Ep 208: Izuka Hoyle

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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Off Menu podcast. Taking a little shot of the orange juice of friendship and adding that to the fruit salad.

Speaker 1 Not put orange juice in your fruit salad, James? Yeah, no, definitely.

Speaker 1 I'm laughing because my new favourite thing now is and adding that to the fruit salad really makes me laugh. And I even though I know it's coming.
Yeah. I'm trying not to laugh.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't know when this episode's going out with regards to the rest of the fruit salad. Yeah.
But I've also lost track of how many things I've put in the fruit salad.

Speaker 1 Or I think we said I'd do five, maybe. I don't know how many we said you would do.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 I know that I'm not really sure how many things and what the things are that you've put in the fruit salad so far um

Speaker 1 and i think it was a safe bet because you haven't put any juice in it yet to add the orange juice in the fruit salad but now you've done that yeah so it has to be just the fruit from now on yeah and i have no idea what's in this fruit salad yeah because at some point i'm gonna have to finish making the fruit salad and then that's when people are gonna have to enter the competition which you may or may not have heard about yet yeah yeah so i don't yeah at some point we've declared there's a competition with this fruit salad thing but um we don't know which one that is no

Speaker 1 and what order these episodes are going to go out in and you would have thought Benito might know but obviously Benito only hears the episodes back again when he's editing them yeah based on the schedule of where we're releasing them

Speaker 1 so who knows who knows so you know most likely the first fruit salad one isn't going to be the first one that goes out so there will be some where it's adding it to the fruit salad and that won't make any sense to the listeners yeah and then there'll eventually be one where we establish the premise of the fruit salad competition yeah and that might even be the last one.

Speaker 1 Might be. No, no.
No, no. Benito's also not been keeping track, but we don't expect that.
No, we don't expect that. He's got enough on his plate.
That's a gamble. My name is James A.
Caster.

Speaker 1 We own a dream restaurant and we invite a guest in every single week and we ask them their favorite ever started main course dessert, side dish, and drink. Not in that order.

Speaker 1 And this week, our guest is Azuka Hoyle. Azuka Hoyle, a wonderful actor.

Speaker 1 Boiling point, James. She's in boiling point.

Speaker 1 She's in big boys. Amazing.
I mean, look, boiling point, it's this is perfect brand synergy. We've got someone who has actually played a chef.
Yes. On the podcast.

Speaker 1 We've had actual chefs before, of course. We've had actual chefs before.
But this just makes so much sense. This is cooler.
Yes. Than all the chefs we've had on.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the film's great. The film's fantastic.
And rather excitingly, it has become a TV series,

Speaker 1 which is out now. It's BBC One, and you can watch it on BBC iPlayer.
Very excited. Definitely going to watch every single episode.
Love the film. I'm definitely going to ask Azuka about all of that.

Speaker 1 I mean, you try and hold me back. I'm going to want to know everything about boiling point.

Speaker 1 I don't know why I would hold you back on a format where we do ask people about their work to stop you asking questions about it.

Speaker 1 Sure, some of the times we've had guests in here, you have asked too much about that work and shown too much enthusiasm and really hung around on those topics for too long.

Speaker 1 Plucking an example out of the air, talking to Florence Pew about Midsummer. What are you talking about? That was good.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of chat about Midsummer. Was it? Yeah.
I had to listen back. I had to take your word for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think that went alright. Well, I mean, I love Boiling Points, so we might be in for another one here.
Yes, we're very excited to talk to Azuka and finding out what her dream meal is.

Speaker 1 But of course, if there is a secret ingredient, we will be kicking Azuka out of the restaurant. That ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable.
And this week, the secret ingredient is

Speaker 1 walnut oil. Walnut oil, not one of my favorite oils.
No? No. You got a favourite?

Speaker 1 Depends. Are you using it for cooking or dressing? Um, I don't want you to wear it, Ed.

Speaker 1 I see. Uh, salad dressing or cooking, James? Uh, salad dressing, I don't know.
Yeah, well, walnut oil, maybe salad dressing is all right.

Speaker 1 I like sesame oil in a salad salad, depending on what's in there.

Speaker 1 I mean, if I'm just making a dressing anyway, I'll probably go with like you know a rapeseed oil something like that delicious olive oil because the old the old classic the old classic yeah if you've seen boiling point you'll know why we're choosing this oil if you haven't we're not going to spoil it for you walnut oil is important to the plot it is important yes so you'd think if you've seen the film that azuka would not choose this but we will see fingers crossed anyway because i'm looking forward to talking to azuka big fan of her work so this is the off menu menu of azuka azuka oil

Speaker 1 Welcome, Azooka, to the Dream Restaurant. Hey!

Speaker 1 Welcome, Azooka Hoyle, to the Dream Restaurant. Been expecting you for some time.

Speaker 1 Why are you look so worried now, James, straight away?

Speaker 7 What's wrong?

Speaker 7 What went so wrong so quickly, James?

Speaker 1 That's not what you want from a genie, is it? That they come out

Speaker 1 and then they look perturbed. I didn't like the sound I made with the pssh.
I felt like it was too... No, I thought it was quite impressive.
Yeah. I thought it was too, like...

Speaker 1 I had a hard P sound at the beginning of it.

Speaker 1 Which I don't normally... Yeah, Tuplosive.
Isn't that Benito? Tuplosive? That's your brand? Yeah. That's your brand, Benito.
Not your production company. Benito's got a brand.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you have a brand?

Speaker 1 No. Azooka? No, I don't.
I guess if you're an actor, it's bad if you've got a brand, is it?

Speaker 1 That means you

Speaker 1 get cast as one thing all the time.

Speaker 7 No, if you've watched, you mean like a typecast? Like if you've got a thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you did have like a brand that was you, do you think that would affect the casting you would always get cast as the same kind of stuff because everyone associates you with a certain vibe i mean that does make sense yes but i like to think of myself as having a bit more to offer they could see past the brand yeah and see the ability and still cast me in every role which is really just the same yeah yeah every role do you want to be every role every role no no no that's too much work i'm exhausted just thinking of that no no no truly i'm exhausted

Speaker 1 to be the first actor to do every role oh no it's not that Hello, Eddie Murphy. Oh, yeah, sorry, Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 1 Eddie Murphy's done every role.

Speaker 7 Eddie Murphy has done every role, and Eddie Murphy is very funny. He's much funnier than I.

Speaker 1 How about this, though? Go on. How about I? I'm a big studio guy, and I come up to you and I say, Azuka, here's the here's the idea.
Do the voice, huh? Do the big studio guy.

Speaker 1 Azuka, we've got a big idea for you.

Speaker 1 Shrek? We're gonna... No, I'm not Shrek.

Speaker 1 I'm a big studio.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And we've got an idea for you, Azuka.
We're going to remake Nutty Professor and you're going to be every single member of the clubs. Could never.

Speaker 1 Come on. We want you.

Speaker 1 Could never. We want you.
Could never. Everyone is saying they want you.
It would be a real left turn career-wise.

Speaker 7 It would be left turn. It'd probably also be the end of the roads.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That left turn would be the end of the roads.
Come on. Imagine if you pulled that off.

Speaker 7 Dropped, dropped, dropped by everyone on the team.

Speaker 1 Imagine if you pulled that off.

Speaker 7 Oh, sensational. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure how people feel about the nutty professor as a piece of work now. But it would need to be rebanked.
You can't just do it as is.

Speaker 1 Someone would have to rewrite it.

Speaker 7 I've not watched it in a very long time, but

Speaker 1 it's not aged great. Great question.

Speaker 1 I think, you know, someone could write a new version of it. Yeah.
And if you get, like, yeah, someone else to do that and take that on, whoever did that, if they nailed it,

Speaker 1 that's Hall of Fame. You're in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 Hall of Fame. I mean, yeah, if you want to be in the Hall of Fame, then that's probably a good avenue to go down.

Speaker 1 You know, I just want to keep make enough peas to be able to buy myself a home and my friends a home and keep playing lots of fun characters yeah well i'd say nutty professor you play a lot of fun characters and you're probably making lots of peas this is true yeah imagine the peas i feel like i just have to say yes i'm gonna do it and

Speaker 1 segue yeah

Speaker 1 because we won't drop it

Speaker 1 neither of you will drop it so uh yeah why not nutty professor all the roles someone will write it stupendous we're in the dream restaurant of course in the film and the new tv series i'm guessing you you don't work in a dream restaurant it's a bit of a nightmare in that place yeah it's pretty

Speaker 7 yeah boiling we're talking about boiling point we're talking about boiling point a stressful restaurant yes yeah apparently very accurate to a lot of kitchens yeah yeah i mean a lot of us got to kind of go in and watch a lot of chefs cooking in very stressful times and they didn't hold that because they had an audience that's for sure

Speaker 7 um and also you know phil who wrote it and directed it he is a former chef and then we had chefs working on the show with us and working on the film and they all just loved to kind of let us know how stressful it was and it is yeah it's a it's a hot environment it put me off ever working in a kitchen oh did it yeah from what all positions not just a chef yeah i think every everyone has a stressful time in the film right Yeah, matrices,

Speaker 7 the waiters, the waitresses, the KPs. I don't think anyone's having fun.

Speaker 1 No, if anything, I think the experience of the front of house in that film made me think that's the worst position because you're getting it from the kitchen and then horrible, horrible customers as well.

Speaker 1 You just can't catch a break. No.
How many takes do you do of it?

Speaker 7 Of the film. Yeah.
We did

Speaker 7 four. We did two on the first day, two on the second day.
And the film that you're watching is the first of the second day. Take three.

Speaker 1 Wow. Did anyone mess up at any point and then it had to start again? No.

Speaker 7 Wow. And a lot of our dialogue is improvised by the actors.
So we were just in the zone, bro.

Speaker 1 I would be so in my own head. Would you? Oh, if it came to me and it's like, right, you gotta go now.
And like, every time it comes to you,

Speaker 1 are you not thinking, oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 I gotta, I gotta get this.

Speaker 1 If I fucking say this, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 7 The thing is, is that because you've got the leeway of improvisation, you don't, there's nothing to get right. There's beats you have to hit, right?

Speaker 7 So there's certain, you need to, you've got a certain amount of time to hit certain stuff and then make sure that if you're in charge of motivating the camera to move to the next bit, then you've done that.

Speaker 7 But in terms of the exchange that happens with the other character, I was having a whale of a time. When the camera would come over, I was like, here we fucking go.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, I'd get in my head. I'd suddenly be like, and I wouldn't want to do this, but in my head, I'd be going, oh, God, I'm going to try and introduce a new story element here.
And then

Speaker 1 the camera would pan around and go, I saw a ghost the other day.

Speaker 1 So you saw a ghost.

Speaker 1 I saw a ghost. I saw a ghost in the kitchen.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 That's really good.

Speaker 1 See what anyone else had to do. So they could provide their own.
We've rehearsed, we've practiced, we've got some kind of thing.

Speaker 7 And then you just take us completely off fucking horse and go

Speaker 1 in the pantry.

Speaker 7 I need you to know if someone can help.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And see what they do.

Speaker 7 Meanwhile, Stephen Graham's just stood looking at you like he's going to rip your head off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's his resting face, right?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 7 he's like a giant puppy as well, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Uh-oh. Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 Go on. Nah, nah, no.
I actually saw that. Shorty is like a giant little puppy dog.
Sure, he is like a little puppy dog. So he shouldn't run his mouth off on TV shows.

Speaker 7 Has he ever made a statement

Speaker 7 to counter your challenge?

Speaker 1 No, because he's a busy man who doesn't need to be bothering himself with stupid little things on the other side. Jonathan Ross, he fired shots at Romish.
That's all of us.

Speaker 1 And I'm disappointed in you, Ed, for not... not calling him out.
Oh look, I'm not calling him out, but I'm very happy for you to call him out because I want to see what happens.

Speaker 1 You know what's going to happen. Yeah.
You're going to get your head.

Speaker 7 You're going to get absolutely fucking pummeled.

Speaker 1 As if, man,

Speaker 1 that would never happen.

Speaker 7 Have you seen him recently?

Speaker 1 Has he seen himself?

Speaker 1 Has he seen me? Has he seen himself? How's that a comeback?

Speaker 7 Yeah, he looked at himself and went, yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Even without him here, you panic there.

Speaker 1 Has he seen himself? Has he seen himself? Has he seen himself? Has he made me think again?

Speaker 1 No, I don't want to see what would happen. I tell you what, we wouldn't even need one take, man.
Me beating him up. We do that in half a take.
Yeah. Game over.
End of film.

Speaker 1 Is it a film that you're getting beaten up in now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm the hero.
Whenever I think about like one take things or I always remember when they used to try and do like the bill live.

Speaker 1 So like everyone's panicking about not getting it right, but they'd always cut to the scene too early and there'd just be some people stood behind a window and a door, just stood there staring straight ahead.

Speaker 1 And they stand there for five seconds and then walk through the door and start talking. That would be me.
I couldn't hack it. Are you acting off camera as well?

Speaker 7 Yeah, we try and stay in it as much, but I mean, I'm prone to a little giggle now and again. Adds the stakes.
Do you know what I mean? Pardon the pun.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'd mess it up.

Speaker 7 I mean, listen, you don't know until you've tried.

Speaker 7 Have you ever done any sort of like improv, not in the world of comedy, more in like dramatic film, television setting?

Speaker 1 A tiny bit, but even then

Speaker 1 I'm not used to being on those things, so I panic on that. Really? Yeah, we're not.
How does your panic panic? I'm advised as comedians all the time on stage.

Speaker 1 Of of course but then once the once the cameras are on you and you're doing a thing i'm like oh no i'm i'm starting to think overthink it in my head what i'm going to say because everyone's cameras are rolling i don't want to like have to start again do you find that your instinct is that you need to be funny in those moments yes

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah yeah you've got the comedic curse yeah because the way my brain works is i think what's the point in me saying anything unless it's funny ah so i'm if i was improvising in a dramatic scenario i'd just be stood silently yeah that's why it would be yeah

Speaker 1 I saw a ghost.

Speaker 1 I saw a ghost. That's why that would happen.

Speaker 1 That really got me. It would be all about that.
So the new Boiling Point TV series, I guess, is that shot more like a traditional TV series? There are long shots in it.

Speaker 7 The series will open with a 20-minute long shot.

Speaker 7 It's far more improvised than the film was.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 7 Actually, we were put to our improvising tests on the series. But yes, no, we had obviously had, we could start again.
We had more takes.

Speaker 7 Minus the first 20-minute minute take but 20 minutes was light work for us after doing an hour and a half so we just washed that out in a studio as well and then also some parts on location is it back in the same no restaurant no no we are in a new restaurant called point north which specializes in northern cuisine but based in london okay

Speaker 1 okay so are you the same characters i am indeed we are indeed so you've all moved Has the events of the film started growing? No, no, no, this is the event. Have the events of the film happened?

Speaker 7 They have happened. So this, we pick up around six months after the final frame of the film, and everyone's moved on with their lives.
You know what happens?

Speaker 1 A lot of us are

Speaker 1 going, no, no, no, go on. Though there's a frame after, if it carries on the film, you see me running and beat him up

Speaker 1 on the floor. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're waiting for him to pass out. Yeah, and then he passed out.
What you don't see on the film is that he passes out from fear because he sees me.

Speaker 7 What you don't see is you just spike in the bag before he takes his last bit.

Speaker 7 Just like tiptoeing, like a Grinch

Speaker 1 yeah yeah I'm very excited about it so I'll be filming Great British Menu again then and Tom Kerridge is another judge and he absolutely loved the film lovely and I was like surely it can't be that stressful in kitchens tomb's like no me fucking bang on yeah

Speaker 7 it is like that yeah even just even just when we're doing the scenes of stressful you do get stressed as an actor those you have to go home and really shake it off like it's and it's relentless when you're because we filmed that for the the series was

Speaker 7 what three to four four months in that same kitchen and i when i first started i said to fill and everyone i was like i'm fucking gassed to do this because i'm always hungry on set i was like we're gonna actually have like decent food and that's when i found out that none of the food is edible that we cook nothing's edible oh why not well because you know you've got fish that's in a fridge for seven days that so long as until it the rule is until it's brown you you can continue using it but that doesn't mean that it's not fucking stinking

Speaker 7 so you're in there trying to film this all oh you can smell is rotten fish oh lovely

Speaker 7 so we all start with still a sparkling water yes i must say before we start this yeah i have put more thought into

Speaker 7 the restaurant itself

Speaker 7 than the the three courses of which i will eat okay okay but um i guess you can discover that as we go along We can.

Speaker 1 We can describe it now if you want. Is it up to you?

Speaker 7 Well, the restaurant is obviously a dream restaurant.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 so i can have anything and everything of which my heart desires yes cool so this restaurant is outdoors

Speaker 7 but it's like a conservatory like the biggest conservatory you've ever seen because it needs to be a multi-sensory experience yeah yeah so all senses are involved with this and all the animals and all the herbs and everything that you'd consume or just want to look at is around you do you know what i mean out the window obviously there's some people that have to censor that like you don't want to see a killing happening outside or a mating or a birth like there's some things that you maybe do you know what i mean like an angry monkey like running and banging on smashing the glass like it's peaceful yes does this mean you're going to eat monkey well no no this is an indiana jones but there's so there's just loads of animals so you like

Speaker 7 yeah it's just like it's like you're in the middle of nature because i imagine that this is like i don't know i get a very like final meal vibe but not like you're going into prison or you're on death row more like like don't look up vibes you know that scene at the end of don't look up when leonardo diCaprio's family is just like eating and like everything's shaking but they're just pretending like it's fine yeah I imagine it's like that yeah so this is the last meal for everyone interesting and we've all decided to just be like fuck it's the biggest cookup of our lives yeah and watch the comet descend upon this earth okay wow sort of

Speaker 7 apocalyptic yes is it bad okay yeah and i imagine that within the restaurant so you look out you look out of the windows all these massive windows the ceiling the side windows you've got like a huge waterfall that like runs into a beach and then you've also got like a massive jungle and a rainforest around you and maybe a desert at the back like this is a place in which we can have every season and every kind of worlds or country around us okay so you have everything which also inspires the menu have you ever been to cosmo no no

Speaker 7 it's tire it's an all you can eat

Speaker 7 restaurant where you take your plate up back and forth yeah and it's it's supposed to be like all around the world they have a cuisine from around the world i would like it that there's a door so you get up from your table and there's like a like a little like hobbit door like like a grotto and each one has a sign above it and it's a different country and when you walk through this door you enter a living room from a completely different country which is a family that have home cooked their traditional cuisine yeah right and everyone's got their own little trolley and with plates on it and you enter each door and it's a it's a 12 hour experience so each course is maybe breakfast lunch and dinner got you because you've got 12 hours until it's the end of the world so it's like it's a globe it's a global all-you-can-efficient

Speaker 7 all-you-can-eat buffet made by people from the country that you would like the cuisine all your mates are there it's just a stunning experience you can bring your dog if you want

Speaker 1 as the final point yeah it's really important that it's animal case this doesn't swing it for you you can bring your dog you can bring your dog i actually got like emotional thinking about this in the car

Speaker 1 here's the thing If it is end of the world, though, I would worry that the families who are cooking it are going to be affected by that. What do you mean? They know that they're all about to die.

Speaker 1 It's the end of the world. Okay, so maybe this is about to be snubbed out.
I don't know if I want someone making me food who has nothing matters in their head. Yes.

Speaker 7 So what if it's almost like a VR experience in the sense that my current time, this is happening, their current time, they're in my position.

Speaker 1 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 So it's not like the end of the world. Somebody is like giving you server.

Speaker 1 Because also I'd feel bad about going into people's homes to have food that they've cooked for me when really they should be spending their last moments on earth with their family.

Speaker 7 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So they're in a different time.

Speaker 7 They're in a different time. But they're present.

Speaker 1 They're present. Yeah.
You're in like Edward Norton's house in Glass Onion?

Speaker 7 Yeah, kind of, but not as bougie.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Do you know what I mean? Let's just keep it a bit chill.

Speaker 1 It's a massive conservatory.

Speaker 7 Massive conservatory, but just not too bougie. Maybe there's a few people.

Speaker 1 But then you also... So actually, I'm confused, actually.
So it's all glass, but you're going through the Hobbit doors, which are in the glass.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they just kind of appear.

Speaker 1 So you go through that, but then you're in like a non-glass.

Speaker 7 It brings you into totally different materials.

Speaker 1 So this magic

Speaker 1 portal.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there's magic involved in this. I think that's really important to note.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. Well, that sounds great.
I'd be really worried during this meal. Would you? Yeah, because there's a comet coming and I'm in a conservatory.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I think that's the last place I want to be.

Speaker 7 You don't want to see it?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I don't want the glass to shatter and I don't want to know I'm definitely going to die with loads of glass in my face how would you how would you want to spend your final moment realistically i guess just under the duvet yeah yeah with anyone with any yeah alone no no no no can't have anyone see me like that

Speaker 1 well that's realistic though you know you want to be under the duvet of a panic attack yes okay but i certainly wouldn't want to be near glass yeah but i just feel like it would happen so fast you wouldn't really feel the glass in you it would just one minute you're alive next minute all right you've sold it to me then i wouldn't feel the glass in me

Speaker 1 how would you want to spend it beating up stephen graham i'll probably hold stephen graham over my head aim him at the comet and go

Speaker 1 age before beauty graham

Speaker 1 and then let him get hit by the comet first or throw him into the comet yeah i'll throw him into the comet shatter the comet like armageddon save the world

Speaker 1 That's what that's what would happen.

Speaker 1 So I'll probably do that and then go through one of the hobbit doors and hide in case he survived it.

Speaker 7 For the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 That's a good question, though. Couldn't you go through one of the hobbit doors that are in a different time and hide out there as soon as you know the comet's coming?

Speaker 7 No, I think, I think we should, it should be the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want it to be the end.

Speaker 1 It's got a bit on that, yeah.

Speaker 7 Otherwise, then my brain's just going to let me have loads of leeways for the rest of the and you'll never be able to find the combinator.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the door. I really like the doors thing.

Speaker 7 The doors thing's really cute. And actually, if anything, that's the main thing that I'm excited about.

Speaker 1 I'm imagining it a bit like Monsters Inc. Yeah.
Oh. Where all the doors come down.
Yeah. That's the theory with Monsters Inc.
amongst hardcore Pixar fans. Oh, no.
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Is that the doors don't actually go just to the human world? They go back in time. They're time-travelling doors.
Wow, it's a bit of a star. And Monsters Inc.

Speaker 1 is happening in the future where monsters live on Earth and inhabit Earth. And humans are a thing of the past.
Gosh. So they're having to go back in time to harvest laughter and screams.

Speaker 1 why is that a theory because there's the theory that all of the pixar films exist in the same universe and are part of the same storyline and that boo from monsters ink is actually the witch in brave and uh and she's and she's she's traveling through time and that's why she's working in the workshop she's trying to make one at the door so she can go and find sully again one of the carvings in the witch's workshop in brave is of sully on a wooden board this supports this theory

Speaker 1 wow so that's the big that's yeah a lot of the pixar films are about

Speaker 1 energy crisis and

Speaker 1 climate crisis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 and emotions giving people power. See inside out, if you don't believe me.

Speaker 1 For example. Sorry, we should have let you know at the start.
James is a total fucking dweeb.

Speaker 1 Would a total fucking dweeb be able to throw Stephen Graham into a comet?

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I'm loving this restaurant. You're right.
I think you've put way more thought into the restaurant than anyone else we've had on. Easily.

Speaker 7 That will definitely come back to bite me, though, in the sense that everyone else has put a lot more work into what they will actually eat.

Speaker 1 I don't know, because

Speaker 1 you've got the globe to choose from.

Speaker 7 Well, this is true, yes.

Speaker 1 And you said it's going to be a 12-hour experience, three courses, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Speaker 7 It's worth mentioning there's sleeping pods as well. If you get a bit tired, because that's a lot of eating and drinking for 12 hours, you are going to need a nap.

Speaker 1 But are you really going to take a nap in the 12 hours before everyone dies?

Speaker 7 I mean, I'd be getting on it, obviously.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big turn.

Speaker 7 But some people, you know, the teetotal honeys. yeah they might need a nap

Speaker 1 a little snooze well the pods just say teetotal honeys on them yeah yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 1 teetotal honeys

Speaker 7 so still all the way i don't understand sparkling water yeah um but what's actually disturbed me more listening to your podcast is more than hearing the people that choose sparkling water is the people that don't drink water

Speaker 7 i need all of them to go to the hospital tomorrow and check their blood sugar levels and just their general insights How can you go without water?

Speaker 1 That's not who you'd think either. Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not the people you'd expect. No.
Jordan Banjo, professional dancer. Winkleman.
Claudia Winkleman looks like the epitome of health. Florence Pugh for a while.

Speaker 7 Florence Pugh absolutely threw me. I couldn't believe it when she said no water.

Speaker 7 I was like, what do you, I mean, listen, I guess it's not for everyone, but... It is and should be.

Speaker 1 Why design? It is for everyone.

Speaker 7 But still, because sparkling water, I just don't really

Speaker 7 understand.

Speaker 1 And I think that's a very acceptable answer.

Speaker 1 I do like the juxtaposition

Speaker 1 of you saying you want a massive conservatory with doors where you can go to anywhere in the world and it's the end of the world.

Speaker 1 And then I don't understand sparkling water. Yeah, I don't understand sparkling water.
It's too weird. It's too weird.
Yeah, it's just too weird for me.

Speaker 7 I can't figure out whether somebody really rich or really poor invented it.

Speaker 1 That's interesting. What do you mean? Sparkling water.

Speaker 7 Either somebody was just like, hmm, how can we make this? How can we make this more delicious?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 You know, and we'll just put bubbles in it. I can't figure out if someone was just making the most of what little they had or if someone was bored and was like, oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm like, if I, I mean, I'm sure there's an answer, we can Google it immediately, but I can't figure out which one I would lean towards.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say we can't Google was the person who invented sparkling water rich.

Speaker 1 I don't know who invented sparkling water.

Speaker 1 I've got no idea. And how old is it? Yeah.
Yeah. Was it invented before soft drinks? Like, you know, or did it come as an afterthought of, like, we could also make water fizzy? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 7 it can't have come out before orange juice, surely. Gas just squeezing it into it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Someone just sucked on that and went, tell you what, this is delicious.

Speaker 7 I don't care.

Speaker 1 That's going to be early. Orange juice is early.
OG drinks, still water. Yeah.
Orange juice has got to be pretty

Speaker 1 hot in its head.

Speaker 7 Any fruit, anything you can just pick off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hot in his tails, I said. Hot in its heels, isn't it? Yeah.
Is the phrase.

Speaker 1 water then all juices yeah and then I guess Fizz gets involved wine's very early yeah but I guess that's old juice really isn't it yeah as I'm constantly told by my wife it'd be early but I guess not it's just old juice why is this in the house it's old juice she's weird she's a weird person

Speaker 1 doesn't even get under the covers with him when the comet's coming

Speaker 1 but surely wine comes after you know you'd have all the juices but they had to wait for wine a bit longer so even if they were juicing the grapes early doors they'd have to wait longer for it to turn into wine

Speaker 1 and are you going to a particular door nation scotland if you haven't through the door to scotland so

Speaker 1 in tail and spring straight from the waterfall straight from the glens have you ever had it straight from the waterfall of course you have yes right of passage right of passage have to do it

Speaker 7 just cut your hands and just chuck it down your throat yeah yeah when did you go and do that oh god i do it these i was when was i last in scotland uh june I went to De Lavik, which is just south of Obin, went during a heat wave, stunning, took my dog and my best mate.

Speaker 7 We did a Monroe, and then we just drank from the stream, dog and all.

Speaker 1 It was beautiful. Yeah.
You're trying to drink upstream from the dog, I'd imagine.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's very good, yeah.

Speaker 7 But also Scottish tap water. That stuff is elite.
I would drink Scottish tap water over any bottled water.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you'd have to.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and then you drink the tap water down here and almost had a heart attack.

Speaker 1 Couldn't believe it. Yeah, it's completely fair.
I mean, the further north of Great Britain you get, the nicer the water is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just well, I grew up on London water, so I'm used to it, you know. Yeah, I think I've said it before on the pod.
I think some northern water too soft for me. Really? At least for a shower.

Speaker 1 But look at his hair.

Speaker 7 Well, I was going to say, it's a good head of hair.

Speaker 1 Yes, good head of hair.

Speaker 7 If you go up north, does it start to fall out?

Speaker 1 It fluffs.

Speaker 7 Oh, does it? Big time.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
It looks big time. It looks nice for once.
What do you mean for once? You've got horrible hair.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're a bit jealous. It's horrible.
You've got lovely hair, James. You've got a big head of hair, but it's like a big matted clump.

Speaker 1 Awful. Thank you.
Really grimy. Yeah, London water.
But if you go up north, it'd be much nicer. No, no.
Get a little bit of body to it. Don't like it.
Be nice and clean for once.

Speaker 1 But it's just like held together by old jam.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Pop bombs or bread.
Pop bombs or bread. It's like a horrible bread.
Pop bums hot bread. Bread, spread.

Speaker 7 We're going through the Irish door and we're going to have some soda bread.

Speaker 1 Scotland to Ireland. Yeah, really, really exploiting the old magical travelling door system at the moment.
Yeah. You could probably do it in a flight.
A lot of these. Flight, you just hop on a boat

Speaker 1 or a train or a horse. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes. Soda bread, yes.

Speaker 7 Soda bread, because I was tempted to go sourdough bread. Soda bread's better.
If you have soda bread in Ireland, stunning. Good butter.

Speaker 1 Irish butter as well. Irish butter, yeah.
You don't need to go through another door for the butter. No.

Speaker 7 Also, don't ask me the brand of Irish butter because I don't know.

Speaker 1 Kerry Gold. We'll give you Kerry Gold.
Right, that's what I'm doing. We're giving you Kerry Gold.

Speaker 7 Okay, nice. So you guys are both, you're doing a little stint in the Irish.
If I walk through the doors, it's you two there to see if you want.

Speaker 1 We can be in every single one as different characters with different accents. I think it should be the genie.

Speaker 7 Love that.

Speaker 1 I think it should be the genie. dressed in the different national dress every time you go through the door.
Yeah, absolutely happy to do that.

Speaker 1 And I'm saying that, not knowing where you're going for the the next courses.

Speaker 1 I don't have to do any of this. We're on safe ground so far.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we're there.

Speaker 1 I bought a kilt. Yeah.
And I don't know. Oh no.
Don't know enough about it. Dado Dockett he wears a cap.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Facebook cap. Facebook cap.
Facebook cap and a little piano. It's like, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 1 Delicious. Soda bread doesn't come up enough on this podcast.
You do. I absolutely love it every time.

Speaker 7 Do most people say sourdough?

Speaker 1 Sourdough comes up a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some people just say nice bread you know like nice bread baguette french baguette comes up a lot oh to be fair french baguette from from france in france you've ran to the shop picked that up yeah bit ham bit of locally sourced brie flap it on that's that's delicious do you want to ask the baguette question yeah yeah if you're uh in france in paris and you're going to a bakery and you've got yourself a warm baguette and you're walking back to the airbnb let's say that you're staying at uh on the way back there do you uh bite the top of the baguette on the way back or do you wait until you get home yeah I could never wait.

Speaker 7 I'm gluttonous.

Speaker 1 Respect. Yeah.
That's the new psychopath test.

Speaker 7 It's just awesome.

Speaker 1 People who don't bite the end of the baguette need to be in prison.

Speaker 7 I really struggle to not eat half of my dish before I've taken it from the kitchen to wherever I'm eating it.

Speaker 1 It's a real battle.

Speaker 7 The same if I've just opened the door to the deliverer guy and I'm there like feebly trying to open it up the bag.

Speaker 1 It's a horrible, horrible sight. Yeah.
Before they've even gone away. I just have no self-control.
Because they ask for a code now. Yeah.
Just like you're like mouth full trying to give them the code.

Speaker 1 Yep. No, it's always the same code.

Speaker 7 It is the same chords. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I didn't know for ages.

Speaker 1 Not for everyone. Is it not? Well,

Speaker 1 as in not everyone doesn't have the same code. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Yeah, shot yes. Otherwise,

Speaker 1 I'd run around London interrupting deliveroo men to save.

Speaker 1 Just grabbing the food.

Speaker 1 I've got a different code because basically

Speaker 1 I went in a strop one night. So I cancelled, I just deleted my deliveroo account.
Why would you do that? Because I was in a strop with them. You knew you were going to have to read it.
Yeah, yeah. But

Speaker 1 I couldn't see past it.

Speaker 1 I was just like, oh, fuck these guys. And then the next day I was like setting up a new account.
So I've got a different number now.

Speaker 1 But that old account, my number that I used to get was 69 all the time. Oh, you know.
So I'm really gutted that I've said goodbye to that now. Oh, I hope they don't retire the number.

Speaker 1 I hope they give it to someone. I hope someone else.
Someone will have got it.

Speaker 1 How many times when Deliveroo brought you your meal and you said 69 did the driver say nice? Every single time. And then we'd do a 69.

Speaker 1 You said the lucky number.

Speaker 1 We'd have to do it.

Speaker 1 Do you keep the cube on? Yeah, hopefully.

Speaker 1 I'll see a different number then, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, keep the cube on. Sorry, Azuka.

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Speaker 1 Where are we going for the starter? Your dream starter?

Speaker 7 Starter. I think probably Italy.

Speaker 1 Ah, I'm alright, dressing like an Italian person. What are you wearing?

Speaker 7 Yeah, what are you, Baiden?

Speaker 1 You should decide, really.

Speaker 7 No, you decide.

Speaker 7 This is your

Speaker 7 added thing to the Dream Conservatory.

Speaker 1 This is just like the Dalmio puppets? Yeah, okay. They're pop in pop culture.

Speaker 7 That's also a nice, I guess.

Speaker 1 It's just like shit. It's a friendly thing to see.
Yeah. People like the Dalmio puppets.
I'm scared of the Dalmio puppets. What? They're terrifying.

Speaker 7 They're interesting. Is it not because you've got the grand?

Speaker 7 And then

Speaker 1 I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 7 Is it like her family?

Speaker 1 I think she's the matriarch. Yeah, she's the matriarch of the family.

Speaker 1 Which one are you? I'll be, I guess, the main dad who's always coming in.

Speaker 7 It's a Domio duck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, who says that?

Speaker 7 I'll be that guy. But you're life-sized and you're a puppet, or you're just dressed in what the puppet is usually dressed in.

Speaker 1 Up to you. Like,

Speaker 1 I can be a Dalmio puppet version of myself, so a new Dalmio puppet, but it's me. I'm just trying to think how skinny that would be.
Yeah. Like, IRL.

Speaker 7 It might be funny to think of now, and the whole situation is absurd that I've created. However, that might just be a step too far.

Speaker 1 A life-sized Dalmio puppet who can walk and talk is like a nightmare. Yeah, that's horrific.
That's like

Speaker 1 paralysis. Goes to Christmas present.
Yeah. In Christmas Carol.
Yeah. I mean, I guess I could be with the Dalmio puppets, but like, you know, Michael Kane in Christmas Carol.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's like me and them. Yeah.
Yeah. And I look, I live with them and I'm accepted as just a character and I accept them for what they are.
Yeah. Like he does with

Speaker 1 everyone. Even though I'm massive.
Like Will Ferrell and Elf. Like Will Feralyn Elf and I've been raised by them, I guess.
I've been raised by Dalmio puppets. So I don't know the difference.

Speaker 1 No one's told me yet that I'm not one of them. Okay, sweet.

Speaker 7 So we won't disrupt that either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. We'll just come up with that.

Speaker 1 there's a you know opportunity for a feature film i guess very much so i go find my family and kettering and i have to they could be like you are not a dolmeo puppet and talk to me like that he thinks he's a dolmio yeah you sit down to dinner and kettering and say it's dolmeo day yeah it's not dolmeo day yeah every day you say it's dolmeo day i still make them spaghetti for breakfast and send them off to yeah yeah that works perfectly yeah so that still fits in if anything my own real-life family would be delighted if i put pop-tarts and sugar in all of those and maple syrup all over that my dad would be delighted Yeah, James's dad eats like Buddy the Elf.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is like the Elf.

Speaker 1 Okay. He might be my dad.

Speaker 1 That could be the next elf.

Speaker 1 Really? The next Elf sequel is that Buddy's got a kid he doesn't know about. It turns up and it's me.

Speaker 1 And he's my dad.

Speaker 1 What about him?

Speaker 7 It's like Buddy the Elf?

Speaker 1 He just eats like him. He just said that's what he would eat like.
He's eat candy and sweets all the time and put maple syrup and everything

Speaker 1 if he could. Absolutely love it.
He only eats other stuff to be polite because he has to blend it with society. Bless him.

Speaker 7 yeah i am partial to a sweet to be fair yeah well i'm looking at sweets that's great that's great so we're in italy yeah that's sorry james is with his dolmeo family what what have they cooked you up for your starter they have cooked us up oh you just can't go wrong with some good bruschetta it's it's a very boring choice but it just hits it hits because you get the freshness of the tomatoes and the basil you've got the bread more bread i know that we had soda bread but i imagine that our stomachs can hold everything and anything for this bruschetta followed by a phenomenal pasta dish I want to say it's got like a thick red rich sauce chorizo yes can't go wrong with chorizo in the pasta my god of course yep the pasta is cooked within the sauce of course and then i guess secret ingredients that i do not know but the family who are cooking it may do yeah they'd know

Speaker 1 domio's dadna

Speaker 7 now now i can't have i couldn't i couldn't have my last meal with domio no offense to the domio family well that makes an awkward conversation, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I realise.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's going to be an issue.

Speaker 1 Because you make him think, even if you don't say that to them, if you just say it to James and have him pass a message on you, you're creating an awkward family situation for James.

Speaker 7 I feel like I've hoped that James just would know not to conversate or ask that of the puppets and just go ahead and take the initiative and just switch out Domeo for like a plain posata.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'll do it because it's your dream meal, but like it's not going to be a great day for me. I know, but also don't.
It's the last day on earth. Yeah, but not for you, for me.

Speaker 7 Remember this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, i mean all the different time periods there's different characters yeah it's just another day at work for you yeah yeah big question for the genie though bruschetta and pasta yeah have it with both as a starter well listen in the past just joseph quinn came on the podcast and he was the first person to use the cheat of adding a pasta course before the main course in between the starter and the main so i would allow you to use that loophole that he found of doing the bruschetta as your starter brilliant and then having a pasta course of this trizo tomato pasta as your pasta course and then we have the main i think that's we've let people do that before okay brilliant and i and i it's one of my favorite loopholes yeah it's a great loophole you could almost get the brochetta from the dolmio people and then hop in the the next door which is a different region of italy yes and it's like real people from italy very good or tucci's house very good the touch you go to see stampy tucci oh man he can cook yeah yeah

Speaker 1 so there you go that escapes any awkward conversations with the puppets okay brilliant well yeah yeah yeah yeah great but would i'll be with the touch as well yeah i mean that would be a joy because also fantastic conversation yeah yeah i mean the conversation would have to start with me my mind and him who i am but like yeah

Speaker 1 that's fine can i be there for that bit as well of course you can thanks yeah yeah

Speaker 1 So your main course, are we staying in Italy?

Speaker 7 No, main course,

Speaker 7 we're going to pop across to Africa.

Speaker 7 I am half Nigerian. Yeah.
And recently I've been eating a lot of Nigerian food. It's not something that I ate like growing up at all.
And I kind of got that hunger for it recently.

Speaker 7 So that's very much required by my taste palates constantly. So I would go with jaloff rice, Nigerian jalof, obviously.

Speaker 7 I would go for some Asang goat meat, which is incredibly spicy. I love spice.
Amazing. We're talking Scotch bonnet times four.

Speaker 7 We'd want some porridge yam on the side for me, a bit of puff puff to souk up the extra gravy and some plantain. That would be my choice.

Speaker 7 But I would also get off on the fact that my friends would be going to different doors and coming out and be like, oh, wow, look at all the different cuisines that we've got.

Speaker 7 Geez a bit of that, geez a bit of that. Or a real picker, me.
That's why tapas is a great thing. Yeah.
I like to kind of just have everything.

Speaker 1 Now, I want to drill down more into the different parts of that meal. I'm going to hear all about them.
But first off, we've just got to cover off. What's James wearing?

Speaker 1 I'll hop in this when it happens.

Speaker 1 What's the genie wearing when you go through the Nigerian door? okay he's trying to stitch me up

Speaker 7 we are gonna have some traditional wear okay yeah i actually don't know the names of it like the names of the pieces of material but what i do know is that there's kind of like a long coat yeah sort of thing which you'll be wearing the trousers and then you've got some kind of hat on very vibrant colorful colours great but next time you have somebody who is half nigerian or full nigerian on this podcast make sure that they're able to just kind of get the finer details for you and get that specific names Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we've got the Jolloff. Yep.
You know, I think the Jolloff wars are over on this podcast. There's been a lot of battles.

Speaker 7 Has though? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the more we ask people about it now, the more they're like, look, man, everyone could just enjoy their own Jolloff. Why are you trying to turn us against each other?

Speaker 1 And then we feel really bad.

Speaker 1 It used to just be that, like, they'd bring it up themselves.

Speaker 1 The guests would be like, this is the best Jolloff. Anyone else can shut up? And then we were like, oh, so this is a thing.
Cool. But then we try and fan the flames.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then it takes on a bit of a different tone.

Speaker 1 Doesn't Doesn't quite have the same effect.

Speaker 1 Look, Jollof, amazing. Planting to talk about a lot as well.
So delicious. Yeah.
What was the goat's meat like?

Speaker 7 So it's in this like Assam pepper sauce. It's basically just got like onions and it's cooked, I think, for a couple of days.

Speaker 7 in this incredibly spicy sauce but it's just like you know sometimes when you get those meals you try those dishes and it's like you're then addicted to it for the rest of your life or what feels like it will be i can't it's just a specific taste that i constantly need every second of the day.

Speaker 7 So all I can describe it as is this very spicy, flavorful goat situation.

Speaker 1 The goat situation. The goat situation.
Is it the goat of food?

Speaker 7 It's the goat. It's the goat of Nigerian food for me.
Yeah. Whenever I have something, I always want that to accompany it.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 Whenever I have any other jaloff, the porridge, yam, puff puff, whatever, I want that meat. I want that spice.

Speaker 1 I love goat. I don't, I mean, you know, I barely find it anywhere, but when I do it straight in.

Speaker 7 Is it on a menu or like to find it to cook?

Speaker 1 No, on a menu. I'm sure I could find it to cook.

Speaker 7 You'd have to go to specific places.

Speaker 7 Like I was looking because I started cooking it, cooking Nigerian food last week, but to get a lot of the ingredients, I'm going to have to go to like, you know, West African supermarkets.

Speaker 7 But it's the same if you cook any cuisine that isn't British.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But goat, goat was great. Even Caribbean curry goat.
Yeah. Oh, it's just got, my friend asked me the other day, she was like, what is the difference between like goat and beef? What?

Speaker 7 Because she doesn't eat meat anymore.

Speaker 7 She's been vegan for a long time and I was like for me It just feels like goat is the meat that you its baseline flavor You're able to paint over it really well whilst like chicken and beef and other kind of meats fish They're also strong in their natural flavor But with goat for some reason It's more tender and you're able to give it more flavor.

Speaker 1 I always find it does have a distinctive taste though as well, right? So it's slightly slightly gamier like what does gamier mean?

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 caught out there using words you don't even fucking know. Well, I do know.

Speaker 1 know i do know but it's very difficult to describe a taste it's like someone asking what do you mean by salty like it's it is what it is like okay

Speaker 1 you will have tasted it but you've not associated it with that word i guess but yeah it's it's slightly earthier maybe oh yeah it's delicious we had a goat the other day did you i don't talk about that why why nish ruined it for me today why nish ruined that for me this morning what did you say I had a goat named after me and Ketrin.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. At a theme park.
They got loads of goats. So they named one James A.
Caster.

Speaker 1 And then my mum went with my nephew yesterday to see the goats. And James A.
Caster wasn't there anymore. And they said he had been moved to a field to be a companion for a horse.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I told Nish this this morning because I thought... He fell for it.
I thought, what a sweet story. And Nish went, that goat's dead.
And we ate it the other day at the restaurant.

Speaker 1 And I was like, we did not eat that goat. And he was like, yeah, yeah, we ate James A.
Caster, the goat, and you ate it. And you loved it.

Speaker 1 And it really ruined that meal for me well we there were goat belly samosas at brigadiers they were absolutely amazing wow um and goat shoulder we had goat shoulder

Speaker 1 but it wasn't james a castle the goat he is a companion for a horse in the field right now you've fallen for it that's like gone to live on a farm but they can't say that because it's already on a farm so that's the next excuse up they did not eat james a castle the goat they can't name it after

Speaker 1 after local celebrities

Speaker 1 it was not eating it it's a companion for a horse it's not a companion for a horse. That doesn't happen.
It's not a Pixar film. That's lovely.

Speaker 1 There are loads of videos on the internet of like unlikely animal friendships.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but that's because they all live on the farm already.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, this one's moving.
You know, donkeys and dogs, horses and dogs, cats and dogs. Yeah, I think it's I believe it's a companion for us.
We did not eat it.

Speaker 1 No one's eating it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Someone's eating that horse. The horse? Yeah.
Someone ate the horse. Yeah, the goat had to watch and then they killed the goat.
What the fuck? This guy.

Speaker 7 I struggled to eat horse.

Speaker 1 That doesn't pop up that often though, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, not really it depends where you are i guess france yeah yeah france mainly france yeah you're not gonna go through that french door and have a bit of horse i don't think so no um no horse no frogs legs no snails please i'm happy with that yeah yeah i can't do a french accent

Speaker 7 although we do like because french is the accent and the language have to speak in boiling point So that's that's one. I had some French food and I was there and I was like, okay, interesting.

Speaker 1 Very garlicky. Yeah.
And I love garlic. Love garlic.

Speaker 7 But yeah no it's full on yeah but the baguette situation is nice there you know wake up in the morning go get your loaf or what would you call it stick yeah stick a baguette your ham your brie your butter oh stunning how long were you there for i was only in paris for two days because i went over to meet a woman who was helping me with the language for the series because did you have to go out and about and like speak in public in like french i did a bit of it yeah yeah and she was she very kindly helped me for about two hours every day for about six months.

Speaker 7 Because when you don't speak that language and then suddenly you're thrown into a set where you have to improvise in a language that you don't speak, that's a very different kind of thing.

Speaker 1 So it must be was a thing where like, you know, you do the film, you finish the film, you think, but that's that character gone, never had to think about that again.

Speaker 7 Fully, completely, utterly, yes, especially with this one. So when Phil called up and went, guess what? We're making it into a series.
My life flashed before my eyes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, I really, really need to learn this.

Speaker 1 But initial feelings of happiness and joy, I don't know. Absolutely, yeah.
Immediately followed by, oh, God. Yeah, dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 What country are you going to for your side dish? Now, obviously, we've got sides on the Nigerian. To be fair, there's a lot of sides on that place.

Speaker 1 But if you want something extra, if you want to use one of those other doors, it's the last day on Earth. So maybe.

Speaker 7 I mean, I think if anything, I'd probably just be wanting to pick at what my other friends have got.

Speaker 1 Who are the friends, first of all?

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 7 I've definitely got my best mate, Sienna, with me. Yeah.
She's vegan, mean cook, really good. I've got my other best mate, Renee.

Speaker 7 I got my sister.

Speaker 1 Quick question.

Speaker 1 How does Renee feel about having the title of a best mate?

Speaker 7 Very good, because Sienna's on my mind because I was speaking to her last night.

Speaker 7 Yeah, she'll probably punch me in the face after this, but I'll tell her not to listen, so it should be fine.

Speaker 1 Good. Yeah, I'm sure she won't suspect it.
Don't fall for that. Don't listen to that one.
Don't listen to that one. No reason.

Speaker 7 Don't listen to this one, babe. Yeah, no, there'll be an accumulation of people that make me laugh a lot.

Speaker 1 Any of the other

Speaker 1 the wives of Henry VIII? Any of the sixth cast going to move it?

Speaker 7 Any of the sixth cast. Renee is in this original sixth cast with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Exciting.

Speaker 7 She's Catherine Rabanigan. Perfect.

Speaker 1 And she goes back in time to Henry VIII' time to eat her. She's punched me in the throat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's a violent person. She'd punch me in the throat.
Renee's always punching her. Oh, she's a scream a minute.
She's a great crack. Yeah, yeah.
Great crack.

Speaker 1 Is that where you met?

Speaker 1 yeah that's where we met she didn't like me actually when we did that really yeah she thought it was a bit of a twat i think interesting then she obviously fell in love with me and rest is history

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 7 the fans of six yes musical are like wild committed right yeah that's all i've heard about the that there's like people who come multiple times and sit on the front row and like yeah yeah yeah i've heard that it's it's pretty mad because i never did it on west end so we helped uh workshop it, get it on stage, did West End for a few days, and then the other girls took over and cracked on.

Speaker 7 But obviously I was like, I'll do the soundtrack.

Speaker 7 But the fans, the fans are, they're pretty mad. They love it.
They really love it.

Speaker 1 It's almost like, because it's like a pop concert thing.

Speaker 1 It's garnered the fans of like a pop band, basically.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, very much so. The girls all have individual fallings.
The characters do in many ways, but it's intense.

Speaker 7 like you do other shows or be on tour with something and fans of that would turn up and just want to talk about that but yeah other other friends i think would be able to other girls that are in it that are that engage more with it would be able to answer about the the madness of it all but i just kind of you got out

Speaker 1 early bro yeah would you not want to use these time traveling doors to go back and meet the original that would be pretty cool i think i'd want to maybe meet boleyn she sounded like a scream it's a laugh yeah so which way which which which one are you?

Speaker 7 I'm Catherine Parr.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 she was it. Survived.
Yeah. She might be still knocking him out, actually.

Speaker 1 Worth a check. You might not even need a time travelling door.
So as far as I'm aware, that rhyme's not been updated.

Speaker 1 She surely did die. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a really good point. But apparently not.
They're lying to kids. Yeah, survived.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 What is wrong? How old is she?

Speaker 1 How does it go? Divorce, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived. It should be divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded.
Eventually died. Eventually died.
Yeah, he's dead now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she didn't die while married to him, but she is dead. Yeah, she has to be.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe not. So your side dish, you're just picking up what your friends have got.
I'm picking at whatever my friends have got.

Speaker 1 What are Renee and Sienna likely to get from the different doors that you're going to be picking at?

Speaker 7 I feel like Sienna has gone to some like agricultural farm and everything is just made from herbs.

Speaker 1 There's lots of condiments and all sorts.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was probably my side salad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, nice.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Sienna will provide my side salad. Renee loves Korean food and Japanese, so she's probably gone to the Japanese store and got some incredible sushi.
So I'd probably steal a bit of that. Nice.

Speaker 7 Not sashimi, though. It would have to be maybe like a bit of prontempur or an avocado.

Speaker 1 Don't like raw fish? I can do it, but I'd rather not.

Speaker 7 And if it's my last day, I'm just going to eat how I want, I think.

Speaker 1 Fair enough. It sounds like the set of boiling point would put you off fish for life.
Yeah. It stinks that bad.
Yeah, fucking hell. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 probably wouldn't ever want that sushi again huh oh jesus those smells and then you've got like the mix of incense that's creating a smoky well they put incense there as well yeah for the restaurant or just like well it just helps try and diffuse the smell of the on camera so you can see the smoke oh okay oh what they use incense for that as well as other stuff yeah as well as us cooking yeah yeah yeah incense mixed with bad fish smell is one of the worst things you could ever think about yeah because anytime there's like a terrible smell and you try and cover it up with like something that's supposed to smell nice, all it does is ruins the other smell for you.

Speaker 1 When I was in New Zealand once, I had some chicken in the fridge and I left it there for too long and it was like, I should have known, I pulled it out of the fridge and it was like bulging. Yeah.

Speaker 7 The personification of salmonella.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I popped it. I popped the top of the packet.
Of course, yeah. Why not?

Speaker 1 Absolute stink bottom. And

Speaker 1 I had some CK1 with me. I used to wear CK1 and I sprayed it in the air to try and get rid of the smell, but I can't wear CK1 anymore.
Anytime I smell CK1, I think...

Speaker 1 Was your wife with you at the time? No, no, no, just me. Just me in the house.

Speaker 1 Just me there. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Awful. CK-1.
Instantly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sprays cologne on his chicken. I didn't put it on the chicken.
It doesn't work. Sprayed it in the air, and that ruined CK-1 for me because now it makes me think of off-chicken.

Speaker 1 I thought a new podcast was called Off-Chicken.

Speaker 1 Don't have an egg. Yeah, I can understand why you wouldn't want more fish.

Speaker 1 And now you don't want raw chicken anymore after that story.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but do you ever want raw chicken?

Speaker 1 Some Marys of Japan, they eat chicken sashimi. Really? Yeah.
Raw chicken.

Speaker 1 I think the dissonance there of eating raw chicken, I think even if I know it's perfect, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd be in my own head.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like you're improvising. Like I'm improvising too much.
Yeah. Yeah.
I wouldn't be able to do anything. Yeah.
Man,

Speaker 1 so bad at improv on camera.

Speaker 1 So bad. And everyone expects you to be good because you're a comedian as well.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You didn't get to do much on that film though, did you? Yeah. Did you? Occasionally.
Yeah. I've only been on two film sets.

Speaker 1 what film go on i mean you're familiar with uh amazon prime's cinderella

Speaker 1 is is

Speaker 1 is ben billie smith in there yes yes is a town cry

Speaker 7 no i can i can't i can't say that i am i've not watched it but i i think We're obviously talking about the same thing, so yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm one of the footmen in that. Who turns into a mouse? Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Was it fun? Sorry, I'm a mouse and turn into a footman, and then I go back into a mouse again. This is why he's bad at improv.
Oh, god,

Speaker 1 yeah, Jesus Christ. Yeah, when he was a mouse, he was going, I used to be a man.
They go, No, you're a mouse. You started off as a mouse, that's the whole point.
Cinderella,

Speaker 7 and it was terrifying, or you enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 I did two days on it, I had to replace someone last minute, so it was very low pressure. Did you know that before you came in? Yeah,

Speaker 1 the character name was still named after the person who was.

Speaker 7 Their headshot was up on the wall when you were in there.

Speaker 1 They did his hair like the other guy. Yeah, they did.
Yeah, yeah. They still had that.
They hadn't even had time to change that kind of thing. So it was like, there's your hair.

Speaker 1 You look like John Mulaney now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I definitely think there was a few takes where they were like, no, just stay wherever you like.

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 1 hello, Cinderella.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, not bad.

Speaker 1 James, you're halfway through a conversation right now. You can't say hello, Cinderella.

Speaker 7 And what's the other thing?

Speaker 1 The new Ghostbusters film. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 That's not out yet. That's not out yet.
So we'll see how much improv makes it into that. How was that?

Speaker 7 It was a good fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I loved it. I loved it.
But, like, yeah, every time

Speaker 1 I had to plan my improv on the way to set.

Speaker 1 Why? Because I knew that I was going to freeze up and mess it up otherwise. So I'm just thinking the car.
Hello, Bill Murray.

Speaker 1 What's my scene today? Okay.

Speaker 1 Think of a bunch of things you could say that would be funny. It's often wrong with a bit of preparation.

Speaker 1 I'm new to it. I'm new to it.

Speaker 1 I'm having to keep up with the best of them. I wouldn't be able to do Boiling Point, man.
I think you'd feel out of place in that anyway. Genie Waiter popping up in Boiling Point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, let's face it, I wouldn't be able to hold myself back from whooping someone's ass.

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Speaker 1 dream drink i guess dream drink where you going what door i mean red wine is the love oh so many doors to choose from so we are going

Speaker 7 well do you go france do you go argentina do you you go South Africa?

Speaker 1 You could go back to Italy.

Speaker 7 Italy, exactly.

Speaker 1 Lebanon. Oh, yeah, you could.
It's good and good. Good Lebanese red wine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nice stuff.

Speaker 7 I do love a capsav. I do love a Rioca, a Shiraz, and I just don't know.
Would you know the best place to go?

Speaker 1 Capsav is difficult because it's the most widely grown grape in the world. Most popular.

Speaker 1 This is a good place to be. Obviously, you're a little bit of a fancy.

Speaker 1 Your classic Cabernet cabernet sauvignon you are going to france probably bordeaux left bank um but then some brilliant californian cab save as well uh-huh and then south america you can get some pretty hefty ones there yeah it depends how do you want like a really heavy i think let's go full body full body but maybe so let's let's let's save the rocker for the second glass okay and have a medium body for the first glass what would you recommend are you or are you going cabs you want to go cab save cab save for the first glass reoccur for the second well reoccurring i guess spain okay you've got to go to spain right cab save

Speaker 1 dressed as a matador in spain please yes yes why not california why not get a glass of california and cab sav okay fine james i guess i'll be dressed like california man yeah yeah in the film california man brennan fraser isn't he a caveman yes but so you want to be dressed as a caveman they find him in california they dress him up in clothes that yeah they've got lining up like a surfer so

Speaker 1 surfer dude okay and that's how you're going to be dressed as surfer dude yeah in california okay i can't wait for the messages from wine people saying i got all that wrong by the way yeah yeah that see how i let you do that yeah yeah

Speaker 7 well listen the nigerian people are already coming for me for the fact they didn't know the name of the traditional clothing so i think i've got out this episode scot-free yeah you have

Speaker 1 i'm absolutely fine yeah you're around mate

Speaker 7 two glasses two glasses well two but those are the two bottles that will be on the table and i'll be alternating between them yeah yeah i mean listen i i don't want i don't want to to fuck with my palate too much, but I've got a sweet tooth.

Speaker 7 So a strawberry daiquiri is sometimes nice.

Speaker 1 But maybe there's a bridging drink between the main course and the dessert.

Speaker 7 Yes, or it's the first thing I'll have before I eat anything.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 1 So I don't want to fuck with my palate too much. I'm starting with the strawberry daiquiri.
Is that when you're still in the conservatory?

Speaker 7 Yeah, we're always in the conservatory.

Speaker 1 So you're going back and forth. You're going into the doors and then you come in and have a nice chat.
Thank you very much. Put it back in the trolley and then go back to your channel.

Speaker 1 It's It's a buffet. It's a brand new strawberry trolley.
Yeah, it's a buffet. It's a buffet.
Where are you getting the strawberry daiquiri from, door-wise?

Speaker 7 Do you know what? I had a really good one in a place called Enish, which is an Nigerian restaurant in London. They do one, and it's like just a glass of sugary goodness.

Speaker 7 They've even got one of those fizzy strawberry laces, I presume, from the Sainsbury's next door. Put a cocktail stick in it and put it on the top.
Wow.

Speaker 7 I mean, when they brought it over to me, I almost cried. Great.

Speaker 1 Starling. This place has been recommended so many times.

Speaker 7 Oh, you need to go. You need to go.
It's good, man. And good, Jolof Rice.

Speaker 7 Everything I just said for my main course, I would get as a meal situation at Inish.

Speaker 1 Nice. Gotta go.
Gotta go. Yeah, you gotta go.
Now you've heard about the strawberry daiquiri with the strawberry lace in it. Yeah, that shouldn't have been the thing that tips me over.

Speaker 1 What do they do? Strawberry laces from Saints Foods?

Speaker 1 I'm going straight there.

Speaker 1 I was in Scotland recently. Oh, yeah.
Where were you? Glasgow. Lovely.
And every time I'm in Scotland, I always want to get Iron Brew, but I get Iron Brew extra, which is a sugar-free one.

Speaker 1 And I feel very self-conscious when I'm buying it in public because I think, surely, this is frowned upon. Is it?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. You think so?

Speaker 1 If I buy it, everyone's looking at me like that. It's not real.
But if there was no demand for it in Scotland, then they wouldn't sell it, right? I would get that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 My sister would get that. I wouldn't, unless something's gone terribly wrong, you know, or I'm

Speaker 1 yeah, your brand. Great.

Speaker 1 Dream dessert.

Speaker 7 Dream dessert.

Speaker 7 I think that I'm going to go through the door to USA and it's just going to be a giant pick and mix.

Speaker 1 USA pick and mix. Yeah.
Why USA pick a mix?

Speaker 7 Because I feel like they have like the sort of candy that would be illegal everywhere else. Do you know what I mean? That would probably like burst your veins upon entering your digestive system.

Speaker 1 Anywhere particular in the US?

Speaker 7 I've actually never been to the United States, so I don't know. I've just like had candy that's come over here.
So I don't know like which ones are reserved for which states.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're wearing a Biggie t-shirt. Do you want to go to New York in the 90s? Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah. And you can meet people like Biggie.

Speaker 7 That would be pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 1 Maybe do a pick and mix of Biggie. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm up for that. Yeah.
Absolutely. Whilst he's rapping in my ear.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's cool. If there's a pick and mix, he's not rapping.

Speaker 1 He's focused on the pick and mix, is me?

Speaker 1 He's the last guy I want to go to a pick and mix with.

Speaker 7 Because

Speaker 7 none of the things you like.

Speaker 1 He's ramming me out of the way. Yeah, yeah.
He's got his hand stuck in one of the boxes.

Speaker 7 You just go, you go to the opposite side of him.

Speaker 1 That's what he was notorious for.

Speaker 1 Eating pick a mix. The notorious PIC.

Speaker 7 Oh, my days.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. I've got to laugh about that pick a mix.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So what kind of things are you thinking about having in there?

Speaker 7 Anything with like...

Speaker 7 sour sugary flakes on the outside pencils you know those like pencil things you bite into, probably about that long.

Speaker 7 Yeah, wheels, like the sugary wheels that you could put over, anything sour and gummy. Yeah, I am not a chocolate cake pastry biscuit fan.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh, okay. So I'm like really gummy, all that, all that worky.

Speaker 7 And if that's how I'm gonna go out, big strawberries.

Speaker 1 Oh, giant strawberries,

Speaker 7 but also the wee squishy ones you can get as well. Maybe like wash it all down with a fan of fruit twist.

Speaker 1 This is what's gonna be my death.

Speaker 1 I was thinking when you were saying that, I was like, wait minute,

Speaker 1 down to down to like the fact I've spoken about it on the podcast before, but I opened a,

Speaker 1 there was like a charity shop in Ketwin that opened that I cut the ribbon for, but they had a little tuck shop at the back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, a tuck.

Speaker 7 Even just the scent, like the phrase tuck shop makes me emotional. Yeah, I used to just live for that.
We had something called a paper shop Sunday when I was little.

Speaker 7 And I would just like close my eyes and just wait for Sunday every day. Run, fucking leg it to the paper shop and then choose my two sweets of choice.

Speaker 7 You wonder why I had about eight fill-ins before the age of 14. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you said Sunday, I was imagining you buying loads of stuff from the paper shop and then making a Sunday out of it. I bought paper shop Sunday.

Speaker 7 Because obviously, by the time I got home, it would all be gone. Yeah, yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You can't wrap them up.
You can't carry things the way you're going to eat them on the way home. I mean, that was why, yeah, I'm the same as you.

Speaker 1 We had a news agent around the corner for us every Saturday. I'd spend all my pocket money

Speaker 1 on the sweets there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Negotiated that as soon as my dad was like, we're going up to two two pounds a week this week. Can I spend all of it on brilliant, just brilliant? I can't believe it.
Yes, get it, and two pounds was

Speaker 1 two pounds got you far.

Speaker 7 Lord, because you'd have things that were 10p, 5p. I would be so rational about this, yeah.

Speaker 1 So prepared.

Speaker 1 Also, like, I figured out pretty early on they weren't counting them, so I could just load those bags up and then we'd go, Yeah, okay, fine, that's two quid, whatever, and then go home, eat it all in front of live, and kicking.

Speaker 1 So, right,

Speaker 1 I saw my dad eat a hamper of these fizzy sweets that the

Speaker 1 tuck shop gave me. Good man.
Because I was like, I'm not eating these. I save them for my nephews, who at the time were like very young.
Put them on top of the fridge at my parents' house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bad move. And he was like, can I have some of those for dessert? I was like, yeah, but remember, they're for

Speaker 1 your dad.

Speaker 1 You said it's for my nephews. For my nephews.

Speaker 1 So his grandchildren. I'm specifically saving it for them.
And he won't. Can I have some of that?

Speaker 1 Can I have some of that for dessert? Yeah, but remember, you can't finish it because

Speaker 1 he gets it in the basket, puts it in front of himself. So doesn't like get a few, put them on a plate, put the basket back on top of the fridge.
Yeah. Basket in front of himself.

Speaker 1 Gets a can of fanta out of the fridge. opens that and me and my girlfriend at the time sat there and watched him eat them like no chewing just like a duck and just put just

Speaker 1 glugging them down with a fanta each time absolutely astounded like we were

Speaker 1 in a lab taking notes on some creature that

Speaker 1 all of them no he didn't eat all of them. He had about half that basket, which is still nuts.
Wow. Still nuts if you're eating your grown cracks.
And didn't

Speaker 1 I was pretty sure you can't be experiencing each sweet as it happens. You're just getting the sugar in your beer.
It's like, get it in my body. I just want it in my body.
Just what's in them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I just want that in my bloodstream. I don't really care about how it tastes.

Speaker 7 It's a real, it's a real issue. Got the hypocrisy of talking about my dessert in comparison to coming for people at the beginning that don't drink water.

Speaker 1 Sure. Yeah, this is really.

Speaker 1 So you've got a fanta fruit twist as well with the phanta frozen phanta frozen oh the ones you get from the cinema yeah frozen fruit twist yeah usually get the cherry mixed with the raspberry which is the blue one but i just think the raspberry is the best one so i always just get that on its own so is the phanta frozen like a challenger to tango ice blast yeah and you prefer the phanta frozen yes yeah yeah yes i think the phanta frozen came first Did it?

Speaker 7 That's a bold statement, though.

Speaker 1 This is the new Jolloff Wars. Yeah, exactly.
Phanta Frozen versus Tango Ice Blast. So I feel like Tango Ice Blast is the only thing really keeping the Tango company afloat at this point.
That's true.

Speaker 1 I don't ever see anyone. I'm not sure if I'm going to be pet favorite of Tango.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Everyone's always going to go Phantom.

Speaker 1 So, like, I would feel bad, even though I'm sure it does taste nicer, the Phantom Frozen. Tango Ice Blast is like, as soon as that's gone, as soon as that gets defeated, they're done.
Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 1 It's over.

Speaker 1 But I'm surprised that, you know, orange Tango ice blasts aren't really much of a thing. It's just the red or the blue.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's kind of across the board. Maybe it's an aesthetic, please, aesthetically pleasing thing.

Speaker 7 But there's to be, yeah, there used to be an orange one, but I only ever see pink and blue.

Speaker 1 When I used to serve them at the theme park in Kepwin, that they then named me after me. Um, there was a green one, oh, and that was mine, that was my

Speaker 1 lime, yeah. And I loved it so much.

Speaker 7 Are you one of those people that like lemon and lime?

Speaker 1 You love lemon and lime, I love lemon and lime. You love lemon and lime as well, yeah, okay, especially with some with cola, with coca-cola, yeah.

Speaker 7 The lemon and lime is itself, absolutely. But as a flavor

Speaker 7 of something, never usually ever choose it.

Speaker 1 Really? It's my favorite vape. Oh, God, really? Yep.
Azuka is a vapist.

Speaker 7 I am also a vapist.

Speaker 1 You came in with your vape earlier and asked Benito if you were allowed to vape in the room. It was very important to you.
You asked me five times.

Speaker 1 I didn't ask you five times before I deferred you to Benito.

Speaker 1 It was very, very important to you.

Speaker 7 It's a very loud one. I don't think it's fair for the listener to hear some kind of like unasked for.

Speaker 1 Izuka Zvek plays the crazy frog.

Speaker 7 Yeah, which I used to do as a kid.

Speaker 1 Does it? No,

Speaker 1 no, no, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 Imagine imagine. Imagine

Speaker 1 every time you inhale from it.

Speaker 1 Trying to vape in secret.

Speaker 1 You love crazy frog. I do love crazy frog.
I think we need to reassess crazy frog. I think it was a work of comic genius.
Yeah, it was. Yeah.
It was. I think it did pretty well at the time.

Speaker 1 Better than it deserved. Yeah, but it was very

Speaker 1 maligned by the critical community. Yeah.
I just think we need some sort of big long think piece on the crazy frog now. Yeah, fair.

Speaker 1 What flavour vape have you got?

Speaker 7 This is pineapple. I'm obsessed with pineapple vapes.

Speaker 1 He can't have that in his house. Why? My wife's allergic to pineapple.

Speaker 1 That is true.

Speaker 1 Careful, pineapple vapes. That's true.

Speaker 1 She can't be near that. She just does not like the smell.
Yeah, I think it would, yeah. I think it might sort of like psychosomatically

Speaker 1 bring out hives. Fair.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah.
And are you strictly lemon and lime flavor?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, I'm rocking a cola at the moment.

Speaker 7 Yes, yes, you are. I heard that on the Paul Mesco one.

Speaker 1 Used to be a peach boy.

Speaker 7 Gosh, these are bold flavours.

Speaker 1 I'll dip in and out of Juicy Peach. Sure.
Dips in and out. Oh, I've got Fizzy Orange as well, actually.
Oh, how is that? It's Fanta. It tastes like Panta.
Oh, delicious. Yeah, yeah.
Not like Tango.

Speaker 1 Well, I guess, yeah. But I was trying to pitch it to a Zooka, so I was going Fanta.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you like Panta. And you don't vape?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 Never smoked, never vaped.

Speaker 7 Never smoked ever.

Speaker 1 No, I never smoked. You don't know what it's like.
Don't know what it's like, wouldn't I?

Speaker 7 Oh, God, your lungs must love you.

Speaker 1 My lungs love me. Every part of my body, actually, loves me, I think.
He's a big smackhead, though.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1 Guilty as charge.

Speaker 1 I'll leave your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it. All right.
You would like Highland Spring still water

Speaker 1 through the door. You would like Irish soda bread with Kerry Gold butter, starter, bruschetta from Italy.

Speaker 1 And then then we're staying in Italy, going through another door to see the touch and having red sauce and toruzzo, pasta.

Speaker 1 Then we're going through another door to Nigeria, Nigerian jollof, asan goats, porridge yam, puff puff, plantain.

Speaker 7 Stunning.

Speaker 1 Side dish. We're going to all of your friends' plates.

Speaker 1 Picking on them. Brilliant.
Most likely you're having a side salad from Sieta and sushi from Renee with tempura prawn in it, not with raw fish because it reminds you of the stinky kitchen.

Speaker 1 Drink, well, you want a strawberry daiquiri as soon as you arrive in the conservatory, but you would like Californian cab save and aroyoca from Spain.

Speaker 1 Dessert, you want a giant pick and mix with Biggie Smalls in New York in the 90s. Loads of different American sweets, mainly fitted sweets with a Fanta raspberry frozen or Fanta fruit twist frozen.

Speaker 7 Fanta frozen with a combination of the cherry flavour and the raspberry flavour.

Speaker 1 Lovely. And then probably a little bit bit of a vape afterwards on your pineapple vape.

Speaker 7 I think I'll need a vape between courses. I usually get a craving as soon as I've eaten something.

Speaker 1 So that'll just be ongoing throughout the whole night.

Speaker 7 Vaping. Maybe there's a sheesha stand somewhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Three will go through the door.
How do you feel about it? It's going to be. I just can't wait for my friends to listen to this.
You've definitely used the doors to their full effect, I'd say.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think so. And, you know, I'll go home and obviously shed a tear over the doors that I forgot or missed, but there'll be lots of people that'll be able to go through whatever door they want.

Speaker 1 Well, you won't go home because you'll go home. I won't, but other people.
No, no, no one will. Everyone's going to fucking die.

Speaker 7 Only in my universe.

Speaker 1 Okay. So it's just you.
Just you're going to die. That's your choice.
Yeah. Fair enough.
Yeah. Well, it's a sad way to end this episode.
Well, you know. The death of a guest.
Zuka seems okay with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Zuka seems alright. Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, it's her choice. Good luck.
Good luck with it all.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to watch the series. Do tell Stephen Graham that he's dead, me.
Let him know. I will do.

Speaker 7 I'll tell him and then I'll show him a picture.

Speaker 1 Me?

Speaker 1 This guy's coming for you. He knows what I fucking look like.

Speaker 1 He knows what I look like. Show him a picture of him when he's wearing his Footman costume in Amazon.
Yeah, Cinderella.

Speaker 1 Fantastic. Yeah, you show him that.
I will. You show him that.
Say, this is England, motherfucker. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much, Azuka.

Speaker 1 Well, there we are, James. A fantastically detailed dream restaurant from Azuka.
Very detailed. An entire universe, entire world, entire set of magical rules.

Speaker 1 and timelines timelines so much going on it was like the sort of thing i'd imagine if they did a marvel themed restaurant yeah yeah but like

Speaker 1 yeah no it would be you're absolutely yeah absolutely right go through doors to different different timelines yeah that'd be quite exciting different universes the multiverse the multiverse of

Speaker 1 funny old mood you today aren't you huh funny old mood i had two custados

Speaker 1 yes thank you very much to forza win uh of course we talked about the custardo on Jimmy Famarewa's episode. He picked that as part of his dream meal.

Speaker 1 James then stole that and used it on his dream meal, even though he'd not had it at that point. Someone on Instagram posted that I stole all of Jimmy's menu.
Oh, did you? No.

Speaker 1 I had stuff from Mangal 2, which I was always planning on having.

Speaker 1 And there was probably somewhere else I had stuff from. maybe quality chop house.
I think he had an olive oil ice cream, maybe from somewhere else. But you stole his drink directly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, deliberately. Deliberately.
And some people don't know when I'm saying something or you're saying something. Oh, is this the case? Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, this is the Tao Taju situation all over again. Yeah, long may that continue.

Speaker 1 I'm pleased to report that the Custado from Forza Wynn tastes every bit as delicious as I imagined it when Jimmy described it. Yes.
And when I stole it and put it on my menu. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've never put something on my dream menu before that I've never had, but it sounded so delicious I had to have it. Had it today.
It is absolutely stained on the menu.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Well, let me tell you, I had two little shots of it as a taste.
Absolutely delicious.

Speaker 1 I thought this will be my downfall. I had it at the same time as my lunch.
Got in to record the episode with the Zooka straight afterwards.

Speaker 1 My blood sugar meter on my phone was buzzing like a champion.

Speaker 1 Not conducive to my insulin regime, but worth it for the short-term distress. Maybe I should get a blood sugar meter.
No, I don't think you should. No? No.
I don't know. It'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 It would be interesting slash horrifying.

Speaker 1 Well, you also have a working pancreas, so it wouldn't wouldn't be too much of an issue, I don't think. Compliment received.

Speaker 1 Thank you for the compliment. Not a compliment.
About my pancreas. No,

Speaker 1 I think you muggles a scum.

Speaker 1 Don't listen to him, Pancrea.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much to Azuka for coming in. Of course, we're very excited that Boiling Point is available now on BBC iPlayer, and it's been shown on BBC One.

Speaker 1 And the second series of the multi-award winning, hugely acclaimed Big Boys is is coming later in the year to channel 4 as well. What a year.
Congratulations, Azuka. Huge year.
Huge year for Azuka.

Speaker 1 And an even bigger year for Azuka because she did not say walnut oil. Thank you for not saying that, so we can continue to ask you about your menu.
Yes. If you like me,

Speaker 1 I'm on tour next year, starting in March. Hot Diggity Dog is the name of the show, and I'm going across and around the UK.
Edgamble.co.uk for tickets.

Speaker 1 Also, buy my book published on October 26th, Ed Gamble, Glutton, The Multi-Course Life of a Very Greedy Boy, available from all good bookshops.

Speaker 1 JamesAcastle.com for tickets to Heckler's Welcome in 2024.

Speaker 1 Newcastle in Edinburgh are mainly looking at you.

Speaker 1 That's where the ticket sales

Speaker 1 aren't sorting through the roof. Put it that way.
Yeah, I mean, but you know, it's all relative, isn't it?

Speaker 1 When James complains about ticket sales, he means it hasn't sold out in three and a half minutes. Yes.
Yeah. And I'm annoyed at that.
Yeah, it should be, mate. Disgraceful.

Speaker 1 I have seen the show and it's a double thumbs up from me. Thank you, Ed.
Huge vouch for that show. It's absolutely fantastic.
Some of your finest work. He's a nice boy, and I like him.

Speaker 1 Huge shout out as well to the East London Liquor Co. Lug, lug, lug.

Speaker 1 Who sent us some rye whiskey and some gin. Benito's been swigging it through all the episodes.
Yeah, he is having a good time, that boy.

Speaker 1 Picklebacks for breakfast. Thank you very much for listening.
We'll see you again sometime soon. Goodbye.
Goodbye. Unless your name is Stephen Gray.
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