Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Maher.

Start the clock.

Hi, everybody.

How are you doing?

Thank you.

Thank you down there.

Down there.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

Oh, good.

What a night to be on, huh?

Thank you so much.

I appreciate that.

Wow, huh?

Huh?

Did you see the debate?

In case you missed it, don't worry.

So did one of the contestants.

I mean...

Wow.

I mean, Trump told lie after lie after lie.

He never would have gotten away with that if Joe Biden was there.

Oh, wow.

Oh, Joe.

Joe.

Come on, man.

Joe.

You know, Joe, he famously loves trains, but apparently not of thought.

I mean...

It's just all night confused and halting and trailing off.

I've seen beauty pageant contestants answer questions better.

I mean,

I know.

I don't want to say he shit the bed, but

this new Secret Service name is Amber Heard.

I'm coming on.

This guy was bad.

And it wasn't just what came out of his mouth.

You know, I mean, the look on his face the whole night.

It just looked like somebody just thought he left the stove on, you know.

I mean, the last time CNN,

the last time CNN covered someone this lost,

I got to go back to that Malaysian airline plane that went down into Pacific.

Here's the most ironic part.

The Republicans were so afraid that Joe was going to be beating expectations.

Remember, all last week they were like, he's going to be jacked up.

They put out all this crap about jacked up, he's going to have a secret earpiece in.

Really?

Who was on the other end of it?

Jimmy Carter?

I mean.

I mean,

at one point,

Trump was winning by so much that he started to talk about golf.

He just said, fuck it, golf.

Fuck it.

You know what?

This happened in America, formerly a real country.

And Trump.

And if that wasn't enough, Trump looked thinner.

Some people said he's on a zempic.

No, that is not what it is.

He just lies his ass off.

That's what it looks.

So look.

robbery,

perfect night to be on.

We're going to talk about it soon.

But for now, Democrats have some hard conversations they'd have to have.

Joe Biden, noble guy,

did a great thing when he got elected president, did very well for three years, but now there is no toothpaste left in that tube.

And we either walk around with bad breath or green teeth or walk into his EVS and shoplift a new tube.

All right, we've got a a great show.

We have Tulsi Gabbard and Chris Matthews are here.

But first up he is an inventor, futurist, and New York Times best-selling author.

His new book is called The Singularity is Nearer when we merge with AI Ray Kurzweil.

Ray!

Great to see you again.

How are you?

You look good.

You look good, Ray.

What are you doing?

Are you still having 200 pills a day?

No, I'm down to 70.

70.

I have about the same, you know?

Congratulations on you, bro.

Really?

That's science, right?

We're putting good things in our body, right?

Okay.

So I'm so anxious to have you on.

I want to place you in case people don't know who you are.

Nobody has been more on AI than you.

From the last century, when people were not even thinking of it.

I mean, I never thought of AI.

The only time I ever thought of AI was the one Spielberg movie I didn't like.

Only for 61 years.

61 years, yeah.

And you, yeah, obviously you're Google's main AI guy.

But I mean, back in 1999, you were talking about this going on with AI and this singularity.

And you said in 2029, you had a whole book about it.

You said that's when human, they would achieve human-level intelligence.

Hasn't it already?

Depends, not really.

Okay.

I'm still saying 2029.

Other people are saying two years, three years, four years.

When I said that in around 2000,

everybody thought it's going to take 100 years.

Right.

And 30 years was

very optimistic.

But human-level intelligence, I thought it had far surpassed us because it can do so many things we can't.

Yes.

I mean, you can ask it anything in philosophy, psychology, physics, and it will give you a very good answer.

And if you don't like that, you can ask it again.

It will give you another answer that's also good.

Right.

But there's a few things it doesn't do.

It doesn't create art the way a master artist would do.

Thank you.

Okay, so

the next prediction, and by the way, you have many other predictions.

Didn't you predict the end of the Soviet Union, like within a couple of years?

Yeah.

Okay.

So, I mean, there's nobody like you.

I just want people to understand that.

You say 2045.

This is when we basically become a hybrid species, when we merge in the cloud with the machines, basically.

You're sticking with that, 2045.

Because that's 20 years away.

And let me tell you folks, 20 years goes fast, young people.

You think, oh, that's...

You'll be there tomorrow.

We'll stay alive during that period.

We're going to reach longevity escape velocity where we go year and our longevity actually increases by a year.

So we're not going to actually succumb to aging.

So we hope.

Well,

you can have a 20-year-old who has a longevity of many decades and they could die tomorrow.

So it's not a guarantee.

Can I just have the 20-year-old?

No.

But okay, but

explain to me what this means.

Explain to me what this means merging merging in the cloud.

What if I want to opt out of that?

I mean, my mother used to say, don't live with your head in the clouds.

Now you want me to live with my head.

First of all, what does that mean, my head, merge in the cloud?

Well, you've got lots of connections in your brain.

We have a certain size brain, so that we're more intelligent than other animals.

But we'd actually like to increase that.

We'd like to become more intelligent.

So it'll actually go to the cloud.

The cloud doubles in capacity every year.

So that'll actually make us more intelligent.

So it'll be just like we are now, except we'll be a lot more intelligent than we were before.

But see, you're so optimistic about this.

I mean,

I'm sure you've thought about it a zillion times more than I have.

Well, there's some downsides also.

Okay.

Oh, good.

I'm glad you acknowledge that, because what I read in your book, I mean, you say, you like you used the

phrase, we'll be freed from our skulls.

Let me read this quote.

You say, the most commonly discussed worst-case scenario is the potential creation of gray goo,

self-replicating machines that consume carbon-based matter and turn it into more self-replicating machines.

Such a process could lead to a runaway chain reaction, potentially converting the entire biomass of the Earth to such machines.

Instead of trying to add security features to an inherently dangerous system, we must build nanobots that are naturally fail-safe.

Well, that's the downside, yeah.

But see,

I mean, we're trying to avoid that.

I think we will, but I mean, there are downsides to everything.

But see, here's, I mean, we've had atomic weapons really since I was a small child.

We'd actually get under our desk, put our hands behind our head, protect us from a nuclear war.

I remember.

And it worked.

Okay, but that was

so far.

So far.

So far.

Yes.

Because of something called mutually assured destruction.

I don't know if we have that here.

See, when you say instead of building security features, we must only build nanobots that are fail-safe.

We, I think you're forgetting about bad guys, Ray.

What about bad guys?

There's still bad guys out here.

And before we merge with the cloud and become this great hybrid species, don't you worry about the bad guys using this before we even get there to...

Absolutely, and they're out there and they're causing problems.

But

as we create these things, we're actually putting more effort into avoiding what bad guys will do to it than we're actually creating new capabilities.

So

we're keeping up with them.

But we constantly have to fight bad uses of these technologies.

And what about jobs?

When everyone's living in the cloud,

Well, we've had that since we've had the Luddite movement 200 years ago.

I mean, we had the cotton genny and other things that would

eliminate jobs.

And people were very worried about that.

And those jobs did go away.

And we say, well, we're going to create new jobs.

And people say, well, what new jobs?

And you could say, well, you can be a social media influencer.

No one would know what you're talking about.

Right.

But what jobs do you think?

I mean, you're the great seer of the future.

What jobs will be created by this?

It's not really us versus AI.

We're going to merge our two.

We're going to put AI inside our bodies and outside our bodies that we go through wireless communications to enhance ourselves.

So it's not going to be us versus AI.

We're going to enhance our capabilities through AI and make ourselves much smarter than we are now.

So we'll be doing these jobs.

Anything that

really turns you on,

we'll be able to do because we'll be that much smarter.

Well, speaking of that, how will this affect sex?

No, really.

Applause for the question.

Yes, it'll become better.

It'll become better?

Yeah.

I'm not not sure for everyone.

I mean

Can you describe AI sex?

I mean

we just have to think about it.

I know you said...

I have a much richer imagination.

Right.

But I know in the book you say some things that we do now, we're just going to have to think about.

I mean, you just, you were talking about acting.

You said, you know, somebody has to actually.

Right, we'll have virtual reality where you can go into something and it'll be just like real,

but it'll be done within your mind.

Virtual reality will become that much more enhancing.

Then won't our bodies atrophy?

No,

but we won't be limited to just one body.

Won't be limited to just one body.

Yeah.

I don't get it.

Meaning?

You can, I mean in virtual reality today, you can have a different body than you used to be.

Like an avatar.

Yeah, but it can be very realistic.

I hope.

It depends on your imagination.

Yeah,

I mean, gee, I can't wrap my head around this.

I don't even know if I want to live in this brave new world, but I get, but we're not going to have a choice.

That's the thing.

And of course, what I do hope, I do like living.

I do want to keep living.

Some people don't.

There are lots of people who say, no, you know what?

They'd say they don't want to live until they live.

They don't want to live past 95.

They get to 95.

They don't want to die the next day.

Exactly.

Right.

And you think this will be able to, I mean, I'm.

People only want to die if they're in terrible pain.

Right.

Physical, emotional, spiritual.

Otherwise, they want to continue, regardless of what they said, you know, 20 years earlier.

All right.

Well, I hope I have you back on the show in 20 years when we're both still here.

Great cursewhile, everybody.

Thank you very much, Professor.

All right, let's treat our panel.

Thank you, Ray.

Okay.

Hi.

All right.

He's the legendary broadcaster and journalist who wrote This Country, My Life in

Politics and History.

Chris Matthews is over here.

And she was Hawaii's four-term congresswoman who now serves as a lieutenant colonel in the U.S.

Army Reserve and is the author of For Love of Country, Leave the Democrat Party Behind.

Tulsi Gabbard, great to have you back.

I got to tell you,

we always have to book the panel a little bit in advance because people have to fly in and so forth.

I can't think of a better panel for tonight.

Chris, first of all, missed you so much on TV for just days like this.

And you.

I'm dying to know your feeling about last night because you ran for president as a Democrat last time.

You feel you got smeared, but you have a case for.

And so I'm just dying to know your feelings, like your real feelings about this.

But let's just start with this.

Okay, we have two Biden voters here, I think.

I mean, I have said before, I will vote for his head in a jar of blue liquid.

And after last night, time to get the jar.

But

I know you're not a Biden voter, but just pretend that you are for a minute, just for the sake of the party.

What should they do?

Replace Biden or not, yes or no?

The problem is, it's his decision.

He's got all the delegates.

They're confirmed.

There's nothing ahead between here and

the convention.

But what should you advocate the Democratic Party to do?

I advocate for them, and I said it nine months ago with my editorial called Ruth Bader Biden.

He should step down.

That's my position.

That's some people's position today.

I think I just heard before I went on that the New York Times editorial board is asking him to step down.

And then there's other people.

I heard all the surrogates last night, Obama, Gavin Newsom, to no, stick with the guy.

What should they do?

I say, quit.

I said it a long time ago.

And now I think it's absolutely apparent that is the only way.

But that's only half the crowd.

What happens?

So he and Dr.

Biden Biden decide they're going to quit.

They're going to walk out, give it to somebody else.

Who gets it?

Okay, let's go through that scenario.

Well, first of all, what's your take on this?

I think it doesn't make a difference, quite frankly.

If you look at Joe Biden's policies and you look at the prospect of any one of the number of people who could replace him, should he decide to walk away, and I agree with Chris, it is his decision, ultimately, all of these different policies that have been destructive to our country will continue.

So all this attention that's focused around, okay, well, should he stay, should he go, to me, frankly, deflects away from the substantive, policy-centered conversation we should be having as a country as people look at this choice they have to make.

Well, we should, but let's not pretend that this country, let's not pretend that this country is falling apart or that Joe Biden caused it to fall apart.

He actually didn't do a terrible job at all.

And a lot of the things he did have helped this country.

We came through the pandemic better than any other country in the world.

We're not in any sort of depression or even recession.

The stock market is through the roof.

People aren't like dying in the streets.

Are you kidding?

Yes, we have problems, like every country has problems.

But a different candidate would make a huge difference, I think.

Here's from last night, the flash poll afterward.

Trump, they said, won 67 to 33.

33.

That number rings in my mind because you know what that number is?

That's the number you always see, very close, 33, 34, 32, of the people who are just always with their party.

Right.

I mean, that is Mrs.

Goebbels in the bunker number.

She's a woman that kills all her kids.

Rather than live in a world without National Socialism.

Exactly.

I got it right.

You see it on the right.

They used to call them Birchers, Berthers, Tea Party, whatever, MAGA nation, whatever.

They never move.

And now I feel like that's a third of the Democrats who are like, they're going to stick with this guy and they are going to regret it.

He is going to lose.

I said it nine months ago.

I'm saying it again tonight.

And now it seems like it's so apparent.

In the real world, outside of the Biden world, it's clear to me that another candidate like Newsom, the governor of California, could have the dynamic to move from June, right now,

to November and build up support to match Trump's and maybe overtake him.

He could change the whole situation.

Absolutely.

The problem is, and this is the Democratic Party and the way it is, it's a party of center left and left.

If he does that, Kamala Harris people will go, wait a minute, I'm next.

And he'll say, you're right, you are next, because that's what he's saying right now.

And that's the problem.

But here's the great thing about Newsom as the candidate.

She can't be his vice president.

No, she's next for president.

You can't be.

Oh.

That's the problem.

And not the problem.

It's the reality of the team.

I'm not sure that's even that big a problem for the Democrats.

People at the end of the day want to win.

Here's what's going to...

Now, I don't want to show a lot of the tape from last night because it's too hard to look at.

But just show this one thing.

We picked out one thing.

For people who don't watch, and they watch this show to catch up on the news.

This is what the Republic is going to show from now until Election Day.

Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person

eligible for what I've been able to do with

the COVID, excuse me, with

dealing with everything we have to do with...

See that head?

Look,

if

we finally beat Medicare.

Thank you, President Biden.

President Trump.

Who is right?

He did beat Medicare.

He beat it to death.

You see the head, the way he turned that head?

He knew the two-shot would be up there.

He wanted to have his head turning.

Like, let's watch the guy show how crazy he is.

He's looking for it.

Look, this is this election.

You're blaming that on Trump?

No, I'm watching his

theatrical ability.

He is playing this.

Okay, but he didn't have to do anything.

I mean, he came out.

It reminded me of when Mike Tyson used to knock guys out in 90 seconds.

Like, that was like two minutes into the debate, and I went, oh, this election is over.

I mean, that was like a haymaker right now.

Like, I'm going to watch the guy.

He is so fast on the trigger.

I watched him.

He comes up with, well, he pulled out of Afghanistan in a disastrous way.

That's true.

He didn't fire anybody.

He didn't fire Jake Tapper or any of the generals.

That's all true.

Then he'll throw in, oh, by the way, illegal people can get Medicare and Social Security.

No, they can't.

He just throws in the lies.

He mixes up the lies with some truth.

And then Obama, I'm sorry, Biden is not smart enough to keep up with them.

He just can't keep up with them.

Well, isn't that the whole point?

You need a guy to keep up with them.

I mean,

I feel like the whole rationale for Biden running has always been, I'm the only guy who can beat him.

Now I think it's inverted.

I think he's the only guy who could lose to him.

I think you're right.

Or the guy who's, sure, oh, you agree.

So

shouldn't they replace him?

I'm talking about what has to happen, but probably won't.

What you want to happen won't happen.

I don't know.

You know, I keep hearing all day from these Democrats defending this, like, we can't abandon Joe Biden.

What about me?

I feel abandoned.

I feel abandoned.

I have nobody to vote for.

What?

I just want to say one thing, and I'll get out of the way.

Look, to me, this election is about fundamentals.

It's about, I know you disagree.

This is about...

Do we believe in democracy?

And it's not just some ethereal word.

Do you believe in the person that gets the most votes in the electoral college should be president?

We've had guys like Nixon, who threw in the towel after Chicago and what happened in Texas with Johnson, and Hillary Clinton had to throw it in after James Comey makes his phone call 11 days out or the laptop stuff.

This is politics always has issues and in the future it will always have close elections.

You can't say it's a too close to call.

Trump did not admit he lost in 2020.

That's my main issue.

All around the world, I was in a peace court out there.

I always bragged to myself.

I'd say, you know, we got these countries like Zimbabwe and they're just starting off in democracy.

But there's always some clown who says it was a fixed election or it was rigged.

That's a joke.

In our country, there's always somebody who on election night, whether it was Adelaide Stevenson or somebody, would come forward and say John McCain,

you know, or Hillary Clinton the next morning, and she sat at the Hotel Pennsylvania and said, I lost.

That's what Americans should do.

You have to say, I lost.

Well, that's true.

Because that's what makes the system work.

Couldn't agree more.

Well, that's a good question for you.

Well, I think that

I disagree with you.

I think that there are very serious issues that a lot of these swing voters who are still undecided are considering as they look at the Biden administration's policies and the policies that will continue, whether it's Joe Biden or someone else replaces him.

Whether it's issues like border security or the insanity around the destruction of Title IX and the rejection of, you know, a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl.

They're looking at safety in their communities, education system, the economy.

Obviously, there are so many different issues that people are considering.

But I want to point to, I think think the most important one that came through in the debate last night was when Joe Biden said, quote, the only existential threat to humanity is climate change.

The fact that he said this, the only existential threat to humanity is climate change completely dismisses the fact that this is a guy who has the nuclear codes and yet is not present enough and is actually insane and so far out of touch with reality that he doesn't recognize that the true existential threat to humanity, to our country, to the world, is the fact that we are closer to nuclear holocaust now than we ever have been before in history.

Well, sure.

I mean, that's a threat, and climate is a threat, and AI is a threat.

There's lots of things.

And Trump is a threat.

Well, this is the point.

Look, this is the point.

Let me just finish this point.

If you are equating

a nuclear holocaust where we will see children and mothers and fathers, their skin melting off

nuclear blasts

with AI and with Trump.

No, it's a serious issue.

I know, but this is what we're talking about.

But I want to get back to the question he asked, because you haven't answered it, and I want you to.

I mean, you're a patriot.

You fought for this country, and we love you for that.

Is it the patriotic thing to back someone who will not concede elections?

And I'm not talking about January 6th.

They talked about it a lot last night.

To me, January 6th is always going to be a murky thing.

It was a horrible, awful day in this country's history.

But

Trump's role in it is a little murky.

Obviously, he is Trump.

He did the worst he possibly could.

But what he never did,

what's incontrovertible is that from the moment the election happened, he never conceded.

He still has not conceded the last election.

You think it's patriotic to back someone who treats America that way?

I think what you've heard from Trump is the same thing you've heard from Hillary Clinton, the same thing you've heard from a lot of other people who have called him an illegitimate.

That's how she never was, you know,

no, no, that's over there.

That's over there, Tulsi.

We're talking about he has not conceded the last election.

Can I quote to you, I think I have it somewhere, the quote from the, oh fuck, I don't have.

Here it is.

This is the election's joint statement.

from the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council and the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history.

There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

And here's Mitch McConnell.

The election was not unusually close.

Bob Barr said he lost the election.

I'm not disputing.

I'm not disputing.

He lost the election, and he is not conceded to.

But what I'm saying is...

But that's your guy.

Well, what I'm saying is when you look at his statements, and again, I don't have all of the quotes, but I've seen and heard them many times.

You don't need quotes.

It doesn't make any, there's no distinction or difference between what he and Hillary Clinton essentially

asked last night in the debate, would you accept

the results of the election?

Yes, if it's free and fair, which is a way of saying

if we win, I...

Of course.

And this was, that's what I just read it to you.

This was a free and fair one.

So he obviously does not admit when he loses a free and fair election.

So why would we think he's going to do it this time?

Did you hear what he said last week in Detroit at that rally with all the MAGA people there?

He said, I carried California in 2020.

He lost this state by 5 million votes.

Everybody knew it.

And then the other thing, 5 million votes.

And then he went to Brad Rappensberger in Atlanta and he said,

find me 12,000 votes.

He lost it.

He knew exactly how many votes he lost the election by in Georgia.

Give me 5,000 votes.

Give me.

And you know what?

Brad Ravensberger, the Secretary of State, a Republican, who voted for Trump, said, I had a tape recorded.

I caught him.

And he never came back again.

He's out stealing votes.

And now he's accused the other side of stealing votes.

I'm telling you, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Bob Dole, everybody that we've had in my lifetime who lost an election for president, bellied up and said to the American people on television, I lost.

And that's why our country is so superior to anywhere else.

Thank

All right, well,

let's take a breath of some screening at each other.

A program note, okay, this is it.

We have a kind of a crazy schedule.

We will be off next week because it's the 4th of July.

We're usually not on this late because we take our summer break, but because the Republican convention is, let me see here, that is July 19th.

So we want to be on for the two weeks after we're off next week.

That's July 12th and July 19th.

Then we're off for a month.

Then we come back for the DNC on August 23rd to the end of the year.

But we thought because we're on near the 4th of July, and we usually aren't, we would do something tonight because it was kind of a depressing night last night

to show people what is still great about America.

Would you like to see?

Okay,

let's do that.

What is still great about America?

For example, we have tent cities bigger than your entire shithole country.

We're so advanced technologically, we already are using robot TV hosts.

We're so forward-thinking.

Our last president was a man who wears makeup.

Other countries have museums that bring the past alive.

We have the entire southern United States.

Our strip clubs are so hot, women-hating terrorists go there the night before they die.

And

you can get a hand job from your congressperson in a public theater.

America.

We allow the learning disabled to help run the government.

Oh, come on.

A great country.

If you think your beer is gay, you can shoot it.

And if you see an unoccupied home, you can just move in.

I mean.

Our fast food restaurants sound sound like euphemisms for sex.

This is a great country.

And

in America, you can dance like no one is watching, or if you want, like you're jerking off two guys at once.

Okay.

So.

All right.

So I want to read a couple of quotes about,

go back to this just for a second.

This is Steve Bannon.

He said, if they steal the election, and he's talking about the Democrats, of course, and they fully intend to steal it, this republic ends.

And this is you.

You said, Biden and the Democratic elite have turned our country into a banana republic.

I think the exact same thing about the other side.

That's exactly what I would say about the Republicans.

If they steal this election and they fully intend to steal it, this republic ends.

How do we get out of this where we are such mirror images of each other that we think exactly the same way about the other side.

We both use that phrase, existential threat.

How do we get out of that?

Well, I think it's important to look at what's actually happening, that this isn't my opinion versus your opinion and everyone else's opinion or some theory about what may possibly happen when you look at the weaponization of the Department of Justice.

Talk about all the different cases that Trump is facing, but then you can also look at how

political opposition and others who disagree disagree with this administration are also being targeted.

You look at how we're facing more censorship of free speech now than ever before in my lifetime, whether it's directly or indirectly from this administration.

You know, obviously COVID was a huge example of this.

There are many others that have come forward.

Yeah, there is a lot of that.

And you look at how they tried to remove Trump from over 32 ballots in different states.

These are things that should not and cannot be happening in a true democracy, in a democratic republic, and things that we should take note of as the direction that we are headed in and this threat that we face.

You know, when

I think a lot about this, like you do, and I think about what rights are at stake right now.

I was at the Berlin Wall when it was coming down.

I met this young guy, his Army surplus jacket on.

He looked like an American anti-war candidate, an anti-war kid.

And I said to him, what's freedom mean to you?

And the kid said, talking to you.

That's

in trouble.

Trump has said, I'm going to make sure I get even with half this country that's probably going to vote against me.

He's going to go after public officials.

He's going after commentators.

He's going after editorial writers.

He's going to go after everybody.

And they're basically at stake right now.

So it's not going to be a free country.

He said, I'm going to get those people.

He said, about women, there needs to be some form of punishment.

That's how he started his discussion of

him.

And he went ahead, and he put those three judges on the Supreme Court, and he got rid of Roe v.

Wade.

He did that.

Your rights are gone.

He is out there to remove people's rights.

That's the real danger.

And we don't know where it's going to end.

We do not know.

Nobody can sit here tonight or this November and say they know where Trump's going to stop.

Or whatever he's going to do.

This is crazy.

The difference is the erosion of free speech,

the targeting of political opponents has actually occurred under the Biden administration.

Whereas when you go back and look under the Trump administration, we didn't see this kind of attack on this fundamental

free.

His fundamental right to free speech.

That's always the rub when someone in high office commits crimes.

It's like, if you go after them, yes, you are subject to that accusation that you're politicizing the Justice Department.

But what if you really do commit crimes?

I mean, everything he is accused of, I mean, he said last night, I didn't have sex with the porn start.

You don't really believe that, do you?

Come on, man.

Is that the crime?

Is that the crime you're talking about?

But you look at that whole case.

That whole case that was brought up is something that has never, ever been brought up before.

And you had the former governor and attorney general of New York saying no.

That purely would not have happened unless it was Donald Trump.

I'm not for that.

And if you were running away from that.

I'm not for that one.

But somebody who was that one.

I wasn't for that, bringing that case.

Certainly not in New York.

But asking the guy in Georgia for 11,000 votes on the phone.

I mean, you have it on tape.

You have to find me 11,000 votes.

Remember that Rod Blagojevich guy?

Didn't he do the same thing?

I mean, he's on tape asking for votes to change the election.

That's not a crime.

That's America.

All of the systems are in place to be able to ensure that

votes that are cast are fairly counted.

What does that have to do with this question?

The context.

Oh, really?

Don't try to be snorkeling.

The context of that recorded statement actually does matter whether you're talking about, hey, are all the votes that have been cast actually counted?

No, he said, I need you to find me.

This is after.

I interviewed the guy.

I said, what do you think he meant by the word find?

Give me 12,000 votes.

That's why he tape recorded it because he knew what the guys he had already done a recount of all Georgia's votes.

It was absolutely solid.

The state, the legislature, it was absolutely finished.

And he calls up and says, give me the new extra votes.

I'm telling you, the guy went out and he was involved with Arizona out there with that whole thing with Rudy Giuliani and what he's been in charge with.

He tried everything.

New electors, knew this.

The guy was trying to win the election after he lost it.

Okay, so let me give you a break here and go to the other side because there was a primary.

primaries in the Democratic Party.

Jamal Bowman, he is from New York.

He is a member of the squad.

He lost.

I don't know that much about him.

I remember the first thing I read about him was a quote where he said, capitalism is the new slavery.

And I said, no, it is not.

That's a ridiculous statement.

And lots of black folks in this country do very well by capitalism, and they would not want to see it end.

Very few people would want to see capitalism end.

So right there, I thought, oh, this is not going to be my favorite Congress person.

He also also set off the alarm.

He set off the alarm to stop the vote.

And then he said, I didn't set off the alarm.

Yes, I did.

Okay.

I'm here.

And Corey Bush, she's also a member of the squad, very also far left.

She looks like she's going to be out in, I think it's Missouri.

So I just got to say, the Democratic Party does seem to have a better ability to, at least in their primaries, straighten out their voters.

straighten out their party.

It looks like they're tacking to the center.

And, you know, what you were starting to talk about before, I used the phrase last week on the show in my editorial about the left.

I said they are aggressively anti-common sense.

Yes.

And I'll keep saying it, and I've been saying it for years, because that's what they are, aggressively anti-common sense.

We could go through some of the things you started to mention.

That to me is Trump's biggest Trump card.

I agree.

I think people who are actually paying attention, and I think this is where we're seeing more people that normally wouldn't vote for a Republican or normally normally wouldn't consider voting for Trump.

You're seeing his numbers go up amongst different demographics.

I think largely because people are looking at the whole political system and seeing how crazy it's becoming and how much the Democrat elite's policies are lacking just that basic common sense test.

You know, I think the people who are going to decide this election are the more moderate Republicans and the more moderate Democrats.

You never hear anybody talking about moderate.

I'm one.

And I got to tell you, I'm sort of an unhyphenated Democrat.

I'm not in any special kind of interest group or anything like that.

I think the party's done a pretty good job creating Social Security, Medicare,

everything that's been positive about our country.

They did it.

And they created the American middle class.

And I'll tell you,

they steer progressively, but to the center.

And they are certainly not radicals.

And the American people are comfortable with them.

I think Biden has moved to the left.

And that's been a problem.

And he's gotten woke and all that.

That's all a problem.

I think Al Franken should be back in the U.S.

Senate.

He's

absolutely the best senator there was recently.

I mean he threw him out.

I'm sorry.

It's absolutely true.

And if you could get these senators under sodium pentathol without anybody watching and you actually got them to answer the question who's been the best senator around here, then say Al Franken.

It was his decision.

Well, ultimately after Schumer got working on him, you know, and saying your staff will never work here again.

Other people just

toughed it out.

He didn't.

He could have stayed.

Remember the guy in Virginia?

What was his name?

The governor there?

He was dancing like Michael Jackson for a minute, remember in the video?

And they wanted to get him out.

He just said, no, you know what?

People will give it three weeks and they'll be talking about Britney Spears' new boyfriend.

That's what Biden is talking about.

Biden's probably saying, you know, Bill Maher, I know what he said on Friday night.

I don't care what he said.

I'm sticking around here.

They got into a little bit last night about foreign affairs and the growing strategic alliance that is going on between what I would call dictator countries.

Russia, China, North Korea, Iran.

It doesn't bother you that these countries all like your boy.

That's the guy they want for president, the dictator countries.

Nothing.

What bothers and concerns me is that Biden's foreign policy is what has driven all all of these dictators together.

Through economic sanctions, economic warfare, he is pushing them towards each other.

That is what poses a threat.

That is what I'm most concerned about for our country.

I did think Trump had a good moment when he said

Putin took land under Biden, he took land under Obama, but he wouldn't do it under me.

But

he also said,

Trump said last week, he said, right now we have the largest trade deficit we've ever had with China, like over a trillion.

It's a quarter of that.

It doesn't bother you.

He just pulls things out of his ass.

Or he just does it.

He does it in a way that poor

our president couldn't catch him on it.

He said last night twice that Social Security and Medicare are going to people in the country illegally.

They don't have papers.

It's not true.

It's not true.

They are not getting socio.

They're paying into it because you have to get a job.

You got to at least use a name to get the job, somebody's name, but you have to pay in.

You got to pay in, but you don't get the benefits.

And Biden didn't know that because I think he's thinking things are going on in this administration he doesn't know about.

That's his problem.

He's not sure what isn't true.

And there was a case where this guy just made it up.

One of the things that you need to say with Joe Biden doesn't know what's true, the fact that he stood there with a straight face and looked directly in the camera and said, not a single service member has been killed under my administration.

It was a punch in the gut to every one of us who serve that he dismissed the lives of those 13 men and women who were killed in Kabul, that he dismissed the lives of the three who were killed this past January in Jordan and their families, the people who are still struggling and living with that sacrifice today.

He had a bad night.

And he also said, I never, Trump, Trump had one really smart line.

He said, you never fire anybody.

That's a problem.

If you don't fire anybody as an executive position,

Reagan got rid of the aircraft, the air traffic controllers, and sent a message to the Soviet Union.

They took them seriously after that.

You got him.

Why didn't Jake,

what's his name?

Why did he get bounced?

I don't understand.

Why weren't the generals bounced after that disastrous retreat from Afghanistan?

Nothing.

Especially when your catchphrase was, you're fired.

All right.

We got better new rules.

Thank you, guys.

New rules.

Okay.

New rule.

After last night's debate, America now has to decide, do you want infirmed old or insane old?

The important thing to remember is that age affects different people in different ways.

For example, the Green Hornet still looks good, but Cato was really letting himself go.

Leary, now that 21 million sets of miniature toy food have been recalled for being harmful and dangerous, I demand an apology.

Not from the toy company, they're just trying to make a buck, from the 21 million Americans who bought this crap.

All you do is whine about the price of groceries, then you pay $69 for fake food.

Fuck you.

Neural, since Trump posted this photo and wrote, my son Don has absolutely no fear, not even of a vicious rattlesnake, someone should tell Junior what he should really be afraid of.

A train.

Neural, don't go on a sports podcast and talk about your girlfriend.

It's a sports podcast.

You're supposed to talk about scores and trades and how fast some guy can run.

You know, gay stuff.

Not the exact moment Taylor Swift won you over,

unless it was a blowjob, but it wasn't a blowjob, so shut up.

New rule, now that Michigan Republican state representative Neil Friskey, who says he stands strong behind President Trump and who has sponsored legislation restricting abortion access,

was arrested last week after reportedly chasing a stripper down the street with a gun at two in the morning.

He must change his name to the White Diddy

And then

tell us how we need the Ten Commandments back in school.

All right.

And finally, new rule, whoever held up this sign at a Trump rally that says, can't get a job, house, or a girlfriend thanks to Biden needs to stop blaming Biden, especially for the girlfriend part.

He paid off your student loans.

Now you want him to get you laid.

Sorry, but the thing men need to build back better is their game.

Did you know that in the U.S., 63% of men, 18 to 29, are single, but just 34% of women?

I'm not sure how that works unless there are a lot more lesbians than I thought.

But here's the good news.

One of the big social trends of the last year is that young people are dropping dating apps in favor of old school in-person interactions, just like we stupid old people used to do.

And not a moment too soon, the CDC says the general fertility rate in America is way down, and Nick Cannon can't fix it all by himself.

I said here a few weeks ago that men need a TED Talk on how to get with women, and tonight you're going to get it.

Young men, young women.

Does this remind you of anything?

Because it's broken down for an entire generation of young people.

But what if I told you

that with a few small changes, you could be touching an actual woman instead of jerking off in your parents' basement?

Now,

since this is a TED talk, we need to first whiteboard the issue so we can drill down on the game-changing paradigm shift

that really squeezes the juice out of a more goal-oriented approach that can move the needle.

And the solution is called game.

Game.

G-A-N-E.

Simple but revolutionary.

First step G stands for go outside.

And also grooming and goodwill.

Not like goodwill to your fellow man.

I mean the place that takes your old shitty clothes.

Guys these days, guys these days dress for a date like they're going in for a colonoscopy.

Unless you're a crocodile hunter, don't wear shorts on a date.

There's no shorts in dating.

And get a fucking belt.

Nothing elastic.

And shirts have collars.

Shoes look good.

And they make a sound on hardwood floors.

They shouldn't look like bathtub toys.

You may think Abercrabby and Fitch is for douchebags, but guess who gets laid?

Douchebags.

You've probably heard the phrase, he cleans up nice.

Do that.

Clean up.

Cut your hair in your nose.

Is it possible for a guy who ignores hygiene to get laid still?

Sure, Tommy Lee did it in the 90s.

Johnny Depp more recently, but remember,

but remember these three words.

You're not them.

If a woman can smell your ass, they're not getting near your dick.

And no, axe body spray is not a substitute.

Clean your ass like you're going to have not.

Clean your ass like you're going to have sex in it and then don't.

Which brings me to an important point.

Women in the real world aren't like the women you jerk off to on Pornhub.

I know you think the world is full of stepsisters who want to be choked, but it's not.

Nobody blows the pizza guy for a tip.

And the ass, the ass is there to be saved for when the relationship gets boring.

It's either that or have kids.

G is also for grow up.

up.

If something in your grocery cart has a cartoon character on it, put it back.

You want to get laid, your freezer should be filled with vodka, not dino nuggets.

If you act like an immature teen, you're not going to attract women.

You're going to attract boy band managers.

Here's a sign you have too many action figures in your cubicle.

You have one action figure in your cubicle.

All right, next is A.

A is for act normal.

Don't be weird.

Don't go creepy facial hair.

Or order dinner in Klingon or say me thinks.

Women want a man, not a Renaissance fair character.

Find a hobby that doesn't include warlocks, elves, or 18-sided dice.

No woman wants to sit there and watch you cast spells.

She wants you to spell the alphabet with your tongue.

And for God's sake, do anything but send a woman a picture of your dick.

Women don't like this.

The absolute best picture you can take of it is still a hate crime.

And much like a dick, you should take a moment to let that sink in.

M.

M is for man up.

Look,

you're going to have to approach women in order for them to like you.

And yes, fear of rejection does cause anxiety.

But here's an important concept many men are not aware of.

Women are actually people.

They're humans, just like us.

In fact, we share almost 99% of our DNA with women.

Here's the problem.

Men have no idea how to meet them anymore because that involves talking and dating through the phone has caused men's approaching skills to atrophy.

At this very moment, there are millions of men sitting in their basement masturbatoriums.

While outside, under the heat dome, there are women out and about tanning and drinking and enjoying hot girl summer one white claw at a time.

Remember, the greatest pickup line ever written is still hello.

So, no.

You're not going to be a great conversationalist right off the bat, but you can survive in any conversation with a woman if you know just two phrases.

One, I've never thought of it that way before.

And two, your coworker sure sounds like a real bitch.

And lastly, E.

E is for eye contact.

Stop looking at your phone and start looking in her eyes.

If you want a bone, put down the phone.

And remember, tits begins with T, and T is for trap.

There's no other reason for tits in the modern world, and certainly no other reason to always have them spilling out.

It's a test to see if you can focus up here, closer to the brain.

Finally, women are feminists in theory.

In reality, they would like for you to and expect you to pay for the date, and this is completely reasonable considering that if a relationship does happen, it's 10 times more likely it'll be the man who fucks it up.

Thank you very much.

All right.

That's our show.

We're off next week and back July 12th.

I'll be at the Orpheum in Minneapolis July 13th, the Riverside in Milwaukee on the 14th, the Cobbs Render in Atlanta September 7th.

I want to thank Chris Matthews, Hostie Gabbard, and Ray Kurzweil.

Now go watch overtime on YouTube.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

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