Episode 615: The Montauk Project Part I - The Truth Behind The Truth Behind The Lies

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That's when the cannibalism started.

What was that?

Oh, no, I have a whole theory about.

Where do you think the Montauk voice?

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They're little Nazi-trained voice.

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C is more of the Nazis than Alpha.

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It allows them to travel through time.

Oh, you think the broccoli hair, like, resists the time juice?

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I am Marcus Parks.

I'm here with Henry Zabrowski.

And I'm a Montauk boy expert.

I bet you are.

If I walk the streets of Montauk, I could tell you every kind of thing.

Bring me a boy.

Bring me the boys.

That's your stick ball boy.

That's your boy boy that's fucking at the age of 12 that's your boy that is gonna go on to become the new the situation and meaning that he's gonna cause a situation yeah at a public grocery store now is this because on the way to campiro on the road as you're driving there you will pass Hank Zabrowski Memorial Field.

I don't know where my father was during the 60s.

You won't answer my questions.

My father won't tell me what he was doing on Montauk, why there was a memorial field dedicated to him there.

I think on the way to, I think it's dedicated to you.

I think if time travels real and you're involved with the fucking CIA, like we always claimed you were.

I'm in the NSA.

You're in all of it, baby.

I feel like all of this is I'm seeing it all flooding back.

Yeah.

And I might have been divided into two different realities.

And maybe that's one reality where I'm some shit fuck fat face in Long Island getting a memorial field based upon me because I got shot in the bank.

Is that what happened to to him?

I think so.

Or, and then the other half of me is here living this incredible Hollywood life.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's why I'm so tired.

That's exactly why you're so tired.

And of course, we have with us the open-minded Ed Larson, very open-minded this week.

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Very good.

This is an important chapter in conspiracy theory history.

We're talking about the Montauk Project today.

This is a very important chapter.

This is something that we've been wanting to cover for a very, very long time.

We weren't quite ready yet, but I think now we finally got the chops to do it.

We got the juice for it.

Oh, yeah.

This is the bullshit noise that is technically that strings the Philadelphia experiment, MKUltra, all of it together in one big old fun conspiracy soup.

Yeah, I mean, at its core, the Montauk Project is what happens when you take a handful of the great conspiracy theories of of the 20th century, from MK Ultra to alien collaborations with America to secret government time travel experiments, and you put them all in a one building in Long Island.

Now, some of you may already know that the story of the Montauk Project was very loosely adapted into the Netflix show Stranger Things.

In fact, the original pitch for Stranger Things was a found footage project called Montauk.

But while Stranger Things is admittedly a delightful show and quite light-hearted, the actual story of the Montauk Project, or at least the story that has been presented to the world, is far darker and far more unbelievable.

Although you will notice similarities here and there.

As Henry put it to me, the Montauk Project is, in essence, the story of alien tech stolen by the Nazis to create a nation of time-traveling boys.

That's what we all are looking for.

That, however, is only part of the tale here.

The story goes that between 1943 and 1984, the Montauk Project also conducted experiments that brought fearsome beasts into our reality from the planes beyond, using psychics, kidnapped children, William Reich's Orgon Energies, the Antichrist, and the actor Mark Hamill.

Who is still trying to fight to get his way out of this story?

But as far as what the goal of the Montauk Project was, it mainly focused on unlocking the farthest reaches of human potential by developing our psychic abilities via alien tech.

And it was the development of those abilities that led to all the time travel and monster manifestation.

And it led to the scariest, funkiest lounge chair to ever exist.

The Montauk chair.

Oh, we'll get to it.

But this story, in essence, really, we have to remember.

Every single corner of this story takes place in beautiful Long Island.

Yes.

And that every end of it.

Oh, man.

The very end of it.

Tip of the dick.

This is where Billy Joel watches over everyone.

Everyone.

It's all celebrities now.

Oh, yes.

Sure, sure.

Alec Baldwin.

Steven Spielberg's got a compound out there.

Alec Baldwin, just be careful around there.

Don't try to shoot a Western around there.

He's on the softball team.

Did you know that?

And this is, but just remember, I think a lot of what comes out of this story and why we are so obsessed with the story is: I dare you to have a building in Long Island and tell a bunch of Long Islanders that they can't go in it.

And what they do, and they go, Oh, you mean tell me?

Oh, I can't go fucking in there.

There's nothing, oh, I guess nothing for me to see, huh?

Nothing for white pie, Tony, to see.

You know what I mean?

Like, yes, unfortunately, sometimes I know Tony, you do know everybody's business in Franklin Square, but not just not in this one square.

Yeah, and in this little building, when you tell them you can't go in there, the people of Long Island started to create a story around this location on Montauk Point.

Well, they're barely telling them they can't go in there.

It's a six-foot fence.

Like, you can get in there.

You can get in there.

I had too much pasta for Zoor to see if I can't get over a six-foot fence.

Wide Pie Tony can't get out of a lawn chair.

You know, I can't even marry him.

I don't understand.

Why don't these conspiracy theories just come to me?

Now, since the Montauk Project is such a hodgepodge of so many conspiracy theories, it can not surprisingly turn into a confusing labyrinth of pseudoscience and dead-end narratives quite quickly.

Almost immediately.

Additionally, the men who tell the story about the Montauk Project are, simply put, liars of the highest degree, pathological even.

Some of the claims they make about both the project and their personal lives are either impossible or so easily disproved.

But they've built it all into the storytelling.

Yeah, the co-author of the definitive book on the Montauk Project, he totally cops this.

His name is Peter Moon, and he says that his book, also named The Montauk Project, is not necessarily 100% true.

See?

See?

That's just because some of its information is based on intuition, psychic readings, and the channeling of various alien entities.

Peter Moon, however, does go on to say that if at least part of his claims weren't true,

then the mainstream media wouldn't have spent so many years not covering his book.

Like Marcus here.

Like what Marcus is doing.

Marcus is already shutting down a valve of information as we even fucking go.

You tell me I'm the work?

I'm covering the book.

I'm doing it, man.

I'm putting it out there.

But in the conspiracy theorist's mind, not covering the book is tantamount to actively suppressing the information contained therein.

Who published the book?

I believe it was him.

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

The first one might have been like pretty legit.

It might have been something like Pegasus Press.

Like, I mean, legit in the fact that he, I don't know if he had to put up his own money to put it out.

I don't think it was a, it wasn't a vanity pressing.

I know that for sure.

Yeah, Sky Books.

I'm certain.

Yeah, that was out there.

That was like one of those small, it was a small

imprint.

I think it's the same imprint that put out Behold a Pale Horse.

Cool.

I think so.

Well, I'd love to meet that fucked up editor.

You got Peter Moon on one phone call.

You got Bill Cooper on the other.

How is the grammar in the book?

It's fine.

Yeah, well, it's like a finely written book.

I just want to check.

Yeah, it's good enough.

It's definitely good enough.

But

you forget, Marcus, is that you're not giving them the credit of the fact that every single time that they were engaged in work on the Montauk project, they were being bombarded with hypnotic messaging from powerful radars that were being manned by boy psychics.

Yeah, I am.

And I don't, you're forgetting that.

And every single time you do, I'm going to put your ass right in the fucking corner.

Oh.

And I think it's interesting that a man named Peter Moon shows his ass so often.

Hey, that's when that was, he came from a lineage of fellow ass showers.

Now, Peter Moon brought the story of the Montauk Project to the world with his 1992 book of the same name, which was co-written with a whistleblower who supposedly worked on the inside of the the Montauk project as a scientist for well over a decade.

These two men claim that after they began publishing in the early 90s, because the Montauk Project was just one book amongst a series of books, including Pyramids of the Montauk, I believe.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which is again just white Tony's back.

White Pie Tony's back is covered with a lot of Montauk pyramids.

I usually get the red sauce, but it started to give me hotburns.

Yeah, so I got it losing.

Now I take it anally.

But after they began publishing in the early 90s, these two men claim to have been contacted by a multitude of people who worked on the Montauk project itself.

People who have confirmed, Peter Moon said, that everything written in the book is true, even though Peter said himself that not everything in the book is true.

But Peter Moon is comfortable living with these contradictions because for him, reality is highly malleable for everyone.

In fact, he says that as a general rule, if you think that you've been involved in a space-time project, then you probably have.

Because the entire universe is, after all, a space-time project in itself.

That explains all my shit with Obama and being with him having lunch on Saturn.

Because Barack Obama comes into this later on.

Oh, thank God.

Yeah.

He comes in later.

This also connects Project Serpo.

It does connect to Project Serpo, yes.

And the secret space program.

Barack Obama on Mars and John Titor as well.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

It all connects.

That makes it real.

Yeah.

What is Project Serpo?

I don't know.

We're not.

We're an exchange between us and a race of aliens that we met on a planet called Serpo.

They called it Serpo.

And we did an astronaut exchange.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Through the same mechanisms that allow them to travel through time and space.

Hold on.

So aliens call their astronauts astronauts as well?

No, we call them astronauts to make them feel better about having aliens on.

All aliens are astronauts.

Yeah, technically.

Fuck.

Right?

Buns Aldrin was an alien on the moon.

Put that in your fucking bong and smoke it.

Damn.

I can feel your mind opening.

You gotta understand, dude.

We already have been the aliens, man.

I'm gonna fucking run some mind control of myself for next week, man.

This is gonna be great.

I'm coming in fucked up.

He's just gonna be doing.

It's called wickets.

He's just gonna be putting a plastic bag over his head to play the pass-out game.

You tell me that the fucking man on the moon was inside the moon?

Said he was in the bunker?

Exactly.

But at the end of the day, the Montauk Project is still a classic old-school conspiracy theory that folds in all the old favorites like the Philadelphia experiment, the reptilians, and Nazis.

And that's in addition to its own swerves like time-traveling chairs and murderous monsters born from the human subconscious.

And so, let's get into the Montauk Project by starting at its location, Montauk Point, located on the easternmost end of Long Island in New York State.

Now, supposedly, and I'm going to be using that word a lot today.

You know,

it's a thought experiment.

I counted it.

I think in my script, the word supposedly is used 29 times.

I think that you need to delete it, bro, and just understand that this is concrete reality, dog.

There could be a couple allegedly's in there.

Well, no, that's the thing.

It's not even counting the allegedly.

But supposedly, a lighthouse was constructed at Montauk Point specifically on the orders of George Washington and Alexander Hamilton in 1792 through an act of Congress.

Great!

The co-authors of the Montauk Project point towards the construction of this lighthouse as proof that the idea of doing clandestine scientific research at Montauk Point was something that has been planned since the founding of our country, but it only came to pass starting in the 1940s.

I'm only going to give a little bit of pushback here, only because a lighthouse is something that you can immediately see.

So it doesn't really make any sense.

Well, it's like

it's just marking it.

It's just like, hey, guys, if you want to do clandestine scientific research sometime in the future in this country, this is a good place for it.

That's actually the opposite of what you want to do with a

clandestine research facility.

You don't want to put anything that has any sort of like, like,

it also, you know, it has nothing to do with the fact that it's the closest point of the United States to England.

Well, and and the nazis yeah and there's a giant sandbar that goes out a hundred yards that could make any ship run ashore whoa cool but that's just part of it that's part of it that's a happy accident that's a happy coincidence when they start digging 1792 oh wow that's why they got seven floors yeah that's why the montauck project had seven basements seven basements underground now just west of montauk point is camp hero state park which until 1981 was an air force base called fort hero as far as why Fort Hero was built in this spot specifically, it was believed that if the Germans had decided to invade the United States during World War II, Montauk was a likely invasion point.

So, to protect from invasion, we built Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard installations at Camp Hero, then disguised the entire base to look like a New England fishing village by painting windows on the concrete bunkers and putting ornamental roofs on the barracks to fool possible German spies.

But it didn't because there were Nazi spies that landed on the beach in Montauk and then eventually went through the Long Island Railroad to the city and got caught in D.C.

It's just such a funny idea of Nazi spies in Long Island just being like, hey, what's your nice pointy hat?

Hey, what are you doing?

Huh?

Oh, hey, whoa, like he's like yelling and being like, yo, Nazi.

This is white.

Don't fuck with New Yorkers and Nazis.

All right.

Long Islanders hate Nazis.

They really do.

Even if they're racist, they'd still hate them.

It's funny.

I mean, the largest Nazi rally in American history was held at Madison Square Gardens.

Well, that was technically not on Long Island.

And that was booked from outside of town.

And there was just another one there last year.

Oh, I remember.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Now, the military base story is reasonable, but the authors of the Montauk Project maintain that Fort Hero was never just a simple outpost for protecting us from the Germans or testing torpedoes like the government wants you to believe.

Mouse thinking, not giant thinking.

Mouse thinking?

That's a new one.

That's a new one for me.

Baby thinking, baby mouse thinking.

Small fries here.

Good jeez.

As do I.

Instead, Fort Hero, prior to being the site of the Montauk Project, was also where some of the most infamous alleged military experiments in history took place, like the Phoenix Project and the Philadelphia Experiment.

So before we get into the Montauk Project proper, let's cover the the operations that supposedly led to the project's foundings.

Operations that laid the groundwork for the secret government time travel mind control experiments that came to define the conspiracy.

Yeah,

man, because that's the thing.

What they discovered, what's awesome about all of this shit, right, is that they all failed their way to something dumber.

Yeah.

Every single project was supposed to do one thing, and then it just did something else, and then they just kept giving them money to fuck up.

Because it seems like the U.S.

government, on some level, in this version of reality, are all like, Yeah, yeah,

make it invisible.

What did they do?

Oh, you think I have two heads?

Great, let's make two-headed guys.

And they're like, Fuck, this is the best way to make two-headed guys.

They're like, No, shit, I didn't even know I wanted to make two-headed guys.

Yeah, it's literally like sounds like a 12-year-old being like, I have an invisible battleship.

That's amazing.

That's like, guess what?

I believe you because I can't see it.

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So the Phoenix Project started way back in the 1940s as a simple weather control program.

Simple.

Phoenix Project was the antecedent to all the projects to come.

Eventually, though, the Phoenix Project expanded into mind-reading technology, and all of it was made possible because of the work done by the infamous Austrian pseudoscientist, Wilhelm Reich.

Can we even just cut the scientist out of it?

Pseudoscientist.

He is definitely a pseudoscientist.

Yeah.

He's still out there.

I was just watching a substack of all of his, like, there's a whole thing still of getting rid of muscle armoring.

Yeah, I mean, we've always wanted to do a full segment on Wilhelm Reich, and this seems like a good opportunity to do it.

Because Reich's sideways views on science is the ship that launched a thousand crackpots.

Because his theories can sound good if they hit your ear the right way, even if they have very little basis in scientific fact.

Basically, Wilhelm Reich had the theory that sexual energies or orgon energy, as he called it, they could be harnessed and used in everything from cancer treatment to weather control.

And there are still plenty of people who thought he was on to something.

Oh, yeah, that's right, like every once in a while, which is really nice, they send a

young lady to these various,

these brand new experimental hospitals that I've been seeing using his teachings.

And they just have the young lady.

Experimental hospitals?

Yes.

They have the young lady splack all over the faces of children with cancer.

Okay.

And it just kind of makes them forget.

That is true.

For a little bit, they feel a little better.

Just a little bit.

And they go, oh, easy's pee, easy's pee.

And they're like, no, it's squirt.

It's oregon.

Yep.

Thank you.

Concentrated oregon.

That's what the scientist says.

And that's what he thinks is all around.

William Reich also says that the Wilhelm Reich says that our energies are like an earthworm crawling through our bodies and that we have to unleash the hardened rings of our earthworm emotional selves in order to get her cum energy to our brain.

Can anyone be a pseudoscientist?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, you could be one.

You come up with a good pseudo-scientific theory.

You could be one next week.

Fuck yeah.

Yeah, dude.

No, we're going to do it.

Hell yeah.

Well, let's briefly get into the actual history of Wilhelm Reich, because his work on Oregon energy supposedly laid the bedrock for the Phoenix Project, which in turn supposedly formed the basis for the Montauk Project.

Oh, definitely did.

You could take the supposedly out of that one.

In this world.

In this world.

Now, Wilhelm Reich began his career as an Austrian psychoanalyst who studied under Sigmund Freud.

And as we all know, Freud had quite a bit to say about sex and its connection to humanity.

But since sex was very much the basis of Reich's work, Freud would warn Reich against having sexual relationships with his patients.

Reich, of course, did not listen and had four of them.

One relationship, in fact, turned into a marriage, and his wife eventually became a psychoanalyst herself.

Don't worry, my sweet young wife.

When I lay down with you in our marriage bed, my homping, it will educate you to the ability to hear others.

Oh, think of it.

You seem saddened in today's session.

Would you like a helping of my ball soup?

Would that help you very much?

If I gave you a bit of a tug on your nip?

I just think it's wonderful that a story about liars from Long Island starts with sex.

It does.

Hey, German sex.

Oh, yeah.

Now, by the early 20s, Reich was publishing articles in Germany about the idea of, quote, orgiastic potency, which was the ability to release emotions from muscles by losing yourself in an uninhibited orgasm.

Muscles was a really big thing with Wilhelm Reich.

Muscles.

By the 30s, he'd even registered as a communist because he believed that there was a link between sexual and economic oppression.

That all went south, however, when Hitler came to power in the 1930s.

Figuring that Hitler's Germany wasn't the place for a swinging sexual communist, Reich left his wife and fled to Denmark with his girlfriend in 1933 when Hitler became chancellor.

That's fucking brutal, dude.

Yeah.

I fought in Nazi Germany.

I'm gonna go fuck professionally.

From there, Reich made his way to Sweden, which he described as, quote, better than a concentration camp.

Yeah, yeah, he's definitely is.

Most places are.

Reich, however, met resistance in Sweden as well.

See, Reich was meeting his patients for their hour-long visits in his hotel room, which led local police to believe that Reich was a pimp turning out his girlfriend to a never-ending string of Swedish neurotics.

Well, by 1934, Reich had moved on to Norway, where he attempted to combine his psychological theories about orgasms with biology by exploring Freud's metaphor of the libido being an electrical or chemical substance.

Now, Freud had himself abandoned this theory 40 years earlier, but that didn't stop Wilhelm Reich from taking Freud literally.

This is one of those instances that just because someone is trained by the top minds of their field in a specific time period doesn't necessarily mean it always takes.

No, no, no, no.

Just because somebody has a degree or a doctorate does not necessarily mean that they are an intelligent person

or that you should listen to what they have to say.

There's a part of that that inspires me.

Some doctors got C's.

Oh, yeah.

Some got D's.

Yeah, there's always the bottom of the class.

There's always, you know, everyone talks about I was the third in my class.

There's also like second to bottom.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And those are the guys working on you like you're a horse.

Those are the guys that are like, let's check the hoofs.

I was turned in my class.

Reich began performing experiments by attaching a device that recorded the oscillations of electrical currents to his friends.

Then he would direct those friends to kiss and touch each other so he could take readings.

Now play with the bottom of the titties.

Very good.

The dials are going crazy.

And now play.

Let's see the feet.

Let's see.

Oh, yes, I got his feet.

Very good.

From those readings, Reich began to deduce that there was some actual separate sexual energy at play here, a heretofore unknown energy.

Reich spent years doing various experiments along these lines in Norway, but by 1938, Reich had made his way to the big time, the United States of America.

Yeah.

And within a year, Reich announced that he had discovered the very biological cosmic energy that Freud had touched upon in his own studies of human sexuality decades previous.

Reich dubbed his discovery orgon energy, and he soon after opened a new branch of science called orgonomy to study it.

I love folding paper.

It's not great for podcasts.

No, it's not.

No, the sounds are horrible.

But you know, if you guys want to fold some paper, I'll fold some paper.

He loves it.

Anything you can smoke, he'll put it right in his mouth.

Do you think that there's any comparison or anything?

Do you think that he was inspired at all?

Did you think?

No.

Do you think that he was inspired by Vril energy at all?

Vril energy?

I don't think so, because Vril Energy was very much more of a Nazi thing.

I'm just saying, I wonder if he got any of that reading too.

He may have.

It's quite possible.

The idea of sloshing around energies was a big thing inside of Germany.

Yeah, I think he may have had some influence, but he wanted to take it his own direction.

And he was very horny.

Super.

There's nothing horny about Vril energy.

No, it's all about about beating other races at the Olympics.

Now, all this sounds pretty goofy, and it is.

But Wilhelm Reich took it extremely seriously.

And once he got infected by the American entrepreneurial spirit, his experiments around Oregon energy became quite intense, even though he didn't have a license to practice medicine in the United States.

That's a real fucking American.

He showed up, he got rid of that European fucking garbage, and understood it is better sometimes to ask for forgiveness rather than ask for permission.

I'm a doctor.

That's how you know.

After finding out all he could by experimenting on animals, Reich moved on to experiments on humans in his basement.

There, he would enclose nude test subjects in five-foot-tall plywood boxes lined with rock wool and sheet iron.

These were materials that were meant to concentrate the Oregon energies.

I hope you guys are ready to get horny.

I'm going to be hitting the nails a bit harder for a little while, okay?

But you just stay here, be naked, horny, avoid splinters at all costs, because that seems to really affect your horny reading means.

Right now, I'm not horny.

Very good.

Honestly, I like you at the zero.

We need to build layers of horniness.

I feel like I'm getting less horny.

Very good.

Interesting.

I thought getting naked would make me more horny, but now I'm just scared and afraid.

Isn't that?

Which I know means the same thing, but I'm both.

Isn't that clever of me?

Well, basically, these boxes were a sort of Faraday cage, which Faraday cages are normally used to block electromagnetic fields.

Reich, however, called his boxes orgon accumulators.

Reich claimed that an orgon accumulator could grab the orgon out of the air because orgon is around us at all times.

Clouds, fuck.

Yeah, and it could transfer the orgon to the nude test subject in a concentrated dose all while he sat nude in the box.

He or she, of course.

It'll come you later.

Are you coming yet?

I'm coming.

I'm cooming later.

Are you honing yet?

Do you want me to poke some holes in the box?

What was Reich's theory that bombarding the box with Orgon energy could kill cancer and cure schizophrenia, amongst other things.

And he used these boxes on hundreds of subjects over the years.

Now, despite heavy criticism from the scientific community, and I do mean heavy criticism.

Why?

He was a doctor.

Everyone likes a quote-unquote doctor.

Wright continued his research on Orgon Energy, but eventually went too far when he opened the Orgonomic Infant Research Center in 1950.

Wow.

The OIRC, as it was called, aimed at preventing, quote, muscular armoring in children from birth.

Yes.

Organ energy, of course, was supposed to prevent so-called muscular armoring, which was bad.

It's bad.

And I suppose had something to do with negative feelings getting stuck in the muscles.

How dare you say something so simple?

Yes, it is that.

I agree.

So much stuff.

There's a certain position.

They call it the Reich.

position.

I can't do it here, obviously.

Because you have to have sex with a baby.

That's called the ending.

You have to start in a position.

You lay on your back, right?

And then muscle armoring means that, yes, your negative energies make your muscles tense.

And you have to do a series of very hidden, proprietary breathing and muscle exercises that relinquish each ring of muscles to allow, again, the cum energy to go from your pussy or balls to your spiritual center in your brain.

Not just there, but also the organ energy is around us all the time.

Yes, we've got to catch it.

And it's in the soil, too.

You can get with Faraday cages, though.

That's the problem.

You have to then yourself have a Faraday cage and an organ accumulator, and you then have to be horny.

Yeah.

And And it helps you do butt cagels.

So that's the only thing that allows me to get my butthole tighter.

Yeah.

You know what those are called?

What?

Bagels.

Funny enough.

But the problem with combining children with research that focuses on sexual energy.

Yeah, what's wrong with that?

It tends to bring out the perverts when you start advertising for job opportunities in the paper.

Honestly, I was looking at this theatre classifieds for weeks, and I just want to say thank you so much for the opportunity.

I actually have a lot of experience in this field.

I've made a lot of babies nervous.

I've made a lot of children scream.

Is there any way I can get in there?

Because my family's sick and tired of me looking for a single white male.

It's a big baby's horny.

Actually, that's kind of my special.

That's the thing.

While nobody had any allegations against Reich himself, many people later reported sexual assaults at Reich's research center, sexual assaults that were perpetrated by Reich's employees.

That's called the process.

See, Reich formed a team of 30 therapists who would stand before naked children in Reich's basement, all while Reich described each child's so-called blockages.

That kid's got the fat belly.

He's bad at baseball.

He can't skateboard.

He can't ride the bike.

He's a bad singer.

That kid, he's too serious for his own good.

And as you can see, this one loves cake too much.

Oh, I like a little chubby.

Oh, I like a chubby belly.

He must be cut off.

Well, Reich then instructed these therapists in what he called vegetotherapy, which involved, among other things, massaging the children.

Oh, I'll be right up, Chilly, for that.

I brought my own oil.

Reich's Institute, however, lasted for a surprisingly long period, two years.

But it was finally shut down after a parent reported that one of Reich's therapists had taught her five-year-old son how to masturbate.

And the charges were only dropped after Reich agreed to shutter the institute's doors.

Maybe we need to slow down the research.

God, imagine like

if I knew how to masturbate at five, I'd be a useless human being.

That looked like I started, though.

What?

Yeah.

At five?

Yeah, I went real early.

That's five's early.

I figured it out, yeah.

That's crazy.

Boy will figure it out.

You don't need to teach a boy.

A boy's got all he needs is his hands, his penis, and a couple of TV guts.

He doesn't need a William Reich.

He doesn't need an instructor.

I mean, William Reich did have his boys and his therapists to help out.

And by the way, the Sean Connery joke from Celebrity Jeopardy saying the therapist or the rapist really works here.

It really does.

It really does.

It does.

Well, eventually, the people who took Reich down for good were the FDA because they began taking issue with all the bogus claims Reich was making about his Oregon accumulators.

Turns out, no proof they actually worked.

Reich, in turn, accused the FDA of being.

wait a second.

What about all the kids I made horny?

Wait a second.

I have that adult.

I have several naked adults in a federal digital.

What do you mean it's not working?

Reich, in turn, accused the FDA of being government hoodlums, and he was soon after arrested for violating an order to not ship organ accumulators or their parts across state lines.

Wilhelm Reich was therefore sentenced to two years in prison and actually died in Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary in 1957 from a heart attack.

Oh, yes, the home of the rape therapist.

It's kind of funny because, you know, a lot of people were inspired by him, but I actually didn't know he died in prison.

He died in prison.

Yeah.

It seems to be, to me, I feel like that would be a black mark on the

research history.

It usually is, but the problem is that Wilhelm Reich lives on the fringes.

And people who live on the fringes, you know, stuff like this is a badge of honor.

Oh, yeah.

You know, and it also, the stuff about Wilhelm Reich, look, it really does go back into the idea of conspiracy theory and distrusting the government and all that shit, because these people that believe in Wilhelm Reich's theories, they're often the same type of people who don't believe in vaccines.

Oh, but they can point towards the FDA as like, look at this evil, this evil branch of government.

They went in and they destroyed this good man who was just trying to make our babies horny and healthy.

That's it.

All a baby wanted, all he wanted was the baby to get super horny so you can give it the power to time travel.

Yeah.

That's it.

He was the inventor of the Wilhelm cream.

The Wilhelm cream is

actually what they first used to help the children learn how to masturbate.

Yeah.

There's a bunch of kids going, ah!

It is rough.

I see what you're saying because you're it.

It's the truth.

He's a

it's hard.

Everybody kind of took it around with it.

Oh, where we're at right now in American history and world history when it comes to all this shit.

Like this is stuff that's been accumulating, excuse the term, but it's been accumulating for decades upon decades upon decades, damn near a century now.

Literally, I just typed in Wilhelm Reich processes and the amount of current substacks of people actively teaching Reich stuff in 2025 is very interesting.

And it just shows we just are, we're still in it.

Yeah.

And it's what, 75 years later?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But despite Wilhelm's claims that the government was out to get him because of his oregon accumulators it is said that the phoenix project the antecedent to the montauk project they used wilhelm reich's theories about oregon as the basis for weather manipulation amongst other things see according to reich the other side of oregon energy is that it was also responsible for bad weather Dead Organ was said to be found in thunderstorms and hurricanes.

And in the 40s, Reich supposedly invented a device called a cloudbuster that could either build up Orgon energy in the air or disrupt dead Orgon through broadcast.

And broadcast is going to be a very important thing for the Montauk project.

Oh, yes,

it is the most radar-based thing possible.

The theory goes that Project Phoenix was partly about controlling the weather using Reich's Orgon technology.

Now, according to our whistleblowers, Reich's technology actually worked, but the government abandoned the project because it would open them up to lawsuits if their ability to control the weather was made public.

Who's going to fucking sue them?

Is the weather going to sue them?

No, people whose buildings are destroyed by thunderstorms that were possibly, you know, created by the government.

Why does the government fucking care

about that ever once?

They really don't.

They don't give a shit about that.

If they wanted to control the weather, they definitely would.

Yes, and it wouldn't be this bad.

No,

they would.

It would be.

Well, you know, they did talk about that.

We might actually, though, have an earthquake weapon.

Oh, really?

There is some talk that we might have an earthquake weapon, and it's very different.

It literally has to be like drilled into the ground.

It's like a whole thing.

It's Kwame from Captain Planet.

Yes.

Was that the one?

No, he's Hart.

No, Kwame was

the guy, the African guy, right?

Yeah,

who's the other one?

That would be Mumbatu.

No,

absolutely not.

Richard.

Richard.

Richard.

Yeah.

Richard Mati.

Mati.

He was the dumb one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guess what?

Hart didn't do jack shit, Mati.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Am I totally crazy?

I thought there was some truth to cloud busting.

Yeah, maybe.

I mean, it's cloud seeding.

Yeah.

You know, they do that with kind of when in all of the weird chemtrail conspiracy theories, there's a lot of weather manipulation in that, too.

We can make rain.

We can make rain.

but I feel like it's not.

I don't care if we can, though.

Yes, we can cloud it.

Why not do it over Los Angeles?

Because I think it's extremely unpredictable and it fucks with weather patterns.

And I think that's why they don't do it.

I think it's also really expensive as well.

I imagine.

And I imagine also it might like poison us over time.

Maybe.

Who knows?

Yeah.

Side stories L-PO-TLAGmail.com because that's actually there is a whole world of legit weather manipulation that's been around.

It's just what that's the fun thing about conspiracy theory is that stuff like this really does cloud effectively stuff that might actually be real.

That's what's that's why they like these being out on the internet.

Yeah, you sound like a nimbus right now.

Tell me now.

You bet the I'm about to cumulus all over your fucking forehead.

But weather control was not the only goal behind Project Phoenix.

See, while Reich had fled Germany to avoid Nazi persecution, the U.S.

government, during Project Phoenix, allegedly combined his Orgon technology with Nazi psychological research to develop psychic computers.

Wow, yeah.

As to what a psychic computer is.

Yeah, what is it?

No, no, no.

A psychic computer is totally different from AI.

Fucking Christ, man.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Totally different.

It's so fucking different.

It's so fucking different.

It makes you want to scream.

No!

It could be.

When it grows up at him.

Well, a psychic computer.

Peter Moon claimed that sensor technology was developed in the 50s that could use a computer to display what a person was thinking on a mind-reading machine.

It was said that Congress, however, once again got cold feet.

Supposedly, they were afraid that the psychic computers could be used to control congressmen.

So they shut down this portion of Project Phoenix as well.

Now, the man allegedly behind the Phoenix project was a Hungarian scientist named Dr.

John von Neumann.

Von Neumann was actually a very real mathematician, one of the most well-respected and accomplished in history.

He contributed to the development of quantum physics, digital computers, big part of the Manhattan Project.

And I invented the yo-yo!

Get out of here, Dr.

Von Don Mouman!

And the yo-yo, man!

You want to take, so this conspiracy is already sullying this incredible mind, and you want to sully him even further by claiming he invented the yo-yo.

I will say anything I want about that fucking piece of shit.

I will attack him wholeheartedly, and I hate him, and I hate his family, and I wish I could dig up his grave and play with his bones.

You can, it's just put you in prison.

Hey, you know, maybe I want to go.

Three hots in a cot.

But according to author Peter Moon, Dr.

John von Neumann was also one of the minds behind the Phoenix Project, and the government therefore brought back Dr.

Von Neumann and the rest rest of his team to Montauk Point when the next big military experiment was cooked up in the late 40s.

The next iteration was known as Project Rainbow, but some of you might know it better as the Philadelphia Experiment.

It took place in Montauk on the very spot where the Montauk project would also be developed.

Now the Philadelphia Experiment was an alleged top-secret World War II era project that had the initial goal of rendering a battleship invisible to enemy radar by creating an electromagnetic bottle that diverted radar waves around the ship.

Which sounds fairly reasonable.

It sounds like that could be a thing that might be done.

Possible.

But it's, you know, apparently it's very difficult and it turns you into a bunch of jello.

Well, according to the legend, the Philadelphia experiment went awry when the battleship used in the experiment, the USS Eldridge, turned invisible, then suddenly reappeared in Norfolk, Virginia, 600 miles south of Montauk Point.

And we also have a whole series on this from many years ago, and we covered this very thickly.

Technically, that's what's awesome about our lives and how long we've been doing this is that that series connects to this series, which MK Ultra lies on top of it.

JFK is right after it.

Well, supposedly, the surviving crew on board the Eldridge were found, at best, confused and disoriented.

At worst, some sailors found themselves fused into the bulkheads of the ship itself as a result of the unintended consequence of teleportation.

Well, you know that Nikola Tesla was told ahead of time by the aliens that he was conversing with that when he was working on the Philadelphia experiment, that they said that they would kill the participants in the experiment.

So, Nikola Tesla, on the first one of the Philadelphia experiment, actually threw it so it wouldn't work because he knew that the aliens would be mad about it.

And so then

Nikola Tesla, instead of getting fired, he said, I quit.

Nikola Tesla, in the year 1943.

Yep.

How was he there?

He was there spiritually,

but also physically, because time is non-linear.

Tom Tyne, he worked on the first Philadelphia experiment.

When was that?

Before this one.

1776.

And I guess we're still seeing the results of it.

Well, as for the sailors who were just confused.

You're just going to move on.

Yeah, but of course, well, you're the one.

You interrupted me right in the middle of it before we could.

Are there any pictures of this?

Pictures of what?

The invisible battleship?

The people fused to

the battlefield.

No, that would be just, that's evidence.

Okay.

But that would be bad for the government to have, so that's why they destroyed it.

What about those soldiers?

And their families?

Most of them died a year after the Philadelphia experiment.

Effects for those that went on to work on the Montauk experience.

Is that true?

Yes.

Wow.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah.

Well, as for those who were just confused and destroyed.

He was in Long Island.

Nikola Tesla went to Long Island.

Fine.

Look out.

A lot of people.

It's not fucking Tora Bora.

It's Long Island.

It's right next to New York City.

Yeah, Brooklyn is technically Long Island.

Sorry.

Well, as for the sailors who were just confused and disoriented as a result of the Philadelphia experiment, many had to be discharged from service and rehabilitated because the experience was so traumatic.

And it's said that most never recovered from the total mental breakdown that the experiment caused.

Now, officially, Project Rainbow was halted after this supposed accident, but according to Peter Moon, the Philadelphia experiment was only the beginning of what went on at Montauk Point.

Supposedly, Dr.

Von Neumann and his team spent 10 years studying the effects that the Philadelphia experiment had on human bodies, and specifically the human brain.

Eventually, it's said that they learned that humans are born with a time reference point, which they claimed was the basic orientation point each person has that connects them to the universe and the way the universe operates.

It's like you have like a serial number.

Yeah, yeah.

Or a birth date.

Not, no.

Okay.

Thank you.

Right.

Yeah.

Fucking got it.

But no, I would say it's more like a barcode.

You know, it's like a barcode, like you scan the barcode and the barcode gives you information.

Okay.

But if the time reference point is changed, as it was with the crew of the USS Eldridge when the Philadelphia experiment hurtled them through time and space, then those who experience a change in reference point can suffer from extreme psychic trauma.

The way Peter Moon put it, a human's energy is attached to a timeline in this universe.

But the Project Rainbow technology created an artificial, separate reality that was completely different from our own timeline, which is how the ship and the men aboard were able to travel through time and space and turn invisible.

They hopped over to the artificial reality, then came back to ours.

But when the men of the USS Eldras were sent to that artificial timeline, they received energy from the wrong universe.

And the inability to sync with that energy caused the widespread insanity.

It's sort of like the barcode.

It's like if you

pop it and you get the wrong type of reader, then it's not going to work.

Yes.

And then you're stuck in it.

They tried to just do it with it.

So again, the long short of whatever the actual Philadelphia experiment was that they were supposed to use electromagnetic field.

They thought that's what was going to be just kind of a more an innocent way.

So they weren't actually invisible, it was more of like there was magnets protecting them from radar, exactly.

But and and physical light, so you could not look see it while you were looking at it.

But accidentally, they sent it to another timeline.

And the only thing that you can do to end that timeline is to close the loop and bring them back because everyone's on their own timeline.

That means you don't actually affect the future because the future is actually your singular view of the future.

You, each one of us has a proprietary timeline that we are all on and cannot escape from.

Yeah, unless someone goes back in time and fucks with the entire timeline.

No, but that's only for you.

But that doesn't make any sense.

It does.

Sure.

Now the um

but that's what they say about this.

How long did it take for in Project Rainbow for the USS Eldridge to reappear from Montauk to Virginia?

It was instantaneous.

It was instantaneous to pop.

Yeah.

That's true.

It went and then it showed up in Norfolk, Virginia with all these dudes stuck inside of the hull.

Now, supposedly, Dr.

Von Neumann petitioned Congress for funding to figure out ways to prevent insanity when using Project Rainbow technology.

But Congress, ever the scaredy cats in this story, they turned down the proposal out of fear of what would happen if the technology fell into the wrong hands.

Meanwhile, we had the Manhattan Project.

We had all this fucking shit.

It was just so funny to think that Congress would ever say no to new weapons.

That is the funniest part.

That is the most implausible part of all of this story.

Yes.

Project Rainbow and Project Phoenix were then supposedly folded into the military, who were particularly excited to get their hands on a piece of radar equipment used in Project Phoenix called the Sage Array.

Now, the Sage Array is a very real thing.

It actually still exists on Long Island in Camp Hero State Park as a part of the remaining structure of the military base.

But in Peter Moon's world, the Sage Array operated in a frequency window that could break in to human consciousness.

Yeah.

So once the military had the Sage array, they refocused the project towards mind control and psychic powers, thus beginning Phoenix Project 2, better known by the much catchier name of the Montauk Project.

Well, you know why it fed directly in?

Was part of the way they said the cloud busters would work is from people pinging Oregon energy off of the receptors inside of the floating cloud busters.

Yeah.

So what they said is this began, so it started as this weather manipulation thing.

And they saw they started using psychic connection and using Oregon energy.

And eventually they're like, now that we know that the brain, you can hack into human consciousness by, according to this, these rules, by getting on the same frequency that is coming out of our brains.

That is what allows you to see our thoughts onto a television screen.

That's what they use, right?

But then they're like, well, if we can see in, why can't we also talk to it directly?

Why can't we just go right into the center of somebody's brain, which is then the second layer?

Now, as I said, Congress reportedly refused to fund any of this stuff.

But the authors of the Montauk Project book claimed that they were told by so-called Montauk acquaintances that the entire operation was funded by what else but mountains of Nazi gold.

Cool.

Allegedly, during World War II, a train carrying 10 billion in Nazi gold was traveling through a tunnel in France when the whole thing blew up.

The cause of the explosion was a mystery, and the gold was never officially recovered.

But according to the whistleblowers, that $10 billion in Nazi gold was used to fund the Montauk project for years.

AC, you got a pile of Nazi gold there.

That's kind of nice.

It's kind of nice.

You ever had any Nantucket green?

Come on.

It's the worst weed I ever had.

You're going to be so thankful.

You're going to be so thankful.

You're not going to get scared smoking it.

You got to try it.

Okay.

Great.

Hey, you know, I'm just an acquaintance.

I'm not here to fucking tell you what to do with your fucking life.

I'm just saying I see you with a pile of Nazi gold.

And I actually, I got this little boy I want to make psychic.

I don't want any Montauk acquaintances.

I don't want any fucking Massa Piqua consequences.

You don't fucking know what I can bring to the friendship.

You don't know.

Take that back.

Oh, taking that back.

Oh, I guess all I got to do is just go spend a weekend in Massapiqua.

Oh, maybe you got it.

Maybe you don't know what you're missing, you fucking Maluk.

You know what I'm missing?

Montauk Project.

I'm missing diners.

That's all I'm missing.

We all are.

But the best diners in America.

All in Long Island.

And so, by the early 1970s, the Montauk project was in full swing and had expanded to performing experiments on humans, animals, and aliens.

You didn't think that was going to happen off?

Ah, and I do realize that the alien part here does take a bit of explanation.

Not for me.

Just accepting.

Just ready to believe.

See, according to the authors of the Montauk Project, the first treaty between an alien civilization and the U.S.

government was signed in 1913, while the second treaty came a few decades later in the mid-40s.

These aliens who signed this treaty with the United States government were known as the K-group.

And from what I can tell, these were the more benevolent aliens.

Alarmed by the development of atomic weaponry, the K-group promised an exchange of alien technology in return for our abandonment of nuclear technology.

But when the U.S.

government inevitably broke the treaty, the K-group pulled out of the agreement.

The K-group were soon replaced in the early 50s by the Regelian Greys.

The Regelian Greys.

Yeah, and the Regelian Greys were far more evil and not at all concerned with humanity blowing ourselves up.

These are your classic alien grays.

The grays' only concern was a steady supply of bodies on which to experiment.

And as long as we kept serving up bodies, they keep giving us technology.

As far as the K-group goes, I would imagine that it's K-group aliens that are experimented upon in the deepest reaches of the Montauk Project facility.

Although that's just wild fucking speculation on my part.

I mean, it's as good as any.

So, 1913,

we sign a treaty with aliens.

This is important important to know.

This is true, the backbone of a lot of aliens.

We sit after Kitty Hawk.

Oh, very much so.

We're signing treaties with aliens.

Yes.

Okay.

So we're barely in the air ourselves.

No, then we met aliens.

They said we can make a trial.

Well, how do you think we got into the air after Kitty Hawk, man?

Fucking, because of the fucking, because of the breeze in North Carolina.

Nah, man, I'm talking about the big fucking jumps.

These big jumps.

Big jumps.

Because everyone says, like, oh, isn't humanity so fucking incredible that we went from Kitty Hawk to the moon in 60 years?

Oh, did we do that?

Or did we trade our souls to the aliens for that technology?

Marcus gets it.

I mean, it's just gas, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We just said that.

It was mostly just science.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Physics.

No, this is a, but this is a part that in the 1940s, when it was the Gaeta Treaty, that was like, you know, we're talking about with Eisenhower.

It's called the Gaeta Treaty.

Okay.

Yeah.

And it's actually not.

That's an asshole.

With Eisenhower, that's the 50s.

Well, yeah, I was one of them.

It's one of these fucking fucking pieces of shit.

Just keep it a timeline, right?

They knew about 9-11.

They said nothing.

Eisenhower knew about 9-11.

He's a Long Island base.

He's a Long Island base.

Aliens.

They knew 9-11 was coming and they did nothing.

Well, I mean, Eisenhower did somewhat presage the war on terror, that if we, you know, he did make his famous speech, that if we were to put money into the military-industrial complex, then war itself would become a business, and therefore never-ending war would be a consequence.

So, in a way, and all I know is I'm just glad that that speech fixed everything.

And he just was like, all right, done.

Just warning you that the whole thing I just created might kill you all.

I'm going to go hang out in Camp David and I'm going to masturbate in front of my wife.

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Now, considering the works of Wilhelm Reich, it's probably not a surprise that one of the Montauk project's most infamous operations involved a group of children and teenagers.

These kids, programmed with psychosexual mind control techniques,

came to be known as the Montauk Boys.

Yay!

Yay!

Yay!

We're ready to go!

Suck my dicks.

Have me space.

Yeah, I'm gonna go out the ground and I wanna suck all these dicks.

Listen, I don't like the molestation, but if it gets me to Saturn, start fiddling.

Come on, let's go.

Pop open my pates.

Come on.

It is a small price to pay for acknowledge.

It really is.

Me, this is my buddy Tucky.

I'm over here.

My name's Jonesy.

This is Butchie.

Remember this whole thing.

Stranger Things should have been played by the people that were in Lords of Flatbush.

It was not supposed to be Millie Bobby Brown.

Millie Bobby Brown is not a Montauk boy.

Yeah, they put that in the middle of America.

They definitely changed the entire tone of the project.

Oh, yeah, no, it should have been two kids with a stick ball, like a whole get-up, a guy flipping flipping a coin.

That's what these are.

It's little boys that are.

It's the 1970s.

There weren't kids in Long Island playing stickball in the 1970s.

I played stickball.

Do you know what stickball is?

Yeah,

what is stickball?

It's baseball over the broom handle.

Yeah, I played it in Queens as a little kid.

Yeah, it's just like a racketball.

It's a very New York thing.

It's a very New York thing.

But you can't go to the field.

You know, you got to play it in the street.

Yeah, stickball.

You play it in the street.

I played it with a broomstick.

That's fine.

Yeah.

I was like a little boy one time.

I was like really out there.

A little boy in Queens playing sickball.

Hey, oh, ow, yo.

Look at that guy.

Jake Robinson.

Supposedly, groups of young boys and teenagers.

By the way, when you say look at that guy,

audience can't see that.

Audience can't see it.

I know it's right in front of us, but we're not doing this for us.

Well, you know, we are, though, in a way.

Think of that guy.

Fixed it.

Think of it.

Supposedly, groups of young boys and teenagers were abducted from all around Long Island by the regalian gray aliens, and those boys were then delivered to the Montauk Project.

Once there, they were separated into three groups by age, six to twelve, thirteen to sixteen, and seventeen to twenty-two.

Shithead?

Bigger shithead.

Problem.

Yeah.

Society's issue.

Yes.

The youngest group was placed into two subgroups, one for genetic manipulation and one for mind control.

Those who were genetically manipulated would stay on the base, while the mind control group would be reprogrammed and sent back out into society to hold various high-powered positions as lawyers and politicians.

How are you doing?

It's me, new Senator Bucci Samsonetti.

How are you doing?

Yeah, my wife from Long Island.

You're ready to have me.

I want to make sure we're playing everybody's handballs mandatory.

All right, everybody, who wants a soft pretzel?

Anybody want to kill some turkeys?

Come on, why don't you do that?

Come on.

Well, these mind-controlled Montauk boys were thereafter sleeper agents who could be activated by the government at any time to form gangs of vigilantes who could eliminate enemies of the government.

Yeah.

An army of 14-year-olds fighting the governments.

Isn't that what we use the Klan for?

At one point, yeah.

Now, these weren't armies fighting against the government.

These were people, these are armies of 14-year-olds or

older.

No, fighting Americans, like killing people that were threats, killing people like you and me.

Hey, I dare you, Montauk boys.

Because I'll flip you there.

I'll dare you, Montauk boys.

I'll flip.

I do not dare the Montauk boys.

I don't either.

We're going to get you in there.

We're all going to sit and listen to Movin' Out together.

We didn't start the fire.

We have to remember that and stay strong, okay?

The middle group, 13 to 16, would also be subject to genetic and mind control manipulation, but these boys were reintroduced into society as so-called disruptors.

These disruptors worked on the opposite side of the fence, spearheading satanic movements and other similar cults to subvert society when it needed to be subverted.

The oldest Montauk boys, however, were simply used as slave workers.

But Montauk boys of all ages could be pulled into Montauk experiments at any time if the scientists at the Montauk project needed a boy for whatever reason.

That's when they became Montauk men.

Yeah.

When they had to start working.

Well, also, they're 18.

The oldest boys, they are Montauk men.

They were legally.

Legally, yes.

They're very much Montauk men.

But it's more of a title.

Also, if you have all this Nazi gold, why make them slaves?

Just pay workers.

Because that's what paying, you're paying for the radar.

You're paying for the comeback.

10 billion.

You're paying for the William Green

that you have to use on the boys.

10 10 billion goes away really quickly.

And it's seven floors deep, dude.

It's concrete and shovels.

Yeah, it's fucking super expensive, man.

These dumbs are fucking expensive, dog.

It's also a part of the experiment because you got to experiment to see if you can turn a very rebellious 19-year-old Long Island boy into a slave.

I'll tell you what, with the Nazi gold, a little Long Island boy will do anything you ask him.

I tell you what.

Then he's an employee.

Rob knows how you make a Long Island boy a slave.

He's just going to make some random Montauk girl pregnant.

He is just going to be living there for the rest of his life in a Billy Joel saw.

And they're all getting pushed out by the rich.

I know, I know.

It's finding to be.

Long Island's wonderful.

I know some Hampton and Montauk locals and men, they're fucked.

They can't afford their own homes anymore.

Not too bad.

Yeah, that's why we need a bunch of disruptors to go in there and ruin these neighborhoods.

They might have something here.

As far as how the Montauk Project Mind Control Program worked, the programmers focused on boys ages 9, 14, and 19, because those ages were considered peak points for mind control manipulation.

That's what the Paul brothers are doing.

Yeah.

First, the boys would be placed in a room naked.

Yes.

Where radio electronics would be placed on their genitals.

Hey, you might want to need an extra set of those, all right?

These balls could talk.

They say something like, get me out of these pants, I'm dying.

Then a series of Pavlovian dog tests would be forced upon the boys until they were mentally and physically broken enough to accept new consciousnesses.

And these tests were supposedly intense enough where many boys died in the process.

Funny?

You got nothing to say about that?

Just a slight giggle to many boys dying in the process.

Any of those like random Long Island boys exploding and just being like, God damn it.

We're going to need more boys.

Somebody, fuck these women.

We're going to have to go out there.

Someone get me a softball team.

Is there a roller hockey rink around here?

Call up the Greys.

We need another shipment of boys.

Excellent.

So I was talking to, I have a

friend who, their father grew up in Long Island.

We're still close.

And I called him before the show to ask, like, what he knew about.

He grew up in the Hamptons in Montauk.

So what he knows about any of this.

And I was like, did boys go missing constantly in the 60s and 70s?

And he's like, I've never heard of that once.

What's funny is that in this time period,

every single heavy hitter that we've covered that was a mass killer of children,

every police officer was so certain that there were just bands of runaway boys and girls that were just running everywhere like they were the lost boys in Neverland and like the Foot clan and shit.

And it's just, I just think it was just harder to find boys.

Well, they were.

I mean, kids were running away from home quite a bit in the 60s and 70s, but the cops unfortunately tended to use that as an excuse to not investigate anything,

even when the evidence was sitting right in front of them.

Like Dean Coral, for example, he was the most famous example in, you know, in Houston in the 1970s, you know, killed 30, 27 boys, 29, something like that.

Forever 27.

Teenagers, yeah, for he was, yeah, until one of the boys killed him.

Hell yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

One of the boys that was helping him kill other boys ended up killing him when Dean Coral tried to kill the boy.

But it was also because Dean Coral might have been involved in a gigantic national network of making children's sexual exploitation material and using that.

And the cops might have been on that, those Rolodexes.

Maybe.

And that's where we get the expression coral anal bleaching.

Thank you.

Yes.

Actually.

Wow.

I never actually never heard of coral anal bleaching.

It's a bleaching that gets it to a nice pink.

A pink.

Because I don't like it.

When they blow mine out to fully phantom white.

Phantom white, yeah.

I don't like that because you're pink.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

I want it to see the Polish.

I don't want it to just become, because then when my butthole is too clean, too pure, it's kind of.

Oh, you want a piggy hole?

Yes.

Because then it gets Uncanny Valley.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm bleaching mine until it's clear.

Wow.

Yeah.

I want to see what's coming, man.

I stain mine.

But

deep, dark clay brown.

Oh, nice.

But also, mine is that's where I see my little time travel ID number is right on the rim.

You want to see?

6969696.

420.

The other side of these tests on the Montauk boys was that scientists could use alien radio technology to pick up patterns of fear and hopelessness.

And some of these Montauk boys were supposedly killed at the height of their fear so they could be harvested by the Regellian gray aliens while they were full of adrenaline.

And that hopelessness was piped through in them through their mothers.

Yes.

Yes.

Rob, how much did you're long island mother?

Hopelessness or hopefulness?

Somewhere in between.

All right, go ahead.

There you go.

But, you know, this whole concept of making boys afraid before you kill them to make sure you got the maximum amount of adrenaline, this was all written about 1992.

It's decades before it was repurposed into QAnon lore with montauk it's satanic panic myths with aliens replacing satanists combined with mk ultra where with qannon you've still got the government collaboration except it's democrats and celebrities and the deep state replacing the aliens and who lives in montauk now Democrats and celebrities.

Wow.

Wow.

Think about it.

Coming for you.

Who's else is there?

It's Billy Joel.

Who else is there?

Everybody's there, man.

Montauk?

How's in the Hamptons, yeah?

The Hamptons and Montauk.

Woody Allen's there.

I guess it would be considered the Hamptons.

Oh, yeah, Scarlett Johans.

Yeah, everybody's out there, man.

De Niro.

These people are ruining Long Island.

It's supposed to be for the fat and us.

Oh, the middle is still very fat.

Oh, I know.

It's supposed to be for my people.

It's not supposed to be for these fancies.

Gwyneth Poucher is too skinny.

She's not going to fucking, she's not going to know what good local dirty Chinese is.

Also, I will say another thing about the mind control control and all that.

Montauk and the Hamptons is like a mecca for Lyme disease.

Yes.

Interesting.

Because the real conspiracy about Lyme being generated by the government disease out of the Montauk project, which is a whole other thing.

Yeah, that's

a whole other series.

It's a big side quest.

Plum Island Island.

Yeah, yeah.

Now,

I'm sure

that all of this seems pretty intense so far.

But while we've already covered MK Ultra-style experiments, invisible battleships, and treaties between the government and alien civilizations, we've just started to scratch the surface on the Montauk project.

Now, the reason why we know about all of this in detail is because the man who co-authored Peter Moon's eponymous book about the conspiracy, he was also a scientist who claimed to have been a part of the Montauk project for over a decade.

This supposed whistleblower's name was Preston Nichols.

And if you believe everything Preston had to say, which is asking a lot, he lived quite possibly one of the most interesting lives in human history.

Preston Nichols is a pure example of an old school.

I sent the boys the oldest school possible three-hour long documentary called Montauk Survivors, which was a VHS filmed talk between Al Bielick, Duncan Cameron, and Preston Nichols in just a house, right?

And I sent it to you just so you could get a taste of what conspiracy theory used to be like.

You can see the wives weren't there because they probably were never gotten married.

I think that they were disappeared.

They were disappeared.

But Preston Nichols is the ultimate example of this man has said so many different lies, different stuff, different conspiracy theories that I, to this day, I have no idea what he did.

I didn't know really what he like what I don't know what was real or what was not was real.

And that's technically a compliment.

Yeah.

I'm like, because that is a, that's awesome.

He's a true, for to be a fat fuck from Long Island and become a mystery is awesome.

Yeah, I tried figuring it out too.

Yeah, I had no idea what his real profession was throughout life.

You know, he didn't really start coming out and talking about all this stuff until he was what, in his 40s or 50s, something like that.

Yeah.

So as far as like what Preston Nichols was before he became an author that was published by the same house as Behold the Pale Horse, he's big question mark.

Yeah, is he the guy who like claimed he was like an engineer that went to University of Tampa, but then he actually didn't go to the University of Tampa?

Yes, this is one of the things that he said, yes.

Okay, cool.

But that's not his most illustrious credit.

Preston Nichols said that he was an electrical engineer and an inventor.

He sadly left this world in 2018, but the story he imparted before his passing is an incredible one.

And it was told, as Preston put it, despite brainwashing and threats to silence him.

Supposedly, Preston Nichols discovered the truth behind the the Montauk project while doing telepathy research with psychics in the mid-80s.

He had found that psychics were having their powers suppressed by radio waves, and eventually he traced those waves directly to Montauk Point.

Preston Nichols, however, soon discovered the truth behind the truth, behind the lies, behind the truth, behind the lies,

and figured out that he himself had been a key figure in the Montauk project, but his memories had been wiped after the project was shut down using technology of his own making.

Can I ask a question?

Sure.

If his memories were wiped by himself, how would he remember that?

He was also a powerful hypnotist.

See, he could hypnotize himself and other people.

And he also asked other people, and there were many people that told him many things.

And also, he asked this other guy that we're going to get into next episode.

And this other guy, Duncan Cameron, he could commune with aliens and channel with aliens.

And these aliens were also some of the ones that worked with the Montauk project.

And these aliens all told Preston Cameron a lot of stuff, who told

this guy Preston Nichols a lot of stuff.

And then Preston Nichols is like, oh, yeah, that's definitely what happened.

So Preston Nichols remembered nothing, but someone told him that he did this.

And he was like, yeah.

No, what happened?

Well, then

it all came flooding back, right?

And then we have the real actually explanation right here, Marcus.

Okay.

Now, according to Preston's co-author, Peter Moon, Preston occupies non-linear space,

which means that he is operating on a consciousness not regulated by linear thought.

Can't be controlled, can't be contained, man.

Therefore, his memories and experiences do not always conform to linear application.

Yeah, dude, like taxes and work.

Which is a nice way of saying that it appears as if he's lying quite often.

It's hard for him not to lie.

He was put into two separate spaces because time isn't real.

Okay, and reality isn't real.

Additionally, Preston himself wrote that while people have been quick to call his writing science fiction, that does not make him unhappy because he is aware that what he writes about is controversial.

Not many people are ready to accept what I have to say and the types of truths that I have, because the truths sometimes are so confusing and they're so not real that you'd be crazed to think that it's not the truth, but actually, the truth can be not real.

Reality not being real is a very contradictory sentence.

Exactly.

It sounds like some fat guy's getting it.

Are you not real, too?

Because I ain't real.

I'm not fucking real except when I'm ordering my pizza, and then I'm fucking present.

You show up with that fucking shit.

That's some linear application I will fucking apply to.

Well, Preston Nichols also claims that his work has been ripped off by Hollywood countless times for TV shows and movies.

It has.

Although the Hollywood elites have done it quite cleverly, so as to make lawsuits difficult, if not impossible.

also i'm a bit not liquid at the moment yeah specifically preston claimed that the shows farscape and sliders were both based off his work they definitely were sliders yeah i'm fucking this is sliders dude no this is not slid this is kind of sliders this is sliders if they if there were actual sliders involved the sandwiches yeah

this is a this is a legitimate like this is sliders no sliders is jerry o'connell is a brilliant science student in his working in in his basement.

Place him with Preston Nichols.

That's who it's supposed to be.

That's not it.

No, you just cut me off before I can tell the actual story, which is nowhere near Preston Nichols' actual story.

Yes, with Jerry O'Connell.

Jerry O'Connell.

Tiny burger.

No, he built.

He built a dimensional hopping device in his basement, and then he somehow brought in his professor,

the girl that he worked with at the store, and a random soul singer who happened to just be driving by at the time.

And then they started hopping dimensions together using the sliding device.

I knew you're talking about sliders, but Rob's just put up a bunch of pictures of actual sliders.

Yeah.

And I'm actually super hungry.

Just look at it.

That's actually a great looking 77

sliders in so long.

There should be more sliders around.

When we go to Detroit, we should go to the, there is an entire, there's a restaurant that only serves sliders.

Really?

And no different meats.

Fuck yes.

Yeah, buddy.

That's what I'm saying.

This is the best part of this whole episode.

Oh, yeah.

Let's cut it now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Talk about slides.

Start talking about potato skits.

But before we get into Preston Nichols' biography completely, I will warn you that it does sort of feel, his autobiography, it does sort of feel like talking to an annoying friend who tries to one-up everything you say with a story that's 10 times more impressive and clearly untrue at every turn.

He's the type of person that I honestly can't stand, that does the thing where he corrects you on something so minute in a bunch of in a sea of other garbage, right?

It was like a whole thing where like I was in the middle of this three-hour thing.

They're having this like long, dumb conversation about how like USS Eldridge is, is it more, is it considered a battleship or stuff?

And he has to go like, uh,

smokes Vex, it's a destroyer.

And you're like, fuck you, man, it's not real.

It's like, shut up.

Stop trying to fucking just, because you're log jamming for no reason.

So did the eldritch, no one knows where the eldritch is now?

No, the eldritch, uh i believe it existed i believe it was a real battleship they had to pull it apart

they had to pull it apart yeah and they had to uh the uh do the other parts because obviously all the boys were trapped in it so they had to pull it apart and they used that steel for other things

well now from what it seems like Preston Nichols saw himself as somewhat chosen for high strangeness, as he described having his first encounter with aliens when he was just five or six years old.

He saw many more UFOs over the years and tried to capture them on film and camera, but he he claimed that each time the footage would go missing or it would corrupt itself.

This, Preston believed, was proof that the government had had him under surveillance since childhood.

Now, Preston was a sickly child, but all of Preston's health problems, including cerebral palsy, disappeared at around the age of 17.

I grew up out of it.

I just, well, honestly, I was over it.

I was so sick of it.

I was like, oh, I'm stiff.

You know what?

I'm going to stretch.

Next thing you know, I'm fine.

Through later hypnotic regression, Preston came to realize that he had been cured of all his ills when the alien race known as the Pleiadians took him to their home planet of Alderon for medical treatment and education.

He said that along with the disappearance of his health problems, he suddenly had a mastery of electronics and a so-called guiding voice appeared in his head.

It was suddenly available to give him answers to any question he had.

Answer me a question.

Ask me a question.

I got the little voice in my head that answers everything.

It's easy.

What's the pie recipe down at Basta Bongi's?

Oh, well, first thing you need to flower, and you need to, first of all, go fuck yourself trying to even steal that secret recipe.

Because now I know you're trying to catch me, Slugworth.

That's what this is.

You're Slugworth, aren't you?

Yeah, you're fucking.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm Slugworth.

I'm sorry, I'm Slugworth.

Don't you make me driven straight, Willie Walker.

Now,

what type of UFOs UFOs did the Palladians use?

Big ones.

Cool.

Cool.

Badam big if you're filled with Palladians.

Yeah, yeah.

Super long way, lotto deaths.

And where are the Palladians from?

The Pleiades system.

From the planet of Alderon.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

From Alderon.

Yeah.

And that is where?

Star Wars.

The Pleiades system.

Yeah, the Pleiades system out in the Spiral Arm Betelgeuse.

Betelgeuse.

I think something.

Betelgeuse.

Binary star system.

Alpha Center.

Now, is that East?

Depends on which direction you face.

Now, the planet of Alderon might sound familiar.

Because Alderon was Princess Leia's home planet in Star Wars.

You'd think this would be a bit of a gotcha moment against Preston Nichols, but it is in fact quite the opposite.

That's where I got you.

According to Preston, everything in Star Wars is actually accurate to the truth of the universe.

And quite a few pieces of media, like Star Wars, are in fact actual histories, while the history that we know is Earth history is not history at all, but fiction.

Yeah, it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Listen, my cousin's a Wookiee.

He's crazy.

And I said, hey, you should get somebody called Electrolysis or something.

And all girls going to want to be with you, but you know, when it comes down to it, he's totally confident with himself.

And yeah, it's a lot of Jedi's.

He's a Wookiee turned wookie.

You know what I'm saying?

We're anti-wookie here.

It's an anti-wookie podcast.

In fact, we see a guy that started the Wookiee chapter in Montauk, the Wookiee Wookiees.

Yeah, oh, yeah, that guy.

Love that guy.

Same thing.

And they got yoga there.

It's all real.

Quit asking me questions, all right?

I'm trying to finish this five-hot dog line I have going on here.

Now, as far as our history being a fiction goes, Preston claims that the Pleiadians, the same aliens who helped him, they were actually involved with Hitler and the Third Reich, but only because the Pleiadians were involved in a millennia-long war against the Draconian race, aka the reptilians, who had colonized the earth in the form of the Jewish people.

Is that real?

Wow, oh my god, I gotta go, I gotta go out there.

This, however, according to Preston Nichols, Ed, is not a racist state.

I've been trying to say this, it's nothing racist about it, it's just truth.

It's just the true Jewish people are shapeshifting pretending aliens, but I love their culture and I love their holidays.

Advanced.

We are advanced.

We're better than you.

They got great food.

They got great comedians.

You know, when it comes down to it, yeah, of course.

I find reptilians funny.

A lot of people do.

I'm not going to live on Long Island if I'm going to get away with wrong with the Jews.

How am I going to be able to?

Honestly, because you throw a Yamaka, you're going to hit a reptilian every five feet out of you.

Why do you think I was so big when I was born?

The egg was in the nest too long, and it's not correct for for me to hatch.

Your mom's pussy should have been bigger.

Oh, God.

If only she was.

She'd probably still be around.

Jesus Christ.

You made it real.

Is there a relation between vagina size and diabetes?

Oh, I know that I was so big that she became a diabetic.

Okay.

So, yes.

Side stories LPOTL at gmail.com.

Well, as I said, Preston Nichols claims it's not a racist statement to say that Jews are reptilians.

Damn, it's just a fact.

Deal with it.

Yeah.

It's like how all Asians are hybrids of greys and insectoids.

Yeah.

That's why they have the worker bee mentality.

It's not racism if it's a fact.

These are just facts, Preston says.

It's nothing to get offended over.

Why are you getting offended?

You're acting like you're some kind of, like you're some kind of whatever.

Wokey.

Yeah.

Don't get offended.

These are jokes.

No, these aren't jokes.

These are facts.

These are the opposite of jokes.

But then sometimes what you find out is that what you joke about is actually quite serious.

Supposedly, the Nazis agreed to a technology exchange with the Pleiadians, and the Nazis offered up people in concentration camps as alien experiment subjects, most likely the communists and the gay people, because I would imagine the Pleiadians already had plenty of reptilians.

But supposedly, through this treaty, the Nazis learned about mind control, nuclear tech, and time travel.

According to Preston Nichols, though, Hitler apparently went quote off mission and took things a little too far.

So be assured that the Pleiadians staunchly anti-Holocaust.

Lucian, again, it's nothing racist democracy.

This is just facts.

It's just what history wants, okay?

They were like, whoa, Hitler, whoa.

Hey,

this would be illegal on our planet.

But luckily for the good old US of A, America was able to get their hands on all the alien technology the Pleiadians handed over to the Nazis through Operation Paperclip.

Cool.

When we rehabilitated all those Nazis, naturally, much of that technology was then applied to the Montauk project.

Oh, man, do you think Clippy was a Nazi?

I know Clippy was a Nazi.

At least he hung out with Nazis and said nothing.

He just corrected their grammar.

And there's nothing worse than a grammar Nazi.

Looks like you're trying to institute Liebens rounds.

Do you need help?

As a matter of fact, I do, People.

But now that we've had a bit of history, let's get back to the incredible life of Preston Nichols.

Now, Preston's biography was not just limited to science.

Oh, no!

Preston is far too cool for a life of solely intellectual pursuits.

Yeah, too cool.

Chickski pulled me out of the academic game.

Rather, if you believe what Preston Nichols claimed, he changed the face of pop and rock music many times over, acting as a key yet unsung figure in the music business.

Allegedly, it all started for Preston at a very young age, sometime in the late 1950s.

See, Preston claimed that his Cub Scout leader, a dude by the name of Cal Mann, recognized Preston's innate abilities in the field of electronics and took Preston to New York City when Preston was just 12 years old.

I gotta tell you, Preston, I saw you.

You were playing with that radio, and I just knew that must be his second language.

Thank you, Mr.

Man.

Yeah, you're right.

Hey, there, little boy.

I just can't even know you're really good at tying them knots.

You want to go see a Broadway play with your favorite Scum Council leader?

All you got to do is sit on my lap here.

It's called Time Travel Tree.

We're going to turn whittling and diddling.

Have you ever heard of a little thing called the twist?

I'm going to do it on you.

we'll get your insertion patch

oh yeah that's your big gaper patch

he dial his little ball dilated four centimeters

i'm a man scout

man scout

well preston had an interest in music and he had supposedly built a special recording device at the age of 12 that was able to tap into the esoteric principles of any song, thereby amplifying how well it could connect connect to an audience.

Cal Mann was a musician, Preston wrote, who is better known by his stage name, Chubby Checker.

And the song Preston supposedly used his new equipment to record was The Twist.

Yeah,

absolutely.

He's the only one who can hear me do it.

So hold on.

This guy claims Chubb Checker, Preston, by the way.

Chubby Checker.

No, no.

No, no, no, no, no.

Preston claimed that Chubby Checker was his Cub Scout leader

and that Chubby Checker was so impressed with his electronic skills that he, Chubby Checker, took him to New York City so they could record the twist together.

Okay.

Now you just sit there and watch me dance.

None of this is true.

Oh, yeah.

None of it's true.

What?

Cal Mann was a songwriter, but he wrote Let's Twist Again, which was the sequel to The Twist.

Whoa.

Hank Balor wrote The Twist.

And that's not even to mention the fact that Chubby Checker's real name was Ernest Evans.

And he certainly wasn't a Cub Scout leader taking 12-year-old boys on trips to the city.

Yeah, sorry.

I'm not Chubby Checker.

My real name's Big Fat Mr.

Domino.

Unfortunately, I have not been training you for time travel.

I have been molesting you.

Actually, Cal Man Domino is a name of a white man.

No.

So, Cal Man's real name actually was Cal Cohen.

Oh, he did.

He was a very nerdy white man.

Yeah.

And yeah, he changed it when he got into the songwriting business.

It's interesting.

I'm thinking about it, is Chubby Checker, Fat Domino, and Chess Records.

Yeah.

It's all in there.

I just, you know.

What does chess records have to do with him being chubby or fat?

He's just distracting us from what we have to do here, Marcus.

It's another connection.

You're asking me to find far-fetched connections this whole episode.

I found one of my own.

But the thing is about all the information about Calman and Chubby Checker and Hank Ballard, all that's not easily attainable in 1992 when Preston's book was released.

Preston actually, he even spelled Cal Man's name wrong.

He spelled Cal with a C instead of a K.

So I think that Preston just figured that it was safe to make both this claim and the avalanche of name-dropping that's about to come.

Also, just because I was such a big part of American history that they had to cut out, it was so hard for them to do it to cover it up.

So it was just like, you know, you just can't know my whole history because I'm the most secret man to ever live.

Mm-hmm.

Preston claimed that he also worked with the surf rock hitmakers The Ventures on many of their albums as an engineer.

And through The Ventures, Preston met singer Frankie Valley, who recruited Preston as the drummer on Big Girls Don't Cry.

Is that real?

No, of course.

Big girls do cry.

It's like the only person I could see relatively like that makes sense in this story is Frankie Valley.

He's like, the only guy.

The one of the four seasons is in this.

You're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

Just having Frankie Valley there, I can sit and be like, now that's a good tune.

You know what I mean?

Like, that's a, because he had a great voice.

He had an almost, I'd say, unworldly voice.

Ooh.

You see an alien?

If you look at Frankie Valley now, he definitely looks like a Teddy Ruxman-style robot.

Can't believe Frankie Valley's still alive.

Have you seen him do his animatronic performances?

No.

It's just so good.

It's just, Sherry, Sherry, baby.

You can't see it.

He's dead on the inside.

Yeah.

He's a dead man.

I'm very proud of him.

Yeah, he's making money.

You know, my mom dated one of the four seasons for a second.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know.

Probably autumn.

But I know she said it only lasted one date because he tried to go out with her sister.

She should have took that.

She should have took that.

She should have been.

Your whole life could have been better.

Certainly wouldn't have been worse than my father.

Well, the things about these claims, Preston told his readers, don't even bother trying to verify all this.

Because Because after Preston saw the kind of hell that Chubby Checker and Frankie Valley went through with being famous, he decided to have his name withheld on all of his work in the music industry, which is incredibly extensive, supposedly.

For example, Preston claimed that he helped Phil Spector develop the wall of sound recording technique.

But you didn't put how he said he knew Phil, where he was like, oh, what was his guy name on?

He was named as Phil Big Hair.

Big hair, crazy guy.

I can't go into all of his, like, I can't go into all of his fucking like stories because he goes on and on and on and on.

I'm definitely bringing all these down.

Like that he was responsible for the Beatles' jump and artistic ability with Sergeant Pepper.

It's like, yeah, they came over to America.

And I said, why don't you try recording on the big speaker?

Did you see the wall of sound that he built in his barn?

No, I didn't.

Oh, yeah.

Like, there was one of the one of the docs that Rob sent me, Dark Days or something like that.

Oh, Dark Files.

Dark Files, yeah.

They go and they interview him behind his like broken, broken knobs and

top of bass speaker.

Where he lived on top of bass speakers because they said it cleared him that the bass noises below 30 megahertz cleared him of his psoriasis.

That is real.

He also said that he was the one who told Jimi Hendrix, like, hey, you ever thought about playing electric guitar?

This is the movie I want to see.

This would have been so much better in a complete unknown forest

if he was in this.

He was also the guy who told the Beach Boys, like, hey, you guys ever thought about singing together?

No, fucking shit.

Don't do it one at a time.

Do it all like, oh, one, two, three.

I'm thinking about good vibration.

Come on, look at it.

Oh, my God, you fat piece of shit.

You're a genius.

Who are you?

You never saw me.

That's the guy who told Phil Spector to get a gun collection.

Preston also claimed that he was not only the one who recorded Light My Fire by the Doors, but that he was personal friends with Jim Morrison.

And it was actually Preston Nichols who taught Jim Morrison how to perform live.

Before that, Jim Morrison just stared at the wall.

Honestly, I was the one who said, Jim, pull your dick out.

Take an old of it.

It's going to cause a moment.

All right.

You got the schnooze for it?

I want you to go out there and you flap it around.

I was the one who said, hey, Jim?

Jim?

You ever thought about singing about fucking your mother?

You ever think about Trenton?

Think about fucking your mother.

Sing about her.

Hey, two words.

Lizard King.

Just made that up.

Just thought it out.

Done, right?

Lizard King, that's you.

But interestingly, Morrison's story is actually related to another character from pop culture who also plays a role in Preston's history.

Apparently, one of the most powerful psychic and esoteric minds on earth belongs to the actor Mark Hamill.

But Mark actually started in the music business, according to Preston.

Preston claimed to have met Mark Hamill through Chubby Checker and Frankie Valley, because Mark Hamill was writing songs for other people without taking credit with his brother Chuck as far back as 1967.

That would make him.

No, I mean, he was 16 years old.

Just something.

Writing songs for Chubby Checker.

Like, it's the weirdest thing.

Yeah.

It's a strange thing.

16-year-old Mark Hamill.

Because also, it's funny because then Preston Nichols also says Star Wars Wars is real.

Yes.

So he's hanging out with Luke Skywalker.

Well, no, he's still like just the act.

Mark Hamill is just the actor.

We're going to get into the Star Wars thing here in a second.

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.

At the age of 16, Hamill supposedly wrote and recorded Beg, Borrow, and Steal and released it under the name of The Ohio Express.

Oh, damn!

No word, however,

as to if Hamill also wrote The Ohio Express's other hit, Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, I've Got Love in My Tummy and I Feel Like Loving You.

Ah, actually, Actually, I think that was the guy that played Obi-Wan.

Alex Guinness.

He did it.

Or is one of the Mom Talk boys who was forced to have a yummy tummy?

Yeah, he does.

Let me get some.

But the connection to the doors here is that Preston claims that Mark Hamill actually wrote most of Jim Morrison's poetry.

That's why he's not.

Although that's really not as big of a credit as I think Preston Nichols thought it was.

I literally don't do this to work

But Preston claimed that everything he knew about audio engineering fit into his understanding of mind control, which is what made him, in his estimation, one of the great recording engineers of the 60s, despite his name never coming up once anywhere for anything.

See, Preston claimed that sound waves held electromagnetic power, and his later work on the Montauk project dealt with similar energies, as the Montauk project was all about harnessing frequencies to control minds and shape realities.

It was the music business, Preston said, where all these possibilities were opened up.

It's an interesting idea.

In fact, Preston was certain that the psychic implanting of messages into pop and rock tunes is how the Montauk Project was eventually able to lure in so many Montauk boys to be experimented upon.

Have you ever thought about Billy Joel possibly being a Montauk Project

candidate?

Oh my god, was Billy Joel?

Oh,

scenes from an Italian restaurant.

There's no way that that was made by all this Nazi technology.

Yeah, but some.

Do you mean to tell me that the stranger was inspired by the Nazis?

Well, it took only the mean Montauk boys lived.

And that's why only the good die young.

Wow.

Billy Jewel.

Billy Joel has it talked about it once, and that's how you know he's a part of it because he doesn't remember.

Yeah, that's true.

Isn't it?

I want to find his chubby little hands, and I want to find out.

I want want to go to Montauk and find him on this because he's, I think he's only legally allowed to drive a golf cart now.

Yeah.

And so I feel like I think it'd be easy to find him.

What do you think happens to those two people that get brought from the back row to the front at every Madison Square Garden Billy Joe concert?

Do you think those people just go home?

Wow.

Do you think Billy Joe's doing that out of the kindness of his fucking heart?

No, wow.

No.

Candidates for the time travel program.

No fucking shit.

MSG's a fucking, it's a slave market.

That's right.

They got to provide a bottle of red and a bottle of white, and of course, that's blood and cum.

Wow.

Or plasma.

But in addition to being an unsung hero in the recording industry, Preston also claims movie credits by saying that he was the one who convinced George Lucas to cast his friend Mark Hamill in the role of Luke Skywalker.

No shit.

As such, Preston said that he was present during the filming of Star Wars.

Every single scene.

And that two psychics were present during all takes.

In Preston's view, Star Wars was so popular because Lucas had instructed the psychics to implant psychic messages onto the film itself to make people like it more.

Additionally, Preston claimed that he was the one who gave George Lucas the idea for the Force.

And later, Preston claimed that he used his extensive knowledge of sound to not only develop THX, but also mix sound for The Empire Strikes Back.

Wow!

Yeah!

Wow!

At this point, when I'm reading it, I'm just like, it's like, I can just tell the fucking weirdo that I'm stuck on the train with.

You know, and that's the thing is, what's crazy is that you would even be describing, you know, the psychics were cooking lunch.

We're in Tangier.

Yeah.

You know, we got the Jedis over there.

And the whole time, I'm just thinking, like,

you know, Mark could be skinnier.

And then me and George, we had a little sidebar.

You and George.

Oh, me and George go way back.

Yeah.

George Lucas.

George.

And we were hanging out.

And then, I mean, Obi was working on that new sequel to The Twist.

And the whole time, I'm like, this is going to be big.

This movie's going to be, it's going to be big.

Yeah.

Bing bong.

Okay, I get it.

This is my stop.

No.

What I did was progress.

Stand clear of the closing doors, please.

I'll see you later.

I know it.

I know Rick O'Kayson.

Now, by the early 70s, Preston had either stepped back from the music industry for a little bit, or he was splitting his time.

Because starting around 1971, Preston began working for a military defense contractor on where else but Long Island.

Preston said that he was hired to be on a team of scientists who were tasked with examining some so-called foreign material, foreign technology, which turned out to be a captured UFO.

The craft was a typical disc-shaped flying saucer with no seams, no obvious buttons, and no controls.

From what Preston was able to figure out from disassembling and reverse engineering the craft, however, it was operated not by conventional means, but by mind control, using psychic chairs powered by crystals.

This guy's so lazy.

It's just everything's like a powerful chair.

You wait till the next episode.

It is all about powerful chairs.

Are you trying to tell me that Fat Man from Long Island is not going to be passionate about chairs?

And I'm in my lazy boy.

I'm anything but.

I'm a busy man.

Because in this throne, I can control so many things with my Long Island mind.

I could get out of my psychic chair.

But I don't need to.

I don't need to, you dirty fuck.

I could do it all right here.

Because I'm sitting in this chair completely filled, completely to the brim with raviolis and I'm not walking around because I got a bit of a cramp.

This is Preston Nichols, by the way.

I love this picture of him.

We need to put this on social media.

No Preston's

in that picture sales.

Again, audio medium.

What?

If you could see the picture of him going, my blood pressure is what?

Now, Preston's timeline can be difficult to suss out at times because he can be extremely vague and he jumps around a lot.

But it seems like the defense contractor on Long Island that had hired him to reverse engineer this UFO, this defense contractor, was the Montaugh project.

Because soon after he cracked the psychic chairs, he became a full part of the operation.

We had to rebuild some of them because we just needed to make them more weight-bearing.

Using the technology he'd gleaned from the mind-controlled UFO, Preston claimed that he was involved with the creation of a device that could send out thoughts from a giant transmitter.

This device came to be known as the Montauk chair.

It's not funny, Eddie.

There's nothing funny about it.

There's nothing funny about the Montauk chair.

There's not a single funny thing about this chair.

I mean, I know that the Montauk chair also sounds like when you sit on the toilet too long because you have too much.

It's too much mozzarella.

Oh, shit.

Better go take a break on the Montauk chair.

Being constipated because too much cheese.

Now, a lot of the experiments in the Montauk project would revolve around the Montauk chair.

But in the beginning, Montauk boys would be sat in the chair while various radio waves, UHF waves, and microwaves of varying widths, pulse rates, and frequencies would bombard the Montauk boys' bodies just to see what effect it would have on their psyches.

Now, it was said that these waves could make a person sleep, cry, laugh, or be agitated, but it wasn't just the person in the chair who was affected.

Supposedly, everyone on the base would get into a mood when the chair was turned on.

Oh, yeah.

So the brass began taking note of how powerful this thing could be.

See, the chair was attached to that radar I mentioned earlier, the Sage array, which, if you'll remember, was one of the big selling points for the military to turn the Phoenix project into the Montauk project.

The Sage array operated at just the right radio frequency to access the human mind.

And once the Montauk project figured out how to use the chair to break into the mind, it was only a matter of time before they figured out how to use the chair to project the minds of the people using the chair outward.

Using tubes.

Tubes in the chair.

Outside of the chair.

Okay.

Yeah.

And tunnels, but time tunnels.

We'll get into it later.

That lead to tunnel tunnels.

And they're tubes.

They're not pipes.

No.

Tubes.

difference, very much so.

No, no, no.

What is the difference between a tube and a pipe, in your estimation?

Let's just say one works and one doesn't.

I think pipes aren't as flexible.

Tubes you can wiggle.

Yeah, wiggly.

Tubes are quite wiggly.

I just don't want a bag.

I don't want to debase it in that way.

Yes.

Rob, former plumber?

Yes.

Tubes come in long rolls.

Yeah.

Pipes come in length.

Thank you, Long Island former resident

bringing your proper representation.

The Montauk chair was also discovered to be quite useful for recording pop songs for subliminal messages.

Got to.

And Preston Nichols was naturally the engineer for these sessions that supposedly occurred on this military base on Montauk Point.

I couldn't help but notice when we were torturing that one Montauk boy, he had a beautiful voice.

And I got just the song for him.

That song, 1974's Everlasting Love by Carl Carlton.

Open up your eyes, then you realize.

Here I stand with my everlasting love.

Yeah, man.

That's a great song.

Yeah, it's a great song.

Great song.

Great for a boy to sing.

I'm glad they built this chair with the two.

Yeah, yeah, no.

We wouldn't have that cover of Everlasting Love without it.

Nope.

It was an early and wildly successful Montauk chair experiment.

Although the subliminal messages that were in Everlasting Love, Preston Nichols declined to impart that information.

But once the potential for the Montauk chair was discovered, the Montauk project was able to move from controlling the minds of others to using the psychic powers of human beings to control and manipulate not just time, but reality itself.

And that is where we'll pick back up next week for our conclusion with time travel, with pyramids on Mars, and of course, the Montauk Beast.

Yeah.

And never mind, boys in space

lots of boys in space.

Many boys.

Many boys in space.

Many boys in tunnels.

Now, the Montauk Beast, is that the Montauk monster?

Yeah.

Yes.

Okay.

No.

Different.

Oh, no, no.

That is it.

Yeah, I forgot about the Montauk monster.

Montauk, you're talking about the thing that washed up on the shore, right?

Isn't the Montauk monster supposed to be of the same origin of the Montauk beast?

He might be from Plum Island.

Who knows?

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a variety.

He might be.

I forgot.

Oh, man.

Plum Island.

We got to do next.

Yeah, there's a lot.

There's a lot of people.

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be a bully in space.

That's all I want to do.

Whatever that means to you.

Amen.

I know what that means to me.

Huge fucking bowl and sit in the the tub.

Fuck yeah, man.

Rock and roll, dude.

You do that, man.

I'm doing tub life now.

I used to.

I used to.

I'm in there now.

Yeah, I don't tub, but I definitely toilet bowl.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I gotta start smoking blunts on the toilet again.

It's been a while.

I miss it.

Yeah.

The thing is, once you start wiping, though, you gotta finish the blunt.

Yeah, everyone's upset.

Hmm.

Well, it's hard to share.

Hail Satan.

Oh, sorry, I'm just, I just got distracted by the whole like blunt and the wiping thing.

Yeah, sure.

sure, of course.

Hail Gein.

Hale,

Mark Camille.

Yeah, yeah.

He doesn't deserve any of it.

Neither does Dr.

John von Neumann.

I also feel like more people need to honestly hit up Mark Camill about this.

Yes.

Like, he needs to know how deeply involved in this is.

Come on the show.

Oh, we'd love to.

He needs to know that there's a whole world of like, he's just, he's going to be so excited to know Star Wars is real.

Yeah.

Yeah, and if you want to come on the show and personally thank Preston, I think the family would appreciate it.

He'd really appreciate it.

He didn't have any family.

No.

Because you can't have the family when there's truth involved.

Well, the guy who has a giant pot on his head that lives on his property, I'm sure, will be thankful.

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