What a Weekday: Mike Johnson's Rumspringa

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Speaker 1 I got a bunch of Mickey Rooney's personal effects this time. Oh, yeah, which way? What are you going to do with those dolls' heads, you think?

Speaker 1 No, I got a bunch of pictures, like candid photos. Oh, cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, you went. Wait, wait, so what else was what else did you see it? So, just for those listening at home, if this is the banter we're surely using,

Speaker 1 but uh, Kendra went to Mickey Rooney's estate sale. I did.
Any uh, Brequis Etiphany's pair of stuff? No, there was no breakfast etiphany stuff. I was mostly velvet.

Speaker 1 Oh, there was velvet stuff, but I was there specifically for mgm musical stuff oh yeah i'm not a big mickey rooney fan at all but i

Speaker 1 but i wanted the stuff of him and judy and like him and other studio people yeah that's fun nice so i went and got like i have some now some like fredestaire candidates that i can't find online so like

Speaker 1 around well played um and i have some stuff of like some photos of him and judy as well that's awesome you know i bet there is room for a niche business that just says, I go to these estate sales, I get a ton of the best stuff.

Speaker 1 It's all that I do, and I sell them online.

Speaker 1 I would back

Speaker 1 your estate sale taste.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about this when we're not on a

Speaker 1 what would we call it?

Speaker 1 They're the, they're the nation. A state of a state of

Speaker 1 the nation. I keep want to say a state of panic.

Speaker 3 A state of the union.

Speaker 1 A state of

Speaker 1 from their from their cold famous hands okay i like that

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Speaker 1 perfect

Speaker 1 and we're back for another edition of what a weekday i'm here with sarah hallie and kendra a lot to cover so let's get into it what a weekday

Speaker 1 after pouring 120 million dollars into donald trump's successful re-election campaign, Elon Musk is cashing in on that influence he purchased fair and square.

Speaker 1 America is a Nora, and there are no Russian parents flying in to queer the deal. You see Enora? I haven't gotten there yet.
Everybody should see it.

Speaker 1 Everybody should see a Nora. It's on the list.
Really good. Fun for the whole family.
I would not say that.

Speaker 1 I would not say that.

Speaker 1 Musk has been hanging out at Mar-a-Lago nearly every day since the election, with some members of Trump's transition team reportedly seeing Musk as the guest who wouldn't leave. Wouldn't leave?

Speaker 1 That doesn't sound like him, said Musk's 11 children.

Speaker 1 I like that joke. I thought that was a good joke.
Just hours after the election, Musk joined Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, chiming in multiple times.

Speaker 1 But hey, somebody's got to make the Rick and Morty references.

Speaker 1 Said Zelensky, wait, have I been on speaker the whole time?

Speaker 1 Actually, I think Trump handed him the phone. Yeah, that's what I saw.
Here.

Speaker 1 Musk's diplomatic efforts didn't end there. Last week, Musk reportedly met with Iran's ambassador to the UN for an hour in a secret location.

Speaker 1 We have to presume it was an actual secret location and not just one of those annoying bars where the door looks like a refrigerator.

Speaker 1 Iranian officials said that the two men discussed how to defuse tensions between Iran and the U.S. After the meeting, Musk immediately got to work on the solution, a child-sized submarine.

Speaker 1 Remember that?

Speaker 1 I do remember that. You know how the worst thing about Elon Musk? Oh, yeah.
Everyone turned on him then. It was, but that was an interesting moment, right?

Speaker 1 Because it was a kind of collective, what's going on there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait a second.
I thought this was some sort of a business genius. What's happening? Why is he doing this?

Speaker 1 Why is he accusing a random stranger of being a pedophile on the internet? There were clues. Yeah,

Speaker 1 the signs were there. Also, he never came out with the child-sized submarine.
We're still waiting on that.

Speaker 1 Where is it? I'm going. Where is that child-size

Speaker 1 that he was going to build before they ran out of air to go into a circuitous maze-like underground tunnel.

Speaker 1 Couldn't get me to go

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 1 underwater caves. Couldn't get me to do it.
No, thank you. I choose life.

Speaker 1 What am I going to find down there? Boy, that was fun. I don't know.
If I were ever going to go in an underground cave, now would be the time.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Is it filled with water?

Speaker 1 Not East Point. Who cares? Not yet.
You've got an hour.

Speaker 1 Not on the way down.

Speaker 1 Caroline Leavitt, a spokesperson for the Trump transition, said in a statement, the American people re-elected President Trump because they trust him to lead our country and restore peace through strength around the world.

Speaker 1 When he returns to the White House, he will take the necessary action to do just that and continued leave it. And until then, we're letting Elon get his zoomies out.

Speaker 1 There was a time when it was looked upon askance and as a federal crime for a private citizen to conduct foreign policy outside of an administration.

Speaker 1 Those were the old days. Out with the old, in with the new.
If we get her on the show, it can be love it and leave it. It could be love love it and leave it.
If we get Caroline

Speaker 1 and soon-to-be White House press secretary on the show, then it would be Love It and Leave It.

Speaker 1 A future podcast, perhaps. Something to think about.

Speaker 1 Trump also tapped Musk to co-lead with Vivek Ramaswamy a new Department of Government Efficiency, or Doge, which, for those whose brains aren't completely pickled, is an allusion to the dog meme, which became the cryptocurrency meme coin.

Speaker 1 That's the hard thing about all of this. In addition to being terrifying, it's also cringe.
My heart is racing because of what the second Trump term could mean.

Speaker 1 But also, I'm desperately trying to get out of talking to Trump's second term at a co-worker's birthday party.

Speaker 1 Just days later, Doge began soliciting job applications, writing on X, We need super high IQ small government revolutionaries willing to work 80 hours per week on unglamorous cost cutting.

Speaker 1 If that's you, DM this account with your CV, Elon and Vivek, will review the top 1% of applicants.

Speaker 1 That's me, gasped the saddest man alive, rushing to pull both hands out of his sweatpants to work on a cover letter. High IQ and willing to work over 80 hours a week for Elon Musk? Good luck.

Speaker 1 You sound like men in 2003 who wanted girlfriends that ate burgers instead of salads, but looked like Cameron Diaz.

Speaker 1 On Saturday, Musk sat next to Trump as the president-elect made his triumphant return to Madison Square Garden for a UFC event.

Speaker 1 Trump made a deal, and that deal said, you can be president again, but Elon Musk will follow you around like a duckling that imprinted on you for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 At a meeting with House Republicans, which Musk also attended, Trump joked, Elon won't go home. I can't get rid of him, at least until I don't like him.

Speaker 1 Hmm, interesting. Interesting.
I give this relationship 30 days, one month until Trump posts on True Social: Cybertrucks are very bad cars and not so beautiful, though I hear that the gays like them.

Speaker 1 A car for the wonderful gays. End quote.
Already the cracks are beginning to show.

Speaker 1 Musk publicly threw his support behind Trump's transition co-chair Howard Luttnick for Treasury Secretary and urged his followers to weigh in as well. Please at Nancy Pelosi killed peanut.

Speaker 1 The president awaits your input on this urgent matter. The pressure campaign annoyed some Trump advisors, according to the Washington Post, who suggested Musk was acting like a co-president.

Speaker 1 The man who allegedly offered to buy a flight attendant a horse in exchange for an erotic massage doesn't understand boundaries. Were there any signs we missed?

Speaker 1 Tensions between Musk and Trump advisor Boris Epstein spilled out into public last week, with the two getting into a heated argument at a Mar-a-Lago dinner table in front of other guests.

Speaker 1 That must have been exciting for for Mar-a-Lago's guests to overhear an argument that wasn't about whether to fire the nanny for dressing too slutty on the grease vacation.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, the rollout of Trump's Me Too cabinet continues.

Speaker 1 Trump's desired Attorney General, Matt Gaetz, has been accused of having sex with a minor, paying women for sex, using illegal drugs, misusing campaign funds, sharing homemade pornography on the house floor, all of which is so insane that we've all forgotten when Matt Gaetz announced that he had functionally but not formally adopted his ex-girlfriend's teenage brother and had been raising him as a son for six years.

Speaker 1 Remember, Nestor? Has anyone checked in on Nestor? What happened to Nestor?

Speaker 1 I had forgotten about that, but now I can see. I remember they posted a picture together and I can now see it clearly in my mind.

Speaker 1 I did see a headline this morning that I forgot to follow up on, but apparently Matt Gates used Nestor's PayPal to pay for sex. Good, yes, that's good.
Good to do the teenager's PayPal.

Speaker 1 Gotta get him on that Covenant app. Allegedly.

Speaker 1 Allegedly. Allegedly.
Allegedly.

Speaker 1 Allegedly.

Speaker 1 We're making jokes here, here, Mr. General.

Speaker 1 If you're seeing this in a couple of months and you're the Attorney General, hey, good luck. We see things differently, but we're all part of the same team, the American team.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just goofs, just bits. Just goofs, just bits.
We're nothing here. We're just a bunch of nothings.
We've got nothing. Don't worry about us.

Speaker 1 Don't look at us. Don't forget about what Joe Scarborough said.
Come on. Remember? Come on.

Speaker 1 Why is your Venmo account public?

Speaker 1 Never set up a Venmo. Never did.
Never did it. I'm a cash man.
I got cash in my pocket.

Speaker 1 You need money? I got cash that's good to know yeah yeah not doing Venmo see you walking down the walking down the street in LA I mean you know you've got cash Mr. Big Pockets over here

Speaker 1 I just want to understand the Venn diagram of someone who would mug me and someone that listened to

Speaker 1 well good luck to me out there not that much cash not no libel not that much cash everybody leave us alone

Speaker 1 An attorney representing two women who testified in the House Ethics Committee investigation of Gates has called for its report to to be released and said that one of his clients told the committee that she witnessed Gates having sex with a minor at a House party in Orlando in 2017.

Speaker 1 But Trump is willing to look past all of that, given Gates' incomparable resume of brief stint at a law firm in northwest Florida after law school.

Speaker 1 House Speaker Mike Johnson said he opposes releasing the Ethics Committee report on Gates, saying this on CNN's State of the Union.

Speaker 4 What I have said with regard to the report is that it should not come out. And why? Because Matt Gates resigned from Congress.
He is no longer a member.

Speaker 4 There's a very important protocol and tradition and rule that we maintain that the House Ethics Committee's jurisdiction does not extend to non-members of Congress.

Speaker 1 Moses comes down from Sinai carrying the tablets, finds Mike Johnson dancing around a golden calf. Oh, sorry, Moses.
House Ethics Committee's jurisdiction does not extend to non-members of Congress.

Speaker 1 I'm just noticing that Mike Johnson looks like Jake Tapper's evil twin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The same glasses, same hair.

Speaker 3 I like that joke because it implies that there could be a God.

Speaker 1 god. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just also just imagine Mike Johnson dancing around the golden cap. Can we add some

Speaker 1 drums or something in post, you know? Like it's the little put, there's some posts going on. He's like, sorry, man.
It's Trump Town now. I'm worshiping a golden idol.
And that golden idol is Trump.

Speaker 1 Can't release the committee report. I used to have ethics.
Think they're important. I'm a very Christian man.
Believe in the rules. Love the rules.
Sorry. Sorry, man.
Got to love the rules.

Speaker 1 Is he wearing a suit still? Yeah, he's wearing a suit. But it's like, but the tie is kind of ripped.

Speaker 1 And there's lots of, you know, it's like he's got, like, he's ripped ripped his pants to make shorts. Yeah, yeah.
He's kind of just dancing. Sorry, Moses.
I'll look at Trump now.

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Speaker 1 One big problem with all of this, as Fox News reported, is that there is actually a tradition of releasing ethics reports despite the subject no longer being in Congress.

Speaker 1 The committee released their findings into influence peddling by the late John Murthy, a Democrat, after his death in 2010, and the committee published a 699-page report on allegations of bribery by Bill Bonner, a Democratic congressman from Tennessee, after he left office.

Speaker 1 So now what, Mike Johnson? Now that the hammer of hypocrisy has fallen? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 In the meantime, Trump has begun calling senators directly to ask for their support in getting Gates confirmed. Stay strong, Bill Cassidy.

Speaker 1 Don't let that sexy caramel voice seduce you off the path of righteousness. Trump is testing his strength, like when I tell my team I want to book Ezra Miller just to see if they'll do it.

Speaker 1 They will not.

Speaker 1 We've got to get Ezra Miller on the show.

Speaker 1 Okay, I have some free time later.

Speaker 1 Additionally, R.F.K.

Speaker 1 Jr., Trump's pick to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, was accused of sexually assaulting a babysitter he employed in the late 90s and responded to that allegation by saying, I am not a church boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wouldn't be a church boy either if God did that to my voice. We're making fun of the voice.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, Pete Hegset, the former Fox News host that Trump has selected for defense secretary, was accused of sexual assault in 2017.

Speaker 1 Hegseth also asked then-President Trump to intervene on behalf of three buddies accused of or convicted of war crimes, which Trump did. So I don't know what could come out that would surprise me.

Speaker 1 He has an involved father. He recycles.
He smiled when he saw a little dog.

Speaker 1 Hegseth has denied that the encounter was non-consensual, but acknowledged paying the woman a confidential settlement to keep her from filing a damaging lawsuit.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a real money saver when these guys realize that there is no longer such a thing as a damaging sexual assault lawsuit.

Speaker 1 That allegation was not known to Trump's transition team when Hegseth's nomination was announced, but Trump has told advisors he's standing by his pick. Trump's team didn't know about it.

Speaker 1 It's just a happy accident.

Speaker 1 These various allegations are serious, but they're also interesting and drawing a lot of the attention around Trump's picks, which means we aren't talking about what it means to have someone like Gates doing Trump's bidding, targeting Trump's enemies, charged with enforcing civil rights laws and laws protecting women's access to healthcare, or what it means to have someone like Hag Seth conducting a purge of military commanders who were seen as disloyal to Trump and executing Trump's pledge to deploy the military into our streets, or what it means to have an anti-science crank like RFK Jr.

Speaker 1 in charge of medical research or a Putin and Assad apologist in charge of the nation's intelligence agencies, or what it means to have a billionaire purchasing access and promising trillion-dollar cuts that would require massive cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans benefits on top of the promise Trump has made to half education funding, if not outright eliminate the Department of Education.

Speaker 1 We may lose these fights, but we have to have these fights as if we can win. Speaking of losing, it's time to talk about our old friends, the Democrats.

Speaker 1 The race for Democratic National Committee chair is on.

Speaker 1 On Monday, former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley resigned as head of the Social Security Administration, a job we knew he had, and threw his hat in the ring.

Speaker 1 Other names in the mix include Friend of the Show and Wisconsin Democratic Party chair, Ben Wickler, Minnesota Democratic chair, Ken Martin, former mayor of New Orleans, Mitch Landryu and current U.S.

Speaker 1 Ambassador to Japan, and guy arguing at the valet stand because he's been standing here for for 10 minutes. From Emmanuel.

Speaker 1 Brewing, of course, is the blame game over the 2024 loss and how the election of this new party chair is a signal about the future of the party.

Speaker 1 According to Politico, who conducted interviews with over two dozen DNC members, centrist Democrats are accusing their more progressive counterparts of being beholden to identity politics, captured by interest groups, and out of touch with large segments of American voters.

Speaker 1 The progressives are pointing out that Kamala Harris campaigned with Liz Cheney, talked tough on immigration, avoided distancing herself from Biden on Gaza, and threatened to shoot intruders with her own literal gun, all while Americans expressed increasing distrust that Democrats were fighting on their behalf.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 it's time for Lovett's take.

Speaker 1 You're both right. You're all annoying.
We're all annoying. It's all of our fault.

Speaker 1 Why is the ACLU sending out a questionnaire asking about an extremely rare edge case scenario about undocumented trans prisoners? Is it because law-abiding trans citizens have it too good?

Speaker 1 And why is a presidential candidate bothering to answer?

Speaker 1 Why did we convince ourselves of the bigoted notion that you appealed to American citizens who happen to be Latino, a term that flattens a vast array of cultures and experiences by taking increasingly permissive stances on immigration enforcement, as opposed to embracing the politically popular position of enforcing border security alongside generous immigration policies?

Speaker 1 And at the same time, how are we the party taking on the establishment when we're the party of Liz Cheney and Oprah?

Speaker 1 How are we the party of working people when millions are fleeing the high cost of living in places where Democrats are in total control?

Speaker 1 How are we the party of change when one side promises big sweeping tumult across basically every facet of government? And we reply, I know you're frustrated.

Speaker 1 We are going to increase the small business tax credit. It's as if voters were saying, hey, life feels worse since the pandemic ended, like nothing was totally right again.

Speaker 1 Everything is expensive and everyone seems mad. And we replied, we're going to build an opportunity economy.
Trump is Glinda, running like an alphabet.

Speaker 1 We're meant to be alphabas, but we sound like Glindas. Right now, I am skeptical of anyone who claims to know the answer and to know that the answer is what they've always said.

Speaker 1 The DNC chair race just isn't the the place to wage our grand ideological battle.

Speaker 1 We need someone in that role who will get up every day thinking about how to build an organization that can win in all 50 states, in which everyone who wants to have this fight about the future of the party is welcome.

Speaker 1 That's all. I really like Ben Wickler, though, just because, but I don't want to, you know, I just think he do a great job.
I just think

Speaker 1 just we should all be thinking, what would they want us to do and then not do that?

Speaker 1 For example, hey, would they want us to rush to give away our own rights or cut out certain members of certain communities before they can do it? Then let's not do that.

Speaker 1 That seems to be like a good orienting principle of let's think about what they want us to do and not do it. I also like this idea that like Kamala

Speaker 1 is on the hook for this answer that she gave to an ACLU questionnaire in 2020. That becomes a national ad campaign.
Then that becomes a stand-in for the trans issue.

Speaker 1 First of all, we can't go back in time and

Speaker 1 say to the dozen or so Democrats running in 2020, like, hey, we're going to look back on this and realize that we were too acquiescent to certain positions of a few different groups because we've already moved past those positions.

Speaker 1 Like Kamala Harris ran far to the center from those positions.

Speaker 1 Like we already, like, it's like, well, One thing the Democratic Party can't do is do what it did in 2020, but it didn't do in 2024 what it did in 2020. That's the the first point.

Speaker 1 The second point is, like,

Speaker 1 that ad, like, you can call that ad a trans ad, but really it was just an ad about like Democrats not fighting for you and using this really once, this one strange example, which is not really about whether or not trans people deserve basic rights or if Americans are somehow discomfortable with the idea of trans people using the bathroom that comports with

Speaker 1 their gender. It's about the government spending money on undocumented prisoners in a way that seems strange to people.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I don't want to have, I don't want that to be the stand in for what we should do for trans people. We have to fight for trans people.
That's what makes the whole thing so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Like, I, I, like, this is, this is about two people. This was a fight about two people.
No, we should not

Speaker 1 suddenly use that to mean we need to moderate on a whole host of other issues based on absolutely no evidence.

Speaker 1 Everybody is just going off without any data, without any evidence, just sort of confirming the priors they brought to the election in the first place.

Speaker 1 We're like, like dancing on the head of the pin, meanwhile, based on nothing, just because she wants the headlines.

Speaker 1 Nancy Mace is like putting up a resolution to stop Sarah McBride from being able to go to the bathroom in the Capitol.

Speaker 1 And it's like.

Speaker 1 Nancy Mace puts out this thing. Sarah McBride puts out a comic, basically trying to avoid the fight with Nancy Mace that Nancy Mace is desperate to have.

Speaker 1 Nancy Mace is like quoting every, any person talking about this. She just wants the headlines.
She wants headlines so badly about going after Sarah McBride.

Speaker 1 Sarah McBride is desperately trying to not take the bait. It's like

Speaker 1 all of these sort of centrists who are saying on background, by the way, like,

Speaker 1 it's the progressives. They've made us too woke.
It's the left. They've dragged us too far to the left.
There is a massive operation.

Speaker 1 to make these the focus of our politics, these these to make that there was a literally $100 million spent on ads to make this ACLU questionnaire from 2020 the centerpiece of

Speaker 1 voters' consideration as they were making their decision. Democrats are not responsible for every position every activist takes.

Speaker 1 And it is the role of activists to take the positions that are past where current Democrats are currently on any issue. If they didn't do that, they wouldn't be activists.

Speaker 1 They wouldn't have a purpose. If activists agreed with every position Democrats currently took, they would be, the activism would be complete.

Speaker 1 It seems strange to me that again, on background, someone's like, I don't want to be this party of freak shows the way they've branded us. It's like, well, then get better at branding.

Speaker 1 It's not, it shouldn't be a policy response to them being better at storytelling. It should be us getting better at storytelling.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, because if you concede on whatever issue, they're not going to stop trying to win. Exactly.
Republicans are going to do everything they can to make Democrats sound extreme.

Speaker 1 We should figure out what we're for, why we're for it, to have the broadest appeal possible.

Speaker 1 But there is no getting out of the fact that Republicans are going to try to make us seem like something we are not. That is just part of politics.

Speaker 1 And the instinct that some have to blame the left for that every time, does that mean the left is always right? No.

Speaker 1 Does that mean there are times when Democrats have been too beholden to some interests on the left? Yes. But sometimes this really is

Speaker 1 not being willing to see that we are being called something that we're not.

Speaker 1 Speaking of pretending to be something that you're not, four people were arrested in California for staging bear attacks to commit insurance fraud after police reviewed security footage of a car allegedly damaged by the animal, said the state's Department of Insurance.

Speaker 1 Upon further scrutiny of the video, the investigation determined that the bear was actually a person in a bear costume. And yes, there is video.

Speaker 1 Investigators determined it was nothing more than a man in a bear suit.

Speaker 1 For those of you listening at home, we're watching footage of what is clearly a human being in a bear costume crawling around inside a 2010 Rolls-Royce ghost.

Speaker 1 This just in, the man in the bear costume, has been named Trump's Secretary of the Interior.

Speaker 1 And finally, New York officials announced that Peanut, the Instagram famous squirrel who was seized and euthanized in October, did not have rabies after all. Just as for Peanut.

Speaker 1 His body will be solemnly smothered in Chipotle's queso blanco and delivered to RFK Jr. for consumption.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh,

Speaker 1 Chipotle.

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Speaker 1 That's it from us. Thank you to Kendra Halley and Lazarus.
This will be our last what a weekday before Thanksgiving. So you will have our show Saturday.

Speaker 1 And then the next show will be the what a week day after the break.

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Speaker 1 Straight shoot tie

Speaker 1 Loving or living, it's not it, or leave it.

Speaker 1 Let's take it on my side,

Speaker 1 loving or living, it's not it or leave it.

Speaker 1 Straight shoot tie,

Speaker 1 loving, or leave it, it's not it, believe it.

Speaker 1 Let's take it on size.

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Speaker 1 It's love it, or leave it. What kind of trolls? I think, I think it's like

Speaker 1 the bongos that would have been played at, I want to say Biscotti Park, but I know that's wrong. Zuccotti Park during Occupy.
I want Occupy Wall Street drums. Oh.
You know, that's what I'm picturing.

Speaker 1 Is it Zuccotti? It's not Biscotti.

Speaker 1 It's not Biscotti Park. It's Zuccotti Park, I think.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Remember that? Occupy Wall Street? Yeah,

Speaker 1 just crazy enough to work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my classmate was on the cover of New York Magazine as a

Speaker 1 as like the face of Occupy Wall Street. Now he works for Raytheon.
No, I don't. I'm making that up.

Speaker 1 Do you think

Speaker 1 works for Raytheon? Wow. Nope.
You know the person? You both know the person? Oh, yeah. He was a legend on the Oberlin campus.
Oh, God. What does it take to be a legend on the Oberlin campus?

Speaker 1 I hate to think. That's exactly what you're imagining.
Let's bleep the name. Where is he now? I would assume still doing chicken bone puppets in the subway.
Oh, well, I think that'll change things.

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Speaker 2 Being an American right now is a wild ride. The headlines come fast, but what do they actually mean for people's lives?

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Speaker 2 Join me and some of the smartest thinkers in politics to ask how we take back the reins of a runaway nation.

Speaker 2 Listen to Runaway Country with Alex Wagner every Thursday, wherever you get our podcasts or watch full episodes on YouTube.