 Harry says, what? What's the matter? She goes,

Speaker 31 I think Lisa Todd has been lying to me. She said her father died two years ago, but she just said he died again.
It can't be right, right? Well, I don't know. Why don't you just talk to her? Okay.

Speaker 31 She wakes up in the morning. She actually goes over LTW's house.
She goes, hey, I just wanted to check in because you said your father died twice. Lisa Todd waxed up goes oh did I

Speaker 31 excuse me a second leaves the room comes back with a knife it's like

Speaker 31 and like full LTW psycho reveal Kristen Davis goes and at this point it's like she is it's an action film she does a dive roll because LTW is throwing the knife she gets a gun a bazooka fuck you you can't expose me LTW reveals she's a psychopath

Speaker 31 this if you better not be eating on this mic you're gonna give the mistophonia girlies

Speaker 31 a nightmare and a half. Cover your mouth.
And I, and you did get too high.

Speaker 31 Full psychopath LTW reveal is the only way that that show. And I'm sorry, it could have kept going.

Speaker 31 But I'm not seeing the third graders I remember. Should we literally just have this episode be the culture catch-up and then do another one that we put out, which is the culture awards recap?

Speaker 31 Like, no, literally, like, do it like right after this like if because i don't have that much on here we did a whole culture catch-up we could in a couple days do the lost culture we're already we're in an hour 17 minutes okay yeah let's let's do maybe should we do it next week should we do what the culture catch up

Speaker 31 because maybe we should do that because it gives more people exactly more time to watch it exactly okay

Speaker 31 we're not gonna do the culture awards recap this time hmm guess you'll have to i guess you'll have to really watch it now oh This is going to be a rip, roaring, rollicking one. Yes.

Speaker 31 All I have left on my list is two things. Okay.

Speaker 31 I watched The Hunting Wives on Netflix. Perfect.

Speaker 31 It's has the, I've only watched one episode so far. It has the potential to go full crazy town.
And so I think I'm going to keep going. I think people are.
This is what people are saying.

Speaker 31 I have not watched it. I will get to it at some point.
Malin Ackerman's character.

Speaker 31 It's

Speaker 31 in my laundry. I'm sorry.
Oh my God. That beautiful song.

Speaker 31 It's really good. Melon Ackerman's character, I can tell, is going to be some sort of femme fatale,

Speaker 31 really sort of eating and chewing the scenery. And you can tell she fucks everybody.

Speaker 31 And what's Brittany Snow giving? Brittany Snow right now is giving, I'm a little bit nervous to be here. And you can tell I have a little bit of an anxiety problem.
And

Speaker 31 it's a little bit like meep.

Speaker 31 You know what I mean? Like, but, but I think what's coming is going to be a full opposite of meep situation. You guys know what meep means, right? Like meep.

Speaker 31 Imagine the face that Bowen and I are making when we do this.

Speaker 31 Like that, you know what I mean. Like the least horny thing in the world is to be meep.
It's actually like

Speaker 31 there's like a one through 10 scale and at a zero is meep and at a 10 is horny. Right.
Meep.

Speaker 31 So that's sort of like Brittany Stoneau's vibe in the first episode, but she's absolutely licking her chops at Malton Ackerman, who's sort of this like sexy va-va-vum.

Speaker 31 Like, so they're going to get together. I'm going to get dressed in front of you.
Like, sorry, babe. Like that kind of vibe.

Speaker 31 And we've already seen Melon Ackerman teach Britney Snow how to drive and how to shoot a gun. So her fingers are basically already inside her.
And I can't wait to see this pop off.

Speaker 31 And I think it's really going to pop off. I didn't realize that's what it was about.
Oh, yeah. It's like it's, I think it's about to be giving like psychosexual lesbian cult.

Speaker 31 Crazy. That's at least what the first episode is giving.
Because Malin Ackerman has like another female friend that you can tell is like obsessed with her.

Speaker 31 And so she's like, I'm going to go hang out with Britney Snow now. See you later.
And the other one is like,

Speaker 31 but wait, I was supposed to go with you tonight.

Speaker 31 And she's like, whatever. I'm going to go hang out with Britney Snow.
But Malin.

Speaker 31 Malin.

Speaker 31 Malin Ackerman.

Speaker 31 Stop.

Speaker 31 Stop. Stop being so uncool.
I'm going to go hang out with Britney Snow and drive and do donuts in a parking lot in my truck.

Speaker 31 Melon.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 31 where does the hunting and the wives come in? Girl, that has yet to be seen.

Speaker 31 What are they? They're all like,

Speaker 31 they're like, they're like,

Speaker 31 it's more politics. Like

Speaker 31 Dylan. McDermott, not Dylan McDermott.
Dylan Dermot Mulroney

Speaker 31 is like a, he's like a guy in Texas who might be thanking or running for governor and like this is like his wife is Malon Ackerman and she all her friends so like we're the wives

Speaker 31 I see and Britney Snow is like hi me I'm you

Speaker 31 but do not eat on that mic you're expecting I'm sorry you're expecting a flip like Britney Snow is gonna be like I'm that bitch I think Britney Snow is gonna get to be quite frank with you her pussy eaten by Melon Ackerman that and I think that's the thing that shocks me.

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Speaker 31 It's the second time it's come up. So, yes.
Treasures Untold. I'm sure.
I'm sure we've used that title in the past.

Speaker 31 Treasures Untold. We have a high potential now of just repeating a title without it.

Speaker 31 I don't think Treasures Untold has been a title.

Speaker 31 I'm saying it.

Speaker 31 I think it sounds like one, which means it's a good idea. I feel like it sounds so wonderfully nonspecific to any other time in our life when we were recording this.
I'm in the podcast.

Speaker 31 I think maybe the word untold.

Speaker 31 I'm sure untold and the word treasures separately. Las Culturistas.
Treasures Untold. Treasure.

Speaker 31 Like we really could. Untold.

Speaker 31 Okay, let's see. I don't think so.

Speaker 31 Treasures. No, but there's another podcast called Treasures Untold.
Well, it's something to think about. What our title of that is going to be.
I think Treasures Untold, maybe exclamation point.

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I said so dark. And this actually does lead into my I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 31 okay i have my i don't think so honey and this is i don't think so honey it's our segment on the podcast where we take one minute to rant rail and more against something in culture that's been really bad towards us its own community and i think in kind of this case it's both

Speaker 31 i think it's bad for the world okay here we go this is matt rogers i don't think so honey's 10 starts down i don't think so honey jax taylor jax taylor discourse jax taylor on television it is done it's a wrap i know that like it's pretty much already out there like that it is officially a wrap on the jax taylor of it all but my god i think it's actually like just hurting our spirits and souls to watch this in this world where we have to really take stock of how we spend every minute of our life because nothing is promised like you can't spend it watching the valley

Speaker 31 if Jax Taylor is going to be the center of it. Like, I like a lot of those people.
I enjoyed the show the first season a lot. The second season just like got so dark with Jax.

Speaker 31 He's really, really, really brutal towards his wife. 15.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 31 it's just sad because there's kids involved and just like yikes. And then elsewhere, you look elsewhere and like Jesse and Michelle just trying to ruin each other.
Like, really, it's Jesse.

Speaker 31 It's he and Michelle, but like Jesse is awful. It's just the the whole thing wolf I can't with Jax anymore

Speaker 31 wait a minute um no there's just

Speaker 31 secondary I was I was holding the Jax thing obviously the Jax thing is as you are saying much darker but the Jesse Michelle thing grated on me in such a crazy way it was like watching the two of them argue or the way the way they were acting individually or together I was like, this is

Speaker 31 like, it's like, there's nothing,

Speaker 31 there's no caloric entertainment value there. It only just makes you feel like empty and bad.

Speaker 31 Like, and also it's like, it's a shame because the first season, I don't know what it is sometimes because it's like, it might be something with that group in particular.

Speaker 31 Because like, it feels like nothing can be light. Like, it's like Vanderbump rules had to end.
The Valley. I don't know how that continues.
It's just like, we don't have fun together.

Speaker 31 Something about that group of people.

Speaker 31 Something I'm going to keep, I'm going to like excise Kristen Doty in a way.

Speaker 31 really yeah I I really missed her when she was not on my TV or like just like gone from Vanderpump but like that like I don't know there's just something about her that's just like oh that's that's that the that vibration is bringing in yeah it's

Speaker 31 other other other like behavior like that other bad behavior there's there's people on the show that feel low vibration yes like and Jack's the energy is so darkening

Speaker 31 I'm just like

Speaker 31 and then there are people on the show that I really like like

Speaker 31 individually. And like,

Speaker 31 you know, like, we love Sheena Shea in this house, but also it's like when certain people are mixed together, like, but we also love like Arianomatics. I'm like, why?

Speaker 31 It's like we watch the show and it's just like, maybe this group of people

Speaker 31 is too triggered by each other because all they know is this reality TV experience of like trying to fuck each other up. So it's like, I'm not saying they're not all individually like, you know,

Speaker 31 in most cases, certainly not Jaxes,

Speaker 31 but like, you know,

Speaker 31 should be on television in some way. But I think just this configuration is

Speaker 31 feeling like it's done. Agree.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I just, I really gave up a long time ago and I feel bad about it. Don't feel bad because you chose you.
Yes.

Speaker 31 Do you have I don't think so, honey? I do.

Speaker 31 Well, fabulous because I know everyone's chomming at the bits of here. This is Boeing anxiety.
I don't think so, honey, as time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 31 Email, there haven't been no real meaningful advancements in you for many, many years.

Speaker 31 The language around you has gotten only worse.

Speaker 31 Per my last.

Speaker 31 I'm not going to like rattle off office speaking.

Speaker 31 I'm just saying the way that we as human beings have learned to speak to each other through because of the formal limitations of email is actually really scary to me 30 seconds like

Speaker 31 why do i have to type two full paragraphs of like fluff before i get to the meat to the to the meat or the marrow or the bone or whatever of why i'm communicating with you like other forms of communication are so much more direct so much faster there's an expectation of when someone responds to you there's none of that in email and it's lawless and it is not advanced as i've said meaningfully there was a time when google was trying to do google wave and that was their answer to innovating on the way email should work.

Speaker 31 Threads and docs and all these things. It was a huge failure, but email is the canker in the state.
And that is one minute. Okay, so

Speaker 31 I'm bad at it. And I didn't own that.
Why do you think you're bad at it? Because it is a bad medium.

Speaker 31 Okay, but when you, can I ask about your thing that you said about two paragraphs or semi-paragraphs of fluff before you get to the marrow or the meat of your email?

Speaker 31 That's like a a lot of initial emails, right? Like, especially in our industry, it's like, it's like, or you got to get right to the chase. I do.
You see me emailing.

Speaker 31 And I was saying, why do I have to do that in a way that is actually not something that I do? I'm saying, like, I'm used, I'm swapping myself in as a way to soften the argument because

Speaker 31 it's accusatory. Yeah.
Like, so many emails that I get are like big chunks of,

Speaker 31 you know, just like introductory, lovely pleasantries, which I appreciate.

Speaker 31 And it is a thing that you have to do, but we all feel like it's compulsory because that's, that's what the rules, the quote-unquote rules of email are. I'm sick of them.

Speaker 31 Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, like, you're, you're talking about the, the pageantry of,

Speaker 31 hi, Bowen. Hope you're well.
Hope you're well and that everything is

Speaker 31 has been amazing this holiday.

Speaker 31 That's

Speaker 31 the thing amidst all this.

Speaker 31 I hope you're holding up okay amidst all this is so

Speaker 31 real looping following up

Speaker 31 adding this person to revisit there's just

Speaker 31 bullshit sentences that float around in our brains now because email is fucking dusty so

Speaker 31 what how would you prefer we act on email like if i if i was to add someone

Speaker 31 we don't have to change anything about email there's there's no getting out there's no changing it i'm just saying i prefer

Speaker 31 text you know matt's asking matt's acting like i like raised a hand to slap him but i'm just i'm just gesticulating.

Speaker 31 Scares me. He scares me.

Speaker 31 Do you know what I'm saying? A text is just so much more direct. There's an expectation, like within, if I don't respond to you in 24 hours, then something's wrong.
You know what I mean? Yeah,

Speaker 31 okay. People can hide in the bushes of emails or strike from the bushes of metabolizing these things differently.

Speaker 31 I feel like if I don't get back to your text, it's like easier for me to get away with that than it is for me to not respond to your email.

Speaker 31 I feel like an email, I feel like an email is like an official correspondence. It's like I sent you an email.

Speaker 31 There's like an intention

Speaker 31 with text. Maybe this is just the way I am about it, but it feels a lot more casual.
If I miss your text, if I don't get back to you on your text, a million other things could have happened.

Speaker 31 If I don't get back to you on email,

Speaker 31 even more million things could have happened. This is what I'm saying.
Like, yeah, I don't know why I'm separating these two things. I kind of see where you're going with this.

Speaker 31 Because text is more casual, I guess. More person-to-person person direct.
I was saying, I would say text is less casual.

Speaker 31 It's more emotional, it has a different emotional register for people as they communicate through it because having someone's number is a different thing than having someone's email.

Speaker 31 That's interesting. Do you know what I mean? So

Speaker 31 like if I have someone's, if I have this person's number, then it's like, oh, we're buzz. This is where, this is where I'm separating from you in the woods, I believe.
Okay.

Speaker 31 Because for me, email is professional and text is personal. So if you have my phone number, I see, I'm with you.
And you reach out to me and you text me, that to me does not fall under professional.

Speaker 31 It's if you were to be professional with me over text, that that would be not inappropriate, but like, I'm not taking things over text as seriously as I am over email. So maybe that's the separation.

Speaker 31 Interesting. Cause

Speaker 31 And I think where the separation is, because I'm with you the whole, the, the whole way, I am like, if you reach out to me over email with an official kind of correspondence that I have to like that wade through that I have to wait through and that is actionable for me in some way where I have to like respond.

Speaker 31 I'm like,

Speaker 31 I'm just going to let this sit here because I've got like more of these coming from people that I don't know from fucking Adam. You know what I mean? And then like I'm sure like it's the same for you.

Speaker 31 Like a lot of these official correspondences,

Speaker 31 if they do have to do with work and our jobs, then like other people mediate that for us. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 31 So that's why I'm like, email is so like low stakes in terms of responses. I feel like you communicate on email in a way you never would.

Speaker 31 You're just talking about me. No, no, no.
Generally. Generally, yeah.

Speaker 31 The world. The world acts on email like crazy fools.
Like crazy fools. Like this was our whole thing.

Speaker 31 The rules of email to you and said, hope you're well. You'd be like, where's the

Speaker 31 hey? Where you say, hey, robot, where's Stepford wives? What'd you do with my best friend?

Speaker 31 where is

Speaker 31 what did you do with him

Speaker 31 and then you see me in the corner

Speaker 31 oh please

Speaker 31 you rip off the the duct tape i go ah

Speaker 31 i'm sorry that's an important thing

Speaker 31 he went that way Your mouth hurts so bad, but you can't touch it because you're still

Speaker 31 gagged from behind. Not gagged from behind.
I guess

Speaker 31 tied up

Speaker 31 being tied up is being gagged from behind it's actually real culture number 59 being tied up is being gagged from behind

Speaker 31 kind of hot and horny

Speaker 31 so listen we both don't i don't think so honeys we've talked about everything in culture i think if we missed something quite honestly what i would say to you is fuck off because we really tried very hard today and you broke ass we broke ass

Speaker 31 okay well stay tuned for our recap episode yeah stay tuned for that.

Speaker 31 Because the thing is, like, there was actually too much pop culture to get to. And I do think it's a good idea to encourage people to still stream the show.
I think so. I think let's not

Speaker 31 spoil the soup. No, we'll spoil the soup next week.

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Speaker 31 And I'm sure that's no no surprise. So we'll talk about this next week.

Speaker 31 When the discourse has settled, for now, just discourse about everything else. Bye.
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More episodes from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Introducing: CrimeLess

"Elevated Messy" (w/ Rachel Sennott)

"The Protagonist" (w/ Heather Gay)

“Drinkin' The Soda” (w/ Brittany Snow)

"All Up In The Macabre" (w/ Sarah Paulson)