Overtime – Episode #664: Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Rep. Adam Kinzinger

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series, Real Time with Bill Ma.

All right, here we are with the former three-term governor of the state of New York, Andrew Cuomo, and the former congressman from Illinois and founder of the country first back, Adam Kinzinger.

Okay, Governor Cuomo.

Direct question, first one off the bat for you.

Are you planning to run for mayor of New York or launch another campaign for governor?

Oh, that is a great question.

Thank you.

Much more direct than that.

And there will be no direct answer.

It's just what you do.

Come on, you two coaches.

I know you're waiting here to get out of the broad.

You know, no, no, we're not going to get anything there.

I have no current plans.

To make plans.

What are the panel's thoughts on climate activists spray painting Stonehenge?

I saw this.

Stonehenge.

I thought, now I visited Stonehenge way back, like in the 90s, when you could go right up to it.

Yeah.

And then I see they, I don't know how they got up to it because you're not supposed to.

I know they roped it off.

Is this a counterproductive tactic or a smart way to direct attention to their cause?

Come on.

This is the stupidest thing that you can do.

I just, like, it almost makes me, like, want to be on the other side of the climate climate change debate when they do that like you know like and it makes some people maybe you guys can go away if it actually does happen then right I don't I don't even

I don't even get the connection and you know I the group was called Just Stop Oil.

Do you know what spray paint is made from?

Really.

And oil is also what makes plastic, right?

Isn't that a petroleum product?

I mean, the idea that, look,

I'm all for, I would be the first one online to, you know, give up the plastic because I think plastic is one of the worst environmental things we do.

But I don't know.

I mean, like, we're so far gone.

It's like asking people to give up the remote.

Like,

if somebody said to most people, if you went back to like having to walk up to the TV, like when we were kids, you're probably too young, when we were kids, really, and you actually, would you, if that solved climate, I bet you nobody would do it.

I bet you get 5% of people who would do it.

I bet, no, I'll die younger.

Children were used as remotes back then in my house.

My father said, go change the children.

I was the remote.

How will the new pact between Russia and North Korea

disrupt the balance of power in the world?

I think it shows that Russia is increasingly desperate.

The front lines have stabilized in Ukraine.

The weapons gap is shortening.

And he has to go to North Korea to beg for weapons.

And what we find out today is South Korea is thinking about opening up their arsenal of 155, which is artillery rounds.

So this is really a bad look for Vladimir Putin.

And I think it just goes to prove he is simply trying to buy time to see if Donald Trump wins in November, and he's doing it at the cost of his people's lives.

Well, I think that's a pretty charitable way to look at it from our point of view.

From his point of view,

he's getting the we thought we could cut him off.

And it turned out that there were plenty of people in the world who said, no, we'll take your business.

He's getting his weapons from China and North Korea and Iran.

And all the people who don't like us for various reasons seem to be getting together.

I know George Bush used to love that phrase, axis of evil, when he just made it up.

It didn't really make sense back then.

This kind of really does make sense to you.

Yeah, it does.

It does.

And it is, and you could see that, you could see it happening.

You could see them joining forces against this.

But that's what happens.

See, that's the difference between when you do have a president, love him or don't love him, Biden at least is doing some pushing back against the Saxis.

And so they are driven into each other's arms out of desperation.

Russia has to go because he has had economic impacts.

Donald Trump was literally, this is what drives me nuts is when the GOP say he didn't invade under Donald Trump.

It's Ronald Reagan that said, we can have peace and we can have it tomorrow.

Surrender.

And that's what Donald Trump basically did, was giving these people everything they wanted.

He went to North Korea and wrote about love letters with Kim Jong-un.

So yeah, they're coming together, but that's at a result of a stronger U.S.

foreign policy.

Okay.

What explains the delay in the Supreme Court issuing a ruling on Trump's immunity claim?

All right.

Well, let's have one of you experts, first of all, explain what is the immunity claim.

This is one of his four trials that he was supposed to have before the election took place.

You know, don't get me started on that because I go off on that every week.

They should have done this.

They had all the time in the world.

Merrick Garland, another useless apparatchik from the Democratic Party who couldn't get it done.

The immunity claim.

This is the one where Trump is claiming that you can't put me on trial for anything because as president I can basically do anything, including kill people, right?

I had immunity.

And it's 114 days, I read, said that the Supreme Court has had this.

Is there any reason they needed 114 days to think about this?

No.

No, I mean, look, I think

obviously somebody's stalling.

It's one thing when you put out a big landmark decision like Roe versus Wade and you do it at the end of a term because, you know, abortion's been a certain policy for 50 years.

This is a time of the essence, and somebody is trying to delay.

That said, even if it comes out next week, there is still, Judge Chucken gave 88 days until the trial started.

I could see her still starting the trial in September.

Donald Trump will say it's too close to the election, and she'll say, you're the one that appealed.

I was ready to go at the beginning of the year.

So I still think it's possible that this goes.

Yeah, but you know, it's scary about this from my point of view.

The trials in New York, you're at Florida, Georgia, and two in New York.

The two trials in New York, New Yorkers said, 66%

said the justice system is politicized.

And there's nobody in New York who likes Trump.

And still, 66% said the justice system is politicized.

That's why I think he's not paying the same price for these verdicts, because they believe it is political.

And you want to talk about a threat to democracy.

When you have this country believing you're playing politics with the justice system, and you're trying to put people in jail or convict them for political reasons, then we have a real problem.

I saw two stories in the paper today about the election.

One is that Biden is slightly pulled ahead, although not in the states where it's going to matter, but nationally, which was news to me.

And then the second one was fundraising.

The trial in New York, the one he got convicted for,

was the greatest fundraising bonanza ever.

He's now, he was lagging behind Biden, and now he's pulled quite quite a bit ahead.

That trial was the greatest reason people had to send their checks for $5, $10, $25, whatever dollars to Donald Trump.

So, I mean, look,

it's a Hobson's choice always with him, because he's always guilty.

It's not like he's not guilty of any of these crimes, but

the repercussions might be worse.

I mean, this is something politicians always had to face.

Remember when Obama came to office, they were like, how can you not put those people in jail, those Wall Street people?

And Obama was like, yeah, that would feel good, and it is the right thing to do, but it's also more the wrong thing to do, because it'll tank the whole economy.

Those are the kind of tough decisions that you have to make.

So

I was always with you on the one in New York, the hush money trial.

I don't think they should have brought that one.

It was just always going to look like a sex case, and people were always just going to look at it that way.

So anyway.

That case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly, should have never been brought.

And if his name was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president from the former AG in New York, I'm telling you, that case would have never been brought.

And that's what is offensive to people.

And it should be, because if there's anything left, it's belief in the justice system.

Just heard the one about trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

That's the main thing.

To try to overthrow the government of the United States.

That's right.

But the thing we're now going to hear that.

That's right.

It's good for you for January 2.

Yeah, yes.

I saw it, but I was there.

No, I think that

the weird thing is, though, Hunter Biden, I would also say, was put in jail or was convicted

because of politics.

Of course.

And unfortunately, that never gets out.

All right, guys.

Thank you very much.

I got to run to Las Vegas.

You're a great one.

I appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

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