Rhys James

1h 23m

Top stand-up, ‘Mock the Week’ regular and Ed’s unofficial little brother, Rhys James is this week’s guest diner. And he’s invented a dessert.


Rhys James’s book ‘You’ll Like It When You Get There: A Life Lived Reluctantly’ is out now. Buy it here.

Watch Rhys’s special, ‘Spilt Milk’ on YouTube here.

Follow Rhys on on Instagram @rhysjamesy


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Hello, it's Ed Gamble here from the Off Menu Podcast.

Hello, it's James A.

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Welcome to the off-menu podcast, taking the salt and vinegar crisps of conversation, opening that bad boy up and throwing in the pickled egg of humor, shaking it around and getting involved.

People do that.

Do they do that?

Yeah.

I've never heard of that before.

I immediately want to do it.

Yeah, I think it sounds like I'd like to to do it as well.

People do do that.

They pop a pickled egg in a bag of crisps.

Something.

Yeah, I think, yeah.

That's great.

Yeah.

That is a gamble.

I saw that happen on your face as well.

You're like, oh, oh, yeah.

What?

Yeah.

To begin with, I thought, I don't know what he's doing here.

He's opening a bag of crisps.

Yeah.

I mean, you popped a pickled egg in there.

Yeah.

I thought, very whimsical.

And I thought, hold on a second.

Yeah.

That just might work.

Peter Piper popped it in there.

Shut up, Peter Piper.

That is a gamble.

My name is James A.

Custer.

Together, we own a dream restaurant, and every single week, we invite a guest who we ask for their favorite ever started main course dessert side dish and drink not in that order and this week our guest is

Rhys James the little oik the little oink of British comedy a fantastic comic very funny man

just the other day my partner was

scrolling through something and a clip came up of you and Rhys yeah trading blows on Mott the week back in the day and I forgot how funny that dynamic was between the two of you.

Yeah,

he's a great comic.

He's a lovely comic foil for me.

My little brother.

And that clip would have been to promote me interviewing him about his book.

Ah.

His new book, You'll Like It When You Get There.

Yes, and I will like it when I get there, Rhys.

Thank you.

I have not read it yet, but I will because I'm interviewing him in two days about it, and I can't wait to read it.

Do you remember that Coolio song, I'll See You When You Get There?

Yeah.

If you ever get there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe Reese is talking about that in the book.

Maybe.

Listen, we like Reese.

When you get there, if you ever get there.

See you when you get there.

So pointless.

So why are you saying it?

Huh?

Why are you saying it if you don't know if they're going to get there or not?

Yeah.

I mean.

How about you make arrangements to make sure they get there and then you don't need to say I'll see you when you get there?

But isn't he talking about heaven?

Probably.

I think you're talking about heaven.

So I think it's like...

Well, that's really bad.

I'll see you in heaven if you don't go to hell.

Yeah.

And burn for all of eternity.

Yeah.

i mean why is coolio so sure he's going to be there yeah uh listen reese you're a nice guy but um if

if you say the secret ingredient we're kicking you out yeah and the secret ingredient was easy this week yeah's pieces because he's called rhys your name is reese i mean and he's a piece of shit and you're a piece of shit the blows don't really work when there's only one of us here oh yeah when it's a well i was going to do like my mott of the week and then he would say like yeah yeah i'm a piece of shit yeah that's what you're going to say about me isn't it and then you'd be able to do an even worse one.

But no, I'm going to say this.

And then bury him.

Yeah.

And then he'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But now he's not here.

Yeah.

Feels bad.

You're just calling a man a piece of shit.

Feels bad.

Feels bad.

But, you know, I think he deserves it.

He's a little piece of shit.

Yeah.

So hopefully he doesn't say Rhys's pieces, although he's a funny one to kick out.

Yeah, it'd be very funny to kick him out because he's such a little shit.

So like, that'll be great.

Also, it must mean that when we had Rhys Shearsmith on, we didn't choose Rhys's pieces.

Yeah, weird.

So I get, but I guess we went for some like...

League of Gentlemen.

Yeah, we went special stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, fair enough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Reese James doesn't have the body of work.

No.

That Vee Shear Smith has.

We just have to go for his name.

Man, I can't believe how much we're roasting Rhys before he's even come on.

Well, it's rare that you know that the guest will listen to it.

Yeah, yeah.

So we know that Meese is going to hear all this.

Yeah.

And it's really fun to lay into him.

Yeah.

And he's got to sit there going, oh, fuck's sake.

And whenever this comes out, he'll message me going, thanks for that.

I won't even remember what we said.

Yeah, yeah.

This means nothing to us, Reese.

Yeah.

This roasting of you.

It's like when Thanos is confronted by Drax and he's like, You killed my family.

He's like, I don't even remember.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you think that's cold.

Yeah.

That is like, that's the worst thing you could say to him.

It's like that with Rhys.

Reese, what we're saying right now, you can text me and go, oh, that Thanos thing, you're a dweeb.

I'll be like, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

With Thanos.

Yeah, we're Thanos.

With a podcast, Thanos.

Yeah.

If we click, half the podcast will disappear.

Yeah.

Click our fingers.

That's goodbye.

No such thing as fish.

Goodbye.

My dad voted porno.

That's not on anyone.

Goodbye, babysitter boys.

What?

The one that Rob and Josh do.

Right.

Babysitter boys.

Yeah.

Babysitter boys.

This is the off-menu menu of Rhys.

Reese James.

Welcome, Rhys, to the Dream Restaurant.

Thank you very much.

Welcome, Rhys James, to the Dream Restaurant.

It's been in you for some time.

An honor.

What a great honor that I've been waiting for all my life.

All my life.

When you first launched this podcast six years ago, 2018.

Seven years ago.

Seven, seven.

We're knocking on for seven now.

Probably nine by the time this comes out.

Yeah.

I've been satisfied post box like a Labrador ever since.

Waiting for that invite to come through the post.

We do it in emails.

It's emails.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why you.

shit on my laptop nine years ago.

We were expecting you every week.

I've got to be on week one.

No apply whatsoever.

It was me or Mike Skinner in that first series, wasn't it?

Yeah, Mike checks his emails.

Modern guy.

Mike is a modern guy.

I bet he doesn't check his emails.

No, but he'll have someone.

I don't have someone.

Yeah, yeah,

you don't have someone.

I don't have someone.

What a sad way to start.

I don't have anyone.

You don't have anyone, do you, Luce?

I don't have anyone.

That's kind of what your book's about, right?

You'll like it when you get here by Reese James.

Yeah.

Fair.

Was that huge?

It's there, you gotta, yeah.

Might have half read it.

Well, that's the aim.

That's what I've been most in the audience.

I don't think reading it is important with books, isn't it?

Just buy it.

Genuinely, at this stage, just buy it and leave it anywhere.

I had that once.

I went on a first book come out and I went on a show.

First book.

Will Gompers was hosting it.

Who's that?

Bookman.

But I've got a quote from Dara on the front.

Yeah, I was quite, and it was something like,

no, sorry, that's not what it was.

Forget it.

Another Another great story from the brain of James Edwards.

It books out in August.

You've got a quote from Dara as well.

I've got a quote from Dara on the back of it.

You've got a quote from Dara?

What's your quote from Dara?

I did have a quote from Dara.

I just can't remember it.

But I remembered it wasn't the quote from Dara that he got wrong.

It's a cry for help, but it's a very funny one.

That's what Dara says about your book.

Yeah.

Do you want to say about my book?

Nothing.

Turn me down for a quote.

Turn me down for a quote.

Said he was too busy, done too many of them.

Too busy, done too many.

Unbelievable.

When I'm at that stage now, I'm sort of after a generation of people who'd have asked Dara for quotes.

Sure.

So he's probably begging to do quotes for books at the moment.

No, I've got one.

I mean, it's better that he refused the quote before he'd not read it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That would have been awful.

That would be great.

I've taken quite a lot.

Sent him a book, and then I was like, you know, that weird thing that came through the post with my face on it.

Have you read that?

And he kept being like, ooh, I'm going to Nottingham tomorrow.

I'll read it then.

And then I'd be like, what do you think?

And then he was like, how's this?

And then sent me basically that non-committal quote.

I like it.

I like that quote.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You've got to respect it.

So I'd have good quotes here.

Pasco said, as witty and clever as we say, stand-up, but you can take it in the bar.

True.

Oh, Benito has googled the front cover for my first book.

What's the Dara quote?

Should we guess?

Yeah.

This is Classic Scrapes.

Yeah.

No one scrapes like Jimmy A.

Oh, I like that.

A great book.

Very enjoyable.

He's put it's...

He's better than that.

Do you know what?

I don't know why we've included the full quote.

I think we should have clipped off this first bit.

He's written, it's just my opinion.

I don't know why we've put that in there.

It sounds like he insisted that was there.

Yeah, yeah.

Everyone thinks this.

Yeah.

But James is the funniest of all these comedians you haven't heard of yet.

Very, okay.

He's a bit, he gets spiky in these quotes.

There's always a bit of a neg in there, isn't it?

Always a cry for help from this dweeb.

Or, yeah, you never heard of this loser.

And by the way, it's not a fact.

It's just my opinion.

Just my opinion.

He's the funniest.

In a very narrow

book.

You haven't heard of yet, but you've got a book out.

Yeah.

The book cover, Dara, they've heard of it.

Yeah.

Automatically.

Even if the first font was bigger, your name or Dara's quote?

Yeah, yeah, Dara's quote that's bigger.

They're reading that first.

So read that first.

Go, oh, no.

Oh, James A.

Cats.

I don't know about him.

It might be like a thumbnail, really.

Yeah.

Like me, the little picture of me, and then Dara.

Yeah.

Dara's whole quote.

This is very exciting, though, Rhys.

You've got a book.

You're excited.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

What's really exciting about this?

What's the book about?

Don't make me say that.

It's a guide to life from someone who doesn't want to do anything.

There we go.

So if you don't ever want to do it.

So you try and avoid doing stuff as much as possible.

So

that's my default, how I feel is default.

It's sort of quite introverted.

The build-up just is dread.

It's a dread memoir.

The build-up to everything is dread.

Don't want to do it.

You wouldn't think I was an introvert if you went to the pub with me.

I would seem like an extrovert because it manifests if I'm speaking too much.

It's not fun.

It's just, it's just, it's just a lot.

I will speak too much and I'll think, oh, I've got to feel all of this.

There can't be a silence ever.

Yeah.

Etc.

That's why I speak really quick on stage as well.

You're the anti-John Robbins.

Yeah.

I thought, because I'd said to speak quick on stage, you were going to say Kearns.

You were still on the pub thing.

Yeah, no, no, I was still on that.

No, yeah, just...

Quite happy, quite chilly.

Quiet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wants to go to the pub, doesn't say anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Doesn't want to go to the pub, says everything.

Yeah, yeah, great.

Yeah, if me and John are in the pub, it's an absolute nightmare.

It's just us two killing time.

How much did you want to come and do this podcast then?

Well, that's, you know.

You know, you can be honest with us.

In terms of the pantheon of things I will have to do to promote this book,

I wouldn't even put this in a have to.

This is a want to.

But there's certainly things that I will be doing that I, you know, that I have to.

The tux won't come out for those.

Tux isn't.

I'm not wearing the tux on Sunday brunch.

No.

Okay.

You should, though.

You should do.

All right, I will.

There we go, Sols.

For the listener, love joy.

No, God, no.

He will be baffled.

Oh, yeah.

Good point.

For the listener, I happen to be wearing a tux.

Yeah, yeah.

If you're listening to this, I mean, but this is our first ever guest who has turned up wearing a tux.

This is a big podcast.

This is a fancy restaurant.

Yeah.

You've had a lot of fancy guests, a lot of celebs in this restaurant.

Yeah.

I thought, I've got to, you know,

this is the red carpet of fancy this podcast.

It is, yeah.

So

someone's got to make an effort at last, haven't they?

Yeah.

I mean, appreciate it.

I'm a fancy guy as well.

You know that.

Yeah.

When I do bother to turn up to stuff, I do it in a very, very fancy way.

Yeah.

Would you say you seem to agree?

It's just my opinion.

I've never hung out with you at gigs and TV shows.

I wouldn't say you out fancy people at those.

Rude.

Yeah, I wouldn't say fancy is the first thing that I'd

first thing.

Pale?

Oh, okay.

Quite pale.

No one pale in history has ever been fancy, then.

Sorry.

May I remind you of the one of the old centuries where they're all pale.

Fancy.

They couldn't think of one.

One name.

Couldn't think of one.

But you know, I'm thinking of like, you know, those films based on the past.

The films based on the past.

Where they've painted a beauty mark on the...

Yeah, exactly.

And they're all very pale dandies.

Yeah.

They're dandies.

Fine, I think of you as a dandy.

Yeah, fine.

I'll take it.

Yeah, I would think of you as a dandy more than a

fancy.

Fancy guy, yeah.

If someone is interchangeable, if we, if it's back in the day and we're all in the same episode of Mott the Week, and one of the runners came up to me in the corridor and was like, I've lost the dandy.

I'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, he's down there.

Yeah, he's down there.

His name is Rhys James.

Yeah, fair enough.

Do you think wearing a tux to a restaurant is dangerous?

Because I think you should not be the fanciest person.

The waiter should look fancier, don't you think?

The waiter may feel I have

cosplayed as him.

Yes.

I don't get the logic of the waiter being fancier than the guests.

Why would that make sense?

It depends.

If it's an old school fancy restaurant, you want to feel like...

I don't want to feel like I'm intruding on these fancy people who, what, live there?

If they work there, you know what I mean?

It's like, no, I'm the guest.

I should be the fanciest one.

Yeah.

If they work there, they should look like shit.

They should dress down.

Yeah, you don't want to go in as a guest and feel like...

You're not good enough to be in this place.

Exactly.

We don't want them to be snooty and sort of looking down on you for being there because of what you're wearing.

And that's why why I always wear tux.

Always.

So it can't happen.

Yeah.

Dernando's tux.

Straight to five guys.

Yeah.

My tux.

Well, I mean, I think you look very, very shy.

Oh, you look very nice.

Oh, thanks.

And it is the world.

Also for the listeners, quite a hot day outside.

Yes.

We've already recorded an episode in here today, and it quite quickly got boiling hot in this room.

Benito has done all he can to air the room out.

Right now, it's fine.

Yeah.

Let's see how much of this tux makes it to the end of the episode.

Yeah, you're going to be dripping by the end.

I didn't wear the waistcoat.

That was an option.

I took the waistcoat.

Yeah, no, two pieces.

I I wish you'd won the waistcoat.

Two-piece.

I would have loved to have seen the waistcoat.

To go halfway through and then take the jacket off and be wearing the waistcoat.

Yeah.

And a come up.

Like a teddy vet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

On the way to prom.

It's the energy you bring.

On the way to prom.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Is that because I pulled up here in a limo?

I was in a stretch limo.

Yeah, I was out in the sunroof, wasn't it?

Yeah.

You bought a corsage.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Popped arms, please.

And that girl waiting through there.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the corsage.

There with a gown.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You just told her to wait for you while you do a podcast.

Yeah, and her parents, obviously.

Yeah.

Yeah.

picking her up.

Yeah.

Dad trying to intimidate you?

Yeah.

Not scared of him.

Wearing a tux.

You ever been scared of anyone while you're wearing the tux?

No, actually.

You just wouldn't be, would you?

Good question.

This is why fancy people, a.k.a.

dandies, are so confident.

Yeah.

I've done corporates in tuxes before, and I've been very scared during like.

At this point, actually, did a corporate for 300 plumbers last week.

What was a corporate plan?

300 plumbers.

Last week, I'd say I did a joke about trains.

One of my first joke, I just mentioned getting the train, or like rail card expired or something.

I'd say, in the first minute, heckled with train wanker, biggest laugh of the night, unrecoverable.

You don't

book a dandy to do a plumbing corporate.

It did go all right at the end, but I never got quite to that level.

So you said I got a train.

I said, yeah, something like, oh, yeah.

And I was

building tension on people because I was about to call them van people.

That's where I was going with it.

Before I had a chance, they saw the

comic gap I was leaving.

Yeah.

To go, rail card's expired.

Of course, you don't relate to this.

You're all van.

And I was going to go in that

hard like that.

But I couldn't because before I could do anything, train wanker, everyone losing their minds.

Yeah.

Then I said, oh, how do you think?

You think they're stereotypes, don't you?

Yeah.

You think they're stereotypes.

The problem is, that is really funny.

It's really funny.

That is the thing to show.

Well, it's one of those, you know, sometimes you get a heck of and you think, you know, immediately I need to come back and shut this person down.

That was when it's like, well, I have to laugh.

Let it roll around.

I have to laugh.

You've got to get involved.

I was thinking, this could kill a good five minutes.

Yeah.

I was laughing non-stop.

I've only got to do 20 minutes.

Sure, at a corporate.

Yeah.

They had told me before this corporate, oh, it'll be more, everyone will be in black tie and it'll be more the sort of suits of the plumbing industry rather than the polo shirts of the plumbing industry.

Oh, interesting.

There was not a single person in the audience not wearing cargo shorts.

Every single got there, every single person had a stained polo shirt.

It was set up like a black tie event.

Yeah.

A big fancy round table.

That's a met and they'd all come straight from work.

Yeah.

It's like they all expected there to be a leak at any moment.

And you were in the tux.

Yeah.

Oh, tux wanker.

Drank my green tie.

To be fair, first class wanker.

To be fair, right?

There is a leak because you've come come on this podcast and told us everything that's happening

yeah yeah yeah now that's good and he doesn't get booked for corporates can you imagine i've done a corporate oh yeah done a corporate just one yeah yeah i know what corporates are like what was it for it so it's like all corporates you do it in a cinema

and they let you see a film that night for free and uh they give you some food uh to eat uh beforehand for a full meal and you can just wear your normal clothes you don't have to wear a suit or nothing the one thing i wouldn't want to do after any corporate I've done is go immediately to the cinema for the rest of the evening with all the people who were at the corporate.

I didn't watch it with them.

All right, fine.

They're just like, whatever film you want to watch.

Tell you what, I don't want to be in a cinema with 300 plumbers watching Train Spotting.

No, no, that's going to take forever.

Watch Super Mario Brothers.

Super Mario Brothers.

There we go.

I love that.

Sorry, I spoke over that.

They're not hepting that.

They wouldn't dare.

It doesn't work like that.

That'd be applauded.

They're not even qualified.

Oh, by the way, I'm very excited to hear your menu.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah, because as far as I'm concerned with you, you eat like a child.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, you, um, I'd never seen an avocado until you.

Until me?

Yeah.

Exactly.

Dropping the coaster.

You have an avocado.

Ed's playing with a coaster for the list.

Sorry, I'm going to drop the coaster out of shock.

I was aware of the, I'd heard the name.

Ed Gamble.

I'd heard the name Ed Gamble, because I was aware of your work and I knew you loved avocados.

The phrase, I'd never seen an avocado until you've seen one.

You introduced me, man.

And I now

thought that song, I never knew I was looking for love until I found you.

It's a bit like that.

I never seen you.

I never knew I was a black hole until you came into my life.

So, what was this occasion?

We were in Manchester doing the student gigs.

Yeah.

And

you opted for a home salad instead of eating a curry mile or whatever, as we would normally do on those trips.

And part of that salad was an avocado.

And you were holding it.

And I was like, what the hell is this?

And you said, this is an avocado.

I said, oh, great.

I've heard of these.

I've never seen one.

That's wild.

And I sort of like, like a child stood on a stool next to the sort of kitchen side who's trying to observe anything.

I was like, show me, Ed.

What is it?

What's inside this?

And you cut it open, and like you were talking to a two-year-old, you were like, so you cut it open, and then there's a stone inside, and then you reveal it.

And yes, look, that's a small one.

So that's really good because it means you get more avocados.

Oh, I remember this so vividly.

And then I was like,

can I try a piece?

It was like that level.

Do you like all that archive footage of kids in the war seeing bananas for the first time?

Dandies.

Yeah, dandies.

Little dandies.

great that is great so so you know i can see why you might you know remember that but seeped in somehow that's why you think i might have that kind of menu well fancy changed definitely happened because he said this is a good one because it's smaller so you get more of a colour about the stone that's normally a gamble

yeah that is me also if someone said quickly tell me a rhys james joke The one that sticks in my mind as the Rhys James joke is, I'm growing up, I've stopped eating chicken nuggets and I ate chicken gujons, which felt very, very you.

That feels like genuinely you.

And I'd say, yeah, and that kind of switch from the nuggets to the goujons is the switch from like t-shirt and shorts to tucks to me.

And that's why

growing up, Goujon, it's a French word.

That's fancy.

So that's why I'm, because I'm fancy now.

So maybe it will be a childish menu.

It's up to you to decide whether you think it is.

Personally, I think it's a pretty grown-up menu.

Well, we've had, look, we've had lunch before.

I think.

I've had lunch before.

Yeah, you know, me and you told me.

We've had lunch together before.

You took me to a metal restaurant once.

A metal restaurant?

You took me me to a restaurant where they play metal so loud.

We were in daddies.

No, no, no, no.

It was Black Axe Mangal.

Oh, yeah.

And you have Black Axe Mangalo.

Backs Mangal.

It's next to the Hen and Chickens in Itlington.

It's an amazing restaurant.

It was really good.

The food was amazing, but I couldn't hear a word.

They play loud music.

Yeah.

They play loud hip-hop and loud music.

But it's a fantastic restaurant.

Huge, huge shout-out to Black Axe Mangal.

They won't be featuring on this menu.

Okay.

Their food was great.

Yeah, yeah.

We had a patty melt together once.

Oh.

Did we?

Yeah.

What's that?

You were excited.

You said we should go here.

I want to have a patty melt.

Patty melt.

Yeah.

Like a sandwich that's like a burger.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Great.

Got it.

In that hotel in Hoban.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Was that the Hoxton?

The Hoxton.

Tried to do a sandwich review series for your Radio X show of their Christmas sandwiches.

Did two.

They were both bad.

Stopped sending them in.

Didn't want to go anymore.

Had a loyalty card.

Still didn't bother.

Well, they read out the first two.

Yeah, I did not.

So everyone knows you quit.

Yeah, I slammed these sandwiches and then just like, I'm not doing this anymore.

It's Christmas.

We we always start with still the sparkling water race do you have a preference look

that I'd like still water I'm having sparkling okay what all right really you can't you got to have bubbles in a tux I'm afraid you can't walk into a restaurant like this yeah and say yeah just normal tap yeah

it would look weird I'm going sparkling it would look weird if you were can I both no okay sold

everyone else gets it dream restaurant can have what you want yeah suddenly I bet the secret ingredient is bread in this one by the way.

You're desperate to kick me out, especially when I'm wearing this.

Funny.

Do you want both?

Yeah.

Little cup of both.

Yeah.

Little cup of both.

Little cup of.

Because San Pellegrino, the green glass San Pellegrino bottle, that's a classy.

Now that's a classy bottle.

Tennis.

Fair to say?

What, you makes me think of tennis?

Fair to say tennis.

Yeah, it's fair to say tennis.

Makes me think of tennis.

Okay.

But I want a little glass of that to start, and then I want to move on to the still version of San Pellegrino.

which I think is called, it begins with a P, doesn't it?

It's not Pellegrino.

It's the orange logo.

It's got an orange logo.

It's like Pata or something like that.

Well, I don't think I knew this.

I don't think I know.

It's what you would have seen it.

White bottle, orange logo.

Sorry, not white, clear.

Yeah.

Water.

Water.

Wow.

White bottle would be messing with me.

Really playing up to being a little kid who sees

the clear figures weirdly.

Yeah, little white bottle.

He's nice and warm.

Panna.

Aquapana.

Aquapana.

Is that the...

Oh, okay, I've seen Aquapana.

Is that the same company?

That is the sister drink of the bubbly Sam Pellegrino.

Sister drink.

There you go.

Actually, more of an adult than we gave you credit for.

Because you've seen water before.

Yeah, about the sister drinks.

I know about the sister drinks.

Yeah, well, we'll let you have some aquapana and some San Pellegrino if you like.

Brother and sister.

Brother and sister.

Yes, please.

Yeah, I love the brother and sister of water.

Yeah.

What's the mum and dad of water then?

Well, I guess you will be the water daddy in that situation.

If you've got both, you can call yourself.

Oh, then I'm the water daddy.

You'll be like, I'm the water.

You can just call yourself the water daddy.

Yeah, but then you've got to drink your own kids.

Yeah.

That's weird, right?

Would you drink your own kids?

We never asked anyone this before.

hmm

look i don't want kids so i guess so if that's going to get rid of them no harm no foul oh you see that as an obliteration of your children obliterates the kids if i'm drinking yeah i'm drinking what i'm drinking them to death because you remember that's true yeah you are drinking them to death they live on through piss

heart i think they live on through piss don't they how clear is the piss i don't know i think i think they're dead by the time they're pissed rest in piss dead by the time they're pissed yeah

rest in piss sorry for stepping on it it's fantastic it's all right it's out there It's fantastic.

Okay.

Yeah.

Kill the kids, rest in peace.

That's a fair description of my relationship with not wanting to be a father.

Yeah.

Pop numbs on bread.

Pop numbs on bread, Lee, James.

Pop numbs on bread.

I bet it feels good, doesn't it?

Shout that.

To have someone that you don't respect in the chair.

Again.

You man too, but you've got to...

The podcast has got too big for how much you like shouting that.

Yeah.

So there's too many people that you're like, I'm not shouting it.

But it is funnier when it's someone that James really respects and he has the sort of semi-show.

Yeah, but it's nice for you to get out of your system every now and then so that you can go.

And I presume it's Al Pascino next week or someone that you're not looking to joke Pesci's in, I imagine.

Well, I have to change my mind because, you know, when it was De Niro, I was like, I don't want to do this.

Yeah.

And then you have to go to yourself, no, no, listen, this is really funny that you're going to show it.

So I have to change my mind, but I have to forcibly do it.

It's not a natural thing.

He's an old man, though, right?

I have to be like, come on, this is funny as shit.

That it's Robert De Niro.

Yeah.

How do you feel about screaming that an old man?

Yeah, I I mean, anything could have happened.

There is almost, it's on a knife edge when they're old.

And when we do get an old one in, I am thinking, like, if is this the one where I finally kill someone?

Would you drink your heroes?

I drink my heroes.

Let's drink my heroes.

Rest in piss, Mr.

De Niro.

Rest in piss.

Bobby De Niro.

Oh, all the things he survived in films and stuff, for that to be the thing that really kills him.

He survived in films.

In films, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

He died for the Bobby.

That's how we see him.

I don't know what he survived in his life, but I imagine it's similar, isn't it?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, you know him.

You're mates with him.

Does he carry himself like that?

Everything he's done in films, he's also really railway.

Yeah, he does.

He's method.

When is the bit of this podcast where you pitch stuff for me, by the way, and I choose what I want?

When you do that, goojans, please.

Yeah.

I tell you what, if you did choose to play it like that, we can't tell you no.

There's precedent now.

We would be fine.

We're not doing that, Reese.

You either choose it or we're not doing this fucking podcast.

Get a couple of Oscars under your belt and we'll do that.

Until then.

I think we would say that to Reese, though, you know, we'd say if Reese started going, I have whatever's good, we'd be like, You fucking just pick something, of course, you would, because in the same way, you just scream that at me as loud as you've ever screamed it, because you don't respect me.

I respect you for not respecting me, of course.

I do, because I wouldn't.

You think I've been so hard on the outfit, desperately trying to get a crumb of respect, but I'm waiting for the moment I say bread and you say unlucky secret ingredient, goodbye.

Yeah, you put that on for nothing.

What you want to pick then?

Well, okay, it's bread.

Get out.

God damn.

It's bread.

And what I want for the outfit, for the whole vibe, is, you know, sort of like fancy Forcatcha with oil and balsamic vinegar.

Yeah.

And as a dandy, who has been a dandy my whole life, I did used to go home from sick form and have that for lunch.

Yeah, for catcher for lunch.

I mean, what we do the oil and the balsamic.

And you never saw an avocado until you met Ed.

I know.

This is amazing.

Quite beige diet for a very long time.

You went home.

I would take friends there as well.

Who?

Take friends there?

Oh, yeah.

So my house was quite cool.

I couldn't believe that you had friends.

Who are you told?

Who's friends?

Friends.

Who were your friends at school?

I took my friends.

Phoebe, Monica.

I took my friend James and Ed.

I took my friend Sam there once and was like, mate, let's go have lunch at mine because my house is quite near the school.

Sick of this canteen nonsense.

And the starter would be, I'd have some nice fancy bread and I would do olive oil and balsamic in a little dish and we dip it in there while waiting for our dippers to cook.

Our dippers would be in the oven.

We'd watch an episode of Flight of the Concords,

dipping our bread.

Yeah.

And then we'd get on our guts and we dip them in ketchup and stuff.

Did Sam like Flight of the Concords, or were you being like Sam?

You always focus on the weirdest bit of the story.

He's quite happy with the dippers and the bread situation.

Absolutely fine with Rhys being at school and going home to dip Balsamic oil for catcher.

You go, oh, Fly of the Concords.

Tell me more about Sam.

It just feels like this whole thing is like Reese has created the lunch time I see where you're and that Sam is having to go along with her he's happy to get him back and I'm wondering if you're also like you know as a comedy nerd you're like watching all that stuff but your friends are like whoa no I think they were he was into flight of the concords we love flight of the concord we both liked it how did he feel about the oil and vinegar I think he that was one of those things where I was like mate have you had this

the thing that you get at the start of every meal if you ever go out yeah you have this you got to have this so it's like the promise I didn't sell it on that the promise was I knew I knew that he'd love, have you had this, you got to have this.

But you know, instantly laughing to himself.

The way I would get him back to the house, and not to sound so creepy, but it's to be like, I've got chips and chicken nuggets at my house.

They're not doing proper chips in this canteen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, come back to mine.

Come back to mine.

We'll watch right at the Concords.

We don't need to be around these other guys.

We'll just hang out at mine.

You know, these guys are bullies.

They want to really wear what you want to wear.

Seems like you're trying to get off them.

Yeah, it wasn't trying to get off of them, actually, I swear.

And then we would

and then I put those in the oven.

You've got to have something while you wait, totally.

And the natural thing for me was uh fancy bread.

And I was when I first experienced the sort of oil by balsamic thing in a restaurant, I was like, This is the best part of the meal by Miles.

Yeah, so delicious.

Dipping that in there.

Look, you're pretty sensitive to the conversion.

But they change that, you don't get it so much anymore.

The day I got a panini maker at home was the day I became the most popular guy of the year.

Yeah.

Oh, did you?

Oh, yeah.

Who'd you have home?

Uh, Josh.

Oh, Josh?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What, all back to yours, what was in the paninis?

Uh, whatever, whatever I wanted, because that's like I can breville toasty maker 100% know what you're getting out of cheese toasty for sure, those little triangles, yeah, that's popular.

I love, I've got one of those now, yeah, I've got to believe you.

I cannot, I cannot wait to break out the brevil, it's amazing come winter, yeah, really seasonal for you.

Uh, well, I mean, we've just had a heat wave, but it's 2025.

Um, we've just had a heat wave.

I don't know what year you're listening to this, yeah,

2022, yeah, rest in peace to Reese James.

I'm actually for his own funeral.

That's when they'll be putting out.

Yeah, rest in peace.

Yeah,

I can't be eating one of those pockets of fire

in the summer.

You could wait a bit, wait for it to cool down a bit.

No way.

No.

That's all the fun gone.

Blanket, no.

We'll not be waiting for anything to cool down ever.

No, it was like a flat-top panini maker thing.

So like proper press.

Like a press.

No, not with the stripes.

Just flat, completely flat.

Oh, no, don't rate it.

That's how you make panini.

I'm not eating that.

Don't rate it.

Eat the stripes.

The stripes attack it.

It's like my tracks at bottom.

Scott have the stripes or people will slag me off.

What's the tiger without his stripes?

Exactly.

A lion.

Yeah.

But yeah, that is better.

It's got a nasty improviser.

Oh, God.

No, like, probably just mozzarella and ham I'd put in there.

Fair enough.

And ham.

I know the cheese gets hot, but like other ingredients in a toasty or panini do become hot in a way that is, I've never seen before in any meal.

Well, the tomatoes, you could have.

The tomatoes you could have.

The tomatoes, like molten lava yeah but i'm not putting fresh tomato in a panini no it's too much water in it even

before on this podcast yeah you seem to think tomatoes is really water-based they're very watery if you put them in a panini and then heat them up waterlogged rain you know rained off rained off panini's been rained off planted play cancelled yeah it's wimbled we just had a wimbled in 2025.

So do you want the focaccia with the oil and barsamp vinegar for your dream bread?

I either want that.

I don't know what the rules are in terms of how far I can deviate from just bread, because what I want is the chili cheese toast from Deshoum as my bread course.

Oh, that's what you want.

That's what I want.

But I'll happily have the focaccia and oil if that's more in the bread family.

Chili cheese toast.

It's bread.

Bread.

Yeah, it's chili cheese.

We've had people push the boundary way more than that.

I've only listened to the Robert De Niro episode.

The chili cheese toast from Deshoum is a great bread course.

It's fantastic, isn't it?

Only on the breakfast menu, as far as I'm aware.

Right, yeah.

And it's with eggs on it, yeah.

I don't know if you can even get it on you on its own, but I love it so much.

No, I think you can get it separately on the menu, yeah, but with not without eggs on it.

I think you can get it on the regular.

I don't want it with eggs on it in this.

Yeah, I think the regular menu and eggs on it.

That can't be what you're if you're having bread before a meal, you can't just have, can I have eggs on it?

Well, but yeah, but I guess the bread course is like the breakfast of the meal, right?

We'd let it don't want it.

But is this how it works for me?

So, Robert De Nero, you go, you go, or what about this?

And he goes, yeah, okay.

If it's good.

Yeah.

Weird catchphrase.

For me, you go, no, you have to have eggs on it, by the way.

Every course is a good idea.

You have to have a couple of eggs on it.

And by the way, the secret ingredient is eggs.

We got the other.

Punked.

It is on the menu, isn't it?

But without eggs on the regular menu.

Yeah, chili cheese toast from Deshum.

Fantastic.

Yeah.

I'll have that.

And I love that, but I always over-order at Dashum.

And.

The cheese on toast always feels like a step too far.

You're like, I've ordered all of that and now I'm having cheese on the cheese on toast.

I've got any cheese on toast.

Yeah, because of the chili, it doesn't feel like cheese on toast to me for some reason.

But it is, isn't it?

But it is just cheese on toast with chili in it.

But it's so delicious.

What type of bread is it?

It feels just like quite a regular bread.

Normal bread.

Normal bread.

Yeah.

Which is right up your street.

Normal.

White sliced loaf.

White sliced loaf.

Yeah.

Classic.

Can't argue with that.

I've never had it.

I mean, I've been to Deshum a lot, love it, but like, yeah, I've never had it.

I've done a breakfast there.

Much?

No.

No,

I've not done a breakfast.

I think I prefer going there for breakfast than what you want the eggs on this.

I don't want the eggs.

Stop making me have the eggs.

I know it's a secret ingredient.

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Okay.

From a place called Billy's in Harpenden, I would like a culinary hotspot.

They've got a sales up.

They had a subway for a while.

You know where I go?

Protests about that in the town, by the way.

You know where I go when I want a great meal?

One of London's satellite commuters have.

Can't get a McDonald's off.

Can't get a McDonald's there.

No.

Every time they're like, for my whole childhood, every time any shop closed down, there would be a rumor that's going to be a McDonald's.

And then a week later, there'd be another rumor.

Oh, the parents shut it down.

They wouldn't let it happen.

They protested, yeah.

The Harpond and parents.

And I think my mum was spreading that rumor, going, oh, you know what?

Harper and parents were like, they wouldn't let you have a McDonald's here because of the litter.

And then I'd sort of go, can I check your emails?

Specifically, it's just her all the time.

Or she's a thousand email addresses.

Yeah.

Yeah, it doesn't want a McDonald's there.

But we did have a Subway, and that was very exciting for a time.

That was

very excited when Ketman got a Subway.

Yeah.

Really excited.

How is Subway better in terms of the parents?

How is Subway better than McDonald's?

Do you think?

They, because they hadn't heard of it.

Right.

Because it felt like when it came to Harvard, it felt like it had come direct from Los Angeles.

Yeah.

It's like I'd never seen one before in England.

Yeah.

It wasn't a burger.

It was a sandwich.

And they can't argue with sandwiches because they've been putting them in your pack of lunches.

Yeah.

That's true.

They can't exactly be like, the sandwiches are unhealthy.

Because you're like, well, where's this twist?

It's like if they opened a malt loaf restaurant.

And there's veggies like visible when you go in.

Yeah, they're salad.

Yeah.

Even though they're salad in a Big Mac as well.

Yeah.

Well, and a burger's a sandwich.

And burger's a sandwich.

Although, is it?

I genuinely was in the shower the other day and probably had 10 minutes thinking to myself, do you classify a burger as a sandwich?

He has a podcast of his own.

Yeah.

I don't need to.

He's always thinking of content.

This guy leaves.

The two sticks you get in the food questions.

I wasn't doing it out loud.

What about hot dog then?

So this is where my mind went.

Oh, it's a hot dog a sandwich.

So maybe it's if the bread doesn't touch, hear me out.

Yeah.

Hot dog, it's like a you of bread.

It's a you of bread.

That's not a sandwich.

But there was

not a sandwich filled.

It's not a sandwich.

It definitely is.

Now the bread's touching.

Definitely.

If the bread is separate and there's stuff between it, a sandwich it shall be.

Okay.

Burger sandwich.

You said it like it rhymes.

That doesn't rhyme.

I hoped it would.

As I was speaking, I thought, I hope this rhymes.

May I take you back to the panini?

Or a roll, a filled roll.

Quite often, they will just slice into the roll.

They'll leave a hinge.

Negligent.

They'll leave a a hinge and then they'll fill the roll.

Is that a sandwich?

Or is a roll a sandwich?

Yeah.

It is still a sandwich.

Yeah.

Did you say hello in your head when you were doing this for yourself?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every now you go.

Hello.

Yeah.

And then I tried to wash the bottom of my foot and nearly fell over.

And so my episode.

Wash the bottom of your foot.

Yeah, try and wash the bottom of my feet, obviously.

And then you put the foot down and you're like, this is going to be a really tense minute while I'm slipping around in shower gel here.

Yeah.

And I picked the other foot up.

So I'm just on one slippy foot.

But you're still thinking of the sandwich thing at this point.

Well, I'm trying to, but I can't keep the episode on track because I'm too worried about falling over in the shower like an old man.

Yeah.

But it's good to hear you write for these.

Yeah.

I don't know.

It really does feel like Mock Mole.

Me washing the bottom of my feet is not a scene you'd like to see.

Oh, yes.

Love that.

Smooth.

Love that.

Smooth.

No, not smooth at all.

But yeah,

they do hinge the Subway sandwiches.

So, and that is.

There you go.

That's a sandwich.

All right.

I concede.

Yeah.

Well, in any case, I want to go to Billy's, not Subway.

Sorry, Billy's.

It doesn't exist anymore.

It's also closed down.

They probably think it's going to be a McDonald's there, but it isn't.

I'm telling you, it isn't.

Billy's was, for all intents and purposes, a bad pub.

It was really fun, but I was a child.

And so I thought it was amazing.

And actually, when I would eat what I'm going to have as a starter, which is the Buffalo Wings.

and nachos.

I want both of them as the starter.

There was a year when I was 15 where my parents separated for one year.

Just for one year?

For one year.

They had a roomback together.

They had a room springer.

What's that?

Is that a sandwich?

No, it's the Amish tradition of

you get to leave the community for a year and go and do whatever you want as long as the promises you come back and become Amish again.

Yeah.

I did know that about the Amish.

I didn't know it was called that.

And I didn't know.

I knew this much about the Amish.

I love the Amish.

I keep getting TikToks at the moment of people going to Amish communities and saying you have have to prepare.

The zombies are already in the city.

And the Amish people will be like, what?

And they're going like, honestly.

And then there's other ones of them showing brain rot to Amish people.

Yeah.

Like weird memes that just don't make any sense.

Yeah.

Of like AI stuff.

How do the Amish people know about zombies?

Yeah.

Well, maybe there's some explaining they do before it.

So they just think called zombies.

That's dead.

Yeah, but then you wouldn't.

Yeah.

But you wouldn't be scared to.

I saw a one, he had an AI video of cats in the Olympics and he showed it to an Amish person and it was all cats going off diving boards and doing flips.

And what's interesting about that one is the Amish person is not buying it one bit.

Looking at it, like, yeah, so what's this?

This is obviously.

And the guy's like, Look, you wouldn't expect a cat to do that.

Like, three flips.

Yeah.

And the Irish person is just like, yeah.

It's just in an apple shop.

Basically, sorry, it's in literal apples.

It's not a genius far.

They're actually selling apples.

I like that.

The apple store.

It's not the apple store.

It must have been on his year off.

Do not, yeah, yeah.

That's where they know immediately.

As soon as the first day of their year off, straight to the Apple,

their head starts vibrating.

If you took your laptop to the juniors bar and someone was dressed like an Amish person there, you'd be like, oh, I'm fucked.

I'm not going to get that up top back.

They're not going to know what to do.

Sometimes when I see AI videos, I feel like an Amish guy.

Because you think that's real.

I'm all for it.

Yeah, yeah.

And I have to check with Charlie what's AI and what's not.

I'd be like, come over here.

How can a horse be this small?

Come over here.

How can a horse be this

Right, well, then

I'm going to be dead in a year.

Yeah, because that's whatever.

It does feel like the worst game over for my brain, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah.

It's where when your parents send you one, you're just like, oh, I can't, we're different planets now.

Yeah.

Well, my mum got into like using chat GPT to make

like pictures of our cat, my cats.

and send them to me so she would just but she would just speak into it so it wouldn't look anything like them but she would just say like a sphinx cat next to a main coon cat, and it's their birthday.

And then she would send me, and there's two cats wearing party hats.

I don't know the my cats.

I'd be like, why have you sent me this?

She's just like, and she told me about it.

She was like, it's this website.

And you just tell it stuff.

Yeah.

I mean, it is exciting.

I got sent to my, my girlfriend's mum sent me a song about my cat that she'd made on AI where she just typed, she found an app where you just make sings you a song.

I've never used it.

It was really good.

I can't believe there's parents using AI.

I've never used it.

Yeah, I was like, and I immediately was like, I was making a Radio 4 show at the time.

I needed some songs in it.

And I immediately was like, what is this website?

This is incredible.

She didn't even write the lyrics.

She just said, there's a boy called Reese and he's got a cat called Tabitha.

She's a ginger cat and she's crazy.

Write a song about that.

And it was like a country and Western song that was like exactly the tune you'd expected.

Yeah, it was like a theme tune for the cat, basically, that it came back with.

And I also, it's like completely out of the blue.

You get that text from your girlfriend's mum.

So what?

Yeah.

I'm just like,

what do I do?

Thumbs up it and never reply.

I thought your cat, I mean, maybe this was a different cat, but I thought Bob Mortimer named your cat.

Bob Mortimer named my cat.

Tabitha Light Source.

Oh, no.

Okay, there you go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I know you expected sort of like Mike Twat or something like that.

No, no, I knew it was something like that.

It's disrespectful then to not say Tabitha Light Source every time you talk about your thing.

Yeah.

Yes.

Okay, fine.

Especially if you've got Bob Mortimer to name your cat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's quite a waste.

Yeah.

Yeah, it is a bit of a waste.

I suppose you go tab.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, fair enough.

Okay, Tabitha Light Source.

Tabitha Light Source.

And I'll release the theme tune.

Yeah.

So these buffalo wings.

Yeah.

Bad?

No, they're actually.

The food was amazing in this place.

So this place was a

like plastic red and white checkered tablecloth place.

And I actually don't think the food came in a basket, but if it did in that kind of diner way, it would not be incongruent with the vibe.

Yeah.

And I knew it as a place that my parents, it was like the place people went out at night, but I'd not done that.

Yeah.

But it was also the place you'd go in the day.

You've never been out at night.

No, I was 15, so I so I hadn't been in one of your past.

This is like the cool bar you could go to.

Doesn't make sense.

Yeah, it's the opposite.

Some of them are a swing and a miss.

You've got to accept that in the improv.

Sometimes he has to stop and wash the bottom of his feet.

Sometimes, though, it's not always on.

He's not firming them off.

You were metaphorically, you had the soap on toe.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, fair enough.

But it's,

but the food was amazing.

I would go there.

We'd go there every Saturday, pretty much, with my dad in the separation year.

Yes, the separation year.

Two or three of us.

Me, him and my brother would get it's such a dad separation sometimes you don't realize that you live in a stereotype until years later yeah you don't realize you're in a trope it's quite my dad my dad always used to take me to ed's diner oh dude it's too on the nose isn't it yeah yeah but it's good but it was good back in the day ed's diner yeah well it was also it was the first one wasn't it i used to go to the diner all the time in london when i first moved to london because it was like there was nothing except ed's diner there was nothing close to it and now that's sort of everything well there was smash burgers and stuff like that it's sort of every place back then there was ed's diner on i I think it was on Kings Road, and Johnny Rockets.

Now, Johnny Rockets was my favourite, but Johnny Rockets is gone now.

In Billy's, you had to sign a contract if you wanted a rare steak.

Wow.

What are you talking about?

What are you on about, mate?

I think this was the thing at the time.

It wasn't.

No.

It wasn't.

But Carrie.

No.

It wasn't a thing at the time.

The fajitas were loud.

The vibes were electric.

And you had to sign a contract if you wanted your steak rare.

Fajitas have always been loud.

Yeah.

Not as loud as this place.

What are you talking about?

I've never heard them louder.

not before not since i was going to do another attempted rhyme then and i could see that it wasn't blackass man gala as loud as that music not as loud as that music but louder than their fajitas would have been i'm not saying it's the loudest sound of all time i'm saying it's the loudest

loud you wouldn't know how loud the faheat is a black ass man gala how are they making the fajitas louder than other fajitas

good question plates hotter that's going to be louder bound to be louder

yeah the more wood you throw on the bigger a fire gets louder it is yes bigger plate massive plate of fajitas are you sure it's not because it's no further question was it the first time you'd heard fajitas yes so it's the memory it's the memory of them only time i've heard fajitas yeah yeah yeah really loud though never heard louder the first time you hear them in a pub as a kid

everyone stops everyone looks you can't believe how loud that thing is yeah yeah it's like it's a bit like when a sparkler is coming in like tgi fridays or something yeah yeah yeah yeah and the sparkler's in a thing and you're like what the hell is going on food shouldn't make noise like this yeah yeah and the fajitas is the exact same except there's no fire so you're like what is the source of this sound?

Was your dad trying to explain to you why him and your mum had split up?

But you couldn't, he was having to speak over the fajitas, son.

It is your fault

just for a year?

What's all this racket?

This is incredible.

Yeah, well, at the time, they didn't know it was just for a year, they didn't go into it going, let's do one year.

He's fully committed to like

stereotype.

I've moved.

I'm now your dad.

I see you on the weekends, and we either go to a football match or we go to the pub and we have always same starter, buffalo wings, best buffalo wings wings ever.

Yes, first ones I've ever had.

Also, the loudest buffalo wings I've ever had.

Nachos, classic nachos, really.

Got all the trimmings.

And then for a main course, I would have a no-kissing burger.

Sorry.

Are you doing that?

You were doing Billy's.

Yeah, Billy's.

I would have a no-kissing burger.

Not for this dream menu.

Not for this.

Don't want it for, just want the starter.

The starter is the wings and the nachos.

We do share that, the three of us.

I'm going to say if we're doing dream restaurant, I can have it over on.

I'll let my mum get back involved.

She's welcome back, actually.

But I don't think it'll be the same.

I think we're going to put our foot down and say that your parents are still separated.

For the start, fine.

Fine with that.

For the start, your parents are still separately.

Fine with it.

Got an iPod that year.

That's good.

So, you know, what do you mean by kissing burger, Reese?

It's a burger with caramelized onions in it.

So you shouldn't be kissing after it is how they were branding it.

What?

I would kiss someone after caramelised onions.

Yeah.

Not in Philly.

You shouldn't, mate.

Raw onions.

Raw, it's like a raw red onion or anything.

I'm just telling you the facts.

Yeah.

But do you believe me now that a restaurant that might call a completely fine to kiss burger and no kissing burger might have the loudest fajitas in the beers?

Yeah, I guess so.

And this is now possible.

This is a novelty restaurant.

Yeah, that's it.

That's a novelty restaurant.

Yeah.

And it was a restaurant I associate with kids cracking their head open.

Now, I think that's...

The problem with this episode is everything you say is another five minutes of chat.

I think that is that that is a thing that happened a lot and has stopped happening.

Sure.

When I was a kid, everyone was cracking their head open every day.

That's so true.

Every time you went anywhere, kids were running around and the parents weren't looking and someone would fall over and crack their head open.

Or knock a tooth out.

And I assumed skulls are made of nothing.

They are paper.

That's why, you know, I'm so cautious and I'm a dread guy because I'd see kids all around me.

Kids' skulls are opening.

And I'm thinking, well, I'm sitting still, I'm not going anywhere.

Yeah.

Do you crack your head open ever?

Never.

Of course not.

Never broke a bone.

Nothing.

Well, I'm worried about cracking my head open in the shower.

Of course, you should be.

Yeah.

You're on the cusp.

Yeah.

But now, my brother has kids.

I'm often at things where there's loads of kids running around.

No one cracks their head open ever.

Yeah.

Wow.

What's going on?

Have the skulls got thicker?

Do we think?

They must have done.

Are parents just more attentive?

It must be.

Maybe, yeah.

I cracked my head open.

How many times?

Once.

Trying to get away from my dad when he was washing my hands.

And

I slipped on the water.

Slippery hands.

You put your hands down.

Slipped on the water, slipped straight out of the door.

of the kitchen into the into the corridor, still flying, and then flew headfirst into the side of the radiator wow and then i stood up for fucking shook that chump sat down in the living room with my brother and sister my mum and everyone watching tv and then one of them i can't remember who went you've got blood pouring down the side of your head i was like wow what a badass so i have do you touch the blood yeah yeah so then you got to wash your hands again

yeah probably yeah trying to get away so yeah

broke my nose vision just went slowly red like the star of james bond yeah yeah exactly coming down your forehead Yeah.

Your dream main course, Rhys.

We have a lovely trip to Billy's there.

It's very nice.

I will have Biria tacos.

Okay.

Specifically from Big Feastival.

Have you ever performed at Big Feastival?

I have.

It's the worst gig I've ever done in my life.

Really?

Wow.

It was really, it was very far back in the day.

So now it's run by,

is it Alex James?

It's on Alex James's farm.

Yes, it wasn't, it was on Clapham Common when I did it.

And it was Jamie Oliver's thing.

Yeah.

And

they booked the comedy for when the gates opened.

And I was on first on the main stage.

On the main stage.

Yeah.

Absolutely brilliant.

Opening the main stage at opening at the moment the gates open.

Yeah.

So I could just see families coming in from a mile away and I had to beckon them forward to banter.

Great.

My God.

Really bad.

Impossible.

Impossible.

So when I say it's the worst gig, it's the answer I give when people ask me what's the worst gig you've ever done.

In reality, it was quite fun because it was impossible.

Yeah, yeah,

your ceiling becomes very different for what you imagine this gig can be.

Yeah.

And it becomes, well, this is 300 plumbers, so I'm happy with any laughs.

But we all have to do that.

We all get asked what the worst gig we've ever done is.

And we have to give it

basically the most entertainingly unplayable gig we've ever done.

Because actually, if we all just say, it's a gig I was really looking forward to and it really meant.

It went okay.

It meant a lot to me.

And they basically just didn't laugh.

And I just felt like fucking jumping off a fucking building after a gig where everyone it was all set up to be great and everyone else did great and i sort of did fine yeah they're the worst ones

i felt like shit those ones where something crazy happens and it's like well this was never going to be more than a four out of ten and i kind of got it to there yeah that's being like well whatever great funny you switch it off yeah loved it yeah so that's what i want yeah

and i'd love actually if this is the dream restaurant to be able to watch that before i have this absolutely because when i had this natasha beddingfield was just there singing unwritten as I was eating this.

So that was pretty special.

Special for you?

That's pretty special.

That is the dweebiest thing anyone to ever say.

But she was miles in the distance, so I could only sort of hear it.

I had had a fantastic sex, a great comic.

And I was also, I was in a comedy tent.

Yeah.

And it's like a proper festival tent.

And so, and it was like really busy and nice.

Yeah.

So just after Marcel Lucon.

Yeah.

We.

He had talked about wine quite a lot because food festival.

Yeah.

I thought I've got no food stuff.

Did the Gouchon's joke, obviously, not insane.

Brought that back 10 years later.

Then mostly just bants and then got off.

And then they give you one food token from one stand, even though it's a food festival.

So it's like the whole point is go and sample loads of stands.

And I just said, what's the best one?

And they said, oh, that birria right there.

Everyone's just talking about that.

And I went there straight away and they gave it to me.

And they give you the dipping thing as well, like the thing that they make it in.

Yeah.

The sort of soupy thing that they cook beeria.

And they give you the dipping thing of that, some sort of pickled red cabbage on the side.

And then I was eating it.

And because I was doing it just outside the comedy tent, I was eating this and everyone was coming up to me out of the comedy tent going, we just saw you in the comedy tent.

That was it.

And I go, yeah, yeah.

You've got to get this.

You've got to get this.

It's the best thing I've ever tasted in my life.

Yes.

But do you think all the compliments made it taste better?

Oh, yeah.

I want to be complimented non-stop while eating it.

Yeah.

That's right.

While Ed diet on his arse.

Ed's dying on his ass over there.

Yeah, yeah.

Beddingfield's somewhere in there.

Smashing it.

She's smashing it.

Smashing over there.

Yeah.

And people are flooding from your stage to Beddingfield.

Yeah,

yeah.

Well, there was never enough people watching me at this gig for there to be a flood.

Okay, fine.

There's a stream of people.

Yeah, it's a trickle.

Even a stream, yeah.

It's a stream level.

Yeah, yeah.

There's a drip of people.

Yeah, a drip of people, yeah.

And they're walking past and they're throwing compliment to the dandy.

And then they're, I'm telling them, they've got to eat there.

They're going, we're going to go there later because your recommendations mean something to us.

And then they're carrying on to see Beddingfield singing.

What meat is it?

It varies.

I think I've only ever had it be beef.

I think it can be goat.

I think it's traditionally goat.

Yeah, I think it is.

But I've only ever had it be beef.

Would you have it if it was goat?

I'm trying to work out how adventurous you are.

I would, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I am actually quite adventurous.

The problem is, I went to Mexico at the start of the year, and my choice of birria is not from Mexico.

It's from Alex James' farm, which I do appreciate is mentor.

That's because I got really ill immediately in Mexico and didn't eat any.

Oh, mate.

I instantly, not instantly.

I had about five days in Mexico City eating everything.

But then one of those things was a street taco from a place called Jenny's Quesadillas, which everyone says, you've got to go to Jenny's Quesadillas.

It's the best thing in Mexico City.

And so we did go to where it said that was on a map, ate there.

We're like, everyone, there was horrible.

The food was terrible.

It just seemed impossible.

The whole thing just seemed implausible that this was like a recommendation from people I know.

Yeah.

So we were like, all right, let's not get a second one.

Went to a different taco place, like a bit more of a chain, but like that was really busy and sort of happening.

Started eating in there.

It was great.

While we were there, my girlfriend looks up the Google reviews of Jenny's quesadillas.

All the ones in the last like two months are like, this isn't Jenny's quesadillas.

Jenny has moved.

This made me the illest I've ever been in my life.

Oh, no.

So you knew it was coming.

So we've just eaten there.

And

I've written a dread memoir.

I am a dreader.

So I'm immediately like, my girlfriend's just like, ah, whatever.

Just like, we've, you know, it's either going to happen or it isn't.

Nothing we can do about it.

It's too late to like throw it up or anything like that.

So we're just going to have to try and enjoy ourselves.

I'm immediately like, I might as well be ill now because I can't do anything.

Yes.

So it might as well happen immediately because I'm just like so stressed.

I'm barely eating the thing in front of me.

I'm thinking, I don't want, I don't know what to do.

Oh, I am feeling it actually.

Now you say it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel myself immediately.

My tummy's bubbling.

and then, yeah, then it just went, it sort of descended from there.

And then it got to a point when I was like, all right, I'm going to the hospital.

Yeah.

It was because stomach, it was like stabbing pain in the stomach.

So this is days later, so bad that I'd be on the toilet at 3 a.m.

thinking, like put quickly, urgently putting towels down in front of me because I thought I will faint, fall off this toilet, and crack my head open like a kid.

I'm still scared of cracking this headphones.

I may as well be in Billy's, right?

So I was, yeah, running around Billy's like an idiot.

Yeah.

So I was doing that and I went to hospital, obviously language barrier, basically pointed at my stomach, stomach, did a thumbs down and was like,

and he just, I'd say within 10 minutes, he wrote me seven prescriptions.

He spread bet on what it was.

And one of them worked.

And then I was fine.

You're lucky that worked out, Bruce.

You could have gone under the knife, woke up with a fake six-pack.

Oh, yeah.

Like, like wrappers.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

This is this is all right.

This is bad.

I know just the thing.

I'll sort you out.

Spread bet.

He either has a stomach infection or he wants abs.

Yeah.

And we don't know which one, so we're doing both.

Let's have a little look.

Yeah, he needs abs.

Do you remember that man on Celeb Big Brother who had that?

He was a paparazzi guy.

He was like a huge guy.

Like he had Elon Musk's body, but he had a fake six-pack at the front.

But it was like, it was crazy.

He'd had it like put in.

But then if you like, just go, I'm just going to eat whatever I like.

Then do you end up with a big stomach?

And then does it push the six-pack to the front of the stomach?

Yeah, yeah.

So the six-pack stays there no matter how large this guy got.

And he's quite a large guy.

I love it.

It was amazing.

Wow, that's hilarious.

It was an extremely lovely thing to happen in real life.

Yeah.

It was fantastic.

And he had a big pink Mohican, didn't he?

I think

I only remember the six.

I remember people showing me the six-pack thing.

It was crazy.

This guy, he's fantastic.

I don't know who he is.

He's probably ethically all over the place because he was a big guy.

I imagine so.

He doesn't seem like a good guy.

I like him.

Not enough people get plastic surgery for a laugh.

Exactly.

You know what my dream is?

It's to disappear from the comedy scene for a while and come back with a BBL.

I would love to come back with a big fat ass and just be like, and not reveal it.

And I'd walk up to people face on.

yeah yeah and they'd be like oh i've just dropped something well every gig you'd have to come on right from the back of the stage yeah yeah and then your first big laugh you turn around to the side yeah yeah yeah yeah just turn around to the side knock over the mic stand accidentally on purpose to turn around to the side and then never never reference it well you'd have to do gigs out of the top gigs in like three-sided audiences so you get a massive laugh three times yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

that's the dream yeah so if ever you sort of don't hear from me for a while that's what i'm doing okay yeah well we'll know if you if you say like you know i've quit we'll be like, Reese's family only quit for a year.

Yeah, it'll be back.

He'll be back in a year with us,

he's healing is what's happening.

Yeah, yeah, he's healing the bum scars.

Those tacos sound great.

That's a great main course.

Very grown up as well.

Thank you.

It's still a sandwich, arguably.

Would you say a taco?

Oh, they see that.

Now, no, surely not.

Ooh,

I find interesting.

It's not bread, is it?

Has to be bread.

You're saying it's not bread?

Is it not bread?

What's a wrap?

Is wrap not bread?

Is rap not bread?

Tortilla is not bread.

Yeah, okay, it's corn.

Yeah.

But they also, with biria, which I don't think they do with other tacos, they dip it in the soup as well to fry it.

And they fry it in that, don't they?

And so the whole thing is just the most flavorful thing in the world.

It's crazy.

The dippers.

It's just so good.

But you can't really get a good one in the UK except from Big Feastival.

I think it's called Bab House, they're called.

I genuinely don't think you can get them anywhere else.

I think you can get other ones in the UK, though, that's good, not just at Big Feastival.

I saw you have Beria tacos.

Yeah.

At the Lone Star in in Buxton.

Yeah, that's in the UK.

And they were absolutely amazing.

Yeah.

And we were on the run.

And he only got halfway through them because we had to leave.

Did it feel better because you were on the run, though?

No, no.

It felt better.

That's a risky genre of food to go for on the run.

I thought we'd all chilled out for a bit.

So it felt better because I was like, we're all relaxing.

And

then we had to run back to the scout hut to get all our stuff.

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Your dream side dish, Reese.

Well, this is from Mexico.

Is it poopy food?

This is in the well in the the tech.

So a little bit.

My palate.

So we then went to Oaxaca City after Mexico City.

This is very, by the way, a lot of the things you've picked are way spicier than I thought you'd go for.

Yeah.

Well, you haven't had a lot of these dishes.

Well done, young man.

You're not going to like all this dishes one bit.

But towards the tail, I went to Oaxaca City, right?

And I'd been really ill.

And so my palate for Mexican food, also Oaxaca City is the home of mole.

You know, mole is like incredibly rich, often quite spicy, and the last thing you want if you've been shitting your brains out for the last week.

And my palate has changed to to not want the taste of Mexican food.

And now I'm in Oaxaca City, which is a city, but is much more of a remote feeling place than Mexico City.

They have a lot more traditional dishes and you can't get, it's not like being in London or Leeds, where it's all the same things you can have.

You can't get loads of cities.

It's not like London.

I've not been to Oaxaca City, but I understand it's not like London or Leeds.

It's not London.

It's not like the two most metropolitan cities.

It's between London and Leeds, yeah.

Oh, okay.

I thought you were giving two examples of metropolitan cities.

No, what I meant was you can leave London and go to Leeds and get all the same stuff.

Yes, okay.

But just different versions of the same stuff.

Five guys will be in both, for example.

This is not like that.

It's like leaving London and going to Oaxaca City.

It's completely different stuff.

And so I spot Oaxacca in London.

I'm struggling.

Yeah, it's not like that.

And it's spelt differently as well.

Yeah.

OAX.

But so what I did for sort of safety for a bit, but also because how my palate changed, I was like, right, I want to have pizzas.

So I would just have a pizza.

Then I found out there's a certain type of cheese in Oaxaca City that isn't pasteurized.

and so our stomach can't process it, and it made me way more ill.

Oh, wow.

The Oaxaca cheese.

It's illegal.

Yeah, Oaxaca cheese is delicious, but it's illegal to bring to the UK.

Is it?

Because it's not pasteurized in the right way.

And it can be, I don't know.

Right.

I can't know anything.

I have cheese.

I think you can get it in the UK.

It's America who have different rules on pasteurization.

Right.

You probably can't get it in America.

But either way, it was

fucking with me even more.

And I didn't know what was going on and why because I thought, but I'm playing it safe.

Then we went to this really fancy restaurant on the last day.

Also, my girlfriend's fine throughout all of this, by the way, of course.

Um, called Levundra de Hola, and it's really interesting, fancy Mexican dishes.

But I was really trying my best because it was the last day, and it was just like, whatever.

And this one that came out was just every type of tomato in Mexico.

And they came over, and it was like, it's the most amazing plate of food I've ever seen in my life, even though it's just tomatoes, which you think.

I had a plate of water, yeah.

But I mean, it was the freshman.

They were on a was it in a panini?

It was that that they weren't hot.

Then shut your mouth.

Secret ingredient.

Hot tomato.

They were so amazing.

And

there were green ones, there were red ones.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a blue one on there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would be.

Yeah.

No, there wasn't a blue one.

They came along and they were like, those ones will be sweet.

Those ones will be sour.

Those ones will be in between.

They were just describing, and with better language than that,

yeah, yeah.

But it was basically star mix, but for tomatoes.

I see.

You know what I mean?

I was like, I had a whole.

Is that how they said described it to you as well?

These are tank fastics.

They took a look at the tickets.

They took one look at you.

And they went, I recognise him from the packet.

Yeah, exactly.

And then it was on like a underneath it was like a beetroot puree thing that was also quite sweet.

And just every single one, like, you know, then we're having fun because we're going, what's your favorite one?

Oh, I like those ones.

Oh, you, and they also.

The fact you have to say that about your girlfriend.

We were having fun.

And then we're having fun

because we manufactured a conversation about the dish we were eating.

What's your favorite one?

Hello, darling.

What's your favourite one?

My dad took me to Billy's every Saturday.

Yeah.

He said, What's your favourite wig?

What's your favourite wing?

What's your favourite?

I know me and you aren't together anymore, but we can still have fun with food.

And then, but they're all different shapes as well.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Some of them were flower-type shapes.

What's your favourite shape?

Some of them were circles.

What's your favourite shape?

Favourite flavor.

Yeah.

And then some of them were little tiny, little tiny sort of pellet-sized tomatoes.

Yeah.

Some of them big.

It sounds genuinely incredible.

Would you like to see a picture?

I've got a tomb with lots of tomatoes.

Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Is this going to be a joke?

Not a huge dude.

Cracking his head open at Billy.

Wow.

That is beautiful.

Real nice.

Yeah.

That's what it looks like.

I'm into it.

Bonito loves it.

Absolutely amazing.

Yeah.

That's what I want as a side dish to the.

So Mexican-themed, but only one of them actually from Mexico.

Your dream drink.

Kel's orange soda.

Yeah.

Finally, someone picks this.

Finally.

No one before?

No one's picked Kel's orange soda.

I don't know whether I want to be Kel for it or not.

I don't know.

His life seems pretty stressful.

But this is a soda that has defined a man.

Yeah.

His one character trait of this guy is he likes this drink.

And he thinks he's dead all the time.

That's in real life.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah.

If you have him on.

If Kel's dead.

If we have him on.

If you have him on this.

If you have him on this.

What drinks is he?

We can't have him on.

He's dead.

He's died.

He hasn't died.

That's like the Frosty's kid.

Frosty's kid, that your generation?

Frosty's kid?

It's a tiger, race

it's the kid who was in the gonna taste great advert remember him yeah right gonna taste great yeah i do remember everyone said he's dead killed himself that's what everyone said at school he said he got so much abuse of people taking the piss out in the playground saying he's gonna taste great that he took his own life that's what people said at school and then then another rumor went around like no he just moved to south africa wow

That's what went around my school, yeah.

It must be the same as the Kel one that Kel's dead.

That must have gone around school.

Yeah, I mean,

Kel's being dead.

Yeah, it does the rounds every couple of years.

Yeah.

Every couple of years.

Still.

People still going about Kel's being dead.

But it's getting to a point where it's not that, you know, he's getting to an age where it's not that shocking.

No.

And

the real sadness is that Keenan's on TV all the time.

Yeah.

So we can never, we can never suggest it.

Well, Kel's an addict, remember.

He's addicted to this orange soda in his life.

So he is.

He's let it get the best of him.

And that's why I would like to experience it as me first to be like, is this man insane?

Then I'd like to be kel because i just to love anything as much as he loves this thing yeah i would love to

it's certainly eccentric he's not like uh he's a he's a bit bonkers

yeah so like you gotta take it with a pinch of salt expect it's gonna be like i mean it does look like a brighter more vivid orange than any other orange soda i've seen doesn't thanks jamie oliver

he paid to that in this country didn't he yeah the sunny d days growing up it feels like a sort of it's similar to those sunny d kid?

Look, I don't think I was allowed Sonny D.

I wasn't allowed Sunny D.

I wasn't allowed to watch 15, then I wasn't allowed Sunny D.

I had one sip of Sunny D once, so I thought it genuinely tasted like piss.

I wouldn't, I didn't go near Sunny D after that.

Really?

It did taste delicious.

Only issue was I tasted it.

It was horrible.

It was amazing, but I would not have been allowed that.

I think I loved the Florida one.

There was Florida and California flavours.

Of course, you know all the different flavours.

But like, we had to really pester our parents for a long time before we got a Sunny D.

And even then, it was like, okay,

one a year, like you're not having another, like, right, like, that's not, we're not going nuts with this.

This is crazy.

I would have been the same, I think.

Yeah.

Same with, yeah, things I pester my parents for are that.

And can I see Austin Powers?

For the purposes that I

spent begging my parents to let me do.

The first one or the second one?

Don't know.

I think when Austin Powers first came out, I would have been the absolutely, there's a thing in the book about how much I used to lie specifically to my friends about how I've seen bits of Austin Powers.

Yeah.

Because they would go, oh, have you seen?

I'd go, yeah.

And then they'd go, have you, oh, this bit when he goes that?

And I go, oh, yeah, I've only seen bits of it, and that's not one of the bits, even though it was only out in cinemas.

You sent them to TikTok.

So, exactly.

I watched it in YouTube shorts.

But it was only in cinemas.

So, you know, if you see a bit, if you've only seen bits of it, then you've run it out of the cinema every five minutes.

Yeah, that's good.

So it makes it the light never held up.

But I would have done the same with it.

I would have been like, oh, Sonny D's well nice.

Yeah.

Because I would have saved face non-stars, still that, but I would have saved that.

I've never had those tomatoes in my life.

But I would have saved them.

Oh, I've been done by AI again, haven't I?

Oh, yeah.

There's only one type of tomato, Ed.

Chat GPT.

Show me a plate of lovely tomatoes.

Chuck a blue one in there.

Kell's orange soda, though, I feel like.

I think you do see that colour orange in different countries still.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Well, we've talked about Nigerian Fanta on the podcast a lot.

So it's probably that, isn't it, effectively?

Yeah.

It's probably unbranded for the sake of Nickelodeon.

It was the colour of the Nickelodeon logo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Was Keenan Nikola on Nickelodeon?

Is this all going to be a secret brand tie?

Because it was a.

We've been duped by a secret brand tie.

Yeah, it was definitely on Nickelodeon because because they had the Nickelodeon.

Yeah, they said that Nick the Nicknick thing in their theme song, didn't they?

Yeah.

Filmed in front of a live studio audience.

I feel like it was then just straight into nick, the nick, nick, the nick, nick, nick.

Yeah.

It's the same colour as the Nickelodeon.

I can't believe we've been duped.

This has turned into a whole different podcast.

Oh, my God.

This is an investigative podcast.

Yeah, this is this American life.

We've been changing to this American lifestyle podcast.

What do you imagine it tastes like?

Or do you just want you want to be that passionate about something?

I do want to be that passionate about something.

I want to love something as much as Kel loves that orange.

Oh, Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you've got a girlfriend.

Yeah.

It would be psychotic.

Yeah, to love her as much as Kel loves that girl.

That would be wild.

Really?

Yeah, I've got my girlfriend just running around screaming about how much you love your girlfriend to everyone.

Yeah, I feel forgot how much Kel loves orange shows.

Yeah, when people love another person, they say I do once.

Kel says it six times every time he asks him.

I do, I do, I do, I do.

Imagine saying that in your vows.

If you married Kel, you'd feel so disappointed because he would just go, yeah, I do.

If that guy's married, he must.

There's no way he didn't do that.

He can't do words.

I would imagine his partner had a word with him beforehand and went, please don't be mad.

If I was marrying him, I would do it before he could.

So he's like, you get the laugh.

Oh, yeah, that's better.

If when they got married, his partner did it.

Yeah.

Great.

Yeah.

Everyone would be like, that's funny.

Keenan

in the aisles.

Yeah.

If he does it, it's like, oh, no.

Keenan was probably the celebrant.

Wow.

Best man minimum.

Best man minimum.

His catchphrase was why?

Was it?

I never really watched it.

Watched it all the time.

So it's this show.

There's a guy in it.

His main thing about him.

I like the front of curtains stuff.

They did front of curtains.

They did front of curtains by Mighty Bush.

Very.

Well, no, no, it's a musical tradition.

My first time I saw it, Mighty Bush.

Yeah, I think it would just be.

It just must just be really sweet.

It'll send you mad as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I like E-numbers and like just like,

yeah, yeah.

There's a real chance I'm cracking my head open after drinking it because I'm sprinting around.

Oh, yeah.

I think that'd be a good thing for you.

Crack my head open.

I think you've just got to get it done and then you won't be scared of it anymore.

Yeah.

I'm breaking a bone.

I'm the same.

Never broken a bone.

And do you feel like it's holding you back?

I worry about it every day.

Does it stop you doing certain activities?

Like, what?

What am I doing now?

Bungee?

No, I wouldn't do bungee anyway, stupid.

Skydive?

Wouldn't do it anyway, stupid.

Also, if I'm doing a skydive, I'm not worrying about a broken bone.

What are you worrying about?

Well, if I hit the floor, it's not just going to be my bones that are broken.

I've broken my bones.

Oh, oh no, no,

no, I've broken my toe because I landed from a plane jump.

Okay, fine.

What about certain sports?

You wouldn't want to do them anyway.

No, you could break a leg playing football.

Yeah, but I wouldn't do that anyway.

I think his mate staggered and didn't play football when everyone else was playing football.

I was injured.

I do what?

Uh, deadlifting.

Oh, so you would deadlift?

I would deadlift, but how are you going to break a bone deadlifting?

Lift it

too hard,

drop it, drop, lift it wrong, move weirdly, quickly decide to wash your foot while you're doing it, drop the weight on your toe.

I do, but the idea, I don't worry about doing things because I might break a bone.

I worry about what it would feel like if I broke one.

Yeah.

I don't think I'd be able to cope with it.

It's bad.

I think it feels bad.

Yeah.

Have you ever broken a bone?

Scrapped your head over.

I broke my arm when I was a kid, pretending to be a zombie walking down the stairs.

Armish?

Scaring the armish.

Just scaring the local Amish people.

How did that happen then?

So you, and you fell

out.

Pretending to be a zombie.

We've not heard this before, have we?

And then

I fell down the stairs, broke my arm because I didn't.

And you would change how my arms were.

You committed so hard to the zombie that you didn't move your arms to anything.

If you went method.

Yeah.

But the whole point of like arms is that it breaks your fall.

So you want to get them out quickly.

If you're going to fall, you want to get your arms out quickly.

Exactly in the position they'd already have been.

Yeah.

But you don't start with them like that.

Yeah, but you've got them locked and loaded, ready to go to break your fall.

He broke his arm.

Yeah.

He did, in the army.

I was too young to understand what the term break your fall means.

I didn't even remember it.

I just told it.

It's like, I've never seen photos of myself with a broken arm as a little kid and had to ask what happened.

What was going on there?

They were like, you had been a zombie.

So he broke your arm.

Yeah.

That's the only bone I broke, so I think.

Yeah.

Yeah, there was just like, it was always, it always seemed like, and this probably isn't true and is another fake school memory, Always seemed like there was like a kid at school who had a bone sticking out of their leg.

So I don't mean generally.

I mean, it's like, have you heard?

Tristan fell over this morning and broke his leg and the bone, the shin sticking out the top of it.

And that would just go around.

And then what would happen is you'd imagine that and make the thing you imagined your memory of it and think, I saw that and it was awful.

So now I know that can happen, even though it didn't and it was just a fake memory.

I think I have said this on the podcast before, but I'm going to say it again, just in case.

My mum, you know, that thing of if you don't make that stupid face, if the wind changes, it'll stay like that.

Yeah, my mum for a long time was like, that happened to a girl at my school.

Wait, and but genuinely believed it.

Yeah, she was like, let herself believe it into adulthood.

She went, she we all broke up for the summer.

We came back and her face was different because the wind had changed.

And when, at what point did she clock that it was.

I don't, I think she's still probably slightly.

You've taken the piss out of her for it, but she still harbors a belief that that's real.

You don't want to believe it.

You don't have to, but it definitely happened.

Like that sort of thing.

I love that.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

Eyes go square in front of the TV kind of thing.

Yeah.

That would be crazy, wouldn't it?

It would be brilliant.

When I was told stuff like that, I would think, this would be amazing.

I'd be the only one with square eyes.

Everyone's going to think I'm so cool.

Really?

Yeah, but oh, cool.

This has got square eyes now.

I wanted braces when I was a kid because I thought braces are sick.

Braces are so cool.

But it's because I was 10 and teenagers had braces, I think.

If there was a teenager, you've never had square eyes.

I did have braces.

I did.

Yeah, straightest teeth I've ever seen and how did you feel when you got the braces i protested and said i like my teeth as they are i like looking distinctive did you yeah but it was a lie i did the last thing i wanted to do was stand out right at that time once i've become a teenager but i just was scared of getting the braces on so i just said got some good news for you you still look distinctive

yeah yeah

yeah they've maintained but they didn't finish he said it was never finished he i kept breaking it because i would chew pens and stuff and i would always break the brackets off i got to 18 with them on wow or like about to be 18 in a week or something and then he was just like i'll just take them off yeah this they're good enough i'll take them off but he did say they're not done yet yeah and i'm sort of like what what else can you do yeah i mean you're straightest i've ever seen they are straight but i think they stick out a bit like that oh is that what i think must be that so you can't see it from the front it's like Brazilian butt lift.

You've got to turn to the side.

Turn to the side.

All my secrets are revealed.

If I turn to the side, you know everything about me.

Yeah.

As long as I'm face on, you're ceiling.

I'm concealing a lot.

Your silhouette when you get that butt lift.

It's going to be crazy.

Teeth poking out in the front like a beak.

Buttlift.

I just look like a duck.

That's just exactly.

I've got the exact silhouette of a duck.

People go, that's the...

Everyone says there's comedians who have a distinctive silhouette.

But only side-on.

Yeah,

normal default guy.

That's me.

Side-on.

duck.

Everyone says right.

That's what I'm saying.

So my Richard Osmond's House of Games thing, you're like, that could be anyone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But suddenly, if you, but a hole in the wall,

it's got to be a duck shape or I'm not getting through it.

Your dream dessert, Reese.

Well, look, I want butterscotch angel delight, but there was a David Tennon had that, and there are loads of people about that, so I won't have it.

I'll have another thing that I used to have a lot when I was a kid and that I invented, and that is oven Yorkshire puddings.

Oh, god, here we go.

Oven.

Is this the secret ingredient?

No, Ed famously doesn't like Yorkshire puddings, hates them.

Yeah, so you've got a lot to do here.

You hate them on a roast or or something.

Yeah, but I think I'm going to hate them here as well.

But carry on.

May I introduce you to someone called Aunt Bessie?

Okay.

Yeah.

Little packet of oven Yorkshire puddings.

They're sort of like smaller than hand size.

Yeah.

Three of them, scoop of vanilla ice cream in each,

golden syrup over the top of them.

And on the side, I want a punnet of glasse cherries.

So you invented this?

I started this.

Has it got a name?

It's a Dutch baby.

Look it up.

Benito, look it up.

Dutch baby.

Dutch baby.

Look up, Dutch baby.

Dessert.

Dutch baby dessert.

It's a Dutch baby.

Well, it's similar.

Carry on.

Is it all similar?

Yeah.

Don't mind.

So I didn't.

So I did invent it.

Well, the cherries and the maple syrup, I guess,

you'll throw it.

Golden syrup.

I'm talking Loyal's paint tin of golden syrup.

Yeah.

That takes ages to drip on the thing.

Well, it takes ages to open if you used it once.

Yeah, exactly.

Because what's in the tiny seal?

It's a shelf test.

Yeah.

It's a seal.

It's resealed itself and it's completely stuck to the back of it.

Benito, look up Dutch baby.

And I.

glassy cherries.

I'm not putting them on top, but I'm just doing Glassday Cherries as well.

He's doing it.

I do want to check because I think I might be wrong.

I think for me,

I'm a dessert boy.

I love desserts, but this sounds terrible.

I was very excited at the Yorkshire pudding with the ice cream in it.

And then, when you added the syrup and the cherries, I thought that's.

Cherries are not on it.

Cherries are aside.

Cherries are on the side.

You're eating them.

I'm eating them, but not at the same time.

Pop a cherry while I wait for the Bessie's.

First, Bessie down, palate cleanser.

Second bessie down no i don't need one for this time and then i'll finish the ponnet afterwards glasse cherries are the most delicious thing that's ever been invented and all food should be glaced i do like glacé cherries i do like them i like the my favorite i don't know what the cherries are that they put in cocktails i like those ones yes they're better that's glacé isn't it no glasset ones

you're thinking of like glasset ones are the ones that are on top of a bake well tart yeah that's what i'm getting at and that's what i would have in the angel of delight if i had that buttons got that and i'd have like hundreds and thousands or something like that but is this a dutch baby Dutch baby pancake.

Yeah, but that's

pancake.

Have I said the word pancake at any point?

I don't think so.

Well, what do you think Yorkshire pudding is, you absolute moron?

It's pancake batter.

It's pancake butter without sugar in it.

Oh, we're back to is this a sandwich, are we?

Oh, is this a pancake?

No, this is what I wanted to check.

Oh, you know what?

I'm going to have on my roast.

Oh, yeah, I'm going to have a lovely joint of beef.

I'm going to have carrots.

I'm going to have potatoes.

Can I have a pancake on there?

Pre-smell love.

Has anyone ever ever seen?

Will you just read out the first paragraph?

I'll never read anything.

A Dutch baby pancake, sometimes called a German pancake, a Bismarck.

I'm not saying that.

that's genuinely a slur a hooligan or a hooter nanny is a dish that is yummy no read out the line similar to a large yorkshire pudding thank you doesn't have ice cream in it you can put ice cream on it oh wait so sorry

i'm not claiming to invented the yorkshudding the last time i had a dutch baby i had ice cream on it i didn't say that saying

well don't stop burying the headline here ed had a dutch baby and he came to hate yorkshire puddings oh the dutch baby lover yeah i had it because i was with chloe pets and she wanted to have a dutch baby did she even read what the description of what it was or did she just go Dutch baby having that?

Dutch baby having that.

Yeah, fair enough.

It was at One Club Row, which is an excellent restaurant, and it was quite different.

Oh, I have it there as well, actually.

Yeah.

Oh, and I've had that, and it's nothing like this.

It's nothing like this.

I've had that.

I got the Dutch baby there for that exact same reason.

And when I got it.

Sorry, so you have had a Dutch baby?

Yeah, this is great.

Yeah, but there's nothing like what this is.

But the base is a Yorkshire pudding.

This tastes more like...

At Mr.

Wong's in Melbourne, they do deep-fried ice cream.

I'm sure they do this loads of places.

It's the only place I've ever had it.

And it's like a ball of ice cream that is in batter.

Sydney.

Is that in Sydney?

I think so.

Could there be more than one?

There definitely could be, yeah.

Let us find out.

We Google Dutch Baby.

We can Google Mr.

Wong.

South Acton.

It's in South Acton.

Sorry.

Mr.

Wong's in South Acton.

Oh, no.

You've got to keep yourself in.

You've got to keep yourself in.

That skin you've got to keep yourself in.

He's going to be in this episode.

Well, me quibbling over where Mr.

Wong is.

Anyway, yeah, it's so yeah, it, but they also the ice cream fills the so the Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire puddings have like a the valley of them is very uniform because they're frozen Yorkshire puddings that you heat up and it's just like the exact size of a scoop of ice cream.

Yeah, that's cool.

So it completely fills it and then you can you know, I was knife and fork actually, I think, for this in a bowl, chasing it around the bowl.

Sometimes, you know, if I felt like it, I'm having it like a sandwich.

Yeah.

And yeah, I will accept that it's a sandwich,

even though it's hinged at the bottom.

The most incredible flavor.

It's got to be basic vanilla ice cream, like the most basic possible.

I tried it with that Madagascan Cartador one.

It's too bougie.

Oh, really?

You can't have the bougie ice cream with it.

It's got to be like basic, like supermarket vanilla, cheapest one.

Yeah.

Tupperware that might.

Yeah, yellow.

Yeah, like kids want it.

The flavor is yellow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's perfect.

Because the flavor is coming from the syrup, really.

Or that ice cream, there's some ice cream that's so bad that it's vegan.

but it's not accidentally vegan.

It's not like this is vegan ice cream, it's just it's marketed as ice cream, it's not marketed as vegan.

There's just so little in it that it's just like, yeah, this is vegan.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

I mean, that one tends to be like stark white, yeah, so white.

It's called like Swedish block or something, yeah, awful, very disappointing when you're an ice cream-addicted kid, and then you get given that, and you're like, here we go, best part of the day.

What the fuck is this?

You've got Swedish block, Swedish block, and your Dutch baby.

Yeah,

we're back in the EU.

Back in the bloody EU.

That's why we left because of all that red tape from the Swedish block of the Dutch babies.

People in previous generations had too many bad experiences with desserts and weird definitions of them.

What is a pancake then?

And we just went, forget it, let's get out.

If they'd said that in the campaign, I'd have voted leave.

If they told me that, if I'd had this conversation where you've accused me of stealing from the Dutch.

Yeah.

It's a Dutch baby.

It's not a Dutch baby.

It was a Dutch baby in that one restaurant.

That says, Wikipedia says a Dutch baby is just the Yorkshire pudding.

I did not say, I am Aunt Bessie.

I said I've invented

this combination.

All right, well, I hope that after this podcast has gone out, people shout Dutch baby at you in the street because I think people who haven't listened to the podcast will think it's an appropriate insult for you as well.

You do look like a bit like a Dutch baby.

You could be a Dutch baby.

Yeah.

You've got to admit.

I've had Harry Bo Kid and Dutch Baby.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dandy.

Not called you a ghost the whole time.

Yeah.

Get called a ghost sometimes.

He likes to call me that, yeah.

He likes it.

I do like it.

Victorian ghosts.

He called me ghost of a boy who died in a coal mine when you

ghost of you when you died in a coal mine when you were 12.

Yeah.

That's what he called me on national television.

Quite complicated, but it made the edit.

Demo he did as well.

He didn't want to have to talk about Jeremy Corbyn.

Jeremy Corbyn comes up, picture of him.

We've got nothing to say about that.

He goes, we look like brothers.

We are like brothers, don't we?

10 minutes of the show down.

That's all in the edit.

Loved it.

I remember the Corbyn years.

Always straight into something about someone on the panel instead.

Yeah.

Victor and read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it.

You would like, you're going to be double parked here, the San Pellegrino and the Aquapana.

Yes, please.

The water daddy.

Poplums or bread, you want the chili cheese toast from Deshum.

Starter, Buffalo Wings and Nachos from Billy's in Harpington.

Main course, biriotacos from the Bab House house at the big feastival.

Side dish.

Waxaken tomatoes with beetroot puree from

Levundre de Ola.

Levundre de Ola.

Drink Kell's orange soda.

Yeah.

Dessert.

Free Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire puddings.

A scoop of vanilla ice cream with golden syrup and glassy, glassy cherries.

Glace cherries.

AKA.

A Dutch baby.

No.

I'm so happy about the menu until then.

It's a really nice menu.

You happy with that?

Did it match expectations?

Hand on my heart.

Even just before James read it out, I would have said it's going to be a bad menu.

Having sat through it all.

Yeah, having sat through it.

This will be terrible.

Really fun chat, but very chaotic.

At no point during it did I think Rhys is doing a good menu here.

Yeah.

And it's been read out.

It's really nice.

Apart from the starter.

The chili cheese toast.

I don't know.

I love the wings and the wings and nachos.

I bet they're great.

They're lovely.

Sometimes you just like.

It sounds gross.

I love fake American food.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You've got to be out of baskets.

Yeah.

Oh, you won't like it because it's nostalgic for us because our dad's left.

Oh, yeah.

I need for a bit of my back.

My dad's still around.

Shout out to you, big guy, if you're listening.

Reese, thank you so much for coming to the dream restaurant.

Thank you for having me.

And thank you you to my dad for coming back.

Thanks to my dad as well.

It works out fine in the end.

Thank you, Rhys.

Thank you to your friends.

Well, thank you, Rhys.

Thanks for coming on.

Thank you for coming on.

Thank you for wearing a tux finally.

Yeah, actually.

Yeah.

It was nice to have this podcast showing the respect it deserves by a guest finally.

Your little tux looked very nice.

The sort of one you could put on a ventriloquist dummy.

Yeah, and like, look, I don't want to be rude, but he looks like one.

We didn't roast him this much on the episode, huh?

We didn't even roast him this much when he was here, yeah.

Yeah, well, he could, yeah, he's a very quick-witted man, yeah.

Yeah, it's best to just do it from a distance.

Yeah, I don't want to know that I'm going to get roasted in return.

He's probably going to say some really co-really horrible stuff.

But this way, we're safe.

So much easier to bully someone when they're not in the room behind the bomb-proof glass.

We're fine, he can't get us.

Uh, Rhys, of course, did not say Rhys's pieces.

No,

I wouldn't have expected him to.

No.

Actually, maybe.

He could have written a joke about it and goes, I'm going to say Reese's piece.

I mean,

make the dessert all about my name.

I think he would have been out.

I don't think it's out of the question.

Shame.

Which means we can promote his book.

Yeah.

You'll like it when you get there.

Available now.

We're promoting it.

We're promoting it, Reese.

He's a brilliant writer.

Look, the book's going to be fantastic.

Yeah, it will be.

Go and buy the book from wherever you get books from.

Yeah, yeah, it's up to you.

It's your business.

Audiobook as well.

Yeah, you can listen to him.

Yeah.

He's got a lovely voice.

He's a lovely voice, yeah.

So if you want to hear that voice for six hours, I guess.

Yeah.

Get to get the audiobook.

I'm touring Europe in November, America in February next year.

Pop yourself on to my website, edgamble.co.uk.

Okay.

And go and buy yourself a ticket.

I'll do it.

Thank you for listening to Off Menu.

Goodbye.

Bye.

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Oh, hi, James.

Have you heard the news?

Oh, yeah, go on.

You and I are modern boys because the Off Menu podcast is now on YouTube.

This is embarrassing.

Why is it embarrassing, man?

You love YouTube.

I love watching clips on YouTube.

Sure.

Now people can watch clips of Off Menu on YouTube and full episodes.

But it's embarrassing, man.

It's not embarrassing at all.

It's really cool.

We're on YouTube with the great and good.

The coolest people in the world are on YouTube.

Me, you.

Logan Paul.

Who's Logan Paul, the dad from Succession?

At Off Menu Podcast.

That's what Benito's calling us now.

And we're on TikTok.

This is embarrassing, man.

It's not embarrassing, man.

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We're like Olivia Rodrigo.

And Ed.

People have been asking us, badgering us, bothering us, actually.

They want to watch the Stephen Graham supercut from the Stephen Graham episodes.

They can see all of his reactions to us, everything that he did.

Or Benito has bent to their whims, and he's going to put it on YouTube.

He's going to do it.

Follow us at Off Menu Official on TikTok.

At Off Menu Podcast on YouTube.

You can watch clips from the podcast.

and on YouTube, you can watch full video episodes.

People have been asking for it, and you're finally getting it.

Full video episodes.

So you can see every single nuance on our little faces.