Kylie & Ms. Rachel on Surprising Celeb DMs, Spelling Out Swears & Teen Slang Pop Quiz | Ep. 30

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Speaker 2 I'm not going to lie, before we started recording, I had both an everything bagel and a gooey chocolate chip cookie. So I was really living life on the edge.

Speaker 2 I did check for seeds in my teeth and chocolate on my face, though. So hopefully I got all of it.

Speaker 2 Let's get this podcast started.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a wave original brought to you by Lululemon. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey.
I'm permanently late. I famously do not lie, except to my children.

Speaker 2 And I sent Queen Emma no less than seven photos of turtles when we went to the zoo the other day. I didn't want her to miss out.
Look at how lovely these photos are.

Speaker 2 Well, now that that's been addressed, coming up on today's episode, I'm about to start coaching high school field hockey again very soon. Yes, that's right.
I haven't let it go and I won't.

Speaker 2 I haven't had a fall without field hockey since seventh grade, either coaching or playing myself.

Speaker 2 We have actually a segment today to catch us up on the latest Gen Z terms because I can't keep up with the slang that they use and I need to know what the hell my players are saying.

Speaker 2 Also, a lot of you have tagged me in the announcement of Love is Blind casting in Philly. And I've got a lot of thoughts and a few tips for anyone auditioning.

Speaker 2 After that, I'm going to be joined by the Kids TV phenomenon in my house and likely all of yours.

Speaker 2 She has 16 million YouTube subscribers, the most streamed kids series on Netflix, and a pair of overalls you'd recognize anywhere. The one and only, Miss Rachel.

Speaker 2 Moving on, let's get into a brand new edition of, Can I Be Honest? My high school field hockey preseason is about to start very soon.

Speaker 2 People are extremely surprised by the fact that I still coach high school field hockey, but I love it. I love my athletes.
I love still getting to be around the sport of field hockey.

Speaker 2 I love the fact that all of my girls who are seniors, I have been with for all four years because I've been there that long.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 feel very honored and privileged to be able to spend time with them and help them understand why I love the sport the way I do and also teach them something. I hope.

Speaker 2 I hope. Now, I do like to take some time to prep before the season starts, and I figured I'd start right now by catching up on the latest Gen Z and Gen Alpha slang.

Speaker 2 I didn't even know we were. Have we moved on from Gen Z? We're on to Gen Alpha.

Speaker 2 Kiss my ass.

Speaker 2 Wait. The children that are in high school were born

Speaker 2 after I graduated high school. Let's have a moment of silence for this realization, please.

Speaker 2 That sucks.

Speaker 2 Wow, this is not a moment I was prepared to handle this morning. Okay.
Wow.

Speaker 5 Woo! Okay.

Speaker 2 Now, I will put it out there that my players are typically very kind in that they do not throw too much slang at me because they know I have a very

Speaker 2 limited capacity for this type of thing, but we're gonna try our best. In past seasons, I've learned all types of new phrases.
Sus,

Speaker 2 bet,

Speaker 2 riz, cap. I'm still not sure about cap.
It's a brand new year with brand new slang. The slang I've never heard.
So let's change that right now. I have a stack of note cards right here

Speaker 2 with official definitions from parents.com.

Speaker 2 So it's that means it's something that a millennial mom can hopefully follow.

Speaker 2 I'll take a guess on what they mean and then I'll read you the actual definitions so that we can both learn together because I just

Speaker 2 just even

Speaker 2 Even glancing at what's coming up, I am certain I have no freaking idea. So number one is chat.

Speaker 2 There's no way this means anything

Speaker 2 more than

Speaker 2 we're going to sit down and have a chat. We're going to chit-chat.
Oh my God, this is so bad. What? A term of address that refers to an audience or group of people.

Speaker 2 The term chat is similar to bruh or dude. No, that's not a thing.

Speaker 2 Chat, what's up? Or chat, is this real?

Speaker 2 Oh, so you're text, you're addressing the whole group chat.

Speaker 5 Okay,

Speaker 5 okay, okay, I got this.

Speaker 2 That's, that's dumb.

Speaker 2 Just gonna throw that one out there.

Speaker 2 Sorry. That was mean, but I stand by it.
Number two, clock it.

Speaker 5 Another,

Speaker 2 another way to say it is clock that T.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Clock it is like

Speaker 2 I'm going to assume it has to be something related to like you're timing it.

Speaker 5 Clock it.

Speaker 2 Let's see.

Speaker 2 Used to call out hidden truth or expose someone's real motive in a playful or knowing way. It's a way of saying, I see what's really going on.
I can get down with that.

Speaker 2 I like that. I like to clock things.
So clock it. That's nice.
I like that. I'm going to keep that one.

Speaker 2 Number three is

Speaker 2 aura farming.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Maybe it's when you take from someone's positive energy and like turn it into your own positive energy. I don't know.
That's wow.

Speaker 5 Oh,

Speaker 2 no, that's not what it is. Uh, used to describe someone who is trying to project a certain self-image to avoid being judged, similar to a try-hard.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 bro, is aura farming.

Speaker 2 What the fuck is happening? Number four is glazing. I'm hoping this isn't something out of the

Speaker 2 like glazing has to be what happens after

Speaker 2 glazing

Speaker 2 maybe it's

Speaker 2 maybe it's wearing a lot of jewelry maybe it's like we've all seen how to lose a guy in 10 days maybe this is like a ice yourself frost yourself situation maybe it's glazing Maybe we're, we've moved on from frosting, now we're glazing.

Speaker 2 Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 No, of course not. Why would that be what it is?

Speaker 2 Over-the-top flattery to the point of being kind of embarrassing is when someone hypes up a person so much that it starts to feel performative or fake.

Speaker 2 Use in a sentence, bro, is glazing.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I did not know what a single one of these things meant, but now I know.

Speaker 2 So clock it.

Speaker 2 That wasn't right either.

Speaker 2 The article from parents.com also lists some terms to watch for. Good God.

Speaker 2 My ball.

Speaker 2 My ball, unk, and buns.

Speaker 5 Okay, I can't.

Speaker 2 I don't have any guesses on my Queen Emma's asking in the rundown if I have any guesses on my ball. No, I do not have guesses on my ball.

Speaker 2 Is buns really Gen Z slang? No, buns is always. If buns is exactly what I think it is, like that's buns, like that's ass cheeks, like that's terrible.
That's what it means.

Speaker 2 And if it's not that, I don't want it.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 2 There are some things that we should just let be, and buns is one of them. So if you're trying to make buns into your own thing, Gen Z, Gen alpha, you can kiss my buns because no.
Okay.

Speaker 2 That's it for can I be honest? Let me know what I missed at NGL with Kylie. Feel free to send in any other terms that maybe your kids are using that you would like to educate me on

Speaker 2 because I do feel a little lost, but I think we can get through this together. Next up, let's move on.
It's Doom Scroll the Week.

Speaker 2 First up on Doom Scroll, I scrolled my way through my mentions to find that you all tagged me, a lot of you tagged me, in the announcement for Love is Blind because it's officially casting in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 They

Speaker 2 are looking for a dumpster fire, and you know what they're going to do? Find one. Okay.

Speaker 2 At Alicia Maguire quoted Fox 29 Philly's announcement with, I'm going to need Kylie and Jason to co-host this at Jason Kelsey, at NGL with Kylie.

Speaker 2 First of all, shout out to Nick and Vanessa Lachey who host the show. We are not coming for your jobs.
We actually, I'm, I'm going to speak for both of us when I say we don't want it.

Speaker 2 I don't watch this show. Shocker.

Speaker 2 But what I will say is, is there is a small chance that I watch the Philadelphia edition because there is something about when a show

Speaker 2 is related to or based in Philadelphia, we can't get enough of it. It's like the most self-centered, self-serving.

Speaker 2 We're like, yeah, let's watch it and enjoy it and then feed off of the comments of people people who are watching it and like, wow, this is, this is terrible or this is a dumpster fire or did you hear their accents?

Speaker 2 That sounds, they don't even know how to say the word water.

Speaker 2 It's fun. It feeds us.
I'm not kidding. I really think it like excites the masses in Philadelphia.
When Mayor of East Town came out, that was like,

Speaker 2 that was incredible. Some Philly dating red flags that we can put out there for contestants.

Speaker 2 Queen Emma put a couple in the rundown. We,

Speaker 2 she absolutely nailed this one. Okay.
Being from the Philadelphia area, but rooting for the Cowboys. You're just trying to piss people off.
And it's working. Fuck the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 Calling pork roll Taylor Ham.

Speaker 2 Run. Do you want to know why you should run? If they're calling pork roll Taylor Ham, they're trying to coax your ass across the bridge to Jersey.
Don't do it. Run.

Speaker 2 If someone doesn't care about the 2008 World Series,

Speaker 2 no, you're done.

Speaker 2 You're done. We don't have anything else to talk about there.

Speaker 2 Philly area dating green flags.

Speaker 2 If they grew up going to the shore, specifically saying we go down the shore in the summer,

Speaker 2 saying words like hoagie.

Speaker 2 Maybe they

Speaker 2 frequent a Wawa,

Speaker 2 maybe has a cat named Chase Utley.

Speaker 2 That call is coming from inside the house for sure because that was our cat's name. That's it for Doom Scroll of the Week.
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Speaker 2 Whether you're a parent, grandparent, an aunt, an uncle, or simply just a person, honestly, you've heard of her wildly successful YouTube channel, Netflix show, hit songs, and kids' toys.

Speaker 2 And there's no mistaking that iconic voice, pink shirt, and overalls.

Speaker 2 She's also a New York Times best-selling author, an educator, a fellow mom, and now she's officially not gonna lie, Rachel, aka Miss Rachel. welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 Thank you so much for having me. I'm a big fan.

Speaker 2 Oh, thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to lie, this episode has been a long time in the making. We're huge fans of you in our house.
Big, big fans.

Speaker 5 That's so sweet.

Speaker 2 Now, the girls first started watching, obviously, on YouTube. They were big music kids.
They love singing songs, specifically Hop Little Bunnies is.

Speaker 2 Big hit in our house.

Speaker 5 I love Hop Little Bunnies so much.

Speaker 2 It's so good and everyone lays down and they're sleeping you know the whole thing we do the whole thing i love yeah susie my my new little baby she's uh almost six months and we were hopping like bunnies together this morning and she doesn't even understand what a bunny is or sleeping but she loves it yes because it's just a good time and they know it um i did tell the girls that i was meeting you today well i told our our third Benny that I was meeting you today and I asked if she wanted me to tell you anything and she she said she wanted me to tell you that Ellie broke the cup.

Speaker 2 So she's using this opportunity to rat out her sister.

Speaker 5 Yep, it's okay to accidentally break things, right? Yes. Yes, we love mistakes.

Speaker 2 I'm still unsure what cup she was talking about, but she felt strongly about that's what you needed to know.

Speaker 5 Um, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 We are, of course, far from alone in our love of your show. Miss Rachel is officially the number one kids' show on Netflix so far this year.
Congratulations!

Speaker 5 Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 How cool was that see?

Speaker 5 Everything surprises me. I guess we're kind of in denial about that, but it's nice because we're like, wow, yeah, I appreciate it so much.

Speaker 5 It makes me so happy and I feel so grateful that so many families enjoy it and find those moments of joy singing together and bonding. And I just feel like the luckiest person ever.

Speaker 5 I have the best job in the world.

Speaker 2 Now, I was pleasantly surprised to see that Robert De Niro is saying Miss Rachel

Speaker 2 and that you sent a video for his daughter to Drew Barrymore's show.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 We actually have the clip right here for our viewers, Queen Emma.

Speaker 5 Hi, Gia. It's Miss Rachel.

Speaker 4 What's that?

Speaker 5 It's a taxi. What does a taxi driver say?

Speaker 5 Are you talking to

Speaker 2 who has been the person who is a fan of you that was the most surprising?

Speaker 5 Because I feel like

Speaker 2 Robert De Niro.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So I am elderly.

Speaker 5 And so I don't

Speaker 5 know. I'm an elderly millennial or elder millennial.
Okay.

Speaker 5 So I'm not amazing with Instagram. So I didn't know about the requests and top requests.
So I ghosted some people for like months.

Speaker 5 Anyway, so I'm not a like cool person who like knows a lot about celebrities. Um,

Speaker 5 so when I saw a

Speaker 5 um bad girl rere, I was like, wow, this person has so many followers. Oh my god.
And then I was like, this is such a cute little profile picture because it's a drawing. No idea.

Speaker 5 Asked some, but I asked people who were around. I was like, do you know who this is?

Speaker 5 And then, yeah, I realized it was Riyadh.

Speaker 5 Small flex, tiny little flex. That's That's that one.

Speaker 2 Did you like gasp?

Speaker 5 I did. I did.
I was like, wow.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 yeah, that was crazy. I'm trying to think of who else.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you can talk. Can you talk, Rihanna?

Speaker 5 Oh, you know, I did. I did get to sing with John Legend.
That was so cool. I was a fan of him way back in high school.
I loved. piano pop and I love all the pianos like Sarah Varele's and

Speaker 5 throwback to like Billy Joel Stevie Wonder And so,

Speaker 5 yeah, I was like, whoa, that's so cool. And I knew an album that he was like, nobody knows that album and it's not even available anymore.
And I was like, I can sing every song on that album.

Speaker 2 Next sorry, I'm barely a fan, but I can sing you every song from an album that no longer is available. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 For anyone listening who isn't familiar with your background, you're very open to what led to your first YouTube channel. And that was your son's speech delay.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, he had a severe speech delay. And he didn't talk till he was about three.
Really? Yeah. I think the first word was two years and nine months.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 he's so bright and

Speaker 5 just the sweetest, most wonderful little guy.

Speaker 5 And as a mom, when you see them struggle with something, I mean, I know you know, like it just breaks your heart because you're like, oh my gosh, how do I, how do I fix this? Yep.

Speaker 5 And I feel like a lot of moms will, you know, I would stay up all night and learn about speech.

Speaker 5 I got a mouth puppet that I don't use on the show, but I like literally got a mouth puppet and would do like tongue-mouth, huge puppet things to him to try and help him.

Speaker 5 I was telling your producers that

Speaker 5 when he was little, I used to put on like some paw patrol, and then I would edit and interrupt it and be like, It's mommy. And I'd do like a few speech things with him.
Yeah. I'd be like, same me.

Speaker 5 And then I'd be like, back to Paw Patrol.

Speaker 2 Oh, like a little speech commercial.

Speaker 5 His own thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because I was telling them that he watched it and he didn't really get that, like, it wasn't like entertaining and cool. I mean, he didn't get that it was like me making him watch it.

Speaker 5 And then once he could talk, he was like, no, mommy show.

Speaker 5 Oh. Yeah.
Cause he was like, I think I can just hang out with you and like do things with you and like then watch

Speaker 5 my shows. Yes.

Speaker 2 So use the TV for things that I don't get to see face to face. Yeah.
Sure.

Speaker 2 Like I mentioned before, the music from your show is a hit in our house, but you just mentioned how your husband, Aaron, is a Broadway composer.

Speaker 2 Have you guys ever talked about doing a Miss Rachel Broadway musical?

Speaker 5 We would love to do a live show. That would be very cool.

Speaker 5 And thank you for noticing the music. I really appreciate that because

Speaker 5 Aaron...

Speaker 5 He does a lot of like underscoring, which not everyone appreciates. But if you don't have it, it's like, where's that

Speaker 5 underscoring? He's just a brilliant pianist.

Speaker 5 And then we write a lot of songs together and then he writes songs and himself and then um he has like live instruments play on the track sometimes which um i really appreciate and he has broadway friends he has on and yeah we actually co-create the show completely together and i have to give him a shout out because people usually say just the music but um it's like yeah it's it's equal and i kind of get all the credit so i love you aaron love you babe good job aaron yeah couldn't do it keep going wait Wait, what's the go, Mr.

Speaker 5 Aaron? Yeah. Stop, Mr.
Aaron.

Speaker 2 Well, in addition to your music, I love how educational your show is, especially when it comes to language development.

Speaker 2 And your voice and the way you speak is a huge part of that, right?

Speaker 2 And I believe that I'm not sure that if it was you or someone else was explaining because someone had made a comment about your voice, like a parent.

Speaker 2 And I'm not sure if it was you or someone else, but I remember seeing someone sort of do the breakdown of like that sing song voice

Speaker 2 is actually a tactic in sort of like speech pathology and trying to get kids to sort of sing it back to you almost.

Speaker 2 What do you say to people who like comment on your voice in the show? Because obviously it is not your everyday voice.

Speaker 5 You know, so

Speaker 5 I, well, in all cultures, naturally, people raise their voice talking to babies. And now that I know that science, I always watch it.

Speaker 5 And it's so interesting to watch like a guy be like, hey, how are you? Hi. And then they'd be like, hi.
And I'm like, wow, you really like, yes, really cute.

Speaker 5 So something I do that I had heard Mr. Rogers does is I imagine one kid,

Speaker 5 often like a kid I work, I worked with before or like just saw doing Make a Wish or just a kid that like, you know, pulled my heartstrings and

Speaker 5 fills my heart with joy. And so I imagine them and then that voice just comes out.

Speaker 5 My voice has always been high. Like

Speaker 5 since I am an elderly millennial, I remember in high school being like, hello? And people would be like, is your mommy there? And I'd be like, I'm 15.

Speaker 5 So I've always had a high voice. Yes.

Speaker 5 Naturally, a soprano. But yeah, so it's, it's interesting too.
Like when you talk to a baby, you elongate it like, hello. Yes.
And it sings songy. And that's kind of just like my personality too.

Speaker 5 So it, it works out that it works for the show really well. And it's, it's backed by science.

Speaker 2 Now, when you first meet parents who have watched the show, how often do you have to politely ask them to call you Rachel and not Miss Rachel?

Speaker 5 My friends that I've known for 20 years will,

Speaker 5 a Miss Rachel will come out and I'm like, you cannot call me Miss Rachel.

Speaker 2 You knew me as Rachel before I was Miss Rachel.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing? So, no, right away, if people message me and they're like, hey, Miss Rachel, I'm like, oh, you can call me Rachel.

Speaker 2 My name's actually Rachel. So weird.

Speaker 5 And I taught, I was Miss Occurso. So,

Speaker 5 okay. So I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 So it is very much tied to

Speaker 2 the current phenomenon. Yes.

Speaker 5 I love that.

Speaker 2 Now, Miss Rachel's also got a signature look.

Speaker 2 Kids recognize your pink shirt, your overalls, and your headbands. anywhere.
And one of my favorite TikToks of yours is explaining the origin story of the pink headband.

Speaker 2 Queen Emma's going to play it for us. Yay!

Speaker 5 Why did you decide to wear a headband for the Miss Rachel outfit?

Speaker 5 It's just

Speaker 2 as someone who has

Speaker 2 flyaways myself. Yes.
I love that.

Speaker 5 Has Jason ever just talked to you normally when your hair? is

Speaker 5 like Aaron has talked to me normally when there's like a huge thing and then those

Speaker 5 and I'm like, hey, babe. And he's like, hey.

Speaker 5 And he doesn't say anything. Yes.

Speaker 2 A number of times where I've ended up back in front of a mirror and been like,

Speaker 2 how did you keep a straight face?

Speaker 5 How did you not say like it will be like

Speaker 5 so and he doesn't

Speaker 2 screaming and it's nearly touching their nose and you're like, you didn't want to tell me my flyaways were so out of control.

Speaker 5 He doesn't care. It's cute though that they're just like.

Speaker 2 It's very sweet, right?

Speaker 2 Now we've been talking about miss rachel and your on-screen persona i'd love to ask you more about yourself great

Speaker 2 that's so kind there's something i've really wanted to ask when you are fully able to be rachel you're at home with your friends

Speaker 5 do you swear oh my goodness so

Speaker 2 I feel like you just answered my question.

Speaker 5 I was just wondering, like, I was like, am I going to come on? There's going to be a lot of

Speaker 5 swearing because I noticed it in the other episodes. But I was like, you totally can.

Speaker 5 But, okay, so my new thing is spelling swears. Oh, perfect.
I say holy S-H-I-T. Love it.
And Thomas spells. So he's like, why are you spelling shit?

Speaker 5 So it's not useful, but I keep spelling it. Yeah.
And it doesn't help him. I mean,

Speaker 2 it lands it a little lighter. I feel like that's like as if when we were younger and I'd be like H-E-double hockey stick because I wasn't allowed to say hell, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like it lands it a little softer.

Speaker 5 I like that. Yeah.
No, I like that. Okay.
Yeah. No, I do, especially like when I used to play Super Mario Bros.
That's when it would come out.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Are you competitive? No, but with Super Mario Bros, it's just like you fall into that hole and you're just like.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I love that that. I feel like swears don't sound right coming out of my voice, though.
That's part of it. That's okay.

Speaker 2 I feel like with small kids, it lessens your ability to have the time.

Speaker 2 You decrease sometimes the availability of your swears. Like you're saying you spell them out.

Speaker 2 Every so often one will pop out and they really do not happen often, which is hilarious considering how often I use them. Wow.

Speaker 2 But every so often one will happen and I have a moment of, Yeah, I'm just not going to acknowledge that one because I do think it feeds it a little bit.

Speaker 2 Like I think when you acknowledge this as a detector.

Speaker 5 Okay. He's roams away and he's like, did I hear shit? What happened?

Speaker 2 What'd you do? What'd you mess up? Yeah. Yeah.
No, ours, ours are funny because they will pick out words that are not typical swears in other houses.

Speaker 2 So like, we're not allowed to say shut up in our house. Even the suggestion of it makes me like itchy things.

Speaker 5 We don't say a few things.

Speaker 2 Yeah, stupid.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we don't say stupid either. And once in a while, I'll be like, that's stupid.

Speaker 2 And Thomas is like, we don't say say stupid so that's where they if anyone in the house says the word stupid someone in the house is going to be like did you just say yeah who said stupid and you're like wasn't me it was her like just

Speaker 2 because that's the words they latch on to but they will not latch on to the grown-up words the same way anymore which i think i i don't know if it's a a brag or what, but they've been so desensitized by the usage of them in our house that they're just like, that's not exciting anymore.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's a good tip.

Speaker 5 Try it at home.

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Speaker 2 Well, I'd love to play a quick game if you're up for it.

Speaker 5 I am.

Speaker 2 We sometimes do a segment on here called Coach Me Up, where I have guests coach me up on something they're an expert on.

Speaker 2 But this time, I'm wondering if you, as Miss Rachel, can coach up regular adults who could use some Miss Rachel-style pointers on basic social decency. Aww.

Speaker 2 So I'll give you the scenario, and you, as Miss Rachel, can tell us hypothetically, the tell the hypothetical adult what they could maybe do differently okay great okay so the first one is

Speaker 2 you're on a plane and the person sitting next to you is blasting music from their laptop with no headphones and people around you are pissed and the music isn't even good oh man i think miss rachel would

Speaker 5 say

Speaker 5 Is there any way possible you could use headphones?

Speaker 2 That's such a gentle way.

Speaker 5 Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2 Okay. Number two, you're out with your friend.
You're out with them and their new boyfriend.

Speaker 5 They have a new boyfriend.

Speaker 2 He won't stop staring at his phone.

Speaker 2 He's not engaged in the conversation. He's not asking any questions.
He's just doom scrolling. First of all, I'm going to give you some advice.
Dump him.

Speaker 2 What would Miss Rachel say?

Speaker 5 Well, she'd probably ask him a question to try and get involved in the conversation. Perfect.
And then she'd probably wait till after and be like, I noticed that

Speaker 5 Bobby

Speaker 5 was on his phone a lot. And, you know,

Speaker 5 what do we think about that?

Speaker 5 I don't know. Yes, no, that's good.

Speaker 2 I like it. Okay,

Speaker 2 this is the last one. And it's totally, definitely hypothetical.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 2 Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. You're out on your first date with a guy you met on Tinder.

Speaker 2 And he drank too many many beers.

Speaker 5 Really weird.

Speaker 2 And he fell asleep at the table, and his friend had to fireman carry him home. What would Miss Rachel say to him?

Speaker 5 I would say,

Speaker 5 I would say to you, you should marry him.

Speaker 2 Great foreshadowing.

Speaker 5 Because I've seen your show.

Speaker 5 But I wish I didn't know that story, but I do.

Speaker 2 That does it for Coach Me Up. Thank you for playing.
That was fun. Now, something else I've been so excited to talk to you about is motherhood.
You're a mom of two now.

Speaker 2 Congratulations on your little girl.

Speaker 5 Coach And on your new one.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Now, I've said this before on the show, but people will often say that

Speaker 2 because I have four kids,

Speaker 2 I know what I'm doing,

Speaker 2 which

Speaker 2 I do not.

Speaker 2 Because you are Miss Rachel, do people assume that you have some achieved some level of like expert parent?

Speaker 5 Yes. And I like to be like, I'm just a regular mom.
Yes. Yes.
And

Speaker 5 something that I think about all the time is this quote. There's no way to be a perfect mom, but there's a million ways to be a good mom.
And so I go for the good mom.

Speaker 2 That feels good. Yeah.
It feels attainable.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
And I don't need to be the best mom. I need to be a loving mom.
Yes. And I have a lot of unconditional love.
But I also have those boundaries

Speaker 5 and rules.

Speaker 5 But no, so I was staring at Susie and you know, okay, she's like, she was around like three months and we're staring at each other.

Speaker 5 And, you know, you do all the things they need and she's not sleepy and she's just like looking at me. And I was like, this is my time to shine.
I'm Miss Rachel. It's time for a song.

Speaker 5 And then I was just like, I couldn't think of any.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, baby learning one, baby learning two. They're hours long.

Speaker 5 And I was just like, I got nothing. Nothing.
I went blank. Yeah.
What you got stage fright in front of your eyes?

Speaker 5 Just them. And then I did like the Miss Rachel live show.
Perfect. Yeah, I went blank.

Speaker 2 Did you like have a good laugh about that?

Speaker 5 Because I know. I was like, I talked to myself.
I was like, you're Miss Rachel.

Speaker 2 You're trying to give yourself a pep talk. Yeah.
You've got this. Yeah.

Speaker 5 This is your thing.

Speaker 2 You've made a million kids smile.

Speaker 5 Yeah. More than that.
No.

Speaker 2 You can make your own baby smile. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And she sometimes is, she's a tough audience sometimes. If she wakes up from a nap and you're like, open,

Speaker 5 shut them. She's like,

Speaker 5 no.

Speaker 2 No, I'd like to shut them again because it's time to go back to sleep.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Our most recent is also a tough audience.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. She's she makes you work for a smile.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 2 Well, I'd love to circle back to a topic I've been excited to get your take on, which is screen time, which we touched on briefly.

Speaker 2 But I've heard you say the quote, all screen time is not created equal.

Speaker 2 Can you explain that a little bit more?

Speaker 5 Yes. So I think that some screen time is faster pace.
And I like for little ones the slow pace. I love the interaction.
So the pausing for a response, encouraging imaginative play,

Speaker 5 what else? I think what's great about PBS and

Speaker 5 our show as well is there's a lot of research behind it. So if you think about a show, you want to know like who's behind the show,

Speaker 5 who's working on it,

Speaker 5 and where are they getting their research. So yeah, it's not all equal.

Speaker 5 And yeah, I'm obsessed with like PBS.

Speaker 2 So are we. We're a big Sesame Street household.
We love wild streets and Zabumafu.

Speaker 2 As someone who loves PBS and works in the world of kids programming,

Speaker 2 why do you think it's so important to make sure that everyone has access to these types of shows?

Speaker 5 Well, like I said, they're backed by research and you can trust them. You can put them on and do the dishes and you're not going to come running back hearing something.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 yeah, they've been around so long. So you just, they're trustworthy.

Speaker 2 And there also shows that we very much, I am a very much like screen time is great for dishes to do something that, yep, to do something that I don't necessarily want

Speaker 2 three ducklings, right? Three ducklings following me around the house to do these things. It's easier to just like quick get it done.

Speaker 5 I think it can be beneficial.

Speaker 5 I think. what's important for the really little ones is that you balance it with

Speaker 5 what Harvard calls like serve and return interaction. So just like we said with the babbling, or like they're looking at a toy and you're like, wow, that is a red tractor.

Speaker 5 You know, just like those, those nice interactions. And then they say vroom, vroom, and you're like, where's the tractor going? Like, you're just having back and forth interactions.

Speaker 5 Because if those are missing,

Speaker 5 you can't get that same quality from TV. Yep.
So, but, you know, as someone who grew up with a single mom, I know that

Speaker 5 like this. the recommendations can be really unrealistic and that there are shows that are beneficial.

Speaker 2 It also, I've found that the PBS shows, like specifically Wildcrats, like I was a sucker for Animal Planet when I was growing up and I loved watching Zabooma Fu and I feel like it's fun to sit down and watch it with them as well.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and co-viewing is really beneficial.

Speaker 2 Because we talk about it while it's happening. When we watch your show, we sing the songs together.

Speaker 2 It gives them a moment of like, did you see that? And you get to sort of validate their excitement in what they're watching.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and you can extend it to like an an art project or like you can pretend to be hermit crabs outside or behind like a shell and it's a box.

Speaker 2 It's so much fun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Speaking of PBS, the headline of your new profile in the Washington Post is Miss Rachel grew up on Mr. Rogers and now she's carrying on his legacy.

Speaker 2 You've been compared to him for a while now. How do you feel about that?

Speaker 5 I can't accept it. I mean, he's a saint to me.
And he's just, yeah, he's, I've admired him and he's been my hero for so long. Um,

Speaker 5 I read his, like in my 20s, I would just like read books about him. I think like maybe seven years ago, I

Speaker 5 read his whole biography and decided I was going to write a musical about him.

Speaker 5 And it's just, it's just funny that I ended up going into kids' media because I didn't, even at like 30, I just, I didn't see that happening.

Speaker 5 And it's so funny because I applied to be an intern on Sesame Street when I was in my 20s. I was like, I want to work on Sesame Sesame Street.

Speaker 5 So it's just funny that everyone was like, this is obvious, Rachel, because you like had a Sesame Street backpack as like a 25-year-old. And like, why is this new to you? You have like a Mr.

Speaker 5 Rogers book like on your coffee table.

Speaker 2 I do like the idea that you were more surprised than the people around you.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That you, it was so obvious that you're in the

Speaker 2 right field of work.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, totally.

Speaker 2 That's so interesting. Yeah.
That means you were really meant for it.

Speaker 5 Thank you.

Speaker 2 Like, like you, Mr. Rogers also advocated for children as well as human rights and equality.

Speaker 2 How has he been an inspiration for you in that capacity?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I've watched all his documentaries and I knew that his kid show, I think, was the first or one of the first to have a lot of black characters on.

Speaker 5 I heard recently that TV shows for kids should be a window and a mirror. So a mirror, they can see themselves in a window.

Speaker 5 They can see like outward impossibilities, what they can do, what they can be.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 I think that must have been really important to him, and it's really important to us.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 so, when we decided to have Rahoff on the show, who's from Gaza, I actually took a screenshot of his pool scene when he had,

Speaker 5 at that time,

Speaker 5 pools had been segregated. So, people even threw chemicals into pools that black people were swimming in

Speaker 5 to try and get them out. And he, this makes me emotional,

Speaker 5 he decided to have this kiddie pool. And

Speaker 5 sorry, I didn't mean to cry.

Speaker 5 He decided to have this kiddie pool and sit with

Speaker 5 Officer Clemens and invite him to put his feet in together. And then he like shared his towel.
And actually, I saw that

Speaker 5 some people who wanted things to stay segregated, that that scene ended up being like a conversation in their home. Like, wow, Mr.
Rogers was comfortable sharing his pool. And

Speaker 5 I thought

Speaker 5 that I wanted people to see Rahaf and her joy and see her. There's so much dehumanization that goes on with

Speaker 5 kids.

Speaker 5 And, you know, it happens with

Speaker 5 kids from different parts of the world, kids who have disabilities.

Speaker 5 And just to see

Speaker 5 her joy and see her as somebody who who loves hop little bunnies. And it was cool when I posted it that people,

Speaker 5 it was sad and beautiful that people said comments like, oh, this made me realize that she's just like my child.

Speaker 5 So hadn't seen her as

Speaker 5 like their child until that moment. But

Speaker 5 it's great that people can change in that way.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 yeah, I just

Speaker 5 think

Speaker 5 I knew that that wasn't easy for him and that he got a lot of hate mail about that.

Speaker 5 But it was the right thing to do. And so

Speaker 5 I would look at that screenshot when, whenever I had a lot of backlash about it,

Speaker 5 and it was funny because I was really had a bad day about some backlash. and was so down and Aaron brought in a present and

Speaker 5 it was wrapped in everything. And I was like, sometimes it's funny, people will like project or call me like a saint.

Speaker 5 And it was funny, Aaron and I were watching the news once, and they were like, She really is a saint.

Speaker 5 And he like did the slow look to me, like, because he knows me when I'm like hangry and like, I can be a real baby.

Speaker 5 He was like, oh,

Speaker 5 he loves me and adores me, but it was just funny because he knows if I haven't eaten in the morning and I've had like two cups of coffee. And he's like, have you had breakfast?

Speaker 5 He tries to say it in like a nice way.

Speaker 5 Like, I didn't, do you know?

Speaker 2 Gently, you seem hanging.

Speaker 5 Do you want toast?

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 he brought me this gift, and

Speaker 5 I was like, I don't want it unless it's a Mr. Rogers autograph.
Like, that was so mean. Like, he had a gift for me.

Speaker 5 And he's like, I think you should open it. And

Speaker 5 why did I say that? That was so mean.

Speaker 5 But it was Mr. Rogers had handwritten part of It's a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, the music.

Speaker 2 You manifested it.

Speaker 5 It was really sweet.

Speaker 5 That's that's amazing and yeah and he had i i kind of knew aaron was on the lookout sure um i probably had like mentioned that that would be something i would really love um you know how that is so um a gentle suggestion yeah yeah a few suggestions

Speaker 5 yeah a few times yeah um like yeah so i um

Speaker 5 I opened it and I started bawling because I was just like, it was such a nice sign.

Speaker 5 I feel like there's been a lot of signs that I'm doing the right thing. And that's really cool.
And I know in my heart.

Speaker 2 That's amazing. Thank you.
The last thing is something that I like to ask all of my fellow mom guests.

Speaker 2 How have your kids humbled you?

Speaker 5 So I've worked with kids for a long time and they're so honest. They're so honest.
They're so honest. They're so beautiful.
Yeah. They don't know yet about like not being so honest.

Speaker 5 I had a talk with Thomas about this just last night.

Speaker 5 So he was looking at me like I was so beautiful.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 5 And he was like, mommy, what are those lines on your forehead?

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 I didn't know I had any lines on my forehead because, like we talked about prior to taping, I lose everything. And I lose it over and over.

Speaker 5 So I lose my glasses so much that I just don't wear them and I don't have good vision. So everything looked really smooth to me.
It's like a nice blur. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I was surprised. I didn't know.
I was like, lines?

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 5 And then I had to do some inner work on that

Speaker 5 because I like to do this thing where you flip things. Sure.
So I was like, kind of, I was bummed about that. And of course, I get the online comments like, time for Botox.

Speaker 5 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So I

Speaker 5 changed it in my mind from wrinkles to gratitude lines because I was like, I'm grateful. Like, not everyone gets to grow old.

Speaker 5 And I'm so grateful for all that I've learned because in my 20s, I was a disaster.

Speaker 5 I meet 20-year-olds that have it all together. And I'm like, no.
Yeah. I'm like, why?

Speaker 5 It couldn't be me. Yeah.
I was just a hot mess. And so I don't want to go back to that time when I didn't, I had a smooth face and I was a disaster.
No, these lines. They want to be here.

Speaker 2 These lines come with wisdom. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So I'm grateful for them.

Speaker 2 I cannot thank you enough for coming on, not going to lie.

Speaker 5 Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 We are so excited to have gotten the chance to talk to you. I cannot wait to go home and tell my kids I met Miss Rachel.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 But more importantly, I'm so excited that I got the chance to sit down here with Rachel.

Speaker 5 I'm so honored. And can I just say thank you so much for all you do for the Eagles Autism Foundation? And Mr.
Rogers said, anyone who does anything for a child is a hero to me.

Speaker 5 And thank you for all you do for the children. It means so much.

Speaker 2 Happy to. Thank you for everything that you do.
And,

Speaker 2 like I said, huge fans of you in our house. And

Speaker 2 I so appreciate that you are offering programming to kids that is both enriching and helpful. And something that I think all parents can be proud to put on in their house.

Speaker 2 That's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Miss Rachel on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday.

Speaker 2 Her new picture book, Miss Rachel and Bean and the Bedtime Routine, is out this October. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode.

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