Overtime – Episode #415 (Originally aired 2/17/17)

Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, No, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

Aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Miller.

All right.

Well, let's start with you, Mila.

Why did you single out a transgender student for ridicule during a recent speech you made on her campus?

Did you do that?

Well, yes.

First of all, wasn't a student.

He had already left the university.

And I make no apologies for protecting women and children from men who are confused about their sexual identity.

I'm confused about who this is because pronouns are so important.

If you call Caitlin Jenner he, you're a bad person.

So I did it on purpose.

You did.

So this is a man.

I'm misgendered

person.

Right.

So this is a man, born man, who wants to.

Who thinks that he might be a girl?

Okay.

And you have a problem with that.

No, I don't have a problem with it, but I think that women

and girls should be protected from having people, men who are confused about their sexual identities in their bathrooms.

That person.

That's not unreasonable.

That person who was an activist activist who took their own university to court to force his way into

the female locker rooms had already left college by the time I gave that speech.

And that was totally

misreported by the press, just like they misreport everything else.

Jack, where do you stand on weirdos people?

Well, it sounds like

you just call transgender people weirdos?

Just to fuck with him.

That's really rude.

I think you two are doing a great job with this topic.

I'm going to

tell you to keep going with it.

I don't really know anything.

I'm just a popster artist.

I just think it's sad because the same arguments that we use against gay people, treating them like aliens who just wanted to fuck anything that moved, and that's why we should avoid them at all public.

No, I think it's not.

Well, let me finish my thought, please.

You know,

no, it's true.

There's a difference without a distinction because it's using the same type of arguments.

It's like when people try to compare gay and black.

Yeah, they're not the same thing.

We share an invisibility.

You know, people didn't see us in society, and gay people

hid out from society.

But there were a lot of the same issues that you have to deal with when you're marginalized.

You understand?

People can't discriminate.

Well, no, that's a group that's marginalized, and so the attack, you can always find an extreme person that becomes the object of your attack to assign that to everybody.

So if you say, well, that person is weird, or they want to commit sexual assault, then everybody thinks all transgender people want to do is commit sexual assault.

Well, they aren't disproportionately involved in those kinds of crimes.

They're what?

Vastly disproportionately involved in sex crime.

Who is?

Yes.

What's the statistic?

I don't know.

That's not a controversial statistic.

And frankly,

and frankly, you know,

you're saying, you know, you're suggesting these people are the victims of some kind of discrimination.

Well, I'm saying to you, this is a psychiatric disorder.

I didn't say discrimination.

This is a psychiatric disorder.

I said marginalized.

Like identity disorder or like sociopathy or something, you know?

I don't want these people around little girls involved.

No, no, no.

Here's what I'm saying.

I said, this is what I said, the same argument we used against gay people.

You should do your homework because...

It was wrong then.

No, but now.

That's perfectly wrong.

No, no, no.

Homosexuality was called a disorder.

It was a psychological disorder.

It is, I think.

You're very disordered.

Well,

maybe you are.

Maybe it is.

But most homosexuals are not.

You know what?

No, I think most gays, most gays have a long road, actually.

Most gays have a long road to coming to terms with the sexuality.

And

because of the way society treats us.

No, no, no.

Of course it isn't W retreat.

No, of course it's the way society treats people.

If society said we're fine with gay people and it's 1890, you think in 1990 people are going to have to be...

If I can't produce child for the person I love,

if I can't produce a child.

All I know is this.

I have one quick question.

I'm not a journalist, and I may just be an old spy, but

you were talking about confusion.

Were we talking about you?

What?

Because you sound very confused.

You were talking about people being confused about their sexuality, their position in the world.

You know, I mean, I've been to Port Said in Naples, and you look like you've been there a few times.

But

because you seem to be very confused about who you are and what you are.

I'm pulling your wallet out, sweetheart.

Yeah, that's all right, shipmate.

Say, do you always have to fight with everybody?

Don't, you're having such a nice time, but you always invite such awful people on your show.

These are so stupid.

No, come on.

You need to

start inviting higher IQ guests or this is going to be a disaster.

First of all,

these are very hard.

Wait, hold on, Bill.

You can go fuck yourself, all right?

Yeah.

Hold on a second.

No, no, no, Dad.

And I'll let you know, Jack.

If this is the faithfulness.

Your argument is that these people are stupid.

You didn't hear a word this man said early in this segment because he can talk circles around your pathetic fiche little ass for me.

And I gotta defend them.

And one last thing, and I'll let you defend it.

I'll let you defend it.

Leslie Jones is not barely literate.

Go fuck yourself again for that one.

No, read it.

She's a famous spat for person and very literally.

Go ahead.

Excuse me.

Excuse me.

She can barely spell.

Larry, I'm...

I'm a great fan of yours, man.

I'm a fan of yours.

We are all about the First Amendment here, and Myla.

Go for it, brother, because I think what they did for you at Berkeley was a great idea.

Talk about Strange Bedford.

No, are you kidding me?

Why would that be Strange Bedford?

He'd be so handsome.

That wouldn't be Strange Bedford.

We'd make a lovely couple.

We'd make a couple of people.

We'd make a beautiful couple.

I mean, beautiful couple.

You know, you're a relative.

He's white, so I say no.

I know you'd make a beautiful couple.

Shut up for one fucking second.

Really, I mean, look, this is the beginning of your career.

People are only just starting to hate you.

I've got so many more years.

I'm just saying, you have the potential to morph.

I mean, you remind me of a young, gay, alive Christopher Hitchens.

Yeah, but you've gotta lose that kind of shit by telling people.

This guy has done things that allowed you to fucking live.

You know, it's just

Marlon, what we will do.

What we will do.

I don't know Larry that well.

I do know Malcolm very well.

Malcolm and I have debated many times.

We have become friends.

The four of us are going to go out and buy beer together, right?

Republicans with our magic R will pay for it, okay?

Well,

I beat it.

I don't know because unlike the rest of the people in the panel,

I have just one quick question.

Yes, it is.

Are you the real true face of the alt-right?

Because I thought the Nazis were in there.

How do they take you on board?

This is one of the enduring mysteries of American media.

How can this movement be an anti-Semitic, white supremacist, hateful, bigoted, racist, homophobic movement and

who never shuts up about his black boyfriend as the head of it?

Something's not quite right.

Yeah,

they're not all your fans.

Some of them are your fans.

No, they hate me.

They hate me.

I'm saying this.

Then I like you.

Well, they don't all hate you.

You see, this is what the media doesn't report.

The Daily Stormer hates me.

They declared holy war against me.

The worst people on the very far left and the very far right all hate me.

They all hate me.

Okay.

I think you're leaving on a lot of people.

But you're welcome here.

You see?

It's huge.

You see, it's a threat.

There you go.

That was the president of all the people.

That's a perfect example of how humor can bring people together.

Congressman, Jack Kingston, what?

I don't want a question.

This is going real well.

I'm just going to sit here.

What evidence of voter fraud have you seen that leads you to believe Donald Trump's claims?

Yeah, Donald Trump and that guy we showed, Stephen Miller, said, I will corroborate the president.

100%.

Two to three million people voted illegally.

I mean, this is one of those alt facts that has been disproved.

There have not been anywhere near this kind of amount of people who voted illegally.

You're not really on that train, are you?

There are some concerns.

1.8 million people who are dead are registered to vote.

Why did they do that?

That's not the same thing.

No, that's not the same thing.

We're talking about in-person voter fraud.

I heard the word.

The people on the rolls who are dead are not showing up to vote.

That's what he said.

They are.

Yes, they are.

Some of them are.

Democrat fraud.

Not this Democrat fraud.

It's a fraud.

Democracy.

Jack.

Give me some of those.

Okay, there are 20 million people who are improperly registered, and we're concerned about those.

That's a piece of money.

There were four cases of in-person voting fraud.

75% or three of them were Trump voters trying to prove there was voting fraud.

The only voter fraud.

The only voter fraud was getting the American people to believe the false equivalency of Bed Hillary and Trump were of equal horribleness.

Right.

And that's the lipstick.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Saudi was way worse.

She's way worse.

Excuse me.

Laverie should be a good person.

Should be pandas to gaze while taking money from Saudi Arabia.

I'll take Trump any fucking day.

Wait, you'll take Russian spies over Saudis?

Okay, thanks.

Actually,

actually, wow.

I probably would.

Are you American?

No.

Fuck off.

Are you kidding me?

I'm going to hurt you.

I'm going to jerk off all day over this.

Are you kidding me?

No, look, I got two out of three.

I got two out of three.

Go fuck yourselves.

I've got one more.

Come on.

What do we disagree?

It's not going to happen.

It's not going to happen.

Oh, come on.

I only said it after you thought.

What do we disagree?

We're going to disagree with something.

I need to get a fuck you from the throne.

All right, all right.

It's not going to happen.

All right, all right.

Fuck you.

Shut up.

Larry, should comedians agree to perform at the White House Correspondence Dinner?

This is a big controversy.

Absolutely lootly.

Are you kidding me, Blair?

I mean, what?

I'm reading a question.

Oh, I know.

Yes.

Bill, what are you saying?

Yes.

No, Bill, I mean, this is, to go along with the whole free speech thing.

What an opportunity.

You have Donald Trump, the president there, Donald Jun Ng, right?

I mean,

you have the opportunity to stand right next to him and do comedy.

You're going to give that.

It was the comedy at that event that made him run for president.

Yes.

No, there's a lot of rich irony in there.

I don't care who the comedian is, if you're asked to do that, do not turn that down.

It's a great opportunity.

Okay.

Malcolm, what do you think the relationship is between WikiLeaks and the Trump administration?

Well.

First off, for everyone who really thinks Wikileaks is this, you know, free-spirited, you know, transparency organization, You can just put that to bed.

They are a laundromat for Russian intelligence.

They were the conduit for all of the stolen emails and they were pretty open about it.

Now what's really funny about this is when I wrote this in my book.

For the number of emails that were hacked, stolen, all the voicemails, everything for 10 months was stolen from the DNC, and then all these other things.

I've done operations of a similar size.

It would take 300 people working 12 on 24 hour shifts,

eight hour watch shifts to analyze all that data.

And then they were doing these precision data dumps.

Trump would talk about Pennsylvania.

Within 96 hours, every email about Pennsylvania that had ever been sent to the DNC was released.

There was one 400-pound guy in his bedroom.

No, it was 300 drunk-ass Russian guys in their bedroom.

Actually, working in an operations center, human intelligence officers, political warfare officers.

A massive effort had to take.

Why didn't the DNC

make their computers a little more secure?

Well, you know, the DNC is a private entity like the RNC.

So the RNC was smart enough to take action.

No, no, no, no.

That's what I'm saying.

No, no, no, no.

I mean, shit.

Let me explain something very, very quickly.

I work for the NNC.

If we want to dedicate the resources to you, we will get into your system.

The Russians just decided they were working for you.

How do you do it?

They were working for you.

They worked for you.

The party of Ronald Reagan.

Tear down the wall.

The big enemy, Russia.

Now they're your friend.

No, that's the party over country.

Well, that's all.

Thank you very much.

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