#630: Red Wings

See, the old cue would have been out trying to find Lady Gaga at a party with.

Yeah, I know.

I'm still jet-setting, you know, high-flying.

Teddy's getting a haircut right now.

Oh, yeah?

All right.

Let's see.

Let's talk about that a little bit.

Tell him, Steve, Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave.

Walt, your eyes are bugging out of your head.

What's going on?

I'm getting ready.

Yeah, sucked up.

I'm getting ready.

He's giving my game face on.

Yeah, all right.

I put some smelling salts under my nose while I was in the bathroom.

I'm fucking amped.

Yeah, you're ready to go?

Yeah.

No, get him this week.

He didn't put out a mic for himself.

He said, nobody wants to hear from him.

Wow.

I don't know if that's true, but we'll see.

See if there's an outpouring of.

On Reddit, yeah.

Like, where's Gidem?

We want him back.

Oh, boy.

And Q.

Yes.

Back from last week,

I got a spy report.

Q was running around with the likes of Adam Ray.

I was in Toronto, yeah.

There you went?

Yeah.

Very warmly received by the Canadians.

No issues whatsoever.

Who's Adam Ray?

He's a stand-up comedian, entertainer, buddy of mine.

Is he Canadian?

He is not, but

he tours as he does this great act as Dr.

Phil.

Remember Dr.

Phil, right?

Yeah.

So he does an imitation of Dr.

Phil and does live shows in character as Dr.

Phil, and it has taken off.

It's hysterical.

People love it.

It's so fucking funny.

And, you know, it's getting hotter and hotter.

And he tours now and he needs guests for every show.

And he texted me and asked if I would fly to Toronto to sit in with him.

I was like, sure, I'll do it.

Had a blast.

Yeah, good time.

Oh, it was great.

Harlan Williams was there.

You know, remember Harlan Williams?

Their name is.

He's got a podcast now called Harlan Highway, but he was in Half Baked.

Remember Half Baked?

Yeah, yeah.

He's the white guy, the skinny white guy.

And he's the guy, you know, something about Mary.

Six-minute abs, seven-minute.

He's got a podcast that's so fucking funny.

It's great.

So he was on the show, too, so I got to meet him, so I was pretty excited.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of running around.

Who spied on me?

I got spies out there everywhere.

In an inner circle spy, I heard.

Really?

Yeah.

Really?

That's what you heard?

That's how I knew where he was?

I didn't even tell anybody where I was going.

Has to be somebody in the inner circle then that's giving Brian

updates on Q's information.

Who would it be?

Valuable information.

Unless I think about it.

Well, either way,

I had a good time.

He slipped an AirPods or one of those AirPods in your

tag jacket.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good.

Yeah, it it was a good

back to work, back to shooting, you know.

What'd you do in Toronto?

I just, oh no, I was there.

I was there for like, I had like 12 hours to spare, so it was like literally an in-and-out situation.

I didn't do anything.

Oh, 12 hours isn't enough time?

That's a long time.

Well, you got to sleep for six of them.

I mean,

I don't need a show for three of them.

The BQI knew fucking.

You got to drive from the airport there.

That takes an hour.

It wasn't so full of excuses as to why he wasn't partying.

Did you party at all afterwards?

Zero partying.

Zero.

Zero partying.

I was in bed by midnight.

Because it was also the time change.

I was losing an hour's sleep.

And then I had an 8 a.m.

flight because I had to get back.

I only had that small window.

So it was a lot.

I would have loved to party.

Gone to the brass rail.

I knew I feared this day would come.

And I'm sure a lot of listeners now are.

It's very sad to hear this kind of like

dancing

that he's doing because he's not seeing it

in the same cue that he was.

You've not seen it for the forest of the trees.

I've hopped on an international flight to go fuck around.

I had dreams of it.

International, you're the call.

Just because.

Internationale, my friends.

But

the time didn't change.

It doesn't matter.

When you got there, it was still the same time as it was in Spanish.

That's it.

So it's Cuba.

What do you want?

That don't mean anything.

Like, I'm just saying, is it?

Cuba?

Okay.

But my point is, like, you know, I'm I'm still.

Get him, check that.

Do something.

I'm still jet-setting, you know, high-flying.

You didn't have jet lag.

It sounds like you might have.

I mean, you are.

You're only days away from 49.

It's okay, but it's still, it's okay, but it's still a little sad.

It's like, man, it's like.

I don't think that that's.

You know, Tom Brady, when he threw that last pass, everybody kind of knew it.

I knew it.

It was time.

What am I giving up exactly?

What is the time for?

Man, man, persona.

Wild man.

The one you guys started

and perpetrated all these years.

Oh, no.

You've rolled right into it.

You loved every moment of it.

I got my tooth knocked out.

I never knew once.

Got a hole burned in my pants

down in Nashville.

I mean, yeah,

when you went on these international flights in the past, you were getting teeth knocked out.

You were in ballroom.

Is it brawl room?

Oh, ballroom.

Cortillions?

Yeah, the cartillions, yeah.

Now you're just like, I went to bed.

I had to, man.

You know,

I also very.

Time

remains undefeated.

Well, no argument there.

Zero losses.

Zero losses.

A goat.

It's the ultimate goat, man.

Take him all.

Name him.

He got him.

Not us.

Not yet.

Not today.

Not today.

We live to pod one one more day.

So you guys did an episode last week?

We did one.

Yeah, Sunday, Jeff.

Went well.

Good.

Sunday.

Zero controversy.

We're back.

I feel.

Within a pod, there's controversy.

I feel like kind of.

People like

us and they got us.

What do you mean?

Like, they were pleased with the content.

I think so.

You know, we announced the Tim Pod.

It's up for sale.

Oh, excellent.

Okay.

And that is a great one.

Yeah, I feel that one hits the all the

crosses all the T's, dots all the I's of what you're looking for in a TSD episode, and it's up now available on Bandcamp.

Thank you to all those, and there were plenty of you who came out and support the pod.

And

I talked to Tim, and he is very appreciative, and he's trying to figure a way out to show that appreciation to the ants.

He says he's

trying to come up with an idea to just let everyone know how touched he is with the turnout and the response.

Oh, wow, man.

Just go to Bandcamp and put in Tim the Record Store clerk, right?

And it should pop right up.

Yeah, TESD benefit Tim the Record Store Clerk.

Over 90 minutes of TSD content and some good laughs,

some good games, and I think it'll be

$4.99 well spent.

Yeah.

Well spent.

Going towards to help all the proceeds, 100% going towards Tim's care in this fight he's in now.

Yeah, it's a great episode.

I remember we recorded it after a regular episode one day.

And I remember the regular episode being like, all right, you know, not every week's a home run.

And then we

started that.

Why can't we hit home runs every time like Barry Bonds?

We can.

How can we art?

I don't know.

All the time.

Can we blame it on all the time?

Sure can, yeah.

Why not?

Us, the audience, everything.

But I remember we did the Tim one and we had such a fucking blast.

I was driving home and I was like, I kind of wish the Tim one was a regular one.

It was so much fun.

Yeah, it's a great episode.

I think people will like it.

Yeah.

Sometimes when the episodes are structured, they come out very little.

Yeah.

When they have a point.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right.

How many points today?

Are we just...

I got some points, but they're not good ones.

I'm hoping that Teddy had a big weekend.

Teddy's getting a haircut right now.

Oh, yeah?

All right.

Let's see.

Talk about that a little bit.

Somebody

on set today was talking about King Charles

released a playlist

of his favorite songs.

Did you hear about those?

The Prince of

The King of Britain did a DJ on Spotify

and just DJ'd his favorite songs, like spoken between them and stuff like that.

And do you know the

one that's going to be like that might be a fun game?

I was like, that might be a fun game if we all try to guess what's on it.

How old is King Charles at this point?

I don't.

I'm at the end of my King Charles.

He used to know so much about Brit fucking people.

He's got to be in his late 70s, right?

Oh.

His mom was like a kid.

I'm going to say a lot of Beatles.

That's what I thought.

Beatles, right?

Rolling Stone.

Yeah.

Oh, don't put it up, Kenneth.

We should guess.

He's 76.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow, he's younger than my dad.

You know, he's going to have to put some current things on there because he wants to remain hip.

That's a great point.

He's going to want to remain hip.

He's going to want to put international flavors on there.

All right, well, Varai's going over his.

I'll try to remember some of the

points that you want to get on.

Well, this is before we get to Prince Charles or King Charles.

This one's musical about Gene Simmons being absolutely pathetic.

Kiss front man Gene Simmons is charging $12,000 to be his personal assistant for one day.

Wait, what?

I have to pay him to be his personal assistant.

You've got to pay him to work for him.

Now, there are certain.

When does it end with this guy?

Whenever.

That's why when I saw this, I was like, you got to be fucking kidding me with this dude.

How do you need 12 grand at this point?

Because it's only one person.

You're right.

It's not like, hey, I'm taking 10 of you or 20 of you.

It's one person.

He's got to spend the day with a stranger?

Yep.

Not only does he have to spend the day with a stranger, not only will the lucky fan do manual labor help setting up the band show, but they will sit in on the sound check, arrive at the venue with the band, and hang out backstage.

That's pretty cool, though.

That's pretty cool.

Sure.

I'm sure he's not going to really treat it like a roadie.

You know, that's just like it's a, it's like be quote-unquote treat it like a roadie, but I'm sure he'll be treated very, very well.

I'm curious.

Okay, so he also promises for the hefty price tag of $12,500, it will be big enough for the big, will be enough for the big spender to have a meal with the rocker, either at a hotel or backstage at the show, and be brought up on the stage during the concert and introduced to the crowd.

What show?

Kiss?

look, Gene's doing solo

now.

He's a solo artist now.

Of course.

How old is he?

He's in his 70s.

He's 70.

Yeah, he's 75, I think.

Wow.

So Prince Charles is older than Pennsylvania.

75, yeah.

He's younger.

74, right?

No, 70.

Yeah, 74.

Yeah, he's younger than.

Prince Charles looks rough.

Does.

Gene still looks like a fucking

demon.

Well, that's the face paint.

Yeah, here it is.

No, even without his makeup, he still looks good.

He, yeah.

How could he be doing this?

How?

You don't need an extra $12,500.

Look, I'm not fucking 76 and a billionaire.

You know what I'm saying?

At what point does that end?

Like, what point does it end?

Well, maybe he's not a billionaire.

Maybe some bad investments.

True.

The market has been tanking lately.

Maybe some

poor business decisions.

Yeah.

Gene doesn't seem like that type.

What, that he won't make any mistakes?

Well, he'll make some mistakes, but not like major ones, I don't think.

I think Gene's very, he seems very careful with his money.

At case in point, I give you the elder.

Okay.

Did they pay for that?

Well, that was their decision.

They decided to release it, and it was a complete and utter flop.

Yeah.

I give you another one.

Burn, bitch, burn.

He put that on fucking wax.

Oh, boy.

All right.

So maybe he does make mistakes here and there.

I don't begrudge him touring.

I get it.

Like, that stay alive, man.

Perform.

Like, love life.

Go for for it.

It's a sponging of that $12,000, which after, you know, taxes and after everything, all the other fees that come out,

it's like a few thousand dollars.

A few thousand bucks to do it.

When is Gene like, maybe I don't need to take people's money?

When he can just have a regular old contest and be like, hey, you want to win a chance to be my roadie for the day?

And it's no purchase necessary type thing.

Yeah.

Not for somebody like, who has $12,500 to blow on fucking being Gene's ass boy for the day?

Yeah.

But I guess the counter-argument is like, look, it's not for everybody.

It's for people who have $12,000 who want to spend it on them.

Like,

you know, what are you going to do?

Just go to Lois Commandant.

But I just don't understand why he even has it in him to think about this anymore.

That's what's interesting.

Not saying even that he's wrong.

Like, I just don't get it.

I don't get it.

Okay, so it's not just one person.

It's one assistant experience per venue

from April 3rd to August 3rd with over 20 shows.

So now he's making more than 12,000.

Is he in New Jersey?

I'm going to do it.

You're going to do it?

Yeah.

I'm going to use TSD money to have to do it.

And then I'll record it.

Well, you got to bring Giddam too.

So now it's 28.

I'll have to bring one person.

Can you imagine Giddam fucking trying to limp around, trying to move fucking

marshal fucking hamps and shit?

He's like, get him, dinner is over.

Holy shit, May 5th, 5th at the Basie.

Oh, my God.

Oh, man.

Oh,

you got to do it.

12 grand?

Well, you went, get him?

That's only six each.

Look into it, get him.

See what we have to do to sign up to become Gene's personal roadies.

You may bring four items for Gene to sign.

All right.

I can make money back on that.

Sure can.

You sure can.

You're allowed to take as many pictures as you want.

Hey, Hey, man, it's I've got a t-shirt and a hat, laminant.

Kind of hard on him at first, but I think it's a high price, but like it's up for the person to decide.

Has anybody bought the BC one?

Get him?

Can you look into it?

I'm real.

I'm serious.

We can make content out of it.

We need it.

You know, Teddy's not going to get a bath next week.

Uh-oh.

You know, I mean, we need something.

That's just crazy.

Yeah, that's just the article.

You see about how we can sign up for it.

Get him.

And limited number of experiences.

Hey, man, I guess go for it.

We stopped.

Inquire for and payment plans.

Oh, that's the worst.

If you have to go on a payment plan to be as roadie, you shouldn't have to.

Well, I think most people would might might have to, though.

Yeah.

I'm interested now.

Get him.

I'm serious.

I'm not.

I'm not fooling.

Me and you.

We'll be fucking.

I'll like wipe Gene's brow.

You do all the grunt work, though.

Like his ass.

Gene's like, ah.

Come here, get him.

Did he remember me for Komplukman?

That I doubt.

I doubt.

He's met so many people.

I would not feel slighted if he didn't remember.

He has literally met millions of people, probably since that filming of that.

Since that, yeah.

Since the filming of that episode of Complicman.

So I don't think I could be upset if he didn't remember, though.

All right, let's see what we can do about that, Q.

All right, nice.

It sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, if we could film, we could film, can we film it, Brian?

I don't know.

It doesn't seem to be a good thing.

We could turn it into a Patreon episode.

Yeah, there you go.

You are allowed to take as many photos as you want, it says.

We could do like a flip book.

Throughout your entire experience, you can bring one guest, like you say, four items for him to sign, and you get a Gene Simmons rehearsal-used bass.

Whoa, I get a bass?

You're going to get a bass guitar.

Well, for your new music career.

That's the one of the four things I want him to sign in.

That's weird, though, because he says they won't sign instruments instruments or parts.

Probably the bass he's giving you, though.

He would probably sign.

Because I could flip that, I would think, for at least a G, I would think.

Yeah, now it's down to only $11,000.

You ought to get pictures of

all this shit so everybody knows it's legit.

Does what look good?

The email.

I'm in the middle of a podcast thing.

You're asking me questions about emails we're sending out.

What are we doing?

I can't.

This is a nice.

Oh, oh, oh, I thought it was a.

I thought it was an issue with the Tim pod that somebody needed help with it.

But what do you need?

His.

Perfect.

That is a one-sentence email.

He needed you to double-check that.

It's literally a sentence.

Has anybody booked this yet?

And it needed your approval?

Well, I mentioned his name.

He was, was, I guess, asking, should they drop my name?

As if

it means anything to Gene Simmons or his people.

We've played the Count Basie, though.

I mean, sure, it was even longer than Kish.

Right, but this is a man who wants, he doesn't care who he's getting the 12 Gs from.

He does not care

at all who it is.

He just, all he cares about is the money.

That's all that matters.

You should have just put, I have the money.

Yeah.

Hey, well, go, go for it, Gene.

It's once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Make that bag.

Make it.

Yeah, it's like I stopped.

We stopped doing meet and greets because I was just uncomfortable with them.

I'm like, I can't take people's money to say hello to me.

And then I actually

later on think I fucked up because then people were like,

we loved it.

It was so much fun.

Like, it was fun.

And I don't know.

I understand.

Yeah, I can understand the awkwardness of.

I need to see my psychologist.

Yeah, I got got to make that quick.

Oh, Queen Jel's playlist.

All right.

Well,

is that all you had, bro?

No, no, I got tons of other stuff.

No, I'm not pushing for this.

He called it up on the screen.

I'm going to say Elton John.

He's got a lot of fun.

See if you can get one.

Let's see if we can get one.

Okay, I say Elton John.

Oh, absolutely.

Oh, my God.

He was a favorite of Princess Di, right?

He wrote that Candle in the Wind song for her.

I mean, he might not like them.

Because he had some bad blood between them still.

Yeah, yeah.

Not a a bad match.

I think those, what about those girls?

Those, those girls.

Spice girls?

Yeah, those girls.

I bet you have Spice Girl songs on there.

I don't know.

I could see where you're coming from.

I only like them if they're English.

David Bowie.

There's a Bowie song on there.

There's a Bowie song.

There's an Eno song on there.

There's a Stone song on there.

I'm trying to think of one that's not right.

Like, what would be

like Led Zap?

Is Led Zap too hard for the king?

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah, he looks like a real fucking stick in the mud.

Stodgy.

Oh, yeah.

He's got a stick firmly planted up that fucking anus.

Wow.

A scepter.

He's got a scepter.

Yeah.

Well, it seemed like the queen was that way, too.

Like, and if that's her son, it's like, no fun allowed.

What is it?

It seemed he's very stodgy.

Like, how, what is it like to be that human?

Like,

I never even considered life from his perspective before.

Like, carrying yourself in a certain way all the time.

Knowing no other way.

Who are you going to?

I'm sorry, Diddy.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Who do you got?

Who do you give me your top five that you think is on you?

You want Elton?

I think.

Give that to Bry.

Give that to Bry.

Okay.

The Beatles are going to be on there.

I think that's just a no-brainer, right?

He can't.

I don't want Beatles.

Okay.

No, no, no.

Take Beatles.

Take Beatles.

I don't care.

I'll take him.

I got Rolling Stones.

Okay, you did say that.

I got Rolling Stones.

Does he put Pink Floyd?

No.

No?

No, that's drug music.

Right.

Well, is there all music?

No, but Pink Floyd specifically has known.

He wants to show he's cool.

You know how he's going to show he's cool?

Hendrix.

Hendrix, huh?

Hendrix is going to be.

He's got to have Bob Marley.

He needs

Bob Marley.

Bob Marley.

I like that.

He needs international.

Why do you think that, though?

I think he feels he needs to represent as much as he can.

I mean, there's a picture of him banging on a Tom-Tom with a bunch of African guys or Rastafarian guys.

Jamaican.

Oh, I mean,

he's in Jamaica playing drums.

It's like, there you go.

I should even.

I'm going to say the Spice Girls.

Spice Girls, all right.

That's my second one.

I'm going to say The Who.

I'm going to go out there, man.

Yeah.

I want to think of it.

I'm going to say Michael Jackson.

No.

I called it.

Mine.

Let me throw this at you.

Let me throw a Bruce Springsteen at you.

Not a chance.

Show love for America.

You're gone.

That's a swing in a miscule.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Big swing in a misconception.

No females.

We're not picking any females yet.

I did.

Spice Girls, bro.

Spice girls.

Oh, you're right.

That's right.

Aretha Franklin.

I don't know.

Everybody's Everybody's got Aretha.

What about?

I'm going to say Billy Joel.

Billy Joel.

Yeah.

How many are we picking?

Five.

How many do I have?

One, two, three, four.

You got one more Q.

I have two more.

Bri has two more.

Oh, guys.

Sinatra.

Get Sinatra on there.

Sinatra.

That's your last one.

So BQ has the Rolling Stones, Bob Marley, B.S.

Who's B.S.?

Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and Sinatra.

Great.

I have the Beatles, Spice Girls, Michael Jackson.

I'm going to say Bowie.

That's a good one.

And

I need somebody current, though.

Yeah.

Amy Winehouse.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

That's fine.

That's a current one.

I don't know what she sings.

I just know that name.

Yeah.

She's dead, but still, I know.

So you want to give her respect, though, for a career.

Bra, you got two more, ninety.

Okay, I'm going to say Janice Joplin, maybe.

No way.

That is.

Because he would be

right in that time, though.

That's what I was saying.

Like, he doesn't look like a film.

He never looks like a veal.

He's a veal.

He doesn't want to look stodgy.

It's true.

Who else was big in Woodsburg?

I would think more.

See, I think you got to think more.

Who's current right now?

He wants to be current.

He wants to be relatively.

Yeah, oh boy.

I'll give you Lady Gaga.

Okay, I'll take Lady Gaga then.

She was awesome on Sign Out Live.

You wrote Sign Over this weekend?

No, I didn't.

That's what I watched her.

Did you?

See, the old cue would have been out trying to find Lady Gaga at a party with her.

Yeah, I know.

Q's got to get a flight before I was

launched so bad.

Can you imagine?

If I ever told you, at some point BQ is going to be afraid of a clock.

An hour.

An hour.

It's going to affect his entire life.

I would have put him out of his misery on the spot.

Right?

All right.

So I have the Beatles.

Spice Girls, Michael Jackson, Bowie, Amy Winehouse.

Is that five?

One, two, three.

Yes.

Brian has Elton, The Who, Billy Joel, Janice Joplin, and Lady Gaga, BQ, Rolling Stones, Bob Marley, Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and Sinatra.

All right,

get them.

Give us.

How many songs are on there?

Beyonce.

Queen.

I forgot about Queen, though.

Queen was doing good.

Can I change one of my?

I'm going to take Amy Whitehouse off.

I know he doesn't know.

I'm going to say Queen.

Someone else is just as curtain as Amy Whitehouse.

Queen.

Beyonce.

That's a bad, that's a bad mischief.

Yeah, yeah.

We're not doing good right off the bat.

Daddy Lumba.

Never even heard of him.

He's probably going to go into all this obscure music, like

cultural music.

You know, it was some assistant who picked this.

Yeah.

He said, look, give me a 20-year-old.

But I heard he DJ'd, like, he talked his memories through.

He's saying here that he danced to the music of Ganden singer Daddy Lumba.

It's a 2018,

so it's kind of recent.

Mira McCaba, don't know that one.

You just scroll, get him a little bit.

I don't know, Ross.

That makes sense.

Side down.

There you go.

Boy, you turned

the locomotion.

Woo!

Mockerina's up here, man.

He's corny.

Oh, the BGs, they're British, too.

I forgot about them.

Fucking Kylie Minos,

great body.

That's it.

He probably just fell in love with her.

That way, that.

It's not just a list of the songs, anyway?

That's what he's trying to find.

What do you think about a king doing this?

Like a king DJing?

Proper behavior?

I mean,

it's pretty fucked up to be able to do it.

With the smart

Making a playlist.

Yeah, you think so?

What can he do?

What can he do?

Concentrate on something a little bit more important.

There's one that said

he's brokering peace between Ukraine and Russia, maybe?

You think he can do that?

He's the guy.

Here, Pooh, and here's my point.

Here we go.

Okay.

Bob Marley, boom.

Oh, BQ's got a point on the board.

Daddy Lumba, DeVito.

Who are these people?

Grace Jones.

Michael Booblay.

Uh-oh, Pam.

That's it.

Those are them.

We've only won.

Only one we got.

Wow.

You won, Q.

It doesn't feel like much of a victory, but I'm taking my lumps today, so I'll take it.

What a weird list.

I don't think he made this list.

But obviously, you know what, though?

He's probably a very weird man.

He has to be.

You can't be normal.

living your life in Buckingham Palace.

I'm not mad about it, and I'm not saying if I was him, I wouldn't love it, but

it's just got to be a weird existence, man.

Like,

just human veal.

It's like you can't leave your cage.

Everybody's always looking at you.

Everybody's always

being judged.

Always being judged.

By your own family.

Like, your own mom is like, hey.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah.

I don't know if I've ever heard his voice.

I wonder what his voice is.

It's got to be super posh, right?

I think he's fancy.

It has to be.

He's got to speak the most correct King's English of all time.

Fascinating guy.

All right.

Well, we've got to.

I thought they made such a big deal about him with

Camilla Parker Bulls, the woman he's still with, right?

If I'm not mistaken, yeah, the tampon.

He's like, yeah,

I want you to use me as your tampon.

I've never heard that one before.

I've never heard it said ever since.

That is a new one on me.

He should be proud because he was the only person probably that's ever coined that.

And, you know, probably.

It took a little little heat.

It took a little heat, but it's still like, it's still a dog move.

That's something that a dog would say.

You're right.

Yeah.

The respect.

I had friends that were like,

that would talk about going down on their girls when they had their period and stuff.

The Red Wings.

Yeah, Red Wings.

And I'd be like, are you fucking nuts?

I don't care, man.

I love pussy that much.

How much I love it, man.

I have and have, unfortunately, still friends like that.

So I guess it's really the the same kind of thing, but um, yeah, and he ain't so posh now, is he?

He's still posh, you know, those, those, those old Brits back in the day were always pervy, wasn't that always their thing?

Yeah, you got that one Prince Andrew guy now running around.

No, I think he's I think he's criminally like, I don't think that's pervy, he's got to stay in England, yeah,

yeah.

But like, half of England was brothels back in the day.

Whatever happened with Jack the Ripper, was did they ever whatever, like it is him, did that story evolve in a way that was

definitive to Ginn, was that definitive?

Or no, Ginnam saying no, that we kind of were fed a curveball and that the person who claimed it had ulterior motives.

It's like Zodiac.

Once every couple years, it's like, my dad was the Zodiac, or my neighbor was the Zodiac.

And then it turns out, like, maybe, but who knows?

I think they caught Zodiac, though, didn't they?

Or is he still on Salt?

I thought he was still on Zodiac.

I thought they broke his codes, right?

Genial DNA

was actually

used.

Or is that the Golden State guy?

That was a Golden State guy who got the familial DNA.

Yeah.

Let's see.

Says not.

As of today, the Zodiac Killer has not been definitely used.

Has not been.

Yeah.

Wow.

Every once in a while they say it, though.

I wonder if can people get away with that stuff anymore?

What?

Serial killing?

Well, on that level.

I think it's much harder now.

Yeah, right.

I think, yeah, with all the advances in technology, cameras being everywhere.

Cameras alone, yeah.

It's got to be.

It's hard out there for a serial killer.

It's got to be more difficult to go unnoticed.

Yeah.

Unless you're one of these guys, you're one of these serial killers that's all like on the movie.

Like truckers

have a perfect occupation for serial killing.

You know, it's like you're in Florida one day and then you're in Illinois the next.

So by the time they find the body, if you've secreted it well,

usually the bodies, though, are

prostitutes, though.

Usually, yeah.

So that makes your

victims.

No, I think it makes it because all the girls know each other and they kind of look out for each other.

Yeah, that did happen with this guy who was a cop.

I think it was in Nevada.

It was a guy

who was killing girls.

And they were like, yeah, it's this guy, these creepy guys in a truck and blah, blah, blah.

And one of his coworkers was like, well, my buddy has a truck like that.

And they had to arrest him, you know?

Like,

they had to look into it.

And then it turned out like, yeah, it was him.

Cop killing girls, killing hookers and stuff.

That's horrible, man.

Yeah.

Like, that's the type of thing that you're like, my friend did what?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And as a hooker, it's like, come on.

Like, I don't got it bad enough.

I know.

I mean, I wonder if hookers are like, I fucking knew this was going to happen at some point.

Or, yeah.

You got to be ready for it.

Somebody got rough with you at least.

Yeah, I know.

It sounds like an unfun life.

Yeah.

You know, that's not what H.E.O.

showed us in the bunny rants.

They made it look fun.

Did you see Daredevil?

I did.

What did you think?

I liked it.

I didn't like the second episode.

First episode was pretty good.

Second episode was good.

It went hard that first episode.

Yeah, and then they went real kind of smooth.

I don't really remember the second episode, so there you go.

It was the White Tiger.

Oh, it did have that funny line, though, when he was like, he didn't have his mystical amulet on him.

That made me laugh out loud.

I was like, oh, that is fucking funny.

Now, I don't know whether it was intentional or not, but I was like, Are you familiar with the White Tiger?

Because this is a character that I grew up with.

I was familiar with him.

I wouldn't say I have an affinity for him, but I know who he is.

He did have a mystical amulet.

He was.

No, no, I know.

That's what I'm saying.

I just think it was funny that he was.

I was surprised that they cast an actor who was so old to play the role of the white tiger because in the comics, he was a teenager.

It was the sons of the tiger were three

or four

martial artists who broke up and they they each had a mystical amulet, a tiger's head, and then I think three paws or four paws.

And they threw them all out.

They broke up.

They just threw them in the alley, in an alley, in a garbage can in an alley.

And then this Hector was the guy, that was the kid's name, and he grabbed the amulets and put them all on and became the white tiger.

Oh, wow, all right.

But he was a young kid, basically.

He was like 16, 17 years old.

So I was surprised that they made the white tiger so

a middle-aged man.

And I heard this actor passed away.

My wife told me that

he was a soap opera star.

And she said, oh, he passed away, that guy.

So I don't know if he's got to finish his role or not.

It doesn't seem like it's going to be a super big role anyway.

So I think it's the seasons.

I think it's part of the arc is like him defending the White Tiger and trying to get him off the bogus charges.

Right.

Yeah, I guess so.

Like I said, I don't remember that second episode all that much.

That sells a lot, right?

If you can't remember, it was less than a week ago.

Yeah.

Or exactly a week ago that it came out.

It might have had the volcano going, so you don't know.

You don't want to put it just on

episode two.

But it was.

Were you shocked in the first 15 minutes what happened?

I mean, I think I've read that storyline before.

Didn't that happen in the comics?

I have never seen.

By the time I checked out Occurrence Comics, I had not seen that happen.

It happens in the comics, and he comes back, and

there's a whole whole thing of like, sorry,

there's a whole thing of like, um,

of Foggy being in that state and on the run a little bit or something like that.

I wonder if but he definitely died here.

Did you, yeah, can we talk about it or

week?

I don't know.

I don't know where to end.

But did you like when Bullseye

lived through such a fall?

Hold on a second.

You have to cut this out, Brian.

Sorry, yep.

I'm literally saying, stop texting me.

No, I never thought of that, buddy.

All right.

There we go.

Okay.

All right.

Sorry about that, Kev.

I didn't mean to snap at you like that.

Apologize, buddy.

Oh, you snapped at him?

What did you say?

That's not a snap.

You haven't seen a snap.

I missed it.

I was going to be like,

it's going off, and he's like, Why don't you put it on?

Do not disturb.

And I'm like, Yeah, I never thought of that.

Oh, yeah.

That's not been

what I call tiptoeing around getting

those are what's called kid gloves.

But did you like that

bullseye could survive a fall from the top of a building?

I like it better than killing Bullseye.

You know?

Right.

So it's one of those comic book things that I'm just going to deal with.

It's very comic booky that he would be able to survive that.

But boy, when you spend so much time trying to ground everything in reality, that's a tough one to swallow.

Four-story fall, like face down.

Yeah.

Bullseye is a regular guy.

He's a little bit more.

Well, in the comic, he is just a regular guy, but then he gets an Adamantium skeleton.

Yeah.

Which they haven't mentioned.

Have they done that yet in the series?

I mean, it's been so long.

Maybe this is how he gets it.

Yeah, but he was alive only a year later in court, remember?

No.

Yeah.

A year later, they pick up Bullseye's in court, and that's when Karen comes back to see him.

They say it's a full year later.

I don't remember that.

Dude, you've got to get rid of that volcano.

It's fucking having

horrible ramifications.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

Oh, I thought you were talking about a comic book storyline.

This was not in the show.

Yes, when Karen came back and stuff like that.

So it had only been a year later, and he looked fine for

adamantium infusion.

If that's what happened to him.

It's a comic book, man.

Yeah.

I still love Colin Farrell's bullseye.

I barely remember it.

I remember it so well.

I loved it.

I know at the time people hated it and they thought it was corny, but I was like, I loved it.

He had a bullseye on his forehead and he kept pointing to it.

Bullseye, bullseye.

And you're like, we got it, it, dude.

Yeah, I don't know.

I like that one.

I think I remember liking the Ben Affleck Daredevil.

I don't remember hating it like everybody did.

The soundtrack was corny as fuck, but like, I don't know.

I kind of thought he made a good Daredevil.

I didn't think it was terrible.

I didn't think it was all that good, but it wasn't, it was serviceable.

Yeah.

There were things that I definitely would have changed.

There was things I did like, and there was things I didn't like, but

I think that,

you Charlie Cox has made it.

Oh, yeah.

He owns it now, and it's his.

Yeah.

Now, how many times did you see the Ben Fleck Daredevil?

Two times.

Two times?

I don't know how you remember shit from movies like that.

It's hard to believe.

It's from a time when the superhero movies weren't coming out like they are now.

So get to what you can get.

There he is.

Bullseye.

Bull's eye.

He killed that woman on the plane by popping a peanut in her throat just because she was coughing.

It's hard to believe that's the penguin, right?

Yeah, right?

Yeah, you're right.

Fuck, he's got a whole complex history now.

You didn't see the penguin, right?

I did.

Oh, did you?

Yeah.

Did you recommend?

I liked it.

Yeah, I took it.

I've heard that it's like kind of like a mob thing.

Like if you take the penguin, remove the penguin, and put like a regular guy.

Yeah.

Him being the penguin almost has nothing to do with anything.

Like, yeah, yeah,

it was good.

I thought it was really well done.

Started watching The Last of Us on Chuck's recommendation.

Wow, you didn't like it?

Me and Chuck disagree a little bit about this.

Disagree on this, huh?

Yeah, we disagree a little bit.

I liked the game.

The series, I didn't fall in love like everybody else did.

What episode are you on?

I'm on the second one.

Okay.

Talk to me after the third one.

They did this thing where it's like they broke away from the story.

Did you watch

Righteous Gemstones?

Yes.

The first season?

Yeah, the new season, though.

Fuck, dude, the first episode is so fucking good.

And it does write

what the third episode of Last of Us does not do right, which is like break away from the main story, tell a separate storyline.

But fucking, dude, everybody, dude, I don't know.

It was well acted.

It was fine.

It was well written.

But I was like, why the third episode of a series?

You're breaking away from a main character for a love story?

You're like, what the fuck is this?

Oh, it's a love story?

Dude, you're like, what is this, man?

Like,

where are the zombies?

But that was just my frustration with it.

Am I the only one who thinks Pedro Pascal should give other people a chance?

He's going to be Mr.

Fantastic.

Yeah, I know.

I just saw that.

I was watching a bunch of trailers and I saw that he's in that too.

And it's like, he's in everything.

He's in all the Star Wars stuff, right?

He's the Mandalorian, right?

He is the Mandalorian.

I think when you have an opportunity,

you take it and you turn nothing down because eventually Hollywood stops calling.

Yeah, I liked it with Narcos a lot.

He was really good in that.

I didn't see Narcos.

Oh, it's great.

You know, ask all the actors who are hot at one point.

You know, at some point, they'll stop calling you.

And it's, well, what have you done for me now?

Now, what have you done for me in the past?

And they'll forget him.

So you take get.

If you're good enough, though, like, you know, people will, like, if you're a Bill Murray type,

people will, like, die to

come out, and he's an icon.

He's a legend, you know what I mean?

Yeah, that's kind of different.

But I like Pedro.

Yeah, I like Pedro, though.

I like him, too.

He's in a lot.

Yeah, he's in a lot.

When he got cast in Mr.

Fantastic,

I do like the guy.

I wouldn't have picked him for that, but I like him, so we'll wait and see.

Yep.

I like that attitude.

Wait and see.

We'll wait and see on on that one.

Yeah, Lord of an American.

Wait and see.

Wait and see.

I felt like the people who made The Last of Us.

And I knew it.

The people who made The Last of Us, I feel didn't want to make a zombie show.

No.

Yeah.

Like, I think they were like, it's one of those genre shows where they're embarrassed that they're making zombies still.

Yeah, and you're like, guys, so don't make zombie shows

if you want to do two full episodes are turned over to romances.

Oh, really?

Two full fucking episodes.

And you're just.

But we're not short episodes either.

No, and it's just like, guys, what are we doing?

Every second I watch these two fall in love, you could have had zombies eating people.

Like, and don't you understand the show I'm trying to watch here?

Yeah, you're right.

It does seem like they're trying to veer away from, like, they're not zombies, they're like fungus guys, which is cool.

That's fine.

Like, that's an all right take because in the game, it's so well done.

And the zombie, the clickers, did you get to the clickers yet?

Yeah, those are so creepy in the game.

Like, they got a lot right in the show, and I like the casting, but you don't like the romance, though, huh?

You can't find romance in

a world where funkus zombies are running around.

I think it shouldn't be the third episode of a series where the two main characters just got together at the end of the second episode.

And then the third episode, instead of watching them do their thing, you're in a fucking romance and you never see a zombie.

I used to think like you.

I used to be in the same way what I wanted, what I thought I wanted, but the office turned me around and I was like, I like romance.

I like romance.

Jim and Pam really turned me a new

side to me that I was just like, I want more romance in everything I watched.

Yeah.

Bullshit.

I hear you, and I see the sincerity in your face.

I love that romance.

That's fine, though.

But

look at the method that they're delivering it to.

It's a sitcom.

It's about people, you know what I mean, who are working together.

It's not about a fucking zombie acockolis, which, again, again, like who I'm not saying that nobody could ever make a great romance set in it, but if that should have been the fucking seventh episode, not the third.

I don't know.

Look, do whatever you fucking want, people.

Obviously, they have a hitchhiker on the hands.

They don't need advice from me.

Well, something like The Office 2, you have,

and I think it was done, even though I don't like Jim and Pam, I do think it was done well.

You have eight seasons to let it unfold.

Yeah, whereas, like you say, I'm already on episode three, they're trying to force the romance, and it impacts the story not even a moment.

If you don't watch that episode, nothing changes.

It's fucking wild, it's fucking nuts.

Oh, that sucks.

Well, I think Chuck's a romantic guy.

That's why he likes to see it.

He and Chuck talked about this.

He does have a different perspective on it than me.

Which is fine.

Which is, hey, man, you know what?

Not everything's for me.

No.

And it never will be.

No.

Nope.

Who cares if fucking two out of eight hours on a zombie experience, a fucking love stories that nobody gives a shit about?

But sure, sure.

Sounds great.

Let's keep doing it.

Season two, let's watch it.

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Did you see that?

I was, well, you're an artist.

I'm

curious about what you think about this.

There was an artist in where, I think it was Germany.

Denmark.

Three little pigs were rescued from the big bed wolf.

Three piglets that were left to starve to death as part of a shocking art exhibit in Denmark have been stolen and saved from their horrific fate thanks to a 10-year-old girl begging her father to come to their rescue.

He used real pigs in the art display?

Yep.

You want to see them?

There they are.

Three little piggies.

Yeah, that's grotesque.

Yeah.

Yeah, so the.

I heard about this.

I thought the artist had a clever point.

Obviously, I don't agree with that.

But he's like, he was like, 10,000 pigs die a day in horrible conditions.

And you care about these three?

That was his point.

And why you care is the name of the exhibit.

I don't agree.

Like, obviously, I think it's repulsive to do this, and it's horrible.

But I think the point he was trying to make is like, oh, wow.

Like, that's pretty.

He's kind of right if you think about it.

Are they dying for

food?

Yeah, for food reasons.

That's always the tricky thing.

But I think it's the way that they're dying is horrific.

And this guy's point.

Now, do you eat pork?

I really don't.

Not out of everybody.

You're not talking to me at all that bacon and fucking really bad.

Yeah, that was the last time.

That was the fucking last time.

Yeah.

But I mean, I'd love to dropkick this guy off a fucking building for trying to do that to the pigs, but I do understand the point he's trying to make.

Do you think, because I was thinking about this, it says, to make his point, the native Chilean

Chilean construct a cage of hay and shopping carts, trapping a tree of adorable piglets inside with the express purpose of allowing them to starve to death, but the tiny pigs have been given a second chance at life after the conscience of a friend of the artist prevailed over the unsavory demonstration.

So I was thinking about it.

Do you think that he knew the whole time that nobody's going to let these pigs starve to death?

I'm just trying to raise awareness about factory.

I never thought about that before.

And if that is true, then this guy really is fucking playing chess while I'm playing checkers.

Right.

Why not, right?

He gets the point of course without hurting the pigs.

It's probably what he happened to do.

Yeah, all right.

Suddenly, I'm on board with this guy's method.

Said he was surprised to find out that his friend was part of the jailbreak, but he was able to find a silver lining.

He had to shut down the whole exhibition, and he was very disappointed when Casper told me that he was involved in the theft.

But then I thought about it for a few hours and realized at least this way the piglets would have a happy life.

Yeah.

Artists are weird people, man.

They do weird shit for art.

You know, like, I remember

this guy in Eric's, when eric was in college my brother eric he took a picture of his girlfriend like taking a shit on the toilet without her permission and then like put like went to his art class and put it up on this huge screen in front of everybody and she was in the art class just an asshole it's like an asshole move

that's beyond that's that's criminal act yeah oh yeah uh yeah what was her reaction uh she was unhappy she was very unhappy i don't think she broke up with the guy if i remember correctly but she was she was another weirdo like hippie type so I guess she wasn't as upset as your average person might be.

The

invasion of privacy alone is just like, how can you ever

talk to that person again and not be without having being angry?

Remember when you did that shit?

Yeah.

Just being so mad.

Like, you hit a camera in a room where I was taking a shit?

What is the matter with you?

What is wrong with you?

Oh, yeah.

It says here, this is a lot.

About 25,000 piglets die each day on Danish farms from starvation because sows are bred to have litters of about 20 piglets while only being equipped with 14 teats.

How many die a day?

25,000.

25,000?

That would be.

So in two weeks, it's like

a quarter of a million?

Wait, 25,000 a day?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, yeah.

That's not possible.

That's a scale of misery that's unbelievable that that's going on on the planet that we live on.

25,000 a day.

That's what it says.

About 25,000 piglets die each day on Danish farms from starvation because sows are bred to have litters of 20 piglets.

Not even for food purposes.

They're just costing.

They grow more than they need and they let the ones they don't need starve.

That is

probably the weaker ones, right?

Crazy.

And Denmark produces roughly 20 million pigs annually from 5,000 pig farms.

Oh, these poor pigs.

About 90% of those pigs are exported, accounting for more than 5% of total exports, making the industry vital for the Danish economy.

So if they don't have those pigs, they're in trouble.

Isn't that a good way to do this?

In 40 days,

a million piglets died in.

A million piglets in 40 days?

Oh, man.

That's just in one country?

That's just in Denmark, yeah.

Oh, man.

It makes you feel guilty, doesn't it?

It makes you feel horrible.

I feel horrible right now.

Yeah.

Tell them, Steve, Dave.

I looked down at the timer just to see if we were in a good place.

All right, so 25,000 times 365.

What is that number?

Is that 9 million?

Yes, 9 million a year.

That's where do they do it?

What?

Yeah, like where do they get the.

What do they do with them?

I guess they just

feed them back to the pigs, man.

Probably feed them back to the pigs, you're right.

And that's how they get those brain diseases and shit.

Oh, man.

Mad pig disease.

Fucking bummer, man.

Where's my volcano?

This is why I need that fucking thing at my side.

I can't think about this.

Oh, man.

One of my outdoor cats showed up this morning with fur missing on the side of his face.

I guess he got into a fight or something.

And I was like, so like, oh, what do I do?

What do I, like, I was so, like, upset and worried about it.

Like, I thought that was bad.

Right.

Now I feel so horrible.

Millions of piglets.

Oh, a little piggy piglet.

I didn't know.

It's so cute.

They're smart, too.

Yeah.

People keep pigs as pets, and I know how smart they can be.

Well, aren't they like the third smartest animal on the planet or something like that?

Yeah,

who's the smartest animal on the planet?

I think dolphins, right?

I thought it was orangutans.

All right.

This is going to be fun.

They say pigs are intelligent.

I don't think they're smart.

And clean.

I don't think they're as smart as a dolphin.

I heard dolphins are like next level.

Chimps, dolphins, orangutans, elephants, ravens, crows, orcas, pigs, octopuses, rats, and African gray parrots are known for their advanced problem-solving skills, communication abilities, and complex social

schematics.

Pigs, high learning ability, capable of complex tasks, and good spatial awareness.

Oh, man.

Well, all right.

Let's keep killing them, I guess.

Let's keep starring them to death.

It sounds good.

Oh.

I mean, well,

so what, and when you add on the ones that have to die

to get on the grocery shelves, how many die a day then?

You're not even counting the ones that die just to go on your grocery shelf.

I don't know, man.

The ones that go to the restaurants.

It's just like, yeah, how many are actually dying a day then?

Yeah, that is

horrific.

Yeah.

This is going on around us.

It's horrible.

Yeah, well, I try not to eat pork, really, anymore.

Yeah,

I haven't eaten pork in decades, but I eat other things, though, that are probably just as bad, though.

Beef.

Chicken.

Chicken, I try at least to do like

they have like the free-range chickens and stuff like that that you got to pay a little more for to get it.

But I'll try and do that.

But, you know,

none of it feels like you're doing enough.

No.

Because it's

one person, yeah.

It seems it's pretty much nothing.

Except for your own personal

beliefs, morals, whatever.

Makes me want to get a pet pig.

Yeah, they grow big, though.

Remember the.

My brother-in-law had a pet pig.

Yeah.

Yeah, he loved it.

Loved it.

And lived a long time, too.

Well, I could do it.

Very smart.

Yeah, I think you would.

I mean, are you zoned for a pig out there?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm sure you could grease a couple palms on it.

That's going to bother me.

I hope not seeing some of the girls he's brought home, home, man.

Oh, my God.

Do you need a special permit for pigs?

I know you do for chickens.

I think livestock you need.

Yeah, but they fall under a different category, though, than a cat or a dog, though.

Yeah.

Doug Stanhope bought me a goat once, do you remember?

Doug

bought me a goat named the Quinn.

And then

we're in the process of shipping it to New York when I was like, no, I got got caught wind of it, and I was like, Guys, you cannot send me a goat.

I have nowhere to put those,

those things are cool, though.

Like, those little baby goats, man, they're always butting you and shit.

Oh, I love watching the videos, and I'm running up and butting people.

What about if you get one of those little

pigs that don't really grow that big?

I don't know what they're called now.

I think that turned out to be a scam.

I think they all get big.

Oh, they really are.

Yeah, it was like they were like fuck you, rich people.

Yeah,

Teacup, y'all.

Take it a teacup.

Yeah.

I would love it.

We'd love all I felt.

It's your birthday.

Why don't you give yourself

a pig?

What do you think the cats would do?

Boris would have a new best friend.

Yeah.

Yeah, Brooklyn would be afraid and Chassis wouldn't give a shit.

I think they'd be all right with it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think they would.

Yeah, I don't know.

But,

yeah, what's going on?

So that's it.

What are we doing?

Where are we?

What are you guys up to?

I haven't seen you in two weeks.

Two weeks.

Yeah, it's true.

I haven't seen you in two weeks.

What have you been doing, Walt?

What have I been doing?

Yeah, like when you when you stay home, what do you do?

When I stay home, what do I do?

Yeah.

Jeez, what do I do?

I wonder about you sometimes.

What do I do?

I'm trying to think right now.

I don't know if I do anything.

I

yeah, I mean, I try to I try to coordinate things for the Patreon.

That's a bitch.

Trying to constantly get people's a free dates that they're available.

Unless it's me.

Yes, you're easy.

Yeah, you're pretty easy.

You know, watch TV, go out with the dogs, go out to eat.

There's really nothing, I mean, what else is there to do?

There's nothing to do, right?

Yeah.

And now that it's nice out, I wish we could give you a little quarter to talk about the weather, Cam, since it's so nice.

Yeah, you had to.

Turned all around, right?

It was warm weather.

My mood is, yeah, well, I'm back to shooting, so I'm with all my friends.

It's like i'm back in high school again uh and then like you get out of work it's like 5 30 the sun's still up it's 60 something degrees i'm skipping around manhattan i'm feeling pretty good you know good yeah feel all right

birthdays are coming birthdays are coming how do you feel about it like like just like

right like right on the precipice of 50 yeah

feel old it it I feel older.

I feel older.

I don't know.

I imagine you guys felt the same way where it's just like, oh, I don't feel like a kid anymore.

But it doesn't bother me.

The number doesn't bother me at all.

I am finding

some comfort.

I never would have thought

I would say this sentence, but like the idea that I'm going to die one day and

relatively soon, you know what I mean?

Like, has taken a lot of fear and pressure off me in a way that I'm like,

well, fucking really, all I got to do is worry about the next 20 years and then then I'll probably be dead.

You know what I mean?

It's like,

I'm not even talking about the world.

I'm talking like

my career.

Like, if you told me Joker's end, I never did another fucking thing again,

at 50-something, whenever the show ends, I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

Who cares?

Where if I was in like my 30s, I'd be like, no, I got 40 years to, like, I got to look after myself and shit like that.

Like, now it's like that's removed.

Like, the idea that I got to prove myself is removed.

The idea that my like

battling days are behind me, you know what I mean?

What does that mean?

No more battles.

Interested.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Like, you know, when you're a young man, you want to make a name for yourself.

You want to go out and you've got to

stake your claim in this world.

But it's interesting you called it battling, though.

Yeah, you find that interesting?

Yeah, it's interesting that making a name for yourself, you would refer to it as battling.

I think it's a tough world out there, man.

There was no easy road to joke.

Not even jokers, anything.

Even the fire department, like anything.

Yeah, that's true.

Like anything.

It's a tough world.

It's hard to make money these days, especially.

You know what I mean?

And it's like, you know, when you're young and you don't have

your future laid out yet, I think that's pretty scary.

Or I remember it being scary.

And then throughout my middle age, there was that notion of like, wow, we got this thing.

And

how long can we keep it going?

And then it just keeps going.

I'm just obviously talking about me.

And then, and then, you know, I hit the age and I'm like, and then it's just like,

it's this weird thing of like knowing that my death is coming.

It's not around the corner, but it's like, you know, it's not four blocks away either.

You know?

And that's like kind of shaping what I want to do with my time and how I see

what I want to do with myself from day to day.

It's, it's interesting.

It's like Fight Club.

I can't remember the exact quote, but it's like, you must realize that one day you're going to die until you realize that you're useless.

Yeah, and it's a good line.

And it's like, my answer comes back, it's clearly every time I want to spend time with my friends and family, I want to have fun.

Yeah.

You know, like that's literally all it becomes.

And I know guys, especially in my business, who are like, no, I want to be famous.

No, I want to be rich.

No, I want to do that.

You know what I mean?

Like, I want to be,

I want to sell out the garden.

You know what I mean?

Like, shit like that.

And you're like,

well, speaking to someone that sold out the garden, like, it fucking the next day, it don't matter.

You know what I mean?

Like.

Somebody else sold out the garden the next day.

Yeah, exactly.

It's a, it's funny, and

I'm just liking that my priorities are landing on the side of I just want to spend time doing fun stuff with people I love.

I think that's

good.

Yeah, I think that's a good place to be a healthy

way to approach it.

Yeah, and that's what the key wrestling was all about.

Like, that's 100% that.

When is that?

What are the dates for that again?

That's April.

It's sold out.

Sold out.

It's April 4th.

Fourth through the 7th, I think.

4th, 5th and 6th.

4th 5th and 6th, yeah.

4th, 5th, and 6th.

Yeah.

I don't know.

People are very excited for that.

I see a lot on

Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it.

Yeah, I've been working.

I got some more people signing on that we're not even announcing.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, because it's like, you know, we already sold the tickets, so we'll just surprise people.

I just saw Joe and Bergio will be down there.

Joe Mbergio will be down there.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm excited about that.

Yeah, I don't know.

So anyway, that's how I don't know if that answers your question of how I feel about approaching 50, but

there's a philosophical bend to it all for me, I think.

No, I mean, everybody approaches it differently.

Some people have, you know,

panic

and they

do things that are,

what's it called, the midlife crisis kind of move.

Just jerk offs that go out and get like a young bride, sports car.

I mean, I get that too.

I mean, I get it.

It's not like that's a bad time move.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Like, what did you guys, was there any difference?

Is anything I'm saying ringing in with you guys who are already on the other side of it?

Or is it?

You know, your career, though, has been so super successful, though, that it's, you know, you're, you've hit all the

crescendos, all the, all the things you wanted to hit.

Like all these benchmarks.

Yeah, you've done it all.

You've gotten all of it, so you have a more of a

you, you, you can look with it with pride and

you did this.

You did this.

I did this.

But I think I would have felt this way even with the fire department because I respect that so much that it felt like

an equal accomplishment to anything else, really.

Yeah, I don't know personally, though, if I have those kind of like professional achievements, though.

So

I still feel like I need.

I mean, you had a TV show for seven seasons.

Yeah, but you're.

You're a professional artist.

You've done comic books, you're a professional artist, and we do the same podcast together for 15 years.

Like, you didn't mention the podcast once.

It's not that different.

You didn't mention the podcast.

I was getting to it.

Yeah, professionally, though, I think that

you're in a different zone.

You've accomplished so much that you could look back and be like, yeah, I don't need, like, it's like the Derek Jeter.

What more can I got?

What more do I got to do?

Sure, yeah.

I don't accept that comparison.

I know what you mean.

He got the rings.

He got the MVPs.

You know, he can retire now with a sense of accomplishment.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know if I can, professionally, if I can have that feeling.

So I feel that there's a little always that something I want.

Like I want to write and draw my own comic book.

Yeah.

It's something I've always wanted to do.

So I think I better get fucking working on it.

That's good, though.

Yeah.

I want to do it from, like from, what's it called, from cover to back cover.

That's amazing, dude.

I want to do that.

But

I know it'll be only,

but it won't be.

I don't know, you know, just because of the world of comic books, and I have put out comic books.

They've not set the world on fire.

I don't think it'll be the thing that'll be able to be like, okay, I did it.

I achieved this with this.

Well, what are you doing if, well, achieve what?

Because it sounded to me like you're...

You're that success.

Yeah, but the success is that's the outcome.

That's that to me, like I wouldn't worry about critical and

sales.

I think you just got to do stuff that's like,

I think you got stuff that's rewarding no matter what the fucking you had me in the beginning where you're like, I want to write from beginning to end the comic and do the art myself.

That's the goal.

That's what you can do.

Yes, but you've also mentioned in your eloquent,

I sold out Massive Square Garden.

If I put out.

But how meaningless it was.

But you know it's not, though.

No, no, I'm telling you it is.

No, no, no, I'm not telling you.

I've heard him say it privately.

I'm not being humble.

It's a cool fact

that has zero impact.

You know what I mean?

Like,

it doesn't.

I'm sure there are a lot of people.

Would you want it?

Would you, what if it didn't sell out?

I don't think it would have.

I think I would feel, I don't know.

I think it would feel the same.

So if I do write and draw my own comic book and it goes out in like a hundred copies sell worldwide, you can't equate it as a success though.

So that's the thing that I think you can commercially, maybe

I think it's about what you got out of the process.

Like I want to write a novel.

It's like do you?

Yeah, I started.

I started like working on one and beating it out and stuff.

And I'm like, in no universe am I ever think it's going to be a bestseller, but like it's the process.

It's like I fucking wrote a novel.

I put this, you know, I put this out there in the world.

I don't know.

I hear what you're saying.

I think it'll, like, if I do it, I think I can do it.

I think I've shown that I can finish projects and get them done, but I think I'll always be chasing that,

that coveted final, like

like that, like it's a success.

Waltz number one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, then you've got to start working on the fourth one now.

So you get that book done and out, and by the time that's done, you're already working on the second one because it's not going to be the,

it's going to be the, you know what I mean?

Like this is going to lead to this.

You can't just put one out there and be like, here it is, everybody.

I know, yeah.

You know?

You know, yes, yeah.

So, but you have it in you, and it's like, again, that's if you're loving doing it, it doesn't, yeah, I enjoy doing it.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

I have ideas.

I just fucking read what you wrote and drew.

I have ideas that I want to do, but

it's just a matter of sitting down and like finishing it, though.

Yeah.

And at the end of the day, you're like, what?

You get that doubt in your mind, like, oh, what's the point?

The state of the comic book world is so fucked up.

It's on the Johnson family crest.

What's the point?

The state of the comic book world is in such flux right now.

There was a listener who

got War of the Undead, and he liked it and gave me some compliments on it.

And he said in the, like, he sent me an email saying, don't ever give up on your dream of doing a character I wanted to do for Marvel Comics.

And

it was nice of him to say that, but I don't even know if that is something.

Like, I think comics have changed so much that the

even if I got to work on a Marvel comic book character, I don't know if it would be as the cachet would be the same for me.

Even internally to yourself.

Internally to myself, because it has, it's not the same.

It's a different industry.

Yeah.

Well, like 25 years ago, it would have meant.

It would have been like, yeah, it would have been a Mount Everest type of achievement.

Comics was its own thing.

It wasn't a means to an end for fucking movies to be strip lined.

And I don't mean

it's just my personal

opinion on things.

It just feels like it's such a different

beast now that I don't know if it would have the same level of accomplishment.

It would still be an accomplishment, but I don't know.

I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

No, it's good.

You're finding it, man.

You're feeling your way through it.

I think it's good.

I mean, it's something I've always wanted to do, and I certainly don't.

The only thing that gives me a little bit of confidence is all the things that have come out in terms of like, but they're not real writing, though.

It's like podcasts, like writing things and trying to get them

done in like a in a podcast setting.

Yeah.

That's not really writing, but it is still coming up ideas, though.

It's writing.

Of course it is.

Well, you know what I mean, like characterization and shit.

It's a far different animal than

you know, Sunday Jeff needs to hit this ping pong ball with his sneaker or else he has to.

I hear you, man.

I know what you're saying.

I know what you're saying, but I would not put down that creativity, man.

Like, we don't have the audience that we have because

people don't find that entertaining.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a little bit of that confidence of, like, I think I could do this because I've done this, this, and this.

But then even if I get it done, though, I don't know if

there's a world that even cares.

Like, the world won't care.

Is that what stops you?

The fear of people being like, ho, hum.

It doesn't, no, no.

It doesn't stop me, but it does make it,

I don't know, like, it has changed so much the industry that I don't think it's possible for me at this point in my life to put out something that's impactful to

the current people who are interested in comics.

And I think that that may be a cop-out on my part, though.

That may be me.

It might be a cop-out.

It might be true.

I still think it doesn't matter either way.

You're right.

Yeah, you're right.

But I think with, you know, with the thing with Tim and his,

you know, with his diagnosis, it really put me be like, if I don't do it now,

I better get, I mean, I might not get to it then.

You might not be able to get to it.

Yeah, so it really makes you prioritize and

think about,

you know, am I wasting time here watching kung fu

for four straight hours or should I be doing something better with my time, something like an achieve something?

Don't ever fucking say that about TV again.

It can still be on in the background.

It can still be on in the background.

We need need it.

Yeah, you need that noise.

But yeah,

that's what I want to do, though.

I'm going to work towards it.

I'm going to try to write and draw.

The only thing I won't do is color it.

I'm not a good colorist.

I think I need somebody who knows what the fuck they're doing.

Otherwise, I want it to be just

like the guys that I love, how they did it.

Like John Byrne became, you know, he did all.

Frank Miller did it all.

Yeah.

You got to do it, man.

And I want to try and test and see if I can do it all.

You can.

I think you got to.

I think you got to.

Got to try.

You got to try.

I think this is great, man.

I'd love to hear this from you.

So, what are you writing your novel about?

Or can you give away?

Is that just a subject matter?

But like the genre.

Is it fiction?

It's science fiction.

Science fiction.

Space comedy.

It's not Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy because I never write anything that brilliant, but it's like in that area.

Who wrote that?

Douglas Adams.

Have they ever made that into a movie?

Yeah,

it was a a TV show.

It was a radio thing.

They made a movie out of it.

The movie was, you know.

Because that is such a beloved

novel.

It's amazing.

Those books are amazing, yeah.

Do you have something that, like, did did

the recent

things, things that have happened recently in TSE Town has motivated you to

do something?

It's made me think a lot more.

Yes.

Yeah, it absolutely has.

Because

it's only when it's like, for me anyway, it's only when it's in my face face that I'm like, oh, this is, there's no fucking reason in the world why it would happen to Tim, but not to me.

You know, like, you go through life thinking that way.

Like, that's the kind of shit that happens to somebody else until it happens to you.

And you find out real quick that, like, real fast.

Yeah, no, this is just, yeah.

Especially, like, I mean, not that I'm at like such an advanced age, but 57 isn't young.

So, yeah, I feel like it's

I should be working on something.

Yeah.

More and more, I feel that way.

No matter what the motivation is, like Q says, though,

regardless of what it is, if you can find the motivation in some capacity, whether it be

however you find it, I guess it's a good thing, though.

Tell them Steve Dave?

It's a thoughtful one.

Tell them Steve Dave.

It's not a downer.

It shouldn't be.

I don't think it's a downer.

I think it's more thoughtful.

Like, we're in our heads.

We're not down.

we're, yeah, but maybe, yeah, it's not a downer.

I don't think it's a downer.

It's a good thing, it's a good thing, it's a good thing,

right?

Tell us, you know.