464 - Dear Movies, I Love You

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Speaker 2 and welcome to my favorite murder.

Speaker 1 That is Georgia Hardstar.

Speaker 2 And that that is Karen Kilgarif.

Speaker 1 And today we are so thrilled to be talking to two people you might already know. She is a film programmer and historian.
He's a filmmaker.

Speaker 2 And they just ended a critically acclaimed four-year run on the podcast. I saw what you did.

Speaker 1 And now they're back with a new show that premieres Tuesday, January 28th on the exactly right network.

Speaker 2 It's called Dear Movies, I Love You. Please welcome Millie DeCherico and Casey O'Brien.
Woo!

Speaker 2 Hi. Hi.

Speaker 1 Guys, could you tell we were reading off a teleprompter?

Speaker 4 Oh, it felt really good, though.

Speaker 2 Pros. We're just pros.

Speaker 1 How would you guys synopsize what you're doing on your podcast? Or like what the, you know, what's your elevator pitch of the podcast?

Speaker 2 The vibe.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well, you know, it's the name of the podcast is Dear Movies, I love you.
So it is kind of, you know, we say it's a, you know, having a crush on movies. It's an infatuation with movies.

Speaker 4 It's a sincere celebration of film and film culture.

Speaker 4 And we just want it to be accessible to people because, you know, Millie and I, we can get in the weeds about like art house bullshit, but we like, but we want to talk about it in a way that's like fun.

Speaker 4 And we also, we like highbrow and we like really lowbrow too. And so we want it to be like an inviting, fun.

Speaker 4 cute podcast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Millie, anything to add to that?

Speaker 3 Well, you know, I think I'm going to get deep, perhaps, a little deeper than Casey's just revealed.

Speaker 3 I personally, when I was,

Speaker 2 I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 You're not the himbo of the podcast, by the way.

Speaker 2 You're fine.

Speaker 2 You're not a film himbo, as

Speaker 2 I've heard in the past.

Speaker 3 I really, I think over the past couple of years, especially during COVID, especially during, I don't know, just like living and life and bad news and, you know, things happening in the world, I started really thinking about like my relationship to movies because as a person who like lives alone and

Speaker 3 a lot of

Speaker 3 and has worked in movies for over 20 years, I started thinking about like what, like, do I have an emotional relationship with movies? Like, of course they're entertaining. Of course, it's my job.

Speaker 3 Of course, it's an intellectual pursuit, I guess. But what's like my emotional relationship to it? Like, do they do things for me? Are they my comfort?

Speaker 2 Are they my partner for crying out loud? I mean, honestly.

Speaker 3 And I started thinking about it in that way where I was like, I don't know. Like, I think they are.

Speaker 3 Like, it's the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been like my refuge from all the bullshit. Right.

Speaker 3 And there's some kind of, I don't know, I have this like, you know, deep feeling of appreciation for like what the art form, I guess, if you want to call it that, has done for my life in that emotional kind of way and so that's why i think when we were like how what's the vibe you know i was like i don't know we just love movies we're like in love with movies we have we we like have crushes on movies and casey like immediately was like of course like i get it you know and so i don't know i think that that's sort of i think what the podcast is also about is it's about sort of like being in love with this wacky world that we're in and you know just sort of i don't know like being very earnest and sincere about it.

Speaker 4 So. Yeah.
And I think there's a lot of like

Speaker 4 judgment about like what movies you like or like

Speaker 4 what movies affect you the most. Like it's very easy to be like, oh, that's a, you know, people will throw movies, you know, I said this even earlier where I was like, this is a stupid movie.

Speaker 4 Like, I can't hardly wait or 10 things I hate about you, but those make me feel a certain way. And that is meaningful to me.
And so I think our movie wants our podcast wants to kind of,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 2 hold up all

Speaker 4 types of films and

Speaker 4 make them, you know, celebrate them equally. And they're meaningful equally.
It's more about like how these movies make us feel rather than, you know, the

Speaker 4 intellectual value that something has, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 What I love about that too is, I mean, it kind of reminds me of our podcast and even though true crime has nothing to to do with what you guys are doing, but it's finding your people, too, who can talk about this one movie for hours, even if they don't like it with you.

Speaker 2 And, you know, yeah, like the two of you found each other.

Speaker 2 And then your audience and your listeners are going to be like, absolutely, or no, you're wrong, but you're still connecting in a way that's hard to do these days.

Speaker 2 It feels like everyone's just kind of having these,

Speaker 2 you know, superficial connections. But if you have this like interest that you're so passionate about, you can really connect with people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like, and you know, listeners, when you listen to episode one, like there, you, you'll get that kind of that party, it's like movie party vibe where like the first time I listened to it, just your guys' chit chat, where each topic and each movie and each thing that came up, it was like all in

Speaker 1 like super interest, super passion.

Speaker 1 And, but then also just like these different takes where it's like, you know, waxing poetic about the magic mic trilogy, where it's like, I never thought about that before. That's really true.

Speaker 1 Like, just that kind of thing, where it's like, you can be, you can be deep and analytical kind of about anything you want, as long as you like it enough. And it felt like that, you know.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you.

Speaker 3 Yeah. There's also like an episode that we have coming up that I really love because it we're talking about a movie that Casey is extremely passionate about.

Speaker 3 And it was like a movie, like basically basically that his,

Speaker 3 the movie that radicalized him, that made him a film person,

Speaker 2 quote unquote.

Speaker 3 And it was, we, and it was a movie that I had a very different opinion on. And we talk all that out in a way that I think is really cool.

Speaker 2 Like

Speaker 3 just because there was something that he loves and connects with that didn't really

Speaker 3 get me in the same way. I was so like interested in just hearing him talk about it and hearing his relationship with it and sort of like what he liked about it.
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 I mean, I feel like that is something that, that our podcast is doing and will do really well is just having that mutual respect for each other's tastes.

Speaker 3 I mean, honestly, like, and that's something that I think is a thing that makes

Speaker 3 film people so

Speaker 3 annoying or intimidating is that you have like, like he said, like the wrong taste. You have bad taste.

Speaker 3 you don't like the right things and i don't really see it that way ever i don't ever see people having that like i don't i would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than

Speaker 1 just shitting on you for liking a movie i don't like do you know what i mean yeah i love that yeah so you guys on your podcast usually start by telling each other the movies that you've watched recently.

Speaker 1 What movies have you watched recently?

Speaker 4 Millie, you go first.

Speaker 3 Oh, God, I got to pull out my phone.

Speaker 2 Letterboxed.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh, she's going to go. She has to be legit.

Speaker 3 I got to be legit.

Speaker 1 Did you watch a movie today?

Speaker 3 I watched a movie last night in the past, so it's been the past 24 hours. I watched this movie called Better Man.
Have you heard of this movie?

Speaker 4 Is this the Robbie Williams movie?

Speaker 3 It is the Robbie Williams animatronic movie.

Speaker 1 He's a monkey.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 Actually, it's not animatronic. It's like weird CGI, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That movie, to me, was so much better than it had any right to be.

Speaker 2 I don't know why.

Speaker 3 I was like expecting to go at it being like, this is going to be one of the most genuinely bizarre, like weird outsider art things of our generation.

Speaker 2 And I was like, it's actually kind of good, like legit good. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Good for Robbie.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, he was a superstar.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, that's, that's what I think is so fascinating about it, to be honest, because I'm like, okay, they let this movie happen like now, where it's like, here's a star who, who was essentially not as famous here in America as he was, you know, in Europe, who hasn't really been around for like 20 years.

Speaker 3 And he's a monkey.

Speaker 3 And it's like, I'm like, and it's his life story. I was like, wow, I can't believe that they let that happen.
I was actually really impressed that that happened. So anyway.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 4 I feel like the whole narrative with Robbie Williams is like, nobody knows about him in America. And then like this movie came came out, and it was like, this movie's bombing in America.

Speaker 4 And it's like, we don't know who he is.

Speaker 2 Why don't we go see this movie? Right.

Speaker 1 We've never seen this monkey. We don't, we can't support this monkey.
We don't know him.

Speaker 2 Casey, what did you watch recently?

Speaker 4 Okay, so I watched this movie called, and I was really weeping during this movie.

Speaker 4 Truly, Madly Deeply. Have you ever seen this movie?

Speaker 1 This is like my favorite movie of all time.

Speaker 2 Oh, it is.

Speaker 4 I had never,

Speaker 4 I had like seen bits of it, but I watched it the other night and it's so beautiful and touching. It came out in like 1990.
It's with Alan Rickman and

Speaker 2 you told me about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Juliet Stevenson.

Speaker 4 Juliette Stevenson. And

Speaker 4 basically the premise is

Speaker 4 her boyfriend, Alan Rickman, dies, is dead.

Speaker 4 This is not a spoiler. This happened.
This is the beginning of the movie. But he comes back as a ghost.
And it's so romantic and sweet and silly.

Speaker 4 And I was like, this is like one of my new favorite movies of all time. I'm not even kidding.
It was

Speaker 2 literally writing it down right now.

Speaker 1 Well, also because it's so heavy. Like

Speaker 1 they don't try to clean anything up. It's not the American version of if a girl's boyfriend died that she lived with and obviously is her life partner.
It is like there's a scene.

Speaker 1 I think it begins with a scene where she's at the therapist sobbing and trying to explain how isolated she feels because he's gone and she's walking around and all these people are living life and whatever and she's ugly crying to a degree where it is like I was like who is this woman yes she's incredible she's such a good actress it's like showing grief the way it really is which is so hard for anyone to like do if you don't understand and the end total no spoiler but also be careful because of me because I don't I don't keep my promises but essentially the reveal should I not say the reveal don't say the reveal I don't don't want to know.

Speaker 2 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Cause that reveal when I first watched it, and same Casey, where it was me, my friend Dave Messmer, who we worked at the gap together, and his friend, and she's the one that was like, we have to watch this movie.

Speaker 1 And all three of us were sobbing at the end, like together,

Speaker 2 sobbing.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. And it was just one of those weird, like, it's just the perfect 90s, like real life.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I was immediately when the movie started, and it's like happy tears.
I feel like I felt good at the end of it. It's not like a downer.
It's a happy movie.

Speaker 2 No, I think. Okay.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 It's really beautiful. And I really, I truly, madly, deeply loved it.

Speaker 1 And who's the director? Do you remember Rafian? Yes.

Speaker 4 It's Anthony Mangela who did The English Patient and The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Speaker 2 It was his first movie. That's so movie.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Wow.
It's his first movie. Yeah.
Really. I'm saying, how did I miss that? As if I haven't missed every single fucking movie that has come out in the past.

Speaker 1 You're not movie people, which I think is what, like, this would be a perfect podcast for you because it's, I think, Casey and Millie kind of pulling people into the movie world.

Speaker 1 Like, it's going to be okay. We're with you.
Come in.

Speaker 2 You know what I am? I'm a, I find a movie I like and I watch it 40 times. And there's no other, and I don't watch any other movies.
It's not like, I love this director.

Speaker 2 I'm going to watch all their movies. I don't do that.

Speaker 4 I do that too. I do that too.

Speaker 2 Yeah. There's no shame.

Speaker 2 That's the thing with our podcast.

Speaker 4 There's no shame.

Speaker 1 yeah we are cringe but we are free we say that a lot we are cringe but we're free exactly yeah can you guys give individually or together as a as a team like three movies that you would recommend to people who love movies but are intimidated by by coming into like a cinema uh cinemagraphic world is that the right word like coming into the world of film people that's not so deep and like you have to understand the meaning of but it'll get you to those other movies that then

Speaker 2 you can appreciate because you, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like what do they call them? Like

Speaker 2 gateway. Gateway drugs.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I guess I have a question.

Speaker 4 How do you feel about subtitles? Because for some people, that's a big hurdle.

Speaker 2 I don't mind it. Okay.
I think the gateway part, though, for like the masses, there shouldn't be. So maybe one out of three, right?

Speaker 4 One out of three. Okay.

Speaker 2 Whatever's needed.

Speaker 4 Millie, do you have, did any come to mind immediately?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm thinking on it.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 3 this might be actually an interesting exercise because Casey and I are, I'm a little older than Casey.

Speaker 3 And I feel like this might be like, it's going to be showing our generational roots, perhaps. Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 Because I think about like what kind of got me into

Speaker 3 cinephilia, if you will. Like, what was the movie that was the the

Speaker 3 bridge between, like,

Speaker 2 I don't know,

Speaker 3 16 candles and,

Speaker 3 I don't know,

Speaker 3 three colors red or something. I'm trying to think of something.
I mean, I think for me.

Speaker 4 She's speaking in kind of film gibberish language right now.

Speaker 2 So thank you for that.

Speaker 4 If you didn't understand that, don't worry, everybody.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, to me, I think when I first kind of was like in high school and in college and I was kind kind of making that jump, I mean, honestly, I think it was a lot of the American independent stuff from the 90s.

Speaker 3 So like I'm thinking of things like, you know, Jim Jarmish,

Speaker 3 Stranger Than Paradise or Down by Law or,

Speaker 3 you know, Allison Anders.

Speaker 3 gas food lodging, you know, this kind of stuff that was sort of like in the kind of indie cinema stuff in the 90s.

Speaker 3 That's when I was kind of like, oh, yeah, there was like, you know, SNL comedies and then there's this, right?

Speaker 3 And so that's kind of how I started kind of getting into like more of a kind of cinema world, right?

Speaker 3 Um, but then I also think too, stuff like

Speaker 3 Stanley Kubrick's like The Shining, that those types of movies that are kind of like horror, but then kind of what they would call maybe like elevated horror now, which drives me crazy.

Speaker 3 But, you know, in a way, it's like, here's a horror movie, which is kind of traditionally a genre that brings in a a lot of like young people. It's kind of broad audience stuff, but then like

Speaker 3 it's a little bit more stylish and is a little bit more open-ended in terms of themes. So maybe something like that, like The Shining.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 3 for a third, I mean, I gotta say, I mean, again, this is sort of like maybe for a little, people who are a little bit younger, but like those like early Wes Anderson movies, like Bob Rocket or like,

Speaker 3 I mean, Rushmore was kind of my favorite out of that stuff. But, you know, even like World Tennamoms, I feel like that kind of stuff

Speaker 3 would basically set you up in terms of, okay, so here's like an auteurist director who has, who's building a sort of cinema language for his work. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 And that's kind of, I don't know, maybe if you're kind of getting into that kind of stuff, that would be like a good entry point.

Speaker 2 That's perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Actually, my niece, Sophie, texted me because she went and saw The Shining at the theater. And she was like, hey, I just saw The Shining.
You've seen that, right?

Speaker 1 And I was just like, This is so weird. Of course.
I was like, Yes, of course. She's like, It was so good.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, Yeah, it was like the cutest kind of discovery moment that she wanted, she brought to me. Cause she was like, I feel like you're the kind of person that would appreciate that movie.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 I really do.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I would say, I think that's right. On, I think there are some like gateway directors that are like kind of like how, you know, cinephile sort of like found their way into

Speaker 4 movies

Speaker 4 for my age. You know, Millie mentioned I'm very young.

Speaker 4 That, so like, I would say Paul Thomas Anderson is a really good director to kind of follow his career because he did like Boogie Nights, which is

Speaker 4 art house film, I would say, but also like a major studio film.

Speaker 4 But then, you know, he did like there will be blood a few years later, which is a lot, I would say, darker and weirder.

Speaker 4 And that was like nominated for like best picture and stuff, but it kind of is a good way to like get into

Speaker 4 more of the like highbrow, you know, cinephile movies.

Speaker 4 And then, so that's like more on the easier end. And I would say, like, you know, we're recording this today

Speaker 2 one of the great film directors died

Speaker 4 yeah david lynch my favorite director and uh he's like a great

Speaker 4 that he's kind of you have to if you want to get into film you have to see some of his movies and i would say the entry point for that for him would be blue velvet i would say

Speaker 4 it's a weird it feels weird it feels like this is like no other movie i've ever seen but the plot makes sense and you can understand why things are happening where that cannot be said for most of his other movies.

Speaker 4 So that's like a good, if you want to get into David Lynch, I would say start with Blue Velvet.

Speaker 2 You know, I think that's so true. That's why Mulhole and Drive is one of my favorite movies of all time is because the first time I watched it, I was like, there's no plot.
I don't get it. Totally.

Speaker 2 Like there's no, you know, it's just a movie. There's no plot.
And then I watched it again and I was like, holy fuck.

Speaker 2 Like the way it blew my mind that when I could finally follow the plot blew it so hard that nothing has ever lived up to that again yeah i would totally agree because we we did that uh movie for like one of the last episodes of i saw what you did and i had seen it like

Speaker 3 maybe twice in the past once when it came out which i was totally with you georgia like was like i don't know what's going on whatever yeah it's a vibe i guess it's a vibe yeah and but i don't know anything um and then the second time i watched it i was you know like maybe sort of getting into it a little bit more but then when we re-watched it for the episode i had this like revelation and i was like i know everything about this movie and i wanted like i told danielle i was like we're gonna have to really watch the clock because i could talk about this movie for like four or five hours i have so much to say it's like everything clicks together yeah all of a sudden

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 When I saw that movie, my friend Danny and I hated it so much that like five days later, we were at a barbecue together and a guy we did not know

Speaker 1 happened to nearby us say that he liked that movie. And we haranged him until he left the party.

Speaker 2 Because we were like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Which is, of course, our very, their very 90s personality, which was lauded back then where you were just like overtly hostile for no reason to every single person.

Speaker 1 But it was this thing of like, I don't know what you're talking about. But it's like, of course, that's what David Lynch is trying to get you to do.

Speaker 1 He's like, do you like this or do you absolutely hate it? Okay, here's a little more.

Speaker 1 Like, I just think that part of it is making people who maybe wouldn't even think to do it suddenly talk about movies, know what they like about movies, like know that their opinion counts about movies.

Speaker 1 It's cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Totally.

Speaker 1 With R.I.P. to a great one.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It spums me out, not as a huge movie person, but just like having a weirdo in the world is like really comforting, you know, like Paul Rubens kind of a thing where it's like, it's comforting to know there are people out there doing whatever the fuck they want to do.

Speaker 4 Well, I think David Lynch is special as an artist

Speaker 4 outside of like the movies he made because his whole thing was like, you do not need to suffer to make great art. That was like his big message.

Speaker 4 And I think that a lot of people feel like when you make art or any sort of like project, you're like, you need to die for this. You need to starve yourself, you know?

Speaker 4 And I feel like David Lynch was very much like, no, you need to be like, it's better to be a happy person making art. And you can still make art about dark things.

Speaker 4 And God knows he did, but it's like, you still need to like take care of yourself. And I think that's a good message.

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Speaker 1 Millie, did you say what your movie most recent was? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Better man.

Speaker 1 Oh, so sorry. I got so excited about Truly Matter Details because that's like, it's literally like I made that movie.
Nobody knows that movie ever.

Speaker 1 And like, I'm always telling people, you got to watch it.

Speaker 4 I was shocked. I looked on Letterboxd and like no one I follow has watched it.
And I was surprised because I was like, this, it's just, it's an incredible film.

Speaker 3 You, Casey, you have like in the past have done this very similar thing where you have pulled out like this unknown rom-com and have become like its number one fan. I think that's lovely about you.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 3 I was like, oh, this like fucking weird rom-com that no one's seen in like 30 years. Casey, five stars on Litterboxed.
Now nobody else I know has seen it and then I'm compelled to go watch it.

Speaker 4 So I'm a lover. I'm a feeler.
And I love digging up these rom-coms. No one's watching.
I love it.

Speaker 2 Casey, are you so excited to finally get some fucking attention in this podcasting world since you're kind of no longer a producer?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've been behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Finally. Yes, I get to emerge from behind the

Speaker 2 sweet spots. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 I'm thrilled. I mean, it was such an honor that Millie, you know, reached her hand down into the gutter and pulled me out of it and

Speaker 2 allowed me to be wise down there. Yeah, Pennywise.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How did you guys come to that idea that

Speaker 1 this is a movie podcast? Like, what was the thinking behind all of that?

Speaker 4 Well, like, I saw what you did was ending

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 Millie wanted to do another show. And I was kind of like, well, I was like, please let me produce it.
So that was sort of the impetus.

Speaker 4 Just, you know, Millie making a new movie show.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we joked about this.

Speaker 3 We joke about this in the pilot episode, actually. I don't know if I should say it, but

Speaker 3 that I was like basically like Bradley Cooper and a star is born. And I like found

Speaker 3 Casey, the Lady Gaga character, like doing a little burlesque in a shitty bar.

Speaker 2 And I was like,

Speaker 3 come in my limo. I'm going to make a star movie.
No, I was like, here's the thing about Casey. Like, I have heard him on other podcasts before.

Speaker 3 And he's so charismatic, so funny, knows a lot about movies, like has, like, you know, when you have, when you hear people or you meet people that have, like, you know, you have like similar opinions about things, and it's like, yes, they get, they would get me.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Very crucial for me. I just have to say, and by personality, I need to be understood.
That is like my lot in life.

Speaker 3 And so I was like, oh, here's somebody who I think we line on a lot of similar stuff. And we're not like the types to like the same things.
That's what I'm saying, which I love.

Speaker 3 I love that we don't like the same things necessarily. But our reasons for liking and hating things are the same, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 You respect that the other person's wrong, essentially.

Speaker 3 Or like the reason why you don't like something is the reason why I wouldn't like something.

Speaker 2 Right. You know, right? Even though those two things would probably are different, I guess.

Speaker 3 Totally.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I would hear him on these other podcasts. And yeah, I mean, it was just like, well, I want to do a show with him.
Does he want to do a show with me?

Speaker 1 Is the name of the eternal question? Totally.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, it was just so funny, Millie. I feel like up until recently, like, just checking in, you want to do this show with me, right?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 4 no, I mean, I feel like Millie and I always like,

Speaker 4 we always connected really

Speaker 4 well. And I wanted to keep working with her if she wanted to keep making podcasts.
So that was sort of the, like the beginning of the show.

Speaker 1 We want to get a sense of through the movie, we're just trying to do the movie thing along with you. We want to get a sense of who you are as people.
What do you get when you go to the movie theater?

Speaker 1 What is your snack combination?

Speaker 4 This is a great question. And actually, I feel like a lot of our show is like about the like movie watching ritual too, like what we do when we watch movies.

Speaker 4 I always get popcorn and I always try to get a cherry coke.

Speaker 2 Those are kind of my

Speaker 4 go-to. It's hard for me to incorporate candy into it because if I need the, I need the pop and then I need, but the candy in the pop is just too much sweetness.
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 That's the popcorn and cherry coke is my go-to.

Speaker 2 That's lovely. That's nice.

Speaker 3 The popcorn thing is absolutely like I movie theater popcorn always gives me a stomachache, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 Me too. That's like the problem.

Speaker 3 I was just like, I don't care if I'm on the toilet for like three days after this.

Speaker 2 I have to go. I have to eat it.
Like, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And then I'm with you, Casey.
Like, what I started, I was always for a very long time, the peanut MMs on top of the popcorn.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yes.
100%.

Speaker 3 Which I used to call like Trail Mix.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's like Trail Mix.

Speaker 3 This is healthy, right? But then lately, I've been because I, yeah, don't want to get the soda if you're getting candy.

Speaker 2 So I switch.

Speaker 3 And now it's either that I get the popcorn in a Coke icy.

Speaker 2 Ooh,

Speaker 3 you know, which is the only time I ever drink full flavor Coke. I usually do not drink.
I usually do like diet or Coke Zero or

Speaker 1 but in an icy, it's the most delicious thing of all time.

Speaker 3 I have to. So good.
So it's either that, and then I alternate with the M ⁇ M, the peanut M ⁇ Ms, but always popcorn.

Speaker 2 So. Can I ask you guys a question? You guys are all movie goers.
I don't go to the theater. And I've always wondered this.
Are you supposed to finish your snacks before the movie starts?

Speaker 2 That always blew my mind where it's like, you have to save it.

Speaker 2 You're supposed to eat it before, right?

Speaker 3 I can't help myself sometimes.

Speaker 1 You mean like in the 15 minutes of trailers and stuff?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then everyone stops eating at the when the movie starts. So I feel self-conscious chewing loudly when the.

Speaker 4 Wait, so you feel self-conscious chewing when the movie has started? You think you need to scarf the food?

Speaker 2 It seems like everyone else has art finishes their, I don't know if it was like a rule that I just didn't fucking know.

Speaker 1 I don't, I've never finished my snacks before.

Speaker 1 I mean, not to say it's like, it's not like I've haven't put in a put a serious dent in, but to me, part of the joy of like the big bucket of popcorn and watching a movie is like the zone out and just insane,

Speaker 1 just like, okay, just shoveling it into your face in the dark. That's the fun of it.

Speaker 2 Okay. That's good to know.

Speaker 3 I, a lot of times I do,

Speaker 3 I don't know if it's to a completion, but I, I'm like 75% there.

Speaker 2 Me too. That's exactly what I was going to say.

Speaker 4 I'm 75%

Speaker 4 there. You know, I'm peeking at the, right when the movie starts, and then I can pick my spots when I get out there.

Speaker 3 It's not out of respect, though.

Speaker 2 It's out of just me being gross and I'm like, I'm starving.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then sometimes I do a thing where I will, you know, go to that 75%

Speaker 3 and then save the 25 and then we'll dip in like an hour into the mill. Sure.

Speaker 2 Into the film.

Speaker 3 So I'll just like pick it back up again.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's like, I remember I had this. But

Speaker 3 yeah, I, I, I'm housing that shit.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm like, hell yeah. Okay.
It's good to know. Honestly, I'm like, been worried.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about those other people. I have a follow-up to that question, which is, who's the most famous person you've ever seen at the concession stand at the Arc Light here in Los Angeles?

Speaker 2 Oh, shit.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 3 Danielle and I saw

Speaker 3 somebody

Speaker 3 that was on Seinfeld, not as a main character, but some recurring, and now I can't remember who it was. Was it like a Patrick Warburton or something like that? But we saw,

Speaker 3 but it was definitely the guy with the white hair. Yeah, it was definitely some

Speaker 3 beloved side character from Seinfeld we saw at the

Speaker 2 Arclight.

Speaker 4 The Arclight was a good place to spot celebrities, I feel like, or like

Speaker 4 known people.

Speaker 4 I don't know why this guy popped into my head, but I was seeing Nope at the Arclight. I think it was Nope, or it was Us, one of the Jordan Peele movies, and Tom Morello was getting popcorn.

Speaker 4 Of Rage Against the Machine guitarist was good,

Speaker 2 popcorn.

Speaker 3 That is a good one. I was always so jealous whenever I would hear the stories of Kiana Reeves going to the Arc Light.

Speaker 3 And I was like, when does he go? And how come I'm not there at the same time?

Speaker 2 I saw him at the Beverly Center. You got to go to the mall, too.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 Beverly Center.

Speaker 1 I mean, the only reason I wrote that question in was because I saw Colin Farrell at the Arclay concession sand. So I reverse engineered that entire thing simply to be able to tell that story again.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, we're Feral for Feral.

Speaker 2 We are.

Speaker 3 We're a pro-Feral podcast. We know that.

Speaker 1 How could you be anti?

Speaker 1 I challenge you, but I swear to God, I felt him coming from like 500 paces. I was just like, what's this? There's electricity in the air down here in the lower concession area.
And then I looked over.

Speaker 1 There he was, glasses, headband,

Speaker 2 weird workout clothes.

Speaker 1 He absolutely was like,

Speaker 1 the aura was like 20 feet in front of him. He knew it.
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Speaker 2 It's like an A. Gorgeous.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 2 You guys, do you have a favorite movie theater? moment now that we're talking about them? Besides finishing all the amazing food.

Speaker 1 What radicalized you in the movie theater?

Speaker 4 millie had kind of a crazy one recently this isn't a good memory but this is something bad that happened where someone was throwing a yeah a fire firecracker during furiosa

Speaker 2 yes

Speaker 3 it was insane like did you do it oh no i wish no it was uh it was uh an hour into furiosa oh someone

Speaker 3 all i know is that it was packed it was like the thursday that it came out so it was like no empty seat.

Speaker 3 And then all of a sudden you would see, you saw this like fireball sail through the air.

Speaker 2 Jesus.

Speaker 3 Landed in like the first like five rows of seats. And then everybody just jumped up.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And every, like the whole theater, it was like we were in this.

Speaker 3 like frozen moment of we were like waiting for an explosion or something it was like really hard so everybody was like stood up and like kind of moving towards the emergency exits, but nobody was, we were kind of like frozen, waiting to see like what would happen with the fire.

Speaker 3 Like either it was gonna just fizzle out, explode, somebody was gonna like get burned. We were just waiting for something to happen.
And then by the by the time

Speaker 3 anything was supposed to happen, the fire alarm got pulled and every, they were like clearing people out. So we had to leave.

Speaker 2 Anyway, that's you can't do that these fucking, that's an 80s trick. Oh, fucking.

Speaker 3 And this movie theater I'm gonna I'm gonna call it this movie theater out in Atlanta chronically

Speaker 3 there's always teenage antics at this place

Speaker 3 and if you every time because this is not the first time I've there's been some malarkey here and like this is the problem with the movies is that it's not just teenagers running

Speaker 3 uh, you know, scams, but it's like the teenagers run the place. So they're in cahoots.

Speaker 3 And so nothing gets done. There's no policy that gets enacted because of this.
And so

Speaker 3 every time something has happened in this movie theater, including the fireworks saga, I have asked one of my friends that has kids, I was like, is it a school holiday? And they were like, yes.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 3 So the messaging is that on a school holiday, the kids go to the movie theater and cause trouble. So now I see a way.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
They're like, that's their way to party. This is what I think every movie's like.
That's why I don't call it.

Speaker 2 It's always firecrackers and somebody. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Especially that movie's,

Speaker 1 it's already so tense and so much going on. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it was like, we had to get, we got a pass to come back to see the last hour of it.

Speaker 2 Like an hour into it.

Speaker 3 It was so annoying. But

Speaker 3 I don't know, Casey, what about you?

Speaker 4 Do you have any memorable film or movie theater experience?

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, I kind of talked about this on one of our episodes

Speaker 4 where I had to like yell at those old people because they were in my seat. I've had a lot of issues with people sitting in my seat when it's a reserved seat.

Speaker 4 I don't know how you both feel about the reserved seats in the movie theaters, but I like it. I like having a reserved seat for myself.
And my wife and I were in the theater. It was like a sold-out.

Speaker 4 theater. We were seeing the big short, and we got there right when the movie started.
And there were these,

Speaker 4 uh, I go to the, this is at the arc light. And I go to like the guy working.
I'm like, where are our seats? I can't even see. It's so dark.

Speaker 4 And he's like, they're up there, but I can see that there's a guy sitting in your seat. So you're going to have to ask him to move.
And I'm like, oh, God. So

Speaker 4 basically, it was this elderly couple. And they're, imagine there are four seats and they own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle.

Speaker 4 And we own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle two.

Speaker 2 And so they have to. No, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 I'm angry. They have to scoot over one, you know, to make room for us.

Speaker 4 And so I go up and I'm like, hi, um, sir, you are in my seat. And he's like, what?

Speaker 2 And I was like,

Speaker 4 and the movie has started. And I was like, you're, oh, you're in my seat.
I paid for these seats.

Speaker 4 And his wife is like, what's going on?

Speaker 2 And I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 4 I was like, please. And the movie has started.
And I'm like, please move over one seat. And then the people behind them are like, why are these people standing in the middle of the movie?

Speaker 2 And it's like,

Speaker 4 I was like, this is my ticket.

Speaker 2 Move over one.

Speaker 4 And finally, they did get the message and move over one. But that was a pretty harrowing experience.

Speaker 2 And you have to sit next to them. And I have to sit next to them the whole time.
No. Hold on a second, though.

Speaker 1 Just to devil's advocate. Okay.
Why were you so late?

Speaker 4 That's what my mom said to me, too. She was like, well, it's your fault you were late to the movie.
So I mean,

Speaker 4 I,

Speaker 4 you know, I, that's true. I can't deny I was, I was wrong for being late to the movie.

Speaker 1 The last time we went to the movies, it was a very similar situation, except for I was the late one. And the movie theater for some, it was in my hometown.

Speaker 1 It was so dark inside the movie theater that I couldn't find the rows walking, like the letter row walking up and no idea what the number of seats. So my cousin is up there somewhere.

Speaker 1 And I walk halfway down and it's pitch black. Like I can't see anything.

Speaker 1 And it's one of those ones where, you know, the newfangled movie theater seats where it's like a lazy boy recliners so i'm walking really slow because i don't want to slam my shins into a recliner thing and i just am like guessing as to where my seat would be or where my cousin is and i so i'm bending over and trying to look into people's faces and i go like halfway down walking really slow and i just go like anna and then this girl just goes No.

Speaker 2 Oh, no. And then I just, so I keep going.

Speaker 1 And then I just end up very slowly running into the wall because this is one of those small theaters and it doesn't have stairs on either side. It was just like,

Speaker 1 I just got to the end by touching my nose to a carpeted wall.

Speaker 2 That hurts me. It was so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 That is just so scary, though. It's so, it can be so dark in there.
And there's like, you know, there's like dozens of people sitting quietly and you're like trying to navigate them.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's like a horror movie.

Speaker 2 And they can see you fine because their eyes are adjusted. Yes.

Speaker 1 And it was the beginning of a complete unknown where

Speaker 1 it's so dark and they're in a hospital while someone is dying of a degenerative disease.

Speaker 2 And you're like, eh.

Speaker 1 So when I hit the wall, my cousin Sophie is the one that's there.

Speaker 2 And she goes, Did you just run into the wall?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, thanks for your help.

Speaker 2 And she goes, I couldn't see you. I didn't know it was you until you started laughing.

Speaker 3 That's so funny you said that because I saw that movie in the theater too.

Speaker 3 And the opening, the first like five minutes of a complete unknown is so dark that I thought I was about to to go to the projection booth and be like, Could you like, I don't know if the, you know, the movie's playing right or whatever.

Speaker 3 And I, because I, there were people just like you who were like fumbling, stumbling because it was so, I was like, why is this gonna be so dark? I don't understand where we're at.

Speaker 2 It was crazy. Yeah.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 Wild.

Speaker 1 Should we let you guys host a little bit? What, you know, you guys host, like, it's your podcast. Yes.

Speaker 2 You go. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We have a few questions here lined up. Millie, do you, what, what should we start with here?

Speaker 2 Um, gosh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 You know, this is

Speaker 3 we were talking about, you know, kind of what we're going to do for this podcast, like how we're going to set it up and what are these like questions that we want to ask our guests, right?

Speaker 3 Um, and one of the things that came to mind, I mean, again, like this, this podcast that we're doing is also about like movie culture.

Speaker 3 So, you know, we're talking about not just like movie theater going, but like video stores and, you know, just

Speaker 3 stuff that if you're into movies or there's like these little rituals and these little, you know, little

Speaker 3 things that we do. And one of the questions that we like to ask is,

Speaker 3 imagine that you're in a video store.

Speaker 3 And so if you're, you know, going through the video store, what's like the first VHS or DVD cover that comes to mind when you enter into a video store?

Speaker 2 Do you have yours? I do. Oh, good, good.
It's not going to be the same for sure.

Speaker 1 It'd be amazing if it was. Same at the same time?

Speaker 2 One, two, three. Twins.
A fish called Wanda. Oh, a fish called Wanda.

Speaker 4 I can see both of those perfectly in my head.

Speaker 3 Oh my God, so much.

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Well, how did that happen? Why is that? Twins. For some reason,

Speaker 2 that's the one with

Speaker 2 Schwarzenegger. Danny DeVito, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Now, what's your relationship with that movie, Georgia? Do you have a relationship?

Speaker 2 Yes. I was the right age and every other weekend at my dad's house, my single dad.
And so we had a, we would have to rent a VCR from

Speaker 2 the video store. We weren't going to do that.
And so we just fucking love that movie and watch the shit out of it. I'm sure it's so inappropriate for children now.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 Very good.

Speaker 4 And Karen, what about Official Wanda? Do you have any relationship with that movie?

Speaker 1 Well, the first thing I saw was Kevin Klein with his like balancing on something, which actually could be from a different movie. But I'm picturing him.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like he had that spate, this run of movies from like 84 to 95, where it was like that he would, he, it would be Kevin Klein on the spine of a VHS tape, like balancing on a chair or like having a mustache.

Speaker 2 Both these movies are posing for the cover. Yeah.
Like they're not like take a clip from the movie. They're like the cast.
Yes.

Speaker 2 I totally see it. The visual, the visual part.

Speaker 1 But I think the Kevin Klein,

Speaker 1 anything he was doing, I wanted to be there for it. And my family would be too.
Like, A Fish Called Wanda made my parents laugh so hard.

Speaker 1 It was one of those kinds of that and the four seasons, like where you're like, what's going on that they like this so much?

Speaker 1 So then it made me pay more attention to like the actual comedy because I was interested in like what what was everyone doing that was eliciting that response? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They weren't because they were not easy laughers and they were like crying laughing. So I think it was that piece of it where it's like kind of what our family liked a little bit.

Speaker 4 It is funny because I feel like you mentioned that they like, these are both like posing for the poster. And I feel like that's such a lost art.

Speaker 4 Everything's photoshopped now or it's like a still taken from the movie or something.

Speaker 2 But like very poorly too.

Speaker 2 These weird, like, it looks like a Hallmark movie poster, but it's like a big budget movie.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I don't know if people, they just can't be, you know, these stars can't, don't want to get back together for a fun little shoot or something.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Get in front of that white psych and

Speaker 2 sell this thing.

Speaker 4 Well, very good. That's, I love that.
Millie, you know what? I don't feel like you have answered that question. What, what, what's, what's like the VHS cover that comes to your mind?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 3 I mean, I was such a video store loser as a kid. I mean, I was there constantly.
And it was just like, you know, well, first of all, my parents never let us go to the movie theater.

Speaker 3 They were too cheap to let us go to first-run movies. So we were at the video store constantly.
And I, all of my good memories from video stores come from the horror movie section.

Speaker 3 It's just what clicked in my brain. And so I think for me, the first one that comes to mind is

Speaker 3 the cover for a movie called Happy Birthday to Me.

Speaker 3 And it's a basically a

Speaker 3 shish kebab skewer going through a guy's mouth into the back of his head.

Speaker 2 Happy birthday to me.

Speaker 2 I have never even heard of this movie. What? Oh my god.
It's a classic.

Speaker 2 You know it? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was in the solid horror section, which I wouldn't necessarily be that interested in, but you would kind of love the, like, I was thinking that would always be next to like Christine.

Speaker 1 And then like something else. So you'd be like, oh, I would watch a Stephen King.
Oh, my God. Happy birthday to me.
Or like the one where the like she will have her revenge.

Speaker 1 There was some really dark late 70s horror that would get mixed in there. So then it would just be like, well, we can't rent that, but what is it? Like, what's happening over there?

Speaker 3 There was another one that is in that era, I think, or around that era. The movie was.

Speaker 3 I think the movie is called Phenomena by Dario Argento, the, you know, Italian horror director, but it was called Creepers.

Speaker 3 And it was basically the photo, the cover was like an illustration of Jennifer Conley, the actress Jennifer Conley, with half of her face being ripped off by like insects.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of bugs in phenomena. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Aka creepers.

Speaker 3 And this is just on a shelf at my height, which at the time I was probably like, what, three feet tall or something? I mean, I was like, and I'm going, yeah, this is like totally ruining my life.

Speaker 3 Like all of these little boxes, they were so evocative, so freaky. And it just, you know, those are the things that I kind of gravitated towards, I think.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 And you were in there, like staring at these boxes, like you were, it was quiet like the library.

Speaker 1 And you were desperate to pick something that would actually entertain you because that was like your one chance where it's like, go find something.

Speaker 1 And then it was like, what will I pick that will actually make me happy?

Speaker 2 And your sibling can't.

Speaker 2 You guys have to agree on it. Yeah.
That's the worst part.

Speaker 4 Fabulous. I love talking about VHS covers in the video store because I just think it's like a a top, it's like when you sort of start learning, like

Speaker 4 movies become evocative to you at a very young age where you're like, what is that? I need to know what that is. And I think that's sort of.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, my sister and I snuck into the x-rated.

Speaker 2 We pushed the curtain aside and ran into the x-rated video store section. Yes.
When no one was looking.

Speaker 1 How was it?

Speaker 2 I read about this in our book. was like,

Speaker 2 I was so overwhelmed. I'm like, you have to look at one and you have to pay attention.
You have to like focus on it or you're not going to see anything, you know, know, because I was so overwhelmed.

Speaker 4 That's really good. That's like a mature

Speaker 4 thought process going into this.

Speaker 2 It's like, circle, circle, circle, and it's like, just look at something. And so I looked at it.
It was called Naked with Shoes On.

Speaker 2 And it blew my mind. Interesting.

Speaker 2 She had like tennis, you know, like LA gear tennis shoes and like scrunched socks and was like clearly naked everywhere else. Naked with shoes on.
I was like, oh my God, that's a thing.

Speaker 2 Like, I didn't realize adults were like.

Speaker 4 into it naked with shoes on.

Speaker 3 That is so, such a weird concept now that I think think about it because like

Speaker 3 my local video store had that section as well curtained off. So you're predictably like in the family video store with like other people in your community.
So you're seeing like neighbors.

Speaker 4 You're seeing your pastor. You're seeing your

Speaker 3 then all of a sudden it's like your friend's dad like disappears behind the curtain.

Speaker 2 And I'm like,

Speaker 3 that would never like, that is such a weird concept. I don't know if that would happen these days.
Like nobody wants to

Speaker 3 be in the X-rated video section while people are running twins, right?

Speaker 2 It's like a different vibe.

Speaker 1 It's like perves go in the back.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They don't want that for themselves. No.

Speaker 2 But they all had that, though. They did.

Speaker 1 It was like, it was always like beaded curtain, kind of like, here's the sexy area.

Speaker 2 Did you ever rent anything when you got older?

Speaker 1 In the beaded, sexy area?

Speaker 2 No. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Yeah, me neither.

Speaker 1 I just watched The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover a bunch of times.

Speaker 4 That's a great art house movie. I love it.

Speaker 2 I don't know, though.

Speaker 1 It's very sexy and dirty and

Speaker 1 a lot of like pate on naked bodies.

Speaker 4 Yes, I think Helen Mirren is like covered in rotting meat. completely nude at some point in that film.

Speaker 2 Sexy. Yes.
Yeah, excellent. But does she have shoes on?

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 The idea that they just named it what the thing is is the funniest.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love it so much.

Speaker 2 And I tried to look it up and I can't find it. Like it might not exist in real life.
It might just exist in my mind. I want to ask one last question.
Do you guys have a dream guest?

Speaker 2 And David Lynch, R.I.P., that would have been amazing.

Speaker 2 But do either of you have a dream guest?

Speaker 3 I mean, Keanu Reeves.

Speaker 2 I say that every podcast. Every film podcast.

Speaker 3 I always say Keanu Reeves.

Speaker 2 Could happen. Could.
I'd love for that to happen. He loves movies.
He does. Yeah.
He does. Turns out.
He Always has.

Speaker 4 I feel like one that I thought would, I was like, if we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast, I mean, he's like such a movie lover. That's why I feel like he would fit in well with our show.

Speaker 4 But so he would be a dream guest of mine.

Speaker 2 Tip those out into the universe.

Speaker 3 And I'll appeal to him as a fellow Italian American. And I will start talking about, you know, cannolis and

Speaker 3 other Italian things. And hopefully he'll come.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 I watched a documentary first with my dad about the automat in New York City that he was in and talked very passionately about the auto mat and what the automat was like.

Speaker 1 It was hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, he would be awesome.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. Yeah, that's a good one.
We'll get on that here at exactly right now.

Speaker 1 We're going to do everything we can.

Speaker 2 All right. Do you guys have, is there anything else you want to talk about? Or a plug or anything?

Speaker 3 No, we just really, we just really are so thankful for you both

Speaker 4 for, you know,

Speaker 3 respecting the vision and

Speaker 3 helping us get it going. And we're just so happy to

Speaker 3 be back doing film podcasts with Exactly Wright. I mean, I had such a great experience the first time.
And like when we were talking about ending, you know, I saw what you did. I was like,

Speaker 2 no, I want to stay. Don't blow me out of my dream.

Speaker 3 So I was, you know, like. really, really excited that we kind of kept it in the fam, you know, with Casey.
And I don't know. I'm just really, really excited about what we can do.

Speaker 3 And we hope that everybody enjoys it and takes a listen.

Speaker 2 So I mean, it was an easy hell yes when we heard the pitch. It was just like, fucking absolutely.
Yeah. I can't wait to see what you guys do.
And

Speaker 1 it's great. It's exciting.
It's great.

Speaker 1 I will definitely miss I Saw What You Did because as a film historian and a great writer, Millie, you just would kind of present these, the movies that you and Danielle would talk through.

Speaker 1 And it would be like Danielle would just be kind of the person who was like, oh, I just saw this for the first time.

Speaker 1 And then you would be, you would present kind of the other side of like, well, here are all the things I know about this.

Speaker 1 And it's so deeply interesting to me because you are so good at that and you have been doing it for so long.

Speaker 1 But listening to the two of you guys talk, and it's much more kind of like up-to-date conversational recommendations, what's going on. It's day and date.

Speaker 1 It's almost like a little, it's like your movie newsletter as opposed to your movie thesis, which both so valid.

Speaker 1 But you guys, as a combination, is just like so charming and easy to listen to as a podcast.

Speaker 2 So great. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Oh, one thing I want to pitch is, or a plug, I should say, is the Softies, the band The Softies, they do the theme song to our show, and they're one of my favorite bands.

Speaker 4 And we're an inspiration to kind of the vibe of the podcast. So it was like such a thrill to have them do the theme song.
So if I'm plugging anything, they have a new album, The Bed I Made.

Speaker 4 You can listen to that.

Speaker 2 But they did that.

Speaker 2 I love them. That's exciting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a perfect, their theme song is so so perfect and lovely.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 It's so cute. You guys, congratulations.

Speaker 1 We love your show. We can't wait for everyone else to hear it.

Speaker 2 It's so great. Dear Movies, I love you launches on January 28th, and new episodes will air every Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Also, don't forget to listen, subscribe, and give that show a five-star rating. It really deserves it.

Speaker 1 And also, stay sexy.

Speaker 2 And don't get murdered.

Speaker 2 G'day.

Speaker 3 Elvis, do you want a cookie?

Speaker 1 This has been an exactly right production.

Speaker 2 Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.

Speaker 1 Our managing producer is Hannah Kyle Creighton.

Speaker 2 Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

Speaker 1 This episode was mixed by Liana Squalace.

Speaker 2 Our researchers are Maren McClashin and Ali Elkin.

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