#631: TESD Presents Mukbang

Hi, this is Tim the Record Store Clerk.

Want to take a minute out and say thanks to Bry and Walt and Q for doing the benefit podcast, everybody who bought one, and all the kind words.

It means the world, and it's really helped out a lot.

Thank you so much.

Adam has more to offer than just shoveling food down his throat.

No,

still looks small to me.

Holy fucking shit, that girl is big.

Tell him Steve Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave.

We got a full house here.

We got Q.

We got Walt.

Mm-hmm.

And to a lesser extent, we got Giddam.

Hey, hey, hey.

I had a good idea for Giddam.

I was on my way here, and this is something cute.

You and I wrote a script.

One day we were going down to

Baltimore,

and we saw a guy that was dressed as a Statue of Liberty in probably 20-degree weather.

The sign twirler?

The sign twirler.

Yeah, I forgot about that guy.

And we felt so bad for him.

We were like, can you imagine that's what you're driven to?

It's like, that's you got to do it.

It was so cold.

It was

for taxes, right?

Yeah, liberty taxes, I think.

Yeah, so we started talking about it, and we came up with a story, and we actually wrote a whole entire script around it, which I still think is a pretty good movie.

I think it would be really fun.

But I was thinking, in Giddam's off hours,

maybe not the Statue of Liberty, but if we could dress him as a four-colored demon with an arrow pointing upstairs.

Did you see that arrow that's in the stairs?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we did that.

I did a thing where it was just him a day in his life.

Oh, and he did it.

And I had him go out in the office coach in the outfit

on the highway and direct traffic, try to direct traffic into the parking lot.

I was not aware of that.

And a bus pulled up, that everybody gets off, everybody gets off from New York,

all the commuters, and he's trying to dance in front of them and point them in direction.

Where podcasts do you come check us out?

One person came up there.

What would you have to do?

You say one person looks?

Not one person.

One person.

They just get off with their briefcase and keep walking right to the cars.

I don't know what that.

I always thought that sign was just made to just like, because it's so difficult to find your way around here.

It's so like such an elaborate.

Can you imagine that

I brought a sign that huge because it's that difficult to find your way to the office?

No, that sign was made specifically for him to stand on the highway and try to direct traffic in here.

Yeah, we actually built it.

We had

John downstairs do the vinyl.

This is where you don't need to get into these little details.

That's why you are out on the highway dancing and pointing people

into the parking lot.

And I'm sitting here and do this now and do this.

Let me They give you the fine details of how the sign was made.

It's the boots all over again.

Oh, okay.

See, this is the constructive input I need.

Yes.

If I do this, if I just put my phone on the screen,

kill that story you're telling, or wrap it up, ASAP.

If I rub my nose,

but if I scratch my ear, then it's a good story.

Keep telling it.

And then

we have flea market sign language.

Somebody says my leg is hurting, that means it's not a good deal.

Walk away.

Why not just say it's not a good deal?

No.

It's awkward and rude in front of the guy who's trying to sell it.

So, oh, my leg is hurting.

What if it's a good deal?

You just go to the purchase.

Yeah,

you just be like, that sounds good.

Okay, okay.

All right.

I also had another idea for Gino for a Patreon show.

Okay.

Do you know what a mukbang is?

You know?

Yeah.

A mukbang.

Let me take a guess.

A muck what?

Mukbang.

Is it dirty?

It's not dirty, no.

Okay.

Muk

bang.

Gosh, it sounds so

sounds dirty, right?

Yeah, it sounds like some sort of

illicit porn.

But

I can't even wager, I can't even make a guess of what it could possibly be.

I'm going to a mukbang tonight.

It is a Korean internet phenomenon,

It has become a global trend since the mid-2010s, where individuals live stream themselves eating large quantities of food, often with interactions with the audience.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean,

10 years ago, what is happening?

10 years ago, he could do it.

Tell Steve Dave's Mukbe.

But I think at this stage of his life right now and the condition of his health, that would be rolling the dice, I think.

Yeah.

Does it have to be gross food?

Could it be like just

anything?

It says like very, like any kind of food, like usually from easily accessible places like fast food restaurants.

Do you have footage of this?

Is there a video we could see real quick?

Because I'm curious.

Hold on, I'll look it up while we're talking.

I feel he's

just now getting over

all of his ailments, and now to get thrown right back into a monk bank.

Into a mugbook.

It would be disastrous.

What is he getting over?

He just went to the front office.

He hobbled like a crab.

Oh, really?

That's pretty good.

That's actually a pretty good movement compared to what it is.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, boy.

Here's an example.

Holy shit.

It's a lady with like, it looks like 10 meatballs.

She's a big lady.

She's not a small girl.

And she has a fork that is somehow picking up.

Oh, my God.

Why are people doing this?

I don't know.

Internet.

Money.

But who's watching it?

How many views does it get?

Internet crazy.

It's this kid.

This one has 323,000 thumbs up.

323,000.

With 9.8 million views.

Holy friend.

The heavyset lady you just saw, 1.3 million views.

There's a bald lady eating fried chicken here for a million views.

They can't interact with the audience.

Let's see.

Here's some fried chicken.

Holy shit, it's a bald chick.

Yeah, all kinds of people.

A lot of Asians.

Is this just

Korean?

Yeah.

Okay.

But

so you think, Walt, that

Gidham doesn't have what it takes anymore.

No, I think, like I said, 10 years ago, he could eat anyone under the table.

Right.

But now I would fear that it would be detrimental to his health big time.

And I also think, you know, all kidding aside, I think he's more talented than just shoving food down his throat.

I really think he is.

Like, those people,

they don't have anything else to offer.

I do think

Gidham has more to offer than just shoveling food down his throat.

All right.

Gonna need a citation on that.

What do you got?

What do you mean?

In what way?

How?

I mean,

he makes things.

He's got a sense of humor.

It's not just shoveling food down his throat.

That's not his only skill.

But everybody knows that, even if he's mukbang, and they can say, okay, here's an additional thing that he's good at.

Yeah, shoving fried chicken down his gullet.

I don't think he's going to be able to shovel salad down.

I think he's going to probably go to the peanut butter chicken.

Oh, I love salad.

And I think that would be, I mean, it could be a peanut butter chicken coma.

I mean, it doesn't seem advisable.

And maybe, like, when he used to walk around the auction all the time and it was real thin, like back then, and he could, could you put it away back then?

No, you know, by then I had, like, trained myself to eat less.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like, I would usually have like

two hamburgers in the morning.

Like, you know, make, make my own hamburgers.

How much with the patties?

I mean, with the buns and everything?

No, no, just plain hamburgers.

Just almost like Salisbury steaks, yeah.

Sure, okay.

Or like two chicken breasts.

And then I would go till, but then I would have dinner later on.

Yeah.

Maybe a protein bar during the day.

No mukbanging.

No.

Is there like OnlyFans mukbanging?

I'm sure there is.

There's got to be.

I've never been on OnlyFans, and everything about OnlyFans makes me sound like I want to be on OnlyFans.

Like, everything's there.

I've never been on the website.

Do you think there's some people who have that's a sexual gratification to watch those videos?

I got to imagine that's the only thing, right?

Like, why else would you do it?

Yeah, they're called feeders.

Oh, okay.

But I thought maybe it's just the freak show aspect that you're just interested to see how much this person can put away.

Maybe, but I'm not going to pay $4.99 a month just for a freak show aspect.

Like, I got to be.

OnlyFans, yeah, but I think these people are readily available on TikTok.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they're on TikTok, YouTube, that kind of stuff.

I think OnlyFans is like gainers and feeders.

Gainers is people putting on weight?

Yes.

They want to put on weight.

So chub chasing-like type thing.

And then the other feeders are the people who encourage it

and get off on it.

Yeah, there's a whole...

Would it be a subreddit?

Get them?

Oh, just call it a subreddit.

Subgenre?

No, I mean, on Reddit.

Oh, yeah, there's definitely a subreddit.

I've seen, yeah, like girls that are like thin and they're like, look at all my progress.

And they're like, maybe 120 pounds in one picture and then 220 pounds in the next one.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, and they're like, look how great I'm doing.

And because they want to put on.

Yeah, they want to plump up for the

dollars.

I'm not here to judge anybody.

Go get it, girls.

Go get it.

At least you're getting paid to do it.

Right.

You know, I guess there's one positive, like, if you're going to do it anyway, it's going to happen.

You might as well get paid to do it.

Well, I saw that Lily Allen, the singer, was saying, I don't know how the fuck I saw it, was saying that she makes more money, not not that she's current and like, you know, I don't know if she's putting that, but she says she makes more money off of, she has an OnlyFans feed account.

And she goes, I get over 8 million streams a month on Spotify, and I still make more off OnlyFans foot photos.

Which is nuts.

How much are people paying for the week?

It just goes back to it.

Like, is that just easy money, man?

Get them.

Could you be rocking an OnlyFans foot account?

My feet?

No, no way.

I don't know, though.

There might be people who like like

the gnarlier the better.

Are males getting a lot of

moolah by showing off body parts?

I would think it's more predominantly a female thing.

I don't know.

I mean, you know, we found that website that had my feet on it, remember?

It was like it was like it was chopped up for the public consumption.

Do you think the people who subscribing know what percentage are male, you think,

to anybody's OnlyFans?

Oh,

non-kink specific, I would say.

Kink-specific.

Oh, kink-specific, I don't know, because women are kinky freaks.

Like, they can get into that shit.

I don't pay for it, though.

The idea being women don't have to pay for it generally.

I don't know.

I would think there'd be room

for a wider woman margin on the freak show stuff.

But I think like straight-up OnlyFans, just tits and like stuff,

it's like 90-something percent, dudes.

I think it's high 90s.

Yeah, it's gotta be.

But I've known a lot of fun girls.

Oh, look at this.

But she's pregnant, no?

That girl's not pregnant?

I don't believe so.

Yeah, that's an example of a good example.

Fit to fat.

Fit to fat.

Well, she's not that fit to begin with.

But yeah, wow.

Hey, you know, I don't like it for myself.

It's unhealthy, though.

I don't dig it.

Look, man, but half the shit I do is unhealthy.

I can't really.

Holy fucking shit.

That girl is big.

That's really unhealthy looking.

That's AI.

That is AI.

That's not real.

Holy fuck.

I don't believe it.

Okay.

You're a sucker.

Fall for anything.

I think when I was younger,

I would have made fun of

Chub Chasers, like in my 20s.

But the older I get, the more I'm like, hey, man,

I get it.

It's not for me still.

It's not for me still, but it's not.

Well, it's like I dated girls that were not that big, but like, you know.

Plump girls.

And, you know, I always kind of liked it, but like, that's a level of...

big.

That's like, I don't know.

Well, that's like morbidly obese.

Yeah, but there are guys that just fucking love that.

Which is, hey, but that's where I'm saying.

Like, I'm like, hey, man, go for it.

Go for it.

I watch,

I was watching, I'm Done With It Now, Love After Lockup.

And there's a guy there who's like,

he looks like the size of Jimmy.

And then he has this massive

wife that he's super into.

And it is, it's weird.

It's just like, there's somebody for everybody.

I had a teacher in high school whose wife was really big and he always would make fun of him, but he would be like, nah, you put her in black pumps by the pool and she looks like a goddess.

He was taking this to his class.

Yeah, yeah.

This was fucking right all boys' school.

Yeah.

Catholic.

Is he still teaching?

You think?

All these guys back when I went to that school were all like retired cops in Python.

It was not real teachers.

Oh, they didn't even have the credentials?

Yeah, they did.

They did.

But it was guys who were like just retired from the police department.

They're like, yeah, these fucking skulls and these porkers.

Like, shit like that.

It was great.

It was the greatest.

No, it was just so funny, man.

I love those guys.

But,

yeah.

Wow.

I just got a note from Sage's teacher.

Uh-oh, I mean, right?

Tomorrow's National Down Syndrome Day, so I told Sage it's her day.

It's all about her.

And she told me she's going on vacation.

Going on vacation?

Where's she going?

I don't know.

I don't know.

She has a lot of weird ideas about, like, she, I just had to buy her prom bid, which was, I can't remember like her prom bid.

Like, you know, when you go to the prom, yeah, you have to, like, pay to go to the prom.

Okay, yeah, I don't know.

Right.

Okay.

So it was 100 bucks to go to the prom.

And she's still, she's.

What do you get for 100 bucks?

I think you just get in.

Food.

Okay.

Yeah, because it's.

I can't remember.

Did we eat dinner?

Yeah.

Okay.

I thought we did.

I was trying to remember.

I told him everybody.

Yeah.

We were at the Shalamar on Staten Island.

Oh, I remember.

Shalomar.

It's a Chinese supermarket now.

Oh, really?

Yeah, it's weird.

But she told me she's still insisting that James Charles is going to go to the prom with her.

Okay.

And I'm not exactly sure how.

Is James still in the picture?

No, this is James Charles.

Prince James is in the past.

He's in the rear view.

Oh, is she moved on?

This is James Charles, who's a very well-known YouTuber.

He has like 17 million subscribers.

I thought this was a real kitten or class.

Is he in the the mukbang?

No, he's definitely not in the mukbang.

He's a super effeminate gay guy.

Okay.

That she can't, obviously, she doesn't know the difference.

She loves him.

She loves him.

She thinks he's cute.

When are you going to have that talk, though, to let her know that?

Probably after the problem.

He didn't come?

What a jerk.

He said he was on his way.

Yeah, I'm not sure exactly how to get certain things through to to her, you know.

Like, I didn't go like, hey, he doesn't like girls.

Yeah.

Well, at this point, I'm just trying to be like, he lives far away.

He lives in L.A.

He's very busy.

I don't know if he's going to have time.

Plus, she's like, he's my man.

I'm like, he's not your goddamn man.

What are you talking about?

I love it.

I love him, Mike.

Oh, dude, it's crazy.

It's all like

it's all

day as soon as she gets home.

It's non-stopping.

No, well, her talking to herself, her doing her makeup, because for Christmas, she got an official James Charles makeup palette.

Oh, wow.

So she's super into that.

Oh, this guy, I think you said this guy was a YouTuber.

He is a YouTuber.

And he puts out his own makeup.

He sells stuff.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he's pretty well known.

Okay.

Yeah.

But I'm not exactly sure how to get it across to her that he's not going to be there.

And you're going to have to probably hang out with your lame friends.

Some of them literally lame.

Yeah, that's not an insult.

It is a description.

I went to see Broadway play.

Well,

did I tell you about this?

No, I don't think so.

And Juliet?

Oh,

familiar with that.

It's a story.

It sounds on paper like something that it's like the absolute last place I would ever want to go.

Is it a romance?

It's more of a female empowerment thing where it's like

it takes place at the opening night of

Romeo and Juliet, and Shakespeare's there, and his wife Ann Hathaway is in town, and she hears the ending that, no, not the actress, like his wife's name was actually in Hathaway.

Oh, goddamn.

Yeah, I know,

and she decides she doesn't like the ending.

Why is Juliet killing herself?

Like,

you know, that's not her choice.

She should go on to live a life.

And, you know, and it's about like Juliet doesn't kill herself.

She goes to Paris to become her own woman.

It's kind of like wicked, like

a different spin on a classic story.

It is, and it's all the songs are

like pop hits.

It's like jukebok musical.

It's all songs you know by this one guy who wrote so many hit songs, and it's all like

dude.

It's like on paper, it's like the last place I would ever want to be.

It was fucking awesome.

It was so much fun.

Really?

Yeah, it was fucking dope.

I can't recommend that.

And Juliet enough.

I was going to say, like, how much would you regret going, but it seems like dude,

it was literally like,

I was like, I cannot believe how much I'm loving this play.

So now, would you say you have a different perspective on sisters doing it for themselves?

I think I do.

Yeah.

Well, they did this thing where they were also like...

One play.

That's all I fucking talk.

I'll explain why.

39 years of cultivating a Staten Island.

One play.

They made it funny.

They weren't banging you over the head.

Everything they were going for was presented in

a comedy pill.

And it was pretty fucking funny.

I enjoyed it, man.

You know, and it made me rethink about some of my stances.

You know, they snuck in a lesson without me even knowing.

That's the key, I think.

I walked out, man, and I was just like, man, I got to be a better person.

But they didn't tell me to be a better person.

But

used a feather to tuck your funny bone rather than the hammer to bash in your skull.

Yes.

Yeah.

That was it exactly.

Right.

So they tricked him.

He fell for it.

Oh, and it was like, it was all like non-binary.

It was all, it was all, and it was just like, they just, they stuck the landing.

BQ just turned, what, 50 and still learning new things.

Yeah, yeah.

Love it.

49.

Don't age them too much.

Oh, give me the year.

Give me the year.

It was great.

Yeah, I might go see it again.

So if you wanted to go, well,

I'm going to Broadway next month.

What are you going to say?

I'm going to see Stranger Things.

Oh, that got here.

That came?

Yes.

Oh, man.

You got to let me know how it is.

Yeah, that looks a little bit.

I don't expect to be any to learn anything.

Right.

And I don't want to.

I just want to see cool shit.

I want want to see fucking

demonoid monsters dancing and

bald girls, you know,

making people levitate

and blood coming down their nose.

I'm open to all there's a lot of blood.

Yeah.

And I knew there was going to be singing, but I think.

Oh, it's a musical?

I assumed it was.

How else could you do it?

I mean, I would expect it.

It's got to be a musical, right?

I don't know.

That seems like a strange marriage

of properties, but maybe.

Well, it was Back to Future future a musical yeah okay yeah king kong was a musical spider-man was a musical yeah yeah but there are a lot of plays that aren't musicals oh i didn't know that yeah we went to see um is harry potter a musical larry david uh

yeah larry david on the roadway uh 12 angry men that you want to go see isn't a musical i i don't think harry potter was a musical but i could be wrong

So there are plays.

Okay.

Anything I've seen always has some people singing and dancing in it.

Which is nice.

You know, yeah.

I'm down.

Just says theater production.

Yeah, I don't think it's musical.

What, the Stranger Things?

No, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child.

Yeah, I don't think Harry Potter is.

You know what?

I mean, look, I'm not going to be upset if there's no singing and dancing in it.

As long as there's some blood in it and some monsters,

I'll be satisfied.

All right.

How are they going to bring that show back at this point, do you think?

Stranger Things?

Yeah, where everybody's like in their mid-20s.

They got to do the time jump, right?

It's just a time jump.

Time jump.

I mean,

it feels like it's been off the air for over a decade now.

Yeah, it really feels like the last time I watched it was a while ago.

Probably was.

I can't wait for it to come back.

I think this is it, though, right?

This is the final season.

The final season?

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

I definitely want to see how it all ties together.

I wonder if it'll be as fun when they're not kids, though.

You know, like if they're adults and they're still fighting the same monsters and shit.

Yeah, I don't ever think like that.

To me, I feel they've the writers have done a pretty good job making me care about the characters, whether they're

not teenagers or their late teens, and now they'll be in their 20s.

Right.

Yeah.

As long as it's well written,

I think it's cool.

As long as they also give Will Byers another haircut, because that thing they had him in the last season, that homecut was fucking God.

I felt so bad for that actor.

I was like, oh, it just looks weird, man.

Yeah, I remember that.

He wasn't in it that much when he was.

He updated that haircut for the poor kid.

So it says it's a play, not a musical.

Oh, nice.

Fuck, man.

My whole ensemble I was going to wear was for a musical.

Now I'm going to have to.

Well, we'll have to get a different way of doing it.

Which way are you going?

Maybe there's a matinee of Angeliette.

I can come meet you.

Next month.

I don't know what the date is.

It's a Saturday.

Are you conflating Stranger Things with Rocky R Picture Show?

Shows up and fish nets.

Throwing bread at the stage.

Have you been watching Daredevil?

I have.

I have.

Yeah.

That

says to me, you're enjoying it, are you?

I'm starting to have some complaints.

That smile was a lingering after and Juliet.

Yeah, that was and Juliet.

Joy going away.

I mean, look, that was a good scene with Frank Castle, I thought.

The internet loved it.

The internet blew up over the scene of Frank Castle.

But I thought it would have been better if that was just the first scene.

And then there was another scene where Frank Castle was the punisher killing people.

You know what I mean?

I thought it was just like the intro to him being back.

Now, is that it for Frank Castle, you think?

I don't know what I'm talking about.

No, in this series.

Is that the only time we're going to see him?

I don't think so.

I think they're setting up

those cops as like.

I don't think they.

I don't.

I'm surprised because I don't think they want to touch Frank Castle with a 10-foot pole.

I don't think they want to show him blowing away bad guys.

They got to.

I just don't think they want to show him.

It's time to take.

You can't.

The Punisher is a great fucking character with a long history that people love.

You can't give him up to fucking right-wing nut jobs.

You can't.

You have to keep him in the show.

Why do right-wing people not like Frank Castle?

No, they love him.

Oh, that's a good one.

That's the problem.

Okay.

Yeah, they love him a little too much.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

I like

thin blue line flags with the Punisher.

Yeah.

And look, I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but there are some people that

take it a little too far.

So I don't think you can let them have it, man.

I think that you're going to see a neutered Frank Castle.

Well, we already saw that with the series where he was running around with a teenage girl

and never wearing a punch shit.

That's still more fucking testosterone that you're going to see from Disney, though.

I don't think that's a good thing.

That was Netflix.

Well, what's the point then?

You can't, I hope not.

I mean, maybe you're right, but.

Maybe they'll do it again with the feather.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Maybe they'll tickle your funny bone with Frank Castle, right?

Well, I know everybody of a certain fucking type jerks off all over themselves about that scene in the comic book where Frank confronts the cops with the symbol, where he's like, you're a cop, you took an oath, I'm not.

Take that off.

and he rips it off him and shit like that.

I'm just hoping they don't translate that to the fucking series, but I have a feeling like they will, you know.

But overall, though, I just think Daredevil is like, if you're going to make a show about

Call Daredevil, he's got to be in it more than

10 minutes of the first four episodes.

Yeah, that's where I'm like, come on, guys.

Like, we got to see it.

It really feels like they've missed the ball and they have not.

Maybe it's a budget thing, and they're just saving the action for the second half.

He just doesn't have the the cash.

Yeah, no, I'm saying I agree.

They don't have just a small time production company.

Yeah, yeah.

No, you're right.

It only costs $2,000 to get to the park.

No, but

they announced they're doing a, you know how they did Werewolf by Night?

Yeah.

They're doing a Punisher one.

A one-shot.

Yeah, so it's like

somebody over there clearly is hoping that they can get a handle on that character.

I don't think so.

I would be shocked if you see the Punisher that you remember from the comics, that you know and love.

I'm just holding out hope.

You know, they have done everything

to try to destroy that Punisher in the comics.

Yeah, they sure have.

And I really doubt there's any

people

in Hollywood who are

going to

bring back Frank the way that...

I'm hoping there is.

I'm hoping because

only because I know so many people in this street and I know their real feelings.

And a lot of them are like, I just can't fucking wait till we could start doing fun shit again.

So it's like somebody's got to peek their head out and be like, you know what?

We're going to make the Punisher fucking a killing machine, killing bad guys.

Why can't they do it?

What do you think the reason for that?

Cops have.

The whole thing with the cops adopting the Punisher

logo and stuff.

I think that was okay because that had happened for years, but I think

some white supremacy group started using it and shit, and then you're like,

come on, guys, why do you got to fucking pick the Punisher?

You know what I mean?

Like, fucking hell, man.

I love that Punisher t-shirt I have.

I don't know.

I feel like it's.

Can you not wear it anymore, you feel?

You've had to hang it up in the closet.

I think,

I feel like I can start wearing it now.

That's what I'm saying.

On IJ?

Yeah.

No, no, it's a Marvel.

It's a Marvel one.

I can't wear it anymore.

I can't wear a Marvel one.

Yeah.

If he was DC, though, I would wear it.

Really?

Yeah, I I would.

I was going to say, I have an old Leonard Skynyrd shirt with a rebel flag on it.

Can I start wearing it again?

Yeah.

Is it done forever?

I don't even know.

I might fold that one and put it back on the Goodwill.

I might give that to Goodwill.

Yeah.

Let somebody else deal with it.

If you lived in Georgia, I'd be like, maybe.

But like in the north, we understand that to be only one thing.

Right.

And I don't really, I don't feel strongly enough about rep and Leonard Skynnard to.

But the Punisher, like, I don't think, I don't think it's fair that he's taken from us.

So that's stance I'm going to hold.

Well, yeah, I mean, you're going to have to make your voice a lot more louder if you want the Punisher back that

you love.

You might have to get a little bit more vocal, a little bit more online presence to

think about.

It's too late then.

I'm not doing it.

You've got to make your voice heard.

Yeah, it's one thing to wear a Punisher t-shirt.

It's another thing to argue with people online who are like,

evil for word.

her.

You can't like Portager.

How dare you like something that I don't like?

Type thing, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, who wants to have those conversations?

But in public, and somebody was like, What's that?

I would be willing to be like, you know, it's a great character.

And, you know, I don't want to.

You know, I subscribe to the mindset, and I feel it's done

so much

for

my mental well-health is like, you know what, man, those comics, they're still on my shelf.

Yeah.

They can't take that away.

They'll never, you know, it's that Punisher or

whoever we're talking, whatever character it is that Hollywood has destroyed or neutered or

just bastardized.

And, you know, they lost

the character's soul.

It really doesn't change anything because the original material is still there.

You're right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why you have to look at any kind of remake.

Yeah, Star Wars, anything.

Anything, Yeah, any of it.

You have to be like, you have to remind yourself, yeah, like it still exists.

They're not taking anything away.

Yep.

They're adding to, but they're just ruining.

Yeah, they're just wrecking everything.

I talk Sunday Jeff off the ledge seemingly monthly

about Star Wars.

I have to remind him.

I'm just holding on hope.

He hasn't given up like everybody else.

He's furious at times.

It's like he's a madman, wide-eyed and frothing at the mouth about what they did to Star Wars.

And I have to be like, those three movies are still there.

Yeah.

For how long?

Don't take it away.

Doesn't he own them in multiple formats?

Yes.

You know, it's only a matter of time for they overdub it and make it illegal for me to watch.

All right.

So it was illegal for me to watch.

Microphones listening to me.

They hear me say Greeno Shot first.

No, no, no.

He's the most passive, completely like, oh, Star Wars Wars still sucks.

Oh, well.

Yeah, I do.

I have hope for the Punisher, though, Walt.

Maybe not this version of him, but

so what did the original vision of Daredevil Reborn, what could it have been if they scrapped it and the guy who plays the Punisher was like, no, I'm not going to be involved in this.

in this show.

Oh, is that what happened?

Yeah.

Yeah, and he said, I'm out.

I'm not going to be, I don't want the gig.

And they rewrote stuff and said, okay, we're going this direction now.

And then he came, he decided to.

He stood up for the character?

Yeah.

That's what I'm hearing online.

That's a cool, man.

Now, I don't believe anything I read online.

So it could be complete and utter bullshit.

But apparently he said he declined and said, no, thanks, but no, thanks.

I won't be the punisher in Daredevil Reborn.

But then he agreed to do it after he got some rewrites.

Ah, fucking makes me love that guy.

That's all.

John Saint Barental?

John Darren.

John Barental, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, that's so good to hear, man.

Somebody who actually loves the fucking character they're playing and stuff.

Like, that's pretty great.

Yeah, apparently that's what happened.

But what could that original Daredevil have been?

I think we're seeing bits and pieces of it.

I don't think they scrapped it.

Maybe it's that scene I described where he goes up to the cops and he's like, you can't do that.

Wag, wag, wag, wag, wag, wag, wag.

Maybe they were doing that.

Who knows?

Yeah, but there's a lot of courtroom drama in Daredevil, man.

A lot of like boring talking heads.

Fisk and his wife.

Yeah, but at least Fisk and his wife paid off in the last few minutes where you're like, oh, he is still a fucking monster.

Don't you like that?

I would rather that.

He's so unrealistic, though, if that's what he did to

his wife's lover.

Sure, but the alternative is that he didn't do anything to his wife's lover.

I think we both know it's unrealistic to keep a man captive for

not centuries.

But he's comic books.

That's where I'm like, it's comic books.

That's all.

I would have liked to have just seen that he beat him to a, you know,

I thought he was going to cut his hands off.

When she said that shit about his hands,

I was like, oh, fuck, this guy's going to show up with two fucking pirate hooks in his hands by the fourth episode.

Yeah.

It's a little.

This episode, I was hoping for a little bit more Daredevil.

Just a fleeting glimpse of the costume.

Well, we did see it hanging up in a closet.

Yeah, we did.

A little screw in a Leonard Skidder shirt and a Punisher t-shirt.

That's all we saw in the Daredevil costume hanging up in a closet.

Yeah, yeah.

We'll get there.

Like I hear about these shows that you guys watch and I'm like, all right, I don't want to be on the same page as them.

But then you talk about them as if they suck.

And I'm like, well, why would I fucking bother?

Well, they're still Matlock, though.

That's still kicking me out.

Matt Lock is still going strong.

New episode tonight.

Yep.

Yeah.

Me and Giddam are now,

we make appointment viewing for television.

We haven't done that since we were kids.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

We text each other after it's over.

Oh, all right.

Asking questions.

But what sort of questions?

Like, what did this mean?

What did this mean?

Did they bring this up in an earlier episode?

That kind of thing.

Oh, all right.

That's great.

And trying to guess what's going to happen in the next three episodes.

Did you guys watch Reacher?

Did we talk about this?

No, no.

Reacher?

Never watch Reacher.

Oh, boys.

Watch Reacher, man.

Don't watch Reacher.

It's on Amazon.

It's on its third season.

It's about a guy who

he's a military vet who who just

is it based on the books.

Tom Cruise?

No, those are based on a book.

Okay.

And it's just this military guy and he's played by this fucking beast of a fucking man.

And he just walks the lands fucking using his skills to fight crime and beat the shit out of fools.

And you're like, oh, this is awesome, man.

Yeah.

And like he's so big and intimidating that like it's great because in the show, people go to star fights with him and then they'll just look at him and they'll just like cower away and shit like that.

It's like old school fucking ass kicking.

Like,

it's great.

It's legitimately great.

It's called Reacher.

Reacher.

Jack Reacher is his name.

Jack Reacher.

Yeah.

And I've been enjoying the fuck out of it.

Did you ever see Banshee?

Love Banshee.

Was it anything like Banshee?

Oh, dude.

It's not as like Banshee is over the top.

Right.

Banshee's like a live-action comic book.

Yeah, Banshee's over the top in a great way.

This is a little bit more grounded, but it's playing in the same kind of like an unstoppable force comes to town and just

you're going going to get your ass.

If this guy sets his sights on you, like you're fucked, goddamn it.

Just straight up fucked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh-oh, what's the matter?

No, you just went dead for.

Didn't I?

No, he went dead for.

Oh, well.

It's still going.

So I was just blowing Reacher.

I mean, people could fill in the blanks, I guess, but they hear you.

No, I can hear you fine.

And I started reading, oh, this is a little pop culture episode.

I love this.

I started reading a new series of books.

Oh.

Yeah, called

Dungeon Crawler Carl.

Have you heard of this?

I think I heard about it from Brad.

He is Chuck's co-host.

It seems like they would enjoy it.

My buddy Nick, Nick Givenetti, you know, sent it to me for my birthday.

And it's a book about

this galactic race of aliens who basically force humans into a Dungeons and Dragons game.

And it's about this one guy who's kind of like a knucklehead, and his pet cat gets sucked into the dungeon and the cat gets its intelligence upgraded.

So it's this guy and his ex-girlfriend's cat fighting its way through this fucking Dungeons and Dragons type world.

But it's really funny, really cynical.

And there's seven books for each layer of the dungeons, a new book.

It is so much fun, man.

It's like, it's like

he goes in, he's wearing boxer shorts, and he hates that he's wearing boxer shorts so much, that the game keeps giving him magical boxer shorts that he has, like the stats he gets by wearing the boxers are just too good to pass up.

So like the whole game, he's just running around in a hard-covered boxer shorts with this fucking talking cat.

It's almost like you could see young Bruce Campbell playing the part, like

a knucklehead type thing that's going out.

I'm loving it, man.

I finished the first book in a day and a half.

I'm already started reading the second one.

Dungeon Crawler Carl, man.

No lessons, Walt.

No lessons.

Not a single lesson to be learned in the book.

Just fun.

It sounds like it's soon to be a motion picture.

I fucking hope so.

I hope so.

Yeah.

I'd like to recommend that to the audience.

Dungeon Crawler Carl.

Dungeon Crawler Carl.

Want to know what I would recommend to the audience?

Please.

Miundis.

Yeah, I'm straight.

Meandies, you're right.

Did they give you a magical short?

Do they have magical stuff?

Yeah, they should do a crossover with Dungeon Crawler Carl and do like magical boxer shorts.

I don't think they do boxer shorts, do they?

Yeah, you just went out again.

Yeah.

I don't know what's going on.

Maybe it's this.

1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2-3.

I can hear you.

All right.

Yeah, it's weird.

It just dips out for like a millisecond.

Yeah.

That sounds like anything I'm saying is fucking important anyway.

What I'm saying is important, though.

Because the thing about being a guy is we're pretty much stuck with what we've got appearance-wise.

Male makeup?

What to go?

I'm not going to read all this stuff.

That's not true.

Sage's boyfriend wears makeup.

That's true.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's why I can't read this shit.

I don't want to lie.

A peck push-up bra?

What would the bros say?

If you saw your bro wearing a peck push-up, bra, would it bother you?

At this point, nothing.

Nothing my bros you.

Meggings that accentuate this caboose?

Walt, you could use that.

Yeah, I definitely could.

My caboose needs some

uplifting.

But, dude, there's kids out there.

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Yeah, you're not supposed to be wearing meggings.

What?

Why would they mention kids?

Because

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And they don't want kids seeing it, I guess.

That is a weird.

Are you sure you're reading the right copy?

Let me see.

Hold on.

Oh, wait.

No.

This is my diary.

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I'm dying now?

Yeah.

What's going on here?

What's happening?

Might just be the output.

Hmm.

Yeah, but you heard me die on yours.

Yeah, definitely.

So it can't just be the output.

Hmm.

All right.

Well, anyway.

I thought you had was dying, and I agreed.

Yeah.

I got to bring up kids again.

Hold on.

Versus how loud.

When you say it gives you the appearance of a major package.

Right.

Now,

what happens, though, when those meantis come off and that package isn't there, though, then?

Isn't that selling

false goods?

And

women do it all the time with their petted bras.

Hey, man, by then the trap has sprung.

Guess what?

I'm small.

But have you ever been disappointed, you know, when you got a bra off and you're like, whoa, these Tatas looked way bigger under the sweater?

No, not bigger.

I have run into some wayward nipple placement that I've been surprised at, but nothing that you can.

Neon Ds can't be held responsible for that, though.

Yeah, one shooting off to the left, one shooting down.

They can't be responsible for that.

Right.

There's no surgery that can.

Look, I dove right in and they were just as fun.

I'm just saying I was surprised.

I was just surprised.

But it's like wearing, like, for a guy, if you're wearing a padded shirt that makes it look like you have muscles.

Yeah.

Then you take it off and you you don't have the muscles.

Like, that's awkward then.

Like, how do you like, well,

that look you'll see on the face has got to be like, oh, yeah, I really don't have muscles.

Oh, and also my cocks, half the size I thought it was too with these Miundis.

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I don't know.

I mean, isn't there something to be made for like being proud of what you got and maybe not trying to have to like,

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Miundis would probably say, Walt, we're paying you for this.

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If they just had the Punisher,

fighting the mafia, I think they can get away with that.

I think it's when you get into street-level crimes that people are like, hey, man, maybe nobody should be, maybe you shouldn't be blowing away a mugger.

But I think if you set up like the mafia,

I think you could still do it.

I think nobody cares about seeing a bunch of guinea getting blown away by the punches.

I think you're wrong.

I think that's why Sopranos towards the end was getting a lot of criticism.

And that was before the internet went batshit crazy.

And there were still people who were like, this is absolutely offensive to

when Sophos first came out.

That's what it was.

But I think the internet is louder now than it was for sure then.

Yeah, but but I think you could still get

away with it.

You could, you know, throw the Irish mafia in there, I think the Russian mafia is fine.

Russian mafia is a great one.

Yeah, if you work with organized crime, I think you still get away with this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just no, you know, everybody's going to start wiping in their eyes and crying if it's like a drug dealer on a street corner.

Then you got to worry about what happened.

But like, you know, a guy in a $3,000 suit with a pinky ring.

Who's also selling drugs?

Blow them away.

Blow them away.

Okay, it's hard to like they're blurring the lines, though.

Oh, it's all right, bro.

Don't try to make sense of it.

We're in modern society.

Yeah, Russian mafia, track suits.

You get away with all that stuff.

Okay.

And that's not selling out the character because that was his main focus for a long, long time.

Was mafia.

And only what case was just he's only Manucci, remember?

He's only going to go after Russian mobsters.

I do think you can get away with Italian and Irish still.

Yeah.

Not Ukrainian.

No.

No.

No, no, no, no, no.

Let's not be idiots about this.

We're trying to get points on the board, get them, not make a statement.

You want to get the show, you know, made.

Yeah.

Ukrainian mafia, could you imagine?

Yeah.

No, I think you do it.

Or, you know what?

Have them just shoot rubber bullets and not kill anybody.

It's no big deal.

Nobody wants to see that.

I'm fine with that.

Where's the punishment?

Or do it like they used to do it in the old Marvel comics where the gang was like a white guy, a Puerto Rican guy, a black guy, an Asian guy.

I think you're playing with fire.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think.

Oh, you could probably get away with Yakuza still.

They just got to be really well-dressed.

I think if they're well-dressed, they can do it.

In the post-COVID world?

John Wick's still out there doing it, bro.

He's fighting Russians.

He's, you know, I think you still do it.

I just think, give him rubber bullets.

He's not punishing anybody.

Yeah, then it's like E.T.

where they're like, instead of guns, give them flashlights.

No, no, no.

That's what he used to do in the comics.

When he used to take out people, like he didn't want to kill him, he shoot them with rubber bullets.

Sure, when he had to assault a cop station or something like that, he put in rubber bullets.

You ever been hit with a rubber bullet?

No, I don't think it's fun, but it's like I also am free to commit crimes.

You want a serious punishment from the public.

punishment.

You put a welt on your face from a rubber bullet.

I don't think it's unpleasant.

I think if they hit Don Corleone in the face with a rubber bullet, he's still out there.

He'll blow his eye out.

Yeah, but the next day, he's still doing things, though.

He's still out.

He blows the other eye out.

Okay, we're getting closer.

Yeah.

I don't know.

They killed his kids, though.

Like, you're not going to have to use rubber bullets.

You want to get this made, Q, or you want to get it.

You do want to get it made out.

At expense.

I don't want to get it made of rubber bullets.

I will go for the $3,000 suit crimes.

Okay.

That I'll do.

You still get away with that.

Is that where the nation has gone?

We want to see rich people punished?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, you saw the Luigi Maniushi.

Yeah, yeah.

What was that guy's name?

Yeah, Luigi Manjion.

Yeah.

I mean, there was, I mean,

when is that trial starting?

Oh, I don't know.

That's probably going to be a while.

That'd be very interesting.

Yeah.

I hope he represents himself i've seen people

that'd be interesting oh really yeah because i've i because people would be hanging on every word yeah you know if he's he seems like he's very smart and articulate does he have you've heard he's like giving well he went to the finest schools and everything he he should be

well they've been releasing letters that he's written to people while in prison yeah and so very articulate yeah

but you have to look at it through the lens of he's not writing those without going to his lawyer first

so

There's got to be a movie about him coming up soon, I would have to think.

There was an HBO doc.

Yeah, but I'm talking about a movie, though.

I've seen people with the tattoos of like with the bullet and then the defend, deny, whatever.

I've seen tattoos of that, man.

Like, how could you?

It resonated.

It resonated, man.

People who get dicked around by fucking insurance companies,

they finally saw somebody

be like, fuck it.

I'm not taking this shit no more.

Right.

You know, that resonates with the people who get

dicked over and see loved ones suffer because insurance companies

deny them care that may have saved their life or at least didn't make their final years agony.

Dude, I want to fucking shoot somebody because they don't cover my whole cortisone shot.

I can't imagine these people who are like, yeah, they've paid in their whole life.

They're like, oh, my God, now I'm sick.

And they're like, sorry.

I mean, what pieces of shit.

Especially when they're making billions of dollars

offered.

It's like, guys,

how about all billionaires?

Let me just be happy with that and help these people out.

I know.

It's wild.

Well, I guess that's it since it's privatized.

It's like, that's it's not about health and it's not about medical care, it's about money.

That's all.

And your insurance agents who have to, like the people you deal with, you're not dealing with the big, big wigs who are on the board, but the people who have to relay that information, how

do they

do it day by day, denying and

putting up

red tape that people have to go through, going through all the songs and dances that they do to make people not get the money.

Detachment.

You just detach yourself.

How can you detach?

How?

I want to meet how you can detach yourself from that.

It's like being a drone operator in a war.

You just have to pretend you're playing a video game or something.

Or being like a vet tech or something, just seeing sick animals constantly all day that you have to put down or, you know.

Right.

But then there's also, but you also get on, when you're a vet tech, you also get to save animals to offset that.

Yeah.

What is that person who's denying people, what are they getting everybody?

That's probably where's their shot of that's probably your job is like you're the denying guy.

And there's argument to be made that you're helping the animals when you're putting them down because you're reducing suffering.

So we can't really apply that to humans

much as we'd like to.

Yeah, but so when they what do they get their feeling of like, well, at least today I did something good for this cup, this family?

Usually they're not.

Unless there's a department that solely denies, then yes.

I believe that their MO is to deny as much coverage as possible, no matter what the situation is.

Maximize profit.

I don't think a vet tech is

a good comparison.

Not in the same old class, no.

Well, I'm just saying is that the

detachment, yes.

I'm not saying that they're the same.

I'm just saying.

Well, I mean, yeah.

That's a job where you need to develop a detachment so that you can go home and

not dwell on your day.

At least there's some good things during a day.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Some animal comes in and you helped it, you know, and it got better.

Yeah.

You got to play with kittens, all that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But, you know, I'm sure.

It's probably easier, too, because the denial person is on the phone.

They're not like across a desk from them.

And it happens, and it's not just healthcare.

I remember when Sandy hit all the things that they're like, oh, we're not going to cover this, we're not going to cover that.

And we're like, the fuck?

What do you mean?

Like,

we paid it, we never missed the payment.

And now you're like, we're not going to cover this now.

But it was in the, and they tried to like, well, it may not have happened because of Sandy.

And there's a technical term.

If it was a cyclone, you would be covered.

But this was not technically a hurricane.

Yes,

it wasn't water damage.

It was wind damage because the wind pushed down.

All the different verbiage that they try to

use to just get out of

the tree was to leave you homeless, basically.

The tree was pushed down by the wind, not because

the water logged the roots and made that detach.

It's so scummy.

It's like, fuck you, man.

Yeah, that's a tough job.

For those guys who have to deny, because I'm sure they're not getting paid all that great of money either.

And they're just doing a job, but what a shitty job.

Well, soon they'll all be replaced by cold, heartless AI to tell you that they're not giving you

your payment so I don't know whether that's better or worse

that's poignant yeah it's all going downhill the more I hear about this AI the crazier it is

do you think it'll replace you

I'm too old and what are they gonna replace dicking around on a fucking hidden camera show like they'll talk about a worse use of fucking computing power but I think I'm just too old but like the

trillions of dollars put into research to make

I take another season.

I'm sure we're cheaper.

I just saw the new Boston Dynamics video where the robots doing cartwheels and shit.

Yeah, I think I'm too old.

I think it's kids in there.

But then again, the direct market, YouTube, I think that is going to be the future.

You know, direct to consumer type stuff.

And I, you know,

people still have that outlet.

But yeah, man, like, hey, I'm just going to wipe the board clean.

It's going to be great, get them.

You'll be all right, though.

You won't be affected.

You'll be okay.

Don't worry about it.

AI can't sleep on a couch like I can.

AI can't put together a baby stroller.

That's right.

AI can't spin a sign on the side of the highway.

That's right.

What great jobs and options.

I mean, if I was a 15-year-old kid, I'd be like, and I would, they don't have the brain development yet to be terrified like that.

But what the fuck's the world going to look like in 30 years?

It's crazy.

Yeah, even now you get tricked by stuff.

Like on Twitter, I'm like, oh, wait, wait, that's not real.

Or Instagram or something.

It is.

I get my Facebook feed because I like helicopters and stuff.

I get fed pictures of jets.

But now it also thinks that I like the military.

And I just constantly get these military AI images.

Of what?

Of just like fake soldiers and stuff, like loaded onto the back of a semi-trailer, like dragging a giant American flag.

And it's like, why don't pictures look like this trend?

And it's obviously AI.

But there's tons of people who are upvoting it.

And like you look at the links, and it's all old people.

And it's like, oh, yeah, yeah.

God bless our troops.

Stay safe.

Even if the picture's fake, it's still the same sentiment, right?

It is, but it isn't.

You know,

there's actual

soldiers out there.

Yeah, now.

And it's the thing is that the people don't, people don't realize that it's AI.

But I think if you look at AI now, look at those 10-second clips of it, you could tell it's AI.

There's going to be the point where you can't tell.

We're all

the

picture of the magician with.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They made the Polaroid front dimension X come to life.

Yeah, they made this thing.

That's amazing.

Really?

Where are we?

You got that?

Let me see that.

I can upload it.

Yeah, you can find it.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

But you can still see it.

It's shocking how good it looks.

Yeah, because it makes a picture of my daughter, Caitlin, come to life, and it looks looks like her.

Wow.

It's scary, spooky, and also

just inspiring because you're like, wow, this is what people are going to be capable of just right now.

And what will it look like in 20 years?

Fucking five years.

It's going to be insane.

Yeah, because even

there was when she ran away, there was a part that you could see disappeared into another part.

Yeah,

there's blemishes and there's things, like bugs in it.

Right.

But it looks so good that you're like,

holy shit.

How is this possible?

And that's first draft on an app of some sort like that.

Yeah, fuck.

Ooh, we.

Yeah.

Oh, I found out why it's so goddamn hot in this office.

Oh, what do you got?

Turns out the yarn lady has a guinea pig.

Wait, what?

Yarn lady has a guinea pig?

A pet guinea pig that can't be in, I guess, colder than certain temperatures.

Okay.

So all the heat gets turned up because she doesn't want him to die.

And we got to abide by that till that guinea pig passes over to the Rainbow Bridge.

But is she allowed to bring it to work like that?

I bring my dogs to work.

Well, you can't talk about getting them like that.

That's not a nice thing.

But you do bring your dogs to work, but you don't, like, it doesn't impact anybody else.

Like, nobody else has to sit in an 80-degree office because you brought your dogs.

You know what?

I was bitching about this, but then when I found out the guinea pig.

It's a guinea pig.

You're like,

I'll smelter it.

I'll squeeze my balls off for advantage.

His name is Scooter.

Scooter the guinea pig?

Yeah, well, I already love Guinea.

I already love Scooter.

I haven't even met him yet.

You could deal with a little bit of 90-degree weather in an office.

Okay, what are you going to do?

Oh, you know, we can get another office.

Just reiterating that on the

conditioning.

The lease is up in October.

If somebody wants to go out and look for

an office.

You're okay with it now?

Yeah.

I'm not doing anything now.

He knows you're never going to do it.

Yeah.

But if I did, you'd be okay with it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

I'll put a hell in on it.

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And there's like a lens flare that, like, travels because it was in the photo that somebody took.

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I just saw it on the left-hand side.

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I also wanted to say thanks to Kenny Rubinus.

Is Is that how you pronounce his name?

He raised some money for Tim

doing his cartoons, selling his TSD cartoon things.

I've seen quite a few people are just selling stuff to

help Tim out.

I think people really like Tim, right?

He's kind of like a well-loved guy.

That's great.

That's great.

Okay, if you haven't picked up the bonus pod on Bandcamp,

search Tim the Record Star

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Benefit Pod on Bandcamp.

Yeah.

Nobody's been disappointed in that one, right?

No.

Yeah,

it's a big one.

So, how many more episodes are we going to get in before you guys go to Key West?

Well, we got next week.

Okay.

We got next week.

If we could do it, the only way we could do it is if we did Monday of the following week.

Because

we have an emergency.

He doesn't need a podcast, like a benefit podcast, but he's having a life emergency.

One of my adopted three sons, Tom.

Uh-oh.

He wants to reverse his vasectomy?

He says he's having a midlife crisis, and he wanted to know if he could come in and talk to you guys and discuss it.

He doesn't know who to turn to, and it's a pretty big

issue he's going through.

And he thought that

some of the sage-like advice that you guys have come up with over the years,

he wondered if you would be so kind as to help walk him through this difficult point of his life.

I'd love to.

Yeah, why not?

If you guys have like Tom?

Midlife Crisis?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I talked about it on the show.

Like, yeah.

I get it.

That grip of like, I'm running out of time.

I'm running out of youth.

I'm running out of energy.

I know that feeling.

I'm on the other side of it now where I'm like, ah, fuck it.

Yeah, I would say like in my mid-40s, like it was, we were in a full 40.

I didn't realize he was as old as he is.

He still has that very youth-like appearance and exuberance.

I was shocked when he said he was 43.

Yeah.

That's the time when it usually hits.

I think so, because you start looking like, because like with the sports car thing where the cliche is somebody will buy a sports car, I think like you're like, well, how many more cars am I going to own?

You know?

Like these

rest of my life.

How many more do you want to own?

How many more do I I don't, like,

if I'm going to get that Porsche, I don't want to Porsche, but if I'm going to get that Porsche, it's got to be now

or the next car because I'll be dead after the next car.

You're too old to drive it.

You can't have two?

Of course.

You can't have two.

How much money do people have?

You know what I mean?

It's just like, I just feel like you're at the age where you have money and

you're running out of runway.

I mean, that's what it's all about.

You're running out of time.

Running out of runway.

That's good.

Yeah, before you launch to heaven, you know?

Take off food.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's just like, even me with the Delaware.

Does the car work?

Does it work for people who does it help ease the

issues, the underlying issues of why you're feeling the way you're feeling?

The car will help.

I believe the car will help.

But are there some people who that the car really didn't help?

It's like, wow, I thought the car might help.

It didn't help.

Yeah, I mean, nothing's across the board, but like you're fulfilling that thing of like, I still got it.

I'm still young enough

to do it.

Like, I do think it helps.

It's like a band.

I still got it.

Yeah.

And what is it that you have because you have enough moolah to drive the car?

I don't, you know,

I've never been a car guy.

Youth, vitality.

No, no, no.

I don't think that.

I don't think it's about really the car.

It has to be.

At some point, it'll be a lot of fun.

It's about simple cars.

Yeah, it's just like

the freedom.

Like, you can still

be your hair.

No, I don't think that's it.

I think it's literally like: if I don't fucking make a move, I'm now in a position where I'm going to drive this fucking

son, the Prius, for the rest of my fucking life.

And I'm running out of time to buy new cars.

Like, this is it.

I got to do it now.

And I think that too.

It's like guys hit a certain age.

And I don't know, I can't speak for women, but I think guys hit a certain age, it's just like,

am I never going to fuck like a hot chick again?

Like, is that.

I think guys, you know what I mean?

Like, I like,

they look at it.

The disbelief he said it with was awesome.

Like, they look at their wives and they're aging, and and it's just like, have I touched the last young hard body I'm ever going to touch?

Like, is this over?

I'm just out of the sexual game for the next 40 years.

That's a tough realization.

It was fucking a horrible realization.

That's why guys fucking leave their families and shit.

Because they're like, I can't wait.

Like, I'm just a sexless

elderly thing for the rest of my life.

Who's become invisible to anybody under the age of 50?

Yeah, and like, I wake up and.

I really hope Tom isn't listening to

TST with his wife in the car.

I'm not saying it's right.

I just went a car.

I still love you.

No, I think that's a common thing for guys, you know.

Like, you know.

Yeah,

you're not.

I'm never going to fucking hide again.

I'm only 45.

What can that be?

I got to fucking one more hottie while I still can.

And I think that overrides people's brains, you know?

It totally clouds

their decision-making.

I believe so.

And overrides all the...

It doesn't overlook.

It's a struggle.

It's a struggle.

You have to find the places where it's acceptable for you to give in to that.

Guys need that release valve around their mid-40s.

Yeah, but some guys,

they just...

They're forced to get the Porsche because it's a fucking 25-year-old ain't going to look at them anyway.

Yeah.

So it's like

something because the Porsche is like, I have money.

So if I have money, we're going to have fun.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Whereas, yeah, if he's, he's tooling around in like a 2,000 Corolla or something.

Yeah.

They're going to make a judgment.

Oh, yeah.

Rolling down the window.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong.

I'm just saying I know.

I think that's what guys go through.

Yeah.

And I'd be interested to hear if women go through kind of the same thing because I know women deal with the loss of their youth and beauty.

Like that happens.

That happens earlier for women than guys.

I was talking to Jordan one time.

She's like, I'm done.

I hit 30.

Oh my God.

I was like, what?

I was like, you're still gorgeous.

What are you talking about?

Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's,

that's someone who doesn't have the experience to know that, no, it gets way worse.

Yeah, way, way worse, buddy.

Yeah, 30, 30 is nothing.

Nah.

Yeah.

Wish I was 30 again.

Yeah, well, you won't be.

What would you do differently?

What would you do if you were 30 right now?

Oh, well, the drugs would about happen.

No, no, no.

I think, well, if you revert to 30 right now, what would you do?

Oh, I'm 30 right now?

Yeah.

He's this brain in a 30-year-old body?

Okay, so it's still you.

You get de-aged.

You de-age to 30.

I de-age.

Benjamin Button down to 30.

Yeah, but it's still you.

I probably make better decisions in almost every aspect.

But you're still living with the decisions you've made.

You're just 30.

It's today.

It's today, but

you wake up tomorrow morning,

your body is 30 years old.

Well, I'd probably take better care of myself

moving forward.

I wouldn't allow myself to yo-yo at the weight and shit.

Save more money, probably.

You got more time.

Got more time now, yeah.

Okay, no, it's still 2025.

Yeah, yeah, but he's going to live longer now.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, are you spending money

crazy right now?

No, not now, but like from 30 on, yeah.

Okay.

You spent a lot of money on all those fucking pens and pencils you bought.

Pens I bought.

Watches.

Watches.

How was the last time you brought a high-end pen?

Oh, it's been a long time.

It was probably a comic bookmen days.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We've been doing a slow clap lately.

Good on you, man.

Yeah.

I realized that you didn't need that.

How old were you when you were going through that pen phase?

That was probably my mid-40s.

I couldn't afford a Porsche.

You got the thickest midlife crisis ever.

Whatever it is.

This might be the last pen I ever bought.

It's not, because some guys like spend all their money on strippers and shit like that.

This is what I'm saying.

The pens.

You still have those pens.

Yeah.

You still got them.

The pen's the positive alone.

You know?

It wasn't a funny thing for somebody who one can't draw and one and another whose handwriting is almost illegible.

I don't know why it was so much depends, but it was really good.

It was those things that I would ponder

way more than I should have had.

I spent more time thinking about it than

any other thing at the moment.

I'd be be like, what the fuck?

Why would he buy triple-figure pens?

I remember sending him links to glass fountain pens.

Yeah.

I remember that.

Stop feeding this habit.

Who knew that the pen habit would have been the preferable one?

Yeah, but you never felt anything like that.

No midlife.

In life crisis?

In any form.

Crisis.

Masterworks?

Masturbation?

No.

Like, you knew?

He came in all sweaty.

Of course I knew.

That's why you thought I was sweaty, too.

No, no.

You thought that me going full born into spending all that money on the Masterwork Collection was a mid-shelving for the Masterworks setting.

You thought that was a midlife crisis?

I'm saying it could be.

It could be considered.

It's interesting that you would think that.

No, it was just like.

You're trying to recapture your youth by getting the comic books of old.

Oh, my God.

Maybe you're onto something.

Wow.

Made me feel more virile.

I would order a masterwork.

Sound like crazy.

And you're right.

I would be all fucking amped up, and I'd be like.

Your wife would see it in the mail.

She's like, oh, no.

Tonight's the night.

Don't you have every volume by now?

There's 300 volumes.

I remember you'd be like, I got to make these drawings and sell them so I can buy that masterwork.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Wow, maybe Giddam is onto something.

But it's not a negative.

But that's what I'm saying.

It's not necessarily a negative, the midlife crisis.

It's how it's

going to be.

I think Tom feels like him reaching out, though.

I think it is a detriment to his psyche right now, though.

Yeah.

I don't think he feels it's a positive.

He'd like to figure a way to live with it and turn it into a positive.

Great.

Let's do that.

I'll bring him over to fantasies.

He'll be fine.

Yeah.

The last time time i was there there was a woman eating a tuna sandwich on the stage

last time i was there there was a pregnant lady i love fantasies i know it's awesome

somebody

yeah there was a lady eating yogurt she had to finish her yogurt before she would be francaleptis god bless fantasy man i love it do you remember when when you said tuna do you remember when the girl from full house the uh lori or the woman that was married to john stamos in the show she sent her she sent her kids to uh she got her kids scholarship Oh, she was the scandal.

And she was facing jail time.

Yeah, she went to jail.

Yeah, and the internet was like, was so, was so against her.

I wanted her to serve hard time.

I just remember one of the fucking comments I saw was priceless.

Better learn to like tuna, bitch.

I remember you brought that up on the show.

That would horrify me if Lori ever saw that.

She's reading the comments.

If she saw that comment, that had to have been like hit the most gut-wrenching, hit the fucking center of your soul comment.

You're like, oh, my God.

Am I going to be eating?

Am I going to be forced to eat?

Tuna?

And the bitch is like the cream on the icing on the cake.

I don't like tuna.

Bitch.

You're going to get raped in prison, bitch.

Yeah, like, I can't imagine if the equivalent was said to me.

I'd be like, oh, my God.

I'll be like hot dogs, bitch.

I know.

I'm going on the run.

I have something real quick here.

It's from Tommy Lincoln.

He's doing something for Tim as well.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, if you go to

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That Tommy Lincoln, man, never misses an opportunity to prove himself a good dude.

I like Tommy Lincoln.

Yeah, I like Tommy Lincoln.

Good guy.

Yeah, very good guy.

Nice kid, too.

I saw this, Q.

I thought you would love this if you were still in school.

High school teacher in Queensland, Australia.

Hold on, as soon as it comes up, reportedly identifies as a cat, licks her hands, and hisses at students.

Here we are.

Here we are.

And there's nothing you can do about it.

Oh, is that a finger wag?

Uh-oh.

Oh, get him saying this might be a two hot topic.

This might be a too hot topic?

I don't know.

It's not related.

As long as it doesn't connect it to anything else, it's just a crazy woman who thinks she's a cat.

It's a crazy woman who reportedly asked her students to call her Miss Purr.

You know what, dude?

It's the first time you've been finger wagged by the official finger wagger.

I would just move on.

I would just show people that we're learning.

Yeah.

Well, if you want to Google it.

Yeah, nice.

Nice job, Giddam.

Yeah, we don't need Australia mad at us, too.

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

Yeah.

I think that's all I had for this week.

I had a story.

You had something, Walt?

Yeah, I thought this was.

Oh, you know what?

Real quick, Walt, before you even tell your story, I know you're into Doris Day.

I am.

I just watched a

Charles Manson documentary.

I know.

I just watched a Charles Manson documentary, and Doris Day's son, Terry Melcher, was the one who declined, he was a record producer, declined to sign Manson, and that's when they think his downward spiral began.

Like that's when all the murder and shit started.

That's when he

got mad at society.

Yeah.

But I thought that was interesting that Terry Melcher was Doris Day's son.

I didn't know there was any relation there.

You know who Terry Melcher is?

I had heard of him before just because of the Manson stuff, because he was a producer for the Beach Boys, I think.

I think I don't know if she was on the she had a good relationship with her kids.

Oh, no.

I think she left everything to her animals.

Oh, wow.

She was a complete animal activist for

her.

Once she got out of Hollywood.

I like that.

Yeah.

What's the name of that guinea pig downstairs?

Scooter.

He's right around the corner over here.

Yeah.

I'd like to meet Scooter.

Yeah, see the fucking bane of her fucking.

Oh, come on.

You can't blame Scooter for that.

You can blame the Iron Lady.

You can blame the Iron Lady.

Can you look up real quick what temperature guinea pigs are supposed to be in?

Okay.

He's looking, though.

Somebody's asked this question for the experts, the sexperts, Brian and

Q.

My husband says, I'm going goblin mode when we start to have sex.

He growls and acts like a caveman, and then says, goblin mode off when we stop.

And then pretends to not know what I'm talking about when I ask him about this.

He does this every time, and

I want him to stop it.

But when I ask him about it, he denies he does it.

That's weird.

That's a listener?

Yeah, it's a listener.

She has a husband whoever talks.

Goblin mode activated.

And he growls like a caveman while he's involved getting.

And this, I have so many questions.

Like, this only started after they were married?

I think it's a recent occurrence, or maybe it isn't.

I don't know.

Well, her first option is as soon as she hears goblin mode activated, she could be like, I'm not doing it.

We're going to get up then.

Yeah, she's got to get up and be like,

put a halt to everything.

Yeah,

she's on.

Like, enough of the goblin mode shit.

Come up with her own mode.

Yeah.

Like, chastity mode engaged.

Goblin mode?

Yeah, what does that even mean?

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

And then he's a caveman.

He's not even a goblin.

What's the matter?

I found this same

email on Reddit from two years ago.

Really?

Somebody sent it to me.

About goblin mode?

Yeah.

Really?

Oh.

Oh.

It's on copypasta.

I guess you can't believe everything you read online.

Oh, so somebody's sending me fake shit.

And we were seriously taking our time trying to help them out.

Oh,

man.

It's like, you're right, Q.

You can't believe anything out there.

We're giving advice for no reason.

Yeah,

I heard that a very popular thing online is a

true crime documentary online.

That's completely fake.

That's just made by AI.

AI is just coming up with crime cases and making documentaries about them and putting it online.

And people love them.

They know they're fake, but they love them.

Isn't there enough real shit out there?

Maybe it's a little less disturbing.

Hello?

Hello?

Hello?

Okay.

I can hear it now.

I think it's this is getting moved.

Okay.

Like, maybe it's a little less disturbing if

it's AI crime.

Could be.

It's all fake.

Yeah.

Well, you know that there's accusations that Marvel and DC are using AI art in the comics now.

No, get out of here.

How does that

the fuck do they think they're going to get away with that?

I guess they could.

I mean, they don't have the protections.

How are you going to find it, though?

If you prompt AI to make something,

how do you know it's AI, though?

Like, how does somebody...

You can't find that image because

it's your image you prompted.

Right, but they credit credit the artist, though.

Who does?

AI does?

No, no, Marvel and DC, Marvel and DC.

Oh, yeah, well, the artist is submitting AI work as his own.

Oh, so it's the artists that are doing it.

Well, I'm sure that's happening for sure.

I know that's happening with scripts.

Know for a fact.

I know, yeah, somebody sold the script that they did not write and presented it as their own.

It's happening, it's going on.

AI wrote it?

AI wrote it.

Wow.

And they sold it.

Crazy.

Entirely AI or entirely AI.

And then they went in and gave prompts

to adjust it, and they sold it as their own.

Crazy.

It's happening.

Would they have to give the money back?

I have no idea what the rules are.

I don't know.

I wouldn't think they'd have to.

Why would they have to?

Yeah.

It's nuts, though.

Even if they didn't come up with it, it's not like they can go after the person that did come up with it if the person doesn't exist.

It's crazy.

It's the new Wild West, bro.

It's already happening, yeah.

Nuts.

Now, the idea is to find a way to capitalize on it, not just watch it destroy you.

Well, my friend who who told me that this happened fed one of the um

uh he wrote an outline for a script and fed it into AI, and AI wrote a script based on his outline.

He did it just to see if it would do it, and it did, and he was able to sell it.

No, he didn't sell it.

This guy didn't sell it, the guy he knows sold it.

Now, if you do that, would you consider

how much changes would you have to make to it

that you would consider personally feel like?

Okay, so if I was comfortable, I wouldn't want to do any of it.

But if I did, I think you got to do a total rewrite using that as just like a first draft.

Then I'd be like, all right, I guess.

At least you rewritten a picture of it.

Yeah, like how much extra padding or changing could you make to it?

Then you would feel.

You're talking about me to feel comfortable.

I would have to have the script next to me and rewriting it in my own fucking words, word for word, page for page, to even feel comfortable enough to be like,

this is mine.

But I don't think that's right either.

Where's the joy in that?

Like, where's the fun?

And

like, the reason that I do shit is money.

Sure, yeah.

See, like, let's say, like, let's say you're having like writer's block, or you just, you're, you're having trouble

figuring out how to go from point A to point B.

You feed it into an AI, and it actually gives you

the inspiration, and then you flesh it out even more.

Look, like a frame, it gives you a framework that you're like, okay, that makes sense.

Now I'm going to flesh it out.

You're making a good argument.

I don't know.

I don't know where the line is, honestly.

I wouldn't want to do that myself.

I only like to do things that I feel like I want to do.

You know what I mean?

But if I was writing the 800th episode of Law and Honor, I might be like, I don't know, write a Law and Honor episode.

You know what I mean?

It's not going to kill anybody.

There's nothing in the papers today.

Yeah.

But just anything that I'm doing on my own, I wouldn't want to do.

I think, like,

here's where it might be useful.

If I'm like,

like I said, I want to write like a sci-fi comedy type of thing, and I have an idea for the spaceship that the guy's in, and I use that AI to,

I wrote, like, I wrote, like, whatever, this is going to be, yeah, but I was like, write a yellow spaceship that's boxy in the back, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it came out with something fairly close to what I was thinking, and I printed it out and put it on the wall for inspiration.

You know what I mean?

But, like,

that's different to me in a way.

Now, going down that path a little further, you get that initial image, then you start adding in prompts

to change that image.

Yeah, does that

do you feel that is creative?

That is yeah, look, it's not my first option, but I think that the way things are headed, that you would be foolish to say that that's not creative because I think that's going to be a major tool going forward.

Like, yeah, like learning how to

it's almost like I feel that that's almost like learning how to use a brush in a a different way.

Yeah, so I could see that on you.

Like, you know, you need to know what prompt to put in to get what you want.

Yeah.

So I, you know.

Well, for me, well, it's like, I don't know how to draw, and I don't know how to do that shit.

So for like to do storyboards for myself, I don't think I have a problem with that.

But to do artwork of Batman hitting the Joker and sell it to DC, I'm like,

that doesn't sound like, why did you get into the game?

Like, what are you doing?

So I don't know.

It's a weird one, man.

It's a fucking, it's a thorny issue.

And,

you know, I don't know.

Like, I can see it like if you're like, I, I'm, you're trying to imagine something in your head, like someone getting hit in a certain way.

Yeah.

And then you pull up a prompt and then you use that as.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know how to do it.

I'm not saying trace it or submit it directly, but like you're like, okay, like a reference for yourself to grow.

Yes.

I asked Walt.

Yeah, that's that's a question.

I would think that

as long as you're not taking that image and just like and taking it and not

altering it all or doing anything to it and submitting it, I don't see how it helping helps you see something from an angle you can't replicate maybe in the real world.

Yeah.

That's

I would think it's a tool that would be

used to your benefit.

They have those, what is it, those wooden little figures that you can move so that you can kind of like, yeah.

Yeah.

Or people watch movies where they look for scenes in movies that are created by CGI and they, it's the same thing, I get, I don't know, man.

It's a fucking thorny one, man.

It's a thorny one.

I do know that nothing I ever write, I wouldn't want to ever represent a machine as myself.

Yeah.

I just wonder

what AI, is AI producing something that

is equal to a human?

Sure.

I think the answer is yes.

Don't know what that is.

Because

AI art, you can see the problems in it.

Now?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't work those bugs out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But will it?

But if I ask AI to be like, draw me a rough sketch of Batman Fighting the Joker, you probably wouldn't see those mistakes.

It could probably handle that.

Yeah, well, that's a rough sketch.

But I'm saying that.

That's how this artist got why he was put under the microscope because there were imperfections in there that he didn't remove.

Yeah, that to me is not.

Like, he should have went in there and looked for all the weird little bugs that give it away, and he didn't.

And people are against it, and the people are not happy with it.

People are upset by it, yeah.

I think there was a segment that was upset by it, and it's a form of cheating, I guess.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's too thorny an issue.

Yeah, there's too much

too much information at this point.

Yeah.

I mean, it's nice to have, like, to be able to think about it and hold both ideas in your head where you're like, all right, it might not be the worst thing in the world, but it also might be really bad.

You know what I mean?

Like, to have that ability to look at both of the sides.

With this much information, man, it makes me really think that it would be better if we lived in the dark ages.

Yeah.

No indoor toilets and shit like that.

I think we'd be happier.

I don't know.

I don't know about that.

Ignorance is bliss.

You know, give me the dark ages.

But the only music you hear is some dickhead down at the local tavern, like strumming a loot or whatever.

I don't know.

There's some things we don't got to deal with, though, anymore.

But no lights in,

no, like, you know, no great music.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How dark?

How dark are you talking?

I'm talking about, you know, about the 15th century.

Okay, so everybody's sick for like the most minor plagues and shit.

People are being accused of witchcraft.

Yeah.

Burned alive at the stake.

Heresy.

I'd rather have AI.

I didn't just deal with AI.

Tell him, Steve Dave.