Overtime – Episode #406 (Originally aired 10/07/16)

Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

Aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Moss.

What did you make of Bill Clinton's comments that Obamacare was a crazy thing?

Oh, yeah, that was a little crazy.

Is the campaign going to be able to keep him from going rogue?

No, he was saying that it was crazy that people qualified for the subsidies, and then in between, which Hillary had talked about having a way that they could get into the health insurance, too.

He's praised Obamacare a gazillion times.

He did not say that.

But I mean, let's be honest.

As long as the profit motive is still in the equation, it's never really going to work.

I mean, it's going to work.

People are going to have more coverage than they should.

But as long as you cannot stop it on one end of the equation, that is, people can charge as much as they can.

The EpiPen, you know, I mean, this kind of thing is

just

a very good thing.

They tried it in Vermont.

They couldn't make it work.

It's working better than before.

No, I'm talking about single payer in Vermont.

No, but what we have,

what President Obama has done with the Democrats passed, it may not be working as well as you want.

It was working better than the system they had before.

The uninsured rate is dropping.

Obamacare was one of the most important and most difficult startups of all time.

Of course.

But you have to understand, it's still a startup.

And any big company like that, any big startup like that, they're going to have issues, and you've got to improve it, and they will.

It's not just that.

It comes back to what we were talking about, the tax code.

Part of the the problem is the big Barma companies buy the system.

They give to both sides.

The first thing that happened on the first day of the Obamacare negotiations is they agreed they were never going to negotiate on prescription drug prices because they were in debt to the companies.

If everything you say is true,

if everything you say is true, it's true.

There are more people insured today, a lot more.

So let's take some good news.

Sure, of course.

Let's take some good news.

You're right.

The pharmaceutical department is...

But let's take some good news.

All right, well.

We're here to talk about issues, not goodness, this isn't the lollipop hour.

I'm just saying, beginning to, can't we say something nice about you?

All right, let's this is Mr.

Positive over here.

Let's get a question to him.

Yellow, some good news.

All right.

Come on, Mondo.

All right.

Pitbull, why did you get involved in the charter school movement?

Well, I mean, for the simple fact that it's real simple, a lot of people aren't like what we're talking about right now.

You know, we're talking about a lot of things as far as change.

You know, when it comes to politics and politicians, I call it politrix.

I think it's a lot of bullshit.

They say a lot.

They do a whole lot of nothing.

So when it comes to the kids, if you're able to tap into a young mind, teach it how to believe in itself, focus, work hard, inspire it, motivate it, then guess what?

They're able to grow and make educated decisions.

So therefore, my mother always told me the biggest diseases in the world, the two biggest diseases in the world, ignorance and greed, which we see we're suffering from it right now with Trump running as we speak, you know,

I want to be able to show these kids, hey, as you get older, at least you know the decision you make, you can stick by it because you know where you were well informed.

Let me push back a little on something you said there about politrix.

It is politics.

Mostly what they do is nothing.

I think that's a very dangerous message because that makes people just turn off and go, oh, they're all alike, they're all full of shit.

Actually, here in California, we have a Democratic governor and we have a Democratic legislature, so we've been able to do great things.

When politicians actually want to work together and you have the right ones, they do things.

And that's a reason why we we had Medicare before that.

Yeah, I still think they're full of shit, to be honest with you, Bill.

But you know what?

Maybe you need

to be from a different side of tracks.

Maybe you need to get into the details.

And the devil's in the details.

And I know the devil is my motherfucking cousin, to be honest with you.

But with that said,

this is what I'm trying to tell you.

Look, when politicians come out, they talk a whole got you know a great game.

And mind you, we're talking about climate change.

You're talking about what they did for California.

We're talking about California's, what, is it in a drought right now?

let me just tell you something.

So before

Lyndon Johnson came along, and you know this better than I do, and passed Medicare, senior poverty, old people who lived in poverty because they didn't have pensions and stuff, was something around 40%.

It reduced it to something like nine.

Okay, that's actual change.

That's something that I can't speak about because I don't know the details on that.

That's what I'm telling you.

They even think about what you're telling me.

Then don't say they're all full of shit and they don't do anything.

Okay, so I'm telling you about China.

So let's get political about this shit.

Majority of them are full of shit.

Well, then don't vote for those.

But

you have to learn who to vote for.

But that's a dangerous thing because that says if they're all full of shit, then Hillary and Trump are equal.

I mean, that's a dangerous thing.

That's not a problem.

That's very dangerous.

Amondo, what Bill is saying, I can say that many are full of shit.

I'm with you.

Everybody like that.

But

they are full of shit.

Majority of them are full of shit.

And I just think that politics has become a propaganda as we see it right now.

I watch Hillary and I watch Donald Trump and it looks like the fucking WWF.

I'm calling for somebody.

It's not.

It's not.

You know, what you're saying about charter schools, I'm afraid, is the bullshit that you're denouncing.

You know, you look at the places in the world that have schools that are doing really well, they do the opposite of the charter school privatization model.

Think about Finland.

What they do is, it's got the best schools in the world, they fucking pay their teachers really well.

That's what we should be arguing for.

That's not charter schools.

I agree 150% with you, by the way.

And if you were to look into our model, our teachers are very well incentivized.

But this is more than anything.

This is about flipping education and making it exciting for the kids.

Sure, but the countries that

are not in a public school system, places that have succeeded have done that without the partial privatization.

Not everything you need to learn is exciting.

Yeah.

Correct.

And that's why we flipped it with sports.

That's why we flip the curriculum.

If we're talking about data analytics and they're in algebra or their geometry, whatever it may be,

they'll do fantasy football.

They'll do, if it's X, Y, Z, then we'll do, hey, it's a 60-yard line, X amount of time on the clock, and they need this many points.

Like, we find a way to make it exciting.

We flip the curriculum.

That's why it's called SLAM, Sports Leadership.

I agree, but you've got to do that within the public system, not this.

It's not.

This is the moral system.

90%, 92% of the kids in my school are on free lunch, my friend.

These are all the ones that come from the neighborhood that I come from, which is little Havana, my friend.

Of course, there are administrators.

They come from

individual charter schools.

Look, I come from a neighborhood that says don't talk about it, be about it, partner.

That's the reactor.

No, it's uh-oh, the pit bulls come.

No, no, no.

So, I'm talking about

numbers, let's talk.

Let me sneak.

You don't want to see him.

No, no, no.

He's not going to bite.

He'll hump your leg.

But anyway.

From that moment when I said to push that much.

I was hoping you're not having bikes then.

Oh, oh, Armando.

No, but here, listen to this.

Now, your governor in Florida, Rick Scott.

Oh, man.

Huge asshole.

Okay.

How did he make his money?

Medicare.

Cheating.

So a state with mostly retired, not mostly, but like the largest percentage of retirement, elect a guy who cheated old people.

A state that is in danger of global warming elected a global warming denier.

And part of Obamacare is a Medicaid expansion.

That's part of it.

Republican governors blocked it.

Now, when they voted for the governor last time, if they had voted Charlie Christ in, he would have been down with the Medicaid expansion.

And something like 800,000 people in that state would have gotten health care.

800,000 people don't have it because they elected this asshole.

And that really is.

You see, the devil is really in the details.

You're right.

And it affects personality.

If somebody needs health care now, all those people, they cannot get it.

And one thing on my end, guys, I want you to understand.

I'm a person that came from nothing to something.

I really don't understand a lot of things.

I'm learning as I go.

And I'm the kind of person that admits when I'm wrong.

I'm the kind of person that admits when I don't know certain things.

And I get thrown in the world of politrix.

You know, I get thrown in this world because they feel like they want to, you know, pull in our culture.

And they want to, obviously, they go for that vote.

So there's a lot of things that I'm learning as I go, and I'm always here for advice.

But one thing I am is very, very passionate.

But Pit Bell, let me just make a point.

I just want to make sure you guys know that.

I'm far from perfect.

Far from perfect.

I just want you to, in my state in Louisiana, which is a very poor state, one of the poorest states in the earth, we had a governor that did not expand Medicaid.

We had hundreds of thousands of people that needed insurance that didn't have it.

We elected a new governor, and he did it.

He changed people's lives.

It is not the same.

Right.

And I was saying, I understand what you're saying, but it made distinctions.

It's so easy to sit back and go, oh, they're all crooks and they're all liars and they're all this.

But actually,

when you elect the right people, like a certain lady who's running,

you know

their focus really they may have their foibles we all do we have to recruit from the human race none of us are perfect some of us use the wrong email server oh my god

but basically this is a person who her whole life is focused on how can i make people's lives actually better i do agree there are those people out there

You saw the dangers of the degeneration of the debate this week when it came to the reaction to the vice presidential debate.

Tim Kaine made a really important point, which is that Donald Trump thinks A, there should be more nuclear weapons in the world, and B, it should be easier to use them.

And the reaction to everyone was, God, didn't Tim Kaine sound like a whiny bitch?

Oh, he did.

Wasn't he annoying?

I'll tell you what's annoying, dying in a nuclear explosion.

That would be significantly more lifespan if Donald Trump is.

I couldn't agree more.

You know, we need to have a more serious discussion.

It's why I love doing this show.

Right, and the idiot media is like, well, Mike Pence won the debate because his demeanor was better.

His demeanor was better, but he lied his ass off.

I think there's a thing, and there's something called, you wouldn't know this, but I think there's a thing called the Eighth Commandment.

What?

I think that's something about thou shalt not lie.

I actually think that was what that's one of them.

That's the East Commandment.

No, the Eighth.

I think I'm going back to my Calvinist quote.

I think that's the thing.

He just lied the whole time.

And people in the media were saying, he did great.

He just lied his ass off.

There was something.

Does he speak Hispaniola?

I don't know what the fuck.

I don't understand what I'm saying, Ma.

No?

I understand what you're saying.

I'm just kidding.

You know what it is?

I can't understand you because I smoke too much.

I gotta go.

Thank you, everybody.

Yes, sir.

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