Kylie & Hannah Einbinder on Birds Fans Flipping The Bird, BTS of Hacks & Cheerleading IS A SPORT | Ep. 32

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Speaker 7 Not gonna lie, I did not prioritize my caffeine intake this morning, so I'm coffeeless and potentially unable to form a thought.

Speaker 6 But let's get this podcast started.

Speaker 9 Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave Original, brought to you by Toyota.

Speaker 11 Let's go places. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, self-described most unprofessional professional.

Speaker 3 You don't even know how true that is.

Speaker 5 I'm responsible for four tiny humans.

Speaker 7 What?

Speaker 14 And I'm an enjoyer of sourdough, if you know you, Joe.

Speaker 8 Coming up on today's episode, there's a baby pygmy hippo at a zoo in Kansas that needs all our attention in Doom Scroll of the Week.

Speaker 11 I'm also going to get honest about a very important motherhood topic.

Speaker 14 Everything showers.

Speaker 10 After that, I'm going to be joined by the hilarious Emmy-nominated star of hacks.

Speaker 11 Her level of Eagles fandom might actually rival my own.

Speaker 24 It's Hannah Einbinder.

Speaker 25 Should editor Brad put a Go Birds counter on the screen for this conversation?

Speaker 27 Maybe.

Speaker 28 we're not trying to disappoint.

Speaker 10 We bleed green.

Speaker 29 Okay,

Speaker 19 but first, a couple quick announcements.

Speaker 22 First, some of you may have seen the video of me reuniting with my friend Billy at our Eagles Autism Foundation yard sale.

Speaker 6 That's right, the Eagles held open practice

Speaker 2 at the link.

Speaker 5 Tickets are $10 a piece.

Speaker 14 They are a first-come, first-served seating.

Speaker 8 It is a great time and also sensory-friendly.

Speaker 11 We activate even more sensory spaces and every single dollar, both at yard sale and ticket sales, goes directly back into the Eagles Autism Foundation.

Speaker 34 And we love that.

Speaker 35 We love that so much.

Speaker 11 Billy wanted me to sign his headphones, but then he decided he didn't want me to sign his headphones.

Speaker 8 It's a whole dance we're doing.

Speaker 14 We're friends, so

Speaker 37 we're cool like that.

Speaker 9 And I can confirm he did get lemonade.

Speaker 11 We've also got even more EAF events going on, including our annual Eagles Radiothon right now.

Speaker 9 Right now, where you can bid on exclusive memorabilia and VIP experiences with players.

Speaker 38 You can go to eaglesradiothon.com to see what items you can bid on.

Speaker 39 It's now through August 28th.

Speaker 11 One of the experiences you can bid on is a round of golf with Jason, husband, and Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 22 That's cool.

Speaker 41 Jason doesn't even know that I'm getting really good at golf.

Speaker 15 So maybe next year I'll bid on a golf experience with him and then I'll show up and be like, surprise, I'm here to kick your ass in golf.

Speaker 42 I might do it.

Speaker 33 Who knows? Stay tuned.

Speaker 16 Next show update.

Speaker 22 Some eagle-eyed real ones noticed something, let's call it unique, about last week's episode. Queen Emma isn't slick with letting the runtime on this week's episode creep up to 48 minutes.

Speaker 34 Hmm.

Speaker 3 Now, if you're thinking to yourself, maybe 48 is some kind of Easter egg.

Speaker 43 It's not. We're not that slick around here.

Speaker 44 Queen Emma's not that slick.

Speaker 45 Queen Emma is just being absolutely unhinged. Queen Emma, do you care to explain yourself?

Speaker 34 Hey, girl.

Speaker 46 Love when we meet like this.

Speaker 46 I would like to explain myself. So you and I were having a totally casual conversation about episode runtime, as we do.

Speaker 29 Not sure who brought that topic up.

Speaker 18 Crazy.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it just comes up sometimes. And I said something to the effect of, hey,

Speaker 46 I think including the ads in the 45 is fucking criminal.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you did say that.

Speaker 46 And I think you agreed.

Speaker 10 I think you caught me at a weak.

Speaker 28 I think you caught me at a weak moment.

Speaker 10 I gave you the 48, okay?

Speaker 34 Get the fuck out.

Speaker 46 All right, I'll let you get back to your show.

Speaker 10 We're doing 48 now.

Speaker 3 I'm not pleased about it, but we're doing 48 because Queen Emma, she's persistent.

Speaker 28 Chat, let's move on to Can I Be Honest?

Speaker 51 Oh, my God.

Speaker 25 And in case you were wondering, we have been trying to

Speaker 50 include chat in our regular everyday vernacular.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 3 chat, it's working.

Speaker 18 Oh, God, it was bad.

Speaker 12 It's no, every time I say it, I feel like my body rejects it.

Speaker 23 We're working on it.

Speaker 16 Can I be honest?

Speaker 12 Last week, I gave the real ones my list of small joys I miss most as a mom, and you all chimed in with some of your own that definitely passed the vibe check.

Speaker 7 A couple of my favorites, we're going to try to say some names.

Speaker 12 Alyss Rogers five,

Speaker 14 having to share my snacks.

Speaker 23 Nailed it. I actually have adapted to putting more of whatever I'm eating in my bowl

Speaker 8 so that when I am asked for some, I can share and I still get closer to the amount I want.

Speaker 11 You still end up with less. Morgan Rako Gang said, I miss a bed rot day or Netflix binge so bad.

Speaker 5 Oh my gosh, yes.

Speaker 24 Yes,

Speaker 37 I would love to put on

Speaker 9 an adult show to binge and not be yelled at.

Speaker 15 It's a shame.

Speaker 38 If I could binge a show right now,

Speaker 11 ooh, or it's fall's coming.

Speaker 44 Is Gilmore Girls back in?

Speaker 10 Guys, I binge shows based on the season.

Speaker 12 Well, one of my small joys that appeared to hit home with the real ones was my desire to take an everything shower whenever I want.

Speaker 11 So today I'm going to get honest about mom showers versus everything showers.

Speaker 3 An everything shower, I think it's pretty explanatory.

Speaker 10 It's when you actually get to shave your legs,

Speaker 37 exfoliate,

Speaker 11 maybe even moisturize after the shower.

Speaker 53 What?

Speaker 22 Well, dream big.

Speaker 5 That's different from a mom shower because a mom shower is

Speaker 51 honestly

Speaker 14 pits and crotch bare minimum.

Speaker 44 Pits, crotch, butt, bare minimum.

Speaker 32 For anyone who isn't a parent, there are certain things that you have to do sometimes to be able to shower.

Speaker 38 Now,

Speaker 21 there have been times where it has been me home with specifically Wyatt and I were home a lot, just the two of us.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 33 honestly,

Speaker 5 bringing her into the bathroom with the entire swing, okay?

Speaker 9 And the only swing that could get her to calm down at all when she was in it and not touching another human was this giant one.

Speaker 49 It was,

Speaker 11 I mean, wide as hell.

Speaker 18 And I would have to collapse it halfway to get it through the doorway of the bathroom.

Speaker 37 And then I would have to step over it to get into the shower.

Speaker 5 I once brought the pack and play in the bathroom at the shore.

Speaker 11 And even if someone else is home in the house,

Speaker 24 At least one of them ends up in the bathroom if I'm showering.

Speaker 43 So,

Speaker 9 and they'll stand outside and and just yell to me the whole shower.

Speaker 45 Like, I, like, we couldn't just have this conversation when I get out.

Speaker 10 And the minute I get out, guess what?

Speaker 12 No more interest.

Speaker 38 I actually don't, I don't want to talk to you anymore.

Speaker 43 So

Speaker 23 it was either out of volume yelling over the water or not at all.

Speaker 43 And now this conversation's over.

Speaker 40 Let me know if that happens to you because

Speaker 22 we're having fun.

Speaker 28 That's it for Can I Be Honest?

Speaker 10 Chat.

Speaker 5 Next up, Doom Scroll.

Speaker 10 First up on Doom Scroll, I know we've sort of become an unofficial turtle podcast, but this week we might be a hippo podcast because there's a baby hippo named Mars proving that mom face is universal.

Speaker 22 Queen Emma, the clip, please.

Speaker 7 Oh, it's a little hippo.

Speaker 14 It says us telling Mars it's time to get out of the pool versus his mom telling him it's time to get out.

Speaker 32 There's a keeper just shoving his tiny little hiney knee along.

Speaker 21 Oh, he's like, oh, mom's giving him the look.

Speaker 23 And

Speaker 17 mom gave him the look. She came over to the edge of the pool.

Speaker 6 She said, you get your ass out of there. And guess what? Mars got his ass out of there.

Speaker 30 So, safe to say, Posey hit him with the mom face.

Speaker 31 That's his mom.

Speaker 30 His mom, Posey, hit him with the mom face.

Speaker 7 And I would say, 11 out of 10, Posey, you nailed that so hard.

Speaker 10 I do like that she went to the extra effort of walking to the edge of their pool, like, hey,

Speaker 3 you see how far I had to walk over here to collect your ass?

Speaker 25 That means you better have some pep in your step.

Speaker 33 And then he scurried.

Speaker 45 He legitimately scurried.

Speaker 51 He was like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 31 I love that so much.

Speaker 38 I love that this crosses species, that it's not just a human thing, that it is a universal mom thing.

Speaker 41 If I had to pick another animal

Speaker 8 that displayed mom face,

Speaker 7 do you see how serious I'm taking this question?

Speaker 44 Did you know that that was going to happen?

Speaker 52 I have to say it. I think a cheetah, because their face markings are already giving.

Speaker 44 And so, to be able for them to just lock in and sort of like cut the shit face,

Speaker 23 I feel like they would nail it.

Speaker 23 I feel like they would.

Speaker 28 Okay, next up, there's a TikTok trend of parents dropping their kids off at their grandparents' doorsteps and pretending to run away.

Speaker 52 And I can relate, especially right now, I might do this with Finn today.

Speaker 41 I might.

Speaker 25 Nobody tells my mom.

Speaker 10 Queen Emma, roll the clip.

Speaker 39 Yep, so she knocked, she ding-dong-ditched with the child and the diaper bag.

Speaker 11 All of the grandparents that I've seen this trend done on are so excited to see the kid, they're not even pissed at their child.

Speaker 38 All of them have been like, Oh my gosh, you're here, let me make you a snack.

Speaker 9 And honestly, how do I get dropped off of my parents' house and have my mom do that?

Speaker 43 I'm just kidding.

Speaker 49 If I show up to my mom's house unannounced, she will offer me a snack because Lolise is the queen.

Speaker 43 I know for a fact that if I left any of our four children or all four children on the front step of my parents' house, that they would just usher them inside and not think twice about it.

Speaker 25 But what I will say is I couldn't drop off all four kids

Speaker 54 because,

Speaker 54 well, let's be real, because White would wrap my ass out.

Speaker 30 She'd be like, hey, so mom's actually, she's around the corner on the side porch.

Speaker 38 She would do it in a heartbeat.

Speaker 44 She wouldn't think it was like funny or anything.

Speaker 23 She'd be like, you got to get your girl, Nana.

Speaker 5 Last on Doom Scroll, there's a trending TikTok sound from the other podcast that I can confidently say is one of the most badass things ever said on there.

Speaker 49 And now it's being used by so many women across the sports world, including ESPN analyst Mina Kimes.

Speaker 22 Queen Emma, hit it.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 58 I think we all know that if there's one thing that male sports fans want to see in their spaces and on their screens, it's more of me.

Speaker 15 It's so good.

Speaker 38 Let me tell you.

Speaker 3 The clip for our audio listeners is Mina essentially on every ESPN show.

Speaker 10 And I love this because I'm going to tell you right now, Mina would not be on every fucking show if she wasn't absolutely nailing it.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 33 So yeah,

Speaker 43 fact is, Mina, I want to see you on our screens, but I do love this.

Speaker 19 I love this audio so much.

Speaker 25 I love it.

Speaker 11 I love all the women in sports that I have seen using this trend.

Speaker 17 Alona Marr, Livvie Dunn,

Speaker 24 Nebraska volleyball team.

Speaker 27 There have been so many women who have taken this audio and just absolutely nailed it.

Speaker 43 So

Speaker 23 men

Speaker 52 get used to it.

Speaker 22 Suck us.

Speaker 3 Coming up, Hannah Einbinder and I are going to shout go birds at each other for probably 60 minutes.

Speaker 34 So buckle up.

Speaker 9 But first, this minivan mini update brought to you by Toyota.

Speaker 11 The real ones heard me say it last week. I've officially been won over by my Toyota Sienna.

Speaker 15 It happened, and I'm shockingly okay with it.

Speaker 5 Even though I've been wavering, I have to admit, once field hockey season rolled around, I realized I'm probably in this for long haul.

Speaker 22 I love that when I'm carrying all my equipment back to the car, I can kick my foot underneath and the trunk just opens up so I can unload everything right away.

Speaker 44 I don't have to put it down and find my keys and do the whole dance.

Speaker 9 You know what I mean?

Speaker 38 The other thing that's honestly very underrated, the cooling seat.

Speaker 26 Because your girl's sweaty.

Speaker 45 Not only is the Toyota Sienna insanely convenient for a high school field hockey coach, I apparently earned some cool points too.

Speaker 37 Or are they called aura points?

Speaker 3 Chat, help a millennial mom My players thought that it was so cool.

Speaker 5 They were like, oh my gosh, that green really brings out your eyes.

Speaker 50 That is an incredible car that clearly can hold all of our equipment and your kids at the same time. They were like, have you ever looked cooler in your whip?

Speaker 38 Do kids even say whip anymore?

Speaker 8 I'm kidding. They didn't say any of this.

Speaker 10 Darn it. If you want to give the minivan life a try and join me.

Speaker 5 In my Toyota Sienna, I highly recommend taking it for a test drive at your local Toyota dealership and heading to toyota.com backslash sienna to learn more.

Speaker 60 I'm starstruck.

Speaker 35 Stop.

Speaker 60 I am.

Speaker 60 I don't, I'm not one of these people who like cares about like the royal family. Like, I really don't.
Like, I'm not like invested in the British Empire in any way.

Speaker 38 Yes.

Speaker 60 You are my princess, Diana. Okay.
And I'm not just saying that because I'm in the jacket.

Speaker 59 You are that girl.

Speaker 60 I am actually starstruck. It's crazy.

Speaker 53 Like, I can't believe I'm eating.

Speaker 14 Seriously, you are so cool, Kylie.

Speaker 34 Oh, no.

Speaker 21 Has said no one ever.

Speaker 60 Awesome.

Speaker 34 No,

Speaker 10 you can't just, you can't bring the heat like that.

Speaker 60 I'm sorry. I'm forward.

Speaker 45 Let me try to read sentences and then I will bow.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 9 She is the four-time Emmy nominated and three-time Golden Globe nominated actress from HBO's hit comedy series, Hacks.

Speaker 8 She's also a stand-up comedian.

Speaker 14 You know her from her special, Everything Must Go.

Speaker 5 And perhaps most importantly, she's a die-hard, lifelong Eagles fan who I've been excited to talk to for a very long time.

Speaker 52 And of course, have no business.

Speaker 5 Hannah Einbinder, welcome to Not Gonna Lie and GoFucking Birds.

Speaker 60 Go Birds, baby.

Speaker 60 Let's go.

Speaker 34 Now, I.

Speaker 5 First of all, have you ever done an interview where you didn't say go birds?

Speaker 23 No.

Speaker 60 I think go birds is obviously a tool that we know can mean a million different things. You know, congratulations.
You just had a baby. Go birds.
You know, hello, goodbye.

Speaker 60 I'm sorry for your loss in some cases. You know what I mean? Like it can do anything you need it to do.
So I'll throw it in whenever I can.

Speaker 7 I love that so much.

Speaker 17 Now, before we get into anything else, I do need to start with my own not gonna lie.

Speaker 24 My first introduction to you was actually, it wasn't from Hacks.

Speaker 3 It was from another masterpiece of yours that made its rounds on the internet.

Speaker 37 I believe we have the clip right here. Queen Emma, can you roll it, please?

Speaker 53 Philadelphia teams have had to deal with loss, with disappointment, with anguish, with pain for so many years.

Speaker 57 And I thank the good Lord

Speaker 53 for blessing us and blessing the Eagles

Speaker 57 and Murphy.

Speaker 57 All our family is back in Philly.

Speaker 57 Uncle Eddie,

Speaker 57 we do.

Speaker 57 He just joined me.

Speaker 57 Why my name's on the back road? Because I'll never be trading. Never! Ever!

Speaker 57 Eagles!

Speaker 10 That genuinely makes me tear up.

Speaker 33 Okay, first of all,

Speaker 33 who is that sweet gentleman standing next to you?

Speaker 60 That's my dad.

Speaker 3 Of course it is.

Speaker 55 That is my dad.

Speaker 60 You know,

Speaker 60 you know, you know that Silver Lining's Playbook is a documentary. You guys.
You know

Speaker 60 that being an Eagles fan is genetic. It is in the blood.

Speaker 55 Yes.

Speaker 60 You know, my dad, that was a 2018 Super Bowl. My dad,

Speaker 60 you know, he grew up in Philly and he, you know, his dad was from South Philly and his mom was from South Philly and they had these seats at the vet.

Speaker 60 And throughout my dad's childhood, the birds were losing, they were losing bad, and they were there every game in the snow, you know, no matter what. And it was painful.

Speaker 60 And I grew up understanding that legacy, you know, and I grew up understanding that pain.

Speaker 60 And so I knew what this meant to him, to us, to our family, to his father, who, and I will say, this was not on the clip, but he did sort of go into the alleyway after that little spot on the news.

Speaker 60 And I watched him point to the sky with tears

Speaker 60 and say, This one's for you, dad.

Speaker 60 So, just so everybody knows what's like, this is that we were hammered, obviously. Um,

Speaker 60 just like no, it was so meaningful.

Speaker 19 The sad part is, is that uh, I don't know that it was obvious that you guys were hammered because I do feel like that is the standard of Philadelphians.

Speaker 49 That's right.

Speaker 38 I want to clarify that.

Speaker 11 I think that is the

Speaker 9 baseline at which we all function.

Speaker 60 That's a fact. To be clear.

Speaker 36 So that's a fact.

Speaker 11 But I do think there is something to be said about,

Speaker 44 like you said, you're born into this, right?

Speaker 57 Like you, not only do you not have a choice, but you better get in there

Speaker 39 with a passion that no one has seen before.

Speaker 14 And there are few prouder moments with your family members

Speaker 41 than

Speaker 15 the way you relate to each other in how you cheer on the Eagles.

Speaker 60 It's also like, I mean,

Speaker 60 that organization really cares about the fans. Like

Speaker 60 my, my beloved Aunt Cindy passed and my Uncle Eddie inherited the

Speaker 60 tickets that my grandfather had first at

Speaker 60 the vet and then at the link, which by the way, when they tore down the vet, my dad went to Philly and he got the physical seats when they were were letting people go get the seats.

Speaker 60 And like, that was so cool. We had the seats in the garage.

Speaker 60 And, you know, when, when my aunt Cindy passed, like, because Eddie was just always at every game, like they sent a beautiful message, like, they know they're fans and they care about us.

Speaker 60 It's probably like the top, like, when I think about my identity, I think the order is like Eagles fan, queer,

Speaker 17 Jewish.

Speaker 60 left-handed,

Speaker 60 redhead. Like, I think it's at the top.
I think it's above all of those other things.

Speaker 39 It's honestly, but I've tried to explain to people that it's not only what you're born into,

Speaker 7 how you were raised, right?

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Our, our daughters have known the Eagles fight song since they could speak.

Speaker 26 Like it was part, it was in our nursery rhyme rotations, right?

Speaker 26 But also,

Speaker 17 like it is something that brings together a community of people.

Speaker 12 So like, obviously people on the outside looking into Philadelphia often often have a lot of scrutiny for the way that we conduct ourselves.

Speaker 10 Our attitudes, I think, are part of the problem.

Speaker 60 Underneath all of that is a lot of love. And I just,

Speaker 60 I mean, it's, yeah, it is like this cultural

Speaker 60 thing

Speaker 60 that

Speaker 60 maybe is hard to explain to people from the outside, but, you know, we don't care.

Speaker 51 We really don't.

Speaker 60 We really don't.

Speaker 34 We really don't.

Speaker 11 Now, speaking of the Philly attitude, I have one more Eagles-related clip that I need to play you because it proves there's zero doubt that you bleed green.

Speaker 51 Queen Emma?

Speaker 57 The clip, please.

Speaker 60 Oh my God.

Speaker 61 If you're at a sporting event and the person next to you becomes raucous, taunting young fans, how do you handle this?

Speaker 55 Well, see, I'm the wrong person to ask.

Speaker 3 Huge sports fan, really into the Philadelphia Eagles specifically.

Speaker 61 The person in this scenario, that's me, taunting young fans. I will taunt a child.

Speaker 60 What more more can you say i mean that's a perfect summary

Speaker 34 uh

Speaker 56 there one a while ago there was a clip of a little boy just dropping the double bird um

Speaker 41 and

Speaker 19 to to a visiting fan and oh my god it's one of those moments especially because i have four children of my own where i'm like i tell my kids like curse words are grown-up words you're not really supposed to use them if my child looked at an opposing team's fan and flipped them a double bird, I would cry tears of joy.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Just, I'm not going to tell them to do it and I'm not going to encourage it, but if their soul spoke to them, if all of the former, former Eagles fans who have passed on, God rest their souls, came down and imparted the wisdom onto her that she needed to double bird an opposing fan,

Speaker 5 it would be one of the most beautiful moments of my parenthood that I can even imagine.

Speaker 60 Because again, it is

Speaker 60 the presentation of aggressive with the subtext of love.

Speaker 7 Yes, I will say that because we have fans, I've said it so many times, that fans end up having truth serum to my husband.

Speaker 31 So they'll come up to him and they'll be like, I'm a Giants fan.

Speaker 45 And I say the same two things every single time.

Speaker 24 Number one, everyone has their flaws.

Speaker 12 And number two,

Speaker 10 we can see eye to eye, but Dallas sucks.

Speaker 60 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 10 So, like, at the,

Speaker 11 now, if I meet a Cowboys fan,

Speaker 51 I have been known

Speaker 17 to step a few steps away and take a picture like this.

Speaker 6 Because

Speaker 5 the one person was wearing a Cowboys jersey and I was like, I can't stand next to you.

Speaker 16 You think I'm going to co-sign that fucking dumbass decision?

Speaker 31 No, it's not me.

Speaker 31 It's not me.

Speaker 60 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 60 When you

Speaker 60 made the decision to obviously support your family and wear the color red, but not wear an opposing team's jersey, I said, well, there's my representation in media.

Speaker 60 There is the person on screen who I can see myself in.

Speaker 60 That is the first time I have felt seen in all of film television history?

Speaker 3 Okay, because this is okay, then I can ask you the question, and maybe it'll help people who are still having some type of conflict with that decision.

Speaker 10 If you ever

Speaker 22 put on another team's, even an emblem, okay,

Speaker 14 what would your father say?

Speaker 60 He would

Speaker 60 disown me.

Speaker 34 Okay, thank you.

Speaker 60 It's it's it's not a

Speaker 60 it's not, it can't happen. It can't happen.
Now, look, I was born in Los Angeles. My dad is from Philly.
You know, I have, I have absorbed his tradition. I am fully in.

Speaker 60 I don't wear LA paraphernalia,

Speaker 60 even though I'm, I love Los Angeles. I'm super proud of LA, of the culture here.
Like my love for Los Angeles is a separate thing.

Speaker 60 So you're not going to, on one day, you're not going to, you're not going to wear a cheese jersey. You get it.
It's not possible.

Speaker 3 Here's the thing.

Speaker 50 Your love of LA is separate from your sports fandom.

Speaker 5 That's right. My love of my brother-in-law,

Speaker 12 separate from my sports fandom.

Speaker 60 Exactly.

Speaker 3 So now, do they intersect a little bit?

Speaker 52 Yes, that's what makes this a little inconvenient, but

Speaker 52 I have made it abundantly clear to Travis, and I will say it until I'm blue in the face, I love him and I want him to be successful. Oh, cool.

Speaker 26 But go birds.

Speaker 60 No, but go birds.

Speaker 26 So as an actor, I got to ask,

Speaker 11 can you do the Philly accent?

Speaker 60 I can, yeah.

Speaker 41 Okay.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 11 who does it best?

Speaker 44 And why is it Tina Fey?

Speaker 60 She's really good at it. She's really good at it.

Speaker 9 Do you think that you could rival her?

Speaker 7 in the Philly accent?

Speaker 60 That's tough. I would never want to go toe-to-toe with the ledge, but you know, I mean,

Speaker 60 I do, I, you know, it's funny, my best friend Emma,

Speaker 60 who's also from Philly, but she lives in LA, she

Speaker 60 says that when I start to drink, I start to get more of a Philly. Like, guys, I'm fully from Los Angeles.
I don't know what it is, but it's like my dad,

Speaker 60 like, I'm just like, he still has an accent. So I think it is in me in a way that is like very real.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 28 If you were going to pick, like, if you could hit us with like a, I'm going to go get a hoagie, go birds.

Speaker 60 Okay, I'm going to go get a hoagie, go birds.

Speaker 22 No, notes. You know what I mean?

Speaker 43 No, notes. You're from me.

Speaker 60 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 43 It's like, let me fold.

Speaker 60 Let's go. We're going down there.
We're going to go hang out with her and him. Wait, you want and go over there.
No problem.

Speaker 56 Perfect.

Speaker 40 100%.

Speaker 16 If you do not, if you do not find an opportunity to play someone from Philadelphia.

Speaker 60 Doll, I'm looking.

Speaker 7 Thank you so much.

Speaker 54 I got you. Because

Speaker 14 I'm sure you understand this.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 11 I made the example of Mayor of East Town.

Speaker 60 Yes.

Speaker 19 For some reason, Philadelphia has this pride, not only with their sports teams, but if there is anything related to us.

Speaker 7 Silverlining's playbook, perfect example, beautiful documentary.

Speaker 59 I

Speaker 42 genuinely

Speaker 38 watching it over and over again, you're like, oh, that's this diner.

Speaker 23 Oh, they're on that street.

Speaker 34 Yeah. Oh, did you hear that? Oh, you heard the accent.

Speaker 49 Oh, I love that he was so obsessed about where the remote was.

Speaker 10 You know what I mean?

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 44 We, it validates us in a way that I can't even explain.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 10 because of that, I feel like

Speaker 25 you have to get in there.

Speaker 60 We, we got to get in there. I'm always going, and what if it took place in Philly?

Speaker 60 And what if she's from Philly? Like, I am so pro that and working on it, like in an actual way, genuinely.

Speaker 51 Okay, great.

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Speaker 15 when there's tiny humans in the car.

Speaker 32 I will tell you, you don't realize how terribly inconvenient stopping at a gas station is until you have tiny humans in the car with you, reminding you how inconvenient it is for them.

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Speaker 63 10 years from today, Lisa Schneider will trade in her office job to become the leader of a pack of dogs.

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Speaker 11 I'd love to switch gears a little bit and talk to you about your incredibly successful career. First of all, congratulations on your Emmy nomination for Hacks this year.

Speaker 31 Best Supporting Actress in a Comedy.

Speaker 59 Thank you.

Speaker 20 Now, I know this is your fourth nomination, but does it get any less exciting every time?

Speaker 11 Because that is

Speaker 11 a nomination in itself is

Speaker 35 incredible.

Speaker 60 It's crazy. It doesn't feel like it's happening to me, if that makes sense.
Like I, it's very hard for me to

Speaker 60 uh

Speaker 60 identify with that to be like that is me and that is real and that is my life like i i find this level of like oh that's so it's such a bizarre and extreme and huge colossal thing that i like have trouble relating to myself because like we make the show in isolation we like it's a totally different experience than being like out and perceived in public and all of these things that like

Speaker 60 it just feels so separate. Like the work that it actually takes to make the show every single day and like the perception just feels like this alien thing to me.

Speaker 60 So it's so bizarre and like hard for me to even wrap my head around, honestly. But what I think is crazy to me is like

Speaker 60 the foretime of it all is psycho. Like I'm like, that's nuts.
Like that is

Speaker 17 that you're continuing to deliver is what it means.

Speaker 60 Well, that's the athlete mindset. I'm like,

Speaker 60 let's get those knees up. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Now,

Speaker 26 there's a very memorable scene in this most recent season of Hacks where your character gets so angry, she throws a literal Bronzino across the room.

Speaker 39 Where does this rank in your favorite moments from the show?

Speaker 60 It's up there. It's definitely up there.
I think some of the dramatic work that I've been able to do on the show has been rewarding, but I will say that that is like probably top, top two.

Speaker 60 And again, like I will, like my,

Speaker 60 I mean, it all comes back to Philly, but like my dad had this shirt growing up that said, I'm not angry, I'm from Philly. And like,

Speaker 60 I was channeling, like, I, the rage that we

Speaker 60 can access, like, yes,

Speaker 60 is

Speaker 60 Like, that's like what that was. Like, I was like, let's fucking go.
Like, this, I'm going to like like watch the spiral on this person

Speaker 60 for real. No, literally.
I'm like, the camera's here. I'm like, trying to fucking get it.

Speaker 34 No, literally.

Speaker 60 But it was just like,

Speaker 60 it was a very cathartic moment. You know, when you yell and you really fucking scream, it's like crying.
Like, it's like, there's catharsis in it and it's like cleansing almost.

Speaker 60 Like, that was like such a crazy experience. And I thought it was pretty funny too.
So I was proud of it.

Speaker 19 As fans of the hacks know, you're a star alongside the legend Gene Smart.

Speaker 60 That's right.

Speaker 11 I have a clip here of you two that feels like it captures your real life dynamic, but you tell me.

Speaker 60 Okay.

Speaker 38 Queen Emma.

Speaker 29 Your current favorite song.

Speaker 62 Ooh, I love the new Heim song relationships.

Speaker 34 Can you hum it?

Speaker 64 Baby, how can I explain that an innocent mistake turned into 17 days fucking relationships?

Speaker 34 Ooh.

Speaker 65 I don't know that one, but sure. It's pretty good.
I was going to say something about Chapel Row.

Speaker 47 First of all,

Speaker 3 you've nailed that so hard.

Speaker 60 Oh, that old thing.

Speaker 60 No worries.

Speaker 11 What did you guys bond over the most on set?

Speaker 60 You know,

Speaker 60 we have like a,

Speaker 60 I think the reason that the show, one of the reasons that the show works so well is because we had kind of an instant connection and we instantly kind of went to a place emotionally with each other that was really honest.

Speaker 60 And,

Speaker 60 you know,

Speaker 60 I feel like so much of our love on the show and in real life is bonding over our sense of humor.

Speaker 60 Like we have the same sense of humor, like we laugh at the same stuff and we can like kind of laugh and cry together. We've just like been through so much.

Speaker 60 And, you know, I think like she likes to spar, like she likes to like do a little bit of like roasting and like i i too love that like she's tough and really sensitive as well so like we have fun with that and

Speaker 60 you know i mean she

Speaker 60 she maybe with the music of it all like she's more in the frank sinatra zone which i can which i can rock with um

Speaker 60 but yeah we we just like had this instant thing, you know, that you have with people you just like, who are like lifers. It's just like.

Speaker 28 When you click, you click.

Speaker 60 Yeah, it was instant. We didn't have to build anything.

Speaker 34 Yes.

Speaker 39 Now, like I mentioned in your intro, you're also a stand-up comedian.

Speaker 3 You also put out your debut stand-up special, Everything Must Go, on HBO last year.

Speaker 52 Congratulations.

Speaker 8 Thank you.

Speaker 11 In the special, you talk about being a cheerleader in high school and how it ruined your body.

Speaker 37 I believe we have the clip, Queen Emma.

Speaker 66 Cheerleading ruined my body, okay? When I bend down, my knees sound like a gambling addict juggling dice.

Speaker 66 Oh, does that hurt you here? I'm 28!

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Now,

Speaker 14 first of all,

Speaker 52 we have had a segment on here that I like to call TMI.

Speaker 34 Some people say that TMI means too much information but uh some people like me like to say that it means tell me immediately so i'm gonna need you to tell me immediately about that knee injury oh my god i mean it's just like i've just repeated

Speaker 60 it's just trauma landing on my knees from like you know 10 feet in the air 20 feet in the air like getting dropped like you know i was a flyer and um i cheered in high school and before that i was a competitive cheerleader And

Speaker 60 it's intense. It's like a, it's like a crazy sport.

Speaker 60 And

Speaker 60 I got a ton of injuries. I mean, like, I'm just like creaky.
Like, I'm just like really, my knees, like, if I walk a certain amount, I'm having to like reset my kneecap.

Speaker 60 Like, I'm having to like lock it back in and play. Like, I should be wearing probably like a brace of some kind.

Speaker 60 It's bad. I just like, I'm like, I got to figure that out.
But yeah, I'm just like fucking, I just got aches and pains.

Speaker 15 you know how it is now when people say that cheerleading is not a sport yeah

Speaker 37 do you ever like dive deeper into that do you ever like really press them on it and be like okay give me the reasons

Speaker 51 because

Speaker 60 i don't know that they would be able to provide them No, I think people have a misconception about cheerleading, first of all, because it is seen as an accessory to

Speaker 60 another sport, like culturally and i think it's so rooted in misogyny obviously the way that like a sport that is so clearly feminine in many ways which by the way like i i'm sorry like i just have never met a more raw hardcore than a cheerleader like we are

Speaker 60 insane like the limits that that cheerleaders push their bodies to we have this saying that like athletes lift weights cheerleaders lift athletes like we are crazy and it's like it is so many multiple, like different sports packed into one.

Speaker 60 It's dance, it's acrobatics, it's bodybuilding, it's weightlifting. You know, it is like

Speaker 60 literally like cirque de Soleil style, crazy shit. And, you know, I think when people say that cheerleading is not a sport, it just, it just signals an ignorance.

Speaker 60 It signals a lack of information and kind of an incorrect perception of the sport itself. Like they see you just like there standing there on the sidelines.
That's not what it is.

Speaker 60 Competitive cheer has nothing to do with football, basketball. It doesn't have anything to do with any other sport dominated by men.

Speaker 60 It is all about the routine, two minutes and 47 seconds of high intensity, raw power. And it's amazing.
And we make it look easy

Speaker 60 because it's

Speaker 60 because of the level of athleticism that is occurring. It's so I think, I think people just, when they say it's not a sport, I'm like, oh, you're just like ignorant.

Speaker 60 You just don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 45 I think it's interesting.

Speaker 38 I'm not going to give exact numbers, but a while ago, I read a report on most concussions reported within sports.

Speaker 25 And cheerleading was very high up.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And if there is that much risk of injury, all these guys want like this brute force, like, oh, let's, let's tackle each other.

Speaker 11 Let's do other, like, really like physically bash each other together

Speaker 49 but we can acknowledge the physical threat

Speaker 60 that occurs when participating in cheerleading and acknowledge that you're pretty much getting the risk that you enjoy but with a finesse it's also like you know you're throwing someone 20 feet into the air and they could land on you.

Speaker 60 Like y'all could knock heads together. Like

Speaker 60 the threat of danger, by the way, in a pyramid, in something where people are like depending on each other, if something falls, you're getting the weight of 10 people on you.

Speaker 60 Like it is similar to football in that way. Like they're.

Speaker 8 Well, even just, even just in like

Speaker 11 you'll have to, you'll have to help me on my terms, but a base and a flyer, even a single person base, you're still talking about.

Speaker 11 even if the base does everything they're supposed to do perfectly, if the flyer twists themselves slightly too far, they then have to accommodate and adjust immediately.

Speaker 9 I just think not enough credit is being given to the fact that people are legitimately flying through the air.

Speaker 60 I just wish that people understood that intensity. It's like crazy.

Speaker 9 I do have to admit, I

Speaker 14 was not a cheerleader for multiple reasons.

Speaker 37 I um

Speaker 9 I'm not I'm not a makeup girly.

Speaker 24 Uh, I am tall as fuck.

Speaker 11 I don't think that's very conducive unless you're just like a supporting cast.

Speaker 60 You would be a back spot, probably.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I can't do flips.

Speaker 24 Again, tall as hell.

Speaker 39 Gymnastics, anything in that realm was not really for me.

Speaker 5 There was a bunch of reasons, right?

Speaker 3 My mom was a cheerleader.

Speaker 24 I respect it.

Speaker 22 It's funny now that we have four daughters and people will always say, like, what's the one sport you don't want them to participate in?

Speaker 35 Not once have I said cheerleading because

Speaker 19 I'm going to piss off a whole community right now.

Speaker 35 Go off.

Speaker 60 Do it.

Speaker 15 It's swimming.

Speaker 60 I'll rep you till the day I die. Swimming?

Speaker 45 Let me tell you why.

Speaker 3 I have a reason.

Speaker 52 I don't want to have to sit in a hot pool

Speaker 35 as the spectator

Speaker 11 and smell like chlorine when I leave when I never fucking touch the pool.

Speaker 34 Okay, that's it.

Speaker 30 That's literally it. That's the whole reason.

Speaker 10 It's not like I enjoy watching swimming.

Speaker 11 Also, I've I did the PA in college for two swim meets, two.

Speaker 10 I'm good.

Speaker 45 I've seen what I needed to see.

Speaker 10 Your child swims for a,

Speaker 11 they're in the physical pool for a maximum of a minute and 30 seconds.

Speaker 36 I am

Speaker 37 so out.

Speaker 5 I'm so out.

Speaker 60 It's crazy because that would be like when I think about the same question, I'd be so worried about injuries that I'm like, oh, swimming is like good for the joints, good for the thing.

Speaker 60 It's like, that is like the only,

Speaker 60 perhaps like one of the only safe sports. Yeah.

Speaker 14 But it's a very selfish answer of me. It's a very selfish answer.

Speaker 60 But it's honest. And, you know, I, we sometimes in high school had to cheer for the water polo games and I know that hot chlorine smell and it's fucking nasty.

Speaker 59 I

Speaker 3 will now that you've brought up the injury thing maybe i should change my answer

Speaker 60 that's what i swear like soccer these girls are kicking shins

Speaker 21 i mean you played field hockey right yes i did i'm are you rocking with some some injuries oh i broke my nose i had 13 stitches in my forehead from a stick um it's like i had a hip surgery on both one on each hip

Speaker 60 holy shit.

Speaker 34 I just,

Speaker 10 so maybe that's why injuries never cross my mind.

Speaker 34 You're like, oh, you mean like that? We all know.

Speaker 34 That's weird. I thought we were all doing that.

Speaker 60 Yeah, literally. I'm like, I thought everybody's knees sound like sand.

Speaker 23 Strange. Yeah.

Speaker 60 It's all cracking. That's

Speaker 32 interesting.

Speaker 23 Now,

Speaker 11 if you were going to pick a sport

Speaker 9 that you would not want

Speaker 19 the younger generation or a child to play,

Speaker 60 I have to say, it's cheerleading. It's dangerous.

Speaker 60 Yes, it's dangerous. It's fucking

Speaker 60 dangerous and bad for your body.

Speaker 8 I'm going to package up you explaining your cheerleading injuries and your

Speaker 11 like the intensity of cheerleading.

Speaker 14 I'm going to package it up.

Speaker 19 So the next time someone asks me what sport do you not want your kids to play, I'm going to say cheerleading.

Speaker 44 But Hannah's going to explain why.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 31 She

Speaker 60 gets it, roll the clip.

Speaker 16 Well, my last question for you, Hannah.

Speaker 11 I like to ask all my guests the best piece of advice they've ever received, whether it be motherhood advice, comedy advice, sisterhood advice.

Speaker 3 Um, for you, what's the best piece of acting advice that you've ever received?

Speaker 60 Honestly,

Speaker 60 know your lines.

Speaker 60 Like,

Speaker 60 I think from what I gather, from what I hear, and from what I have observed in certain situations,

Speaker 60 that is something that you would think is obvious, but is like not all the way

Speaker 60 being done by folks.

Speaker 60 And

Speaker 10 I

Speaker 60 think

Speaker 60 that like, I mean, before, because I didn't have acting experience, like I was just a stand-up comic.

Speaker 60 I think that helps so much because it's like a lot to hold in your head if you're like trying to think of the words and also trying to remember the direction and trying to remember the the physical choreography because you have to keep doing the same thing over and over so they can cut it all together and it makes sense and your hand isn't up here or down here.

Speaker 60 Like there's a lot to hold mentally. So if you don't have the lines, like it's just crazy.

Speaker 52 That's such a simple, short, sweet and to the point.

Speaker 60 You know, I like that. It's pretty simple.

Speaker 16 Now,

Speaker 3 let's do it with a Philadelphia twist.

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 19 What advice would you give a Cowboys fan who shows up to the link two weeks from today?

Speaker 60 Say your prayers, bitch.

Speaker 60 You need a blankie?

Speaker 45 You want me to tuck in?

Speaker 34 Perfect.

Speaker 60 Why don't you say a little prayer? Cause you're going to need God.

Speaker 34 I can't. Perfect.

Speaker 11 Go birds. And go birds.

Speaker 60 And go birds. And by the way, Kylie, go birds.
Parentheses. I love you.

Speaker 16 I love it so much.

Speaker 28 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 38 I cannot thank you enough for coming on.

Speaker 31 Oh my God.

Speaker 11 I'm so ready for Eagles season.

Speaker 10 I am so ready to wish you luck at the Emmys this year.

Speaker 19 I'm so happy we got to do this. And of course,

Speaker 51 go birds.

Speaker 60 Go birds.

Speaker 34 I love it.

Speaker 5 And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie.

Speaker 9 You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Hannah on my YouTube channel on More Ship Monday.

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