Side Stories: Movie Stories II

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Speaker 1 There's no place to escape to. This is the last podcast.
On the left,

Speaker 1 side stories?

Speaker 4 That's when the cannibalism started.

Speaker 1 Side stories. Yes.

Speaker 1 We don't normally do this directly after good pud.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like how yucky I feel.

Speaker 1 I never thought that we would. Well, just because I consumed.

Speaker 1 How was the deviled egg pudding?

Speaker 4 I wanted to die a very quick death.

Speaker 1 You know what was really nice about it, honestly? I feel like I want it. You would like it.
I could have gained some would like it. We threw it out, just something to the smell.

Speaker 4 But it was the smell was pretty horrific.

Speaker 1 But it was just like, honestly, a more egg-forward mayonnaise. Okay.

Speaker 4 Which that sounds like a nightmare. I think that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 But then we tried people. We tried baking so.
Mayonnaise is made out of eggs.

Speaker 4 But see, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 And you'd think, like, oh, it's just going to be like you're eating a bunch of mayonnaise, which don't get me wrong, we all love to do, but it is, but like, add a bunch of the taste of hard-boiled eggs to it.

Speaker 1 It was awesome. Yeah.
So she, yeah, you're, you're talking like you like deviled eggs. This is what I love.

Speaker 1 It was essentially, you could take that pudding and you could put it in the shell of a hard-boiled egg, and it would taste just like a deviled egg.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and that makes me want to cry to death.

Speaker 1 Deviled eggs could have been an alternate title for Rosemary's Baby. Hey,

Speaker 1 intellectual film-based joke. Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Is that all we're doing here today? Because I am not prepared.

Speaker 1 Today is Intellectuals. Welcome to Side Stories.
I'm your host, Henry Zaprowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.
I'm Smart.

Speaker 4 Oh, you know when he's dog barking.

Speaker 1 He's smart.

Speaker 1 I'm I'm a smart dog. I'm a smart dog.

Speaker 1 He's got that dog in him.

Speaker 1 He's got that down. I'm scared of him.
And we have our film correspondent, the tiny-headed, big-mouthed Jackie Zabrowski.

Speaker 4 I've got a little head. I've got a big mouth.

Speaker 1 Big head, big mouth.

Speaker 4 You know here's the thing. Henry's been telling me, and I'm not going to use the phrase gaslighting, but Henry has been telling me I have a small head my entire life.

Speaker 4 And then I went to get my head measured.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 And I actually have a medium-sized head.

Speaker 1 Nice. I got a big one.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you do have a big head.

Speaker 1 It's not a big head. No, it could.
It's not like too big. No, not you.
I'm talking about her. Oh, yeah.
Well, it's yeah, it's a small head.

Speaker 4 It's not a small head. It's a normal-sized head.
You got a small head. You do have a little head.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm not as famous as I should be. Yes, because everyone knows that famous people have gigantic heads.
That is actually

Speaker 1 the truth. Humphrey Bogart probably died younger than he should have because of the size of his head.
DiCaprio's got a huge head. Jack Jack Black's got a huge fucking knife.
He's got a noggin.

Speaker 1 He's got a huge noggin. Brad Pitt's got a huge noggin.

Speaker 1 They're all tiny with Mike Myers. These are all dudes.
Mike Myers has a giant head. Well, yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 He's a good one.

Speaker 1 Well, ladies, what's weird about ladies is they are all literally the size of hot pockets.

Speaker 1 Every famous woman, I saw what's her name, what's her, is she pretty? The

Speaker 1 Kate Blanchette. No, she'll never let me near her.
Kate Winslet. No, not.
She has several orders of kitchen. Kate Beckinson.
Also,

Speaker 1 doesn't want me near her. It's what's her name with the big wide eyes.
See, we're looking at pictures right now. No, who's got the eyes on either side of her head? That's Chris Stone.
No.

Speaker 4 Anya Taylor Joy. That's the one.

Speaker 1 Wow, yeah. She got a hammerhead, shark head.
She's very small.

Speaker 4 I know, but she's sexy. It's a sexy shark.

Speaker 1 But she's so tiny. Like, it's almost like when you see them in real life, they look like little baby people.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but that's why I like her exaggerated features. I feel like that's what really suggests.

Speaker 1 She does look like an emoji. That's why she's good on camera.
So today's episode. Curiosa was cool.
It was good. It was good.
I liked it.

Speaker 1 It was like a chapter, surprisingly fantastic turn by Chris Helmsworth. I'm very impressed.

Speaker 4 He was very good at it.

Speaker 1 I want to see more. I never thought I would say the words, I want to see more from him.
Seriously, I do not think they knew he would be good.

Speaker 1 But today, what we are doing, because this is the spooky season, is that we have been charged with the seminal holiday task of 31 for 31. That is 31 horror films for the 31 days of October.

Speaker 1 And we wanted to do a bit of a roundup of what we've seen. Yeah, we haven't watched all of them yet.
We have not watched them. It's still in the middle of the month.

Speaker 4 I'm so curious as to how you guys came up with your list because I follow a rubric every year where I have to like fulfill different topics and themes to help me make sure that my list is varied.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do this. This is pretty varied.

Speaker 1 It's pretty varied, but I love what you did, Jackie, because Jackie does have each day is its own specific bracket, like its own specific horror, which also shows how many subgenres are within

Speaker 1 horror films. Sure, just

Speaker 1 list off a bunch.

Speaker 4 Even change some of them year to year. Because like, you know, you can go through the different generations, like 50s or earlier, 60s, 70s, 80s.

Speaker 4 But then there's sci-fi horror, queer horror, zombies, a Wes Craven film, a Friday the 13th film. Any kind of scary kids, whether they are the bad ones or something bad happens to the kids.

Speaker 1 And they gave you the movie Them. Yeah.
Sure. Which is scary kids.
Very scary kids. Do you know that the diner in Nightmare Novish G4 is called The Crave Inn?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry to interrupt, but little factoids.

Speaker 4 I love factoids. It's one of my favorite.
I love, man, bring back pop-up video, but

Speaker 4 everything. That's why I love Joe Bob Bridge.

Speaker 1 Pop-up movie.

Speaker 4 Yes. That's why I love Joe Bob.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's just me at home with my computer open while I watch a movie, which is usually what I do. Yeah, but that's the thing.
But then I get invested and I miss important shit today.

Speaker 1 No, because you're making the producers pick and choose what they're going to tell you about the facts. I was doing that.

Speaker 1 I was watching Frankenhooker today and I started looking at my phone to see who the actors are and I almost missed the giant pile of tits. You just never do that, Franken Hover.

Speaker 4 It was so much fun. Frankenhooker is amazing.
I've never seen it before, but I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 It's my last Hen and Lauder movie, I think. But one of the things that I haven't seen Basket Case 3.

Speaker 1 Have you seen Bad Biology? Yes.

Speaker 1 We watched it for Adam Wurtz's Bachelor Party. Oh, that's right.
Yeah, that was a lot of fun. That's a good Bachelor Party.

Speaker 4 What excites me about the different topics, though, like for instance, vampire. I'm like, I've seen all the vampire movies.

Speaker 4 But then I looked into the newer vampire movies that came out, and there's one I have not heard of it at all, called Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person.

Speaker 4 Apparently, it is a dark comedy about a vampire that is just trying to like ethically be a vampire. But it's a bit really good.

Speaker 1 It's a bit, it's a very indie film. And a lot of times with indie films, the only problem is that they just do stuff like they don't have any horror effects.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have no horror effects. But I'm okay with that, though.

Speaker 4 I think it's fun sometimes when you're put into that box and you got to figure it out.

Speaker 1 Blair Witch Project shows that you'd need $10,000 to make a fucking movie. Terrifier 2 was only made for $250,000.
Terrifier 1, $35,000.

Speaker 4 Are we going out the gate talking about Terrifier? Because I watched all three Terrifiers this week for the first time.

Speaker 1 Me too. Just hold one second before we go into any of these.
I just want to make sure, up top, because of how many screaming,

Speaker 1 angry emails we get about this topic, is there is going to be some light spoilerage throughout the rest of this episode. It's going to be light.
We're not going to talk about Terrifier 3.

Speaker 1 All right, he goes

Speaker 1 out in 2024.

Speaker 4 This is VHS Beyond. We won't get too into it.

Speaker 1 We will not talk about that. We will not talk about anything that came out this year.
Maybe Joker 2. We can't do it.
I think it's because we hate them.

Speaker 4 And we can talk about the New Salem's lot, too.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen the New Salem's lot. I've found most recently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. I haven't seen it yet.
I have not seen it because it's on my list. It's not on my list.
On our list, please. It was on my list, though.
All right.

Speaker 1 So, we are going to talk about what we've all seen. Now, maybe we can.
I think Terrifier is a good thing to start with because Terrifier 1, to me, is an example of...

Speaker 1 a great return to form of old school horror iconography. Now, one thing about Terrifier 1 is that it's definitely not complete and it is definitely uneven.

Speaker 1 But the thing that stands out for me with Terrifier 1 is obviously Art the Clown. What do you mean it's not complete?

Speaker 4 Yeah, why don't you think it's complete?

Speaker 1 Well, just because it feels thin compared to what Terrifier 2 was. Well, there's no plot.

Speaker 4 But I like that there's no plot. I like that.

Speaker 1 It's just because

Speaker 4 there's no lore about Art the Clown.

Speaker 1 Oh, sure. But that's why I'm saying it's amazing as a first chapter.
Yes. I think that the fact that they went on to, I think that if

Speaker 1 if it came out, Terrifier 1 came out and there was no sequel, we would eventually forget about that film. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think that Terrifier 2, with the addition of the lore, the blowing out of the story,

Speaker 1 a little bit more money, Terrifier 2, it's also the

Speaker 1 performer. The guy who plays Art is arguably the best physical actor in horror right now outside of what, the super skinny guy.
Super skinny guy. Doug Jones.
Doug Jones.

Speaker 4 He is, David Howard Thornton is unbelievable. He is, I really didn't think I was going to like Terrifier at all terrifier 2 blew my mind again.

Speaker 4 I can't believe how much I enjoyed the first and the second one because I thought beforehand I thought this was all torture porn and again it is torture porn

Speaker 4 I think it's schlocky big violence and I think that's very different than torture porn.

Speaker 1 You know what Jackie? I think that you're right because hostile like when I don't like hostile hostel sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't like hostile because I look like the bad guy from hostel 2, and people yell at me in the street. You do look like him, and I'm worried.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 It's what are you gonna do? You know what I mean? People yell at you.

Speaker 1 Where is the girl? What are you talking about? Where is the girl? Let me see the girl. When you find me, I pay money for girl.

Speaker 1 Every single time we go anywhere, and there's a picture of a warthog, if there's a picture of a fat, bald man with a mustache, we are it. So it doesn't matter to me.
Yeah, and they go,

Speaker 4 Why do you think it's me?

Speaker 1 It's all the same. It's all the same to us.
But Terrifier, like, it really, like,

Speaker 1 I feel that we miss the horror icon.

Speaker 1 And with Terrifier 2, that's why I was like, I realized watching it this time, because we went and watched a double feature last night, which is one of the first times I've seen one of those in a long time.

Speaker 4 I had so much fun doing this with you guys.

Speaker 1 It was fun. It was a blast.
We were watching Terrifier to one o'clock in the goddamn morning.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because we watched Terrifier 2 and Terrifier 3 back to back, but all of us the night before separately had watched the original Terrifier 2.

Speaker 1 Just to make sure we were locked in. But it shows it how, like, I love that he set a bunch of Easter eggs in Terrifier One that then developed in Terrifier One.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if he wrote that in Terrifier One or just figured he'd expand on it, which seemed like to me. Yes.
You know what? I want to say something about Terrifier One. All right.

Speaker 1 I have a theory because I feel low-budget filmmaking. We've been a part of it plenty of times.
Oh, certainly. All right.

Speaker 1 So, you know, the old, you know, the crazy lady in the basement of the, of the house in Terrifier One? Yes. With the Emily the doll? Yes.

Speaker 1 I believe that that baby doll was originally written as a baby and they couldn't afford it. And then they couldn't get away over there.

Speaker 1 And they're like, fuck it. Make sure she's crazy.
She's crazy. She's got a doll.
Oh, that dude. I love that.

Speaker 4 Also, she was a beautiful woman for how insane and houseless she was supposed to be. I was just like, man, she seems like she's doing okay.

Speaker 1 She was a good actor. But he openly says, Damian Leone, like, as I was reading about his process, was that it seemed like his whole thing was about capturing inspiring moments at the time.

Speaker 1 So he said like stuff with Art the Clown. Well, there's one spoiler.
I think it's spoiler. He was talking about Terrifier 3.
Terrifier 1, we could spoil.

Speaker 1 We can't, but there was one example he used of talking with

Speaker 1 Art and being like, okay, let's do XYZ. They were doing a together, like an experimentation of what we do with this character and how we react.
And you would let him run wild and do stuff.

Speaker 1 And then kind of like, they would find and source the sequences as they went because like so fun one of the best parts about the movie i think the reason why it transcends from torture porn into something else is was the the stripe of humor that runs throughout the entire thing that breaks attentionly funny yes because you also third movie's the funniest i would say but then i would say that the last 20 minutes of the third one is the most brutal of the entire series very

Speaker 1 the last 20 minutes of the entire thing

Speaker 1 at that point a lot maybe Maybe it was just because I was five hours in and I was desensitized by that point. You know, I didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 But it's really, it gets pretty bleak at the end of Terrifier 3, but it's awesome because it does end on a cliffhanger, I will say that, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 Now, have you guys seen All Hollows Eve, which is apparently where Art the Clown originally shows

Speaker 1 a different dude? He's a different guy,

Speaker 1 a different actor.

Speaker 1 And he says, matter of fact, the original, the makeup he wore at Terrifier 2 was based on the original guy, which is why it fit him weirdly for a long time and now he got it all redone for three so it's more malleable the original art the clown in all hollows leave honestly was kind of

Speaker 1 i i was not i'm not a huge fan of all hollows eve it's a bit off

Speaker 1 put it on the list next year because it's definitely a halloween movie very much so but i think it's i i just think it's uh is it as brutal

Speaker 1 No, because it's the anthology series, so it's got stuff in it.

Speaker 4 I just find that they're all of an anthology series.

Speaker 1 It's very, very uh like it's very empty yeah so it started with the ninth circle which was the a short film with art the clown so the makeup was a thing that's been traveling with Damian Leon throughout all of these projects but it didn't have like I'm assuming the same like mime work like

Speaker 1 they elevated it all the way up they probably just got a better actor with

Speaker 1 you also notice in Terrifier one

Speaker 1 the comedy is way subtler. Well, there's hardly any comedy.
Anything that could be comedy in Terrifier 1 is just upsetting. Because he only does a couple of laugh stingers.

Speaker 1 He kind of does a couple a little bit, but largely he is a gruesome, frightening clown. But again, why Terrifier 2? It's climbing up the ranks of one of my favorite sequels.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's very rare when you find that the direct sequel is better than the first one. Yeah.
Where it was like this is the first time.

Speaker 4 Because I would say it's better, but I really also liked it a lot.

Speaker 1 See, I think it's way better. I think it's way better.
I think it's better across the board.

Speaker 4 I think I was more just shocked that I liked the first Terrifier so much that you're like, you know, when you go into something thinking you're not going to like it and then you're like when you're so happily surprised that I was like, oh my God, I would definitely now I get, I feel like in the past, I didn't understand as someone that goes to a lot of horror cons with my husband who makes horror artwork, I feel like there's so many people that have like tattoos.

Speaker 4 Yeah, check out Krudink. There's so many people that have like tattoos of Art the Clown and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 And I never really got that because it's like you don't see as much with like, let's say a jigsaw or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think I want him on a t-shirt. I don't think I want to.
I want Freddie on a t-shirt. I want Michael Myers on a t-shirt.
Jason, maybe. But Art the Clown.
It's just too upsetting, I think.

Speaker 1 I will say is that

Speaker 1 I was hesitating. This is so funny.
As a t-shirt hoarder and a person that also views my t-shirts as like my expressions of my stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is the first time, and I was sitting there at the middle of Terrifier 3.
I was like, I think it's time I'm going to get an Art the Clown shirt. Wow.

Speaker 1 She's entering them out like the shirt. They weren't selling them at the theater.
I would have bought one if they were selling it. But I was watching.

Speaker 1 I was like, this is, he has legitimately become a new favorite character of mine because of the, that's why it was like, Terrifier 2 feels like Elm Street 3 and Terrifier 3 feels like Elm Street 4.

Speaker 1 It's like very similar vibes and they're very similar. I love the soundtrack.
I love the entire atmosphere. And there's just something about Art the Clown just having a good time.

Speaker 1 And that's all it's about.

Speaker 1 He's just having a good time. All of the stuff that he does is simply for his own enjoyment.
You know, what's interesting is every scene is brutal, right?

Speaker 1 Every scene's brutal, but like, it's like a different style of horror every time. Because one time it's like a horror comedy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then it just goes to like fucking straight up like sorority murder. Yeah.
And then it goes to like, you know, and it just like

Speaker 4 transcends genres inside of the horror genre, which is really fun.

Speaker 1 It adds layers. It feels like he's creating you.
It's also one of the first times, honestly, that I've seen a final girl that I

Speaker 1 felt that emotional connection to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she was fantastic. Because also, Kate Corcoran was in Terrifier 1.
So

Speaker 1 after interviewing her and hanging out with her, what was her name?

Speaker 4 Lauren Levera. Lauren Levera.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable job. But Kate Corcoran, we interviewed her during the pool party, the LPM pool party.
I interviewed her. She was very lovely, and I didn't enjoy watching her get a kick.

Speaker 4 I did not know how she died, and I was very surprised.

Speaker 1 I will say I like watching my friends get murdered on camera. I think it's fun.
I think it's fun as hell because everybody that's ever been in those movies, they love getting killed.

Speaker 4 Although, I don't know, I know someone that was in one of those movies and said, Wow, you were just naked and being hung from a place for quite some time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Natalie did it. She's like, that's one of those things.
It's a part of the pain that you're supposed to feel of the whole thing. It's

Speaker 4 difficult to, but it's difficult to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 It's very, very physically difficult.

Speaker 4 Yes, it's difficult to be very, very good at. And Lauren Levera is really killing this series.

Speaker 4 But I was sad because honestly, what I texted you guys this morning, I genuinely had a bad dream last night with the little girl clown that is in Terrifier 2.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the best one.

Speaker 4 The little girl clown creeped me the fuck out, and I genuinely had a nightmare about it last night.

Speaker 1 That little girl is so good. She's so good.

Speaker 4 She's so good in it. Terrifier 2 is really good.
And I did have fun with Terrifier 3, and I like that it's... I always have a soft spot for a Christmas horror movie.

Speaker 1 Oh, me too. If I re-watch any of them, it'll be Terrifier 3.
Yes. Really? Yeah, yeah.
Versus Terrifier 2.

Speaker 1 I think Terror Fire 2 is like my favorite of them. It is just like...

Speaker 1 If I could be honest, I really enjoyed it. It's very good.
It's a good horror movie. The story is actually good.
It's good. It's just hard to watch

Speaker 1 bodies get ripped apart like that. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. It is just like they don't shy away from showing you anything.
That's what I like.

Speaker 1 And it's just like, okay, we're just going to take the jaw off the face.

Speaker 1 But I also like it.

Speaker 1 And yet the reason why

Speaker 1 Eddie did such a good job. We were sitting in the last row.

Speaker 1 It was a couple of times I just hear him go like, ah,

Speaker 1 ah. And I was like, Eddie, you're so strong.

Speaker 1 You're doing so good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, like, I've watched horror movies my entire life. You know, it's like

Speaker 1 doing me. This is just, it's just so brutal.

Speaker 4 No, but again, I like that he's not above just pulling out a gun. I think that's also how

Speaker 1 that flipped me out.

Speaker 4 I was so

Speaker 1 seen a slasher fucking just all of a sudden pop up.

Speaker 1 That's the best part. But I was like, that's what he's an equal opportunity killer.
He's a, again, he is a chaos agent. He reminds me of Freddy Krueger.
And he reminds me of that same thing.

Speaker 4 Thank you for not brutally showing children being murdered as someone that that does actually kind of make me nauseous. I know.

Speaker 1 Not holding back on killing children.

Speaker 4 Killing children being which I think is awesome.

Speaker 1 It's a happy medium.

Speaker 4 It's a happy medium.

Speaker 1 I love watching children get killed on film. And I think that it's fun when you show that Art the Clown does not give a fuck.
And it's like,

Speaker 1 because what I also love is

Speaker 1 that was my favorite part in Looper when he fucking killed that kid. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Terrifier 3 apparently finally got a chance for him to get some huge, huge budgets. And there's an opening sequence of Terrifier 3 that apparently made everyone say no.
Everybody said no.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, when I watched it, I was like, this is my film. Terrifier 3 and Terrifier 2.

Speaker 1 Terrifier 3, more than Terrifier 2, I felt like there was stuff that they had to leave out in order to release the film.

Speaker 1 In which one? In Terrifier 3. I felt like there was full scenes removed.
No, buddy, fully independently. Really? Made it completely independently.
That man's free. Damien Leone.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm talking about for the MPAA. It's not rated NC-17.
It's rated R, right?

Speaker 1 What is it?

Speaker 1 It might be rated. It might be unrated.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Not rated.
Yeah. Not rated.
It's unrated. It's completely independent.

Speaker 1 That's what's fucking awesome. Is that they got to do whatever they want to do.
They don't do that.

Speaker 4 I honestly didn't. I never thought of that.

Speaker 1 You just don't get certain support.

Speaker 1 He probably can't go get it nominated for things, but then that's whatever. He doesn't fucking give a shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's not looking to get it nominated. But we have to.

Speaker 1 That says where, like, I will defend this to my deathbed, which is what he does right is is the fact that he goes so over over over the top because i do think that there is like natalie and i talk about like one of our main issues with essentially torture porn is when it's realistic and not entertaining when it literally is just torturing someone in a realistic fashion and it's just crying and screaming and there's nothing else going on.

Speaker 1 And this is not realistic.

Speaker 1 When he grabs somebody, because the thing is, you realize it's all supernatural violence. There are things that he's doing that humans can't do.

Speaker 1 Even in Terrifier 1, we talked about how when they do that very famous kill of Kate, where they hang her upside down naked and split her in half, where it's like, that is ludicrous.

Speaker 1 And so on that level, while it's a horrific sight, it's also so, so over the top.

Speaker 1 You're just like, it really,

Speaker 1 it's, it's more, it's art.

Speaker 1 The clown. Oh,

Speaker 1 fuck you. I will say, when he did, like,

Speaker 1 can we talk about that scene for two seconds from Terrifier One? Yeah. Sure, yeah.
Yeah, because that's old enough now.

Speaker 1 You know, like, so she was hung upstairs down and cut vagina first in half with a

Speaker 1 chainsaw. Not a chainsaw.
Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
A handsome. That's right.
I honestly felt like

Speaker 1 it was too quick.

Speaker 4 Well, that would take.

Speaker 1 That would take like 20 minutes. But that's why I explained to you is that that's why it's okay is because legitimately they split the person in half quickly to show you how impossible it would be.

Speaker 1 It is not in any way realistic. You know what I mean? It is not, it could not happen that way.
The way it is happening is like, it's entirely, essentially, comical. Yeah.
No, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're watching. And you can see, we're looking at Terrifier 1.
You can really see how much worse the makeup is, too, right? Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 4 Well, and then you think about

Speaker 4 a scene that I'm going to assume is like an homage to this scene that happens in Terrifier 3.

Speaker 4 You can tell definitely the difference then because of all the closer-up shots of the sawing motions through the body part that it was sawing through.

Speaker 1 Also, Damien Leone does the makeup. He does it all.
Really? He had help in three. He had helped.
Three, he had help. Okay, yeah.
That's so impressive to me.

Speaker 1 Well, that's the reason why I believe two took four years to make. No.
Yeah, it took like 2018. I don't think it came out until.

Speaker 4 And people were complaining because it was too long, but as someone that watched it late at night, I didn't think it was too long.

Speaker 1 I thought it ripped by. Apparently.
It took a little shorter. It took about.

Speaker 4 I think it could have been.

Speaker 1 No movie, movie unless it is there is i've now realized it this is where i'm at i'm at is that if it is not peter jackson's original lord of the rings uncut it does not need to be longer than two hours long that's why the first terrifier is so perfect is because it is 90 minutes yeah but that's why terrifier 3 is is got my vote more because it's not two and a half hours long terrifier 3 is like two hours and two minutes long are we mad that they left halloween and moved to christmas without even explaining themselves no no thanksgiving No.

Speaker 4 Not a moment of Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not. I love, I love,

Speaker 1 love that they went to Christmas. Please.
Yeah. I love that he just went to.

Speaker 1 I just love Christmas horror movies. But why not make it come out in December? Because then this is how they make their money.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because then you're going to watch it now. Oh, and I'm going to rent it in December.
I'm going to rent it in December.

Speaker 1 We're going to watch it for Christmas. Oh, yeah.
Pretty show in the backyard. Oh, yeah.
Do you think there's ever a world where

Speaker 1 they would do a Terrifier maze? Because the terrifier is like its own maze.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it must be.

Speaker 1 But Audi Universal would have to sign off on it. Well, or

Speaker 4 you'd have to have a lot of money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They rent the character. Because in two, like they spend time in a clown-haunted house.
I know. They must have used one.
It looked like they used one that was already existing.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. We just went to a great clown-haunted house over at the Queen Harbor, the big

Speaker 4 scary ship, and they have a really good... good big top haunt that you can walk through and it's a bunch of like you know i feel like your brain is, you know,

Speaker 4 interspersed between am I attracted to these scary clowns?

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Yeah, you're the only person.

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Speaker 1 Well, all right, let's see, so now we've been talking about them for a while. The terrorists are going to be able to do it.
I'm just excited.

Speaker 4 For instance, for body horror this year, I'm going to go go ahead and say it. I've never seen Tetsuo, and I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 Tetsuo, you're going to

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 underwhelmed. Oh, really?

Speaker 4 No, I was excited.

Speaker 1 It's horrifying. It's really gross.
I haven't seen it since.

Speaker 4 It's Tetsuo the Iron Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I haven't seen it since college. It's a really good old-fashioned.
Everybody gets freaked out. It's a guy's turning into metal.
It is.

Speaker 4 It makes me think of Titan.

Speaker 1 Remember, Titan? Oh, Titan was good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But this was,

Speaker 1 I liked it a lot, and I think that it's very, it's an art film. Okay, all right.
I'll give it a tilt. I think it's closer to an art film in there.

Speaker 1 You know what I would say that was, I forgot just how truly powerful it was. It's freaks.
Oh, yeah, it's a good film.

Speaker 1 And when we watch, so we watched it in a backyard up on the projector screen, and on that scale, it's so good.

Speaker 1 And you kind of forget that the point of view of the movie is really about, so those of you who don't know, it is about a strong man and a new, I believe it's like something like somebody does the trapeze, like the treats artist.

Speaker 1 They essentially go to scam out one of the lead little people that are a group of these, these people that work at a sideshow, these Greeks, so-called. 94 years old, by the way.
It's from 1932, yeah.

Speaker 1 And the movie has an undeniable atmosphere of real dread. It was done by Todd Browning, who also did Dracula.
Okay. And it is a, it's a wonderful movie, but one of my favorite things is sort of like

Speaker 1 it's kind of about how they're equal to everybody else. Like we're supposed to be quote-unquote terrified of the freaks, but actually the freaks are an extremely loyal family.

Speaker 1 And what they are, which is why we like, I think it's a precursor.

Speaker 4 First and the Furious.

Speaker 1 Yes. Very similar.
I feel like it's also why we like things like the Firefly family from Rob Zombie films and why we like... They're loyal to each other.
They're loyal to each other.

Speaker 1 They have something with it's like they love each other. There's a heart there.

Speaker 1 And there's something about freaks, about how, especially the guy that plays Hans, Harry Earls, when he's this little, little person.

Speaker 1 And this way, he does that little statement where he's just like, just because I am small does not mean that I am not a man. And he says this very powerful, like, he is this powerful little man.

Speaker 1 And the revenge they get is wonderful. And, but it was also supposed to be far more graphic.
Originally, the strong man was, so if those of you, so spoiler, freak skeleton. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 They turn, well, they turn the lady, they turn the grand dame Cleopatra into a duck woman. They cut her legs and arms off.
It's a one of probably at the time.

Speaker 4 Is it killing her or giving her a better life?

Speaker 1 You give me hashtag duck life.

Speaker 1 And so they,

Speaker 1 at the end of the movie, it leaves on this this picture of the duck woman, which at the time apparently, like, people would run screaming out of the theater. It's great, right? And it's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's even now haunting. It's kind of silly, but it's also haunting.
Yeah. But apparently originally you saw them in their stills.
The movie is 65 minutes long. It was originally 90 minutes long.

Speaker 1 The freaks, this movie was because of the nature of the movie and just straight up there were two realness of having people with actual I mean they barely have sound in movies at this point. Yes.

Speaker 1 This was less than 10 years old. Extremely intense.

Speaker 4 It's on my list of 1950s or earlier because I've never seen it before, so I'm excited to check it out. It's great.
But it does hold up, and you do recommend people.

Speaker 1 Oh, absolutely. Wonderful.
Hell yeah. I've never seen it before, and I loved it.
Hell yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 But the very end, the freaks rise up and they get their revenge. But in the original cut, they had to cut.

Speaker 1 30 minutes because this movie is what created the rating system, United States of America, for film. Like this card, the haze code, all this stuff was made after this movie came up.

Speaker 1 And then Terrifier told them to shove it up and stream it. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 It's kind of amazing that it's almost like from Freaks to Terrifier 3. Like think about that.
It's a long road.

Speaker 1 And it's almost 100 years.

Speaker 1 And Freaks is got, but the original ending was that the, apparently, you watch them

Speaker 1 overpower the strongman, which you do see, but then they cut off his dick and balls. And then he, in the end, and then they show you mutilating.
Apparently, originally, they mutilated her on camera.

Speaker 1 And then originally, the ending was him him singing castrato in a

Speaker 1 uh uh this sort of like weird side circus and then you see her as the duck woman wow

Speaker 1 which i've never seen real castratos

Speaker 1 can you look it up i think it's a real thing yeah castratos are real oh yeah it was real yeah yeah i do believe there is one piece of evidence of castratos

Speaker 1 still singing. Yeah.
I know eunuchs exist, but they're not necessarily castratos. No.

Speaker 1 A eunuch is one. A castrato is a eunuch that can go, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 1 It depends on what happened to you. Yeah.
Here we go. I got this right here, Mark.
I get it right here. A modern castrato, not falsetto.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. No balls.

Speaker 1 Sounds great.

Speaker 1 Sounds great.

Speaker 4 I bet, though, I'm gonna say

Speaker 1 it probably sounded great before. Yeah, I mean, what are you gonna say? The same thing for the lead singer of Boston? You know what I love is these Simons here.

Speaker 1 All his comments are my favorite. I've learned so much just from the video and from reading the comments.
Wow. His voice is so, so beautiful.

Speaker 1 Such a lovely case of turning something many would deem imperfect into an advantage. Wow.
Incredibly admirable. I would say one thing about the 31 for 31,

Speaker 1 that I understand that we had to present our list to the fan base and stuff, but I would have liked to build my list as

Speaker 1 you go. Yeah, because now I feel like I'm stuck to this fucking list when there's so many other movies I'm excited for.

Speaker 1 I have to wait till November.

Speaker 4 Spaces. I always leave a couple of wildcard spaces so that I can just add in whatever as I go along.

Speaker 1 Here's another comment on the Castrado voice. I see why they did such a practice now.
The voice quality is unlike anything else that I've heard before. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 It's just sad the amount of boys who are castrated annually for this. See, I just think it's actually,

Speaker 1 you know. Mangle is from Mangle and Too Cool.

Speaker 4 I just feel like the 31 for 31 is kind of nice because it takes away the pressure of having to choose what you're going to watch. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because then it's just like from this list, you got to take something from this list.

Speaker 1 Thank you for sharing. He has such a beautiful and rich voice.

Speaker 1 You know what? You're lost in Castrado world over here. I will say that I've watched a good amount of movies now, and I've only disliked one of them.
What was that? What was the one you disliked?

Speaker 1 The first Hatchet. See, that's so funny because I was dog shit.
I put Hatchet on there. We actually probably got people connected to it, which is fine.
But I told...

Speaker 1 Eddie, I put Hatchet on there because I thought she liked Hatchet. Well, Hatchet 2 is a whole nother story.
It is. The first Hatchet is just tough to watch.
Adam Green.

Speaker 1 He's a comedy fan, as someone who writes comedy and loves horror comedy, being in a sketch group from Merger House.

Speaker 4 I don't love horror comedy, so I think that's why I haven't checked this out. But you got to be good at the comedy as well as the horror if you're going to do it.

Speaker 1 Hatchet's silly, but I would, when you get to Hatchet 2, tell me what you think. I'm excited for Hatchet 2.

Speaker 1 I heard nothing but good things about Hatchet 2, and I didn't want to watch it until I saw Hatchet 1. Well, I really like you to do, because I just figured you'd really like Hatchet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll figure you'd really like his opening. Try the sequels.
I mean, I don't have a choice. No.

Speaker 4 Now, I will say a horror comedy. I think that we all enjoy is Franken Hooker, though.

Speaker 1 I watched that this morning. Frank and Hooker is a fucking classic.

Speaker 4 I had never seen it before. I pulled it because it was on y'all's list, and I had, because again, I'm not always that big into horror comedy.

Speaker 1 Tom Peacock, if you want to watch it,

Speaker 4 is so much fun. It is an hour and 20 minutes, and it is just tight, it's silly, it's gory.

Speaker 1 I love it. Also, Also, it's like, and it's rude.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's rude to the school.
It's old school. It's very, very old school, but I think that it holds up.
I think that even now in our more enlightened age.

Speaker 4 I mean, if you get upset about the use of the word hooker, I stop the movie for you.

Speaker 1 That's what's not making it. It's a genre flip.
It's whatever. Exploitation.

Speaker 4 You know, like when I was made in 1990, you know, it's not.

Speaker 1 And it's clearly a comedy. It's also an awesome name.
And you should be so lucky to call yourself a Franken hooker. Yeah.
All right, because that's what I think. I think I'd love to be one.
I own it.

Speaker 1 Because also, she's beautiful. Also, I watched Bride of Frankenstein this week.
See, I also was really excited for you to see Bride of Frankenstein because it's a gay allegory.

Speaker 4 I don't see it. That's why you were excited for him?

Speaker 1 I don't think it's a gay allegory. How? It is.

Speaker 1 He wanted the woman. He was being forced to be with her.
He wasn't being forced. He's sexless.
He wanted the woman. He was excited when she shot him down.
Frankenstein. He killed everybody.

Speaker 1 So you're saying that he was forced to be sis and this is the like the his biggest problem also she's not even in the fucking movie that's because it's illegal i'm yelling he's eddie's angry today so she's not even in the movie

Speaker 1 she gets angry when it's the two of us talking about movies and i don't know why i like to yell

Speaker 1 i just miss you guys

Speaker 1 i'm not actually upset i'm just yelling yeah i know i know we just get scared we get triggered all right sometimes we get triggered eddie yeah but brian frankenstein was good but it's basically frankenstein the first movie, and then at the very end, there's a chick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's fucking pointless.

Speaker 4 Gay reading. Hell yeah, man.

Speaker 1 In the decades since its release, modern film scholars such as myself have noted the possible gay interpretations.

Speaker 1 Director James Whale was openly gay, and some of the actors in the cast, including Ernest Theseiger and according to rumor, Colin Clive, were respectively gay or by Jews. I'm glad everyone was gay.

Speaker 1 Although James Curtis Whale's biographer rejects the notion that Whale would have identified with the monster from a homosexual perspective, Scholars have perceived a gay subtext suffused throughout the film, especially a camp sensibility, particularly embodied in the character of Pretorius and his relationship.

Speaker 1 He's gay.

Speaker 1 Pretorius is gay. He's just, he doesn't know where to see it.
Whoa, he's a fan of the game. Well, who cares about him? He's a fucking bad guy.
He is a bad guy.

Speaker 1 We're talking about Frankenstein and the bride of Frankenstein. Yes, the monster.
Well, the monster and...

Speaker 1 The monster whose affections for the male hermit and the female bride he discusses with identical language, friend, has been interpreted as sexually unsettled and bisexual.

Speaker 1 He's just chilling with the blind girls all the time.

Speaker 4 He's a monster is a goddess, by the way. He's pure.

Speaker 1 Frankenstein's monster is pure. Is he? He was just a child.
That's how I view him as a. He's talking too much in this one, too.
He is more talkative in this one.

Speaker 1 I think that Bride of Frankenstein is my favorite of the Frankenstein films. I would like to see, whatever, the return of Bride of Frankenstein when we actually see her kick some ass.

Speaker 1 That's really about kicking ass. That's what I wasn't there for.
It's not about kicking ass. It's about the love.
Allegory. Allegory about sexuality.

Speaker 1 The only love that exists in this film is for Dr. Frankenstein and his soon-to-be wife.

Speaker 1 Indeed, Frankenstein's relationship with Frankenstein's monster relationship with their hermit has been interpreted as a same-sex marriage that heterosexual society will not tolerate. No mistake.

Speaker 1 This is a marriage and a viable one. But Whale reminds us quickly that society does not approve.

Speaker 1 The monster, the outsider, was driven from his scene of domestic pleasure by two gun-tooting rubes who happened upon this startling alliance and quickly instinctively proceeded.

Speaker 4 But he's saying it with the ascento, Eddie.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's the case.

Speaker 1 The creation of the bride scene, according to cultural critic Gary Morris, as it continues, is whales reminded to the audience, his Hollywood bosses, pears, and everyone watching of the majesty and powerful of the homosexual creator.

Speaker 1 Also, did you see in the movie? Who's that? It's a new Oscar Isaac. Yeah, it's the new Frankenstein.
Yeah. Guam of Del Toro.
Who's the monster?

Speaker 1 Somebody like handsome. Oscar Isaac.
No, he's the doctor. Oh, he is? Whoa, Jacob Alorty?

Speaker 4 Is Jacob Alorty Frankenstein? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Who's Jacob Alorty?

Speaker 4 He's the big, he's big, old boy.

Speaker 1 The one from Saltburn. Big boy from Saltburn.

Speaker 1 Everybody likes this boy. Oh, okay.
Everybody likes this.

Speaker 4 He's a very good.

Speaker 1 He did the LGBT. Frankenstein should not be that hot.
I hate this.

Speaker 4 You just hate, you hate when pretty people play ugly things.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 1 Let them be the biggest.

Speaker 4 He should be the doctor. He's not being somebody.

Speaker 1 He should be Praetorius. Now who's yelling? Yeah.
Now I'm yelling.

Speaker 4 I just, I feel like every, this is so.

Speaker 1 Why can't it be

Speaker 1 ugly? I wanted to be. You're just angry.

Speaker 4 You were never going to be Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 No, you were never going to be Frankenstein. He was who it was.
He's short. This is called ad hominem attacks.
This is not about me. All right.
This is about uglier.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about uglier, bigger, biggler people. This should have been played by, you know, who should have played this? Luka Donchik.
Luca Doncha.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, who I really would have liked to see do it is Batista.

Speaker 1 But he's not tall enough.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's so thick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 he's too big. He's like my size.
You really don't need anyone who can speak to do this. This is what I'm saying, Jackie.

Speaker 1 You need to be Jacob Alordi. You're going to cover him in makeup.
You need a big old boy.

Speaker 1 That's all he's doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why Rob Zombie has Tyler Maine.

Speaker 4 We just watched the Rob Zombies Halloween 2007.

Speaker 1 Everyone told me it was horrible.

Speaker 4 Everyone's like, it's so bad.

Speaker 4 I, you know, I went into it being like, okay, this Rob Zombies Halloween, we're not going to enjoy it, but I've never seen it. So, and we need something.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 4 I actually really enjoyed it, and I understand the issue that a lot of people don't like that they added in a backstory to Michael Myers rather than him just being

Speaker 4 more just like the pure evil that he is.

Speaker 1 Also, people don't like that they're all goth and shit, too. That everyone, because they like everyone being pure, and then Michael coming and killing the pure

Speaker 1 evil.

Speaker 4 Exactly.

Speaker 1 And that's why I get it, but like, I love it.

Speaker 4 Yes, I like what. Rob Zombie did to it.
And I know that a lot of people, like, oh my God, how he writes women and stuff. It's like, yeah, that's like the thing, though.
It's funny.

Speaker 4 It's a trashy horror movie.

Speaker 1 He's specifically writing it in that style. He's going off of old Grindhouse films.
It is specifically to-

Speaker 4 Exactly. It's Grindhouse rather than Slasher.
And again, those are two different, sometimes, genres.

Speaker 1 But also, I think that Damon Leone is taking quite a bit from Rob Zombie's directing style. Absolutely.
What I have loved. That's why, yes.
What I love. about Rob Zombie's films.

Speaker 1 And again, we're Rob Zombie apologists on the show. We've always been this way.

Speaker 1 Because I like them. Most people dislike it.

Speaker 4 A lot of people don't like it.

Speaker 1 Well, they can go fuck themselves. Exactly.
I know. Exactly.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 there's something about Damian Lee. He's made some shit movies.
Sure, yeah.

Speaker 4 He certainly has.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying anything. His last match has been rough.
His last match has been rough. But that

Speaker 1 what Damian Leone has done is realize they're extremely good at

Speaker 1 Rob Zombie tone shifts awesomely.

Speaker 1 Like he does this great thing, especially in the Devil's Rejects world, in that world where he portrays the first third of that movie is almost unwatchable, and then the rest of it's a comedy.

Speaker 1 I love it. I absolutely love it.
The Devil's Rejects is probably top five horror films.

Speaker 4 It's one of my favorite horror movies.

Speaker 1 But the thing about is the

Speaker 1 way he portrays the innocent is funny because he obviously, and like he shows contempt for the innocent. He can't wait to kill them.

Speaker 1 Yes, he shows contempt for the innocent, which is for us as a viewer, I love.

Speaker 1 I love as a truly morbid person. Like

Speaker 1 Terrifier 3.

Speaker 1 No disrespect, but Terrifier 3. But it actually had some more moments than he thought it deserved.
It actually had more good stuff. I shut it off.
Yeah, no, I finished it. It wasn't that bad.

Speaker 1 Else Super Beasto is unwatchable. Unwatchable.
31 is unwatchable.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
But the rest of them are fine. And then the new one, the new, the sequel, the third

Speaker 1 Devil's Rejects was a lot of fun. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 But I just feel bad because Sid Haig was sick. Why did they drag him there? I guess he needed something to do with it.

Speaker 1 They were just trying, literally, according to Rob Zombie, they were just trying to get him on film one less time. One last time.

Speaker 4 And so that was

Speaker 1 trying trying to get someone out of the house. Because also, Sid Haig was supposed to be the guy that replaced him.
He was not supposed to. He was supposed to be in the entire movie.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then he got replaced. So the whole thing got changed.
So that I can understand. But Three from Hell.

Speaker 1 Damon Leone does it so well, especially in Terrifier 3, because like, you know, spoilers, but you, the whole, like, all of the sentimentality, like, he does this thing where the music kicks in and it's like emotional.

Speaker 1 And it's like a good drama scene. Like, he's leaving, like, a couple of things, like a good old-fashioned, like, that's a like.

Speaker 4 Beautiful family.

Speaker 1 It reminds me of Elm Street. It reminds me of a thing of we're caring.
You are making me care about these people.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm watching all of these tremendously lovely people that I know that are all going to be fucking tortured. And I'm so excited for it as a viewer.

Speaker 1 I can't wait. And that's what it is.
It's almost like when Rob Zombie does it, when Damon Leone does it, it's almost like, you know, you know, they say you put a little salt on a watermelon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's what makes it taste good. Oh, God, he put it in watermelon.

Speaker 4 You just reminded me of a scene from Terrifier 2.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it's good. You take the watermelon, you put it in the ocean, and you eat it that way.
That's a good trick.

Speaker 1 I got a fun Sid Haig story before it warms up.

Speaker 4 Tell us the Sid Haig story.

Speaker 1 So I'm at Montreal Comedy Festival doing warm-up for Roast Battle the TV show.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of celebrities in the audience. It's like full, like half of the X-Men are there because they were filming in Montreal at the time.
It was like crazy.

Speaker 1 And then as I'm warming up, you know, you're calling them out and shit like that.

Speaker 1 i see fucking sid haig in the audience and i was like whoa i was like that's the celebrity i want to meet fucking sid haig and i was like give it up for sid haig everybody you know like blowing up his spot and shit and it wasn't him it was just some ugly dude oh no

Speaker 1 well at least you roasted him real good before that honestly it does help yeah it does help he's like at least i look like somebody well that's the thing is like you don't but no one knows who the fuck sid haig is oh my god

Speaker 1 That's sad. They should have.

Speaker 4 He was like apparently he's very nice though.

Speaker 1 My husband has dead him.

Speaker 4 I know. I know he's dead now.
He's dead.

Speaker 4 He was nice when he was alive is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Now he's cold.

Speaker 1 Food for the worms. Oh, yeah.
But Bride of Frankenstein, it was good. It was fine.
But like what I did of their classic.

Speaker 1 We have a classic section. Yes.
And I also watched American Werewolf in London. Which I figured you'd love.

Speaker 1 I've seen it before, but i never finished it because it's so slow and i always watched it when i was super young i think i've always fallen asleep while watching it and rocks so make it so yeah and

Speaker 1 rocks it's so good

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah i loved american werewolf in london it's funny it's like got a great story and character development i can't you everyone should just go out and make sure they watch that on their 31 for 30.

Speaker 1 i do have a correction i was wrong on the title of the film that i had entered into R31 for 31. I need this.
I need this. I have redone it because I realized it was not the film that I thought it was.

Speaker 1 I'm a moron. I've changed it.
I'm going to change it officially. We'll put it onto socials.
Well, I will say with our 32 movies on R31 for 31.

Speaker 1 So you could just take it off.

Speaker 1 You could just take it off.

Speaker 1 But I'm adding the house October built, which I also think is an extremely... Because I added a whole found footage section because I'm a bitch for fucking found footage.

Speaker 4 It's beyond, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm going to see it. I haven't seen it yet.
I've been waiting. The Houses October Built is.

Speaker 1 Oh, you added it to the list. I did.
It's extremely scary. I think it's really good.
Is it? I really like it. I also forgot how much I love the original VHS.

Speaker 4 The original VHS is great, but again, VHS Beyond, because I feel like the last couple of VHSs were not, you know, with anthology movies.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for the first one.

Speaker 4 The best part about anthology movies is that, like, well, it's like, it switches it up.

Speaker 1 You like to switch it up.

Speaker 4 You'll probably like the next one. And I've liked at least two in every single VHS.

Speaker 1 I I saw the wedding scene in VHS too, and that was pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 4 Fun, it's a fun one.

Speaker 1 It's great, but also that one has the best binding glue of all of them. The VHS, the original, has a really good binding glue in terms of the runner bit.
The theme. The theme bit is good.

Speaker 4 That's why I like VHS Beyond, because I didn't know anything about it. We just popped it on.
I didn't realize it was all alien stories.

Speaker 4 Oh, I did not know it was all alien stories. Alien stories and, God, Jeff knew the name of the dude that is the through line.
Like, apparently, he's this, you're going to know who he is.

Speaker 4 It's some big alien dude that does these like interstitials in between.

Speaker 4 But what I like is that every alien is very different in every section.

Speaker 1 Like, it's all

Speaker 1 fun

Speaker 1 making these.

Speaker 4 Justin Long makes a really fun one. It's stuff that you don't expect.
And I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I really like the first one. But also, I put another one of my truly favorite found footage movies on here, Lake Mungo.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Lake Mungo is fun.
Have you ever seen it?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We did it last time.
I haven't gotten to it yet. Lake Mungo has got Twin Peaks vibes.
Oh, okay. It's very good.

Speaker 1 It's very good. Very scowy.

Speaker 1 Very quietly, very scowy. I'm very excited for that.
You know what? Going back to the anthology horror movies that I've liked the ones from the 90s.

Speaker 1 There's two in particular that I watched a bunch growing up that I wish that I needed. Now I want to re-watch them.
Tales of Terror? No, but Tales from the Hood.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tales from the Hood is my favorite July. Batty

Speaker 1 Batty Bags is great. It's on Shudder.
Oh, is it? I don't know. It's on Shudder.
It's great. It's worth it.
I'll always have been chilling for Shudder for forever. But

Speaker 1 Tales from the Hood is my favorite July 4th horror movie.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't know what it is. There's something about that movie.
I've watched it on July 4th almost every time. The soundtrack's great too, by the way.
It's great.

Speaker 1 There's something about this movie that makes me think of The Sins of America.

Speaker 1 That it is just great.

Speaker 1 Except for the one time, man, I will say, though, it's movie two.

Speaker 1 It's one issue about me choosing the movie is that I have to remember because it's like, sometimes I'll choose the movie and I'll be like, everybody's going to love this.

Speaker 1 And like, we did something, we had people had over. I was like, there was like, let's throw on a movie.
And I was like, Tails from the Hood. And I put it on, and everyone was sad.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I forgot that it really ends in the movie. Yeah, people get really sad with this movie too.
But I was like, but it's got the little penny.

Speaker 1 It's got little

Speaker 1 penny in it. Yeah.
But it's fault. Which is still one of my favorite side characters of all time that I missed from the 90s as well.
Lil Penny. Yeah, you remember a little penny? Oh, yeah.
I remember.

Speaker 1 I was an Orlando Magic fan. Anthony Hardaway.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, that's why there's just certain movies that I love to throw on that are completely mindless. Now, this is my first time going through the.
So every year we add on a new Friday the 13th.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to be real with you, two years ago, I had never seen the original Friday the 13th. So every year?

Speaker 4 We watched the next one. So last year we watched the second one.
This year, we watched the third one.

Speaker 1 Now, the third one, you know. It's the worst one.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It really wasn't as bad as I thought it was. I guess because everyone told me it was the worst one.
Then you were perfectly fine.

Speaker 1 He's not even in it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, he is in it. He's in this one.
This is where he gets the mask.

Speaker 1 Oh, that it's four he's not in.

Speaker 4 Yes, this is the one. No, this is the one where he acts like he gets the mask for the first time rather than just wearing the.
So I never realized like the origin of

Speaker 4 the music.

Speaker 4 And I really, because this is my first like time going through this series, I really thought that like, oh, by the time you get to the third one, it's going to be a real stinko, stinko, stinko.

Speaker 4 And sure, it's mindless. It's not like reinventing the Friday the 13th.

Speaker 1 It's 18.

Speaker 1 Seven's badass.

Speaker 4 But I'm excited to go on the journey of like, as it goes up and down through time when they're like, oh, yeah, make another one.

Speaker 1 I guess put another one on. And sometimes I would like, I will say.
say, and this is probably where I get the most flack, is that I think the Friday the 13th is my least favorite of the bit top.

Speaker 1 Well, because it's clearly a knockoff. Yeah, it's clearly a knockoff.
I like what Jason ended up being. I like what he got to.
I like the later on ones.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's like one day I'll come back to it because it's funny because both Natalie and I's least favorite. Have you ever seen the movies that made us of Friday the 13th? No.

Speaker 1 It's a night, it was a nightmare. Everyone got hurt.
Like it was

Speaker 1 a terrible set.

Speaker 1 What the reboot? No, the original Friday the 13th with Kevin Bacon and shit. Yeah.
Yeah. They have the movies that made us through like the documentaries on Netflix.
They have one about that.

Speaker 1 And it was just like, it was a nightmare to make.

Speaker 1 Of course, that's great. Yeah, of course.
No money, fucking middle of the woods. Yeah, just torturing everyone involved.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 But again, I do want to say about Friday the 13th, part three. I had, I was very stoned while I watched it.
So it really was.

Speaker 4 I mean, don't, you know, go into it thinking that your life is about to be changed.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, that's Jason Lives.

Speaker 4 No, this is Friday the 13th, part three.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, what's the tag, though?

Speaker 4 It's just part three.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is Jason Lives. Oh, it is Jason Lives.
Oh no, it is part three. I'll go.

Speaker 1 Oh man, that's it.

Speaker 1 And that's why it's good to do because

Speaker 1 you never know the gems inside of the franchise. You know what? It's like Hellraiser.
Hellraiser is my favorite. It's my favorite of all the franchises.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 I like the bad ones too. I'm a Hellraiser 3 stan.
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Speaker 4 Well, I'm also excited. This is a movie.
I remember the VHS cover, and they did a reboot of it, and I haven't seen that either. Do you remember the movie Cube?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cube's bad.

Speaker 1 I remember Gleaming the Cube, but that was like an action movie.

Speaker 4 Oh, that was an action movie.

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 not as good as you remember.

Speaker 4 So I remember the VHS cover.

Speaker 1 The whole talking.

Speaker 1 That's what you forget.

Speaker 1 You You forget about Cube because I went to go re-watch it and I was like tired or whatever. And you're like, oh yeah, because the fucking, all of the visual elements of Cube are awesome.

Speaker 1 And you're like, oh, this is the best.

Speaker 4 Cube is going to be scary. Is it not? Just talk.

Speaker 1 Damn it.

Speaker 4 It's hard to find good every year because, you know, we do 50s or earlier, 60s, 70s, 90s, 80s. We do all of it.
90s every year. I'm just like, all right.

Speaker 1 Well, because sometimes they are real hit and miss. Because I see, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 You can always watch like Scream again. You can watch 13 goes 13 goes again.
Like, I want to watch new ones, though. I'm trying to find ones that I've never seen.

Speaker 4 I think that, Jackie, there's usually a reason why you haven't seen them.

Speaker 1 Yes, and you've seen quite a bit of horror films. I was talking to Julie about this this week, where we were just talking about horror movies in general.

Speaker 1 And she was like, She asked a very interesting question, which I'm going to pose to you, and then I'll ask the question from Julie to me, and I'll answer it for me.

Speaker 1 But I want to hear your all's answers.

Speaker 1 She asked, I'm Julie.

Speaker 1 Well, you don't know the question.

Speaker 1 Am I Eddie? I'm Julie. I'm both.

Speaker 1 You're both.

Speaker 1 I'm Julie. You'll leave my wife out of it.
You can say whatever you want about me.

Speaker 1 No, but she asked me, which horror movie have you seen that you wish you wrote? And I was like,

Speaker 1 but I couldn't help. I really, I sat there and I thought about it.
And I think the horror movie I wish I wrote that I like the most, in a weird way, Tales from the Crypt Demon Knight. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 You're not overshooting it. No, it's not.
You're not later writing. I wish I wrote Hereditary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not overshooting it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Makes sense.
Because honestly, first thought that came to my mind, Psycho Goreman.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I love Psycho Goreman.
They've got a new one coming out.

Speaker 1 They've got a new one.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. I love Psycho Goreman.
And I love just like that. Talk about a horror comedy that does it right.

Speaker 4 I guess it's more a sci-fi comedy than it's pretty hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but there's also horror elements. They're ripping people apart.
my or my honest opinion is that if there was one I wish I could write is something in the style basically of the ring yeah

Speaker 1 something simple something simple that's my cue is that if you're going to be scary it's so scary is so hard yeah scary is so like it's just like funny it's entirely subjective pretty much like you are you everybody has their own parameters what they find scary or or what or not what not

Speaker 1 and it's also like it's about timing and it's about

Speaker 1 how do i deliver this idea so simply and into the person's brain you know i mean like that's what dread is dread is like it's weird how dread in films are it's off by like inches like you can tell like why when i'm watching david lynch oh dread is the emotion locked in i was thinking of dread the movie

Speaker 1 dread when i'm watching david lynch there's something about the way it's literally about about the composition of the shot and the timing and the atmosphere that he knows technically that allows you to feel this sense of thick, purposeful dread.

Speaker 1 But you can tell the difference between the movies that are dreadful and extremely boring. But I don't quite know what that difference is, but you know that it's a difference.

Speaker 1 It's different for everybody, too. It does.
It's entirely subjective.

Speaker 1 But I mostly find that people who don't have budgets think that they can pull off dread and they don't understand that dread is probably probably one of the most complex filmic elements of the horror genre.

Speaker 4 And what you do with less. I actually was thinking about it, I just saw that it's uh, it's open for streaming.
I talked about it in the last one that we did, talking about horror movies, Oddity.

Speaker 4 That's another movie that, like, I feel like for some people might come off as boring, but I was so like wrapped the entire time the

Speaker 4 dread that was created from it that I thought was like really creepy imagery, very, very unsettling.

Speaker 1 The movie that I always think of as the biggest failure in that is that, what was the one with Harry Potter? That stupid garbage horror movie that he did? No, not Tuss. That's the same movie.

Speaker 1 It was like the Black House.

Speaker 1 I didn't bother with that. It's like those type of movies.
It's kind of how I felt about, unfortunately, it's how I felt about the shape of water. Oh, I love the shape of water.

Speaker 1 The shape of water dread.

Speaker 1 And then his

Speaker 1 game. And then also, unfortunately, Keona Del Toro's other movie, the gothic horror that he did, where I was just fancy.
Fans Labyrinth? No, not that one.

Speaker 1 Not Horns.

Speaker 1 Not Horns.

Speaker 1 Horns is good.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. That's what I was thinking, though, of Tusk, though.
That's why I think that's good.

Speaker 1 No, Horns is good. The one that he did.
Do you remember where he has to staple the guns to his hands? It's like he goes to Kimbo. No, Guns of Kimbo is good.

Speaker 1 There's one where he was like, it's like he's in front of a house. And they're like, it's sad and there.
That was a ghost in that house. Do you know what? The woman in black.

Speaker 1 That movie fucking sucks, Dick.

Speaker 1 Just a little bit to look at their Daniel Radcliffe movie. That's the movie sucks dick.

Speaker 4 That's the movie. It sucks, dick.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what I find out. I like Daniel Radcliffe.
I do too. I love him as an actor.
I think he's doing great shit. I love his work.

Speaker 1 I just think that that movie, it's not, that was not his fault. I'm just showing that's an example of a movie that thinks it's dreadful, but it's just.
You know, a movie's fucking dreadful.

Speaker 1 It follows. That's exactly.
That is the ultimate definition.

Speaker 1 I did one. I actually said, have you ever done that with like a comedy or even with any one of these movies where I've always watched a movie? That movie always freaked me out.

Speaker 1 I love it follows and then the last time I watched it I'm sitting and watching it and I'm just like I just a naked old man far away yeah

Speaker 1 broke the movie for me when I was just like That's just a guy over there. Well, you could say that about any goat.
I know, I know. But it was like, I ruined it.

Speaker 1 You ever do that where it like ruined it for myself just for that night? Yeah, I couldn't. I'm like sitting and watching it.
I was like, well, it's like the shining.

Speaker 1 The first time you see the bear giving the dude a blowjob, it's terrifying. Now it's fun.
Now I like it. Yeah, now it's like, I want to, I was like, look at him getting his.
I want to know him.

Speaker 1 I want to hang out with him. Yeah, dude.
I want him to have a show in the network. All right, so what on our list have you not seen that you're most excited for?

Speaker 1 The thing that I'm saving towards the end are Gunjium Haunted Asylum, and

Speaker 1 I am saving Neroi the Curse, which is also

Speaker 1 wonderful. I'm also saving...
This weekend, we're going to bang some out. Ready?

Speaker 1 We're going to go to your house. We're going to probably do...
I'd say we do this franchise tonight. I want to do Elm Street together and I want to do Halloween 6 together.

Speaker 1 I'm really excited for Blood Diner. I've owned the DVD for like a decade and never watched it.
Also, what's nice is that, and did you like Jenny? Do you like Jennifer's body too?

Speaker 1 I love Jennifer's body.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 I thought for sure I was going to hate it. That's why I haven't seen it.
It wasn't like I was scared or anything. It's going to be funny.
It seemed awful. It got bad reviews.

Speaker 1 I was like, fuck this movie.

Speaker 1 It's like

Speaker 4 there were certain movies that, like, honestly.

Speaker 1 I hated Juno. And I felt famously

Speaker 4 About the Terrifier series, that I was like, I'm not going to like it. It's not for me.
And then sometimes you just got to check it out and you're like, damn, wow.

Speaker 1 And that's the lesson we're going to leave you with tonight. Yeah.
It's okay to dislike some horror movies. Horror movies, you,

Speaker 1 it's the only genre of film that if it's a bad one, I'm not mad that I watched it. Same, same, same.

Speaker 1 I also kind of feel like that with accident movies, but that's different. You know what I mean? That's just a good time.

Speaker 1 But I wouldn't leave you with this is that I think it's important. No VHS unturned.
So if you go out there and you're afraid to see a movie, you don't know what's in it.

Speaker 1 It might be the best thing you ever see. You have no idea that you're you have no idea that you haven't seen your favorite movie yet.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But also highly recommend Shudder because Shudder is a great app to just,

Speaker 4 it's got so many great indie weird stuff.

Speaker 1 This is why YouTube knows so much more than I. Oh, also just constantly, it's all I watch.
I just love horror movies. Also, I don't watch television.
I don't watch anything else.

Speaker 1 I don't watch the news. I don't watch anything but horror movies and YouTube.

Speaker 4 Also, I'm going to say, I'm very obsessed with you. I'm destroyed.

Speaker 1 I have a 14-year-old's brain.

Speaker 4 Apparently, the reboot of, I guess is it a reboot? The remake of Speak No Evil apparently is really good. And I, on principle, didn't want to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 No, it was not. No, it's not good.

Speaker 1 It's supposed to not be good. Rob says it's not good.

Speaker 4 Because it's got all these insane reviews.

Speaker 1 You're lying to us.

Speaker 4 It has to be lies.

Speaker 1 I know it has to be lies. Sometimes you've seen the trailer.
You've seen the movie.

Speaker 4 I know. That's the thing.
And I love the original. And I don't want to see.
I mean, I like James McAvoy, but I don't know if I need to see it.

Speaker 1 Watch the original movie. You know what I had great reviews that I thought was fucking doo-doo was that new serial killer movie, Strange Darling.

Speaker 1 Oh, you were talking about this. I haven't seen it.
I've got poo-poo in my mind. I'll watch it.
I'll watch it at some point. Yeah, it's the new, yeah.
Everyone's like, oh, the twist. Oh, I liked it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I watched it at some point. It's like one of those things that goes like salt burn is like, they're like trying to impress me with how edgy they are.
And I'm like, I've seen it.

Speaker 1 I understand, but that's me. To me, that's when I get my.
That's effective, though. That's me when I get to my most boomer.
When I'm yelling about, like, we did it 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, every single time I see like offensive comedy where it's like, we did it already. You know what I mean? But I also understand.
Yeah. It's time for people to find new things.

Speaker 1 And they're always, there's always shucks. They did try something, I will say that.

Speaker 4 And I just, I've got such a soft spot for any horror movie that's like, well, you know, they're trying to hit it out of the park. And it was an hour and a half.

Speaker 4 And I didn't look at the time the entire time.

Speaker 1 I mostly just like to see that they're trying.

Speaker 1 So go.

Speaker 1 You didn't do Joker. Oh, we didn't do it.
Is Joker a horror movie? Is it just

Speaker 1 we talk about this, this is my one statement on Joker 2. I'm going to say this right now.
Spoilers a little bit.

Speaker 1 Joker 2 seems to be made upon the premise that everybody who sort of liked Joker 1, which is everybody, according to them, went to go see Joker 1. I did not particularly enjoy Joker 1.

Speaker 1 I felt that it was a ripoff of the king of comedy. And the reason why I went to go see it was because it had the words the Joker in it, and it had Joaquin Phoenix playing the Joker.

Speaker 1 And I just wanted to see what that was. I was disappointed with what it was in the end.

Speaker 1 And then in the end what it seems that Todd Phillips has decided is that Joker 2 is a response to those people that like Joker for he considers to be the wrong reasons and then that's the reason why they punish the Joker throughout the entire film and then they rape him until he's not the Joker anymore which is the single worst lesson

Speaker 1 I've seen in a film. It'd be like if the end of the Joseph Fritzel story, if Elizabeth was like, you know what, actually, I miss my dad.

Speaker 1 And so it is a non-watch a troll troll trolls, though. But but do it on your own time.
Do it on Twitter, like everybody else, because I you spent $200 million that should have went to North Carolina.

Speaker 1 Also, that movie did not

Speaker 1 need $200 million.

Speaker 1 It did at least in 52 for Joaquin, Lady Gaga, and Todd Phillips. And then the rest of it, I don't know where the hell it went.
Just the fact that, I mean, big spoke again, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler.

Speaker 1 You can skip this, skip, skip, skip, skip.

Speaker 1 But it's just like the fact that she wasn't the one that bombed them at the end was the dumbest shit the fact that she didn't get

Speaker 1 the baby's plot line went fucking absolutely nowhere uh he didn't smile at the end like the idea of like we now todd phillips is trying to say the ending showed that he had acceptance about dying is like no he didn't he looked upset and then uh the stupid heath ledger the easter egg cast on yeah is the dumbest shit i've ever seen all of the constant like the constant like it's also like if you're gonna have songs be a fucking musical if you can spend 200 million dollars hire some fucking actors and some fucking instruments and And don't you know?

Speaker 4 And don't hire Lady Gaga and tell her not to sing.

Speaker 1 And then have them just whisper sing. And this is my thing.
We didn't even have a big musical number. Do social media.
We have a summary of it.

Speaker 1 Try a new thing with one of the songs. Try something else with one of the fucking songs.
I did like they used the Joker by Sammy Davis Jr. I was real mad that that song wasn't in the first place.

Speaker 1 It's just, it sounds like they went to, that movie sounded like they went to Wikipedia and said, what are songs that have clowns in it? And then they just kind of put it in things. It's just...
uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Look who's angry now.

Speaker 4 Sometimes you just got to calm down.

Speaker 1 Think about Pearl. Pearl was one of the most expertly made sequels I've ever seen.
I don't like it.

Speaker 4 Listen to them, Henry.

Speaker 1 Maxine was far superior.

Speaker 1 I loved the motion.

Speaker 1 But I'm at peace with Eddie's opinions because

Speaker 1 this is America.

Speaker 4 Yes, right?

Speaker 1 It's America.

Speaker 1 And I don't, nor should I

Speaker 1 attack Eddie for his belief.

Speaker 4 Good for you, Henry. We've grown a lot.

Speaker 1 I really,

Speaker 1 really have. So thank you very much.
Eddie has grown a lot.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, sideways, yeah. Yeah, in his mid-second year.
Yeah, Eddie, yeah, Eddie.

Speaker 1 How can I break this cycle of pain?

Speaker 1 Maybe if a bunch of cops come and rape Eddie, he'll stop making fun of me.

Speaker 1 Joker, too, Eddie, we gotta get Eddie.

Speaker 1 It'd be sexy. Not rape, because I love you.

Speaker 1 I love you, boys. And that's why Eddie runs a show called The Brighter Side.

Speaker 1 Which is that he's always keeping a look on the Brighter Side. Patreon.com/slash last podcast.
I'm left to watch us do all this shit in the flesh.

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Speaker 1 Is one of the new one? It's great. Go check it out.
Gucku's a great one. We've got Goodput coming up in October 2014.

Speaker 1 Weeks from now. We are going to have a big show in L.A., The Wiltern.
Last podcast on the left. It's going to be fucking unbelievable.
I can't wait for that. It's a fucking bucket list venue for me.

Speaker 1 And then the following month in December, we're going to be in Brooklyn playing King's fucking theater. Mookie's back in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 No, he's not. He lives in Los Angeles.
Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 he does live back in Brooklyn. Oh, good for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Mookie.
Yeah, yeah. What's up, Mookie? I'll invite him to the show.
Yeah, please.

Speaker 1 Jackie, where are people to find you for your show?

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