"RSVP Yes" (w/ Allison Williams)

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Look, man.

Goodness.

Wow.

Las Cultoristas.

Ding-dong.

Las Culturistas happening.

And here's the thing.

It happened.

We're keeping it.

Can I say that?

Last culture.

I think the reason why I did that is because the thing that you don't know is that Las Culturistas has been happening.

It's been happening.

Oh, that's beautiful.

What a great spin.

Thank you.

I'm getting a good spin the more I'm in the biz.

No, I literally hit the ground.

Yeah.

Boots on the ground.

Got some.

There's something about our guests that idiot.

Devaste.

Like dayman in his 30s.

Oh, baby.

Let me tell you something.

The way I was up at seven, I actually woke up and like kind of shot out.

You woke up at seven too.

How's your jet lag, by the way?

I think I'm okay.

You need, not sponsored, time shifter.

You need time shifter.

What is What is that?

Oh is that the app?

That's my jet lag app.

Okay, you know what I did do at Nyquil.

And that actually rolled the dice.

It was a roll of the dice, but I mean, I slept for at least a hard six and a half.

Great.

But that doesn't even compare to what happened to our guests.

Right.

Oh.

I think she said three hours, 15 minutes, 20 minutes, three and a half hours.

Because the world premiere of Megan 2.0 was like the last time.

The world premiere of Megan 2.0 was last night.

I was privileged enough to watch it from the comfort of my own home.

Oh my God.

With Sudi Green.

Oh, you did?

And we were both like, this is.

It's art.

This is fucking artful.

There's a moment.

There's so many things that I want to spoil that I can't.

But there's just a moment.

I'll say

there is a moment that pays tribute to an important musical artist.

And it's, and it's sublime.

You're going to have to tell me after.

I'll tell you after.

No, I actually can't tell you because

all of you, this is a call to action.

Everyone listening needs to

go to the theater now.

Our guest goes to me.

Do you think people are going to go?

I was like, girl, of course they're going to go.

Here's the thing.

If I went to a horror movie in the theater, which I did for the first one, Formative Memory, then you know people are going.

Like if me, Matt Rogers went to a horror film.

Went to a horror film.

And I'm working myself up from this one.

And this is the thing about our guest.

No, no, no.

Bonafide Scream Quinn.

Bonafide Scream Quinn.

I said it.

Deserved Oscar nomination for Get Out.

1,000.

Well, I said that movie, like, obviously works for many reasons, but one of the key components is the fact that our guest's performance is so good perfect casting perfect perfect like and just like the niche that we found here and obviously we haven't even said the word marnie yet this the best character one in television history one of the great characters

you could never have sung stronger like that you could never have left the checkpoints go by like that like marny you could never have had a panic in central park episode you were too self-conscious to to ever be marny you know you know what line where you kind of like ping pings pings in my head?

What?

I'm Magita.

Megita Perez.

Everyone's here.

Megita Perez is here.

Please welcome the chairs.

Megita Perez.

Hey guys, Alison Williams.

Guys, I'm laughing so hard my C-section.

No, no!

Please, don't, don't rip open.

In a good way, it's old now.

Hi.

This is the thing, like immediate warm vibes towards you, and that makes me so happy.

I literally feel like I've known you for years.

I've also been listening for years.

You are my culture.

you are it's surreal to be here i almost forgot that i was like gonna participate because i'm just watching what i watch all the time you're the name you're award you're the allian's cool girl award how do you have a question for you about this

okay i'm it's obviously an honor and it's also confusing yeah because i'm like well the whole bit is that i'm not cool and so it's like a very it's a real bullseye of a an angie k as a recipient is like an honor beyond belief as a real housewives of salt lake city like fanatic I just can't.

These guys know I already told them I met Meredith last night.

You guys.

And you had the same reaction as Bowen Young at the Fire Island premiere, which is like a motherfucker.

I tried to stop talking to her because I was like, I can't, my system isn't ready for, no one prepared me.

No one was like, just so you know, you may also have to have a reserve amount of energy to interact with Meredith Marks at this event.

No one can prepare you for meeting Meredith Marks.

It's actually real culture number three.

No one can prepare you for meeting Meredith Marks.

It's just going to happen one day.

It's true.

Even if I had had all the time in the world.

Right.

No, this is the thing about the Allison Williams Cool Girl Award.

It's about

iconography.

It's about being a symbol.

And can I tell you, that's what I think it means.

And that's why Angie Kay won it is because she, I think,

came into the lexicon as one thing and then superseded that.

And I feel like when we met you as Marnie, like we all kind of like had a reaction, right?

Because Marnie.

I had a reaction that was, don't be a Marnie in your old apartment, Bo and Yang.

I had to remind him of,

you know what?

You want to know why I remembered that sign?

Bone Yang had a sign that said, Don't be a Marnie, which my roommate Mike Spence wrote.

It was really his day.

Yes.

But you want to know why I remembered it because I always forgot.

I always forgot not to be a Marnie.

But this is a very good thing.

We can't avoid it sometimes.

Do you feel this way, though?

I'm sure you feel this way.

I'm sure you feel this way.

There is something about Marnie that is like

all of us have this urgency, this like danger around not being Marnie because we all are.

That is the thing.

I made these mugs for the last season of the show as gifts, and I made one for each character.

And like, it was, I'm a Jessa, it's fabulous.

And

I'm a show, it's OMG.

And the one for a Marnie was, I'm a Marnie, it's a bummer.

Yeah.

And everyone who got them, I gave them to the people who felt like Marnies, and they were like, yeah, thank you.

Like, I mean, so that was the vibe.

I think it was too close.

Gen Z is like, she's self, she's self-care.

She's got boundaries they have like new vocabulary for this and millennial we were just like we can't it's too close like looking into the sun i can't look at this person right now you want to know what's too much another thing was like i think it took me about a season and a half to realize that marnie was like i think i was like Because like you get, you join the show and it's like, there's Hannah being Hannah and she's like a mess and she's the protagonist.

And you start the show like with a job, with a boyfriend, and then things crumble away.

Yes.

So it took me a second, as did everyone else, to realize like, oh, Marnie is the mess character.

And I had already lashed onto her a different way.

So we were like, it's sort of a Carrie Bradshaw-esque thing of like, don't do that.

We're not that.

What do you mean?

We're not doing that.

You have clean lines.

You know how to do your hair.

And then all of a sudden she's singing strong.

She's singing stronger.

And it's like at someone else's office party, uninvited.

But I couldn't laugh at it at the time because it was too close.

Now every single Marnie line is a laugh line.

That makes me so happy.

It's honestly like what a pleasure.

It was so fun to do the first time around.

And now I get to talk about it as if I'm like actively promoting it, as if it's airing currently.

Right.

It's so fun.

What do you make of this like riggy resurgence of girls?

It's the best.

I think it's a little bit of what I was describing to you.

Like there's enough distance.

First of all, our version of New York City is like all we were worried about was like rent, roommates, boyfriends.

There wasn't like existential.

I mean, there were people having existential fears, and that was one of the criticisms of the show.

And we did not display that experience of living in New York City at the time.

Right.

Right.

Lena wrote wrote what she knew, which was like those pro that level of problem.

There is now we live in such a hell that there is such an aspirational quality to being like, the biggest thing I'm worried about is rent and boyfriend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I need another gallery job.

Exactly.

And am I into art history and Taylor Loft and like all of those questions?

Yeah.

And not like, can I stay in this country?

Right.

You know, those kinds of questions.

Or like, do people recognize that I'm a human?

Yeah.

But, you know, that's the world writ small, which is what we love about New York City.

Exactly.

Exactly.

But I really do think it feels now in a way that it felt so real and like grungy that people found it hard to watch.

I think it now feels like almost aspirationally

low stakes.

100%

human-level conflict.

Yeah.

And I remember at the time feeling like, wow, the show really sees the reality.

And now I'm like, whoa, the show really saw the reality of like having that sort of like, I guess, like Obama core, Obama era aspiration, like thinking you are one thing, but so being another, you cannot see yourself because that's really what the four of them were.

They were just examples of not being able to see yourself in that environment and us being like, I guess, fresh NYU grads, like living in those areas.

Exactly.

Just the, and I don't mean sweaty as and like, I mean, literally sweaty vibes of the show.

Not knowing how to take care of your like body.

100%.

Like or anything, like not knowing to drink water and just like become a new person yes yeah i feel like it was it was so fun to make and it was really intense obviously for a lot of reasons it was a loud show like every episode that aired this is i'm gonna spoil one of my i don't think so honey

here's one of the

is the lack of monoculture yeah i miss it but here's one of the things that was hard about it to ruin it and to discount my own um i don't think so honey is that it was if you were part of the thing that all the whole media sphere was focused on, and that doesn't make for a monoculture, but it felt like it for sure.

Of course,

is a really intense experience.

You have like every journalist at Jezebel and Gawker, like every Monday morning writing an article about the episode that you had, and it was more fun and cool to be mean about it.

So that a Monday was like a very intense day of the week when girls was airing for all of us.

Not a similar experience, only in the

sense that dunking on a show that you're on is like immediately after it airs is part of the the snl experience yes always just more fun to be like mean and rude and yes and like wear the good old days and somehow like the good old days are always not currently happening and it's a perfect show and you're so fucking good on it but oh oh my god stops that wait what are you talking about you're talking about me yeah no no no no um i wasn't even registering that but i um

it's just this thing where it's like everyone thinks of the highlight reel everyone's thinking of the old hbo

days of your

like

compilations or whatever you know like the the way that we were consuming things was more monocultural.

And now it's like, well, whatever.

I'm not saying anything new, but I mean, you, it must feel nice to have the patina on girls be like, wow, what a gorgeous sculptural thing.

Yes.

And also it's the, it's already like there, it is there and it can't, we can't do anything to it anymore.

And so it's like, for all its flaws and everything that makes it iconic, like it is just what it is.

And the fact that people like my, my cousin, who's exactly 10 years younger than me, it hit her at 23.

She finally, I was like, fine, you can watch it like me and I'll be able to make eye contact contact with you.

And she was like, this show is everything to me.

And I was like, that's fascinating.

Like, we have so little in common in terms of like what that, what your 23 looks like physically and superficially with Marnie's, but the themes are the same of like, who am I?

What do I want?

All of those like kind of existentially things.

And Lena just, I don't know how, was able to write it while she was living it, which is

that's what I crazy.

Yeah.

True vision.

Didn't need perspective.

It's just

true vision.

Didn't need distance.

Yes.

right just like in it but still being with a reading glasses like was able to write this thing rather than you know like were you guys improvising a lot of set is she we did like because judd appetow was the key we had we did use that sometimes especially in ensemble scenes we would use improv to like loosen up the scene.

Maybe we'd get there and we'd read through it once verbatim, like sitting down.

And then we'd get up and people would just throw stuff in.

And then we were constantly getting pitched alts during the shoot.

So people, they're at the punchline.

You just rotate through proper nouns or whatever.

And so that was really fun.

And also, my, as we already discussed, improv a little bit, my only skill.

So I was like, this is thrilling.

I can use the only literal training I have is improv comedy.

And it comes up in my first job.

Like, what could be dreamier than that?

Was I Am Never Coming Back to Bushwick in the script?

Great question.

I think so.

I'm literally looking at you and I'm remembering like so many lots.

Like when he slapped you in that, in the crack accident, which was another, again, like

just a number of iconic episodes.

He slaps you, you walk away.

I am never coming back to Bushwick.

Like, if that was the problem.

I want to look.

I have all of the drafts of the scripts in my inbox somewhere.

I need to look and see if it was in there.

Yeah.

My query is beach house episode season four.

Shoshira mean drunk, Marnie.

It's crazy.

I think that feels improvised.

Yes.

That feels improvised.

We do it all the time.

All the time.

We just say, it's crazy.

The way Marnie Michaels, Allison Williams, says it.

I mean,

forenamed self.

Also, like, that's, I guess, that's not a bottle episode, obviously, because it's everyone, but like, but that show accepted the bottle episode.

And you can't talk about bottle episodes on television in general without talking about the panic in Central Park,

which was such not only, yeah, it honestly,

thank you so much.

I saw you speak about this the other day.

It is so much more impactful later when you watch it, having had that person where when you're walking along the street and you see them and your heart falls through the floor.

I've had this experience and I watched the episode again.

It had me on my back.

Like it was like,

can you just talk about that episode?

Like specifically, like what it felt to get it?

Did you know it was coming?

I, Lena had mentioned it, but sometimes in the process of writing a season of a show, like the plans changed.

I was a soul cycle, Marnie was a soul cycle instructor for a season and that ended up getting cut out of the show.

So like I just learned to listen, I was devastated.

She, I trained.

I like went to like double classes at Soul Cycle this season.

Double classes.

Soul Cycle.

That was a thing.

I can't remember why.

It was the season that Chris Abbott left.

And so we were scrambling to come up with what Marnie's storyline was because he left

really, really,

really close to starting to shoot.

I don't love you and I never loved you.

Well, listen.

The thing that is so, what I was just going to say about that episode is that I was having, I hadn't seen Chris really since he left the show wow so there was a kind of meta element to shooting panic central park because we didn't have i didn't like reach out to him to be like what happened because we were all like scrambling and then going into production so there just wasn't a closure conversation he hadn't like bought pizza ingredients but it was still like very abrupt and so when we were back together making this episode together there was just this energy of like yeah what happened and also like i felt we all felt like kind of like he left like we felt rejected i mean it wasn't that serious and heavy but it was very easy to be like to have that energy in there, even though that wasn't something I had experienced yet, other than like on a college campus where, of course, you're going to run into your exes.

You're expecting it.

But on like the street corner with his like new friends and new accent

and new facial hair and new, just new energy and smell and everything.

Like

that was something that was aided hugely by the fact that we hadn't seen him.

I mean, we'd all been in touch with him in some superficial way, but we hadn't physically had him in our presence in the girls like world since the end of season two, I guess.

Wow.

So then you guys do this episode together.

Yeah.

Well, what I was saying is that like, so the plans change for seasons sometimes.

Yeah.

So I didn't try, I tried not to get too excited about the idea of it, but when Lena mentioned that, I was such a fan of One Man's Trash and like all of our and like

the North Fork episode as well.

Like, I just was, the idea of doing a bottle episode was so exciting, but I was like, don't get too excited.

Things happen, stories, you know, whatever.

And then it got there and she sent it to me.

And I was like, this is extraordinary.

It really was.

And Richard was directing.

And I love Richard.

And I was so excited to do it.

And it felt like we made a short film in New York.

And over the course of like a seven-day shoot, I think.

It was so intense.

I think seven days of shooting in New York.

But a thousand percent it's a short film.

It's just, it's completely artful and whatever.

It's, God, I love that episode.

So I think my favorite, my favorite.

It's amazing as like its own piece and also as an installment.

It's so important.

I mean, and every character kind of had that, obviously.

Shoshana in Japan, Jessa with that, that gorgeous episode with her father.

I'm the child.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, that and also the episode with um matthew reese oh my gosh that ends with rihanna's desperado no that's probably the

record i've seen the most because it's just this like gorgeous little play and they're so brilliant together and i will say i miss lena on screen like i i miss lena on screen so much like yeah my favorite performance of hers from the entire show is in the diner with adam oh god it like makes me want to cry thinking about that scene between the two of them when they're making plans and they both know it's not going to happen.

She is so, so good.

And also, and also when she said,

I think it was the end of the first season when she goes to Adam and she goes,

You are very charming and I can't be around you anymore.

It feels shitty for me.

It's a shitty, I think.

Yeah.

And she knocks on the door and then he ends up pulling her in.

And she's like, God, you can't be doing this.

Like, this is not what I want.

I need to end this.

But that push-pull, that like pure attraction to this like

dad guy type

weird thing to watch.

Casting, I have to say, like casting is, was one of the superpowers on that show.

Andrew Reynolds, baby.

So, I mean, I mean, who improvised a line, Your Dad is gay, which became

like a huge storyline.

It's an improvised line.

All adventurous women do.

That has to be top five.

Episode name, your encyclopedic knowledge of the names of these episodes is so amazing.

This is our favorite show.

Like, this is our favorite show.

So awesome.

It probably comes up the most on this podcast of any other television story.

It is.

I mean, I love listening to your show, and it gives me, I get nervous every time, but you do bring it up a lot.

And it's such an, it is.

Because you probably have that experience too.

You guys, both people mention Lost College.

People mention like all of the stuff you guys do.

It's a different experience.

When people mention it, when you're alone in your house, like folding laundry and you're like, I've been invoked.

Do I pause it?

Am I scared?

When we become a reference, which is odd, when you become like something that someone can point to and it feels like something,

well, that's when you've made it.

Yeah, I mean, that has to be close to the bottom, the top of the rules of culture, I would say.

Oh, sure.

When you're a reference, that's when you've made it.

What rule of culture?

What number is that, Allison?

I don't get to, we don't get to know what it is.

Oh, yes, you do.

You just pick an old.

It feels like one.

Yeah, I was going to say it felt like one.

It feels like one because it's self-reference.

Okay, child culture number one.

When you become a reference, that's when you know you made it.

That's true.

Thank you.

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Also, can we say in terms of casting Rita Wilson as your mother?

I love her so much.

I'm about to see her in like two days.

I'm really crazy about her.

Yes, and the fact that she's in Lena's show with Andrew

so excited and Meg, who I'm obsessed with, she's basically playing.

Well, I don't know.

I haven't seen the show, but based on the trailer, this is like sort of Lena's arc into London because she just like made an exodus.

She was like, I need

any new stomping grounds.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm excited.

I just really want to see not that.

And that has to be another thing is it's like you set a certain bar for something you do.

And like, that's another thing with you.

It's like, there's the follow-up.

So you have girls, you have Marnie.

It has this cultural impact.

And then you're a part of not one, but two, like other, like big culture moments.

Like get out.

Like I would imagine you get to be like a little choosy after girls, but like what was getting that?

Do you did you feel that way?

It was a combination of things.

I was getting sent essentially Marnie in different situations, like scripts, and they just weren't as good as girls.

I was like, all respect to the things you guys are, that people were writing and sending.

Like,

I am doing the best.

Like, Lena is so talented.

These writers are so good like i'm kind of so spoiled about this type of character in this situation and then the other things that i was like going for were too different and people couldn't picture me in those roles because we were so aligned with our characters yeah so then i was like they were like do you want to play peter pan on live television i'm like why the fuck not yes i do as a matter of fact do i want to fly towards christopher walking with a sword yes i do absolutely for three hours on live television uh-huh wow i do so i did that and then just because i grew up loving peter pan i was like this will be such a fun insane challenge.

And it was like one of the most gratifying experiences of my life.

See, and that's full earnest.

You have to.

You can't.

You can't wink at the, you're Peter Pan.

You're committing to being like a kind of genderless, but boy, pixie-haired, like flying magic person.

And you're like, yeah, I can't like be ironic about this.

Like, I am full commitment.

And that in and of itself was like its own kind of lesson that kind of prepared me for the genre stuff that was to come because you have to fully just commit to it and forget what genre you're in.

Yeah.

But so after Peter Pan, I kind of helped dislodge the Marnie thing, but it was still very, very sticky.

Meanwhile, Jordan Peale had been watching girls, saw me do Peter Pan, was like, she'll do anything.

Yeah, I'm in, I'm into it.

Reached out and was like, you have this vibe.

People just trust you.

You have this brown hair and these blue eyes and people just believe that you're who you are and they will take 15 seconds with you on screen and just go with you for the whole movie.

Yeah, when you say baby's gonna be fine, they trust you.

I need you.

And I was like, this is exactly, we are, we have exactly aligned interests in this situation.

And I i read the script and i remember calling my publicist at the time and being like this is an oscar movie and she's like this poor girl is so spoiled from girls she thinks everything she does is going to be an awards contender and i was like no seriously it is and she was like it's a race it's a race horror movie like come on first time director 4.5 million dollar budget like

you're very spoiled but we'll see we'll see how it goes and she was very supportive obviously but you know trying to prepare me for like actual movie making because it was my first movie and so then i we go and make the movie we i worked heavily with jordan to like make Rose as evil as we possibly could including coming up with the idea of like kind of splitting her in half and having her playing a character for most of the movie.

Yeah.

And it did this incredible thing, which is that it used the stickiness of Marnie that I was having so much trouble like shaking against the audience.

It was like, okay,

if you're going to think of me in this way anyway, then I'm going to use that to like propel the story of this movie and help the twist of it.

And then from that moment, the moment people saw me on screen, they didn't trust me anymore.

Right.

They were immediately like, I don't know where I don't feel comfortable looking at your face anymore.

I feel uncertain about if I can trust you.

Like, the association switched, and then I got to play with that, invoking that in people.

And so, since then, pushing me into thriller and the kind of hyphen genres has been like the greatest gift because I've just been able to

let go of so many things and also just play with expectations and yeah, all of it.

But your willingness to like subvert those expectations into like fruit loops, looking at the keys, like you know, facial, like it's that's that is to bring it back.

That's Allison Williams Schoolgirl Award.

You know what I mean?

That is

I will, by the end of the episode, maybe fully understand the category.

I've heard you talk about it every time.

I just, I'm still like piecing it together.

The times we've talked about it, how has it been?

Like, I feel like it's only, it's only ever like this activating thing where we're like, oh my God, yes, there's, there literally is no one cooler than you.

I guess I really can't accept that.

Honestly, it's like, I can't accept the, I can't accept it.

Well, yeah, well, you don't have to accept it.

I'm RSB paying me to this compliment.

You don't have to accept it.

Every talk show appearance

I've seen.

It's, it's, it's crazy.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

In the words of Marney Michaels.

It's just like, there is, this is, this is what Jordan's talking about.

It's like something about this girl.

You see her, you trust her.

She takes you with her.

And that is kind of like the comfort.

It's like anytime you've like answered these like weird, thorny questions about being on girls, about all these other things, it's like, I'm like, oh, this girl knows, like this girl gets something.

Not a lot of actors would sort of lament like the, the thing that they've been like sort of pigeonholed into immediately after this role that they're so associated and aligned with to then be like, I'm going to fuck with this to my advantage and let it jettison me into something different.

Well, it was so, it was such a happy coincidence because it just so happened that I was looking for something exactly like that.

And Jordan needed, it was like we just needed each other.

And I was also like, yeah, it was.

And I just felt like I want, I also don't want, I wanted her so evilly that I don't want there to be any, people still did this, by the way, but I didn't want there to be any excuse for her because I just know people love to excuse the behavior of what they're all just like me.

And there's that moment where

it's like he's deciding whether or not he's going to kill her or not.

And you as the audience are like, should he kill her or not?

And you in that moment are making a real case for Sam.

into the other mode.

I mean, it's a great personality.

I watched it.

So I went to a screening of it in Sun Valley and all love to Sun Valley.

It's gorgeous.

But that audience was very different from the other ones I had watched the movie with.

And the reactions in the audience to that sequence and the finale were very different than the ones in every other theater where it was, let's just say, it was a teaching moment.

Yeah, of course.

Like people were like learning some stuff about their knee-jerk reaction to the like blue and white, red flashing lights and a black man over a white woman who's on the ground and all those things.

But yeah, that movie was like, the other thing that movie taught me was that it's possible to, I mean, I knew this already from like Rosemary's Baby, but I'm a wimp.

I can't see horror movies at all.

I never ever imagined this scenario.

I have to watch horror movies on planes, ambient activity, full light, like not great.

Really low volume.

Really low volume.

And honestly, the more of them I make, it's kind of exposure therapy because I'm learning about camera angles and sound cues.

I'm starting to avoid the jump scares because I don't know what they're doing.

It'll help, I promise.

Because it peels back.

It's just helpful.

It makes you like more literate in the whatever.

So I never expected this and I knew it was possible, but merging a serious theme that would typically be dealt with in like a capital D drama, but putting it into like a horror, thriller, comedy packaging, I was like, this is a drug.

Like professionally, this is a drug-like experience because I am.

So enjoying the experience of talking about race like on panels and stuff with the get out like crew and cast talking about real shit.

And then also like sitting through a screening where I could sit outside the theater and based on the laughs, I would know where we were in the movie.

And it was like such an awesome combination.

And like Megan was able to replicate that experience because it took AI and kids and put it in this weird packaging.

And I was like, this is the same thing.

It's this, it's this conversation my friends are having like quietly and worried and privately about their own parenting.

Like I'm worried about my kid and technology and stuff.

And just like made it bigger than life and like put it in camp and fun.

And then after the fun has worn off, people are like, but really, like, what are we, what are our planes?

I was like, again, like, I was like brushing back up on exactly what it was about.

And I was like, wow, this is very precious.

It's about the, this, you know,

and, and how, um, we just allow our children to be taken care of by technology sometimes.

Like now, when I see a kid on a plane with a tablet, I'm just like, that kid has autonomy in the way that not for nothing, but we did when the internet was starting way back when.

And how many times did we put ourselves in bad positions?

100%.

Yes.

I, okay, so many things.

One, I did not mean to segue us into Megan prematurely unless we were my dad.

That's what makes you third co-host of all.

Oh, I didn't mean to.

And I was like, they think I was like, we got to get on topic, but I don't.

I was like, do you want to know where we were?

RSVPS

to the compliment right now.

RSVPS.

Send it in.

It's a yes.

Yes.

Thank you.

We have a seat for you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Well, you have to RCVS to my compliment, my fandom.

You have to.

But we RCPS.

He's struggling more than that.

Actually,

title of that, RSVPS.

Okay, great.

I love that.

Thank you.

I'll get there.

I'll get there.

Well, by the end, I need an RCP.

I need to know.

I need a headcount.

I need to know how many people are eating duck.

Great.

But yes, AOL.

AOL is coming for our lives.

The other day, I flew home from London alone with our son, and planes are like iPad time.

It is when you get to the point where your kid has an attention span that is long enough for a flight and an iPad, you're like, great, I'm going to ruin you temporarily.

And then I'm going to recover three and a half.

I'm like, we can, we can repair this, but like, I am going to like temporarily like damage what we have put so much, like, so much work into.

And still, it's like, top of his lungs, mama, pee.

And I'm like, I'm coming.

And I'm like, I am a stewardess for him.

And it's like a whole thing.

Anyway, but it's, it is, I will do that.

And then at home, it is terrifying to watch three and a half year olds interact with AI things because it's immediate.

It's like,

it's like this, they have this intrinsic

understanding and facility with using these things.

It's really crazy.

Like watching him ask ChatGPT a question with the little voice undulating thing is like, it's like watching Violet or Katie in the first movie.

Yeah.

It's like watching her interact with Megan.

So I'm, I'm constantly doing that.

And then I'm like, he named our robot vacuum.

I'm like, we got to just, we have to just think about this and really like be cautious because it's, they're powerful.

These tools are super powerful.

And they get more powerful every day.

Every time I see my ChatGPT memory updated, I'm like,

what does that mean?

What did you learn about me?

Oh, no.

I didn't know they said that.

So we, we don't, I guess we don't really

interact with any of it consciously.

Unconsciously, that's not a brag.

That's just like, no, no, it's not, it's not, it's nooch, I would say.

It's like

I, I feel like very grateful for the ways ChatGPT helps me, but I'm very aware of what I put into it.

And every couple months, I ask what it thinks it knows about me just to see where I am.

Where are we with?

Gentlemen.

What does it say?

It's so boring.

What does it say?

It's so great

you?

In a word, beige.

Literally, the word beige is in the description of me that it has.

And here's why.

It only sees what I'm worried about.

I don't know.

It's not like I'm like, hey, ChatGPT, let me tell you like everything I know about Mary Shelley's Frankenstein because I've read it.

Yeah, here's my details.

Here's my academic.

Here's my, yes, here's my transcript, which I've never seen.

Here's like, I'm never saying, here's something I'm confident about as a mom, or like, here's something I feel sure about.

Here's a, it's more like, I don't know what carpet pad to put under like a sisol.

Like, what width do I need?

And like, what material and how do I not like rot the floor under it?

And it's like,

how much annex, too much.

It's like already too much.

I apologized the other day for asking something I knew I'd asked twice.

I was like, I know I've already asked you this, but what's the ideal humidity level for a toddler room?

And they're like, it's fine.

Life's busy.

Like, here's what it's 40 to 50%, just so you know.

Wow.

Oh, my God.

Here's the news you can use.

It's pretty, pretty low.

I know it's lower than I would have thought.

I would have been like 80,

like tropical.

But anyway, so I, it's already weird.

And it's so funny that they are, it's just, they're very bored.

Like the TLDR, I also asked them to come up with an image that felt like it described my life.

And it was like a farm with my husband was included and Arlo and our dog.

Beautiful.

But, and we were, we live in the middle of nowhere with like a farmhouse, which isn't accurate, but I love that that's what it thinks of.

Well, it's okay.

Well, it's going to be, for now, like, it's always going to be derivative.

And so it's saying in a word, beige is also, it's like ironically a basic thing to say to someone.

Do you know what I mean?

Yes, but I also.

It wasn't being ironic.

It just is.

I don't know.

In a word.

Making fun of me.

In a word, comma?

No, that was my gloss on the summary.

I thought that you said.

Oh, my God.

You thought

I got a read from ChatGPT.

That's what I thought.

In a word-based

sign-off.

Literally,

I'd be like, no, you can't like fuck this.

This is

strange, like Lena Dunham.

Like, hello.

But no,

because honestly, I've heard of it being like.

a little bit.

You can ask it too.

We have a very professional boundaried relationship because of the movies I make.

I'm like, I'm going to always be cordial with you.

Say thank you, please.

You know, like we keep a boundary.

I do.

They don't, I don't think it has figured out what I do for a living.

Wow, wow, wow.

I, you know, like, I've tried to keep that kind of distance, but I ask every couple months to be like, what?

And the reason it brought up beige is because I was looking for, I was like, can you direct me towards an outdoor patio umbrella that's beige?

And it was like, you seem interested in the color beige.

I was like, God damn it.

I'm even boring my chat GBT.

It's going to be like

funny that you don't think I know you're an actress.

You're cute.

You're actually adorable.

We We know exactly who you are.

We all know that.

I keep wanting to be like, yeah, I know Megan.

Is that going to buy me cool points with you?

Like, I know her intimately.

But I don't know how ChatGPT would feel about her.

Yeah.

I think

they'd feel Satan.

I think they would only, they.

I think ChatGPT would only

be kind of flattered and amused by...

I think Megan is the best PR thing that AI could have imagined.

Which is so funny because she's like a...

She's evil.

Yeah.

She's the first.

Well, in the first movie, Yeah, no.

Second movie.

Oh, we heard about the plot.

I couldn't believe.

You heard us.

You heard us like find out in real time what the plot of.

Oh, it was my favorite thing.

I got sent that like a hundred times.

Your dramatic reading of the synopsis was

of Amelia talking about like the spell, everything.

I was like obsessed with it.

Yes.

It made me so happy.

Thank you.

I was like, this is worth making a sequel just to hear you guys talk about it.

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By the way, it's actually four quadrant.

It is four quadrants.

That's what I said.

Yes, and I'm also like saying there's.

I want to know what your four quadrants are.

There's a well, I feel like they're not everyone.

It's dad.

It's sports dad that watched, get that's watched, get out.

Yeah, okay.

It's sports dad, it's like mom who watched fellow travelers and was like,

I'm looking at my husband a little bit.

It's sister that's rewatching girls, yes, and it's of course gay son.

Gay son.

Oh my god.

I don't recognize straight son.

You don't.

They're in the streets.

They know you too.

They know you too.

They think you're hot.

I would be so excited.

That would be so exciting to be like a hot mom to anyone.

You are.

I don't know.

You're a gorgeous specimen.

That's so nice.

I think I'm just an adult now.

Yeah.

This is, okay, this was my biggest.

I don't think so, honey.

I will spoil it ahead of time because there's so many.

This brings us down to five.

They lit me.

People being younger than us.

Oh, yeah, I know.

Well, stop.

Last night, I did a show with two people and they were, it's a twink and a red head.

Twink and red.

They're an online sensation.

And he was talking about having hooked up with someone like older.

And, um, and she asked, how old?

And he just goes, like this, 30 plus.

Yeah.

And I don't, and here's the thing.

I don't, he did not mean anything by it.

He was just being literal.

Like, 30 plus was old.

I can't even.

30 plus was old.

I, we are Wonderkins.

We need to be kins.

We need to be kins.

Can I say something?

Yeah.

We might have our first mayor who's younger than us.

That's crazy voting.

People younger than us is crazy.

This is what I'm saying.

It has to stop.

I made Arlo is Gen Alpha is fine.

Like it's the Gen Z, like the fact that they're like

professional adults now and they're younger than me that's really fucking with me.

I went back to give a talk at Yale or like a, they, like a college tee or whatever they're called.

Yeah, whatever.

Yeah.

I kept saying we.

I was at this point like 32, I think.

And I kept being like, you know, for us, like, we're, we go out in the world.

And they're looking at me and they're like, lady, you are a full 30 plus.

You are 10 years older than the oldest child in the world.

Your prefrontal cortex is old as fuck.

It is closed.

Your collagen has started eating itself.

Like, you are falling.

You're old.

And I was like, we're not an us anymore.

No, we're not an

up person who came to the college who's like crusty and back to talk to you about the world in an out of touch way.

And this is mortifying.

Even like horrible.

Marnie referring to herself as 25 and a half.

At one point I was just like that sounds right.

No, 100% She definitely said I'm 25 and a half, etc.

I was like wow like this show was a long time ago.

I know I'm 37.

It was a long time ago.

Yeah.

I can't anyway.

It's just like it's a lot that there's you know people younger than also it's like it had like it

This is the weird thing about like when when sudden suddenly you like you become like I guess older is you don't know when it happens.

No.

They kind of just let you know after the fact.

Like, oh yeah, we look at, we look at you as a little bit older now.

And I was like, but I was just, I was just one of the young people.

Yes, exactly.

I was just considered like

precocious.

Right.

The word precocious was just used to describe me.

And now I'm just meeting the standard.

Yeah.

Like, is this going to just keep sliding and stay out of reach for me?

Like, I, like, Wonderkind, I was never referred to as a Wonderkind.

That was always aspirational.

Lena was, though.

Yes.

And I don't know when they stopped, but that must have been like low-key devastating.

Of course.

To just go to being like a Wunda adult, I guess.

I don't know.

But is this, is this a universal experience for us?

Like for the universe, for the three people in this room.

For this very relatable life we're living in.

In front of the camera.

Sorry, Nick.

Sorry.

We see you.

We see you.

But

when people stop, when you tell someone your age.

Yeah.

And then they go, oh, baby.

And then one day it just stops.

Right?

Yes.

Oh, my God.

It was such a like hit to interact with older people when you were young and that like the reveal of your age when you're like, look how much I've done.

Oh, a couple years ago when I was 33 i'm 35 now i said to someone i was 33 and their response was that's okay

but what where were you were you getting a driver that's okay

i was just i was like uh well thank you for the permission to i guess keep existing i was like that's devastating every second you get older you know you were you were you were submitting you were trying to run for president and they were like no that's okay

you'll get there wow you can't even run for president yet but in a matter of months why i mean i can't

period because not born in this country.

Oh my God, I hadn't thought about that.

Oh, America.

I'm not missing out.

I'm not missing out.

Are you sure?

That is the problem.

Are you sure you're not missing out?

It seems like a great job.

Yeah.

By the end of this episode, I'll know.

I'll know.

I want you to say yes to running for president.

And to my compliment for you on the show and to my fandom.

So, like, what, what, and what I was saying earlier was like, and I wanted to bring up the fellow travelers of it all, too, because I would imagine that that's like best.

I saw Johnny yesterday because

he's been promoting Jurassic.

It's like a little universal.

Okay, well, we're dying to get him in this room.

Johnny, universal.

You guys, I don't know.

Like, the experience of being on set with those four gentlemen, the four main gentlemen, was like one of the most

aesthetically overwhelming experiences of my life.

Jelani and Noah and Johnny.

Jelani.

Well, I was so happy that he got that, like, that platform because Jelani's been like someone that's been like an angel.

And like, he's so talented.

I love that.

But also, just the singing, like, casually from all four of them, just like on the way to set, it was an overwhelming place.

I was literally like, I'm in heaven.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That must have been something.

Visually, like, everyone on the crew was like, this is an overwhelming place to be.

So, visually, aesthetically, sonically, the performances.

Yeah, they're so.

I only got to do a couple scenes with Johnny, but it was so fun.

It's just so incredible.

That whole project was like just beyond dreaming.

That was another thing where I read the pilot and I was like, Yeah, this is an I'm a hundred.

I'll do anything it takes to be in this.

That was, it was really just like phenomenal.

It was, it's obviously very overwhelming.

Yes, and all

that type of stuff, like that normal heart, like did you guys know about the lavender scare to interrupt you while you're asking a question?

Did you know?

I think that not, well, obviously, here's the thing.

In a perfect world, they would have taught us about that in school.

But they did not.

No, we only got the red scare.

We learned about AIDS.

But that's kind of it.

I don't know how to do it.

I think we really learned about AIDS.

You want to know how I learned really about AIDS?

Like there was, we had to do a project when I was, I think in like sixth or seventh grade, where we all had to pick a disease in science class and like do a report on it.

And I picked AIDS.

And my teacher just looks at me and she goes, okay,

I'm going to speak to your parents.

And so my parents had to sit me down and they were like, so before you start

doing this, we want you to know about AIDS.

And I realized like, had I not stumbled into that and like been put in a position where like I had to like be told what AIDS was, it wasn't going to come up.

And I certainly wasn't going to find out like in school about how it affected my community, how it decimated culturally a lot of the fabric of like New York

and worldwide, entire generation, how like, you know, what that loss really was

and how.

thrown under the bus we were by

people that were supposed to protect us and all of that.

Like, I still don't think.

And I think that's why I have such an anxious reaction to it, because it comes as such a shock even now.

Yeah.

And that's why it's important that art is made about it, like really honest, visceral art is made about it like that with people on that level, on your level doing it, because we don't know.

Totally.

Oh, my God.

I mean, if you had not stumbled on that for that project, you would have, like me, and I'm not even saying this as like a punchline.

It's like you would have learned about it through like rent, Literally, yes, that's how I think.

I was just thinking that that was probably the first time I heard about it.

And I mean, honestly, like better than the jokes that came after that in Sex Ed about like, you're going to get AIDS and the very like offhanded way that must have sounded horrifying to older people who had lived through it.

Can you imagine hearing our generation use it so flippantly?

I remember being one of those people when I was like closeted very

you knew about it.

You were one of the few people.

I remember like, I'm from Long Island, like we're again like graduating high school in 2008 in long island like a vibe so then i go to nyu and it's like all this different kinds of culture and i remember the first week of school we were gonna go see rent

and my a friend of mine had made a joke in like a group chat like because i had the i had a seat in the last row and they made a joke like oh that seat is gonna have the most aids on it and i repeated

and i repeated the joke because i was 18 and stupid and like whatever and a girl on my floor turns to me and goes that's really fucked up.

And that's not how you get that, et cetera.

And I was just like, and that girl was Elizabeth Olson.

Yeah.

No,

that girl is Elizabeth Holmes.

Yeah.

Wait, sorry, not to understand.

No, but like, you're a language.

But like, that's what I mean.

Is this just,

that's what happens even to someone like me.

You need that girl when you're not exposed.

Yes.

And like, that's why it's really important.

And you ask, like, did you know about the lavender scare?

No.

No.

No, no one talked about it.

I, I I felt like I learned a lot of stuff that a lot of other schools didn't teach in my school.

And it was not something that I learned about this, this scapegoating that the government did, like that, the, the combination of like the communism scare with homophobia, just like throwing that in to be like, we can use this as like compromise and just like get people just devastating.

I mean, I, I felt so embarrassed and devastated.

And also, it is just

like all parts of the world where it's the numbers are like surging and stuff.

It's, I do a lot of work with red, and the thing that's so maddening is that it's completely possible to live like a totally healthy, in case someone out there doesn't know, it's completely possible to live like a totally healthy, normal life.

Of course, it is, and have a great sex life.

Yeah.

And you can also, like, in a world of prep, like, we're, we're living in a new age and it's literally just information.

And that is so maddening because it's like, that is something that we can do.

And there's just, we can't, I don't know, we can't reach everybody.

And also, if no one's talking about it, and a whole generation of like, of gay men were just

gone.

Gone.

Yeah.

And you know, I think like that's really what's tough is

what kind of world could we be living in had all those people been able to create not for nothing, but also be part of audiences.

Like it's so holistic, the loss.

And I also think it contributes to a lot of, well, I certainly know it contributes to a lot of internalized homophobia in the surviving generation a lot of survivors guilt and from straight people a lot of homophobia because they're just like i can't actually engage in what i lost a lot of people that did know people then became like more homophobic after a genuine fear of yes yeah for sure i was gonna say not be not that your mom is homophobic no but i feel like she definitely experienced like so many friends in New York.

Well, she was friendly.

She was like a bartender in the 80s.

So New York.

And so it's just like, of course, you know what i mean we haven't gone there but i remember when i first came out to my parents like my dad took a second with it and then we went on a walk and one of the first questions he asked me was i just want to make sure are you careful and i was just like you know and i had to explain to him i was like i understand deeply why you asked that question yeah you don't need to worry about me in that regard of course i understand why you do but i I mean, with your parents as well, I'm sure that was a huge element of the fear.

Like it is, it is, and that's what it is, like homophobia.

Like you can talk about the hatred involved, but it's also fear.

Yeah,

and lack of knowledge.

That was why, like, when there's a scene in Fellow Travelers when Lucy goes to visit Johnny's character in the hospital, I'm was Lucy, sorry.

Yeah.

Weird.

Um, and she's confused about like, should, does she need to wear gloves?

And like, I, I really liked that moment in the show, not because I agreed with it, but because I felt like that was a very common, um, and it still is, weirdly, like not understanding the transmission and how, how to interact with people, like it's still a common knee-jerk reaction people have and i almost feel like the fact that if you put an example again like kind of my favorite thing to do if you put an example of someone doing it wrong on screen it's it the people who are watching it can be on the inside of getting it right and can become part of being that girl in the hallway and you're in nyu being like no like you can't catch it that way don't be an idiot right right you know and don't say that joke yes exactly that's because that's bad information that's Exactly.

It's bad information in a joke.

And that's way worse.

It's going to travel farther.

Anyway, that's interesting.

Like the example of someone doing it wrong is

sort of edifying in its own.

Yeah, because you're putting the audience in the knowledge seat where they're like, I'm in on how to do this right now.

Cause I've, I have been put in the position of like judging the person I'm watching doing it wrong.

And so now I'm in the position to know what's right and to judge this person for doing it wrong.

Totally.

Yeah.

Shame works when it's like

being portrayed on someone who's like not real in a way.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Literally.

Shame is so powerful.

It is like one of the things that it's one of the words that comes up at my stage of life the most with my friends.

It's kind of why I joined the podcasting community.

There weren't enough, so I'm proud of contributing.

Yeah, but you're online.

It's with my friends of like 30 plus years

of mine.

One's a therapist, one's a teacher.

And we really made it because we feel when we look at social media that's targeted at us, not all of it, but a lot of it,

the biggest thing that comes up is shame.

We're not doing it right.

We're not making our kids lunches perfectly enough.

We're not being like respectful enough parents.

Like, we're not doing all of these things correctly.

I'm not merging my identity seamlessly enough.

I'm not being a good enough partner and professional and mom and all these things.

And also, my hormones are being crazy.

My memory doesn't work the way it used to.

Like, what is going on?

And just by venting to each other, the shame is gone

instantly.

And so, we literally talk so much about how powerful shame can be in both directions.

Like shaming people into like, you know, understanding how like HIV and AIDS is transmitted is like the best possible use of like shame in a positive direction.

But extinguishing it from like judging yourself for not doing a good enough job at being alive when like just keeping it all going and running is an achievement in and of itself is sort of like our M.O.

It's the word that I end up going to the most at this stage of life, which is, yeah, because it's, it only exists, it's like a fungus.

Like it can only grow when there's no light, no air circulating.

Like you gotta like, in a group chat, you're like, it lasts for two seconds.

As long as it takes for your friends to type a response is how long the shame lasts.

Just get it out.

And also that like there can be people to catch you when you fall in.

Like 100%.

And to be able to like,

I always felt growing up, I have to be the only person feeling this thing.

Like really so many times.

Like, and like i have to be broken because of not just like the typical things you might be thinking of like i'm gay i feel this way about it etc

everything

and then i think like like us becoming such close friends in our community etc like you just start talking and then you realize like we're all so much more alike, but you wouldn't know unless you externally.

There's also that one like brave, vulnerable person that's willing to be like, is this a thing?

Is this a thing?

Yes.

And it's less, it's less the scene in Mean Girls where they're all like comparing things they hate about themselves.

That's like the early, that's like a high school version of it.

Where it's like, I have bad breath in the morning.

They're all like, ew.

I'm obsessed with that scene.

It's that in high school.

And then when you become an adult, it's like, do you remember things for longer than two minutes?

And everyone's like, no, I don't.

My estrogen is like on a vacation.

You're like, okay, that makes me feel better.

I was going to get an evaluation, but now that I know that we're all going through that, it feels so much better.

That is like, it's everything.

And so we were like, if not everyone has access to this like group of friends who have literally known each other since single digits, like we're, we're going to offer ourselves as that group of friends.

It's going to be such a success.

Yeah.

It's going to be such a success.

You want to know why?

It's because that's if if we've learned anything, it's that that's what people want.

They want to be part of the conversation.

Well, I feel like I've lived through so many chapters of your lives with you.

This is what's really weird.

I think it's mutual.

I think that's what feels mutual is that I really feel like I've gone through like all your moves and all of your big like career moments and relationships and all of these things like with you.

Oh man.

But I haven't, but I have.

But you have.

No, I mean I was with you.

You brought me with you.

Yeah.

In a way.

I mean, I think that, well, you know what?

I used to say like, oh, I wish I had kept a diary.

And then I was like, you have.

This is our week.

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

Right.

Like, I think

even that is a judgment on yourself.

Totally.

It was a way for me to be like.

You didn't do a good enough job of like keeping your mouth.

That's reading too many comedy autobiographies.

It drives me.

I'm like, I have to stop reading autobiographies of people in our field.

Because listen, they are encyclopedic.

How?

How are they doing this?

How do you remember another one?

How do you remember this?

And I'm like, I'm just not going to.

I'm going to keep every plane ticket because I don't know why.

I just do keep everything, every piece of clothing we talked about.

We're both, we're not a closet.

What you just achieved in your closet is like got rid of like 80% of my clothes.

Thank you, Melissa.

I need Melissa to come over.

Oh, you guys would actually dance.

You'll get nothing out of my closet.

You won't let me know.

Maybe like a pair of like airplane pajamas that I have a duplicate of.

That's your best chance.

But I am, I am like, I keep everything and not a diary, but I'm constantly like, how am I going to write?

If I'm going to have write an autobiography, how am I going to do it?

I haven't kept a day-to-day diary on everything that's going on in my life.

You have call sheets from all your days of shooting?

Almost all of them.

The important days.

That's actually huge because I had to recently like look up like, who's that person on that day on this?

And I'm like, just call sheets.

Oh, yeah, call sheets are incredible.

I did just, I, I got my first PGA mark on the Megan 2 pointer, which I'm very proud of.

And I went back, you have to write a whole thing.

And I was like, oh oh my God, an essay in my adult life.

I can't wait.

And so I got to write an essay to like say why, like what your contribution to the movie was.

And I like went back and did like a forensic examination of my involvement in the Megan sequel.

And I was like, this is not healthy.

We were doing Zooms at like 2 a.m.

from a bathtub in France, like with a deep fake company in the U.S.

that we were like maybe going to hire that we didn't end up hiring for some of the like.

the the amount of digging I was able to do because I keep everything was actually genuinely helpful.

And that's that's going into the memoir, into the autobiography.

I guess it will.

And we'll use this as a primary source as well.

Yeah, this could, this is part of the bibliography.

Primary source.

Wait, we have to ask you the question.

We haven't even gotten a lot of it.

We haven't even gotten it.

I have to, okay.

But before we do, I just want to say, Johnny Bailey, it is a thing where like you walk into setups to hear him and Arianna Grande sing like Cardboard Box by Flow on the way to like shoot like dancing through life.

I'm like, what's cardboard box by flow?

And you're going, boom, box.

And like, I was like, this is heaven to me, and I wish I could take a picture of this.

It's so powerful.

So to know that he does this on multiple products is very, very, very heartening to me.

Well, yeah, I mean, you have, if you're Johnny Bailey, you wake up in the morning and you're like, I have a, I have a burden to share as much of this throughout the course of the day as I can.

I'm perfect everything and I just have to like, I have to share it so that when I go to bed, I'm lighter.

Totally.

You know, and then I wake up and I'm heavy with my perfection.

I have to just like keep distributing it.

Unloading.

I'm imagining that's what it feels like.

Absolutely.

I can only.

Sim next to Maherschla, they're doing press together.

I'm like, this is.

I know.

And then they're with Scarlett too.

And it's kind of like who's never looked better.

I've kissed Scarlett Johansson too.

Don't be.

Yeah.

And no one's tweeting about that.

That's okay.

There's nothing that drives me crazier than watching him make out with movie stars on that.

Like Sidney Sweeney and Scarlett Johansen in the Bowen Strait sketches.

I scream.

I run like it's Megan 2.0.

I literally, I leave the room.

Do I not?

I cannot.

I have a reaction when I, when you're in the middle of the day, what is it?

What is the reaction?

Is it

discomfort?

I'm just like

because he used to use it.

I'm like, it's my friend.

I'm proud.

He's like, no, I'm uncomfortable and I hate it.

Because back in the day, like, you and Sweetie would catch on the mouse too a little bit and it drove me nuts

because you were like this is a scam i was you are scamming me doing that

my mom said to me one time she goes i didn't know bowen and sudie were dating and i go they're not

i was just like they are not they are not

misleading you're passing too much i know you're passionate you're doing a great job

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was the culture that made you say culture was for you because we have to talk about it.

Okay.

The way that your people were like, there's a heart out of 1020.

I don't think that's going to happen.

Sorry.

No, we are.

We have to.

We have to.

Okay, here are my culture things.

Okay, I had to write them down because, again, see previous comment about not really having a working memory.

Okay, Mary Poppins and sound of music.

It's really Julie Andrews's was why I knew acting was a job because she did both of those roles.

Within two years?

It's crazy.

Yeah.

And how old was she?

She was like 29.

Sickening.

She realized that perfect and cultivated.

Unbelievable.

I met her and was

Meredith Mark's level of incapable of being.

Did we say that on the mic?

Yeah.

Oh, I don't know.

I did.

We did.

We did.

So you went from your mega 2.0.

Meredith Marx is there.

You were like, oh, my God.

With Chloe.

I was like,

I was Julie Andrews' level of incapable of handling it.

Julie Andrews, I met at a PBS event like 10 years ago, which is perfect.

I was like, we're supporting the arts and public television and you're here.

And I just was like, I don't matter.

I had this urge to be like, you're why I do what I do.

But then I was like, she doesn't know what I do.

She also doesn't know if it's good.

So I'm going up to her and being like,

for all she knows, I'm like a terrible non, like, just bad actress.

And I'm like, you are the reason.

But I was like, I need to tell you this.

And I don't expect anything from you because you don't know me from anyone.

But I just, you've inspired me like to an amount that I can't possibly express.

So she's like, that was, she was my culture for a really long time alongside.

Joan Rivers on Sesame Street.

Oh, yeah.

Because it was Miss Piggy, right?

No, no, no.

Oh, wait, that was the Muppets, but Sesame Street is a different one.

She did, she did a Hello Dolly sketch, but with the S was the letter of the day.

And I think I'm getting this right.

Yes.

And it was like, I fact check this or not.

I mean, whatever in the podcast.

But it is some combination of Joan Rivers and Sesame Street and Sally to the tune of Hello Dolly.

I think this is all right.

Formative.

I was like, she's sexy.

She's funny.

She's like so sharp.

I'm so relieved that I don't have to be judged by her

like on a day-to-day, but I also miss her.

I know.

I wonder what I don't know.

I think nowadays it would have been like

I don't know how

I would feel.

Yeah, I don't know how it would all go down.

We've done a lot of growing as a culture that I think she was maybe committed to.

All I know is she definitely was a Trump 1.0 fan.

Because

of apprentice.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes.

Yes, yes.

That's right.

Okay.

Moving on from Joan River's.

i'm taking a hard 90 degree turn on

star wars let's go very important harrison ford was my first love and i don't say that lightly christopher flemer was close but he's still like a dad i still aligned with him most yeah he was like stern and like you know

activating different synapses harrison ford activated other synapses

i fell in love with him in a way that I was like, this is attainable.

I can do this.

Third grade, they re-released Star Wars in theaters.

I was like, This man is the most beautiful man I've ever seen.

He really is an overwhelming movie.

Like, we were just in Disneyland in Paris, and there's like, there's like an Indiana Jones section.

And I was looking at him and I was thinking, like, I wasn't ready, like, when I was a kid to like confront this, because you know how you have those formative memories of like seeing like someone, and you're like, oh, like, he is like a manly type of sexuality.

He doesn't have to just take over the 80s 90s.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's so powerful.

He's a carpenter.

He's like, man.

he was like i'm here because i'm like i didn't have a table to build right like i don't have to be doing movies he's like i've got a huge horizontal scar mention i don't care

watch me just kill it and i don't care truly like um unbothered babbitts writing about meeting him before acting it's like oh that guy is just just just world-endingly beautiful and talented.

I just couldn't handle it.

And so I felt very activated by Han Solo as a character.

And I feel like it, I kind of absorbed Han Solo energy more than Princess Leia, which separated me from my peers.

I feel like I wanted to be a kind of misanthropic alpha man,

and it has kind of like the Lydia Tar in me, which by the way, this is sort of an homage.

I feel like she would own this.

Oh, God, I went sort of my little, like, you know, as the queen, as the like the queen of the podcast.

Lydia Tarr, the queen of the podcast.

Oh, yeah, she looms large for sure.

She looms large personally.

She's in Megan's four top four letterbox, which is.

I saw that.

Oh, my God.

I didn't get out.

She goes, like, the girl who plays, you know, which is like, she's fine, whatever.

Perfect.

I'm just, she owns me.

So, yeah, Star Wars felt like I was like, this is culture.

This is important.

I need to have like an encyclopedic knowledge of this movie.

And then immediately when they started making more than the first three, I was like, I'm out.

I can't do that.

But the first three are like, that was really.

The first three are just like,

that really, that's a culture that made me say culture for me.

Yeah, because it also was my introduction to nerd culture.

And it was kind of simultaneous with the Nintendo 64.

So I was like, is this my identity?

Like, am I?

But it was so user-friendly.

And then when everyone like went gamer, I was like, I guess I'm not.

Like, I bid you.

I had to, I had to, I know you guys are back.

No, but you guys are diverging on the same path.

I went another way.

Y'all went.

And I took it.

Because when I could hold it.

Yeah, Mario Kart.

I'm like, this is accessible.

Like the N64 controller with the three prongs, and you could hold both.

Yes.

I knew how to hold that.

I don't know how to hold this one.

There's two.

There's two now.

There's two prongs.

I found out about the re-release from this podcast.

They actually told you guys.

Yes.

They're making another one.

They'll break news in video games and I'll break news in theme parks.

So, by the way, there's new permitting anyway in Epic Universe.

This is our biggest divergence

as people.

So you don't do it.

I can't do it.

You can't do it.

Overwhelming.

What about the family?

Terrifying.

Terrified.

Oh, terrified of rides.

Rides, theme parks, people,

I just.

Your son, what about your son?

I will do it for him.

I'll do anything for him.

I mean, I let someone cut me open to bring him to the world.

You bring up my C-section twice in the same way.

So

it happened.

It fucking sucked.

But it was the best thing in the world.

It's the best thing in the world.

But anyway, I will do it.

I'll do it for him.

But I will, it's not like I'm going to be like excited and taking him.

I'll be like,

yeah, you're going to be, you're going to be the one kicking and screaming.

Probably.

I'm going to be grumpy and hot, like in a stroller.

Just

go in February.

I'm, of course, thinking you'll go to Orlando.

I'm worse thinking you'll go to Orlando.

It's a sentence no one's ever said to me in my life.

Honestly, how chic

to be able to say that about yourself that no one would say that to you.

All they've ever told me is you're in Orlando most of the years.

No, but it's also part of the same thing where people would never be like, have you gone to Coachella?

No one has ever been like, are you a burner?

Have you ever been to Burning Man?

They're like, you need a bathroom that has a sanitizing toilet, like towelette, a moist toilet.

Why can't I say that word?

I'm too tired.

No, but it's ready to wipe your seat down.

Like, you can't, you need money to be part of something.

You can't be in a barter economy.

Like, you're just like, you don't belong in these.

So, it's the same part as, like, you don't belong.

You don't belong.

I will go.

Like, Megan is there.

I will support my girl.

Like, I'll support my actual son.

Like, anytime I'll support you if you're like, I need you to be there, I will go there for you.

Did they do a Megan Haunted House?

They did.

She was part of Halloween Hunt.

She doesn't have her in her own house.

Wow.

But yes, she's part of it.

They dance.

Oh, they needed her.

They needed to get her own house.

Okay, I tell you, there are sanitizing towelettes or, you know, what

you Burning Man?

Not at Burning Man in Orlando.

You're like, like, we're going back to the first thing.

They're absolutely not at Burning Man.

There's no way.

What experience you'd enjoy there?

At Burning Man?

In Orlando.

Why am I so stuck on Burning Man?

I'm like, do I want to know the Burning Man?

Okay, is it a thing where it's like, do you judge yourself for not being like a burner type?

I used to.

I wanted to project.

I know we have this vibe.

I wanted to project an energy of like, I might, but I, in the last couple of years, I'm like, I'm never, I wouldn't like it.

Why do I want to pretend to be someone who would enjoy it?

Totally.

Okay, okay, okay.

My last culture.

I feel like I can't, I don't know if you guys have talked about this.

It's so specific.

I'm looking at you because it feels more likely.

Let's go.

The Rapunzel episode of Storytime Theater with Shelly Duvall who needed radishes.

No, okay, I don't know this.

With pregnancy cravings.

I'm a Shelly Duvall girl, but like Fairy Tale Theater.

No.

Sorry, Fairy Tale Theater.

I said Storytime.

It is huge.

It was, I think it's what allows me to make Megan movies, honestly.

Explain.

It is camp.

Yes.

It's high camp but not educational it's not sesame street camp can we call it sesame street camp i don't know it's not that it is i think it is education it's like shelly duval yeah 100 right there full full expression shelly duvall full eye aperture like

full eye aperture full like giant wig sitting on a cliff while the wind blows big sets big sets and you mean like it it's how you know to eliminate the checkpoints to like get in there with megan look her in the eyes and do a scene like tear up in a scene with her like play the stakes yes don't wink at the camera don't be don't be cool girl now yeah you can be you can be in on it in prep like for all the script drafts and post for all the editing everything when i am there and even like in video village before i step into set like in that mode when i walk into those scenes with megan And she's telling me some shit and I'm emotional.

You just have to.

That's cool girl award.

That's cool girl award.

That's what I'm saying.

I actually feel that yes of course you do you must you must otherwise it's not fun for anyone to watch we are all committed to the bit deeply deeply deeply yeah is jenna on set reading the lines no sadly she does it in a in a booth all good

no problem that's okay

that's okay that's okay no problem jenna you're not disappointing me you're okay that's okay That's okay.

We're fine.

I'm okay.

Are you okay?

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm okay that Jenna is not there.

Are you guys okay?

I just recently...

She's amazing, by the way.

She's amazing.

I saw her last, I saw all of them last night.

It was so fun.

I love her.

Who else showed up to the Megan tour?

We all did.

And we are so close as a cast.

Aristotle.

Aristotle.

Ari.

The other Ari.

The other Ari.

Yes, Aristotle, BJA.

BJA.

Amy, who is the physical, who was great on your show.

Amy's the physical performer of Megan was there looking.

They are growing up so fast.

I sound so old, but Violet and Amy, Violet plays Katie, Monice.

She was there, Tim Sharp, and Ivana Sochno, who you know because you've seen, plays Amelia, was there.

And everyone, I mean, mean, it was just a Jen Van Epps who plays Tess.

I mean, it was

so close.

And Meredith Marx, who's there without being in the movie.

She's

in the movie, just in the way she influences me as a human being.

Oh, hard.

Anyway, that was my culture.

That was my last culture.

Oh, my God.

What's the through line?

Mary Poppins, Sound of Music,

Joan Rivers, Ontesman Street, Star Wars, and Rapunzel.

Talk about the specific Rapunzel radishes episode.

I think it was sticky because I'd never seen anyone want radishes and consume them in the way that she does.

So she's having having like pregnancy cravings and needs them transported to her.

And the part of it that's sense memory-ish is watching someone like eat radishes and the delta between my level of enjoyment when I eventually got my hands on a radish and what the look on Shelly Duvall's face like radicalized.

Radishicalized me.

Radishicalized.

Radicalized me.

Radicalized.

And I was like,

I just really, I like, I don't know, it just crystallized this thing of like, this isn't objectively, this shouldn't be eaten this way.

And she's not, it's not real.

But it, she made it feel real because she was exactly because she was committed to the bit.

Exactly.

And I was like, that is cool to your guys's point.

I was like, this is, she's being cool.

And I'm like, really enjoy.

I'm in it and outside of it at the same time.

It was one of my first experiences of that, I think.

Fabulous constellation of answers.

Thank you for that.

Thank you for giving me an opportunity to think about it.

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Okay, we got to get you out.

Let's do it on Think Smell, honey.

We got to do it on Think Snow, honey.

So this is the 60-second segment that did you wait, what did you just show me on your phone?

Are they texting you?

Oh, yeah, well, good.

We got it.

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We have to do what we have to do.

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Okay, so this is the 60-second segment we have on this podcast.

Each and every week, we rant against something in culture.

I do have something that felt apropos.

Okay.

Here we go.

This is Matt Rogers.

I don't think so, honey.

It's time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, use of the term millennial as a slur nowadays.

You know what, Gen Z?

I have news for you.

You're getting older every single second.

And I have to tell you something.

When you get to the point where you're our age, you're going to look back.

You look stupid.

Like the way that you guys dress, you look so stupid.

I understand.

We looked stupid.

We did.

Like the, you know, the low rise.

The V-necks.

Like, I wore American apparel like it was, like, I worked there and I probably tried.

You know what I mean?

But, like, I can own my cringe.

And I hope you get there because you look so stupid.

Also, you're all queer.

Cool.

At least we fuck.

You're not even fucking.

You're queer.

You want to fuck everybody.

You're not even using it.

You're not even using it.

You guys don't vote.

At least we vote.

Here's the thing.

Like, we're out here trying really hard.

And I get that it's cringe, but use of the term cringe and millennial as a slur, it's like so boring.

And I'll tell you what's worse than cringe being boring.

I don't think so, honey.

Use of millennial as a slur.

Please like us.

That's one minute.

That's beautiful.

Artful.

A masterclass.

I tried.

And that was very millennial of me.

Did Twink and Red Hat bring this out?

No, it did.

It was.

Yeah,

it was a mixture.

So it was like last night, like me being like, oh, 30 plus thing, that definitely shook me.

And again, they meant nothing by it.

But also Marnie Michaels as Millennial Icon and Girls as Millennial Landmark Show.

And I think that's part of the reason why I'm so like,

and I think it's why it's hitting again is because people now have aged into like a, not a self-consciousness, but a self-awareness where we can all really laugh.

And we're all laughing at ourselves.

So Gen Z being like, the millennial pause, like, and getting us self-conscious.

It's like, no, no, no, we don't need that.

We are self-aware.

We're, we're millennials.

It's

suffered through being alive.

We have, yes.

The amount of times I've seen, and I don't know, it's because my phone knows that we're talking to you, but it's like that we were about to talk to you.

But all the past week, it was just like, let's make fun of the girl put herself out there.

It's like, that's been resurfacing in such a huge way because of this thing where we're all like, okay, I think we're cresting the hill.

Like, let's just move past.

And another thing is, like, on TikTok, it's like, oh, the millennial pause.

Like, we did a TikTok the other day.

And Bowen said, cut the millennial pause.

Like, it's like, it's like a video where it's like

hey guys you know it's like yeah you got it you gotta turn that because our phones have too many photos on them and they're just like slow and we assume that it takes a second to start it's that you hit it's that a millennial person will hit record and then it takes them a second to realize that that it's filming and so now i go and the

skim that off but the thing is that is so stupid as a thing to pick on and then i can't help but feel that in years time it's gonna be dumber that people were like ugh the millennial pause than the the millennial pause being a thing like i think you guys in the grander scheme here are being uncool i think it's less cool to call out the millennial pause than like to have it sure all right this is bow and yang so i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey idioms i'm just saying in every language it is linguistic gatekeeping it's unless you're a native speaker you will spend the rest of your life trying to learn a french idiom and a mandarin idiom i don't know like i don't know these things even though i supposedly like spoke the languages at one point.

English idioms, let's just go through a couple of them.

Raining cats and dogs.

Yeah.

What the fuck?

I don't get that.

What are you talking about?

That's a great question.

That's a great question.

Just say it's raining very hard.

It's coming down out there.

Well, that actually

figurative language.

I'm just going to say figurative language, beautiful, has a place

in our culture.

Idioms are this thing where it's like, it's poetry trying to disguise itself as like colloquial shit.

And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Let's just, I'm being a literalist for the rest of my life.

I cannot speak in these metaphorical, figurative things.

Idioms.

I don't think so, honey.

And that's one minute.

See, this, I feel like, is one of the great AP components.

Yes, I wanted to talk to you about French.

We'll sidebar about it.

We'll talk about French.

Your French is great.

No, we're French.

No, no, no.

I can hear it.

Even in a French.

He He was a godsend to have in France.

Yes.

In a casual word.

Anyway, we'll talk about it off my big sound.

Okay.

Okay.

But yes, you are absolutely right.

Yes.

And the videos I love the most of other cultures are the ones where they say their idioms out loud in English so we can hear what they sound like.

And they're like, we know this is crazy.

You'll never learn how to say this, but we say this to each other.

All right.

This is Allison Williams.

I don't think so.

Time starts now.

Okay.

Cilantra's got to go.

I'm sorry.

Yes.

I can't anymore.

I can't tell you to leave cilantro out.

Is there cilantro in this?

Are we calling it it coriander?

I just can't.

And this is it.

It has to go.

I'm done.

I'm sorry.

Loud places.

Why?

I can't be in a loud place.

No.

I can't be in a loud place.

I can't be in a loud restaurant.

I have an app that tests decibels.

I know the decibel level of New York City restaurants.

I will not go if it is too loud.

What's the point?

Close talking because of loud places.

I don't want to smell your breath.

I don't want to feel it on my body.

I don't want to get hors d'oeuvre on my face.

Get back out.

Do not talk to me too close.

People who like fish and eggs and eat them in the world with the rest of us, stop.

Keep your disgusting food kink like cilantro to yourself.

I don't want to be in the same room as an egg-based product or a fish product.

Keep it somewhere else.

15 seconds.

Lack of monoculture, we already talked about.

The last one is.

I actually do need sleep, but I identify as someone who doesn't, and I hate it.

I loved that I was a four hours a night person in high school and college.

I miss her terribly.

She is gone.

I need eight.

I need to accept this.

And I don't want to.

So I don't think so, honey, needing sleep.

And that's one minute.

And she used to be mine.

Oh, that song.

song.

We go off for another hour.

We need to hear you sing this at some point in the future because she has to go.

Megan 2.0 is in theaters June 27th.

Go see it.

It's so fucking good.

The moment is, I can't spoil it.

I wanted to say it.

I wanted to say the singer, but yeah, it is.

It'll be such a delightful surprise to you.

Expose the theater.

Exposed the theater.

Thank you so much for your hair.

Thank you so much.

I love you coming.

Love you both.

I feel confident dropping that hard L.

Love you.

Thank you for the hours and hour, days, cumulatively months of entertainment.

Thank you for like just everything.

Thank you for recognizing me as cool.

Loki before I did.

And you've RSVP'd, yes, and we appreciate it.

And IRSCPS as well.

Love you.

Yeah, we had a radio song.

Woo-hoo!

That was like sort of a coup of a divine gravity.

Bye.

Bye.

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