Overtime – Episode #402 (Originally aired 08/05/16)

Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

AKA Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Maud.

All right.

We are here back.

Rick Centurum.

How can you reassure evangelical voters that Donald Trump won't change positions again on issues like abortion?

He has kind of flipped left on that one.

Look,

I will tell you that

I campaigned against Donald Trump in a primary and he was all over the map.

And here's what I believe.

I believe that he is a Republican.

I believe that he has surrounded himself with Republicans on his campaign.

I believe he's appointed people like Christie, like Pence, who are

to admit that.

How many will terrorist

Democrats bewait Donald Trump?

Terror will back

this up.

Personnel is policy.

It's who you surround yourself with.

Sure.

It's who's going to, and Trump has been pretty clear.

I mean, he's surrounded himself, his picks on the court.

I mean, he's all surrounded.

He's all in.

Not his his campaign, though.

His campaign has a bunch of Democrats in it.

From Michael Cohen to Amarosa.

There's not very many people

that he's surrounding himself with.

Well, some of those are personal friends.

And, you know, look, it makes him interested.

Yeah, but even you can attest to this: that a campaign is a microcosm of how you would govern.

And this has been a disaster.

It's a disaster.

It's a clown show.

Every week, they don't know what they're doing.

So that's a concern for me.

With all due respect, this clown show beat 16 other folks who had a lot, including me,

who had a lot, in many cases, a lot more money and a lot better staff and a lot better organization.

But that's partially why, because there were 16

other groups.

Even when it got down to two or three vanity campaigns,

I think this is the new normal.

And

I think the celebratization of politics, I think you're making a lot of time.

The celebratization of politics and the use of social media is transforming politics.

And

we better get our hands around it.

Jeff Ross, you're always trying to make friends, always trying to bridge gaps.

That's what I love about Jeff Ross.

There's no question he has momentum.

I think Civilization had a great run.

Time to try something new.

Terrible.

Terrible.

Rob Reiner, does your upcoming biopic LBJ characterize him more or less favorably than other recent portrayals?

Well, what's the last one was all the way?

Right, I guess that's.

Well, I think what I tried to do is humanize him.

I mean, he's the Woody Harrelson.

Yes, Woody Harrelson, who's absolutely brilliant in it.

I mean, off the charts, brilliant.

He showed us a lot of things.

He showed us the makeup.

He showed us dancing, remember, on this phone?

But LBJ was a very complicated character, a very complicated person.

He was almost Shakespearean

in a way.

I mean, he was at odds with himself.

He was very tremendously insecure, and at the same time, tremendously effective as a legislator.

So, you know, many people have said if it had not been for the Vietnam War, he would have gone down as a great president when you think about the accomplishments he had with Medicare and the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act and Medicaid and

Head Start.

I mean, he did.

Not everyone is for those programs.

No, no, I understand.

No.

You say it like it's a universally accepted program.

I think people do like Medicare.

They do.

Well, they do.

Even the Republicans are a lot of people.

Yeah, but

the war on poverty, a couple trillion dollars later has been an ultimate failure.

And the whole thing about poverty.

Yeah.

Excuse me.

The war on poverty has been a disaster.

You're kidding?

Have you been to any urban cities lately?

Look at it as a population.

Look at the state.

Look at the state of the senior state of

urban America today versus 50 years ago.

And you tell me that the state of urban America today is better than it was 10 old years ago.

That's right.

It's a disaster.

But Medicare was a big part of the war on poverty.

The war on poverty

is an overarching name.

And they're going broad.

Wait a second.

Before Before the war on poverty in Medicare, something like 28% of seniors lived in poverty.

Now it's under 10.

That's called a success.

Except that it's going broke.

Except that you'll never see it.

I'll never see it.

It's going broke.

The idea of providing health care.

It's going to broke in like 2040.

The idea of civil rights.

The idea of providing health care is one thing.

The way it's provided is just a very important thing.

And what about the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act?

Republicans, Republicans.

And no, by the way,

no one is Democrats.

That's true.

That's true.

And it turned the South into Republicans.

Sensible people on the left, by the way,

sensible Democrats are for fixing it.

As I recall, President Obama wanted a grand bargain, and so did John Boehner.

Who stopped it?

On entitlement reform?

The rednecks in your party.

No.

Absolutely.

The Tea Party.

John Boehner.

Excuse me.

John Boehner and Barack Obama wanted to have a grand bargain a few years ago on this.

Obama's the one who put entitlement reform on the table for a little bit of tax raising of the tax.

What did he propose?

He proposed nothing.

He put it on the table, said, I'd do it, but he proposed nothing.

Then why did nobody receive it?

Why did Boehner want the deal?

Look,

we need to have entitlement reform.

We need to have a bipartisan deal on that.

But the president has to lead, and he didn't.

You know, you never give the other guy credit for anything.

I give him credit when he leads.

He didn't lead.

Oh, please.

Can I ask us a question?

Jeff, who would be your dream roast?

That guy.

Thank you.

Come on.

Lip up some gravy.

Let's go.

That's...

Who's going to bring the booties?

What I'd like to understand is, if you're both Republicans,

help me understand how one can go for Trump and one couldn't.

What's the one issue?

What do you grab onto where that pushes you over to endorse him after being a- Well, I'm not the one making excuses for him, so

she's a common person.

I understand.

It's a little different.

Right.

So you feel beholden to the party.

No, no, no, no, not necessarily

what it is, but I mean, Rick has been in the arena.

Right.

You know, sitting senator two terms.

Yeah, that's a little different than someone like you or me or Tara who just talks.

Okay, well, that's for now.

I didn't just talk, though.

I worked on Capitol Hill for many years and did many things that affected people's lives.

No, I worked for an office holder, but it affects people's lives.

I mean, office holders don't do anything without their staff, so it's not like I haven't done anything.

It is a little different to hold the office.

No, absolutely, because there is a certain, there's a lot of conflict.

I have friends on Capitol Hill, you know, other congressmen who are,

they're tormented over this decision because they feel a certain obligation to

the party and to their constituents who want to vote for this guy.

But at some point, you have to stand up like Adam Kensinger just did and say, you know, I'm an American first, and this is unacceptable.

And Donald Trump doesn't doesn't really represent what we do.

We would never put up with this.

We are criticizing, people are making excuses for Donald Trump that they would never allow a Democrat to get away with and I think that's hypocritical.

Okay, let's get away from politics for our last question before our break.

Olivia R wants to know, will Brazil be able to pull off the Rio Olympics without any major health or security event?

Security event, maybe.

Health, I don't think so.

I've got to say,

what a shit i mean i remember reading about brazil only a few years ago like they were the new right big boy country on the block and now i read that they pour the sewage right into the water without treating it

you know you know the of the 50 cities uh the most violent cities in the world Brazil has 21 of them.

Yeah.

64,000 murders a year.

How much did they pay the Olympic Committee to get to get the Olympics?

Because they never should have been.

Rio never should have been selected.

It was ridiculous.

I mean, it was only a year after this election that Brazil went into a major recession.

It's corrupt.

Their president is impeached, for goodness sakes.

And people were rioting in the streets because of eminent domain.

The Olympics come in and they take people's houses and they think they make all these promises.

But the people there are the ones suffering.

But it used to be when you were told.

Why are we giving it to countries that can't sustain it?

It used to be when you got the Olympics.

You got your shit together.

Right.

Yep.

You know, it was like, this is our moment.

The world's going to be looking at us.

Well, now their shit's in the water.

Good night, everybody.

Thank you very much.

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