Ep 294: Carey Mulligan

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Welcome to the Off-Menu podcast, taking the packet of gnocchi of conversation, opening it up with the knife of friendship, putting the gnocchi into the boiling water of the internet, and waiting for all the interesting topics of conversation to float to the top of the water.

Podcast gnocchi.

Gnockey.

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My name is James Acaster.

Together we own a dream restaurant, and every single week we invite in a guest and ask him a favour, ever start a main course dessert, side dish, and drink, not in that order.

And this week, our guest is Kerry Mulligan.

If there was an Italian Dennis the Menace, his dog would be called Gnocchi.

Kerry Mulligan, an excellent, excellent actor, of course.

One of the best.

One of my absolute favours is very, so I'm very intimidated this week.

You're always intimidated, James.

By the actors?

No, by me and the great Benito.

Yes, you're both very intimidating people.

Yes.

You are always intimidated by the actors.

Not so intimidated that you don't ask them incessant and endless questions about the craft of acting.

Well, I'm going to hold back this week and

stick to food and just stick to

my job as a podcaster and not get...

not the fanboy out too much.

But I think people like you fanboying out and, you know, people like to hear about the craft of acting.

If you're interviewing an actor, that's a good thing to ask.

Myself, I couldn't care less.

You couldn't care?

No.

Everyone does their job.

Let's get it done.

So you don't care about the jobs.

You want to know about the food.

That's why I'm here.

We're a good team.

Yeah.

Well,

I'm interested to chat to Carrie.

She's had a wonderful career.

Yeah.

And, you know, I'm sure she enjoys food and she's got some stuff to talk about.

And she's in a new film, which I very much enjoyed called The Ballad of Wallace Island.

As did I.

It's out at cinemas, 30th of May.

Yes.

It's Kerry, Tim Key, Tom Basden.

Yes.

Also, a friend of the podcast, Sean Clifford, is in it as well.

That's three guests in this film.

Three previous off-menu guests.

Yes.

If you count Kerry, who's just about to come in.

Be exciting because I don't think we've, you know, we've got to get the full cast list.

Yeah.

I don't think we've done that for a film yet.

Yeah.

And had the full cast list for a film.

Yeah.

So, yeah, and this is a film with not many people in it.

Only two other people.

Yeah.

So we could do it.

It's well worth your time.

You've got to go and see it.

Really funny.

It's fantastic.

I mean, it's a Basden and Key joint.

They've written it.

Yeah, and those guys are funny, cheeky little boys.

Funny, cheeky little boys.

And they're funny, cheeky little boys in this as well.

Yes, it's about an eccentric lottery winner, which is played by Tim Key, who lives alone on an island, who pays this folk duo that he absolutely loves to come and reunite and play a gig.

And play a gig just for him.

Yes.

Even though they split up ages ago, these two.

But it's fantastic.

It's very funny.

It's very heartfelt.

Yes.

Quite emotional at times.

Very heartfelt.

I didn't know Tim Key had a heart.

Tim has layers.

Now listen, we love Kerry Mulligan.

Yes.

But if she says the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable, we'll be forced to kick her out of the dream restaurant.

I don't want to do that.

I don't want to do that.

Especially because the boats come very rarely and we'd have to wait ages for a boat.

Yes, if you've seen the film you've this is the first time James has watched a film in advance of talking to a guest and I'm beginning to see why we don't do it.

I've never felt more alive.

Because you're making too many specific references to a film the listener will not have seen yet.

And this week, the secret ingredient is mozzarella bag water.

This was suggested by an audience member at a live show that we're doing recently.

So that person?

At the Palladium mozzarella bag water.

I mean I can't see Kerry Mulligan saying that.

No, I mean they said that they liked it, this audience member.

Yeah.

You.

I said I'd quite like the idea of it.

You loved it, the idea of shotting pure mozzarella bag water.

I would happily stick a straw in a bag of mozzarella and drink it like a Capri son.

And then open it and have the cheese?

Yeah, I'd have the cheese, obviously.

Well, the cheese is going in a dish or whatever.

Yeah.

I prefer hot mozzarella to cold mozzarella.

Interesting.

If I was nailed down on it.

But you know, in a caprese, mamma mia.

But I'm not just eating a ball of mozzarella like a hand fruit.

So if Kerry says mozzarella bagwater.

She's not very good at banter today.

Well, I don't feel like there's anything to add to that.

I think it's funny.

Yeah.

Just to

let you run.

Give me a little giggle.

I'm a comedian and I operate off the reactions.

No, I'm always chuckling away at at the funny stuff you say.

I'm

putting up my best stuff about mozzarella hand fruit.

Yeah.

Give us a little giggle.

Let me feel like I'm doing my job here.

But I don't really laugh very loud ever.

No.

So like, I'm laughing.

I'm happy to talk to you about this.

I'm smiling.

Yeah.

I had a good time.

Yeah.

But like, you know,

Ed can't be very funny.

His best friends are not laughing at his jokes.

Well, I mean, maybe there's something in that.

Yeah.

Oh, you're smiling.

No, I'm not.

There you go.

Put that in for the early one, Benita.

We We don't want to kick Carrie out, but we will if we have to.

Yes, we will.

If she says, I want some mozzarella bag water.

Maybe it's still a sparkling.

Mozzarella bagwater.

Straight away.

You're out.

Straight away.

Back to the island.

This is the off-menu menu of Kerry Mother.

Carrie Mulligan.

Welcome, Carrie, to the Dream Restaurant.

Thanks.

Welcome, Carrie Mulligan to the Dream Restaurant, but it's meant to be for sun time.

Incredible.

Wow.

Wait, say it again?

Yeah, good point.

Welcome, Carrie Mulligan to the dream restaurant, but it's meant to be for some time.

Even less diction that time, I'd say.

Yeah, the first half, I got welcome to the dream restaurant.

Were you ever taught it?

Antono annunciation?

James, you're still shouting.

Why are you still shouting?

I got a rat and yo slowly come down.

So you'll ease back in.

You learned to learn to announce it.

No, I didn't.

Any tips for me with that?

diction that I just slow down.

Yeah, slow down.

I'd stop by slowing down.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So the second half, you've got no idea.

No idea.

Welcome to the dream restaurant.

May you have a lovely time.

Oh, that would be good.

That's good.

What did you say?

We've been expecting you for some time.

Oh, shit.

Right, of course.

And we have?

That's the catchphrase, but I think may you have a lovely time is actually slightly better.

I'll do that for the next guest.

Okay.

Congrats on this film.

Thank you.

Wonderful stuff.

I mean, you're so good in it.

Thanks.

For the listener, The Ballad of Wallace Island is the name of the film.

This is why we're a ting.

James is panicking because normally we have a little sheet in front of us telling us about the film.

I'm panicking.

We've actually.

You've seen it right there.

For the first time ever,

we've both watched the thing that we're supposed to be doing.

I actually watched Zero Day.

Yeah, this sucks.

I watched Zero Day all the way through.

I watched Zero Day all the way through, but we have watched The Ballad of Wallace Island.

And we've got a piece of paper which actually gives less information than I thought it would.

What does it say?

It just says it's in UK cinemas, 30th of May, and then it's a little summation of the story, really.

It's a wonderful film.

I genuinely, a number of of times after

you delivered lines, said out loud to my governor, she's so good.

Oh,

it's amazing.

That's so nice.

This is going to be a very basic thing.

And

James says we're very, very impressed by good acting.

So a lot of this will be...

Because I don't know how much...

A lot of the questions will be, how do you pretend to be someone else when you're in a film?

Things like that.

A lot of actors don't do that very well.

What pretend?

Act?

The act.

A lot of actors don't disappear into their roles and become that person fully, so you forget they're even acting.

A lot lot of actors can't do that for a number of different characters.

I think every film I see you in, I forget that it's you, and I just think it's that

that's a new person that I'm watching in the film.

And I would like to know how that's done because it seems it seems like a magic trick.

That's so nice.

That's literally the nicest thing you could possibly say to an actor.

Obviously, you said that to be nice, but that is really nice.

He means it.

Doesn't it?

Yeah.

Thanks.

But how are you doing that?

Like this one, legitimately, I just showed up in the nicest possible way.

I had a 10-week-old baby and Tim had asked me to do it when I was quite pregnant already.

And I loved it.

I read it and loved it, but I was very much not sleeping.

So I think maybe that's a good thing.

Just like just having to go into it.

It's a deprivation and then someone puts a camera on you.

Yeah.

And you can't really think about stuff very much.

You're like, stacked, I guess.

Or not act.

Maybe that's it.

Not acting.

Maybe I should try that for my next thing.

Sounds like Dustin Hoffman.

That's Dustin Hoffman's story.

Oh, what?

Dustin Hoffman stayed.

Yeah, he didn't sleep, did he?

But then, wasn't it?

That's the famous try acting, darling.

Olivier gave him some shit for it.

And then people falling.

And Daniel Day-Lewis has come out and backed up Hoffman.

I've been like, I think Olivier didn't know what he was on about.

Dane Lewis is doing all sorts of wild stuff, isn't he?

He's wild.

Yeah.

Seen that guy?

He was the goat, isn't he?

He could play a goat convincing.

And you'd believe it.

Yeah.

And

he'd seen us and shoes for weeks and everything.

It'd be a very convincing goat.

I think Daniel Day-Lewis is playing a goat in a film.

He fucking gnawed my trousers off my body.

Look at the credits for The Witch.

Yeah.

It's him, Black Philip.

Daniel Day-Lewis is Black Philip.

And that's exclusive to this podcast.

The most exciting moment for me in the film.

Wait, in our film or in DVM?

In your film.

No, not in

Daniel Day-Lewis.

Not in The Witch.

No.

In your film.

Was when Tim has Tim's character has made you all the curry.

Chicken

yeah he says afterwards chicken chicuti get this I introduced him to that curry I know you know that well I know because you said that you said that he said that on his episode of this I can't believe it I stood up in the cinema and I told everyone I told everyone that's me I introduced him to that curry that's I've influenced the film

curry jokes though do you want to take credit for those well I guess so because I guess because they're by association they were your jokes it all came off of that I think Tim had had a curry before James introduced him to chicken chicuti right we don't don't know that.

No one can prove it.

Can't prove that.

But yeah, that felt like a big moment for me as well when I was watching it, even just by association.

Yeah, yeah.

And there were lots of crumble gags.

There was a crumbly wumbly moment, but it was cut for

I think for the American audience, perhaps.

Yeah, he's a little more crumbling.

He slips up in a crumble.

He slips on a crumble.

But do you know what's interesting is that people think it's the rice pudding

because she sells them rice pudding in the shop.

And so the Americans, all of them,

think that it's rice pudding.

There's a clear shop.

I know, but they don't know what crumble is.

Oh, yeah.

There were so many good crumble gags.

Yeah.

And they're all gone.

There's a crumble blooper reel just waiting to come out.

You change it to cobbler for the Americans?

No, but then you're no integrity there.

There's no integrity there.

It's also not the same thing, a crumble and a cobbler.

No.

Cobbler's got more sort of solid bits on top, but more chunks, yeah.

Whereas the crumble is, of course, crumble.

Just crumble, it's just crumble.

It is just crumble.

We've got different gaps in our knowledge, yes, and we've filled them.

Do you find that with anyone?

Have you ever worked with anyone and you found you're like, oh, this is great.

We work so well together because this person's got what I haven't got.

I've got what they haven't got.

We're such a good team.

So, an acting partner, maybe?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Fines.

They're all good.

Oh, fines.

Have you seen The Dig?

Yeah, lovely.

Have you?

Everyone watched it because it was in COVID.

There was nothing left to watch.

Sure.

Huge audience.

I watched two people digging.

Yeah, loads of people.

Emerald Finnell, who wrote and directed Promising Young Woman of Saltburn.

Yeah.

But yeah, she's just very good, though.

I just work with very lovely good people.

Very lucky.

Who do you prefer singing with?

Banston?

Or

Check's notes.

Oh, no, you've

even got my notes.

You've got into a question without realising what you're going to say.

I forgot Justin Timberlake's name for a second.

Timberlake, Timberlake.

Baston.

Yeah, yeah.

Easy.

Easy.

You sing with Oscar Isaac in that film as well?

No, I don't sing with Oscar.

I'm just mean to him.

The three of you.

No, no, it's the soldier.

Marcus sings with Oscar, though.

He's not in the film, but he's the...

So in the film, Oscar's partner is dead.

And they have a duet, and that's Marcus's voice.

Yeah.

So Marcus sings very nice songs.

He's all over that soundtrack.

He sings on the old triangle as well.

He does.

Yeah.

I love that soundtrack.

It's a good soundtrack.

Any other knowledge you want to get out there, James?

You were pen pals

and then you got together.

This is accurate.

You were at at school with him?

Yeah, I went to school with him.

Yeah.

Yes.

Basson's dad taught.

Basson's dad taught me GCSE biology.

He taught Marcus GCSE biology.

There you go.

And I was in a production of Oliver with Marcus.

And Marcus was the artful dodger.

And you were?

Charlotte the Undertaker's daughter.

I had a blondring lip wig.

And it was clear from that production that he was going to be a star.

Yeah.

But then I told him very much to not do any acting.

Ed disappeared into that role, didn't he?

People forgot you even there.

Yeah.

How long did you live as Charlotte at the end of the day?

Many, many years afterwards, as well, for some reason.

Couldn't take it.

Just carried on, wouldn't take the wig off.

Yeah.

Did he ever tell you who

played the roles such as Fagan and

the teachers?

The teachers took all the adult roles.

That's a bit creepy.

It's mad, isn't it?

Yeah.

They're also the best parts.

Yeah.

The teachers took them.

Bill Sykes.

Bill Sykes was played by Sally Hassan, who's a geography teacher and a former Olympic rower.

Couldn't act, I'd say.

Oh,

it's fair enough.

Is it?

Yeah, he was really, he was bad in that role.

Lovely man, but not an actor.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Love to see a tape of that somewhere.

I've got one looking around.

Have you really?

Yeah, yeah.

I think it's in my mum's house.

I can probably dig it out.

Go away.

I'll get Benita.

I'll digitalise it and I'll

send it over.

You and Marcus round to Ed's for a little screening?

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah.

Not bad.

No.

You were foodie?

Do you like food?

I do like food.

I can't remember any of it.

I literally spent the last couple of days being like, I can't remember a single meal I've ever had in my life.

We're going to try and narrow it down.

We're going to try and at least drag one memory up for you that we've got.

Because I have three children and I can't remember anything.

So then I started thinking about food.

I can't imagine.

You nearly said you had two children.

I know.

I forgot one of them.

Oh, dear.

She's very little.

Three children.

That is nuts.

You've got four cats.

Yeah.

You've four cats.

Yeah.

I think that's objectively weirder.

Oh, it's weirder because it's not as normal.

Yeah.

It's not as normalised, but it's not as nuts.

Not as normalised.

Absolutely.

Having one kid is more nuts than having four cats.

Do you think?

Yeah, yeah.

In terms of like the stress.

something.

So are they outside cats?

No, no, they're inside cats.

Completely all the time, always.

Yeah, yeah.

They've got a catio.

They got a little catio.

We built them a catio.

Did you build them a catio?

Well, someone else did.

Do you use it as well?

Yeah.

In the summer, I'll go and lay out in there, and the cats cannot believe I'm in the catio.

They love it.

That's why you go toilet there as well, right?

Yeah, I use the litter train, all sorts of stuff.

Yeah, I'm a gentleman.

It's all there.

Yeah, yeah.

But I love it so much.

But I could not have even one kid.

Really?

Yeah.

Does not seem fun.

Oh, no, so fun.

Oh, no, no, no.

no.

No, you can't trick me.

Parents are always tricking us.

Yeah.

Parents are always tricking the non-parents.

And then you have a kid, and then they go, we fucking got you.

You're in the class.

You know, you've got to deal with all this stuff as well.

Say goodbye to your life.

Yeah.

You're not going to get me.

All right.

We all start with still a sparkling water.

You remember that bit.

100%.

Sparkling, but with lemon.

Don't want it plain.

and I don't want it with a very thin slice so I only want like a wedge how big a wedge are we talking decent like I'll take it as big as they come yeah like well this is a dream restaurant squeeze it yeah this is a dream restaurant we can give you just two halves of a whole lemon if you want too much that's not a wedge is it a half no i want like a little wedge but i don't want you know because they often will give you what they would put you know like a complete slice on one slice yeah no no slight i don't like the slice it's very frustrating the slice because you can't often they've been sitting out for hours, so they don't, they've kind of lost their lemonous.

They've lost their lemonous.

Yeah, I think...

What's the biggest wedge you could have?

Just one short of a half.

That's still a wedge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's got to have the triangle.

It's a quarter.

I think it'd be a quarter.

A quarter, but I reckon you could keep going with that angle and people would still call that a wedge.

Do you know what I mean?

I've never seen it.

Have you seen it?

I feel like I've seen it.

You could imagine it.

I can imagine it.

Can you imagine it?

I can imagine it.

Just less than a half.

Just less than a half.

Yeah.

You take a millimeter off a half.

That's a wedge.

I'd be happy as Larry, because then also that keeps going.

Yeah.

You're constantly re-lamining.

Every time you're refilling your glass, you can give yourself a little squeeze.

Do you make a sound effect when you squeeze it?

No.

Thank you for imagining it there.

Thinking, do I?

No, I don't.

I don't.

Do you?

Do you?

What do you do?

I think, yeah, I'll probably do a clown horn.

Yeah, that's that's classic, isn't it?

Yeah, something like that.

You know, give us a quick example.

Ha ha, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'll try it.

That's good.

I'd go, ooh.

Ooh.

That's more squeezy, to be fair.

Yeah.

I'd really, yeah.

More pervy.

Yeah.

Or is the clownhorn more pervy?

Do I get?

Haha.

That sounds a bit like...

It's very pervy in the seventh.

It's a pervy.

Yeah, yeah.

I think we stick with no sound effects.

I think you've got the right idea there.

Silent squeeze.

Something of a deadly.

And have you got ice as well?

I can take it or leave it.

See, this is what Americans have a problem with us for.

I do more often than not do the thing where I take a drink.

and because there's ice it kind of you know how it does that cascades down you that's a nightmare it really is what if you're doing that in the scene?

What if, like, they're like, okay, your characters.

I wouldn't never have that in a scene.

Water and ice.

Would you argue that?

I'd say that's not.

What if it was a really specific part of the character?

What if you were like head of a big ice family?

I deserve some practice.

It happens literally all the time.

Well, if there's ice in a drink, your drink just pours down your front when you sip from it.

I'm just so bad at it.

I don't know why.

Marcus

can't watch me.

I can't watch you drink.

Because I will.

If I've got like, well, if there's too much ice, you know, it's fine.

If there's like two chunks, it's fine.

But if there's like five.

You're a right off.

Yeah.

Five chunks.

Yeah.

Five chunks.

And he knows that.

He knows.

And so he'll see it coming.

He'll be like, oh, babe.

Have you thought about employing a bib system?

I literally,

not for that.

But the other day I was wearing like a decently nice shirt that he, and I was about to eat like a big salad.

And he was like, do you want to put on a so I put on a little apron?

Yeah.

At a certain point, you just have to know yourself and know that it's time to get the apron.

If I can do that at home, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no one's judging you at home.

I had brunch with a baby today, and the baby.

You don't like children.

No, no, I hated it.

Yeah.

But the baby put on as like a smock, a full smock to have

to have its brunch.

And I was thinking, if that was acceptable for me to do that.

What do you mean you had brunch with a baby?

I had brunch with a baby.

Yeah.

Who else was there?

Baby's parents?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Good.

I was meeting up with the parents, really, but then the baby's there.

So you can't see.

Was it necessary?

The full smock?

Yeah, yeah.

That baby was messy, messy baby with everything that was going on.

Yeah, yeah, that was definitely needed the smock, but I would like to also have one.

Add-size.

I was jealous.

Yeah, oh, a baby-sized smock ain't doing nothing for me.

That would be a nightmare.

I'm wearing that as a normal bib at that point.

Yeah, but it's got little arms on it.

Well, that's good for tying around the back of the neck.

If you had a baby smock, you tying the arms around.

There's not many brunch foods I can think of that a baby wouldn't make a mess of.

There was Shap Shuka on this table.

Oh,

root on Broadway markets.

Oh, nice.

Nice.

Delicious.

And

they were perfectly fine with my friend bringing along their own tea bag for that in the episode.

Own tea bag?

Yeah, they brought along a tea bag, and they were fine with that.

Why did they bring along their own tea bag?

This place doesn't do decaf teabags.

My friend was needing a decaf tea.

So they were fine with that.

I don't think you should not be okay with that, though.

I'm laughing because spent is currently editing this out of the podcast it is like it's so boring it's like the most boring thing i've bought up in ages i bring up a lot of boring things on this podcast uh and i can't think of anything more boring that i've said ever oh i loved it yeah yeah you loved it would you ever take take your own tea bags to a restaurant or indeed any sort of take your own thing to a restaurant i uh yeah i would take uh i'd take like slimline tonic schweps because i'm i don't like many of the other ones and normally they just have full fat, and I don't want full fat because it's very sugary.

I feel I completely agree with you, rubbish in the morning.

Strapping this is gonna be boring,

get ready for the most boring episode ever, everyone.

I love Schweppes, Slim Line Tonic, it's the only one you can really find that is genuinely sugar-free.

Yes,

all the others, the fancy ones, your fever trees, they've got like

10 grams of sugar in them.

So then you're basically having a cocktail.

Yeah, Schweppes.

It's got to be Schweppes every time.

And it's bubbly.

It's bubbly.

It's like bubbly.

It's bubbly as hell.

I love it.

It's a sponsored ad

No, but we have taken that places before, but nothing else.

Because, yeah, they just, it's not provided.

I recently got a big like palette of the bottles of Schweppes.

Schepes.

Yeah, just sort of knocking around, and I thought that'd be a good thing to have in the house.

It's a great thing.

You know, not really drinking at home.

And I'll do Schweppes ice.

Yeah.

I can hand as much ice as I want without spilling it.

And I'll go lime and then some bitters.

Lime.

Bitters on the top.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I got a lemon.

I went through a very long seed lip phase.

Oh, yeah.

One?

What's that?

Seed lip is like a non-Aperitif thing that you put in booth-free gin, basically.

Yeah.

A stands for alcohol.

Non-Alips.

Yes.

Yes.

A stands for alcohol.

Is it nice?

Does it make a difference?

I don't, not to shit talk it, but I stopped noticing the difference.

Yeah.

But no, and I think it is good.

I'm sure it's lovely.

Balanced.

Balanced.

Poploms or bread.

Pop-loms or bread, Kevin.

10,000 times bread.

Nothing gets popped ons but bread.

You've got to be careful when you're talking to a genie when you say things like 10,000 times bread, because he will bring that to you.

I don't mind that.

It's going to be 100%.

I don't want to get mental on bread because then you're too full.

But bread, warm bread with like special kinds of butter

is lovely.

Or I really do like a big bowl of olive oil with balsamic and sometimes it's got garlic in it, you know, like mushed up old.

I I don't think I've ever had it with mushed up garlic before.

It's not mushed up garlic, but like roasted garlic just in there.

I like the sound of that more than mushed-up raw garlic.

So did I say raw?

But that's what I was imagining.

Yeah, no, not good.

No, no, no, no.

Very much cooked.

I liked the sound of both.

Is that bad?

No, no.

I liked the sound of the mushed-up garlic in there.

It's a big play for the start of a meal to have raw garlic, I think.

I didn't know if it was raw.

I thought maybe it was confi.

You proud of yourself?

The face you pulled was so proud of yourself.

Oh, it's funny the way I said it.

Yeah.

Confi.

config yeah well so that's what it is it's config i just say config normally yeah like one i wouldn't like break up the syllables like that yeah it's something that i find amusing i used to know somebody who would say basketball instead of basketball

i don't play basketball what sort of bread are we talking is there a specific type probably something like brown brown

interesting where'd you discover that

this is exactly what i was panicking about is that you were going to be like in what specific restaurant did you have that specific bread And I can't tell you.

But we'll always ask, but it's fine if there's no answer to that.

I don't know.

Crusty on the edge and soft on the inside.

Yes.

I like that it's brown, though.

We don't get a lot of shout-outs for brown bread, to be honest.

Really?

People normally go like sourdough or like focaccia or something like that.

Focatcha, no.

Focatcha is so hit or miss.

I suppose this is Dream Restaurant, but Frocaccia can go the wrong way.

I think it has to be really good.

I think you can get away with like any old brown bread.

It's not really about the bread, really.

It's about the

soaking it and things.

And you said special butters.

Yeah.

What do you have in your mind when you're imagining special butters?

They've made it there.

It might have like a slight kind of something, like truffle or something flavour going on.

But you can't quite put your finger on what it is.

No, but they've made it there.

Yeah.

As long as they've made it there, they can put whatever they like in it.

Is there a cow out back in your mind?

No, not.

No, not that intense.

You've got to be that might be Day Lewis again.

Day Lewis in a costume.

It could be.

With another actor, I guess if it's a cow like a pantomime cow be Day Lewis and

Jeremy Strong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In there together.

Yeah.

Who's the head and who's the back in that situation?

I think you've got to assume that Day Lewis is the head.

Yeah.

Always.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jeremy Strong's.

He's earned it, to be fair.

Yeah, yeah.

Jeremy Strong.

And Jeremy Strong knows that.

Yeah.

And he's fine with it.

We all know that.

He knows he's paying his dues.

Yeah.

And he's loving it.

He's loving it.

If he's the back and he's the one that's got the udder as well.

So when the butter's made,

he's got a lot to do there.

Yeah.

I've seen there's somebody else for that, no?

What who provides the milk?

Oh, no, no, no, I would want them to

suggest that Strong is providing milk.

Yeah, you've got to commit to the role.

You don't want this butter now, anyway.

I don't really want it anymore.

Why?

Some Jeremy Strong's teeth.

You don't want it?

A privilege.

Yeah, I'm good.

I'm actually, I'm going to go oil and vinegar.

Yeah, fair enough.

That's a bit insulting.

If we ever have him on the podcast, we're going to have to.

No, I love Jeremy Strong.

Tell him that you didn't want his.

No, I just, I don't think he would want mine either.

Jeremy Strong would, if it was for a roll.

This is true.

Yeah, this is true.

Well, you can ask him.

Tell me

someone loves the thought of Jamie Strong's milk.

I haven't had lunch.

Also, you said it was for a roll.

Oh, yeah.

Bread roll.

Oh, yeah.

It's not a roll, though.

Very much brown bread.

Yeah.

He's a pun merchant.

Yeah.

I don't know if you're aware of the work of Ed Campbell.

Yeah.

Absolute pun merchant.

Loves it.

So we're going warm brown bread.

Warm brown bread.

Crusty on the outside.

Crusty on the outside, soft so that you can like pull it out.

and butter that has been made by a real cow by a preferably a real cow in-house in-house butter i think we can bring you the olive the olive oil and balsamic as well i feel like you can have the option and then you're dip in around if that's your dream then that's what you should have okay

Your dream starter.

Oh God.

Okay.

So stressed.

I am stressed.

I had to text my friend Flick and ask her.

So it's...

Well, you had to ask Flick what your dream starter was?

Well, she makes it.

So it's a...

I can find out more about that.

And I thought that it was...

I thought it was a her thing, but it's a Delia thing.

So it's halloumi with lime and capers.

It's a delia recipe.

I think I've had this delia recipe.

So you make the like a big jar of the dressing, you do the halloumi on the barbecue.

You get it off the barbecue, you get the dressing on there like immediately and serve it within 90 seconds because then that's the point of halloumi.

So it has to maybe the barbecue would need to be at the table, but it has to be that fast.

I think we can do this is a dream restaurant we can have the barbecue in the middle in the middle of the table.

Yeah absolutely just a serious because halloumi is only good for like 90 seconds.

Yeah I agree once I mean once it gets cold that's a nightmare but even like a couple of minutes in it's not good.

It's got to be off the barbecue dressing on service still a bit melty.

Still a bit melty.

And

it's got the squeak sure.

Yeah.

But if you're leaving it if you leave it too long the squeak is outrageous.

It's squeak central.

Yeah.

That's what puts me off it every time.

But that's because you're having it too late.

You're not hoping to squeak.

Yeah, but you've got to have it like fresh off and then it won't squeak at all.

But they have to guarantee me there's no squeak.

But this is my dream restaurant.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So there will be no squeak.

But there might be.

You want a bit of squeak, don't you?

No, barely.

Well, that's halloumy.

You know, there's always going to be the hint of a squeak.

No, but that's what I'm saying: is that if it's super, super, super like efficient.

Yeah.

No squeak.

Great.

I wish I lived in that world.

Yeah.

Anyway, my friend Flick makes it, and it's her thing that she brings.

Who's Flick?

How did you make Flick?

Flick is one of my best mates, and her husband, Sam, is Marcus's best friend.

It's a farmer.

How did Marcus make friends of a farmer?

I think they met when they were like teenagers.

Was he a farmer then?

A farmer's son?

Marcus was not a farmer.

He was spending time in farm country.

Yeah.

But him and her, yeah, they're best mates.

They go scrumping?

What's scrumping?

Stealing apples from the farmers and stuff

from orchards.

They won't steal them.

Did they as children or do they now?

As children.

Now, I've seen Mumford and Sons.

I'm pretty sure they steal apples from orchards.

They've got the look.

Certainly, first album cycle.

Was very much scrumping.

He kept his artful Dodger costume.

But like, yeah, were they going around?

Well, scrumping as children.

I think they met too late.

They were past the scrumping phase by the time they met.

They were late.

Late teenagers.

Yeah.

How old were you?

When you did Never Let Me Go, how old are you in that film?

23?

24?

Somewhere around there?

I got.

nish kamar the comedian yeah gave me that on dvd oh right bought it for me for such an odd man's birthday or something and uh i mean we spoke about this encounter but haven't spoken about this part of it uh on the podcast before at glastonbury a couple of years ago we were hammered at like one in the morning and uh i looked over from like i was getting some chips from a van and my girlfriend was like i think nish is talking to andrew garfield over there and i was like fuck you're not talking to andrew garfield you're absolutely wasted you know and i walked over and it was him and I didn't know that we'd been told by a mutual friend that he was going to be there.

And if you do meet him, just like, you know, he's never been to the festival before.

You guys have.

Just make him feel at home.

Don't go on about his films to him.

That's all we did.

Oh, but that's lovely.

At one point, this was going, I got him, never let me go on DVD.

This guy, I got him, never let me.

I was like, I watched that film, man.

It's just a good film.

Such a

film.

It's a great film.

Do you want to tell Kerry how you opened the chat with Andrew Garfield?

Yeah, what did you say?

I never met him before.

Yeah.

I shouted, Garfield, you motherfucker.

Perfect.

He would have loved that.

He did.

He said, hey, Caster, you can't.

Did he?

Yeah.

It was a very nice chat.

But then afterwards, Nish then told me afterwards, we were specifically told not to talk about Spider-Man.

And I was like, what?

What did you talk about Spider-Man?

So much.

Didn't stop talking about Spider-Man to him.

Poor guy.

But you balanced it out.

With all of his other films, yeah, yeah.

I was going to say that.

Does that balance?

Or

more about the ratio of Spider-Man to everything else.

Spider-Man, like 50%, maybe of the chat, was us talking about Spider-Man to him.

And then little bits of Never Let Me Go, Silence.

Oh, we mentioned the Jonathan Larson film that you did, that Tic Tic-Tik Boom.

Tic Tick Boom.

I was going to say, you should have brought up Tic Tick Boom.

Yeah, I definitely talked about that.

Great.

I love it when actors can sing and stuff.

I've seen you sing in two films.

Were you able to do that anyway?

I was singing.

And then did the films?

Or did you have to learn for the film?

I was a choir singer.

You know, I was that level of singer.

So I could sing.

I could like hold a tune.

Well, no, but like not

like a school choir.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I could sing in tune.

Two films I've seen you singing is folk singing.

Yes.

As you've done other types of singing in films that I haven't seen.

I sang in shame, Stephen McQueen film.

Oh, I've seen that.

I think I was mainly distracted by a certain person's dong for the whole.

Marcus went to the premiere of that with my mother.

And we'd literally just

met.

Marcus and I'd been going out for a couple of months and I was away.

And I was like, oh, go, go.

I don't know why.

But they went.

Yeah, you know the film.

You know what was going to happen?

No warning.

Oh, I did.

I think I said it's a bit racy.

But full dong.

A bit racy.

Dad didn't go, to be fair.

Well, the aforementioned Nish.

He went to see that with his dad.

Yes.

And had a whole routine about it in his Davey Edinburgh show.

Did he?

Yeah, that man can bend some serious fasts, I think.

Yes.

That's what you said about him.

Sorry, you're also very good at that film.

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We're doing main course.

Are we leaving the barbecue on the table or would you like it removed for the main course?

I think we should just have it there.

It'll be kicking out some serious heat, is all I'd say.

And are we outside?

Are we outside for this meal?

No.

No.

No, I do not like eating outside.

Really?

I don't.

People are always like, oh, let's sit outside.

Why do I want to?

Why do I want to be in the corner?

In Wallace Island, you had to eat outside.

You're eating a mug of peanut butter do you know what that was actually disgusting that was because Tim has an peanut allergy or a nut allergy right so I wasn't allowed to have peanut butter so it was biscoff oh my god that's too

like 10 takes of biscoff oh yeah did it annoy you that you had to make that change based on his peanut butter being in the script that he wrote yeah even though he's not a peanut butter

yeah yeah like a fairly lethal one i think yeah which is hence the biscuit when you do i've asked a lot of actors this but i am fascinated with it every single time someone's eating in a film i'm thinking right how much are they eating how many takes are they doing when they're just pushing it around the plate it takes me out of the scene i know i find that so annoying but then also if they're eating all the time i think fuck it out they must have i know it's distracting either way i tend to be uh in the camp of they haven't started eating yet or they're already done so that i don't have to deal with it's also the continuity reset is a nightmare yeah because every time you eat like a tiny bit of potato someone comes in and replaces that tiny bit of potato after that take, and then you have to wait for that to happen because they're diligently, brilliantly doing their job.

But it is sort of like...

But with a mug of peanut butter, it's not like we're seeing it in the filling it up.

We're not seeing it in the mug, though, are we?

And no one's wolfing that down.

No, I was taking selective bites on my coverage.

Yeah.

I was breastfeeding, though, so it wasn't, you know, the first couple takes, I was kind of like, oh, biscuit, yummy.

And then after a while,

not so much.

I will eat.

Now and again, I'll be eating peanut butter with a spoon.

I'll definitely take a little select.

What I like to do is get a teaspoon, peanut butter, and then dip it in jam.

That's nice.

Let's just have it on a teaspoon.

Just get peanut butter and jam.

That's great.

Now and again, I'll do a square of chocolate, spoonful of peanut butter straight on top.

Date, majul date, peanut butter inside.

It's like a Snickers.

That's fancy.

If you haven't had a Snickers in a long time.

You've never had a Snickers.

Yeah.

If for some reason Snickers aren't available in your area, but Majul dates and peanut butter are.

You are set.

They started putting those.

And I don't go.

I've gone to a pretty standard gym, but they've started just putting major dates out for free.

That's not a standard gym.

It's not standard.

It is a standard gym.

It's a very bog standard.

And they just suddenly started doing it.

What's bog standard, though?

It's just got regular equipment.

It's not fancy.

What else do you get for free?

Yeah.

Nothing.

You don't get...

Well, there's free fruit Fridays.

Is the dates including the free fruit Fridays?

No, no, no.

Do they have towels that do you have to bring your own towel?

Yeah.

I had to shower there for a few weeks because we were having building work done.

And I had to bring my own towel.

Okay.

So they don't do towels, but they do do dates.

Yeah.

That is weird.

That's a weird gym, isn't it?

They stopped doing the dates now, but for a little while, there were dates.

When were they doing dates?

It was like

on random days for about a month.

You never knew when there was going to be dates.

Stones in or stones out?

I never picked one up, so I don't know if the stones were in or stones were out.

I can't really exist.

I was like, I'm not doing it.

I'm here.

I'm here to work out.

I'm not.

stuffing my face with dates.

Good post-workout snack, though.

I love it.

It is very good.

Yeah, but I don't know enough about that stuff.

Don't risk it.

I'm like, I'm not eating.

That's the trick.

I bet if I eat that,

try and come back tomorrow, and my membership's been revoked because I didn't pass the test.

What's the test in that scenario?

You ate food, you're not allowed in here again.

Resist.

Yeah, yeah.

Free fruit Fridays always take advantage.

There's a bowl of apples, bowl of pears, bowl of bananas.

I try and get there early on free fruit Fridays.

Otherwise, nothing but pears.

Pears get left last.

They're the last one.

You're not eating that after a while, I can't.

They're kind of messier to eat, I suppose.

Yeah, people are either eating bananas on the way in or eating apples on the way out.

Where are you having a pair?

Are you not eating an apple on the way in?

Would that be out of the question?

Yeah, it's not doing you any good.

Right.

You want to eat?

And bananas go straight to your legs, is what my mum says.

Yeah, correct.

Hang on.

What do you mean, correct?

Like, as in, it gives you strength in your legs, is that not a thing?

Yes.

Hang on, it gives you strength in your legs.

Do you remember mum always being like, have a banana?

Go straight to your legs.

Yeah.

You've heard this phrase?

Just now?

No, but like I said.

Why do you take that in your stride so much?

That's one of the weirdest phrases I've ever heard.

It goes straight to your legs.

As in, like, fortifies you.

Right.

And gives you energy.

Go straight to your legs.

Bananas go straight to your legs.

I always think of a phrase like, if someone said, oh, I don't eat that, it goes straight to my hips.

Which doesn't mean fortify, does it?

That means put weight on it.

No, mum didn't say that.

But a banana goes straight to your legs.

As in, it gives you strength to like run up a hill.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because also now I'm imagining someone's legs going bendy like a banana.

Oh, no.

No.

Got the wrong end of the stick.

Completely the wrong end of the stick.

Yeah.

Go straight to your legs.

I think all of it can be true.

Yeah.

Where does a date go then?

Well, dates, unfortunately, dates are just quite sugary, aren't they?

Yeah.

Yeah, you see?

This is the trap they were laying.

I'm not going to fall for that.

There's so much conflicting advice on dates.

I can't sift through at all.

But do you want as a little bonus dish for your dream menu, I can give you the date with the peanut butter in it.

Yeah, I don't want that till the end, though.

Put a pin in that.

Put a pin in that.

We'll come in.

Save it.

That will come in to play.

So what is this main course, actually?

Have you got lots of options?

Because we can help maybe narrow it down.

Or are we in a scenario where you can't remember any of them?

I can't remember anything.

Well, no, I can't remember going to like a restaurant.

I can't think of like, oh, I went to this restaurant like Mezcal, went to Tuscany and had Italy, you know, pasta and whatnot.

I can't do that.

I can't remember places.

What I want to eat the most, which is so pathetic, is like burnt vegetables.

Okay.

Let's pick this apart.

I want to like a butternut squash chopped up, roasted.

in the oven, feta cheese, avocado, butter beans, but the bold beans.

Have you had those?

No.

Oh my God.

I never cared about butter beans before in my life.

And these bold beans are like insane.

And then pine nuts and then loads of dressing.

It's not indulging.

It's very rare that I can't.

But it's delicious.

It's not indulgible.

That's exactly what I want.

I'm so sorry.

No, no.

No, change.

When you said burnt vegetable.

Oh, I know, I know, I know.

For disaster.

Yeah.

You described it for delicious.

Delicious.

But you can do it with cauliflower, you can do it broccoli, but that's sort of what I do on rotation always.

Like hack something up, get it to almost burn, like really, really roasted.

Charred and like charred and yummy.

Yeah.

And then avocado, feta, pine nuts, lots of dressing.

Delicious.

That does sound absolutely bowls of that.

That's fantastic.

Yeah, yeah.

And it is a nice, easy thing to make at home.

Yeah.

That is very tasty every time.

Yeah.

Well, I'm bored for that.

What are these bolts?

Are these bowled bins a type of bean or is it like a...

It's a company, is it?

A company.

Yeah.

You shouldn't have been eating these.

They are so good.

Are they in like a tin or a jar?

They're in a tin.

Wait, they're in a jar.

Oh, my God.

Fuck.

No, that was good.

You said tin, but you acted jar.

I know.

I need to go to sleep.

They're in a.

We have that effect on a lot of guests.

Yeah.

You were not first.

They're in a jar.

They're in a jar.

And you see.

Little drainage.

Yeah.

It'll wash them off, but they are so delicious.

And you mix those in after you've charred everything.

All in together.

Benito's now showing us the bold beans.

There you go.

Thank you, Benito.

Why does it say 27?

Oh, that's for lots of them, though.

It's got to be buying in bulk.

Queen butter beans.

That's bulk.

Yeah.

That's six jars for that.

Six jars for 27.

Queen butterbeans.

They're so good.

It looks like a big jar as well.

Six for $2.

It's a big jar.

It's like, it's big.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Six for 27.

What's that?

What's the mass on that?

Why are you looking at me?

I'm not going to be able to do that.

I don't think.

Per bean.

What does it work at per bean, Benita?

48 for 12.

I feel like you should be.

Saintsbury's is marking that up.

Yeah.

You should be buying those bulb beans.

I really should.

They also sell out.

Yeah.

Couldn't get them from Sainsbury's.

They sent me chickpeas.

I hate to break it to you, Carrie.

Now you've mentioned them on this podcast, you're never going to be able to get them again unless they will get in contact with you.

What, bold beans?

Yeah, bowl beans will get in contact with you.

I want some first.

Bold beans will get in contact with you.

Yeah, okay, thank God.

But you better answer the call, otherwise, this is going to be flying off the shelves.

You won't have been again.

I couldn't get them last week.

There you go.

It's good because you didn't come on this podcast.

Yeah.

And now your life's about to change.

As long as you remember that you were on this podcast, because you're saying that you forget, you can't remember any meals you've ever had.

You've got to remember that.

You've got tins or jars off.

Yeah.

Does it help as an actor to not remember your own life?

At your own blank canvas constantly?

Yeah, probably, yeah.

The more tired I get, probably maybe I'll get better.

You can just completely be your character.

Just full severance all of the time.

Yes.

Walking into a new job.

Yeah.

Who am I today?

I don't know.

Someone tell me.

Who's the character you've played that you most were just like got lost in?

She's not going to remember that.

Got lost in.

Got lost in the character you were like, I feel like I'm that person now.

Oh, I've never had that.

Never had it?

No, although when I did The Seagull when I was 21, that's probably the most idealistic version of that I've had because I was 21 and playing Nina and very, and I was like very into it.

I loved it.

What happens in The Seagull?

What's that?

It's Chekhov.

It's a tragedy.

Well, kind of a tragic comedy, I think.

But

who played The Seagull?

We had a really convincing fake seagull.

And Mackenzie Crook played Constantine and Kristen Scott Thomas was in it.

And that was very, I was very into that.

That's pretty good.

That's a pretty good cast.

It was a good cast.

She was allergic for Mackenzie Kristen.

And I was really, really absorbed in that.

But that's, yeah.

I mean, Maestro, I guess, I was very into that.

Oh, yeah.

But I wasn't, none of it.

All of it is like, you know, take the wig off at the end of the day and crack on.

Your dream side dish.

Oh, this is so easy.

Roasted Brussels Sprouts.

Like really roasted Brussels sprouts.

Why is there an apologetic tone to that when you said it?

No, just that my main course was so roasted vegetable based.

But I do, they are my favourite thing.

If I see a roasted vegetable side, as long as they don't put anything too fancy with it, I just want them really, really roasted.

Right.

In a nice kind of, you know, situation.

But not too...

Like, I don't want like bits of fruit in there or...

Is that too fancy?

Well, I don't really like it when they put bacon in there either.

They do that a bit where they put in like lardons or yeah, they do.

Because it's amazing.

No, I don't like that.

Do you keep it pure?

Well, loads of parmesan cheese on it.

Yeah, I'll take that.

Yeah, that's good.

Yeah.

My suggestion got in.

Yeah.

Delicious.

Why Parmesan but not bacon?

I don't know.

I don't want like, I don't like side meat.

You know?

Only the meat that I elect to have.

But you would be electing to have side meat if you were to have side meat, right?

But you want meat.

But that's what I'm saying is that I don't.

You only want meat, meat on the main.

I want no side meat.

Not even really then.

Yeah,

we're meat-free so far.

We are.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not a massive meat eater, really.

Meat-free Mondays.

Free fruit Fridays.

Let's do it for every day of the week.

What's on Tuesday?

Now it's hard, isn't it?

I guess.

Tina Tuna.

Huh?

Tinner Tuna?

Tuna Tuesdays.

Tina Tuna.

What?

Do you love a Tina Tuna?

Tinner Tuna Tuesday.

Tinner Tuna.

Oh, that's it.

Oh, no.

That's it.

But you could do that.

Tinner Tuna Tuesdays.

See, that's the first try.

Tinner Tuna Tuesday.

Shit.

Well, I've done it already.

That was was my third try.

Got it on take one.

That was just for fun.

Doesn't matter now, does it?

Well done.

That's good.

Go on.

Huh?

Take two?

Tinnatuna Tuesday.

Yeah, there you go.

I'm not doing it again.

Oh, you don't need to.

You nailed it.

We're fine.

Yeah.

One take.

You ever done just like one take?

And then they've gone.

We don't need no more.

Yeah.

Wow.

That must feel powerful.

It does.

Yeah.

It's taken me 20 years, but I can do it.

Can you tell us what was the one take?

Because people love watching stuff

and nudging their mouths.

I can't remember a specific situation, but it does, yeah, it does happen sometimes.

If the forces, oh, what was I?

There was one take.

I can't remember, bad story.

Can't remember.

There's one that I was like pretty pleased with myself, largely because we were at the end of the day running out of time.

Yeah.

And it was like, it would be great if this was just one take for everyone involved.

You know, so everyone was going to go home.

And I did it.

And I was like, that's nice.

A director you've not worked with and an actor you'd not work with.

A director I've not worked with.

Who would be like, dream, dream next project, Wensleydale Wednesdays.

Wednesday.

Oh, Denis Villeneuve.

Yeah.

Love him.

I had a meeting with him, a general.

The generals, are you, when you're going in the generals, are you trying to, are you working extra hard to try and tell me?

I'm really,

I'm terrified of them because, because.

Because that's a meeting for the listener that's not about anything specific.

No, it's just a meeting so that you can just, and I'm bad at it.

And

it was years ago.

I mean, it was literally probably like 15 years ago or something, and we met and he, and neither of us really knew what to say and it was unbelievably awkward and I think I fucked it.

Oh no.

It's difficult to know what to do in those sorts of meetings though isn't it what you're supposed to be showing them well also I was just you know I was just sort of like I'd love to be in one of your films but you know

it's a bit awkward isn't it so that's why I like doing this because this is like a general

but I can completely geek out with them about their whole filmography and everything and it's appropriate.

Yeah yeah whereas if I have a general with someone and sit down I can't go you were in this you were good in this this was cool and all those things And then they're like, that person was too much in that gym.

We can't meet up with that person again.

Yeah.

But in this situation, I'm allowed to do all that.

You just listed things you liked about his film.

Yeah.

So I was, you're amazing.

So a lot of good ones.

He was very nice, but I just, yeah.

So him,

actor, loads of people.

Well, obviously loads.

Daniel Day-Lewis, obviously.

Obviously.

Oh, I'd love her.

You, Villeneuve, and Day-Lewis.

Yeah.

Together.

Yeah.

That would be fun.

That would be really fun.

Day Lewis isn't taking generals, is he?

Oh, he's not taking generals.

He's not taking generals.

No.

He needs specifics at all times.

I'd say so.

Yeah.

There's the story about when he did Gangs of New York and DiCaprio had to go for a walk with him around Central Park.

Oh, to get the job.

To get him to do the film.

Oh, to get him to do the film.

DiCaprio was already on board, and he was just sent to go and meet Daniel Day-Lewis and persuade.

Have a walk.

And he was just like, they walked in silence for ages.

And then...

Day Lewis was like, stopped by a bench and said, shall we sit?

When they sat down.

And then, yeah, he agreed to do it.

Wow.

Chicken thigh Thursdays.

That doesn't, I don't know, chicken thigh Thursdays might work.

Yeah, but it doesn't sound right, does it?

Thick thighs.

Thick thigh Thursdays.

Thick thigh Thursdays.

There you go.

Yeah, a couple of bananas straight into thick thigh Thursdays.

Okay.

Fried fish Fridays.

It's free fruit Fridays.

Free fruit Fridays.

We had that going in.

Yeah, that's true.

Are you trying to change it now?

I've changed it to Fried Fish Friday.

But that's, I mean, fish Fridays.

Fish Fridays is very...

Yeah.

Sorry.

I think back to the fruit.

Free fruit.

Free fruit.

You feel like it's silly sod Saturday.

Do you think Ed's a silly sod?

A little bit.

Yeah.

Just a touch.

A little bit.

Fair enough.

A little silly sausage.

That's my job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, literally.

Isn't that great?

Yeah, silly sausage, boys.

It is great.

Isn't it?

Get to be idiots.

Absolute idiots.

Especially on this.

Yeah.

This is less work than the job we got this from.

Yeah.

How often do you work on this?

Are you counting what's happening now as us working on this?

Yeah, this is work.

Yeah.

This is your job.

Well, we do it as many episodes come out you know yeah yeah i guess an average of once one hour a week one hour a week who's on your wish list streep oh streep now

we've had de niro the wish you're aiming really knows no bounds yeah yeah yeah yeah uh mr tumble streep's actually my top list yeah

oh after mr tumble obviously but streep's my number one i should have said that first mr tumble yeah 100 have you had have you even put any offers out to mr tumble i'm not sure we've we've gone and we've gone after tumble have we had a chance i think Tumble's pretty deep in character.

I don't think he's going to come and

do an in-character tumble.

Yeah, but we have to be in character.

I don't want to talk to fucking Justin, whatever his name is.

Yeah, but you want to do an in-character one with Tumble.

Yeah, 100%.

You should do an in-character one with Tumble.

I don't know enough about Tumble.

We don't have kids, man.

We don't know what to do.

But you learn about Tumble.

It would be so sweet.

You could just do like a mini-sode with Mr.

Tumble and children could listen to it.

Yes.

Finally,

one for the kids.

It would be so nice.

Because kids can't listen to us talking about fucking Michael Faffin as a massive dick and stuff.

They can't listen to any of that.

Kids can't listen to any of it.

But he listened to us talking to Mr.

Tumble about his food choices.

Yeah.

Like educational.

Yeah, so Streep and Tumble.

Streep and Tumble.

Who else?

The Rock has always been up there.

Yeah.

Top of the list.

Oh,

amazing.

Fair enough.

Catherine O'Hara is amazing.

Have you done a film with Adam Sander?

I've done a film with Adam Sander.

I love him.

I've done a film with Meryl Streep, very briefly.

What film was that?

She was.

What film was that?

Oh my goodness.

She was in Suffragette.

Very briefly.

She played Emily Pankhurst.

So we didn't actually.

She made a speech that I watched in that.

Pankhurst, the OG.

That's right.

The first woman.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fullest.

And Adam Sander is the nicest man on the planet.

Adam, first man.

There you go.

First man, first woman.

Yeah.

You've worked with both of them.

Adam and Pankhurst.

And I dare say you've worked with a few snakes.

This is a whole new side of you, James.

What?

Cheeky, the cheeky interviewer.

Feel cheeky, don't you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cheeky.

Your dream drink?

Coke Zero.

Really?

Wager Lemon.

I'd say a controversial choice.

I think it's going to kick off in the comments.

There's always a big chat about Coke Zero versus Pepsi Max versus Diet Coke.

Pepsi Max, no.

No?

And Diet Coke, no.

Why?

Because Diet Coke doesn't taste like Coke.

The point of Coke Zero is it tastes like Coke, but it doesn't have all of the thing, calories and all that shit.

No, I don't necessarily disagree with you.

I think Coke Zero obviously tastes more like Coke than but Diet Coke is its own thing.

Yeah, I don't like it.

Okay, fair enough.

I don't drink any of it.

Why?

Giving up caffeine.

Don't think I've ever.

You've given up caffeine.

Yeah.

James has given up everything.

Why?

Not everything.

Yeah, yeah.

But yeah, caffeine.

Sorry, not making me too anxious.

Not coke.

I've changed it.

Oh.

Yeah, I'm still doing cocaine.

Yeah.

Like a motherfucker.

And

I am giving up the caffeine, but I'm having decaf coffees.

You can't enormously tell the difference.

It just tastes like coffee.

No, because I did decaf a lot over pregnancies.

And

yeah, I can't.

It's all about the milk for me, really.

You can tell the difference with the feeling, right?

That you have after you drink it.

Honestly, I think it's psychosmatic.

I think for me, I'm like, I've had a coffee.

Yeah, for really, you get the buzz.

You still get the buzz from a decaf.

I don't know if I get like a buzz from any coffee.

Yeah.

I was never going after the buzz.

The buzz I was getting.

I'm just going for the yumminess.

I mean, I can get that from the yumminess.

I'm straight buzz.

Oh, yeah.

How many coffees do you have?

In the morning, I'll do, I've got like a pod machine.

Yeah.

Three pods in a cup.

Three pods.

Right up to the top, not diluting it, smashing that down.

I'm bouncing around the house at that point.

I'm like a fly stuck in the house.

Yeah.

And then I'll probably have another two podder.

Wow.

And then I'm ready to go.

No more coffee for the rest of the day.

Unless I come to do off-menu and then Benito makes a pot of coffee.

Right.

But that's always very weak, so it's not a problem.

Wow.

I get it.

out.

It's just destroyed him out of nowhere.

Yeah.

You make a weak coffee.

Certainly compared to mine.

We have three pods.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's got three pods.

Off-menu, Taskmaster, and

the Bobbin Bathew Cosby.

Yeah.

That's true, actually.

Well done.

Yeah.

Yeah, there you go.

I know what pods you do.

You know, Benito started something called Project Podcast for himself.

He's doing a thing called Project Podcast where he listens to loads of different podcasts.

His job is a podcast producer.

And now he's doing something that he's called in Project Podcast for himself, where he listens to podcasts.

Well, it does a podcast about it.

No, he's just listening to it and stuff.

He should start a podcast about it.

It's a thing that he's doing in his spare time.

I listen to podcasts.

Yes, but like...

Have you set it up as a project?

You don't work in podcasts.

So if you were to decide that you want to listen to loads of podcasts, it'd be fine for you to call it Project Podcast because you're trying to introduce yourself to podcasts.

Right, right, right.

But if you work in it and your job is to make them,

it's a little bit disconcerting

when you work with that person and they're saying, I'm getting into podcasts.

If you came in here and said you started something called project film yes where you're watching a film every week yeah we'd think that was pretty weird I watch a film every six months yeah I'm really bad at watching film what's the last film you watched that you weren't in

wow this is leave all this pause in because the listeners can know

I'm just trying to think oh wicked I went took my children to see wicked no we didn't actually that's such a lie I went to wicked on my own and Marcus took the kids to see wicked because I wanted to experience it without my children yeah yeah yeah, fair enough.

Yeah, that's fair enough.

So I don't want to be sitting there thinking like, is this scary or is this boring to them?

So I went on with my friends.

I then took them separately to see it, to be fair, but when I wanted the first time, because I was very excited about Wicked and I loved it.

So the drink is a Coke Zero.

I know.

And you've got the wedged lemon in there.

Yeah.

Do you ever, if you've got a can of drink and no glass, but there's lemon wedges available, do you try and get it in the can?

I have, yeah, but not in a restaurant.

Not in a restaurant?

I don't think so.

But no.

There's normally a glass at a restaurant, isn't there?

No one's just putting you in a can.

I love getting it in the can.

Getting it in the can.

Like getting it through the hole in the beer.

Like putting in a beer or like when you put a lime into whatever.

Yeah.

I don't know if it's as big.

Because if it gets messy, it's even better.

But also the size of the wedge we're talking about.

It's never going in there.

It's never going in there.

This is true.

Not the wedges that you like.

Holy Christmas.

Yeah, you're not getting those in the can.

Unless it's a massive can.

But you want a standard size can.

I would like a standard size can.

Massive wedge.

I don't really want the can on the table.

table is that okay you don't want to see the can i don't think so i've heard this about you it's gone it's gone i want someone to just come and shop very agreeable we have to pop up if she sees a can she's gonna leave and i see none here so we're fine no we had to scold bonito beforehand your people van yeah

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We arrive at your dream dessert.

Okay.

Very exciting.

Can you remember what it is?

I've had a good think.

I think it's somewhere in like kind of school dinner pudding area.

Okay.

So let's imagine we're going into the school dinners.

Okay.

What's laid out there?

What are you seeing?

It's something that I pour custard on.

Okay, so we've got the custard.

That's...

Okay.

And it's maybe got treacle in it.

So like a treacle sponge?

Yeah, like a sponge.

Is it a treacle sponge?

Yeah, but you know, when they make them in the big

huge tin, and you just hope that you're going to get like the good wedge and not the corner wedge or an edge wedge.

Whoa, whoa.

What do you mean, not the good?

the corner?

That's a big play.

Some people I think would like the corner.

Clearly, Miss Arrow.

The treacle will gather in the corner.

Thank you.

I will give you that.

But you're not going to get the biggest wedge

from the corner because it'll dip down towards the edge of the baking tray.

Oh, because there's that little bit.

Yeah, the bit at the edge.

So you're going to get more treacle, but you're going to get a less substantial wedge.

And we know

that you like a substantial wedge.

This is very much the theme of the whole menu, is inconsistent.

I've got to across the board with my money.

But yeah, so I'd go for that.

I'd get like a school dinner's treacle sponge with hot custard if we were to say this is the dream restaurant so you can have as big a wedge as you like but it could be the corner wedge how are you feeling about that i feel good about that yeah yeah you could go for a massive corner wedge yeah because i do want the extra treacle yeah gathered like pools in the corner i wasn't supposed to have school lunches because i had pat lunches okay but i used to sneak into school lunch just for for all of it or for just pudding no for all of it for all of it big fat boy big fat boy used to eat my my pat lunch at morning break oh then you were very sporty, weren't you?

Not you?

No, school.

Generally, yeah.

It was the sporty school.

Yeah.

Okay.

I was going to say, lots of running around.

I was in the B team or C team for everything.

Oh, me too, actually.

I was in the C team for everything.

And I only got in the rugby B team because Big Fat Boy.

They need that.

They need that.

They need that.

I was a wall.

It was just a wall of man.

Standstill.

Yeah.

Part of you, man.

Thank you.

You've got the hot custard on there.

We had Jamie Tart on this podcast once.

And

he calls hot custard hot cookie.

How do you feel about that?

Not good.

I've only asked there's a link to you and Jamie Tart, so it's fine.

Is there?

Yeah.

James, firstly, let's see if you remember the name of the actor.

Jamie Tart.

Yes.

There is a link, but Phil Dunster.

Phil Dunster.

Oh, yeah.

From Ted Lasso.

And Marcus did the music for Ted Lasso.

Skip intro.

Skip intro straight away.

Did you press the skip intro?

Yeah.

I think, yeah.

What do you think of hot cocky as a term that

him and his entire family use?

No.

No offence to the family, though.

I think full offence to the family.

I think it's hot.

How did it become hot cocky?

I don't know.

They just started calling it that, violently.

He thought it was like a normal thing.

Yeah.

But you get those things in your family, don't you, when people start calling things weird things.

Not hot cocky, though.

Do you have anything from your family that you call?

Well, just because of the children, sausages became usus.

Usus?

Ah.

Yeah.

Why?

Just because one of them couldn't say it.

Yeah.

You know, it's where all nicknames come from for, is you just, they can't say it, so they make up their own thing.

Maybe that's where cocky came from.

I can't remember.

Yeah.

But like every family's gotta, yeah, it sounds like a child was like...

Cucky.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every family's got something like that.

Yeah.

Where like a kid can't talk and like, yeah, you can't say that word.

Huh?

Not me.

You don't have one where someone, like a parent's name could like a grand

perfect diction when I was a kid.

I did.

That's why you have a podcast.

That's true, but really bad bowel control.

I've told you this.

What?

My mum said I had like speech way ahead of my time, but bad toilet habits.

So I could stand at the bottom of the garden and say, Mother, I appear to have done a poo in my pant.

Still the case now?

Still the case now.

You can articulate that.

Yeah.

Sorry about that.

Yeah, lowbrow.

Don't want to bring the podcast down.

Although we do start off in my poor addiction and we've ended the podcast on this.

Very poor dictionary.

Perfect.

Well, perfect addiction, to be fair.

Yeah.

The end.

Good.

Own Fastband's addiction.

Had a bit of that as well.

Poor Michael.

Yes.

Poor Michael.

We can't do poor Michael for having a big wanger, can we?

You're out of the conversation, and that's fine.

Poor Kevin for having to give him a picture.

I'm not waiting in at all on any of it.

Yeah, yeah, no, no.

There's no quotes available.

I imagine you had this enough on the Shame Press tour.

I didn't do any press for shame because I was filming The Great Gatsby and I couldn't.

I was in Sydney, so I did nothing.

That's good.

Baz Luhrman?

Baz Luhrmann.

Wear sunscreen?

He does.

I should hope so.

If he didn't, I'd be like, you are a hypocrite.

Yeah, I'm a complete hypocrite.

I'd go up to him and say, you are a hypocrite.

You shouldn't have given all the people that advice in 1999.

You should be ashamed of yourself, basllman yeah you should get him in here and tell him happily i'd school him on it i'd be like right these are all the things you told me when i was 14.

how many of them have you done that i should do how many have you actually done in here yeah although it wasn't him it wasn't him yeah someone else but he wrote the words i think it was someone else who gave a university like an address at a university did a speech and then he took that and he made it into put it to someone's music yeah and there's music isn't him either it's uh i think a rap what did he do produced it so you've i was telling my leonardo diaprio story which didn't even happen to me.

You must have been sitting there going...

What Leonardo DiCaprio?

Oh, the central.

Samuel Derry Lewis.

I'm doing that.

You're sitting there.

I bet you had loads of DiCaprio stories up your sleeve.

My DiCaprio stories.

Yeah, they're all great.

He's the best.

I mean, no, like juicy, nothing juicy.

He's just like a really, really professional, good actor.

We're never looking for juicy stuff.

We're never digging for the juice, are we?

No, no, no.

I wasn't implying that you were.

I'm just, I was trying to think of like a, like a, oh, that was good.

And then I was like, oh, oh, well, a nice thing is that we did, well, a very dramatic scene, you know, and there was lots of crying and sort of shouting towards the end of the film.

And we did his coverage first for whatever reason, for light or whatever.

And then we turned around on me.

And he was like almost better when the camera was on me.

And I thought that was really solid from Leonardo DiCaprio, because he could have kind of, you know, some people sort of phone it in when the camera's on.

Or go home.

Some people go home.

People have been known to go home.

People have been known to to act with tennis balls um but he was he was like trying so hard he was like practically better on on my side which i thought was really that's good to hear generous and solid and he was like that the whole time but particularly with that scene i remember thinking like oh my goodness leonardo diCaprio any other books you'd like to star in the film on can I talk about a book yeah yeah only because my brother wrote one okay Tim came to the book launch last night my brother wrote a book called The Accidental Soldier.

It's coming out tomorrow.

It might not be tomorrow when this comes out, but but it's coming out on April 10th.

It definitely won't be tomorrow when this comes out.

It's coming out.

This won't come out.

It'll be out.

Yeah.

This guy's not turning it about.

He's got Project Podcast on the go.

He's editing this and getting it out.

He's wrong.

My brother's written a book.

But the only reason, not the only reason, I'm very proud of him, but he's giving all of the money to Warchild, which is a charity that I've been an ambassador for for 10 years.

It's amazing.

Looks after children in conflict zones.

And it's very, very funny.

It was about him going to Iraq when he was about 23.

What's your brother's name?

Owen Mulligan.

Owen Mulligan.

The Accidental Soldier.

So treacle pudding.

pudding.

Treacle pudding.

Hot custard.

Hot custard.

Hot cocky.

Oh, and my peanut butter date.

That's when this is now.

At the end.

It comes right at the end.

With the bill.

Yeah.

Do you want like a hot drink with that as well?

Like a coffee?

I'd always like a peppermint tea with honey.

Fresh mint tea with honey.

Because then you can just sit and chat for ages and just work your way through a massive pot.

I did that last night.

Did you?

Yeah.

Who with?

My brother's book launch was last night, and then afterwards, I went for dinner with all of my friends who I had wrangled to come to the book launch.

Flick?

Flick and Flick was not there.

Flicks on holiday with Marcus and Sam and the gang.

No, it was my two best friends from school, my sister-in-law and my friend who works for Watertown.

Oh, one thing I got to ask before that.

What's the island that you're on in the film, in Wallace Island?

Not an island, a fake island.

Oh, busters, busters.

Movie magic.

Contact the tabloids, Benito.

The island that they shoot from like the drone shot, there is an island.

Yeah.

We're not filming on that, but that I think is, oh my gosh, it's like just off the coast of Tembi.

but the rest of it is constructed to feel like an island very clever yeah

i thought it was an island isn't it so pretty so pretty but i saw the sea and i was like i bet that goes all the way around oh yeah turns out no movie magic yeah it doesn't the i it was doing a great job acting i got completely lost in it i thought it was an island yeah i forgot that it wasn't an island yeah nomination for the sea yeah the oscars yeah if you guys do your job correctly yeah it's up to us to get the nomination kind of is up to you you are starting the awards campaign early we've we've done well we've had a few people come on this podcast and then get nominated for Oscar.

Who?

Yeah, we have actually.

Mescal, we helped him out.

With what?

With Afterson.

Oh, you did help him out?

Yeah, yeah.

Because that was a very small film.

That was us.

We did that.

Well done.

Yeah.

There was someone else recently on the Sebastian Stan helped him out with the apprentice.

He was amazing in that film.

Because of this.

Well done.

Yeah, he's opposite.

He had to act opposite half a cow.

This is true.

This is true.

Fucking bucket of a cow for the whole film.

He was an uphill battle.

have you been nominated before i have right i'll figure this out

this this is one of benito's least favorite things is james doing guessing games or figuring out what i've been nominated so late in the day for me to do a guessing game as well so he's going to really hate it naive yeah i think it's such a good first time no i've been nominated for three times i think such a big swing to ask to ask an actor you've been nominated for an oscar yeah because it's you don't know how they feel about it or i think we've been chatting long enough now that i don't think kerry cares either way yeah but like I think it is obviously nice, but if you hadn't been, you wouldn't be like, I don't bring that up.

No, yeah.

Maestro, so I got that one straight away, so you can suck it.

I didn't think you wouldn't get it.

I thought you'd know this anyway.

I'm surprised you asked the question.

The other ones.

Now, I should be able to get these.

I should be able to get them.

Doctor Who.

Should have been, right?

Yeah.

He was saying earlier, best episode Doctor Who.

Thank you.

It is.

No competition.

Thank you.

It's incredible.

Weeping Angels.

Have you seen it?

No, I don't watch Doctor Who, even though it seems like I should.

It's a long time ago.

Yeah, yeah.

I won't do all the films because Benito's going to want to wrap up.

So nice, I think I could definitely, I think if I thought about it, I'd get it.

I'm going to read your menu back to you now.

See how you feel about it?

You would like Sparkle.

If other people want to guess, by the way, they should tweet the Great Bonito.

And if you get all of the films right, you win a signed chopping board.

Yes.

And you're allowed to check on IMDb if you want and things like that.

But just tweet Benito, the three films that Kevin's been nominated for, for Oscars, and then he will send you a signed chopping board.

Hashtag hey Greg Benito these are the Oscaritos.

These are the Oscaritos.

It's very important.

Sparkle the water with a wedge of lemon.

Potoms of bread.

Warm brown bread with special butters and olive oil and balsamic and roasted garlic.

Starter.

Flick slash Delia's halloumi with lime and capers.

Main course, burnt vegetables.

Side dish, roasted Brussels sprouts.

Drink Coke Zero with a wedge of lemon.

Dessert.

Big.

No, not corner wedge.

Big, big corner wedge.

If it can be big enough, big corner wedge

of school wedge.

Well, I'm just too busy thinking about filmographies and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, you're still worrying about the other nominations, aren't you?

Really?

In my head, I'm like, how the fuck am I not getting these?

I'm going to continue this afterwards.

I'm not going to be very chatty after this episode because I'm going to be thinking about the other nominations.

Big Corner Wedge of school dinner,

treacle sponge with hot custard, and a peanut butter date to follow with fresh mint tea with honey.

Beautiful.

That's it.

The bit I'm most excited about, I think, is the Peti Four.

The Peti Four, the date and peanut butter.

Yeah.

So if your gym had put out dates with peanut butter and would you have

took.

Yeah, they would have got me.

There you go.

They'd have got me there if I'd done that.

Now they'll know.

I'm suspicious of this date thing.

Go on.

Just leaving out uncovered dates in the gym as well.

I'm not touching those.

No.

All the sweaty love.

Sweaty.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I've never seen only a few of the dates.

There's a lot.

So I think people, most people are thinking the same thing.

Yeah.

But Free Fruit Fridays, those bowls are good.

Individually.

Yeah.

People are going after those.

Bananas are safest bet there.

Yeah, bananas, safest bet.

I think they're the first to go.

I usually go around the time of day where there's just apples and pears left.

Yeah.

That's a good way to get fit.

Go up and down there.

Yeah, apples and pears.

The apples and pears, master.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pointing at me when you think you've got a good joke.

Oh.

Well, you know.

And then pears at the end of the day, no one's.

But I've had a pear after a workout once and it felt weird.

Thank you very much for coming to the dream restaurant, Kerry.

Thank you, Kerry.

Thanks, guys.

There we are, James.

Lovely menu.

Lovely chat.

Yeah.

Afterwards, Kerry helped me get them.

Yeah, you couldn't guess the other two that should be nominated for.

And Education, which is an early film.

I've got to say, I'm really surprised you didn't know that.

I didn't know Promising Young Woman and I.

knowing stuff about the Oscars.

I love knowing stuff about the Oscars.

I was so excited that it was like, okay, I've got an actual Oscar nominee here saying three films.

You love nominations.

Love nominations.

You're always doing it.

Yeah.

I only like the nominations.

Yeah.

Allergic to the win.

Kerry told me the films, and she also did not say mozzarella bagwater.

No, even during the podcast or after, she didn't mention mozzarella bagwater.

No point.

So that was good.

Thank you, Kerry.

Thank you so much for coming on.

Everyone's watched the ballad of Wallace Island.

Yes.

Which is out 30th of May.

Yes.

Oh, and I need to remember to get the video of Oliver and bring it in next time, Benito, and you can digitalise it so we can send it to Kerry Mulligan.

And then you could be an Oscar nominee.

Yeah.

It's very, very good.

Genuinely, do go and see it.

Yes.

If you're a fan of any of those people involved, you should go and see it.

Yeah.

Quite a few laugh out loud moments, I'd say.

And cry out quiet moments.

Some emotional stuff.

Yeah.

Cry out quiet.

Quiet out quiet.

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What a lovely afternoon we've had, Ed.

Nice afternoon.

I've got a bit of a headache, I'll be honest with you.

Oh, dear.

Yeah.

Yeah, Benio's got to have some painkillers knocking him over.

I've only recently been ill.

Have you?

Yeah.

And I've hurt my foot.

How'd you hurt your foot?

Box jumps.

Oh, there you go.

I've really hurt my toe.

Really?

So now I can't work out.

I can't work it out.

At the time, the main issue was my shins because I smashed my shins into the side of the mouse.

Oh, my God.

So I'll show them to you later.

But the issue now is the toe.

And I think I re-sprained it when I was having lunch yesterday.

You're eating with your feet?

What were you doing?

No, I was sort of flexing it because it felt like it was getting better.

And then I think I re-sprained it.

You flexed it so hard that you re-sprained it again.

I was a bit pissed at that point as well.

So I think I just sprained it too hard.

I see.

Having lunch.

At the Devonshire?

At the Devonshire.

Yeah.

With your friends?

With my dad, my uncle, and my brother.

That's when it gets rowdy.

The boys?

Yeah, yeah, that's a rowdy.

That's a rowdy lunch.

You're spraining your toe there.

Hear me out here.

Yeah.

At the end, we went for drinks afterwards.

My stepmum went for more drinks.

And I thought it'd be sensible to not have loads more wine.

Yes.

So I just had whiskies instead.

Okay.

How did that go?

Well, I feel I've got a headache now.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now you feel quite bad.

It was delicious.

And I do, whiskey is one of the only things that I will drink slowly.

Yeah.

But I still had like four.

And then these like straight whiskies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Bourbons, Woodford Reserve.

But a lovely evening.

Really nice.

It was daytime, yeah.

It was daytime.

It was lunch.

I was home by 7.30.

Smashed?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, getting into my bourbon.

I used to be into my bourbon, but I'm back into my bourbon now.

I've started watching a new YouTuber, and I'm sure it'll come up on a podcast in the future.

Oh, that's exciting.

A little teaser for this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I started watching a podcast called Hawk versus Wolf on YouTube.

Yes.

And I recommended it to Benito because he's doing project podcasts.

And he did not get on with it and thought I was pranking him.

And in a way, I was because I knew it was somewhat my street.

I love hearing skaters talk about skating, but I knew Benito would have no interest in it.

But I knew from you telling me what it was that Benito wouldn't like it.

Yeah, yeah.

You said I'm listening to Hawk versus Wolf, which is two skaters talking to each other about skating.

At what point did Benito think I'll put that on that next on the list for project podcasts?

Well, he's so committed to project podcasts that he's so just glad to hear from another podcast going, right, great, I can add that to the list and do another one.

So he's just blind to the fact that he's not going to enjoy it.

Whereas I'm like, I know what I'm setting him up for.

And his commitment to Project Podcast means he's going to listen to this.

Well, thank you very much to Kerry.

That about does it.

Oh, okay.

Well, thank you very much to Kerry for coming into the Dream Restaurant.

We'll see you again sometime soon.

Bye-bye.

Goodbye.

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