"Huge Fornicators" (w/ Cate Blanchett)

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Speaker 62 look man

Speaker 63 oh i see my eye oh my bow and look over there wow is that culture yes goodness wow las cultoristas

Speaker 68 ding dong las culturistas

Speaker 34 just for a warning you're going to hear that twice we're going to ding dong again because we are not currently with our guest of this episode which you can probably see now based on the title is with the one and only kate blanchette kate blanchette got got a new movie, Black Bag.

Speaker 73 It's great. It's great.

Speaker 76 I was actually like, I was watching Black Bag and then I was going to choose another thing from her filmography to watch again before this.

Speaker 11 There's so much, I got overwhelmed.

Speaker 21 You got ANSI.

Speaker 69 It's like I got ANSI. When you're at the bookstore.
Yeah.

Speaker 34 So many options.

Speaker 5 Not even just little options where it's like, oh, it could be that, could be that.

Speaker 79 Big, delicious options.

Speaker 83 It's like a cheesecake factory, her filmography.

Speaker 34 It's a menu with a spiral spine.

Speaker 84 This is a ruler culture, if I've ever heard one.

Speaker 85 This is ruler culture number 94.

Speaker 87 Yeah, 94.

Speaker 69 Cape Lanchet filmography is like the menu at a cheesecake factory.

Speaker 90 The options.

Speaker 34 What were you, were you juggling? Did you like whittle it down to a final selection?

Speaker 73 I mean, there's always tar. Yep.

Speaker 76 There's always tar, but the thing about tar is it.

Speaker 73 It is the, let's just call it the big steak of options because it's so, it's long.

Speaker 94 It's, it's, it's a big little film.

Speaker 34 It's the most hate you're going to get. It's the most bang for your buck Cape Lanchette you're going to get.

Speaker 95 Yes.

Speaker 81 But having already seen that several times,

Speaker 74 and then I thought, why don't we do Carol?

Speaker 43 And I thought,

Speaker 76 I was like, this could be good, but I've also seen that a couple of times.

Speaker 97 And then I thought, Notes on a Scandal, which is ultimately what I went with, because I know that's what you went with.

Speaker 34 That's what I went with.

Speaker 98 This is my favorite film on her filmography.

Speaker 99 We'll tell her.

Speaker 34 Notes on a Scandal?

Speaker 91 I think it is.

Speaker 98 Because I love melodrama.

Speaker 73 We are off track.

Speaker 24 So the reason why we're doing this is because we want to give you a little bit of a culture catch up.

Speaker 100 We know that people have been sort of

Speaker 87 desiring this.

Speaker 34 Because a lot has happened

Speaker 34 in the last month.

Speaker 64 Where do we start?

Speaker 91 In our lives.

Speaker 34 and of course, in the grand scheme of things. But

Speaker 34 we just thought we'd give you like a little sort of

Speaker 34 hybrid episode.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 34 I feel like someone like Kate Blanchette deserves a sort of like

Speaker 34 little preamble because it's just going to be a lot.

Speaker 102 Yeah, I also thought to myself, I'm like.

Speaker 102 What if Kate Blanchett came in here and we did like a traditional intro and Kate Blanchette, the legendary Kate Blanchette, was just sitting here?

Speaker 5 So we'll probably do like a 30-second intro for her and just get into it because I actually can't bear the thought of her sitting here

Speaker 80 while we're like, so what the thing about like my favorite soup is, or whatever dumb shit we would say,

Speaker 94 what's your favorite clam. Thank you for asking.

Speaker 6 I was just wanted to say New England clam, but it's hard to pick a favorite soup.

Speaker 86 It's so hard.

Speaker 74 I don't think so, honey, having to pick a favorite soup. And it feels like the pressure is always on to choose a favorite soup nowadays.

Speaker 34 Well, I feel like that's a self-invented pressure because you just brought that up as like an example.

Speaker 2 You don't feel that pressure day in and day out.

Speaker 34 Ever since Hale and Hardy has disappeared from New York City,

Speaker 34 I'm no longer making the decision of what soup do I want today. It is nosedived and it makes me sick because it used to be like the only thing that gave me joy was to like pick a new soup.

Speaker 34 And now I just don't encounter soup as much as I would like.

Speaker 111 Excuse me.

Speaker 100 First of all, let me tell you something.

Speaker 74 Hale and Hardy, that was a great American institution. And I'm so disappointed in all the consumers of America and everyone that eats food out there.

Speaker 74 What you did, what you allowed to happen to Hale and Hardy is unacceptable. Because where else are you going to get, I'm sorry, 12, 13, sometimes 14 options of soup?

Speaker 114 When you see Moroccan lentil on a menu, add to cart.

Speaker 6 Add to cart because you're lucky to have that opportunity.

Speaker 111 And now, unbelievable.

Speaker 116 I'm sorry.

Speaker 34 There have been rumors for, I want to say decades now.

Speaker 117 I'm sick sick of rumors starting.

Speaker 98 Rumors starting that it's coming back.

Speaker 109 No, it's not.

Speaker 34 No, it's not. Shut up.

Speaker 109 I've heard this for years.

Speaker 76 No, it's 2025.

Speaker 74 We don't have optimistic thoughts anymore.

Speaker 118 Who are you? Who are you?

Speaker 34 The one that got away and picked up and moved to a different town? And you're like, I'm thinking of moving back into New York.

Speaker 114 Lose my number.

Speaker 94 Lose my number.

Speaker 84 That's who you are, VIV, Hail and Hardy coming back.

Speaker 69 VI-V. Ooh.

Speaker 98 You know, VIV. Vis-a-vis.

Speaker 98 So in French, if it's...

Speaker 119 You don't think that VIV is more fun?

Speaker 34 It's very fun. It's not the French way to say it.
But

Speaker 34 you can say VIV.

Speaker 99 You better, you have to understand.

Speaker 122 Nowadays, Bowen has to be helping me with this because we're going to Europe.

Speaker 34 We're going to Europe. Very tar-coated.

Speaker 123 She would fly back and forth, you know?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 110 A cultured woman.

Speaker 69 A cultured secrets.

Speaker 83 Can't wait to ask Kate Blanchette if she has secrets too.

Speaker 111 We were talking about soup.

Speaker 69 We were talking about soup.

Speaker 34 We were talking about preamble, culture catch-up. Yeah.

Speaker 71 Favorite roles, notes on a scandal. Yeah.

Speaker 101 Oh, this is what I was going to say.

Speaker 34 RKPFKs, K's,

Speaker 82 whatever.

Speaker 108 RKPFKs.

Speaker 87 We're missing a K. What?

Speaker 78 RKPFK. Yes, you're right.

Speaker 34 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
It's getting unwieldy. I was going to say, hold me to account.
I want to ask her if she thinks, well, I guess, what? Is there any use to this?

Speaker 34 I want to be like, do you think they would make notes on a scandal now?

Speaker 110 Like, you would not be able to have K-Black Chat make out with a teenager.

Speaker 34 Not just make out.

Speaker 98 fuck in a train yard.

Speaker 114 Can I tell you something?

Speaker 126 She fucks that kid. Shit.

Speaker 109 I mean, and listen, it's like that's, that's, that's the whole crux of the film.

Speaker 88 That's the scandal.

Speaker 69 I didn't write it.

Speaker 34 Podcast on a scandal.

Speaker 78 Oh my God. That's the sequel.

Speaker 123 That's the starring us.

Speaker 74 Wait, who's Kate and who's Judy Deck?

Speaker 34 I'm Judy.

Speaker 73 I love that you really.

Speaker 73 Sheba.

Speaker 88 I am. Here I am.

Speaker 34 I do think what we should do, and it will be embarrassing, but we should say the iconic line to Kate.

Speaker 99 You think this is a love affair?

Speaker 88 You want to fuck me, Barbara. You want to fuck me, Barbara.

Speaker 128 How come I thought you think this is a love affair?

Speaker 94 Clearly, you want to.

Speaker 74 Fuck, you know what?

Speaker 100 I have a you wanna fuck me, Barbara t-shirt that I had made as a rap gift for game show, and I, I, it's in LA.

Speaker 101 I didn't wear it.

Speaker 34 Where's your Lydia Tar Innocent t-shirt?

Speaker 93 Oh my God. We should have worn that.

Speaker 131 It's okay. I'm literally thinking, can we make it home? No.

Speaker 109 This This sucks.

Speaker 101 It's okay.

Speaker 34 We'll just tell her.

Speaker 132 We'll show her the photo.

Speaker 5 We should both have been wearing our Lydia Tart is innocent t-shirts.

Speaker 133 What if she had been like, you know, she's not.

Speaker 134 She's not.

Speaker 74 She was an awful woman.

Speaker 71 She drops in.

Speaker 94 She's like, this is, I don't like this at all.

Speaker 91 I don't agree with this.

Speaker 34 This is our culture catch-up portion of the episode. Yes.
So let's just make the list now. Let's just make the programming.

Speaker 93 Okay, Lady Gaga was on Lost Coach.

Speaker 5 Bowen sang with Lady Gaga in two sketches and became best friends.

Speaker 34 Matt was front front row at the Oscars while I was best.

Speaker 40 No, Bowen presented at the Oscars. It's not Matt was front row at the Oscars.

Speaker 136 I was front row at the Oscars.

Speaker 78 I have been such a happy accessory this past month.

Speaker 137 You have no idea.

Speaker 120 I feel like the most beautiful purse in the world.

Speaker 80 Stop it. No, stop.

Speaker 96 I love it.

Speaker 73 You, I feel like I'm your emotional support animal and I'm so happy about it.

Speaker 34 But you know, it's like, it's, it's like when a movie star, it's like when an actress like brings her dog to a red carpet.

Speaker 34 Let's say like someone like Demi Moore brings, oh, that dog, I forget the name.

Speaker 95 We're going to call him Pip.

Speaker 91 Pip.

Speaker 34 It's like, well,

Speaker 34 everyone's obsessed with Pip. You know what I mean?

Speaker 122 I mean, you know what's really happened is we've fulfilled the prophecy.

Speaker 140 I'm busy.

Speaker 96 Phillips.

Speaker 115 You are Michelle.

Speaker 82 The prophecy has been fulfilled.

Speaker 74 There's officially a gay Michelle Williams and busy Phillips.

Speaker 98 No, no, no.

Speaker 34 I am not Michelle. You are not busy.
And that is both like, that would be a disservice to both of them and us.

Speaker 143 Excuse me.

Speaker 144 I'm saying this with all the love in the world for both of those legends.

Speaker 80 And I'm saying it with a lot of love for us.

Speaker 107 For us.

Speaker 34 But I'm saying like, there's something about,

Speaker 34 listen, I'm walking on to the red carpet of the Oscars and it's people,

Speaker 137 everyone being like, Matt Bowen, Matt, Bowen.

Speaker 145 I already know.

Speaker 34 In a way that was like... that filled me with such profound joy.

Speaker 71 I was like, yes.

Speaker 98 We slayed the Glambot.

Speaker 34 We slayed the Glambot and just like.

Speaker 6 And they're talking about it.

Speaker 34 I can't believe I'm here with my best friend at the Oscars and we're like, putcha.

Speaker 27 Putcha, putcha, put your hearts up.

Speaker 34 And it's, it's really, I still have to journal about SNL 50. I feel like RKPFKFs,

Speaker 34 JK, were not totally satisfied with our SNL 50 recap.

Speaker 117 No, they weren't.

Speaker 71 We're happy to go into more detail with that.

Speaker 40 Let's just say, let's say top highlights. Let's start there.

Speaker 69 SNL 50. Okay.

Speaker 5 Top highlights for you.

Speaker 34 Waving a chair backstage. Yep.

Speaker 34 Doing the the pre-tape with andy sandberg which was so much fun yes um just loving the moments that we shared together with everybody it felt like this wonderful family reunion it felt like we were all sort of giving each other it was like a dickensian experience of like everyone was being visited by the ghosts of snl past present future in a way that was actually like not terrible like we were all scrooge and we all were waking up on christmas morning like god bless us everyone

Speaker 132 And that was the highlight for me. Yeah.

Speaker 34 I mean, everyone was obsessed with Matt working the carpet.

Speaker 22 That was fun.

Speaker 5 I will say one of the highlights after it for me was when, so you've been on it before, but I made my at Nikki C.

Speaker 78 Bell debut on TikTok.

Speaker 149 We love

Speaker 33 Nikki.

Speaker 109 Obsessed, deeply obsessed.

Speaker 76 And I was so, I'm, of course, watching it, bed rotting, like watching the TikTok in bed.

Speaker 81 And then like Nikki is. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 We were very much Sympatico there.

Speaker 97 I was like, I want to lay down too and be lazy looking at my TikTok.

Speaker 102 And then I see myself,

Speaker 147 and

Speaker 144 he goes, Not the right color.

Speaker 150 And I see, I so then, then I wasn't following him, so I followed him, which was a mistake on my part.

Speaker 5 And he sends me a message, and he goes, He revealed himself as a reader.

Speaker 16 I don't know how he identifies, God, but he's a finalist.

Speaker 103 I go, just so you know, it wasn't as bright in person.

Speaker 91 Great.

Speaker 136 And he goes, okay, I get it.

Speaker 87 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 33 But I loved loved it.

Speaker 34 Oh, my God.

Speaker 73 Because it's a celebration to even be on that.

Speaker 111 Of course.

Speaker 110 Love that.

Speaker 34 He had to press save on a photo of you.

Speaker 67 You know what I mean?

Speaker 73 It didn't look that bright in person.

Speaker 151 Like, I absolutely loved what I wore. The blue?

Speaker 87 Oh, so good.

Speaker 94 Thank you.

Speaker 34 It wasn't even like a, it was not like a jewel tone.

Speaker 71 It was not even, but it was certainly not.

Speaker 73 But it was still.

Speaker 74 Can you imagine me in a jewel tone at the SNL 50?

Speaker 34 But it was just like a deep, sumptuous blue.

Speaker 144 Yeah. It was great.

Speaker 117 By the way, I don't know why.

Speaker 5 I pictured me in in a jewel-tone at SNL 50, and this was the pose.

Speaker 34 Like, wait, like, like Leah Michelle.

Speaker 152 Like, yeah, like taking your two hands on me and putting it, pushing like your hips forward and like this.

Speaker 69 Clavicle.

Speaker 34 No, your clavicle first.

Speaker 74 And you just hear, you just hear, Matt, Matt, Matt.

Speaker 95 And you know what?

Speaker 74 They always say to me, big smile, Matt.

Speaker 34 Big smile, big smile.

Speaker 152 Chin up, chin up, chin up.

Speaker 63 Chin up.

Speaker 153 Chin, down, chin down.

Speaker 153 That's too much.

Speaker 34 Chin down. A little bit of a smile.

Speaker 117 Over here. And they're always over.

Speaker 43 You know what we should do even when our backs of our outfits are really bad just over the shoulder i love an old

Speaker 90 i love that i love your fucking gwyneth oh anyway

Speaker 34 that sounds 50 was amazing oscars oscars you really did crush that presenting and there was bts it was back and forth whether or not that bit was going to happen yes and you stuck to your guns i stuck to my guns the producers pitched the idea the producers and the writers wonderful team there they're just like for working the oscars they are a cool chill bunch They're like, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 108 It's like, these people do it.

Speaker 34 This is their thing year in, year out. You know what I mean? They know how this all works.

Speaker 34 They're at the Dolby.

Speaker 91 They know where the bathrooms are.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 34 it was so much fun. I stayed up after SNL, got on a plane,

Speaker 34 took a little gummy, conked out, woke up, went straight to the Dolby, felt great, did the bit.

Speaker 34 had lovely stand-ins, saw the rehearsal for the Oz Medley with the stand-ins.

Speaker 71 and it, and I was still backed.

Speaker 34 I was like, it's not even Cynthia and Ari doing it.

Speaker 132 And I'm still like in tears.

Speaker 128 You actually just saw that like a stand-ins like that.

Speaker 34 It was these stand-ins who like were slayed. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Who like were not, I would say, like, maybe they're professional vocalists and singers, but they were just like, but I even saw the shot of like Ari in the background. Yeah.

Speaker 116 Oh, that was a great shot.

Speaker 34 And it was just like Miss Thing, a blonde girl in the back, just kind of like watching this, this, this other woman on like the raised platform.

Speaker 34 And I was like, this is going to fucking stand-ins for them. just like seeing the staging and like and me and all the and all of conan's background dancers for the opening bit we're all just dying

Speaker 105 like this is so fun i also want to say in terms of um stand-ins shout out to whoever was sitting next to me for 90 minutes so first of all bowen says to me beforehand we are sitting in the front row i said you better shut the fuck up and he goes also

Speaker 75 i can't be with you for like

Speaker 76 he goes for the first 40 minutes because i'm presenting the the fourth award and i have to get into the costume because we are doing that bit.

Speaker 74 Like it went back and forth about whether that was going to happen because it was going to be a big costume change.

Speaker 34 It was going to be a big costume change and they weren't sure they were going to have the proper rehearsal time with me because I was flying in the day of.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 34 So it might not have happened. And so I told Matt, I budgeted 40 minutes.
It was the full

Speaker 34 90 minutes of the show.

Speaker 103 It was 90.

Speaker 122 And literally, I'm with this seat filler the whole time.

Speaker 98 And she, probably 70 minutes in, turns to me and goes, where is Bowen?

Speaker 62 And

Speaker 114 I go, Am I not fun, or are you not enjoying being at the Oscars?

Speaker 74 She was in great vibe, but

Speaker 74 she had to go to the bathroom, probably, but also I think she was just like, I, there was a little bit of like,

Speaker 74 there was a little bit of like, I feel bad that Bowen isn't in his front row seat at the Oscars. And I was just like, I mean, I hope he comes soon.

Speaker 154 I am in, I'm enjoying you. Yes.

Speaker 3 But, like, I do want, because I knew you wanted to be out there watching it because

Speaker 74 you missed,

Speaker 74 obviously, Cynthia and Ariana, which was amazing.

Speaker 95 I missed it.

Speaker 6 The Bond trivia, the Bond trivia.

Speaker 34 I of Lisa and Doja and Ray and Margaret Qualey and Margaret. Oh my God, Margaret.

Speaker 74 Yeah, I mean, and it was, I will say, sitting there for 90 minutes and looking to my left and just seeing all those people, I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 5 You know what I was really proud about? I was like, wow, I've really managed my anxiety because I was sitting there.

Speaker 72 Wow, I'm so proud of her.

Speaker 74 And I think a year ago, I wouldn't have been like that.

Speaker 113 I think I would have been like,

Speaker 40 but I was like, okay, it's okay.

Speaker 150 It's okay. I'm okay.
I'm okay.

Speaker 162 I was channeling Tate.

Speaker 91 You were channeling Tate.

Speaker 34 Tate would be cool as a cucumber in front run with the Oscars.

Speaker 69 I think so.

Speaker 143 She'd be like, this is fun.

Speaker 161 Yeah, I think she'd be like, this is cool, man.

Speaker 163 This is cool. Yeah.

Speaker 71 Why would that be the impression? Cool, man.

Speaker 76 But you did finally come out.

Speaker 94 We got to see the last half of the Oscars together.

Speaker 34 Which was just as fun.

Speaker 112 It was great. I mean, the wins went as expected until

Speaker 31 that was a sad moment when Demi lost.

Speaker 86 But Mikey's so fucking great in that movie.

Speaker 34 It's like, that's what's, it's not like an out-and-out snub necessarily, but it is just a thing of like, God, god this there's just something about

Speaker 34 the expectation being sort of slowly downloaded into you correct like as just as on a human level like if you are told like over several months that like it's yours it's yours it's yours something's gonna happen to you something great

Speaker 34 and it doesn't that is very just for lack of a better word devastated and with a camera in your face the moment it doesn't happen like like here's what i'll say

Speaker 6 after that and you know i love love Enora.

Speaker 94 I think Mikey Madison is incredible.

Speaker 97 I actually think it was even better on the second time I watched it.

Speaker 112 I think that that performance is great, especially when you see how dissimilar she is to that character.

Speaker 73 I think she deserved to win, but it's just tough when there's so many of these award shows.

Speaker 165 It makes you feel like, is it a little too much?

Speaker 69 I did say,

Speaker 73 absolutely.

Speaker 122 Like right after another, after another, it feels like a job that can't possibly have any reward outside of like, ultimately, if you do win and only one person can.

Speaker 75 And if you happen to like, you make yourself like a fashion moment, which by the, I'll say again, Brad Goresky absolutely crushed it

Speaker 24 with Demi all season.

Speaker 84 I hope she feels good. I'm sure she feels good.

Speaker 34 I'm sure she does. And it makes me go, to answer your question, like, is this too much? Like,

Speaker 34 kill me for saying this. It makes me go like, well, for culture awards, I think we should like build out precursors.

Speaker 167 Oh, no.

Speaker 34 The culture awards will have 20 made-up precursors.

Speaker 74 No, there's going to be a bunch.

Speaker 78 There's going to be a lot of

Speaker 122 precursors.

Speaker 74 Like we were actually going to create many other small awards with guilds that we create.

Speaker 76 Actually, there's going to be a reader awards, a publishers awards, a KD Awards, a finalist awards, and the Kyle Awards.

Speaker 74 And you are going to get to sign up for the guild.

Speaker 95 This actually is happening in real time.

Speaker 86 We've not discussed this.

Speaker 34 We've not discussed this, but we don't think we have the...

Speaker 170 We're looking at Producer Becca.

Speaker 34 We're like, this is a nightmare in terms of execution.

Speaker 73 It's also kind kind of officially not really up to us anymore.

Speaker 74 I don't know what we can say, what way we can, but it is

Speaker 74 we are nearing the time of really being able to say something very big and cool, but like, I don't know if it's now.

Speaker 112 We were told it might be around now, but I don't know.

Speaker 34 I don't, yeah. Let's for now

Speaker 98 watch the space. For now, we're going to pretend we can say anything we want.

Speaker 87 Okay.

Speaker 92 And we'll be told later if we can't.

Speaker 69 That's if we're in brief.

Speaker 91 That's actually a great way to approach.

Speaker 34 Ask for forgiveness, not permission.

Speaker 74 Yes, ask for forgiveness.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 171 On eBay, every find has a story.

Speaker 172 Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee.

Speaker 175 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 4 From the last show your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 176 You wore it everywhere.

Speaker 34 Then your boyfriend started wearing it.

Speaker 24 Which was cute until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 178 Which was not so cute.

Speaker 173 But he was. I miss him.

Speaker 147 Anyway, now you're on eBay.

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Speaker 87 Yeah.

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Speaker 142 eBay.

Speaker 31 Things people love.

Speaker 10 I'd take a tagline.

Speaker 188 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 190 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 192 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 187 Total reset.

Speaker 193 Right?

Speaker 2 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 194 It just hits.

Speaker 53 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 195 Exactly.

Speaker 16 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all all break moments.

Speaker 67 Diet Coke.

Speaker 196 This is my taste.

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Speaker 197 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 199 Well, obviously, you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 8 True.

Speaker 197 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 32 That's just brilliant time management.

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Speaker 202 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 203 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 59 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 26 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 67 Curated dining.

Speaker 205 Next. Okay, good choice.

Speaker 206 That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 54 Second question.

Speaker 170 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean?

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Speaker 106 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

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Speaker 134 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 220 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini.

Speaker 221 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

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Speaker 19 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, The Brilliant Lady?

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Speaker 3 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 225 Okay, so you know how the world is a chaotic, swirling ball of total stress right now?

Speaker 38 Well, we have a new Hulu show from Ryan Murphy that will give you the much-needed break from reality.

Speaker 227 And whether you know it or not, you are already completely obsessed.

Speaker 229 It's called All's Fair, and Ms.

Speaker 12 Kardashian plays Allura Grant, the most in demand divorce attorney in Los Angeles.

Speaker 231 Get it?

Speaker 166 It's All's Fair, as in All's Fair in Love and War, and she's a divorce attorney.

Speaker 233 Love it.

Speaker 234 Now let's talk ensemble because Allura does not go it alone.

Speaker 45 She breaks off from a crusty male-dominated law firm to start her own legal coven with some absolute forces of nature.

Speaker 20 Naomi Watts, Nicie Nash-Betts, Tiana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 240 Yeah, hello, Glenn Close.

Speaker 241 And of course, you need a villain, so say hello to Sarah Paulson as the nemesis.

Speaker 14 And these ladies are brilliant, complicated, fearless, and when they all come together, nothing can stop them.

Speaker 244 I'm talking about the lawyers on the show and the actresses playing them, by the way.

Speaker 246 But hey, if you're thinking this will be all courtroom drama and no drama drama, relax.

Speaker 248 Allura, that's Kim's character, has plenty of twists and turns in her personal life.

Speaker 79 Her professional life crashes into her personal one, and uh-oh.

Speaker 115 So how does this super lawyer fix her own mess?

Speaker 14 With a little help from her besties, of course.

Speaker 46 So this series has it all.

Speaker 251 Scandalous secrets, high-stakes courtroom drama, more shifting alliances than Kim's other shows, some OMG twists, and friendships that rise above it all.

Speaker 30 And of course, everything is going to look amazing.

Speaker 12 It's got some unapologetic glam, a work-hard, play-harder lifestyle.

Speaker 254 Every scene just sparkles.

Speaker 255 Everybody makes compromises in their lives.

Speaker 256 Lame men, underpaying jobs.

Speaker 124 Well, stop.

Speaker 243 Just stop.

Speaker 257 And never settle for anything less than fabulous when it comes to your next streaming obsession.

Speaker 44 All's fair now streaming on Hulu and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 64 Terms apply, drama guaranteed.

Speaker 6 You know, I'm watching the UK season three Traitors right now, and there's an Anglican priest

Speaker 77 on the show, and her defense of not being able to be a traitor is, I can't lie.

Speaker 105 I am not able to be deceitful.

Speaker 6 I'm not able to do it.

Speaker 164 I can't be traitorous.

Speaker 34 And was she a traitor?

Speaker 118 Is she a traitor?

Speaker 74 No, but it's interesting because half the people are like, I mean, she's a priest.

Speaker 94 Like, she can't do this.

Speaker 48 And then other people are like, no, she can lie.

Speaker 74 She just just has to confess.

Speaker 146 Which she will.

Speaker 223 Yeah, I wish she will.

Speaker 128 But it's unclear, like, whether or not she feels that way. Uh-huh.

Speaker 76 So just know that you can't trust priests.

Speaker 192 Are there fun northern accents on UK Trader season three?

Speaker 34 Because I missed them. I miss Miss Amanda from season one, iconic northern accent.

Speaker 73 So,

Speaker 74 yeah, there's a really good. There's do a northern accent.

Speaker 258 So, are you talking about this?

Speaker 34 Northern.

Speaker 69 It's like, it's very

Speaker 34 scarce. She goes,

Speaker 100 I really like Alexander.

Speaker 68 I really like Alexander.

Speaker 114 I love being around him.

Speaker 63 It's Cheryl Cole.

Speaker 72 I can't believe I had the murder.

Speaker 114 Of course, the murder again.

Speaker 111 I've got the murder again in the turret. It's like.

Speaker 114 In the turret.

Speaker 143 In the turret.

Speaker 122 The turret is a very scary place to be.

Speaker 34 It's like Liverpool. It's like, it's that.
I love it.

Speaker 63 We're butchering.

Speaker 114 You write up my streets.

Speaker 69 That's famously what Cheryl Cole said to

Speaker 106 Cheryl Lloyd.

Speaker 34 Oh, when Sherlov was on X Factor?

Speaker 101 Correct.

Speaker 74 You right set my straight.

Speaker 152 You right set my straight.

Speaker 34 This is the most gay millennial shit ever. Pretty much.
Is knowing what Cheryl Cole said to Cher Lloyd on the stage of X.

Speaker 100 From being obsessed with X Factor UK on YouTube in 2000.

Speaker 127 Who knows?

Speaker 69 Wait a minute.

Speaker 110 Call from an 800 number. No, don't pick up.

Speaker 97 No, well, now it's in the voicemail, and that means it's in God's hands. It's in God's hands.

Speaker 137 It's actually Roller Culture number eight.

Speaker 69 When it goes to voicemail, that means it's in God's hands.

Speaker 71 And that is kind of how voicemail feels now.

Speaker 34 Like, you're just, you're just kind of, it's a message in a bottle, and you're in a terrible stormy ocean. Yeah.

Speaker 110 Like, who knows if it'll get there.

Speaker 34 Okay, so Oscars. And then we went to the Vanity Fair party.

Speaker 76 Went to the Vanity Fair party.

Speaker 131 That was so fun. So fun.

Speaker 82 Can I tell you my favorite sentence that's ever come out of my mouth?

Speaker 21 White Bestie Summer.

Speaker 5 No, what? Not white Bestie Summer.

Speaker 82 This is my favorite sentence I've ever said out loud.

Speaker 72 Okay.

Speaker 114 Madison Beer, do you know Allison Bree?

Speaker 114 Wow.

Speaker 70 And they hadn't met, but they did.

Speaker 133 They did. And you introduced them.

Speaker 131 Well, our friend Michael brought over Madison Beer, who I was so thrilled to meet.

Speaker 117 And I said to her,

Speaker 133 I said to her, Madison Beer, whenever anyone does the Glambot, I say, why are you doing the Glambot?

Speaker 48 You're not Madison Beer.

Speaker 34 And then she died. She loved that.

Speaker 71 I was trying to play it cool around her because Michael, our friend.

Speaker 34 Yes, Hoffman.

Speaker 126 Hello.

Speaker 34 Hi, Michael.

Speaker 100 Somehow became besties with Madison Beer within two seconds.

Speaker 74 I get it.

Speaker 34 But just like, but minutes before.

Speaker 76 Sometimes you have chemistry with people like us.

Speaker 34 But Madison was following Michael into the crowd, and then we saw Michael and said hi. And then I look over and there was Madison Beer in her full glory.

Speaker 110 And I was like, hey, how are you? I'm Bowen.

Speaker 98 It's so nice to meet you.

Speaker 34 Trying to play it cool. How's your night going? And then finally, I was like, finally, you came over and you were like, you're Madison Beer.
And I dropped the whole thing.

Speaker 21 I was like, I mean, we're.

Speaker 32 We invited her on the pod.

Speaker 127 We had her.

Speaker 74 If you're not listening to Madison Beer's,

Speaker 161 Becca, are you a Stan?

Speaker 80 Yeah. Period.

Speaker 114 Like, Madison Beer's music is really good.

Speaker 34 And can I say, as a boob gay?

Speaker 126 Period.

Speaker 34 That's she is, she is top tier.

Speaker 14 And then I was looking to my right at the glory that was Allison Bree, and I said, well, I have to make this happen.

Speaker 121 I was like, Madison Beard, Beer, do you know Allison Bree?

Speaker 155 And they hadn't met.

Speaker 85 They hugged.

Speaker 95 I can only assume traded numbers and became best friends.

Speaker 76 We'll find out.

Speaker 34 What was the vibe? Because we were with Mr. Hand.
Love him. For John Hann to be in close proximity to Allison Brady made me truly thrill to me.

Speaker 74 Oh my God. You know what's funny? I didn't realize it until right after.

Speaker 153 I'm like, oh my God, fucking Don and Trudy.

Speaker 33 We're right there.

Speaker 150 It is Don and Trudy, but oh, that was good.

Speaker 87 Renee Rap. Renee Rapp.

Speaker 74 You really stay a legend.

Speaker 34 This is my life now. This is actually like a perfect microcosm for like what the last month has been.
And it is my peak and like it's all downhill from here. We're at the Van Africa party.

Speaker 34 We're talking, we're talking. For this person to come up and tap me on the shoulder be like oh my god thank god you're here

Speaker 34 for this to be the person i'm about to reveal say three words this was good

Speaker 34 we've all been this person at any party where it's like oh thank god you're here yeah like i have someone to talk to megan thee stallion comes up to me she goes oh my god thank god you're here i'm like hi hey megan the stallion someone i've like fully like been on a professional have been lucky enough to be on a professional level with and like worked with before but i'm like it's every time it's still shocking to me whenever she's like hi i'm like hi yeah It's bitch.

Speaker 34 It's Tina Snow.

Speaker 84 Let's go.

Speaker 24 That whole party was just like, and I say this in the most revel, revel,

Speaker 150 I say this in the most, how do I say that I revere this?

Speaker 34 And the most reverent way.

Speaker 112 I say this in the most reverent way. The most random group of people ever.

Speaker 31 And I was like, woo.

Speaker 93 And then I don't think we can say where we went next.

Speaker 34 We can't say where we went next, but I think we can say this because this is actually a huge moment that I want to share with people. and it's like the perfect karmic

Speaker 34 you went to a party yes and we were the mega the style in this situation where we look around everyone's way too cool for us and then we this is the person that we zeroed in on and we were like oh we can talk to this person yes chapel run chapel run and guess what

Speaker 84 the groundwork has been laid the groundwork this is the year for chapel on lost call this is we're just putting it out there but incredibly cool i mean like it was

Speaker 74 did i did i help facilitate that introduction yes you did and that was so kind I mean, and like, she was so sweet.

Speaker 76 And like, but I got to tell her.

Speaker 34 And I told her, like, when I first met her, I was like, or when I first talked to her for interview, I was just like, my best friend, Matt Rogers, was years ahead of the curve.

Speaker 87 Wow.

Speaker 114 And I was just like, look, I was like, Chapel, this is my friend Matt. Like, we're besties.

Speaker 34 And, and you two hit it off.

Speaker 34 She's cool as she really liked you.

Speaker 95 Yeah. I mean, listen, we love Chaperone.

Speaker 48 And I'm excited about,

Speaker 87 I guess, oh,

Speaker 76 by the time this comes out, I guess by the time this comes out out/slash tomorrow, the giver, we're headed for a really fun chapel era.

Speaker 68 Definitely.

Speaker 151 I'm excited.

Speaker 139 Baby, I'm a giver.

Speaker 34 It's really

Speaker 132 a great bridge.

Speaker 101 Oh, God.

Speaker 34 She's a bridge queen.

Speaker 5 Thank God, too.

Speaker 16 You know what I love about Mayhem?

Speaker 6 Not a song under three minutes on that goddamn album.

Speaker 109 And thank God for Gaga for bringing back the breakdown outro.

Speaker 34 Please.

Speaker 111 The outros are, it helps you learn the song.

Speaker 34 I think you can apply this across the board, especially in terms of a pop structure. It's like, outro us, show off the production, highlight the production.

Speaker 34 This is just as key in the song as the vocals.

Speaker 113 Not to give them too much credit, but her highest pitchfork ever.

Speaker 75 Yeah, sure. 8.0.

Speaker 34 Mr. Rich.

Speaker 139 Great, great.

Speaker 69 And I think it's deserved.

Speaker 74 And also, it's so great to see it get the critical acclaim.

Speaker 34 But okay, so are we moving on to Gaga now?

Speaker 160 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 166 I mean, now you know she was on the podcast, which we had to keep a secret for a long time.

Speaker 98 Yes.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 259 you love her. I'm still not.

Speaker 34 So we're recording this on Monday, two days after the show.

Speaker 91 And I, God, just like

Speaker 34 that is a consummate entertainer in every way.

Speaker 143 Killa.

Speaker 34 I got to see the sound check for it on Thursday, and I lost my mind.

Speaker 153 So good.

Speaker 98 One of the most memorable, both of her performances,

Speaker 112 some of the most memorable in recent memory.

Speaker 58 We got to go on the floor to watch Abracadabra and you had been saying like,

Speaker 168 Abracadabra goes crazy.

Speaker 117 Crazy. And it did.

Speaker 74 And we were also just kicked before we started on the podcast.

Speaker 78 We were like, Gaga performed where Allie once performed.

Speaker 71 Gaga performed where Allie once performed.

Speaker 34 was honored to introduce her for Abrakadabra. So I brought my friends, my dressing room guests, which included Matt, two of the four.

Speaker 34 We were waiting in the tunnel steps away from the host quick change booth where she was getting into her red encrusted Loire bodysuit.

Speaker 98 Vocally warming up.

Speaker 34 Vocally warming up.

Speaker 24 Unbelievable to be able to be there while she was like in this zone, getting her voice ready and then just watching her walk on stage and just

Speaker 101 destroy that performance.

Speaker 34 At dress rehearsal, and I think this did happen on air too, but like on the walkout, when she was walking on stage, when everyone could, everyone in the audience could see her i've never heard a gasp like that everyone's like oh

Speaker 24 looks all night too like even when she was going over to the after party like yeah that was amazing and just you see the shots that they got of her coming out of the let me just

Speaker 34 her one eye and the one eye talking about truly good holding pip the mouse oh yeah oh holding pip the mouse the sketches were so good too just like on fire this week and i told bobby like uh this is like her manager was like i feel like this is reflective of like who she is, and and you know, maybe even on the nose, what the album is.

Speaker 34 I'm seeing on the nose, like my analysis of it, it's like

Speaker 34 all 10 to 1 sketches, yeah, weird.

Speaker 150 It was weird from the top.

Speaker 98 I was like, I remember the first sketch being that scooter sketch, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 122 We were all turning to each other in your dress, we're gonna be.

Speaker 80 I'm like, that was the first sketch, was like a huge

Speaker 87 swing, like, which I loved. I loved, and I'm like,

Speaker 34 wait, I'm like, so invested in this romance now between Marcelo and God,

Speaker 69 no,

Speaker 69 So sweet.

Speaker 69 That little hug.

Speaker 5 That was good.

Speaker 136 I'm getting a dog tomorrow.

Speaker 98 It is time for you, isn't it?

Speaker 69 I have like, I have like dog fever.

Speaker 87 Yeah. I need one.

Speaker 63 You're burning up.

Speaker 68 I need one and I'm burning up, burning up for you, baby.

Speaker 138 A Jonas Brothers shout.

Speaker 143 Yeah.

Speaker 66 Why not?

Speaker 121 Love them. Jersey Kings.

Speaker 78 Oh, I never really think about it like that.

Speaker 74 I never think about the Jonas Brothers as Jersey Kings, but I guess it's a rule of culture, number 30.

Speaker 69 The Jonas brothers are Jersey Kings.

Speaker 34 And then

Speaker 34 I can't believe I got to sing with her twice. That was never the plan.

Speaker 155 Bowen, that was amazing.

Speaker 34 The plan was always just, let's have fun. I'm going to try to write

Speaker 34 a couple things.

Speaker 34 And then I just lucked out in every possible way like this past week.

Speaker 74 You sounded so good. And I said, I was like, I was like, did you, did you actually do some sort of little vocal training?

Speaker 80 Cause your placement and like the ease with which you were getting up there, you do sing very high, but like you were very like something about being next to her.

Speaker 74 Yeah, like I was saying.

Speaker 34 I know that sounds crazy, but I would say at Chromatica Ball,

Speaker 18 I was the best singer.

Speaker 186 Well, we were on a lot of mushrooms.

Speaker 34 We were on a lot of mushrooms, but there's something about the chemical shit that happens, your brain chemistry.

Speaker 34 giving you

Speaker 117 singing ability.

Speaker 74 Y'all just hit 35 minutes, by the way.

Speaker 151 Thank you, Becca.

Speaker 96 Oh.

Speaker 71 No, that's a great way to communicate with us because

Speaker 34 we're just in it.

Speaker 219 You know, that's how producers talk to housewives on set.

Speaker 73 Yeah. So they'll, they'll, they have like, so what you don't know.

Speaker 34 What are you on right now? Google Docs? What do you, what are you on?

Speaker 156 That was a Google slide. That was a Google slide.

Speaker 74 Becca put up a Google slide just on a white background that said, y'all just hit 35 minutes, BTW.

Speaker 117 So I, at one point in my life, was hanging out with someone who produces for the housewives.

Speaker 146 Yes.

Speaker 117 And they were telling me that the way that they get them to ask certain questions is they'll put up like a, like a tablet, they'll show it to Meredith Marks and they'll be like, ask Angie about this, this, this

Speaker 34 on, like at the restaurant.

Speaker 121 And that's how they get reminded to answer certain questions or ask certain things, et cetera.

Speaker 86 Wow.

Speaker 74 Is that it's just a producer like our very own producer, Becca, was producing us just now.

Speaker 86 Yes.

Speaker 92 This is how it works.

Speaker 34 It's kind of like

Speaker 34 some person at a club like holding up their phone being like, play,

Speaker 34 play

Speaker 34 stream mayhem stream mayhem play Bophilia.

Speaker 93 Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 66 Um that's you.

Speaker 34 That's me.

Speaker 78 Play beophilia.

Speaker 69 Okay. What else?

Speaker 96 Gaga, gaga.

Speaker 87 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 126 I just amazing.

Speaker 34 Vocally, no, we just, we did like extensive music rehearsals with her in a way that like made me really appreciate like because she just kept turning to me and going

Speaker 34 it'll just be so much funnier if we sound great. And I was like, 100% 100%.

Speaker 34 And she was just so exact about the way things were phrased and the way things scanned on the melody. And

Speaker 34 so we found the right key because like it was in like,

Speaker 34 it was like in G and then we got it all the way up or down. I don't know.

Speaker 87 Girl, you were up there.

Speaker 34 We were, I think it was a B, a B sharp or a B, whatever. It was just like, we tried it out all these different ways.

Speaker 71 You got in your pocket.

Speaker 34 But like. to find the right key with a duet with gaga i didn't realize until literally just now what that sort of would like what that means to me.

Speaker 110 Yep.

Speaker 34 And it was so fun.

Speaker 147 I mean,

Speaker 69 I can't believe it.

Speaker 34 And then it's crazy. And then, I don't know, like

Speaker 34 what she said to us, what she said to me and Celeste, Newsflash, she loves Celeste.

Speaker 186 Everyone loves

Speaker 186 Celeste.

Speaker 34 Any person

Speaker 34 who you would think like seems distant or, I don't know, like unassailable in a way is obsessed with Celestium.

Speaker 34 And I get it. Yeah.

Speaker 69 Who would it be?

Speaker 179 Christopher Vega.

Speaker 21 The Christopher Vega.

Speaker 34 Matt's nickname for Celeste.

Speaker 21 For some reason.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 120 just it makes sense when you're there.

Speaker 69 It makes sense.

Speaker 77 It's like being next to Gaga singing.

Speaker 132 Exactly. It's like, you know.

Speaker 82 But Gaga was just like telling me and Celeste, and this is what she brought up on our episode, like community.

Speaker 34 She's really been revisiting this idea, this thing that she misses a lot about coming up in New York is that she was like every night doing shows at the Slipper Room, like having comedians on or doing like, like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 69 Like she was like, she was a New York artist.

Speaker 111 She was a New York artist.

Speaker 41 Community is so important.

Speaker 72 Doing her

Speaker 34 very different version of like what you and I were doing, not to like compare things, but it's like you and I would like bring our fucking props to like shows and like be on lineups with people.

Speaker 28 And that's how we got to meet people.

Speaker 18 And that's why we still keep in touch with these people and still have these relationships that we cultivate.

Speaker 108 Like, I completely,

Speaker 34 I love that this is the thing that she's like really returning to. She is like grounded and happy and like really inspired in a way that like we haven't seen

Speaker 34 in a long time. Not since Chromatica, but that was like during COVID when like we couldn't really see it.
She wasn't really out there doing too much press for it.

Speaker 34 And it feels like in the last five years, she's really been in that place. And

Speaker 34 I just love that she, that we got to intersect at all with her, that you and I did, that the show that SNL did.

Speaker 74 She's on like a mission of joy, too.

Speaker 75 I feel like the, the like emotional landscape of Chromatica was different because it came from a different place.

Speaker 102 Like she's on record saying I came from a place of real pain.

Speaker 74 And so she's so clearly joyful right now.

Speaker 75 And there was something about like, even with watching her bounce from sketch to sketch at SNL, et cetera, like watching her do.

Speaker 97 the press that she's doing surrounding mayhem and that she involved us in that was so lovely.

Speaker 74 And, you know, it's just, it feels like it's a really good moment.

Speaker 77 I also think, you you know, I'm obviously sitting here gagged at your singing in that sketch, but I don't think she's sounded better in years.

Speaker 6 And we were saying to her, like, obviously on the album, the, the way that she sings is just so mind-blowing.

Speaker 77 But, you know, I think it's the best singing that she's done in a real, which is obviously saying something.

Speaker 34 She's one of the greats, but perfect celebrity.

Speaker 145 You can't be.

Speaker 94 Even at the end of How Bad Do You Want Me?

Speaker 77 It is happening again where I listen to an album and I do get, I love everything on the album, but I get stuck on one song.

Speaker 69 That's totally normal.

Speaker 73 It happens every time something comes out.

Speaker 97 I get stuck on one song and just can't get over it.

Speaker 160 It's so

Speaker 75 It's so interesting watching the fans discuss that song.

Speaker 34 Well, you know, but Bobby, Bobby Campbell was saying, like, the day of the album coming out, he goes, it's just so interesting because like so much of what the fans are saying are just echoes of what you and Matt were saying in that

Speaker 117 way we listened to it.

Speaker 74 And like it it never crossed their minds they were like oh i guess it does sound like a taylor song because i did say 45 seconds into listening to how bad do you want me i did say this is giving taylor and bobby was like really yeah and i was like but is it not like it's sort of and that has i i will drag myself now and i will also drag everyone who's kind of saying that and here's why don't get upset yet what i'm going to say is Taylor didn't invent that kind of pop music.

Speaker 161 Go back to the fame.

Speaker 6 Like before Taylor was doing pop, like Lady Gaga had big emotional pop songs, like, Paparazzi, you know what I mean?

Speaker 133 Like, that's a big emotional pop song.

Speaker 87 And, like, Gaga also has roots in this kind of thing.

Speaker 112 She hasn't done it in a while.

Speaker 87 Right, right, right.

Speaker 5 But I feel like to give this entire genre to Taylor speaks a little bit to like Taylor's omnipresence, which I guess is understandable.

Speaker 94 Yes.

Speaker 86 But let's not say this isn't a Gaga song because it's very much a Gaga song if you give it some thought, I think.

Speaker 34 I just love that I'm in this. I like that I'm able to radiate out from this album and connect it to other gaga things where I'm like, this is the same woman who sang fucking

Speaker 34 Edge of Glory, which is basically like a Springsteen song, who sang Shallow, obviously,

Speaker 87 like,

Speaker 34 and everything off of Joan and everything, and like Rick Rubin shit on art pop. It's like, she's so expansive as an artist.
Like, it's a culmination. It's, it's like, she's my favorite.

Speaker 109 She's my favorite.

Speaker 102 Name another legend.

Speaker 10 Anyway.

Speaker 74 All right. No, did we feel like we did a culture catch-up?

Speaker 153 Is there anything that we missed that people are going to be saying, well, we missed it, which doesn't feel good.

Speaker 146 It doesn't feel good. No.
Oh, God.

Speaker 34 We don't like that. No, I think we covered our basis.
And now

Speaker 34 we present to you our very, very.

Speaker 34 We don't know what the conversation is yet because we haven't had it.

Speaker 6 I have some thoughts about things to ask her.

Speaker 96 Me too.

Speaker 260 Wouldn't you believe it?

Speaker 34 Wouldn't you believe it? We're so excited to talk to Kate Blanchette. Blanchette.

Speaker 69 Here it is, our conversation with two-time Academy Award winner Kate Blannie Blanchette.

Speaker 4 From the last show, your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 176 He wore it everywhere.

Speaker 24 Which was cute until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 175 But he was.

Speaker 173 I miss him.

Speaker 178 And there it is, same tea from the same tour, still living in your memory, rent-free, forever.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 182 But eBay isn't just forget whatever your ex/slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 176 And where else are you going to find your first car, a RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 142 eBay.

Speaker 10 I'll take a tagline.

Speaker 193 Right?

Speaker 16 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.

Speaker 67 Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 199 Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 8 True.

Speaker 170 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

Speaker 26 And there's so much included value, over $1,000. Right.

Speaker 57 Wi-Fi soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 217 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more, boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 220 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Biveny.

Speaker 61 Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia, and Curaçao.

Speaker 35 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode, too.

Speaker 19 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, The Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 79 She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.

Speaker 141 Book now at VirginVoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

Speaker 12 Kardashian plays Allura Grant, the most in-demand divorce attorney in Los Angeles.

Speaker 231 Get it?

Speaker 20 Naomi Watts, Nici Nash-Betts, Tiana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 241 And of course you need a villain, so say hello to Sarah Paulson as the nemesis.

Speaker 44 All's fair, now streaming on Hulu, and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 63 Day da-da-da-da-la-sculptoristas calling.

Speaker 74 Well, we're sitting here with one of the greatest ever.

Speaker 72 Truly, truly, truly one of the greatest ever.

Speaker 34 Okay, I mean, we're not gonna waste any time. She's here.
We've done a whole preamble already. Two-time Oscar winner, countless BAFTAs.

Speaker 81 And the winner of the Kate Blanchette Award for Good Acting at the Lost Culturistas Culture Awards, which I believe gagged the audience harder than anything that happened.

Speaker 94 Anything else?

Speaker 34 It was a harder gag than even when, like, I'm going to say Taylor sent in two videos and that was a gag.

Speaker 34 But when Kate Blanchette sent a, um, I was going to say wordless, but no, you did say the words, I won. Yes.

Speaker 94 You know, confetti went up in the air.

Speaker 93 It was a huge acceptance moment.

Speaker 148 I think your dog got scared.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a big moment for everybody.

Speaker 78 Yes.

Speaker 94 Well, it deserved it.

Speaker 75 I mean, this is the star of Black Bag, which is out this Friday, which we saw.

Speaker 155 We We love Soderbergh's new one.

Speaker 102 I mean, so exciting. And let's waste no more time.

Speaker 22 Everyone, please welcome into your ears.

Speaker 152 Kate Blanche!

Speaker 69 Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 258 Okay, we just discussed a shoe theory.

Speaker 73 Yeah, tell us this.

Speaker 259 No, I was told today

Speaker 1 while I was wearing white sneakers, that if you wear white sneakers, it means you're not getting any.

Speaker 1 You are not a fornicator. And I just went, hang on a minute.

Speaker 262 I'm stopping.

Speaker 116 I'm a fornicating messes.

Speaker 1 And I've been sending out really bad signals for quite a long time. I have three pairs which I wear.
I alternate. So I'm basically in, well, I'm not today I'm wearing heels.

Speaker 1 But a lot of the time I'm sending out non-fornication

Speaker 1 signals.

Speaker 74 Did this person seem like an authority on this?

Speaker 1 Or were you like, okay. He said it with great authority.
But I was, and I was very alarmed. You know, you think you get dressed, you're getting dressed for yourself.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't over, well, I mean, I didn't overthink the sequence

Speaker 1 you're in the right place but you know you don't you don't think that's a signal you're sending out right never maybe if you wore a nun's habit or a nuts to knee and gloves you think maybe oh is that so is that what this person was saying like it's a it's a chastity signal like well i don't know it was seemed to be a little bit like wearing your keys on whatever is that is that really 80s wait what's that about like my god like you guys

Speaker 136 know this

Speaker 80 70s and 80s. I think this is

Speaker 1 gay, and I know this.

Speaker 74 Like, as like a, as like a way to, like, say,

Speaker 73 no, you just did that.

Speaker 1 So, if you do that, does that mean I'm available?

Speaker 152 Oh, I'm available.

Speaker 112 Everything I do is shouting that I'm available.

Speaker 74 And I also want to say, I wear white sneakers a lot. And you were saying, and I don't have problems.

Speaker 34 Before we rolled it, Matt was sex problems.

Speaker 146 You don't have to. I don't have problems with Leanna.

Speaker 94 I'm not getting it.

Speaker 102 No, I'm saying my sluttiest times were when I was in a white converse.

Speaker 5 I used to wear a white leather converse to like weddings where I was single.

Speaker 1 But you, were you wearing anything else?

Speaker 74 I was wearing like a blue suit or a red suit.

Speaker 137 My wedding sort of dragged.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 22 And then a white leather converse because I think I'm gay and can get away with it.

Speaker 75 You go to a straight wedding and you can kind of take a swing with the shoe.

Speaker 1 Okay. You know what I mean? But not with a white converse.
Apparently, did you get, did you get any that either? I did.

Speaker 164 I hooked up with the bride.

Speaker 125 Oh, okay, so it's rubbish.

Speaker 126 Yes, I'm telling you.

Speaker 63 I don't need to be worried.

Speaker 1 I can put them back on. My bunion will be so happy.

Speaker 118 Here you you go. Buy another pair.

Speaker 69 I'm going to buy another pair.

Speaker 107 Honestly, though, because they're white, they get a little scuffed.

Speaker 32 You need a backup and a backup back.

Speaker 163 But that's what I said.

Speaker 1 I said in a very apologetic way. I said, well, they're a little bit scuffy and dirty.
So does that mean

Speaker 33 you've been out in the streets?

Speaker 1 Maybe that looks desperate.

Speaker 1 That's like, I'm trying to pretend that I'm not wearing them anyway. I was freaked out.
No. By a message that I didn't know that I was sending.

Speaker 5 I don't believe anyone believes that.

Speaker 16 You don't give me a not getting any.

Speaker 33 No, you don't give celibate.

Speaker 1 Okay, I don't give celibate.

Speaker 163 No.

Speaker 62 Thank you so much.

Speaker 261 I came into the restaurant with a crazy one.

Speaker 143 Could you play celibate?

Speaker 107 Could you play celibate?

Speaker 69 Have you played celibate?

Speaker 34 Have you played a nun?

Speaker 1 Not intentionally.

Speaker 69 Right. I have played a nun.
Uh-huh. An alcoholic nun.

Speaker 114 Yes. An alcoholic nun.

Speaker 126 Yes.

Speaker 105 Which film was that?

Speaker 1 And then prostrated herself on the grave of a priest, but I don't think that that was sexual.

Speaker 69 Okay.

Speaker 262 At least intentionally.

Speaker 258 I see.

Speaker 34 And did it feel right in the body? Did it feel good in the spirit? Like you would do it again?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't wear underwear. Okay.
But it was set back in time. Yeah.
You know, the worst. Now, speaking of not wearing underwear, when I played Queen of the Elves,

Speaker 1 they gave the, I don't know, the toy manufacturing thing to some company.

Speaker 1 And a lot of the hobbits were very upset because they didn't feel that those toys were going to be made properly. And I had a little, and then I had one child and I now have four.

Speaker 80 So clearly, I fornicate.

Speaker 127 There is no issue here.

Speaker 1 But I gave the elf toy of me, Elf Galadriel, to my son. And he was really upset because he said elves don't wear underwear.
And they hadn't bothered to put underwear on the elf toy.

Speaker 109 But they did for the hobbits.

Speaker 69 You said?

Speaker 1 No, no, but the hobbits were upset because they didn't feel the toys are going to be made properly. And they weren't because I wore underwear as an elf.
I think elves do wear underwear.

Speaker 1 Elves do you wear underwear?

Speaker 94 I think so.

Speaker 34 When you say the hobbits were upset, do you mean the actors who play the hobbits? Are you sure you're talking about the elbows?

Speaker 69 My elf friends.

Speaker 96 Yes.

Speaker 143 The hobbit community.

Speaker 1 Oh, I meant, I meant the hobby, the actor hobbits.

Speaker 69 Yeah, like a lot of hotels. They're not really hobbits, right? Right, right.

Speaker 33 They weren't really hobbits.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 34 No, I guess I have not ever had the experience of having a toy made of me in my family.

Speaker 66 Oh, you will.

Speaker 63 I don't think so.

Speaker 82 That will be, that injustice will be corrected.

Speaker 69 Do you have input in that process?

Speaker 1 Well, no, clearly, I didn't because if they had asked me,

Speaker 1 I would have said they had knitted underwear.

Speaker 11 Yeah, knitted underwear.

Speaker 1 I think Galantriel out of elf kind of web.

Speaker 69 Yeah. Sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 34 But if you're immortal, if you're an elf in Tolkien's world in Middle-earth, it's like...

Speaker 1 You don't need to wash your underwear, but you need to wear it.

Speaker 143 Yes.

Speaker 86 Yeah. All right.
Wow.

Speaker 83 I never thought about their process in terms of like their sartorial.

Speaker 1 No, we should see this toy. It was disgusting.
It's like Bobby not having genitals. Do you think after the Barbie movie that the Barbies are now going to have genitals?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's where kids learn about stuff.

Speaker 75 You know what's funny?

Speaker 22 One time I remember seeing when I was a kid, there was a Ken with like more of a lump there.

Speaker 112 And I was being, it did weird me out.

Speaker 58 And I was like, if people thought this was something that needed to be corrected, I can now tell you as someone who's seen a Ken with a penis, we didn't need this.

Speaker 1 But it was a lump is not a penis.

Speaker 262 But it was a suggestion.

Speaker 156 A lump is something you need to get checked. Yeah.

Speaker 73 Right. I needed help with that.

Speaker 110 But I know.

Speaker 69 That's a term Ken.

Speaker 1 I know. I didn't learn a lot from Barbies growing up.

Speaker 126 Or Ken's. What did you play with?

Speaker 1 What did I play with? As a kid?

Speaker 1 I had a ballerina Barbie. And so the crown, you could turn her around

Speaker 1 i i had one of i which i loved is i had one of those dolls which was a red riding hood wolf doll and when you turned it upside down it was the wolf and the other way around so you don't you can do the world with a voice yes i love it and the wolf had a skirt

Speaker 34 well yes when it was the wolf right oh but the wolf was dressed as the grandmother

Speaker 73 Oh wait,

Speaker 73 was it Red Riding Hood and the wolf?

Speaker 133 Because that changes the story in a way that I was.

Speaker 63 I was the grandmother.

Speaker 69 Oh, wow.

Speaker 34 But the wolf was dressed as the grandmother.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the skirt was kind of brown. Okay.
It was a bit Amish. It was an Amish.

Speaker 262 I got it.

Speaker 126 God, what a performance they were giving.

Speaker 99 What did you guys play with?

Speaker 34 I had an Aladdin Ken doll, and he had the suggestion of a lump as well.

Speaker 63 Okay.

Speaker 34 And I kind of a queer awakening for me. I went, well, he's really handsome.
I'd like to see him naked. Right.
You know, I think, okay, so you're saying children learn from these dolls.

Speaker 104 Well, they could.

Speaker 81 Right.

Speaker 1 They could learn from the dolls.

Speaker 1 I just, I'm not learning as much as I am, just just like intrigued by my own like fascination you know what i mean like i'm well you definitely with those dolls they're made to be dressed and undressed right so it could be i mean then when it's your body starts to change and you go oh okay yeah i think one of my favorite parts this is no longer a lump it's something this lump does something it's meaning something else one of my favorite parts of the barbie movie was the depiction of like the fucked barbie that kate mckinnon played the one that was just rode hard and put away wet because i really was the king of the the Barbies.

Speaker 74 My sister had dozens of them for some reason.

Speaker 1 And you were never given any?

Speaker 74 So, no, but I kind of was, I did.

Speaker 102 I remember actually one of my earliest memories, I'm from Long Island, was sitting on Santa's lap and asking for a Barbie and his reaction being really negative.

Speaker 14 Oh, and so I could never ask for one because it was really explicit in that moment, like, don't ask for that.

Speaker 95 Like, yes, sort of Long Island man playing Santa really instantly.

Speaker 1 Which is creepy anyway. Exactly.

Speaker 110 I mean, it's really that, that's all a lot.

Speaker 1 We did the visit to the grotto with our kids one time when they were little, and they were like, this is wrong.

Speaker 76 And you're sort of watching it as a parent, like seeing the pageantry a little differently, I would imagine.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I think I was quite traumatized by the Santa Claus grotto growing up.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 145 All the photos were like, get me out of here.

Speaker 1 Kids can smell the booze.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Parents taking the photo are slightly removed so they can't smell it at all.

Speaker 34 They're not within an inch of, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm sure that was before they did the safety chair.

Speaker 74 Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is like allowing your children to go over there and have like a private conversation with this like with a dude who's wearing you who you cannot recognize.

Speaker 69 Who's just

Speaker 34 ensconced in like all this like fun

Speaker 34 friendly stuff. And it's just, it's dark.
It belies something very dark.

Speaker 1 It does very dark.

Speaker 102 The Barbie thing I remember for us, me and my sister, was a lot about survival.

Speaker 74 We would play Titanic with the Barbies and like they would, they would slowly one by one pass away

Speaker 117 to the devastation that was caused by the Titanic hitting that iceberg in 1920.

Speaker 1 And the one that remained got to be undressed.

Speaker 144 It was

Speaker 1 always all about undressing.

Speaker 107 It was always like,

Speaker 107 this is me as a kid. It was always like the blonde, prettiest Barbie.

Speaker 68 She wore like a blue, very shiny mini dress.

Speaker 119 And it was always her. She was always the sole survivor of the rose, as it were.

Speaker 140 But yeah, no, I do remember like really loving that group of, that community of women that was the Barbies, the ensemble cast.

Speaker 1 I know, and you never had your own.

Speaker 105 But I only had the one.

Speaker 1 I found them boring in the end. Right.
I love the movie, but I found, yeah, the actual. So my kids have never had

Speaker 1 Barbies.

Speaker 99 Probably good.

Speaker 34 Would you, besides Galadriel, would you want other characters that you portrayed to be dolls? I feel like

Speaker 34 a Shiba Hart doll would be very fun. A Notes on a Scandal doll set would be very fun.

Speaker 1 That would be interesting.

Speaker 87 That would be interesting.

Speaker 1 There were some really good games you could play with those dolls.

Speaker 153 You know what's funny?

Speaker 5 Separately of each other, we were like, we obviously watched Black Bag Phenomenal. And then we each picked one of your other movies watching last night, didn't tell each other.

Speaker 5 It was notes on a schedule schedule.

Speaker 132 It is one of our favorite films.

Speaker 76 It is fun every time.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. She turns 90-something wonderful.
Wow. Or she's just had her birthday.

Speaker 110 She's a young man.

Speaker 201 Juno Temple.

Speaker 69 A young Juno Temple. Why is she my dad?

Speaker 111 That's how old I am.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but she was fabulous.

Speaker 168 Well, she's amazing.

Speaker 161 I wanted to ask, like, the

Speaker 6 really just pronounced queerness of your filmography.

Speaker 80 Is that like, it's really, it's really something.

Speaker 74 I mean, I was thinking about it, and there's, there's elements of this in a lot of what you do.

Speaker 151 Really?

Speaker 51 Yeah. I mean, tar, obviously.

Speaker 1 I guess, I guess it's growing up in Sydney.

Speaker 33 Yeah, yeah, you think so.

Speaker 1 I spent so much time at Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gar, which was just wild. I think it's been a bit OHNS now, but the parties were so fabulous.

Speaker 58 I went a couple of years ago for a World Pride, and I was really blown away by how Sydney really committed to and embraced the fact that they were hosting Pride.

Speaker 14 It was really lovely, especially now with everything going on.

Speaker 22 Looking back at that, I was like, I wonder if an American city would go for it this hard because Sydney was, it really felt beautiful to be there because it felt like a very queer city.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it totally is.

Speaker 69 What is OHS?

Speaker 1 It's occupational health and safety.

Speaker 62 Oh,

Speaker 63 I see. I see.

Speaker 146 I see.

Speaker 1 Did I, did I?

Speaker 66 I was recognizing right?

Speaker 56 Wait, so, and this, you're saying Australian Mardi Gras?

Speaker 1 The things that went on in those

Speaker 1 bathrooms, in those fire traps,

Speaker 1 in the clubs that, but you know, you were probably too young to go to, you know, that they've, they've all been kind of cordoned off.

Speaker 110 Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 34 I feel like you would have a fun experience going to, I think those events are still happening the world over.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 26 I would encourage you to

Speaker 1 seek him out in my white sneakers. And your white sneakers.

Speaker 69 Yeah. Hey, dude, back off.

Speaker 139 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Listen.

Speaker 69 Leave me alone.

Speaker 65 I'm not interested.

Speaker 40 Don't you see my feet?

Speaker 125 I'm a non-fornicator.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 68 Hello. Look at the shoes.

Speaker 117 We're going to Berlin in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 155 We're going to go to Burkheim.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Have you been?

Speaker 118 Yes.

Speaker 160 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Once. It's pretty wild.

Speaker 77 Did you wait in line and like do the whole thing of being weird?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I knew someone who knew someone who knew something.

Speaker 111 Okay, I gotcha. Was this recent?

Speaker 1 I can't remember. Maybe five, six years ago.

Speaker 69 Okay.

Speaker 1 It was pre-COVID.

Speaker 87 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 151 Just pre-COVID, I guess.

Speaker 154 This will be our first time.

Speaker 1 You don't need to keep your eyes open. Things just happen.
Things are.

Speaker 146 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 69 You can close your eyes and things happen.

Speaker 1 And things happen. Oh, depends.
Well, it depends where you are. It's a bit of a labyrinth.
Sure. I mean, and look, there were things and places that I did not go into.
Sure.

Speaker 1 I'm just a bit too genetic for me.

Speaker 78 A bit too genetic is what I love about it.

Speaker 87 A bit too genetic.

Speaker 34 I just want to go to the. Did you go to the gelato stand?

Speaker 69 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 82 Is this a famous thing? Yeah.

Speaker 34 There's a gelato stand that people like.

Speaker 34 Everyone's just serving gelato.

Speaker 101 Oh, I love it. At all.

Speaker 1 Light relief.

Speaker 62 Sure.

Speaker 49 Just a little a palate cleanser

Speaker 1 yeah oh that's fun from the delights from the the carnal pleasure yeah oh wow so is this a um a research trip it is

Speaker 111 how did you how did you know how did you know i didn't know i just assumed yeah

Speaker 127 there was a glimmer in our eye

Speaker 34 oh wow no we're excited okay i don't i don't want to prize it out no no no you did prize it out i i i was just gonna say we I can't tell if we want to go down the friend of a friend of a friend route or if we I think it would be informative for us to wait in the line.

Speaker 87 And either way, being rejected, yes, they won't reject you.

Speaker 98 I don't know.

Speaker 34 I think they might.

Speaker 69 I think I'm.

Speaker 126 I don't think you look gay at all.

Speaker 69 Is that would that count against us?

Speaker 62 I know.

Speaker 69 What are they looking for? I don't know.

Speaker 33 You're too gay. But we won't wear white shoes because what if they feel that way?

Speaker 34 What if they feel that this week? I was telling Gaga this when she was at SNL. I was like, she was like, what are you doing for Christmas?

Speaker 1 Oh, how amazing.

Speaker 33 Oh, she was amazing.

Speaker 34 She was phenomenal.

Speaker 87 God.

Speaker 1 Phenomenal anyway. Anyway.
But the only thing more exciting was you introduced.

Speaker 127 I know.

Speaker 107 I'm not excited. I'm not excited.

Speaker 153 It was

Speaker 21 amazing.

Speaker 65 It was volcanic.

Speaker 71 It was volcanic. No, I did erupt.

Speaker 34 She was saying that she has been turned away.

Speaker 34 She has been turned away from that line because they were like, I think the implication was, she was like, I think it was because I was a woman and it was a bit too sexy of a night, a bit too fornicated of a night in a way that was exclusive to phalluses.

Speaker 34 You know what I mean? Oh, okay. So I think maybe that's a thing that happens depending on if you're going to collaborator.

Speaker 1 She could have bought one.

Speaker 90 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 69 We can all buy an allastus.

Speaker 156 We can all buy a phallus.

Speaker 111 You can't buy a hole.

Speaker 34 You can't buy an orifice.

Speaker 98 Wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 1 Well, you have many of them.

Speaker 126 So many.

Speaker 34 But don't you want to like, I think buying a phallus gives you like a degree of removal in a way that you're like, oh,

Speaker 34 I'm purely using it as an initial. I can put this away.
Yeah. I can put this away.

Speaker 34 A hole is a hole and you're stuck with it.

Speaker 1 I don't mind being stuck with mine. I'm happy.

Speaker 21 I don't want to please to have all the holes I have yes but I'm

Speaker 1 talk to me after you've been to Bergheim

Speaker 1 this is for family communities I don't think anyone's they're not going to be shook by anything we say on this but are you are you taking in a microphone you're bringing you won't be allowed to take it in unless you oh no we're not taking

Speaker 34 anything in but it's it's research it's research where the phone the phone's being put away Right.

Speaker 1 But there's so, actually, there's so few spaces that you can go now where you are private like that, where people can really.

Speaker 1 That's what I loved about the late 80s going to all of the dance parties in Sydney for the Mardi Gras is because people were just there.

Speaker 107 They were so present.

Speaker 1 They were just together, collectively having a great time that was non-aggressive. No one was being recorded.
No one cared what anyone did.

Speaker 5 The other night we went to a place like that.

Speaker 22 There's a place called Basement.

Speaker 116 Yes.

Speaker 146 And they put the tag on the phone.

Speaker 77 It was

Speaker 103 it celebrated the idea.

Speaker 1 And it's such a relief of, I think people are profoundly relieved. Yeah.
And they feel, I don't need to record this. Right.
I can just tell people or not.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 34 But now it feels like that chasm between that kind of event, that ideal is widening from the thing that's very common now at like an award show, let's say, where you've got lip readers, you're being photographed in between like lip readers.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, on TikTok, there'll be people that are, you know looking at a video of two celebrities talking to each other and at an award show they'll lip breed

Speaker 117 and it looks like it's it looks like it could be exactly what they're saying in a way that's a little bit odd that's really what i mean

Speaker 1 do something learn ikibana or something i mean it's like the skill of

Speaker 202 beautiful yeah wow but that makes it feel even kind of more yeah treacherous yeah it is treacherous you know you do see celebrities nowadays on the carpet going like this a lot because you know, those are the ones on TikTok and know they're at risk of being lip-red.

Speaker 151 Yeah.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I mean, I say, I mean, it's blasphemy. Go back to the day when it wasn't televised.

Speaker 1 You know, bring that back and just have a great party where people can just let go.

Speaker 1 I mean, the industry is so scattered and such a point of, which I think could potentially be exciting or it could be really depressing. Right.
But it's at a pivot point.

Speaker 1 And so we need to gather together and celebrate what it is that we do

Speaker 1 without it having to have any public facing. I mean, the fashion's great and all of that stuff.
We will find out in the end who won or who didn't win.

Speaker 87 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, but it would be so nice that that happened behind closed doors.

Speaker 132 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 It would be a very different evening.

Speaker 77 You were saying that,

Speaker 102 especially after, you know, the Oscars just happened and there's, it just feels like the march to that evening is so long.

Speaker 120 Do you feel there's maybe too many ceremonies?

Speaker 109 Yes. Yeah.
Well, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 34 Like untelevise them about them.

Speaker 69 Yeah. Yeah, still have them.

Speaker 1 It's so great. It's so great that people's work is celebrated.
And we, and that way, I think there's a kind of a sense that, because this is the thing is you, all these films are amazing.

Speaker 1 And so many amazing films and performances and all of the craft awards, cinematography, and, you know,

Speaker 1 you want to celebrate them.

Speaker 1 But you can get sick of those films by the time, because they all get whittled down as they must.

Speaker 1 And then I don't want to get sick of any of those films because they're brilliant. Yeah.

Speaker 14 And it's like on Facebook Value, there doesn't need to be an over-conversation about Anora, the way that it's happening online and stuff like that to the point where we really lose the forest for the trees.

Speaker 62 That's a great film.

Speaker 1 Everyone in it is amazing, full-stars. And Sean Baker is a genius.

Speaker 69 Yes, he is.

Speaker 219 I've been such a fan of his work for such a long time.

Speaker 150 He's brilliant.

Speaker 264 Yeah, Red Rocket was

Speaker 228 really incredible.

Speaker 1 When she got off the bed with him and then sang like an angel

Speaker 1 at the synth, it was just breathtaking.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Even just his earliest stuff has the same DNA of like the realism to it. It's all pretty consistent.

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Speaker 34 What was the most Soderbergh thing that he did on Blackbag? I feel like he's such an expansive filmmaker. He can do pretty much anything.

Speaker 34 Like, I think it's crazy that he's like under budget so many times when he makes

Speaker 63 it under time.

Speaker 1 He's got this. He made the presence, if you haven't seen that recently,

Speaker 1 Lucy Lou was in it and the cast was amazing.

Speaker 1 And it was set in a house where a family moved moved in and it was haunted by a presence and so the whole narrative unfolds according to what the presence in the house learns so this pot it's amazing but he shot that i think in nine or 11 days what so it's like oh man how how quickly are we going to shoot black bag but the thing with soderberg is he's so economical he's so he always gets into work early he knows how he's going to shoot it but the reason why he started to operate i asked him finally i'd worked with him before but i'd forgotten to ask him he edits he lights yeah he shoots he directs.

Speaker 1 He doesn't write anymore. But he said the reason why he operates is because he wants it to keep moving and flowing.

Speaker 1 And he doesn't want the actors to go off the boil wading around between takes and setups. And so, what he does is you start at the normal time, but you're done by three, which is great because

Speaker 1 you want to pick up your kids from school or, I don't know, get on a plane and go to Bergheim, whatever the exact thing.

Speaker 1 But then what he does, he's such a workhorse, is he goes and he edits. And so

Speaker 1 where he spends the money is keeping the sets open. So if he needs to pick something up, he can.
And so he assembles the thing, but then he's really forensic. He goes, no, that's too long.

Speaker 1 No, that piece of information needs to be revealed there. And so it's a really fluid thing with him.
So you've got to dance with him.

Speaker 1 But he did say, typical Soderbergh was, I said, we did one take and he wanted to move on.

Speaker 1 And I said to him, I said, I said, are we moving on because you're bored or because you've got it? And he went, yes, and yes.

Speaker 69 And so he was bored with me and he got it.

Speaker 1 So he's, but he's great. He's really blunt, but he, he really, really loves actors.
And the cast in Black Bag is a great ensemble.

Speaker 168 Yeah, it's really,

Speaker 74 I was surprised

Speaker 6 that it was such an ensemble.

Speaker 16 Like, it is.

Speaker 74 And then it really is.

Speaker 75 Like, it's like watching a very thrilling, stylish play.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 77 And I say that in obviously the most, you know, infernt one.

Speaker 34 Not to spoil it. There's, there's, like, there's like a fun, like, almost like poirot, Agatha Christie-esque ending to it that I loved.

Speaker 1 Well, it's basically about Fast Bender, Mike Fast Bender and I play husband and wife and they're espionage, you know, MI5, MI6, but it's all with technology.

Speaker 1 It was a real, it's like, oh my God, I can't even open my phone. But so that was the acting bit that I had to do.
But they're devoted to each other. They're married.

Speaker 1 And then he suspects her of being involved in this, releasing this cyberworm, which sounds pretty icky.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't want to hear the noise that a cyberworm.

Speaker 78 Yeah, I was going to say.

Speaker 33 Did you ever see that cronberg film?

Speaker 1 You know the Cronberg film Existence Existence?

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 118 We're squeezing it.

Speaker 65 Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 The noise that it made when Jennifer Jason Lee and Jude Lorp put the portal into their body. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 It made me want to throw, it was like...

Speaker 83 How did you feel about the substance?

Speaker 1 The substance? What the noises in the substance? Yeah, the noises.

Speaker 150 I thought the sound was unreal.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. I'd had a similar kind of thing.

Speaker 34 Misophonia? Misophonia?

Speaker 1 Yes, mesophonia and xenophobia. Okay.
Which is what Tar had.

Speaker 80 Yes. Oh, right.
Yeah.

Speaker 74 So speaking of Tar, because this was truly our favorite movie.

Speaker 5 I remember we watched it.

Speaker 74 Or we didn't see it together.

Speaker 34 We didn't see it together, but we both had the same exact check-in with each other. We were like, wow, wow, wow.

Speaker 219 Well, I remember leaving the movie the first time and feeling really confused after the first five or 10 minutes walking out of the movie being like, what?

Speaker 22 And then I realized, like, as I thought of it, I was like, that was phenomenal.

Speaker 97 And it just wasn't ultimately the genre I thought it was going to be at the top.

Speaker 74 I thought it ended up being this like incredibly funny satire in a way, but also like presenting as this like very stark drama from the whole time. And it is both of those things.

Speaker 38 But the question I wanted to ask you was, and I find this with several of your movies.

Speaker 74 Are you ever really surprised when you see the end result of something in terms of the tone and genre from when you read it the first time?

Speaker 1 There was so much. I mean, tar made in first sitting, because it asks a lot of the audience.

Speaker 150 Right.

Speaker 1 It made a lot of people really angry.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I was really grateful to the critics and the people who had seen it, who kept alive all of the other balls that Todd Field had written.

Speaker 1 Because people said, oh, it's about cancel culture or it's about abuses of power. But it wasn't, I always thought it was about

Speaker 1 what happens in the art, for me personally, anyway. When we create something, we forget that we have to destroy something, you know, and so it's the destructive urge in the creative force.

Speaker 1 You don't have to be an artist to have a creative force, but we all want to make something in the world. But you often have to be very brutal with yourself when

Speaker 1 you make that. So, and there was quite a lot of, there was kind of a ghost story in there.
Absolutely. And so, we, you know, and there were elements in there.
I guess it's far enough away.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to talk about it when it was coming out because because you don't want to tell an audience too much with a movie like that. No, definitely.

Speaker 1 But, you know, we shot things or talked about things that we decided not to shoot in the end. You know, that

Speaker 1 the gift, and I've got friends who are conductors who have perfect pitch.

Speaker 90 You probably have perfect pitch,

Speaker 1 I do not.

Speaker 1 I apparently have a three-octave range, though.

Speaker 21 Wow.

Speaker 69 Apparently.

Speaker 85 I just wanted to throw that in there.

Speaker 66 Here we go.

Speaker 1 No, but that she had perfect pitch and incredible music ability that her parents were. She was raised by deaf parents.

Speaker 1 So when I thought about the early, it was an early sequence. And these are very, very minor things that I used.

Speaker 1 There was a shot, I think, from memory of her conducting as a student, which I think it ended up in the movie. And I used sign language

Speaker 1 to how I conducted that. But that was just fun.
I mean, you know, they're not even Easter eggs because you're not ever thinking that the audience will pick those things up.

Speaker 1 But there was so much in there.

Speaker 163 And he's such a great writer.

Speaker 1 I have to get him out of the barn, Toddfield, so he makes another film before 10 years pass.

Speaker 34 The barn.

Speaker 63 The barn there.

Speaker 8 But it's hard to pry someone out of a barn.

Speaker 6 It is due to a bunch of people. They're cozy.

Speaker 34 No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 66 Do you have a barn? God.

Speaker 1 Do you want a barn?

Speaker 69 I want a barn.

Speaker 1 You want someone to prize you out of it.

Speaker 63 I'm going into the barn.

Speaker 34 I would love a barn. Are you kidding?

Speaker 140 I think you'd be great in a barn.

Speaker 154 I really do. Thank you.

Speaker 34 I think I would love a barn personally.

Speaker 75 Not very good with hay and all that.

Speaker 69 No, it doesn't have to be hay.

Speaker 74 No, it's just, I like my little creature comforts, but so do you.

Speaker 97 Now I'm thinking you wouldn't love a barn. No.

Speaker 1 You get a cashmere barn, cashmere blind barn,

Speaker 62 a little barn.

Speaker 105 A barn by Wayfair.

Speaker 6 I don't mean a barn functionally.

Speaker 34 I mean a barn just in terms of a metaphorical

Speaker 69 barn.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He has a literal and a metaphorical.

Speaker 34 There you go. It's a two-for job.
It's like you got to bring him out of the headspace and the actual physical space.

Speaker 87 True. Well, true.

Speaker 34 I mean, tar is just, for me, do you consider it a comedy? Because I feel like it's one of the great comedies.

Speaker 1 It was really funny. Yeah.
You know, I mean, how seriously she took herself.

Speaker 75 The second time I watched it, I couldn't stop laughing at the first conversation she's had on the top of that.

Speaker 69 That's so funny.

Speaker 74 Just how seriously she takes herself and like the performance that is happening and really the amount of ego.

Speaker 5 Because that was, that's really ultimately, I think, it's just like crazy meditation on ego.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it is.

Speaker 1 But you have to, having stepped onto the podium in front of the Dresden Philharmonic as a woman you know but but as a conductor anyway is they sense fear so you have to as a conductor you have to have a lot of chutzpah yeah and that you have to say this is where we're going yeah and because i i realize it's a bit like boarding school like a lot of the members they're all soloists right but the conductor has to bring them to make one unified sound so there's a lot of egos and complications and they would all come up to me and start talking to me and telling me things about you know i i know i'm acting as the first cello, but I'm really only the second cello.

Speaker 1 So I'm really concerned about, and it was like, you have to hold all of this stuff together. But I, I got up there and they hadn't played together because of COVID.

Speaker 1 They had the orchestra hadn't played together for quite a long, many, many months.

Speaker 1 And so when I, I said, look, in my bad German, I said, when I'm,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm not an act, I mean, I'm not a conductor, you're not actors, and we're going to have to swap roles. So let's be patient with one another.

Speaker 1 And I gave the downbeat at the rehearsal, and they didn't follow me.

Speaker 1 And I went, let's start again. And they all went, oh, and they realized, in fact, that I didn't, I mean, I was, I was winging it.

Speaker 1 I did a lot of, you know, preparation and I examined the score and everything. And I had the music in my, those bits of music in my head.
But it was such a gift because then they had to lean in.

Speaker 1 And realize that we did have to do it together. But it's not a film about conducting.

Speaker 258 So it's not.

Speaker 34 Well, I feel like you telling that story filtered through the character of Lydia Tartar makes me think of like, I am Petra's father.

Speaker 34 It's like that is that that's the same person in a completely different context of like, no, like she thinks of herself as she is that person that like is being like called for at the school or something.

Speaker 87 Yeah. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think she was probably mercilessly bullied herself.

Speaker 145 You think.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's also, I think, when you have an exceptional gift like that, and I always imagined her having parents who were made fun of and who couldn't hear the thing that she loved, it's a really complicating thing.

Speaker 1 And I, and I, it's all these little things that, because he's Todd is an amazing director, but also an amazing writer, is he put all these little clues in that she went and she'd obviously spent a lot of time with the Shapibo-Kinibo people taking ayahuasca.

Speaker 264 Right.

Speaker 1 And if I'd had enough time, I would have done a little bit more research

Speaker 33 into that part of it.

Speaker 1 But, you know, like she's, she was really adventurous. And so she, she, you know, she did, she was running away from something herself.

Speaker 1 And, and also coming out of COVID, I don't know what you guys did. You probably were able to continue the podcast, right?

Speaker 263 Yes, it was.

Speaker 154 But if you couldn't do

Speaker 1 what you do, if you couldn't make music and you were Lydia tar for two years,

Speaker 1 what happens? Your creative erd turns destructive. Yes.

Speaker 264 So, you know, I thought about all of that stuff.

Speaker 138 We're talking about so many elements of a movie like this, you know, obviously like huge respect for the director and like real interest in the incredibly dynamic character and this story that you can read in so many different ways.

Speaker 74 I wonder when you are embarking on something or you're sent a script, is there one of those elements, whether it's like the people you get to work with or the story itself or the specific character, is there something that you feel is what pulls you each and every time?

Speaker 77 Or is it different?

Speaker 41 I would imagine it's a combination, but for you, if you could speak to that.

Speaker 1 You know, it's the couple of of times early on when i accepted to do a script based on the role

Speaker 1 it's always been slightly disappointing because it's like a theater script is called a play because you have to play with it it's it's not a work of literature and so It's always now for me about the director.

Speaker 1 It's never the role. Yeah.
So, because it doesn't matter, you could be acting your socks off.

Speaker 1 But if the camera's in the wrong position or, you know, you haven't all been cast in the right way or you haven't been brought together by the director director into an ensemble, the thing won't lift off.

Speaker 1 And so it won't mean anything to an audience.

Speaker 1 And so, for example, with Black Bag, working, I'd worked with Stephen, and when we were, my husband and I were running the Sydney Theatre Company, he came in our first season and he wanted to do an all-male production of All About Eve, but we couldn't get it.

Speaker 69 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 So he got obsessed with Nancy Grace and the Casey Anthony story. And he concocted this bizarre, fascinating theater piece.

Speaker 1 But when he called me and said he had a slot and David Kepp had written this great ensemble piece, it was to work with him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, it was Fast Binder and Tom Burke, who's in amazing, I'm on stage with, and the seagull at the Barbican in London.

Speaker 1 And so it is the director, and then I'm fascinated with who they want to cast.

Speaker 168 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 166 You realize that more and more it is about the people.

Speaker 118 Yes.

Speaker 34 It's not necessarily about what you feels counterintuitive, but it's not necessarily about the content in the primary way.

Speaker 201 Yeah, it's not about the role. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, because sometimes it's like, wow, you know, that's a piece of action, or I haven't spoken to that audience before, or, you know, that's a chamber piece.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, in fact, that character's really still. I've been moving around too much.
Yeah, here you go. So sometimes, yeah, I don't know.
But

Speaker 1 I don't know that I necessarily want to do it anymore anyway. I think I want to spend time with my chickens and my gardens and

Speaker 16 you need a barn piece.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 144 With an occasional Berghunt trip.

Speaker 69 Yes.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I will venture out to Berghunt from the barn. Come on.

Speaker 71 Let's go. We're reading a book now in the research.

Speaker 34 It's called Lost and Sound, The Beginnings of Bergheim and the Easy Jet Set. So this writer

Speaker 34 is kind of putting out this theory that like with the introduction of EasyJet in Europe, with budget travel within Europe.

Speaker 69 Oh, it eroded the integrity.

Speaker 34 Not the integrity. It just brought people to Berlin and it created a nightlife capital in Berlin after the wall went down.

Speaker 34 With techno coming out of Detroit, it's like it all kind of aligned in a way that like made it this magical, still magical thing that must be preserved because it's a cultural site now.

Speaker 34 It's considered a concert venue and not necessarily a club.

Speaker 1 But you know, they have to be really careful. Having Thomas Ostermeyer, who runs the Schaubuna in Berlin, has directed this production of The Seagull.

Speaker 1 He's such an amazing person and an amazing director. But they are, you know, so many Australians are in.

Speaker 1 Berlin because you get to, you don't apologize for, you know, being a musician or an actor or a painter or a writer or whatever, where you kind of do in Australia.

Speaker 1 But he was saying, like, cultural funding is really going down. And they don't, it's such a, it's a stupidity from an economic point of view, let alone a cultural point of view.

Speaker 1 You know, you talk about culture on your podcast.

Speaker 33 But because

Speaker 1 of the multiplier effect, it's the restaurants, it's the bars, it's the taxi drivers, it's cyclos, it's all of those other things that

Speaker 1 actually suffer when you remove culture from a place apart from you know that's why as you say that's why tourists go to berlin yeah absolutely i feel like you have that in america too of like that apology of like hey yeah i'm an actor huh i'm i'm i'm you know cool

Speaker 77 because people think it's like cool to shy away from there there's a certain sect of people i think that don't stand in like pride for being an artist.

Speaker 6 Maybe it's a self-consciousness.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, there's a sense that somehow if you are in a creative profession, there's an indulgence.

Speaker 94 It's elite.

Speaker 1 And you go, no, it's like you're a member of a circus family.

Speaker 1 It's not, it's true. You do it for an audience.
And that's where Soderberg's so great is he kept saying with Black Bag. He's like, we're making a movie.
Yeah. We're not making a film.

Speaker 1 I want people to go see this in the cinema and eat their pop gas and have fun and it's witty and stylish.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know, and then, and, you know, you don't have to, not every piece of cinema has to have the same function or reach the same audience.

Speaker 1 They're multifarious audiences, but it's foreign audiences. I'm not doing it for myself.

Speaker 90 Right.

Speaker 41 You know, just to speak, because you mentioned that we talk about culture.

Speaker 33 We're going to ask you that question.

Speaker 69 That's a thing.

Speaker 167 It's a little bit of a, you know.

Speaker 104 unifier on this podcast alongside this question, which is what was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

Speaker 102 Talking about like how you, Kate Blanchette, became Kate Blenchett, if you could think about I'm constantly becoming.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 145 something you've yesterday

Speaker 127 constantly.

Speaker 49 I don't know, like I'm so eclectic.

Speaker 1 And you know, I read Eden Blight and books. I spend all the time on my bicycle thinking I was Nancy Drew or Trixie Belden.

Speaker 1 You're looking at me blankly because you're away.

Speaker 1 Trixie Belden was a girl detective. Yeah, as was Nancy Drew.

Speaker 1 But I think there was a kind of an intersection for me of the royal wedding, Princess Diana and Charles, which was in 1980. At the moment, my grandmother was having a double bypass surgery.
Wow.

Speaker 1 So death was meeting sort of life and pageantry. At the same time, the Moscow Olympics was on.
And I was obsessed.

Speaker 1 I did calisthenics, you know, like I'm, I'm quite, I'm not very strong, but I'm bending. Like, I can put my legs behind my heads.
I have no skills, but I can do that and do this.

Speaker 156 Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 154 I got that.

Speaker 1 And I got really obsessed with, I don't know what this is culture, but I got very obsessed with ribbon dancing.

Speaker 99 Oh, that's

Speaker 99 a dancing.

Speaker 1 And then the dancing they do with the ball.

Speaker 62 Wow.

Speaker 1 So maybe it was that.

Speaker 105 So we file this under like, you know, the bending of it all, like rhythmic gymnastics.

Speaker 1 Rhythmic gymnastics.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that that was my

Speaker 1 high culture expression. And then later on, you saw Picasso painting with light.

Speaker 1 And so that reminded me of my ribbon dancing obsession.

Speaker 34 You know?

Speaker 1 So yeah, maybe it was ribbon dancing.

Speaker 74 I'm thinking of your performance in the curious case of Benjamin Butt.

Speaker 163 It wasn't ribbon dancing.

Speaker 95 I know, but a dancer.

Speaker 1 I've never forgiven Fincher. He's so mean.

Speaker 1 We were doing, there was a dance sequence, which I wrote.

Speaker 144 Did he cut it?

Speaker 261 For ages.

Speaker 80 No, no, no, it's in there.

Speaker 1 But he decided to shoot it at five o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 Having been called, you know, because he shoots forever, having been called at like, you know, nine o'clock the previous morning. It's like, you.

Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I don't know how much is me and how much is my body double.

Speaker 1 But I didn't get to ribbon dance in that.

Speaker 5 No, not ribbon dancing, but I just, my age, there's not a lot of cold.

Speaker 1 They don't ask you to ribbon dance. We're right.

Speaker 136 In your 50s. No, we'll rap you.
That's actually going into.

Speaker 214 Yeah, we'll get your ribbon dancing.

Speaker 87 But the ball.

Speaker 91 Yeah. It's the ball.

Speaker 150 It's so beautiful.

Speaker 107 What does the ball represent?

Speaker 1 You know, the girls in the electric

Speaker 1 who work with the ball and they move it around.

Speaker 69 It's incredible. It's like water.

Speaker 63 It's so magnificent.

Speaker 6 I don't even understand how you write it.

Speaker 1 How do you do that? It's like magic. If you were to do magic tricks, like pull the ace of spades out of a lemon,

Speaker 1 I mean, I would literally pee my pants.

Speaker 140 What's crazy about that is the answers are so simple, but they're done with such

Speaker 58 because like the answer to how the card comes out of the lemon or whatever the hell is that. I don't want to know.

Speaker 112 But what I'm saying is we don't know.

Speaker 74 And like for us, it seems so crazy, but their answers to that are so simple.

Speaker 22 Like the sleight of hand is so second nature.

Speaker 112 Yes.

Speaker 1 I know, but still, where do you put a lemon up? I mean,

Speaker 1 that's, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 63 Which hole?

Speaker 152 Which roll did that lemon get out of?

Speaker 49 Don't touch the lemon.

Speaker 69 Don't touch the lemon.

Speaker 34 But would you agree that, like, have you ever applied this to your own sort of craft where you're like, I don't want to tell you too much about how I do that?

Speaker 1 I never want to, I never want to talk about it because I don't know how I do it. Do you not know how it is? I don't have a process.
Really?

Speaker 73 No.

Speaker 1 Like, people say, oh, you know, I do Meisner or Lee Strasner or I do, I know, Udah Hagen is my, whoever it is. I read it all.
I'm a bow bird.

Speaker 1 If someone has done something great, I will steal it and use it. Got it.
Because you know, it's always going to be reinterpreted through your lens.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I, yeah, I don't know. I, I, every night before I, you know, I start a new job, it's always the first day of school.
I'm always terrified.

Speaker 1 And I say to my husband, who's so bored with me asking the same questions over and over and over, I said, what do I do? What's my process? Really?

Speaker 165 And he went, just show up.

Speaker 1 And so you have to go into a room and go, I do not know how to do this. You humble yourself to the task.

Speaker 1 And the material and the other actors and the directors and the circumstances reveal what research you need to do. If you need to do any, sometimes you don't need to.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you just have to be present.

Speaker 74 I feel like that's so comforting as an actor to hear even you say that because there's like a freedom.

Speaker 144 Terror.

Speaker 161 There's a freedom you can have to give yourself when you realize this thing I have about my anxieties about being quote unquote good enough right for it.

Speaker 155 I was going to ask you how you are about moving on because it sounds like every actor has a different relationship to that.

Speaker 137 But to hear you speak to not insecurity, but like any apprehension or, you know, nerves about doing something, I think

Speaker 258 for even you to say that, you know, it's

Speaker 163 worse, I think.

Speaker 1 It gets worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because then there's a sense that maybe people have preconceptions or expectations if you have some kind of a track record. And I think it's you have to risk, I'm sure you both feel this too.

Speaker 1 You have to, and particularly with stand-up, it's like you have to risk falling flat on your face. And so if you're not, if you're not on that knife edge, you're not going to keep growing.

Speaker 1 And so it is confronting, but you have to get yourself in the zone where you go, fuck it.

Speaker 68 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Well, my thing with a lot of comedians, and I'm going to say excuse male, but like a lot of male comedians seem to have this allergy to like anything that is theatrical about comedy. Yes.

Speaker 34 And they have to understand that stand-up is just theater.

Speaker 34 The schema of it, of like one person being on stage, talking to a crowd of people, doesn't matter how big the crowd is or small, it is, it's theater.

Speaker 34 So, and they are like performing the fact that these thoughts are coming to them off the cuff when they've been refining this routine for a long time over many experimental contexts.

Speaker 34 But it's like, let's just embrace that this is all kind of artificial. And I don't know what my point is.
I'm just saying like, there's.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And there's a structure to it.

Speaker 1 It's like if you're telling a story and you forget the pivot point in the story,

Speaker 1 it's not going to work.

Speaker 1 But I've always found it really such an education to go and watch stand-up at the beginning when they're building the material because in the end, I think the process is the most exciting thing.

Speaker 1 And sometimes when you get to the end point, the hard thing is to keep it fresh.

Speaker 146 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 63 But, you know.

Speaker 76 And of course, then there's the thing of, you know, I've now done, I find this with a lot of stand-ups.

Speaker 83 It's like you see people start to get insecure about having done things for several years.

Speaker 94 Right.

Speaker 58 It's like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 102 It's, because then it's, it's less even about how do I keep this fresh?

Speaker 76 And you're like, did I get too comfortable with, am I too good at keeping it fresh?

Speaker 77 Am I not moving on and pushing myself to do something else?

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I got great advice from a Hungarian director who directed us as a company in a production of Uncle Banya. And we'd had previews and they were all great.
And it was a really lovely company.

Speaker 1 And he came in and through, you know, we rehearsed through an interpreter. And so he said through his interpreter, he said, all of those amazing things that you did last night, they were wonderful.

Speaker 1 Tonight, opening night, don't do any of them. Love it.
And it was such great advice, Gunigo, okay.

Speaker 1 This is in, so I think they, it's because they come from a culture where things sit in rep. Right.

Speaker 1 And so he's interested in the long-term health of the show, not getting good reviews, you know, because often the good reviews are actually harder to deal with because certainly if you read them, you go, oh, that's a good bit and then it dies.

Speaker 1 Right. You know, so you can't, you can't think about the good or bad bit.
You just have to think it's all a process.

Speaker 90 Right.

Speaker 34 Or you just can't stay with it in any case because in comedy they say like your act becomes your enemy.

Speaker 1 It's like what you're talking about where like when you say your act you mean you shtick or

Speaker 34 like you've given it's like it's I kind of feel that way now with like SNL. I'm like, oh, I'm playing another inanimate object.

Speaker 71 And sometimes, and I just want to say, because

Speaker 34 sometimes it's not always up to the cast members. Of course, you're being handed the material like, okay, I guess you need me to play, you know, the spy balloon that got shot down.
Okay, like, fine.

Speaker 34 You know, it's, and then it becomes this thing that you're trying to pull away. Anyway, this is not, this is microcosmically compared to like anything that.

Speaker 1 No, because I mean, this is the thing is you don't want to be thinking about yourself. You want to be thinking about the energy that it's going out in your audience.

Speaker 1 And I think when you start to feel uncomfortable about that or habitual about that, then you become self-conscious and the thing is going to die anyway.

Speaker 34 Which is why it's refreshing and also sort of speaks to your skill, besides putting your legs behind your head, is that like you have this, you have this, you amalgamate all these things in your process to the point where you don't have one, which is perfect.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, look, I do like having a task that I feel is impossible.
So save for something like tar, I thought, I don't know how to read a score. I learned piano as a girl,

Speaker 1 but I have to break this score apart and choose the bits that we're going to play. And I really have to learn how to do this.
And so, in a way, the part was so overwhelming.

Speaker 1 It's not a film about conducting, as I said,

Speaker 1 but it gave me something to do to stave off the anxiety because I had so much to prepare.

Speaker 219 Yeah, lots of homework.

Speaker 1 So, it's just, I think, in the end, process is a way of staving off anxiety, which can make you clam.

Speaker 160 Yeah.

Speaker 172 Like if you're looking for a vintage band tea.

Speaker 4 From the last show your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 177 Which was cute.

Speaker 24 Until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 175 But he was.

Speaker 173 I miss him.

Speaker 178 And there it is, same tea from the same tour still living in your memory, rent-free, forever.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 182 But eBay isn't just forgetting whatever your ex/slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 183 And where else are you going to find your first car?

Speaker 176 A RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 142 eBay.

Speaker 10 That's a good tagline.

Speaker 193 Right?

Speaker 67 Diet Coke Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 199 Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 8 True.

Speaker 28 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 67 Curated dining!

Speaker 205 Next! Okay, good choice.

Speaker 26 And there's so much included value, over $1,000. Right.

Speaker 220 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini.

Speaker 61 Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia, and Caracao.

Speaker 35 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too.

Speaker 19 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, the Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 231 Get it?

Speaker 234 Now let's talk ensemble because Alora does not go it alone.

Speaker 20 Naomi Watts, Nisi Nash-Betts, Tayana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 79 Her professional life crashes into her personal one and uh-oh.

Speaker 12 It's got some unapologetic glam, a work hard, play-harder lifestyle.

Speaker 44 All's fair, now streaming on Hulu, and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 117 This is a little bit of a left turn, but have you seen Oh, Mary on Broadway?

Speaker 262 No, I haven't.

Speaker 186 I have to tell you, in getting to know you a little bit now, I think that like you are going to absolutely

Speaker 116 love it.

Speaker 1 Everyone I know who's seen it has loved it.

Speaker 74 I've now seen it with three different Marys.

Speaker 102 I've seen it with Colosskola.

Speaker 5 I've seen Hannah Solo, the understudy, and Betty Gilpin.

Speaker 22 We saw Betty Gilpin, who is fantastic.

Speaker 1 And it's just different every time. And every time.

Speaker 22 And it's just, it's just really interesting to see something start as that off-Broadway moment and then no Cole was doing it.

Speaker 188 And to now see an actress like Betty doing it.

Speaker 75 It's just, it's, the interpretation is like, it's ever evolving.

Speaker 219 I just think you have such an amazing sense of humor.

Speaker 151 You would absolutely love this. Yeah.

Speaker 66 Oh, no. I don't know how lying.

Speaker 87 I mean, it's such a no, well, yeah, right. You're doing the thing.

Speaker 1 It's so exciting to see you guys.

Speaker 144 And we're so happy.

Speaker 1 It was worth it. We canceled a show at the Barbicane in London.

Speaker 69 But I'm so happy.

Speaker 97 Okay, so it might be time to do I Don't Think So Honey, which is our 60-second segment where we take something in pop culture that really needs to get pummeled into the ground. Yes.

Speaker 97 You know, and I have something.

Speaker 69 Okay.

Speaker 97 It's sort of been popping up for years now, and I would like to

Speaker 1 be rubbing it far.

Speaker 47 Yeah, that was my tell.

Speaker 87 It's your white sneaker. Let's go.

Speaker 34 All right.

Speaker 71 This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honey's time starts now.

Speaker 208 I don't think so, honey, buddy.

Speaker 74 One of my buddies, I got a buddy who,

Speaker 74 let me tell you something, buddy. Like, maybe it's the consonants, the B and the D.

Speaker 116 I don't think

Speaker 109 it's too fricative.

Speaker 74 And I was going to use the word fricative.

Speaker 71 Maybe it's not even fricative.

Speaker 150 A buddy if you're not a buddy?

Speaker 74 Yeah, my thing is just like, it feels like something, and it's been used sexually a couple times with me.

Speaker 152 When my wife's not really popping off, and I don't like it there.

Speaker 112 I don't know what it is.

Speaker 74 It feels like when you use the word buddy, you're not saying friend.

Speaker 105 It feels like something we're like backing off or like trying to get away from.

Speaker 110 It's an act of aggression.

Speaker 74 Yeah, it's an act of of aggression.

Speaker 114 You said the word buddy, or it's just not committing to what it is.

Speaker 93 It's my close friend.

Speaker 74 It's my, you know, I think some people, especially the gay guys I've been having sex with, I'm your lover.

Speaker 69 Okay. And you call me something else, not buddy.

Speaker 114 It's like, it's like when someone calls you dude.

Speaker 69 And that's very fricative as well.

Speaker 34 We think we have D and D.

Speaker 74 Dude and buddy, I'm just not feeling it. I think we should say, like, I think we should just use our words with more intention because buddy, it's existing in a gray area.

Speaker 34 I I don't think so honey and that's one minute you know do you use buddy I do say dude a bit I'm trying to

Speaker 75 is it for for a straight white woman to say dude I think dude is fine I have less of a problem with it it's not my fit I guess what I'm saying is when gay guys

Speaker 1 My same I'm going out with my buddy.

Speaker 73 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like,

Speaker 1 what am I to you?

Speaker 87 Right, yeah.

Speaker 73 Where do I exist?

Speaker 74 Because buddy isn't like, it's existing in an area between acquaintance and I've never thought about it.

Speaker 34 I don't like this is an educational podcast this is an educational podcast friend i'm gonna put a theory out there the english language is is sort of limited in in the kind of um words we have for friend

Speaker 34 buddy i don't like when someone's like

Speaker 34 five times out of ten i'm gonna say

Speaker 34 half the time half the time when someone says hey friend i go huh Like I shudder a bit.

Speaker 49 Well, hey, no, here's what I'm saying. It's not, it's

Speaker 69 anything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, you, hey, buddy, hey, friend. It's like, hello.

Speaker 146 Hello.

Speaker 1 Exqueze me.

Speaker 89 Yeah. It's just like you know i'd rather you say exquise me exquise me is back now

Speaker 34 as a result of you saying it it's the same kind of weird

Speaker 34 we haven't found the right word yet that feels right on the tongue

Speaker 34 for what for friend for friendship in the same way that we um don't have the good words for marijuana weed pot yeah but i like to be ready delicious

Speaker 260 yeah yeah

Speaker 1 i don't know but what would you say in what context are you calling someone a friend or or a buddy or a mate or a pal?

Speaker 153 I think I got triggered. I like pal.

Speaker 127 Pal.

Speaker 70 Pal.

Speaker 118 I like mate too.

Speaker 155 Mate is fun.

Speaker 69 Mate is just, it's funny.

Speaker 87 Not in Australia.

Speaker 1 This is so abused. Is it really, really? Mate.

Speaker 146 Get out of here.

Speaker 1 Mate. I don't know.
But maybe the way you say it, it's probably not so bad.

Speaker 91 I've got some mates in town.

Speaker 8 I mean, it doesn't sound right.

Speaker 1 But don't you think lover is such a kind of...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's taking your shirt off in an inappropriate way.

Speaker 151 It's too intimate.

Speaker 1 At a dinner. But sweetheart, I think my sweetheart is

Speaker 77 when my friends make fun of me. I say thank you, my love.

Speaker 145 I love restaurants.

Speaker 151 I say my love.

Speaker 85 I call a lot of people my love.

Speaker 5 And our friend Jared is always like, I want to tie when you say it.

Speaker 85 And I'm like, well, that's how I feel about buddy.

Speaker 127 My love.

Speaker 34 But you wouldn't call a waiter buddy.

Speaker 74 Or if you did, so I was in the service industry for 10 years.

Speaker 5 I've done hard yards.

Speaker 74 Getting called buddy, it feels degrading.

Speaker 82 Maybe that's what I'm picking up on.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's a post-trauma.

Speaker 1 You haven't recovered from your waiting time.

Speaker 76 We stumbled upon it. It's that.

Speaker 74 It feels like a little bit of a put-down or like, or it feels like that's maybe what I'm getting at with it, that it feels non-committal.

Speaker 74 It's just, there's something

Speaker 87 hunched down about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 69 It's pat.

Speaker 69 Maybe. It's simply pat.
It's simply pat.

Speaker 88 Okay, so interesting, fascinating.

Speaker 83 Yeah, I just needed, I needed to walk that through.

Speaker 66 And I'm happy we did here today.

Speaker 22 Okay, so this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think it's funny.

Speaker 219 Did you come from here today?

Speaker 71 I did.

Speaker 34 And this has been brewing for several years as well.

Speaker 126 For several years. We're really unearthing a lot now.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.

Speaker 87 This ended up being therapy.

Speaker 151 Yeah.

Speaker 219 So this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.

Speaker 34 I don't think so, honey. Hakuna Matata.

Speaker 98 Oh.

Speaker 34 No worries for the rest of your days.

Speaker 51 Privileged. I'm worried.

Speaker 34 It's not even a privileged thing. It's a detachment from the human condition, which is to experience,

Speaker 98 experience stake.

Speaker 69 experience

Speaker 34 some kind of investment in the future.

Speaker 34 And how can, and how can you be invested in the future if you're not worried a little bit about losing the thing that you want, about

Speaker 133 letting go of desire?

Speaker 258 30 seconds.

Speaker 34 Too Buddhist, too aggressively Buddhist, which is not what Buddhism is, which is anathema to Buddhism in the first place. You can't be an aggressive Buddhist.

Speaker 34 To say no worries for the rest of your days, to be that absolute about not worrying,

Speaker 111 something's off. 15 seconds.

Speaker 34 You're numbing yourself too much to circumstance,

Speaker 34 to what life throws at you. You're going to be worried because guess what?

Speaker 86 Everyone in this room, I'm looking at you,

Speaker 34 Matt behind the camera, we're all worried.

Speaker 87 You all have something to worry about.

Speaker 155 You all have something to worry about.

Speaker 51 And that's one minute.

Speaker 34 And they're pretending not to be, but they're worried.

Speaker 98 Also, not for nothing, they were a warthog and a groundhog.

Speaker 87 What were the warthog?

Speaker 69 A meerkat.

Speaker 94 A meerkat, thank you.

Speaker 126 In Africa, you have worries. You've got worries.

Speaker 122 There are predators all around you.

Speaker 112 Be worried.

Speaker 88 Stay vigilant in these streets.

Speaker 112 And by these streets, I do mean the prairie land.

Speaker 85 The prairie land.

Speaker 69 The med room. Yes, Miss Red Room.

Speaker 69 Stay Stay on your target.

Speaker 1 Be very afraid.

Speaker 63 Hakuna Matata, I think not.

Speaker 123 It's really culture number 14.

Speaker 33 Hakuna Matata, I think not.

Speaker 151 I love that, Bowen. Thank you.

Speaker 34 It's from the heart.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 34 We were told that you came prepared as well.

Speaker 153 I meant to have one.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be as eloquent as you are.

Speaker 87 That's okay.

Speaker 1 But I have something. I have a lot of things that really,

Speaker 1 you know, what's the first bit I have to say?

Speaker 33 I don't think so honey.

Speaker 84 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 34 And we're going to put the timer up, but I think you should feel unbounded by this.

Speaker 146 Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, honey. Timing.
I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 62 Kuda Matata in terms of this.

Speaker 89 In terms of this.

Speaker 1 No, my blood pressure's just got it.

Speaker 163 Okay.

Speaker 34 We're just going to put it up just for ceremony. Okay.
This is Kate Blanchette's. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 71 Her time starts now.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, honey, leaving the toilet seat up.

Speaker 66 I am not talking about the lid.

Speaker 1 I am talking about the thing that you sit on. Of course.
In a domestic setting, men may think, or people with penises, may think that their aim is good,

Speaker 1 but it is all over the seat, and I have to put that thing down because in the end, everyone sits down more than they stand up. 100%.

Speaker 1 And when you are at, you know, somebody else's house and you, and it's not only the pee that goes onto the seat, it's little bits of hair.

Speaker 69 And you think I want to touch that?

Speaker 1 You think I want to smell that? And so I have to put it down. And then I put the seat down and then the whole thing comes up and it starts all over again.

Speaker 1 And if you are in a public bathroom, it's like I am going to invest in a sheewee because do you know what a shee-wee is?

Speaker 63 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 It's a cup with a little tube on it that women use for going for a bush wee when they're camping.

Speaker 1 Oh, and I don't want to have to spend money just because people who need to put the, should be putting the seat down can't peeve straight.

Speaker 69 Right.

Speaker 1 And yes, so it's my whole thing is the toilet seat thing. And I have, I live in a household with three boys and my husband.
And each of them say, I always put it down, which is almost more in rate.

Speaker 228 They're lies,

Speaker 1 lies, lies.

Speaker 94 That's the plot of Black Bad.

Speaker 34 It is one minute. There's no traitor.
There's a traitor in your midst.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 258 But this is.

Speaker 1 Are you going to defend yourself? Don't know.

Speaker 145 I'm not defending myself.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear your defense because it is not true.

Speaker 71 I'm not defending myself.

Speaker 98 I'm actually. But

Speaker 34 I'm sort of self-owning when I say

Speaker 164 it's always so jarring.

Speaker 34 This is the thing about living alone.

Speaker 34 I'm going, well, that's my hair. I got to get mad at myself.
Yeah. But do you, do you find yourself getting mad at yourself if you go, well, I don't shed.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 111 But you can't, you can't control that, can you?

Speaker 69 Oh, yeah. No, yeah, years of work.

Speaker 1 I am Taurus, Taurus, Taurus.

Speaker 124 I told you that before he came in.

Speaker 1 I'm very controlling.

Speaker 69 Hair, stay in there.

Speaker 148 I can't stand going to someone else's bathroom and when they're okay with hair being all over the toilet.

Speaker 38 Like,

Speaker 117 I am essentially like a top-level cleaner. Whenever I have anyone coming over, I make sure I put muscle into it.

Speaker 93 I know, but do you put the lid down?

Speaker 123 Always, yes.

Speaker 88 The lid.

Speaker 258 Yes.

Speaker 163 I want photographic evidence. That's what my husband said.

Speaker 1 And he said, come on, just leave me alone. It's

Speaker 1 six in the morning. I do put it down.
And I go to the toilet statement. It's like,

Speaker 1 do I take a, we've been married 27 years and we are still married because I've just had to let it go.

Speaker 1 And I tried to teach my boys, but I realized they're even imprinted on my husband.

Speaker 49 So I failed as a parent.

Speaker 69 No, no.

Speaker 49 I have, I have, have, I have.

Speaker 69 No, no.

Speaker 1 I've been exposing my sons in a way that I probably shouldn't be.

Speaker 63 We don't know which of the sons.

Speaker 69 Yeah. All of them.

Speaker 1 Well, you've now specified.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 123 So there we go.

Speaker 127 All of them.

Speaker 34 You can ask us for photographic evidence. You, as a mother, this is your success as a mother is that you're not asking photographic evidence of them.

Speaker 87 You would never make photographs. It's true.

Speaker 1 I don't shame them. Right.
No. But they do get the passive-aggressive

Speaker 1 every time I go to the bathroom.

Speaker 75 My thing is and i'll reveal this and i'm i bet you'll agree the older i get i'm sitting down to be more anyway

Speaker 1 i do have male friends who sit down out of deference to their friends of all sexual persuasions and orientations i'm going to sit down because i'm not going to miss if i sit down exactly the risk becomes exponentially less when you are when when quite frankly your dick is already in the bowl exactly yeah and if you don't have a dick you know your holes in the bowl your hole holes in the bowl honestly it's a win-win all around.

Speaker 74 This is huge. And with that.

Speaker 100 You can cut that out.

Speaker 94 My mother's going to listen.

Speaker 69 I'm sorry, mom.

Speaker 119 Sorry, mom.

Speaker 34 No, and this is good for us for Bergheim because there's the piss goblin there.

Speaker 87 There's probably a hole in the bowl room.

Speaker 146 There's a hole in the bowl room.

Speaker 87 You know, we're all going to be sitting.

Speaker 34 I'm sitting on the piss goblin.

Speaker 143 Okay.

Speaker 143 And I won't.

Speaker 105 You'll not get photographic evidence of that.

Speaker 16 No.

Speaker 1 Because I'll get the descriptor.

Speaker 120 Absolutely. We'll fill you in.

Speaker 1 Have fun. Thank you.

Speaker 219 We're going to have the best time, just like we did today.

Speaker 144 This was so amazing to have you.

Speaker 116 It's such an honor.

Speaker 76 It's so great to meet you, and you really are just one of the best.

Speaker 121 And this has just been so amazing.

Speaker 69 One of the best.

Speaker 1 Well, would you like calling me your friend?

Speaker 74 Would you, Al, your buddy?

Speaker 43 Hey, buddy.

Speaker 136 Listen, buddy. You're the best.
Listen, Benny, you're one of the best.

Speaker 1 No, you're meant to say to every guest, you're the best.

Speaker 98 You are the greatest.

Speaker 105 They leave feeling good about themselves.

Speaker 87 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 And the next one comes in.

Speaker 80 You are the best.

Speaker 105 You are the best.

Speaker 69 You too.

Speaker 127 Undisputed.

Speaker 78 You're the undisputed best.

Speaker 105 We named an award after you forget that.

Speaker 69 I get the K Punched Award for Good Acting.

Speaker 33 No. It was named after

Speaker 69 Chuffed.

Speaker 1 Listen. And confused.

Speaker 105 I can understand.

Speaker 136 We sent those out.

Speaker 69 We're like, are they going to have any reference for this?

Speaker 63 And then the fact that you went out and did it, we were like, thank you for the commitment.

Speaker 86 Bless you.

Speaker 34 Well, we end every episode with the song.

Speaker 116 We sure do.

Speaker 58 I wish we only had, we're in orchestra right now.

Speaker 21 We can play and be conducted.

Speaker 96 Let's see.

Speaker 127 Boy, you got my heartbeat around your way.

Speaker 145 beating like a drum that is coming your way.

Speaker 139 Oh, I feel like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, back.

Speaker 117 You got that harmony there, and it didn't work.

Speaker 34 It's okay, we'll get it next time. Thanks.

Speaker 152 Bye.

Speaker 34 Lost Culture East is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Radio Podcasts.

Speaker 153 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 164 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier.

Speaker 34 Produced by Becca Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Borde.

Speaker 101 And our music is by Henry Komirsky.

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Speaker 71 How'd they do it?

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Speaker 85 There's pressure systems moving in Bo in the form of cuffing season.

Speaker 4 Potential heavy clouds of nostalgia around the necks, windstorms from a current situation ship, and light drivels of you up, techs, are incoming.

Speaker 210 It's the chill in the air that brings about this behavior.

Speaker 52 In the midst of cuffing season, there's one place where the microclimate is clear communication, radical honesty, and open-mindedness, and that's Fields.

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Speaker 52 The Field community is made up of so many different kinds of people ranging in experience, interests, and desires.

Speaker 28 Here you can have the space to change, to be honest, and to always be curious.

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Speaker 124 There's no fast swipe culture.

Speaker 224 Sometimes attraction takes time.

Speaker 157 Here, you don't have to make a split decision in order to see another person.

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More episodes from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Introducing: CrimeLess

"Elevated Messy" (w/ Rachel Sennott)

"The Protagonist" (w/ Heather Gay)

“Drinkin' The Soda” (w/ Brittany Snow)

"All Up In The Macabre" (w/ Sarah Paulson)