Overtime - Episode #514: Judd Apatow, Gov. Steve Bullock, Rahm Emanuel, Steve Schmidt

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All right.

Okay,

Rahm Emmanuel, do you think Mick Mulvaney will be thrown under the bus as Republicans try to defend Trump against impeachment?

Mick Mulvaney.

Yes, him and Rudy.

They're going to go together.

Yeah, I mean, there's no one he wouldn't throw under the bus.

Yeah, no, they're all going to go thrown both together.

You have 16 wheels, you got a lot of people, so those are the first two.

How come we don't, like, know in advance that they're going to get thrown under the bus?

He's thrown Manafort under the bus bus.

Right, Michael Cohen.

Like, don't you know going in that this ends with him discarding it?

Just like pick up the paper when they say that the president doesn't like you it's like just put the clock on and it's just a matter of hours yeah he'll be out he'll be out on the south lawn say I never heard of him yeah he's Rudy yeah yeah

Steve what do you think of the anonymous senior official in the Trump administration writing well like that book a warning which just seems like ridiculously late but I mean

yeah this anonymous he wrote the op-ed this is apparently somebody who is so on the inside that he can quote Trump on a daily basis I have trouble with this because there's only a limited number of people who it could be.

Can they find this out?

It smells fishy to me.

The whole premise of it, it's like, no shit.

I mean, he's upstairs reading the briefing books and doing his job.

I mean, he's up there reading.

But how many people could it be?

How could this person be this anonymous?

How many people are in the White House every day talking to Trump all the time, including up to now, apparently, this book goes to?

When does Melania's book come out?

Maybe the idiots just did.

Yeah, right.

Right, maybe you just.

Can I say one thing?

Look.

If you worked in the Clinton or Obama White House, you had a problem with a policy that hit you morally, you left.

I actually don't accept the notion that anonymously, I'm going to write a book about how troubled you are.

You're troubled?

Leave.

And speak honestly and not be anonymous about it and then call it all out.

Mattis, everybody that leaves, Mattis, and all the other recs, all the Tellerson, all these other people, they have not sold their soul.

You're selling your soul staying there and doing this and not being able to stand up there and say, well, here's what this is.

The other side to that is, you know, they would say, without...

They haven't protected us.

Forget about it.

I don't buy that.

But sometimes that is the argument.

Colin Powell, they said the same thing about him.

He should have left the Bush administration, and I think he did the nobler thing.

No, I'm going to stay because now I'm the only smart person in the room.

Who else is going to reign in Cheney and Rumsfeld?

Me.

He didn't do it.

He went to the United Nations and read exactly as a talking point.

You don't know everything.

You don't know what they could have.

They could have gone into Iran if he wasn't there.

We don't know what didn't happen.

No, but we do know what he had to do to stay and the price of staying when he was lip-syncing what they gave him to read at the United Nations.

Easy for you to say.

I'm scared that

suddenly I agree with Scaramucci.

You know, there is medication for that.

Yeah, he's come over.

Okay, Governor Bullock, as someone determined to get money out of politics, what are your thoughts on the news that Tom Steyer sought to pay for endorsements in Iowa?

Yeah, I mean, I've been earning endorsements the old-fashioned way.

I've been earning them, talking to people, not buying them.

I think this does show even more the overall problem.

Tom Steyer is a guy who bought his way onto the debate stage.

He's buying his way along.

And then you have one billionaire in the race, a one.

want to be billionaire in the White House.

And with all due respect to Judge Judy, I don't think we need another billionaire in this race.

Folks turn around time and time again and say their voice doesn't matter in this system.

If this election should fail.

I mean, the Kennedys were rich.

FDR was rich.

I feel like we judge people too much, not on the content of their character, but he's too young, he's too old, he's too rich.

He's just judged them on what they are saying and who they are.

Rich people could be good people.

It doesn't mean you're oblivious to the plight of the needy.

Look, I'm not saying that rich people can't be good people, but what I'm saying is that it's not a problem.

Because Judge keeps me fucking rich.

I saw the list of movies I read.

I mean, this guy isn't.

But what I'm saying is when regular voters just say their vote doesn't matter or their voice doesn't matter, when someone can turn around and say, all right, I'll spend $47 million in the last two months, just to elevate it, makes the rest of the situation.

But money doesn't always win.

Trump got outspent by Hillary two to one and beat her.

Here's what you, when you used Roosevelt and Kennedy, they didn't use their wealth as the way to prevent other people from having an opportunity.

They actually saw their role in public life is make sure other people had a chance to

walk through the door of opportunity.

And they made major changes from the GI Bill to actually also the Peace Corps to give people a chance.

And so wealth doesn't describe anything, it's what you do with your life to make a difference for other people.

That's what I was saying.

I just try to put it there in English.

That's all I would try to do.

I'm worried that it's always like a rich guy who's just done everything.

He's like, there's nothing left but to rule the world.

Sometimes you don't know if it's for us or them they're doing it.

Judd, why are you against Netflix's plan to allow users to speed up or slow down the playback of movies and TV shows?

Wait.

Have you heard about this?

Can't we do this already?

Speed up.

I'm talking about YouTube you can do it.

Oh, you're talking about the actual, like, so they're talking about the?

Yes.

Like, like, if you're on Apple and you listen to a podcast, there's a button that you go like twice as fast.

Yes.

And then they're talking about having a button so like if you just wanted to watch The The Godfather in an hour, you could do it.

Are you kidding?

And you know, comedy is timing.

So suddenly every movie I make will look like a Benny Hill sketch.

Wow.

And they must be doing this because people are demanding this?

Well, people demand all sorts of stuff.

Right.

You know, people might go like, I wish I could

watch, you know, this show with a laugh track.

Let's get a button where we'll add a laugh track to Rami.

This is probably because there's just too much content now.

There's just so many things that you want to watch.

Our attention span is shorter.

And you don't remember any of it.

This is the problem.

You don't remember any of it.

My wife and I were watching Narco Season 2, and it had been like a year since season one was on.

And we're like, is Escobar a good guy or a bad guy?

No, I could use a site.

In a couple cabinet meetings, I could have used a speed channel.

I gotta get there.

All right.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you, audience.

You're so surprised.

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