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Welcome to the Off-Menu Podcast, taking the baked beans of conversation, the little sausages of humour, and putting them in the can of a podcast.

Sausage and beans in a can, James.

Oh,

you're in the factory making these?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The factory of the factory of humour.

This is the first time we've ever had a factory introduction.

Normally it's when they're cooking it.

When someone's about to eat it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're working in the factory now.

Yeah, I'm working in the factory, mate.

Because the way this country is going, we need to remind people of the working man.

Yes.

Industrial revolution.

That is a gabble.

My name is James A.

Cass, and together we own a dream restaurant, and every single week we invite in a guest and ask them their favourite ever start and main course dessert, side dish, and drink.

I want to say drink, yes.

Not in that order.

This week, our guest is Jillian Anderson.

Jillian Anderson, James.

Whoa, I mean, international treasure.

Yes, international trash, absolute ledge.

It's pretty exciting, pretty crazy.

Obviously, you know, an icon as Scully on x-files when we were growing up but now an icon all over again yeah with sex education yeah the crown um also some really exciting projects coming up that we're excited about tron ed tron aries yeah i'm glad you said it because i didn't know how to pronounce that I'm assuming it's Tron Aries, unless it's Tron Ars.

It's not like anyone who doesn't say Rs.

No, Tron Aries, I'm going to say.

It's an anagram of arse.

Yeah.

But

yes, I'm excited about it.

So at the Tron films.

Tron Arse.

I'm going day one.

Yeah, yeah.

Day one, I'm going to see Tron arse.

Yeah, it's completely normal.

Everyone's in normal

the world, but all of their asses are like computer generated.

My asses have been Tron.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, no.

And Tron are butts.

Yeah.

What are we going to do?

Yeah, I'm not going to be able to do it.

I'm glad we're getting all this out of our system before Jillian arrives.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's good.

But it is exciting.

It's an exciting film that's coming out.

Loads of great people in it, including, of course, Jillian Anderson.

Yes.

Hassan Minaj is in it.

We met him.

Yeah, we met him.

We met him and awarded seven money.

He's very hungover when we met him.

Yeah, yeah, to be honest.

Yeah,

I would like to meet Hassan again and be sober.

Yes.

So that he thinks more of me because I've become a reprobate.

Yes.

Jeff Bridges is in it, of course.

The OG.

Yeah.

The OG Tron.

What about trespasses on Channel 4?

It's not just Tron.

Not just Tron, Ed.

There's trespasses.

Or trespasses.

When I was a kid in prayer, we said trespasses.

I went to a CFV.

Those who forgive us.

Those who trespass against us.

Those who trespass against us thingy.

Yeah.

Yeah, that one.

So we would go forgive us our trespasses.

Yeah,

forgive us our trespasses.

I would say forgive us our trespasses.

But then trespasses, surely, is like actually how you...

But I think this is called trespasses.

I think it's trespasses.

Forgive us who's indicted.

Yeah, yeah.

Trespasses.

Look, we've got things to ask, Gillian, but I think question one should be, is it trespasses or trespasses?

And what did you say in Sunday school?

If it's called trespasses, it might be about a world.

All of Jillian's things she's here to talk about are about bums.

Our arses have been trepst.

Anyway, she's also got a drink called G-Spot, James.

Oh, my God, Jillian, Anderson.

Which is nothing to do with arses if my reading has been correct.

Yes.

Apart from with men.

Yes, this is delicious.

It's a delicious drink.

A delicious non-alcoholic drink.

Oh, by the way, if me and James sound like we're out of sorts or a bit weird, weird, we're not in our usual studio today.

We're in a different studio, Spirit Land, because Benito's having the off-menu studio refurbed.

He's having a refurb.

And I saw the blueprints, James.

You know, it's going to be exactly the same, but he's having a glory hole put in.

Benito.

You naughty little boy.

We are giddy.

We are like little kids on a school trip.

Yeah, we are.

I've just had a coffee.

We can't believe we've been allowed here.

Yes, Jillian has a drink called G-Spot, James.

It's a fresh alternative to the high-sugar sugar caffeinated drinks that dominate the market.

I tell you what, I think we're sounding like we need that at the minute.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, we need an alternative to high sugar caffeinated drinks because we are all over the place.

We're buzzing off our wangers.

Yeah, we're 40 years old.

We're buzzing off our wangers.

39, thank you.

Please don't wish my life away.

It's coming for you, Ed.

I know that.

I'm not stupid.

Listen,

enjoy those months.

Yes, I'll let you enjoy those months.

Thank you.

We love Jillian Anderson.

Yes.

We're only going to kick her out the dream restaurant if she picks the secret ingredient.

That's what we tend to do.

Yes.

And

normally we say the secret ingredient together, James, but I don't really know what it is, so you're going to have to read it out.

Yeah, because it's quite long.

Yeah.

Secret ingredient is non-fat tofuti rice dreamsical.

And that's something from the X-Files, yeah.

Season six, from the episode The Unnatural.

Scully is eating a non-fat tofuti rice dreamsical, and Mulder is making fun of her for it.

Can I check something?

Yes.

Someone else has suggested this ingredient to you.

My partner.

Your partner.

Who loves X-Files.

And now you're reading what it is off a photograph where she's written it on a card.

Why didn't she just text it to you?

She had written it down while watching the episode on a post-it next to her and then just took a photo of it and sent it to me.

Okay.

So she's watched this episode recently?

Yeah.

Okay.

Cool.

I don't think Jillian's going to pick that, which is good.

Well, she might do.

You never know.

And my partner's very excited that Jillian Anderson's in.

So am I.

She was her first female crush.

Can I tell you what happened when I told my wife that Jillian Anderson was coming on?

Yeah.

She simply went like this.

Wow.

Yeah.

Wow.

Well, I mean, we can tell Jillian Anderson all this.

We can see, can't we?

We'll see.

We'll see what the vibe's like.

And you can watch this on YouTube from tomorrow.

So listen to it and then watch it.

Sure.

Listen to it.

And you you might think, hmm, what do they look like when they say those things?

Yeah, I wonder if what I imagined in my head is the same as what actually happened.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like, you get points, yes, for how close you were.

Yeah, and then Benito will send you a signed chopping board.

If you, if you, yeah, if you get the most accurate imagined version of the podcast, yeah, and you've got to be honest about it, yeah, do a bit percentage, yeah, percentage.

You can say, I imagine like this percentage accuracy, yes, like 100%.

This is the off-menu menu of Jimmy Julian Anderson.

Welcome, Jillian, to the Dream Restaurant.

Thank you for having me.

Welcome, Gillian Anderson, to the Dream Restaurant.

We've been expecting you for some time.

Exactly.

Do you have questions about James's absence there?

Yes, no, no, no.

No, I was prepared.

Yeah.

A little bit of googlage.

Yeah, yeah, you've got it.

Googlage and listening edge.

Yeah, listening edge to other guests.

I don't think I've ever heard the edge, uh, edge added to listening before, but it works for me.

Listening.

Listening edge, I like listening.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's good.

I'll start using that.

I might come away from this as talking exactly like you, if that's okay.

Why not?

Why not?

It's, you know, you're a cool person.

Thanks, man.

A lot of people think you're cool, you know.

Pretty much everyone.

Yeah.

How's that feeling?

Not so sure about that.

But

everyone I've said to you, we've been interviewing Jillian and Ansony, which was like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

Everyone thinks thinks it's cool.

I'll take that.

I don't know how you expect Jillian to react to that, James.

I want to know what it's like to have everyone think you're cool.

One day the shoe will drop.

Yeah.

That's.

I know.

But also, everyone thinks Jillian's cool.

Sure, I agree with that.

But imagine if Jillian was like, yeah, everyone does think I'm cool.

Then immediately

of course.

Yeah.

Yeah, then you stop being cool, don't you?

Yeah.

If you're arrogant about it, duh.

I don't know.

I'd like that if you were like that.

Yeah, yeah.

If you were bringing dir back, if I was bringing dirt back.

Yeah, yeah.

I think that's great.

Bring dirt back, I reckon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think Clay Eilish tried to bring dir back on that song.

It kind of worked for a little bit.

Wait, which song?

Can you sing a bit to me?

Duh.

She has that.

It's Bad Guy, that Bad Guy song.

How else does it go?

Oh, God, I don't really like singing it.

I'm so scared of singing that.

And I think Jillian goes duh on that.

But I've made it it sound like something of Nell's house party.

That one.

That was almost

crowded housing, billy.

It was a bit like something.

It sounds like Nell's house party.

Well, it sounds like something that should be on a 90s, like Saturday night show.

What I just did.

Like a Chuckle Brothers theme tune or something, rather than Billy Eiland.

Chuckle Brothers.

You got to know about Chuckle Brothers.

Are you kidding me?

This is a huge moment in podcasting.

Oh, dear.

You and me get to explain to Gillian Anderson who the Chuckle Brothers are.

I can't believe that.

I mean, they would have been at their peak at the same time as X-Files.

So maybe.

I've never thought of them like that.

No, they were, though.

So they were 90s.

Yeah, so there's a chance that they passed you by because you were very busy during this period of time.

I was.

I was also living in the States.

Yeah, you're in the States.

They don't sound like they were in the US.

They didn't make the crossover.

They didn't make the crossover.

They're sort of like Robbie Williams.

They never managed to break America, sadly.

Yeah, and they're a couple of monkeys.

Yeah.

Or Jimmy Saville, fortunately.

Yeah, thank God.

Oh, yeah.

And thank God.

Yeah.

The Chuckle Brothers, they were children's entertainers.

They had a show called Chucklevision.

Okay.

Where they would just like get up to hijinks.

They'd have a new job every week and it would always go wrong inevitably.

They had a catchphrase, which was to me to you, normally when they were carrying something, to me to you.

Okay.

One of them is sadly passed, but another one's still trucking.

Yeah.

And there was always like...

I think there was two bosses.

Yeah.

And one of them would say no slacking to them if they were being lazy.

He'd go, no slacking.

Yeah.

Like that.

And as kids, we all loved the Chuckle Brothers.

They both had little mustaches.

Yeah.

So that's who the Chuckle Brothers are, Jillian.

They do Panto quite a bit.

They used to do Panto quite a bit.

Very similar, actually, if you ask me, to Tron.

Another great link from

cinema soon.

Did they have light cycles?

Yeah, they had light cycles of the Chuckle Brothers.

But one, they had a tandem.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, I'd love that.

Chuckle Brothers got a got in Tron.

That's exciting.

What was it like when a franchise that you've seen for years?

Because like Tron, even though there's been, I think, only two films, this is the third one.

Yeah.

But like, it's still like such a huge part.

And like, you, you know, you've remembered the first one.

Yeah.

And now you're getting to go into that world.

What's that?

That's pretty cool to be, yeah.

Because, you know, you get, you get a phone call.

I mean, you know, proverbial phone call every once in a while.

And sometimes it's like,

okay.

And sometimes it's like, yeah.

So it was kind of like, yeah.

What was the phone call like when you got offered this podcast?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

A bit of googlage.

Yeah, better googled.

It's all good.

Yeah, pretty fucking cool, actually.

Yeah.

To be asked to be involved in Tron.

And also,

aside from my own fandom or whatever, knowing that it was

that they were throwing a lot of money at it.

And

I'm a big fan of Greta Lee, who's in it, and Evan Peters.

And, you you know, it's got Jared Leto, it's got a good cast.

And

it lives up to it.

It really lives up to it.

It's really good, actually.

You've got to throw a lot of money at Tron, though, haven't you?

If they're, you can't skimp on the budget for a Tron film.

Because, because, you know, science fiction, sometimes there's the other version of it, which is it can be rubber bands and glue and cardboard, which has its charms.

Has its charms and makes it, you know,

adds to the cult appeal.

So it could be that.

But in this instance, it's many many multiples of millions yeah high-end high-end sci-fi yeah yeah yeah and we've been debating uh how to pronounce trespasses is it trespasses or trespasses what would you say the show that you're doing on channel four because in in prayer time as a little kid at school i'd say trespasses yeah that was what we were taught to say but now if i say it on its own i'll say trespasses i've just never said it on its own i've only said it in terms of asking God to forgive me.

And all of your trespasses.

And everyone who trespasses against me as well.

Yeah.

Or that I will forgive them.

When you started talking about prayer time, it's very early for this as well.

Gillian looked at me in the way most guests look at me at some point during the episode where they go.

It's quite early.

Who the fuck is this guy?

Yeah.

I think I probably say trespasses, whether I say it.

during my morning prayers or whether I say it

on its own.

I think I say trespasses.

Just to reassure you, I don't do prayer time anymore.

This is when I was a little boy and it was having to do it.

Yes.

you ever thought about taking it up again yeah yeah many times i thought about taking it up again do you think that would answer some of the you know

huh

big questions the the the issues

the issues

you think prayer time would answer some of my issues

that's what i think yeah well no i'm just thinking about your comments at the beginning about him not uh not really being happy about anything yeah yes yeah yeah

That was before we started recording.

That was before we started recording.

Oh, was it?

Oh, sorry.

How did you phrase it?

Not to like repeat it or anything, but what did you say?

He's never excited about anything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So maybe if you started prayer again, you get excited about things.

Yeah.

I could pray to be excited.

You could.

Please, God.

Please, God, make me excited.

Yeah.

And forgive those if I took it against that.

One of my drinks out there is called Arouse.

That'll get you excited.

Oh, yeah.

I should sink a big can of a rouse before I let that happen.

Prayer.

Just have some G-Spot.

Anyway,

we're drinking G-Spot, which is your drink.

I'm drinking Lyft.

Yeah, I'm drinking Soothe.

None of us picked Arouse.

I've gone for Soothe as well.

I should have got Arouse, really.

Yeah.

We can do something about that.

I don't want to drink Arouse while talking to Jillian.

I've never met Gillian before.

I don't want to risk anything.

Bonito's got a big can of a Rouse on the go, actually.

No, it's another soothe.

He's soothing it as well.

It'd be fun to say he's got a Rouse.

Especially because he's got a laptop on his lap.

We'd know if he was drinking a rouse.

Well, presumably, the laptop would be on the ceiling.

Oh, yeah, word for bad.

Oh, that's a compliment.

It'd be funny, buddy.

It'd be through the fucking roof.

You can't be happy with that.

You had to refurb another studio.

Good stuff.

And obviously, we know that you're a fan of food and drink.

You've got your own drink,

as well.

So normally we'd ask people if they're, you know.

if they're foodies, but I guess.

I'm sort of a foodie.

Yeah.

I mean,

I'm one of those people that could literally eat the same thing every single day for a year if I like something.

I'm not really that fast.

But I do, and I don't really cook.

I cook for my kids, which makes me happy.

That's cooking.

So you do cooking.

Yeah, I do cook, but I'm not very good at cooking for anybody else, like for guests and whatnot.

What's your speciality that you cook for your kids?

What's your kids' favorite thing on your repertoire?

One of them likes chicken wraps very much.

Like he could eat that every day for a year.

I'm imagining a little Kurdish Sanders.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I do, you know, it's just, it's, you know, sometimes it's salmon and kale and sweet potato.

And sometimes it's...

It's a healthy kids, man.

Yeah.

You're Jillian Anderson's kids, man.

Yeah.

We think they're going to be eaten.

They're healthy kids.

That's what I cook.

I cook,

you know, some form of protein and vegetables, really.

It's what it is.

Classic.

Classic.

yeah sometimes curries but you know i don't make it from scratch no i'm not one of those people you're ordering it in no no no no i make it i just use there are these great um like massaman curries that are frozen they're actually frozen uh they're on like popsicle sticks what yeah it's odd have you ever considered during the summer just getting one out the freezer and eating it like a popsicle i have not no

but you add you know you add coconut milk or or coconut cream and you start in, and that's

what I do.

Better than a jar.

For some reason, it feels more.

Feels like you're doing something and you're cooking something.

It feels more natural that it's on a lollipop.

Somehow.

I don't know why.

Tell you how you find curry in the wild.

Tell it grow.

Yeah, he'd pull it out of the corner.

He's funnier than I thought he'd be.

He's a funny guy.

He's a funny guy.

How funny do you think he was going to be?

Like one of one to ten.

I thought maybe a seven, but he's he might be like a nine.

He's nine on a bad day, this guy.

That's amazing.

It's my job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

That was fucking offensive thing.

Anyone's ever said that?

At least it was that way around.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

To be fair.

Yeah.

People turn up disappointed.

Yeah.

He's way more miserable than I thought he was going to be, actually.

Yeah.

Because

I don't, you know, I think it's quite annoying if a comedian tries to be funny as soon as they meet you, right?

Outside, I was like, I was like, turn it down, turn it down.

Hello.

Thank you for doing the podcast.

Got I'll tell you your eyes, you're thinking about it.

You were very dry.

Yeah, yeah.

Very dry.

Yeah, you should have come in.

So it was a manipulation.

You shouldn't have come in with like a clown.

Yeah, he was hustling you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was hustling.

Yeah, it was a hustle.

And I apologise because that was dishonest of me.

Yeah.

Well, we always start with still a sparkling water on the podcast, Jenny.

Do you have a preference for your dream meal?

I do.

Thank you for asking.

Sparkling, please.

I mean, obviously G-Spot's sparkling.

in.

It is, yeah, because

I like sparkling.

You do like the bubble, yeah.

I do.

They're not meant to be good for you, though.

They're not meant to be good for your gut or your teeth.

I've heard this, but we've got to, we've got to just relax, haven't we?

Come on, we've got to have some fun now and again.

Yeah, push the butt out.

Yeah, have a bit of sparkling water.

You can't walk through life going, oh, is this good for my teeth or not?

Just get stuck in.

Yeah, yeah.

We've heard it not being good for your teeth on the podcast before, but I haven't heard someone say about the gut thing.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's, you know, or the air just the air in your gut yeah what the it's not good for the air it's not no it's not good for the air is not good for your gut oh the air is so don't breathe

don't breathe is the vibe maybe in the bubbles maybe something to do with the bubbles in the bubbles not the extra the extra air not all the air in the world i actually don't know what the fuck i'm talking about i'm just i'm making it up i just i'm sorry look this is modern podcasting we can just say something anything and pretend that it's really

and will be the biggest podcast in the world or or or politicians Yeah, exactly.

Just make it up.

So

as we go along.

Ed is worried that now that

the air in general is as bad for your gut so you can't breathe.

Yes.

So that's going to be stress for him now.

So well done.

That's Ed for ages now.

Every time he breathes it, all scared.

But you say it's the bubbles get in.

I don't know.

And then pop.

I say, I don't know what I'm talking about is what I say.

I believe you though.

Yeah.

I believe you.

I think you'd know.

But regardless, yes, they are sparkling because I like sparkling.

And also, they all have an apple base because I mix apple juice with sparkling water in my life.

Yeah.

Just at home, you do a little, what are your ratios there?

Oh, good.

Very good question.

It's important.

Yeah.

Half and half, probably.

It should probably be a quarter to three quarter

heavier on the water.

Sure.

But it depends.

Over the years, you've like gone up with the apple juice, I imagine.

I actually am more likely to have more apple juice while eating a meal

and more likely to have more water in between.

But I shouldn't be having either.

Really?

You shouldn't have apple juice either.

Well, you shouldn't really have apple juice.

No, there's so many things that are bad.

You should.

Well, no, no, no, but you, I know, but you should, you're not, you're not really

supposed.

I don't want to use the word supposed, but they say if you have fruit at the same time that you're having food, it causes fermentation, which is also not good for your gut obviously i don't listen because i i drink it with every you can ferment your gut yeah oh my god although some fermentation is good for your gut again i don't know what the i'm talking about i'm just saying yeah because i thought like fermented things yeah kimchi and that that's supposed to be good for your gut right it is but it's all the sugar that's in if you have a lot of right you know i'm sorry to draw uh an x-files like parallel so early in the podcast but you're like moulder and scully in one

You believe something without knowing it, and then you question it immediately.

That's not a copy meal.

It's like both characters walking around.

My girlfriend drinks a lot of apple juice.

Oh, really?

She, yeah, got to the point.

Now she doesn't have to ask me to get it when I'm going to the shop.

I know that she'll need a new, like, massive bottle of apple juice.

What brand?

Are you allowed to say brands?

Yeah, we are.

But, like, I actually don't know this one because it's like, I've literally got it so many times from the shop, I don't even see the.

Is it in plastic or in the glass bottles?

The glass bottle.

It's a glass bottle.

bottle you get a fancy yeah that's a fancy one isn't it that's a fancy one

capella no no it's it's big it's like a huge glass bottle you mean the big ones like that like martinelli's with the uh no but like is this it's quite a tall yes like big bottle yes it might as well be a wine bottle really right

like a magnum yeah and i i'm like that's always gotta be anytime i'm going out to get something i've gotta get one of those because she's guzzling that like

drinking it straight or is she she's drinking it straight she's not doing the

that's not for me she's not doing this it's like she may as well have like an adult-sized sippy cup like a little bit well that's it i think adding sparkling water to it makes it a grown-up drink it does whereas drinking straight apple juice 25

is your girlfriend five she's not just just to be clear when she was nine oh which is still better still to come yeah like uh

she told me

That when she's nine years old, she had her first crush on a lady

she's ever had in her life.

Can you guess who that lady was, Jillian Anderson?

Well, I hope it wasn't her mum.

I mean,

sorry.

Fingers crossed not over.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Why would I be frigging that up?

On the pod, guess what?

My girlfriend used to fancy her mum when she was growing up.

What do you think about that?

She loves apple juice.

Oh, she loves apple juice.

There you go.

It was you.

Oh, really?

When she was nine?

Yeah, when she was nine.

She remembers it very clearly.

She's telling me it was her first female.

She's

She's old now.

Yeah.

She's like in a late moment.

She's going to be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But

yes, you were her first.

Oh, and she knew she knew at nine that she had a crush.

Yep.

She was like, this is the real deal.

Yeah.

Right.

Okay.

Yeah, like this, this lady is like, I can't stop thinking about her.

Wow, interesting.

Yeah, yeah.

And what did your wife say when...

Oh, yeah.

I said, we're interviewing Julian Anderson tomorrow and she went like this.

Whoa.

So there you go.

Both of our partners are very jealous that we're speaking with you.

clearly yeah rather and apparently

my wife is like les dawson that was my impression yeah yeah yeah ex wife's quite grubby oh

did you miss les dawson

you know les dawson old comic old comedian

i'm gonna pick my references better moving forward

i'm learning I'm learning.

I don't know how much, how useful all the stuff you're learning is, though.

I do apologise for what we're filling your head with.

Pop it up, sobbed!

Pop dumbs or bread, Jillian Anderson.

Popadums or bread.

Definitely bread.

I love pubadoms, but bread's the real deal.

Not the real, that's not to imply that pubadoms aren't real, but I love I love bread.

Yeah.

I love a lot of bread.

Oh yeah?

Yeah.

I mean bread's bread's probably my favorite thing to eat ever in the world.

I could eat it all the time, every day.

All the time.

And do you?

Or is there, is this another, it's bad for the guts in our?

No, no, no.

I do.

I do eat bread.

I do eat a lot lot of bread what's your what's your go-to bread what bread is always in the house oh probably bagels oh nice yeah oh lovely we rarely get shout outs for bagels yeah

yeah this is nice that we get uh because like obviously we do this section every single episode yeah so it's nice to get a bread that we don't really see get enough praise i mean i like i like like a sourdough loaf like really crispy and and kind of white bad for your gut uh white flour on the inside that's really nice with a lot of butter or really good olive oil.

Yeah.

What bagels are we talking about?

What are your favorite bagels?

Usually sesame bagels.

Yes.

But you know, there's a big difference between, you know, New York is famous for their bagels.

Yeah.

And there's a bit like proper New York bagels.

They just taste different than other bagels.

And I don't know what makes a difference.

Well, we've had some guests from New York on this show and they claim it's the water in New York.

So

apparently the tap water in New york and the water they get is different to everywhere else in america it's like amazing water is it and it goes into the bagels it doesn't feel like it should be yeah but they say no isn't it full of drugs and that's why the bagels are so good it's full of drugs full of drugs

of course it would be

they say it's like it's from a a mountain spring yeah in new york city that's what they say susie essman told us that yeah Susie Esmond told us that.

Yeah.

She never mentioned that it was full of drugs.

She didn't say it was full of drugs.

I know, but if all those people taking drugs, prescription drugs, and, you know, the fentanyls of the world, are then peeing, you can't filter all of that out.

I hope you can.

Well, in Tama, are you saying every time we drink tap water, we're drinking pee?

Aren't we?

Hold on.

Hold on.

Are we drinking piss?

What are you saying, Liz?

We're just drinking piss.

No, but it's all going in.

No, no, no, but it all goes into the water and the filtration and the sanitation systems, doesn't it?

I mean, it's not all coming from London.

It's not coming from the glaciers where.

No, sure, but I'm but I'm assuming that they filter it well enough that there's almost no piss in it by the time I'm drinking it.

No, it's not.

Well, the piss is the least of your problems.

Okay, tell me more of my problems.

Well, the drugs and everything that's left over, because the particles of the drugs are smaller than the particles of your piss, isn't it?

It's all like drugs that was in your piss.

It's all piss drugs.

Jillian, how have you wandered down another blind alley where you're claiming to know the size of drugs?

How have I lived this far in life?

How have I survived?

I know nothing, and everything that I do know is bullies.

I would like it.

Me make X-Files and have it that Jillian just plays both characters, just one person.

It's just like, you know, that's piss, you're drinking.

No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

Piss.

Well, look, I'm only reporting what people from New York have said.

Okay.

That the bagels are better because of the water.

Okay.

And maybe that's because the bagels are full of drugs.

Yes.

Maybe there's like all sorts of drugs in there.

You've got the uppers, downers.

Could be.

All of it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It could be that there's full of drugs.

And they probably, all the drugs probably balance themselves out, don't they?

Because they're all doing different things.

Perhaps.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you're saying that like the uppers and the see, this is

we're really out of our depth because we don't, we're not very druggy.

What would counterbalance the fentanyl?

Well, what would cocaine do it?

Yeah, but cocaine, surely.

Fentanyl's a downer, is it?

And then

cocaine's an upper.

I don't know any of that.

Cocaine is definitely an upper.

Yeah.

Because I've spoken to people on cocaine.

But then prescription

down on cocaine.

There'd be like loads of antidepressants in there.

So that would be good.

Bagel cheer you up.

Bagel cheer you up.

Bagel cheer you up.

Because of the antidepressants.

Yeah, so that's nice.

Yeah.

Did you find that the bagel cheers you up when you have it in New York?

Um,

bagel

use that that as a sound on its own, buddy.

Cut that on its own and use it in various episodes when Gillian isn't even on them and have it just in between people talking.

Only if you're watching this episode will you be able to see that Gillian did a full 360 rotation?

Not 360, because actually when I got to there, my neck actually hurt quite a bit.

360 would be impossible, that would really be X-Files.

Yeah, that would be

full X-Files.

If you did that, I'd go, waltz, that would be X-Files.

So I could play the monsters as well.

Malta and Smelly and the Monsters with my well, it's a one-woman show, right?

So, yeah, yeah, full 360 of the head.

Yeah.

So are we giving you New York sesame bagel as the bread course?

See, I don't think so.

No.

Not based on what my mane is.

Okay.

So you like the sourdough?

No, it feels like it needs to be more.

I probably, even though

traditionally it wouldn't suit, it feels like it would suit for other reasons, which is a halal.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Lovely.

Yeah.

Yeah, we've had that chose on the podcast before.

I think Ben Schwartz chose that.

Yes.

Yeah.

What did De Niro choose as his?

Oh, you choose anything.

He chose whatever's good for every single course.

Yeah, we had to choose it for him because...

And you know what?

A lot of guests had a problem with that and were like, why has he not chose his own menu?

Why didn't he do the prep?

I think it's very insightful into the life of Robert De Niro that you just learn that what he does now is turn up at a restaurant and the people there just bring him out whatever they think is best.

And I think that's interesting.

Is that a truism?

Did he say that?

Yeah,

for everything we asked him, he went, I like whatever's good, good food.

And then we did have to say, Robert, we're going to be asking you the whole time what you want.

So just so you know, it's not an aggressive act.

It's just the

format of the ducks.

And the answer is always, why did Robert De Niro do that?

Is it Robert De Niro can do it?

Do what he likes.

Yeah.

And you can do what you like.

Yeah.

To be honest as well.

But we're glad you're picking something specific because that does make the chat way easier.

But there you go.

I mean, you must know some, like, some of those people, actors and whatever, who just turn up and they just go, just bring me whatever's good.

You must have met some people like that.

You don't have to name names, but like, you know, I'm sure you've come across.

I don't know if I do.

I feel like I've known a couple of humans in my life, not necessarily actors, who, you know, properly trust.

the people within the restaurant to make that decision.

But I think I'm too controlling.

I mean, you know, when you look at a menu, you are deciding what you actually feel like at that moment.

And what if they brought you something that you didn't feel like?

Yeah, absolutely.

I agree with you.

And I'm looking at a menu before I go into a restaurant.

Do you do that?

I look online to do my research.

Do you?

Yeah, big time.

Was that prior to doing this podcast?

Yes, prior to doing this podcast.

Yeah.

Kind of one of the reasons why we do this podcast.

Because we're both obsessed with food.

Already our personal.

Sometimes I'll be going to a restaurant and Ed's like, where are you going?

Right.

And then within, when I'm on my way to that restaurant, Ed text me what he would get at the restaurant because he's looked at the menu online and knows what he would get.

That's funny.

He can tell you

any menu of any restaurant in London.

Really?

No, absolutely not.

He can recite it.

Like Devin Brown.

I'm so interested in this.

So how often do you go out to eat?

Probably less than I used to.

Maybe a couple of times a week.

couple of times a week, but

for a special meal out twice a week.

So it's not really fun.

And do you try to always choose new places that you haven't been to before?

No, you've got to to go for the old classics sometimes it's like you say sometimes you're just in the mood for something certain so you know you go you go to the old classics but i do like trying new places went to a lovely restaurant this week i'd not been to before called a coco which is a west african inspired tasting menu restaurant right it was very very good was it yeah it was excellent he's the best at trying new places out of anyone i know he's the best at going to new restaurants all the time finding them telling me about them every time people ask me because i'll do this podcast yeah we're going we're in london for a few days where should we go and eat?

I'm like, here's Ed Gamble's phone number.

I'm afraid that that is who you need to see.

It's basically my job now is recommending restaurants to people in London.

Have you ever watched that documentary by the food critic in Los Angeles called Something Gold?

He was a famous, but he would travel all around LA and go to like mom and pop's restaurants all you can see the LA Times Chris or something.

I know

really good documentary.

He literally changed people's lives.

Like meant they could put their kids through uni and stuff because he would give a review of of just this tiny hole in the wall, Mexican or Cuban restaurant.

And next, the next week, they'd have lines down the block, they'd be swamped.

That's great.

That must feel really good.

I think probably my favorite part of doing this podcast is when we mention a place and then people come up to us and go, we went there because we heard it on the podcast.

And that must have been great for that guy if he's writing those reviews and then seeing that difference.

But also, he really cares.

He really knows his foods and knows the questions to ask about the ingredients.

Well, yeah, we know what that's like.

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Your dream starter.

Okay, so my my my main is pretty heavy.

Yeah.

So under normal circumstances, I don't think one would have a starter.

But you don't need to.

But

I'm gonna.

Okay.

Thank you.

So

I'm gonna have like a pumpkin soup.

Love it.

But a pumpkin soup with roasted pumpkin seeds on top.

Oh, yeah.

Delicious.

Roasted pumpkin seeds are very good.

It makes a really big difference.

Yeah.

And it has to be a little bit creamy, but not too creamy yeah yeah our friend josh whitticomb loves soup we learned this yesterday last night josh whitticomb's a comedian uh-huh and he loves soup he loves it and he has it before his gigs he goes to his tours yeah and he even turns up at his tours what do you think of this he turns up at his tours and he gets and his tour manager goes and makes him a soup what do you think about that wow it's all right for some isn't it yeah because because because josh says he's not allowed to use the uh the microwaves at the at the theatres because that that's for the staff at the theatre and the tour manager's allowed in that little room.

They're like the kitchen room where all the people who work at the theatre.

So where does he make him the soup?

In the microwave in that little room, in the little staff room.

So the tour manager is allowed to do it, but Josh says he's not allowed to use the microwave.

So he just sits in his dressing room waiting for his soup to be delivered to him.

Oh my goodness.

He thinks he's not allowed.

That's what he's saying.

But I reckon he is allowed to use the microwave.

He's just lazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you agree that there are two types of people in the world?

There are soup people and there are people who don't like soup.

I think that there's got to be.

And it's pretty much 50-50, I'd say.

Do you think?

Yeah, in the world.

Yeah, down the middle.

Some people will go, no, I'm not having a soup.

Yeah, no way.

I'm not touching a soup.

That's very good.

Not for me.

I tell you what, Ed, no, no slight on you as an actor because you were doing it alongside a professional there.

Yeah.

That wasn't very convincing of you, but Jillian, I really thought she didn't want a soup.

And then I remembered, I know for a fact she does like soup.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that was amazing.

Gillian's an amazing actor, you know.

Straight away, you're getting the parts.

I wasn't trying.

I'd not had a chance to prep for the casting or anything.

Okay, well, you know, use all the excuses you want, but the parts go on.

I'm not good in the room.

I'm happy to go on tape.

I'm happy to go on tape, but I'm not good in the room.

You're not good.

Are you ever doing self-tapes?

Surely you don't have to do that anymore.

Come on.

Surely it's been ages since you've had to audition.

No, yes, that's correct.

I don't genuinely, but if it was a fancy, fantasy director, yeah, and they weren't sure if I was right for it, I'd be happy to do it as self-tape.

So, who's the top director for you?

Who would you go on tape for?

Do you have a dream?

Let's say Paul Thomas Anderson or someone like that were were to say, look,

but I don't know whether she can do it or not.

We have a character.

I need to see.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

The soup painting character.

Soup Payton, Lindy.

You're straight on tape for PTA.

Yeah, that would be good.

That would be good.

Magnolia 2.

Yeah.

And one of the characters, their storyline is they just don't like soup very much.

And then that comes round at the end of the frog lands in the soup.

It's way less weird this time around.

The frog.

Remember that kid at the end?

He sat behind the desk and said,

something like, this happens.

Yeah.

This happens in life, or something like that.

Yeah, yeah.

He's thinking about the coincidences and things that happen all the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Go to tell his dad, you've got to start being nicer to me.

I tuned out when the frogs started.

It's brilliant.

Did that lose you?

It's ridiculous.

Huh?

I didn't like it the first time.

As opposed to aspects of the rest of the film.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The rest of the film I was on board with.

Right, all right.

But yeah, as soon as the frog, I was like, this wouldn't happen.

No way, Jose.

We all remember the ages, like, yeah, the age we were when that film came out.

Yeah.

it was like nothing we'd ever seen so like I remember watching that film and like loving the beginning so much with that lists all these different coincidences and a bunch of like short stories and I was so on board and thinking oh the ending is gonna be like all of those coincidences and then the ending is it rains frogs I was like what and I was really like I hadn't seen anything like that before yeah and then the second time I watched it because I couldn't stop thinking about Cloudy with a chance of meatballs it is quite like cloudy with a chance I guess nowadays kids

nowadays kids would have seen Cloudy with a Chance of Me.

Yeah, and they go.

But then when they grow up and watch Magnolia, they would be okay with it.

Yeah, they would be like, wait, so how old would you have been when you saw late teens?

Yeah, probably.

So what did you think of the whole Tom Cruise character?

Or any of it, actually.

I thought that guy's speaking a lot of sense.

That's what women are like.

No, I

thought, I mean, it was just like I was familiar with Tom Cruise already.

So I was like...

I've never seen Tom Cruise be like this before.

I thought, yeah, it's a pretty amazing character.

Also, I hadn't seen many characters that are just out and out, clearly wrong for the whole film, but also be painted in the end in a little bit of a sympathetic light in a way.

Yeah, I just thought it was a really different character to what I was used to seeing in films.

I only remember the frogs, really.

I don't have as good a memory as James, so I remember the frogs.

I've seen this before, but you remember food, I remember, I remember menus and the frogs, those are the two things I remember.

Yeah, I don't know how much you like eating frogs.

I have eaten frogs' legs in the past.

Yeah, I think they're fine.

I wouldn't go out of my way to get frogs' legs.

Right.

You know, chicken.

They taste like chicken.

They're chickeny.

They're a bit stringy.

They're a bit stringy.

Yeah, a bit stringy, a bit fiddly.

I'd say

you don't get a lot of meat on a frog leg.

No, you wouldn't.

No.

So I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't go out of my way.

I'd rather have a chicken leg, to be honest.

Would you have a licker frog?

I'd lick a frog, sure.

Sorry.

You know,

the...

drug the hallucinogenic frogs i mean i may as well lick a frog i'm drinking tap water yeah you know it's it's all the same thing.

Have a frog swimming around in some New York tap water and have a good weekend.

Would you like a frog?

I don't know.

I don't like hallucinating.

Have you ever hallucinated before?

I have.

I have quite a lot in my uncle.

I've just hallucinated.

Love seeing the old quick glance at the PR.

For the listener, I'm sat with my back

to the mood that Jimmy's PR is sat in.

So every now and again I get to see a lot of gloom.

I have hallucinated little glimpses.

Yeah.

Little look over.

But it's not even nice when it's not on purpose.

Like you can hallucinate on purpose and at least you know that, you know, I'm making a choice to hallucinate.

It's coming.

Yeah.

But then there's some times when you hallucinate and it's not on purpose and that is even breakier.

Yeah, I bet.

No, I'm not a I'm not a fan of hallucinating.

I've never really gone out of my way to try and hallucinate.

Yes, you wouldn't lick a frog.

I'd lick a frog maybe if it was a controlled environment and the guy who had the frog was like, this is what's going to happen if you lick the frog.

Yeah, and you knew it was a clean frog.

Yeah, a clean frog.

yeah but also like i'd be constantly worried it was a prank right like i was gonna lick the frog and then i'd go you can't believe you licked that frog

right

that'd be really like candid camera yeah exactly all of your friends standing around laughing at you yeah i licked a frog like curtains come up and it's my whole friends and family sat there but the prank is just that you they got you to lick a frog and then nothing happened yeah yeah yeah so that's worse i'd say licking a frog for no reason is worse than licking a frog for hallucinating what if you licked a frog and what you hallucinated was the prank show oh my god that's too much yeah yeah that's a film that's a film right there i think that's the truman show yeah yeah oh what what a film that is

if we're talking about if we're talking great films yeah the treatment show yeah oh my lord so good yeah i met natasha mcleholm once i just i just stopped talking about the treatment show doing a reading yeah She introduced me to her kids because her kids thought I was nine out of ten funny.

But like, so I had a photo with her kids, and then I saw that as a green light

talk about the Truman Show as much as I wanted.

Did she bring her kids when she did the podcast?

Because there was a watch on the podcast.

It was weirdly, they were there watching.

I've only been on the show, Have I Got News for You?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

But they went to watch, Have I Got News for You?

Because she knows somebody who makes it, and the kids wanted to come.

I don't know if it was because I was on it, that episode or not, but

her kids had

so like I got to meet them afterwards.

But then I definitely, one of those things where, yeah, you're the one that are coming up to being, hey, we're fans.

And then you go, I love the treatment show.

And you talk about it so much.

They're like, Goodbye, and then that's it, you've blown it.

So that's a shame.

Do you think she remembers that?

I bet her sons remember it.

I bet they're like, We're really excited to meet him, and then it turned out

to meet your heroes.

No, no, I don't think Natasha will remember that.

You can ask, Do you know her?

Your friends?

Uh, uh, I

do know her.

I do know her, but I probably wouldn't.

Let's can you put that sound from her?

I probably wouldn't text her

to say, yes, it's a bit much.

just wondering did you think he was as annoying

and also would you lick a frog you've got to finish that sentence

yeah good point and by the way

your dream main crossing you say this is quite substantial yeah thanksgiving dinner oh yeah that is american thanksgiving does that count am i allowed to do that yeah of course you're allowed to do that we haven't had uh english guests choose it yet.

Right.

Have we had an American guest choose

Thanksgiving dinner?

We've definitely had English guests choose Christmas dinner.

A lot of British Christmas dinner, but I don't think we've had the full Thanksgiving dinner.

So this is great.

Let's talk about all the components.

Yeah, there's lots of components.

You asked about sides.

It's all sides.

Yeah.

When you've got one big bit in the middle and then everything else is a side.

Yes.

It's, have you ever had?

a Thanksgiving dinner?

Once, but it's Canadian Thanksgiving.

Yeah, it's

probably quite similar.

Definitely the best turkey I've ever had in my entire life.

Oh, right.

I think about it all the time.

I have had Thanksgiving dinner once,

but we were filming a TV show and I was pretending to be a member of the royal family, so I didn't really get a chance to enjoy it.

Georgie Carlton.

It was being Georgie Carlton.

Yeah.

It was a show called Almost Royal.

It was me and Amy Hoggett were pretending to be 50th and 51st in line to the throne and we travelled around America meeting real people.

Like Borat,

like Borat, but kind.

And we,

well, we had Thanksgiving dinner with a family in a house in

Florida.

Oh, wow.

Did they serve you sweet potato mashed sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top of them?

They did, yeah.

Did they?

They did, yeah.

Now, I can't picture you eating that, Julie.

No, that's not how it's crazy.

That's not how I make it, but I figured, yeah, I figured that's what you would have been saying.

They did, yeah, like grilled and the marshmallows were grilled on the top.

Yeah, it was, it's crazy to me.

Yeah.

That I can't, I can't wrap my head around it because it's sweet on sweet.

It takes all times.

Sweet anyway, the sweet potato.

Hello, closing the name.

but very often people also add maple syrup to sweet potatoes even though they're sweet holy moly that's a just a surely yeah surely yeah you think so what are you having what's your dream thanksgiving dinner

and think about this yeah don't point to the guest james

who are your

if you if you're dream meal who's at the table with you oh well definitely my kids uh-huh definitely definitely my kids and uh and probably the rest of my extended family mum and dad and sister and her kids, and whatnot.

And

so, usually be a turkey and would be mashed sweet potato,

maybe a little bit of maple syrup, but it's not sweet because sometimes they're not sweet.

Sometimes, sometimes you mash them up, yeah, you put a little bit of salt and butter in them, and they're not quite sweet enough.

And you need to add just a teeny maple syrup, just so a little jug, maybe leave a little jug there for people if they want to sweeten it up even more.

No, no, no, I did control that.

Oh, sorry, I forgot about the controller.

Also, roast potatoes.

Is that normal on a Thanksgiving dinner or is this you bringing a little bit of a cat?

I don't know what normal is.

Okay.

Sorry.

That's good to admit that.

Yeah.

Not normal.

I'm good to admit that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know what normal is.

But so roasted potatoes sometimes in duck fat, but I'm not sure whether I prefer it actually.

As compared to that.

But definitely, well, as opposed to just oil, heating up the oil beforehand, and then rosemary and garlic garlic and that.

Duck fat feels like it's the special occasion potatoes, right?

Yeah, but then does it actually make them any better?

I think it does.

If you're using duck fat or dare I say goose fat,

it feels like they're crispier and they've got that sort of rich, luxurious taste to them, I think.

Right.

But maybe that's all, maybe that's all in my head.

But do they, can you...

You know how sometimes when you have a roast potato and it's really crispy?

Yeah.

Sometimes you taste it and you don't taste taste the oil.

It's just the crispy and then the hot goopie in the middle.

My fear is that duck or goose fat, you only taste

the grease.

Yeah, I think that's a good point.

I wonder whether that's to do with like the heat of it before you put the potatoes in, whether

there might be some cooking technique thing that changes that.

Oh.

So you just get, you just want the crisp and you want the hot goopie in the middle and then that's it.

Yeah, you don't want it to be dripping, drippy.

Yeah, yeah.

You can as long as you don't just taste that.

Yeah.

you don't want just drippy, drippy.

No.

You want crisp, hot, goopy.

Very glad we worked this out.

That's it.

Okay.

For the listener, Jillian's entire body language went towards Ed there, and I was outward concept.

Gillian trusts me on the roast potato.

Yeah, yeah.

She's got a lot of questions for you.

Jillian, I have a question for you.

Yeah.

Along with all the guests,

just for the dream meal, you can have three of your co-stars at the meal as well.

Oh, yeah.

Throughout your career,

three co-stars that you like

at the table for your dream Thanksgiving meal.

And this is no shade on anyone who doesn't get picked.

Three is a very small number.

Hannah Einbender, I just worked with.

Yeah, right, right.

I would pick her.

And I'd probably, and I just worked with Greta Lee.

I'd probably pick her.

And

I

would

pick.

Gosh, this is interesting.

How about Olivia Coleman?

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

What a life.

That's a nice act.

That would be a lot of fun.

I mean, I wish we had access to the inner monologue where you ran through people and went, no, not them.

I actually didn't land on anybody else in between.

But,

yeah.

I mean, those three are fantastic.

Yeah.

Coleman's going to be a laugh at Thanksgiving.

Coleman is a laugh, man.

She is a laugh.

She seems to be a laugh.

Like, doesn't seem to take anything too seriously when she's on press tours and stuff.

You know what I mean?

Like, she's promoting that film, The Roses, at the minute.

Yeah.

Her and Cumberbatch are just going around having a night jolly.

That's good.

I'll become hooked on all the.

I watch YouTube too much, Jelly.

And it's like a problem.

That doesn't surprise me.

Trying to put it down.

Yeah.

And like, I just got so into watching.

the two of them talk about the roses.

I don't know if you're ever going to see the roses, but like absolutely just love watching the two of them try and get each other's films get lines from how long are your hauls pardon me

when you go down a kind of question yeah i know exactly what you mean

but when you go down with what it sounded like a youtube rabbit haul how long do you do you wake up after how long and go oh my god i mean there's my afternoon yeah i don't know you know but like my screen time updates are getting longer and longer.

Each week it goes, you did, you average this much a day, and it's like are you watching on your phone?

Yeah, oh, right.

See, I'm I also watch a lot of YouTube, but I'll only watch on the laptop.

Phone screen too small for me to watch things on, huh?

Yeah,

I'm just on it too much.

I got absolutely addicted to watching videos of Dave Franco and Alison Briggs talking about their relationship

because there's so many different formats on all these different YouTube channels.

And what does that do to your relationship?

I think it makes it all.

I don't know.

Maybe it may.

I don't go back and go, you pretend to be, you're Alice and I'm Dave.

Yeah.

But if it's like that, but like, I don't compare, I think maybe I relate to their relationship.

That's why I like watching it.

I'm like, that's like us.

The way they call it.

Dave Franco watches eight hours of YouTube a day.

Yeah, he just watches eight hours of YouTube and Alison being worried about him and fancy Jillian Anderson.

Yeah, I mean they talk about their cats quite a bit.

We've got cats.

Right.

And I just like the way that they talk about

how they bet.

Because it's so ridiculous.

He's laughing, imagining, watching the video.

He's really great.

I was totally metting it.

Yeah, yeah.

I just say, yeah, I think they seem like good people.

All right.

I like watching them thinking, oh, they seem like good people.

You're too deep into this YouTube thing, man.

Have you ever met them?

No, and I can't now.

Well, we can't have them on the podcast now because anyone who is listening who represents them for PR stuff is...

Yeah,

he's a stalker.

Yeah, absolutely.

You're not.

You can keep them away.

Yeah.

Even if they came on together, that would be the worst, actually, if they came on together.

Yeah.

That'd be the worst.

I'd know too much about their lives, how they met, how they feel about each other.

It would be bad.

Even though she's called Alison Bree, which is perfect for a podcast about that.

Oh, my God.

Do you know Mr.

and Mrs.?

Were you feeling the...

They did that.

I've watched them do that.

Oh, they did.

Oh, I was going to say you could probably answer the question.

You could do Mr.

and Mrs.

for her.

Mr.

and Mrs.

and the creep.

Yeah.

And what does the creep say?

The creeps are full masks.

You'd be like a ventriloquist, damn it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You proposed well wearing a mask really yeah he did he wore a mask that uh he'd kept from when they went to new orleans together they met in new orleans

and so

jesus christ and then she was wearing like a mask at new orleans and then he kept that mask and when he proposed to her he was wearing it and uh she didn't she didn't like it she didn't think it was a great idea that he proposed like that but appreciates where his heart his heart was in the lifeline

i didn't hear a single thing you said there no no no, no.

I was like, I can't listen to this.

I've got to be friends.

I've got to be friends.

I think it's cool that I know that.

Yeah, yeah.

I think that one day is going to be played in a court.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It will.

So, can we talk through the rest of the components?

You've got turkey.

Yes.

You've got sweet potatoes, mashed sweet potatoes with a little bit of maple syrup.

A little bit.

You've got roast potatoes.

And with butter and salt.

That's all you really need, yeah.

And what and what else is on there?

I usually make brussel sprouts like a Jamie Oliver recipe with bacon and chestnuts.

But I don't really like them, but I make them anyway.

Okay.

You don't like Brussels sprouts in general.

Or you don't like Jamie Oliver's Brussels?

No, I don't like that.

I don't like them really in general.

But I make them because you're meant to.

And they're meant to be good for you.

And if you've only got a couple of green things and

usually green beans as well.

Yeah, nice.

Yeah.

Then there's a couple of dishes that are

that we've always had family dishes

like a pearl onion, pearl onion gratin, lovely, which is almost like a cauliflower cheese, but without with pearl onions.

Yeah, it's really yummy.

And it's got crumbled breadcrumbs on the top, and it's really delicious.

That's not good for the gut, though.

And there's

please.

It's Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving is the time where you give thanks for your guts by disgracing them, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

And then there's another one.

And i i have i have to say i've already mentioned this on a food podcast but it's what's what's another food podcast

there's no other food podcast what are you talking about no on jesse ware's food podcast i talked about i talked about i'm gonna puke i talked about this dish but it's a truism and i can't think of thanksgiving without talking about this dish so i'm gonna bring it up okay and let's see if we're the way we react is going to be way better than the way jesse and lenny ware react yeah here we go this is going to be good stuff.

We're getting ready for this.

Okay.

Here we go.

All right.

So you've gotten paler.

That's something.

I went to the Isle of Mull recently off of Scotland and we wanted to see wild ponies.

And there was a lady who could show us where the wild ponies were.

And she was walking up the hill with us and she said, What do you do for a job?

And I said, I'm a stand-up comedian.

She went, that's why you're so pale.

You're just doing...

locked up in all the clubs your whole life

right

and you're like no it's because i spend all all day watching Alison Bree on YouTube.

Yeah, that's why, actually.

Thank you.

Did you see the ponies?

Yeah, we saw the ponies.

It was great.

Yeah.

He is a little bit like a ventriloquist dummy, isn't he?

The way you're...

And his manner is not unlikely.

And the way you're...

Yeah, absolutely.

Very good.

Yeah.

Very good impression straight away.

Yeah.

This is

the master at work.

That's the clip.

Benito, we've got the clip.

That's the quickest anyone's done.

It's really interesting.

It's fascinating.

I don't think I've ever met a live ventriloquist dummy before you met jimmy carr

haven't you i have met jimmy you're right so i take

yeah surely that was an x-file jimmy carr

yeah if only popping out of a grave if only if only he was just an x-file and that was all he was that would explain everything

oh you mean a ventriloquist i think we did have a ventriloquist dummy uh episode yeah I'm sure you did.

You must have done.

How many episodes did you do?

There must have been a ventriloquist.

111.

Yeah, there must have been.

Yeah.

What's the one that gets brought up to you the most?

Because I'll tell you the one that everyone that I've heard everyone say the most to like watches X-Files and then like

they're like the scariest one.

They're like, I can never sit on the toilet again because of that.

That picture.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, the worm, the fluke worm or whatever.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

That's scary.

Tombs, surely.

Tombs.

Yeah.

And tombs.

Tombs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What one did you find most scary and like to film?

Like when you're probably the Jimmy Carr episode.

Coming up.

Out of the toilet.

Coming out of the toilet like that.

Oh, no.

Here we come.

Sorry, Jillian.

We had to ask you something else.

Then we asked you another question and we kept on pivoting.

What was the original question?

The side dish.

We were actually asking Dreamside.

No.

No, it was the...

No, we're not at some point.

No, we were at the side dish that also came up on Table Manners.

That's possible.

We were getting ready to react in a great way.

Unfortunately, we've just proved we are much worse podcast history than Jesse and Lenny.

Yes, I'm sure they didn't do that.

Go off on a Jimmy Carr tangent.

Okay, tell us, watch this.

Okay.

All right.

Concentrate.

Yeah.

Okay.

So it's, it's called, it's, we call it green glass jello.

Interesting.

And it's a sweet dish, but you have it on the plate, actually, with everything else.

Yes.

And it's got chunks of pineapple.

It's got lime jello,

cream cheese layered, right?

Chunks of pineapple, like crushed pineapple.

I think it might even have a lemon jello, too.

It's got all it's got different striations,

and it's delicious.

When you spoke to Jesse and Lenny Ware about this,

what was their reaction to that?

I can't remember.

Was it?

I can't.

No, you'll take it very seriously, and I really appreciate it.

But was it?

You are.

Can I tell you my initial instinct?

I think mine's going to be identical.

Gillian, that sounds absolutely fucking disgusting.

I know.

everybody thinks even my children think it's disgusting and why are we making this another year in a row and i'm the only person who eats it ah okay but it's you know it's it's um ingrained in my childhood dna did someone make this for you as a child yes yeah it was a family recipe yeah yeah that's i mean it really sounds like a family recipe yeah it does it found it sounds like a family recipe from the midwest of america truly it sounds like yeah wow and and it it is how many generations was this passed down like i don't know it sounds like something they'd call salad in the midwest of america oh yeah no you're right and would be on a on um iceberg lettuce yeah put it on there and call it call it green korean salad yeah

yeah that's my vegetable

how much are you eating of it when if you're the only one that touches it how much are you eating to make it like justify having made it a nice dollar a hockey puck

yeah there might be one other person i i mean if my parents are over

you know they will also have some it's just my my three kids that and it's going on the plate with the savory ingredients yeah and is it like

so does it get like gravy on it by accident and stuff does it like touch and that and that's good

yeah it is yeah

it is it's good because also on there are two different kinds of stuffings there's another family recipe which is a a um what's it called a chocolate and porridge probably not your family

He's done.

No, it's a

gallon.

Where's it just got out of my head?

It's a cornbread stuffing.

Oh, nice.

Cornbread stuffing.

My mum makes a rocking cornbread stuffing, which I make.

And then I also will do one with sausage meat.

Oh, yeah.

See, that's great.

Like

sage and apricot, sausage meat stuffing.

Really delicious.

Absolutely love stuffing.

But next to jelly, I don't know.

Yeah.

It's, are you.

Well, I mean,

What's it called?

The jelly side?

Does it have anything?

Well, we call it green glass jello, but only because

a green glass vintage bowl fell and it broke into the jelly.

That's nice, though.

Into the jelly.

Yeah, it was on top of somebody put it on top of the fridge.

They opened the fridge and the whole thing.

So from that point on, they called it green glass jello.

They didn't eat it.

Okay.

They just, yeah.

I like that.

I like that.

The name comes from something that happened in a family, yeah, because it's a family recipe.

Are you worried that the green glass jello tradition is going to stop now?

Because your kids won't eat it, so no one's going to carry it on.

It hasn't occurred to me, but I have a sister.

And she likes it.

And she has kids.

Yeah.

And she likes it, and she will pass it on.

Her kids like it?

Well, probably it's like pudding, right?

It's

like your kids don't like it.

Yeah, but mine are

late teens.

Oh, so many kids.

And they're British rather than, and my sister's kids are American.

And I can imagine the American kids being used to

that kind of thing.

The British kids aren't going for that.

And they're rebelling against.

As disgusting as I think it sounds.

Yeah.

Me, my brother, and sister would have wolfed that down.

Oh, God.

Well, no,

no, you'd have to rest a little for your dad.

Yeah, yeah.

But when you have turkey, when you have turkey, do you have like cranberry jelly?

No.

I can do.

Yeah, I have, I guess it's the same sort of principle.

It's the same sort of principle, yeah.

But you only have a little bit of the cranberry jelly, right?

It's just a little taste.

No.

Or, or like a schnitzel.

when you have a schnitzel, do you have the Lindenbury jam and stuff?

And that's that's chicken, that's it.

You know, it's like Turkey's chicken.

It's the same.

So that's your main course and all your sides.

So we get onto your jacket.

Wait, is that everything?

Hang on, let me think.

Okay, we've got a bit of green.

Yeah.

Bit of orange, a bit of white.

This is how you remember things.

You keep on the Irish flag.

Or Italian.

Um, what?

Uh

no.

Orange, not orange.

Red, red I think yeah

bit of red and the cranberry sort

there is uh wait there's something else there's something else there's something else oh well the gravy gravy is very important yeah now let's talk about when I say when I say gravy as a British person very different to what Americans might call gravy what do you call gravy well sometimes American gravy is like quite thick like it's very thick flour based

like a sausage gravy it might be like a white thick creamy sauce

but are you thinking of more more like a thinner meat jus sort of situation a meat jus yeah situation yeah yeah yeah nice and you thicken it up with a bit of flour but it's not yeah flour based it's not like a bread sauce yeah you're not spooning it on or anything no but a bit of red wine in there yeah nice yeah love a gravy so important and love a gravy too yeah very so important to really bring the uh jelly to life

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Your dream drink.

I wonder what this could be.

Were you waiting that?

You left that pause because Ed was drinking

water.

But that could have been a G-Spot you were drinking.

It could have been.

I'm happy to have a sip of G-Spot.

Yeah, go on.

Have you tasted it yet?

Oh.

I really like it.

Well, you have to say that, don't you?

Yes.

Yes, I do, but also i do yeah yeah yeah because it's a sparkling functional drink yeah it is yeah and it's given me a lift yeah it will it really will this one's red berries and and sarawak yeah you should know what sarouwak is should i yeah i've got absolutely no idea what sarawak is oh come on man

you're fired

he wrote uh what was the book what was the book what was the main book he wrote everyone goes on about it oh The thing is that for the joke to land, you do have to remember what the other thing so we can work out with.

Wait, who wrote a book about Sarawak?

Sarawak wrote all those books.

You mean Karouak?

Oh, sorry.

There we go.

Yeah.

Big thing about that.

If you said on the road, we would have got that.

I knew it had the word road in it.

And I was thinking, I'm thinking, yeah.

See, that's what I'm talking about.

I like the

herbaceousness of this.

And of course, Sarawak is a black pepper.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've just remembered that.

Says it on the cat.

And this one that I'm drinking is scarlet apple and sage.

But the functional ingredients are things like mushrooms, you know, like ashwagandha, chaga, yeah, raishi, cordyceps, that kind of.

Do you ever take those in in any form, way, shape, or something?

No, cordyceps scare me now because of the last of us.

Are they are there cordyceps in the last of us?

Yeah, that's what that's what that's what grows out.

That's what grows out of everyone when they turn into really scary mushroom zombies.

Oh, wow, I did, I did not know that.

That's the last thing that you need being bought up when talking about your drink.

Yeah, yeah.

Because imagine if G-Spot was the start of a zombie apocalypse.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

You'd have a lot.

There'd be a lot of blame at your door.

Yeah,

especially if the zombies of drunk aroused.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, God.

That's the last thing we want.

Oh, good lord.

That's a completely different show.

How did this start?

Drinks.

How did you, you know, did you think one day I'd like to start a drinks company?

Or were you getting interested in like all these different mushrooms?

Somebody in my life, my son-in-law brought it,

came up with the idea of me doing a drink, which I had no interest in doing at all.

But i was addicted to full fat coke i drank about five of those a day

and so the idea of finding something or creating something

that um that i might turn to instead of it that was uh also good for me and initially starting with the lift um something that would actually give me the energy that i was after all the drinks are caffeine free vegan, low sugar, all natural.

And

so creating something that I might actually become as addicted to as I was to the Coca-Cola.

And we've done that.

We're actually really, really proud of their flavours.

We work with a fantastic alchemist called Alchemist Company

in Stansted.

And he did Seed Lip.

Do you know the

works with botanicals and really mature.

nuanced flavors and anyway we're we're very happy with them and under normal circumstances wouldn't necessarily have chosen to do a drink, but the whole branding around the drink feels very appropriate given stuff that I've been doing over the last few years.

Sex education

and a book I did of women's sexual fantasies, anonymous sexual fantasies.

But the drink is actually not,

it's

G-Spot was chosen as much as anything because my name begins with a G.

Yeah, it's not a sex drink as well.

It's not a sex drink, even though we have an arouse.

Yeah, it's not.

It doesn't sound not sexual.

It's called G-spot.

No, but you, you know, you, you, you, what's your G-spot?

What's what's the place where you find pleasure?

And it can be in the drink.

You can find pleasure in what you drink.

If it turns out my G-spot's in a drink, it's going to be

a much easier time for everyone involved, I think.

If you just hand them a can.

Yeah.

So just shake that up a bit.

I'll be good as gold.

Could be in the next room.

Yeah, thanks very much.

Nice of you.

But it is delicious.

It is delicious.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It's very, very nice.

I really like the herbs in this one, the juniper and coriander.

It's very nice.

Thank you very much.

We're in Ocado and lots of places at Sainsbury's Ocado.

Harvey Nicks.

Harvey Nicks.

Harvey Nicks.

That's pretty cool.

And do you need

two guys for the advert?

We could be in an advert.

Yeah, you could.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What sort of thing do you think we should do for the advert for G-Spot?

I think you could say we finally found it.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's good.

It could be us looking for it in the supermarket or something like that.

Yeah, or in the bushes.

Yeah, in the bushes.

Ben made that joke this morning.

He came in and said,

I couldn't find, he had a bunch of G-Spot.

He said, I couldn't find this for a while.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good little joke for you.

So it's just me and James in the bushes.

You and James in the bushes looking for your G-Spot.

Me and it in the bushes drinking G-Spot?

And then we pop out and our hairs all messed up.

And then we go, we found the G-Spot.

And then we hold up the cans.

yeah sounds good sounds good that's the sort of classy advertising you need for your product isn't it perfect when you were writing the book and you're getting all the so so you've got a load of fantasies sent to you but they're anonymous yeah how do you go about choosing which ones get in the book were there some that didn't make the book that you felt bad for those people that they're james i've told you to not bring this up i know you're gutted that yours didn't make it listen i think it was a good fantasy about dave and alison bury Dave Franco, Alison Brie, all I wanted.

The fantasy was just them talking about their life, fully clothed.

that's the fantasy I don't see why you didn't involve that in the pods in the book you said you wouldn't bring this up I just want to hear them talking to each other about their love that's a good fantasy yeah and the fact you didn't put it in

ventriloquist yeah he is yeah yeah yeah

but no

I don't think any performer would make their dummy say what James says yeah he's a possessed one who's got ideas above his station yeah yeah one of the ones that if there was a ventriloquist you know end up back in the bag yeah pretty quickly not for saying anything you know, on PC or anything, just for just doing their edit.

Yeah.

Getting back in the bag.

Stop asking me stupid questions like that.

Talk to me like a person.

What was the original question for Jillian James?

I can't remember now.

Anything you felt bad about not putting in that book?

Yes.

Oh,

not bad.

No, no.

It took a while.

to go through all the letters.

And we've got a second book actually that we're compiling letters from

as we speak.

But it's part of the

modus operanda was asking women from as many places around the world as possible.

So it felt like the book was representative of all voices.

And so sometimes it would make a decision, it would be making a decision for a letter that was representative from a

country or a city that it may not have been the better letter, so to speak, but it felt like the experience or the writing because of where the writer came from was that that was the more important decision to make than the did you notice geographical trends with the sorts of fantasies and is there anywhere in the world where they specifically have fantasies about podcast hosts or about food

uh not podcast hosts but there are some around food fantasies around making food or partner making food during sex or after sex.

Oh, there is sex involved.

It's not just my fantasies.

My partner cooks me something.

So that would be the saddest letter.

No, but there is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or, or,

you know, does laundry, empties the dishwasher, you know, that kind of stuff.

Yeah.

Which is interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's so easy to make that person's fantasy come true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Geographically similar.

No, I mean, I think on the whole, probably the ones that were more explicit came from the West.

You know, very, what, what I found fascinating was, was, you know, the little bits and pieces that you get of slice of life stories, because they don't want to reveal too much because it's anonymous.

They're not going to, you know, but the little bits that you do get from the women's lives

and their relationship or their religion or the culture that does or does not allow them to, you know, how scared they are that they're even putting it

down on paper, so to speak.

And oh, that's really interesting.

well that leads us nicely onto your dream dessert it does you're right perfect

perfect perfect

bread pudding great yeah really eggy yes made with uh

panettone

yes this is great yeah with custard brilliant absolutely delicious heaven yeah hot custard cold custard hot custard this sounds great this is exactly the kind of thing i like i mean quite christmas puddingy when made with Panettone as well.

Yeah.

It's got that seasonal taste to it, hasn't it?

Yeah, that's true.

It's absolutely delicious.

When would you have this?

Do you have this after Thanksgiving dinner?

No.

And in fact, it's been a really long time since I've had a bread pudding at all.

And when I realised that that is what my

desire would be, I thought, I need to have it more often.

Yeah.

This is the service we aim to provide on this podcast.

It's to make people realize that they want bread pudding.

Have you ever thought about, have you ever thought thought about actually making the food or having somebody make the food that the people have on and then having people back again and serving it to them we have thought about it because it gets suggested all the time so we've had to think about it yeah but every time you've thought about it for a split second and gone no what a bad idea we're not doing that a lot of work yeah and who gives a

like

only you would enjoy it if we made your meal for you

no as in the guest as in the guests not just you oh what if what if the guests made it and brought it in for you Sometimes that would happen and then tried to get you to like it.

Again, that's nice for us, but the listeners don't.

I'd say in an audio format podcast, the last thing people like is when everyone's eating on mic.

I'd say that's that's definitely an issue.

People get really upset by that.

Where are you imbalanced in your lives?

Good question.

What me?

Well, we know your answers.

I don't want to hear it again.

Please, I don't want to hear it again.

Where am I imbalanced in my life?

Maybe work, uh, work and relaxation.

i'd you know i'd i i go hard on one or the other and then absolutely hate that i'm doing it

so it'd be nice to find more balance in that but other than that i feel pretty balanced and you the kind of person who when you realize that you you want to change something

you actually take active steps to change it i think so i will think about it for a long time but then i will actually take an active step James is probably the best person to ask.

I don't know about you.

Yeah, yeah.

Ed, I got asked in a podcast recently,

what do you admire most about Ed Gamble?

And I said it was how disciplined he is with stuff like that.

Right.

Whenever he decides, I'm going to make a change.

I'm going to do this now.

He really does it and really commits to it.

Right.

To the extent he's one of those friends when he does it, you think, I should really be doing it.

I should be looking after myself a bit better.

I actually like Ed.

That's really good.

So, yeah, he's.

But I think that says a lot about James.

He's the best in the world.

I should be doing that.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And what would he say is the trait that he admires the most in you?

You, Mr.

and Mrs.

A little bit of that.

Yeah, yeah.

But I'm asking you what you think he would say about you.

What I think Ed would say about me.

Yeah.

I have absolutely no idea.

No, yes, I do.

I think secretly he doesn't like me.

It's no secret.

No idea.

Would you like to know?

Very hardworking, very talented.

Never rests on his laurels, always creating.

Lovely man, very emotionally literate.

Anything else?

Do you want more things?

That's very nice.

That's lovely.

That's true.

Great coming.

Yeah, that'll surprise you, wouldn't it?

From the Venture of the Chris Dummy.

Yeah, it does.

It surprises me.

No, but that's a lovely thing to say about somebody, too.

If it's

not a good thing, it is true.

Nice to hear.

And do you guys spend time with each other outside of the podcast?

We do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like last few new years have been spent together?

Yes.

Any more than one day a year?

No.

Well, we'll go.

We'll, you know, we'll go away.

We'll go away

on the sort of on the 30th, 31st.

And then we'll

leave on the second.

I leave it earlier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's up to three days, Julian.

Right, okay.

That's that's amazing.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, outside of the podcast.

Pretty good.

Pretty good.

Well, the whole menu sounds great.

I'm going to read it back to you now and see how you feel about your menu.

You would like.

Yeah.

Sparkling water.

Yeah.

I'm going to put a little bit of apple juice in there for you.

Oh, thank you very much for your time.

You like colour bread for your poppin' numbs of bread.

Starter pumpkin soup with roasted pumpkin seeds.

I feel like we didn't talk enough about that.

We didn't delicious.

Can I quickly ask, would you like it served in a big pumpkin?

Absolutely not.

No.

Main course.

It had gone so up until that point.

Awful.

Main course, Thanksgiving dinner.

You've got turkey, sweet potatoes, roast potatoes, green beans, pearl onion, gratin.

That's what I want.

Green glass, jell-o, both types of stuffing, gravy, drink.

Oh, G-Spot, of course.

Dessert.

Panettone bread pudding with hot custard.

Oh, delicious.

I mean, I think I'm most most excited about that dessert, but that is so at my street.

Yeah.

It's unreal.

Very excited.

I think that's a great menu.

Do you want to do that?

Thank you.

I do.

Yeah.

I thought it's making me very hungry.

And my initial reaction to the green glass

was that that would be horrible, but I do actually want to try it.

Oh.

I really want to try it.

So I'm intrigued by it.

So if I sent you the recipe, would you make it?

Benito will make it.

Benito will make it.

And if I make it.

And bring it in, and you guys can try it together.

Okay.

We'll try it with the guests that we have in that day.

Okay.

Yeah.

And if any listeners tweet the podcast and say, like,

hey, Mr.

Benito, can I have some green glass jello potrito?

Yeah.

And you'll make it for them.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Send it to their house.

Love it.

I genuinely will make it if you send a recipe.

Okay.

I will.

I will send a recipe.

Deal.

Gillian, thank you so much for coming into the dream restaurant.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you, Gillian.

Well, there we are, James, the wonderful Gillian Anderson.

Wow we Wow Wee.

What a pleasure it was to meet Gillian Anderson.

And I mean so many things in there.

I've never heard of the green glass jello that Benito's going to make for everybody.

That's very exciting.

It does sound disgusting though.

Yes, but I will eat it.

Yes.

By the pie.

But you have to eat it with a savoury meal.

You have to eat it with those things.

Yeah, separately.

I'd imagine it's quite nice if you have it as a dessert, but the issue with it is you're having it with gravy.

Yeah, yeah.

So you've got to have it with gravy.

So Benito, you've got to make some gravy.

You got to make some gravy, gravy benito i understand all the rules oh dear me that was me picking my phone up it sounded like a file

like the the the rubber case of my phone dragged across the wood it's because i i have to look at my phone to recite the secret ingredient which gillian did not pick yes which is non-fat to tofuti rice dreamsicle from season six yes of x-files the unnatural and tron aries not tron us is out in cinemas on the 10th of october trespasses forgive us those who trespass against us yes please will air in november on channel 4 and you can buy g-spot drinks at stores nationwide including sainsbury's or online at thisisgspot.com careful when you're typing that in and you can watch this episode on youtube from tomorrow look listen to it and then watch it for all the little all the little nuances if you watch it on youtube be careful because that thing is addictive and you can end up on there for a long time watching god knows what else i i i won't even tell you what videos i watch you won't be able to guess because i'm i'm presuming bonito's going to edit that out of the episode so i don't look like a weirdo things to enjoy on the youtube video uh jillian's noise where she rotated her head a lot yeah um jillian's impression of james yes uh and also how uncomfortable i looked when she brought up her sex book yeah yeah ed really didn't when when i was asking questions about the sex book oh no i didn't mind at that point it's when she brought it up and she was looking me right in the eye and she was talking about her um sexual fantasy book and then you were scared not scared

Uncomfortable.

Yeah, you seemed like you wanted the conversation to end pretty quickly.

I didn't think the book was going to come up.

We're already talking about a drink called G-Spot.

That was enough circling around the nethers for me.

Oh, I'm touring Europe

in November.

So if you live in, you know, your Denmarks, your Netherlands, your Portugal, weirdly.

Circling around the Netherlands.

Circling around the Netherlands.

I'm going, yeah, I'm doing Lisbon.

I'm doing Rotterdam.

I'm doing Amsterdam.

I'm doing Oslo.

I'm doing Bergen.

I'm doing Gibraltar.

Never Newer.

Always funny.

Yeah.

Always funny.

And you can go to edgamble.co.uk for tickets.

I'm also touring America next year in February.

Absolutely fantastic.

And then, of course, got to come back because we're doing bloody off-menu at the Royal Albert Hall.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, it's over.

We're struggling to sell tickets for that.

Can't give them away.

How many shows are you doing, Benito?

We're doing six Royal Albert Hall shows, James, and we just put the last one on sale.

Yep.

We're trying to get bums on seats.

We sold 22,000 tickets.

It's over.

We're trying to get bums on seats because everyone's giving us a bloody stunning ovation.

Sit down.

Put your trons on the seat.

Brilliant.

Thanks.

It's the best in the business.

Well, there we are, James.

Thanks again, everyone, for listening.

Thanks to Jillian Anderson.

Thank you, Jillian.

Let's all raise a G-spot and we'll see you next time.

See you next time.

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